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Stretch, my brother,
what's good, man?
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Wanted to learn a little bit
more about you,
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and I want you to learn
a little bit more about me...
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- Of course.
- And our background, so...
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(Both laughing)
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I wanna say what's up to
John on 105th St
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and Trevor, and, uh--
(Man laughing)
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He's a ball watcher.
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Why you all up on my--
my lambus?
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You lambus stackus, B.
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(Radio tuning)
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(Hip-hop beat playing)
Jay Z: Oh, yeah, yeah
it's in some stores,
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but once we lock
this distribution thing down,
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it's gonna be in all stores.
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- Yeah, just got
rap pick of the week.
- Bobbito: On what label?
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Jay Z:
Roc-A-Fella Records.
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Bobbito: We gonna go with
a little premiere.
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This is the B.I.G.
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KRS-One:
This is all live, New York.
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(Radio tunes)
Nas: Yeah, the album's getting
ready to come out in January,
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the name of that
is "Illmatic."
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(Radio tunes,
O.C.'S "Time's Up" playing)
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O.C.: Time's up.
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♪ You lack the minerals
and vitamins ♪
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♪ Irons and the niacin,
fuck who that I offend ♪
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♪ Rappers sit back,
I'm bout to begin ♪
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♪ Bout foul talk you squawk,
never even walked the walk ♪
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♪ More less destined
to get tested ♪
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♪ Never been arrested,
my album will manifest ♪
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♪ Many things that I saw, did
or heard about ♪
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♪ All told first-hand,
never word of mouth ♪
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♪ What's in the future for
the fusion in the changer ♪
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♪ Rappers are in danger ♪
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♪ Who will use wits
to be a remainder ♪
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♪ Of course we gotta pay rent,
so money connects but, uh, ♪
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♪ I'd rather be broke and have
a whole lot of respect ♪
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♪ It's the principal of it ♪
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♪ I get a rush when I bust
some dope lines I wrote ♪
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♪ That maybe somebody'll quote ♪
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♪ That's what I consider real
in this field of music ♪
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♪ Instead of puttin' brain cells
to work, they abuse it ♪
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♪ Non-conceptual,
non-exceptional ♪
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♪ Everybody's either
crime-related or sexual ♪
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♪ I'm here to make a difference
besides all the riffing ♪
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♪ To traps I'm not sticking ♪
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♪ Rappers stop flipping
for those who pose lyrical ♪
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♪ But really ain't true
I feel ♪
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♪ Their time's limited
hard rocks, too ♪
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Das EFX: It's like that, boy,
it's like that, bust it.
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And I'm gonna come like this.
Check it.
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♪ It's like eenie meenie,
none of y'all can see me ♪
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♪ 'Cause yo, I disappear
and reappear like I'm a genie ♪
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♪ It's the lunatic so bust the
tourniquet it's just a warning ♪
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♪ 'Cause I could go from
am to pm like dawn and ♪
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♪ I'm wicked, kick it,
stick it in your brain ♪
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♪ Like it's a tumor
I roll with PMD, ♪
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♪ So motherfuckers
kill the rumor ♪
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♪ Y'all can never stop my flow,
there ain't nobody looser ♪
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♪ I turn more kids to stone than
that chick they call Medusa ♪
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♪ When I wreck shit
I'm on some next shit ♪
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♪ Because I'm quicker, son,
I turn more rappers to the ♪
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Word up.
Check it out.
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Word 'em up, word 'em up,
Bobbito, Stretch Armstrong.
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(Voices fade)
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It made sense that it was like
a radio station
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that you just couldn't
go to really fast and find.
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You had to go through static.
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You go too far this way,
you're gonna miss it.
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You gotta come back,
so it felt like you guys
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were an island
on this whole planet.
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Where all these big giants
were walking around,
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a new island you had to find
with your radio.
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What's it-- transistor--
whatever that shit's called.
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You guys had opened
the door in New York
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for us, the next generation,
to come through.
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We're here on
the Upper East Side.
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I actually grew up in that
building, 60 96th Street.
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It's kind of like almost
the stereotypical,
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you know, fancy neighborhood
in Manhattan,
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but we're on the edge of that.
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This is like the last street
of the Upper East Side
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where the Upper East Side ends
and Spanish Harlem begins.
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So it's sort of a culturally
mixed up place.
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Our family lived in Douglass
projects on the Upper West Side.
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We moved to Westgate,
that building right behind us
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on 97th Street.
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The building that I lived in
was mixed-income.
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So we had people on welfare,
food stamps
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who were neighbors
to city councilmen,
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lawyers and professionals.
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I had really liberal parents.
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They liked me to hang out
with different types of kids.
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When I was really young
and afraid
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to go to those neighborhoods,
he would make me go there.
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He would actually be like,
"You're going--
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you're going
to your friend's house."
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I'm like-- (Stammers)
Not so crazy.
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Like, my man Ivan Rivera
liked on 109th and Park.
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And I loved Ivan.
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I was genuinely afraid
of hanging out there
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'cause the kids,
they were rough.
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I stood out crazy.
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They used to chase me
two blocks home, chase me,
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try to beat me up,
and they couldn't catch me.
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I had the nickname for like
three months, I was O.J.
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- Word?
- O.J. 'Cause I was like...
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My dad was actually
a Latin jazz musician.
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He played the vibraphones.
My dad was really
a classical music aficionado.
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Bob played piano
at the age of 3.
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What you don't know
is he's a good piano player.
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- Aww.
- Mmm.
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Ma, you're being kind.
I sucked.
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(Laughter)
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I played drums all my life
so that sort of helped me,
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you know, in terms of rhythm
and coordination,
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independence with your hands
and stuff like that.
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By the time he was 11 or 12,
he had a whole set.
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We had to negotiate
with the neighbors
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about when he could play
and when he could not play.
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There was a lot of music
in the family all the time,
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from Bach to drumming.
I got into hip-hop
because I went
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to this school on 96th Street.
Called Manhattan Country School.
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It was like
this utopian school with kids
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from all over New York City,
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and everyone paid according
to how much the family made.
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So it was like you had
rich kids, poor kids,
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kids from the projects,
kids from Park Avenue.
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And there were a lot of kids
from the Bronx who one day,
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came into school, and they were
all rapping "Rapper's Delight."
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Everybody, you know--
whatever-- Puerto Rican kids,
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white kids, Asian kids,
they're all--
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everyone just started getting
into "Rapper's Delight."
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It was like the thing,
and it stuck to some people.
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It stuck to me, and that's when
I started buying rap records.
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In 1977, I was classmates
with a cat named Craig Raddix,
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otherwise known as the original
Rocker Crazy Craig.
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And he was like, "Yo, I want
to show you a dance move."
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And he went down,
and I was like, "That's cool."
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I had never seen anybody dance
and go to the floor.
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I grew up listening
to Red Alert, Marley,
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you know, on the radio,
staying up on the headphones
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and it wasn't till I was
a senior in high school
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that I really wanted
to start DJing.
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I never had like
a visual reference.
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All I ever knew about was
listening to DJs on the radio.
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And that's all I knew.
I didn't know any DJs.
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First DJ that I ever knew
was Clark Kent.
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I am God's favorite DJ.
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(Laughter)
I remember meeting you,
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and I remember liking
you out the gate.
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You seemed to care
about the thing
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that we were putting together,
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so it made
listening to you right.
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(Hip-hop music playing)
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I saw Stretch
before I met him.
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I had went to Mars.
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I saw Stretch when he was
Adrian B. At the time.
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Mars was popping back then.
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One night, I come downstairs
to the basement,
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and there's a tall skinny
white dude,
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and he's playing g rap,
"Road to the Riches."
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(Rap music playing)
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And I'm like, oh, I'm in it!
Like, word, okay!
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I'm dancing.
I was dancing back then, too.
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I was a dancer.
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(Rap music playing)
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Shortly after,
I'm at Def Jam.
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(Hip-hop music playing)
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I distinctly remember
him walking down the hallway
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and being like, oh, light bulb,
yo, that's home dude
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I saw rocking at Mars,
and he's nice.
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The moment
that I saw Bobbito,
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I experienced a sense of relief
that I'm in the Def Jam office
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and there's someone
I can actually talk to.
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From second one,
me and Stretch clicked.
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Bobbito: First time I met you
and we go walking around,
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you're like,
"I gotta go meet my girlfriend.
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She works at Ben & Jerry's
down the block.
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I thought you looked
a little foolish back then.
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(Laughs) You still
wanted to be my friend.
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I did want to be your friend!
I just thought you were cool.
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You exuded this air about you,
and then we met
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your girlfriend at the time,
she was beautiful.
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Yo, this dude was bonkers.
How did he pull that?
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I guess he got something
special, you know...
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I guess--
I don't know.
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Maybe I should hang
around him more often.
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It's a pretty short amount
of time between meeting Bobbito
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at Def Jam, developing
a really close friendship
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really quickly,
and then maybe a year later,
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Bobbito, Nick quested and I
become roommates.
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(Rap music playing,
indistinct conversations)
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Stretch: I actually
came up to Columbia
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the summer
before I went to school,
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I went to WKCR because I was
like, they have a radio station.
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That'd be so cool
to get on the radio, whatever,
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and I spoke to somebody
and said,
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"I'm gonna be a student
here in the fall.
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I'd love to do a hip-hop show,"
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and they just played me so hard.
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They were like, "A hi-- (Laughs)
He wants a hip-hop show!
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Hey! Hey! Vanessa!
He wants a hip-hop show!
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Get the--"
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I mean, it was like an emphatic
"Never gonna happen."
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We were just like talking
out of the blue, like, yo--
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just fantasizing.
Fantasizing!
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You were like,
"Wouldn't it be cool
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if we got a radio show
together?"
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And I was like,
"Yo, that'd be crazy!
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I could host,
and you could DJ."
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(Scratching record,
rap music playing)
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I got the show, I was like,
"Yo, Bob, let's rock."
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I didn't want to be the white
boy talking on the radio.
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Just wanted to play the music.
I'm shutting the fuck up.
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Bobbito: We had flyers
for our show,
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and I was taking the flyers
and going on the 1 train uptown
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taking the local on purpose
and going car by car
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left, right,
here's a flyer, boom,
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any kid that looked like
he remotely liked hip-hop,
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yo, bong, bong,
bong, bong, bong.
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I could clearly, clearly
remember you telling me, like,
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"Yo, Bob,
let's take a mic break."
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It's on you.
And this is our first mic break
of our first show.
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I don't even know how far
to bring the level.
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All of a sudden,
it just went through my head,
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"Oh, my God, there are prison
inmates listening.
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There's like the hardest
hardrock stickup kids listening.
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Who am I to be on the mic
for a hip-hop show?"
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And I was just like,
"What's up, New York?!"
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And then I put
the mic back down.
(Laughs)
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WKCR, 89.9 FM, many calls,
many requests, many shout-outs.
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DJ Premier: The first record
I hear y'all play,
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it was a B-side
of Tribe Called Quest,
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and then, you know, most people
didn't play the B-sides,
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and it wasn't the album cut.
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It's just a record
for a 12-inch.
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♪ Yo skinny bonz
give me the track ♪
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♪ That's right
coming off dope ♪
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♪ Guaranteed to be rough ♪
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♪ I'm showing Busta Rhymes
never bluff ♪
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♪ Huff puff
like a magic dragon ♪
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Then the next record comes
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and it's something
I've never heard before.
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If I haven't heard it
and it's from my era,
245
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already, I'm like, who is that,
and what's happening?
246
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And y'all took that chance.
247
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♪ Can I kick it JVC force
intro to dance ♪
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(Laughter)
A new jam.
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I found out about
the show just because.
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The talk was stupid
all the time.
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Every time y'all came on,
we knew what was coming.
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So all we would do is just wait.
They on, they on!
253
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In the '90s, major radio
stations wasn't the shit.
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It was all about
college radio.
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DJ Premier:
You were on so late.
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Not an hour, not two hours.
You were on till 5:00.
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Lord Finesse: Y'all had like
the late-night, late-night.
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Call your show
like The Blade Show
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for Vampire Listeners,
you know?
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Stretch:
That's the graveyard shift.
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I would literally be
on the radio
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in the middle of the night
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and I would have you
and Stretch on
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a little radio on the side,
so technically,
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I was on the radio listening
to you on the radio.
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And it really put me
in a zone, like, you know,
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it made em feel like
something was happening,
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there was energy in the city.
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Woman: Stretch Armstrong may
look like an ordinary guy,
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but he and others like him
are preserving
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a nearly extinct piece
of American culture.
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Man on telephone:
And I like Stretch Armstrong!
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(Laughter and shouting)
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I think he's
a nice white guy.
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(Laughter)
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DJ Rob Swift:
I knew Stretch was white.
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I didn't know, but I pictured
a white guy for some reason.
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I didn't think that white kids
listened to hip-hop
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or that they were interested
or cared about it.
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It wasn't like, oh, my God,
Stretch Armstrong
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is the white DJ,
and that's why I'm listening.
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That wasn't it,
but there was no doubt
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either consciously
or subconsciously
284
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where that was, like,
a component.
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There was an openness
and an invitation
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to just be yourself.
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Battle Sounds: What do you know
what to look for right now?
The label.
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What's the label?
That's the first priority.
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Step up front.
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Stretch:
For me the motivation
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was really about having tons
of music that I was nuts about.
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I just created this network
that was independent
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of the record labels,
getting demos and remixes
294
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from producers to feed
the show new music
295
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you couldn't hear anywhere.
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We changed what a mix show
could be.
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We were being broadcast
into your homes,
298
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but really, you were coming
into our world.
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♪ I don't know is where
you ran or came ♪
300
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♪ I know your vain,
I hate your name ♪
301
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♪ Your shame playing the game
that drove you insane ♪
302
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♪ You walk around puddles
smelling the rain ♪
303
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♪ With a cane nothing
to gain but shame... ♪
304
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Y'all didn't give us no limit
on how long we could black out.
305
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If you had bars,
y'all just let niggas go.
306
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♪ Why's my name
the Large Professor ♪
307
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♪ Cause I milked your cow,
so go ask your heffer ♪
308
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♪ Don't talk about
how you can break Rambo ♪
309
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♪ That's just a bunch
of mambo you hambo ♪
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♪ Propaganda,
save it for Savanda, ♪
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♪ Joe and Amanda,
Zach and Alexandra ♪
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♪ I'm high potent
devoting much time ♪
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♪ Into one rhyme, every line
of mine is worth quoting ♪
314
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♪ I'm like a college dorm ♪
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♪ People will swarm
for knowledge ♪
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♪ Applicants chill out
and fill out a form ♪
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♪ Forget about the rest yo,
the East is the best ♪
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♪ When it comes to a battle,
yo, the Jorge will never fess ♪
319
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♪ Or front, I smoke blunts,
line up the stunts on the wall ♪
320
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♪ And then I give it my all ♪
321
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♪ That means I bend them over
with the quickness ♪
322
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♪ and then I drop the lyrics
with the slickness ♪
323
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♪ Cause Jorge will never front
off the top of the head ♪
324
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♪ And when it comes
to the skeezers ♪
325
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♪ I take them to the bed ♪
326
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♪ So what is the science
as I kick the appliance ♪
327
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♪ coming off dope
as I form the alliance ♪
328
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♪ Feminine fat coming
nice and rough ♪
329
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♪ I am the man showing
you that I'm tough ♪
330
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♪ Indeed I like the girls
that do not lick the crack ♪
331
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(Fades) ♪ She signs for her
life that old fat contract ♪
332
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We had niggas coming to school
that recorded that episode
333
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of Stretch and Bobbito
freestlying on the box,
334
00:15:35,643 --> 00:15:38,146
and niggas
was dick-riding pause.
335
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Confession--
niggas was scared to death
336
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'cause I didn't want
to fuck up.
337
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Even though
we knew we had to freestyle.
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I would have been fine
with y'all
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forgetting to ask us to do it.
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(Hip-hop music playing)
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Stretch: The only reason
why you could hear KCR
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in the tri-state area was
because we were being broadcast
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from the top
of the World Trade Center,
344
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so that signal would travel,
but it was a little signal
345
00:16:02,587 --> 00:16:04,964
on a little rinky-dink
fucked up station
346
00:16:04,964 --> 00:16:06,508
with a board from the '60s.
347
00:16:06,508 --> 00:16:08,468
Sometimes the left channel
would drop out,
348
00:16:08,468 --> 00:16:11,221
and I would have to punch the
console, and it'd pop back up.
349
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This guy is answering the doors,
answering the phones,
350
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opening the mailbox, making sure
no one's doing graffiti,
351
00:16:16,684 --> 00:16:19,354
Yo, what's up?
Can I have my marker?
352
00:16:22,107 --> 00:16:23,942
Yo, sh--
(Laughter)
353
00:16:23,942 --> 00:16:25,985
Fucking graffiti, man!
354
00:16:25,985 --> 00:16:28,738
They're gonna kick us off
the air 'cause of this shit.
355
00:16:28,738 --> 00:16:32,158
I'm there making music,
go from 1:00 to 5:00.
356
00:16:32,158 --> 00:16:34,494
No commercial break.
I can't go to the bathroom.
357
00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:36,913
(Laughs)
I never thought about that.
358
00:16:36,913 --> 00:16:39,416
It was hectic, man,
or I did, I had to--
359
00:16:39,416 --> 00:16:42,168
(Rolls tongue,
imitates peeing)
360
00:16:42,168 --> 00:16:45,797
Did you ever wash your hands
though between?
361
00:16:45,797 --> 00:16:47,590
I still don't.
What's up?
362
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(Rap music playing)
363
00:16:50,677 --> 00:16:52,554
(Man laughs)
364
00:16:52,554 --> 00:16:55,265
When I got to WKCR,
we were in a station
365
00:16:55,265 --> 00:16:57,684
that hadn't been renovated
since it started.
366
00:16:57,684 --> 00:17:00,603
We were in Ferris Booth Hall.
It was pretty grimy.
367
00:17:00,603 --> 00:17:02,230
It was pretty nasty
to sit on a couch.
368
00:17:02,230 --> 00:17:03,940
You weren't sure
what you were gonna sit on.
369
00:17:03,940 --> 00:17:05,775
You weren't sure
what had happened there.
370
00:17:05,775 --> 00:17:07,652
A lot of people
slept in the studio
371
00:17:07,652 --> 00:17:09,446
and probably did
a lot of other stuff.
372
00:17:09,446 --> 00:17:10,905
You prayed that the machines
373
00:17:10,905 --> 00:17:12,532
and the consoles
would actually work.
374
00:17:12,532 --> 00:17:15,743
For literally decades,
nothing had been touched.
375
00:17:15,743 --> 00:17:17,871
For our listeners,
it was a community.
376
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Most of them didn't even realize
they were listening
377
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to a station that was run on
the Columbia Campus by students.
378
00:17:22,292 --> 00:17:23,501
Zuhirah: The coolest thing
about the school
379
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was that you guys were here.
380
00:17:25,128 --> 00:17:29,007
Right outside my dorm room,
Fat Joe was rolling up.
381
00:17:29,007 --> 00:17:30,842
Fat Joe: I remember
walking in and out of here
382
00:17:30,842 --> 00:17:33,219
and I would just bump into
whoever was the hottest nigga
383
00:17:33,219 --> 00:17:35,263
in the world, like,
yo, what's up, y'all?
384
00:17:35,263 --> 00:17:37,390
Oh, you going in?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
385
00:17:37,390 --> 00:17:38,892
We gonna go rhyme and shit.
386
00:17:38,892 --> 00:17:40,602
This is Fat Joe in the house.
387
00:17:40,602 --> 00:17:43,062
I gotta say peace to the whole
boogie down Bronx,
388
00:17:43,062 --> 00:17:44,564
know what I'm saying?
389
00:17:44,564 --> 00:17:46,733
I used to hear this rap station
out of nowhere.
390
00:17:46,733 --> 00:17:49,111
I used to be like, you know,
just fine-tuning.
391
00:17:49,111 --> 00:17:51,863
You know you turn
your radio real slow
392
00:17:51,863 --> 00:17:54,949
like you out in the desert,
you trying to find the station.
393
00:17:54,949 --> 00:17:56,743
'Cause I used to look for rap
on them stations
394
00:17:56,743 --> 00:17:58,995
that barely could come in
the frequency, like,
395
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you know, you be turning
and it's like--
396
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(Imitates static)
397
00:18:02,499 --> 00:18:06,127
You know, you had to s--
do the eye
398
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to get the dial
tuned right on it.
399
00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:10,548
Make you sure you move
your antennas the right way
400
00:18:10,548 --> 00:18:12,258
and stuff so you get it in.
401
00:18:12,258 --> 00:18:14,135
DJ Premier: You got it.
In New York, you got it.
402
00:18:14,135 --> 00:18:15,929
And it was a beautiful thing.
403
00:18:15,929 --> 00:18:17,847
Riggs: There was a kid in
my class that was coming in
404
00:18:17,847 --> 00:18:19,474
with all the exclusives.
405
00:18:19,474 --> 00:18:21,392
I was like, yo,
can I listen to it?
406
00:18:21,392 --> 00:18:23,228
He really got stingy with 'em.
Yo, where'd you get it?
407
00:18:23,228 --> 00:18:24,938
You could tell
it wasn't a mix tape.
408
00:18:24,938 --> 00:18:27,774
He was like, yo, 89 tec 9, man.
Kid of brushed me away.
409
00:18:27,774 --> 00:18:29,359
I was like, yo,
fuck you, bro.
410
00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,819
(Laughter)
Is that how you're doing this?
411
00:18:31,819 --> 00:18:34,280
So did my little research,
89 tec 9.
412
00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,241
That's all you knew it as.
413
00:18:36,241 --> 00:18:38,451
Stretch:
Even if you're listening
to community or college stations
414
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there's a certain blueprint
that they follow.
415
00:18:41,037 --> 00:18:43,623
If it's commercial,
it's very slick and confident
416
00:18:43,623 --> 00:18:47,335
and well-produced.
Stay hot-97 weather.
Kind of high clouds today.
417
00:18:47,335 --> 00:18:49,504
Our show ended up being
none of those things.
418
00:18:49,504 --> 00:18:51,256
♪ It's like that and-ah ♪
419
00:18:51,256 --> 00:18:53,299
♪ JVC can rock a party
without a band and-ah ♪
420
00:18:53,299 --> 00:18:55,426
♪ Step up, you get dissed
in a rude manner ♪
421
00:18:55,426 --> 00:18:58,012
♪ And I'm the a I talk more
than Rosanna Danadana ♪
422
00:18:58,012 --> 00:19:00,390
♪ And I'm the B I wet your
whistle like tropicana and-ah ♪
423
00:19:00,390 --> 00:19:02,433
♪ And he's the C,
let him learn ♪
424
00:19:02,433 --> 00:19:05,061
It was uncensored, you know,
so for the first times,
425
00:19:05,061 --> 00:19:07,230
you heard the curse words
on the records,
426
00:19:07,230 --> 00:19:10,400
and I'm like, yo, they're not
gonna edit that shit?
427
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,110
I got a lot of cursing.
428
00:19:12,110 --> 00:19:14,404
Yeah, that's all right.
Bring it.
429
00:19:14,404 --> 00:19:17,615
♪ This is for my niggas who
ain't fuckin' with the system ♪
430
00:19:17,615 --> 00:19:19,450
♪ Tired of arrest,
doing the best ♪
431
00:19:19,450 --> 00:19:21,619
♪ To try to dick 'em
up the ass with no grease ♪
432
00:19:21,619 --> 00:19:23,454
♪ The fuckin' police gots
to go ♪
433
00:19:23,454 --> 00:19:26,583
♪ Niggas feel the same
from Maine to Chicago ♪
434
00:19:26,583 --> 00:19:29,168
♪ California to New York,
gotta warn ya bout the pork ♪
435
00:19:29,168 --> 00:19:31,087
♪ They be
on the fuckin' hawk ♪
436
00:19:31,087 --> 00:19:33,881
♪ Lookin' for a nigga
so they can dig another grave ♪
437
00:19:33,881 --> 00:19:36,718
♪ My big brother was a slave
but I'm like nat Turner ♪
438
00:19:36,718 --> 00:19:39,262
♪ With two burners
bustin' back 'cause I'm black ♪
439
00:19:39,262 --> 00:19:42,181
♪ Now you learn
a lesson on how to act ♪
440
00:19:42,181 --> 00:19:45,101
Black people have not been
given the chance
441
00:19:45,101 --> 00:19:48,146
to express joy or anger.
442
00:19:48,146 --> 00:19:50,398
So rap music
is the expression of both.
443
00:19:50,398 --> 00:19:53,401
♪ Then I peed on niggas,
came the absolute worst ♪
444
00:19:53,401 --> 00:19:56,571
♪ I lost compassion for humans,
and then smacked up they moms ♪
445
00:19:56,571 --> 00:19:59,115
♪ Fan and got the arms
from under my mattress ♪
446
00:19:59,115 --> 00:20:01,743
♪ My little man Satan
got somethin' in his jacket ♪
447
00:20:01,743 --> 00:20:03,536
Stretch:
I've got a handful of records.
448
00:20:03,536 --> 00:20:05,955
The idea was to match a beat
to the artist
449
00:20:05,955 --> 00:20:07,999
that would elicit
the most inspired
450
00:20:07,999 --> 00:20:09,626
and enthusiastic performance.
451
00:20:09,626 --> 00:20:12,003
♪ The man on the mic
when I kwon be ♪
452
00:20:12,003 --> 00:20:14,714
♪ Ripping it and a dip
to get her ass bursted ♪
453
00:20:14,714 --> 00:20:17,342
♪ Cash is first with enough
skill and I bust ♪
454
00:20:17,342 --> 00:20:21,137
♪ Still she gotta thrust
to-o-o my hotel ♪
455
00:20:21,137 --> 00:20:23,640
♪ I told the bitch
you know Cash and you know Del ♪
456
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,224
♪ And we gonna kick it ♪
457
00:20:25,224 --> 00:20:26,976
♪ Don't even trip
'cause I'm wicked ♪
458
00:20:26,976 --> 00:20:29,228
♪ I love this track,
and so I'm gonna stick ♪
459
00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:31,773
Stretch: I come from
the school of never wanna hear
460
00:20:31,773 --> 00:20:35,360
the same record twice at a gig
or on a radio show.
461
00:20:37,321 --> 00:20:39,447
Lord Finesse: The craziest thing
you wanna do
462
00:20:39,447 --> 00:20:41,991
is be the last person
up on something.
463
00:20:41,991 --> 00:20:45,036
Like, yo, Stretch,
you played this joint!
464
00:20:45,036 --> 00:20:47,121
Rob: If you fell asleep,
you would hope
465
00:20:47,121 --> 00:20:49,874
that when the tape deck stopped,
it would wake you up
466
00:20:49,874 --> 00:20:52,418
to flip it to the other side.
467
00:20:52,418 --> 00:20:54,253
Gotta get your tapes ready,
tape deck, sound checks.
468
00:20:54,253 --> 00:20:56,547
I used to have this stack system
directly to my right
469
00:20:56,547 --> 00:20:59,509
so I was able to manipulate it
while I was laying down.
470
00:20:59,509 --> 00:21:00,968
(Laughs)
471
00:21:00,968 --> 00:21:03,012
Manipulate the tape deck
while I was laying down.
472
00:21:03,012 --> 00:21:05,682
And I couldn't set alarms
to keep me up.
473
00:21:05,682 --> 00:21:08,559
(Laughs)
474
00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:11,020
Why you gotta be stupid for?
475
00:21:11,020 --> 00:21:13,439
Busta Rhymes: I would play shit
so much, the tape would bust
476
00:21:13,439 --> 00:21:15,400
so I could get the steak knife,
477
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,029
and I would turn them screws
until I got the frame open, bro.
478
00:21:20,029 --> 00:21:21,948
And I'd get a scissors,
and I would just cut
479
00:21:21,948 --> 00:21:24,992
a little edge
off the fucking scotch tape.
480
00:21:24,992 --> 00:21:27,203
I matched that bitch back up,
put the frame.
481
00:21:27,203 --> 00:21:29,497
I would wind the reel tight
482
00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:31,958
to save my Stretch
and Bobbito tape.
483
00:21:31,958 --> 00:21:33,876
The Friday morning was
you missed your first period,
484
00:21:33,876 --> 00:21:35,837
so I almost failed out of gym.
485
00:21:35,837 --> 00:21:38,756
Mrs. Vega, my Spanish teacher,
she even commented a few times,
486
00:21:38,756 --> 00:21:40,758
"Every Friday, you come in
looking like a mess."
487
00:21:40,758 --> 00:21:43,302
- Did you give her a tape?
- No, I never gave her a tape.
488
00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:45,179
I would go to school
and front.
489
00:21:45,179 --> 00:21:47,557
You want this tape?
$5, nigga.
490
00:21:47,557 --> 00:21:49,517
(Laughs)
491
00:21:49,517 --> 00:21:50,977
Bobbito:
You used to sell our tapes?
492
00:21:50,977 --> 00:21:52,979
I sold y'all tapes.
I made money.
493
00:21:52,979 --> 00:21:54,731
That shit was drugs, B.
494
00:21:54,731 --> 00:21:56,441
Thursday nights,
I got no ass.
495
00:21:56,441 --> 00:22:00,111
That was straight up
Stretch and Bob's night.
496
00:22:00,111 --> 00:22:02,947
Girls would beep me.
It was beepers back then.
497
00:22:02,947 --> 00:22:05,199
"No, no, I'm listening
to the radio," like, "What?"
498
00:22:05,199 --> 00:22:07,994
Greg nice would call me, "Yo,
Tupac's over here, we'll hang."
499
00:22:07,994 --> 00:22:10,246
KRS-One is coming over,
"Which was a big deal,"
500
00:22:10,246 --> 00:22:12,081
if KRS was coming
to your house."
501
00:22:12,081 --> 00:22:15,418
You know what I'm saying?
Yo, I'm on my way.
502
00:22:15,418 --> 00:22:18,087
What street?
I'll be right there.
503
00:22:18,087 --> 00:22:20,590
We'd listen to y'all all night
until it went off,
504
00:22:20,590 --> 00:22:22,258
every fucking week.
505
00:22:22,258 --> 00:22:24,802
I vividly remember
staying up late
506
00:22:24,802 --> 00:22:27,346
listening to 89 tec 9.
507
00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:33,478
You know, cassette in place
powered and batteried, right?
508
00:22:33,478 --> 00:22:35,021
Record.
509
00:22:35,021 --> 00:22:36,814
It was like capturing
pieces of history.
510
00:22:36,814 --> 00:22:38,775
El-P: All of a sudden it
was like all us weirdoes
511
00:22:38,775 --> 00:22:40,610
who were obsessed
with this music,
512
00:22:40,610 --> 00:22:42,862
we have a place to be,
and we don't know each other,
513
00:22:42,862 --> 00:22:45,114
but we know that we're all
sitting somewhere
514
00:22:45,114 --> 00:22:47,200
late at night listening
to this music together.
515
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,454
So it was like the collective
consciousness of artists,
516
00:22:50,454 --> 00:22:53,372
the kids who would become
the next generation of rappers
517
00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:56,375
all were being educated by you
guys at the same time.
518
00:22:56,375 --> 00:23:00,797
When I started working with MOBB
and working with Nas,
519
00:23:00,797 --> 00:23:04,467
I was thinking about making shit
that would sound good
520
00:23:04,467 --> 00:23:06,469
on your show specifically.
521
00:23:06,469 --> 00:23:09,806
You weren't on Stretch and Bob,
it wasn't official, flat-out.
522
00:23:09,806 --> 00:23:13,684
The '90s was just like we was
outer space with it
523
00:23:13,684 --> 00:23:16,438
'cause it was like the colorful
sounds from the records,
524
00:23:16,438 --> 00:23:19,524
filtered bass lines, crazy--
(Imitates bass)
525
00:23:19,524 --> 00:23:22,026
It just did something to our
soul, you know what I mean?
526
00:23:22,026 --> 00:23:25,279
It made us want to be
a part of the culture even more.
527
00:23:25,279 --> 00:23:27,532
This was freedom, man.
This was freedom.
528
00:23:27,532 --> 00:23:30,743
This wasn't the bureaucratic
bullshit of, like,
529
00:23:30,743 --> 00:23:32,578
you know, other stations.
530
00:23:32,578 --> 00:23:34,997
We can't play that.
We got a playlist here.
531
00:23:34,997 --> 00:23:36,833
We were the playlist,
you know what I'm saying?
532
00:23:36,833 --> 00:23:39,794
The playlist came
through the door.
533
00:23:39,794 --> 00:23:42,296
(Rapping indistinctly)
534
00:23:57,270 --> 00:23:59,355
It was just like rap-a-palooza.
535
00:23:59,355 --> 00:24:01,274
First you was nice
on your block.
536
00:24:01,274 --> 00:24:02,942
Then it was nice
in your neighborhood.
537
00:24:02,942 --> 00:24:04,610
Then it was nice in the park,
538
00:24:04,610 --> 00:24:06,571
and then you got to go
on Stretch and Bob.
539
00:24:06,571 --> 00:24:08,364
Busta Rhymes: It didn't matter
how many battles
540
00:24:08,364 --> 00:24:09,991
you had in the street.
541
00:24:09,991 --> 00:24:12,118
It wasn't deemed official
by you coming up
542
00:24:12,118 --> 00:24:15,246
to Stretch and Bobbito's show
and doing your dance
543
00:24:15,246 --> 00:24:17,540
on that mic live
with a freestyle?
544
00:24:17,540 --> 00:24:21,210
You wasn't really no real mc,
and that was the status quo.
545
00:24:21,210 --> 00:24:23,629
We wasn't on
that cool Fonzie shit
546
00:24:23,629 --> 00:24:26,549
these niggas are on nowadays,
shit.
547
00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:29,635
We wanted to the fuckin' world
know we was nice.
548
00:24:29,635 --> 00:24:32,221
♪ I have to win,
I'm 100% masculine ♪
549
00:24:32,221 --> 00:24:35,016
♪ Standing tall like Christopher
Reeve before the accident ♪
550
00:24:35,016 --> 00:24:37,602
Bonz Malone: When I wasn't here,
I'm tuning in Thursday night.
551
00:24:37,602 --> 00:24:40,313
You crazy, who's there?
It's jeru.
552
00:24:40,313 --> 00:24:44,317
You know, it's MOBB deep.
It's Nas, it's Wu, it's Big.
553
00:24:44,317 --> 00:24:47,945
Yo, it was everybody
who wasn't signed yet, man.
554
00:24:47,945 --> 00:24:49,531
That was crazy.
555
00:24:49,531 --> 00:24:51,490
You'd have everybody
who was anybody on.
556
00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:52,992
I'd hear somebody on your show,
557
00:24:52,992 --> 00:24:54,536
and I'd wanna give them
a record deal
558
00:24:54,536 --> 00:24:56,162
it was uncanny.
559
00:24:56,162 --> 00:24:58,331
♪ Shimmy shimmy ya,
shimmy yam shimmy yay ♪
560
00:24:58,331 --> 00:25:00,542
♪ Gimme the mic
so I can take it away ♪
561
00:25:00,542 --> 00:25:01,792
So I heard that.
562
00:25:01,792 --> 00:25:03,502
I was in my house
listening to that.
563
00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:05,504
Something went off.
I was like, oh, I gotta get him.
564
00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:07,632
♪ Wu-Tang killer bees
on the swarm ♪
565
00:25:07,632 --> 00:25:09,926
♪ Rain on your college-ass
disco dorm ♪
566
00:25:09,926 --> 00:25:11,719
♪ For you to even touch
my skill ♪
567
00:25:11,719 --> 00:25:13,304
♪ You gotta go
through one killer bee ♪
568
00:25:13,304 --> 00:25:14,847
♪ And he ain't
for the kill now ♪
569
00:25:14,847 --> 00:25:17,016
I called up and I said,
"Yo, I'm coming up."
570
00:25:17,016 --> 00:25:19,226
♪ I get psycho,
killer, Norman Bates ♪
571
00:25:19,226 --> 00:25:21,938
♪ My producer slam
my flow is like bam ♪
572
00:25:21,938 --> 00:25:24,523
♪ Jump on stage
then I dip down ♪
573
00:25:24,523 --> 00:25:27,569
Old Dirty Bastard,
Wu-Tang Clan coming at you...
574
00:25:27,569 --> 00:25:31,030
I came up to sign
Ol' Dirty Bastard.
575
00:25:31,030 --> 00:25:33,282
I ended up signing him,
and he went on to sell
576
00:25:33,282 --> 00:25:35,242
millions of records
and be a legendary character,
577
00:25:35,242 --> 00:25:36,994
and I would never
have signed him
578
00:25:36,994 --> 00:25:38,622
if I didn't tune in that night.
579
00:25:38,622 --> 00:25:40,289
Hearing that changed my life.
580
00:25:40,289 --> 00:25:43,042
And I signed him before
the Wu-Tang album came out.
581
00:25:43,042 --> 00:25:46,754
The first time I heard "Protect
ya neck," on y'all's show
582
00:25:46,754 --> 00:25:49,715
I might have jumped
half my height.
583
00:25:49,715 --> 00:25:53,219
Y'all just threw it on--
(Grunts)
584
00:25:53,219 --> 00:25:56,555
Once I heard that,
turned it up.
585
00:25:56,555 --> 00:25:58,849
(Backbeat playing)
586
00:25:58,849 --> 00:26:01,519
When you from the projects,
you don't think that far
587
00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:03,896
like you gonna be able to be
heard on the radio.
588
00:26:03,896 --> 00:26:07,024
The radio was like, oh, shit.
589
00:26:07,024 --> 00:26:09,568
All we know every day is seeing
fiends in our faces
590
00:26:09,568 --> 00:26:12,614
and holding guns and we
stashing shit in the bushes
591
00:26:12,614 --> 00:26:13,864
and all that.
592
00:26:13,864 --> 00:26:15,908
At nighttime,
that was the time
593
00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:19,662
where we wanted to be rappers
because y'all show came on.
594
00:26:19,662 --> 00:26:21,998
These niggas is co-signing it,
595
00:26:21,998 --> 00:26:24,917
and they playing it like
it's the truth,
596
00:26:24,917 --> 00:26:26,877
it's almost like
getting that pass.
597
00:26:26,877 --> 00:26:30,923
And y'all's show defined
who was getting that pass.
598
00:26:30,923 --> 00:26:32,717
You know, West Coast artists
weren't really getting
599
00:26:32,717 --> 00:26:35,928
too much love on the radio
back there on the East Coast.
600
00:26:35,928 --> 00:26:38,806
Especially us because
of our marijuana issues
601
00:26:38,806 --> 00:26:40,599
that we bring up.
602
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,852
You know, we've sold close
to 20 million records.
603
00:26:42,852 --> 00:26:46,397
And you guys were the guys
who lit the fires for us.
604
00:26:46,397 --> 00:26:49,734
We're making it on the west,
but this is where it comes from.
605
00:26:49,734 --> 00:26:54,113
Anytime you have an artist
people just don't care about,
606
00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:56,490
they need that one thing
that gives them that pop,
607
00:26:56,490 --> 00:26:58,492
that credibility.
608
00:26:58,492 --> 00:27:02,246
That's something that we were
really missing with the Fugees.
609
00:27:02,246 --> 00:27:03,956
I said, "Stretch,
I really want to have
610
00:27:03,956 --> 00:27:06,333
the Fugees come up
to the show."
611
00:27:06,333 --> 00:27:10,337
And he was like,
"Yeah, no, we're good.
612
00:27:10,337 --> 00:27:13,924
Not gonna happen, but you can
bring Big L and Nas."
613
00:27:13,924 --> 00:27:17,679
After some strong negotiation,
you relented.
614
00:27:17,679 --> 00:27:20,014
♪ Yo, I and I is one
and I and I is two ♪
615
00:27:20,014 --> 00:27:21,724
♪ But I and I makes three ♪
616
00:27:21,724 --> 00:27:23,142
♪ When you're fucking
with the Fugee crew ♪
617
00:27:23,142 --> 00:27:24,977
♪ I move like the phantom ♪
618
00:27:24,977 --> 00:27:27,188
♪ They stalking like the beast
I rise in the east ♪
619
00:27:27,188 --> 00:27:28,981
♪ And if you fuck with me
you'll be deceased ♪
620
00:27:28,981 --> 00:27:31,693
Lauryn and Clef got on the mic
and killed it.
621
00:27:31,693 --> 00:27:33,611
And that's when Bobbito
turned around,
622
00:27:33,611 --> 00:27:35,071
and he was like...
623
00:27:35,071 --> 00:27:36,698
And then I remember
Stretch was like...
624
00:27:36,698 --> 00:27:38,700
♪ Pump your first
as I persist to diss ♪
625
00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:41,494
♪ All of them critics that try
to predict the Fugees shit ♪
626
00:27:41,494 --> 00:27:43,829
♪ But hit or miss hit or miss
just like my clitoris ♪
627
00:27:43,829 --> 00:27:46,791
(Rapping fading)
628
00:27:46,791 --> 00:27:50,503
For the Fugees to be able
to not only get on the show
629
00:27:50,503 --> 00:27:53,798
but then kill it,
you guys are like star makers.
630
00:27:53,798 --> 00:27:55,132
Tonight, something special
happened.
631
00:27:55,132 --> 00:27:56,842
The Fugees are on the map.
632
00:27:56,842 --> 00:28:00,179
I remember KRS-One
came up here one night,
633
00:28:00,179 --> 00:28:04,183
and he was rhyming about
the British troops in Angola.
634
00:28:04,183 --> 00:28:06,310
♪ On January 30th, 1906 ♪
635
00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:08,646
♪ 3,000 Africans were killed
by some Brits ♪
636
00:28:08,646 --> 00:28:11,398
♪ They don't quit British
troops to be exact, ♪
637
00:28:11,398 --> 00:28:13,067
♪ It's called
the Bambataa Massacre ♪
638
00:28:13,067 --> 00:28:15,194
♪ This took place
in South Africa ♪
639
00:28:15,194 --> 00:28:17,571
♪ May 4th, 1978,
they still killing ♪
640
00:28:17,571 --> 00:28:19,448
♪ 700 African men,
women and children ♪
641
00:28:19,448 --> 00:28:21,450
♪ Tell the world I told ya ♪
642
00:28:21,450 --> 00:28:25,079
♪ This particular killing took
place in Cassinga, Angola ♪
643
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:26,914
And I went and talked to a
professor about it
644
00:28:26,914 --> 00:28:31,293
the next day, like, yeah,
trying to represent hip-hop.
645
00:28:31,293 --> 00:28:34,588
"Hip-hop talks about history,
and KRS was rhyming
646
00:28:34,588 --> 00:28:37,174
about British troops
in Angola,"
647
00:28:37,174 --> 00:28:39,051
and she was like, "The British
were never in Angola.
648
00:28:39,051 --> 00:28:43,264
It was the Portuguese."
(Laughter)
649
00:28:43,264 --> 00:28:45,683
You must learn.
650
00:28:45,683 --> 00:28:48,811
(Humming)
651
00:28:48,811 --> 00:28:52,815
(Laughing)
652
00:28:52,815 --> 00:28:54,817
Y'all guys
are real hilarious.
653
00:28:54,817 --> 00:28:58,487
Stretch,
say something on the mic, kid.
654
00:28:58,487 --> 00:29:00,364
Halalulu, hobbits.
655
00:29:00,364 --> 00:29:03,576
Stretch: Pretty early on,
Bobbito was the voice,
656
00:29:03,576 --> 00:29:05,536
and I was the silent DJ.
657
00:29:05,536 --> 00:29:08,080
Funkmaster Flex pulled me
to the side unprompted
658
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,708
and said, "yo, Stretch,
you're the DJ.
659
00:29:10,708 --> 00:29:14,420
This is your show.
DJ to DJ, you need to talk."
660
00:29:14,420 --> 00:29:19,133
Reggie was at my house.
And, uh, he didn't ask me.
661
00:29:19,133 --> 00:29:21,719
He just went--
he was there for a long time.
662
00:29:21,719 --> 00:29:24,263
He was smoking a lot of blunts
and went to brush his teeth.
663
00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:25,848
He used a toothbrush.
664
00:29:25,848 --> 00:29:29,768
He used the old
"Clean the sneaker" toothbrush.
665
00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:31,854
(Laughter
and overlapping voices)
666
00:29:35,608 --> 00:29:37,276
It's hard to get sleep
when you're laughing.
667
00:29:37,276 --> 00:29:40,446
You ever laugh and sleep?
It's kind of difficult.
668
00:29:40,446 --> 00:29:42,072
♪ Breath hangs the rest ♪
669
00:29:42,072 --> 00:29:43,741
♪ Your breath smells
like burning flesh ♪
670
00:29:43,741 --> 00:29:45,367
♪ And Lord Sear's left breast ♪
671
00:29:45,367 --> 00:29:49,914
Ah, yeah, uh, it's like that.
Uh, like that.
672
00:29:49,914 --> 00:29:51,874
(Laughter and hooting)
673
00:29:58,756 --> 00:30:00,049
Lord Sear's left breast.
674
00:30:00,049 --> 00:30:02,092
You told me, yo,
good friend of mine,
675
00:30:02,092 --> 00:30:04,053
Stretch, on that show,
Columbia University.
676
00:30:04,053 --> 00:30:06,472
I know you like rap,
and I know you like food.
677
00:30:06,472 --> 00:30:09,893
You like soda.
It's all there. Come through.
678
00:30:09,893 --> 00:30:12,519
(Laughter)
679
00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:14,772
"I'll go!"
I became the resident jokester.
680
00:30:14,772 --> 00:30:16,815
- Rosario, do you drink?
- No, I'm not old enough.
681
00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:18,567
You smoke?
How old are you?
682
00:30:18,567 --> 00:30:20,152
20.
683
00:30:20,152 --> 00:30:21,863
You don't smoke
no crack or nothing?!
684
00:30:21,863 --> 00:30:22,988
What's your problem?!
685
00:30:22,988 --> 00:30:25,909
No, baby, I'm clean, yo.
686
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:27,243
You could lick this.
687
00:30:27,243 --> 00:30:28,870
(Laughter)
688
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:31,580
Y-y-y-y-y-yo.
689
00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:33,499
(Rap music playing
in background)
690
00:30:40,924 --> 00:30:43,384
Man on telephone:
This is Ralph, man.
691
00:30:43,384 --> 00:30:45,052
Bobbito: Where you calling from,
Ralph?
692
00:30:45,052 --> 00:30:47,221
From D'agostino's, man.
D'agostino's?
693
00:30:47,221 --> 00:30:49,682
(Laughter and fart noises)
694
00:31:20,170 --> 00:31:22,131
Crazy Legs: That was different
because normally,
695
00:31:22,131 --> 00:31:24,591
people didn't get snapped on.
696
00:31:24,591 --> 00:31:26,176
That was very different.
697
00:31:26,176 --> 00:31:29,763
Then Lord Sear came up with
"AKA Jennifer Beals"
698
00:31:29,763 --> 00:31:32,433
because I double for
Jennifer Beals in "Flashdance."
699
00:31:32,433 --> 00:31:34,727
(Laughter)
You know, it's good.
700
00:31:34,727 --> 00:31:36,980
Ciao, baby.
701
00:31:36,980 --> 00:31:40,357
This is Rosie Perez, how y'all
doing out there tonight?
702
00:31:40,357 --> 00:31:42,443
You enjoying the show?
703
00:31:42,443 --> 00:31:43,902
Yes, I am.
704
00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:45,571
Hello? Hello?
Am I here?
705
00:31:45,571 --> 00:31:48,574
- You're here.
- You did that so exquisitely.
706
00:31:48,574 --> 00:31:51,160
I just would like to comment
on the haircuts
707
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,287
that I'm peeping tonight.
708
00:31:53,287 --> 00:31:56,373
- Uh-huh.
- You guys use the same bowl?
709
00:31:56,373 --> 00:32:00,836
(Laughter and shouting)
710
00:32:00,836 --> 00:32:03,047
Oh, my gosh.
711
00:32:03,047 --> 00:32:06,133
Remember there was this guy
who did a poem
712
00:32:06,133 --> 00:32:08,010
about "cungalingus"
on your show,
713
00:32:08,010 --> 00:32:09,845
and he dedicated it to me.
714
00:32:09,845 --> 00:32:12,514
He was saying
about the "cungalingus."
715
00:32:12,514 --> 00:32:14,683
- Yeah.
- You don't remember that?
To me?
716
00:32:14,683 --> 00:32:16,978
- Yeah.
- He caught me totally off-guard.
717
00:32:16,978 --> 00:32:18,520
That's the best kind
of cunnilingus.
718
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,230
(Laughter)
719
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:21,899
What the--
720
00:32:21,899 --> 00:32:25,527
Damn! Stretch and Bobbito
show's incredible!
721
00:32:25,527 --> 00:32:27,654
We had a snap battle
with Lord Sear.
722
00:32:27,654 --> 00:32:30,115
I remember big pun when he had
the white doo rag
723
00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:32,159
and a white t-shirt.
724
00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:34,037
He looked like an overweight
nurse back then.
725
00:32:34,037 --> 00:32:37,164
Sear told Pun that he lived
on the second floor
726
00:32:37,164 --> 00:32:41,377
of a White Castle and he had
a slide goes straight down the--
727
00:32:41,377 --> 00:32:43,420
I walked in,
I had shorts on.
728
00:32:43,420 --> 00:32:46,298
The old-school shorts where it
was like they were too long.
729
00:32:46,298 --> 00:32:48,092
They looked like fake capris.
730
00:32:48,092 --> 00:32:50,386
I'm like, "Yo, Pun, what's up,"
and he's like,
731
00:32:50,386 --> 00:32:54,139
"What's up with them midget
cowboy shorts you have on?"
732
00:32:54,139 --> 00:32:56,767
The midget cowboy jeans.
733
00:32:56,767 --> 00:33:00,854
Yo, they was going at it.
Hard!
734
00:33:00,854 --> 00:33:02,773
So I was like, "Yo,
look at your forearms."
735
00:33:02,773 --> 00:33:04,608
They were all fat and hairy.
736
00:33:04,608 --> 00:33:07,569
I said his forearms look like
an overweight pitbull's stomach.
737
00:33:07,569 --> 00:33:10,072
(Laughter)
738
00:33:10,072 --> 00:33:11,740
Just with a hand.
739
00:33:11,740 --> 00:33:15,202
A hand and a pitbull's stomach
with no tail.
740
00:33:15,202 --> 00:33:17,121
I said, "Ruff."
741
00:33:17,121 --> 00:33:18,872
(Barks)
742
00:33:18,872 --> 00:33:21,166
He said, "You're so fucking fat
I could squeeze
743
00:33:21,166 --> 00:33:23,085
a jelly doughnut out
your forehead."
744
00:33:23,085 --> 00:33:25,254
Niggas was just going at it.
745
00:33:28,424 --> 00:33:31,635
It remind a lot of cats
who are right here in Harlem,
746
00:33:31,635 --> 00:33:34,179
like, what it's like when
they out on the corner
747
00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:36,306
just shooting the shit
with their homeboys,
748
00:33:36,306 --> 00:33:40,103
laughing, looking at what
somebody wearing, snapping.
749
00:33:40,103 --> 00:33:42,146
Y'all had the corner in a box.
750
00:33:42,146 --> 00:33:44,273
You'll be on in a second.
751
00:33:44,273 --> 00:33:46,942
Dude, you're on, like, now.
Dude, you're on.
752
00:33:46,942 --> 00:33:49,027
- Mr. Bobbito, my man,
I'm sorry.
- You're on.
753
00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:51,196
It's the Joe Cocker
of hip-hop.
754
00:33:51,196 --> 00:33:53,449
There was a time when you guys
used to do something
755
00:33:53,449 --> 00:33:57,286
called the Dick Olympics,
do you guys remember that?
756
00:33:57,286 --> 00:33:59,705
(Laughter)
757
00:33:59,705 --> 00:34:02,749
- No.
- You don't remember
the Dick Olympics?
758
00:34:02,749 --> 00:34:05,586
Where it was Benji and Sear
and they would talk about
759
00:34:05,586 --> 00:34:08,547
all these different type of--
I'm dead serious.
760
00:34:08,547 --> 00:34:10,340
All these different type
of olympic events
761
00:34:10,340 --> 00:34:12,468
where somebody
was using a dick.
762
00:34:12,468 --> 00:34:16,555
Like hurdling over dicks,
pole vaulting with dicks.
763
00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:19,433
- The javelin.
- The javelin.
You remember.
764
00:34:19,433 --> 00:34:21,143
Mimi: Truth be told,
as much as I love you guys,
765
00:34:21,143 --> 00:34:23,395
I wasn't really into
the humor so much.
766
00:34:23,395 --> 00:34:25,606
- Oh, my God.
- Yeah, not really.
767
00:34:25,606 --> 00:34:27,983
Press the eject button.
(Imitates spring)
768
00:34:27,983 --> 00:34:31,236
(Laughs)
A lot of boy humor.
769
00:34:31,236 --> 00:34:34,406
Zuhirah: Being a woman in the
'90s into hip-hop wasn't easy.
770
00:34:34,406 --> 00:34:38,827
The culture was so exciting
and important
771
00:34:38,827 --> 00:34:40,454
that I sort of looked
at the misogyny
772
00:34:40,454 --> 00:34:43,081
as something
that comes along with it.
773
00:34:43,081 --> 00:34:45,792
I never felt like,
"They're not talking about me."
774
00:34:45,792 --> 00:34:47,753
I always took it
somewhat personally.
775
00:34:47,753 --> 00:34:50,214
Random rappers being like,
"Come sit in my lap."
776
00:34:50,214 --> 00:34:52,925
A lot of the guests kind of
thought you were there
777
00:34:52,925 --> 00:34:55,802
for their amusement,
so, you know,
778
00:34:55,802 --> 00:34:59,097
you develop a thick skin,
but you always treated
779
00:34:59,097 --> 00:35:01,308
me and my friends respectfully
780
00:35:01,308 --> 00:35:04,019
and sort of took us under
your wings in a way,
781
00:35:04,019 --> 00:35:06,813
and so other people treated us
with respect because of that.
782
00:35:06,813 --> 00:35:09,733
What the culture did offer
sort of outweighed the bad.
783
00:35:09,733 --> 00:35:14,780
I was just such a hip-hop fan.
Like, I loved hip-hop so much.
784
00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:18,325
Just everything about it,
the music, the rhyme,
785
00:35:18,325 --> 00:35:21,203
just the energy,
I just realized you know what?
786
00:35:21,203 --> 00:35:23,789
I want to hang out at the show
and what I did specifically
787
00:35:23,789 --> 00:35:26,250
was open the door
because at the time,
788
00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:28,293
they would ring the bell,
we would hear it,
789
00:35:28,293 --> 00:35:30,712
and somebody had to go
downstairs and open the doors.
790
00:35:30,712 --> 00:35:33,924
Like, hi, welcome to the show.
We'll be with you in a minute.
791
00:35:33,924 --> 00:35:36,927
Come upstairs. Follow me.
That was literally what I did.
792
00:35:36,927 --> 00:35:39,222
If they were on the list.
If they were on the list.
793
00:35:39,222 --> 00:35:40,806
Bobbito: Please don't
come by unannounced.
794
00:35:40,806 --> 00:35:42,683
We got too many people
to deal with as it is.
795
00:35:42,683 --> 00:35:46,603
Mimi just stepped into the house
and we got some other guests.
796
00:35:46,603 --> 00:35:48,313
We expecting the Wu-Tang Clan.
797
00:35:48,313 --> 00:35:51,275
Man: Y'all was like the first
ones to really be like,
798
00:35:51,275 --> 00:35:53,777
yo, we want to see y'all,
we want to meet y'all.
799
00:35:53,777 --> 00:35:57,906
I remember going downstairs
and opening the door,
800
00:35:57,906 --> 00:36:01,159
and it was probably
about 20 guys, maybe 30.
801
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:02,619
Raekwon: We here, man,
we in the building.
802
00:36:02,619 --> 00:36:05,080
All got masks on.
Whoa, whoa.
803
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,624
Hold on, hold on, wait.
Who's on the list?
804
00:36:07,624 --> 00:36:09,251
20 of us,
we just up in there.
805
00:36:09,251 --> 00:36:11,003
Peace, everybody,
Wu-Tang Clan representing,
806
00:36:11,003 --> 00:36:12,838
baby, representing.
807
00:36:12,838 --> 00:36:16,258
Specifically it was Method Man
who just started breaking,
808
00:36:16,258 --> 00:36:18,677
screaming, we on the list,
we on the list,
809
00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:20,512
we going upstairs, move out
the way, move out the way.
810
00:36:20,512 --> 00:36:23,974
I was irate.
They violated you
and called you the b-word.
811
00:36:23,974 --> 00:36:27,894
I just told Meth,
yo, B, that's our peoples.
812
00:36:27,894 --> 00:36:30,772
Her role is to regulate
the people that come in.
813
00:36:30,772 --> 00:36:32,941
When he got on the air,
that's when he apologized.
814
00:36:32,941 --> 00:36:34,568
We want to apologize
to this girl
815
00:36:34,568 --> 00:36:36,069
that was down at the front door.
816
00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:37,696
It was a little
misunderstanding,
817
00:36:37,696 --> 00:36:39,448
so I'm going to apologize
to her on the air
818
00:36:39,448 --> 00:36:41,408
and all that 'cause
she got kind of offended.
819
00:36:41,408 --> 00:36:43,118
Enough respect, baby.
820
00:36:43,118 --> 00:36:44,870
I was still pissed off, but...
821
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:46,663
Let's get him on the phone.
822
00:36:46,663 --> 00:36:49,416
1-800 Method Man.
823
00:36:49,416 --> 00:36:51,627
Hey, Method Man!
Method Man!
824
00:36:51,627 --> 00:36:54,255
Is that Method Man?
Method Man!
825
00:36:54,255 --> 00:36:57,132
I eventually had to deal
with Method Man and Wu-Tang
826
00:36:57,132 --> 00:36:59,426
just as an editor at Vibe,
827
00:36:59,426 --> 00:37:02,679
so it was always funny to me
that they became so big.
828
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:04,890
Hey! Hey!
What, what.
829
00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:08,268
I got to get it going on.
Yeah. Down the stair.
830
00:37:08,268 --> 00:37:10,312
♪ Hey, hey,
I swing funky rap routines ♪
831
00:37:10,312 --> 00:37:12,773
♪ And tap the jaws
spot you 20 points ♪
832
00:37:12,773 --> 00:37:14,316
♪ And you still can't score ♪
833
00:37:14,316 --> 00:37:16,568
♪ Fresh out the toilet,
I got my shit together ♪
834
00:37:16,568 --> 00:37:19,655
♪ When I'm good, I'm good,
when bad, I'm better ♪
835
00:37:19,655 --> 00:37:22,324
♪ All on my name
but you can't pull my file ♪
836
00:37:22,324 --> 00:37:24,993
♪ You don't know me,
and you don't know my style ♪
837
00:37:24,993 --> 00:37:27,329
♪ Remember that there like that,
there, yeah ♪
838
00:37:27,329 --> 00:37:29,790
♪ Even Grizzly Adams
couldn't bear ♪
839
00:37:29,790 --> 00:37:31,917
Ghostface Killah:
Yo, check it.
840
00:37:31,917 --> 00:37:34,836
Fresh joint from out the stash.
Yo, yo.
841
00:37:34,836 --> 00:37:36,922
♪ First of all son,
peep the arson ♪
842
00:37:36,922 --> 00:37:39,216
♪ Many brothers I be sparkin'
and bustin' mad ♪
843
00:37:39,216 --> 00:37:41,468
♪ Light inside the dark
and call me dough snatcher ♪
844
00:37:41,468 --> 00:37:43,929
♪ Just a brother for the rapture
I hang-glide ♪
845
00:37:43,929 --> 00:37:45,806
♪ Holdin' on strong,
hard to capture ♪
846
00:37:45,806 --> 00:37:47,391
♪ Extravagant,
RZA bake the track ♪
847
00:37:47,391 --> 00:37:49,059
♪ And it's militant
then I react ♪
848
00:37:49,059 --> 00:37:51,019
♪ Like a convict
and start killin' shit ♪
849
00:37:51,019 --> 00:37:53,647
♪ It's 9th chamber, you get
trapped inside my hallway ♪
850
00:37:53,647 --> 00:37:56,233
♪ You try to flee but you got
smoked by the doorway ♪
851
00:37:56,233 --> 00:37:59,069
♪ While I'll be trapped
by sounds, locked behind loops ♪
852
00:37:59,069 --> 00:38:01,530
♪ Throwin' niggas off airplanes
cause cash rules ♪
853
00:38:01,530 --> 00:38:04,199
♪ Everything around me
black as you can see ♪
854
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:06,827
♪ Swallow this number-one
verse like God degree ♪
855
00:38:06,827 --> 00:38:09,413
♪ And analyze my soundtrack
for satisfaction ♪
856
00:38:09,413 --> 00:38:12,916
♪ And you adapt like
a flashback chain reaction ♪
857
00:38:12,916 --> 00:38:15,544
Method Man: Can't nobody,
can't nothing come after that.
858
00:38:15,544 --> 00:38:18,130
Ghostface blew up the spot.
859
00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:20,424
Hip-hop was on KCR.
860
00:38:20,424 --> 00:38:24,469
This was unsigned masterpieces,
man.
861
00:38:24,469 --> 00:38:26,430
We listen to the demos,
me and Stretch.
862
00:38:26,430 --> 00:38:28,890
And if we like them,
then we play them on the air.
863
00:38:28,890 --> 00:38:30,726
Bonz Malone: If you could
get on the train
864
00:38:30,726 --> 00:38:33,979
and get down here in time,
we could battle right here.
865
00:38:33,979 --> 00:38:36,732
Bob I remember
having this idea
866
00:38:36,732 --> 00:38:38,650
that we would have
the demo battle.
867
00:38:38,650 --> 00:38:42,404
This is one of my most
favorite memories
868
00:38:42,404 --> 00:38:45,991
about being involved
with the show is this battle.
869
00:38:45,991 --> 00:38:50,704
The Bronx Zu versus
The Notorious B.I.G.,
870
00:38:50,704 --> 00:38:53,206
and the Bronx Zu won.
871
00:38:53,206 --> 00:38:55,292
♪ This is a recording,
this is ain't a recording ♪
872
00:38:55,292 --> 00:38:57,461
♪ Just a funky party
to defeat the boredom ♪
873
00:38:57,461 --> 00:38:59,671
♪ Lou Tan, Lou Tan
get in to my mood swing ♪
874
00:38:59,671 --> 00:39:01,923
♪ Oh, it's just my man,
just a Bronx Zu thing ♪
875
00:39:01,923 --> 00:39:06,928
That early in the show,
a Bronx or Uptown artist
876
00:39:06,928 --> 00:39:08,722
might have a home team
advantage.
877
00:39:08,722 --> 00:39:09,931
Bronx Zu:
Who's running shit?
878
00:39:09,931 --> 00:39:13,226
Men:
176th! Ho!
879
00:39:13,226 --> 00:39:16,188
He was tight.
He was tight.
880
00:39:16,188 --> 00:39:18,356
Came in here talking
about the Bronx Zu,
881
00:39:18,356 --> 00:39:19,900
how,
"They ain't better than me."
882
00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:21,860
You'll hear some of it
on the tape.
883
00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:23,987
That's the weird thing
about this night is that--
884
00:39:23,987 --> 00:39:26,114
No one taped it.
885
00:39:26,114 --> 00:39:28,116
Dude, like, me and Stretch
used to tape
886
00:39:28,116 --> 00:39:30,660
at least, you know,
every other show.
887
00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:33,038
It's the craziest thing that
the most important artists
888
00:39:33,038 --> 00:39:35,207
that came through
these doors--
889
00:39:35,207 --> 00:39:37,542
y'all ain't tape it 'cause
you ain't know who Big was.
890
00:39:37,542 --> 00:39:39,377
No, we knew who Big was.
891
00:39:39,377 --> 00:39:41,713
We didn't know who he was
gonna become.
892
00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:43,757
Well,
I know who did record it.
893
00:39:43,757 --> 00:39:45,759
Let's do it.
894
00:39:45,759 --> 00:39:49,679
It ain't got the date on it.
But that's just 23 years ago.
895
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:51,223
Wow.
896
00:39:51,223 --> 00:39:54,059
Bobbito: We got Notorious B.I.G.
in the house.
897
00:39:54,059 --> 00:39:57,562
- So what's up?
- B.I.G.: Ain't nothing large.
I'm just chilling, you know.
898
00:39:57,562 --> 00:39:59,815
Bobbito: So what's up, yo?
You rolled up here.
899
00:39:59,815 --> 00:40:01,691
You know what I'm saying?
You ready to rep?
900
00:40:01,691 --> 00:40:03,360
B.I.G.: I was looking
for them Bronx Zu brothers,
901
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,903
you know what I'm saying?
902
00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:07,030
Niggas think they came off.
903
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:08,657
I just came to set
the record straight.
904
00:40:08,657 --> 00:40:10,408
(Speaking indistinctly)
905
00:40:10,408 --> 00:40:13,537
All right, B, well, yo, you here
to show and prove--
906
00:40:13,537 --> 00:40:16,499
He was 16.
907
00:40:16,499 --> 00:40:18,875
♪ Mumblin'
and whisperin' is what I hear ♪
908
00:40:18,875 --> 00:40:20,794
♪ When B .I .G. appear
on the scene ♪
909
00:40:20,794 --> 00:40:23,171
♪ Niggas get scared, why?
I'm not the stick-up man ♪
910
00:40:23,171 --> 00:40:24,714
♪ I don't want the rings
on your hand ♪
911
00:40:24,714 --> 00:40:26,467
♪ I don't understand ♪
912
00:40:26,467 --> 00:40:28,927
♪ When I come through the avenue
I must know voodoo ♪
913
00:40:28,927 --> 00:40:31,054
♪ Cause all eyes are on
you know who ♪
914
00:40:31,054 --> 00:40:33,765
♪ And my so-called friends
beg for ends for me to lend ♪
915
00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:35,767
♪ But this bankroll,
they won't spend ♪
916
00:40:35,767 --> 00:40:38,270
♪ Open your eyes and realize
ain't no sugar in my tank ♪
917
00:40:38,270 --> 00:40:40,647
♪ Out of all my friends there's
just one I want to thank ♪
918
00:40:40,647 --> 00:40:42,983
♪ My man big d taught me
a lesson that was great ♪
919
00:40:42,983 --> 00:40:45,068
♪ That good things come
to those who wait ♪
920
00:40:45,068 --> 00:40:47,237
♪ And we've waited through
the suffering and pain ♪
921
00:40:47,237 --> 00:40:49,406
♪ And bitches ride
the dick like the a-train ♪
922
00:40:49,406 --> 00:40:52,117
♪ That's why I flip
keep a burner to my hip ♪
923
00:40:52,117 --> 00:40:54,202
♪ Take a hooker to the crib,
you know she got to strip ♪
924
00:40:54,202 --> 00:40:56,580
♪ Stay dipped,
take out-of-state trips ♪
925
00:40:56,580 --> 00:40:58,915
♪ Don't drink a lot of Hennessy,
I only take a sip ♪
926
00:40:58,915 --> 00:41:00,543
♪ I'm not a paper gangster
of no sort ♪
927
00:41:00,543 --> 00:41:02,002
♪ I do smoke Newports ♪
928
00:41:02,002 --> 00:41:03,670
♪ When I get stressed
I grab my vest ♪
929
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:05,839
♪ Damn, tried to give you
the warning sign ♪
930
00:41:05,839 --> 00:41:08,174
♪ When I said "chill,"
I wasn't saying ll's rhyme ♪
931
00:41:08,174 --> 00:41:10,385
♪ I was telling ya
not to tear up ♪
932
00:41:10,385 --> 00:41:12,429
♪ 'Cause he will rip tear up,
I'm telling you not to erupt ♪
933
00:41:12,429 --> 00:41:15,348
♪ 'Cause he's just as corrupt
as a DJ should be ♪
934
00:41:15,348 --> 00:41:17,601
♪ 50 grand,
and I'm the B.I.G. ♪
935
00:41:17,601 --> 00:41:19,769
(Laughter)
23 years in the making.
936
00:41:19,769 --> 00:41:22,397
(Shouts)
1991.
937
00:41:22,397 --> 00:41:25,025
You are the man!
938
00:41:25,025 --> 00:41:26,818
89.9 was our radio signal,
939
00:41:26,818 --> 00:41:29,404
and 89 tec 9 became
like our catchphrase,
940
00:41:29,404 --> 00:41:31,698
and the tec in that
was for techniques
941
00:41:31,698 --> 00:41:34,826
like techniques on the
turntables, skills on the mic.
942
00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:37,120
Pharoahe Monch: If you were
coming up in New York City
943
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,581
that's the way you had to go.
944
00:41:38,581 --> 00:41:40,832
It's either that
or "Da-ha, da-ha."
945
00:41:40,832 --> 00:41:43,126
(Laughter)
946
00:41:43,126 --> 00:41:45,295
♪ One nation under
this rap shit indivisible ♪
947
00:41:45,295 --> 00:41:47,297
♪ Never mess up-up
anymore ♪
948
00:41:47,297 --> 00:41:49,550
♪ Pharoahe the crit-ically
acclaimed rap professional ♪
949
00:41:49,550 --> 00:41:52,093
♪ Keeping computer digital
but hark the best be ♪
950
00:41:52,093 --> 00:41:54,095
(Laughs)
♪ This expert who could
keep niggas alert ♪
951
00:41:54,095 --> 00:41:56,181
♪ In a school for narcolepsy ♪
952
00:41:56,181 --> 00:41:58,433
♪ When I'm in a innovative state
of mind, I'm innovative ♪
953
00:41:58,433 --> 00:42:00,101
♪ Never been afraid of rocking
a microphone ♪
954
00:42:00,101 --> 00:42:02,020
♪ I'm prone to be eliminating ♪
955
00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:04,731
♪ Sing a song of six pence,
it makes sense then sing along ♪
956
00:42:04,731 --> 00:42:07,609
♪ Cling on to my nuts, if you
got guts then bring it on ♪
957
00:42:07,609 --> 00:42:09,861
(Laughter and clapping)
Stretch:
Watch out, he's coming!
958
00:42:12,322 --> 00:42:14,699
I'm clinging to his nuts!
959
00:42:14,699 --> 00:42:16,451
- Bring it on.
- 25 years!
960
00:42:16,451 --> 00:42:20,372
It was like the highlight
of hip-hop at the time
961
00:42:20,372 --> 00:42:22,040
as a lyricist,
you know what I mean?
962
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,542
And come there and freestyle
963
00:42:24,542 --> 00:42:27,295
and realize that the city
964
00:42:27,295 --> 00:42:30,924
is listening to you right now
in the moment.
965
00:42:30,924 --> 00:42:32,593
This is different
from the stage.
966
00:42:32,593 --> 00:42:34,386
This is different from your room
where you're writing
967
00:42:34,386 --> 00:42:36,137
or the lab or the basement.
968
00:42:36,137 --> 00:42:40,558
This is like broadcasting
on air lyricism.
969
00:42:40,558 --> 00:42:43,311
Just go?
970
00:42:43,311 --> 00:42:45,814
Yo, this is Large Professor,
Extra P.
971
00:42:45,814 --> 00:42:47,816
I remember asking y'all,
saying to one of y'all,
972
00:42:47,816 --> 00:42:50,402
"Yo, I'm going to bring
the drum machine.
973
00:42:50,402 --> 00:42:52,153
Yo, we should get busy,"
and it was like,
974
00:42:52,153 --> 00:42:54,155
"Yo, all right, cool,
bring it through."
975
00:42:54,155 --> 00:42:57,325
Bobbito:
Large brought up his sampler,
so guess what?
976
00:42:57,325 --> 00:43:00,621
I think peoples need
to get home right now,
977
00:43:00,621 --> 00:43:02,665
get your tape decks ready,
because we got some shit
978
00:43:02,665 --> 00:43:04,165
for you tonight,
that's word to my mother.
979
00:43:04,165 --> 00:43:06,167
What radio show does that?
980
00:43:06,167 --> 00:43:08,586
Lets a dude set up
a SP 1200
981
00:43:08,586 --> 00:43:12,173
and then has dudes rhyming
over programmed beats?
982
00:43:12,173 --> 00:43:14,050
What radio show
is doing that now?
983
00:43:14,050 --> 00:43:17,387
- Bobbito: Had you done
that before at a radio station?
- No, no.
984
00:43:17,387 --> 00:43:22,559
I don't think anyone really
had ever done that before.
985
00:43:22,559 --> 00:43:23,685
My name is Bobbito.
986
00:43:23,685 --> 00:43:25,020
(Drum machine playing randomly)
987
00:43:25,020 --> 00:43:27,022
Yo, yo,
this is Stretch Armstrong.
988
00:43:27,022 --> 00:43:30,316
Stretch: Yeah, most definitely
the Stretch Armstrong.
989
00:43:30,316 --> 00:43:31,943
(Voices playing on sampler)
990
00:43:31,943 --> 00:43:34,738
That was the large p beat,
he had the sp up there.
991
00:43:34,738 --> 00:43:37,240
♪ O.C., boy how you be-- ♪
992
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:39,993
He was right next to me
saying this.
993
00:43:39,993 --> 00:43:41,662
♪ Niggas can keep the booyaka ♪
994
00:43:41,662 --> 00:43:43,413
♪ I call it the clod
that's anonymous ♪
995
00:43:43,413 --> 00:43:45,999
All right,
this brings back memories.
996
00:43:45,999 --> 00:43:48,711
♪ I'm reigning dominant
over niggas that's rated raw ♪
997
00:43:48,711 --> 00:43:51,755
♪ I figured they less, so hey,
takes four metaphors ♪
998
00:43:51,755 --> 00:43:54,466
♪ Peep lines out, I preach
rhymes out my larynx ♪
999
00:43:54,466 --> 00:43:57,052
♪ Use insight to invite
what I'm slammin' next ♪
1000
00:43:57,052 --> 00:43:59,804
♪ Bickery, MC's
gettin' off the trickery ♪
1001
00:43:59,804 --> 00:44:02,683
♪ tme will tell who will shine
like Jew-els from Tiffany's ♪
1002
00:44:02,683 --> 00:44:05,435
♪ Those few who are chosen'll
shine crystal ♪
1003
00:44:05,435 --> 00:44:08,188
♪ Let's go back to old slang
like a pist-al ♪
1004
00:44:08,188 --> 00:44:10,523
♪ Thou fate shall
go back to the prey ♪
1005
00:44:10,523 --> 00:44:13,318
♪ And I don't need effect
to be like echo and decay ♪
1006
00:44:13,318 --> 00:44:16,029
♪ And my skill is pure,
down deep from the root ♪
1007
00:44:16,029 --> 00:44:17,947
♪ At the same time I'll jam
a microphone ♪
1008
00:44:17,947 --> 00:44:19,741
♪ Up like soot in your pipe ♪
1009
00:44:19,741 --> 00:44:21,451
♪ My poetry shows
are right ♪
1010
00:44:21,451 --> 00:44:24,037
♪ Fuck hype from a promo
or some ill ass snipes ♪
1011
00:44:24,037 --> 00:44:26,998
♪ I go raw dog, always on
my off and defense ♪
1012
00:44:26,998 --> 00:44:29,793
♪ Workin' good with the two,
leavin' niggas in intense ♪
1013
00:44:29,793 --> 00:44:32,295
♪ If O.C. lay low
like ooh-la-la ♪
1014
00:44:32,295 --> 00:44:34,589
♪ You'll French kiss
with my fist shooting a diss ♪
1015
00:44:34,589 --> 00:44:36,508
♪ Pass me the apparatus ♪
1016
00:44:36,508 --> 00:44:38,218
♪ Let me show you how to work
a verse ♪
1017
00:44:38,218 --> 00:44:40,553
♪ The scientist,
the mad scientist will first ♪
1018
00:44:40,553 --> 00:44:43,556
♪ Give a grammatical example,
a sample of truth ♪
1019
00:44:43,556 --> 00:44:46,017
♪ Soon to be a mega legacy
for all of you ♪
1020
00:44:46,017 --> 00:44:48,520
♪ Listen the lyrical physician
is back, black ♪
1021
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,980
♪ With stacks of props
and outfox and mop ♪
1022
00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:52,690
♪ Niggas'll flop
who's in town ♪
1023
00:44:52,690 --> 00:44:54,567
♪ Defend your title,
bring it to me ♪
1024
00:44:54,567 --> 00:44:57,320
♪ The organism will bring
your rhyme time to an end ♪
1025
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,572
♪ Zone is called desert
I resurrect ♪
1026
00:44:59,572 --> 00:45:02,075
♪ Intellect surrounds
boundaries when I'm present ♪
1027
00:45:02,075 --> 00:45:04,202
♪ In Queens County still,
trying to pursue ♪
1028
00:45:04,202 --> 00:45:05,995
I don't even need
to hear no more, man.
1029
00:45:05,995 --> 00:45:09,124
Like, now I remember it.
That's crazy.
1030
00:45:09,124 --> 00:45:11,042
It was like he threw me
the rock,
1031
00:45:11,042 --> 00:45:13,711
and I almost fum--
know what I'm saying?
1032
00:45:13,711 --> 00:45:16,047
♪ Look what the night bought,
this is night court ♪
1033
00:45:16,047 --> 00:45:18,633
♪ You charged with misuse
of a mic like you're nice ♪
1034
00:45:18,633 --> 00:45:21,010
♪ Step into the o-zone ♪
1035
00:45:21,010 --> 00:45:23,596
I was nervous, and I didn't want
to mess up in front of him.
1036
00:45:23,596 --> 00:45:25,390
That was the main thing
on my mind.
1037
00:45:25,390 --> 00:45:27,392
I don't want to mess up
in front of Large Professor.
1038
00:45:27,392 --> 00:45:29,227
I'm just going to take
a bass note.
1039
00:45:29,227 --> 00:45:32,480
I was playing the bass then
just making these cave beats,
1040
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,274
and I just wanted
to play it live.
1041
00:45:34,274 --> 00:45:36,192
And that's really where I was
at my pinnacle
1042
00:45:36,192 --> 00:45:37,819
of just wanting to get busy.
1043
00:45:37,819 --> 00:45:40,488
Y'all caught me, like,
really feeling it, like,
1044
00:45:40,488 --> 00:45:43,700
yo, I'm just going to be
freestyling now and buggin'.
1045
00:45:43,700 --> 00:45:47,537
Regulation status,
you know what I'm saying?
(Laughs)
1046
00:45:47,537 --> 00:45:51,291
I appreciate the art of being
able to just go off the top,
1047
00:45:51,291 --> 00:45:54,502
interacting with everybody and
saying, "We all a part of this."
1048
00:45:54,502 --> 00:45:56,880
♪ On the mcrophone,
I'm the kid plus the wiz ♪
1049
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,842
♪ Got the brother Bobbito,
I'm in like cognito ♪
1050
00:45:59,842 --> 00:46:02,510
♪ around the way, ha,
just like Carlito ♪
1051
00:46:02,510 --> 00:46:05,180
♪ Plus Stretch Armstrong,
I got the comm song ♪
1052
00:46:05,180 --> 00:46:08,308
More versus than a Kramer,
go off like a pager
1053
00:46:08,308 --> 00:46:11,686
skills uglier than Craig Mac,
in your ear, I'm the flavor.
1054
00:46:11,686 --> 00:46:14,105
My old girls say--
I'm gonna update it.
1055
00:46:14,105 --> 00:46:16,524
My old girls say,
"Boy, you got flows."
1056
00:46:16,524 --> 00:46:19,611
I'm watching the Dulls again
'cause they got D Rose.
1057
00:46:19,611 --> 00:46:23,281
A million black men
walking in one direction.
1058
00:46:23,281 --> 00:46:26,034
The cream of the planet's
resurrection.
1059
00:46:26,034 --> 00:46:28,745
(Laughter)
I got goosebumps.
1060
00:46:28,745 --> 00:46:30,872
I'll give you the written,
and I'll give you the freestyle
1061
00:46:30,872 --> 00:46:32,582
that's like a player
that's got real game
1062
00:46:32,582 --> 00:46:34,459
that can go
to the dunk contest, too.
1063
00:46:34,459 --> 00:46:36,544
I like being able
to just say something
1064
00:46:36,544 --> 00:46:38,296
that just happened right there.
1065
00:46:38,296 --> 00:46:40,131
♪ With slur style, word,
I'm gonna kill ya ♪
1066
00:46:40,131 --> 00:46:42,133
♪ Feel ya to the cemetery ♪
1067
00:46:42,133 --> 00:46:44,802
♪ Then that's very,
'don't grab my hood ♪
1068
00:46:44,802 --> 00:46:47,013
♪ Yo, I stabbed you good,
it's how I'm rapping ♪
1069
00:46:47,013 --> 00:46:48,932
♪ Yo, I smack men in the face
like a mack do ♪
1070
00:46:48,932 --> 00:46:50,600
♪ Straight
from East Oakland ♪
1071
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,560
♪ Yo, I'm not gonna say
smoke men ♪
1072
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,354
♪ 'Cause the other MC
said it ♪
1073
00:46:54,354 --> 00:46:55,772
♪ But we didn't read it ♪
1074
00:46:55,772 --> 00:46:57,482
♪ We made it up
right here and now ♪
1075
00:46:57,482 --> 00:47:00,276
♪ WKCR, hey,
we are the MCs ♪
1076
00:47:00,276 --> 00:47:02,028
♪ And nobody tempt these ♪
1077
00:47:02,028 --> 00:47:04,239
♪ Peace to Stretch
and Bobby too ♪
1078
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,116
♪ And I'm rhyming through
your whole crew, that's true ♪
1079
00:47:07,116 --> 00:47:09,244
Dante: It's one of the craziest
freestyle sessions ever.
1080
00:47:09,244 --> 00:47:13,539
They just fucking killed it,
like killed it.
1081
00:47:13,539 --> 00:47:16,459
Just so you know, we
made it up right here.
Right here, right now.
1082
00:47:16,459 --> 00:47:18,336
I remember just fucking
taping it and listening to it
1083
00:47:18,336 --> 00:47:20,588
the next day going,
"Why am I not signing them?"
1084
00:47:20,588 --> 00:47:22,590
For us,
it was important
1085
00:47:22,590 --> 00:47:24,509
to encourage cats
to come up, rhyme.
1086
00:47:24,509 --> 00:47:26,386
Didn't matter if it was off
the top of the head, written.
1087
00:47:26,386 --> 00:47:28,429
We didn't care if you
were signed or unsigned.
1088
00:47:28,429 --> 00:47:30,682
Just create something
that's special
1089
00:47:30,682 --> 00:47:32,392
because this isn't
for the record sales,
1090
00:47:32,392 --> 00:47:33,977
this isn't for the charts.
1091
00:47:33,977 --> 00:47:35,853
This isn't for your
album-release party.
1092
00:47:35,853 --> 00:47:37,146
This is hip-hop.
1093
00:47:37,146 --> 00:47:38,899
Black thought:
One, two, one, two, okay
1094
00:47:38,899 --> 00:47:41,025
♪ No need to ask my initial ♪
1095
00:47:41,025 --> 00:47:43,736
♪ Illafifth P 5 D
most official ♪
1096
00:47:43,736 --> 00:47:46,114
♪ Rip through fraudulent
rappers like tissue ♪
1097
00:47:46,114 --> 00:47:48,783
♪ What's the whole issue?
Don't mean to diss you ♪
1098
00:47:48,783 --> 00:47:50,952
The best part of this culture
is freestyle.
1099
00:47:50,952 --> 00:47:55,123
The best part of hip-hop is
an artist being put on the spot
1100
00:47:55,123 --> 00:47:57,542
and dropping those lyrics
right then and there.
1101
00:47:57,542 --> 00:48:00,003
Through all the bullshit
and through all the politics,
1102
00:48:00,003 --> 00:48:01,713
the artists that really shine
are the ones
1103
00:48:01,713 --> 00:48:03,423
that just speak from the heart.
1104
00:48:03,423 --> 00:48:07,552
Hip-hop is the consciousness
of oppressed people.
1105
00:48:07,552 --> 00:48:11,431
Hip-hop
is the blues music
1106
00:48:11,431 --> 00:48:15,643
on a hyper-faster scale.
1107
00:48:15,643 --> 00:48:18,646
Attempting to conquer
the problems that happened
1108
00:48:18,646 --> 00:48:21,149
throughout the course
of the last week,
1109
00:48:21,149 --> 00:48:23,609
whether it was my homelessness,
1110
00:48:23,609 --> 00:48:26,612
whether it was this one
that just lost his job.
1111
00:48:26,612 --> 00:48:29,032
By the time you get
to this microphone here,
1112
00:48:29,032 --> 00:48:31,784
you want to express
how you conquered your problems,
1113
00:48:31,784 --> 00:48:33,954
grabbed your woman,
made love,
1114
00:48:33,954 --> 00:48:35,830
and came back and did it again.
1115
00:48:35,830 --> 00:48:37,915
I'm gonna play you something.
Sure.
1116
00:48:37,915 --> 00:48:40,001
Put your headphone on,
all right.
1117
00:48:42,253 --> 00:48:46,632
(Rapping indistinctly)
1118
00:48:46,632 --> 00:48:49,052
♪ Damn, it feels great
to feel the wheels rotate ♪
1119
00:48:49,052 --> 00:48:52,513
Oh-h-h-h!
♪ with the 4-5-6 ♪
1120
00:48:52,513 --> 00:48:55,016
♪ Fantastic take as I ride
through the avenue ♪
1121
00:48:55,016 --> 00:48:56,726
♪ Ooh, in the funky new ♪
1122
00:48:56,726 --> 00:49:00,188
Yo, I need a copy of this.
Yo!
1123
00:49:00,188 --> 00:49:02,231
♪ Suckas so jel
they just wanna flip ♪
1124
00:49:02,231 --> 00:49:04,776
♪ Freestylin'
in the back seat... ♪
1125
00:49:04,776 --> 00:49:07,028
♪ Broke bitches on the dick
'cause now I'm the shit ♪
1126
00:49:07,028 --> 00:49:09,572
♪ I'm grand ghetto on the mic
just havin' a fit... ♪
1127
00:49:09,572 --> 00:49:11,741
Oh, shucks.
1128
00:49:11,741 --> 00:49:13,618
Yo,
I made this up on the spot.
1129
00:49:13,618 --> 00:49:16,621
♪ ...because you ain't
no drug dealer ♪
1130
00:49:16,621 --> 00:49:18,081
Blues.
1131
00:49:18,081 --> 00:49:20,166
Those feelings were created
1132
00:49:20,166 --> 00:49:22,293
through experiences
that I acquired
1133
00:49:22,293 --> 00:49:25,338
going through such situations
in order to hustle
1134
00:49:25,338 --> 00:49:28,966
to pretty much keep going
in spite of homelessness.
1135
00:49:28,966 --> 00:49:33,054
You gotta realize there's no
such phrase as homelessness.
1136
00:49:33,054 --> 00:49:37,058
You are never less than the home
that you make for yourself.
1137
00:49:37,058 --> 00:49:38,935
Old School Ran-Dee:
I remember first
listening to you guys' show,
1138
00:49:38,935 --> 00:49:41,312
I was in Fort Bragg.
I was in the army at the time.
1139
00:49:41,312 --> 00:49:44,190
And I was getting ready
for Operation Desert Shield.
1140
00:49:44,190 --> 00:49:47,110
North Carolina back then
was like,
1141
00:49:47,110 --> 00:49:50,113
♪ Yippy-ay-ay ♪
on the radio, you know?
(Laughter)
1142
00:49:50,113 --> 00:49:51,739
I called my cousin,
I said, "Yo, man,
1143
00:49:51,739 --> 00:49:53,741
you need to send me a tape,"
and that tape circulated
1144
00:49:53,741 --> 00:49:55,493
throughout my whole unit.
1145
00:49:55,493 --> 00:49:58,329
Everybody there was like,
"Yo, my God, this is crazy."
1146
00:49:58,329 --> 00:50:00,456
You know, it was a rough day,
stuff happened,
1147
00:50:00,456 --> 00:50:02,625
people were injured,
killed,
1148
00:50:02,625 --> 00:50:04,544
I could always
just go back to my room
1149
00:50:04,544 --> 00:50:07,505
and play a tape
and return back to my room,
1150
00:50:07,505 --> 00:50:11,259
my kitchen in the Bronx,
and I would escape that.
1151
00:50:11,259 --> 00:50:13,928
You guys were an outlet,
definitely.
1152
00:50:13,928 --> 00:50:16,722
It's like family.
1153
00:50:16,722 --> 00:50:18,474
A lot of people don't deal
with that.
1154
00:50:18,474 --> 00:50:20,810
So when you have something
that can bring you home,
1155
00:50:20,810 --> 00:50:23,020
it's a big thing,
it's a big thing.
1156
00:50:23,020 --> 00:50:25,648
People have pictures,
recordings,
1157
00:50:25,648 --> 00:50:28,151
of their children
or wife or whatever.
1158
00:50:28,151 --> 00:50:30,027
I had a cassette.
1159
00:50:30,027 --> 00:50:32,738
Bobbito: That's why we
would read the letters on air
1160
00:50:32,738 --> 00:50:34,031
from the dudes inside.
1161
00:50:34,031 --> 00:50:35,450
We would constantly be told,
like,
1162
00:50:35,450 --> 00:50:38,202
"Yo, you're helping me
get through
1163
00:50:38,202 --> 00:50:41,330
and keep a piece of sanity,
a piece of outside."
1164
00:50:41,330 --> 00:50:47,129
In 1991, I was involved
in a contract murder.
1165
00:50:47,129 --> 00:50:50,132
And I got sentenced to 15 years
in federal prison.
1166
00:50:50,132 --> 00:50:53,926
They would sell walkmans
with no cassette, just radio.
1167
00:50:53,926 --> 00:50:56,637
So you got the little radio
dial on it.
1168
00:50:56,637 --> 00:51:00,016
During the times I tuned in
to the Stretch and Bobbito Show,
1169
00:51:00,016 --> 00:51:01,976
it provided me
an intimate comfort
1170
00:51:01,976 --> 00:51:05,188
to just venture into myself
to explore
1171
00:51:05,188 --> 00:51:07,315
the ranges of possibility
artistically.
1172
00:51:07,315 --> 00:51:08,733
I would write poetry,
1173
00:51:08,733 --> 00:51:10,693
and this is one of
the poems that I wrote.
1174
00:51:10,693 --> 00:51:12,653
"The diamonds in her eyes
cuts me at the glance.
1175
00:51:12,653 --> 00:51:15,031
Her feminine stance
sets the trance to begin.
1176
00:51:15,031 --> 00:51:17,366
Her skin shines with the feline
type of mesmerizing
1177
00:51:17,366 --> 00:51:19,660
kind of sublime
reflecting within the mind.
1178
00:51:19,660 --> 00:51:21,287
Flashes of her occur
too short to grasp
1179
00:51:21,287 --> 00:51:22,788
and too clear to blur.
1180
00:51:22,788 --> 00:51:24,999
The mixture of her stir
soothes my jagged edges.
1181
00:51:24,999 --> 00:51:27,543
Yes, a whisper coming in clearer
and crisper in wedges
1182
00:51:27,543 --> 00:51:30,421
between memories of
a femininity and lucidity.
1183
00:51:30,421 --> 00:51:32,548
The edges of her peaks
are layered with streaks
1184
00:51:32,548 --> 00:51:35,135
of mystifying mysteries
captivating me.
1185
00:51:35,135 --> 00:51:36,594
Her affluence is tremendous,
1186
00:51:36,594 --> 00:51:39,597
balanced by super-stupid
stpupendous sentiments.
1187
00:51:39,597 --> 00:51:41,141
The flavor of her taste
1188
00:51:41,141 --> 00:51:43,601
is the taste
of the ultimate experience.
1189
00:51:43,601 --> 00:51:48,898
This is a rhyme that I wrote
listening to this radio program.
1190
00:51:48,898 --> 00:51:51,025
(Jazz music playing)
1191
00:52:00,826 --> 00:52:04,205
Fat Joe: I was like
this big-time street guy,
1192
00:52:04,205 --> 00:52:06,791
you know, in the Bronx
and in Harlem,
1193
00:52:06,791 --> 00:52:08,501
and I'm telling everybody
1194
00:52:08,501 --> 00:52:11,337
I'm retiring
from the street business.
1195
00:52:11,337 --> 00:52:13,422
Now you got every drug dealer
coming out of jail
1196
00:52:13,422 --> 00:52:14,840
with an artist.
1197
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,551
I was the first Master P.
1198
00:52:16,551 --> 00:52:18,094
♪ I'd rather be feared
than loved ♪
1199
00:52:18,094 --> 00:52:20,054
♪ Because the fear
lasts longer ♪
1200
00:52:20,054 --> 00:52:22,682
♪ These bitch-ass niggas know we
stronger than these weaklings ♪
1201
00:52:22,682 --> 00:52:24,600
♪ Seeking for respect
that ain't there ♪
1202
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,603
♪ Knuckleheads beware
there's mad tension in the air ♪
1203
00:52:27,603 --> 00:52:29,772
That verse right there
changed my whole life.
1204
00:52:29,772 --> 00:52:31,983
The first time anybody ever
heard pun live
1205
00:52:31,983 --> 00:52:33,401
was here as well.
1206
00:52:33,401 --> 00:52:35,486
♪ So big dog
on the M-I-C ♪
1207
00:52:35,486 --> 00:52:37,363
♪ Represent
for the terror squad ♪
1208
00:52:37,363 --> 00:52:39,282
♪ Off the T-O-P ♪
1209
00:52:39,282 --> 00:52:40,950
Pun: ♪ Brothers are rappin'
like Iraq and soldiers ♪
1210
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:42,743
♪ Actin' like
they crackin' boulders ♪
1211
00:52:42,743 --> 00:52:44,870
♪ Wouldn't pack a cap gun
or attack a blowfish ♪
1212
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:46,706
♪ Always talkin' shit,
players that rather balk ♪
1213
00:52:46,706 --> 00:52:48,416
♪ Than pitch
and often counterfeit ♪
1214
00:52:48,416 --> 00:52:50,668
♪ Kings of New York
on Mr. Walken's dick ♪
1215
00:52:50,668 --> 00:52:53,337
♪ You make me sick to my stomach
you don't really want it ♪
1216
00:52:53,337 --> 00:52:55,131
♪ Riffin' like you sniffin' coke
to scare me ♪
1217
00:52:55,131 --> 00:52:56,632
♪ But you barely blunted ♪
1218
00:52:56,632 --> 00:52:58,342
♪ You really done it now,
you got me mad ♪
1219
00:52:58,342 --> 00:53:00,136
♪ Boricuas be like,
"Papi's bad," ♪
1220
00:53:00,136 --> 00:53:02,346
♪ Makin fakers caqui
when I'm droppin' math ♪
1221
00:53:02,346 --> 00:53:06,475
(Laughter,
music continues)
1222
00:53:06,475 --> 00:53:08,519
Pun, he was crazy, huh?
Yeah.
1223
00:53:08,519 --> 00:53:10,354
(Fades) ♪ You don't ever wanna
clash again with big dog ♪
1224
00:53:10,354 --> 00:53:12,857
♪ The master hand
will never last ♪
1225
00:53:12,857 --> 00:53:14,650
Every day they come to me
on Twitter
1226
00:53:14,650 --> 00:53:16,819
talking about do I have
a Pun verse
1227
00:53:16,819 --> 00:53:18,238
that no one ever heard?
1228
00:53:18,238 --> 00:53:19,780
By the way, you got one.
1229
00:53:19,780 --> 00:53:22,742
Now I know all Pun versus.
1230
00:53:22,742 --> 00:53:25,786
Yo, my man,
I know all Pun versus.
1231
00:53:25,786 --> 00:53:27,455
I listened to that shit
right there,
1232
00:53:27,455 --> 00:53:29,081
I was like what the fuck--
I didn't even know
1233
00:53:29,081 --> 00:53:31,000
I was in the background,
I was like, "Yo,
1234
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,794
I never even heard this shit.
This nigga's killing it."
1235
00:53:33,794 --> 00:53:37,299
In Miami, they got this festival
they call Calle Ocho
1236
00:53:37,299 --> 00:53:39,675
I hear this little kid
like four years old,
1237
00:53:39,675 --> 00:53:42,053
and some people
are selling t-shirts.
1238
00:53:42,053 --> 00:53:44,264
And the little kid
is tapping his father,
1239
00:53:44,264 --> 00:53:48,310
he says, "Papi, papi
that's the legend.
1240
00:53:48,310 --> 00:53:51,771
That's the legend,"
and I'm looking,
1241
00:53:51,771 --> 00:53:54,815
and he's pointing
at a fucking Pun shirt.
1242
00:53:54,815 --> 00:53:56,901
I was just like fucked up.
1243
00:53:56,901 --> 00:53:59,487
I was like, yo,
that shit crazy, man.
1244
00:53:59,487 --> 00:54:01,364
He's a legend, man.
He started here.
1245
00:54:04,367 --> 00:54:07,244
Taste:
That shit is two hours old
for the Bobbito show only.
1246
00:54:07,244 --> 00:54:10,539
What's up?
Yo, the Bobbito show, though?
1247
00:54:10,539 --> 00:54:12,541
I mean Stretch Armstrong
and Bobbito.
1248
00:54:12,541 --> 00:54:15,711
Yo, what's your name?
Stretch? Nah.
1249
00:54:15,711 --> 00:54:18,255
It was Stretch's show,
1250
00:54:18,255 --> 00:54:21,676
but people kept calling it
"The Bobbito Show."
1251
00:54:21,676 --> 00:54:26,430
I wanna say what's up
to my man Bobbito.
1252
00:54:26,430 --> 00:54:27,765
He's up in here.
1253
00:54:27,765 --> 00:54:30,017
So unless you live
under a rock,
1254
00:54:30,017 --> 00:54:32,353
you know what I'm saying,
you've seen or heard
1255
00:54:32,353 --> 00:54:35,315
the flavor from my man Bobbito
you know what I'm saying,
1256
00:54:35,315 --> 00:54:38,025
and his DJ Stretch Armstrong
on the radio.
1257
00:54:38,025 --> 00:54:40,111
Stretch: Naturally,
this didn't sit well with me.
1258
00:54:40,111 --> 00:54:42,488
If neither of us is getting
any recognition, that's fine.
1259
00:54:42,488 --> 00:54:44,448
But if props
are being handed out,
1260
00:54:44,448 --> 00:54:46,117
I want some of them.
1261
00:54:46,117 --> 00:54:48,994
We became "The Stretch Armstrong
Babbito show,"
1262
00:54:48,994 --> 00:54:50,663
and then about six months
after that,
1263
00:54:50,663 --> 00:54:53,124
it became "The Stretch Armstrong
Show Hosted by Bobbito"
1264
00:54:53,124 --> 00:54:54,959
'cause there
was a lot of confusion.
1265
00:54:54,959 --> 00:54:58,713
This is "The Stretch Armstrong
Show," my name is Bobbito-o!
1266
00:54:58,713 --> 00:55:01,257
It's definitely our show,
but he gets top billing.
1267
00:55:01,257 --> 00:55:04,468
In hip-hop, the DJ is the most
important component.
1268
00:55:04,468 --> 00:55:08,139
(Record scratching)
1269
00:55:08,139 --> 00:55:11,392
Yo, awe were like these dope
DJs,
practice every day
1270
00:55:11,392 --> 00:55:13,185
really innovating
the whole style
1271
00:55:13,185 --> 00:55:15,229
of making music with turntables
1272
00:55:15,229 --> 00:55:17,064
as opposed
to just playing a song,
1273
00:55:17,064 --> 00:55:20,484
we were in this really
small subculture
1274
00:55:20,484 --> 00:55:22,737
of DJ nerds that knew
about us,
1275
00:55:22,737 --> 00:55:24,947
but the rest of New York
really didn't know.
1276
00:55:24,947 --> 00:55:27,032
(Records scratching)
1277
00:55:27,032 --> 00:55:29,243
(Crowd shouts)
1278
00:55:37,710 --> 00:55:41,297
(Crowd shouts)
1279
00:55:41,297 --> 00:55:43,215
( Cheers and applause )
1280
00:55:46,218 --> 00:55:48,471
So we get to WKCR,
we walking in,
1281
00:55:48,471 --> 00:55:51,223
and it was just dope because
it's like "I'm here, yo."
1282
00:55:51,223 --> 00:55:54,477
I've been listening to the show
every Thursday religiously,
1283
00:55:54,477 --> 00:55:56,812
and now I'm not home listening.
1284
00:55:56,812 --> 00:55:59,607
Like, I'm here at the show
1285
00:55:59,607 --> 00:56:01,692
and someone's
gonna listen to me,
1286
00:56:01,692 --> 00:56:03,903
and someone's like
with their cassette tape
1287
00:56:03,903 --> 00:56:06,113
about to press record and play.
1288
00:56:06,113 --> 00:56:07,823
And it was
just the illest feeling.
1289
00:56:07,823 --> 00:56:10,201
We were just so ready
to get on the turntables
1290
00:56:10,201 --> 00:56:12,453
and just get busy.
1291
00:56:12,453 --> 00:56:15,080
(Records scratching)
1292
00:56:39,104 --> 00:56:42,483
(All shouting and cheering)
1293
00:56:42,483 --> 00:56:45,569
These were cassette tapes
that were being recorded,
1294
00:56:45,569 --> 00:56:48,614
so someone in New York
that had a friend in L.A.
1295
00:56:48,614 --> 00:56:50,741
Was dubbing it, mailing it.
1296
00:56:50,741 --> 00:56:52,910
Talib: Those tapes,
analog tapes,
1297
00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:54,745
made it all over the world.
1298
00:56:54,745 --> 00:56:57,414
Somebody in Sweden or Amsterdam
or Japan could tell you about
1299
00:56:57,414 --> 00:56:59,416
something that happened
on Stretch and Bob last week.
1300
00:56:59,416 --> 00:57:01,585
It was like you guys created
your own Internet
1301
00:57:01,585 --> 00:57:03,212
before there was one.
1302
00:57:03,212 --> 00:57:06,715
Rob: We went from there
to like touring the world
1303
00:57:06,715 --> 00:57:10,928
working with groups
like Aerosmith, Linkin Park,
1304
00:57:10,928 --> 00:57:14,265
appearing in GAP commercials,
and it's just so ill
1305
00:57:14,265 --> 00:57:17,017
when you think about
just our humble beginnings
1306
00:57:17,017 --> 00:57:20,437
and how for us,
being on the radio
1307
00:57:20,437 --> 00:57:22,857
was like the end all,
be all to, like, exposure.
1308
00:57:26,819 --> 00:57:29,405
I had a kid call up one night
1309
00:57:29,405 --> 00:57:31,407
and tell me
that he shot somebody.
1310
00:57:31,407 --> 00:57:34,827
I picked up the phone,
and he was like,
1311
00:57:34,827 --> 00:57:36,871
"Yo," like, "What do I do?"
1312
00:57:36,871 --> 00:57:38,622
And I talked him through it.
1313
00:57:38,622 --> 00:57:41,375
There was another letter
that I received
1314
00:57:41,375 --> 00:57:44,003
one time from New Jersey
where the kid was like,
1315
00:57:44,003 --> 00:57:46,589
"Yo, I'm Puerto Rican.
1316
00:57:46,589 --> 00:57:51,343
There's no one in my town
that's graduated from college.
1317
00:57:51,343 --> 00:57:52,928
I really look up to you.
1318
00:57:52,928 --> 00:57:55,347
You mentioned on the air
that you play basketball.
1319
00:57:55,347 --> 00:57:57,308
You graduated from Wesleyan.
1320
00:57:57,308 --> 00:57:58,767
You don't smoke.
You don't drink."
1321
00:57:58,767 --> 00:58:02,438
When he wrote that,
I was like, oh, snap, like,
1322
00:58:02,438 --> 00:58:04,440
there's a little bit deeper
responsibility
1323
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,317
to being a public figure now.
1324
00:58:06,317 --> 00:58:09,862
We're creating a platform
to change people's lives.
1325
00:58:09,862 --> 00:58:12,156
I'm trying not to suck
y'all off or nothing right now,
1326
00:58:12,156 --> 00:58:14,533
but motherfuckers, really,
you know, we, like,
1327
00:58:14,533 --> 00:58:17,494
really respected and idolized
what y'all were doing
1328
00:58:17,494 --> 00:58:19,496
because we used to sit
on the west coast
1329
00:58:19,496 --> 00:58:21,415
scratching our heads like,
"What are these guys doing?
1330
00:58:21,415 --> 00:58:23,500
Are we doing
what we're doing correctly?"
1331
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:26,545
I say it helped inspire up
in many ways
1332
00:58:26,545 --> 00:58:29,381
just to be brave and not
be afraid to play artists
1333
00:58:29,381 --> 00:58:32,468
who you know probably
are only gonna appeal
1334
00:58:32,468 --> 00:58:34,595
to, like, 50 people,
but they're dope.
1335
00:58:34,595 --> 00:58:36,221
So dope should be heard.
1336
00:58:36,221 --> 00:58:37,848
Bobbito:
Introduce yourself, yo.
1337
00:58:37,848 --> 00:58:40,935
Nas: Yo, this is the big
motherfuckin Illmatic nas.
1338
00:58:40,935 --> 00:58:42,937
Know what I mean?
1339
00:58:42,937 --> 00:58:45,731
Yeah, the album getting ready
to come out in January.
1340
00:58:45,731 --> 00:58:48,859
The name of that is "Illmatic,"
know what I'm saying?
1341
00:58:48,859 --> 00:58:52,404
Wow, I'm going to Bobbito
Stretch Armstrong Show.
1342
00:58:52,404 --> 00:58:54,031
I made it.
1343
00:58:54,031 --> 00:58:56,033
By far, "Illmatic"
was the most anticipated
1344
00:58:56,033 --> 00:58:58,786
album of the decade.
1345
00:58:58,786 --> 00:59:01,664
Cats were fiending
for the release.
1346
00:59:01,664 --> 00:59:03,583
♪ The smooth criminal
on beat breaks ♪
1347
00:59:03,583 --> 00:59:06,418
♪ Never put me in your box
if your shit eats tapes ♪
1348
00:59:06,418 --> 00:59:09,254
You wound up playing
like the world premiere
1349
00:59:09,254 --> 00:59:11,173
of that night.
1350
00:59:11,173 --> 00:59:13,676
You world premiered--
you remember what track?
1351
00:59:13,676 --> 00:59:15,344
I don't remember shit.
1352
00:59:15,344 --> 00:59:18,263
♪ Nas will rock well
it ain't hard to tell ♪
1353
00:59:18,263 --> 00:59:20,265
(Repeating)
♪ Nas Nas Nas... ♪
1354
00:59:27,940 --> 00:59:29,566
At that point in time,
1355
00:59:29,566 --> 00:59:32,403
your show was
the most important show.
1356
00:59:32,403 --> 00:59:33,988
In the world.
1357
00:59:33,988 --> 00:59:37,700
I wrote a lot of my first album
listening to your show.
1358
00:59:37,700 --> 00:59:39,868
And when you would play a beat,
I would dub it.
1359
00:59:39,868 --> 00:59:42,079
I remember being
behind this board
1360
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:44,456
and Stretch
a little reluctantly
1361
00:59:44,456 --> 00:59:46,875
passing the headphones to Nas
being like, "Yo,
1362
00:59:46,875 --> 00:59:49,169
what do you think of this beat
to rhyme over?"
1363
00:59:49,169 --> 00:59:50,963
I don't even think you told him
it was your beat.
1364
00:59:50,963 --> 00:59:54,425
No, I didn't, of course not.
Why would I do that?
1365
00:59:54,425 --> 00:59:56,802
"Yo, yo, yo,
it's my beat, man."
1366
00:59:56,802 --> 00:59:59,346
But then nas was like
bobbing his head.
1367
00:59:59,346 --> 01:00:01,641
He was like, "Yeah,
I'll rhyme over that."
1368
01:00:01,641 --> 01:00:03,475
And I remember
your face lit up.
1369
01:00:03,475 --> 01:00:05,102
You were like--
that's when you were like,
1370
01:00:05,102 --> 01:00:08,147
"That's my beat."
(Laughter)
1371
01:00:08,147 --> 01:00:09,565
Nas:
♪ How should I start this? ♪
1372
01:00:09,565 --> 01:00:11,734
What beat is this?
1373
01:00:11,734 --> 01:00:15,612
♪ To send, grab the microphone,
and my rhymes'll win ♪
1374
01:00:15,612 --> 01:00:18,032
♪ Wheel of fortune
spin around ♪
1375
01:00:18,032 --> 01:00:20,075
♪ Check it out,
I'm not a rap clown ♪
1376
01:00:20,075 --> 01:00:23,620
♪ Get smacked down by the
fuckin' 4-pound in your dome ♪
1377
01:00:23,620 --> 01:00:25,665
♪ Hit you with
the nick-plate chrome ♪
1378
01:00:25,665 --> 01:00:28,000
♪ Queensbridge,
that's my motherfuckin' home ♪
1379
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,544
♪ Off the top of my head,
yo, I'm a blunt head ♪
1380
01:00:30,544 --> 01:00:32,629
♪ Police,
police want a nigga dead ♪
1381
01:00:32,629 --> 01:00:34,965
There was no down the road.
1382
01:00:34,965 --> 01:00:38,510
There was no lanes really open
for this next generation.
1383
01:00:38,510 --> 01:00:40,804
It wasn't promised
that I would make it.
1384
01:00:40,804 --> 01:00:44,266
I see you guys as like
the ones that just like
1385
01:00:44,266 --> 01:00:47,102
threw me out there, like,
"Here, let's go."
1386
01:00:47,102 --> 01:00:49,313
♪ Check it out now,
one for the money ♪
1387
01:00:49,313 --> 01:00:50,981
♪ Two for pussy
and foreign cars ♪
1388
01:00:50,981 --> 01:00:53,484
♪ Three for alizé niggaz
deceased or behind bars ♪
1389
01:00:53,484 --> 01:00:55,069
♪ I rap divine gods
check the prognosis ♪
1390
01:00:55,069 --> 01:00:56,653
♪ Is it real or showbiz? ♪
1391
01:00:56,653 --> 01:00:58,698
♪ My window faces shootouts,
drug overdoses ♪
1392
01:00:58,698 --> 01:01:00,616
♪ Live amongst no roses,
only the drama ♪
1393
01:01:00,616 --> 01:01:02,367
♪ For real a nickel-plate
is my fate ♪
1394
01:01:02,367 --> 01:01:04,495
♪ My medicine is the
ganja here's my basis ♪
1395
01:01:04,495 --> 01:01:06,413
♪ My razor embraces
many faces ♪
1396
01:01:06,413 --> 01:01:08,916
♪ Your telephone blowin' black
stitches or fat shoelaces ♪
1397
01:01:08,916 --> 01:01:11,752
♪ Peoples are petro ♪
♪ dramatic automatic
fo'-fo' ♪
1398
01:01:11,752 --> 01:01:14,421
♪ I let blow and back down po-po
when I'm vexed so ♪
1399
01:01:14,421 --> 01:01:16,215
♪ My pen taps the paper
then my brain's blank ♪
1400
01:01:16,215 --> 01:01:17,883
♪ I see dark streets ♪
1401
01:01:17,883 --> 01:01:19,719
♪ Hustlin' brothers
who keep the same rank ♪
1402
01:01:19,719 --> 01:01:21,887
♪ Pumpin' for something,
some will prosper, some fail ♪
1403
01:01:21,887 --> 01:01:23,765
♪ Judges hangin' niggas,
uncorrect bails ♪
1404
01:01:23,765 --> 01:01:25,808
♪ For direct sales
my intellect prevails ♪
1405
01:01:25,808 --> 01:01:27,684
♪ From a hangin' cross
with nails ♪
1406
01:01:27,684 --> 01:01:30,270
♪ I reinforce the frail,
with lyrics that's real ♪
1407
01:01:30,270 --> 01:01:31,563
♪ Word to Christ,
the disciple of streets ♪
1408
01:01:31,563 --> 01:01:33,398
♪ Trifle on beats
but chill ♪
1409
01:01:33,398 --> 01:01:36,360
♪ Bless the microphone
and say peace ♪
1410
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:37,820
You still make beats?
1411
01:01:37,820 --> 01:01:39,488
(Stretch laughs)
1412
01:01:39,488 --> 01:01:43,826
So why don't you show us
some of your tapes?
1413
01:01:43,826 --> 01:01:47,371
Explain, uh--
show us what's in your box.
1414
01:01:47,371 --> 01:01:49,581
This is the night Big L
and Jay Z went up,
1415
01:01:49,581 --> 01:01:53,627
and it's actually both sides
because the tape ended
1416
01:01:53,627 --> 01:01:55,254
in the middle of one
of Big L's verses,
1417
01:01:55,254 --> 01:01:57,089
then had to flip the tape over.
1418
01:01:57,089 --> 01:02:01,135
Big L: Check it out.
Check it out.
Bobbito: Yeah.
1419
01:02:01,135 --> 01:02:02,804
Uh-oh.
1420
01:02:02,804 --> 01:02:04,638
You wanna put your man on, too?
1421
01:02:04,638 --> 01:02:06,348
You can do it together.
1422
01:02:06,348 --> 01:02:08,392
Big L: I'm gonna set it off
like this, check it out.
1423
01:02:08,392 --> 01:02:10,894
♪ Yo, check it,
yo I got slugs for snitches... ♪
1424
01:02:10,894 --> 01:02:12,813
I listened to this
the other day.
1425
01:02:12,813 --> 01:02:15,899
♪ Putting thugs in ditches
when my trigger finger itches ♪
1426
01:02:15,899 --> 01:02:17,651
♪ I got a rep
that make police jet ♪
1427
01:02:17,651 --> 01:02:20,279
♪ Known to get a priest wet
I never beg for pussy ♪
1428
01:02:20,279 --> 01:02:23,323
♪ Like Keith sweat
is Big L slow, hell no ♪
1429
01:02:23,323 --> 01:02:24,867
♪ Bitches get fucked
on a roof ♪
1430
01:02:24,867 --> 01:02:26,702
♪ When I ain't got
no hotel dough ♪
1431
01:02:26,702 --> 01:02:28,245
♪ I'm known
for yokin' jacks ♪
1432
01:02:28,245 --> 01:02:29,872
♪ And beating 'em
with smoking gats ♪
1433
01:02:29,872 --> 01:02:31,833
♪ Leaving token blacks
with broken backs ♪
1434
01:02:31,833 --> 01:02:33,876
♪ And open caps
so with that bullshit ♪
1435
01:02:33,876 --> 01:02:35,919
♪ Step to the rear, son,
the last thing you want ♪
1436
01:02:35,919 --> 01:02:37,921
♪ With Big L is a fair one ♪
1437
01:02:37,921 --> 01:02:40,800
♪ 'Cause in a street brawl
I strike men like lightning ♪
1438
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,301
♪ You seen what happened
in my last fight, friend ♪
1439
01:02:42,301 --> 01:02:43,845
♪ A'ight then ♪
♪ A'ight then ♪
1440
01:02:43,845 --> 01:02:45,721
♪ All through high school
I had braids ♪
1441
01:02:45,721 --> 01:02:47,931
♪ I kept mad blades
stabbing teachers to death ♪
1442
01:02:47,931 --> 01:02:49,433
♪ That gave me bad grades ♪
1443
01:02:49,433 --> 01:02:51,101
♪ I cook the mic like
a beef steak ♪
1444
01:02:51,101 --> 01:02:52,936
♪ 'Cause my technique's great ♪
1445
01:02:52,936 --> 01:02:54,730
♪ And I'm the nigga police
hate in each state ♪
1446
01:02:54,730 --> 01:02:56,273
♪ 'Cause I'm the
neighborhood lamper ♪
1447
01:02:56,273 --> 01:02:58,358
♪ Punk brother vamper
fuck around ♪
1448
01:02:58,358 --> 01:03:00,527
♪ You'll find my silk boxers
in your mother's hamper ♪
1449
01:03:00,527 --> 01:03:03,030
♪ Cops drop when my glock
makes a pow sound ♪
1450
01:03:03,030 --> 01:03:05,115
♪ I'm from a wild town
you know my style clown ♪
1451
01:03:05,115 --> 01:03:07,701
♪ So bow down... ♪
I was playing this
the other day.
1452
01:03:07,701 --> 01:03:09,328
Turn on the mega bass.
1453
01:03:09,328 --> 01:03:11,580
♪ I got my man Jay-Z here ♪
1454
01:03:11,580 --> 01:03:14,082
♪ Brothers can beg and borrow,
still feel sorrow ♪
1455
01:03:14,082 --> 01:03:16,210
♪ When Jay, Z like Zorro,
get in that ass ♪
1456
01:03:16,210 --> 01:03:17,920
♪ Better luck tomorrow,
I'm too much nigga ♪
1457
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,713
♪ So never should you rush ♪
1458
01:03:19,713 --> 01:03:22,674
♪ You need to slow down
or get your ass tore down ♪
1459
01:03:22,674 --> 01:03:24,635
♪ Check it out,
I'm too cocky to stop me ♪
1460
01:03:24,635 --> 01:03:26,261
♪ You gotta kill me
and when I'm gone ♪
1461
01:03:26,261 --> 01:03:28,180
♪ You can still feel me,
on the real, B... ♪
1462
01:03:28,180 --> 01:03:30,140
That's a pretty good pocket,
Jay Z.
1463
01:03:30,140 --> 01:03:33,101
♪ Even if they won't let me
in heaven, I raise hell ♪
1464
01:03:33,101 --> 01:03:34,561
♪ Till it's heaven recognize ♪
1465
01:03:34,561 --> 01:03:36,647
♪ The black cat
with the nine lives ♪
1466
01:03:36,647 --> 01:03:39,399
♪ Get up off me nigga,
it's bad luck to cross me ♪
1467
01:03:39,399 --> 01:03:42,027
♪ I'm popping crystal,
shooting game like missiles ♪
1468
01:03:42,027 --> 01:03:44,821
♪ As projected all ho's
affected by this style ♪
1469
01:03:44,821 --> 01:03:47,407
♪ I mack like Goldie,
go back like the oldie ♪
1470
01:03:47,407 --> 01:03:50,494
♪ But the goody pulling
R&B bitches wearing hoodies ♪
1471
01:03:50,494 --> 01:03:52,287
♪ They don't be knowin'
the way I be flowing ♪
1472
01:03:52,287 --> 01:03:53,956
♪ When I be going ♪
1473
01:03:53,956 --> 01:03:56,250
♪ I be running the track
like Jesse Owens ♪
1474
01:03:56,250 --> 01:03:58,669
♪ Enticing when slicing through
tracks you're screaming ♪
1475
01:03:58,669 --> 01:04:01,463
♪ Jesus Christ he's back
and God knows he can rap ♪
1476
01:04:01,463 --> 01:04:04,383
♪ Me and l put rhythm on the map
so give him his dap and me ♪
1477
01:04:04,383 --> 01:04:05,759
♪ I just take mine,
gimme those, ♪
1478
01:04:05,759 --> 01:04:07,636
♪ Gimme this, gimme that,
fuck that ♪
1479
01:04:07,636 --> 01:04:09,930
You'll never get this verse
but on Stretch and Bobbito.
1480
01:04:09,930 --> 01:04:13,725
I raise hell till it's heaven.
Pretty good verses.
1481
01:04:13,725 --> 01:04:15,852
(Laughter)
1482
01:04:15,852 --> 01:04:18,230
You know, I didn't realize
that that was a thing
1483
01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:20,482
until, like,
people kept bringing it up
1484
01:04:20,482 --> 01:04:21,775
and, like,
talking about it,
1485
01:04:21,775 --> 01:04:24,236
and I was like,
yeah, the Big L thing.
1486
01:04:24,236 --> 01:04:26,321
It's like, no,
the Big L thing--
1487
01:04:26,321 --> 01:04:27,948
which I didn't even realize
was happening
1488
01:04:27,948 --> 01:04:30,993
till years later
we were in one of those moments
1489
01:04:30,993 --> 01:04:33,954
that people would talk about
in hip-hop lore.
1490
01:04:33,954 --> 01:04:37,541
I was just happy about,
you know, I'm on the radio.
1491
01:04:37,541 --> 01:04:40,210
The fact that you still got
these tapes is fantastic, man.
1492
01:04:40,210 --> 01:04:41,670
Where do you keep 'em?
1493
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:44,506
- Nah, I got 'em in--
- Just in your bag?
1494
01:04:44,506 --> 01:04:49,469
Bobbito: Right here on WKCR
89.9 FM in Nueva York.
1495
01:04:49,469 --> 01:04:52,014
And we got my man Ease
and Case 2.
1496
01:04:52,014 --> 01:04:54,099
- Yo, yo!
- Yo, yo! Yo, Ease!
1497
01:04:54,099 --> 01:04:55,809
Yo, you know
I'm chilling, baby!
1498
01:04:55,809 --> 01:04:57,144
- No, no, you're not "cheeling."
- Are you "cheeling"?
1499
01:04:57,144 --> 01:05:00,022
- I'm "cheeling."
- "Cheeling."
1500
01:05:00,022 --> 01:05:02,190
I'm "cheeling."
Going wild up in here.
1501
01:05:02,190 --> 01:05:04,359
He's like chilling on ice.
1502
01:05:04,359 --> 01:05:06,653
Do you have the vicious style,
homeboy?
1503
01:05:06,653 --> 01:05:08,864
I have the best.
That's more than the vicious.
1504
01:05:08,864 --> 01:05:11,951
I'm the super-duper nutritious.
Of what you say, the vicious.
1505
01:05:11,951 --> 01:05:14,828
There is nothing better
than my deli-icious.
1506
01:05:14,828 --> 01:05:17,873
Your deli-icious.
That's right,
super deli-icious.
1507
01:05:17,873 --> 01:05:19,458
Without the tuna fish.
1508
01:05:19,458 --> 01:05:22,127
I appreciate you
coming through.
1509
01:05:22,127 --> 01:05:24,004
For you, you're my man,
come on, Bobbito.
1510
01:05:24,004 --> 01:05:26,256
You know how we get down.
1511
01:05:26,256 --> 01:05:29,009
Back in the days when I was up
north and on the island.
1512
01:05:29,009 --> 01:05:31,303
I used to y'all gettin' illy
on the station,
1513
01:05:31,303 --> 01:05:33,722
so I'd say one day I'd be home,
in the free cypher,
1514
01:05:33,722 --> 01:05:35,307
I'd get my turn.
1515
01:05:35,307 --> 01:05:38,393
I am the creator of graf.
Know what I'm saying?
1516
01:05:38,393 --> 01:05:40,645
My brother Phase 2 was one
of the first that did it
1517
01:05:40,645 --> 01:05:44,399
from back in the '70s,
'71 and '72.
1518
01:05:44,399 --> 01:05:46,318
And from what he elevated
into one thing,
1519
01:05:46,318 --> 01:05:48,362
I elevated into another,
and I made it
1520
01:05:48,362 --> 01:05:50,072
to what it's modernly
known as today.
1521
01:05:50,072 --> 01:05:52,699
I want people to know
when I made the trademark
1522
01:05:52,699 --> 01:05:57,079
King of Style back in 1976,
I am that true person.
1523
01:05:57,079 --> 01:05:59,498
- King of Style, not Style--
- King of what?
1524
01:05:59,498 --> 01:06:02,501
King of Style.
You already know.
1525
01:06:02,501 --> 01:06:04,169
Louis 167: And I'd roll around
with some quarters,
1526
01:06:04,169 --> 01:06:05,837
yo, pull over,
I'm on the pay phone,
1527
01:06:05,837 --> 01:06:07,714
like, we're bombing
in Brooklyn right now.
1528
01:06:07,714 --> 01:06:09,424
Give us a shout-out.
1529
01:06:09,424 --> 01:06:11,510
Bobbito: Also want to give
a shout-out to my man Louis 167.
1530
01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:15,138
He wants to give a cookie puss
shout-out to Stretch Armstrong.
1531
01:06:15,138 --> 01:06:18,433
Being able to call up and
actually talk to someone,
1532
01:06:18,433 --> 01:06:20,727
you know, get that shout-out,
it was real.
1533
01:06:20,727 --> 01:06:23,480
Riggs: At the source, my job
was to document the culture.
1534
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,148
You guys were the Bible.
1535
01:06:25,148 --> 01:06:26,983
Raekwon: When it came to knowing
the right sneakers,
1536
01:06:26,983 --> 01:06:29,444
going to the right spots,
the right jams,
1537
01:06:29,444 --> 01:06:33,115
the latest news,
we had to have disciples
1538
01:06:33,115 --> 01:06:35,700
that really knew hip-hop
talk about that,
1539
01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:37,202
and y'all
was the face of that.
1540
01:06:37,202 --> 01:06:39,121
(Indistinct conversations)
1541
01:06:42,541 --> 01:06:44,251
Bobbito:
We gotta be here in peace.
1542
01:06:44,251 --> 01:06:46,795
The last time we did this,
everything was straight.
1543
01:06:46,795 --> 01:06:49,131
Let's all be in this together
and cool out, man.
1544
01:06:49,131 --> 01:06:52,217
Yo, Stretch, cut the music!
Yo, yo, chill, man, what's up?
1545
01:06:52,217 --> 01:06:53,927
(Woman screams)
1546
01:06:53,927 --> 01:06:57,848
Security to the back
of the club, please!
1547
01:06:57,848 --> 01:07:01,268
Pharoahe Monch: That's hip-hop,
that air and that energy.
1548
01:07:01,268 --> 01:07:03,687
It is kind of dangerous
to go to a hip-hop show,
1549
01:07:03,687 --> 01:07:06,314
and it was also,
"Don't step on my sneakers."
1550
01:07:06,314 --> 01:07:07,774
It was danger.
1551
01:07:07,774 --> 01:07:10,944
It was a violent thing
to it as well.
1552
01:07:10,944 --> 01:07:12,571
A certain type of vibe
or song,
1553
01:07:12,571 --> 01:07:14,573
could set something off.
1554
01:07:14,573 --> 01:07:17,325
My life has been threatened
by artists, you know,
1555
01:07:17,325 --> 01:07:19,161
that I'll leave unnamed.
1556
01:07:19,161 --> 01:07:21,830
Stretch has been stepped
to a couple of times.
1557
01:07:21,830 --> 01:07:24,124
You know, so even
by the hip-hop community,
1558
01:07:24,124 --> 01:07:26,585
you know, we've had
our little squabbles,
1559
01:07:26,585 --> 01:07:33,425
you know, which, um, I tend
not to really, uh, dwell upon.
1560
01:07:33,425 --> 01:07:36,887
It's negativity, there's no need
to speak on it
1561
01:07:36,887 --> 01:07:38,346
um...
1562
01:07:38,346 --> 01:07:40,557
(Farts)
1563
01:07:40,557 --> 01:07:43,268
B-Real:
When we won the Billboard
Awards, we were surprised.
1564
01:07:43,268 --> 01:07:45,770
We were stoked about it.
We didn't expect it.
1565
01:07:45,770 --> 01:07:47,772
You stepped up to the mic,
and you made the point
1566
01:07:47,772 --> 01:07:51,276
of saying, "I just wanna
say right now
1567
01:07:51,276 --> 01:07:54,529
on national TV that Cypress Hill
would not have happened
1568
01:07:54,529 --> 01:07:58,325
if it wasn't for New York DJs
Funkmaster Flex,
1569
01:07:58,325 --> 01:08:00,327
Stretch Armstrong,
and Kid Capris."
1570
01:08:00,327 --> 01:08:02,204
When I heard about that
after the fact,
1571
01:08:02,204 --> 01:08:04,998
I was dancing around the
apartment for like three days.
1572
01:08:04,998 --> 01:08:08,752
Fat Joe:
Ar-r-r-senio hall!
1573
01:08:08,752 --> 01:08:14,132
(Lively music playing)
1574
01:08:14,132 --> 01:08:17,344
We went to Arsenio Hall,
and that's at his prime.
1575
01:08:17,344 --> 01:08:19,763
Like, that was
when he was poppin'.
1576
01:08:19,763 --> 01:08:22,766
I was the musical guest,
the sit-in DJ for the week.
1577
01:08:22,766 --> 01:08:24,184
I knew you were there.
1578
01:08:24,184 --> 01:08:26,061
Backstage, I see Arsenio.
1579
01:08:26,061 --> 01:08:29,189
I was like, yo, Fat Joe,
new rapper from the Bronx,
1580
01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:30,899
he's on Relativity,
he's in the audience.
1581
01:08:30,899 --> 01:08:32,776
Just want to let you know,
you wanna shout him out.
1582
01:08:32,776 --> 01:08:34,486
I didn't know
he was gonna bring you out.
1583
01:08:34,486 --> 01:08:36,321
This is Stretch Armstrong.
Anybody from New York?
1584
01:08:36,321 --> 01:08:39,241
( Cheers and applause )
Yeah. Yeah.
1585
01:08:42,161 --> 01:08:45,914
Yo, that's, uh, that's Fat Joe.
What's up, man?
1586
01:08:45,914 --> 01:08:48,375
( Cheers and applause )
What's up?
1587
01:08:48,375 --> 01:08:51,211
Shout out, Fat Joe!
Come on, give it up!
1588
01:08:51,211 --> 01:08:52,671
What's up?
1589
01:08:52,671 --> 01:08:53,880
Arsenio Hall!
1590
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,883
- Yo. Yo. Yo.
- Yo!
1591
01:08:56,883 --> 01:08:59,094
He was like, "We got a guy
in the house, Fat Joe."
1592
01:08:59,094 --> 01:09:00,971
- I'm like, "What the fuck?"
- Yeah.
1593
01:09:00,971 --> 01:09:04,599
I went in the studio audience,
wait on line to see Arsenio.
1594
01:09:04,599 --> 01:09:07,727
As a fan, that was the biggest
shit in the world.
1595
01:09:07,727 --> 01:09:12,190
Forget it, I might have fucking
bust 72 nuts.
1596
01:09:12,190 --> 01:09:14,818
I gotta say what's up to
my main man, Arsenio Hall, man.
1597
01:09:14,818 --> 01:09:16,778
(Laughter and hooting)
1598
01:09:16,778 --> 01:09:18,697
That's my main man.
1599
01:09:18,697 --> 01:09:20,824
Stretch: This the first time
you been up here
1600
01:09:20,824 --> 01:09:22,742
- since we were on the show?
- Yeah, yeah.
(Laughs)
1601
01:09:22,742 --> 01:09:24,661
(Men speaking indistinctly)
1602
01:09:27,163 --> 01:09:29,749
Yo Joe we gonna cut you off
cause we wanna get to...
1603
01:09:29,749 --> 01:09:31,668
♪ New Jack,
steppin' in the area ♪
1604
01:09:31,668 --> 01:09:34,296
♪ Kind of reminds me of Eddie
Murphy, Coming to America ♪
1605
01:09:34,296 --> 01:09:37,507
Rosie: I was perceived to
always be on the cutting edge.
1606
01:09:37,507 --> 01:09:40,219
You know, back in L.A.,
they thought I was a genius.
1607
01:09:40,219 --> 01:09:42,887
And I would tell them, no,
it's Stretch and Bobbito,
1608
01:09:42,887 --> 01:09:44,848
and you guys were just
doing it for fun.
1609
01:09:44,848 --> 01:09:47,058
You know, whether
you were doing for props--
1610
01:09:47,058 --> 01:09:49,477
I know on that radio station
you weren't doing it for money.
1611
01:09:49,477 --> 01:09:53,356
Oh! (Laughs)
1612
01:09:53,356 --> 01:09:55,275
Talk about no budget.
1613
01:09:55,275 --> 01:09:58,111
(Rap music playing,
shouting)
1614
01:10:00,655 --> 01:10:04,534
Bobbito: In 1996, HOT 97
invites us to be on the air.
1615
01:10:04,534 --> 01:10:06,911
That's the number one commercial
radio station in New York.
1616
01:10:06,911 --> 01:10:11,541
Q-Tip: Really wanna congratulate
you guys on going to HOT 97.
1617
01:10:11,541 --> 01:10:14,336
(Laughter)
Bobbito: Thank you.
1618
01:10:14,336 --> 01:10:16,297
(Backbeat playing)
1619
01:10:18,757 --> 01:10:22,303
♪ Stretch Armstrong
12 dawn son let's get it on ♪
1620
01:10:22,303 --> 01:10:24,721
♪ Tobacco Cuban shit
straight from Castro ♪
1621
01:10:24,721 --> 01:10:27,557
♪ E-bliss, glamorous,
move cautious ♪
1622
01:10:27,557 --> 01:10:29,851
♪ Jose Luis puff la in a leaf ♪
1623
01:10:29,851 --> 01:10:32,896
♪ Golden teeth with Bobbito
Cuban nino ♪
1624
01:10:32,896 --> 01:10:35,357
♪ Sunday, same day
as the tunnel day ♪
1625
01:10:35,357 --> 01:10:40,945
I wondered how you would adjust
to having to not curse.
1626
01:10:40,945 --> 01:10:43,573
This is a big company.
It's a different kind of animal.
1627
01:10:43,573 --> 01:10:46,201
Jay Z: Brooklyn, huh.
Marcy, what?
1628
01:10:46,201 --> 01:10:47,786
Represent.
1629
01:10:47,786 --> 01:10:49,871
I'll try not to curse
on this one.
1630
01:10:49,871 --> 01:10:51,332
On the other show,
y'all let me go.
1631
01:10:51,332 --> 01:10:52,832
I ain't gonna lie.
1632
01:10:52,832 --> 01:10:55,001
Bobbito: We got a red light
on this one.
1633
01:10:55,001 --> 01:10:56,836
Oh, this was when
y'all couldn't curse.
1634
01:10:56,836 --> 01:10:59,381
Y'all start blowing up?
(Laughs)
1635
01:10:59,381 --> 01:11:02,217
You're on like big radio now?
Yeah.
1636
01:11:02,217 --> 01:11:03,635
Stretch: I always
had aspired to be
1637
01:11:03,635 --> 01:11:06,429
as recognized a DJ as possible,
and I felt
1638
01:11:06,429 --> 01:11:09,182
if I could get onto HOT 97,
I could champion good music.
1639
01:11:09,182 --> 01:11:11,310
I knew there were new ears.
1640
01:11:11,310 --> 01:11:13,478
Bobbito:
Hot was odd at first
1641
01:11:13,478 --> 01:11:15,772
because there was a lot of
resistance from our audience,
1642
01:11:15,772 --> 01:11:17,732
our die-hard
Thursday night audience
1643
01:11:17,732 --> 01:11:19,901
who were like, yo,
they're our secret.
1644
01:11:19,901 --> 01:11:23,279
I began to see
a possible demise
1645
01:11:23,279 --> 01:11:25,532
because whenever you see
corporations
1646
01:11:25,532 --> 01:11:28,243
get their hands on anything,
they pervert it,
1647
01:11:28,243 --> 01:11:29,786
and this was a perversion.
1648
01:11:29,786 --> 01:11:31,372
Bobbito: The fact that we
were gonna get
1649
01:11:31,372 --> 01:11:33,540
on a bigger platform,
a better time slot,
1650
01:11:33,540 --> 01:11:35,291
it crossed people funny styles.
1651
01:11:35,291 --> 01:11:37,502
When you guys went and moved
over to HOT 97,
1652
01:11:37,502 --> 01:11:40,422
which to me was
the epicenter of evil,
1653
01:11:40,422 --> 01:11:42,048
it broke my heart.
1654
01:11:42,048 --> 01:11:45,260
The first thing I did was
I just wrote this long rant.
1655
01:11:45,260 --> 01:11:48,138
So Stretch and Bob, personally,
I don't think that it's fair
1656
01:11:48,138 --> 01:11:52,100
that all these fucking
guidos and hoodlums
1657
01:11:52,100 --> 01:11:55,103
who think they
are hip-hop heads
1658
01:11:55,103 --> 01:11:57,564
don't know the first thing
regarding the art of DJing
1659
01:11:57,564 --> 01:12:00,401
as well their lack of interest
in hip-hop to such an extent
1660
01:12:00,401 --> 01:12:03,486
that they are too lazy to stay
up until 5:00 am.
1661
01:12:03,486 --> 01:12:05,572
I have nothing against HOT 97
1662
01:12:05,572 --> 01:12:07,741
but something
against your decision.
1663
01:12:07,741 --> 01:12:09,659
I'm shaking my head
in discontent
1664
01:12:09,659 --> 01:12:11,995
of such a corporate whore
such as yourself.
1665
01:12:11,995 --> 01:12:13,788
(Laughter)
1666
01:12:13,788 --> 01:12:16,416
Bobbito: People had this idea
that if you were in hip-hop
1667
01:12:16,416 --> 01:12:20,211
on camera or on radio,
you were making big-time money.
1668
01:12:20,211 --> 01:12:21,755
We got on HOT 97,
1669
01:12:21,755 --> 01:12:24,048
and now we get paid to do
something that we love,
1670
01:12:24,048 --> 01:12:27,010
but even if we weren't,
we would still be here, and--
1671
01:12:27,010 --> 01:12:30,722
plus the paychecks are--
they're not whoppers.
1672
01:12:30,722 --> 01:12:32,807
(Laughter)
1673
01:12:32,807 --> 01:12:36,478
I think people confused
our move to HOT
1674
01:12:36,478 --> 01:12:40,774
as it being part of
the destruction of our show.
1675
01:12:40,774 --> 01:12:44,944
I think the music
from '96 to '98
1676
01:12:44,944 --> 01:12:46,613
played a bigger role in that.
1677
01:12:46,613 --> 01:12:50,158
(Hip-hop music playing)
1678
01:12:50,158 --> 01:12:52,368
We were trying our best
to still present
1679
01:12:52,368 --> 01:12:55,163
the best quality program
for two hours on HOT
1680
01:12:55,163 --> 01:12:58,958
and four hours on KCR,
but we were only good--
1681
01:12:58,958 --> 01:13:01,753
as good as what
the music could be.
1682
01:13:01,753 --> 01:13:04,881
Eminem: Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,
keep the same beat.
1683
01:13:04,881 --> 01:13:07,759
Keep the same beat.
Keep the same beat.
1684
01:13:07,759 --> 01:13:10,429
Yes.
It goes like this, yo.
1685
01:13:10,429 --> 01:13:13,097
♪ My attitude is worse
than NWA's was ♪
1686
01:13:13,097 --> 01:13:14,849
♪ I'll battle you
over stupid shit ♪
1687
01:13:14,849 --> 01:13:16,601
♪ And diss people who ain't
have shit to do with it ♪
1688
01:13:16,601 --> 01:13:18,269
♪ Like Cool J does ♪
1689
01:13:18,269 --> 01:13:20,647
♪ You see me standin'
outside of your building ♪
1690
01:13:20,647 --> 01:13:22,982
♪ Screaming Puffy is good but
Slim Shady is for the children ♪
1691
01:13:22,982 --> 01:13:24,651
♪ I look at my life
in a new light ♪
1692
01:13:24,651 --> 01:13:26,986
♪ Fuck it, give me two mics,
I write songs for me ♪
1693
01:13:26,986 --> 01:13:29,405
♪ You probably
hear me rap half-hearted ♪
1694
01:13:29,405 --> 01:13:31,157
♪ 'Cause I don't
like rap anyway ♪
1695
01:13:31,157 --> 01:13:33,284
♪ I'm just trying to get
my porno career started ♪
1696
01:13:33,284 --> 01:13:35,286
For me to even be able
to go to New York
1697
01:13:35,286 --> 01:13:37,163
was, like,
just mind-blowing.
1698
01:13:37,163 --> 01:13:39,458
Coming from Detroit, we always
have felt like underdogs,
1699
01:13:39,458 --> 01:13:41,876
and Stretch and Bobbito,
that was our dream.
1700
01:13:41,876 --> 01:13:46,339
The fact that we had a chance
to be on it was so crazy.
1701
01:13:46,339 --> 01:13:49,884
Bobbito: Em coincided
with the end of an era
1702
01:13:49,884 --> 01:13:51,427
for college radio,
underground radio
1703
01:13:51,427 --> 01:13:54,138
being like the incubator
and feeder
1704
01:13:54,138 --> 01:13:56,307
to commercial rap success.
1705
01:13:56,307 --> 01:13:59,018
That was certainly
a highlight and a boost
1706
01:13:59,018 --> 01:14:02,772
for not only obviously
my career and everything
1707
01:14:02,772 --> 01:14:04,232
that was happening at that time
1708
01:14:04,232 --> 01:14:05,817
but my self-esteem
and everything.
1709
01:14:05,817 --> 01:14:08,528
You know what I'm saying?
It was like, yo, we--
1710
01:14:08,528 --> 01:14:10,947
it felt like we made it,
like this was it.
1711
01:14:10,947 --> 01:14:13,283
♪ Mama, don't you cry,
your son is too far-gone ♪
1712
01:14:13,283 --> 01:14:15,827
♪ I'm so high I don't even
know what label I'm on ♪
1713
01:14:15,827 --> 01:14:18,497
♪ I'm fucked up, I feel just
like an overworked plumber ♪
1714
01:14:18,497 --> 01:14:21,249
♪ I'm sick of this shit, what's
Jack Kevorkian's phone number? ♪
1715
01:14:21,249 --> 01:14:23,668
(Laughs) What?
1716
01:14:23,668 --> 01:14:26,254
That era was the last
of the underground artists
1717
01:14:26,254 --> 01:14:28,756
that could be commercial 'cause
we were fully prepared.
1718
01:14:28,756 --> 01:14:31,593
I rapped with Big L
and rapped with LL Cool J
1719
01:14:31,593 --> 01:14:34,387
and Busta Rhymes, I rapped
alongside of these guys,
1720
01:14:34,387 --> 01:14:36,306
so it was like sparring
and boxing.
1721
01:14:36,306 --> 01:14:40,810
When I was ready for my closeup,
there was no stopping me.
1722
01:14:40,810 --> 01:14:42,687
With the introduction
of the Internet,
1723
01:14:42,687 --> 01:14:44,147
there is no rite of passage.
1724
01:14:44,147 --> 01:14:46,024
Everybody just throw things
on there,
1725
01:14:46,024 --> 01:14:48,026
and that's why you guys were
so important as gatekeepers.
1726
01:14:48,026 --> 01:14:50,987
There's a curation to that
process that's really missing.
1727
01:14:50,987 --> 01:14:53,364
Talib: If there's no community
for the passing
1728
01:14:53,364 --> 01:14:56,242
and sharing of ideas,
the art is gonna wither and die.
1729
01:14:56,242 --> 01:14:58,579
Stretch: I kind of attribute
the beginning of the end
1730
01:14:58,579 --> 01:15:01,456
of our show to me
losing the passion
1731
01:15:01,456 --> 01:15:03,708
that I had for the music.
1732
01:15:03,708 --> 01:15:06,836
It's hard to be one of
the torch bearers for hip-hop
1733
01:15:06,836 --> 01:15:08,671
and then start to feel like
1734
01:15:08,671 --> 01:15:11,049
you don't even really
love this shit anymore.
1735
01:15:11,049 --> 01:15:13,134
As my commitment
to the show was waning,
1736
01:15:13,134 --> 01:15:16,346
Bobbito filled in that void
by playing more music,
1737
01:15:16,346 --> 01:15:20,266
playing more demos and then
eventually actually DJing.
1738
01:15:20,266 --> 01:15:22,060
Stretch Boogie's
not showed up yet,
1739
01:15:22,060 --> 01:15:24,228
but, uh,
this is Kool Bob Love.
1740
01:15:24,228 --> 01:15:26,105
(Rap music playing)
1741
01:15:30,818 --> 01:15:32,528
Bobbito: There was
a constant, like,
1742
01:15:32,528 --> 01:15:34,573
I don't know what's going on
with this dude.
1743
01:15:34,573 --> 01:15:38,159
I can't completely rely on him.
He started not showing up.
1744
01:15:38,159 --> 01:15:40,995
I'm exhausted.
I'm just not gonna go.
1745
01:15:40,995 --> 01:15:44,165
You take the good with the bad.
He was unreliable.
1746
01:15:44,165 --> 01:15:46,627
The question, how do you tell
your wife you love her
1747
01:15:46,627 --> 01:15:48,211
but you're not in love
with her?
1748
01:15:48,211 --> 01:15:50,213
I loved Stretch in the '90s.
1749
01:15:50,213 --> 01:15:52,090
I didn't hire Bobbito
to do the show.
1750
01:15:52,090 --> 01:15:54,842
We started it together,
and it became this great thing
1751
01:15:54,842 --> 01:15:57,679
that was great because of what
we both brought to the table.
1752
01:15:57,679 --> 01:16:00,765
I didn't like what Bob was
doing, but I couldn't fire him.
1753
01:16:00,765 --> 01:16:03,017
I would intentionally
play records that I knew
1754
01:16:03,017 --> 01:16:05,603
Bob would be annoyed by,
and he would do the same thing.
1755
01:16:05,603 --> 01:16:08,272
We had this music war
on the radio.
1756
01:16:08,272 --> 01:16:11,651
Ladies and gentlemen,
it is thug Thursday.
1757
01:16:11,651 --> 01:16:14,988
Thug Thursdays.
We got Big Gus.
1758
01:16:14,988 --> 01:16:16,406
Thug Thursday.
1759
01:16:16,406 --> 01:16:19,033
Explain what-- what--
1760
01:16:19,033 --> 01:16:21,160
(stammering)
1761
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,872
I understand Bob's beef with
some of the music I was playing
1762
01:16:24,872 --> 01:16:27,208
topically and lyrically,
it was thuggish.
1763
01:16:27,208 --> 01:16:28,876
♪ Eruptin',
plug bustin' ♪
1764
01:16:28,876 --> 01:16:30,920
♪ All fat MC's
that be tryin' to test ♪
1765
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,589
♪ But my Smith and Wes glock
splays rapidly ♪
1766
01:16:33,589 --> 01:16:35,216
♪ Yo,
how rapidly do it spray? ♪
1767
01:16:35,216 --> 01:16:37,051
♪ Ay yo,
it's like rapid-fire glocks ♪
1768
01:16:37,051 --> 01:16:38,678
♪ My shit don't stop ♪
1769
01:16:38,678 --> 01:16:42,598
Lord Sear: Bob was bringing in
like weird lyrical MCs.
1770
01:16:42,598 --> 01:16:44,434
You want to abuse this beat?
1771
01:16:44,434 --> 01:16:48,312
I like how, I like pow.
Out with the freestyle.
1772
01:16:48,312 --> 01:16:51,149
You're off like a whole mile
killing me this killer.
1773
01:16:51,149 --> 01:16:52,984
I'm iller than Barney Fife,
Barney Rubble
1774
01:16:52,984 --> 01:16:54,986
plus Barney Miller,
even that purple motherfucker.
1775
01:16:54,986 --> 01:16:56,821
I ran circles around
a motherfucker.
1776
01:16:56,821 --> 01:16:58,489
Wear out the grass
in your ass--
1777
01:16:58,489 --> 01:17:01,702
(Stammering)
1778
01:17:01,702 --> 01:17:03,244
Yo, yo.
1779
01:17:03,244 --> 01:17:05,913
Lord Sear:
It was just too lyrical, yo.
1780
01:17:05,913 --> 01:17:08,541
Whoa, may I have
an excedrin?
1781
01:17:08,541 --> 01:17:10,543
Stretch: Lord Sear,
he straddled the fence.
1782
01:17:10,543 --> 01:17:13,254
If Bob and I were salty
with each other,
1783
01:17:13,254 --> 01:17:15,548
it really helped
having Sear around.
1784
01:17:15,548 --> 01:17:19,469
I remember I used to make fun
of you, shut the fuck up.
1785
01:17:19,469 --> 01:17:22,972
Shut the f-- and I'd be like,
Bob, I mean,
1786
01:17:22,972 --> 01:17:25,892
listen to the beat,
just listen.
1787
01:17:25,892 --> 01:17:29,937
My lyrical content in fours--
much fours-- of s'mores--
1788
01:17:29,937 --> 01:17:32,523
I'd be like, Bob, listen.
1789
01:17:32,523 --> 01:17:35,902
Stretch: It led to a really
passive-aggressive situation
1790
01:17:35,902 --> 01:17:37,696
I would say
on both of our parts.
1791
01:17:37,696 --> 01:17:40,490
Bobbito: He would come up
but he wouldn't greet me.
1792
01:17:40,490 --> 01:17:42,992
He wouldn't talk to me
until we turned the mic on.
1793
01:17:42,992 --> 01:17:45,912
Stretch: We never addressed what
was going on between us.
1794
01:17:45,912 --> 01:17:47,789
In my head, I'm like, "Yo, B,
how you gonna walk in here,
1795
01:17:47,789 --> 01:17:51,125
you're late," now we get
on the mic, it's fake.
1796
01:17:51,125 --> 01:17:53,712
Like, everything is cool,
but everything isn't cool.
1797
01:17:53,712 --> 01:17:55,755
(Jazz music playing)
1798
01:17:55,755 --> 01:17:58,007
Fat Joe:
It was ground zero for hip-hop,
1799
01:17:58,007 --> 01:18:00,676
so I was like, yo,
how the fuck they gonna leave?
1800
01:18:00,676 --> 01:18:02,095
What happened?
1801
01:18:02,095 --> 01:18:04,514
We were on air here at 97
on a Sunday.
1802
01:18:04,514 --> 01:18:07,141
Stretch:
Dealing with this thick tension
between us in which
1803
01:18:07,141 --> 01:18:09,560
we were really not even treating
each other like friends.
1804
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,354
And at 1:00 am
when our show finished.
1805
01:18:11,354 --> 01:18:13,606
Stretch: Bobbito came up to me
and basically broke the ice
1806
01:18:13,606 --> 01:18:16,400
- and said, yo--
- Bobbito: Doesn't seem like
you wanna do the show
1807
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,195
- with me anymore.
- You're not happy.
I'm not happy.
1808
01:18:19,195 --> 01:18:21,155
Bobbito:
Do the show by yourself.
It's all good.
1809
01:18:21,155 --> 01:18:23,574
You wanna do HOT 97?
You can have it.
1810
01:18:23,574 --> 01:18:27,370
- I ain't trying to hold you back.
- As far as KCR,
we can alternate week to week.
1811
01:18:27,370 --> 01:18:29,539
- It's cool.
- Cool?
1812
01:18:29,539 --> 01:18:31,207
Cool.
1813
01:18:31,207 --> 01:18:34,753
To hear that there
might have been problems
1814
01:18:34,753 --> 01:18:39,549
or tension or issues
and that the show was ending...
1815
01:18:39,549 --> 01:18:40,967
It was heartbreaking.
1816
01:18:40,967 --> 01:18:43,594
There was no check
and balance anymore.
1817
01:18:43,594 --> 01:18:46,806
You know, I was upset with y'all
when y'all left the show
1818
01:18:46,806 --> 01:18:50,935
because you probably felt--
why did y'all leave the show?
1819
01:18:50,935 --> 01:18:52,895
Bobbito: By the mid '90s
1820
01:18:52,895 --> 01:18:55,857
I felt like a lot of stuff
that Stretch was playing,
1821
01:18:55,857 --> 01:18:58,901
it didn't speak to me
1822
01:18:58,901 --> 01:19:00,820
because I didn't care
about the topic
1823
01:19:00,820 --> 01:19:02,572
'cause I was paying attention
to the lyrics.
1824
01:19:02,572 --> 01:19:04,574
I'll just try to be different.
1825
01:19:04,574 --> 01:19:06,784
At least what they were saying
wasn't offensive to me
1826
01:19:06,784 --> 01:19:09,287
and some of the listeners
that I had
1827
01:19:09,287 --> 01:19:11,831
that were more
socially conscious.
1828
01:19:11,831 --> 01:19:13,332
That sucks.
1829
01:19:13,332 --> 01:19:15,376
Stretch: I was always much more
beat-centric.
1830
01:19:15,376 --> 01:19:17,837
The topics and lyrics
was almost secondary to me.
1831
01:19:17,837 --> 01:19:19,630
The best records sonically,
1832
01:19:19,630 --> 01:19:22,508
the ones made by the best
producers were topically
1833
01:19:22,508 --> 01:19:24,927
and lyrically derivative,
antisocial,
1834
01:19:24,927 --> 01:19:28,014
even offensive, they were
a far cry from the records
1835
01:19:28,014 --> 01:19:31,184
that we both loved in '90,
'91, '92.
1836
01:19:31,184 --> 01:19:36,022
By '96, '97, my ability
to fill an entire show
1837
01:19:36,022 --> 01:19:40,193
with music I loved started being
more and more challenging.
1838
01:19:40,193 --> 01:19:42,862
In '98, '99,
I was kind of lost.
1839
01:19:42,862 --> 01:19:44,238
I was completely uninspired,
1840
01:19:44,238 --> 01:19:46,449
could not find music
that I loved.
1841
01:19:46,449 --> 01:19:49,076
That's when I knew for me
it was time to call it quits.
1842
01:19:49,076 --> 01:19:50,995
(Jazz music fades)
1843
01:19:56,792 --> 01:20:00,296
Ramona: I used to have this man
who used to come and do my lawn.
1844
01:20:00,296 --> 01:20:02,757
One day, I received
a box from Bob.
1845
01:20:02,757 --> 01:20:05,009
He seen the name "Bobbito,"
and he says,
1846
01:20:05,009 --> 01:20:08,847
"You-- Bobbito
is sending you stuff?"
1847
01:20:08,847 --> 01:20:12,516
I says, "Yeah, that's my son."
He goes, "no way!
1848
01:20:12,516 --> 01:20:16,520
When I was incarcerated,
that was the light of the day.
1849
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,689
Every Thursday,
we used to stay up
1850
01:20:18,689 --> 01:20:21,067
and listen to Bobbito
and Stretch Armstrong."
1851
01:20:21,067 --> 01:20:24,237
He was so excited.
He got me and hugged me.
1852
01:20:24,237 --> 01:20:28,115
Like, if I was you, and then
he did my lawn for free.
1853
01:20:28,115 --> 01:20:30,368
I went to buy
on Broadway someplace,
1854
01:20:30,368 --> 01:20:32,995
some sneakers, and there
are a couple dudes,
1855
01:20:32,995 --> 01:20:35,831
I'm seeing they're really having
a very difficult time finding
1856
01:20:35,831 --> 01:20:38,251
sneakers because they are
so busy talking about music.
1857
01:20:38,251 --> 01:20:40,962
So I said, "You know
Stretch Armstrong?"
1858
01:20:40,962 --> 01:20:44,340
And said,
"Oh, Stretch, my man."
1859
01:20:44,340 --> 01:20:46,509
They said, "Can't be."
1860
01:20:46,509 --> 01:20:49,971
I said, "No, he's my son."
1861
01:20:49,971 --> 01:20:51,722
And some of them were Polish.
1862
01:20:51,722 --> 01:20:54,893
And then I said, "And Stretch
is partly Polish."
1863
01:20:54,893 --> 01:20:58,604
"Wow, wow," he just like
jumped to the ceiling.
1864
01:20:58,604 --> 01:21:02,441
As parents were so proud
of you guys.
1865
01:21:02,441 --> 01:21:04,485
You know,
I praise you both
1866
01:21:04,485 --> 01:21:07,863
for what you have done
for our community.
1867
01:21:17,958 --> 01:21:20,001
Stretch, I don't think we talked
for a couple years.
1868
01:21:20,001 --> 01:21:23,045
I really don't remember,
but there was like
1869
01:21:23,045 --> 01:21:25,172
a clear, like--
cooling.
1870
01:21:25,172 --> 01:21:28,927
Yeah, a cooling down of the--
(Laughs)
1871
01:21:30,136 --> 01:21:31,679
Bobbito:
Stretchy!
1872
01:21:31,679 --> 01:21:33,556
Boobie!
1873
01:21:33,556 --> 01:21:35,474
(Indistinct conversations)
1874
01:21:44,900 --> 01:21:48,487
This is the Stretch Armstrong
and Bobbito reunion.
1875
01:21:48,487 --> 01:21:50,823
If you don't know,
it's 89.9 FM.
1876
01:21:50,823 --> 01:21:53,034
So this is actually
the 20th anniversary
1877
01:21:53,034 --> 01:21:56,537
of us doing a show--
let's do a round of applause.
1878
01:21:56,537 --> 01:22:00,207
First time.
First time, you know?
1879
01:22:00,207 --> 01:22:02,961
When I proposed that show
and I arranged it,
1880
01:22:02,961 --> 01:22:05,755
- you were down,
you were like whatever--
- Yeah, oh, yeah.
1881
01:22:05,755 --> 01:22:08,007
We're doing the show.
Sear's in, I'm in.
1882
01:22:08,007 --> 01:22:11,093
You're like, "I'm down with it,
but you know,
1883
01:22:11,093 --> 01:22:13,137
let's just do 1:00 to 3:00,"
I'm like, "No, no."
1884
01:22:13,137 --> 01:22:16,057
(Shouting and laughter)
1885
01:22:16,057 --> 01:22:18,768
"Let's just do 1:00 to 3:00."
I'm like you know what?
1886
01:22:18,768 --> 01:22:21,437
You can go home, me and Sear
are gonna go till 5:00.
1887
01:22:21,437 --> 01:22:24,315
3:00 comes around,
you're like--
1888
01:22:24,315 --> 01:22:26,734
4:00 comes around, 5:00.
1889
01:22:26,734 --> 01:22:28,444
We asked the station manager
can we keep going?
1890
01:22:28,444 --> 01:22:30,237
We went till 6:00.
You were there the whole time.
1891
01:22:30,237 --> 01:22:34,325
Bobbito: My head space,
like, I could feel 1991.
1892
01:22:34,325 --> 01:22:37,203
(Chattering, laughter)
(Repeating) Yo-yo-yo-yo...
1893
01:22:41,540 --> 01:22:44,168
Biggie Smalls came onto our show
before he was signed,
1894
01:22:44,168 --> 01:22:48,464
but years later,
he saw you on the sidewalk.
1895
01:22:48,464 --> 01:22:50,966
Stretch: And I see taking refuge
from the rain
1896
01:22:50,966 --> 01:22:53,219
cease and big in a doorway,
1897
01:22:53,219 --> 01:22:55,179
and they see me
crossing the street,
1898
01:22:55,179 --> 01:22:59,683
and as I'm like 10 feet away,
Big goes, "Yo-yo-yo-yo-yo..."
1899
01:22:59,683 --> 01:23:02,978
That's 95,
so I'm like, wow.
1900
01:23:02,978 --> 01:23:05,065
He's still listening.
That's crazy.
1901
01:23:05,065 --> 01:23:06,941
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
1902
01:23:06,941 --> 01:23:08,776
He got over it.
1903
01:23:25,126 --> 01:23:28,087
Nobody was rich yet
or nothing like that.
1904
01:23:28,087 --> 01:23:29,964
So nobody had an attitude.
1905
01:23:29,964 --> 01:23:32,383
You put Jay Z to wait
in the hallway for 30 minutes,
1906
01:23:32,383 --> 01:23:34,927
he waited for 30 minutes,
then he came in here
1907
01:23:34,927 --> 01:23:36,846
and rapped his ass off
for free.
1908
01:23:36,846 --> 01:23:41,183
That was the first spark of just
getting that recognition.
1909
01:23:41,183 --> 01:23:43,477
From there,
things start happening.
1910
01:23:43,477 --> 01:23:46,480
Bobbito: You got a new joint out
we should talk about real quick.
1911
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:48,315
Stretch: I'm about to throw
both of those on.
1912
01:23:48,315 --> 01:23:51,402
Bobbito: Is it available
in the stores for people to buy,
1913
01:23:51,402 --> 01:23:54,530
this independent joint?
Jay Z: Yeah, yeah,
it's in some stores,
1914
01:23:54,530 --> 01:23:56,615
but once we lock
this distribution thing down,
1915
01:23:56,615 --> 01:23:59,243
it's gonna be in all the stores.
It's called In My Lifetime.
1916
01:23:59,243 --> 01:24:00,828
Bobbito: On what label?
1917
01:24:00,828 --> 01:24:02,913
- Roc-A-Feller Records.
- Roc-A-Feller Records.
1918
01:24:02,913 --> 01:24:04,748
Jay Z:
It's doing real good.
1919
01:24:04,748 --> 01:24:06,709
Bobbito: Support Jay Z.
He's one of the originators.
1920
01:24:06,709 --> 01:24:08,377
Jay Z: Yeah,
yeah, I do that.
1921
01:24:08,377 --> 01:24:10,088
Bobbito: Come on, baby.
1922
01:24:10,088 --> 01:24:12,840
Yo, play the Nas freestyle.
That's my favorite.
1923
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:17,136
Nobody talk to me right now.
I wanna listen to this.
1924
01:24:17,136 --> 01:24:19,805
Nas: ♪ Nasty Nas
conducts a raw note ♪
1925
01:24:19,805 --> 01:24:22,057
♪ My vocal chords
can repel a sore throat ♪
1926
01:24:22,057 --> 01:24:24,477
♪ My domain is like
Dracula's castle ♪
1927
01:24:24,477 --> 01:24:27,146
♪ Rhymes are psychic,
brain cells a hassle ♪
1928
01:24:27,146 --> 01:24:29,315
♪ I provoke your instinct
not to think ♪
1929
01:24:29,315 --> 01:24:32,193
♪ Enter your brain and drain
till your mind is blank ♪
1930
01:24:32,193 --> 01:24:36,114
♪ My microphone... is on,
and that's my word is bond ♪
1931
01:24:36,114 --> 01:24:38,240
I just wanna say L
was a real cool dude.
1932
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,077
He was actually
ridiculously quiet.
1933
01:24:42,077 --> 01:24:45,414
A lot of people don't realize
what a just laid-back cat--
1934
01:24:45,414 --> 01:24:48,209
'cause, you know, he was so
outlandish with his rhymes.
1935
01:24:48,209 --> 01:24:50,002
Big L: ♪ My crew be delivering
hot lead ♪
1936
01:24:50,002 --> 01:24:51,879
♪ When gats are clenched
rappers I jack and lynch ♪
1937
01:24:51,879 --> 01:24:53,631
♪ Nobody can fuck
with the way I be killing ♪
1938
01:24:53,631 --> 01:24:55,883
♪ The shit in rap events
Big L is the nigga you expect ♪
1939
01:24:55,883 --> 01:24:58,010
♪ To catch wreck
on any cassette deck ♪
1940
01:24:58,010 --> 01:25:00,095
♪ I'm so ahead of my time,
my parents haven't met yet ♪
1941
01:25:00,095 --> 01:25:02,473
Jewlz: He literally lived
the MC shit
1942
01:25:02,473 --> 01:25:05,392
where we could be cool
but once we get in that booth,
1943
01:25:05,392 --> 01:25:07,353
fuck you, fuck you.
1944
01:25:07,353 --> 01:25:09,355
I'm trying
to tear your head off.
1945
01:25:09,355 --> 01:25:11,732
That what was l lived to do.
1946
01:25:11,732 --> 01:25:14,818
(Jazz music plays)
1947
01:25:14,818 --> 01:25:17,571
It makes people wonder
what could have been.
1948
01:25:17,571 --> 01:25:21,325
Here it is, this somewhat
virtually unknown artist
1949
01:25:21,325 --> 01:25:23,118
giving this great big artist
1950
01:25:23,118 --> 01:25:28,207
that everybody is so aware
of now a run for his money.
1951
01:25:28,207 --> 01:25:31,627
DJ Premier:
He's a double-platinum respected
guy that never went platinum.
1952
01:25:36,674 --> 01:25:39,385
Fat Joe: I got a cousin,
he's from the Bronx, young.
1953
01:25:39,385 --> 01:25:41,220
He says, "Yo,
I wanna play you something."
1954
01:25:41,220 --> 01:25:45,391
And it's a cd of Big L
on your show with Jay Z.
1955
01:25:45,391 --> 01:25:48,727
He was like, "Yo, I caught
this shit off the Internet."
1956
01:25:48,727 --> 01:25:51,647
I'm like...
(Laughter)
1957
01:25:51,647 --> 01:25:53,649
"That was really your man?"
1958
01:25:53,649 --> 01:25:57,570
I'm like, "Motherfucker,
I was there.
1959
01:25:57,570 --> 01:26:00,240
Like, what the fuck
are you talking about?"
1960
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,534
"No, man, this shit is crazy."
1961
01:26:03,534 --> 01:26:06,954
Big L came up there
and did the disintegration,
1962
01:26:06,954 --> 01:26:09,081
what I was dreaming
I could have done.
1963
01:26:09,081 --> 01:26:12,585
Every punch line was sick.
I ain't gonna front.
1964
01:26:12,585 --> 01:26:14,587
That was one of those moments
on my tape
1965
01:26:14,587 --> 01:26:17,464
that made me a lot of money.
I owe a lot to y'all.
1966
01:26:17,464 --> 01:26:20,676
A whole lot of pairs
of Pumas and Addidas and Nikes
1967
01:26:20,676 --> 01:26:23,679
and Timberlands that I was
buying came from them tapes
1968
01:26:23,679 --> 01:26:25,264
selling a whole lot, bro.
1969
01:26:25,264 --> 01:26:27,141
When I was around niggas
that was hustling,
1970
01:26:27,141 --> 01:26:28,934
I was too scared
to give it a shot,
1971
01:26:28,934 --> 01:26:32,855
so the Stretch and Bobbito
hustle was a lot safer for me.
1972
01:26:32,855 --> 01:26:35,024
(Laughter)
1973
01:26:37,235 --> 01:26:38,694
Fuck that.
1974
01:26:38,694 --> 01:26:41,905
Hold on, before we get to that.
This 89.9 FM.
1975
01:26:41,905 --> 01:26:43,324
Yeah, your voice
sounds great, Stretch.
1976
01:26:43,324 --> 01:26:44,867
No, no, I had to fix it.
1977
01:26:44,867 --> 01:26:46,827
No, I'm saying,
but your voice sounds great.
1978
01:26:46,827 --> 01:26:48,787
- Well, thank you.
- Good to hear your voice
in the headphones.
1979
01:26:48,787 --> 01:26:50,581
I'm getting sentimental
right now.
1980
01:26:50,581 --> 01:26:53,293
You sat here and you watch a
bunch of motherfuckers get rich
1981
01:26:53,293 --> 01:26:56,337
while you broke 'em and you blew
'em up, right or wrong.
1982
01:26:56,337 --> 01:26:57,796
You still love hip-hop.
1983
01:26:57,796 --> 01:27:00,049
Did the show for eight years
absolutely free.
1984
01:27:00,049 --> 01:27:03,093
And you watched motherfuckers
turn around and get rich.
1985
01:27:03,093 --> 01:27:05,012
- I spent money
making that show.
- Yeah, yeah.
1986
01:27:05,012 --> 01:27:06,764
We lost money doing the show.
1987
01:27:06,764 --> 01:27:10,100
Nah, you ain't lose money
because it's priceless.
1988
01:27:10,100 --> 01:27:14,480
I owe a lot to you guys,
and we all do.
1989
01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:18,025
All the guys from my generation,
they know what's up.
1990
01:27:18,025 --> 01:27:19,693
I'm glad to see you guys
are still cool.
1991
01:27:19,693 --> 01:27:21,862
You don't hate each other.
(Laughter)
1992
01:27:21,862 --> 01:27:23,656
You know what I'm saying?
1993
01:27:23,656 --> 01:27:25,283
(Telephone rings)
Lord Sear: Who is it?!
1994
01:27:25,283 --> 01:27:27,326
(Laughter)
Bobbito: Our first phone call.
1995
01:27:27,326 --> 01:27:28,702
Wait, wait, wait,
hold on, hold on.
1996
01:27:28,702 --> 01:27:30,204
Lord Sear:
See who it is.
1997
01:27:30,204 --> 01:27:33,707
(Laughter)
Oh, my God.
1998
01:27:33,707 --> 01:27:35,668
Man:
Oh, my goodness.
1999
01:27:52,726 --> 01:27:56,105
Yo, this is so much fun!
2000
01:27:56,105 --> 01:27:57,856
- Keep it real.
- Yeah, what?
2001
01:27:57,856 --> 01:27:59,817
When we stopped doing
the show together,
2002
01:27:59,817 --> 01:28:01,985
when we started alternating,
it wasn't as fun.
2003
01:28:01,985 --> 01:28:03,321
- No.
- I love you, man.
2004
01:28:03,321 --> 01:28:06,323
- Love you, too.
- All: Aw!
2005
01:28:06,323 --> 01:28:08,701
(Laughter)
2006
01:28:08,701 --> 01:28:09,660
What should we do?
2007
01:28:09,660 --> 01:28:10,703
Le hugs.
2008
01:28:10,703 --> 01:28:12,329
(Laughter)
2009
01:28:12,329 --> 01:28:14,373
Le flowers.
2010
01:28:14,373 --> 01:28:16,333
Le candy.
2011
01:28:16,333 --> 01:28:19,586
We were right here on this
corner, 104th St. and Broadway.
2012
01:28:19,586 --> 01:28:23,257
We created our own reality by
putting it in the universe.
2013
01:28:23,257 --> 01:28:27,052
- Manifest.
- Manifest right here
on this corner!
2014
01:28:27,052 --> 01:28:29,138
Here! Aqui!
2015
01:28:29,138 --> 01:28:32,641
The Stretch and Bobbito Show
was the number-one,
2016
01:28:32,641 --> 01:28:37,438
absolute best hip-hop radio show
ever, period.
2017
01:28:37,438 --> 01:28:39,940
I know.
You know how?
2018
01:28:39,940 --> 01:28:43,110
'Cause I was there, son, yeah!
2019
01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:45,738
What up, baby?
What up, baby?
2020
01:28:45,738 --> 01:28:48,407
20 years and up!
Hey, yo!
2021
01:28:48,407 --> 01:28:50,200
Y'all niggas know
this song right here!
2022
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:54,079
(Shouting)
2023
01:28:54,079 --> 01:28:56,457
Yeah. Yeah.
2024
01:28:56,457 --> 01:28:59,710
♪ To all the killers
in the hundred dollar-- ♪
2025
01:28:59,710 --> 01:29:02,504
♪ Uh-oh, uh-oh. ♪
2026
01:29:02,504 --> 01:29:05,716
♪ Cash rules everything
around me. ♪
2027
01:29:05,716 --> 01:29:07,801
♪ Dolla dolla bill, y'all! ♪
2028
01:29:07,801 --> 01:29:10,637
♪ Cash rules everything,
C.R.E.A.M. Get the money! ♪
2029
01:29:10,637 --> 01:29:13,182
Crowd:
♪ Dolla dolla bill, y'all ♪
2030
01:29:13,182 --> 01:29:15,934
♪ I grew up on the crime side,
New York Times side ♪
2031
01:29:15,934 --> 01:29:18,562
♪ Staying alive was no jive
at second hands ♪
2032
01:29:18,562 --> 01:29:21,482
♪ Moms bounced on old man
so then we moved to ♪
2033
01:29:21,482 --> 01:29:23,108
Crowd:
♪ Shaolin land ♪
2034
01:29:23,108 --> 01:29:25,486
♪ But it was just a dream
for the teen ♪
2035
01:29:25,486 --> 01:29:28,238
♪ Was a fiend
started smokin' woolies ♪
2036
01:29:28,238 --> 01:29:31,283
♪ And running up in gates,
doing shit for high stakes ♪
2037
01:29:31,283 --> 01:29:33,368
♪ Making my way
on fire escapes ♪
2038
01:29:33,368 --> 01:29:36,121
♪ But no question I would speed
for cracks and weed ♪
2039
01:29:36,121 --> 01:29:38,499
♪ Combination made ♪
♪ My eyes bleed ♪
2040
01:29:38,499 --> 01:29:40,000
♪ But no question
I would flow off ♪
2041
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:41,668
♪ Try to get the dough all ♪
2042
01:29:41,668 --> 01:29:43,504
Crowd: ♪ Sticking up white boys
in ball courts ♪
2043
01:29:43,504 --> 01:29:46,673
♪ Man my life got no better,
same damn 'lo sweater ♪
2044
01:29:46,673 --> 01:29:48,884
♪ Times is ruff and tuff ♪
♪ Like leather ♪
2045
01:29:48,884 --> 01:29:50,511
♪ Figured out
I went the wrong route ♪
2046
01:29:50,511 --> 01:29:53,764
♪ Ao I got with a real ass-- ♪
New York!
2047
01:29:53,764 --> 01:29:57,100
♪ Catchin' keys from across seas
rollin in MPV's every week ♪
2048
01:29:57,100 --> 01:29:58,894
Crowd:
♪ We made 40 G's ♪
2049
01:29:58,894 --> 01:30:01,897
♪ Yo my nigga respect mine,
here go the tech nine ♪
2050
01:30:01,897 --> 01:30:03,857
Crowd:
♪ Pow, move from the gate now ♪
2051
01:30:03,857 --> 01:30:06,318
Stop that shit.
2052
01:30:06,318 --> 01:30:08,987
I ain't even know that shit
blended like that.
2053
01:30:08,987 --> 01:30:11,031
Oh, shit!
2054
01:30:11,031 --> 01:30:14,701
I ain't even know that shit
was gonna blend like that.
2055
01:30:14,701 --> 01:30:17,120
Hey, yo, I love y'all, man.
Word up, man.
2056
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,915
Salute the motherfucking
presidential--
2057
01:30:19,915 --> 01:30:21,667
presidential candidates of rap.
2058
01:30:21,667 --> 01:30:23,752
Yo, give it up for Raekwon,
people.
2059
01:30:23,752 --> 01:30:26,880
- Love y'all niggas, man.
- All right, love you too,
my brother,
2060
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,884
Crowd chanting: Wu tang!
Wu tang! Wu tang!
2061
01:30:30,884 --> 01:30:32,970
Wu tang! Wu tang!
2062
01:30:32,970 --> 01:30:36,223
Raekwon: High school reunion
shit of hip-hop niggas,
2063
01:30:36,223 --> 01:30:39,351
and you know authentic niggas
that made stars
2064
01:30:39,351 --> 01:30:42,480
out of dudes today by just
co-signing them.
2065
01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:43,981
It was just an honor to be
there, man.
2066
01:30:43,981 --> 01:30:46,024
I wouldn't have missed it
for nothing, B,
2067
01:30:46,024 --> 01:30:49,069
because it's like, yo,
y'all the ancestors of hip-hop.
2068
01:30:49,069 --> 01:30:53,866
Stretch: The '90s were a really
special period in hip-hop.
2069
01:30:53,866 --> 01:30:55,742
They were a transition
from the innocence
2070
01:30:55,742 --> 01:30:59,580
and discovery of the '80s
into the commercialization
2071
01:30:59,580 --> 01:31:02,916
and globalization
of the 2000s and beyond.
2072
01:31:02,916 --> 01:31:06,461
I played a big role
in establishing the blueprint
2073
01:31:06,461 --> 01:31:07,754
for the best kind of hip-hop
2074
01:31:07,754 --> 01:31:10,883
which to this day
is still valid.
2075
01:31:10,883 --> 01:31:12,885
Bobbito: We had a voice
as a radio show
2076
01:31:12,885 --> 01:31:16,763
that was a little bit deeper
than entertainment music.
2077
01:31:16,763 --> 01:31:19,892
We were in this little box,
and just the impact
2078
01:31:19,892 --> 01:31:22,978
that all that's had
on such a personal level
2079
01:31:22,978 --> 01:31:26,023
for me and for the people
that we touched is--
2080
01:31:26,023 --> 01:31:27,733
I still can't really grasp it.
2081
01:31:27,733 --> 01:31:30,235
All I could take
is kind of like these
2082
01:31:30,235 --> 01:31:32,112
personal relationships
that we've made.
2083
01:31:32,112 --> 01:31:33,739
We've become lifelong friends.
2084
01:31:33,739 --> 01:31:35,449
There's like these
satellite people
2085
01:31:35,449 --> 01:31:37,034
that we're both
bonded too as well,
2086
01:31:37,034 --> 01:31:38,702
and I'm just--
I'm thankful for that.
2087
01:31:38,702 --> 01:31:40,621
(Jazz music plays)
2088
01:31:45,626 --> 01:31:48,462
I wish we could go back then
just for a day
2089
01:31:48,462 --> 01:31:50,964
just to fucking see it again.
2090
01:31:50,964 --> 01:31:53,759
Yeah, I might have
to freestyle tonight.
2091
01:31:53,759 --> 01:31:57,304
Del the Funkee Homosapien:
This is one of the dopest shows,
I have to say
2092
01:31:57,304 --> 01:31:59,890
I appreciate that.
We appreciate that.
2093
01:31:59,890 --> 01:32:01,934
This is the Stretch
Armstrong Show.
2094
01:32:01,934 --> 01:32:06,188
My name is Bobbito
on the ill tip, and, uh...
2095
01:32:06,188 --> 01:32:11,902
We ou-u-u-t.
2096
01:32:12,819 --> 01:32:14,738
(Hip-hop music plays)
2097
01:33:52,169 --> 01:33:54,087
Should I lean forward as well?
2098
01:33:54,087 --> 01:33:58,718
No, lean back.
(Laughter)
2099
01:33:58,718 --> 01:34:01,053
Yo, what's up,
this is DJ run.
2100
01:34:01,053 --> 01:34:03,263
What's going on?
This is DMC.
2101
01:34:03,263 --> 01:34:05,974
I go by the name of Jam Master J
from around the way,
2102
01:34:05,974 --> 01:34:08,310
and when I'm around the way,
I listen to my man
2103
01:34:08,310 --> 01:34:13,815
Stretch Armstrong
on 89.9 WKCR.
2104
01:34:13,815 --> 01:34:15,358
Peace.
2105
01:34:15,358 --> 01:34:17,736
Bobbito: KCR,
live on the air.
2106
01:34:17,736 --> 01:34:19,738
Man: Yeah, what's up, kid?
It's Bolo Brown.
2107
01:34:19,738 --> 01:34:22,240
A bowl of brown shit.
2108
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:23,950
Lord Sear: A bowl of brown shit.
Boston baked beans.
2109
01:34:23,950 --> 01:34:25,827
(Laughter)
2110
01:34:25,827 --> 01:34:27,621
Man: Check, check,
wanna give a shout out
2111
01:34:27,621 --> 01:34:29,164
to y'all,
know what I'm saying?
2112
01:34:29,164 --> 01:34:32,626
- All right?
Yo, and yo.
- That's great.
2113
01:34:32,626 --> 01:34:35,837
- Yo, Bobbito, you coming
with the camcorder?
- What happened?
2114
01:34:35,837 --> 01:34:38,048
You coming with the camcorder
to the parade?
2115
01:34:38,048 --> 01:34:39,966
No, no, no--
2116
01:34:39,966 --> 01:34:41,551
Lord Sear: (Mocking) Yeah,
we come with the cam-quarter
2117
01:34:41,551 --> 01:34:42,803
to the pa-wade.
2118
01:34:42,803 --> 01:34:45,765
(Laughter)
Cam-quarter.
2119
01:34:45,765 --> 01:34:50,310
Gonna watch the parade
with a cam-quarter.
(Laughter)
2120
01:34:50,310 --> 01:34:51,978
No, I'll bring the camcorder
to your girl's house.
2121
01:34:51,978 --> 01:34:54,523
(Laughter)
2122
01:34:54,523 --> 01:34:57,234
While you're at the parade.
2123
01:34:57,234 --> 01:35:00,070
(Laughter)
Okay, camcorder.
2124
01:35:00,070 --> 01:35:01,947
(All speaking at once)
2125
01:35:01,947 --> 01:35:04,157
- Much love to 'y'all, yo.
- All right.
2126
01:35:04,157 --> 01:35:06,576
Yo, yo, Stretch,
I don't forget,
2127
01:35:06,576 --> 01:35:09,162
you look like that guy
from "The Real World."
2128
01:35:09,162 --> 01:35:11,581
Man: Yo, Monique.
Yo, what's up, baby?
2129
01:35:11,581 --> 01:35:12,958
Monique:
What up?
2130
01:35:12,958 --> 01:35:16,002
Yo, I got one hand
on my left nut.
2131
01:35:16,002 --> 01:35:19,798
(Laughter)
2132
01:35:19,798 --> 01:35:21,133
Bobbito:
And what else?
2133
01:35:21,133 --> 01:35:24,094
I got a naked Barbie doll
in my butt.
2134
01:35:24,094 --> 01:35:26,304
(Laughter)
2135
01:35:26,304 --> 01:35:28,348
Bobbito: Stick a Ken doll
in there, too.
2136
01:35:28,348 --> 01:35:31,268
(Laughter)
2137
01:35:31,268 --> 01:35:34,772
Make them buns each other
in your crack hole!
2138
01:35:34,772 --> 01:35:38,066
Kool Keith: My work ethnics
was so much greedier.
2139
01:35:38,066 --> 01:35:39,526
Bobbito:
Your work ethnics?
2140
01:35:39,526 --> 01:35:41,528
My work-- my work--
you know, my work--
2141
01:35:41,528 --> 01:35:43,363
- Ethic.
- Ethic, ethic.
2142
01:35:43,363 --> 01:35:47,075
Yeah, my work ethnic was so--
no.
2143
01:35:47,075 --> 01:35:49,953
We gotta cut that
right there.
2144
01:35:49,953 --> 01:35:51,955
There's no New York rappers
no more.
2145
01:35:51,955 --> 01:35:53,582
I went to a show a year ago.
2146
01:35:53,582 --> 01:35:55,458
And they had all these rappers
from the Bronx.
2147
01:35:55,458 --> 01:35:58,587
"Yeah!"
(Imitates beat)
2148
01:35:58,587 --> 01:36:01,882
I'm like, how is this guy
from the Bronx?
2149
01:36:01,882 --> 01:36:06,011
He was dressed in orange
and neon yellow and lime green
2150
01:36:06,011 --> 01:36:08,138
and glasses this big.
2151
01:36:08,138 --> 01:36:11,641
You know,
like, what happened?
2152
01:36:16,730 --> 01:36:19,107
Stretch: At what point
did the show for you turn--
2153
01:36:19,107 --> 01:36:20,859
(Farts)
2154
01:36:20,859 --> 01:36:22,861
Yo, who was that?
2155
01:36:22,861 --> 01:36:25,405
Who do you think?
Really? Really?
2156
01:36:25,405 --> 01:36:28,116
You gotta ask?
Come on, bro.
2157
01:36:28,116 --> 01:36:30,619
Why can't you go that way?
It's good for the camera.
2158
01:36:30,619 --> 01:36:33,330
- Wow.
- Some things never change.
2159
01:36:33,330 --> 01:36:38,335
I don't wanna breathe your
fucking anal molecules, bro.
2160
01:36:38,335 --> 01:36:41,671
I had a smell flashback.
2161
01:36:41,671 --> 01:36:43,882
(Laughter)
2162
01:36:43,882 --> 01:36:46,885
The incarcerated population
of the tri-state area,
2163
01:36:46,885 --> 01:36:48,803
they know who we are.
2164
01:36:48,803 --> 01:36:51,556
How would we fare if we got
locked up for something?
2165
01:36:51,556 --> 01:36:53,475
Didn't Big Graveyard
write you a letter?
2166
01:36:53,475 --> 01:36:55,560
We got a letter
from Big Graveyard saying,
2167
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:58,605
"I'm in Rahway doing like a,
I don't know,
2168
01:36:58,605 --> 01:37:00,273
10-, 15- year bid.
2169
01:37:00,273 --> 01:37:02,609
When I get out,
you guys need me for anything,
2170
01:37:02,609 --> 01:37:05,779
I got you."
(Laughs)
2171
01:37:05,779 --> 01:37:07,656
That just stuck in my head,
to this day.
2172
01:37:07,656 --> 01:37:10,742
Big Graveyard,
if you're out there...
2173
01:37:10,742 --> 01:37:11,868
Thank you.
2174
01:37:11,868 --> 01:37:13,328
Hit me up on instagram.
2175
01:37:13,328 --> 01:37:15,455
I was tempted to eat
your blueberries.
2176
01:37:15,455 --> 01:37:17,666
- Yo, get busy.
- Word?
2177
01:37:17,666 --> 01:37:19,501
I'm a eat some of them shits
when we done.
2178
01:37:19,501 --> 01:37:21,711
When I cut the lime,
he said, "Busta Limes."
2179
01:37:21,711 --> 01:37:23,630
(Laughter)
2180
01:37:27,050 --> 01:37:30,345
Yo-- (Laughs) Yo.
2181
01:37:30,345 --> 01:37:32,305
Sear, me and Stretch
are proud of you, bro.
2182
01:37:32,305 --> 01:37:35,016
- Thank you.
- For real, man, rocking
on Sirius Satellite FM,
2183
01:37:35,016 --> 01:37:36,810
Monday through Friday
4:00 to 8:00.
2184
01:37:36,810 --> 01:37:40,146
I need a copy of this.
Can you give me a copy?
2185
01:37:40,146 --> 01:37:42,732
You can put it
on an mp3 file?
2186
01:37:42,732 --> 01:37:45,277
(Laughs) All right.
2187
01:37:45,277 --> 01:37:47,612
On recording:
♪ I provoke your instinct
not to think ♪
2188
01:37:47,612 --> 01:37:50,615
♪ Enter your brain ♪
♪ And drain
till your mind is blank ♪
2189
01:37:50,615 --> 01:37:53,243
Both: ♪ My microphone...
is on ♪
2190
01:37:53,243 --> 01:37:54,869
♪ And that's
my word is bond ♪
2191
01:37:54,869 --> 01:37:56,788
(Jazz music playing)
2192
01:38:30,739 --> 01:38:35,493
Stretch and Bobbito!
(Sings notes)
2193
01:38:35,493 --> 01:38:37,078
Man: Rolling.
2194
01:38:37,078 --> 01:38:39,122
Stretch:
Hello, WKCR.
2195
01:38:39,122 --> 01:38:41,791
Man: Yo, yo, y'all gonna play
that new joint by um--
2196
01:38:41,791 --> 01:38:45,420
(All shouting, laughter)
2197
01:38:45,420 --> 01:38:49,424
- This show is over.
- Show is over, baby, sorry man.
2198
01:38:49,424 --> 01:38:52,010
Man: Y'all not coming back on
in about half an hour?
2199
01:38:52,010 --> 01:38:53,553
- No!
- No, no, no!
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