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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:47,870 Man: I hope you have something interesting to show me. 2 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:51,310 I have a few odds and ends here 3 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:53,140 that might be of some interest. 4 00:00:53,310 --> 00:00:54,610 Dastmalchian: You know, every horror fan 5 00:00:54,750 --> 00:00:56,700 has their own little secret movie... 6 00:00:56,750 --> 00:00:58,530 Man #2: I want to make some films here. 7 00:01:00,530 --> 00:01:03,280 Really weird films, and you two can be in them. 8 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,320 ...that only they know about... 9 00:01:07,670 --> 00:01:10,850 ...that they are dying for you to get to know as well. 10 00:01:11,020 --> 00:01:13,460 Die, you zombie bastards! 11 00:01:15,070 --> 00:01:16,980 Wait, you'll fuck me when I'm dead? 12 00:01:18,510 --> 00:01:19,860 Zimmerman: Hidden gems exist because there's such 13 00:01:20,030 --> 00:01:21,470 a proliferation of horror, 14 00:01:21,510 --> 00:01:23,380 and there's so many modes of distribution 15 00:01:23,470 --> 00:01:25,520 that a movie could come out in a wide release 16 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,650 and still not get valued or seen. 17 00:01:28,690 --> 00:01:31,480 It's in many ways about exposure and rediscovery, 18 00:01:31,650 --> 00:01:35,920 or a film that in some ways was ahead of its time. 19 00:01:35,960 --> 00:01:38,000 "The House of the Devil" is a movie 20 00:01:38,050 --> 00:01:39,880 that basically predicted the horror wave 21 00:01:40,010 --> 00:01:41,920 that was going to come in like four or five years. 22 00:01:43,620 --> 00:01:45,100 There are probably plenty of movies like that 23 00:01:45,140 --> 00:01:47,010 that were out of step with what was so popular. 24 00:01:47,060 --> 00:01:48,670 So, now they're being rediscovered, 25 00:01:48,710 --> 00:01:50,240 or five years later, they're being rediscovered. 26 00:01:55,810 --> 00:01:57,980 Let's go, Ernie. This place is dead. 27 00:01:58,030 --> 00:01:59,590 Yeah, where's all the weirdos? 28 00:01:59,770 --> 00:02:04,730 Man: There are no weirdos here! 29 00:02:04,770 --> 00:02:07,250 Gingold: One film that was made by a studio that I love 30 00:02:07,300 --> 00:02:08,560 that never got the release it deserved 31 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,650 is called "Freaked" by Alex Winter, 32 00:02:12,820 --> 00:02:16,780 which is this absolutely insane horror-comedy 33 00:02:16,870 --> 00:02:20,270 where he plays this very spoiled movie star 34 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,010 who winds up being trapped in a compound by this guy... 35 00:02:23,180 --> 00:02:25,570 I am Elijah C. Skuggs, proud proprietor 36 00:02:25,620 --> 00:02:28,800 of Skuggs' Fabulous Freakland and Mutant Emporium. 37 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,280 ...who turns people into very bizarre freaks. 38 00:02:36,060 --> 00:02:38,500 And you have all kinds of weird characters. 39 00:02:38,540 --> 00:02:41,240 It's like Mr. T plays the bearded lady.How are you doing? 40 00:02:41,290 --> 00:02:44,380 And Bobcat Goldthwait voices this sockhead character. 41 00:02:44,420 --> 00:02:46,380 It's the end of the world. The apocalypse! 42 00:02:48,290 --> 00:02:50,430 And, unfortunately, after it was finished, 43 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,380 there was a studio regime change. 44 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,170 The new regime did not get it. 45 00:02:54,210 --> 00:02:55,650 Gentlemen, all those in favor. 46 00:02:55,820 --> 00:02:58,520 Good. It's unanimous. 47 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,440 I knew I couldn't trust you, corporate greaseball. 48 00:03:01,570 --> 00:03:04,310 I think it opened in one theater in New York for a week. 49 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:09,920 The work that Tom Stern and I were doing 50 00:03:10,050 --> 00:03:12,270 at that time was aggressive. 51 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,800 We had a show on MTV called "The Idiot Box" 52 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,800 that I also starred in. 53 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,720 It was aggressively violent. 54 00:03:18,850 --> 00:03:19,980 Freeze! You're dead, punk! 55 00:03:24,420 --> 00:03:27,200 Ow! My legs! 56 00:03:27,330 --> 00:03:28,900 Winter: So, with "Freaked," we really were focused 57 00:03:28,940 --> 00:03:30,900 on creating something that had the most amount 58 00:03:30,940 --> 00:03:33,430 of physical effects possible... 59 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,860 Giant Rasta eyeballs, just like Rick said! 60 00:03:36,990 --> 00:03:39,560 ...largely out of necessity. 61 00:03:39,690 --> 00:03:41,560 It's a great makeup effects showcase. 62 00:03:41,610 --> 00:03:43,390 It was one of those films from the '90s 63 00:03:43,570 --> 00:03:45,440 where they got several makeup effects crews 64 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:46,400 to handle all the work. 65 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:47,920 You had Steve Johnson, 66 00:03:48,090 --> 00:03:49,920 Alterian Studios. 67 00:03:50,090 --> 00:03:52,010 Screaming Mad George contributes a lot 68 00:03:52,050 --> 00:03:54,270 of really bizarre stuff to this movie. 69 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,360 You got a problem, mister? 70 00:03:56,410 --> 00:03:59,020 Winter: So, it was this idea of taking 71 00:03:59,060 --> 00:04:02,800 what really ought to have been an animated movie 72 00:04:02,850 --> 00:04:04,670 and making it live action. 73 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:05,980 We're gonna take something that shouldn't exist 74 00:04:06,150 --> 00:04:07,370 in the physical world... 75 00:04:12,860 --> 00:04:14,550 ...and we're gonna figure out a way to make it exist 76 00:04:14,730 --> 00:04:15,640 in the physical world. 77 00:04:15,690 --> 00:04:17,080 Shit. 78 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,080 And that was the mission. 79 00:04:20,990 --> 00:04:22,470 It was extremely ambitious 80 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,390 and just about killed both of us. 81 00:04:25,350 --> 00:04:26,610 But it was a great deal of fun. 82 00:04:29,660 --> 00:04:32,050 Now, that's entertainment. 83 00:04:39,450 --> 00:04:42,100 Due: I've given some thought to what a rare gem 84 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:45,150 in horror might be, and it's tough. 85 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,980 There are a lot of obscure movies out there 86 00:04:47,110 --> 00:04:48,720 that a lot of people love. 87 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,500 But I think one movie a lot of horror fans 88 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,770 probably missed because it came out in the 1970s -- 89 00:04:55,810 --> 00:04:58,510 and because it was literally in movie jail -- 90 00:04:58,550 --> 00:05:00,770 it was at the Museum of Modern Art, and it was locked up 91 00:05:00,820 --> 00:05:03,080 and you could only see it one person at a time 92 00:05:03,250 --> 00:05:04,650 or something like that -- 93 00:05:04,820 --> 00:05:06,910 Is "Ganja & Hess" by Bill Gunn. 94 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,050 It was meant to be kind of a "Blacula" ripoff. 95 00:05:15,220 --> 00:05:19,970 Announcer: "Blacula," Dracula's soul brother. 96 00:05:20,050 --> 00:05:23,620 Due: But Bill Gunn decided to go his own way with it, 97 00:05:23,710 --> 00:05:26,630 and he used blood as a metaphor for addiction. 98 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,850 Gunn: The idea of desire is very much a part of it. 99 00:05:29,930 --> 00:05:32,760 After all the Myrthians thought they had a desire for blood, 100 00:05:32,810 --> 00:05:35,030 not a need for it, but it was a need. 101 00:05:38,810 --> 00:05:41,990 And it was sort of a meditation on class differences. 102 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,300 Why do you live in a house this fine, alone? 103 00:05:44,340 --> 00:05:46,080 That's not a polite question. 104 00:05:46,250 --> 00:05:49,000 They're the only ones worth asking. 105 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,950 And the little racial stuff in there, 106 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,090 but also a love story... 107 00:05:53,220 --> 00:05:54,350 I want you to live forever. 108 00:05:56,740 --> 00:05:59,830 The way you're acting, you'd think I was gonna live forever. 109 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,400 No, I mean, I really want you to live forever. 110 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:07,490 ...with some gorgeous fantasy imagery set in Africa. 111 00:06:10,230 --> 00:06:14,410 It's not paced like a contemporary horror movie. 112 00:06:14,460 --> 00:06:17,720 It really is a bit more of sort of a visual meditation, 113 00:06:17,890 --> 00:06:19,640 almost like a poem. 114 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,160 But it has also some pretty shocking stuff in there. 115 00:06:29,990 --> 00:06:33,260 And a lot of horror fans have not seen "Ganja & Hess." 116 00:06:37,870 --> 00:06:39,870 There it is. 117 00:06:43,750 --> 00:06:46,750 Carolyn: "The Stone Tape" is written by Nigel Kneale, 118 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,880 who's a very, very influential British screenwriter. 119 00:06:49,930 --> 00:06:56,450 He's always been very good at bringing science into horror. 120 00:06:56,500 --> 00:06:57,850 Sayenga: A group of researchers 121 00:06:57,890 --> 00:06:59,980 are looking for a new way to record sound. 122 00:07:00,110 --> 00:07:03,680 So they move into this very old manner in England, 123 00:07:03,850 --> 00:07:06,510 and they discover that there's a room 124 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,510 that the workers won't renovate because they say it's hunted. 125 00:07:11,690 --> 00:07:13,250 What they find out is that these ancient walls 126 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:16,130 have actually recorded the sounds 127 00:07:16,300 --> 00:07:17,740 that have accrued over the years, 128 00:07:17,910 --> 00:07:21,480 usually of some terrifically horrible event. 129 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,310 It must act like a recording, fixed 130 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,750 in the floor and the walls. 131 00:07:26,830 --> 00:07:28,920 Right in the substance of them a trace of what happened in there, 132 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:31,490 and we pick it up. 133 00:07:31,530 --> 00:07:33,750 We act as detectors, decoders, amplifiers. 134 00:07:33,930 --> 00:07:35,490 A recording? 135 00:07:35,670 --> 00:07:38,100 It would have to be in the stones. 136 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,020 Carolyn: That idea of the stones themselves, of the material 137 00:07:41,060 --> 00:07:44,020 of the walls themselves storing events is something 138 00:07:44,150 --> 00:07:47,940 that has been adopted into proper parapsychology, 139 00:07:47,980 --> 00:07:51,160 what nowadays is referred to as the stone tape theory. 140 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,510 It's a mass of data 141 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,990 waiting for a correct interpretation. 142 00:07:56,170 --> 00:07:59,650 No one's ever managed it before. I think we might. 143 00:07:59,820 --> 00:08:02,430 The team is led by an egomaniac misogynist, 144 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,910 and there is a woman... 145 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,130 Oh, my Jilly. You're a very female one. 146 00:08:07,180 --> 00:08:10,090 ...who is the smartest person in the room, played by Jane Asher, 147 00:08:10,140 --> 00:08:12,180 but nobody takes her seriously. 148 00:08:12,310 --> 00:08:14,100 She's lightly psychic. 149 00:08:16,530 --> 00:08:17,840 Sayenga: So essentially, 150 00:08:18,410 --> 00:08:20,710 her boss uses this woman as a conduit to try 151 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,720 to listen to this room to find out what's going on, 152 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,760 basically, because they want to monetize it. 153 00:08:25,940 --> 00:08:28,550 It's going to be hours, all hours. 154 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,680 Television without the TV set, no box, 155 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,990 not even a visor in front of the eyes. 156 00:08:33,030 --> 00:08:35,680 The deeper they probe, the more they discover 157 00:08:35,810 --> 00:08:38,420 that the initial trauma goes much deeper 158 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:40,520 and much farther back... 159 00:08:40,690 --> 00:08:42,170 Man: Those walls are lot older than the rest of the house. 160 00:08:42,210 --> 00:08:44,080 In fact, they must have been knocked down and rebuilt 161 00:08:44,130 --> 00:08:45,740 and generally messed around a lot in the last thousand years. 162 00:08:45,870 --> 00:08:47,960 What? 163 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,610 Oh, yes, the foundations might be Saxon. 164 00:08:49,740 --> 00:08:50,870 Saxon? 165 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,620 ...into something truly evil. 166 00:08:53,790 --> 00:08:57,400 There was something about an exorcism once. 167 00:08:57,580 --> 00:08:59,400 Exorcism? 168 00:09:00,230 --> 00:09:03,710 Sayenga: Something very far in our past where you don't want to go. 169 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,850 How far are you trying to go back? 170 00:09:07,020 --> 00:09:08,240 A long way. 171 00:09:10,940 --> 00:09:11,890 Thompson: It's really spooky, 172 00:09:13,290 --> 00:09:14,550 and the fact that it's shot on tape kind of works in his favor. 173 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,640 There's something about the quality of that tape stock 174 00:09:16,680 --> 00:09:18,770 in the cameras they use back then. 175 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:20,030 It gives it, like, a weird kind of "you are there" 176 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,860 quality to it. 177 00:09:22,030 --> 00:09:23,300 I almost feels like a documentary from hell. 178 00:09:23,340 --> 00:09:25,390 She's gone. 179 00:09:25,430 --> 00:09:27,340 Kneale is talking about the embrace 180 00:09:27,390 --> 00:09:29,480 of technology driven by greed... 181 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,480 If you want to be millionaires, 182 00:09:31,650 --> 00:09:33,130 it's a crash program. Find the medium. 183 00:09:33,260 --> 00:09:35,050 Everything else follows. 184 00:09:35,090 --> 00:09:37,140 ...before you've actually explored the technology 185 00:09:37,180 --> 00:09:38,530 and seen side effects. 186 00:09:38,570 --> 00:09:40,270 Do you know what he's done? 187 00:09:40,310 --> 00:09:42,400 He's wiped the tape. 188 00:09:42,450 --> 00:09:44,540 It's in the computer! 189 00:09:44,580 --> 00:09:45,620 Sayenga: Which of course, 190 00:09:46,490 --> 00:09:47,450 we're currently seeing with social media 191 00:09:47,630 --> 00:09:49,760 and artificial intelligence. 192 00:09:55,500 --> 00:09:56,980 Thompson: We've had a lot of "Exorcist" knockoffs over the years 193 00:09:57,030 --> 00:09:59,290 since 1973, 194 00:09:59,330 --> 00:10:01,420 and if you thought that that had been exhausted beyond salvaging, 195 00:10:01,470 --> 00:10:03,290 there is one real gem in the bunch, 196 00:10:03,340 --> 00:10:04,690 but, unfortunately, very few people have actually seen it 197 00:10:04,820 --> 00:10:07,950 and that is "The Blackcoat's Daughter". 198 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,910 And it's one of those movies that I love to recommend, 199 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,080 but the problem is you can't describe it too much 200 00:10:11,130 --> 00:10:12,430 without spoiling it. 201 00:10:12,610 --> 00:10:14,610 So I urge you to just check it out, 202 00:10:14,740 --> 00:10:15,610 try to avoid reading about it as much as possible 203 00:10:15,700 --> 00:10:17,960 because it's very twisty. 204 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,440 It's really haunting, beautiful, very sad film. 205 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,750 It takes place at a boarding school in the middle of winter, 206 00:10:23,790 --> 00:10:26,840 and most of the girls are going home for winter break, 207 00:10:26,970 --> 00:10:32,630 except one girl, Rose, who is going to stay behind 208 00:10:32,670 --> 00:10:36,330 because she wants to meet up with a guy. 209 00:10:36,500 --> 00:10:39,980 And then another girl, Katherine, 210 00:10:40,030 --> 00:10:41,900 she is waiting for her parents to pick her up, 211 00:10:41,940 --> 00:10:44,070 but they never come. 212 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,900 Meanwhile, there's a character, Joan, who's at rest stops. 213 00:10:46,950 --> 00:10:48,340 Man: Hey, can we give you a lift somewhere? 214 00:10:48,380 --> 00:10:50,860 You've got to be freezing. 215 00:10:50,910 --> 00:10:52,210 I'm parked right over there. My wife's waiting in the car. 216 00:10:52,390 --> 00:10:53,870 See? Right there. 217 00:10:53,910 --> 00:10:58,700 And she hitches a ride with this couple. 218 00:10:58,740 --> 00:11:01,260 And you slowly start to discover 219 00:11:01,310 --> 00:11:03,700 how these two stories are connected. 220 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,880 Zimmerman: And it has a strange structure, 221 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,490 and it has a twist that I think a lot of people 222 00:11:08,530 --> 00:11:10,360 have a hard time getting on board with, 223 00:11:10,530 --> 00:11:11,670 which in some ways, I understand, 224 00:11:11,710 --> 00:11:13,840 but in a lot of ways, 225 00:11:13,970 --> 00:11:15,320 I think if you just lend yourself to it 226 00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:17,890 and you meet a movie halfway, 227 00:11:17,930 --> 00:11:20,280 you come away with a really great experience. 228 00:11:22,850 --> 00:11:24,550 Because I don't know if we've ever seen a movie 229 00:11:24,590 --> 00:11:28,200 where the ultimate goal of the main character 230 00:11:28,380 --> 00:11:31,510 is to be rejoined with their demonic possessor. 231 00:11:31,690 --> 00:11:34,470 Demon: You will stay here with me. 232 00:11:34,650 --> 00:11:37,780 Thompson: What if the person who was possessed loved it 233 00:11:37,950 --> 00:11:39,910 and that if they were no longer possessed... 234 00:11:40,090 --> 00:11:43,570 Don't go. 235 00:11:43,610 --> 00:11:45,700 ...what would they do to get that back? 236 00:11:45,870 --> 00:11:49,660 Wexler: It talks about grieving and dealing with death 237 00:11:49,830 --> 00:11:54,580 through demonic tropes, which I appreciate. 238 00:11:54,620 --> 00:11:57,060 I love when you can embrace horror tropes... 239 00:11:57,100 --> 00:12:00,240 Get your hands off me, cunt. 240 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,240 ...and talk about something really serious and really human. 241 00:12:04,410 --> 00:12:05,980 Thompson: It was directed by Osgood Perkins, 242 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,720 who is the son of Anthony Perkins. 243 00:12:07,770 --> 00:12:09,110 He's a really visually gifted director, 244 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:10,590 and this just has some images in it 245 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,640 that will just stick in your head. 246 00:12:12,680 --> 00:12:15,730 Oz Perkins, in general, is a hidden gem director. 247 00:12:15,860 --> 00:12:17,430 I think it's not just "The Blackcoat's Daughter". 248 00:12:17,470 --> 00:12:19,390 I think it's "Gretel & Hansel", 249 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:21,260 and I think it's especially 250 00:12:21,300 --> 00:12:22,080 "I Am the Pretty Thing That Lives in the House", 251 00:12:22,130 --> 00:12:24,520 which I love a lot. 252 00:12:24,650 --> 00:12:28,000 It feels very influenced by Shirley Jackson, and Ruth Wilson 253 00:12:28,130 --> 00:12:31,700 essentially plays a ghost alone in a home, 254 00:12:31,830 --> 00:12:35,050 sort of starting to realize her predicament. 255 00:12:35,180 --> 00:12:38,620 And that's another, like, Sunday afternoon 256 00:12:38,710 --> 00:12:39,670 with a tea kind of movie, 257 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,800 'cause it's cozy, 258 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,190 but it's downbeat and not full of scares, 259 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,330 but when it builds you up to what is going to frighten you, 260 00:12:48,370 --> 00:12:49,850 it works in a really big way, 261 00:12:50,030 --> 00:12:52,070 and it's so difficult for a movie to do that. 262 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,030 It's so difficult for a slow burn to achieve that explosion. 263 00:12:56,900 --> 00:12:57,900 But "I Am the Pretty Thing That Lives in House" 264 00:12:58,420 --> 00:12:59,820 feels completely forgotten at this point. 265 00:13:14,270 --> 00:13:17,140 Walter: My recurring dream sent to me as a warning, 266 00:13:17,180 --> 00:13:18,840 a warning against the terror 267 00:13:18,970 --> 00:13:20,930 that's waiting for me in this house. 268 00:13:21,060 --> 00:13:23,450 It's later on. We're having drinks. 269 00:13:23,620 --> 00:13:25,450 You break those glasses of yours. 270 00:13:25,540 --> 00:13:26,840 Then, the room goes dark. 271 00:13:27,020 --> 00:13:30,890 That's where my dream becomes a nightmare. 272 00:13:31,070 --> 00:13:32,590 It's started. 273 00:13:35,460 --> 00:13:37,290 Man: 274 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,430 Why should I want to kill you? 275 00:13:55,310 --> 00:13:58,480 And this machine only affects microbes and insects. 276 00:13:58,570 --> 00:14:00,180 It has no effect on humans. 277 00:14:00,230 --> 00:14:01,840 Sergeant. 278 00:14:02,010 --> 00:14:03,660 There are dead people trying to kill me. 279 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,630 Woman: They're coming here. 280 00:14:13,670 --> 00:14:16,330 They're waiting at the edge of the city. 281 00:14:16,370 --> 00:14:20,550 They're waiting for you and they'll take you one by one, 282 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,900 and no one will hear you scream! 283 00:14:27,770 --> 00:14:30,730 Here are three movies, 284 00:14:30,820 --> 00:14:33,000 if you're having a party, 285 00:14:33,130 --> 00:14:36,440 put these movies on with no sound 286 00:14:36,610 --> 00:14:38,870 and just let them play. 287 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,050 "Planet of Vampires"... 288 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,230 ..."2001"... 289 00:14:52,580 --> 00:14:54,190 ...and a movie 290 00:14:54,370 --> 00:15:00,330 that's often mentioned in the same breath as "2001", 291 00:15:00,370 --> 00:15:03,110 "War of the Gargantuas". 292 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,820 But just to have on at a party with no sound, 293 00:15:09,950 --> 00:15:11,470 you're not going to go wrong. 294 00:15:12,730 --> 00:15:14,130 Man: "War of the Gargantuas", 295 00:15:14,170 --> 00:15:15,910 those scenes at night 296 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,390 and they're being chased by a spotlight, 297 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,830 they're beautiful. 298 00:15:21,790 --> 00:15:23,700 Dougherty: "War of the Gargantuas" messed me up 299 00:15:23,830 --> 00:15:25,830 in all the best ways as a kid. 300 00:15:26,010 --> 00:15:29,360 "Gargantuas" wasn't shown on cable as often 301 00:15:29,530 --> 00:15:32,190 as other kaiju movies were or as often 302 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,150 as other American giant monster movies were shown. 303 00:15:35,230 --> 00:15:36,970 It was sort of a very rare treat. 304 00:15:37,150 --> 00:15:39,240 But when it came on, 305 00:15:39,410 --> 00:15:42,070 I thought it was going to be like "Mighty Joe Young" 306 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,980 or any of the other ones, 307 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,330 which had a certain kid appeal to them. 308 00:15:49,070 --> 00:15:52,080 But that movie wasn't pulling any punches. 309 00:15:55,730 --> 00:15:57,780 There's a key scene 310 00:15:57,820 --> 00:16:00,960 where the Gargantuas are sort of fighting 311 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,780 over a certain character. 312 00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:16,450 And things don't go well. 313 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,850 It just gave me nightmares 314 00:16:23,020 --> 00:16:27,240 because their design is vaguely human, you know, 315 00:16:27,290 --> 00:16:29,070 sort of like Kong, 316 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,460 but they're in this sort of uncanny valley. 317 00:16:35,030 --> 00:16:38,910 The visual look of those mid-'60s 318 00:16:38,950 --> 00:16:42,260 Toho films -- "War of the Gargantuas", "Monster Zero" -- 319 00:16:44,300 --> 00:16:51,010 It's just gorgeous. The backdrop paintings. 320 00:16:51,090 --> 00:16:53,830 The obvious model work. 321 00:16:56,580 --> 00:17:02,540 There's just something really visually arresting about it. 322 00:17:02,670 --> 00:17:05,280 A lot of really famous people love that movie. 323 00:17:05,450 --> 00:17:06,540 Brad Pitt loves it. 324 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,410 At the end of it, 325 00:17:08,460 --> 00:17:12,460 the good Gargantua had to sacrifice himself 326 00:17:12,550 --> 00:17:17,550 to defeat the bad Gargantua. 327 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,080 Tim Burton loves it. 328 00:17:19,250 --> 00:17:23,170 It's kind of a struggle between two Gargantuas. 329 00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:27,950 They're like, "Yeah. Of course. It's great. 330 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,170 It's 'War of the Gargantuas'." 331 00:17:40,660 --> 00:17:43,840 How do you like the land of the Northern Lights? 332 00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:52,500 "Rare Exports" is my favorite Christmas movie. 333 00:17:52,540 --> 00:17:54,720 It's a great double feature with "Gremlins" 334 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,640 because it is a great Christmas horror movie 335 00:17:56,770 --> 00:18:01,210 that somehow manages to be scary but fun at the same time. 336 00:18:01,340 --> 00:18:03,640 It all takes place in Finland, 337 00:18:03,690 --> 00:18:06,300 and there's this excavation going on in this huge mound 338 00:18:06,430 --> 00:18:07,990 nearby. 339 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,560 Leading up to Christmas, 340 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,300 everyone starts to see this kind of weird Santa Claus type of guy 341 00:18:13,390 --> 00:18:15,350 hanging around and being real creepy. 342 00:18:28,410 --> 00:18:30,630 Rodrigues: And what you realize is that what we know is 343 00:18:30,670 --> 00:18:33,540 Santa Claus 344 00:18:33,630 --> 00:18:34,720 are actually the elves. 345 00:18:38,070 --> 00:18:40,680 They're protecting their master. 346 00:18:40,810 --> 00:18:43,990 And what they are digging out of that excavation site 347 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,160 is what Santa Claus truly is, 348 00:18:46,290 --> 00:18:49,120 which is -- Santa Claus is Krampus 349 00:18:49,250 --> 00:18:53,480 and he is this big demonic thing that will steal children. 350 00:18:53,650 --> 00:18:56,430 Salisbury: It's told through the eyes of this little kid. 351 00:18:56,570 --> 00:18:59,000 You know, and he treats it like a kid does. 352 00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:01,050 The sense of the danger is there, 353 00:19:01,220 --> 00:19:02,960 but the sense of exploration is also there, 354 00:19:03,090 --> 00:19:04,920 and then trying to convince people 355 00:19:05,010 --> 00:19:07,970 that he knows what he knows. 356 00:19:12,450 --> 00:19:14,580 This is another one of these isolation spaces 357 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,020 of being trapped in this wonderland 358 00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:19,070 that anything else would be beautiful, 359 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,280 but you're looking at it, and you're going, "Well, 360 00:19:20,420 --> 00:19:22,110 where do you run? 361 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,070 Where do you hide? You leave footprints. 362 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,420 These things can sniff you out." 363 00:19:26,460 --> 00:19:28,250 It's a classic Christmas movie. 364 00:19:28,380 --> 00:19:30,510 I think anyone who likes that kind of, like, 365 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,210 weird kind of Christmas horror stuff should watch it. 366 00:19:33,380 --> 00:19:38,520 It's Christmas time. So let's act like it. 367 00:19:44,790 --> 00:19:49,790 Holy blood! Blood! Holy blood! 368 00:19:51,660 --> 00:19:53,580 "Santa Sangre" is definitely one 369 00:19:53,620 --> 00:19:55,840 of those classic cult movies that you go, 370 00:19:55,970 --> 00:19:59,580 "What did I just watch?" 371 00:20:02,890 --> 00:20:04,680 It is so weird. 372 00:20:04,850 --> 00:20:09,070 Kill her. Kill her. 373 00:20:09,250 --> 00:20:10,990 Did you hear her? 374 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,120 She wants me to kill you with my hands. 375 00:20:14,250 --> 00:20:17,430 I love the fact that it takes place in Mexico City... 376 00:20:19,950 --> 00:20:22,040 ...in this circus of freaks. 377 00:20:25,870 --> 00:20:27,960 And already, Mexico City is full of freaks. 378 00:20:28,090 --> 00:20:32,270 I mean, look at me, right? That's where we all came from. 379 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:37,190 Guerrero: You start in the setting that is so weird 380 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,670 and definitely not an okay place for a child, 381 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,110 and you meet your lead characters 382 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,760 that are two little kids, 383 00:20:45,890 --> 00:20:48,150 this little boy that is put in a situation 384 00:20:48,330 --> 00:20:50,900 with what is the most dysfunctional, 385 00:20:51,070 --> 00:20:53,900 abusive father-mother relationship out there. 386 00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:55,990 It's really scary. 387 00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:59,780 Get up, you bastard! 388 00:20:59,910 --> 00:21:04,000 This movie was not afraid to cross every type of boundary 389 00:21:04,130 --> 00:21:06,040 there is out there. 390 00:21:06,220 --> 00:21:09,830 Woman: 391 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,700 Guerrero: You get to see how this boy, now a man, will do anything 392 00:21:14,790 --> 00:21:17,140 his crazy mother will tell him. 393 00:21:17,230 --> 00:21:21,880 This girl has defied you with her lust. 394 00:21:21,930 --> 00:21:24,410 No, Mommy, it's not true. It's only a game. 395 00:21:24,540 --> 00:21:26,410 Guerrero: That to me, 396 00:21:26,540 --> 00:21:29,670 just talked so much about abusive relationships. 397 00:21:34,940 --> 00:21:37,730 Just talked so much about childhood trauma. 398 00:21:37,770 --> 00:21:41,340 Now you're a man. Just like me. 399 00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:47,430 So it's a movie that's artsy, that's weird, 400 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,780 that's gory and just incredibly memorable for it. 401 00:21:50,910 --> 00:21:51,910 It's weird. 402 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,530 Forgive me. 403 00:21:58,570 --> 00:22:01,710 Please forgive me. 404 00:22:18,850 --> 00:22:20,680 Zimmerman: "The Untamed is an incredible film from Mexico 405 00:22:20,810 --> 00:22:22,860 by Amat Escalante 406 00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:25,820 that feels directly in conversation with "Possession" 407 00:22:25,860 --> 00:22:29,560 and sort of the ecstasy of beastly cosmic alien sex. 408 00:22:33,090 --> 00:22:36,090 Bonilla: A married woman, Alejanda, is having a lot of issues 409 00:22:36,220 --> 00:22:37,480 within her marriage. 410 00:22:41,310 --> 00:22:43,920 And she comes across, through a friend, 411 00:22:44,050 --> 00:22:47,930 this creature who can only give pleasure. 412 00:22:50,970 --> 00:22:53,540 Then she starts to become obsessed with this pleasure. 413 00:22:56,020 --> 00:22:58,500 Because everything in her life is falling apart. 414 00:22:58,630 --> 00:23:00,640 She's dealing with a spouse who's abusive, 415 00:23:00,770 --> 00:23:05,160 but also cheating on her with her brother. 416 00:23:05,290 --> 00:23:07,290 Very telenovela here. 417 00:23:07,470 --> 00:23:10,210 But there's a lot of pain in her life. 418 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,820 A lot of dissatisfaction, 419 00:23:13,870 --> 00:23:18,390 and she's dealing with a lot of machismo or sexism 420 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,090 within her community through traditional gender roles 421 00:23:21,220 --> 00:23:22,220 and traditional views. 422 00:23:25,310 --> 00:23:27,180 Zimmerman: It really marries these tones of 423 00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:28,530 really heavy domestic drama... 424 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,930 ...and small town life, and, you know, 425 00:23:39,020 --> 00:23:41,240 families and couples who have a lot of interpersonal conflict. 426 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,110 And then this alien 427 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,810 that has taken up residence in an isolated farmhouse 428 00:23:48,940 --> 00:23:51,900 that gives people kind of sexual pleasure beyond measure. 429 00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:56,820 So as she becomes more attached to the creature, 430 00:23:56,950 --> 00:24:00,740 she starts to rebel against these social norms that have, 431 00:24:00,830 --> 00:24:03,440 like, restrained her, especially in a small village. 432 00:24:07,790 --> 00:24:10,570 But also the creature that supposedly only 433 00:24:10,750 --> 00:24:14,230 gives pleasure starts to kill and to hurt. 434 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,060 It's one of kind. 435 00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:30,120 It'd take an army if mice to do that. 436 00:24:30,290 --> 00:24:32,900 -Maybe it's a rat. -A rat? 437 00:24:33,030 --> 00:24:34,950 Bart: In some countries, they serve it as a delicacy, 438 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,040 like chocolate covered bees or caviar. 439 00:24:39,210 --> 00:24:40,600 A filthy rat on fine china. 440 00:25:15,380 --> 00:25:18,340 Woman: You never left your house! 441 00:25:19,730 --> 00:25:21,520 You must do this alone. 442 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,130 Man: And where would you go? 443 00:25:24,260 --> 00:25:26,080 Woman: Free. 444 00:25:26,170 --> 00:25:27,350 Shh. 445 00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:46,100 Hill: "Trollhunter" is another great found footage film. 446 00:25:46,150 --> 00:25:48,110 Thomas! 447 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,020 People have been able to take that found footage structure 448 00:25:51,150 --> 00:25:52,940 and keep it fresh and keep it exciting. 449 00:25:55,810 --> 00:25:58,160 And it really works well as humor. 450 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,520 Andre Overdal knows tone like nobody's business. 451 00:26:07,650 --> 00:26:10,910 He knows how to create a world and a reality that 452 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,790 from the first frame all the way to the last, you believe. 453 00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:19,620 So, in "Trollhunter", five, 454 00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:23,490 10 minutes into the film, you get lost. 455 00:26:23,620 --> 00:26:25,450 You just are sure that this is something 456 00:26:25,540 --> 00:26:27,060 that could be found footage. 457 00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:28,230 You absolutely believe it. 458 00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:30,500 It's so well executed. 459 00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:33,110 It gets these nosy documentary folks 460 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,020 who want to follow behind this guy who is dead serious, 461 00:26:36,150 --> 00:26:38,590 who is telling them from the jump, "This is serious business. 462 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,460 You could die," and they're laughing at it 463 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,770 and they think and he's nuts. 464 00:26:51,210 --> 00:26:54,430 And then they're stuck on it when they really get to see it. 465 00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:59,090 And then it's not only, you know, this one kind of troll. 466 00:26:59,220 --> 00:27:02,620 It's an entire troll, you know, classification. 467 00:27:02,750 --> 00:27:06,180 Not like smaller trolls like we would see, 468 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,670 but these massive, huge beasts of folklore and legend. 469 00:27:11,450 --> 00:27:14,110 The way that we see them portrayed in the film 470 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,330 is this great combination of what we would imagine 471 00:27:18,460 --> 00:27:20,370 a charming illustration of, like, 472 00:27:20,550 --> 00:27:22,980 a fantasy-esque troll would be 473 00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:26,120 and the worst possible reality of what that could be. 474 00:27:26,290 --> 00:27:29,250 They are huge, drooling, disgusting messes. 475 00:27:32,730 --> 00:27:35,130 This film does an amazing job making 476 00:27:35,260 --> 00:27:36,780 these creatures seem real. 477 00:27:49,140 --> 00:27:51,930 Man: You've seen things that have yet to happen. 478 00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:55,800 You had a premonition. 479 00:27:59,150 --> 00:28:01,760 You saw into the future. 480 00:28:01,890 --> 00:28:04,940 Sher: Before he made his famous gore-fests, 481 00:28:04,980 --> 00:28:08,160 Lucio Fulci was an amazingly accomplished filmmaker 482 00:28:08,330 --> 00:28:10,470 in many genres, 483 00:28:10,510 --> 00:28:13,820 and he made some really, really fabulous thrillers. 484 00:28:13,860 --> 00:28:16,340 One of the very best is "The Psychic", 485 00:28:16,430 --> 00:28:19,170 where Jennifer O'Neill plays a wealthy woman 486 00:28:19,210 --> 00:28:21,960 whose diplomat husband is away for the weekend. 487 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,090 She's living in this kind of gorgeous villa, 488 00:28:25,260 --> 00:28:29,440 and she starts having visions of a mysterious room 489 00:28:29,570 --> 00:28:31,710 that she's never seen before 490 00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:35,670 where she believes some kind of murder has taken place. 491 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,190 And she becomes obsessed with finding out what are 492 00:28:39,230 --> 00:28:41,370 these visions about and solving this murder 493 00:28:41,540 --> 00:28:43,410 that she believes that she's seen. 494 00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:46,200 Darling, why don't you forget this ugly story? 495 00:28:46,330 --> 00:28:48,370 I can't. 496 00:28:48,460 --> 00:28:49,980 But the fact that it isn't a Fulci gore-fest 497 00:28:50,030 --> 00:28:51,200 I think is what's kind of kept it under the radar. 498 00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:52,600 It isn't "Zombie". 499 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,770 It isn't "Gates of Hell". 500 00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:55,120 You know, it isn't "House by the Cemetery". 501 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,340 Not much blood in this movie. 502 00:28:56,380 --> 00:28:58,300 It's not particularly violent, 503 00:28:58,340 --> 00:28:59,650 really, but it has a very sort of Edgar Allan Poe 504 00:28:59,690 --> 00:29:01,690 kind of feel to it. 505 00:29:01,870 --> 00:29:03,740 It involves someone being walled up alive. 506 00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:06,170 Say no more than that. 507 00:29:06,220 --> 00:29:08,440 Man: So you came here today for the first time. 508 00:29:08,610 --> 00:29:10,610 And the first thing 509 00:29:10,740 --> 00:29:12,220 you do is grab the pickaxe, 510 00:29:12,270 --> 00:29:14,440 smash in the first wall you come to, 511 00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:16,880 and find a skeleton. 512 00:29:17,010 --> 00:29:19,450 I know it sounds ridiculous to you. 513 00:29:19,490 --> 00:29:21,100 But I'm telling the truth. 514 00:29:21,230 --> 00:29:25,280 I love "The Psychic" because it is so lush. 515 00:29:25,410 --> 00:29:27,370 The costumes are luxurious. 516 00:29:27,410 --> 00:29:29,940 The set design is beautiful. 517 00:29:30,110 --> 00:29:33,290 And it has this very kind of sophisticated feel 518 00:29:33,460 --> 00:29:35,680 for a murder mystery. 519 00:29:35,860 --> 00:29:37,640 But then Jennifer Neill's visions 520 00:29:37,770 --> 00:29:41,470 are very trippy and '70s. 521 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,040 And I love that juxtaposition of kind of timeless sophistication 522 00:29:45,210 --> 00:29:48,830 with very, very '70s stylistic conventions. 523 00:29:52,130 --> 00:29:53,610 It's one that really kind of sticks with you. 524 00:29:53,660 --> 00:29:56,140 And, of course, it has this little watch theme. 525 00:29:56,180 --> 00:29:57,700 Listen. 526 00:30:07,060 --> 00:30:09,020 There's a central musical motif in it 527 00:30:09,060 --> 00:30:10,980 that later became used in "Kill Bill: Volume 1". 528 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,980 Aah! 529 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,720 If nothing else, everybody knows that piece of music. 530 00:30:16,770 --> 00:30:18,250 So -- But go see the movie that it came from, really. 531 00:30:18,290 --> 00:30:19,200 It's worth it. 532 00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:25,910 How do you spell that word, "psychotic"? 533 00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:28,340 You might have to spell it M-U-R-D-E-R, murder, 534 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,520 if you don't get someone over there quickly. 535 00:30:30,690 --> 00:30:32,130 Berger: Peter Collinson 536 00:30:32,260 --> 00:30:34,310 was a director who the last thing 537 00:30:34,350 --> 00:30:36,180 you expected him to do was going to be something 538 00:30:36,350 --> 00:30:37,660 in the horror genre. 539 00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:39,310 He did "The Italian Job"... 540 00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:41,570 Well, look happy, you stupid bastards. 541 00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:45,400 ...which is a lightweight kind of fun, pop British 542 00:30:45,450 --> 00:30:47,750 comic heist movie. 543 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,500 And he suddenly took a really interesting sort of left turn 544 00:30:51,630 --> 00:30:53,540 with some people from Hammer 545 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,200 who had tried to form their own company, 546 00:30:56,370 --> 00:30:59,240 and he made a movie with Susan George called "Fright". 547 00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:04,680 It is probably the very first time 548 00:31:04,730 --> 00:31:11,340 I remember seeing a movie about a killer stalking a babysitter. 549 00:31:11,470 --> 00:31:19,610 This was, like, 1971, and it is crap-spurt scary movie. 550 00:31:21,740 --> 00:31:23,440 No two ways about it. 551 00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:27,400 Critically destroyed when it came out, of course. 552 00:31:27,580 --> 00:31:29,530 Back then, you thought you had to be entertained 553 00:31:29,710 --> 00:31:32,230 in the conventional way, 554 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:39,070 and no one was prepared for the sheer downbeat moral obfuscation 555 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,420 that Peter Collinson wanted to throw on his audience, 556 00:31:42,550 --> 00:31:44,640 even in a pop horror movie. 557 00:31:46,730 --> 00:31:47,730 The first half of that movie 558 00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:50,990 exploits everything you can imagine 559 00:31:51,170 --> 00:31:54,120 that, you know, has been retread again in very clever ways with, 560 00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:56,470 of course, 561 00:31:56,650 --> 00:32:01,350 "Halloween" and 100 other films in the ten years after that. 562 00:32:01,390 --> 00:32:04,270 But this movie really got it down. 563 00:32:04,350 --> 00:32:06,790 Please. 564 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,050 There are some very, very disturbing things. 565 00:32:09,230 --> 00:32:11,100 You try moving again, you try, 566 00:32:11,140 --> 00:32:13,930 and I'll be forced to attack. 567 00:32:13,970 --> 00:32:15,890 I'll kill you and I'll cut you! 568 00:32:15,930 --> 00:32:17,800 And it attacks relationships. 569 00:32:17,890 --> 00:32:18,980 She's absolutely bloody impossible sometimes. 570 00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:20,500 I can't tell you. 571 00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:22,590 You're just annoyed with yourself, 572 00:32:22,670 --> 00:32:23,500 'cause you know you wanted it, so you're taking it out on me. 573 00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:25,370 I said get out. 574 00:32:25,550 --> 00:32:29,250 It attacks the idea of family. 575 00:32:29,380 --> 00:32:32,860 Why do you hate me?! Why, why why?! 576 00:32:33,030 --> 00:32:35,380 And it has a perverse sympathetic concern 577 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,080 for the people who are the assailants. 578 00:32:39,260 --> 00:32:44,310 Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. 579 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,220 ...as well as the victims 580 00:32:46,260 --> 00:32:50,270 and how easy they can switch modes. 581 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,660 You try it and I'll kill these two! 582 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,530 Are you listening?! Both of them! 583 00:32:56,580 --> 00:32:57,840 He means it. 584 00:32:58,010 --> 00:33:01,020 Very clever film, really scary, 585 00:33:01,190 --> 00:33:04,930 and not an easy one to get over. 586 00:33:12,380 --> 00:33:14,470 Hi. I'm Emily. 587 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,290 I'm Jessica. 588 00:33:17,340 --> 00:33:18,640 Zimmerman: "Let's Scare Jessica to Death". 589 00:33:18,730 --> 00:33:20,560 That's a hidden gem in my mind, 590 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,780 because so many people knew the title. 591 00:33:21,860 --> 00:33:23,950 The title was instantly iconic, 592 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,910 but it languished in VHS for so long. 593 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,830 It didn't make a DVD debut until the mid 2000s. 594 00:33:29,870 --> 00:33:32,220 So we have a movie that I think people knew existed 595 00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:33,660 but never actually saw. 596 00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:37,710 Woman: Dreams or nightmares? 597 00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:40,620 Madness or sanity? 598 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,760 -I don't know which is which. 599 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,670 It's creepy. 600 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,070 It's unusual. 601 00:33:51,940 --> 00:33:53,070 Very effective movie. 602 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,290 Woman: You want to die. You want to die. 603 00:33:57,470 --> 00:33:59,340 It is one of the most essential horror films 604 00:33:59,470 --> 00:34:01,210 of the '70s, 605 00:34:01,380 --> 00:34:02,950 and maybe the preeminent example of a kind of 606 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,430 gauzy psychological horror subgenre, 607 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,260 these films that are defined by being isolated 608 00:34:08,350 --> 00:34:10,170 and paranoid and scary, 609 00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:11,040 and maybe there's something supernatural going on, 610 00:34:11,090 --> 00:34:12,390 but maybe there isn't. 611 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,700 He was lying right here. 612 00:34:14,740 --> 00:34:17,830 And the best of those movies ride the perfect line between. 613 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,580 -Where you folks going? -Other side of Brookfield. 614 00:34:20,620 --> 00:34:22,710 It's a farm on Cove Road called the Old Bishop Place. 615 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,320 Do you know it? 616 00:34:26,930 --> 00:34:28,320 Yes, I do. 617 00:34:29,110 --> 00:34:31,110 Niles: It's about this, I guess they're a hippie couple, 618 00:34:31,150 --> 00:34:32,980 and their friend. 619 00:34:33,020 --> 00:34:34,500 They drive around in a hearse. 620 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:37,330 It's cheaper than the station wagon. 621 00:34:37,460 --> 00:34:39,900 And really annoy everybody in this small town. 622 00:34:39,940 --> 00:34:42,380 -Damn hippies. -Creeps. 623 00:34:42,510 --> 00:34:44,420 Man: Good riddance. 624 00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:45,770 A lot of the themes of "Let's Scare Jessica to Death" 625 00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:47,520 are kind of the death of the hippie movement. 626 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,390 Hey, watch it. 627 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,870 Zimmerman: Or at least mourning what it promised. 628 00:34:53,910 --> 00:34:57,440 Woman: Jessica, why have you come here? 629 00:34:57,570 --> 00:35:01,010 The character, Jessica, just had a nervous breakdown. 630 00:35:01,140 --> 00:35:03,230 So she's trying to get her head back together. 631 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,230 Jessica: For the first time in months, I'm free. 632 00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:08,750 Forget the doctors. Forget that place. 633 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,060 I'm okay now. We'll start over. 634 00:35:12,190 --> 00:35:14,890 They find a drifter, a woman named Emily. 635 00:35:15,020 --> 00:35:17,760 I just found this place, and I thought it was abandoned, 636 00:35:17,850 --> 00:35:20,110 so I just sort of moved in. 637 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,380 Zimmerman: And over the course of this, 638 00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:25,550 Jessica is growing more paranoid, 639 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,600 more concerned that Emily is not who she says she is. 640 00:35:30,690 --> 00:35:32,300 Because there is the local legend of a woman named Abigail 641 00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:34,130 who drowned in the lake the day before her wedding. 642 00:35:34,210 --> 00:35:36,040 Looking at the picture, 643 00:35:36,090 --> 00:35:38,000 looks so much like you. 644 00:35:38,170 --> 00:35:40,050 My Lord, it does. 645 00:35:40,180 --> 00:35:43,920 Don't worry. I won't go away. 646 00:35:44,050 --> 00:35:46,270 And the townspeople say Abigail still roams the hills. 647 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,790 The legend is that she's still alive. 648 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,580 Some say she's a vampire. 649 00:35:50,620 --> 00:35:52,580 It's kind of a ghost. 650 00:35:52,670 --> 00:35:54,840 Woman: ...alive. I'm still alive. 651 00:35:54,970 --> 00:35:57,190 Kind of a vampire. 652 00:36:01,070 --> 00:36:03,680 Zimmerman: And it leads to this really incredible ambiguous ending of 653 00:36:03,810 --> 00:36:09,810 was Emily haunting things or was Jessica truly losing it? 654 00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:14,860 And she's left terrified, upset, stranded in a boat on the lake. 655 00:36:14,910 --> 00:36:17,210 It's what I like to call sad horror, which I love. 656 00:36:17,260 --> 00:36:18,870 Like, it's maybe my favorite genre. 657 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,390 It just kind of leaves you melancholy. 658 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:21,650 Leaves you a little haunted. 659 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,530 Boo! I bet that scared ya, didn't it? 660 00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:32,750 One of my favorite hidden gems is 1992's "Ghostwatch". 661 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,930 This is a faux documentary 662 00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:41,020 that purports to be investigating a haunted house 663 00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:42,060 on the outskirts of London. 664 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,590 Man: So welcome live 665 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:46,760 this Halloween night to the first ever TV "Ghostwatch". 666 00:36:46,900 --> 00:36:49,460 That's the house where it might all happen tonight, 667 00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:51,470 or it might not. We shall see. 668 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,510 It's one of the scariest films I've ever seen, 669 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,250 and every time I watch it, it scares me. 670 00:36:57,300 --> 00:36:59,210 -I don't know what's going on. 671 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,260 Don't leave me, Mum! 672 00:37:04,300 --> 00:37:06,870 The BBC had been hyping "Ghostwatch" for months 673 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,350 before it came out, 674 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,010 claiming that they were going to send in some 675 00:37:11,140 --> 00:37:13,570 of their actual on air talent 676 00:37:13,620 --> 00:37:16,270 to a haunted house on Halloween night. 677 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,320 It all began in here on December 28, 1991. 678 00:37:20,410 --> 00:37:22,410 What audiences didn't realize is that 679 00:37:22,540 --> 00:37:24,800 the entire special was actually a film directed 680 00:37:24,930 --> 00:37:26,760 by Leslie Manning, 681 00:37:26,890 --> 00:37:29,420 and it starred all of these BBC broadcasters. 682 00:37:31,590 --> 00:37:35,900 The program you're about to watch is a unique live investigation of the supernatural. 683 00:37:36,030 --> 00:37:38,900 Geoghegen: So here you've got the BBC's Michael Parkinson, 684 00:37:38,990 --> 00:37:42,390 someone that audiences implicitly trust, 685 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,210 and he is sitting there talking to all of Britain, 686 00:37:45,350 --> 00:37:48,170 explaining to them that this Halloween night, 687 00:37:48,350 --> 00:37:50,700 they will be heading into this haunted house 688 00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:53,700 to try to figure out the mystery of a ghost 689 00:37:53,790 --> 00:37:56,700 that is attacking this mother and her two daughters. 690 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,140 It starts out as a bit of a lark. 691 00:37:58,270 --> 00:37:59,840 You're watching and 692 00:37:59,970 --> 00:38:01,010 it's funny and the BBC talent interacting, 693 00:38:01,060 --> 00:38:02,580 and everyone's excited. 694 00:38:02,710 --> 00:38:04,060 Here, we have the thrill seekers. 695 00:38:04,190 --> 00:38:05,800 Pillars of the community 696 00:38:05,930 --> 00:38:08,020 all waiting to see if the ghost is going to arrive. 697 00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:09,590 Welcome to Fright Night. 698 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,630 But then it really skillfully 699 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,030 and slowly creates an atmosphere of dread. 700 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,290 I had this overwhelming sense of evil. Spiritual decay 701 00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:20,080 is the only way I can describe it as. 702 00:38:20,210 --> 00:38:22,950 -Who are you talking to? -Pipes. 703 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,860 Audiences start to notice a figure 704 00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:28,080 that appears in the background of the footage 705 00:38:28,210 --> 00:38:29,170 that they're watching. 706 00:38:29,350 --> 00:38:31,260 I don't have a cat. 707 00:38:31,390 --> 00:38:34,390 It turns out to be a ghost with the nickname Pipes. 708 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,010 He is the ultimate ghost. I love him. 709 00:38:38,140 --> 00:38:40,270 Pipes! Pipes! He got in! 710 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,320 Bonilla: As they're doing this investigation, 711 00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:45,580 they're trying to figure out, is it a fraud or is it real? 712 00:38:45,710 --> 00:38:46,880 These are disturbed detention stickers. 713 00:38:46,930 --> 00:38:48,670 Rubbish. 714 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,060 And it continues to be this debate 715 00:38:51,150 --> 00:38:53,500 where you have skeptics that are saying it's a bunch of garbage, 716 00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:57,460 but it also feels like it's a commentary on our media 717 00:38:57,590 --> 00:39:00,120 because of how easy a story can be spun 718 00:39:00,250 --> 00:39:01,380 to be believed or disbelieved. 719 00:39:01,510 --> 00:39:03,860 -Did you say that? -No, I didn't. 720 00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:06,470 Woman: In the end, they all made us look even more like idiots. 721 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,860 And as it goes on, it gets crazier and crazier. 722 00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:12,130 In Derby, 723 00:39:12,260 --> 00:39:14,130 someone was ringing to say that her clock had stopped. 724 00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:15,910 Get to bed. To your right. 725 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,480 Mr. Naro from Cheltenham 726 00:39:17,650 --> 00:39:19,660 says his son is making glasses break. 727 00:39:19,790 --> 00:39:20,790 I'm gonna go and get help, alright? 728 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,830 Oh, dear God. 729 00:39:24,270 --> 00:39:25,840 Equipment starts to malfunction. 730 00:39:25,970 --> 00:39:27,840 There's a haunted quality to the BBC set 731 00:39:27,970 --> 00:39:29,710 that starts to break down. 732 00:39:36,190 --> 00:39:38,550 People went nuts. 733 00:39:38,590 --> 00:39:40,290 It was what you wanted, wasn't it? 734 00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:42,900 We just gave you what you wanted. 735 00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:44,250 People lost their minds. 736 00:39:44,330 --> 00:39:46,510 They were calling the BBC. 737 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,080 They fielded thousands and thousands of complaint calls. 738 00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:52,080 A young man in Britain had committed suicide 739 00:39:52,210 --> 00:39:54,040 after watching it, 740 00:39:54,210 --> 00:39:56,080 claiming that "Ghostwatch" had proven 741 00:39:56,210 --> 00:39:57,610 that there was an after life, 742 00:39:57,690 --> 00:39:59,350 and he had nothing more to live for. 743 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,440 After the BBC was made aware of this tragedy, 744 00:40:01,570 --> 00:40:03,610 they put the lid on "Ghostwatch". 745 00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:05,400 It was never aired again. 746 00:40:05,490 --> 00:40:07,490 The BBC had washed their hands of it, 747 00:40:07,660 --> 00:40:10,140 but horror audiences had not. 748 00:40:10,270 --> 00:40:12,580 And it became this thing of legend. 749 00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:15,840 "Ghostwatch" is, to me, one of just the ultimate hidden gems, 750 00:40:15,970 --> 00:40:19,110 and it's the type of film that as soon as you see it, 751 00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:21,890 you want other people to see it. It's so creepy. 752 00:40:22,020 --> 00:40:24,110 It's so well made, 753 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,590 and the haunting past that it actually has in 754 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:29,470 both the real world and over the course of the production, 755 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,690 it just adds to how creepy it is. 756 00:40:33,690 --> 00:40:35,430 Man: Have we lost the link completely? 757 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,340 Boo! 758 00:40:51,490 --> 00:40:56,060 Hey, he's got a hand under there! 759 00:40:56,190 --> 00:40:58,190 Man: The only perversions that can be comfortably condemned 760 00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:58,890 are the perversions of others. 761 00:41:03,110 --> 00:41:06,550 Man: There is no ghost! 762 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:09,900 -I said drop the knife! 763 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,510 Man: The monsters are heading for the city center. 764 00:41:24,090 --> 00:41:25,480 Who are you?! 765 00:41:42,450 --> 00:41:44,930 I saw it like it was real. It wasn't a hallucination. 766 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,290 Woman: It's not real, Jessica. 767 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,170 Man: Right, do you think Mr. Pipes has come to hurt you? 768 00:42:01,340 --> 00:42:02,780 I think he's come to hurt everybody. 769 00:42:02,910 --> 00:42:04,650 I think he wants to do nasty things. 770 00:42:04,780 --> 00:42:06,560 -Pammy? 771 00:42:12,050 --> 00:42:16,180 So what are the essential horror film scores? 772 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,010 -You always hear the story 773 00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:19,840 that John Williams just played a couple notes. 774 00:42:20,010 --> 00:42:22,010 That's all it took. 775 00:42:22,190 --> 00:42:24,450 He's taken the most direct route with these kind of minimalist 776 00:42:24,620 --> 00:42:27,980 electronic scores. 777 00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:30,760 There's no way you can listen to that film score 778 00:42:30,930 --> 00:42:33,460 and not feel the violence behind it. 779 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,770 Hey. I'm okay. 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