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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,093 --> 00:00:14,431 [man speaks in Malay] I have been accused of selling our country's dignity. 2 00:00:15,682 --> 00:00:19,561 I have never sold Malaysia's dignity! 3 00:00:19,644 --> 00:00:21,312 [applause] 4 00:00:21,396 --> 00:00:23,773 I guarantee you. There are no problems. 5 00:00:24,149 --> 00:00:27,902 Not like the government today. 6 00:00:28,695 --> 00:00:33,324 They're willing to watch our fishermen lose their livelihood! 7 00:00:34,409 --> 00:00:38,038 How about public aid? Welfare? 8 00:00:38,121 --> 00:00:41,708 Home recovery aid? Scholarships? 9 00:00:44,044 --> 00:00:45,795 When they get power, 10 00:00:45,879 --> 00:00:48,006 they're just merciless, merciless, and merciless. 11 00:00:50,050 --> 00:00:53,678 This is why we must oppose the merciless government! 12 00:00:53,887 --> 00:00:55,430 [cheering] 13 00:00:55,513 --> 00:00:58,975 Our fight is one that is holy, pure! 14 00:00:59,267 --> 00:01:04,314 It will put our national race and religion on the stage of success, if Allah wills. 15 00:01:05,315 --> 00:01:10,487 -Long live UMNO! Long live UMNO! -Long live! Long live! Long live! 16 00:01:10,570 --> 00:01:15,366 -God is great! God is great! God is great! -Allah! Allah! Allah! 17 00:01:19,913 --> 00:01:21,748 [reporter 1] Former Prime Minister Najib Razak 18 00:01:21,831 --> 00:01:24,250 faced allegations surrounding billions of dollars 19 00:01:24,334 --> 00:01:27,128 that went missing from the state fund 1MDB. 20 00:01:27,212 --> 00:01:30,423 [reporter 2] Penang-born fugitive Jho Low transferred millions of dollars 21 00:01:30,507 --> 00:01:33,176 into ex-prime minister Najib Razak's account... 22 00:01:33,259 --> 00:01:36,679 [reporter 3] Laundered money was spent on Picassos, Van Goghs, and Monets, 23 00:01:36,763 --> 00:01:40,600 a 300-foot luxury yacht, the production Wolf of Wall Street-- 24 00:01:40,683 --> 00:01:42,644 [reporter 4] The brazenness, the money they stole. 25 00:01:42,727 --> 00:01:44,938 -Four and a half billion. -[reporter 5] ...mind boggling. 26 00:01:45,021 --> 00:01:48,608 [reporter 6] Najib has pleaded not guilty to corruption and breach of trust. 27 00:01:48,691 --> 00:01:51,820 Now he risks spending the rest of his life behind bars. 28 00:01:51,903 --> 00:01:55,198 [reporter 7] Najib has to paint himself as a drooling idiot 29 00:01:55,281 --> 00:01:57,992 who was hoodwinked by a 20-something-year-old, 30 00:01:58,827 --> 00:02:01,746 or he has to admit that he knew what was going on. 31 00:02:05,834 --> 00:02:08,837 [man] In a day-to-day schedule of running a country, 32 00:02:09,128 --> 00:02:11,381 it's impossible for you to look at details. 33 00:02:12,590 --> 00:02:15,760 And nothing whatsoever can be linked to me. 34 00:02:16,261 --> 00:02:17,470 It's all political. 35 00:02:19,931 --> 00:02:21,933 ["Lie, Cheat, Steal by Run the Jewels plays] 36 00:02:30,650 --> 00:02:34,988 ♪ Lie, cheat, steal, kill, win, win ♪ 37 00:02:35,071 --> 00:02:36,698 ♪ Everybody doin' it ♪ 38 00:02:36,781 --> 00:02:40,743 ♪ Lie, cheat, steal, kill, win, win ♪ 39 00:02:40,827 --> 00:02:42,370 ♪ Everybody doin' it ♪ 40 00:02:42,453 --> 00:02:45,999 ♪ Lie, cheat, steal, kill, win ♪ 41 00:03:10,023 --> 00:03:12,400 [engine chugging] 42 00:03:12,483 --> 00:03:13,943 [engine turns over] 43 00:03:20,575 --> 00:03:21,993 [in Malay] I'm a fisherman, I fish! 44 00:03:24,203 --> 00:03:26,706 We don't make much. Not much. 45 00:03:27,832 --> 00:03:28,791 Not much. 46 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:37,967 Fishing may not be a very esteemed career. 47 00:03:38,051 --> 00:03:42,096 However, I don't think it really matters at all.   48 00:03:42,889 --> 00:03:45,725 Life is a chain. Everyone's survival is interdependent. 49 00:03:47,435 --> 00:03:51,397 So when the economy is bad, it affects us. 50 00:03:51,898 --> 00:03:53,650 The economy is critical. 51 00:03:54,776 --> 00:03:56,778 [splashing, sloshing] 52 00:04:00,239 --> 00:04:02,283 [man 1 in Malay] Okay, the fish looks clean now. 53 00:04:02,742 --> 00:04:09,624 [man 2 in Malay] What we see in the papers is the government suffered losses. 54 00:04:11,501 --> 00:04:13,336 But we don't know how much. 55 00:04:13,503 --> 00:04:19,175 We can't know for sure if Najib took money from the people. 56 00:04:19,259 --> 00:04:22,845 We don't know where the money went or who gave it away. 57 00:04:23,221 --> 00:04:26,224 Whether Najib was right or wrong, only God will tell. 58 00:04:26,307 --> 00:04:27,684 [man speaking Mandarin] 59 00:04:28,685 --> 00:04:31,354 [man speaking Mandarin] 60 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,778 [man] Well, to his credit, I thought Najib had the right messaging. 61 00:04:39,362 --> 00:04:41,197 He was talking about reform, 62 00:04:41,572 --> 00:04:44,242 he was talking about propelling the economy, 63 00:04:44,867 --> 00:04:47,495 his concerns for the poor and inequality. 64 00:04:48,788 --> 00:04:51,749 [man 2] He was a very good minister in my cabinet. 65 00:04:52,083 --> 00:04:54,961 I was thinking that he would be, 66 00:04:55,044 --> 00:04:58,631 like his father was, the second prime minister of Malaysia, 67 00:04:58,923 --> 00:05:00,008 who did a great job. 68 00:05:01,342 --> 00:05:03,469 [Bin Ibrahim] Najib was a student in the UK. 69 00:05:03,553 --> 00:05:05,888 The father died and he was brought back, 70 00:05:06,264 --> 00:05:11,102 made a deputy minister, and rose through the ranks very fast. 71 00:05:11,728 --> 00:05:14,731 [man] Najib is regarded by people who know him 72 00:05:14,814 --> 00:05:17,525 as a fine Malay-English gentleman, 73 00:05:17,734 --> 00:05:20,069 because of his background, being educated in England 74 00:05:20,153 --> 00:05:22,030 and how he speaks very well. 75 00:05:22,113 --> 00:05:24,866 He's very engaging when he talks to you. 76 00:05:24,949 --> 00:05:27,243 I have some interest in tennis 77 00:05:27,327 --> 00:05:29,912 because, basically, my children love tennis, 78 00:05:30,288 --> 00:05:31,998 and they force me to watch tennis. 79 00:05:33,374 --> 00:05:35,960 [man] I think a lot of people in the West, and certainly in finance, 80 00:05:36,044 --> 00:05:39,047 breathed a sigh of relief because they felt Najib was 81 00:05:39,339 --> 00:05:40,965 someone who's gonna be easy to work with. 82 00:05:41,049 --> 00:05:43,718 You know, I have a very good relationship with Prime Minister Najib, 83 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:48,264 and we are close partners in cooperating on a whole host of issues. 84 00:05:48,347 --> 00:05:52,060 We have this expression in Malaysia called "Malaysia Boleh," 85 00:05:52,518 --> 00:05:54,729 which-- "Can do." "Yes we can." 86 00:05:54,812 --> 00:05:56,564 I think Obama learned from us. 87 00:05:56,647 --> 00:05:58,191 [audience laughing] 88 00:05:58,274 --> 00:06:00,151 Those people who are in the know 89 00:06:00,568 --> 00:06:04,030 knew that Rosmah is really the power behind Najib. 90 00:06:04,864 --> 00:06:08,159 Well, my husband loves to see me walking two steps behind him. 91 00:06:09,744 --> 00:06:13,831 [Bin Ibrahim] Rosmah is known to wield direct influence, 92 00:06:13,915 --> 00:06:15,708 not only meeting Najib, 93 00:06:15,792 --> 00:06:19,045 but meeting some other key government leaders. 94 00:06:19,504 --> 00:06:21,923 Unlike her husband, she had worked her way up. 95 00:06:22,465 --> 00:06:23,883 She was a player. 96 00:06:23,966 --> 00:06:26,886 I don't mind walking two steps behind. 97 00:06:26,969 --> 00:06:29,055 It makes him happy. But what's important, 98 00:06:29,305 --> 00:06:32,183 I get what I would like to get. 99 00:06:32,934 --> 00:06:35,019 So they came up with "One Malaysia." 100 00:06:36,187 --> 00:06:39,107 That means all of us, whatever race we are, we are one Malaysia. 101 00:06:39,190 --> 00:06:41,317 That was his political slogan. 102 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:48,324 -[Malay] One! One! One! -[in Malay] Malaysia! Malaysia! Malaysia! 103 00:06:51,077 --> 00:06:52,954 [Kay Tat] Najib took over as prime minister 104 00:06:53,037 --> 00:06:56,582 just as the global financial crisis was being sorted out. 105 00:06:57,208 --> 00:06:59,502 So he was really in a sweet spot.  Things were moving, 106 00:06:59,585 --> 00:07:02,505 the economy was going up, the stock market was going up. 107 00:07:03,381 --> 00:07:05,800 But then, unfortunately, 108 00:07:06,008 --> 00:07:07,343 he started 1MDB. 109 00:07:07,677 --> 00:07:09,595 I'm honored to welcome you 110 00:07:10,596 --> 00:07:11,681 to the future 111 00:07:12,265 --> 00:07:13,891 of our economic growth. 112 00:07:14,642 --> 00:07:17,645 [man] One Malaysia Development Berhad, 1MDB, 113 00:07:18,312 --> 00:07:22,984 was created to invest Malaysian tax payers' money overseas, 114 00:07:23,359 --> 00:07:27,071 generate huge returns, bring back foreign direct investments 115 00:07:27,238 --> 00:07:30,158 in order to spur Malaysia's economy. 116 00:07:30,825 --> 00:07:33,786 So, on the surface of it, sounds like a good idea. 117 00:07:35,288 --> 00:07:38,166 [Bin Mohamad] The budget has always been in deficit. 118 00:07:38,749 --> 00:07:40,877 Yet the government, at that time, 119 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,962 decided to have a wealth fund 120 00:07:43,421 --> 00:07:46,340 similar to those that you see in Kuwait 121 00:07:46,424 --> 00:07:50,011 and other rich, oil-producing countries. 122 00:07:50,553 --> 00:07:53,181 When we established 1MDB, 123 00:07:53,848 --> 00:07:56,142 we wanted to achieve our... 124 00:07:56,726 --> 00:08:01,147 vision of an advanced economy, high-income economy, 125 00:08:01,772 --> 00:08:04,025 because of the global downturn at that time. 126 00:08:04,692 --> 00:08:07,653 Only the countries in the Middle East had surplus capital, 127 00:08:07,737 --> 00:08:09,572 and we... 128 00:08:10,114 --> 00:08:14,160 wanted a kind of a special relationship with them. 129 00:08:15,411 --> 00:08:19,081 [man] Developing countries always need outside financing to build 130 00:08:19,165 --> 00:08:21,834 roads and airports, hospitals. 131 00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:25,963 That's what you want, theoretically, your sovereign wealth fund to be doing. 132 00:08:26,047 --> 00:08:29,508 You want it to be either making money or building infrastructure. 133 00:08:30,551 --> 00:08:32,053 [Pua] In 2009, 134 00:08:32,261 --> 00:08:36,891 1MDB took a loan of approximately 1.2 billion dollars, 135 00:08:37,183 --> 00:08:42,396 and within a couple weeks, they'd invested 95 percent of the sum, 136 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,899 one billion US dollars, in a single company. 137 00:08:45,650 --> 00:08:48,819 And, when you do a simple research on that single company, 138 00:08:48,903 --> 00:08:51,113 you realize that the company was new, 139 00:08:51,197 --> 00:08:52,740 it didn't have a history, 140 00:08:52,823 --> 00:08:55,243 and nobody knew anything about that company. 141 00:08:56,327 --> 00:08:59,580 [Bin Ibrahim] The investment was around a billion at that time. 142 00:09:00,289 --> 00:09:02,708 So we googled and checked PetroSaudi. 143 00:09:03,125 --> 00:09:05,211 So there were bit dubious dealings. 144 00:09:05,294 --> 00:09:07,838 I was the number three of PetroSaudi in London. 145 00:09:08,381 --> 00:09:11,425 But there was almost no activities until 2009. 146 00:09:12,552 --> 00:09:14,136 The official story was 147 00:09:14,220 --> 00:09:18,140 that PetroSaudi was bringing in oil fields in Turkmenistan, 148 00:09:18,724 --> 00:09:21,185 but they didn't have these oil fields. 149 00:09:21,269 --> 00:09:22,728 They never had oil fields. 150 00:09:23,145 --> 00:09:23,980 It was a lie. 151 00:09:24,397 --> 00:09:26,315 This joint venture was somebody bringing 152 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:29,569 almost two billion dollars and the other one bringing nothing. 153 00:09:30,611 --> 00:09:34,532 [Pua] And that's when you start thinking, "Is this a scam? 154 00:09:35,324 --> 00:09:36,367 Is this real? 155 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:39,620 Or is it actually a pretend agreement 156 00:09:39,829 --> 00:09:42,248 in order to take one billion out 157 00:09:42,873 --> 00:09:44,292 from Malaysian taxpayers?" 158 00:09:49,839 --> 00:09:51,757 [Rewcastle Brown] I run a blog 159 00:09:51,841 --> 00:09:55,219 dedicated to exposing corruption in Malaysia. 160 00:09:56,554 --> 00:10:01,142 I knew about 1MDB because, since roundabout 2010, 161 00:10:01,225 --> 00:10:04,312 1MBD had been making noises about getting involved 162 00:10:04,395 --> 00:10:05,479 in the rain forest state 163 00:10:05,563 --> 00:10:07,315 where I'd been looking into timber corruption. 164 00:10:08,733 --> 00:10:10,943 Nobody could get to the bottom of what was going on, 165 00:10:11,027 --> 00:10:13,613 except that this fund appeared to be losing money, 166 00:10:13,696 --> 00:10:17,074 and investing in strange institutions that had no past, 167 00:10:17,158 --> 00:10:18,659 like PetroSaudi, 168 00:10:18,743 --> 00:10:22,371 that were connected to Najib's son's pals. 169 00:10:22,913 --> 00:10:24,498 That was what everyone was whispering. 170 00:10:24,582 --> 00:10:27,001 "Hey, yeah, it's all run by a bunch of boys 171 00:10:27,084 --> 00:10:30,171 who are friendly with Najib's son. It's that Jho Low." 172 00:10:37,345 --> 00:10:39,889 [man] How do we define value? 173 00:10:41,891 --> 00:10:45,019 [Pua] Jho Low was, and perhaps is, 174 00:10:45,561 --> 00:10:47,980 the international man of mystery. 175 00:10:48,064 --> 00:10:49,690 [man] Is it something we can see? 176 00:10:51,567 --> 00:10:53,611 [Pua] Nobody really knew much about him. 177 00:10:54,028 --> 00:10:56,614 All we found was this very... 178 00:10:56,989 --> 00:10:58,783 expensive video 179 00:10:59,283 --> 00:11:01,118 of him and his brother 180 00:11:01,202 --> 00:11:03,871 talking about his company, Jynwel Capital... 181 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:08,000 It's about how each deal changes a community, 182 00:11:08,084 --> 00:11:10,044 a country, and the world. 183 00:11:10,127 --> 00:11:13,631 [Pua] ...that didn't say anything about what the company does. 184 00:11:13,714 --> 00:11:14,715 [Low] Our approach is 185 00:11:14,799 --> 00:11:18,010 to fundamentally question how quality is created... 186 00:11:19,345 --> 00:11:22,473 how to enhance value, identify synergies, 187 00:11:23,140 --> 00:11:26,185 capitalize on efficiency, and maximize potential. 188 00:11:26,644 --> 00:11:28,938 Then we can enjoy bringing creativity 189 00:11:29,021 --> 00:11:30,439 and expertise to a deal, 190 00:11:30,940 --> 00:11:33,025 and execute it in our own way. 191 00:11:37,196 --> 00:11:40,074 What sort of business enterprise was he involved in? 192 00:11:40,157 --> 00:11:41,659 Nobody can explain. 193 00:11:42,159 --> 00:11:44,912 This young upstart... 194 00:11:45,788 --> 00:11:47,164 no track record. 195 00:11:47,415 --> 00:11:48,958 How is he assigned 196 00:11:49,458 --> 00:11:54,505 to run the biggest government enterprise? 197 00:11:55,423 --> 00:11:56,465 There's no answer. 198 00:11:57,466 --> 00:12:00,094 [Kay Tat] He studied in boarding school in the UK, 199 00:12:00,219 --> 00:12:03,222 and he made friends with children of ruling family 200 00:12:03,305 --> 00:12:04,807 in Saudi and Abu Dhabi, 201 00:12:05,474 --> 00:12:07,518 and he also made friends with Riza Aziz, 202 00:12:07,893 --> 00:12:09,520 the stepson of Najib. 203 00:12:10,020 --> 00:12:13,941 He got himself a position as an advisor to Najib. 204 00:12:14,024 --> 00:12:18,904 Saw an opportunity to trade on his Middle Eastern connections. 205 00:12:19,530 --> 00:12:22,324 [Kay Tat] One of the shareholders of PetroSaudi 206 00:12:22,408 --> 00:12:26,203 was Prince Turki of Saudi Arabia. 207 00:12:26,287 --> 00:12:28,831 So Jho Low was able to connect... 208 00:12:29,415 --> 00:12:30,833 Najjb to them. 209 00:12:31,584 --> 00:12:33,752 Yeah, Jho Low is the man who... 210 00:12:34,295 --> 00:12:38,674 who had the special connections with some very key personalities... 211 00:12:39,216 --> 00:12:40,760 in the Middle East, you see. 212 00:12:40,843 --> 00:12:42,178 With these countries, 213 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,681 uh, you need a special channel to make things happen. 214 00:12:46,849 --> 00:12:49,143 It was much more on an informal basis. 215 00:12:51,145 --> 00:12:55,065 Well, the thing about Malaysia is it's a very small society. 216 00:12:55,816 --> 00:12:57,818 You know, stuff gets out. 217 00:12:58,652 --> 00:13:01,947 And Jho Low had already come onto the radar, 218 00:13:02,031 --> 00:13:06,160 just purely as being a sort of jaw-dropping spendthrift. 219 00:13:06,243 --> 00:13:09,747 Obviously, 50 bottles of Cristal 220 00:13:09,955 --> 00:13:12,333 from Saudi and Malaysia is not enough. 221 00:13:12,416 --> 00:13:13,667 [crowd shouting, whooping] 222 00:13:13,751 --> 00:13:14,794 Guess what? 223 00:13:15,419 --> 00:13:18,964 We got a lot of shit coming from Saudi and Malaysia! 224 00:13:20,341 --> 00:13:23,928 Bring out 100 bottles of Cristal for everyone! 225 00:13:24,011 --> 00:13:26,889 -[cheering, whooping] -[loud techno music plays] 226 00:13:30,851 --> 00:13:34,313 [man] In the nightclub world, a "whale" is somebody who is a really big spender. 227 00:13:34,396 --> 00:13:37,066 Like, a big enough spender to almost single-handedly 228 00:13:37,149 --> 00:13:38,526 keep a nightclub viable. 229 00:13:38,609 --> 00:13:41,612 So Jho Low was the biggest of the whales, 230 00:13:41,695 --> 00:13:42,822 the blue whale among whales. 231 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,114 [pops] 232 00:13:44,990 --> 00:13:46,700 [Niemietz] The first time we heard about him, 233 00:13:46,784 --> 00:13:48,536 Jho Low had gone to this club 1OAK. 234 00:13:48,786 --> 00:13:50,371 He saw Lindsay Lohan, 235 00:13:50,454 --> 00:13:53,457 and somebody had told Jho Low it was her 23rd birthday. 236 00:13:53,916 --> 00:13:56,877 So he bought 23 bottles of champagne for the club. 237 00:13:57,294 --> 00:13:59,463 It comes out, the waitresses put sparklers in it 238 00:13:59,547 --> 00:14:01,674 and they run around the room, and everybody cheers. 239 00:14:02,174 --> 00:14:04,218 And then somebody approached him and said, 240 00:14:04,301 --> 00:14:08,222 "Hey, you know, you've kind of been played with here. It's not her birthday." 241 00:14:08,514 --> 00:14:10,724 And, kind of, I think, sort of as an act of defiance 242 00:14:10,808 --> 00:14:13,644 but also just having fun with it, he ordered another 23 bottles. 243 00:14:13,727 --> 00:14:15,729 [cheering] 244 00:14:16,730 --> 00:14:19,692 [Rewcastle Brown] Paris Hilton was allegedly charging Jho Low 245 00:14:19,775 --> 00:14:23,112 a million dollars every time she went to be his party companion. 246 00:14:24,196 --> 00:14:27,408 He had hired Busta Rhymes to do some kind of personal party. 247 00:14:28,075 --> 00:14:30,536 Jamie Foxx and Swizz Beatz. 248 00:14:31,245 --> 00:14:35,583 They were giving each other party presents of Bugattis to drive away on. 249 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,960 And then there were dancing dwarves, 250 00:14:38,043 --> 00:14:42,506 and caged lions by the pool, and acrobats. 251 00:14:43,257 --> 00:14:46,927 They'd get someone like Britney Spears jumping out of birthday cakes. 252 00:14:48,596 --> 00:14:51,515 Everyone is wondering, "How is it that this... 253 00:14:52,099 --> 00:14:56,186 fat Chinese boy gets to party with all the hottest girls in Hollywood?" 254 00:14:58,939 --> 00:15:02,318 So it all came together, really, late 2013, 255 00:15:02,401 --> 00:15:05,446 as the promotional stuff came out for a movie. 256 00:15:05,613 --> 00:15:07,114 Um, The Wolf of Wall Street. 257 00:15:09,450 --> 00:15:10,993 [man] My name is Jordan Belfort. 258 00:15:11,076 --> 00:15:14,330 The year I turned 26, I made 49 million dollars, 259 00:15:14,413 --> 00:15:17,750 which really pissed me off, because it was three shy of a million a week. 260 00:15:17,833 --> 00:15:18,709 [man shouting] 261 00:15:18,792 --> 00:15:20,419 [Rewcastle Brown] But I'd also discovered 262 00:15:20,502 --> 00:15:24,548 that the producer of this movie, this 100 million dollar movie 263 00:15:24,632 --> 00:15:26,634 about squandering stolen money, 264 00:15:26,884 --> 00:15:29,720 was the stepson of Najib Razak. 265 00:15:29,803 --> 00:15:32,598 I mean, to have the pedigree of talent 266 00:15:32,681 --> 00:15:35,059 with, Leo DiCaprio, Martin Scorsese, 267 00:15:35,142 --> 00:15:37,144 and to have four years of our life into this movie 268 00:15:37,227 --> 00:15:39,855 and then see it all manifest itself onto the big screen, 269 00:15:39,939 --> 00:15:42,399 and to have the acclaim that the movie is getting, 270 00:15:42,483 --> 00:15:43,317 it's a great feeling. 271 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,153 -[woman] Congratulations. -Thank you. Thank you very much. 272 00:15:46,236 --> 00:15:48,364 We're very excited. Very, very excited. 273 00:15:48,447 --> 00:15:50,908 [Rewcastle Brown] And at every single launch party, 274 00:15:51,325 --> 00:15:54,828 standing next to this young man who, inexplicably, 275 00:15:54,912 --> 00:15:57,373 had been able to, as a rookie in Hollywood, 276 00:15:57,456 --> 00:16:02,753 generate a 100 million dollar film with Leo DiCaprio and Martin Scorsese, 277 00:16:02,836 --> 00:16:06,340 next to him was none other than Jho Low, 278 00:16:06,423 --> 00:16:09,510 the guy behind this 1MDB fund 279 00:16:09,593 --> 00:16:13,180 that was spending so much money and investing, nobody knew where. 280 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:18,477 Thank you to the entire production team, Joey, Riz, Jho. Joey, Riz, and Jho, 281 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,188 thank you for being not only collaborators, 282 00:16:21,271 --> 00:16:24,191 but taking a risk on this movie, truly. 283 00:16:29,571 --> 00:16:30,698 I was never... 284 00:16:31,740 --> 00:16:34,410 invited to these parties, fortunately. [chuckles] 285 00:16:34,493 --> 00:16:36,537 Even if I was invited, I wouldn't have gone. 286 00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:38,455 It's not my my scene. 287 00:16:39,289 --> 00:16:42,292 I felt very awkward, actually. He knows I didn't like it. 288 00:16:43,419 --> 00:16:44,420 Uh... 289 00:16:45,212 --> 00:16:48,674 But I suppose he felt he needed to show that... 290 00:16:49,675 --> 00:16:52,553 uh, something like that would be associated 291 00:16:52,636 --> 00:16:57,016 with somebody with a lot of money, and therefore would impress others. 292 00:16:57,933 --> 00:16:59,601 You know? It certainly didn't impress me, 293 00:16:59,685 --> 00:17:03,188 but he might have thought it could impress others. 294 00:17:07,276 --> 00:17:10,112 And I got a lovely quote during that time 295 00:17:10,195 --> 00:17:12,573 when Jho Low was being reported spending money. 296 00:17:13,073 --> 00:17:17,786 Apparently, Rosmah was opening up some online story 297 00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:19,496 that was talking about this, 298 00:17:19,705 --> 00:17:22,833 and she stamped her foot and said aloud, 299 00:17:23,083 --> 00:17:25,419 "You know, he needs to remember, this is my money too." 300 00:17:25,836 --> 00:17:28,130 [woman] It's time to meet the lady of the house, 301 00:17:28,213 --> 00:17:30,507 none other than the Prime Minister's wife, 302 00:17:30,591 --> 00:17:32,509 Datin Rosmah Mansor. 303 00:17:32,593 --> 00:17:34,178 Hello, Datin! 304 00:17:34,845 --> 00:17:36,138 How are you? 305 00:17:36,221 --> 00:17:37,681 I did the whole house. 306 00:17:38,557 --> 00:17:39,725 Everything, I did. 307 00:17:39,808 --> 00:17:43,020 I picked all the furniture, designed the carpets. 308 00:17:43,103 --> 00:17:45,397 [man] I don't know Rosmah personally, 309 00:17:45,481 --> 00:17:49,985 but the media has portrayed her to be very much like Imelda Marcos... 310 00:17:50,861 --> 00:17:53,113 except at a much higher level. 311 00:17:53,655 --> 00:17:56,784 Whereas politicians are probably more discreet, 312 00:17:56,867 --> 00:17:58,494 Rosmah was not discreet at all. 313 00:17:58,994 --> 00:18:00,454 These are a pair of earrings. 314 00:18:00,537 --> 00:18:03,207 She would have a different Birkin crocodile handbag 315 00:18:03,290 --> 00:18:05,167 on her arm every time she went out. 316 00:18:05,667 --> 00:18:07,920 You have a tiara like this. 317 00:18:08,003 --> 00:18:11,090 There's a story about Rosmah Mansor taking a trip to Hong Kong 318 00:18:11,173 --> 00:18:13,509 and spending so much money shopping, 319 00:18:14,009 --> 00:18:17,805 they end up filling an entire jet airplane to the brim. 320 00:18:17,888 --> 00:18:20,099 Amazing necklaces like this. 321 00:18:20,182 --> 00:18:24,603 You know, how could the wife of a politician afford such luxury? 322 00:18:24,686 --> 00:18:26,021 A ring of some sort. 323 00:18:26,605 --> 00:18:31,276 Jho Low took care to spend a heck of a lot of money on Rosmah. 324 00:18:42,830 --> 00:18:44,832 [man speaking indistinctly on treadmill TV] 325 00:18:51,171 --> 00:18:52,756 [Najib's voice] I accept that there were-- 326 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,176 there were accusations of an opulent lifestyle. I accept that. 327 00:18:56,969 --> 00:18:58,679 [man] I had the idea, other people... 328 00:18:58,762 --> 00:19:01,682 [Najib] And it's not appropriate. So I'm trying my level best... 329 00:19:03,100 --> 00:19:04,893 you know, to change that perception... 330 00:19:05,435 --> 00:19:07,729 because I think it's just a question of perception. 331 00:19:07,813 --> 00:19:09,356 The truth is something else. 332 00:19:10,816 --> 00:19:14,945 And I hope, you know, people in due course will understand 333 00:19:16,321 --> 00:19:18,282 the real person that I am. 334 00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:21,535 [interviewer] So you don't think it's true 335 00:19:21,618 --> 00:19:23,912 that you and your wife live an opulent lifestyle? 336 00:19:23,996 --> 00:19:25,080 Uh... 337 00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:28,750 I think it can-- it can-- the lifestyle can be explained. 338 00:19:29,251 --> 00:19:33,714 I mean, she does, like most women-- my wife does like to shop, but... 339 00:19:34,339 --> 00:19:35,340 uh... 340 00:19:36,383 --> 00:19:39,428 you tend to accumulate things over a period of time, 341 00:19:39,511 --> 00:19:41,763 and some of the places she shops are... 342 00:19:42,347 --> 00:19:44,433 You know, she goes to outlets as well, you know? 343 00:19:45,434 --> 00:19:48,395 I sometimes complain. I say, you know, "Don't keep those things! 344 00:19:48,478 --> 00:19:51,315 You are a hoarder. You keep things for a long time. 345 00:19:51,398 --> 00:19:52,649 Get rid of them," you know? 346 00:19:52,983 --> 00:19:56,403 But if you-- It's amazing that after a few years, 347 00:19:56,820 --> 00:20:00,532 the amount of things you accumulate, particularly when you're in office... 348 00:20:07,206 --> 00:20:10,417 We have friends. Friends do give us presents. 349 00:20:10,792 --> 00:20:13,545 And it's not anything against the law... 350 00:20:14,087 --> 00:20:15,714 in Malaysia to receive presents. 351 00:20:16,757 --> 00:20:19,259 Every head of government received gifts, 352 00:20:19,635 --> 00:20:21,261 particularly from the Middle East. 353 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,680 I mean, your president received... 354 00:20:24,306 --> 00:20:26,099 quite expensive gifts from... 355 00:20:26,725 --> 00:20:29,937 from the Middle East as well. I believe it's well-documented. 356 00:20:30,854 --> 00:20:31,939 Yes, Kiky. 357 00:20:32,481 --> 00:20:33,398 Oh, Kiky. 358 00:20:34,733 --> 00:20:35,567 Kiky. 359 00:20:37,402 --> 00:20:39,988 -[bell jingles] -Hey. 360 00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:42,115 Most famous cat in the country. 361 00:20:44,201 --> 00:20:46,912 Oh, she's cuddly, fluffy, and... 362 00:20:48,038 --> 00:20:49,414 she's territorial. 363 00:20:49,498 --> 00:20:51,291 You know where to find her. She's always here. 364 00:20:51,375 --> 00:20:54,586 This is-- She's marked this as her territory. 365 00:20:55,128 --> 00:20:57,547 You know? And she won't go anywhere else. 366 00:20:58,590 --> 00:21:00,342 [interviewer] And you post her on Instagram? 367 00:21:00,425 --> 00:21:03,303 Yeah, I get about 40,000 every time I post Kiky... 368 00:21:04,012 --> 00:21:05,138 and people say, "Hey... 369 00:21:06,306 --> 00:21:08,225 we want to see the latest picture of Kiky." 370 00:21:08,308 --> 00:21:09,893 They'll make comments like that. 371 00:21:12,646 --> 00:21:15,399 It's widely exaggerated in terms of my lifestyle. 372 00:21:16,733 --> 00:21:20,696 I'm basically a simple person. I love the simple lifestyle. 373 00:21:27,452 --> 00:21:29,621 [Turnbull] Asia was kind of slow to really pick up 374 00:21:29,705 --> 00:21:31,999 on the full extent of the crisis in the US. 375 00:21:32,457 --> 00:21:35,335 It didn't really hit the region until... 376 00:21:35,627 --> 00:21:37,129 basically around the time Lehman... 377 00:21:37,504 --> 00:21:40,924 uh, defaulted, and then you just saw this implosion in trade. 378 00:21:41,008 --> 00:21:42,551 After the financial crisis, 379 00:21:42,634 --> 00:21:45,137 it was a terrible time for investment banks around the world, 380 00:21:45,220 --> 00:21:46,638 and some of them didn't survive. 381 00:21:46,722 --> 00:21:49,683 Goldman was one of the few major, surviving, 382 00:21:49,766 --> 00:21:51,601 truly international investment banks. 383 00:21:52,102 --> 00:21:54,646 With all the regulatory pressure on the U.S. businesses, 384 00:21:54,730 --> 00:21:58,025 there was a push to look to emerging growth markets. 385 00:21:58,108 --> 00:22:03,238 They felt that they had to find something to allow them to grow their business. 386 00:22:03,322 --> 00:22:04,990 They thought the answer was Asia. 387 00:22:06,491 --> 00:22:10,120 [man] People come to this firm wanting to make a contribution. 388 00:22:10,203 --> 00:22:13,290 Of course, they want to have a satisfying personal career, 389 00:22:13,373 --> 00:22:15,333 but I'll tell you, what they really want to do 390 00:22:15,417 --> 00:22:17,169 is they wanna make their mark on the world. 391 00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:22,007 [Kay Tat] Tim Leissner, 392 00:22:22,090 --> 00:22:24,926 who was then the head of Goldman Sachs in Southeast Asia, 393 00:22:25,010 --> 00:22:27,220 wanted to get into the deal. 394 00:22:27,304 --> 00:22:29,598 I mean, everybody heard about Jho Low, right? And 1MDB. 395 00:22:29,931 --> 00:22:33,310 Bankers, they want to be part of the transaction. 396 00:22:34,102 --> 00:22:37,022 After the PetroSaudi joint venture, 397 00:22:37,147 --> 00:22:39,691 Malaysia didn't have any more money sitting around. 398 00:22:39,775 --> 00:22:45,072 So Najib and Jho Low needed new ways to get money into the fund. 399 00:22:45,989 --> 00:22:49,201 [Taibbi] Leissner had a reputation as a rule breaker, 400 00:22:49,534 --> 00:22:52,746 a partier, an operator, a womanizer. 401 00:22:53,747 --> 00:22:55,207 Low had to like that. 402 00:22:55,290 --> 00:22:57,292 He had to think, "This is exactly the kind of person 403 00:22:57,376 --> 00:22:58,585 I was looking for." 404 00:22:59,086 --> 00:23:01,671 Tim, I didn't know him very well. We worked in the same building. 405 00:23:02,172 --> 00:23:04,174 By reputation, he was a bit of a wild man. 406 00:23:04,257 --> 00:23:06,843 But essentially, a very good relationship manager, 407 00:23:06,927 --> 00:23:09,096 and knew everyone and anyone in Malaysia. 408 00:23:09,513 --> 00:23:12,974 [Taibbi] For Low, Goldman Sachs is the whale. 409 00:23:13,058 --> 00:23:16,144 For Leissner, the whale was, you know, Najib. 410 00:23:16,978 --> 00:23:22,275 Goldman Sachs facilitated the issuing of three different sets of bonds, 411 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,486 totaling in billions of dollars. 412 00:23:25,612 --> 00:23:27,197 [Turnbull] When the deal was first done, 413 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,282 I had the chance to go through it, and it was... 414 00:23:29,741 --> 00:23:31,618 it was a complete joke, frankly. 415 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,664 There was no stated use of proceeds. There was no governance structure. 416 00:23:35,747 --> 00:23:38,041 Who was going to manage this? There were no employees, 417 00:23:38,125 --> 00:23:41,378 so the answer is no one, or it will be determined at a later date. 418 00:23:42,295 --> 00:23:45,549 But with a deal as big as this, every senior member of the firm 419 00:23:45,632 --> 00:23:48,593 who sits on the major risk committees would've had to look at this thing 420 00:23:48,677 --> 00:23:50,262 at least in some detail. 421 00:23:51,054 --> 00:23:53,098 And so it's weird that it got passed on through. 422 00:23:53,807 --> 00:23:55,308 Goldman ended up receiving 423 00:23:55,642 --> 00:23:57,769 about 200 times the normal fee 424 00:23:58,228 --> 00:23:59,563 for brokering bonds. 425 00:24:00,564 --> 00:24:02,691 If this business had been on the up and up, 426 00:24:03,150 --> 00:24:05,861 they could have gone to any other investment bank 427 00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:09,030 and they all would have offered roughly the same services 428 00:24:09,114 --> 00:24:10,365 for roughly the same price. 429 00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:12,742 But this was an unusual service. 430 00:24:12,826 --> 00:24:14,953 They were asking Goldman to underwrite something 431 00:24:15,036 --> 00:24:17,080 that was pretty clearly corrupt. 432 00:24:17,414 --> 00:24:20,542 Uh, and not every investment act was going to do that. 433 00:24:20,834 --> 00:24:23,378 So in order to get that service, they had to pay more. 434 00:24:28,633 --> 00:24:32,554 [Kay Tat] In 2013, 1MDB raised money through Goldman Sachs 435 00:24:32,888 --> 00:24:37,184 to build a new financial center in Kuala Lumpur 436 00:24:37,267 --> 00:24:40,228 called Tun Razak Exchange, TRX. 437 00:24:41,521 --> 00:24:44,483 [man] A global financial force is emerging. 438 00:24:47,485 --> 00:24:49,237 A catalyst for convergence... 439 00:24:51,948 --> 00:24:54,659 between east and west. 440 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:56,953 Smart. 441 00:24:57,621 --> 00:24:58,747 Sustainable. 442 00:25:00,665 --> 00:25:03,168 The Tun Razak Exchange. 443 00:25:05,045 --> 00:25:07,756 [Pua] Tun Razak is Najib's father's name. 444 00:25:08,548 --> 00:25:11,760 So this Tun Razak Exchange is meant to be constructed 445 00:25:11,843 --> 00:25:14,179 with funds raised by 1MDB... 446 00:25:14,846 --> 00:25:17,515 in this case, three billion dollars. 447 00:25:18,725 --> 00:25:23,146 A lot of people in the business community had their doubts, 448 00:25:23,688 --> 00:25:26,316 but it was really quite a grand, ambitious plan. 449 00:25:27,150 --> 00:25:31,571 [Pua] It was meant to be the magnet for global financial companies 450 00:25:31,655 --> 00:25:34,074 to invest in Malaysia. 451 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:38,745 In reality, we had a huge, 452 00:25:39,412 --> 00:25:42,874 semi-abandoned construction site right here... 453 00:25:44,292 --> 00:25:46,211 where projects were hanging. 454 00:25:46,294 --> 00:25:47,462 Some were stopped. 455 00:25:48,213 --> 00:25:52,509 There was a great deal of uncertainty as to whether there was enough money 456 00:25:52,592 --> 00:25:54,135 to continue with the project, 457 00:25:54,219 --> 00:25:57,681 to complete the infrastructure that was promised to the investors. 458 00:25:58,014 --> 00:26:02,185 [man] The fund has 42 billion ringgit in debt, 459 00:26:02,269 --> 00:26:06,773 and there seems to be a lot of speculation that they will have troubles 460 00:26:06,856 --> 00:26:09,401 meeting their financial obligations on the US dollar debt. 461 00:26:10,819 --> 00:26:14,072 [Low] I just wanna be clear. So you're asking for my views on-- 462 00:26:14,155 --> 00:26:15,991 I'm asking for your views, yeah. 463 00:26:16,074 --> 00:26:17,075 [Low] Okay. 464 00:26:18,535 --> 00:26:21,037 From what I can read from the audits and accounts, 465 00:26:21,121 --> 00:26:25,875 my understanding is 1MDB clearly has more assets than liabilities. 466 00:26:26,084 --> 00:26:27,502 I think the key is... 467 00:26:28,336 --> 00:26:30,922 how quickly these assets are monetized, 468 00:26:31,298 --> 00:26:34,676 um, and really for the management to execute. 469 00:26:36,261 --> 00:26:41,391 [Kay Tat] The government could not service the debt of 1MDB by 2015, 2016. 470 00:26:41,725 --> 00:26:44,686 So they took money from other government agencies too. 471 00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:50,483 Money was stolen from Tabung Haji to pay off outstanding 1MDB debt. 472 00:26:51,693 --> 00:26:53,153 It's like a Ponzi right? 473 00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:55,238 Once the money was gone, 474 00:26:55,322 --> 00:26:57,324 you have to find more money to cover the hole. 475 00:27:00,118 --> 00:27:05,290 [in Malay] Since 1992, I've put money in the Tabung Haji fund. 476 00:27:06,207 --> 00:27:10,670 That's my commitment to go on hajj. 477 00:27:11,671 --> 00:27:14,382 [man] Tabung Haji is a fund that Muslims can invest in, 478 00:27:14,633 --> 00:27:18,637 and it will actually help fund your pilgrimage to Mecca. 479 00:27:20,138 --> 00:27:24,309 See, the thing about the hajj is that not every Muslim can afford it. 480 00:27:24,392 --> 00:27:27,270 Not every Muslim can actually go once in their life. 481 00:27:27,729 --> 00:27:30,815 You have to wait a very long time, sometimes 50, 60 years, 482 00:27:30,899 --> 00:27:32,192 to finally get to Mecca. 483 00:27:32,734 --> 00:27:36,613 [in Malay] We start saving young, so when we're older we can go on hajj. 484 00:27:36,738 --> 00:27:40,408 Because in Islam, it is compulsory if you can afford it. 485 00:27:41,618 --> 00:27:44,996 [Idros] The speculation that Najib has taken funds from Tabung Haji 486 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,956 to fill up the holes in 1MDB... 487 00:27:47,582 --> 00:27:50,335 [in Malay] A lot of the money disappeared. 488 00:27:50,919 --> 00:27:54,756 So the dividend decreased drastically. 489 00:27:55,131 --> 00:28:00,178 From 6.25 percent to 1.25 percent. 490 00:28:00,887 --> 00:28:04,182 [Idros] They've saved up their entire lifetime for this. 491 00:28:04,849 --> 00:28:08,061 And then, suddenly those funds that you've invested your entire life, 492 00:28:08,144 --> 00:28:08,978 they're gone. 493 00:28:10,438 --> 00:28:13,274 I mean, how can somebody steal funds 494 00:28:13,358 --> 00:28:16,611 from something that is meant to be... holy? 495 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,660 [Rewcastle Brown] There are certain people in our global community 496 00:28:23,743 --> 00:28:26,204 who think they are above all laws. 497 00:28:26,913 --> 00:28:31,126 And people like Najib have total power within their own countries, 498 00:28:31,209 --> 00:28:34,921 and they are let off by all the financial institutions 499 00:28:35,004 --> 00:28:38,925 that turn a blind eye in order to do business in these regions. 500 00:28:39,634 --> 00:28:42,387 And I think he thought he could get away with it. 501 00:28:42,846 --> 00:28:46,641 Fortunately, what happens when you start writing 502 00:28:46,725 --> 00:28:49,894 about a story that really is in plain sight, 503 00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:53,773 something like this, this huge expenditure of money, 504 00:28:53,857 --> 00:28:57,819 is that you become the person that people who've got information 505 00:28:58,194 --> 00:28:59,529 tend to contact. 506 00:29:00,488 --> 00:29:03,867 I left PetroSaudi in April 2011. 507 00:29:04,701 --> 00:29:08,872 Two months later, I called the IT guy of PetroSaudi. 508 00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:11,416 I said, "I just want to have a kind of insurance. 509 00:29:11,583 --> 00:29:13,251 If one day there is a problem... 510 00:29:14,043 --> 00:29:17,338 I just want to prove that I had nothing to do with those big numbers." 511 00:29:17,422 --> 00:29:21,134 So I asked him to get a copy of the PetroSaudi server. 512 00:29:21,634 --> 00:29:23,303 The first time I went to Bangkok, 513 00:29:23,845 --> 00:29:26,389 I had no idea who I was going to see. 514 00:29:26,639 --> 00:29:29,142 In fact, I'd been warned not to go because I'd been warned 515 00:29:29,225 --> 00:29:32,854 that it was more than likely to be a Russian mafia operation, 516 00:29:32,937 --> 00:29:35,982 and that I was risking life and limb. 517 00:29:36,733 --> 00:29:40,528 [Justo] One of the key elements in these emails was 518 00:29:40,612 --> 00:29:42,739 that the transfer of 700 millions 519 00:29:43,239 --> 00:29:47,535 was related to this Good Star company, 520 00:29:47,619 --> 00:29:51,247 that had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the PetroSaudi deal. 521 00:29:52,332 --> 00:29:55,919 [Rewcastle Brown] Three hundred million went into PetroSaudi's bank account, 522 00:29:56,002 --> 00:29:58,546 and 700 million went into a mystery company 523 00:29:58,630 --> 00:30:00,298 called Good Star Limited. 524 00:30:01,049 --> 00:30:04,052 And signing on behalf of Good Star 525 00:30:04,135 --> 00:30:08,389 was a person I knew to be Jho Low's business manager. 526 00:30:08,932 --> 00:30:12,936 That was what nailed the whole PetroSaudi joint venture 527 00:30:13,019 --> 00:30:14,145 as a scam. 528 00:30:15,313 --> 00:30:18,775 Their weakness was that the money was put into dollars, 529 00:30:19,234 --> 00:30:23,154 and so therefore it entered the United States jurisdiction. 530 00:30:23,613 --> 00:30:27,033 I had them. I knew I had them. I had the evidence. 531 00:30:27,242 --> 00:30:30,495 And, what's more, I'd given the evidence to the United States, 532 00:30:30,578 --> 00:30:32,539 and they acted on it. 533 00:30:32,622 --> 00:30:35,416 And we are here to announce a significant step 534 00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:36,918 in our ongoing work 535 00:30:37,001 --> 00:30:38,837 to combat global corruption, 536 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,924 and to ensure that the United States offers no safe haven 537 00:30:43,007 --> 00:30:47,762 to those who illegally use public funds for private gain. 538 00:30:47,846 --> 00:30:49,806 The scheme was fairly simple. 539 00:30:49,889 --> 00:30:51,307 It was stealing money, 540 00:30:52,016 --> 00:30:54,978 hiding it under a shell, and then moving those shells around 541 00:30:55,061 --> 00:30:57,730 until nobody knew where that money came from anymore. 542 00:30:58,606 --> 00:31:04,779 Jho Low opened companies in countries that have very low regulatory requirements 543 00:31:04,862 --> 00:31:08,992 and he used names that sounded like legitimate businesses. 544 00:31:09,492 --> 00:31:12,912 He would move the money between an incredible labyrinth 545 00:31:12,996 --> 00:31:15,290 of shell companies around the world. 546 00:31:15,832 --> 00:31:18,501 In the end, 2.7 billion dollars 547 00:31:18,585 --> 00:31:21,838 was siphoned off from the bond offerings, 548 00:31:22,005 --> 00:31:25,800 used for Jho Low's pleasure. 549 00:31:26,175 --> 00:31:30,221 The Equanimity yacht worth 250 million dollars. 550 00:31:30,305 --> 00:31:32,890 A Picasso painting worth 3.2 million dollars. 551 00:31:33,308 --> 00:31:34,976 A jet worth 35 million dollars. 552 00:31:35,059 --> 00:31:37,937 The film Dumb and Dumber To, over 20 million dollars. 553 00:31:38,021 --> 00:31:40,356 Shares in a company called Flywheel. 554 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,525 The painting by Basquiat called Dustheads. 555 00:31:42,609 --> 00:31:45,737 The film Daddy's Home. Two paintings by Claude Monet. 556 00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:46,821 A lingerie company. 557 00:31:46,905 --> 00:31:49,365 An Oscar statue that Marlon Brando won. 558 00:31:49,449 --> 00:31:52,327 A condo at One Madison Park. A condo at the Park Laurel-- 559 00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:54,537 The L'Hermitage hotel. An office building in London. 560 00:31:54,621 --> 00:31:56,664 A penthouse in Walker Tower. A matching diamond ring. 561 00:31:56,748 --> 00:31:58,791 Pink diamond pendant... Heart-shaped diamond. 562 00:31:59,375 --> 00:32:02,837 He bought the model Miranda Kerr a crystal piano, 563 00:32:03,379 --> 00:32:06,966 but she had a room in her house built around the piano, 564 00:32:07,550 --> 00:32:09,802 so the FBI couldn't physically seize it, 565 00:32:09,886 --> 00:32:12,096 because we couldn't remove it from that room. 566 00:32:12,805 --> 00:32:14,474 [playing piano] 567 00:32:17,685 --> 00:32:21,439 [Rewcastle Brown] Jho Low was the moneybags for everyone in all of this. 568 00:32:21,898 --> 00:32:26,486 Six hundred eighty-one million dollars had gone into Najib's account. 569 00:32:28,488 --> 00:32:30,948 [reporter] Hello, Mr. Prime Minister, it's ABC Australia. 570 00:32:31,032 --> 00:32:32,492 I'm wondering if you can explain 571 00:32:32,575 --> 00:32:34,577 the hundreds of millions of dollars in your account. 572 00:32:35,453 --> 00:32:36,579 Mr. Prime Minister. 573 00:32:38,206 --> 00:32:40,708 People were getting more and more aware 574 00:32:40,792 --> 00:32:43,878 that, you know, lots and lots of money were actually stolen. 575 00:32:45,004 --> 00:32:47,882 Five hundred thousand people came out to the streets, 576 00:32:47,966 --> 00:32:50,051 and people were really angry. 577 00:32:50,468 --> 00:32:54,681 [reporter] Tens of thousands of protesters gathered in Malaysia's capital on Sunday. 578 00:32:54,764 --> 00:32:58,267 They're demanding Prime Minister Najib Razak's resignation. 579 00:32:59,602 --> 00:33:03,523 [woman] Najib became very desperate when he saw the people's movement. 580 00:33:04,232 --> 00:33:08,111 He had people arrested for actually talking about 1MDB. 581 00:33:09,779 --> 00:33:12,573 So he took action against us, closed our paper. 582 00:33:12,657 --> 00:33:13,908 We will not apologize 583 00:33:13,992 --> 00:33:16,369 because we have not done anything wrong, okay? 584 00:33:16,744 --> 00:33:18,621 We stand by everything we have published. 585 00:33:19,414 --> 00:33:21,958 It depends on the nature of the criticism. 586 00:33:22,625 --> 00:33:25,878 If it's considered to be fair criticism, then-- 587 00:33:26,546 --> 00:33:27,964 Then we accept it. 588 00:33:28,297 --> 00:33:29,507 We have to accept it. 589 00:33:30,216 --> 00:33:35,096 If it's unsubstantiated, or we feel that it is one-sided... 590 00:33:35,930 --> 00:33:41,644 uh, then it puts the government in a... in a tight spot, you see? 591 00:33:43,187 --> 00:33:46,899 I was arrested in June 2015 by police from Bangkok. 592 00:33:47,692 --> 00:33:49,610 And they made me confess 593 00:33:49,694 --> 00:33:52,196 that 1MDB was a good company, 594 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:58,202 and that Mr. Jho Low and Mr. Najib Razak didn't do anything wrong. 595 00:33:58,286 --> 00:34:01,205 He sacked the attorney general who was investigating. 596 00:34:01,289 --> 00:34:04,459 He sacked his deputy prime minister, another cabinet minister. 597 00:34:04,751 --> 00:34:08,546 All those who oppose him or started asking questions about 1MDB. 598 00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:10,089 [crowd, officers clamoring] 599 00:34:10,173 --> 00:34:12,383 [Bin Ibrahim] I was the first member of Parliament 600 00:34:12,467 --> 00:34:14,677 to raise the issue of 1MDB. 601 00:34:15,970 --> 00:34:19,265 I was sentenced to five years imprisonment. 602 00:34:19,932 --> 00:34:22,685 I am not surprised with the judgment. 603 00:34:23,102 --> 00:34:26,147 I know the system, we have worked with the system. 604 00:34:26,355 --> 00:34:29,817 We have seen how the police conduct the affairs and the prosecution: 605 00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:31,444 clearly malicious. 606 00:34:31,527 --> 00:34:33,946 I was arrested under 124C 607 00:34:34,030 --> 00:34:35,907 of the penal code that actually says 608 00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:39,035 that I'm trying to undermine parliamentary democracy. 609 00:34:39,118 --> 00:34:43,498 We, her own sons, have no idea where she is right now. 610 00:34:43,790 --> 00:34:46,834 We don't even know when we'll actually get to see her again. 611 00:34:47,335 --> 00:34:48,419 [Chin] My son's car... 612 00:34:49,045 --> 00:34:51,380 Chicken blood was actually thrown at his car. 613 00:34:52,423 --> 00:34:55,510 That was a message to me to say that, you know, 614 00:34:55,593 --> 00:34:57,094 "We know where you are, 615 00:34:57,178 --> 00:34:59,514 and if you don't retreat, 616 00:34:59,597 --> 00:35:02,892 worse will happen actually to your sons." 617 00:35:04,352 --> 00:35:07,313 There is no word to explain what's going on in a Thai prison. 618 00:35:07,939 --> 00:35:09,774 In a cell of 30 square meters, 619 00:35:09,857 --> 00:35:11,984 there's, like, 50 people sleeping on the ground. 620 00:35:12,068 --> 00:35:15,571 You will end up sleeping with the feet of your neighbor on your face. 621 00:35:16,531 --> 00:35:20,993 I was supposed to be released in Switzerland in September 2016. 622 00:35:21,744 --> 00:35:25,373 But out of nowhere, two or three days prior to my transfer, 623 00:35:25,456 --> 00:35:29,919 Mr. Najib Razak came to Thailand, and he blocked my transfer. 624 00:35:30,711 --> 00:35:31,921 I spent eighteen months. 625 00:35:32,213 --> 00:35:33,923 Five hundred forty-seven days. 626 00:35:34,549 --> 00:35:35,925 I counted each one of them. 627 00:35:38,177 --> 00:35:39,720 [Pua] After the exposé, 628 00:35:40,096 --> 00:35:45,351 Najib was able to become more powerful than he ever was. 629 00:35:46,352 --> 00:35:48,563 And hence, the only way 630 00:35:48,896 --> 00:35:51,315 for a corrupt government to be checked 631 00:35:52,066 --> 00:35:55,027 is the-- perhaps, the most difficult way of all, 632 00:35:55,111 --> 00:35:57,697 which is by an election. 633 00:36:01,826 --> 00:36:04,495 [Bin Mohamad] We call upon all Malaysians, 634 00:36:04,662 --> 00:36:07,290 irrespective of race, religion, 635 00:36:07,373 --> 00:36:10,459 political affiliation, creed or parties, 636 00:36:10,835 --> 00:36:12,211 young and old, 637 00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:15,006 to join us in saving Malaysia 638 00:36:15,089 --> 00:36:18,801 from the government headed by Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak. 639 00:36:19,302 --> 00:36:21,179 In early 2018, 640 00:36:21,554 --> 00:36:23,222 when I was still in prison 641 00:36:23,514 --> 00:36:27,435 and barred from any possibility of entering the elections 642 00:36:27,518 --> 00:36:29,520 or taking any position in government, 643 00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:32,315 then the leaders of the opposition 644 00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:35,234 decided that Dr. Mahathir, 645 00:36:35,610 --> 00:36:38,029 who used to be prime minister once, 646 00:36:38,321 --> 00:36:40,573 would be then our candidate. 647 00:36:40,948 --> 00:36:42,241 Former Prime Minister... 648 00:36:43,117 --> 00:36:47,246 Tun Dr. Mahathir decided to come out from retirement 649 00:36:47,496 --> 00:36:53,586 and to stand for elections against his own choice of Prime Minister. 650 00:36:53,669 --> 00:36:56,505 Yeah. Certain heads must fall. 651 00:37:00,343 --> 00:37:03,638 [Bin Mohamad] We had lots of public gatherings 652 00:37:03,888 --> 00:37:06,515 where thousands of people attended. 653 00:37:07,433 --> 00:37:10,102 Even at 90 years old, 654 00:37:10,186 --> 00:37:12,396 I was still out there campaigning, 655 00:37:12,730 --> 00:37:17,777 meeting them and taking an interest in their unhappiness. 656 00:37:19,028 --> 00:37:20,696 But we didn't think we could win. 657 00:37:23,658 --> 00:37:25,117 You know, never-- 658 00:37:25,576 --> 00:37:27,787 you talk to Malaysians who were there, they were shocked. 659 00:37:28,621 --> 00:37:29,664 I accept... 660 00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:31,791 the verdict of the people. 661 00:37:31,874 --> 00:37:34,460 [cheering] 662 00:37:34,543 --> 00:37:39,215 [Kay Tat] I remember, May 9, May 10, the euphoria on the streets. 663 00:37:40,466 --> 00:37:44,512 Malaysians were elated, they were so happy that it happened. 664 00:37:45,137 --> 00:37:47,223 They never thought that it would ever happen. 665 00:37:47,848 --> 00:37:50,393 I thought I would never see it in my lifetime.   666 00:37:50,893 --> 00:37:51,978 That we would win. 667 00:37:52,728 --> 00:37:54,480 This is for the children to see. 668 00:37:54,563 --> 00:37:56,816 This is mother of all election, 669 00:37:56,899 --> 00:38:00,444 and he's the father of all leaders! 670 00:38:00,528 --> 00:38:01,946 [cheering] 671 00:38:02,029 --> 00:38:05,283 [Pua] They couldn't believe that Malaysians, as one... 672 00:38:06,075 --> 00:38:07,994 came up to vote in force, 673 00:38:08,369 --> 00:38:13,040 and successfully did what no one thought they could. 674 00:38:13,124 --> 00:38:15,876 Basically what I feel is something like an independence. 675 00:38:16,335 --> 00:38:20,464 Independence from a government which has ruled us for the past 60 years. 676 00:38:20,548 --> 00:38:22,091 [crowd chanting in Malay] 677 00:38:22,174 --> 00:38:23,634 [air horn blares] 678 00:38:23,718 --> 00:38:28,556 [crowd chanting in Malay continues] 679 00:38:44,905 --> 00:38:46,073 Yeah, okay. 680 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:50,745 You know, this whole issue of 1MDB and the loss of, uh... 681 00:38:51,328 --> 00:38:55,791 my party for the first time after 61 years. 682 00:38:56,792 --> 00:38:58,627 Uh, it's certainly 683 00:38:59,378 --> 00:39:01,088 something which is hard for me, 684 00:39:01,756 --> 00:39:03,215 uh, you know, to live with. 685 00:39:03,966 --> 00:39:05,718 I mean, the moment we lost, 686 00:39:06,635 --> 00:39:08,679 the night of the 9th of May, 687 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,973 uh, things... 688 00:39:11,682 --> 00:39:12,850 unraveled... 689 00:39:13,642 --> 00:39:16,103 in ways that we could never have imagined. 690 00:39:16,187 --> 00:39:19,857 [reporter] Najib's private residences were raided by police 691 00:39:19,940 --> 00:39:25,738 who confiscated 240 million dollars' worth of luxury goods. 692 00:39:26,238 --> 00:39:30,618 There were 284 boxes containing handbags. 693 00:39:31,035 --> 00:39:36,582 And there were 72 bags containing cash, jewelry, and watches. 694 00:39:37,249 --> 00:39:38,542 [Kay Tat] We have heard about it, 695 00:39:39,001 --> 00:39:42,755 but to finally see it with our own eyes and the police dragging it out, 696 00:39:42,838 --> 00:39:47,676 it's like, "Wow, what we suspected all along now is out." 697 00:39:48,302 --> 00:39:51,764 They did take jewelry, they took handbags, they took cash. 698 00:39:52,515 --> 00:39:55,726 Let me deal with the cash. For example, you know... 699 00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:59,855 Being a head of a political party, president of party, 700 00:40:00,397 --> 00:40:05,027 I was just continuing the tradition of a president of a party. 701 00:40:05,528 --> 00:40:09,532 This was a CSR political account under my name. 702 00:40:09,949 --> 00:40:13,160 You see? The donation that was given 703 00:40:13,702 --> 00:40:16,705 by-- under the behest of King Abdullah 704 00:40:17,206 --> 00:40:20,167 was specifically meant for me... 705 00:40:21,043 --> 00:40:22,628 as the leader of Malaysia. 706 00:40:22,711 --> 00:40:25,631 For welfare purposes and political purposes. 707 00:40:26,257 --> 00:40:28,259 People expect the government to do 708 00:40:28,342 --> 00:40:30,761 something that would be good for the people. 709 00:40:31,220 --> 00:40:35,599 If you do that, you're bound to be supported by the people, 710 00:40:35,850 --> 00:40:37,977 but he had different ideas. 711 00:40:38,102 --> 00:40:40,604 At one stage, he told me that cash is king. 712 00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:43,399 When you say, "Cash is king," 713 00:40:43,649 --> 00:40:47,570 you are actually saying that bribery is okay. 714 00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:50,698 If you use money to buy support, that's all right. 715 00:40:51,991 --> 00:40:54,785 [in Malay] Najib used to give us RM300. 716 00:40:55,244 --> 00:40:59,415 Now, this Mahathir gives us less. 717 00:40:59,915 --> 00:41:03,919 [in Malay] Before the 1MDB scandal, everyone got cash assistance. 718 00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:06,922 For all kinds of things: 719 00:41:07,047 --> 00:41:11,969 Boats. Engines. Lots of things. 720 00:41:12,052 --> 00:41:17,808 We don't have what we used to have. There's no more money. 721 00:41:19,018 --> 00:41:20,186 [interviewer] Do you all agree? 722 00:41:20,269 --> 00:41:22,396 We all agree! 723 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,525 Though Najib takes money from others, from the country, 724 00:41:26,609 --> 00:41:28,611 he gives it to the people. 725 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,905 He takes care of the people. 726 00:41:31,697 --> 00:41:33,991 It's okay if he takes the country's money. 727 00:41:34,366 --> 00:41:37,119 Who doesn't steal? What prime minister doesn't steal? 728 00:41:37,286 --> 00:41:38,621 It's not just Malaysia. 729 00:41:38,704 --> 00:41:42,625 Be it America, India, China, or any country. 730 00:41:43,083 --> 00:41:44,084 Maybe it's not right. 731 00:41:44,919 --> 00:41:46,504 If they have the chance, 732 00:41:47,963 --> 00:41:50,466 they'll take everything. 733 00:41:52,051 --> 00:41:54,970 [man in Malay] Okay, everyone! Ready? Everyone yell, okay? 734 00:41:55,054 --> 00:41:56,222 Everyone yell, okay? 735 00:41:56,305 --> 00:41:59,016 -Who are we waiting for? -[crowd] My boss! 736 00:41:59,433 --> 00:42:01,852 -Dato' Sri Najib! -[all] Dato' Sri Najib! 737 00:42:01,936 --> 00:42:04,396 -Our boss! -[all] My boss! 738 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,693 -[man] Don't be ashamed! Don't be ashamed! -[all] My boss! My boss! My boss! 739 00:42:10,194 --> 00:42:13,155 ♪ I always dream about  ♪ 740 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,076 ♪Spending a beautiful life Growing old with my boss... ♪ 741 00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:19,620 Don't be ashamed, my boss! 742 00:42:19,703 --> 00:42:21,330 [Najib's voice] When I was prime minister, 743 00:42:21,830 --> 00:42:26,001 the real person that I was never came across. 744 00:42:26,627 --> 00:42:28,671 In a sense, my real self... 745 00:42:29,421 --> 00:42:31,507 um, the real Najib... 746 00:42:32,216 --> 00:42:34,802 the personal persona, if you like, 747 00:42:35,135 --> 00:42:37,596 and the public persona are in line now. 748 00:42:38,097 --> 00:42:40,516 [crowd cheering, singing] 749 00:42:41,850 --> 00:42:43,936 -[man 1] Sign the motorcycle! -[man 2] Sign where? 750 00:42:44,812 --> 00:42:47,189 Clap your hands, he's signing the motorcycle! 751 00:42:47,273 --> 00:42:48,732 [man 3] This is Najib's subsidy. 752 00:42:49,858 --> 00:42:51,110 For the fishermen. 753 00:42:51,735 --> 00:42:54,238 This is all help from Najib. 754 00:42:55,364 --> 00:42:57,533 -I ask for your help, Dato' Sri. -Come up here, Dato'. 755 00:42:57,616 --> 00:42:59,368 Come back, Dato'. I'm not healthy. 756 00:42:59,451 --> 00:43:01,412 I take care of everyone. 757 00:43:01,495 --> 00:43:03,747 -[woman] Take care of the Malays, Dato'. -Of course. 758 00:43:04,582 --> 00:43:07,835 [Najib, in Malay] If I ask you the golden question, 759 00:43:08,544 --> 00:43:12,881 which is better? The time under my government, or today's? 760 00:43:13,090 --> 00:43:15,426 [crowd] Yours! Of course, yours! 761 00:43:17,386 --> 00:43:21,348 We were all afraid your fight would end, Dato' Sri. 762 00:43:21,432 --> 00:43:26,353 Let's continue his fight. Let's continue, friends! 763 00:43:26,437 --> 00:43:29,857 My boss, my boss, my boss. 764 00:43:29,940 --> 00:43:31,942 [singing continues] 765 00:43:33,694 --> 00:43:35,529 [woman in English] He's not guilty of anything. 766 00:43:35,613 --> 00:43:38,949 His government fall down because of-- 767 00:43:39,325 --> 00:43:43,412 -[woman 2] Lies. -Lies and... conspiracy. 768 00:43:43,746 --> 00:43:45,497 So, nothing to be ashamed of. 769 00:43:45,581 --> 00:43:48,625 He can move on. He can strike back. 770 00:43:49,293 --> 00:43:50,294 [crowd cheering] 771 00:43:50,377 --> 00:43:52,421 [Najib's voice in English] My time is limited, I know. 772 00:43:52,629 --> 00:43:56,050 You know, in four days, in a week, I'll be attending my trial... 773 00:43:56,634 --> 00:43:59,928 and then, uh, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I'll be doing my-- 774 00:44:00,387 --> 00:44:01,930 my engagement with the people. 775 00:44:02,890 --> 00:44:05,893 But you know, I accept it. It's one of those things you have to--- 776 00:44:06,018 --> 00:44:07,895 to make your adjustments, 777 00:44:08,312 --> 00:44:11,315 and hopefully, you know, it won't be too long before 778 00:44:11,940 --> 00:44:14,860 uh, we see the light at the end of the tunnel, so to speak. 779 00:44:22,534 --> 00:44:24,787 [Pua's voice] Some charges has been brought against Najib. 780 00:44:26,622 --> 00:44:28,165 There's many more charges to come. 781 00:44:30,084 --> 00:44:31,502 I'm confident... 782 00:44:32,211 --> 00:44:34,213 justice will be served. 783 00:44:35,547 --> 00:44:37,174 But the trial will take time. 784 00:44:38,133 --> 00:44:40,761 It will be months, and perhaps even... 785 00:44:41,929 --> 00:44:43,013 a year or two. 786 00:44:44,932 --> 00:44:48,227 Well, they said I was responsible for... 787 00:44:48,936 --> 00:44:50,270 stealing money, you know? 788 00:44:51,355 --> 00:44:53,232 But nothing has been proven... 789 00:44:53,774 --> 00:44:55,442 in the court so far. 790 00:44:55,526 --> 00:44:57,528 [siren wailing in distance] 791 00:44:57,611 --> 00:45:00,823 [man] There is one fundamental requirement of law. 792 00:45:02,032 --> 00:45:04,702 Najib must be proven by the prosecution... 793 00:45:05,452 --> 00:45:07,204 to have the full knowledge... 794 00:45:07,996 --> 00:45:09,456 that this money, 795 00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:13,127 in fact, came from the 1MDB loan. 796 00:45:15,671 --> 00:45:19,883 But the majority of the facts seem to indicate he has no knowledge. 797 00:45:20,426 --> 00:45:22,177 I would never have accepted 798 00:45:22,678 --> 00:45:25,389 a single cent if I knew it was 1MDB's money. 799 00:45:26,223 --> 00:45:29,309 [Rewcastle Brown] Najib knew everything from the beginning. He couldn't have not. 800 00:45:29,727 --> 00:45:31,812 He had designed these companies specially 801 00:45:31,895 --> 00:45:36,692 so that every single financial transaction had to be signed off by him. 802 00:45:37,401 --> 00:45:38,944 We've got the signatures. 803 00:45:41,530 --> 00:45:44,283 I sign so many documents. 804 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,536 If it's recommended... 805 00:45:47,995 --> 00:45:50,038 and the board sanctions it... 806 00:45:50,914 --> 00:45:54,835 normally, as a matter of course, I have to sign it. You see? 807 00:45:57,379 --> 00:46:00,132 The responsibility lies with the prime minister. 808 00:46:00,466 --> 00:46:01,633 He's prime minister. 809 00:46:02,259 --> 00:46:03,886 He set up the company. 810 00:46:04,303 --> 00:46:05,971 He's chairman of the company. 811 00:46:06,722 --> 00:46:09,475 He choose Jho Low, his friend. 812 00:46:14,521 --> 00:46:18,358 [Pua] If you walk the streets and talk about 1MDB Scandal, 813 00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:20,986 probably the number one question 814 00:46:21,069 --> 00:46:23,739 that everyone is asking: "Where is Jho Low? 815 00:46:25,032 --> 00:46:26,033 Where is Jho Low?" 816 00:46:27,451 --> 00:46:31,163 Well, Jho is nowhere to be found, you see? 817 00:46:31,455 --> 00:46:33,790 And I'm here facing the music, you see? 818 00:46:34,750 --> 00:46:37,836 So really, you have to ask yourself, 819 00:46:38,337 --> 00:46:39,171 you know? 820 00:46:40,214 --> 00:46:43,050 "What actually happened, and who was responsible?" 821 00:46:43,967 --> 00:46:45,135 Jho was smart. 822 00:46:45,636 --> 00:46:49,139 I don't want to say that he was some kind of mastermind. 823 00:46:49,223 --> 00:46:52,893 I think he wanted to belong, 824 00:46:53,185 --> 00:46:55,562 and so he found a way to buy himself in. 825 00:46:56,980 --> 00:47:00,359 [Niemietz] I don't know why somebody who has so much to hide 826 00:47:00,859 --> 00:47:02,986 would be flaunting his wealth to the degree 827 00:47:03,070 --> 00:47:05,280 that Jho Low was flaunting his wealth. 828 00:47:05,948 --> 00:47:08,700 When you see people who just really, really, no matter what they have, 829 00:47:08,784 --> 00:47:11,662 need to bring more attention to themselves, 830 00:47:11,745 --> 00:47:13,622 you really have to wonder what's wrong with them. 831 00:47:14,206 --> 00:47:18,627 [interviewer] Do you feel any regret for having brought Jho into this? 832 00:47:18,794 --> 00:47:19,628 Yeah. 833 00:47:21,213 --> 00:47:25,133 I suppose, you know, you make a thousand decisions... 834 00:47:26,635 --> 00:47:28,262 you know, as prime minister. 835 00:47:29,012 --> 00:47:33,100 You might get one or two wrong, and the one or two that you get wrong... 836 00:47:34,601 --> 00:47:38,397 uh, they're the ones who come to haunt you, you know? 837 00:47:39,147 --> 00:47:42,901 After the first US 700 million was stolen, 838 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,737 there was a chance for Najib 839 00:47:46,154 --> 00:47:47,114 to stop it. 840 00:47:47,906 --> 00:47:50,742 He should've exposed Jho Low there and then. 841 00:47:51,451 --> 00:47:54,079 But Jho probably told him, "Don't worry," right? 842 00:47:54,162 --> 00:47:57,624 "You put in more money, I'll get back the money and put it back." 843 00:47:58,208 --> 00:48:02,337 And because he doesn't want to expose Rosmah or Riza or whatever... 844 00:48:03,380 --> 00:48:05,507 what would he have lost then? 700 million. 845 00:48:06,341 --> 00:48:07,718 Today it's seven billion. 846 00:48:12,723 --> 00:48:16,977 [man in Malay] The main problem for us is that we are in huge debt. 847 00:48:18,103 --> 00:48:18,937 That's all. 848 00:48:20,731 --> 00:48:23,442 I'm apprehensive  and I don't want to comment too much. 849 00:48:24,192 --> 00:48:26,904 If I do, who knows, I may end up in jail. 850 00:48:28,864 --> 00:48:32,492 It's difficult to earn a living. 851 00:48:34,161 --> 00:48:37,247 I have two kids. One boy and a girl. 852 00:48:38,248 --> 00:48:39,917 If there's no paddy, we don't have anything. 853 00:48:42,294 --> 00:48:45,881 [Bin Ibrahim] The system seems to protect and promote 854 00:48:46,423 --> 00:48:49,343 stealing and plundering the wealth of this country. 855 00:48:50,636 --> 00:48:54,056 You can't successfully steal money unless you're able to launder it. 856 00:48:54,473 --> 00:48:56,683 It was very easy for Jho Low 857 00:48:56,767 --> 00:48:59,811 to convince the banks to look the other way. 858 00:49:00,395 --> 00:49:03,106 We saw documents that a kindergartner could've forged 859 00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:05,108 and the banks were willing to pass on. 860 00:49:05,984 --> 00:49:09,404 Goldman could be legally responsible on a number of fronts. 861 00:49:09,488 --> 00:49:12,574 There could be fraud, it could be the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. 862 00:49:12,658 --> 00:49:14,785 Tim Leissner, who-- he's the one who pleaded guilty, 863 00:49:14,868 --> 00:49:16,787 for those who don't know, and Andrea Vella, 864 00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:18,872 who's said to have known about the scheme, 865 00:49:18,955 --> 00:49:20,082 were Goldman partners. 866 00:49:20,499 --> 00:49:22,417 They were Goldman partners in the investment bank, 867 00:49:22,501 --> 00:49:25,879 the investment bank that you ran for 12 years. These were your guys. 868 00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:27,923 How does it make you feel? 869 00:49:30,676 --> 00:49:32,719 The investigation's ongoing. 870 00:49:32,803 --> 00:49:35,597 I think Goldman's usual defense in these kinds of situations is 871 00:49:35,806 --> 00:49:37,724 they will try to fight it if they can, 872 00:49:38,225 --> 00:49:40,560 and when it starts to go bad enough, 873 00:49:40,936 --> 00:49:44,189 they tend to throw people under the bus, which is optimal for the firm. 874 00:49:44,272 --> 00:49:47,401 If they can construct a narrative that Tim Leissner 875 00:49:47,484 --> 00:49:50,612 pulled the wool over the eyes of bank risk committee, legal, 876 00:49:50,696 --> 00:49:52,614 then Goldman can save its skin. 877 00:49:53,031 --> 00:49:55,158 But these guys were in such close contact 878 00:49:55,242 --> 00:49:58,161 with very senior people at the bank on a very regular basis, 879 00:49:58,245 --> 00:50:02,708 like Lloyd, like Gary Cohn, like anyone who sat on those risk committees. 880 00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:06,378 When the news came out that Lloyd Blankfein had actually met 881 00:50:06,461 --> 00:50:09,047 with this crazy character Jho Low, 882 00:50:09,506 --> 00:50:13,885 there were rumors on Wall Street that that was why Lloyd stepped down. 883 00:50:14,386 --> 00:50:17,889 I'd like to take a moment to address the ongoing investigations 884 00:50:17,973 --> 00:50:22,227 related to matters with the Malaysian sovereign development fund 1MDB. 885 00:50:23,311 --> 00:50:27,357 The people of Malaysia were defrauded by many individuals, 886 00:50:27,733 --> 00:50:30,485 including the highest members of the prior government. 887 00:50:31,528 --> 00:50:34,781 Tim Leissner, who was a partner at our firm... 888 00:50:36,825 --> 00:50:38,118 was one of those people. 889 00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:41,496 For Leissner's role in that fraud, 890 00:50:42,247 --> 00:50:44,583 we apologize to the Malaysian people. 891 00:50:45,083 --> 00:50:47,919 Then, finally, okay. A public apology. 892 00:50:48,170 --> 00:50:50,338 What the heck you talking about, public apology? 893 00:50:50,422 --> 00:50:51,548 You were corrupt. 894 00:50:51,923 --> 00:50:53,967 You were complicit to the crime, 895 00:50:54,051 --> 00:50:58,680 and you must finally pay, and you must be punished. 896 00:50:59,514 --> 00:51:02,058 These are all obligations 897 00:51:02,642 --> 00:51:06,271 that are going to rest on the Malaysian taxpayer 898 00:51:06,521 --> 00:51:08,273 for the next 20 years. 899 00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:12,986 [Chin] We have to actually pay our debts. 900 00:51:13,403 --> 00:51:15,781 Of course, it has been reduced by the present government, 901 00:51:15,864 --> 00:51:18,533 but we still have a huge debt to pay. 902 00:51:20,077 --> 00:51:23,914 Money that could be spent on building roads, building schools, 903 00:51:23,997 --> 00:51:27,125 will now have to be used to service the debt of 1MDB. 904 00:51:28,001 --> 00:51:30,378 [woman in Malay] The whole of Malaysia suffers from this debt. 905 00:51:30,462 --> 00:51:34,549 My medicine isn't cheap. 906 00:51:35,175 --> 00:51:39,513 I can't get care anymore. 907 00:51:40,138 --> 00:51:45,435 I've never struggled as much as I do now, because of Malaysia's economy. 908 00:51:46,436 --> 00:51:49,773 If you say that, you know, "Can Malaysia revive itself?" 909 00:51:50,190 --> 00:51:52,359 It's going to take us a long time... 910 00:51:52,943 --> 00:51:54,903 but we are trying to get there. 911 00:51:57,197 --> 00:51:59,866 [Rewcastle Brown] Of course, these sorts of rulers 912 00:51:59,950 --> 00:52:02,077 do not want people to understand 913 00:52:02,327 --> 00:52:05,872 how the modern economy works and how they're being ripped off by it. 914 00:52:06,498 --> 00:52:07,582 They just rip them off. 915 00:52:07,666 --> 00:52:11,545 [in Malay] ♪ Never hope for a fisherman ♪ 916 00:52:14,923 --> 00:52:16,800 [Rewcastle Brown] You'll find some poor fisherman 917 00:52:16,883 --> 00:52:19,261 who's living on the margins of existence 918 00:52:19,469 --> 00:52:22,639 and he'll shrug his shoulders and say, "Oh, well, it was great under Najib, 919 00:52:22,722 --> 00:52:25,475 because he gave me a bit of money just before the election, normally. 920 00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:27,435 [in Malay] ♪ If it comes to it that we fall ♪ 921 00:52:27,519 --> 00:52:29,312 ♪ Scatter sweet flowers upon our graves ♪ 922 00:52:29,396 --> 00:52:32,023 I didn't think that justifies what Najib did. 923 00:52:36,111 --> 00:52:38,405 [Bin Ibrahim] Ours is a developing economy. 924 00:52:40,532 --> 00:52:43,326 We have problems of grinding poverty, 925 00:52:44,494 --> 00:52:47,414 quality education, dilapidated schools. 926 00:52:48,248 --> 00:52:50,250 How can you, then... 927 00:52:51,626 --> 00:52:54,796 squander these billions and ignore... 928 00:52:56,006 --> 00:52:57,799 the plight of our people? 929 00:53:01,178 --> 00:53:04,764 I think one has to be fair. I mean, you have to... 930 00:53:05,432 --> 00:53:07,767 be responsible for the things you did, 931 00:53:07,851 --> 00:53:12,230 but you cannot just blame the man at the top for everything that goes wrong. 932 00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:14,482 You know, I don't think that's fair. 933 00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:18,194 To what extent did he have the knowledge, to begin with? 934 00:53:18,653 --> 00:53:21,198 Did he intend to cheat in the first place? 935 00:53:21,573 --> 00:53:24,659 Was there a guilty mind in the first place? 936 00:53:32,959 --> 00:53:35,962 -Hello. -[all] Hello! 937 00:53:36,755 --> 00:53:39,883 -[speaking Malay] Long live UMNO? -[all speaking Malay] Long live! 938 00:53:40,842 --> 00:53:43,303 -Don't be ashamed? -[all] My boss! 939 00:53:45,889 --> 00:53:47,891 [band playing "The Young Ones"] 940 00:54:00,570 --> 00:54:02,989 -♪ The young ones ♪ -[all cheering] 941 00:54:03,073 --> 00:54:05,325 ♪ Darling, we're the young ones... ♪ 942 00:54:05,408 --> 00:54:06,534 [cheering] 943 00:54:07,202 --> 00:54:08,995 ♪ And the young ones ♪ 944 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,457 ♪ Shouldn't be afraid ♪ 945 00:54:14,209 --> 00:54:17,462 ♪ To live, love ♪ 946 00:54:18,505 --> 00:54:20,715 ♪ While the flame is strong ♪ 947 00:54:21,299 --> 00:54:26,429 ♪ 'Cause we may not be The young ones very long ♪ 948 00:54:28,181 --> 00:54:31,184 ♪ Once in every lifetime ♪ 949 00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:33,728 ♪ Comes a love like this ♪ 950 00:54:34,437 --> 00:54:37,691 ♪ Oh, I need you And you need me ♪ 951 00:54:38,108 --> 00:54:41,486 ♪ Oh, my darling, can you see ♪ 952 00:54:41,569 --> 00:54:43,363 ♪ Young dreams ♪ 953 00:54:43,947 --> 00:54:45,907 ♪ Should be dreams together ♪ 954 00:54:47,575 --> 00:54:49,661 ♪ And the young ones ♪ 955 00:54:50,370 --> 00:54:52,914 ♪ Shouldn't be afraid ♪ 956 00:54:54,082 --> 00:54:57,711 ♪ That someday ♪ 957 00:54:58,211 --> 00:55:00,672 ♪ When the years have flown ♪ 958 00:55:00,755 --> 00:55:06,136 ♪ Darling, we'll teach the young ones Of our own ♪ 959 00:55:08,888 --> 00:55:13,435 [audience cheering, calling out] 960 00:55:13,518 --> 00:55:19,524 -[band member calling out in Malay] -[audience calling out in Malay 961 00:55:21,609 --> 00:55:25,530 [vocalizing, shouts in Malay] 962 00:55:27,365 --> 00:55:31,286 ♪ Tomorrow Why wait until tomorrow ♪ 963 00:55:38,084 --> 00:55:40,086 [all cheering] 79310

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