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It definitely started off with Adam
Wingard asking my band,
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Zombie, that's our name, he asked us to
score his very first feature film. And
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it was a terrific experience. It was a
lot of fun.
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It was an interesting film because there
was a lot of pre -production for this
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film.
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The pre -production stages were going on
for months and months.
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And I had just put out a record just of
my own music called Light Echoes. And
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it's all synthesizer music.
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It's very moody and ambient and
electronic.
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But Adam contacted me because he was
really into that album. He really
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that album.
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And he thought, like, a sound that sort
of works similar to what you're doing on
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that album would work really well for
this film. So that was how it all
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We had already been friends for a decade
at that point. And he got in touch and
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said, we want to try to use you.
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You know, would you be available to
write some prerecorded material for the
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film?
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The general themes were developed, some
of them, before shooting had even
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started because Adam Wingard had really
wanted to have
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something in his mind while he was
shooting, while they were filming.
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So some of that music, there were
earlier iterations of it that
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I had produced a year before the film
came out.
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that Adam had wanted to listen to and
sort of help him, I guess, just sort of
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like get in the mood for filming these
scenes.
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There were a few different stages. There
was the pre -record stage and the pre
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-production stage.
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I flew out and was on set for the first
three days of shooting.
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Adam wanted me there to sort of get an
impression of how things were
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gonna look, how things were gonna feel.
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So I spent three days on set and I
actually got to make a cameo in the
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music is very heavily inspired by bands
like Tangerine Dream, Vangelis, stuff
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like that.
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And so I draw very heavily from that.
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They were also, they had great,
incredible albums and film scores in the
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well. So yeah, we definitely wanted it
to have an 80s vibe.
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And I have, I don't know if you can, you
probably can't tell through the video,
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but these are all vintage synthesizers.
These are all synthesizers from the 70s
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and 80s. So I can dial up these sounds
with ease.
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That is sort of my thing.
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Basically, it starts by playing the
scene, and if after a number of
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usually after watching a scene a couple
times, I start getting ideas.
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Ideas start populating in my brain.
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And I'll start, you know, I have all my
synthesizers wired up. I'll start just
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trying to sketch things out as I'm
watching.
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You know, sometimes I just like to do it
in a more improvisational way. I have
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maybe a foundation.
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built, but I want there to be more of a
building and a momentum and stuff. But
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sometimes I'll end up just like, and
this is how I've read that Sean
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and Alan Howarth did it, that they would
watch the film and just improvise along
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until they found ideas that fit, that
worked.
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And that method has worked really well
for me.
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When the filming was finished and the
editing was done and they had a lot to
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edit and they were ready for me to start
working, I would wake up early
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in the morning. I'm an early riser. I
wake up early and I get to work and I
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all day.
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And then in like the evening, maybe like
around dinner time, I make mixes of
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everything that I've worked on for that
day.
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And I send them to Adam because at the
time they were, he's out in L .A.
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and I'm in New York. So literally I was
sending him dailies,
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essentially. It was dailies of the
score. I would send him tracks that I'm
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working on.
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And he had, Adam actually is a very,
he's a very musical guy. He's
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released. some synthesizer albums that
are good.
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He definitely has ideas when it comes to
music. So when I would send him ideas,
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sometimes he would come back and be
like, this part is really good, but what
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about if we took this part and maybe
slowed it down by like half its tempo,
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know? It was like, hmm, that's an
interesting idea. I'll try that.
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And it always worked out. Adam's a very
musical guy and working with him was
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easy because...
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I feel like we could communicate on a...
Like, we had a good communication,
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where sometimes directors literally just
have no musical training
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whatsoever, no idea how to talk about
music.
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So when they send notes, they can
sometimes be very ambiguous and a little
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confusing sounding.
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But Adam always knew exactly what he
wanted, and he knew how to phrase it.
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He knew how to explain it in a way that
I would understand.
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It was a great time working with him. We
had a lot of fun.
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That's me.
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I wanted something that had sort of a
vulnerable and
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melancholy feel that we could connect to
Micah's
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character. And all of these themes, a
lot of the tracks on the score are
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different motifs for each character
interplaying with each other.
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And so the main theme was a combination
of what I call Micah's motif,
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which is just a really simple five or
seven note motif. It's
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played on my Chord Poly 6.
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And it has, like, sort of almost like a
synth flute kind of sound. I used my
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Sequential Circuit Profit 1, Pro 1, for
a sequence that runs underneath
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all of that that sort of is meant to
underscore the
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tension that's building.
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The film is very tense, but nothing
happens for a while, you know?
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And so it was like we had to really make
sure that we're ratcheting up the
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tension to really get things taped
correctly.
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It was the combination of what I call
Micah's theme and this sort of tension
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motif that I would bring back every now
and then that underlined some of the
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more...
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You know, the moments in the film where
maybe the main characters are not paying
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as much attention as they should, and
you worry about them. You worry that
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they're getting themselves into trouble.
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Thanks for the drink.
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You're welcome.
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I don't want it, though.
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You can have it.
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There's a very short David motif.
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Um, that is a combination of major
-minor tonalities, sort
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of, that, that I meant to be
intentionally, uh, emotionally
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Uh, you, you don't know how you're
supposed to feel hearing this. Just like
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when, when David first shows up, you're,
you're not sure how you're supposed to
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feel about this guy. Like, obviously
he's beautiful, he's charming.
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He's got a backstory and it seems to
check out, but it's a very brief motif
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only shows up a few times.
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Other than that, most of the other
themes were sort of situational.
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We either spoke on the phone or emailed
back and forth literally every day for
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the entire...
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duration of that production we had what
felt like infinite time for pre
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-production and then production lasted
like a couple months but then like post
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-production it was like all these all
this time i thought i was gonna have so
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much more time and then bam deadline uh
but it all worked out you know most most
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of my work was already the foundation of
all my work was done all of my
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After being on set and meeting Dan
Steven, meeting Micah Monroe,
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getting to see them in their characters,
I already had ideas for themes for
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them. So essentially the minute I got
home, I just started sketching it out. I
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just started sketching out ideas so that
as soon as they had a locked cut for me
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to work on, I could start piecing things
together. And I already had all the
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groundwork done.
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It was just sort of the logistical
problem of making it all fit,
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making it all work.
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Sundance was really great. It was super
cool. The film went over, like, super
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well. The audience was so into it, you
know, because, like, it's just one of
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those films that keeps taking these left
turns.
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The audience was not prepared for it.
The audience, you could tell, most of
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people in the audience were just like,
had no idea what they were watching.
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And as things played out, they were just
like, what is going on? It was a
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terrific, it was one of the better
audience responses to a film that I've
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on that I've ever seen. I'm firmly
against changing anything that I've ever
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done. But I would say that if I were to
score that film today, yeah, it would
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probably end up being a little bit
different just because it's been 10
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and, you know, you sort of develop as an
artist.
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So there isn't anything I would change
about that score.
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I'm very happy with it. I'm very pleased
with the way it turned out.
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But, yeah, it's possible that if I had
to score that film today,
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it might end up sounding different.
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But I would certainly not change
anything that I've done. I'm very happy
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the way it turned out, and I thought
that everyone else seemed happy with it
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well.
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