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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,080 If you look across the globe and back through time, 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,960 every culture has looked up at the night sky and wondered, 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,000 are we alone? 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,320 And with the possible detection of signs of life on a planet 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,320 far beyond our solar system, 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,040 we are getting tantalisingly close to finding an answer. 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,680 As a space scientist, I explore the universe, 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,360 and I'm more and more convinced that there is life out there. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,440 So in this series of lectures, we are going to look 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,160 and ask the question, is there life beyond the Earth? 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,920 Leaving Earth's orbit. 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,080 Uh, Houston, we have a problem. 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,600 Take third exit to Mars. 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:50,760 WHISTLE 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,120 ROBOT BEEPS 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,960 Mars rover collected. 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,280 Warning. 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,360 James Webb Telescope acquired. 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,320 Navigate off road. 20 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:08,640 CRAFT BEEPS 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,120 Voyager probe acquired. 22 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,760 Approaching light speed. 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,440 APPLAUSE 24 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,120 CHEERING 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,760 Welcome to the 200th anniversary of the Christmas Lectures 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,280 from right here in the Royal Institution, 27 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,520 supported by CGI. 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,640 Now, let's go back 4.5 billion years 29 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,360 to the time soon after the birth of the solar system. 30 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,240 That was quite a tumultuous time. 31 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,240 Things were moving around all over the place, 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,680 and sometimes there were real cataclysmic crashes. 33 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,720 What we just saw there was the formation of the moon. 34 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,680 I'm Dame Dr Maggie Aderin-Pocock, 35 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,880 and I describe myself as a self-certified lunatic, 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,120 because I am just mesmerised by the moon. 37 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,400 So in that early solar system, 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,840 we think that a body about the size of planet Mars 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,040 crashed into the early Earth and sent dust and debris 40 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,840 up into the atmosphere. 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,400 That coalesced to form our moon. 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,560 Now, this is the Earth as we know it now - 43 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,600 but back then the Earth was like a molten rock, 44 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,920 and the moon was also a molten rock, but in orbit about it. 45 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:36,840 But I would always like to travel back to that time, 46 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,600 because the moon was much closer to planet Earth, 47 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,520 and it must have been like a golden orb in the sky. 48 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,080 Quite magnificent. 49 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,840 So all my life I have been absolutely fascinated by space, 50 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,880 and I think the first trigger for me was actually my father. 51 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,800 So this is a picture of my father. 52 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,680 Unfortunately, he's passed away, 53 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,000 but he actually got that sort of that spark of interest in space, 54 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,640 because he used to tell me tales about when he was a child, 55 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:06,000 because he was born in Nigeria - and living in Nigeria, 56 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,920 he used to actually have to travel 12 miles to get from home to school, 57 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:12,440 and that journey was on unlit roads, 58 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,120 and so when the moon was up, it would light his way, 59 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,280 and so the moon was my father's friend. 60 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,400 So if it was my father's friend, it was going to be my friend too. 61 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,440 Now, in inner city London, there was lots of light pollution. 62 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,840 So when you look up at the night sky, you don't see many stars - 63 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,000 but what you can see is the moon. 64 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,440 As a child, I used to always love looking at the moon. 65 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,120 So when I was about six or seven, I dreamed of getting into space. 66 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,160 Now, I co-host a television show called the Sky At Night, 67 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,760 and it's the longest running science show in the world - 68 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,480 but my predecessor was a chap called Patrick Moore, 69 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,800 and he'd say, you know, if you have a telescope, 70 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,760 this is what you can see in the night sky. 71 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,720 And so I decided then that I would build my own telescope. 72 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,560 And so this was when I was about your age, I was about 14. 73 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,360 So to show you how I did that, I'm going to need two volunteers. 74 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,520 Oh, I love the way the hands go shooting up. 75 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,120 OK! Perfect. OK. 76 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,040 Both of you. Yes, with your matching Christmas jumpers. 77 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,560 Please come on down. 78 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,640 APPLAUSE 79 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,720 First of all, to start off, what are your names? 80 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,720 - What's your name? - Sophie. - Sophie. Very nice to meet you. 81 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,600 - And what's your name? - Emma. - Emma. 82 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,160 Sophie and Emma, thank you. 83 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,160 So you're going to be part of this demonstration. 84 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,040 Now, Sophie, what I want you to do 85 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,000 is I want to show you how I made my own telescope. 86 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,040 And, Emma, if you can come over here, 87 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,240 we'll be doing a demonstration on that in a few minutes. Thank you. 88 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,880 OK, now, first of all, I've got a powder in here. 89 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,880 So what this is, it's like an abrasive powder. 90 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,960 And what I'm going to do is I'm going to sprinkle 91 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,320 that abrasive powder 92 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,800 on this piece of glass. 93 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,520 So this is just a plain piece of glass. 94 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,040 And then what I'm going to do is I'm going to add some water, 95 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,800 and I'm going to smoosh that around. 96 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,280 But what I'm doing is making an abrasive paste. 97 00:04:58,280 --> 00:05:01,560 And I'm going to put this piece of glass on top of that piece of glass. 98 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,920 And then what I did, I spent many, many months sort of grinding. 99 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,840 Now, OK, you give it a go. 100 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,640 OK. So what you're doing is you're actually grinding 101 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,320 that piece of glass to shape it. 102 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,160 Now, I'm going to leave you doing that. 103 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,600 In the meantime, what I want to do 104 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,520 is talk about the history of the telescope. 105 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,920 Now, the first person to apply for a patent for their telescope 106 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,360 was a chap called Hans Lippershey. 107 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,640 Now, he was a Dutch spectacle maker. 108 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,760 This is about in 1608, and spectacles were all the rage 109 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,400 and they'd just been invented - 110 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,440 and so now if you step over here, 111 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,040 what he realised is if you put a lens which you use for reading 112 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,760 and a lens that you use for distance viewing together 113 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,480 and you move them around, what you get is magnification. 114 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,000 Now, Emma, I don't know if you can see at the back of the room - 115 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,480 yes, someone is holding a sign there. 116 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,160 Now, I can see "my favourite planet is." 117 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,600 Now, can you read the bottom word? 118 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,520 I think it starts with an M, but I'm not sure about the rest. 119 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,640 OK. So it's a bit blurry. OK. 120 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,520 Now, what I want to do is do exactly what Hans Lippershey did. 121 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,400 So move these lenses around and see if you can actually see 122 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,760 that image up there. 123 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,320 So if you can, can you look through? OK. Perfect. 124 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,800 Can you read it through here? 125 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,120 - Mars. - Ah, OK. 126 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,000 But that's what Hans Lippershey did. 127 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,840 He effectively put these two lenses together and got magnification. 128 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:23,200 So thank you. A round of applause for our volunteer. 129 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,480 APPLAUSE 130 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,040 Thank you. 131 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,120 So that is what Galileo did. 132 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,640 He took a telescope like that... Oh, lovely. 133 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,880 ..and made it into something like this. 134 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,520 So this is effectively a Galilean telescope. 135 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,880 And so you've got a lens at one end, a lens at the other, 136 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,080 and then you can actually sort of adjust the focus, 137 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,760 just as we were doing there, with this bit here. 138 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,960 Don't forget we're going back to 1608 - 139 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,160 and if you've ever seen any old buildings 140 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,920 and the glass in the windows of those old buildings, 141 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,720 it's not very good quality glass. 142 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,920 And so the question was, could you still get magnification, 143 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,400 but without passing the light through the lens? 144 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,400 Well, that brings us back to this demonstration. 145 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,760 Now, do you want to give it another grind again? 146 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,000 Ooh! See, with that abrasive paste, can you feel what's happening? 147 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,680 - Yes. - Yeah. Because I think you're actually grinding away the glass. 148 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:12,800 Yeah. 149 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,160 And what actually happens is... Oops. 150 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,920 ..the one on the bottom becomes convex, 151 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,160 and so it's like a hill, 152 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,800 and the one above becomes concave. 153 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,280 - So it's like you scrape out the glass. - Yeah. - Yeah! 154 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,960 Now, when you are grinding, 155 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,520 that results in a shape that is a spherical surface. 156 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,120 Now, the problem with a sphere is it doesn't bring light 157 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,800 to a nice tight focus, because what we're trying to do 158 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,120 is have a mirror that takes light from a very, very distant object, 159 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,880 it hits the glass mirror, and then we bring it down to a focus. 160 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,440 Now, unfortunately, a spherical surface can't do that. 161 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,000 But what we can do is continue working the telescope mirror 162 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,680 to form something called a parabola, which is a different shape, 163 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,400 but it brings light from a distance to a sharp focus. 164 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,640 And so that's just what we did. So thank you very much. 165 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,800 I think a round of applause for our volunteer again. Thank you. 166 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,440 APPLAUSE 167 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,000 Perfect. 168 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,880 So what we actually need is to coat that glass 169 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,520 with something like aluminium or silver 170 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,520 to get a really shiny surface. 171 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,520 And that's what we've got in here. 172 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,040 So this is the basis of a new telescope. 173 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,400 Now, the person who came up with the idea of this telescope 174 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,800 was Sir Isaac Newton, 175 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,440 and Sir Isaac Newton realised that you could actually get magnification 176 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:26,920 by using a mirror. 177 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,640 But the light path through this is very different - 178 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,280 and I can show you with smoke and lasers. 179 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,560 So thank you. If you put the lasers on. 180 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:36,400 MACHINE WHIRS 181 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,440 Ah. See? Smoke and mirrors, that's what it's all about. 182 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:40,960 Ooh! 183 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,120 Now, at the moment, these lasers are representing the light 184 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,720 from a distant object - 185 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,560 so maybe a star or a galaxy that is a long, long, long way away. 186 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:55,320 So the light comes in in nice parallel lines, 187 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,400 and then what happens is that light will travel through the telescope 188 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,840 and it will hit our reflecting mirror. 189 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,360 And then that mirror, as we said, 190 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,840 is designed to actually bring that light to a nice tight focus. 191 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,560 {\an8}So it throws the light back up towards this flat mirror here. 192 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:11,800 Now, this flat mirror you can buy off the shelf - 193 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,200 and what that does is, if I take the cap off... 194 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,560 ..and a bit more smoke, 195 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:19,560 you might be able to see the laser light coming out through the top. 196 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:22,400 Can you see the laser light coming out of the top? 197 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,640 So that light has travelled from a distant star, 198 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,280 travelled through the telescope, reflected off our primary mirror, 199 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,720 it goes up to this secondary mirror, and then it is sent out to our eye. 200 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:36,400 Now, these days we have very good quality glass, 201 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,360 but the challenge is, if you actually want to make 202 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,920 a really big telescope, imagine sort of getting a lens that big 203 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,560 and grinding and polishing - it's really quite hard. 204 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:48,120 And so, now, for the bigger telescopes that we use 205 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,760 right here on the ground, we actually use the Newtonian method. 206 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,080 And what I was making was a Newtonian telescope, 207 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,480 because it's quite a simple design. 208 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,200 And so now we have some amazing telescopes out there, 209 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,720 telescopes like the VLT. 210 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,800 Now, VLT stands for Very Large Telescope. 211 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,360 That is truly the name of this telescope - the VLT. 212 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,280 So you saw the mirror at the back end of this telescope, 213 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,240 the primary mirror of these telescopes 214 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,680 is eight metres in diameter. 215 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:17,160 It's not just one very large telescope, 216 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,440 it's four very large telescopes, 217 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,800 each one with a primary mirror of eight metres. 218 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,560 But the VLT is getting quite old, it's been out there for 25 years, 219 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:28,800 and so now they're building the next generation of space telescope. 220 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,400 And we simply call that the ELT - 221 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,160 the Extremely Large Telescope. 222 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,640 And this is it. 223 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,840 The ELT actually has a primary mirror 39 metre in diameter. 224 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,440 And so, now, this isn't a single block of glass, 225 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,400 it's made actually of a number of sections which are put together 226 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,520 to make this glorious telescope. 227 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,440 So the ELT will probably be coming online 228 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,800 in about the next two or three years. 229 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,600 We'll point it up at the night sky and get glorious images - 230 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,800 but the telescope I hope to see in my lifetime, 231 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,520 we simply call the OWL. 232 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,720 And that stands for the Overwhelmingly Large Telescope. 233 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,000 Truly, I am not making this up! 234 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,640 And so this is a picture of the Overwhelmingly Large Telescope. 235 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,400 If we build this telescope, 236 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,880 this telescope will have a primary mirror of 100 metres in diameter. 237 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,320 So we're talking about a mirror the size of a football pitch. 238 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,040 And, of course, with a telescope, the bigger your mirror, 239 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,640 the more light you can gather, and so the fainter objects you can see. 240 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:28,640 Now, I mentioned that I sort of ground and polished 241 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,440 my own telescope mirror when I was about 14 years of age, 242 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,720 and when I actually got the telescope together, 243 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,120 I was so excited. 244 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,520 And I kept on thinking, so what do I want to have a look at? 245 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,680 What is my first object in the night sky that I want to look at? 246 00:11:40,680 --> 00:11:43,280 And so, of course, the first thing was the moon. 247 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,600 Now, it turns out I was following in some very good footsteps, 248 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,640 because one of the first things that Galileo did 249 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,680 is he also looked at the moon - 250 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:52,600 and these are the images he took. 251 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,520 This is Galileo looking through the telescope 252 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,320 and making a drawing of what he saw. 253 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,240 You see all sorts of craters 254 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,440 and all sorts of things on the moon's surface. 255 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,720 Before that, people thought the moon's surface 256 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,640 was just a round sphere - but now there was details on it. 257 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,520 Details you could see with the telescope. 258 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,680 And so some people started speculating, you know, 259 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:13,960 perhaps some of those darker patches are sort of large oceans 260 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,320 on the moon's surface. 261 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,240 And if you have oceans and mountains and things like that, 262 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,560 maybe there is life on the moon. 263 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:23,360 And so what I'd like to do is invite someone who actually works here 264 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,760 at the Royal Institution - Charlotte New. 265 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,080 APPLAUSE 266 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,880 So Charlotte, you work here at the Royal Institution - 267 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,160 and I think you've got something from the archive here to show us. 268 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,840 I have, yes. So first we have this wonderfully old book 269 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,280 that was first published in 1638. 270 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,480 - 1638. - 1638, 271 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,400 and it was published by and written by a guy called John Wilkins, 272 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,960 who was a clergyman and a scientist. 273 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,560 Ah! Yes. 274 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:57,000 And it details information about the moon, 275 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,160 so it has a very interesting title piece. 276 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,400 OK, lovely. 277 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:05,720 And so this is "a discourse tending to prove that 'tis probable 278 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,520 "there may be another habitable world in the moon." 279 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:10,960 - In the moon, yeah. - Oh! 280 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,640 So I think, inspired by things like Galileo's pictures 281 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,040 and pictures that people were taking with telescopes, 282 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,680 from seeing that surface and realising that it's not smooth, 283 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:23,680 people started to speculate as to whether there's life on the moon. 284 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:25,720 - They did. - But I think they went further as well, didn't they? 285 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,760 They did - and he even goes on to say on another page here... 286 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,280 ..that you can get there by means 287 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,920 "of a flying chariot." 288 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,400 DR ADERIN-POCOCK LAUGHS 289 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,960 So they were talking about taking a flying chariot to the moon 290 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,560 - and hopefully, I guess, to meet the Moon People. - Indeed. 291 00:13:41,560 --> 00:13:45,120 OK, perfect. And so that was the current state of technology. 292 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,760 We started using the telescope, we were looking at the moon 293 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,760 and thinking that there might be life out there. 294 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,760 So the next important breakthrough was, I guess, photography. 295 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,360 - Photography, yes. - And we've got an example here. - Yes. 296 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,880 So this is a wonderful glass plate taken by Warren De La Rue in 1859, 297 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,400 and it's one of the first full pictures of the moon. 298 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,680 - OK. And so we've moved on some 200 years now. - Yeah. 299 00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:07,840 So photography was quite new at this stage. 300 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,120 - Yes. So it's actually announced here in 1839. - Oh, right. - Yes. 301 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,640 - Part of our history. - Part of our history. Lovely. 302 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,520 But I think this is a glorious image. 303 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,360 I see, looking up there, I would like to have a projection like that 304 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,840 in my room - as a self-certified lunatic, 305 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,840 - that would be lovely to have. - Indeed. 306 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,680 So thank you so much, Charlotte. 307 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,400 - It was lovely to see these exhibits. - Thank you very much. - Thank you. 308 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,400 APPLAUSE 309 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,440 So that's what I find most interesting, 310 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,320 is the advent of photography in terms of astronomy 311 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,720 was a major leap forward - 312 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,640 and for many, many years we were using photographic plates 313 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,920 to capture images of the night sky, but in glorious detail. 314 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,640 Then we started taking photographs of what we saw through a telescope. 315 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,800 But then the next step forward was actually to get out there. 316 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,400 What if we could get closer to the moon, not through a telescope, 317 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,840 but actually getting physically closer to the moon? 318 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,480 And one of the first probes to do this was actually called Luna 3. 319 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,080 Now, Luna 3 was made by the Soviet Union, the USSR, 320 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,040 and it actually went on a journey out there into space 321 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,120 and went and orbited the moon and came back home. 322 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,080 Now, one of the things you might not have realised 323 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,520 is we only see one side of the moon. 324 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,840 That's because as the moon orbits the Earth, 325 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,480 the moon spins on its axis, but as it orbits, 326 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,360 the same side of the moon is always pointing towards Earth. 327 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,400 And so people got quite excited. 328 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,160 Maybe that's where the Moon People lived, 329 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,080 on the far side of the moon, which we couldn't see from Earth. 330 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,920 Now, we don't have any pictures taken by Luna 3, 331 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,560 because that was quite some time ago - 332 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,920 but I'd like to show you this picture. 333 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,440 Now, this picture is actually a real picture 334 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,560 and it shows us the far side of the moon. 335 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,400 So there is a probe with a camera on it, 336 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,400 and it's looking towards the moon and towards the Earth. 337 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,000 First thing to say about this image is the Moon People are not there. 338 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,760 But I think this picture is quite amazing 339 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,760 because it shows you the moon and it shows our planet Earth, 340 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,400 and so it just sets the scale. 341 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,720 As I say, this isn't photoshopped, this is a real image. 342 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,320 So again, we've gone through that journey. 343 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,840 We look at the moon with the naked eye, 344 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,320 we look at the moon with a telescope, 345 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:05,560 we take photographic plates, 346 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,040 we actually journey out to the moon and then come back - 347 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,280 but the next step, of course, was landing on the moon, 348 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,720 and that happened in 1969, 349 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,680 with Neil Armstrong stepping out onto the moon's surface. 350 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,440 Now, the moon landings were very much driven by a race. 351 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,520 It was what they called the Space Race. 352 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,880 So it was the USSR against the USA, 353 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,720 and they were both trying to show that they were the better nation 354 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,360 or they were the better people, 355 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,400 and so they had this technological battle in space. 356 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,400 But since then, we've been working in an era of collaboration 357 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,400 where different nations actually pool their resources in space. 358 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,600 Space is incredibly expensive, 359 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,120 and so in 1975, you get things like the formation 360 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,080 of the European Space Agency - 361 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,360 so the countries of Europe putting their money together 362 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,600 to go further into space. 363 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,760 Now, I am incredibly excited, because in the theatre today, 364 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,120 we are going to be joined by the latest generation 365 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,360 of ESA astronauts, and they're going to come into the theatre here. 366 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,200 And this is Rosemary Coogan, Meganne Christian and John McFall. 367 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,640 Please come in. 368 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,720 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 369 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,640 I can't help it. I always smile when I see astronauts. Ooh! 370 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,240 So thank you very much for joining me today. 371 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,480 Now, Rosemary, I'd like to start with you. 372 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,840 Now, we were talking about international collaboration, 373 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,840 like the formation of the European Space Agency. 374 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,720 Why is that important, and what does it mean to you? 375 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,400 Yeah, it's so important. 376 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,720 I absolutely love with working with people from all over the world, 377 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,280 all over the planet. 378 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,520 It really started for me when I was in my 20s, 379 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,720 the first time I lived abroad, and it was completely life-changing, 380 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,160 because for space, it is so important - 381 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,200 to get to space, to live there is incredibly difficult. 382 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,000 It's something we can't do alone 383 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,480 and so we need the countries to work together. 384 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,720 We achieve so much more when we do that. 385 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,560 - Yes. - And it also gives this platform for countries to work together 386 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,240 towards a shared goal at times where I think we really need it. 387 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,560 Yes - and that's what I really like. 388 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,120 From space, you don't see countries, you don't see barriers, 389 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:04,880 you just see planet Earth. 390 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,800 And I think it's really lovely that space can unite like that. 391 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,440 Perfect. Thank you. 392 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,720 Now, Meganne, why is it still important to send humans into space, 393 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,760 and especially when we're looking for signs of life out there? 394 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,520 Well, we are doing a really good job with robots on Mars, right? 395 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,280 We have rovers. 396 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,320 But rovers can only go so far and so fast. 397 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,480 So we really need humans there as well, 398 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,560 because humans can do things faster, 399 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,880 humans have a kind of intuition 400 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,360 and are really good at problem-solving. 401 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:37,320 So if we want to speed up our search for life elsewhere, 402 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,520 we need to send humans there to do it. 403 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,320 I'm happy to be that human! 404 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,760 So are we! 405 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,760 THEY LAUGH 406 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,080 It's slightly more likely for you, I think. 407 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,600 Now, John, I'd like to ask, what does it take to be an astronaut? 408 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,720 Well, typically astronauts come from a test pilot background 409 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,480 or a science background, usually. 410 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,360 Now, all of us actually here come from a science background. 411 00:18:57,360 --> 00:18:59,920 Me, in particular, I'm a doctor, a medical doctor, 412 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:01,600 an orthopaedic surgeon. 413 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,320 But what's interesting about astronauts, 414 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,920 is we are not brilliant at any one thing - 415 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,520 and the thing about being an astronaut, 416 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,600 is you actually have to be good at many, many different things. 417 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,200 So not just have a scientific background 418 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,720 or a test pilot background, but be good communicators, 419 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,080 be resilient, problem solvers, 420 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,120 self-aware, all sorts of stuff. 421 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:21,960 - So you need a broad, broad set of skills. - Lovely. 422 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,160 Now, John, I believe you're the first person 423 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,080 with a physical disability to actually be certified 424 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,280 for life on the International Space Station. 425 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,600 Absolutely, yes. I'm a leg amputee. 426 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,240 I lost my leg on a motorcycle about 25 years ago, 427 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,440 and I use a prosthesis. 428 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,520 And a couple of years ago, the space agency, European Space Agency, 429 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,960 wanted to see if it was possible to clear the path to space 430 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,080 for an astronaut with a physical disability. 431 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,560 And at the beginning of this year, actually, I was the first person 432 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,480 with a physical disability, as you say, to be medically certified 433 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,720 to fly to the International Space Station. 434 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,800 - This is a world first. - Yes, I know - 435 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,480 but I find it really exciting, 436 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,200 because it is opening up sort of that life in space 437 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,560 to more and more people. 438 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:01,800 So thank you very much. 439 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,360 Now, John, if you could stay with me and Rosemary and Meganne, 440 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:06,720 if you could take a seat on the hot step, 441 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,760 I think you'll be joining me again later. 442 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,680 APPLAUSE OK, big applause. What the heck? 443 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,280 Thank you so much. 444 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,240 Now, John, we were talking about earlier 445 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,880 what it takes to be an astronaut. 446 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,160 - And so I effectively want to put you through your paces. - Oh, dear. 447 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,200 Yes! 448 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,200 THEY LAUGH 449 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,640 - But on top of that, I want to give you a bit of competition. - Oh, OK. 450 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,920 OK. So now I need a volunteer from the audience - 451 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,040 but, but, I need someone who is good on fair ground rides, 452 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,160 who doesn't mind you know getting spun around and things like that. 453 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,840 OK? Oh, OK. That is a classic Christmas jumper. 454 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,480 Come on down. 455 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,600 APPLAUSE 456 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,080 Lovely to meet you. 457 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,360 Now, first of all, what's your name? 458 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:46,960 - I'm George. - George. 459 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,320 Now, if you'd like to come up here, this is your challenge. 460 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,760 And so what we have here is a dexterity test. 461 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,080 So I'm going to hold up one of these. 462 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,880 Each one of these pegs has a planet on the outside, 463 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,640 the name is also written here, 464 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,880 and that needs to match a planet on this board with holes. 465 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,920 And so what we're going to do is I'm going to get you to put these in. 466 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,160 Now, they're quite a tight fit, OK? 467 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,000 And so now, John, I think you've done something like this before. 468 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,640 We do some reaction stuff and sort of perceptual speed, 469 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,760 - this sort of stuff in the selection, yeah. - OK. 470 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,320 - So you're on home turf here. - Mmm... Yeah, maybe a little bit. 471 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,920 Maybe. OK. 472 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,520 But to make it a little bit more interesting, what I want to do is, 473 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,040 well, let's just do it. 474 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,800 Bring on the Chairs of Doom! 475 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,240 THUNDERCLAP 476 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,920 APPLAUSE 477 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,520 Unfortunately, I think due to budget cuts, 478 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,080 the Chairs of Doom actually got a bit cut down - 479 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,520 but, please, take a seat. 480 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,240 So what we're going to do here, we're going to spin you around 481 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,600 for 20 seconds, so you'll be a bit disoriented. 482 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,960 Then I want you to get up and go and put the pegs in 483 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,440 as quickly as you can. 484 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,960 And we're going to give you 15 seconds to do that. 485 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,800 OK. Yes! 486 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,800 - And, now, John, if George wins, he's the new astronaut. - Yeah. 487 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,720 - You're leaving with this on. - Yeah. 488 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,720 THEY LAUGH 489 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,400 OK, start the clock. 490 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,840 OK. So 19, 18... OK. 491 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,720 We're spinning quite fast, actually! 492 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,240 I'm glad I'm not doing this. I don't think I'd survive! 493 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,080 John, you're going into orbit. Come back. 494 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,400 Am I going to still going to be in the theatre by the end of this? 495 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,200 I know! So how are we doing? 496 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,760 Oh, six, five, four... 497 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,720 ..three, two, one. 498 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,840 OK. 499 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,560 - OK. - Whew! 500 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,920 OK, so now, John and George, I will be marking you on accuracy as well. 501 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,520 So we've got to count down. 502 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,480 So nine, eight, seven... 503 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,640 ..six, five, four, 504 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,360 three, two, one. 505 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:43,720 Put your pegs down. John, John. 506 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,320 That was sneaky. 507 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,960 - Right to the line. - Right to the line! 508 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,840 Make the most of every second. OK! 509 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,960 Ooh. I don't know what happened to Jupiter there! 510 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,480 OK. So how did you find that? 511 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,200 George, let's start with you. 512 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,040 It was quite difficult because I was still spinning. 513 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,440 Reeling? Yes, yes, from the chair. 514 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,640 And so let's see. OK. You've got one, two, three, four. 515 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,040 Four, I think that's a good effort. 516 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,240 OK, but now over to the trained astronaut. 517 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,840 OK, how many we've got? One, two, three, four, five, six. 518 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,160 OK. 519 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,360 I'm sorry, you don't get the suit. SHE LAUGHS 520 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:15,680 Well, thank you so much - 521 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,920 - and a big round of applause for George, please. - Well done, mate. 522 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,640 APPLAUSE 523 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,080 Thank you so much, John. 524 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,720 We've put you through your paces - and you've survived. 525 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,280 So if you'd like to go and sit on the astronaut seat. 526 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,880 And, Rosemary, would you like to come up? 527 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,080 APPLAUSE 528 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,000 Now, Rosemary, one of the things - you haven't been into space yet, 529 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,320 but you're in training and you're training for a mission to the ISS. 530 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,360 - Is that correct? - Yeah, that's right. - Lovely. 531 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:42,800 Now, let's see what the ISS is. 532 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,360 - The ISS is the International Space Station. - Yes. 533 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,800 So this is the International Space Station. 534 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,200 It's kind of as it sounds. 535 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,240 - It is a station, a laboratory that is flying through space. - OK. 536 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,880 So it's flying above us 250 miles above the surface of the Earth, 537 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,360 and it's going 18,000 miles an hour. 538 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:03,120 So it's going very, very quickly, 539 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:04,960 and it goes round and round the Earth 540 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,080 - every one and a half hours. - Oh! 541 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,000 So, so, so every 45 minutes you get a sunrise and sunset. 542 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,640 Yeah. 16 times a day on orbit 543 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,800 you will see a sunrise and a sunset. If you're awake all day! 544 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,720 Of course, if you're awake all day. And so we've got the solar panels, 545 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,640 we've got the International Space Station. 546 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,280 - And also we've got these different modules. - Yeah, exactly - 547 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,160 and, you know, we have modules at the front from NASA, 548 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,760 - from ESA, from JAXA. - Japanese space agency. - Yeah, that's right. 549 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,800 - We have Roscosmos at the back here. - Russian. 550 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,280 So there's five different space agencies all contributing to this. 551 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,240 We've got 23 countries already within ESA, 552 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,120 so it's loads and loads of countries. 553 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:42,800 It really is international. 554 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,720 And essentially it's a place to do science, 555 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,240 because we have microgravity, or weightlessness, 556 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,480 when we're on the ISS, 557 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,680 and we can learn so much in this environment 558 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,160 that we can't learn on Earth. 559 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,320 So the majority of these modules are laboratory, scientific modules, 560 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,560 but we do have a few that aren't. 561 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,760 So right in the middle, we've got the cupola here 562 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,560 where we see these iconic views, 563 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,440 and just above it is what we call Node 3 - 564 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,240 and this is where we have the gym, we have the toilets, 565 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,320 and just next door to it is Node 1, where we do our food preparation. 566 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,760 OK. And speaking of food, I think we've prepared a snack earlier. 567 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,800 THEY LAUGH 568 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,960 So, yeah. So we brought in some space food, 569 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,840 just because I thought it was kind of interesting 570 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,120 to see the different types of food that we can eat in space. 571 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:28,600 So this here is a space chocolate bar. 572 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,040 And it actually says on the back, 573 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,280 "the healthiest chocolate bar in the universe," 574 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,680 which I thought was really fun. 575 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,280 - That's quite a statement! - You can just unwrap this and eat this. 576 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,680 And then we have lasagne, which just gets put straight in the oven. 577 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,400 And this is macaroni cheese, 578 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,680 - which has been completely dehydrated. - Ooh. 579 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,520 So you use this opening here to put in hot water from the machines 580 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,760 and in five to ten minutes 581 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,160 it will become beautiful macaroni cheese again. 582 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,520 When you say beautiful, have you tried any of this food? 583 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,040 I haven't tried the macaroni cheese, 584 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,400 but I've had some other space food and I thought it was great. 585 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,800 - And, you know, sending it up like this... - She has to say that! 586 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,000 - ..is much, much lighter. - OK, lovely. 587 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,920 But after a number of processes in the body, 588 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,440 I guess food has to come out. 589 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,360 - Yes. - Now, going to the loo in space, I was told, was...challenging, 590 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,080 I think that's the best way to put it. 591 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,880 Yeah - and it's something we get asked about a lot, 592 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,440 and it's something that I wouldn't have really thought about, 593 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,320 you know, before being in this role, 594 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,440 but actually when you go to the toilet on Earth, 595 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,840 everything kind of goes down. You know where you're going 596 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,320 and it's easy and simple. 597 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,360 But in microgravity, you go to the toilet, 598 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:28,760 - things can start floating around... - OK, I'm backing away now. 599 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,240 - ..and you need to stop that happening. - Yes! - Exactly. 600 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,400 So actually they've got a great system. 601 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,960 So to go for a wee in space, you have a funnel 602 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,360 attached to a long hose that has an air flow going through it. 603 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,920 And when you wee in there, you know exactly where you're aiming. 604 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,240 - OK, lovely. - And everything is simple. 605 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,560 - And it gets sucked away? - Exactly. - Yes! 606 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,640 - Sucked away and recycled... - Oh, recycled. 607 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,120 ..into fresh drinking water. 608 00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:49,360 So let's just think about that for a moment. 609 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:52,480 So pee and other things go through the system 610 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,160 - and they get recycled. - Yeah. 611 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,040 - Recycled into drinking water? - Yeah. 612 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,520 All of the water on the ISS - so this is the sweat, 613 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,440 the water we use to wash with, the water vapour in the air 614 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,200 we breathe out and our urine, it all goes and gets cleaned 615 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,760 and turned back into drinking water. 616 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,040 So it's an amazing technology 617 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,280 that we'll need as we go further and further afield. 618 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,920 OK. Perfect. 619 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,360 You're slightly putting me off the whole situation now! 620 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:15,000 Oh, no! It's a great system. 621 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,360 It works really well! 622 00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:18,640 So fantastic. So that's food and going to the loo. 623 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,720 But also, the International Space Station is getting a little old now, 624 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,320 it's about 25 years old. 625 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,720 And it's been a glorious collaboration, as you say, 626 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,000 of countries across the world. 627 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,600 So what's coming next? 628 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,880 Yeah. So as you say, I mean, actually the ISS 629 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,960 has had humans living on it permanently 630 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,200 for more than 25 years now, which I think is really impressive - 631 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,520 but in the next few years it is going to be decommissioned. 632 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,240 But there's still a lot to look forward to 633 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,400 in terms of stations going around the Earth. 634 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,440 We'll either have a new station or several stations 635 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,080 almost replacing the ISS, 636 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,280 and beyond that, we actually have a collaboration 637 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,560 between ESA and NASA going back to the moon. 638 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,120 - Ooh! - And this is the Artemis mission. 639 00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:01,080 So I know you've just been talking about the moon, so it's a hot topic. 640 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,160 - Yes. - And we're really building upon what Apollo has taught us. 641 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,760 It's more than 50 years since we've been to the moon. 642 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,600 And this time, as we go back, we're going to be having Europeans 643 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,360 go to the moon and around the moon for the first time. 644 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:15,280 We're going to have a space station that goes around the moon... 645 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,160 - Orbits the moon? - ..instead of going around the Earth. - Yes. 646 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,760 The first crewed mission of this, of Artemis 647 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,920 is, actually, our American and our Canadian colleagues 648 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,360 are training for that next year already. 649 00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:28,560 - So it's happening really, really soon. - And I must admit, 650 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,760 this is something which would be a dream come true for me. 651 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,640 But we do actually have amongst us 652 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,480 - someone who has been to the moon. - Ah! 653 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,320 So I think he's with his handler. 654 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,200 So no photography please, but here he is. 655 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,480 This is Shaun the Sheep. 656 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,080 Thank you very much. Thank you. 657 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,040 Yes. This is Shaun the Sheep. 658 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,560 Now, so this actual model of Shaun the Sheep has been into space, 659 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,920 has been in orbit around the moon. Is that the case? 660 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,240 Yeah, exactly. 661 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,480 This Shaun the Sheep actually did the first Artemis mission, 662 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,480 Artemis I, just a few years ago. 663 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,960 He very bravely tested out all of the systems 664 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,000 because there were no other astronauts on board to help him. 665 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,720 And he has returned safely. 666 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,040 And I had the pleasure of meeting him, actually, 667 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,160 just after his mission for the first time a couple of years ago. 668 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,280 And he's a great ambassador for it. 669 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,440 - Well, he doesn't look frazzled by the whole journey. - He doesn't. 670 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,840 - He looks pretty cool. - He looks really chilled. 671 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,800 In fact, I'm sure he looked like that before he went, but, yes... 672 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,760 And so I have to say it, it does feel like one giant leap 673 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,920 for lambkind. 674 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,920 AUDIENCE GROANS 675 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,760 OK, OK. I'll go! 676 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,320 So much for the career as a stand-up comic. 677 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,280 And now, thank you so much for joining us - 678 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,280 and I think a round of applause for Rosemary, please. 679 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,480 APPLAUSE 680 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,160 To find out more about plans of actually setting humans on the moon, 681 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,520 I'd like to recall Meganne to the stage, please. 682 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,840 Thank you. Meganne. 683 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,840 APPLAUSE 684 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,600 Now, Meganne, what are the plans for Artemis II? 685 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,000 Artemis II, there are going to be humans on board, 686 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,280 and so they're going to be testing all the systems 687 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,680 for an eventual moon landing from Artemis III onwards. 688 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,680 - OK. - So, yeah, so Artemis II is going back to a bit like Apollo 8, 689 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,280 the first mission where we had humans going around the moon. 690 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,040 Now, it's quite interesting talking about a moon base, 691 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,520 because as far as I'm concerned, 692 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,000 we've been talking about moon bases almost forever, 693 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,080 since before we actually went to the moon. 694 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,800 But it is a very exciting prospect for me. 695 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,800 But it has got its challenges. 696 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,160 I think the temperature on the moon's surface, for instance - 697 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,840 on the day side of the moon where the sunlight is hitting it directly, 698 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,080 I think it's about plus 150 degrees, 699 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,560 but on the night side, where the sunlight isn't hitting it, 700 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,400 it's about minus 150 degrees. 701 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,360 And so we need to make sort of habitation and things like that 702 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,760 on the moon's surface that can survive these extreme conditions. 703 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,440 And this time with the Artemis mission, 704 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,120 we're going back to stay. 705 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,560 Now, I guess one of the challenges, if we can send resources 706 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,440 - to the moon, that's going to be expensive. - Yeah, that's right. 707 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,320 I mean, think about it, you have to take everything with you 708 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,360 to the moon. The moon doesn't have an atmosphere, you can't breathe, 709 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,600 you can't go and stand on the surface of the moon 710 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,840 and breathe what's there. 711 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,160 So you have to take all that oxygen with you. 712 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,040 You have to take all your water and all your food with you - 713 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,760 and that gets really, really heavy, 714 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,200 and it's already hard enough to get to the moon by yourself. 715 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,560 So we want to be able to use the resources 716 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,640 that are already available there. 717 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,480 So we've found that there is actually ice inside the lunar dust, 718 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,720 the regolith, 719 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,680 and so perhaps we can use that. 720 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,640 - OK. - We can use the resources available on the moon to support us. 721 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,400 OK. That sounds very exciting - 722 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,200 and so now, to actually demonstrate this in a little more detail, 723 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,120 what I'd like to do is actually ask for a volunteer. 724 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,440 Any volunteers in the audience? 725 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,560 OK. I've got a chap with a red jumper and a white shirt. 726 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,920 Yes, you. Do you want to come on down? 727 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,640 Oh, look. It's you. 728 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,520 APPLAUSE 729 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,520 - Thank you. - Thank you. - Oh, pleasure. 730 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,120 So, first of all, what's your name? 731 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,600 - Nakul. - Nakul? 732 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,200 - Very nice to meet you, Nakul. - Nice to meet you too. 733 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,400 SHE LAUGHS 734 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,440 So what we're going to do is we're talking about utilising 735 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,000 those lunar resources. 736 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,360 Meganne mentioned that on the moon we have discovered water. 737 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,920 Now, what is the chemical make-up of water? Does anyone know? 738 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,160 Actually, shout it out if you know. 739 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,640 H2O. 740 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,920 Good old H2O. 741 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,520 And so that translates to hydrogen and oxygen. 742 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,400 Now, Meganne, you mentioned that on the moon's surface 743 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,960 it has no atmosphere and so we need to take our own supply. 744 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,520 Now, what we're taking from our atmosphere is oxygen, 745 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,800 and that's what we need to breathe - 746 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,560 so the fact that water contains oxygen is really useful. 747 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,680 But then we also talk about hydrogen. 748 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,320 Now, hydrogen we can actually use to fuel rockets, 749 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,120 and one of the nice ideas about having a moon base 750 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,240 is we can use it as a staging post 751 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,960 to go to other parts of the solar system. 752 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,600 The moon is smaller than planet Earth, it has less mass, 753 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,720 so launching things from the moon's surface should be cheaper 754 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,480 once you've got the base. 755 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,800 And so what we're going to do is try and do a demonstration of that. 756 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,200 So we have actually some water in this tube. 757 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,200 So what's going on here is a process called electrolysis. 758 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,720 We're passing a current through the water 759 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,640 and it's splitting it up into hydrogen and oxygen. 760 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,480 And that's what you can see bubbling out of this tube. 761 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,760 So what I want us to do is launch our own rocket. 762 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,520 There is your rocket, and we're going to launch it into space. 763 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,880 Now, I'm going to fill up the rocket with fuel, 764 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,280 the oxygen and the hydrogen. 765 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,640 Then I'm going to put it onto the launchpad. 766 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,880 Then what we need you to do is actually launch the rocket. 767 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,840 Now, you do that by pressing that red button, 768 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,200 but it's a press and a hold, because I think many people realise here 769 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,120 that hydrogen and oxygen are both flammable. 770 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,360 So you will set out the spark, so you'll hold it down 771 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,080 and you'll have a spark, and that will ignite the fuel 772 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,120 inside the canister and whoosh to the stars. 773 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,360 So that's the plan. 774 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,840 Now, I'm going to give you some ear defenders and also some glasses. 775 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,840 So I'll put these on too. Perfect. 776 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,320 - Now, for health and safety, you're going to be the key operator. - Yes. 777 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,320 So what we're going to do is, first of all, I need to fuel our rocket. 778 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,640 So this is the rocket. 779 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,560 Now, it turns out that hydrogen is lighter than air. 780 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,720 So if I take this out, what I'm going to do 781 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,800 is count for ten seconds to fill up the rocket with fuel. 782 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,600 So one, two... 783 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,240 ..three, four, 784 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,320 five, six, seven, 785 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,200 eight, nine, ten. 786 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,240 OK, put that back in there. 787 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,000 Now, I've got to get on the launchpad quickly 788 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,600 because I don't want that gas escaping. 789 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,120 Ah, yeah, that's a reassuring click. 790 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,880 And then what I'm going to do is I'm going to step back 791 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,440 and then what we're going to do is count down from five, 792 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,040 and then you're going to press and hold and we'll see what happens. 793 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,120 OK. So five... 794 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,960 ..four, three, 795 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,360 two, one. 796 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,640 LOUD BANG 797 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,640 Whoa! 798 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,760 APPLAUSE 799 00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:34,720 That's wonderful. I'm just going to take this off. 800 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:37,800 So thank you so much. That was a brilliant launch, very successful. 801 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,920 And congratulations - 802 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,160 and a round of applause for our volunteer, please. 803 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,440 APPLAUSE 804 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,440 Thank you. 805 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,720 Thank you to all the astronauts. 806 00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:49,800 Thank you so much for joining us and sharing your experiences with us. 807 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,000 So I think an extra big round of applause for our astronauts. 808 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,240 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 809 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,480 Now, it's quite interesting because I think many people 810 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,160 might not be aware, but every time we do a Christmas lecture, 811 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,720 one of the things we do is have a Youth Summit. 812 00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:13,840 Now, there was someone here in the audience that was actually at that, 813 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,120 one of those Youth Summits. 814 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,960 Now, Ella, I'm going to come up and see you. 815 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,880 So excuse me. Oops! 816 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,440 Now, Ella, first of all, can I ask you, how old are you? 817 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,360 So I am 17 years old. 818 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,680 - 17 years old. - Yeah. - OK. 819 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,960 - So you were at the London Youth Summit, I believe. - I was. 820 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,240 - You were speaking at it? - I was speaking at the Youth Summit, yeah. 821 00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:31,080 Lovely. And so, what were you talking about? 822 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,600 So I was talking about the space economy. 823 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,280 It started off with governments, 824 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,720 - governments were running the space industry. - Yes. 825 00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:39,640 And it wasn't until we had billionaires, 826 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,960 that there were people who could afford to ask that question of, 827 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,640 how do we turn this into a business opportunity? 828 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,880 - OK. - So we have Richard Branson, who has founded Virgin Galactic. 829 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,920 They are looking at space tourism. 830 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,920 - So any of us could, in theory, be a space tourist. - Yes. 831 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,240 You also have Jeff Bezos, CEO of Amazon 832 00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:01,560 and now founder of Blue Origin. 833 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,720 One of Blue Origin's missions is taking all infrastructure 834 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:08,800 - and heavy industries up off of Earth and into space. - Wow. 835 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,640 And so effectively that would give us a greener future. 836 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,280 On the flip side, you have Elon Musk, founder of SpaceX. 837 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,480 He is looking at sending humanity to Mars. 838 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,040 He really created a shift in this industry 839 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,600 because he developed reusable rockets. 840 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,240 That is what caused the shift, 841 00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:28,480 - because now millionaires could access this industry. - Ooh. 842 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,200 And there are a lot more millionaires 843 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,320 than there are billionaires. This is a transition period. 844 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,040 - This is the new space age. - Fantastic. - Yeah. 845 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,000 - Well, lovely to speak to you. - It was nice speaking to you, Maggie. 846 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,560 And I wish I was doing this sort of thing you're doing when I was 17. 847 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,200 - Well, yeah, maybe. - Lovely to speak to you. 848 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,680 - And a round of applause. Thank you. - Thank you. 849 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,720 APPLAUSE 850 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,560 So we're exploring how we utilise a moon base 851 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,040 to actually travel further into the solar system - 852 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,040 and it just makes so much sense. 853 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,120 And so we're going to go on in our journey, 854 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,080 but I think before we can understand a sort of a life on another planet, 855 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,480 we need to get an understanding of life right here on Earth. 856 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,800 And the thing is, we have a variety of life here. 857 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,720 We have life up in the air, we have life on the land, 858 00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:18,560 we have life in the oceans, a variety of life. 859 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,360 Now, what I'd like to do now is to invite some people in 860 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,360 from the Natural History Museum - Srishti and Chris. 861 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,560 APPLAUSE 862 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,680 Now, I'm quite excited by this, 863 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,200 because I'm usually talking about things far away, the big universe - 864 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,520 and now we're going to... 865 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,120 We've got a microscope, so that makes me very excited. 866 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,080 Now, Srishti, you've been going around cemeteries 867 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,760 - and collecting samples. - Yeah! 868 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,320 This makes me slightly worried. So what have you got in the jar? 869 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,880 So this is moss from Tower Hamlets Cemetery. 870 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,960 - So this is just normal moss? - Just regular moss that we've... 871 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,800 Well, I did get them from gravestones, but, you know. 872 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,040 We won't ask too many questions, I think. 873 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,600 It was very easy, you just kind of pick it up, yeah. It's not hard. 874 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,760 But why have you got this? Why is this of interest? 875 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,880 So we were looking at moss because there are actually animals 876 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,080 and other organisms living in this moss that are very, very cool. 877 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,640 And you might not think, you know, 878 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,640 you can't really see much in this right now, 879 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,920 but if you use a microscope, you can actually see a whole world 880 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,360 of animals just living in it that are just really tiny. 881 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,640 OK, lovely. 882 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,280 Chris, you're operating the microscope, 883 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,800 and so you've got a sample that was taken from this 884 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,560 - in the petri dish underneath. - That's right. - Fantastic. 885 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,520 So what are we seeing in this microscopic world? 886 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,080 - So most of the life you can't see, it's single celled organisms. - Ah. 887 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,080 Too small even for this microscope. 888 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,680 - But we can see that there is some life. - Oh, yeah. 889 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,600 - So you see that little writhing, snake-like form there? - This one? 890 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,000 - Yeah. That one, yeah. - So that's called a nematode. 891 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,720 This is a group of organisms that occurs on all parts of the Earth, 892 00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:58,360 wherever there is even a little bit of liquid water, 893 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,200 bottom ocean, top of high mountains. 894 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,000 They've been found miles beneath the Earth's surface. 895 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,720 So these things are in that petri dish? 896 00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:09,120 - From literally this exact moss, as well, so... - Yes! 897 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,880 There's another creature there just creeping out of view. 898 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,440 Let's see if I can follow her. 899 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,400 Oh, yeah. There's our movie star. 900 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,160 So these are organisms called tardigrades, 901 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,120 or, if you like, a more cuddly term, water bears. 902 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,840 Water bears? Yes! 903 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,360 Why are they interesting? 904 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,480 They're really, really cool creatures. 905 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,680 So moss has this property where it dries out 906 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,280 and then it gets wet again, and it goes through these cycles. 907 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,040 Animals like tardigrades are specialised to be dealing with that, 908 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,000 so they can also dry out and be completely fine. 909 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,640 And then when they're rehydrated, they go back to normal. 910 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,680 - Can they go into more extreme conditions? - They really can - 911 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,040 and in fact they have been studied for that purpose. 912 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,680 They were sent up to space, lots of animals have been sent to space, 913 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,360 but these were the first ones to be sent into a vacuum 914 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,560 and come out just fine, which is... 915 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,240 - Vacuum means that they can't breathe. - Yeah. 916 00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:01,360 Lack of oxygen, extreme radiation, 917 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,440 weird temperatures, all of it. 918 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,080 So they are able to withstand very, very difficult environments 919 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,480 which we would not be able to. 920 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,760 - Do we know how they survive these environments? - Yeah. 921 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,080 So they've got some specialisations in the proteins that they make, 922 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,080 which are very specific to them, that helps protect their cells, 923 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,120 and they have other proteins and other methods 924 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,000 in which they can repair DNA damage, 925 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,760 which would happen when you have a lot of radiation 926 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,840 or a lot of cold or any of these things. 927 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,160 They enter this thing called a tun state where they curl up, 928 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,880 they hide all their legs, they hide their head in their cuticles 929 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,600 of their shells, they sort of completely dry out. 930 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,320 And once they are in an environment that's safe for them, 931 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,360 they rehydrate, they fix up all the problems that they've had 932 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,200 and they carry on with their lives. 933 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,240 In fact, when they're in this tun state, 934 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:46,720 they become so light and so shrivelled up 935 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:50,160 that they become able to travel vast distances by air 936 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,240 - so they can be blown away. - Yes. 937 00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:54,680 And that's why we find tardigrades in lots and lots and lots 938 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,200 of different environments. 939 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,200 Maybe we could find them in space one day 940 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,160 - just because they've blown up there. - Yeah! Wow. 941 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,960 So, yeah, a fascinating world going on around us 942 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,440 - that we're just not even aware of. - Mm-hm. 943 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,440 Well, thank you so much, Chris and Srishti. 944 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,680 But now what I'd like to do is introduce another type of creature. 945 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,560 Ooh! 946 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,840 DR ADERIN-POCOCK LAUGHS 947 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,600 So, hello. Who is this? Who am I addressing? 948 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,240 - Samara. - Samara. 949 00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:21,560 And so tell me a bit more about Samara. 950 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,360 - And can I hold her? - Yes, of course. - Oh, gosh. 951 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,600 She's a nine-year-old albino Burmese python. 952 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,040 She's weighing in about, coming under seven stone. 953 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,720 Seven stone? Oh, my goodness. 954 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:36,040 - And just under 17 foot. - 17 foot. OK. Which is why... 955 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,600 You've got about three foot, we've got the rest of it. 956 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,040 OK. Lovely. Yes! 957 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,240 Fantastic. 958 00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:43,160 And so... Wow, she's lively! 959 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,160 - She's warm. - She's warm. Yes. 960 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,160 OK. Sorry, sorry! 961 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,640 Um, OK. 962 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,440 AUDIENCE LAUGHS 963 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,160 OK. Can you tell me more about her? 964 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,240 And, oh, she has adaptations. 965 00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:59,360 She isn't trying to eat me, right? 966 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,680 - No. Absolutely not. She's just giving you a lovely cuddle. - Aw. 967 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,520 - I can uncurl her if you want me to? - Oh, no. 968 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,440 No, no, I think I'm quite happy. 969 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,480 Yes, so tell me a bit more about her and her adaptations. 970 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,720 Well, she's, they see a lot in infrared. 971 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:17,440 - OK, lovely. - Small amounts of infrared. 972 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,720 So, like, in the audience, for example, there's lots of 973 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:23,480 red dots everywhere. That's what she's detecting as food or prey. 974 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,960 OK. Don't worry, don't worry. 975 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,920 Detecting that, which she uses with the pits in the nose, 976 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,720 which are all the little sensors there. 977 00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:32,440 - So eyesight is not 100%. - Ah, yes. 978 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,160 - They more rely on the heat signatures. - Oh, lovely. 979 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,960 So, yeah, infrared energy is heat energy, 980 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,760 - and she can detect those? - Yes. 981 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,240 And any other adaptations? 982 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,240 SHE LAUGHS 983 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:44,520 - She's very good at holding on to you. - I know! 984 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,240 I do like a hug. 985 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:50,040 They certainly rely on the safety of being able to hold on to something 986 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,360 - so they don't fall on the floor or fall off a tree. - Yes. 987 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,520 You know, they like to be relatively high up because they feel safer. 988 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,560 Now, it's lovely to show you all these different examples of life. 989 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,880 OK, I think I need to get myself unwound. 990 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,800 And I think a round of applause for our animal handlers. 991 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,480 APPLAUSE 992 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,560 So we are trying to search for life out there - 993 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,280 but one of the things is, we are finding planets 994 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,720 but what are the chances of life actually emerging on another planet? 995 00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:23,680 So one of the questions we need to ask 996 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,400 is how did life start right on this planet? 997 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,360 Now, to answer this question and help me find out, 998 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,080 I'd like to invite from the Natural History Museum 999 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,360 a cosmic mineralogist, Professor Sara Russell. 1000 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,120 APPLAUSE 1001 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,040 Hi, Maggie. 1002 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,440 LOUD ALARM WAILS 1003 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,080 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 1004 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,200 OK, we weren't expecting that, so please stay in your seats. 1005 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,960 We'd better go up here. 1006 00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:52,560 LOUD BANG 1007 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:56,800 Ooh. 1008 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,200 So I think we can go and investigate. 1009 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,840 So, Sara, I think this is more your domain than mine. 1010 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,240 We've had a meteor strike right here in the lecture theatre. 1011 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,240 I can't see the hole where it came in from, 1012 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:12,280 but we'll worry about that later! 1013 00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:17,080 So, yes, this is sort of the RI meteorite. 1014 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,080 So I think what we're going to do is going to lift it up 1015 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,600 - so we can explore. - OK. - But this is what you spend your time doing. 1016 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,720 Absolutely. This is my day job. I look at meteorites 1017 00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:27,280 which are any natural extraterrestrial rock 1018 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,680 that falls to the Earth 1019 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,720 and survives its fall through the atmosphere. 1020 00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:34,880 And, yeah, so meteorites can come from anywhere, 1021 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,000 - but most of them come from asteroids... - OK. 1022 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,880 ..and a few of them are from the moon and a few are from Mars. 1023 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,920 So they can tell us about all sorts of environments beyond Earth. 1024 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,920 - Lovely. So let's go in closer. - Yes, OK. Great. 1025 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,440 - I don't know if any of yours do this? - Ooh! No. 1026 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,800 - You see, a flip top meteorite. - Yes! They haven't had that upgrade! 1027 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,600 OK, so now I've got a few things inside which I'm going to show you. 1028 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,240 - OK. - Now, first of all, I'm going to start with this. 1029 00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:01,760 - Now, the label says silicates. - Silicates. 1030 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,920 And to me it just looks like a bit of sand. 1031 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,560 Yes. Well, silicates are what nearly all rocks are made of, 1032 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,600 and so silicates make up most of the Earth and also the moon. 1033 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,320 Also, most meteorites are made of silicates. 1034 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,200 OK. So perfect. Let's see what else I've got in here. 1035 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,000 OK. I wasn't expecting this. It says iron, but this is just an iron bar. 1036 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,480 Have you found many of these in meteorites? 1037 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,040 - I'm going to put that on the table. - Right. 1038 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,360 None that look exactly like an iron bar, I have to say - 1039 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,160 but iron, as well, is a very common ingredient of meteorites. 1040 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,160 So on Earth, in its early history, it melted, 1041 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,600 and all of the iron and other heavy metals went down 1042 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,360 to form the Earth's core. 1043 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,360 And that melting and differentiation process 1044 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,320 also happened on many asteroids, 1045 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,360 which means that sometimes we can sample their iron-rich core - 1046 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,160 and that's exciting because we can't actually dig down 1047 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,800 and reach our own Earth's core, 1048 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,360 but we can learn about what it's made of by using meteorites. 1049 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,480 Lovely. 1050 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,960 I think we've got a few other things in here as well. 1051 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,720 - And so I've got something here, I think that's a glycine. - OK. 1052 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:07,680 - And so these look like molecules. - Yes, they are. 1053 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,520 On a bigger scale than usual. 1054 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,560 - Alanine. - Alanine, yes. 1055 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,600 - Now, these are something familiar. But what actually are they? - Yes. 1056 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,040 So these are a very special kind of molecule called amino acids. 1057 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,280 - OK, lovely. - So again these have been found in meteorites. 1058 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,000 So, yeah, not all meteorites, 1059 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,440 but a very unusual type of meteorite called a carbonaceous chondrite 1060 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,080 can have a lot of organic material in it. 1061 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,440 And so molecules like this, 1062 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,640 the amino acids are the building blocks of proteins. 1063 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,240 We find all sorts of organic material in meteorites 1064 00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:43,160 - that could be the building blocks of biological systems. - Lovely. 1065 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,280 So there is this theory that life started out there, 1066 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,280 and it was actually seeded on Earth by things like this - meteorites. 1067 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:54,320 Yes. That the ingredients for life were in space 1068 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,200 and then came to Earth where life could begin. 1069 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,200 Lovely. OK, this is rather on a grand scale, 1070 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,520 - but I think there was a meteor strike right here in the UK. - Yes. 1071 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,040 - Not that long ago. - Not that long ago. 1072 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,440 Yes. So this was in February 2021. 1073 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,320 This was in the middle of the Covid lockdown, 1074 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,960 if any of you remember that, 1075 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,240 and on a clear night in February... 1076 00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:16,840 There's a fireball there. 1077 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,360 ..this massive fireball was seen across the sky - 1078 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,680 and this was witnessed by over a thousand people. 1079 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,200 So this image, what was... 1080 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,360 - So that's a camera? - Yes. 1081 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,920 So this was a camera that was actually designed 1082 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,800 to look for exactly this kind of event. 1083 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,600 We have a network of cameras across the UK looking up at the sky 1084 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,840 all the time, looking for this sort of thing, 1085 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,800 because if we get observations from several cameras, 1086 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,280 we can work out two things. 1087 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,640 - We can work out where this object came from in space... - OK. 1088 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,600 ..and also, if it's going to be a meteorite, 1089 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,560 we can work out where it's landed so we can go and hunt for it. 1090 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,200 So I can understand where it's landed, 1091 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,120 but you can actually extrapolate backwards? 1092 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,680 - You can backtrack, exactly... - Oh, my goodness. 1093 00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:59,880 ..to see what its trajectory was. 1094 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,440 So this particular meteor originated 1095 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,440 in the outer part of the asteroid belt, out towards Jupiter. 1096 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,640 Fantastic. OK, so this is sort of professional footage 1097 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,160 with dedicated cameras, 1098 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,680 but I think there was footage taken by other cameras, too. 1099 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,800 Yes, absolutely. So this was a really widely seen event 1100 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,840 and several door cams, so these days people have door cams... 1101 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,840 - If you look at the corner. - Oh, yeah. 1102 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,360 They also caught the meteor going, as well. 1103 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,320 - So we have a huge amount of data. - Lovely. 1104 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,160 So you were saying you were sort of using triangulation 1105 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,680 and sort of looking at the trajectory. 1106 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,440 - So where did this one land? - Yes. 1107 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,640 So we worked out that this one was going to land in the Cotswolds. 1108 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,920 So it landed in a town called Winchcombe, just outside Cheltenham. 1109 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,720 - Hence the name. - OK, lovely. 1110 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:45,000 Meteorites are always named after the place where they landed. 1111 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,240 And I was expecting some sort of impact crater, I guess. 1112 00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:51,000 - This is the result. - This is the result. 1113 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,320 So I don't know if you can see what we're looking at here, 1114 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:58,080 but the next morning, the family opened their curtains, 1115 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,680 the Wilcock family, and they saw this big splat in their driveway. 1116 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,120 THEY LAUGH 1117 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,120 And this is where the meteorite had landed - 1118 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,800 and they very kindly donated both the meteorite to our museum, 1119 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,440 the Natural History Museum, but also their driveway, which is... 1120 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,000 - A section of their driveway? - Yes. 1121 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,520 It's just like a metre squared section of their driveway. 1122 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,440 Perfect. But, Sara, before I say goodbye, 1123 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,440 - I just wanted to ask one question. - Yes. 1124 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,720 Do you believe that there's life out there? 1125 00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:28,160 You know, Maggie, I'm pretty sure there is life out there, 1126 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,120 because I think that meteorites like Winchcombe 1127 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,600 are relatively common throughout the solar system, 1128 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,320 and if they were impacting the early Earth 1129 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,800 and bringing ingredients there, they would have also been impacting Mars 1130 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,200 and other parts of the solar system, as well. 1131 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,040 And so I think it's out there. 1132 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,040 OK, perfect. Well, thank you very much. 1133 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,960 And a round of applause for Sara, please. 1134 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,520 - Thank you. - Thank you very much. 1135 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,320 APPLAUSE 1136 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,840 So we want to know if there's life out there beyond the Earth - 1137 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,240 and what we've discovered over the last 30 years 1138 00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:00,920 is that one of the best places to look is at planets 1139 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,040 orbiting the distant stars we see in the night sky. 1140 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,880 We call these exoplanets. 1141 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,720 To find out more, I'd like to introduce my colleague 1142 00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:14,560 from the Sky At Night and planet huntress, Dr George Dransfield. 1143 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,160 APPLAUSE 1144 00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:24,680 So, George. You are... I called you a sort of a planet huntress there. 1145 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,320 - Is that an official title? - Yeah, absolutely. 1146 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,080 And this is what I do for my day job. 1147 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,640 I search for new planets outside the solar system 1148 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,600 orbiting any star other than the sun. 1149 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,080 OK. When I was at university, 1150 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,720 we thought that there might be exoplanets out there, 1151 00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:40,280 - but these stars are trillions of kilometres away. - Yeah. 1152 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,960 So how do we go about actually trying to search for life 1153 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,440 on these exoplanets? 1154 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,800 So, I mean, one of the key indicators that we have right now 1155 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,680 is trying to probe whether they have an atmosphere or not, 1156 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,880 and if there are signs in that atmosphere of biological activity 1157 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,640 - on the surface. - OK. Lovely. 1158 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,800 So to actually explore this a bit further, 1159 00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,880 I want a bit of audience participation. 1160 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,720 If you look under your seats you will find a piece of card, 1161 00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:06,680 and on that piece of card there is an exoplanet on board. 1162 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,960 So what I want you to do is hold the exoplanet up, 1163 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,560 the picture of the exoplanet, so it's facing outwards, 1164 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,040 but just have it up there on your lap. 1165 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,640 OK. Oh, gosh, that's quite amazing actually. 1166 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,480 We're just getting a wide array. 1167 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,320 Now, each one of these is a true exoplanet. Is that not the case? 1168 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,000 Absolutely. This is a small subset of the over 6,000 exoplanets 1169 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,480 that we've discovered so far - 1170 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,720 and I'm seeing some lovely familiar names out there, 1171 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:30,520 some of my favourites in the room. 1172 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,520 You've got your exoplanet picture in the front, 1173 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,640 but on the back I think you can see a table. 1174 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,600 Now, what is this table telling us? 1175 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,720 So one of the things that we do when we want to select planets 1176 00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:43,640 to investigate and do a deep dive and figure out 1177 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,720 if they could maybe host life, 1178 00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:49,040 is we look at an archive of planets that we have, 1179 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,440 and we start to rule them out based on certain parameters, 1180 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,720 certain characteristics that we've measured for them. 1181 00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:57,800 So we just try and say, "OK, these ones, not a chance." 1182 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,720 We just rule them out immediately and we don't waste telescope time 1183 00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:02,840 - investigating them further. - Yes. 1184 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,320 So now, you've all got, you're holding up your exoplanet. 1185 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,000 What we're going to do is we're going to start eliminating 1186 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,160 exoplanets where we don't think life is likely to be. 1187 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,280 - So let's start with our first parameter. - Yeah. 1188 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,200 So here we have Star Type. 1189 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,400 That's the first one in your table. So Star Type, what does that mean? 1190 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,760 So one of the ways that we can classify stars 1191 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,920 is on a thing called the spectral type. 1192 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,760 So the spectral type tells you stuff like how big the star is 1193 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,240 and how hot the star is, what it's made of, stuff like that - 1194 00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:33,520 and what I would never do is search for life 1195 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,120 on a planet around an O, a B or an A-type star. 1196 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,160 OK, so we've got O, B or A. 1197 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,120 So if you have O, B or A as your star type, 1198 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,480 please put your card down into your lap. 1199 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,640 You have been eliminated, unfortunately. 1200 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,280 We think it's unlikely that you'll find life there. 1201 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,960 OK, so I think that's all been done. 1202 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,600 So we've lost a few - but not that many. 1203 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,800 Actually, we've still got a good, healthy population 1204 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,840 - to continue the search for life. - Yeah, absolutely. 1205 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,200 And the thing is, you know, these stars, 1206 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,480 they're actually hard to form planets around anyway. 1207 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,000 They're very, very young, they're very hot, 1208 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,800 they wouldn't be a great environment. 1209 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,640 So next we have Eccentricity. What does that mean? 1210 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,120 So eccentricity tells us something about the shape of the orbit 1211 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,600 - as the planet orbits its star. - Lovely. OK. 1212 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,600 If your eccentricity is greater than 0.7, 1213 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,440 then please put your cards down. OK? 1214 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,280 OK. We're seeing some going down. 1215 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,600 OK, we've still got quite a healthy population. 1216 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,760 So why are we eliminating these planets 1217 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,600 if their eccentricity is greater than 0.7? 1218 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,280 So eccentricity, like I said before, 1219 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,480 it tells us something about the shape of the orbit, 1220 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,040 and so we're thinking about how squashed out, 1221 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,400 how elongated is the shape of the orbit. 1222 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,840 So the value can be from zero to one. 1223 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,720 If it's zero, it means it's a perfect circle, 1224 00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:49,120 but the bigger the number, the more stretched out it'll be - 1225 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,800 and what that means is that sometimes the planet 1226 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,600 will be really close to its star, 1227 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,840 and sometimes it'll be really far away. 1228 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,960 So you get huge variation in temperature, 1229 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,680 which means that it's difficult to get the stability you need 1230 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,960 for life, as we know it at least, to develop. 1231 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,240 So let's see what we have next on our criteria. 1232 00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:11,080 So now we have Planet Radius. OK. 1233 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,520 So this is quite simple. 1234 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,920 This is the size of the planet compared to Earth. 1235 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,600 OK. Lovely. And so now, we need to see the criteria. OK. 1236 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,040 So anything greater than 2.5 times the size of Earth. 1237 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,400 So anything two and a half times bigger than Earth 1238 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,840 we're going to eliminate. 1239 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,480 So will you put your cards down 1240 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,800 if you're two and a half times bigger than Earth? 1241 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,560 - OK. OK. - So when we're thinking about, again, life as we know it, 1242 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,160 we believe that life as we know it, so far at least, 1243 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,000 requires liquid water. So we've got to think, what are the chances 1244 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,440 of there being liquid water on the surface of this planet? 1245 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,960 And so things that are bigger than two and a half times the size 1246 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,480 of Earth, we think they're most likely going to be gas dominated. 1247 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,440 And so we think that this is now challenging 1248 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,040 - to host life as we know it. - OK. Lovely. 1249 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,600 OK. So we've got one more criteria - 1250 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,880 and I must admit I don't recognise this word - Insolation. 1251 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,360 Yes. So insolation or insolation flux - 1252 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,320 and this tells us how much energy the planet is receiving 1253 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,760 from its host star. Again, we measure it compared to Earth. 1254 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,240 So let's have the criteria. Yeah. 1255 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:19,880 Yes. So the criteria is less than 0.4 1256 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,000 or greater than 1.5. 1257 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,680 So if you're less than 0.4 or greater than 1.5, 1258 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,080 please put your cards down. 1259 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,040 OK. Oh, gosh. That was quite a decimator, wasn't it? 1260 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,920 Yeah. That one knocked out a lot. 1261 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,760 - OK, lovely. We still have a few left. - Yeah. 1262 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,720 OK, so tell me a bit more about this. 1263 00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:39,640 So this is the amount of radiation actually reaching the Earth? 1264 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,200 Yes, exactly. So we're looking now at the kind of the nitty gritty. 1265 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,680 This is what's called the optimistic habitable zone. 1266 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:51,120 So the habitable zone is this kind of area that we define around a star 1267 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,240 that tells us whether it could be the right temperature 1268 00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:57,000 on the surface of the planet to have liquid water. 1269 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,280 So if your planet receives 1270 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,720 between 0.4 and 1.5 times the insulation of Earth, 1271 00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:07,680 it means that you are in the optimistic habitable zone 1272 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,000 of your star. 1273 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,240 So congratulations. You maybe have some liquid water on the surface. 1274 00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:16,120 But I do want to give a shout out to a planet up here. 1275 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,160 - So this is another one... - Why is this one special? 1276 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,480 This one is very special to me. 1277 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,880 It's called TOI-715 b. 1278 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,880 It's about 137 light years away - 1279 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,480 and the reason I love this one 1280 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,320 is it's because it's the first habitable zone planet 1281 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:31,640 that I led the discovery of. 1282 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,640 - Oh, right! - Yeah. So this one has my name on the paper for the discovery. 1283 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,760 - So why isn't it George's Planet? - Oh, I wish! 1284 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,480 But, no, we actually have a convention for naming planets 1285 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,840 where it's the star name followed by a lowercase letter, starting with b. 1286 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,720 But it's a lovely little thing. 1287 00:56:47,720 --> 00:56:49,840 It's about one and a half times the size of Earth, 1288 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,280 and like I said, 137 light years away, 1289 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,120 which in astronomical terms is really, really close. 1290 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,560 - So it's a great candidate to search for life. - Thank you, George - 1291 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,960 but before you go, the question I keep on asking, 1292 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,160 do you believe there's life out there? 1293 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,840 Oh, absolutely. I mean, one of the things that kind of guides 1294 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,640 our understanding of the universe is that the laws of physics 1295 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,120 apply the same all over the universe, 1296 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,880 so there is nothing special about this place and time, 1297 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,040 and therefore life must have happened elsewhere. 1298 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,160 OK, fantastic. 1299 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,000 - I think around a round of applause for our planet hunter. - Thank you. 1300 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,480 APPLAUSE 1301 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,400 In the next lecture, we're going to be exploring our own solar system, 1302 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,320 looking to see if there could be life on the planets 1303 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,880 orbiting our local star - the sun. 1304 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,440 Now, we don't have a star to bring in here into the lecture theatre, 1305 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,680 but we have the next best thing... 1306 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,720 BLOWTORCH HISSES 1307 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,640 ..a traditional Royal Institution demo 1308 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,880 created using burning phosphorus - 1309 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,600 and it's known as phosphorus sun. 1310 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,440 Let's stand back and bask in its glow. 1311 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,680 Thank you very much. 1312 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,000 APPLAUSE 1313 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,520 Think you've got what it takes to run a space mission? 1314 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,240 Step into command with the Open University's 1315 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,680 interactive experience and meet the experts that make it happen. 1316 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,040 Scan the QR code on the screen 1317 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:28,520 or visit connect.open.ac.uk/ri2025 112636

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