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If you look across the globe
and back through time,
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every culture has looked up
at the night sky and wondered,
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are we alone?
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And with the possible detection
of signs of life on a planet
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far beyond our solar system,
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we are getting tantalisingly close
to finding an answer.
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As a space scientist,
I explore the universe,
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and I'm more and more convinced
that there is life out there.
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So in this series of lectures,
we are going to look
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and ask the question,
is there life beyond the Earth?
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Leaving Earth's orbit.
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Uh, Houston, we have a problem.
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Take third exit to Mars.
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WHISTLE
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ROBOT BEEPS
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Mars rover collected.
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Warning.
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James Webb Telescope acquired.
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Navigate off road.
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CRAFT BEEPS
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Voyager probe acquired.
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Approaching light speed.
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APPLAUSE
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CHEERING
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Welcome to the 200th anniversary
of the Christmas Lectures
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from right here
in the Royal Institution,
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supported by CGI.
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Now, let's go back 4.5 billion years
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to the time soon after the birth
of the solar system.
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That was quite a tumultuous time.
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Things were moving around
all over the place,
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and sometimes there were real
cataclysmic crashes.
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What we just saw there was
the formation of the moon.
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I'm Dame Dr Maggie Aderin-Pocock,
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and I describe myself
as a self-certified lunatic,
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because I am just mesmerised
by the moon.
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So in that early solar system,
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we think that a body
about the size of planet Mars
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crashed into the early Earth
and sent dust and debris
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up into the atmosphere.
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That coalesced to form our moon.
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Now, this is the Earth
as we know it now -
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but back then the Earth
was like a molten rock,
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and the moon was also a molten rock,
but in orbit about it.
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But I would always like
to travel back to that time,
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because the moon was much closer
to planet Earth,
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and it must have been like
a golden orb in the sky.
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Quite magnificent.
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So all my life I have been
absolutely fascinated by space,
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and I think the first trigger
for me was actually my father.
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So this is a picture of my father.
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Unfortunately, he's passed away,
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but he actually got that sort of
that spark of interest in space,
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because he used to tell me tales
about when he was a child,
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because he was born in Nigeria -
and living in Nigeria,
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he used to actually have to travel
12 miles to get from home to school,
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and that journey was on unlit roads,
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and so when the moon was up,
it would light his way,
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and so the moon
was my father's friend.
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So if it was my father's friend,
it was going to be my friend too.
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Now, in inner city London,
there was lots of light pollution.
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So when you look up at the night
sky, you don't see many stars -
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but what you can see is the moon.
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As a child, I used to always love
looking at the moon.
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So when I was about six or seven,
I dreamed of getting into space.
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Now, I co-host a television show
called the Sky At Night,
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and it's the longest running science
show in the world -
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but my predecessor was a chap
called Patrick Moore,
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and he'd say, you know,
if you have a telescope,
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this is what you can see
in the night sky.
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And so I decided then
that I would build my own telescope.
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And so this was when I was about
your age, I was about 14.
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So to show you how I did that,
I'm going to need two volunteers.
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Oh, I love the way the hands
go shooting up.
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OK! Perfect. OK.
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Both of you. Yes, with your matching
Christmas jumpers.
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Please come on down.
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APPLAUSE
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First of all, to start off,
what are your names?
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- What's your name?
- Sophie.
- Sophie. Very nice to meet you.
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- And what's your name?
- Emma.
- Emma.
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Sophie and Emma, thank you.
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So you're going to be part
of this demonstration.
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Now, Sophie, what I want you to do
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is I want to show you
how I made my own telescope.
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And, Emma,
if you can come over here,
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we'll be doing a demonstration
on that in a few minutes. Thank you.
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OK, now, first of all,
I've got a powder in here.
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So what this is,
it's like an abrasive powder.
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And what I'm going to do
is I'm going to sprinkle
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that abrasive powder
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on this piece of glass.
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So this is just a plain
piece of glass.
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And then what I'm going to do
is I'm going to add some water,
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and I'm going to smoosh that around.
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But what I'm doing is making
an abrasive paste.
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And I'm going to put this piece of
glass on top of that piece of glass.
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And then what I did, I spent many,
many months sort of grinding.
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Now, OK, you give it a go.
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OK. So what you're doing
is you're actually grinding
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that piece of glass to shape it.
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Now, I'm going to leave you
doing that.
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In the meantime, what I want to do
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is talk about the history
of the telescope.
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Now, the first person to apply
for a patent for their telescope
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was a chap called Hans Lippershey.
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Now, he was a Dutch spectacle maker.
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This is about in 1608,
and spectacles were all the rage
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and they'd just been invented -
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and so now if you step over here,
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what he realised is if you put
a lens which you use for reading
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and a lens that you use
for distance viewing together
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and you move them around,
what you get is magnification.
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Now, Emma, I don't know if you can
see at the back of the room -
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yes, someone
is holding a sign there.
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Now, I can see
"my favourite planet is."
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Now, can you read the bottom word?
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I think it starts with an M,
but I'm not sure about the rest.
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OK. So it's a bit blurry. OK.
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Now, what I want to do is do exactly
what Hans Lippershey did.
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So move these lenses around
and see if you can actually see
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that image up there.
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So if you can, can you look through?
OK. Perfect.
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Can you read it through here?
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- Mars.
- Ah, OK.
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But that's what Hans Lippershey did.
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He effectively put these two lenses
together and got magnification.
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So thank you. A round of
applause for our volunteer.
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APPLAUSE
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Thank you.
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So that is what Galileo did.
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He took a telescope like that...
Oh, lovely.
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..and made it into something
like this.
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So this is effectively
a Galilean telescope.
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And so you've got a lens at one end,
a lens at the other,
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and then you can actually sort of
adjust the focus,
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just as we were doing there,
with this bit here.
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Don't forget we're going back
to 1608 -
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and if you've ever seen
any old buildings
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and the glass in the
windows of those old buildings,
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it's not very good quality glass.
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And so the question was,
could you still get magnification,
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but without passing the light
through the lens?
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Well, that brings us back
to this demonstration.
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Now, do you want
to give it another grind again?
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Ooh! See, with that abrasive paste,
can you feel what's happening?
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- Yes.
- Yeah. Because I think you're
actually grinding away the glass.
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Yeah.
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And what actually happens is...
Oops.
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..the one on the bottom
becomes convex,
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and so it's like a hill,
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and the one above becomes concave.
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- So it's like you scrape out
the glass.
- Yeah.
- Yeah!
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Now, when you are grinding,
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that results in a shape
that is a spherical surface.
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Now, the problem with a sphere
is it doesn't bring light
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to a nice tight focus,
because what we're trying to do
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is have a mirror that takes light
from a very, very distant object,
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it hits the glass mirror, and then
we bring it down to a focus.
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Now, unfortunately,
a spherical surface can't do that.
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But what we can do is continue
working the telescope mirror
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to form something called a parabola,
which is a different shape,
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but it brings light
from a distance to a sharp focus.
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And so that's just what we did.
So thank you very much.
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I think a round of applause
for our volunteer again. Thank you.
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APPLAUSE
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Perfect.
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So what we actually need is to coat
that glass
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with something like
aluminium or silver
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to get a really shiny surface.
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And that's what we've got in here.
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So this is the basis
of a new telescope.
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Now, the person who came up
with the idea of this telescope
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was Sir Isaac Newton,
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and Sir Isaac Newton realised that
you could actually get magnification
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by using a mirror.
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But the light path through this
is very different -
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and I can show you
with smoke and lasers.
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So thank you.
If you put the lasers on.
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MACHINE WHIRS
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Ah. See? Smoke and mirrors,
that's what it's all about.
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Ooh!
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Now, at the moment, these lasers
are representing the light
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from a distant object -
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so maybe a star or a galaxy
that is a long, long, long way away.
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So the light comes in
in nice parallel lines,
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and then what happens is that light
will travel through the telescope
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and it will hit
our reflecting mirror.
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And then that mirror, as we said,
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is designed to actually bring
that light to a nice tight focus.
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{\an8}So it throws the light back up
towards this flat mirror here.
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Now, this flat mirror
you can buy off the shelf -
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and what that does is,
if I take the cap off...
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..and a bit more smoke,
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you might be able to see the laser
light coming out through the top.
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Can you see the laser light
coming out of the top?
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So that light has travelled
from a distant star,
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travelled through the telescope,
reflected off our primary mirror,
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it goes up to this secondary mirror,
and then it is sent out to our eye.
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Now, these days we have
very good quality glass,
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but the challenge is,
if you actually want to make
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a really big telescope, imagine
sort of getting a lens that big
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and grinding and polishing -
it's really quite hard.
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And so, now, for the bigger
telescopes that we use
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right here on the ground, we
actually use the Newtonian method.
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And what I was making was
a Newtonian telescope,
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because it's quite a simple design.
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And so now we have some
amazing telescopes out there,
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telescopes like the VLT.
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Now, VLT stands for
Very Large Telescope.
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That is truly the name
of this telescope - the VLT.
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So you saw the mirror at the
back end of this telescope,
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the primary mirror
of these telescopes
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is eight metres in diameter.
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It's not just one
very large telescope,
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it's four very large telescopes,
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each one with a primary mirror
of eight metres.
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But the VLT is getting quite old,
it's been out there for 25 years,
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and so now they're building the
next generation of space telescope.
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And we simply call that the ELT -
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the Extremely Large Telescope.
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And this is it.
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The ELT actually has a primary
mirror 39 metre in diameter.
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And so, now, this isn't a
single block of glass,
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it's made actually of a number
of sections which are put together
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to make this glorious telescope.
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So the ELT will probably
be coming online
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in about the next
two or three years.
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We'll point it up at the night sky
and get glorious images -
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but the telescope I hope to see
in my lifetime,
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we simply call the OWL.
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And that stands for the
Overwhelmingly Large Telescope.
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Truly, I am not making this up!
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And so this is a picture of
the Overwhelmingly Large Telescope.
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If we build this telescope,
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this telescope will have a primary
mirror of 100 metres in diameter.
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So we're talking about a mirror
the size of a football pitch.
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And, of course, with a telescope,
the bigger your mirror,
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the more light you can gather, and
so the fainter objects you can see.
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Now, I mentioned that I sort of
ground and polished
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my own telescope mirror
when I was about 14 years of age,
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and when I actually got
the telescope together,
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I was so excited.
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And I kept on thinking,
so what do I want to have a look at?
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What is my first object in the
night sky that I want to look at?
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And so, of course,
the first thing was the moon.
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Now, it turns out I was following
in some very good footsteps,
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because one of the first things
that Galileo did
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is he also looked at the moon -
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and these are the images he took.
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This is Galileo looking through
the telescope
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and making a drawing of what he saw.
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You see all sorts of craters
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and all sorts of things
on the moon's surface.
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Before that, people thought
the moon's surface
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was just a round sphere -
but now there was details on it.
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Details you could see
with the telescope.
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And so some people started
speculating, you know,
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perhaps some of those darker patches
are sort of large oceans
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on the moon's surface.
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And if you have oceans and mountains
and things like that,
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maybe there is life on the moon.
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And so what I'd like to do is invite
someone who actually works here
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at the Royal Institution -
Charlotte New.
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APPLAUSE
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So Charlotte, you work here
at the Royal Institution -
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and I think you've got something
from the archive here to show us.
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I have, yes. So first we have
this wonderfully old book
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that was first published in 1638.
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- 1638.
- 1638,
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and it was published by and written
by a guy called John Wilkins,
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who was a clergyman and a scientist.
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Ah! Yes.
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And it details information
about the moon,
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so it has a very interesting
title piece.
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OK, lovely.
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And so this is "a discourse tending
to prove that 'tis probable
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"there may be another habitable
world in the moon."
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- In the moon, yeah.
- Oh!
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So I think, inspired by things like
Galileo's pictures
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and pictures that people
were taking with telescopes,
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from seeing that surface
and realising that it's not smooth,
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people started to speculate as to
whether there's life on the moon.
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- They did.
- But I think they went
further as well, didn't they?
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They did - and he even goes on
to say on another page here...
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..that you can get there by means
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"of a flying chariot."
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DR ADERIN-POCOCK LAUGHS
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So they were talking about taking
a flying chariot to the moon
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- and hopefully, I guess,
to meet the Moon People.
- Indeed.
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OK, perfect. And so that
was the current state of technology.
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We started using the telescope,
we were looking at the moon
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and thinking that there might be
life out there.
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So the next important breakthrough
was, I guess, photography.
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- Photography, yes.
- And we've got an example here.
- Yes.
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So this is a wonderful glass plate
taken by Warren De La Rue in 1859,
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and it's one of the first
full pictures of the moon.
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- OK. And so we've moved on
some 200 years now.
- Yeah.
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So photography was quite new
at this stage.
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- Yes. So it's actually announced here
in 1839.
- Oh, right.
- Yes.
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- Part of our history.
- Part of our history. Lovely.
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But I think this is
a glorious image.
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I see, looking up there, I would
like to have a projection like that
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in my room -
as a self-certified lunatic,
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- that would be lovely to have.
- Indeed.
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So thank you so much, Charlotte.
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- It was lovely to see these exhibits.
- Thank you very much.
- Thank you.
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APPLAUSE
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So that's what I find
most interesting,
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is the advent of photography
in terms of astronomy
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was a major leap forward -
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and for many, many years we were
using photographic plates
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to capture images of the night sky,
but in glorious detail.
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Then we started taking photographs
of what we saw through a telescope.
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But then the next step forward
was actually to get out there.
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What if we could get closer to
the moon, not through a telescope,
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but actually getting
physically closer to the moon?
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And one of the first probes to do
this was actually called Luna 3.
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Now, Luna 3 was made
by the Soviet Union, the USSR,
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and it actually went on a journey
out there into space
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and went and orbited the moon
and came back home.
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Now, one of the things
you might not have realised
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is we only see one side of the moon.
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That's because
as the moon orbits the Earth,
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the moon spins on its axis,
but as it orbits,
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the same side of the moon
is always pointing towards Earth.
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And so people got quite excited.
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Maybe that's where
the Moon People lived,
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on the far side of the moon,
which we couldn't see from Earth.
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Now, we don't have any pictures
taken by Luna 3,
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because that was quite
some time ago -
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but I'd like to show you
this picture.
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Now, this picture is actually
a real picture
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and it shows us
the far side of the moon.
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So there is a probe
with a camera on it,
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and it's looking towards the moon
and towards the Earth.
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First thing to say about this image
is the Moon People are not there.
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But I think this picture
is quite amazing
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because it shows you the moon
and it shows our planet Earth,
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and so it just sets the scale.
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As I say, this isn't photoshopped,
this is a real image.
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So again, we've gone through
that journey.
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We look at the moon
with the naked eye,
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we look at the moon
with a telescope,
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we take photographic plates,
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we actually journey out to the moon
and then come back -
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but the next step, of course,
was landing on the moon,
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and that happened in 1969,
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with Neil Armstrong stepping out
onto the moon's surface.
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Now, the moon landings
were very much driven by a race.
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It was what they called
the Space Race.
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So it was the USSR against the USA,
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and they were both trying to show
that they were the better nation
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or they were the better people,
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and so they had this
technological battle in space.
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But since then, we've been working
in an era of collaboration
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where different nations actually
pool their resources in space.
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Space is incredibly expensive,
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and so in 1975, you get things
like the formation
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of the European Space Agency -
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so the countries of Europe
putting their money together
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to go further into space.
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Now, I am incredibly excited,
because in the theatre today,
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we are going to be joined by
the latest generation
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of ESA astronauts, and they're going
to come into the theatre here.
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And this is Rosemary Coogan,
Meganne Christian and John McFall.
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Please come in.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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I can't help it. I always smile
when I see astronauts. Ooh!
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So thank you very much
for joining me today.
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Now, Rosemary,
I'd like to start with you.
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Now, we were talking about
international collaboration,
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like the formation
of the European Space Agency.
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Why is that important,
and what does it mean to you?
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Yeah, it's so important.
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I absolutely love with working
with people from all over the world,
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all over the planet.
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It really started for me
when I was in my 20s,
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the first time I lived abroad,
and it was completely life-changing,
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because for space, it is
so important -
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to get to space, to live there
is incredibly difficult.
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It's something we can't do alone
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and so we need the countries
to work together.
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We achieve so much more
when we do that.
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- Yes.
- And it also gives this platform
for countries to work together
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towards a shared goal at times
where I think we really need it.
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Yes - and that's what I really like.
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From space, you don't see countries,
you don't see barriers,
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you just see planet Earth.
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And I think it's really lovely
that space can unite like that.
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Perfect. Thank you.
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Now, Meganne, why is it still
important to send humans into space,
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and especially when we're looking
for signs of life out there?
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Well, we are doing a really good job
with robots on Mars, right?
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We have rovers.
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But rovers can only
go so far and so fast.
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So we really need humans there
as well,
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because humans can do things faster,
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humans have a kind of intuition
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and are really good
at problem-solving.
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So if we want to speed up our search
for life elsewhere,
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we need to send humans there
to do it.
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I'm happy to be that human!
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So are we!
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THEY LAUGH
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It's slightly more likely for you,
I think.
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Now, John, I'd like to ask, what
does it take to be an astronaut?
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Well, typically astronauts come from
a test pilot background
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or a science background, usually.
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Now, all of us actually here
come from a science background.
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Me, in particular, I'm a doctor,
a medical doctor,
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an orthopaedic surgeon.
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But what's interesting
about astronauts,
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is we are not brilliant
at any one thing -
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and the thing about
being an astronaut,
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is you actually have to be good
at many, many different things.
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So not just have a
scientific background
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or a test pilot background,
but be good communicators,
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be resilient, problem solvers,
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self-aware, all sorts of stuff.
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- So you need a broad,
broad set of skills.
- Lovely.
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Now, John, I believe
you're the first person
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with a physical disability
to actually be certified
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for life on the
International Space Station.
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Absolutely, yes.
I'm a leg amputee.
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I lost my leg on a motorcycle
about 25 years ago,
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and I use a prosthesis.
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And a couple of years ago, the space
agency, European Space Agency,
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wanted to see if it was possible
to clear the path to space
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for an astronaut with
a physical disability.
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And at the beginning of this year,
actually, I was the first person
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with a physical disability, as you
say, to be medically certified
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to fly to the
International Space Station.
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- This is a world first.
- Yes, I know -
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but I find it really exciting,
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because it is opening up
sort of that life in space
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to more and more people.
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So thank you very much.
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Now, John, if you could stay with me
and Rosemary and Meganne,
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if you could take a seat
on the hot step,
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I think you'll be
joining me again later.
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APPLAUSE
OK, big applause. What the heck?
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Thank you so much.
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Now, John, we were talking
about earlier
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what it takes to be an astronaut.
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- And so I effectively want to put you
through your paces.
- Oh, dear.
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Yes!
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THEY LAUGH
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- But on top of that, I want to give
you a bit of competition.
- Oh, OK.
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OK. So now I need a volunteer
from the audience -
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but, but, I need someone
who is good on fair ground rides,
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who doesn't mind you know getting
spun around and things like that.
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OK? Oh, OK.
That is a classic Christmas jumper.
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Come on down.
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APPLAUSE
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Lovely to meet you.
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Now, first of all, what's your name?
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- I'm George.
- George.
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Now, if you'd like to come up here,
this is your challenge.
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And so what we have here
is a dexterity test.
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So I'm going to hold up
one of these.
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Each one of these pegs
has a planet on the outside,
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the name is also written here,
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and that needs to match
a planet on this board with holes.
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And so what we're going to do is I'm
going to get you to put these in.
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Now, they're quite a tight fit, OK?
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And so now, John, I think you've
done something like this before.
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We do some reaction stuff
and sort of perceptual speed,
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- this sort of stuff in the selection,
yeah.
- OK.
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- So you're on home turf here.
- Mmm... Yeah, maybe a little bit.
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Maybe. OK.
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But to make it a little bit more
interesting, what I want to do is,
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well, let's just do it.
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Bring on the Chairs of Doom!
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THUNDERCLAP
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APPLAUSE
477
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,520
Unfortunately,
I think due to budget cuts,
478
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,080
the Chairs of Doom
actually got a bit cut down -
479
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,520
but, please, take a seat.
480
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,240
So what we're going to do here,
we're going to spin you around
481
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,600
for 20 seconds,
so you'll be a bit disoriented.
482
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,960
Then I want you to get up
and go and put the pegs in
483
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,440
as quickly as you can.
484
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,960
And we're going to give you
15 seconds to do that.
485
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,800
OK. Yes!
486
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,800
- And, now, John, if George wins,
he's the new astronaut.
- Yeah.
487
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,720
- You're leaving with this on.
- Yeah.
488
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,720
THEY LAUGH
489
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,400
OK, start the clock.
490
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,840
OK. So 19, 18... OK.
491
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,720
We're spinning quite fast, actually!
492
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,240
I'm glad I'm not doing this.
I don't think I'd survive!
493
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,080
John, you're going into orbit.
Come back.
494
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,400
Am I going to still going to be in
the theatre by the end of this?
495
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,200
I know! So how are we doing?
496
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,760
Oh, six, five, four...
497
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,720
..three, two, one.
498
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,840
OK.
499
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,560
- OK.
- Whew!
500
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,920
OK, so now, John and George, I will
be marking you on accuracy as well.
501
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,520
So we've got to count down.
502
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,480
So nine, eight, seven...
503
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,640
..six, five, four,
504
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,360
three, two, one.
505
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:43,720
Put your pegs down. John, John.
506
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,320
That was sneaky.
507
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,960
- Right to the line.
- Right to the line!
508
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,840
Make the most of every second. OK!
509
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,960
Ooh. I don't know
what happened to Jupiter there!
510
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,480
OK. So how did you find that?
511
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,200
George, let's start with you.
512
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,040
It was quite difficult
because I was still spinning.
513
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,440
Reeling? Yes, yes, from the chair.
514
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,640
And so let's see. OK.
You've got one, two, three, four.
515
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,040
Four, I think that's a good effort.
516
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,240
OK, but now over to
the trained astronaut.
517
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,840
OK, how many we've got?
One, two, three, four, five, six.
518
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,160
OK.
519
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,360
I'm sorry, you don't get the suit.
SHE LAUGHS
520
00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:15,680
Well, thank you so much -
521
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,920
- and a big round of applause for
George, please.
- Well done, mate.
522
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,640
APPLAUSE
523
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,080
Thank you so much, John.
524
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,720
We've put you through your paces -
and you've survived.
525
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,280
So if you'd like to go
and sit on the astronaut seat.
526
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,880
And, Rosemary, would
you like to come up?
527
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,080
APPLAUSE
528
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,000
Now, Rosemary, one of the things -
you haven't been into space yet,
529
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,320
but you're in training and you're
training for a mission to the ISS.
530
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,360
- Is that correct?
- Yeah, that's right.
- Lovely.
531
00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:42,800
Now, let's see what the ISS is.
532
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,360
- The ISS is the
International Space Station.
- Yes.
533
00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,800
So this is the
International Space Station.
534
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,200
It's kind of as it sounds.
535
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,240
- It is a station, a laboratory
that is flying through space.
- OK.
536
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,880
So it's flying above us 250 miles
above the surface of the Earth,
537
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,360
and it's going 18,000 miles an hour.
538
00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:03,120
So it's going very, very quickly,
539
00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:04,960
and it goes round and round
the Earth
540
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,080
- every one and a half hours.
- Oh!
541
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,000
So, so, so every 45 minutes
you get a sunrise and sunset.
542
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,640
Yeah. 16 times a day on orbit
543
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,800
you will see a sunrise and a sunset.
If you're awake all day!
544
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,720
Of course, if you're awake all day.
And so we've got the solar panels,
545
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,640
we've got the
International Space Station.
546
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,280
- And also we've got these
different modules.
- Yeah, exactly -
547
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,160
and, you know, we have modules
at the front from NASA,
548
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,760
- from ESA, from JAXA.
- Japanese space
agency.
- Yeah, that's right.
549
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,800
- We have Roscosmos at the back here.
- Russian.
550
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,280
So there's five different space
agencies all contributing to this.
551
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,240
We've got 23 countries
already within ESA,
552
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,120
so it's loads and loads
of countries.
553
00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:42,800
It really is international.
554
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,720
And essentially it's a place
to do science,
555
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,240
because we have microgravity,
or weightlessness,
556
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,480
when we're on the ISS,
557
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,680
and we can learn so much
in this environment
558
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,160
that we can't learn on Earth.
559
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,320
So the majority of these modules
are laboratory, scientific modules,
560
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,560
but we do have a few that aren't.
561
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,760
So right in the middle,
we've got the cupola here
562
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,560
where we see these iconic views,
563
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,440
and just above it
is what we call Node 3 -
564
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,240
and this is where we have the gym,
we have the toilets,
565
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,320
and just next door to it is Node 1,
where we do our food preparation.
566
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,760
OK. And speaking of food, I think
we've prepared a snack earlier.
567
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,800
THEY LAUGH
568
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,960
So, yeah. So we brought in
some space food,
569
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,840
just because I thought it was
kind of interesting
570
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,120
to see the different types of food
that we can eat in space.
571
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:28,600
So this here is a
space chocolate bar.
572
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,040
And it actually says on the back,
573
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,280
"the healthiest chocolate bar
in the universe,"
574
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,680
which I thought was really fun.
575
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,280
- That's quite a statement!
- You can
just unwrap this and eat this.
576
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,680
And then we have lasagne, which just
gets put straight in the oven.
577
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,400
And this is macaroni cheese,
578
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,680
- which has been completely
dehydrated.
- Ooh.
579
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,520
So you use this opening here to put
in hot water from the machines
580
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,760
and in five to ten minutes
581
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,160
it will become beautiful macaroni
cheese again.
582
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,520
When you say beautiful,
have you tried any of this food?
583
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,040
I haven't tried the macaroni cheese,
584
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,400
but I've had some other space food
and I thought it was great.
585
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,800
- And, you know, sending it up
like this...
- She has to say that!
586
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,000
- ..is much, much lighter.
- OK, lovely.
587
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,920
But after a number of processes
in the body,
588
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,440
I guess food has to come out.
589
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,360
- Yes.
- Now, going to the loo in space,
I was told, was...challenging,
590
00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,080
I think that's the best way
to put it.
591
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,880
Yeah - and it's something we
get asked about a lot,
592
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,440
and it's something that I wouldn't
have really thought about,
593
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,320
you know, before being in this role,
594
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,440
but actually when you go
to the toilet on Earth,
595
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,840
everything kind of goes down.
You know where you're going
596
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,320
and it's easy and simple.
597
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,360
But in microgravity,
you go to the toilet,
598
00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:28,760
- things can start floating around...
- OK, I'm backing away now.
599
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,240
- ..and you need to stop that
happening.
- Yes!
- Exactly.
600
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,400
So actually they've got
a great system.
601
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,960
So to go for a wee in space,
you have a funnel
602
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,360
attached to a long hose that has
an air flow going through it.
603
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,920
And when you wee in there, you know
exactly where you're aiming.
604
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,240
- OK, lovely.
- And everything is simple.
605
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,560
- And it gets sucked away?
- Exactly.
- Yes!
606
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,640
- Sucked away and recycled...
- Oh, recycled.
607
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,120
..into fresh drinking water.
608
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:49,360
So let's just think about that
for a moment.
609
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:52,480
So pee and other things
go through the system
610
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,160
- and they get recycled.
- Yeah.
611
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,040
- Recycled into drinking water?
- Yeah.
612
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,520
All of the water on the ISS -
so this is the sweat,
613
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,440
the water we use to wash with,
the water vapour in the air
614
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,200
we breathe out and our urine,
it all goes and gets cleaned
615
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,760
and turned back into drinking water.
616
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,040
So it's an amazing technology
617
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,280
that we'll need as we go
further and further afield.
618
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,920
OK. Perfect.
619
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,360
You're slightly putting me off
the whole situation now!
620
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:15,000
Oh, no! It's a great system.
621
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,360
It works really well!
622
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:18,640
So fantastic. So that's food
and going to the loo.
623
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,720
But also, the International Space
Station is getting a little old now,
624
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,320
it's about 25 years old.
625
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,720
And it's been a glorious
collaboration, as you say,
626
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,000
of countries across the world.
627
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,600
So what's coming next?
628
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,880
Yeah. So as you say, I mean,
actually the ISS
629
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,960
has had humans living on it
permanently
630
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,200
for more than 25 years now,
which I think is really impressive -
631
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,520
but in the next few years it is
going to be decommissioned.
632
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,240
But there's still a lot
to look forward to
633
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,400
in terms of stations going around
the Earth.
634
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,440
We'll either have a new station
or several stations
635
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,080
almost replacing the ISS,
636
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,280
and beyond that,
we actually have a collaboration
637
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,560
between ESA and NASA
going back to the moon.
638
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,120
- Ooh!
- And this is
the Artemis mission.
639
00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:01,080
So I know you've just been talking
about the moon, so it's a hot topic.
640
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,160
- Yes.
- And we're really building
upon what Apollo has taught us.
641
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,760
It's more than 50 years
since we've been to the moon.
642
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,600
And this time, as we go back,
we're going to be having Europeans
643
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,360
go to the moon and around the moon
for the first time.
644
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:15,280
We're going to have a space station
that goes around the moon...
645
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,160
- Orbits the moon?
- ..instead of going
around the Earth.
- Yes.
646
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,760
The first crewed mission of this,
of Artemis
647
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,920
is, actually, our American
and our Canadian colleagues
648
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,360
are training for that
next year already.
649
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:28,560
- So it's happening really,
really soon.
- And I must admit,
650
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,760
this is something which would be
a dream come true for me.
651
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,640
But we do actually have amongst us
652
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,480
- someone who has been to the moon.
- Ah!
653
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,320
So I think he's with his handler.
654
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,200
So no photography please,
but here he is.
655
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,480
This is Shaun the Sheep.
656
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,080
Thank you very much. Thank you.
657
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,040
Yes. This is Shaun the Sheep.
658
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,560
Now, so this actual model of
Shaun the Sheep has been into space,
659
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,920
has been in orbit around the moon.
Is that the case?
660
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,240
Yeah, exactly.
661
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,480
This Shaun the Sheep actually did
the first Artemis mission,
662
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,480
Artemis I, just a few years ago.
663
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,960
He very bravely tested out all
of the systems
664
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,000
because there were no other
astronauts on board to help him.
665
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,720
And he has returned safely.
666
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,040
And I had the pleasure
of meeting him, actually,
667
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,160
just after his mission for the first
time a couple of years ago.
668
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,280
And he's a great ambassador for it.
669
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,440
- Well, he doesn't look frazzled
by the whole journey.
- He doesn't.
670
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,840
- He looks pretty cool.
- He looks really chilled.
671
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,800
In fact, I'm sure he looked like
that before he went, but, yes...
672
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,760
And so I have to say it,
it does feel like one giant leap
673
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,920
for lambkind.
674
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,920
AUDIENCE GROANS
675
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,760
OK, OK. I'll go!
676
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,320
So much for the career
as a stand-up comic.
677
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,280
And now, thank you so much
for joining us -
678
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,280
and I think a round of applause
for Rosemary, please.
679
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,480
APPLAUSE
680
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,160
To find out more about plans of
actually setting humans on the moon,
681
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,520
I'd like to recall Meganne
to the stage, please.
682
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,840
Thank you. Meganne.
683
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,840
APPLAUSE
684
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,600
Now, Meganne, what are the plans
for Artemis II?
685
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,000
Artemis II, there are going
to be humans on board,
686
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,280
and so they're going to be testing
all the systems
687
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,680
for an eventual moon landing
from Artemis III onwards.
688
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,680
- OK.
- So, yeah, so Artemis II is
going back to a bit like Apollo 8,
689
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,280
the first mission where we
had humans going around the moon.
690
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,040
Now, it's quite interesting
talking about a moon base,
691
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,520
because as far as I'm concerned,
692
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,000
we've been talking about
moon bases almost forever,
693
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,080
since before we actually went
to the moon.
694
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,800
But it is a very exciting prospect
for me.
695
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,800
But it has got its challenges.
696
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,160
I think the temperature on the
moon's surface, for instance -
697
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,840
on the day side of the moon where
the sunlight is hitting it directly,
698
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,080
I think it's about plus 150 degrees,
699
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,560
but on the night side,
where the sunlight isn't hitting it,
700
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,400
it's about minus 150 degrees.
701
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,360
And so we need to make sort of
habitation and things like that
702
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,760
on the moon's surface that can
survive these extreme conditions.
703
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,440
And this time with the
Artemis mission,
704
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,120
we're going back to stay.
705
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,560
Now, I guess one of the challenges,
if we can send resources
706
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,440
- to the moon, that's going to be
expensive.
- Yeah, that's right.
707
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,320
I mean, think about it, you have
to take everything with you
708
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,360
to the moon. The moon doesn't have
an atmosphere, you can't breathe,
709
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,600
you can't go and stand
on the surface of the moon
710
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,840
and breathe what's there.
711
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,160
So you have to take all that
oxygen with you.
712
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,040
You have to take all your water
and all your food with you -
713
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,760
and that gets really, really heavy,
714
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,200
and it's already hard enough to get
to the moon by yourself.
715
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,560
So we want to be able
to use the resources
716
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,640
that are already available there.
717
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,480
So we've found that there is
actually ice inside the lunar dust,
718
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,720
the regolith,
719
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,680
and so perhaps we can use that.
720
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,640
- OK.
- We can use the resources
available on the moon to support us.
721
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,400
OK. That sounds very exciting -
722
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,200
and so now, to actually demonstrate
this in a little more detail,
723
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,120
what I'd like to do is actually
ask for a volunteer.
724
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,440
Any volunteers in the audience?
725
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,560
OK. I've got a chap with a
red jumper and a white shirt.
726
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,920
Yes, you.
Do you want to come on down?
727
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,640
Oh, look. It's you.
728
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,520
APPLAUSE
729
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,520
- Thank you.
- Thank you.
- Oh, pleasure.
730
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,120
So, first of all, what's your name?
731
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,600
- Nakul.
- Nakul?
732
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,200
- Very nice to meet you, Nakul.
- Nice to meet you too.
733
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,400
SHE LAUGHS
734
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,440
So what we're going to do
is we're talking about utilising
735
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,000
those lunar resources.
736
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,360
Meganne mentioned that on
the moon we have discovered water.
737
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,920
Now, what is the chemical make-up
of water? Does anyone know?
738
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,160
Actually, shout it out if you know.
739
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,640
H2O.
740
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,920
Good old H2O.
741
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,520
And so that translates
to hydrogen and oxygen.
742
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,400
Now, Meganne, you mentioned
that on the moon's surface
743
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,960
it has no atmosphere and so we need
to take our own supply.
744
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,520
Now, what we're taking
from our atmosphere is oxygen,
745
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,800
and that's what we need to breathe -
746
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,560
so the fact that water contains
oxygen is really useful.
747
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,680
But then we also
talk about hydrogen.
748
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,320
Now, hydrogen we can actually use
to fuel rockets,
749
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,120
and one of the nice ideas
about having a moon base
750
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,240
is we can use it as a staging post
751
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,960
to go to other parts
of the solar system.
752
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,600
The moon is smaller
than planet Earth, it has less mass,
753
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,720
so launching things from the moon's
surface should be cheaper
754
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,480
once you've got the base.
755
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,800
And so what we're going to do is try
and do a demonstration of that.
756
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,200
So we have actually some water
in this tube.
757
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,200
So what's going on here is a process
called electrolysis.
758
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,720
We're passing a current
through the water
759
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,640
and it's splitting it up
into hydrogen and oxygen.
760
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,480
And that's what you can
see bubbling out of this tube.
761
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,760
So what I want us to do
is launch our own rocket.
762
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,520
There is your rocket, and we're
going to launch it into space.
763
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,880
Now, I'm going to fill up the rocket
with fuel,
764
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,280
the oxygen and the hydrogen.
765
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,640
Then I'm going to put it
onto the launchpad.
766
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,880
Then what we need you to do
is actually launch the rocket.
767
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,840
Now, you do that by pressing
that red button,
768
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,200
but it's a press and a hold, because
I think many people realise here
769
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,120
that hydrogen and oxygen
are both flammable.
770
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,360
So you will set out the spark,
so you'll hold it down
771
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,080
and you'll have a spark,
and that will ignite the fuel
772
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,120
inside the canister
and whoosh to the stars.
773
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,360
So that's the plan.
774
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,840
Now, I'm going to give you some
ear defenders and also some glasses.
775
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,840
So I'll put these on too. Perfect.
776
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,320
- Now, for health and safety, you're
going to be the key operator.
- Yes.
777
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,320
So what we're going to do is, first
of all, I need to fuel our rocket.
778
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,640
So this is the rocket.
779
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,560
Now, it turns out that hydrogen
is lighter than air.
780
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,720
So if I take this out,
what I'm going to do
781
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,800
is count for ten seconds
to fill up the rocket with fuel.
782
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,600
So one, two...
783
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,240
..three, four,
784
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,320
five, six, seven,
785
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,200
eight, nine, ten.
786
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,240
OK, put that back in there.
787
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,000
Now, I've got to get on the
launchpad quickly
788
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,600
because I don't want
that gas escaping.
789
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,120
Ah, yeah, that's a reassuring click.
790
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,880
And then what I'm going to do
is I'm going to step back
791
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,440
and then what we're going to do
is count down from five,
792
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,040
and then you're going to press
and hold and we'll see what happens.
793
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,120
OK. So five...
794
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,960
..four, three,
795
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,360
two, one.
796
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,640
LOUD BANG
797
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,640
Whoa!
798
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,760
APPLAUSE
799
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:34,720
That's wonderful.
I'm just going to take this off.
800
00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:37,800
So thank you so much. That was a
brilliant launch, very successful.
801
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,920
And congratulations -
802
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,160
and a round of applause
for our volunteer, please.
803
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,440
APPLAUSE
804
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,440
Thank you.
805
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,720
Thank you to all the astronauts.
806
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:49,800
Thank you so much for joining us and
sharing your experiences with us.
807
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,000
So I think an extra big round
of applause for our astronauts.
808
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,240
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
809
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,480
Now, it's quite interesting
because I think many people
810
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,160
might not be aware, but every time
we do a Christmas lecture,
811
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,720
one of the things we do
is have a Youth Summit.
812
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:13,840
Now, there was someone here in the
audience that was actually at that,
813
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,120
one of those Youth Summits.
814
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,960
Now, Ella, I'm going to come up
and see you.
815
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,880
So excuse me. Oops!
816
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,440
Now, Ella, first of all,
can I ask you, how old are you?
817
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,360
So I am 17 years old.
818
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,680
- 17 years old.
- Yeah.
- OK.
819
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,960
- So you were at the London
Youth Summit, I believe.
- I was.
820
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,240
- You were speaking at it?
- I was
speaking at the Youth Summit, yeah.
821
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:31,080
Lovely. And so, what were you
talking about?
822
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,600
So I was talking
about the space economy.
823
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,280
It started off with governments,
824
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,720
- governments were running
the space industry.
- Yes.
825
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:39,640
And it wasn't until we
had billionaires,
826
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,960
that there were people who could
afford to ask that question of,
827
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,640
how do we turn this
into a business opportunity?
828
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,880
- OK.
- So we have Richard Branson,
who has founded Virgin Galactic.
829
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,920
They are looking at space tourism.
830
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,920
- So any of us could,
in theory, be a space tourist.
- Yes.
831
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,240
You also have Jeff Bezos,
CEO of Amazon
832
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:01,560
and now founder of Blue Origin.
833
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,720
One of Blue Origin's missions
is taking all infrastructure
834
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:08,800
- and heavy industries up
off of Earth and into space.
- Wow.
835
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,640
And so effectively
that would give us a greener future.
836
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,280
On the flip side, you have
Elon Musk, founder of SpaceX.
837
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,480
He is looking at
sending humanity to Mars.
838
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,040
He really created a shift
in this industry
839
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,600
because he developed
reusable rockets.
840
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,240
That is what caused the shift,
841
00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:28,480
- because now millionaires
could access this industry.
- Ooh.
842
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,200
And there are a lot more
millionaires
843
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,320
than there are billionaires.
This is a transition period.
844
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,040
- This is the new space age.
- Fantastic.
- Yeah.
845
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,000
- Well, lovely to speak to you.
- It was nice speaking to you, Maggie.
846
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,560
And I wish I was doing this sort
of thing you're doing when I was 17.
847
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,200
- Well, yeah, maybe.
- Lovely to speak to you.
848
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,680
- And a round of applause.
Thank you.
- Thank you.
849
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,720
APPLAUSE
850
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,560
So we're exploring how we
utilise a moon base
851
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,040
to actually travel further
into the solar system -
852
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,040
and it just makes so much sense.
853
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,120
And so we're going to go
on in our journey,
854
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,080
but I think before we can understand
a sort of a life on another planet,
855
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,480
we need to get an understanding
of life right here on Earth.
856
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,800
And the thing is, we have a variety
of life here.
857
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,720
We have life up in the air,
we have life on the land,
858
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:18,560
we have life in the oceans,
a variety of life.
859
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,360
Now, what I'd like to do now
is to invite some people in
860
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,360
from the Natural History Museum -
Srishti and Chris.
861
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,560
APPLAUSE
862
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,680
Now, I'm quite excited by this,
863
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,200
because I'm usually talking about
things far away, the big universe -
864
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,520
and now we're going to...
865
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,120
We've got a microscope,
so that makes me very excited.
866
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,080
Now, Srishti, you've been going
around cemeteries
867
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,760
- and collecting samples.
- Yeah!
868
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,320
This makes me slightly worried.
So what have you got in the jar?
869
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,880
So this is moss from
Tower Hamlets Cemetery.
870
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,960
- So this is just normal moss?
- Just regular moss that we've...
871
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,800
Well, I did get them from
gravestones, but, you know.
872
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,040
We won't ask too many questions,
I think.
873
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,600
It was very easy, you just kind of
pick it up, yeah. It's not hard.
874
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,760
But why have you got this?
Why is this of interest?
875
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,880
So we were looking at moss
because there are actually animals
876
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,080
and other organisms living in this
moss that are very, very cool.
877
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,640
And you might not think, you know,
878
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,640
you can't really see much
in this right now,
879
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,920
but if you use a microscope,
you can actually see a whole world
880
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,360
of animals just living in it
that are just really tiny.
881
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,640
OK, lovely.
882
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,280
Chris, you're operating
the microscope,
883
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,800
and so you've got a sample
that was taken from this
884
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,560
- in the petri dish underneath.
- That's right.
- Fantastic.
885
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,520
So what are we seeing
in this microscopic world?
886
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,080
- So most of the life you can't see,
it's single celled organisms.
- Ah.
887
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,080
Too small even for this microscope.
888
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,680
- But we can see that there
is some life.
- Oh, yeah.
889
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,600
- So you see that little writhing,
snake-like form there?
- This one?
890
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,000
- Yeah. That one, yeah.
- So that's called a nematode.
891
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,720
This is a group of organisms that
occurs on all parts of the Earth,
892
00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:58,360
wherever there is even a
little bit of liquid water,
893
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,200
bottom ocean, top of high mountains.
894
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,000
They've been found miles
beneath the Earth's surface.
895
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,720
So these things are
in that petri dish?
896
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:09,120
- From literally this exact moss,
as well, so...
- Yes!
897
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,880
There's another creature there
just creeping out of view.
898
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,440
Let's see if I can follow her.
899
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,400
Oh, yeah. There's our movie star.
900
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,160
So these are organisms
called tardigrades,
901
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,120
or, if you like, a more cuddly term,
water bears.
902
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,840
Water bears? Yes!
903
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,360
Why are they interesting?
904
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,480
They're really,
really cool creatures.
905
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,680
So moss has this property
where it dries out
906
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,280
and then it gets wet again,
and it goes through these cycles.
907
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,040
Animals like tardigrades are
specialised to be dealing with that,
908
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,000
so they can also dry out
and be completely fine.
909
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,640
And then when they're rehydrated,
they go back to normal.
910
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,680
- Can they go into more extreme
conditions?
- They really can -
911
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,040
and in fact they have been studied
for that purpose.
912
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,680
They were sent up to space, lots of
animals have been sent to space,
913
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,360
but these were the first ones
to be sent into a vacuum
914
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,560
and come out just fine, which is...
915
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,240
- Vacuum means that they
can't breathe.
- Yeah.
916
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:01,360
Lack of oxygen, extreme radiation,
917
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,440
weird temperatures, all of it.
918
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,080
So they are able to withstand very,
very difficult environments
919
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,480
which we would not be able to.
920
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,760
- Do we know how they survive
these environments?
- Yeah.
921
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,080
So they've got some specialisations
in the proteins that they make,
922
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,080
which are very specific to them,
that helps protect their cells,
923
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,120
and they have other proteins and
other methods
924
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,000
in which they can repair DNA damage,
925
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,760
which would happen when you have
a lot of radiation
926
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,840
or a lot of cold
or any of these things.
927
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,160
They enter this thing called a
tun state where they curl up,
928
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,880
they hide all their legs, they hide
their head in their cuticles
929
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,600
of their shells,
they sort of completely dry out.
930
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,320
And once they are in an environment
that's safe for them,
931
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,360
they rehydrate, they fix up all
the problems that they've had
932
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,200
and they carry on with their lives.
933
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,240
In fact, when they're
in this tun state,
934
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:46,720
they become so light
and so shrivelled up
935
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:50,160
that they become able to travel
vast distances by air
936
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,240
- so they can be blown away.
- Yes.
937
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:54,680
And that's why we find tardigrades
in lots and lots and lots
938
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,200
of different environments.
939
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,200
Maybe we could find them
in space one day
940
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,160
- just because they've blown up there.
- Yeah! Wow.
941
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,960
So, yeah, a fascinating world
going on around us
942
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,440
- that we're just not even aware of.
- Mm-hm.
943
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,440
Well, thank you so much,
Chris and Srishti.
944
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,680
But now what I'd like to do is
introduce another type of creature.
945
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,560
Ooh!
946
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,840
DR ADERIN-POCOCK LAUGHS
947
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,600
So, hello. Who is this?
Who am I addressing?
948
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,240
- Samara.
- Samara.
949
00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:21,560
And so tell me a bit more
about Samara.
950
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,360
- And can I hold her?
- Yes, of course.
- Oh, gosh.
951
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,600
She's a nine-year-old
albino Burmese python.
952
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,040
She's weighing in about,
coming under seven stone.
953
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,720
Seven stone? Oh, my goodness.
954
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:36,040
- And just under 17 foot.
- 17 foot. OK. Which is why...
955
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,600
You've got about three foot,
we've got the rest of it.
956
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,040
OK. Lovely. Yes!
957
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,240
Fantastic.
958
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:43,160
And so... Wow, she's lively!
959
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,160
- She's warm.
- She's warm. Yes.
960
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,160
OK. Sorry, sorry!
961
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,640
Um, OK.
962
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,440
AUDIENCE LAUGHS
963
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,160
OK. Can you tell me more about her?
964
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,240
And, oh, she has adaptations.
965
00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:59,360
She isn't trying to eat me, right?
966
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,680
- No. Absolutely not. She's just
giving you a lovely cuddle.
- Aw.
967
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,520
- I can uncurl her if you want me to?
- Oh, no.
968
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,440
No, no, I think I'm quite happy.
969
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,480
Yes, so tell me a bit more about her
and her adaptations.
970
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,720
Well, she's, they see a lot
in infrared.
971
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:17,440
- OK, lovely.
- Small amounts of infrared.
972
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,720
So, like, in the audience,
for example, there's lots of
973
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:23,480
red dots everywhere. That's what
she's detecting as food or prey.
974
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,960
OK. Don't worry, don't worry.
975
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,920
Detecting that, which she uses
with the pits in the nose,
976
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,720
which are all the little
sensors there.
977
00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:32,440
- So eyesight is not 100%.
- Ah, yes.
978
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,160
- They more rely on the
heat signatures.
- Oh, lovely.
979
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,960
So, yeah, infrared energy
is heat energy,
980
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,760
- and she can detect those?
- Yes.
981
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,240
And any other adaptations?
982
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,240
SHE LAUGHS
983
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:44,520
- She's very good at holding
on to you.
- I know!
984
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,240
I do like a hug.
985
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:50,040
They certainly rely on the safety of
being able to hold on to something
986
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,360
- so they don't fall on the floor
or fall off a tree.
- Yes.
987
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,520
You know, they like to be relatively
high up because they feel safer.
988
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,560
Now, it's lovely to show you all
these different examples of life.
989
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,880
OK, I think I need to get
myself unwound.
990
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,800
And I think a round of applause
for our animal handlers.
991
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,480
APPLAUSE
992
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,560
So we are trying to search
for life out there -
993
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,280
but one of the things is,
we are finding planets
994
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,720
but what are the chances of life
actually emerging on another planet?
995
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:23,680
So one of the questions
we need to ask
996
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,400
is how did life start
right on this planet?
997
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,360
Now, to answer this question
and help me find out,
998
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,080
I'd like to invite
from the Natural History Museum
999
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,360
a cosmic mineralogist,
Professor Sara Russell.
1000
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,120
APPLAUSE
1001
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,040
Hi, Maggie.
1002
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,440
LOUD ALARM WAILS
1003
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,080
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
1004
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,200
OK, we weren't expecting that,
so please stay in your seats.
1005
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,960
We'd better go up here.
1006
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:52,560
LOUD BANG
1007
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:56,800
Ooh.
1008
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,200
So I think we can go
and investigate.
1009
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,840
So, Sara, I think this
is more your domain than mine.
1010
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,240
We've had a meteor strike
right here in the lecture theatre.
1011
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,240
I can't see the hole
where it came in from,
1012
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:12,280
but we'll worry about that later!
1013
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:17,080
So, yes, this is sort of
the RI meteorite.
1014
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,080
So I think what we're going to do
is going to lift it up
1015
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,600
- so we can explore.
- OK.
- But this is
what you spend your time doing.
1016
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,720
Absolutely. This is my day job.
I look at meteorites
1017
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:27,280
which are any
natural extraterrestrial rock
1018
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,680
that falls to the Earth
1019
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,720
and survives its fall
through the atmosphere.
1020
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:34,880
And, yeah, so meteorites can come
from anywhere,
1021
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,000
- but most of them come
from asteroids...
- OK.
1022
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,880
..and a few of them are from
the moon and a few are from Mars.
1023
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,920
So they can tell us about all sorts
of environments beyond Earth.
1024
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,920
- Lovely. So let's go in closer.
- Yes, OK. Great.
1025
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,440
- I don't know if any of yours
do this?
- Ooh! No.
1026
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,800
- You see, a flip top meteorite.
- Yes! They haven't had that upgrade!
1027
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,600
OK, so now I've got a few things
inside which I'm going to show you.
1028
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,240
- OK.
- Now, first of all,
I'm going to start with this.
1029
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:01,760
- Now, the label says silicates.
- Silicates.
1030
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,920
And to me it just looks like
a bit of sand.
1031
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,560
Yes. Well, silicates are
what nearly all rocks are made of,
1032
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,600
and so silicates make up most
of the Earth and also the moon.
1033
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,320
Also, most meteorites
are made of silicates.
1034
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,200
OK. So perfect. Let's see what else
I've got in here.
1035
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,000
OK. I wasn't expecting this. It says
iron, but this is just an iron bar.
1036
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,480
Have you found many
of these in meteorites?
1037
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,040
- I'm going to put that on the table.
- Right.
1038
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,360
None that look exactly
like an iron bar, I have to say -
1039
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,160
but iron, as well, is a very
common ingredient of meteorites.
1040
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,160
So on Earth, in its early history,
it melted,
1041
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,600
and all of the iron
and other heavy metals went down
1042
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,360
to form the Earth's core.
1043
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,360
And that melting and
differentiation process
1044
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,320
also happened on many asteroids,
1045
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,360
which means that sometimes we can
sample their iron-rich core -
1046
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,160
and that's exciting because we
can't actually dig down
1047
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,800
and reach our own Earth's core,
1048
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,360
but we can learn about what it's
made of by using meteorites.
1049
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,480
Lovely.
1050
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,960
I think we've got a few
other things in here as well.
1051
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,720
- And so I've got something here,
I think that's a glycine.
- OK.
1052
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:07,680
- And so these look like molecules.
- Yes, they are.
1053
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,520
On a bigger scale than usual.
1054
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,560
- Alanine.
- Alanine, yes.
1055
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,600
- Now, these are something familiar.
But what actually are they?
- Yes.
1056
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,040
So these are a very special kind
of molecule called amino acids.
1057
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,280
- OK, lovely.
- So again these have been
found in meteorites.
1058
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,000
So, yeah, not all meteorites,
1059
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,440
but a very unusual type of meteorite
called a carbonaceous chondrite
1060
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,080
can have a lot of organic material
in it.
1061
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,440
And so molecules like this,
1062
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,640
the amino acids are the building
blocks of proteins.
1063
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,240
We find all sorts of organic
material in meteorites
1064
00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:43,160
- that could be the building blocks
of biological systems.
- Lovely.
1065
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,280
So there is this theory
that life started out there,
1066
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,280
and it was actually seeded on Earth
by things like this - meteorites.
1067
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:54,320
Yes. That the ingredients
for life were in space
1068
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,200
and then came to Earth
where life could begin.
1069
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,200
Lovely.
OK, this is rather on a grand scale,
1070
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,520
- but I think there was a meteor
strike right here in the UK.
- Yes.
1071
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,040
- Not that long ago.
- Not that long ago.
1072
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,440
Yes. So this was in February 2021.
1073
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,320
This was in the middle
of the Covid lockdown,
1074
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,960
if any of you remember that,
1075
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,240
and on a clear night in February...
1076
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:16,840
There's a fireball there.
1077
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,360
..this massive fireball
was seen across the sky -
1078
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,680
and this was witnessed
by over a thousand people.
1079
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,200
So this image, what was...
1080
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,360
- So that's a camera?
- Yes.
1081
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,920
So this was a camera
that was actually designed
1082
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,800
to look for exactly
this kind of event.
1083
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,600
We have a network of cameras across
the UK looking up at the sky
1084
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,840
all the time,
looking for this sort of thing,
1085
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,800
because if we get observations
from several cameras,
1086
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,280
we can work out two things.
1087
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,640
- We can work out where this object
came from in space...
- OK.
1088
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,600
..and also, if it's going
to be a meteorite,
1089
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,560
we can work out where it's landed
so we can go and hunt for it.
1090
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,200
So I can understand
where it's landed,
1091
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,120
but you can actually
extrapolate backwards?
1092
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,680
- You can backtrack, exactly...
- Oh, my goodness.
1093
00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:59,880
..to see what its trajectory was.
1094
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,440
So this particular meteor originated
1095
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,440
in the outer part of the
asteroid belt, out towards Jupiter.
1096
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,640
Fantastic. OK, so this is sort of
professional footage
1097
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,160
with dedicated cameras,
1098
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,680
but I think there was footage
taken by other cameras, too.
1099
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,800
Yes, absolutely. So this was a
really widely seen event
1100
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,840
and several door cams, so these days
people have door cams...
1101
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,840
- If you look at the corner.
- Oh, yeah.
1102
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,360
They also caught
the meteor going, as well.
1103
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,320
- So we have a huge amount of data.
- Lovely.
1104
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,160
So you were saying you were sort of
using triangulation
1105
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,680
and sort of looking
at the trajectory.
1106
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,440
- So where did this one land?
- Yes.
1107
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,640
So we worked out that this one
was going to land in the Cotswolds.
1108
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,920
So it landed in a town called
Winchcombe, just outside Cheltenham.
1109
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,720
- Hence the name.
- OK, lovely.
1110
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:45,000
Meteorites are always named
after the place where they landed.
1111
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,240
And I was expecting some sort
of impact crater, I guess.
1112
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:51,000
- This is the result.
- This is the result.
1113
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,320
So I don't know if you can see
what we're looking at here,
1114
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:58,080
but the next morning,
the family opened their curtains,
1115
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,680
the Wilcock family, and they saw
this big splat in their driveway.
1116
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,120
THEY LAUGH
1117
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,120
And this is where the meteorite
had landed -
1118
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,800
and they very kindly donated both
the meteorite to our museum,
1119
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,440
the Natural History Museum,
but also their driveway, which is...
1120
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,000
- A section of their driveway?
- Yes.
1121
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,520
It's just like a metre squared
section of their driveway.
1122
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,440
Perfect. But, Sara,
before I say goodbye,
1123
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,440
- I just wanted to ask one question.
- Yes.
1124
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,720
Do you believe
that there's life out there?
1125
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:28,160
You know, Maggie, I'm pretty sure
there is life out there,
1126
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,120
because I think that meteorites
like Winchcombe
1127
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,600
are relatively common
throughout the solar system,
1128
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,320
and if they were impacting
the early Earth
1129
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,800
and bringing ingredients there, they
would have also been impacting Mars
1130
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,200
and other parts of the solar system,
as well.
1131
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,040
And so I think it's out there.
1132
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,040
OK, perfect.
Well, thank you very much.
1133
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,960
And a round of applause for Sara,
please.
1134
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,520
- Thank you.
- Thank you very much.
1135
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,320
APPLAUSE
1136
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,840
So we want to know if there's life
out there beyond the Earth -
1137
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,240
and what we've discovered
over the last 30 years
1138
00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:00,920
is that one of the best places
to look is at planets
1139
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,040
orbiting the distant stars
we see in the night sky.
1140
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,880
We call these exoplanets.
1141
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,720
To find out more, I'd like
to introduce my colleague
1142
00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:14,560
from the Sky At Night and planet
huntress, Dr George Dransfield.
1143
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,160
APPLAUSE
1144
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:24,680
So, George. You are... I called you
a sort of a planet huntress there.
1145
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,320
- Is that an official title?
- Yeah, absolutely.
1146
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,080
And this is what I do
for my day job.
1147
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,640
I search for new planets
outside the solar system
1148
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,600
orbiting any star
other than the sun.
1149
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,080
OK. When I was at university,
1150
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,720
we thought that there might be
exoplanets out there,
1151
00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:40,280
- but these stars are
trillions of kilometres away.
- Yeah.
1152
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,960
So how do we go about actually
trying to search for life
1153
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,440
on these exoplanets?
1154
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,800
So, I mean, one of the key
indicators that we have right now
1155
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,680
is trying to probe whether they have
an atmosphere or not,
1156
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,880
and if there are signs in that
atmosphere of biological activity
1157
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,640
- on the surface.
- OK. Lovely.
1158
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,800
So to actually explore this
a bit further,
1159
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,880
I want a bit of
audience participation.
1160
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,720
If you look under your seats
you will find a piece of card,
1161
00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:06,680
and on that piece of card
there is an exoplanet on board.
1162
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,960
So what I want you to do
is hold the exoplanet up,
1163
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,560
the picture of the exoplanet,
so it's facing outwards,
1164
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,040
but just have it up there
on your lap.
1165
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,640
OK. Oh, gosh, that's quite amazing
actually.
1166
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,480
We're just getting a wide array.
1167
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,320
Now, each one of these is a true
exoplanet. Is that not the case?
1168
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,000
Absolutely. This is a small subset
of the over 6,000 exoplanets
1169
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,480
that we've discovered so far -
1170
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,720
and I'm seeing some lovely
familiar names out there,
1171
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:30,520
some of my favourites in the room.
1172
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,520
You've got your exoplanet picture
in the front,
1173
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,640
but on the back I think
you can see a table.
1174
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,600
Now, what is this table telling us?
1175
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,720
So one of the things that we do
when we want to select planets
1176
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:43,640
to investigate and do a deep dive
and figure out
1177
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,720
if they could maybe host life,
1178
00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:49,040
is we look at an archive
of planets that we have,
1179
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,440
and we start to rule them out
based on certain parameters,
1180
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,720
certain characteristics
that we've measured for them.
1181
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:57,800
So we just try and say,
"OK, these ones, not a chance."
1182
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,720
We just rule them out immediately
and we don't waste telescope time
1183
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:02,840
- investigating them further.
- Yes.
1184
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,320
So now, you've all got,
you're holding up your exoplanet.
1185
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,000
What we're going to do
is we're going to start eliminating
1186
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,160
exoplanets where we don't think
life is likely to be.
1187
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,280
- So let's start
with our first parameter.
- Yeah.
1188
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,200
So here we have Star Type.
1189
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,400
That's the first one in your table.
So Star Type, what does that mean?
1190
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,760
So one of the ways that we can
classify stars
1191
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,920
is on a thing called
the spectral type.
1192
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,760
So the spectral type tells you stuff
like how big the star is
1193
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,240
and how hot the star is,
what it's made of, stuff like that -
1194
00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:33,520
and what I would never do
is search for life
1195
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,120
on a planet around
an O, a B or an A-type star.
1196
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,160
OK, so we've got O, B or A.
1197
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,120
So if you have O, B or A
as your star type,
1198
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,480
please put your card down
into your lap.
1199
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,640
You have been eliminated,
unfortunately.
1200
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,280
We think it's unlikely
that you'll find life there.
1201
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,960
OK, so I think that's all been done.
1202
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,600
So we've lost a few -
but not that many.
1203
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,800
Actually, we've still got a good,
healthy population
1204
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,840
- to continue the search for life.
- Yeah, absolutely.
1205
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,200
And the thing is, you know,
these stars,
1206
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,480
they're actually hard
to form planets around anyway.
1207
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,000
They're very, very young,
they're very hot,
1208
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,800
they wouldn't be a great
environment.
1209
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,640
So next we have Eccentricity.
What does that mean?
1210
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,120
So eccentricity tells us something
about the shape of the orbit
1211
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,600
- as the planet orbits its star.
- Lovely. OK.
1212
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,600
If your eccentricity
is greater than 0.7,
1213
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,440
then please put your cards down. OK?
1214
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,280
OK. We're seeing some going down.
1215
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,600
OK, we've still got quite
a healthy population.
1216
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,760
So why are we eliminating
these planets
1217
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,600
if their eccentricity
is greater than 0.7?
1218
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,280
So eccentricity, like I said before,
1219
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,480
it tells us something about
the shape of the orbit,
1220
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,040
and so we're thinking about
how squashed out,
1221
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,400
how elongated is the shape
of the orbit.
1222
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,840
So the value can be
from zero to one.
1223
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,720
If it's zero,
it means it's a perfect circle,
1224
00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:49,120
but the bigger the number,
the more stretched out it'll be -
1225
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,800
and what that means is that
sometimes the planet
1226
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,600
will be really close to its star,
1227
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,840
and sometimes it'll be
really far away.
1228
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,960
So you get huge variation
in temperature,
1229
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,680
which means that it's difficult
to get the stability you need
1230
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,960
for life, as we know it at least,
to develop.
1231
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,240
So let's see what we have next
on our criteria.
1232
00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:11,080
So now we have Planet Radius. OK.
1233
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,520
So this is quite simple.
1234
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,920
This is the size of the planet
compared to Earth.
1235
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,600
OK. Lovely. And so now,
we need to see the criteria. OK.
1236
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,040
So anything greater than
2.5 times the size of Earth.
1237
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,400
So anything two and a half times
bigger than Earth
1238
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,840
we're going to eliminate.
1239
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,480
So will you put your cards down
1240
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,800
if you're two and a half times
bigger than Earth?
1241
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,560
- OK. OK.
- So when we're thinking
about, again, life as we know it,
1242
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,160
we believe that life as we know it,
so far at least,
1243
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,000
requires liquid water. So we've got
to think, what are the chances
1244
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,440
of there being liquid water
on the surface of this planet?
1245
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,960
And so things that are bigger
than two and a half times the size
1246
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,480
of Earth, we think they're most
likely going to be gas dominated.
1247
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,440
And so we think that this is now
challenging
1248
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,040
- to host life as we know it.
- OK. Lovely.
1249
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,600
OK. So we've got one more criteria -
1250
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,880
and I must admit I don't
recognise this word - Insolation.
1251
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,360
Yes. So insolation
or insolation flux -
1252
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,320
and this tells us how much energy
the planet is receiving
1253
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,760
from its host star. Again,
we measure it compared to Earth.
1254
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,240
So let's have the criteria. Yeah.
1255
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:19,880
Yes. So the criteria
is less than 0.4
1256
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,000
or greater than 1.5.
1257
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,680
So if you're less than 0.4
or greater than 1.5,
1258
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,080
please put your cards down.
1259
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,040
OK. Oh, gosh. That was quite
a decimator, wasn't it?
1260
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,920
Yeah. That one knocked out a lot.
1261
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,760
- OK, lovely.
We still have a few left.
- Yeah.
1262
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,720
OK, so tell me a bit more
about this.
1263
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:39,640
So this is the amount of radiation
actually reaching the Earth?
1264
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,200
Yes, exactly. So we're looking now
at the kind of the nitty gritty.
1265
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,680
This is what's called the
optimistic habitable zone.
1266
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:51,120
So the habitable zone is this kind
of area that we define around a star
1267
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,240
that tells us whether it could be
the right temperature
1268
00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:57,000
on the surface of the planet
to have liquid water.
1269
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,280
So if your planet receives
1270
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,720
between 0.4 and 1.5 times
the insulation of Earth,
1271
00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:07,680
it means that you are
in the optimistic habitable zone
1272
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,000
of your star.
1273
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,240
So congratulations. You maybe have
some liquid water on the surface.
1274
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:16,120
But I do want to give
a shout out to a planet up here.
1275
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,160
- So this is another one...
- Why is this one special?
1276
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,480
This one is very special to me.
1277
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,880
It's called TOI-715 b.
1278
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,880
It's about 137 light years away -
1279
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,480
and the reason I love this one
1280
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,320
is it's because it's the first
habitable zone planet
1281
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:31,640
that I led the discovery of.
1282
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,640
- Oh, right!
- Yeah. So this one has my
name on the paper for the discovery.
1283
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,760
- So why isn't it George's Planet?
- Oh, I wish!
1284
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,480
But, no, we actually have a
convention for naming planets
1285
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,840
where it's the star name followed by
a lowercase letter, starting with b.
1286
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,720
But it's a lovely little thing.
1287
00:56:47,720 --> 00:56:49,840
It's about one and a half times
the size of Earth,
1288
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,280
and like I said,
137 light years away,
1289
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,120
which in astronomical terms
is really, really close.
1290
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,560
- So it's a great candidate to search
for life.
- Thank you, George -
1291
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,960
but before you go,
the question I keep on asking,
1292
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,160
do you believe
there's life out there?
1293
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,840
Oh, absolutely. I mean, one of
the things that kind of guides
1294
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,640
our understanding of the universe
is that the laws of physics
1295
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,120
apply the same
all over the universe,
1296
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,880
so there is nothing special
about this place and time,
1297
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,040
and therefore life must
have happened elsewhere.
1298
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,160
OK, fantastic.
1299
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,000
- I think around a round of applause
for our planet hunter.
- Thank you.
1300
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,480
APPLAUSE
1301
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,400
In the next lecture, we're going to
be exploring our own solar system,
1302
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,320
looking to see if there could be
life on the planets
1303
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,880
orbiting our local star - the sun.
1304
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,440
Now, we don't have a star to bring
in here into the lecture theatre,
1305
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,680
but we have the next best thing...
1306
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,720
BLOWTORCH HISSES
1307
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,640
..a traditional
Royal Institution demo
1308
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,880
created using burning phosphorus -
1309
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,600
and it's known as phosphorus sun.
1310
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,440
Let's stand back
and bask in its glow.
1311
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,680
Thank you very much.
1312
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,000
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1313
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,520
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