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This Episode 7 is traditional
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in the sense that we have
all our characters reuniting,
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sharing information,
and developing a plan,
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but it's a little less action-
and plot-heavy,
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and more emotional, I think,
than most of our episodes.
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It is this pivot point
towards the end game.
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And… now!
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Stay with me. All the way, Max.
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Finally, after having been
in this coma/trance
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all season long,
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Max awakens.
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I can't feel… much.
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Do you feel this?
Do you feel my hand?
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Right before this scene,
I remember Shawn calling, "Action,"
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and then the energy switched,
and changed,
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-and then I looked into Sadie's eyes.
-…eyes to Sadie, and…
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Action.
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Yeah, that's it!
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-Stay with me, Max.
-Yes.
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When we finished the scene,
everyone was quiet.
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The crew was quiet.
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Then, like,
Maya and Amy started crying,
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then Sadie started crying,
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then I started crying.
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-And, cut!
-Tail sticks.
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Everyone felt the presence of,
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I guess,
what we brought to the table.
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The whole time…
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I just needed you.
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Just you.
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With something like that, when
a scene is so beautifully written
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and the moment
is just as touching as that is,
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then it kind of makes my job easier
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to, like, really connect with Max,
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and when Caleb is giving such
an incredible performance, as well,
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I just felt very lucky
to be in that room.
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-Every now and then as an actor…
-Action!
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…a spell is cast in the room.
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And that day,
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the spell was cast,
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and I
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went home feeling so inspired.
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And cut.
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Very good.
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Holly has escaped Camazotz.
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So she wakes up in something
that we call the Pain Tree,
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and it's where Vecna, or Henry,
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is keeping
all of his kidnapped children.
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As far as the Pain Tree goes,
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we wanted to design something
that had these really
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sort of arachnid characteristics
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and then also something
that looked like Vecna.
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You know, it's, like,
an extension of him.
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The sculptural base of it all
is a foam,
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and then that's when
our scenic department comes in,
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and just experimented endlessly
with all these different materials,
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layering them, and then, like,
stretching them and pulling them.
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There's so many different layers
that went into that.
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The level of detail
and the talent that goes into all of it
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is just mind-boggling.
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Any set that's, like, that big,
you want to be able to walk onto it,
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and feel like you own the space.
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It was nice to just feel,
"Okay, this is my home."
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"This is where I'm residing."
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We've always assumed
the Upside Down
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is another dimension
opened by Brenner,
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but it turns out it's actually
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a bridge.
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That's like classic Dustin.
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So that was like when
that felt really fun to jump into,
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and Dustin's had a few of those, like,
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expository science-y monologues
over the course of the show.
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And so it felt like home
getting to do stuff like that.
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This wormhole connects
Hawkins to here,
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another world
that I've coined "The Abyss."
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I remember, it was part of the way
through season one that Netflix
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asked us for, like,
a mythology document,
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and we explained exactly what
the Upside Down was,
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and why it was frozen in time
and all this,
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and we wanted to keep the mystery,
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but this being our final season,
we said we should just
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have our characters
figure out exactly what this place is.
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Okay, this flashlight is the Squawk
radio tower, and this Slinky…
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is the Bridge.
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When you have a friend
as smart as Dustin Henderson
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you're always kind of
a little behind the ball
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so you're always playing catch-up.
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Wham. VoilĂ .
You've got a beanstalk.
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Usually, I'm sorta trying
to figure out the plan
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that's being delivered to me,
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rather than, you know,
delivering the plan.
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-I like it.
-It's not totally insane.
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That's a very important moment,
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because I think Steve never
really believes he's very smart.
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And I don't think that's true.
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And to be able to have
a big moment of strength there,
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where it's kind just like,
"Holy shit, he did it,"
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is really needed
and earned on his part, and
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I think it's a good moment for Joe.
He is so talented.
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I think he had fun doing it,
and I loved watching him do it.
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The Abyss, the Demos,
the Mind Flayer, all of it, gone.
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Game, set, match.
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Great. And just a slight
push-in, please, because why not?
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In my face.
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Okay, and split the difference
on this one, please.
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I remember having a blast that day.
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It felt light-hearted.
It felt fun, 'cause it was
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energetic, and the flow
was really great.
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That was a really fun scene to shoot,
just working with everybody.
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Honestly, the vibe
was a really fun set.
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Seeing it all meld together
and watching these personalities
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and suddenly really realizing
what a good job
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Matt and Ross did with the casting
of all those individuals,
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that was the funnest day
I think I may ever have had on a set.
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Have you thought about it,
what it all means?
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I'm really trying to convince her
that this is more important
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than her friends, than Mike,
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than the life that she has.
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Because if she doesn't do it,
they will all die.
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So we kill her.
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She replaced Papa.
Another will replace her.
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This situation just keeps
getting reinvented, you know?
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If it's not Papa, it's Kay.
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There's always going to be
somebody chasing,
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trying to use them
for their own nefarious reasons.
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Don't you see, Jane? It's a cycle.
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These babies
are deadlier than they look.
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You sure?
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My character's struggle
for the season
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is feeling like his friend
is kind of closed off, and shut off,
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and maybe acting rashly out of,
like, an emotionally insecure place.
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You know, him giving me
the Eddie spear and shield
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is kind of like calling a truce
and waving the white flag
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and gives my character
a moment of pause,
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which kind of brings upon
an apology
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for maybe how things
sort of have been dealt with.
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I miss my best friend.
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Yeah, I miss my best friend too.
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And action!
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Ready!
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And…
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God, I hope BTS is somewhere…
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Ready! And action!
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Action, Noah.
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Earlier today, when…
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Noah has gotten older
in this season,
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and to see him grow as an actor
has been really great.
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And so I had him try on a few things,
and we knew we wanted the collar
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to feel like the collar
from the first season,
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when we meet him in his little,
like, tan and orange vest.
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We just felt like
the color tones all worked together,
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and Noah felt really happy.
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And that's ultimately
what I want the actors to feel.
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You know, to feel
like their character,
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to feel comfortable, to feel ready
to, like, take on the world.
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Wait.
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I think you need to hear this too.
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Everyone does.
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Will and his coming-out scene
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was something
that we've been building to
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for a very long time.
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I am. I am different.
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It's important
that he comes to terms with this,
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and once he's able to do that,
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he's heading into this final battle
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with a confidence and maturity
that he hasn't had before.
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I… I don't like girls.
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From Season 1,
if you look in the lookbook,
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it says like, he, you know,
felt different, and is "queer," and…
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It's always been there.
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But the Duffers really took their time
with that storyline and that arc,
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and didn't rush it,
and didn't push it in your face.
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And that's what makes it so real,
because it's like…
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That's not his whole story.
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There's the struggles
of his dad who left the home,
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and the mom who's a drunk,
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and the traumas
of being stuck in the Upside Down,
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and his friends who are growing up
faster than he is.
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And there's so many layers.
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It makes it so real and authentic,
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and I just… I love it so much,
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because they wrote
such a great, beautiful character.
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I read it every morning, every night,
for the month leading up to it,
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and then that allowed me,
on the day,
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to just… to completely forget
about the script,
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completely forget
about remembering my lines,
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and that just kind of poured out
of me, and what I could focus on
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is just tapping into that feeling
and that emotion,
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and the words will spill out
on top of that feeling.
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It just felt so real.
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It felt so real.
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Will…
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Noah blew me away,
you know, this season.
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He had a lot to do,
and it was beautiful work.
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it was incredible to witness.
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And it was done.
And everyone was clapping,
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which I've never experienced before
on the set.
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Like, the whole cast
got up and clapped for me,
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and I felt pretty good about myself.
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And it was a really special moment
that I'll never forget.
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And I'm so glad that I had
the whole cast there to watch me
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and support me,
and experience it with me.
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Most of them found out about me
personally in, like, news headlines,
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and I always felt like
I missed out on that chance
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to really, like,
sit them down and tell them.
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And now… It did really help me,
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like, I do feel a lot more comfortable
in that part of me with them,
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because of that scene, so…
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Showtime, Snookums!
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Mellon.
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Murray has, like,
a lot of incredible action moments
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in this season.
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Let's see how you like this!
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I hope it's an appetizer for a massive
action-hero career to come
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where I keep surprising everybody.
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Now comes the fun part!
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-Still shooting.
-Ah, stop that!
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This is Matt.
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The stakes feel pretty high.
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We're, like, in action mode.
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The question was always,
"How're they going to end this?"
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I never speculated,
even in my own brain,
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because the Duffers
always surprise us
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no matter what you think
it's gonna be.
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At the end of the episode
there's a sense of dread,
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or uncertainty, that pervades
specifically related to Eleven.
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There's a look and a moment
between her and Kali
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where it seems as though Eleven
has agreed to Kali's plan,
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to stay in the Upside Down
when it explodes,
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so even if they are to succeed,
there's a big question mark there
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in terms of
what's going to happen to Eleven.17372
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