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I think what's most exciting
for me
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is getting to watch Will grow,
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and see him
just come out of his shell.
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Because, throughout
the whole story,
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Will has been so shy,
so fearful
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and not able
to stand up for himself.
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And you really just want
to see him, like, fight back.
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And the big mid-season finale
finally paid off.
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Three, two, one, go!
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Hey. Hey. Derek.
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Derek is very confused.
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He thinks
some evil child kidnappers
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have kidnapped him.
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But they're really just trying
to lure out the Demogorgons
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so they can defeat them
and get led straight to Vecna.
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This is where I start
to become… bait.
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Even though Derek tries to run,
he tries to escape,
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he gets scared out of his boots
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'cause he hears
the banging on the door.
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And then Joyce takes a big…
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Stay back!
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In the script, it was
a kind of bad-word axe.
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You want him? You're gonna have
to come through me!
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And she swings at the Demo,
scares him off,
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and ultimately Steve comes
and hits him with the car.
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Oh my God!
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Slow down! Jesus Christ!
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Jesus!
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Joe is one of those that
can get in there and drive though.
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He's one of our actors
that is very good at driving.
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Yeah, I do a lot of driving.
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I showed up for the first season,
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and they said,
"You can drive a stick, right?"
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And luckily, I could drive a stick.
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And I've been sort of driving
this car ever since.
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We've done some practical.
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We've done a lot on the volume
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and capture with blue screens,
but always fun.
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And it runs into the silo
and into the Upside Down.
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Jesus Christ!
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And what a great group.
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The four of us in that car,
there's never a dull moment.
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It's fun and good energy.
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Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God.
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And, cut.
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Welcome.
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Because Holly and Max have
a very loose connection
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through Mike,
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Max is able
to see Holly as her ticket out.
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I have a plan.
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A plan to get us out of here.
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And it's gonna take time.
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More time than we have now.
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That was
a fun scene to shoot
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because it was really fun
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to see how the arts department
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just really turned it into
this weird home for Max
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that was just this collection of
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things that she found
in her exploring
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through the memories.
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So, yeah, the cave is one
of my favorite sets
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to film on this year.
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If you want to escape Camazotz,
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this is the only way.
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Tell me what I need to do.
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You trying to give your old man
a heart attack? Nice job.
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El heard a kryptonite sound
coming from within the base,
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so she knows
there's someone powerful there,
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and the assumption is
that it's Vecna,
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so they've gotta go
into the lion's den.
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I'm toying with Hopper,
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and he's being strangled
slowly to death,
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and that's when Eleven
comes out, as weak as she is,
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to try to protect him.
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And then that leads
into a big fight scene,
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and I got tossed around
for a whole day.
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You know, but it's
business as usual for these guys.
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It was huge.
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And great fun, great fun.
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Scissors.
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It was epic.
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Linda just brought kind of like
this feminine energy
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that is so strong
and inspirational and motivating.
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Oh, you're strong, Linda!
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Yes. I hope I don't hurt you.
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No, it's all right. I love it.
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I just feel like when she steps
onto set,
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I want to work
as hard as she does
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to meet her,
and she just pushes me.
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-Cut.
-Cut!
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What are you doing?
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You gotta go.
You gotta go. Come on.
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It's a powerful moment because…
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You're gonna find
Nancy and the others.
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Whoa. Hey.
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What is that?
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It's just a failsafe, okay?
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-A failsafe.
-No.
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It's the ultimate betrayal.
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Hopper was planning
on leaving her.
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It's hard.
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I am so proud of you.
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I am so proud
of what you've overcome,
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I'm proud of who you are.
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No!
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I think the biggest challenge
for him is
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having to live with
this toxically masculine heroism
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that contains deep love
but also deep betrayal
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of the people that love him.
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But he sees it
as his only answer, I think.
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And I think that's…
what ultimately makes it beautiful,
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but it winds up straining
a lot of relationships
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as well when people find out
about it,
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and he has a lot of guilt
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about what he's doing,
but he has to do it.
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At the end,
they finally reach the door
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where they believe
Vecna is behind,
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but they learn that
it's not Vecna
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but in fact Kali
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who I think probably nobody is
expecting to be behind that door.
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And of course, when we reveal
that Kali is there and Vecna is not,
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the twist, of course,
is that he's coming into Hawkins.
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Welcome to our battle zone here.
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We have a lot to talk through
and show you around.
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The MAC-Z is absolutely one
of the most hectic, chaotic,
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crazy, and rewarding sequences
I've ever shot.
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There's dozens of stunt people,
close to 100 extras,
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there's Demogorgons,
there's monsters,
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and fire and explosions
and giant chase sequences.
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-Go!
-Come on, guys!
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So, behind me you can see
a bunch of cranes with wires.
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We're setting up for the battle.
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Those cranes are for the stunts
'cause they're connected to wires.
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And they get pulled and thrown,
and it's pretty cool watching it.
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Three, two, one, go!
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We took the most time prepping it.
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We had a total of 50 kills
in that sequence.
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There's a lot of stunt folks
that were working.
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I had 56 amazing stunt folks
that came out
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and just thrashed themselves
for us.
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Thank you, guys.
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The Radio Shack.
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If we move quick, we can make it.
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Get into the tunnels
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and get the hell out of here, okay?
Eyes on me.
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When I read the MAC-Z fight,
I was like, oh man.
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It says "Mike leads the kids
through a battlefield," basically.
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And I was like, oh man,
I should probably start running
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'cause I've never done
that kind of work before.
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It was pretty amazing
to be someone
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who's like the protector
and trying to get these kids out
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without getting hurt.
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It felt kinda nice and full circle.
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It's almost
like protecting your younger self.
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So, that was pretty cool.
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All right, cut.
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So this is the rift
to the Upside Down.
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As you can see, it's huge.
There's blue screen behind there,
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so they're gonna add in
a whole layer of rift
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and vines and slime,
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and that's
where Vecna will walk through.
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I love that scene.
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It's really the first time
we see new Vecna in this season.
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He comes out of this big gate
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and just starts causing
utter mayhem.
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I mean, we're throwing people
against walls.
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I think somebody gets set
on fire at some point.
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I pull some pins out
of someone's grenade
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and chuck them
against a big gas tank.
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I spin a Humvee over
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to find Winona
who faces off against me.
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Stay away from him!
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I just chuck her to one side,
and it's really enjoyable.
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I loved it.
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His body, thanks to Nancy,
is completely ravaged
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at the end of Season 4.
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The film Hellraiser has always
been a major influence on Vecna
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and his character and his design.
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Specifically Pinhead,
where you have a monster
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or a body
being rebuilt supernaturally.
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So, he is able to rebuild
his body bigger and badder.
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We are in the BGFX lair.
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We are testing Vecna 2.0.
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We called him Vecna 2.0.
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His body was increased in size.
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We had lots of negative space
on the body as well
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so you could see
through these vines and shapes.
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This is something
we would not be able to achieve
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with practical makeup effects,
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so we fell on this middle ground
where we did head and shoulders
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on Jamie.
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And we had
a Lycra skintight catsuit,
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made for Jamie,
covered in tracking markers
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for visual effects.
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From the top of the chest down,
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all of his body would be
augmented and created digitally.
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With the aspect of him
being less human,
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we also wanted to push
the envelope
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with his sort of weaponized arm.
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So, the left hand
that he used so much in Season 4,
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we wanted to take that
up a notch.
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It can expand
and flex and change form
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in a way that is new this season.
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We knew we wanted a big moment
at the end of Volume 1,
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and we've always known
that Will
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has a connection
to Vecna and the Upside Down.
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And so one of the earliest ideas
of this season is,
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what if Will was able
to harness these feelings
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and these powers and turn them
against our villains?
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I was like, they're going
to do something truly insane,
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and they did.
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I was like, oh yes.
It's happening. This is real.
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I think that that's going
to be a huge twist
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that changes the chemistry
of the show as a whole.
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Having that moment
in that set was incredible.
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It felt like an action movie,
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getting to stand there
with the fire around me
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and all the bodies dead,
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and I was the only one standing
and boom!
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His powers are crazy.
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Like, that's insane.
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Stranger Things 5 is more cinematic
in scale than any season before,
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but I'm also happy to say
that the emotional center
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remains the same.
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That it's always anchored
in these characters that we love.
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There is a lot that Will
has been dealing with,
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so it's not just about him
becoming this sort of superhero.
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We wanted him to grow
as a human
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and become
a fully formed version of who he is
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and truly accept who he is.
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Once he's able to do that,
he's able to harness these powers.
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It was pure joy
and excitement filming that stuff
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because, oh my God,
like I feel like any actor
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dreams of getting
a moment like that.
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It was like, I mean, honestly,
one of like highlights of my career.
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Ready, and kill!
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There's such joy
that I felt that night.
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Oh, like, it was amazing.17182
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