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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,740 Previously on The Hack. 2 00:00:08,791 --> 00:00:10,913 So Nick Davies and The Guardian 3 00:00:10,938 --> 00:00:13,519 are losing the exclusive but winning the war. 4 00:00:13,544 --> 00:00:16,938 Alan Rusbridger and The Guardian have been in touch with us at Panorama. 5 00:00:16,978 --> 00:00:19,181 It's the hacking stuff, but there's also this story 6 00:00:19,206 --> 00:00:21,146 on Jonathan Rees that they've been pushing. 7 00:00:21,246 --> 00:00:24,626 We found invoices on his desk. Rees to Alex Marunchak. 8 00:00:24,726 --> 00:00:27,506 At The News of the World while Andy Coulson was the editor. 9 00:00:27,606 --> 00:00:30,706 There was a name that appeared in the top corner of Glenn's notes. 10 00:00:30,806 --> 00:00:32,747 - Ian Edmondson. - Ian Edmondson? 11 00:00:32,847 --> 00:00:34,787 He reported directly to Coulson. 12 00:00:34,900 --> 00:00:37,560 Someone I want you to meet. David Cook. Gordon Brown. 13 00:00:37,653 --> 00:00:39,993 I'm interested in hearing more about what's happened to you. 14 00:00:40,087 --> 00:00:42,687 I, uh... I think I might be able to help. 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,300 I, uh... 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,500 - I hear you're a fan of walking. - I am. 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,980 Do you have a favourite spot? 18 00:01:07,086 --> 00:01:09,026 Hill walking in Arran, sir. 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,120 You don't need to call me sir. 20 00:01:12,297 --> 00:01:13,607 Policeman's habit. 21 00:01:14,577 --> 00:01:16,047 Well, I like Arran. 22 00:01:16,338 --> 00:01:19,002 Particularly, and, uh, and this might point 23 00:01:19,027 --> 00:01:21,238 to a certain masochistic quality on my part, 24 00:01:21,338 --> 00:01:23,998 - particularly in the winter time. - Well, it's the colours, 25 00:01:24,098 --> 00:01:26,038 Arran in the winter. 26 00:01:26,138 --> 00:01:28,158 Well, we shall have to go. 27 00:01:28,258 --> 00:01:30,518 You can show me the route. 28 00:01:30,637 --> 00:01:33,657 Oh, you're making me quite homesick. 29 00:01:33,738 --> 00:01:34,838 Well, surely you can get up there 30 00:01:34,938 --> 00:01:37,039 - more often now you're not... - Now that I don't have a job? 31 00:01:37,139 --> 00:01:39,759 No, I didn't mean... 32 00:01:39,859 --> 00:01:41,287 I should be able to, shouldn't I? 33 00:01:41,312 --> 00:01:43,672 And yet I keep being dragged back to London. 34 00:01:45,059 --> 00:01:49,410 Glen has told me something about what happened to you. 35 00:01:49,907 --> 00:01:52,839 - Your story. - Okay. 36 00:01:52,864 --> 00:01:58,085 The intrusion, the surveillance, the meeting with Rebekah Brooks. 37 00:01:58,650 --> 00:02:00,560 It sounds a merry mess. 38 00:02:00,943 --> 00:02:04,000 Yeah, well, look, I made mistakes I shouldn't have. 39 00:02:04,100 --> 00:02:06,500 Well, we all do. 40 00:02:07,713 --> 00:02:09,017 We all do. 41 00:02:09,980 --> 00:02:12,160 My father was a minister, 42 00:02:12,260 --> 00:02:14,920 as I think you know, in the Church of Scotland, 43 00:02:15,020 --> 00:02:16,547 he would... 44 00:02:16,941 --> 00:02:19,501 He would hear everyone's stories. 45 00:02:21,101 --> 00:02:23,481 It's a great failing on my part that I don't have the time 46 00:02:23,581 --> 00:02:24,601 nor the patience that he does. 47 00:02:24,701 --> 00:02:26,921 So, I think it's my responsibility 48 00:02:27,021 --> 00:02:30,801 to tell you why your cruel and unusual story matter to me. 49 00:02:30,901 --> 00:02:33,181 It's because... 50 00:02:34,781 --> 00:02:37,682 It's because I think this country has become polluted, 51 00:02:37,782 --> 00:02:39,042 and I think that we could all... 52 00:02:39,142 --> 00:02:42,342 should all try to do something about it, don't you? 53 00:02:45,302 --> 00:02:48,042 You've read the pieces in The Guardian, about the hacking. 54 00:02:48,142 --> 00:02:49,930 Yeah, Nick's a friend of mine. 55 00:02:49,955 --> 00:02:51,122 Did you read the pieces 56 00:02:51,222 --> 00:02:52,922 - in The New York Times, too? - I did. 57 00:02:53,022 --> 00:02:54,362 And you know the work that Glen is doing 58 00:02:54,462 --> 00:02:56,462 - at Panorama? - Yeah. 59 00:02:58,343 --> 00:03:01,763 Rupert Murdoch is trying to take control of BSkyB. 60 00:03:01,863 --> 00:03:04,403 If he does that, it's a valuable organization, 61 00:03:04,503 --> 00:03:07,243 and he will leverage the value of it to accumulate the debt 62 00:03:07,343 --> 00:03:09,723 needed to buy a huge multinational company, 63 00:03:09,823 --> 00:03:13,323 perhaps Disney or Time Warner. 64 00:03:13,423 --> 00:03:17,784 He'll have control of our media landscape and a good hold of America. 65 00:03:20,064 --> 00:03:23,124 - He needs to be stopped. - I agree. 66 00:03:23,224 --> 00:03:26,704 I will tell you my stories and you will tell me yours. 67 00:03:27,704 --> 00:03:29,484 And then perhaps David, 68 00:03:29,584 --> 00:03:31,244 perhaps we can work out how to help each other. 69 00:03:31,344 --> 00:03:33,344 What do you say? 70 00:03:34,504 --> 00:03:36,504 What do you want me to say? 71 00:03:49,785 --> 00:03:52,425 ♪ How lucky can one guy be ♪ 72 00:03:53,625 --> 00:03:56,485 ♪ I kissed her and she kissed me ♪ 73 00:03:56,585 --> 00:04:01,866 ♪ Like the sailor said, quote ♪ ♪ "Ain't that a hole in a boat?" ♪ 74 00:04:02,946 --> 00:04:04,206 Into the shark's cage. 75 00:04:04,306 --> 00:04:07,486 I don't think they'll be providing us with cages tonight. 76 00:04:07,586 --> 00:04:09,526 - You're late. - Who the hell thought press awards 77 00:04:09,633 --> 00:04:10,613 were a good idea? 78 00:04:10,706 --> 00:04:14,246 A narcissist who realised it's an industry full of narcissists 79 00:04:14,346 --> 00:04:15,446 who pay to be rewarded 80 00:04:15,546 --> 00:04:17,546 - for the narcissism. - I can't be here. 81 00:04:18,667 --> 00:04:22,047 Look over there. News of the World. 82 00:04:22,147 --> 00:04:24,007 You know they actually have members of staff 83 00:04:24,107 --> 00:04:26,887 under arrest and many more being investigated. 84 00:04:26,987 --> 00:04:28,967 The brass neck on them is ridiculous. 85 00:04:29,067 --> 00:04:31,247 So the least I can attempt is some neck? 86 00:04:31,347 --> 00:04:33,607 No. I just want you here. 87 00:04:33,707 --> 00:04:35,727 You think we're going to win something. You're mad. 88 00:04:35,827 --> 00:04:38,007 - Everyone here hates us. - I want you here 89 00:04:38,107 --> 00:04:42,088 because I want us to lose with dignity together. 90 00:04:42,707 --> 00:04:44,408 I've missed you. 91 00:04:44,508 --> 00:04:46,448 I feel itchy. I hate this shirt. 92 00:04:46,548 --> 00:04:47,688 Well, it makes you look 93 00:04:47,788 --> 00:04:49,728 - extremely handsome. - Oh, well. 94 00:04:49,828 --> 00:04:52,728 Now I have to go and play nice with some rich board members. 95 00:04:52,828 --> 00:04:55,688 But please remember, these people, 96 00:04:55,788 --> 00:04:57,688 they're more frightened of you than you are of them. 97 00:04:57,788 --> 00:04:59,989 There's a difference between hate and fear. 98 00:05:04,829 --> 00:05:11,829 ♪ Tell me quick, ♪ ♪ ain't love a kick in the head ♪ 99 00:05:18,229 --> 00:05:20,690 Ladies and gentlemen, your attention, please. 100 00:05:20,790 --> 00:05:23,210 Before our awards start this evening, 101 00:05:23,310 --> 00:05:27,430 we have a special update from journalist Nick Davies. 102 00:05:28,750 --> 00:05:30,690 On Wednesday, 26th of January, 103 00:05:30,790 --> 00:05:34,290 News International passed Scotland Yard three email messages 104 00:05:34,390 --> 00:05:36,210 which they claimed to have "only just discovered" 105 00:05:36,310 --> 00:05:38,050 in Ian Edmondson's computer. 106 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:40,331 And Ian Edmondson was sacked. 107 00:05:40,431 --> 00:05:42,691 Once in receipt of these emails, 108 00:05:42,791 --> 00:05:45,891 Scotland Yard announced a new inquiry, 109 00:05:45,991 --> 00:05:49,291 Operation Weeting, under the command of Sue Akers. 110 00:05:49,391 --> 00:05:51,771 I dismissed Weeting as a PR move 111 00:05:51,871 --> 00:05:54,051 by the Met until on the 9th of February 112 00:05:54,151 --> 00:05:56,491 they released a statement. 113 00:05:56,591 --> 00:06:01,212 The new evidence recently provided by News International 114 00:06:01,312 --> 00:06:04,852 is being considered alongside material 115 00:06:04,952 --> 00:06:08,692 already in the Metropolitan Police Service's possession. 116 00:06:08,792 --> 00:06:11,932 It couldn't be. They weren't finally going to investigate 117 00:06:12,032 --> 00:06:14,372 the last four years of their incompetence. 118 00:06:14,472 --> 00:06:16,452 All actions and decisions 119 00:06:16,552 --> 00:06:20,413 by the previous investigation are being reviewed. 120 00:06:20,940 --> 00:06:24,260 Or were they? Were we winning? Finally? 121 00:06:25,513 --> 00:06:27,013 I certainly didn't feel like a winner. 122 00:06:27,119 --> 00:06:28,219 ...show business, shall we? 123 00:06:28,313 --> 00:06:31,893 And the award for showbiz reporter of the year goes to... 124 00:06:31,993 --> 00:06:34,933 It's Stephen Moyes of The News of the World. 125 00:06:35,033 --> 00:06:36,693 Congratulations, Stephen. 126 00:06:36,793 --> 00:06:40,373 Okay, and the award for news reporter of the year goes to... 127 00:06:40,473 --> 00:06:44,314 It's the fake Sheikh, Mazher Mahmood, from The News of the World. 128 00:06:46,234 --> 00:06:47,854 The Scoop of the Year now. 129 00:06:47,954 --> 00:06:51,094 The Scoop of the year is awarded to The News of the World 130 00:06:51,194 --> 00:06:54,574 for its excellent coverage of the cricket corruption scandal. 131 00:06:54,674 --> 00:06:57,654 And the award goes to The News of the World. 132 00:06:57,754 --> 00:07:00,214 The News of the World! 133 00:07:00,314 --> 00:07:02,335 Okay, the moment we've all been waiting for. 134 00:07:02,435 --> 00:07:04,975 It's the big one, the Newspaper of the Year. 135 00:07:05,075 --> 00:07:07,455 Now, the Newspaper of the Year goes to, 136 00:07:07,555 --> 00:07:09,335 for what the judges say is a paper 137 00:07:09,447 --> 00:07:12,867 completely unafraid to take on the powers that be. 138 00:07:12,955 --> 00:07:16,455 So, the newspaper of the year award goes to... 139 00:07:16,555 --> 00:07:18,015 The Guardian. 140 00:07:36,876 --> 00:07:39,016 - Jackie Hames? - Yes. 141 00:07:39,116 --> 00:07:42,597 Hello, my name is DS Slater, and this is DC Grossman. 142 00:07:43,637 --> 00:07:46,697 - Is it David? - David Cook? No. 143 00:07:46,797 --> 00:07:50,897 Uh, No. Well, I suppose, um, in a way, yes. 144 00:07:50,997 --> 00:07:55,057 We are here investigating. We're part of a new operation. 145 00:07:55,157 --> 00:07:57,097 Operation Weeting, 146 00:07:57,197 --> 00:08:00,977 we're investigating allegations of phone hacking. 147 00:08:01,077 --> 00:08:03,018 Do you work for John Yates? 148 00:08:03,118 --> 00:08:06,058 No, we're part of the Special Crime Directorate, 149 00:08:06,158 --> 00:08:09,438 under the command of Deputy Assistant Commissioner Akers. 150 00:08:13,558 --> 00:08:15,138 Great. Thank you. 151 00:08:15,238 --> 00:08:18,418 You were found in the notebooks of Glenn Mulcaire. 152 00:08:18,518 --> 00:08:20,518 This doesn't surprise me. 153 00:08:21,598 --> 00:08:23,859 We'd like you to take a look at these details. 154 00:08:23,959 --> 00:08:26,219 Is this your police payroll 155 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:28,539 - and warrant numbers? - Yes. 156 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:31,939 How did he have these? 157 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:33,939 That's where I lived in 1977. 158 00:08:34,039 --> 00:08:35,579 And is this where you worked in 2002? 159 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,899 - Yes. Yeah. - And this phone number, this is... 160 00:08:37,999 --> 00:08:39,999 This is correct. Yeah. 161 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:43,180 There's information here 162 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,860 that could only have come from my police personnel file. 163 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,160 Yeah, we, um, that's what we think. 164 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,780 Someone within the Met sold him my information, 165 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,840 - David's information. - It's um... 166 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,601 It's possible. 167 00:09:06,281 --> 00:09:08,581 - When was this known? - I'm sorry? 168 00:09:08,681 --> 00:09:11,721 When did the Metropolitan Police have this information? 169 00:09:13,801 --> 00:09:16,521 A notebook was taken from Mulcaire in 2006. 170 00:09:21,761 --> 00:09:24,142 - 2006? - Yeah. 171 00:09:24,242 --> 00:09:28,142 And the Met chose neither to inform me nor investigate 172 00:09:28,242 --> 00:09:32,022 this "possible" corruption. 173 00:09:32,122 --> 00:09:36,482 Well, that's what we're trying to do now, ma'am. 174 00:09:51,351 --> 00:09:52,931 - Glen Campbell. - Nick Davies. 175 00:09:53,031 --> 00:09:55,031 - Hi. - Honour and a privilege. 176 00:09:57,311 --> 00:09:59,651 I hear that you're not well liked at Panorama. 177 00:09:59,751 --> 00:10:02,160 I hear you're adored at The Guardian. 178 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,340 So, who do you usually meet here? 179 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,820 This is where you meet criminals or politicians? 180 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,460 I float between cafes and pubs like a butterfly at a festival. 181 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:11,621 I liked the Panorama 182 00:10:11,721 --> 00:10:13,821 - on Alex Marunchak. - It wasn't one of mine. 183 00:10:13,921 --> 00:10:15,941 You helped. A lot. It was good. 184 00:10:16,041 --> 00:10:19,261 You've got some particularly great hits in on Jonathan Rees. 185 00:10:19,361 --> 00:10:21,381 And I'd liked your piece on him too. 186 00:10:21,481 --> 00:10:23,981 Mr A. Very good. 187 00:10:24,081 --> 00:10:26,121 - Are you writing more? - No. 188 00:10:27,481 --> 00:10:29,501 I'm... didn't Dave say? I'm out. 189 00:10:29,601 --> 00:10:32,062 Coulson's gone. This is as far as I can go. 190 00:10:32,162 --> 00:10:34,142 Don't look like that. 191 00:10:34,242 --> 00:10:35,862 An engineered death, but something. 192 00:10:35,962 --> 00:10:37,822 I wanted people to take it seriously, they didn't. 193 00:10:37,922 --> 00:10:41,182 So, I'm handing everything on. 194 00:10:41,282 --> 00:10:44,022 I'm trying to persuade Alan to give me Belgium. 195 00:10:44,122 --> 00:10:46,142 They gave you Newspaper of the Year. 196 00:10:46,242 --> 00:10:49,222 That was for The Guardian, not me. I lost my category. 197 00:10:49,322 --> 00:10:52,143 - You're getting somewhere, Nick. - I got somewhere. 198 00:10:52,243 --> 00:10:54,143 Look, I know what this must have cost you. 199 00:10:54,243 --> 00:10:56,243 Cost me isn't the half of it. 200 00:10:57,043 --> 00:10:59,863 No one... No one cared. 201 00:10:59,963 --> 00:11:03,423 The whole industry turned away like a complicit snake. 202 00:11:03,523 --> 00:11:06,403 What if I said I came to see you today with an agenda? 203 00:11:07,443 --> 00:11:09,823 I'm friends with Clare Rewcastle Brown, 204 00:11:09,923 --> 00:11:12,744 the journalist and sister in law of Gordon Brown. 205 00:11:12,844 --> 00:11:14,784 He's leaning in. 206 00:11:14,884 --> 00:11:19,264 I took Dave to see him, and he now wants to meet you. 207 00:11:19,364 --> 00:11:21,704 - Gordon Brown? - Gordon's been looking at your work, 208 00:11:21,804 --> 00:11:23,884 and he thinks there's a way to use it to go further. 209 00:11:25,244 --> 00:11:28,284 Come on, Nick. What's meeting him going to cost you? 210 00:11:38,245 --> 00:11:41,545 Well, it's, uh, it's wonderful to have you all here. 211 00:11:41,645 --> 00:11:44,585 Thank you, Clare and Glen for organising it. 212 00:11:44,685 --> 00:11:47,865 You know, I have such respect for the work of everyone in this room. 213 00:11:47,965 --> 00:11:49,945 And I used to be Prime Minister. There. Does that start us off? 214 00:11:50,045 --> 00:11:51,985 Yes. 215 00:11:52,085 --> 00:11:54,946 - Just about. - The Murdoch BSkyB bid 216 00:11:55,046 --> 00:11:57,746 would be a disaster for our country. 217 00:11:57,846 --> 00:11:59,066 This hacking investigation 218 00:11:59,166 --> 00:12:01,746 needs better scrutiny than people have chosen to give it. 219 00:12:01,846 --> 00:12:03,746 If people understood, properly understood the hacking, 220 00:12:03,846 --> 00:12:05,306 what was happening with hacking, 221 00:12:05,406 --> 00:12:07,586 it may mean they rethink the BSkyB bid. 222 00:12:07,686 --> 00:12:10,066 We have a shared objective. 223 00:12:10,166 --> 00:12:12,987 How we achieve that objective is... 224 00:12:13,087 --> 00:12:16,467 well, I increasingly believe, as does Clare 225 00:12:16,567 --> 00:12:18,727 and Tom, would be best achieved together. 226 00:12:19,927 --> 00:12:21,867 And perhaps everyone would like some tea? 227 00:12:21,967 --> 00:12:23,467 And perhaps everyone would like some tea. 228 00:12:23,567 --> 00:12:25,147 Just sit, sit. I'll pour. 229 00:12:25,247 --> 00:12:27,247 No, I'll pour. 230 00:12:27,607 --> 00:12:30,827 Right. Who would like to begin? 231 00:12:30,927 --> 00:12:33,788 Well, maybe I should speak first. 232 00:12:33,888 --> 00:12:37,028 I was recently interrupted in an investigation room 233 00:12:37,128 --> 00:12:40,208 and shown details of my case and Operation Weeting that were... 234 00:12:41,528 --> 00:12:43,468 Well, the level of intrusion was troubling. 235 00:12:43,568 --> 00:12:45,468 It's just possible that Operation Weeting 236 00:12:45,568 --> 00:12:47,508 is the first Met op to be run properly. 237 00:12:47,608 --> 00:12:48,908 Well, the secret is John Yates 238 00:12:49,008 --> 00:12:50,748 - isn't running it. - Good. 239 00:12:50,848 --> 00:12:53,589 Good. So, how do we help them? 240 00:12:53,689 --> 00:12:55,669 Where will they struggle? 241 00:12:55,769 --> 00:12:58,189 Well, we have to get them to include Jonathan Rees. 242 00:12:58,289 --> 00:13:01,749 It makes no sense to tackle Mulcaire and not Rees. 243 00:13:01,849 --> 00:13:03,269 I've got invoices to show 244 00:13:03,369 --> 00:13:05,229 that they were both up to exactly the same activities. 245 00:13:05,329 --> 00:13:08,829 Prepare me a file and I'll send it to Sue Akers. 246 00:13:08,929 --> 00:13:10,869 - Is it that simple? - Well, I have access 247 00:13:10,969 --> 00:13:12,469 to Sue through the Select Committee. 248 00:13:12,569 --> 00:13:16,390 I can't promise results, but it's a start, no? 249 00:13:16,490 --> 00:13:18,590 Well, Sue and I were DS's at the same time, 250 00:13:18,690 --> 00:13:20,110 I've already asked her 251 00:13:20,210 --> 00:13:22,870 to expand the scope of the investigation, but... 252 00:13:22,970 --> 00:13:27,030 It'll mean more coming from a parliamentary perspective. 253 00:13:27,130 --> 00:13:30,150 Good. What else? 254 00:13:30,250 --> 00:13:32,750 You seem to all be constantly looking at me surprised. 255 00:13:32,850 --> 00:13:34,831 Correct me if I'm wrong but the problem 256 00:13:34,931 --> 00:13:36,871 we have is that the police, politicians and press 257 00:13:36,971 --> 00:13:39,671 are all collaborating under Murdoch's aegis. 258 00:13:39,771 --> 00:13:43,511 We are also made up of police, politicians and press 259 00:13:43,611 --> 00:13:46,311 an unofficial opposition, if you like. 260 00:13:46,411 --> 00:13:49,511 So, let's talk. 261 00:13:49,611 --> 00:13:51,611 What do we need to do? 262 00:13:57,692 --> 00:13:59,472 You, uh, 263 00:13:59,572 --> 00:14:02,512 - are you having a nice time? - I'm fine. 264 00:14:02,612 --> 00:14:04,552 You know, you're a remarkable campaigner, Nick. 265 00:14:04,652 --> 00:14:07,512 Did you ever consider full time politics? 266 00:14:07,612 --> 00:14:09,992 Um... 267 00:14:10,092 --> 00:14:13,072 Well, I don't know. I don't know... Why would you say that? 268 00:14:13,172 --> 00:14:15,833 Perhaps a bit too suspicious of other people to be a politician. 269 00:14:15,933 --> 00:14:18,313 Something I struggle with myself sometimes. 270 00:14:18,413 --> 00:14:21,893 And, uh, and I believe it because I've seen it. On this case. 271 00:14:24,173 --> 00:14:25,753 You're not sure whether I mean this, are you? 272 00:14:25,853 --> 00:14:28,633 - Sorry? - You don't trust me. 273 00:14:28,733 --> 00:14:31,313 I think this is the ball that I picked up that I will quickly drop. 274 00:14:31,413 --> 00:14:33,533 You're saying you won't drop the ball? 275 00:14:36,654 --> 00:14:42,234 You know, they, um, they came at me in every way, as you might expect. 276 00:14:42,334 --> 00:14:44,034 They blagged my lawyer, 277 00:14:44,134 --> 00:14:46,594 they procured my family's medical information, 278 00:14:46,694 --> 00:14:48,354 and they, um, 279 00:14:48,454 --> 00:14:50,474 this is quite something, they impersonated me 280 00:14:50,574 --> 00:14:52,474 to get into my building society account. 281 00:14:52,574 --> 00:14:53,794 That's a lot. 282 00:14:53,894 --> 00:14:56,355 I tried to hold a judicial inquiry into phone hacking in... 283 00:14:56,455 --> 00:14:59,715 Let's see now, uh, autumn 2009, 284 00:14:59,815 --> 00:15:03,195 - after I read a piece of yours. - That was my first article. 285 00:15:03,295 --> 00:15:06,755 The civil service resisted it, I think is the kind term. 286 00:15:06,855 --> 00:15:08,975 "It did not meet the tests of public concern." 287 00:15:10,255 --> 00:15:13,435 You know, everyone, everyone thinks they're close to Rupert. 288 00:15:13,535 --> 00:15:17,196 He's very adept at that. He talks quietly, you know all this. 289 00:15:17,296 --> 00:15:20,556 He rarely disagrees, he asks questions 290 00:15:20,656 --> 00:15:24,596 and, uh, he makes everyone feel interesting. 291 00:15:24,696 --> 00:15:29,196 It fascinates me how the powerful let him in. 292 00:15:29,296 --> 00:15:33,096 I wasn't as good at it, at that game as Tony. 293 00:15:34,096 --> 00:15:36,036 When he came for me and, uh, and he did. 294 00:15:36,136 --> 00:15:38,677 I was, I was unprepared, 295 00:15:38,777 --> 00:15:40,837 whether it was how I bowed my head at the cenotaph 296 00:15:40,937 --> 00:15:43,477 or how I wrote to the grieving mothers of dead soldiers. 297 00:15:43,577 --> 00:15:46,297 - Yes, I remember. - You know, I rang Rupert 298 00:15:47,337 --> 00:15:51,997 to tell him that his papers were damaging morale in Afghanistan. 299 00:15:52,097 --> 00:15:55,317 As prime minister, I was asking people to fight, 300 00:15:55,417 --> 00:15:58,118 to risk, and he was telling them article after article 301 00:15:58,218 --> 00:16:00,878 that I was casual with their lives, with soldiers' life. 302 00:16:00,978 --> 00:16:03,558 That I didn't care. To undermine that, 303 00:16:03,658 --> 00:16:06,058 to make those young people feel... 304 00:16:08,618 --> 00:16:10,618 undervalued by their government. 305 00:16:12,978 --> 00:16:14,978 It's just not right. 306 00:16:19,699 --> 00:16:20,799 Sometimes you can tell 307 00:16:20,899 --> 00:16:23,259 that you're the son of a preacher. 308 00:16:25,579 --> 00:16:29,299 You know he wants everything, his ambition is limitless. 309 00:16:31,419 --> 00:16:34,259 But he's overstepped here. And badly. 310 00:16:35,819 --> 00:16:39,540 We can and we should do something important to counter him. 311 00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:42,860 But this started with you 312 00:16:43,380 --> 00:16:45,380 and it's going to need to end with you. 313 00:16:46,940 --> 00:16:51,260 All of which is to say, we need you, Nick. 314 00:17:00,261 --> 00:17:03,181 - Dave. Dave. - Yes, sir. 315 00:17:04,501 --> 00:17:08,041 - How's life at SOCA? - We're getting somewhere today. 316 00:17:08,141 --> 00:17:11,161 Did I hear you've been giving orders to GCHQ? That must be fun. 317 00:17:11,261 --> 00:17:13,921 It's a bit more complicated than that. 318 00:17:14,021 --> 00:17:16,041 What can I do for you, John? 319 00:17:16,141 --> 00:17:18,122 Would you mind popping into mine for a minute? 320 00:17:18,222 --> 00:17:19,442 Sure. 321 00:17:19,542 --> 00:17:23,582 Internal Investigations caught an email coming from your computer 322 00:17:24,622 --> 00:17:27,262 - to Mike Sullivan at The Sun. - Which email? 323 00:17:31,782 --> 00:17:32,842 So, why is this a problem? 324 00:17:32,942 --> 00:17:34,242 I said you'd rather be told it by me... 325 00:17:34,342 --> 00:17:36,322 Well, he was useful on Morgan, he's still useful now. 326 00:17:36,422 --> 00:17:37,522 I mean, you've got a good relationship 327 00:17:37,622 --> 00:17:38,563 with him yourself, haven't you? 328 00:17:38,663 --> 00:17:39,803 I also have one or two questions 329 00:17:39,903 --> 00:17:41,643 about the Panorama programme that went out. 330 00:17:41,743 --> 00:17:43,443 - Yeah. - I believe you're friends 331 00:17:43,543 --> 00:17:45,283 with Glen Campbell at Panorama. 332 00:17:45,383 --> 00:17:47,843 - I have been. - Do you think you could ask him 333 00:17:47,943 --> 00:17:50,523 how he got footage of Jonathan Rees at his computer? 334 00:17:50,623 --> 00:17:52,563 Well, he's quite protective of his sources. 335 00:17:52,663 --> 00:17:54,843 Rees is convinced, as am I, 336 00:17:54,943 --> 00:17:57,043 that the footage could only have come from inside the Met. 337 00:17:57,143 --> 00:18:00,124 He's threatening to take action. Again. 338 00:18:00,224 --> 00:18:03,124 Did it? Come from inside the Met? 339 00:18:03,224 --> 00:18:05,884 - Is that a further... - The request to pass information 340 00:18:05,984 --> 00:18:07,244 to Mike Sullivan came from you. 341 00:18:07,344 --> 00:18:09,844 - I mean, he's your mate. - But there are rules, Dave, 342 00:18:09,944 --> 00:18:12,284 - and you know that. - I do. 343 00:18:12,384 --> 00:18:16,764 And how's Operation Weeting treating you, Mr Rules? 344 00:18:16,864 --> 00:18:22,245 Give Panorama, Mike Sullivan, Nick Davies or anyone fucking else, 345 00:18:22,345 --> 00:18:24,365 anything about our cases 346 00:18:24,465 --> 00:18:26,005 and you'll be strung up for all to see. 347 00:18:26,105 --> 00:18:29,705 - Do you hear me? - Yeah, I hear you. 348 00:18:36,505 --> 00:18:39,326 I've got permission to talk about it with you and you alone. 349 00:18:39,426 --> 00:18:41,566 - I am privileged. - That means private meetings, 350 00:18:41,666 --> 00:18:43,766 you and I, outside of editorial. 351 00:18:43,866 --> 00:18:46,166 Of course. When have we not had those? 352 00:18:46,266 --> 00:18:50,206 - Welcome back. - Alan. Our Scottish friend, 353 00:18:50,306 --> 00:18:52,306 you know him better than I do. 354 00:18:54,906 --> 00:18:58,326 - We can trust him, right? - I want to say two things. 355 00:18:58,426 --> 00:19:01,567 One, you're a journalist 356 00:19:01,667 --> 00:19:06,327 and I am scared that getting into bed with certain politicians 357 00:19:06,427 --> 00:19:09,887 - we'll lose our vital independence. - You do it all the time. 358 00:19:09,987 --> 00:19:12,767 I share my bed with all political parties 359 00:19:12,867 --> 00:19:17,147 and I hope I'm pretty fair at sharing the covers. 360 00:19:22,628 --> 00:19:25,608 Nick, we've just removed 361 00:19:25,708 --> 00:19:27,768 a senior member of Conservative staff, 362 00:19:27,868 --> 00:19:29,328 and I don't want that dismissed 363 00:19:29,428 --> 00:19:31,768 as coming from the newspaper arm of the Labour group. 364 00:19:31,868 --> 00:19:33,808 Yeah, understood. But I asked about Gordon. 365 00:19:33,908 --> 00:19:36,568 And that's the second thing. 366 00:19:36,668 --> 00:19:38,848 You don't go into a room with Gordon Brown 367 00:19:38,948 --> 00:19:40,169 and get what you want, 368 00:19:40,269 --> 00:19:42,249 you go into a room and get what he wants. 369 00:19:42,349 --> 00:19:47,340 He's ferociously intelligent, and very used to power. 370 00:19:47,599 --> 00:19:53,356 But if your interests align, as I think they do here, 371 00:19:54,922 --> 00:19:56,922 he can be a remarkable ally. 372 00:19:58,389 --> 00:20:02,170 - One last push, is it? - And then I want Brussels. 373 00:20:02,270 --> 00:20:05,610 And then you want your well-paid chocolate dream. 374 00:20:05,716 --> 00:20:07,736 Of course. Good. 375 00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:10,290 But please Nick, take it slow. 376 00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:12,770 To work. What have you got? 377 00:20:12,883 --> 00:20:14,983 The flood of cases is overwhelming the courts. 378 00:20:15,070 --> 00:20:16,783 So, they've just appointed a Hacking Judge. 379 00:20:16,784 --> 00:20:18,050 He's already causing trouble. 380 00:20:18,150 --> 00:20:19,770 At the Andy Gray trial, he said it's clear 381 00:20:19,870 --> 00:20:21,851 Mulcaire had been regularly hacking him. 382 00:20:21,951 --> 00:20:25,171 So that's an invitation. Any man, woman or creature 383 00:20:25,271 --> 00:20:28,731 who has anything in those books has been given license to sue. 384 00:20:28,831 --> 00:20:30,911 - And you'll write it up? - Yeah. 385 00:20:34,191 --> 00:20:36,184 Why do you think they gave us this? 386 00:20:36,671 --> 00:20:38,811 Huh? For good journalism. 387 00:20:38,911 --> 00:20:42,292 None of them support the story, our story. 388 00:20:42,392 --> 00:20:46,192 Guilt, the world's most powerful motive. 389 00:20:49,278 --> 00:20:51,898 - I love you, darling. - Yeah. I love you too. 390 00:20:51,992 --> 00:20:54,252 - Dinner's in an hour. - Okay. 391 00:20:54,352 --> 00:20:56,432 It's mac and cheese. 392 00:20:57,925 --> 00:21:00,945 She's not been sleeping very well. 393 00:21:01,032 --> 00:21:03,973 I've been making her leave her phone downstairs most nights, 394 00:21:04,073 --> 00:21:06,533 I'm not sure you'll get away with that. 395 00:21:06,633 --> 00:21:08,453 I'll do my best. 396 00:21:08,553 --> 00:21:10,553 Also, um... 397 00:21:12,473 --> 00:21:15,593 I've been contacted by Operation Weeting. 398 00:21:16,873 --> 00:21:20,913 - Oh, have you? - You knew then? 399 00:21:24,794 --> 00:21:26,414 The things they had on me. 400 00:21:26,514 --> 00:21:27,614 I know. I'm sorry. 401 00:21:27,714 --> 00:21:29,714 - I should have warned you. - Yeah. 402 00:21:33,114 --> 00:21:35,414 - Yates came after me today. - And? 403 00:21:35,514 --> 00:21:38,060 - Didn't land a punch. - Good. 404 00:21:39,220 --> 00:21:41,540 They're keeping me at arms length, 405 00:21:41,954 --> 00:21:44,735 but they did tell me a few pieces of useful information. 406 00:21:44,835 --> 00:21:49,295 You remember that time Surrey police got a call fishing for my details. 407 00:21:49,402 --> 00:21:52,242 - Mm-hm. - Well, Weeting told me that, um, 408 00:21:53,275 --> 00:21:55,695 it was probably Mulcaire who made that call. 409 00:21:55,795 --> 00:21:57,795 Jesus Christ. 410 00:22:00,515 --> 00:22:03,516 I don't think anyone's understood the depth of criminality here. 411 00:22:04,556 --> 00:22:06,776 Destabilising police investigations, 412 00:22:06,896 --> 00:22:09,260 we're talking about a murder charge being... 413 00:22:09,716 --> 00:22:11,796 Yeah. Look, who I'm telling, right? 414 00:22:12,996 --> 00:22:15,196 - Please don't laugh at me about this. - I'm not. 415 00:22:16,263 --> 00:22:17,660 I'm not. 416 00:22:19,980 --> 00:22:21,536 You know, right at the beginning of this, 417 00:22:21,636 --> 00:22:23,637 I went to see Rebekah Brooks. 418 00:22:25,037 --> 00:22:28,797 And I said, what you're doing is outrageous. 419 00:22:29,937 --> 00:22:31,660 And you know what she said? 420 00:22:32,740 --> 00:22:34,177 She said, "We believed 421 00:22:34,277 --> 00:22:36,697 that you and Jackie were having an affair, 422 00:22:36,797 --> 00:22:41,420 and as you're both public figures, public interest was on our side." 423 00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:43,818 They thought we were having an affair 424 00:22:43,918 --> 00:22:45,918 - when we were already married? - Ridiculous. 425 00:22:47,758 --> 00:22:50,158 - Absurd. - Cruel, I think is a better word. 426 00:22:54,118 --> 00:22:55,220 Yeah. 427 00:23:02,780 --> 00:23:06,480 I have a source in the police who's been quite openly victimised. 428 00:23:06,580 --> 00:23:10,081 Might stop the whining celebrity angle. 429 00:23:10,181 --> 00:23:12,241 What whining celebrity angle? 430 00:23:12,341 --> 00:23:14,281 People dismissing it because they think 431 00:23:14,381 --> 00:23:17,161 it's just celebrities whining. Get him on the record. 432 00:23:17,261 --> 00:23:18,801 It's just, he's been badly damaged 433 00:23:18,901 --> 00:23:21,021 - by all this already. - You're Nick Davies? 434 00:23:22,541 --> 00:23:25,241 Only on weekdays. Have we met? How can I help? 435 00:23:25,341 --> 00:23:26,401 By telling me what the fuck 436 00:23:26,501 --> 00:23:28,501 you think you're doing stealing my story? 437 00:23:30,182 --> 00:23:32,182 Can we use your office? 438 00:23:37,822 --> 00:23:41,642 - Which story have I stolen? - Apparently, you're Mr Hacking. 439 00:23:41,742 --> 00:23:42,882 Every hacking story 440 00:23:42,982 --> 00:23:44,982 - carries your byline. - It doesn't. 441 00:23:45,742 --> 00:23:47,802 Today. In the paper. Published. 442 00:23:47,902 --> 00:23:50,703 - You didn't write one word of it. - No. 443 00:23:52,503 --> 00:23:56,383 - Well, aren't you going to apologise? - No. 444 00:23:59,063 --> 00:24:01,563 You know, The Guardian gives out all this shit 445 00:24:01,663 --> 00:24:03,683 about what kind of world it wants, and yet... 446 00:24:03,783 --> 00:24:06,443 - This is well written. - Fuck off. 447 00:24:06,543 --> 00:24:09,483 I didn't ask for a credit on it. Whoever said I did was wrong. 448 00:24:09,583 --> 00:24:11,444 Right, then, who do we see next? 449 00:24:11,544 --> 00:24:13,524 - Alan? - Bold, don't you think? 450 00:24:13,624 --> 00:24:15,604 Writing a story about the hacking scandal 451 00:24:15,704 --> 00:24:16,804 without consulting someone 452 00:24:16,904 --> 00:24:19,864 who spent the last three years having his life destroyed by it? 453 00:24:22,024 --> 00:24:23,484 Is this what works for you? 454 00:24:23,584 --> 00:24:25,524 When you're attacked you just attack back? 455 00:24:25,624 --> 00:24:26,844 No. Sometimes. 456 00:24:26,944 --> 00:24:28,884 Maybe. You could have something there. 457 00:24:28,984 --> 00:24:32,685 This is about Operation Weeting, it's a totally different thing. 458 00:24:32,785 --> 00:24:35,305 How come I haven't seen you round the offices before? 459 00:24:36,705 --> 00:24:40,365 I work alone. My own hours. They're supportive of it. 460 00:24:40,465 --> 00:24:42,205 And what have you got on Weeting? 461 00:24:42,305 --> 00:24:44,885 A contact of mine in the force has been put on it. 462 00:24:44,985 --> 00:24:46,845 He's feeding me. 463 00:24:46,945 --> 00:24:48,885 - Tell me everything. - No. 464 00:24:52,466 --> 00:24:56,566 He says it's timid. He's eager for more action. 465 00:24:56,666 --> 00:24:59,426 - What's he giving you? - Each arrest as it happens. 466 00:25:00,706 --> 00:25:01,926 Neville Thurlbeck is going to be 467 00:25:02,026 --> 00:25:03,766 at Kingston Police Station between nine and ten, 468 00:25:03,866 --> 00:25:06,406 so, I'm there conveniently for the arrest. 469 00:25:06,506 --> 00:25:11,047 Can you... might you tell your source, 470 00:25:11,147 --> 00:25:13,847 um, tell him to look into the initial Select Committee hearings, 471 00:25:13,947 --> 00:25:16,647 in particular the letter they got from the News International lawyers. 472 00:25:16,747 --> 00:25:20,107 Because there's disclosures in that the police never got the answer to. 473 00:25:23,747 --> 00:25:26,647 Thanks. I will. 474 00:25:26,747 --> 00:25:30,847 Would it be so bad, us working together? 475 00:25:30,947 --> 00:25:33,068 You need to see this. 476 00:25:34,068 --> 00:25:36,848 Here's Ben Rosier in Wapping with more on this story. 477 00:25:36,948 --> 00:25:38,128 First, the denials 478 00:25:38,228 --> 00:25:40,768 that celebrity voicemail messages were listened to, 479 00:25:40,868 --> 00:25:43,488 then they claim it was down to a single rogue reporter 480 00:25:43,588 --> 00:25:45,728 - and a private investigator sidekick. - What? 481 00:25:45,828 --> 00:25:47,168 Now the admission, 482 00:25:47,268 --> 00:25:49,568 "We failed to uncover what was going on." 483 00:25:49,668 --> 00:25:52,409 "We're going to apologise, and we're going to pay up." 484 00:25:52,509 --> 00:25:55,449 - Fuck. - Absolutely right. 485 00:25:55,549 --> 00:25:58,969 What exactly are The News of the World admitting to? 486 00:25:59,069 --> 00:26:01,769 - It's brilliant. - Is it? 487 00:26:01,869 --> 00:26:04,809 Well, by admitting they're at fault, and agreeing to cooperate, 488 00:26:04,909 --> 00:26:07,649 in fact, what they're doing is they're finding a new device 489 00:26:07,749 --> 00:26:10,729 for concealing the truth. Nick, will it be cheaper? 490 00:26:10,829 --> 00:26:12,010 Uh, standard-rate damages 491 00:26:12,110 --> 00:26:14,250 rather than the million-pound hush money they've had to pay out. 492 00:26:14,350 --> 00:26:17,490 And getting this out in court now is next to impossible. Am I right? 493 00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:21,090 Well, if you are... Uh, for instance, Sienna Miller 494 00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:23,130 and you do take it to trial, 495 00:26:23,230 --> 00:26:25,890 then if she ends up getting less at trial 496 00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:28,130 than they offered her before, then she risks being ordered 497 00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:31,330 to pay both side's costs, which could be astronomical. 498 00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:34,731 And so... Then, yes, it makes getting to trial almost impossible. 499 00:26:34,831 --> 00:26:37,571 - Shit. - My advice is... 500 00:26:37,671 --> 00:26:40,331 They've twisted one way, we must twist another. 501 00:26:40,431 --> 00:26:43,251 I've had a reply from Sue Akers on Rees. 502 00:26:43,351 --> 00:26:45,291 She's shutting you down? 503 00:26:45,391 --> 00:26:47,611 She says her remit is limited 504 00:26:47,711 --> 00:26:50,291 to Mulcaire and the notebooks. She isn't going near Rees. 505 00:26:50,391 --> 00:26:53,572 Should we try to leak something? Put pressure on that way. 506 00:26:53,672 --> 00:26:56,052 I've got Rees specifically targeting Kate Middleton. 507 00:26:56,152 --> 00:26:58,092 I've just heard he targeted John Yates. 508 00:26:58,192 --> 00:27:02,932 Or we could... Do you think... If we twisted an arm or two, 509 00:27:03,032 --> 00:27:05,772 do you think we could get me up the list for PMQs? 510 00:27:05,872 --> 00:27:09,532 - Ah. That's a very good idea. - I'm not following. 511 00:27:09,632 --> 00:27:11,572 What does Sue Akers want? 512 00:27:11,672 --> 00:27:14,213 To be free to take the evidence wherever it leads her, 513 00:27:14,313 --> 00:27:16,613 with a swift prod from the left. 514 00:27:16,713 --> 00:27:19,293 Maybe the Prime Minister will extend her brief. 515 00:27:19,393 --> 00:27:22,973 - You could even name Rees. - Oh. Good. Good. 516 00:27:23,073 --> 00:27:26,473 Hang on. All of this exposes Dave to scrutiny again. 517 00:27:28,353 --> 00:27:31,053 - I'm ready. - Tom, can I help? 518 00:27:31,153 --> 00:27:34,174 - Please do. - Good. Good. 519 00:27:34,274 --> 00:27:36,214 Let's box Cameron in. 520 00:27:36,314 --> 00:27:38,254 As the Prime Minister has previously said, 521 00:27:38,354 --> 00:27:41,814 the hacking inquiry should go where the evidence takes it. 522 00:27:41,914 --> 00:27:44,974 The Metropolitan Police are in possession of paperwork, 523 00:27:45,074 --> 00:27:46,454 which details the dealings 524 00:27:46,554 --> 00:27:49,214 of criminal private investigator Jonathan Rees. 525 00:27:49,314 --> 00:27:52,574 It strongly suggests that on behalf of News International, 526 00:27:52,674 --> 00:27:55,495 he was illegally targeting members of the royal family, 527 00:27:55,595 --> 00:27:59,095 senior politicians and high level terrorist informers. 528 00:27:59,195 --> 00:28:02,575 Yet the head of Operation Weeting has recently written to me 529 00:28:02,675 --> 00:28:04,055 to explain that this evidence 530 00:28:04,155 --> 00:28:07,015 may be outside the inquiry's terms of reference. 531 00:28:07,115 --> 00:28:08,735 Prime Minister, 532 00:28:08,835 --> 00:28:11,875 I believe powerful forces are involved in a cover-up. 533 00:28:13,435 --> 00:28:16,696 Please, please tell me what you intend to do 534 00:28:16,796 --> 00:28:18,796 to make sure that this doesn't happen. 535 00:28:21,116 --> 00:28:23,216 The point I'd make to the honourable gentleman 536 00:28:23,316 --> 00:28:26,896 who I Know takes a close interest in this, is there is a police inquiry. 537 00:28:26,996 --> 00:28:29,216 A police inquiry doesn't need terms of reference. 538 00:28:29,316 --> 00:28:31,936 The police are free to investigate the evidence 539 00:28:32,036 --> 00:28:33,976 and take that wherever it leads them 540 00:28:34,076 --> 00:28:36,677 and then mount a prosecution with the CPS. 541 00:28:38,797 --> 00:28:40,777 - Amelia. Hi. - Sorry, go in. 542 00:28:40,877 --> 00:28:43,097 Sorry. A bit weird to wait for people outside toilets. 543 00:28:43,197 --> 00:28:45,137 - Oh, I've done worse. - Got a minute? 544 00:28:45,237 --> 00:28:48,697 - Sure. - Two inquiries are being set up. 545 00:28:48,797 --> 00:28:49,977 Operation Tuleta, 546 00:28:50,077 --> 00:28:51,777 looking specifically into Jonathan Rees. 547 00:28:51,877 --> 00:28:53,817 - Good. - Operation Elveden... 548 00:28:53,917 --> 00:28:56,138 I can never get over Scotland Yard's need for strange names. 549 00:28:56,238 --> 00:28:58,818 To investigate the alleged payment of bribes to police officers 550 00:28:58,918 --> 00:29:01,418 and other officials from journalists from the News of the World. 551 00:29:01,518 --> 00:29:04,898 - What's made them do this? - You didn't see Tom Watson's speech? 552 00:29:04,998 --> 00:29:07,738 - Oh, I may have done. - Did you write it? 553 00:29:12,598 --> 00:29:17,179 Also, the Select Committee wading you suggested to my officer, 554 00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:19,459 - let's call him... - Jingle. 555 00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:21,799 Fine. It proved fruitful. 556 00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:25,859 Operation Weeting forced some e-mails out of News International. 557 00:29:25,959 --> 00:29:27,219 And the Met discovered on their servers 558 00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:29,059 some systematic deletions. 559 00:29:29,159 --> 00:29:30,859 - Of course. - In particular, 560 00:29:30,959 --> 00:29:33,939 one enormous deletion in January. 561 00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:35,740 While they were handing over 562 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,220 those three e-mails from Ian Edmondson? Bastards! 563 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,140 - Can we print? - I'm... I'm working on it. 564 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,540 Look, Jingle was grateful for the advice. 565 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,020 He said he can't volunteer information on active cases, 566 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,320 but ask him a question, he'll tell no lies. 567 00:29:59,361 --> 00:30:00,621 We've had something interesting come up. 568 00:30:00,721 --> 00:30:01,781 What is Judge Voss doing? 569 00:30:01,881 --> 00:30:04,061 I feel like we've only seen a tiny percent of Mulcaire's note. 570 00:30:04,161 --> 00:30:06,901 Voss is being robust with everyone. It's yielding fruit. 571 00:30:07,001 --> 00:30:09,541 - Sienna Miller is being typically... - The Sky Andrew case feels important. 572 00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:10,861 - Where are we... - Nick, I've got something, 573 00:30:10,961 --> 00:30:12,981 if you're interested, but you will need to listen. 574 00:30:13,081 --> 00:30:15,081 Sorry. Go on. 575 00:30:17,522 --> 00:30:20,462 I've been representing, as you know, Leslie Ash and Lee Chapman. 576 00:30:20,562 --> 00:30:21,582 Yeah, I read about it. 577 00:30:21,682 --> 00:30:23,682 You're doing brilliantly. 578 00:30:24,762 --> 00:30:26,942 You're like my ex, you always get complimentary 579 00:30:27,042 --> 00:30:29,382 when you know you're in the wrong. 580 00:30:29,482 --> 00:30:31,482 Sorry. I am sorry. 581 00:30:33,122 --> 00:30:35,062 I heard you were a mess. 582 00:30:35,162 --> 00:30:38,103 Oh, fine. I can see an island of sanity. 583 00:30:38,203 --> 00:30:41,003 I'm... I'm floating close to it. Go on. 584 00:30:45,763 --> 00:30:47,703 I went to Putney so that the rooting officers 585 00:30:47,803 --> 00:30:50,263 could show me the notes Mulcaire had taken from Leslie Ash 586 00:30:50,363 --> 00:30:52,103 - and Lee Chapman's voicemail. - Yeah. 587 00:30:52,203 --> 00:30:58,664 And some genius combined the two names 588 00:30:58,764 --> 00:31:01,924 and gave me the details of Leslie Chapman. 589 00:31:03,564 --> 00:31:06,484 - Remind me. - Jessica Chapman's father. 590 00:31:07,524 --> 00:31:09,584 Jessica Chapman was one of the murdered schoolgirls, right? 591 00:31:09,684 --> 00:31:11,584 The Soham murders? 592 00:31:11,684 --> 00:31:14,624 It looks like Leslie Chapman's voicemail was hacked. 593 00:31:14,724 --> 00:31:16,865 They hacked the voicemail of a grieving father? 594 00:31:16,965 --> 00:31:21,885 I'm not sure, but it looks that way. You can't use it. Yet. 595 00:31:23,805 --> 00:31:26,865 - This could change everything. - I need to talk to the family. 596 00:31:26,965 --> 00:31:30,985 I need permissions. I need to be sure. 597 00:31:31,085 --> 00:31:32,465 The Chapman family, I could talk to them. 598 00:31:32,565 --> 00:31:34,565 That's not why I'm telling you this. 599 00:31:35,645 --> 00:31:39,386 Nick, think. If they're doing this to the Chapmans... 600 00:31:39,486 --> 00:31:42,406 - Where else have they been? - Exactly. 601 00:31:48,566 --> 00:31:50,506 Jessica Chapman. 602 00:31:50,606 --> 00:31:54,066 The Soham murders tore the police apart for a while. 603 00:31:54,166 --> 00:31:56,666 She's sure they were in the parents' phone? 604 00:31:56,766 --> 00:31:59,707 It's in Mulcaire's notebooks. But I can't get in there. 605 00:31:59,807 --> 00:32:02,427 - I've got to find another way in. - You will. 606 00:32:02,527 --> 00:32:06,687 - I envy your confidence. - No, just, um... 607 00:32:09,887 --> 00:32:11,887 I'm just happy to have you back. 608 00:32:15,087 --> 00:32:17,908 - I thought that was better. - Sometimes. 609 00:32:18,008 --> 00:32:20,008 It comes and goes. 610 00:32:21,848 --> 00:32:23,788 Are you just frying that cheese? 611 00:32:23,888 --> 00:32:24,988 It's halloumi cheese. 612 00:32:25,088 --> 00:32:27,148 - You'll like it. - I'm not hungry anymore. 613 00:32:27,248 --> 00:32:28,588 - What? - No, it's just that I don't get it. 614 00:32:28,688 --> 00:32:29,868 I mean... 615 00:32:29,968 --> 00:32:32,008 I eat when I know that I have to eat. 616 00:32:33,328 --> 00:32:35,548 I just don't get hungry anymore. 617 00:32:35,648 --> 00:32:37,588 - Don't. - What? 618 00:32:37,688 --> 00:32:39,669 - With that sympathy look. - I'm not being sympathetic. 619 00:32:39,769 --> 00:32:42,149 Don't try and pretend you're in any better state than me. 620 00:32:42,249 --> 00:32:44,749 I've seen you, mate. You are this close to total collapse. 621 00:32:44,849 --> 00:32:46,149 - I'm telling you. - You know the story 622 00:32:46,249 --> 00:32:47,309 of the dung beetle? 623 00:32:47,409 --> 00:32:49,509 Oh, God. Have I stooped that low? 624 00:32:49,609 --> 00:32:51,789 - What? - It's what you trot out. 625 00:32:51,889 --> 00:32:54,949 You trot out that story quite a lot, you know. Ask your kids. 626 00:32:55,049 --> 00:32:57,749 Christ, pity your kids. Whatever's going on... 627 00:32:57,849 --> 00:33:00,550 - Have you heard of the dung beetle? - An aggressive response. 628 00:33:00,650 --> 00:33:03,030 Come on. 629 00:33:03,130 --> 00:33:06,130 - That'll make you hungry. - Thank you. 630 00:33:09,530 --> 00:33:11,530 - You want to know how I do it? - Hmm. 631 00:33:12,530 --> 00:33:16,090 I focus on the details. Always the next detail. 632 00:33:17,730 --> 00:33:20,531 I've been phobic of blood ever since a body exploded on me. 633 00:33:21,691 --> 00:33:23,471 - Body exploded on you? - Yeah, well, 634 00:33:23,571 --> 00:33:25,231 an older man full of hernias. 635 00:33:25,331 --> 00:33:30,511 Normally, when a pathologist scalpel enters a cadaver, you hear a hiss. 636 00:33:30,611 --> 00:33:33,431 Well, this time he exploded. 637 00:33:33,531 --> 00:33:35,871 Blood was everywhere, I was covered in it. 638 00:33:35,971 --> 00:33:37,551 I was in homicide. So going to pathology 639 00:33:37,651 --> 00:33:39,992 is a key part of my job, right? 640 00:33:40,092 --> 00:33:42,092 So I focused on the details. 641 00:33:43,092 --> 00:33:45,092 Ears, toes. 642 00:33:46,692 --> 00:33:48,692 Even how the wound looked. 643 00:33:49,772 --> 00:33:51,772 The blood, I made disappear. 644 00:33:56,492 --> 00:33:58,492 So how do you do it, Nick? 645 00:34:48,575 --> 00:34:50,575 Tell me I'm mad. 646 00:34:51,815 --> 00:34:53,755 - With pleasure. - I was in the database. 647 00:34:53,855 --> 00:34:56,555 News of the World, April 14th, 2002. 648 00:34:56,655 --> 00:34:58,635 Two hundred fifty words long, page nine. 649 00:34:58,735 --> 00:35:00,355 It claims that voicemail messages 650 00:35:00,455 --> 00:35:03,416 were sent to Milly's phone after she disappeared. 651 00:35:04,776 --> 00:35:06,716 Milly Dowler. 652 00:35:06,816 --> 00:35:08,396 "Police say voicemails were left 653 00:35:08,496 --> 00:35:12,036 by a mentally disturbed woman who was hoaxed previous inquiries." 654 00:35:12,136 --> 00:35:14,756 It even quotes what the voicemail said. 655 00:35:14,856 --> 00:35:17,956 "Uh, hello. We're ringing because we have some interviews starting. 656 00:35:18,056 --> 00:35:20,056 Can you call me back? Thank you. Bye-bye." 657 00:35:23,137 --> 00:35:25,657 This is six days after Milly had disappeared. 658 00:35:29,417 --> 00:35:31,457 Final edition of the paper. 659 00:35:33,097 --> 00:35:35,097 That reference was removed. 660 00:35:39,817 --> 00:35:42,358 Because they might have realised what a boo-boo they had made. 661 00:35:42,458 --> 00:35:43,518 Charlotte has evidence 662 00:35:43,618 --> 00:35:46,998 that they hacked Jessica Chapman's father on the Soham case. 663 00:35:47,098 --> 00:35:49,598 We can't get close to that, that was the family... 664 00:35:49,698 --> 00:35:53,258 - But this is the girl herself. - Rebekah was editor then. 665 00:35:54,658 --> 00:35:56,658 This was under her aegis. 666 00:35:58,898 --> 00:36:01,138 - Can you confirm this? - I think so. 667 00:36:05,925 --> 00:36:08,245 Is this as big as I think it is? 668 00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:11,679 Yes, it is. 669 00:36:13,891 --> 00:36:16,211 Make sure it stands up. 670 00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:30,080 Yeah, hi. Any fruit? 671 00:36:30,180 --> 00:36:31,720 Jingle says they've been investigating. 672 00:36:31,820 --> 00:36:34,040 Is that confirmation? Are they confirming that it happened? 673 00:36:34,140 --> 00:36:37,060 Yes. There is a page on Dowler in Mulcaire's notebooks. 674 00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:40,840 Right. We need to be absolutely watertight. 675 00:36:40,940 --> 00:36:43,760 Nick, he also says they're pursuing a line of inquiry, 676 00:36:43,860 --> 00:36:47,040 they deleted messages because the voice mailbox was full. 677 00:36:47,140 --> 00:36:48,841 They deleted messages? 678 00:36:48,941 --> 00:36:51,081 I'll get us a firm anonymous quote from Jingle. 679 00:36:51,181 --> 00:36:53,221 - Okay, thanks Amelia. Bye-bye. - Bye. 680 00:36:55,301 --> 00:36:58,281 I have a source from inside Weeting, I've got the article. Glen. 681 00:36:58,381 --> 00:36:59,681 I've got a good source saying 682 00:36:59,781 --> 00:37:02,261 that Surrey police knew about it and the Dowler family did not. 683 00:37:03,421 --> 00:37:06,201 Well, this is it. This is it. 684 00:37:06,301 --> 00:37:09,642 I don't want to believe, but I do. 685 00:37:09,742 --> 00:37:12,242 The source is clear. Stuart Kuttner... 686 00:37:12,342 --> 00:37:14,882 - Remember him? - ...even called Surrey police. 687 00:37:14,982 --> 00:37:17,122 He didn't just hear the voicemail, he followed up on it. 688 00:37:17,222 --> 00:37:19,722 They even think they deleted her answerphone messages 689 00:37:19,822 --> 00:37:22,442 to allow space for messages to be given. 690 00:37:22,542 --> 00:37:23,642 Which made the family think 691 00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:25,562 - she was still alive. - Oh, God. 692 00:37:25,662 --> 00:37:29,583 Do you know if we can land this, this changes everything. 693 00:37:30,583 --> 00:37:35,283 - How? - A child? A dead child's phone? 694 00:37:35,383 --> 00:37:37,763 It's despicable. You know, part of the British public 695 00:37:37,863 --> 00:37:39,483 think that celebrities, politicians, 696 00:37:39,583 --> 00:37:41,443 journalists even deserve everything they get. 697 00:37:41,543 --> 00:37:46,623 But when an innocent is harmed, an innocent already wronged. 698 00:37:47,623 --> 00:37:51,924 Trust me, the News of the World won't be forgiven for this. 699 00:37:57,064 --> 00:37:59,064 Hi, this is Dave. Leave a message. 700 00:38:00,464 --> 00:38:04,484 David, I've been offered to go on to Channel 4. 701 00:38:04,584 --> 00:38:06,884 I don't have a career to protect, and I think I should do it. 702 00:38:06,984 --> 00:38:08,924 If you have a problem with any of this, 703 00:38:09,024 --> 00:38:11,745 could you just call me or text me, please? Thank you. 704 00:38:42,626 --> 00:38:44,886 Mrs Dowler? 705 00:38:44,986 --> 00:38:46,486 - My name is Nick Davies. - I know. 706 00:38:46,586 --> 00:38:48,246 They said you'd be coming by. 707 00:38:48,346 --> 00:38:50,387 I've just been watching you on YouTube. 708 00:38:51,467 --> 00:38:53,467 - Come on. Come in. - Thank you. 709 00:39:00,547 --> 00:39:02,547 Thank you. 710 00:39:04,387 --> 00:39:07,347 - So the police are keeping you... - Up to date with it all, yes. 711 00:39:09,107 --> 00:39:10,287 Operation Weeting, 712 00:39:10,387 --> 00:39:12,588 - good team, it seems. - They say it was true. 713 00:39:13,988 --> 00:39:15,988 Our daughter was hacked. 714 00:39:17,108 --> 00:39:20,828 - Yes. - Can you tell us why? 715 00:39:22,988 --> 00:39:24,928 Why? Sorry? 716 00:39:25,028 --> 00:39:28,388 What we don't understand is why someone would do this. 717 00:39:29,708 --> 00:39:31,909 You're a journalist. Can you explain? 718 00:39:38,429 --> 00:39:40,589 I think they thought there was a good story in it. 719 00:39:42,109 --> 00:39:44,289 A good story? 720 00:39:44,389 --> 00:39:47,329 They wanted to... either to find her, 721 00:39:47,429 --> 00:39:50,329 or to find something printable about her. 722 00:39:50,429 --> 00:39:53,210 So, the phone promised all those things. 723 00:39:53,310 --> 00:39:56,390 But we'd only just lost her, didn't they know it was wrong? 724 00:39:58,950 --> 00:40:01,010 I think they didn't consider that. 725 00:40:01,110 --> 00:40:03,430 Didn't they know it would hurt us? 726 00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:10,150 Milly... 727 00:40:11,991 --> 00:40:14,751 At that time, Milly was the most famous person in the UK, 728 00:40:15,751 --> 00:40:17,791 and everyone wanted to read about her. 729 00:40:20,431 --> 00:40:22,831 And I'm afraid they needed to sell their newspaper. 730 00:40:24,271 --> 00:40:26,811 And now you're here. 731 00:40:26,911 --> 00:40:29,711 - As someone else selling a newspaper. - I am. 732 00:40:33,392 --> 00:40:38,072 Yes, but I'm hoping what we are doing... 733 00:40:40,992 --> 00:40:45,012 will help expose a wrong that was done to your daughter. 734 00:40:45,112 --> 00:40:47,752 However, yes, I, uh, we are selling newspapers, 735 00:40:48,912 --> 00:40:51,972 and I know that all this will be bringing her 736 00:40:52,072 --> 00:40:54,013 back into the spotlight again, 737 00:40:54,113 --> 00:40:56,113 - and I know... - That's painful? 738 00:40:58,073 --> 00:41:00,953 - Just slightly. - Yeah. 739 00:41:03,753 --> 00:41:05,753 But you should do it all the same. 740 00:41:07,313 --> 00:41:10,553 You have our permission Nick, if you needed it, that is. 741 00:41:14,074 --> 00:41:16,074 Thank you. 742 00:41:17,314 --> 00:41:18,774 Always can never get used to microphones 743 00:41:18,874 --> 00:41:19,894 being poked everywhere. 744 00:41:19,994 --> 00:41:23,054 I'm used to it. Crimewatch. 745 00:41:23,154 --> 00:41:25,494 Of course. Of course you are. 746 00:41:25,594 --> 00:41:27,594 - More used to it than me. - No. 747 00:41:33,715 --> 00:41:34,895 Do you want to share 748 00:41:34,995 --> 00:41:37,115 - the byline with Amelia? - Her source helped confirm it. 749 00:41:38,155 --> 00:41:40,435 Needs something clearer. 750 00:41:41,595 --> 00:41:44,295 - News of the World targeted... - Illegally targeted. 751 00:41:44,395 --> 00:41:48,175 Good. Illegally targeted the missing schoolgirl Milly Dowler 752 00:41:48,275 --> 00:41:51,455 - and her family in dates... - Yup. 753 00:41:51,555 --> 00:41:54,576 ...interfering with the police investigation into... 754 00:41:54,676 --> 00:41:58,216 No, interfering with police inquiries 755 00:41:58,316 --> 00:42:02,416 into her disappearance and deleted messages. 756 00:42:02,516 --> 00:42:04,796 Then what the family believed, 757 00:42:06,196 --> 00:42:10,056 she's alive, the lie of that. 758 00:42:10,156 --> 00:42:12,056 Do we have a source and a secondary source? 759 00:42:12,156 --> 00:42:13,296 Yes, we do. 760 00:42:13,396 --> 00:42:17,037 - Have we spoken to Scotland Yard? - Of course. I even asked for a quote. 761 00:42:18,597 --> 00:42:22,237 This is quite something. 762 00:42:24,237 --> 00:42:28,457 Channel 4 News can tonight reveal that allegations have been aired 763 00:42:28,557 --> 00:42:30,577 that a Metropolitan Police detective 764 00:42:30,677 --> 00:42:33,858 was put under surveillance by the News of the World journalist 765 00:42:33,958 --> 00:42:35,978 and his personal details were targeted. 766 00:42:36,078 --> 00:42:39,858 The former Crimewatch presenter and Detective Jacqui Haimes 767 00:42:39,958 --> 00:42:41,958 has spoken out for the first time. 768 00:42:42,998 --> 00:42:46,178 So, Jacqui, you were approached by Operation Weeting. 769 00:42:46,278 --> 00:42:48,318 What did they show you? 770 00:42:50,198 --> 00:42:52,818 They showed me various sheets of paper, 771 00:42:52,918 --> 00:42:58,659 which I was told came from Glenn Mulcaire's diaries and notes 772 00:42:58,759 --> 00:43:01,939 and sat there and read 773 00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:04,959 the extent to which he had delved into my private life 774 00:43:05,999 --> 00:43:08,619 and it was quite a body blow. 775 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,659 I want to know who instigated the surveillance 776 00:43:11,759 --> 00:43:14,500 and the research that was done on us. 777 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,300 I would like to know how they got and who they got 778 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,920 that personal information from about us. 779 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:26,020 I would like to know what the purpose of it was from them. 780 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,300 Do you think there was an attempt, here, to interfere 781 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,200 with your ex-husband's criminal investigation, 782 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,641 and if so, what, where's the evidence for that? 783 00:43:37,201 --> 00:43:39,721 It's very difficult when you look at the um, 784 00:43:40,721 --> 00:43:44,001 the order in which things happened, the chronology of this, 785 00:43:45,441 --> 00:43:48,781 not to at least want to shine a light on it, and say, you know, 786 00:43:48,881 --> 00:43:52,061 how is it that the day after that appeal went out on Crimewatch, 787 00:43:52,161 --> 00:43:54,101 that this started to happen, 788 00:43:54,201 --> 00:43:56,942 and it's very difficult not to come to that conclusion 789 00:43:57,042 --> 00:43:59,422 that they were in somehow complicit in all this, 790 00:43:59,522 --> 00:44:01,782 or somebody within the organisation was. 791 00:44:01,882 --> 00:44:03,822 Complicit in what, exactly? 792 00:44:03,922 --> 00:44:08,642 In trying to discredit David, or myself. 793 00:45:25,486 --> 00:45:27,486 Of course, they didn't print it. 794 00:45:31,246 --> 00:45:37,347 And so it finally begins. 795 00:45:37,447 --> 00:45:38,587 More revelations... 796 00:45:38,687 --> 00:45:40,387 The pressure on the News of the World grows with... 797 00:45:40,487 --> 00:45:43,107 - Another day of dramatic development. - Shocking story. 798 00:45:43,207 --> 00:45:44,267 It is alleged 799 00:45:44,367 --> 00:45:46,747 - that Glenn Mulcaire... - Hacked into the mobile phone 800 00:45:46,847 --> 00:45:48,787 of the murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler. 801 00:45:48,887 --> 00:45:51,827 Well, this poor girl's dead and they're trying to get stories. 802 00:45:51,927 --> 00:45:54,307 There is a new allegation that the tabloid may have hacked 803 00:45:54,407 --> 00:45:57,508 into the phones of the relatives of soldiers killed in Iraq. 804 00:45:57,608 --> 00:46:00,908 If these actions are proved to have been verified, 805 00:46:01,008 --> 00:46:03,508 I'm appalled and find it quite disgusting. 806 00:46:03,608 --> 00:46:05,988 Tonight, Chief Executive Rebekah Brooks says, 807 00:46:06,088 --> 00:46:08,908 we're told, that she's shocked and that she knew nothing about it. 808 00:46:09,008 --> 00:46:11,508 Today is the anniversary of 7/7. 809 00:46:11,608 --> 00:46:13,668 Relatives of victims of the London bombings 810 00:46:13,768 --> 00:46:16,228 may also have had their phones hacked into. 811 00:46:16,328 --> 00:46:19,149 Somebody was listening to that. It's a violation, isn't it? 812 00:46:19,249 --> 00:46:21,709 An extraordinary moment in British journalism. 813 00:46:21,809 --> 00:46:23,749 The News of the World is to close. 814 00:46:23,849 --> 00:46:25,789 What happened, happened very, very quickly. 815 00:46:25,889 --> 00:46:27,829 It's like a bomb has hit the place. 816 00:46:27,929 --> 00:46:30,109 Those decent people up there have been thrown out of a job today. 817 00:46:30,209 --> 00:46:32,789 The sense that everyone gets is that Rupert Murdoch 818 00:46:32,889 --> 00:46:34,669 is getting rid of the News of the World 819 00:46:34,769 --> 00:46:37,709 in order to protect taking over BSkyB. 820 00:46:37,809 --> 00:46:41,630 I'm interested in those who were responsible being brought to justice. 821 00:46:41,730 --> 00:46:44,750 Scotland Yard confirmed today that it had received documents 822 00:46:44,850 --> 00:46:46,430 suggesting a number of its officers 823 00:46:46,530 --> 00:46:49,790 were given inappropriate payments by News International. 824 00:46:49,890 --> 00:46:53,230 Paying police for information is a criminal offence. 825 00:46:53,330 --> 00:46:55,390 It's corrupt, it's bribery. 826 00:46:55,490 --> 00:46:57,790 David Cameron's former head of communications 827 00:46:57,890 --> 00:47:00,511 is arrested over corruption and phone hacking. 828 00:47:00,611 --> 00:47:03,991 The decision to hire him was mine and I take full responsibility. 829 00:47:04,091 --> 00:47:06,231 There's an awful lot I'd like to say, but I can't. 830 00:47:06,331 --> 00:47:08,831 The pressure is mounting on Rebekah Brooks. 831 00:47:08,931 --> 00:47:12,911 Both her and James Murdoch should be leaving their desks. 832 00:47:13,011 --> 00:47:14,951 The Prime Minister has announced details 833 00:47:15,051 --> 00:47:17,991 of the independent public inquiry led by Lord Justice Leveson. 834 00:47:18,091 --> 00:47:20,632 Who will have the power to summon and question... 835 00:47:20,732 --> 00:47:24,472 Newspaper proprietors, journalists, police and politicians. 836 00:47:24,572 --> 00:47:26,632 I recognise the vital importance 837 00:47:26,732 --> 00:47:30,112 of reaching a number of conclusions, and I will strive to do so. 838 00:47:30,212 --> 00:47:33,352 Rebekah Brooks, who finally bowed to pressure and resigned. 839 00:47:33,452 --> 00:47:36,552 For the past 10 days, she's been at the heart of the storm. 840 00:47:36,652 --> 00:47:38,833 Now she has decided to step away. 841 00:47:38,933 --> 00:47:41,633 Assistant Commissioner John Yates has also quit. 842 00:47:41,733 --> 00:47:44,913 It is with great regret that I make this decision. 843 00:47:45,013 --> 00:47:47,313 The mighty Murdoch empire has suffered 844 00:47:47,413 --> 00:47:49,313 its most humiliating blow yet, 845 00:47:49,413 --> 00:47:53,113 as it suddenly dropped its bid to take control of BSkyB. 846 00:47:53,213 --> 00:47:56,233 Murdoch has abandoned his bid for BSkyB 847 00:47:56,333 --> 00:47:58,313 But will he face wider consequences 848 00:47:58,413 --> 00:48:00,794 in relation to the phone hacking scandal? 849 00:48:00,894 --> 00:48:03,774 What will come next in this shocking saga? 850 00:48:11,728 --> 00:48:14,266 And I heard, as it were, the noise of thunder, 851 00:48:16,346 --> 00:48:18,756 one of the four beasts saying, 852 00:48:19,535 --> 00:48:21,446 come and see. 853 00:48:22,135 --> 00:48:25,815 And I saw, and behold, 854 00:48:26,802 --> 00:48:28,955 a white horse. 855 00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:32,063 Sub extracted from file & improved by Se7enOfNin9 for addic7ed.com 69417

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