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Your Royal Highness.
So sorry, I didn't see you there.
- Service isn't till later. - Oh, no, no, I wasn't, um...
...uh, please, carry on.
Can I ask you a question?
Of course, Your Royal Highness.
You didn't happen to catch a...
...an interview I did last night on, um...
on television, did you?
- Interview? - Yes. On, uh, on Newsnight.
No, Your Royal Highness.
No, no, no. Right. Never mind.
Carry on.
Oh.
Yeah.
Forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
...now spectacularly backfired on Prince Andrew.
Many royal watchers are stating their disbelief
that he decided to do this interview in the first place.
- If the Prince and his advisors... - Jesus.
What?
It's everywhere.
I mean seriously, it's headlines all over the world.
Look.
Extraordinaire.
Reale britannico da Emily Maitlis.
Schweigender Prinz!
Wait, that's Japanese.
You're big in Japan. Fuck me, that's famous.
- Can I help with this? - No, you're shit at it.
Right.
- Big in Japan! - Whoo!
Oop.
Pug?
How long have you been here?
A while.
How... how... how was the shoot?
Who have you spoken to?
Her Majesty rang last night.
- She rang you at the shoot? - Yep.
Well, what did she say?
I'm to keep a low profile for the time being.
Just, you know...
...wait and see.
You watched, I assume?
Yeah.
And?
I thought you were wonderful.
Clear, honest, honourable, like you always are.
How are the girls?
Well, they'll be here later.
That bad was it?
Oh, no. You know what the press are like.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
It'll blow over. It... it always does.
But... you may need lawyers.
What?
Bea says she saw a report on the internet.
Apparently Virginia Giuffre is upset that you didn't apologise.
I did apologise.
No, darling, you didn't.
- Didn't I? - No.
Could have sworn that I did.
I... I... I... I'm just telling you what... what the girls told me.
They... say... she's coming after you... or something.
Yeah, the shoot was good.
Bagged a hundred birds.
Best shot of the day.
Yeah, I reckon that'd be a good time.
Thank you. Thank you.
Well done.
Speech.
Right, get back to work. Back to work.
Amanda, shall we?
I'm guessing you've seen the papers?
No regrets, no remorse.
That pretty much sums them up.
The queen is in shock.
I don't think I've ever seen her so upset.
However blind love may be, to wake up
and read headlines like this about your own child, that's...
...something I wouldn't wish on any mother.
- No. - The Duke of York is who he is.
Your job was to protect him from himself.
That you have spectacularly failed to do.
And, in the process, you have managed single-handedly
to threaten the survival of the monarchy.
I wa... I was...
- It was my job to support. - Your job, Amanda,
was to anticipate this shit show and stop it.
The royal family is unstable enough without one of them
being accused of kiddy fiddling.
No one is saying that Prince Andrew...
They may not say it, Amanda,
but the whole world is thinking it.
I told you explicitly to work with myself
and the other private secretaries,
but you ignored me.
And now, lo and behold, we find ourselves here
in a clusterfuck worthy of the Kardashians.
I'm afraid, you're going to need to step back.
We'll have you sign an NDA
and there'll be the usual severance package.
But as of Monday, you no longer work for the Duke of York.
Uh, does... does Prince Andrew know about this?
The decision comes from higher up.
Donal, would you show Amanda out, please?
Oh, shit.
What?
Uh, they've just sacked Amanda Thirsk.
- You're kidding? - Yeah, she's just texted.
ABC are early. We're on.
- Oh, shit, okay. - Alright, okay. Yeah.
- ...on the live stream... - Okay.
Wait.
- Okay, can we hang on? - ... nine, eight...
- Good? - No.
- ...seven, six... - ABC in five, four, three...
...two, one...
And now joining us is Emily Maitlis
from BBC Newsnight.
So, Emily, did you ever believe
that this story would blow up the way it has?
To be honest, no.
We knew it was important,
but we never anticipated this level of interest.
And that outfit, Emily, the... the military style jacket,
we are getting so much interest from our viewers about that.
Well, I just wanted to wear something I was
comfortable in.
I mean, I've worn that outfit a few times for a few interviews,
so, I guess it's kind of my lucky jacket.
Well, it was certainly lucky for you.
Now, tell us, Emily,
you've interviewed a lot of famous people in your time.
How did you find Prince Andrew?
His Royal Highness was incredibly candid with me.
I mean, you'll know this, but most people I interview
are frankly PR'd to death.
So, I really appreciated that unvarnished authenticity.
That's fascinating.
Tell us, Emily, how does it feel
to take down a member of the monarchy?
Daddy... bagged a hundred birds at yesterday's shoot.
- Best shot of the weekend. - Yeah, not much competition.
All the same, proud of you.
Ma'am.
Bea, what is it?
Sorry.
What's the matter, my love?
Bea?
I think I should call off the wedding.
No, no. No, absolutely not.
I'll not have this bloody stupid interview
- getting in the way of your plan. - Pups, wait!
Look, I know how much you wanted last night to work,
how much we all wanted it to work,
but the fact is they've twisted your words.
And now it's so much harder...
...for you, for all of us.
And now you're gonna be attacked even more.
And I hate that, and I hate that I was there and I...
Darling, this has nothing to do with you.
But it does.
Of course it does. I'm your daughter.
And the truth is, I... I thought it would be okay, and it wasn't.
It isn't. It's not okay.
And to think that my wedding would get in the way
of you defending yourself, and...
...I mean, fact is I... I... I just can't think about anything
other than what you said
and how it's blown up in our faces.
Anyway.
That's what I think.
Well, I think... this is a wonderful family
and I think we just need to stick together
and... be kind,
and remember that when push comes to shove,
nobody can tell us what we can and can't do
because at the end of the day,
we all just need to keep our chins up.
Please shut up. Just...
...shut up.
Most people I interview are frankly PR'd to death,
so, I really appreciated that unvarnished authenticity.
- Oh. - That's fascinating.
Tell us, Emily,
how does it feel to take down a member of the monarchy?
Well, I'm a journalist.
I just ask the questions.
Oh.
Darling.
We... we need to talk, uh, about lawyers.
Pug.
They've sacked my private secretary without consulting me.
She sent a text.
She's been told to keep away.
Amanda was very good to me.
They've summoned me to Balmoral.
When you... told Bea... about the firm,
you said you loved her...
...Eugenie, and your mother.
Why didn't you include me?
You've told me in private many times.
Or have you forgotten that too?
I was talking about family.
We're divorced.
I tried, you know, I... I just...
...I was trying not to sound guilty.
- Are you? - No! No, I... I told you. No.
His Royal Highness, Prince Andrew.
The Duke of York's now agreed to step down from all royal duties,
including military.
Losing Colonel of the Grenadier Guards
went down particularly badly.
Frankly, you couldn't make this shit up.
We need the media to do their bit.
I don't want to see any more headlines
like, 'His Royal Dryness', or 'Duke of Porkies'.
- I'll sort it. - Good.
'Cause if we don't tread very carefully,
you and I will be shovelling more shit than Dyno-Rod.
I need Prince Andrew off the map.
I also need the public to know that we take a clear position
ahead of any potential legal action by Giuffre.
Brief the usual press,
and emphasise the Prince's isolation.
The message is, the Duke of York has completely cut himself off
from his old life in order to focus on clearing his name.
And he accepts this new reality with dignity.
Your Royal Highness?
You call me Andrew now.
We have people to do the washing.
Yes, I can do it too.
Oh, thank you. Wow.
Thank you, thank you so much for this.
Um, gosh, I feel incredibly privileged
and overwhelmed, actually.
Um, sorry, yes, I wanna thank my incredible team at Newsnight,
Esme Wren, Stewart MacLean, Sam McAlister, and Jake Morris.
And to my husband, where are you? Mark?
Mark, thanks, thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Thanks for this.
- Em, congratulations. - Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah, well done. Don't mention the victims.
Em. You okay?
Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell
took the 17-year-old Virginia to London to party
with Prince Andrew.
Then we went to club Tramp, and he danced with me,
and... and he sweats a lot, and he smells funny.
Um, and then... and then we get in the car,
and, um, Ghislaine tells me in the car
that I have to do...
what I do for Jeffrey for Prince Andrew.
And that's when I learned what was going to happen.
That's great, thank you.
Now...
- Thanks for seeing me. - No, of course.
It's been a weird few weeks.
Yeah.
- Cheers. - Cheers.
So... how's Emily?
She's fine.
- Riding high. - Yeah.
Um, it's been a bit crazy, but, yeah, back to work.
I was sorry to hear about your...
I'll be fine.
There are other jobs. It's...
...it's Prince Andrew and his family that I'm worried about.
Yeah, yeah. I guess there...
...there are no great outcomes for anyone, really.
You've all done pretty well out of it.
I studied law, Stew.
I know how facts can be manipulated.
And Emily did a brilliant job of making the Prince look guilty.
Truth is, you have no proof that he slept with anyone underage
or you would've used it in the interview.
I mean, what if you're all wrong?
What if the Prince's worst crime
is that he's simply clumsy and misspoke?
I guess that's between him and his conscience.
Oh, you mean he should have apologised.
- It would have helped. - Of course, it would.
And he could have apologised.
He should never have depended on Epstein's money,
however much he needed it.
The man was a monster.
But does any of that
make him guilty of having sex with a minor?
'Cause that's what everyone assumes he did.
It's not even up for debate, right?
If he'd apologised, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
In what world does a non-apology equal guilt?
I mean, seriously, how can the man get a fair trial now?
Look at the press.
He's already guilty by association.
And now I hear Panorama are taking on the story.
Say what you like about how Emily conducted the interview.
She put no words in his mouth.
Oh, yeah, right.
Power without responsibility.
Thank you all for coming.
If I could get everyone to introduce themselves.
I'm Stephen Ferguson, barrister.
Uh, Sarah Ferguson, uh, no relation.
Duke's ex-wife and biggest fan.
Well, I'm, uh, Gary Bloxsome, solicitor and, uh, yeah.
Laura Mitcham, public relations officer.
And our associates, Noah, Arthur, and Cleo.
So, following Prince Andrew's Newsnight interview
with Emily Maitlis in November last year,
he received unwarranted negative press.
And we can assume Miss Giuffre's lawyers
are preparing to issue civil proceedings.
Our task is twofold.
One, to fight any attempt to extradite
His Royal Highness to America...
Wait... sorry, extradite?
What are you talking about?
There's a slim chance Miss Giuffre may try
and force you to face trial in America.
Are you joking me? I'm...
...I'm the second son of the Sovereign,
she can't do that.
Strictly speaking, from a legal standpoint, it is possible.
But obviously, that's what we're here to prevent.
And also, clearly, challenge any civil proceedings in the UK.
As part of that fight back, we're going to remind the public
of His Royal Highness's sense of public duty
and his loyalty to both Crown and country.
- Laura, do you want to...? - Yes, sure.
So, obviously the press is all a bit negative right now,
but we're gonna be countering that with a campaign
of public relations and, yeah, you know,
just a lot of positive stories.
You and your work.
Obviously not your old work, just anything you're doing now.
I'm not doing anything now.
Okay, thanks, Laura. It's early days.
We're still finding our feet,
but the main thing is we're on your team.
And we're going to get you through this.
Can I just say, Sir, what a huge fan I am of Pitch@Palace.
I know a couple of young entrepreneurs
whose lives have been transformed by what you did.
And all your amazing work with your charities
and... and the military. Just bloody brilliant.
There is no doubt in my mind, you are gonna get through this,
and we are gonna get you back where you belong.
Thank you... Gary.
You bet.
I just didn't expect it from royalty.
I didn't expect it from someone
that people look up to and admire,
you know, in the royal family.
When they got back to the house,
she says she asked Epstein
to take a picture to show her family.
She then carried out the instructions
to entertain the prince.
There was a bath, and it started there
and then it led into the bedroom, and...
...it didn't last very long, the whole entire procedure.
It was disgusting.
- Um... - Jesus.
...he wasn't mean or anything, but...
...he got up and he said thanks and walked out. And...
Are you guys watching Panorama?
Yep.
This is never gonna end.
What are you gonna do about the wedding?
G hislaine tells me I did a really good job,
- and she pats me on the back... - Bea?
Uh, I have to go. I'll call you in a bit.
We can't wait for this to stop.
This is not our problem.
And I'll support Daddy in every way that I can,
but this is not our problem.
... these c hains of deceit.
But these powerful people were my chains.
I didn't know what had happened and I just, I didn't...
I couldn't comprehend how, on the highest levels
of the government and powerful people were allowing this.
Oh God, don't tell me you're looking at porn.
No. No.
Give me that.
- Why are you reading this? - I just Googled your name.
You shouldn't be reading this. I'm serious, Milo.
You're my mum, why shouldn't I?
Anyway, why are they saying that stuff about you?
That's just words. It's fine.
Yeah, but why are they saying it?
Look...
I interview powerful people.
And sometimes when I ask them difficult questions,
their... followers or whatever, they get pissed off.
And are they right?
No.
I did an interview with Prince Andrew
that even Buckingham Palace admits was totally correct.
You haven't seen what else they say.
Yeah, well, I don't want to.
Some of them... are saying like
they're gonna come after you and shit.
Nobody's coming after me.
Your stalker did.
Oh, sorry.
No worries.
Okay.
Why are we doing this?
We're just gonna bag up goodies for the hospice.
While someone just happens to be filming us?
You don't think it looks a bit obvious?
No, because they're just gonna film us filling the bags up with goodies.
It's to show we care.
It looks like a fucking farmers' market.
You've never been to a farmer's market.
We're not actually delivering them, are we?
- No. - Because there's no way
I'm hugging some fucking OAP
in the middle of a pandemic.
Laura, can we get this over with?
Not ready, not yet.
Two seconds, please, Sir.
You know, I'm actually paying these clowns.
Be careful. They might be recording.
Yes, I don't actually give a shit.
Okay, so if you could just act like we're not here.
So, um, in your own time.
- Turnover. - Rolling.
And, action.
Thank you.
Try to look a bit more cheerful. Smile.
Please don't throw them in.
Andrew...
Don't, don't.
What the bloody hell is going on?
Laura thought the food parcels would be a good way...
I don't give a shit about the food parcels.
I mean my legal case.
I'm fighting for my life here, Stephen.
And all I can see is fucking PR stunts
and meetings about meetings about meetings.
Why isn't this over?
Honestly, Sir, I was moved by the food parcels
knowing that someone in a hospice somewhere
was gonna get to open those bags.
Take off your bloody masks.
You sound like the Muppets.
Your Royal Highness, the law will do what the law does.
But let me just say you are doing everything right.
I'm not doing anything, Gary.
With respect Sir, legal cases like this...
Don't with respect me!
You've had months to sort this shit out.
How is it even possible that some girl I can't even remember
has this much fucking power?
Sir, when you say 'girl'...
...in a way, yes.
But then again, uh, not in any sense.
I mean...
...not really a girl.
That word's, um...
...if I can be honest with you, Sir,
that's not a word...
...we... we wouldn't be encouraging you to use that... word.
Is that how solicitors make money?
Just taking forever to make a fucking point?
Sir, Giuffre's team are preparing
to issue civil proceedings
against you for battery.
Battery?
Rape.
Well, that is an outrageous accusation
- which I absolutely deny. - And we appreciate that, Sir.
But defending you against such accusations
is what we've been busy doing.
I'm going for a walk.
This week England faces yet another lockdown
as the prime minister struggles, in his own words,
to put Covid back in its box.
Meanwhile, in Denmark, a strain of the virus
has been discovered on a mink farm.
Experts believe it may have already spread to humans.
Okay.
Another virologist, Professor Lewis,
is gonna explain the structure of the virus.
- And... - I'll die of boredom.
...we might have a junior minister from Health,
but everyone's scared of you now, so...
Hmm.
You know, a couple of years ago
my stalker broke his injunction.
And it's sort of...
...it's my responsibility to then have to sort that out.
You see, the onus is on the victim.
The onus is on the person who has been stalked
to keep having to explain each time what's happened, and...
it's like bashing your head against a wall.
You don't believe it will ever stop?
No.
Do you genuinely think you'll have to live with this
for the rest of your life?
I don't... think about it.
You know, my way is complete denial.
Why are you listening to that?
Don't know.
Couldn't sleep.
Something about interviews.
Being interviewed, how much I hated it.
And talking about it, about him, even his name.
I know.
Because he blighted our lives, Mark.
You know, he sucked out the joy
and because it was just so... bloody boring.
He's in prison.
He'll likely be in prison for many years to come.
Not forever.
Well... we'll meet that when we come to it.
Em?
You know, I was listening... because I wanted to remember
how it felt to be interviewed about something
that wasn't my fault.
That what happened to Epstein's victims wasn't their fault.
Yet they still had to be witnessed.
They still had to, you know, parade their pain
in the hope of even the slightest justice.
And, yeah, I'm not saying what happened to me was even,
you know, remotely similar, of course, it wasn't.
But just the, you know, the parading,
the endless bloody talking about it
to get anyone to take it seriously.
- Do you remember that? - Yeah.
And that's true of every woman
who ever complained about any kind of harassment.
Always uphill, always against the tide.
Always a... battle against the unspoken.
You know, the look in their eye that says, you know, really?
Did he really?
You know...
...you know, when I sat down with Prince Andrew,
I was only ever hoping to ask the right questions.
I didn't know how he'd be, or what he'd say, but...
...it was the arrogance, the entitlement.
He just couldn't help himself.
You know, the way that...
...certain men, whatever their sickness...
...assume certain rights without giving it a second thought.
You know, their want, their need... their impulse.
And whether Prince Andrew was guilty or not,
it's just the way he was all he ever thought about
when he walked into a room.
That's it. That's, you know,
that's what's been bugging me.
Is it dodgy to say I'm knackered?
Maybe we can do a photo with the mother and father of the bride?
- Yeah, yeah, let's do that now. - Mummy.
Right, come on, come on. Get over the other side.
Yes, Mummy, you just go there.
Okay, that looks perfect.
Go closer, closer still.
That's great. Okay. Just check those.
Daddy, would you mind stepping aside just for this next?
We're gonna take an official picture with Granny and Grandpa.
Is that alright?
- No, no, no. Ab... absolutely. - Great.
Um... right.
- Mwah. - Uh, right.
If I could have Her Majesty and Prince Philip
to the bride's right.
Given the gravity of the implications
surrounding this scandal,
Her Majesty has now agreed to privately fund
the Duke of York's legal fees,
which means I will be needing regular updates.
If you don't mind.
Uh...
yesterday Giuffre's team filed suit against Prince Andrew
for sexual abuse under the Child Victims Act.
The plaintiff also claims she feared death
if she did not obey instructions.
Oh, Christ on a bike.
They still have two physically deliver court documents
to the Prince or one of his legal team.
Our aim is to slow that process down,
and in the meantime, continue building our case
against Giuffre.
Let me be clear...
we are now getting uncomfortably close
to the Jubilee.
I need a cast iron guarantee
that this case will be done and dusted.
No ifs or buts.
Can you absolutely guarantee to have this wrapped up
by January next year at the very latest?
A hundred percent.
We can win this.
And if you don't?
Sorry to bother you, Sir, there's a car downstairs.
We need to get you out of here as quickly as possible.
What's happening?
Uh, Miss Giuffre's legal team are about to serve you papers.
Serve me with papers, when?
The court papers, Sir, for the trial.
Your lawyers think it's of the utmost importance
you're not here to accept them.
If you'd follow me, Sir, there's a car downstairs.
- Where's the Duchess? - She's on a book tour, Sir.
Oh yes, of course.
The car's just past the main gate.
Please hurry along, Sir.
Your bags are in the boot,
including your favourite golf clubs.
I'll look after everything here, Sir.
Yeah.
The weirdest thing just happened to me.
Boris Johnson said he'll come on Newsnight?
No.
I ran into Princess Beatrice and Eugenie in the park.
Shit.
Well, did they say anything?
No, they just... stared at me.
What, like...?
- Like I'd really hurt them. - Oh.
I guess we were never gonna be their favourite people.
No, no, I know. I just, I don't know. I just...
...didn't expect to... feel... like I did.
Okay, so, I'm sorry for them, I am.
But at the end of the day, they are princesses living in London.
And they're not abuse victims in New York.
Don't know, I just...
you know, for what we did...
to really matter, it has to go to trial.
Mm.
To court, to a, you know, a proper trial.
Not a... just a one hour interviewers' entertainment.
What do you call it? Schadenfreude.
- Mm, I was joking, Emily. - No, but you weren't.
That's exactly what we are.
You know as well as I do that for most people,
me and Prince Andrew are the story,
not Epstein's victims.
You know, Emily Maitlis dismantles
a member of the royal family, blah, blah, blah.
And what do you want? 12 Angry Men?
For someone as powerful as him,
your interview is as tough as it gets.
But he still gets to go to Sandringham at Christmas
like nothing happened.
And it's fucked.
And whenever we try to get anyone
even remotely powerful on Newsnight...
Yeah, they all say no, โcause they're terrified
I'll do another Andrew on them.
Yeah, it's fucked.
Hm.
Well, on that note, I have to go meet another junior minister
from the Department of Work and Pensions.
Maybe he'll do an interview with you. No.
Sorry, Sir, uh, where are you going?
For a walk.
In our... private ground.
Right, Sir, uh...
it's just... we've been asked to make sure, you know,
while the Yanks are trying to serve you with legal papers,
you're not really here, Sir.
- They've asked that you don't... - Don't what?
Do... anything.
I fought in the Falklands.
I risked my life for queen and country.
If I want to go for a walk, I'll go for a fucking walk!
Princess Beatrice.
Sorry I'm late.
Sir Edward.
- Beatrice. - I'm representing my father.
You go to court in the States,
you're head to head with Giuffre's team.
These guys pull no punches.
They'll argue they served papers on Prince Andrew
by handing them to a police officer outside Royal Lodge.
They'll call witnesses to his night at Tramp.
They'll put his Royal Highness on the stand.
And sure, we can go after Giuffre,
say her lawsuit is baseless,
but you open this up to a Stateside court case,
you expose the Crown. No question.
So, what's the timeline on this?
Do we have any other legal options?
My father's calling.
Daddy.
I want to go to trial. I'm gonna clear my name.
Tell them that's not a request, it's an instruction.
- Go to trial. - Daddy, I...
My father is insisting we go to trial.
Morning, morning all.
Morning.
I'm leaving the BBC.
Uh, and not... not for a while yet.
Anyway, I just, you know...
...I just felt like, you know, I've done... 20 years here...
...and now is a good time to try something different.
But you're no good at anything else.
Well, I thought I'd try parenting, Stew.
Good for you.
- Mm. - Yeah.
Well, maybe... maybe I'm making a terrible mistake,
but I... I guess I won't know till I try it.
So, what now? Are we just,
just gonna stand around here really awkwardly?
No, no. No, look.
Anyway, look, I got you all a mug.
- Oh. - Right.
5.99 on Amazon.
Wow.
This is, um, extraordinary. Wow.
No expense spared.
Something to remember me by, hey.
Cheers.
Cheers. Cheers.
Well done. How are we going to do any work now?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Sarah.
I'd offer you tea...
but we've had to let the staff go.
Your Royal Highness, Beatrice, Eugenie.
Sir Edward.
There was something you wanted to tell me?
Ms Guiffre's legal team have agreed terms
for an out of court settlement.
After consulting with Her Majesty,
I'm instructed to inform you that as of today,
this case is now closed.
A statement has been prepared
and will be released...
...along with the announcement of the settlement.
How much are you paying her?
I am not at liberty to divulge the amount.
Understandably, Her Majesty and the Prince of Wales
are concerned to avoid any more negative publicity
as we approach the Queen's Platinum Jubilee.
If you don't let me fight...
I will forever look guilty.
I should be allowed to clear my name.
I'm afraid the time for fighting has passed, Sir.
There is simply too much at stake to risk further delay.
Well, actually, it's not for you to say.
You'll report back to my brother
and you'll tell him... I fight on.
Given the circumstances, the Queen also feels
it would be a distraction if you were to attend
her Jubilee celebrations.
We thought the least embarrassing excuse
would be Covid.
Where do I go?
Hmm? What do I do?
Tell me.
Wh... what do I do?
You live with the consequences of your actions, Sir.
It's a sea of people.
There's such a huge atmosphere.
Yes, here we are now.
The doors have opened and
there she is.
This is the moment we've all been waiting for.
When the whole country and the Commonwealth
say thank you to Her Majesty.
The crowd stretching back
as far as the eye can see...
So, if Virginia Roberts is watching this interview.
What is your message to her?
I don't... I don't have a message for her,
because I... I have to have a thick skin.
And if somebody's gonna make those sorts of allegations,
I have to have a thick skin, and I've just got to get on with it.
But they never happened.
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