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(# Orchestral version of ''Junk'')
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(Paul) 'Hello, how are you?'
(Mary) 'How do you do?'
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'Fine, thank you.'
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(# ''Oo You'')
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(Linda) 'I always was a lover of music.Whenever I liked people's music,
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'I ended up taking great pictures of them.
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'It was my fate.It totally changed my life. '
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(Paul) 'ln the early sixties, it was the music
and the groups that made that music.
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'She was like the rest of us. We were
infatuated with what was happening.
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'And suddenly, for the first time in our lives,
we were kind of important.'
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- How old were you then?
- What's so amusing?
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This is your father's history. Listen up, kid!
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(Man) ' Linda was asked duringan interview where she'd first met Paul. '
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(Linda) 'I met Paul at a club in London.The Bag O'Nails, to be exact. '
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l met your mum in May '67
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in a club in London called the Bag O' Nails.
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(Linda) 'Some other people satnot next to our table but the one beyond it.
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'And Paul of the Beatleswas with that group. '
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And the band was
Georgie Fame And The Blue Flames.
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'They were really hot. It was fabulous. '
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l looked over and saw her,
and l thought, ''Wow, she looks good!''
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'Our eyes met and it was one of them...We kept looking at each other. '
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l thought, ''Here goes nothing.''
l stood up.
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'He mingled over my wayand started talking. '
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l said, ''Oh hi, hello there.
My name's Paul. What's yours?''
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She said, ''Linda.''
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Did you learn a lot about her that night,
that she was a photographer?
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lt didn't get deep into what she was doing.
l knew she was a photographer.
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'I was the Fillmore East photographer.Many acts would play there constantly.
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'The Who,
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'Jimi Hendrix,
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'B B King...
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'I had no idea I wasphotographing future icons.
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'It was music and people that I loved.
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'Then I went to England to do a book -''Rock And Other Four Letter Words''.
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'When I was in London I tookmy portfolio to the Beatles' office.
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'And I said,''I'm desperate to photograph the Beatles. ''
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'A few days later the assistant said to me,''Brian loved your photos.
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''' He's having a press get-together for therelease of Sgt. Pepper. You can come. '''
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(Paul) 'She was one of the only people
who got in to the launch of Sgt. Pepper.'
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She took good pictures of the Beatles.
Me and John doing a ''Nice to meet you.''
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- Shaking hands.
- Nice picture.
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'One of the first things l noticed
was the way she held the camera.'
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She had a way with these
very long slender fingers.
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'A picture of me looking up at him,went out on the wires. '
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'That was the first photo taken of us.'
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American photographer Linda Eastman
seen chatting to Paul McCartney.
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'Then I went back to New York. I thought,''We'll never see each other again. '''
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She just kept coming back to me
in my mind.
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l thought she was great, she's special.
l keep thinking about her.
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'We hooked up in LA. l was there
for some record company thing.'
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'We met at the Beverly Hills Hoteland had a great time.
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'For a dirty weekend. '
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Mum's saying,
you went out for a ''dirty weekend''.
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Dirty weekend! She was very honest, see.
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(Paul) 'Somebody said,
''Do you want to come on my yacht?''
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'lt wasn't exactly a great yachting cruise.'
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lt was tacking endlessly
in these terrible little canals.
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l said, ''Oh my God, sorry about this.
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''l brought you on this not very cool cruise.''
She said, ''lt's OK.''
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'We talked about music, photography, art.
lt was a good thing we had in common.
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'And she had a daughter from
a previous marriage, who was Heather.
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'We'd always have something to talk about,
even if we were tacking to get out of LA.'
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'Then I got a phone call from Paul saying,''Why don't you come to England?''
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'They were doing the White Album.''Just come, just show up. ''
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'I said, ''How do I know you'll be there?Anyway, I'll think about it. '''
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At a certain age, you start to think,
''Wow, you know, l've got to get serious.
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''l can't just be a playboy all my life.''
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'And off I went to England.
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'So it all blossomed from that. '
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She'd always say about
the state of the place when she got there.
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lt was a bachelor pad.
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'I arrived at this house, this dark house.A bachelor kind of place.
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'A lot of browns, the TVbarely worked,nothing worked. '
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My fridge, you know,
had like half a bottle of sour milk,
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a little bit of dried cheese,
and nothing much else.
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And you know,
she was like 'Fridge Mama'.
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She was like, American fridge!
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(Linda) 'Paul came back early andplayed me ''Happiness Is A Warm Gun''.
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'That's what they were recording that night,the night that I arrived.
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'The Beatles were obviouslygoing through a bad time. '
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lt was getting near
the break-up of the Beatles.
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'Yoko was coming down the studio.
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'We didn't say much to John about it,
at the risk of offending him and Yoko.'
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We didn't say, ''What's she doing here?''
But we did kind of imply that,
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which made things a bit uncomfortable.
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And when she moved the bed in
to the middle of the recording area...
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- Are you serious?
- l am.
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lt was like, ''OK, we've got to roll
with the punches here.
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''This is a bed and she's lying down.
That's OK.''
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So it was like a happening, you know?
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# l wake up to the sound of music
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# Mother Mary comes to me... #
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'We were in the studio doing ''Let lt Be'',
and l had an idea for a harmony.'
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lt was on a high note
l was having trouble getting.
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So l suddenly thought,
''You're a girl. Can you get that note?''
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She said,
''l'm not a singer, but l'll just try it.''
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She held this note beautifully
which is at the top of the harmonies.
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# Let it be, let it be
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# Let it be
Yeah, let it be
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# Whisper words of wisdom... #
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The thing about the Beatles was,
it was this unit, like a square, like a box.
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And everybody was outside it -
girlfriends, wives, anybody,
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had always, traditionally just left us to it,
to go make our music.
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'And now it was a little bit different.
Quite a bit different.'
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(Linda) 'I was going through a transition.He didn't quite know what he was doing,
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'and I didn't know what I was doing.
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'But once we were walking past this signthat said, ''Buddhist Weddings''. '
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This little sign said, ''Come in and
have a Buddhist wedding. Get married.''
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And l just said, ''Do you fancy it?''
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'I was so newly not married,I didn't want to get married again.
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- 'I went, ''No. '''
- ''No.''
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l think she wanted
a little more time to consider it.
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'She'd say, ''Let's get out of London.
Let's go and get lost.'''
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l'd say, ''Excuse me? No.''
l'd want a destination and the route.
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She'd say, ''Just go down this street here.
lt'll be OK.''
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# You and me Sunday driving
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# Not arriving
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# On our way
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# Back home... #
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So l said, ''l'm really sorry.''
l was tired and apologised for that.
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She just turned and said, ''lt's allowed.''
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l remember thinking, ''Yes, l like that!''
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l'd take a guitar with me.
The song ''The Two Of Us'' was about that.
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The two of us
just heading out for nowhere.
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'Totally free. That was a good feeling.
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'During that period she did turn to me.'
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She said, ''l could make you a nice home.''
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l thought, ''What a great thing to say!''
No one had ever said that.
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(Crowd shouting)
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# Every day she takes a morning bath
She wets her hair
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# Wraps a towel around her
As she's heading for the bedroom chair
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# lt's just another day... ''
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(Paul) 'March 1 2, 1 969.
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'We went down
to Marylebone Registry Office.'
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# lt's just another day... #
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We said, ''Let's try and do it quietly
so that we don't have the press there.''
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When we got there, it was quite quiet.
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# lt's just another day
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# Doo, doo, doo, do-doo, doo... #
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'lt was a fun little wedding.
We giggled our way through it.'
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''Do you promise...''
(Stifled laugh)
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Mum was breaking up.
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John and George and Ringo
weren't at the wedding.
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No, maybe because of the tensions.
But it didn't seem important.
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lt was mainly the two of us
wanting to get married quietly.
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'But we came out... Wow!'
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l kept shouting back,
''She's with me!''
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(Man) Why are you girls crying?
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Why are you crying?
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l'm not sure if she was keen to get married.
l had to persuade her.
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'l had to say, ''No, it'll be OK.'''
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'When I married Paul,to them I was an American divorcee.
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'This unfashionable womanwho married a Beatle. '
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- What does it feel like to be married?- Fine, thank you.
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What are you going to do now?Is it going to change your life much?
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I don't know,I've never been married before.
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Mrs McCartney, congratulations.
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What does it feel like to have marriedone of the most eligible bachelors,
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- to be the envy of all the ladies?- It feels great to be married.
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- Did she know what she got herself into?
- l'll tell you what she wasn't ready for.
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lt was the sort of bitchiness.
''Who is this woman?''
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''He's marrying an American with a child.''
And l know it hurt.
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Fans used to write stuff
on the wall outside the house.
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To say it was not complimentary
was an understatement of the year.
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lt was really savage stuff.
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- She was pregnant with me then.
- With you?
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Actually, when you got married,
if you calculate it out...
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l know, it's true.
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# That would be something
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# lt really would be something... #
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When you were born was the first time
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l'd really seen magic
taking place in front of my eyes.
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You came out, big head of dark hair, and...
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...it was great!
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'That was very good, set against
the tension of the Beatles sessions.
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Your mum was a balance for all of that.'
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# To meet you in the falling rain, momma
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# To meet you in the falling rain #
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(Linda) 'I've titled this pictureThe Four Strangers.
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'This was during very tough times.
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'The pressure of businesshad taken over. '
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Quite soon after the wedding
you released a solo album.
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You wrote and recorded that at home,
in secret. lt was all done very secretly.
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Had you written the songs thinking
that they would be for a solo album?
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Some were Beatles songs that
we'd tried and maybe hadn't worked out.
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There was one called ''Teddy Boy'' that
l'd tried, but nobody had any patience.
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ln the earlier days we might have said,
''Why don't we try this?''
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But it was like, ''l'm fed up with this.''
So we never got around to doing it.
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So l thought, ''l'll do it on my own album.''
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# This is the story of a boy named Ted
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# And his mother said
''Ted, be good''
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# He would... #
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'l started recording because l love making
music so much, l just didn't want to stop.'
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# And she cried
''Oh, my''... #
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l had a four-track machine
in the living room, over in the corner.
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And l've got this very simple technique
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of just plugging in directly,
right into the back of the machine.
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lt's a really cool way to record. lt's so pure.
The sound, there's nothing purer.
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# Mummy, don't worry
Your Teddy boy's here
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# Teddy's gonna see you through... #
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l'd listen to it and think, ''There isn't
enough high hat, not enough cymbal.''
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# Then came the day
she found herself a man
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# Teddy turned and ran far away
OK #
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l like that primitive way of recording.
l did most of the album in that living room.
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'The back cover was the picture
of you as a baby in my jacket.
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'So cute!'
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l just had a little fragment
of a thing that l had written,
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l used to sing around the house.
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And l stuck it on to open the album.
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You can hear the door of the living room
squeak as we're recording.
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l think Mum walked through
as l was doing it. lt was like...
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# La-la-la, la, la,
The lovely Linda
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# With the lovely flowers in her hair
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# La-la-la, la, la
The lovely Linda
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# With the lovely flowers in her hair #
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lt was only a little bit,
but it was nice.
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'Towards the end of the Beatles,
troubles were arising from all directions.
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'We had a new business manager who
we thought would be the great new thing.
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'l couldn't stand him because he made
the whole thing even more oppressive.
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'So something that had been full
of artistic freedom was now a nightmare.
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'And l couldn't handle it.'
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He is obligated into Applefor a considerable number of years,
224
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so his disassociating himself with mehas really no effect.
225
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The other Beatles said,''We'll stay with Klein. ''
226
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And Paul found this inexplicable.
227
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A tragic end to the Beatles!
228
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- The press release was in the album.
- The ''McCartney'' album, yeah.
229
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This is the thing that he prepared
that went out to all the nationals.
230
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- It's not as bad as it seems.- He doesn't know whether it's permanent.
231
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- (Reporter) Is anybody going to read this?- No, this is the only statement.
232
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He'd had enough.
233
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'It'll probably be a rebirth for all of us. '
234
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'There won't be anything leftof the Beatles or anything!
235
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The Beatles will go on.
236
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Yes, they have to and they want to do it.They never argued about money.
237
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- Paul McCartney decided...- ...he wants to find out who he is,
238
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and whether he can dowhat he wants to do.
239
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There was no way we could continue.
240
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'That was probably the worst,
most difficult decision of my whole life.
241
00:17:38,904 --> 00:17:42,601
'l thought, ''l love these guys,
but l have got to get out of this.'''
242
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- Some think that you broke up the Beatles.
- Because l announced the break-up.
243
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lt had happened months before.
244
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And it was John quite categorically saying,
''l'm leaving the Beatles.''
245
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ln truth, it doesn't matter who did it.
The Beatles were ready to break up.
246
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# And every night that day is through
Oo, oo, oo-oo... #
247
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l nearly had a breakdown.
248
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The hurt of it all, and the disappointment.
249
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The sorrow of losing this great band,
these great friends.
250
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We had to get on.
We had to do something new, all of us.
251
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(Linda) '...this farmPaul had bought in Scotland...
252
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'He said, ''I know you won't like it,but let's go up there. ''
253
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'So it was sort of a...just get awayand go back to the beginning.
254
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'I believe definitelyin going by your own instincts. '
255
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# Man, we was lonely
256
00:19:22,441 --> 00:19:24,966
# Yes, we was lonely
257
00:19:25,077 --> 00:19:29,707
# And we was hard-pressed
to find a smile... #
258
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We decided the only thing to do
was to boycott Apple.
259
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To get out of there, not go to any meetings
that were such a headache.
260
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Just get out of there and come to Scotland.
So we did.
261
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We took the kids, took the dogs,
took everything we had.
262
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Put a guitar on top
and a potty for the baby.
263
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And that was it. We just came up here.
264
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We just... Newspapers eventually
called us ''recluses''.
265
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(Man) 'Are you dead?'
266
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(Paul) 'Yes, well, I can definitelydeny that rumour. Here and now. '
267
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# Man, we was lonely... #
268
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(Linda) 'People don't realise.For them it's just headlines.
269
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'But everybody starts bothering usand we come up here to be left alone. '
270
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lt really hit me. Very insecure,
very paranoid, very out of work.
271
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Very useless.
272
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'l was going crazy.'
273
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l wouldn't get up in the morning.
274
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And when l did,
l wouldn't shave or bother with anything.
275
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And l'd reach for the whiskey
as soon as l got up and stuff.
276
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So that was a path that was not going to be
a good one. l was going downhill.
277
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l'd read the musicals, the newspapers.
278
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And they'd have a bad article
about me, you know.
279
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''He broke up the Beatles'' or something.
And l'd go, ''Oh my God, no!''
280
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That sent me off on another bout.
281
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Had l been on my own,
l'm not sure l would have got out of it.
282
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But very luckily, Mum was there.
283
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She just said, ''You don't need to do this.
284
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''There's a way you can do your music.''
285
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She steered me in a good direction.
286
00:21:18,190 --> 00:21:20,818
l started to feel much better about myself.
287
00:21:21,627 --> 00:21:26,394
# Maybe l'm amazed
at the way you love me all the time
288
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# And maybe l'm afraid
of the way l love you
289
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# Maybe l'm amazed
at the way you pulled me out of time
290
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# You hung me on the line
291
00:21:42,648 --> 00:21:46,584
# Maybe l'm amazed
at the way l really need you...
292
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# Baby, l'm a man
293
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# Maybe l'm a lonely man
who's in the middle of something
294
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# That he doesn't really understand
295
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,992
# Baby, l'm a man
296
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# And maybe you're the only woman
who could ever help me
297
00:22:07,206 --> 00:22:10,369
# Baby, won't you help me
to understand... #
298
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'It's all the money I HAVEN'T,because I have these business troubles.
299
00:22:18,150 --> 00:22:22,553
'And at the momentI don't actually receive any money. '
300
00:22:22,688 --> 00:22:27,125
Mum had some savings from her
photography in New York.
301
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So we were able to live on that for a while.
302
00:22:31,797 --> 00:22:37,064
lt was a silly situation because you knew
with the Beatles' success, l had money.
303
00:22:37,202 --> 00:22:39,295
l just couldn't get at it.
304
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lt was all frozen,
receivership and all these legal things.
305
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So luckily we were living quite simply.
306
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ln a lumberyard.
307
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We were living in a lumberyard.
308
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lt was a bit of a tip. l never remembered
that until l saw the home movies.
309
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And l thought, ''What were we doing?''
310
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# Want a horse
l want a sheep
311
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# l wanna get me a good night's sleep
312
00:23:09,168 --> 00:23:13,229
# Living in a home
ln the heart of the country
313
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(Linda)'It was a three -room house with rats.
314
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'It was derelict,it was at the end of nowhere.
315
00:23:19,678 --> 00:23:21,908
'We had no hot water or anything.
316
00:23:22,047 --> 00:23:25,539
'But it was some of the best yearsof my life. And his life. '
317
00:23:25,684 --> 00:23:30,178
# Well, when l walk
When l walk
318
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:36,318
# Walk my horse upon a hill
When l walk my horse upon a hill... #
319
00:23:36,428 --> 00:23:39,955
(Man) 'Tell us about the farm.and your new life. '
320
00:23:40,065 --> 00:23:43,228
(Linda) 'It's just getting backto natural living.
321
00:23:43,368 --> 00:23:47,429
'We have horses and sheepand we plant our own vegetables.
322
00:23:47,573 --> 00:23:52,510
'And it's the only place we go towhere we can just be very natural,
323
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'in this unnatural world.
324
00:23:58,083 --> 00:24:00,278
'I've always been animal-crazy,
325
00:24:00,385 --> 00:24:04,481
'so I guess I sort ofintroduced animals to Paul.
326
00:24:04,590 --> 00:24:08,117
'He now has his own horseand he's a fantastic rider.
327
00:24:08,227 --> 00:24:14,564
'We herd the sheep and clip themourselves and take care of the place.
328
00:24:15,434 --> 00:24:19,461
'And it really is a matterof getting back into life again. '
329
00:24:20,038 --> 00:24:24,099
Money started to flow again,
somehow the Beatles things got cleared up.
330
00:24:24,243 --> 00:24:27,235
And it was really a question of
how to do music,
331
00:24:27,346 --> 00:24:29,746
without this band that l'd been in forever.
332
00:24:47,132 --> 00:24:50,226
When we were in bed,
would you come in here and jam with Mum?
333
00:24:50,369 --> 00:24:57,104
Yeah, we'd make sure everyone was fed,
happy and asleep, tuck you into bed.
334
00:24:57,242 --> 00:25:02,703
And we'd come here to do a bit of jamming,
playing, sometimes a bit of writing.
335
00:25:04,850 --> 00:25:09,844
'Up at the farm,
l'd had a little four-track studio put in there.'
336
00:25:10,155 --> 00:25:14,888
So l was able to demo and
experiment and make bits of music.
337
00:25:15,627 --> 00:25:18,494
'During that time l was painting the roof.'
338
00:25:18,597 --> 00:25:23,591
And Mum had bought the two first reggae
records that hit Britain, called Tighten Up.
339
00:25:23,735 --> 00:25:27,637
lt was great. lt was just
a really hot summertime thing.
340
00:25:28,407 --> 00:25:31,808
Reggae music and stuff.
So it made us think,
341
00:25:31,910 --> 00:25:34,640
''We should go to Jamaica.
Wouldn't that be great?''
342
00:25:38,517 --> 00:25:41,145
(Linda) 'Fantastic.They've got singles down there!
343
00:25:41,286 --> 00:25:45,723
'It's like the '50s .It's just fantastic music.
344
00:25:45,858 --> 00:25:48,122
'And it's so loose down there,
345
00:25:48,227 --> 00:25:51,355
'all the kids blast itlike in Montego Bay.
346
00:25:51,496 --> 00:25:53,623
'At every corner they're playing reggae.
347
00:25:53,765 --> 00:25:56,666
'I love reggae. My favourite. '
348
00:25:58,270 --> 00:26:01,797
'The whole reggae thing was
so free and young and new and fresh.'
349
00:26:01,907 --> 00:26:05,638
We came in the studio, and influenced
by that she wrote her first song,
350
00:26:05,777 --> 00:26:10,544
which was Seaside Woman.
lt was based on the Jamaican experience.
351
00:26:10,682 --> 00:26:15,551
# Oh, Papa, catch the fish
from the bottom of the sea
352
00:26:15,888 --> 00:26:22,316
'lt was nice to find a kind of girlfriend,
a wife, a mother of my kids,
353
00:26:22,427 --> 00:26:25,828
'who l could associate with
on a music level.'
354
00:26:27,933 --> 00:26:32,461
# l don't belong
My heart isn't strong
355
00:26:33,505 --> 00:26:36,269
# Don't belong
356
00:26:36,408 --> 00:26:38,774
(Linda harmonises song)
357
00:26:38,877 --> 00:26:43,075
# Never fear
The next time around
358
00:26:43,949 --> 00:26:46,144
# She'll be here #
359
00:26:47,452 --> 00:26:50,478
# Hey, didn't l want you back?
360
00:26:50,589 --> 00:26:53,149
# Didn't l want you back?
361
00:26:53,292 --> 00:26:58,355
# Hey, didn't l want you back?
Didn't l want you back? #
362
00:26:59,431 --> 00:27:01,729
'l remember sitting with Mum,
363
00:27:01,833 --> 00:27:04,996
'saying, ''Do you think it would be
a good idea to start something?'''
364
00:27:06,805 --> 00:27:10,605
We chatted it through and it was like,
''Yeah, keep going.''
365
00:27:11,810 --> 00:27:16,213
# Or is this the only thing
you want me for? #
366
00:27:29,761 --> 00:27:32,093
Ram. l've been listening to that a lot
367
00:27:32,197 --> 00:27:35,132
because in retrospect
it's an interesting album.
368
00:27:38,637 --> 00:27:42,767
'We thought, ''Let's make a change.
Let's go to New York.'''
369
00:27:42,874 --> 00:27:47,504
Good place, great musicians.
Let's get a different slant on everything.
370
00:27:47,646 --> 00:27:52,083
'So l held drum auditions, put the word out.
And drummers came around.
371
00:27:52,217 --> 00:27:55,709
'And Denny Seiwell was the best of those.
372
00:27:55,854 --> 00:27:58,652
'He'd been working as a session man,
373
00:27:58,757 --> 00:28:01,282
'and was a nice guy. We got on well.'
374
00:28:01,393 --> 00:28:05,762
So l started the Ram sessions with him.
375
00:28:10,402 --> 00:28:16,272
And having my best mate, my wife,
to sing along, was very comforting.
376
00:28:16,408 --> 00:28:19,935
# Ah, love is long
377
00:28:20,078 --> 00:28:22,410
# Love is long
378
00:28:22,914 --> 00:28:25,348
# Love is long
379
00:28:26,551 --> 00:28:31,113
# Ah, sing your song
380
00:28:31,490 --> 00:28:36,086
# Love is long
Love is long
381
00:28:36,194 --> 00:28:40,722
Did it feel at the time that you were
putting your new outlook to the test?
382
00:28:40,832 --> 00:28:43,665
You'd been doing harmonies and jamming.
383
00:28:43,802 --> 00:28:46,703
lt was really getting more professional.
384
00:28:46,838 --> 00:28:51,400
# And in the morning you bring to me
Love...
385
00:28:58,150 --> 00:29:02,644
(Linda) 'The headline was, ''Who doesLinda McCartney think she is?''
386
00:29:02,754 --> 00:29:06,349
'This whole thing about howI'm not fashionable. Paul's fashionable.
387
00:29:06,491 --> 00:29:10,325
'All this crap.I think you could get crushed.
388
00:29:10,429 --> 00:29:15,389
'Sticks and stones will break my bones,but words will break my heart.
389
00:29:15,534 --> 00:29:17,798
'So who listens?'
390
00:29:20,038 --> 00:29:23,201
We came back to England
and we were talking one night,
391
00:29:23,308 --> 00:29:26,903
and l said, ''Do you think
you could handle being in a band?''
392
00:29:27,045 --> 00:29:31,106
And Mum just thought about it
and said, ''l've never done it before.''
393
00:29:31,249 --> 00:29:34,707
l said, ''l know, but when the Beatles started,
we'd never done it before.''
394
00:29:34,853 --> 00:29:38,289
And l said, ''Can you imagine
standing behind a curtain,
395
00:29:38,390 --> 00:29:41,985
''and the curtains open, we're in a band,
and there's all people there?
396
00:29:42,127 --> 00:29:44,721
''How would you feel? Would it freak you,
397
00:29:44,830 --> 00:29:46,821
''or could you get into it?''
398
00:29:46,965 --> 00:29:49,160
She said, ''l could get into it.''
399
00:29:49,267 --> 00:29:52,600
So that was the basis. We said,
''Right, let's try it. Let's do it.''
400
00:29:52,737 --> 00:29:55,865
# Holding hands
We both abandon sorrow
401
00:29:56,975 --> 00:30:02,845
# Oh,
for a chance to get away tomorrow... #
402
00:30:12,357 --> 00:30:17,420
l suddenly realised that l didn't
actually know how to set up a band.
403
00:30:17,562 --> 00:30:23,728
l'd never actually done it before. l joined
the Beatles as an already set up affair.
404
00:30:24,769 --> 00:30:26,964
l had to think about how to do it.
405
00:30:27,072 --> 00:30:29,632
And in truth, l didn't have a clue.
406
00:30:29,774 --> 00:30:34,234
l didn't want to get together
a super-group of established names,
407
00:30:34,346 --> 00:30:36,814
which might have been the easiest option.
408
00:30:36,915 --> 00:30:41,784
l thought it would be better
to get hold of some like-minded musicians
409
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,548
who would enable us to grow together.
410
00:30:45,257 --> 00:30:48,590
We had Denny from New York,
Denny Seiwell.
411
00:30:48,727 --> 00:30:52,493
And l wanted another
male singer to sing along with.
412
00:30:52,597 --> 00:30:55,430
l think because l was
so used to it with John.
413
00:30:55,567 --> 00:30:58,161
l remembered Denny Laine
from the Moody Blues.
414
00:30:58,336 --> 00:31:02,966
We'd been on tour with them with the
Beatles. He was a good singer, nice guy.
415
00:31:03,074 --> 00:31:06,100
'So l called him up and he decided to join.
416
00:31:06,244 --> 00:31:09,543
'And he came to Scotland
and rehearsed with us.
417
00:31:09,681 --> 00:31:12,878
'That was it.
We started to put together a band,
418
00:31:12,984 --> 00:31:15,475
'and recorded the first Wings record.'
419
00:31:15,587 --> 00:31:21,321
# Wild life
(Wild life)
420
00:31:21,426 --> 00:31:23,758
# What's gonna happen to... #
421
00:31:26,865 --> 00:31:31,393
'I'm still just Paul McCartney.I'm just still some fellow
422
00:31:31,536 --> 00:31:34,266
'who wants to play,sing and have a good time.
423
00:31:34,406 --> 00:31:37,170
'So I'm going to make sure I can do it. '
424
00:31:39,211 --> 00:31:42,544
Wasn't Mum pregnant with Stella
during those recordings?
425
00:31:42,681 --> 00:31:46,139
- Yeah.
- So that whole family thing's intertwining.
426
00:31:46,284 --> 00:31:50,778
lt's like, ''We're starting a band,
we'll do an album'', and Mum's out here.
427
00:31:50,922 --> 00:31:53,584
lf she'd wanted to stop,
we would have said OK.
428
00:31:54,192 --> 00:31:56,717
'But it didn't come up.'
429
00:31:58,763 --> 00:32:03,462
There were still some complications
with the birth and everything.
430
00:32:03,602 --> 00:32:08,767
With Stella it was such a touch-and-go thing.
lt was a little bit of a drama.
431
00:32:08,873 --> 00:32:13,867
And so when the baby came along,
l was rather thankful for the whole thing.
432
00:32:14,012 --> 00:32:21,441
And l seem to remember one day l was
imagining angels' wings and things like that.
433
00:32:21,553 --> 00:32:25,148
And l thought,
''Well, that's a nice image - wings.''
434
00:32:25,290 --> 00:32:28,123
That's how it came about,
in King's College Hospital.
435
00:32:32,330 --> 00:32:35,629
(Man) 'In November, Paul and Lindaheld a launching party in London
436
00:32:35,767 --> 00:32:39,567
'to introduce their group Wingsand the LP Wings Wild Life. '
437
00:32:40,205 --> 00:32:43,265
- 'You had a big reception, didn't you?'- (Paul) 'We had a ball.
438
00:32:43,408 --> 00:32:47,003
'We had a big danceso we could get an evening out as well. '
439
00:32:47,112 --> 00:32:50,639
- 'Do you often have evenings out?'- 'Yes, we go to the pictures and that.
440
00:32:50,749 --> 00:32:52,808
'But we don't often go to a dance. '
441
00:32:53,752 --> 00:32:58,451
- 'So you had your own dance?'- 'Yes, down in London.
442
00:32:58,556 --> 00:33:02,754
'We invited a lot of peopleand danced all night. It was a good do!
443
00:33:16,374 --> 00:33:21,437
'At the moment, I decided, we've got totake the first step and just rehearse.
444
00:33:21,546 --> 00:33:25,505
'We've been doing this for a week,and it's already getting better
445
00:33:25,650 --> 00:33:28,642
'because we're beginningto play a bit tighter and better.
446
00:33:28,753 --> 00:33:32,985
'At the moment we've got a youngguitarist called Henry playing with us.
447
00:33:33,124 --> 00:33:37,686
'And, there's nothing really set yet,but he might come in. '
448
00:33:39,331 --> 00:33:41,822
You've recorded Wings Wild Life,
449
00:33:41,966 --> 00:33:45,060
released that, had a party,
launched the band,
450
00:33:45,203 --> 00:33:47,967
and now it's rehearsing to go on the road.
451
00:33:48,073 --> 00:33:53,909
Yes, we tried to learn all our stuff,
get the band together to get the feel of it.
452
00:33:54,045 --> 00:33:58,709
Some of our roadies
happened to know this guy called Henry
453
00:33:58,850 --> 00:34:03,048
who'd been in Joe Cocker's Greaseband.
They said, ''He's really good''.
454
00:34:03,154 --> 00:34:07,215
So he showed up to a rehearsal
and we got on well.
455
00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:11,420
'So he became the guitar player.
Mum on keyboard, me on bass.'
456
00:34:11,563 --> 00:34:14,031
That became the first line-up of Wings.
457
00:34:17,168 --> 00:34:20,069
(# ''The Mess'')
458
00:34:23,708 --> 00:34:28,202
'The idea of working with complete
strangers always used to terrify me.'
459
00:34:28,313 --> 00:34:33,046
You look to one side and go,
''Who the hell's that? Oh my God!''
460
00:34:33,151 --> 00:34:35,642
Shock yourself. What am l doing?
461
00:34:35,754 --> 00:34:39,485
# l asked the gin man with the big tattoo
462
00:34:39,991 --> 00:34:45,327
# lf he had seen any sign of you
He said, ''No''
463
00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:48,126
# l'm gonna break in two
464
00:34:48,233 --> 00:34:52,226
# Oh, sweet darlin'
What a mess l'm in
465
00:34:52,737 --> 00:34:56,070
# Oh, what a mess
Yeah, the mess l'm in... #
466
00:34:56,608 --> 00:35:01,272
'Paul wanted me to be in a band with him.I didn't really want to be in a band.
467
00:35:01,413 --> 00:35:05,816
'I said, ''I don't play anything.I love music, but I'm a photographer. ''
468
00:35:05,917 --> 00:35:08,977
'He said, ''Here's a middle C,you can play keyboard. '''
469
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,112
'She suddenly realised,
''What have l got myself into here?'''
470
00:35:12,257 --> 00:35:15,385
Suddenly being in this band
with Paul McCartney.
471
00:35:15,527 --> 00:35:18,360
- Crazy!
- That's what l would imagine.
472
00:35:18,496 --> 00:35:22,660
She would say yes because
she was enthusiastic and liked music.
473
00:35:22,801 --> 00:35:26,168
And then the reality
of what she was doing probably sunk in.
474
00:35:26,271 --> 00:35:28,466
And it's like, ''Am l kidding?''
475
00:35:28,606 --> 00:35:32,565
Well, that was part of the thrill of Wings.
476
00:35:32,677 --> 00:35:35,840
lt was a bit like
getting on a tightrope.
477
00:35:35,947 --> 00:35:40,316
# Oh, sweet darlin'For the mess I'm in... #
478
00:35:42,086 --> 00:35:46,455
'We've rehearsed. We could play live.We could easily play live. '
479
00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:00,160
We're going back to square one,
so we won't book a big tour or hotels.
480
00:36:00,305 --> 00:36:05,709
We'll just go in a van
with the band, the kids, the dogs.
481
00:36:05,844 --> 00:36:08,938
We'll all just take off up the motorway,
482
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,344
and we'll find somewhere to play.
483
00:36:11,483 --> 00:36:16,113
(Linda) 'We're used to travelling arounda lot with the kids and the dogs. '
484
00:36:16,254 --> 00:36:20,088
(Paul) 'For instance,when we leave here, we'll get in the van
485
00:36:20,191 --> 00:36:22,318
'and pick up a map. '
486
00:36:24,496 --> 00:36:28,364
We didn't tell the press.
We just went off on this secret tour.
487
00:36:28,466 --> 00:36:31,060
We drove north, up the M1 ,
488
00:36:32,370 --> 00:36:37,501
until we got near Nottingham,
a place called Ashby de la Zouch.
489
00:36:37,642 --> 00:36:39,667
We said, ''That sounds good.
490
00:36:39,811 --> 00:36:42,211
''Let's see if there's a university here.
491
00:36:42,313 --> 00:36:45,646
''Ask some students
if they want us to play for them at all.''
492
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:48,184
The nearest university was in Nottingham.
493
00:36:48,319 --> 00:36:51,482
Our roadie went out and said,
''We've got Paul McCartney in the van.
494
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:54,149
''Do you want him to play for you tonight?''
495
00:36:54,292 --> 00:36:58,524
The head of the students' union
was confused and dazed,
496
00:36:58,630 --> 00:37:01,565
'but took one look and said,
''Oh! Yeah, all right.'''
497
00:37:05,270 --> 00:37:09,434
'So that was all we did.
The first gig of our university tour.
498
00:37:10,808 --> 00:37:17,145
'And we've been doing that ever since.We've been to York, Hull, Newcastle,
499
00:37:17,282 --> 00:37:20,718
'Sheffield last night.It was just great. '
500
00:37:23,488 --> 00:37:25,479
'We were at Newcastle City Hall.'
501
00:37:25,590 --> 00:37:30,550
''We'd like to do a song called Wild Life.
One two three, one two three...''
502
00:37:30,695 --> 00:37:32,890
Nothing! Just silence.
503
00:37:32,997 --> 00:37:36,797
l sort of looked around,
and Linda's going...
504
00:37:36,935 --> 00:37:39,870
She said, ''l've forgotten the chords!''
505
00:37:40,004 --> 00:37:42,199
So l walk over.
506
00:37:42,307 --> 00:37:45,401
And then l go...
And l can't remember the bloody things.
507
00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:49,241
By this time the audience is rolling.
Loving it, you know.
508
00:37:49,347 --> 00:37:53,147
Suddenly she remembered,
and ''One, two, three...'' We went into it.
509
00:37:53,318 --> 00:37:57,652
The heart was beating fast.
We had quite a few moments like that.
510
00:37:58,723 --> 00:38:01,157
The tour was full of sheer panic.
511
00:38:01,292 --> 00:38:05,422
But it meant that there was
a good camaraderie,
512
00:38:05,563 --> 00:38:09,329
and it was building the relationships
between all the people in the band.
513
00:38:09,434 --> 00:38:12,631
And ready for our next step,
which was Europe.
514
00:38:20,645 --> 00:38:24,308
'We were on holiday,
trying to get healthy before the tour
515
00:38:24,449 --> 00:38:26,940
'because it's going to take it out of you.
516
00:38:27,085 --> 00:38:31,078
'But we thought, if we're going to be
in Europe in the summer,
517
00:38:31,189 --> 00:38:33,953
'going to places like
the south of France,
518
00:38:34,092 --> 00:38:38,222
'it's just silly to be in some
little box all day, gasping for air.
519
00:38:38,363 --> 00:38:42,857
'So we came up with this idea
to have an open deck, an upper deck.
520
00:38:43,001 --> 00:38:46,164
'We got some mattresses up there,
so we can just cruise along.
521
00:38:46,904 --> 00:38:51,238
'Fantastic! lt's great to just lie around
and get the sun.
522
00:38:51,376 --> 00:38:54,641
'Get healthy, man, on tour!
Can't be bad.'
523
00:38:57,248 --> 00:38:59,808
(Announcer) '...from England, Wings!'
524
00:39:27,145 --> 00:39:31,912
(Paul) 'We're doing a European thingto play the band in. It's a new band.
525
00:39:32,050 --> 00:39:37,545
'And if you play Britain or Americawith a very new band, you're on the spot.
526
00:39:37,689 --> 00:39:43,491
'You've got to be red hot. And it takesa little time for a band to get red hot.
527
00:39:43,594 --> 00:39:48,759
'It's almost like living together for a while,bouncing off each other and stuff.
528
00:39:48,866 --> 00:39:52,597
'This is what we're learning to doon this tour.
529
00:39:52,737 --> 00:39:57,106
'At the expense, I suppose,of the Europeans. '
530
00:40:03,681 --> 00:40:06,741
(Man) 'Do you find it a great strainworking with someone like Paul?
531
00:40:06,884 --> 00:40:11,651
- 'I know it's your husband. '- 'Easy. Really, I find it very easy.
532
00:40:11,756 --> 00:40:13,747
'Totally. I'm just still learning.
533
00:40:14,492 --> 00:40:19,623
'But it's fun. It's like life, you know.It's just another thing in life. '
534
00:40:19,764 --> 00:40:23,393
People would say
why is his old lady up there?
535
00:40:23,534 --> 00:40:26,662
A gutsy thing to do because
she didn't have your experience.
536
00:40:26,804 --> 00:40:30,797
lt was a very gutsy thing to do.
She had the courage to do it.
537
00:40:30,908 --> 00:40:34,207
Once or twice we thought,
''Oh my God, what have we bitten off!''
538
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,046
(Linda) 'I was nervous the first half.
539
00:40:38,149 --> 00:40:43,052
'We had no sound check, no rehearsal,no nothing. We had to go on cold.
540
00:40:43,154 --> 00:40:47,784
'So I had to warm up a bit.We were very hot the second half. '
541
00:41:01,305 --> 00:41:07,107
As he left the court, McCartney said,''The judge is a great guy. ''
542
00:41:07,245 --> 00:41:10,737
'McCartney's counsel admittedhe had knowingly grown the plants,
543
00:41:10,882 --> 00:41:13,077
'but had not known what they were. '
544
00:41:13,217 --> 00:41:17,119
The cannabis seeds had been plantedat his farm, four miles from here.
545
00:41:17,255 --> 00:41:21,817
Those seeds had been sent to you.How did you come to grow them?
546
00:41:21,959 --> 00:41:24,985
Yeah, well, we got a load of seeds,kind of in the post.
547
00:41:25,129 --> 00:41:28,223
We didn't know what they were.We planted them,
548
00:41:28,366 --> 00:41:32,063
and five of them came up like...five of them came up illegal.
549
00:41:32,203 --> 00:41:35,263
Now this conviction might affectyour entry to the States,
550
00:41:35,406 --> 00:41:38,068
where you have considerablebusiness interests.
551
00:41:38,209 --> 00:41:40,871
- Yes.- How do you feel about that?
552
00:41:41,012 --> 00:41:44,846
I understand I mightnot get stopped from going to the States
553
00:41:44,949 --> 00:41:49,648
because it's a technical offence.I hope not, anyway.
554
00:41:49,754 --> 00:41:55,021
# We're gonna get high, high, high
With the music on... #
555
00:41:55,326 --> 00:42:00,093
Looking back on it now,
l have a completely different perspective.
556
00:42:00,198 --> 00:42:02,462
lt's not that cool.
557
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,660
The truth of the matter was
that the drug scene...
558
00:42:05,803 --> 00:42:09,796
For that sort of small time
it all seemed to us quite harmless.
559
00:42:09,907 --> 00:42:14,867
We thought, we've all got it under control,
so many of our friends are doing it.
560
00:42:15,012 --> 00:42:20,973
So a song like ''Hi Hi Hi'' seemed like
a perfectly harmless rock'n'roll song.
561
00:42:21,118 --> 00:42:25,851
But because we're going to get high,
the BBC said, ''We're not playing that.''
562
00:42:25,957 --> 00:42:29,552
So they banned it.
Of course that made it more popular.
563
00:42:34,866 --> 00:42:36,834
# High, high, high
564
00:42:37,435 --> 00:42:39,869
# High, high, high
565
00:42:40,004 --> 00:42:43,667
# High, high, high
ln the mid-day sun
566
00:42:49,914 --> 00:42:53,213
(# ''Live And Let Die'' plays in background)
567
00:42:53,584 --> 00:42:57,782
'I go to a film to hear the soundtrack.The picture becomes the background.
568
00:42:57,922 --> 00:43:00,755
'They just filmed the backgroundto music I wrote -
569
00:43:00,892 --> 00:43:04,020
'the new James Bond filmLive And Let Die. '
570
00:43:04,161 --> 00:43:09,656
You and Mum performed ''Live And
Let Die''. How did that come about?
571
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,791
- l don't know.
- Yeah, you do.
572
00:43:11,936 --> 00:43:14,234
- Eh?
- Kick you with my heels.
573
00:43:14,372 --> 00:43:17,170
- Don't!
- Live And Let Die.
574
00:43:17,275 --> 00:43:21,712
Yeah. l heard that they were making
the new James Bond film.
575
00:43:21,846 --> 00:43:25,907
And one of those things,
if you're the kind of writer l am, is...
576
00:43:26,050 --> 00:43:30,453
it's always one of those little ambitions -
do the Bond song.
577
00:43:30,554 --> 00:43:34,820
And l got the fairly straightforward idea of
578
00:43:34,959 --> 00:43:37,894
''live and let die'' - OK, ''live and let live.''
579
00:43:37,995 --> 00:43:41,590
So, ''When you were young
And your heart was an open book
580
00:43:41,732 --> 00:43:44,394
''You used to say live and let live''...
581
00:43:45,736 --> 00:43:49,672
# You know you did
You know you did, you know you did
582
00:43:49,807 --> 00:43:55,439
# But in this ever-changing world
ln which we live in
583
00:43:55,913 --> 00:44:00,475
# Makes you give in and cry
584
00:44:02,787 --> 00:44:04,982
# Live and let die
585
00:44:07,992 --> 00:44:10,517
# Live and let die
586
00:44:11,963 --> 00:44:14,523
# Live and let die
587
00:44:15,766 --> 00:44:18,166
# Live and let die... #
588
00:44:24,041 --> 00:44:27,841
'So we did that,
made the record, finished it...'
589
00:44:27,945 --> 00:44:32,507
Mum wrote the middle bit -
''...matter to you''
590
00:44:35,086 --> 00:44:37,577
That's a little reggae bit in the middle.
591
00:44:37,722 --> 00:44:41,180
# When you got a job to do
You gotta do it well
592
00:44:41,325 --> 00:44:46,319
# You've got to give the other fella hell... #
593
00:44:48,165 --> 00:44:52,363
And they took it out to where
they were filming, in the Caribbean.
594
00:44:52,470 --> 00:44:55,769
And the guys listened to it and said,
''That's OK for the demo.
595
00:44:55,873 --> 00:44:59,570
''When are you going
to make the real record?''
596
00:44:59,677 --> 00:45:01,406
''This is it!''
597
00:45:20,231 --> 00:45:23,564
(Linda) 'The real problems for me areseeing enough of the children.
598
00:45:23,667 --> 00:45:28,502
'I don't want other people to influencethem. I want them to have a normal life.
599
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:30,834
'So we get home tired,
600
00:45:30,975 --> 00:45:35,935
'and get up early to be with the kidsand keep them under our wings.
601
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,913
(# ''Little Lamb Dragonfly'')
602
00:45:42,787 --> 00:45:44,914
'Sometimes you're working all day,
603
00:45:45,056 --> 00:45:49,186
'and if you hadn't been workingwith your husband, he'd come home tired,
604
00:45:49,326 --> 00:45:54,025
'and you could build up his morale.But sometimes we're both exhausted.
605
00:45:54,165 --> 00:45:56,156
'It's better like this than not!'
606
00:45:56,267 --> 00:46:00,704
# l can help you out
But l cannot help you in... #
607
00:46:03,908 --> 00:46:08,607
'Looking back on it, it feels like it was easy,
but l don't think it was.'
608
00:46:08,712 --> 00:46:12,239
You tend to forget
the bad and the difficult moments.
609
00:46:12,349 --> 00:46:16,251
lt was not always a laugh
and always a bundle of fun.
610
00:46:16,353 --> 00:46:22,155
The pressures of bringing the band on tour,
if any of you kids ever got ill...
611
00:46:22,293 --> 00:46:25,023
lt certainly got hard from time to time.
612
00:46:25,162 --> 00:46:28,393
And it would be a strain
on our relationship.
613
00:46:28,532 --> 00:46:32,662
But what isn't a strain on relationships?
You find any couple...
614
00:46:32,803 --> 00:46:36,830
l don't think there is any such thing
as an ideal couple.
615
00:46:36,974 --> 00:46:40,171
(Linda) 'We like the same things,we're committed, but it is...
616
00:46:40,277 --> 00:46:45,874
'Relationships are the hardest thinggoing in life. You have to work on it.
617
00:46:46,016 --> 00:46:51,477
'We both work on it, and have a laughor argue. We always end up in a laugh.
618
00:47:13,110 --> 00:47:18,707
'Now that I really do know chords andI do have a feel for music, I really love it.
619
00:47:20,718 --> 00:47:24,711
'I've got so much pleasure out of it now.When you don't know anything,
620
00:47:24,855 --> 00:47:27,688
'you can't really get pleasure out of it.
621
00:47:29,293 --> 00:47:31,989
'It was such a contrastto what people expected,
622
00:47:32,129 --> 00:47:34,927
'I can almost see why they put me down. '
623
00:47:35,032 --> 00:47:40,129
(Woman) You, more than the other bandmembers, get a lot of stick from the press.
624
00:47:40,237 --> 00:47:42,205
How do you react to this?
625
00:47:42,373 --> 00:47:45,865
I think it's getting better.It was justified at first.
626
00:47:46,010 --> 00:47:50,470
I didn't have any training.I was learning piano when we first started.
627
00:47:50,614 --> 00:47:54,880
- (Paul) Hello!- But now that I'm...I like it.
628
00:47:54,985 --> 00:47:59,479
And I'm getting better at it.So I don't think they'll get me so much.
629
00:47:59,590 --> 00:48:03,424
Would you get defensive about people
saying those things about her?
630
00:48:03,561 --> 00:48:05,722
Oh yeah, sure.
631
00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:10,323
You know, the way we thought of it,
we were in it for fun.
632
00:48:10,434 --> 00:48:13,232
lt was music.
This was not nuclear science.
633
00:48:13,370 --> 00:48:18,865
lt was not like we were making
the atomic bomb in Los Alamos.
634
00:48:19,009 --> 00:48:21,477
Nothing... The world didn't depend on it.
635
00:48:21,612 --> 00:48:26,106
lt was just something we wanted to do.
So if we got it wrong, all right.
636
00:48:26,250 --> 00:48:28,275
Big deal! Take it out of there!
637
00:48:37,928 --> 00:48:40,396
We don't have to justify ourselves.
638
00:48:40,531 --> 00:48:43,659
And she knew a lot of it was
critics needing to fill space.
639
00:48:43,801 --> 00:48:48,636
- That's what they do.
- She'd also have it on the way she dressed,
640
00:48:48,772 --> 00:48:52,572
- or whether she shaved her legs.
- She got it on everything.
641
00:48:52,676 --> 00:48:55,110
She was pretty cute about all that.
642
00:48:55,246 --> 00:48:59,205
She just liked to be different,
and to do stuff for fun.
643
00:48:59,316 --> 00:49:03,776
So she bought these Argyll socks.
644
00:49:03,921 --> 00:49:07,152
And obviously they matched.
Two socks.
645
00:49:07,291 --> 00:49:09,919
But she'd wear ones that didn't match.
646
00:49:10,027 --> 00:49:14,464
She'd wear one Stewart tartan
and one McPherson tartan.
647
00:49:14,598 --> 00:49:20,036
And people would say, ''She's wearing
Argyll socks that don't match.''
648
00:49:20,170 --> 00:49:23,697
And we were saying,
''Do you think they think she doesn't know?''
649
00:49:23,841 --> 00:49:26,833
Most of the styles that she wore then
have come back now.
650
00:49:26,977 --> 00:49:31,141
ln fact l think, Stella admits
that a lot of her designs
651
00:49:31,282 --> 00:49:34,774
are memories of Mum's things.
652
00:49:34,918 --> 00:49:38,081
What about ''My Love''?
What inspired you to write ''My Love''?
653
00:49:38,989 --> 00:49:42,481
What inspired me to write ''My Love''
was your mummy.
654
00:49:42,593 --> 00:49:46,085
# And when l go away
655
00:49:47,164 --> 00:49:50,224
# l know my heart can stay
with my love... #
656
00:49:50,367 --> 00:49:55,669
We'd been together a while and were
having a great time. We were very in love.
657
00:49:55,806 --> 00:49:59,765
And l sat down at the piano.
658
00:49:59,877 --> 00:50:03,335
And l was thinking about Mum,
our thing, you know.
659
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,415
lt just came out. lt was a love song to her.
660
00:50:08,852 --> 00:50:13,983
# And my love does it good
661
00:50:16,093 --> 00:50:19,324
# Woh, woh-woh, woh
662
00:50:20,030 --> 00:50:24,023
# Woh, woh-woh, wohhh
663
00:50:25,002 --> 00:50:29,803
# My love does it good... #
664
00:50:29,907 --> 00:50:34,435
Just before the take, Henry McCullough,
the guitarist, came over to me.
665
00:50:34,545 --> 00:50:39,539
And he whispered in my ear, ''Do you mind
if l try something different on the solo?''
666
00:50:46,924 --> 00:50:50,758
'And he did this great solo out of nowhere.'
667
00:51:04,641 --> 00:51:08,008
# Woh, woh-woh, woh
668
00:51:08,712 --> 00:51:12,239
# Woh, woh-woh, wohhh #
669
00:51:12,416 --> 00:51:15,715
And so you've recorded
''My Love'' with Henry.
670
00:51:15,853 --> 00:51:18,720
And you've still got
Denny Seiwell as drummer.
671
00:51:18,856 --> 00:51:23,190
But then they left the band.
Can you tell me how that came about?
672
00:51:23,327 --> 00:51:26,626
l was looking for somewhere exciting
to record the next album.
673
00:51:26,764 --> 00:51:31,463
l thought, a good idea would be
to get a list off EMl, our record company,
674
00:51:31,602 --> 00:51:34,162
of all the studios
they had around the world.
675
00:51:34,271 --> 00:51:37,604
lt turned out they had one in Africa.
We said, ''Yeah, let's go to Africa!''
676
00:51:38,308 --> 00:51:43,109
The night before we were due to go,
Denny and Henry rang up and said,
677
00:51:43,247 --> 00:51:47,115
''We're not coming to Africa.
We're leaving the band.''
678
00:51:47,251 --> 00:51:52,154
l said, ''Oh, great. Thank you.
God, here we go again.''
679
00:51:52,289 --> 00:51:55,781
At first it was like,
''Oh no, tragedy.''
680
00:51:55,926 --> 00:52:00,022
But then l thought, ''We're going to go,
and we're going to show you!
681
00:52:00,130 --> 00:52:02,758
''We're going to make
the best album ever.''
682
00:52:09,072 --> 00:52:11,836
'So we did.
We went to Lagos, as planned.
683
00:52:16,914 --> 00:52:22,375
'Just the three of us, no drummer,
no guitar player. Denny, me, and Linda.
684
00:52:23,086 --> 00:52:27,785
'l thought it was going to be in gorgeous
Africa. African music, African culture.'
685
00:52:27,925 --> 00:52:31,554
But it was like monsoon season.
The studio wasn't built.
686
00:52:33,764 --> 00:52:36,597
# Said farewell to my last hotel
687
00:52:36,733 --> 00:52:39,201
# lt never was much kind of abode... #
688
00:52:39,436 --> 00:52:44,100
'We'd gone there to be in what we had
thought would be a cool place to record.
689
00:52:44,241 --> 00:52:47,176
'But we had a dangerous time making it.'
690
00:52:47,277 --> 00:52:51,043
There was a local guy
called Fela Ranson Kuti,
691
00:52:51,148 --> 00:52:54,345
who was a really cool musician.
He was the local top guy.
692
00:52:54,485 --> 00:52:56,783
He showed up at the studio one day.
693
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,755
He said, ''You have come here,
westerners, to steal our music!''
694
00:53:01,892 --> 00:53:05,794
So l played him a few tracks and said,
''ls this stealing your music?''
695
00:53:05,929 --> 00:53:10,025
# Band on the run... #
696
00:53:11,268 --> 00:53:13,828
'He said, ''OK, l see
you're not doing that.'''
697
00:53:13,971 --> 00:53:20,308
lt was going to become a bit dangerous
because he was quite a voice in Lagos.
698
00:53:20,577 --> 00:53:25,037
'Another thing was, Mum and l
walking back, and a car came up.'
699
00:53:25,148 --> 00:53:28,140
And suddenly all the doors opened,
and five guys get out.
700
00:53:29,286 --> 00:53:32,084
And they've got knives.
Linda's screaming,
701
00:53:32,189 --> 00:53:35,181
''What do you want?
Leave him alone! He's a musician!
702
00:53:35,325 --> 00:53:38,726
''Cameras, yeah, take 'em,
you can have 'em!''
703
00:53:38,829 --> 00:53:43,027
All the stuff l'd written was
on one of the cassettes. But they took that.
704
00:53:43,166 --> 00:53:46,158
We always figured that
they probably recorded over it.
705
00:53:46,270 --> 00:53:49,762
You know,
''Let's get some decent music on here!''
706
00:53:51,008 --> 00:53:53,101
# Shake it
707
00:53:57,447 --> 00:54:00,883
# Ah, now
Shake it, don't break it... #
708
00:54:05,522 --> 00:54:08,423
'''Hello, Mr Coburn? l've got this record.
709
00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:13,792
'''And it's this sort of cover, and it's a band
on the run, and what do you say?''
710
00:54:15,032 --> 00:54:17,660
'lt was Linda l think who suddenly thought,
711
00:54:17,801 --> 00:54:20,964
'''lf you're going to have a bunch of people,
instead of having models,
712
00:54:21,071 --> 00:54:24,768
'''wouldn't it be great if each one
was a face you'd recognise?''
713
00:54:24,875 --> 00:54:27,435
'And you'd go, ''Oh, it's him!'''
714
00:54:41,558 --> 00:54:45,119
When we got back, l saw a letter that said,
715
00:54:45,228 --> 00:54:48,356
''Don't, under any conditions, go to Lagos.
716
00:54:48,465 --> 00:54:51,923
''Cancel!
There's been an outbreak of cholera.''
717
00:54:52,035 --> 00:54:55,266
(# ''Jet'')
718
00:55:00,210 --> 00:55:02,906
- lt was you, Mum and Denny again.
- Yes.
719
00:55:03,046 --> 00:55:07,915
You needed to get a band together.
How did you go about that?
720
00:55:08,051 --> 00:55:11,509
We did our usual thing
of holding some drum auditions.
721
00:55:11,655 --> 00:55:14,488
'Out of them we picked
a guy called Geoff Britton,
722
00:55:14,591 --> 00:55:17,424
'who was a good rock'n'roll drummer.'
723
00:55:19,763 --> 00:55:22,323
# Ah, mater... #
724
00:55:22,432 --> 00:55:26,061
'Then l'd seen a guitar player
who was a very young guy.
725
00:55:26,203 --> 00:55:31,266
'He'd been with Thunderclap Newman
that Pete Townshend had put together.
726
00:55:31,408 --> 00:55:34,639
'This was Jimmy McCulloch.
He was a young whizz kid.'
727
00:55:34,745 --> 00:55:40,877
So he became our guitarist so it was now
me, Denny, Linda, Jimmy, and Geoff.
728
00:55:40,984 --> 00:55:44,750
# Somewhere to the south
of New York City
729
00:55:47,124 --> 00:55:50,491
# Lies the friendly state of Tennessee... #
730
00:55:50,594 --> 00:55:54,360
'So we went to Nashville.
lt was really to get the band broken in.
731
00:55:54,464 --> 00:55:58,764
'And then, once we had rehearsed
the band, to make a record.'
732
00:56:00,270 --> 00:56:03,899
# Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go
733
00:56:04,041 --> 00:56:07,636
# Down to Junior's farm
Where l want to lay low
734
00:56:07,744 --> 00:56:11,202
# Low life, high life
Oh, let's go
735
00:56:11,314 --> 00:56:15,512
# Take me down to Junior's farm
Take me down, Jimmy
736
00:56:30,067 --> 00:56:32,831
# At the Houses of Parliament... #
737
00:56:34,671 --> 00:56:40,109
(Mary) 'Geoff Britton didn't last very long.'
(Paul) 'Why didn't Geoff last too long?'
738
00:56:40,243 --> 00:56:44,543
lt's like in the Beatles we had Pete Best,
who was a really good drummer.
739
00:56:44,681 --> 00:56:49,448
But there was something.
He wasn't quite like the rest of us.
740
00:56:49,553 --> 00:56:54,616
We had a sense of humour in common,
and he was nearly in with it all.
741
00:56:54,758 --> 00:56:59,286
But it's a fine line, as to what is exactly in
and what is nearly in.
742
00:56:59,996 --> 00:57:04,990
So he left the band, and we were
looking around for someone who would fit.
743
00:57:05,635 --> 00:57:09,162
'And it turned out to be Joe English,
a very interesting drummer.
744
00:57:09,272 --> 00:57:11,706
'He was fun. He seemed to fit
with the band.'
745
00:57:11,842 --> 00:57:15,243
And now with Jimmy and Joe
we were ready to get bigger.
746
00:57:22,085 --> 00:57:25,145
Do you have anything to sayto the people of New Orleans?
747
00:57:25,288 --> 00:57:28,519
- Yes, indeed. Mardi Gras.- Keep smiling, we love you.
748
00:57:28,625 --> 00:57:31,560
- When is your album coming out?- In about two months.
749
00:57:31,695 --> 00:57:34,129
- Any idea what the title will be?- Not yet.
750
00:57:34,231 --> 00:57:36,631
But stick around and we'll let you know.
751
00:57:36,767 --> 00:57:40,464
- But Venus and Mars are all right tonight.- Just a little hint.
752
00:57:40,604 --> 00:57:42,697
# Love is blind
753
00:57:42,906 --> 00:57:47,434
# Well, l don't know
But l say love is kind... #
754
00:57:47,577 --> 00:57:50,910
'We were getting around in those days.'
755
00:57:51,047 --> 00:57:53,880
We went to Lagos
because of African music.
756
00:57:54,017 --> 00:57:57,180
We went to Nashville
because it was America.
757
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,723
And the New Orleans scene,
the R&B thing there is great.
758
00:58:02,759 --> 00:58:06,217
'Even though you didn't use
the style of the town you were in too much,
759
00:58:06,363 --> 00:58:09,059
'it still influenced the way you felt.'
760
00:58:10,233 --> 00:58:16,638
So Joe would probably drum
a bit funkier than if he was in Lancashire.
761
00:58:24,648 --> 00:58:28,140
- 'We took days off and had Mardi Gras.'
- 'Got dressed up?'
762
00:58:28,318 --> 00:58:32,721
'Dressed up as clowns,
thinking no one would recognise us at all.'
763
00:58:32,856 --> 00:58:37,156
And people on the street, ''Hi, Paul!''
l said, ''No, l'm a clown.''
764
00:58:44,801 --> 00:58:47,565
# lt's my carnival
765
00:58:47,671 --> 00:58:49,866
# lt's a lovely day
766
00:58:53,610 --> 00:58:55,805
# Well, it's my carnival
767
00:58:55,912 --> 00:58:59,143
# lt's a lovely day... #
768
00:59:01,551 --> 00:59:04,645
lt was fantastic.
We'd come from very small beginnings.
769
00:59:04,754 --> 00:59:08,815
After the hugeness of the Beatles,
we put together this new band,
770
00:59:08,959 --> 00:59:13,419
'actually making records that people liked.
Number one records.
771
00:59:13,563 --> 00:59:18,364
'We'd wanted to start something up
just to continue playing music.
772
00:59:18,468 --> 00:59:21,562
'Then we'd wanted it to be
something cool that was us,
773
00:59:21,671 --> 00:59:24,071
'that allowed us to be free and experiment.
774
00:59:24,207 --> 00:59:27,404
'Then we wanted to practice it
and get a really good group.'
775
00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:30,673
So we finally had done all of those things.
776
00:59:30,814 --> 00:59:36,844
And now here we were like poised
to actually take it out and show off a bit.
777
00:59:36,953 --> 00:59:40,582
So on September the ninth,
we kicked off the world tour,
778
00:59:40,724 --> 00:59:43,989
at the Gaumont Theatre,
Southampton, England.
779
01:00:51,828 --> 01:00:55,821
- Pyjama!- Pyjama, pyjama!
780
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:02,638
You took us all across the other side
of the world, to Australia.
781
01:01:02,772 --> 01:01:06,708
- Was that a difficult decision?
- lt was only an issue to newspaper people.
782
01:01:06,843 --> 01:01:10,745
''Oh, look at those dreadful
rock'n'roll people, doing that!''
783
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:16,716
lt was not like you were hanging around
all night and everyone was totally out of it.
784
01:01:16,853 --> 01:01:19,981
There were parties,
but they were more like family parties.
785
01:01:20,123 --> 01:01:22,387
We always had to go to bed.
786
01:01:22,525 --> 01:01:25,119
l remember wanting to stay up
787
01:01:25,228 --> 01:01:29,062
and being ushered into the bedroom
and having to sleep.
788
01:01:29,199 --> 01:01:31,963
- We wanted to stay up.
- That's kids, though!
789
01:01:32,068 --> 01:01:35,265
Kids always want to stay up
and they have to go to bed.
790
01:01:36,606 --> 01:01:42,272
'We managed to combine being in
a rock'n'roll band and bringing up a family.'
791
01:01:47,350 --> 01:01:50,444
Any problems with security,with the children, with your wife?
792
01:01:50,553 --> 01:01:52,953
No. We don't worry too much about it.
793
01:01:53,089 --> 01:01:56,616
But we've got a fellowworking with us called Billy.
794
01:01:57,494 --> 01:02:01,624
- 'Billy's about 10 foot tall. He's got a... '- '...heart of gold. '
795
01:02:02,432 --> 01:02:05,663
(# ''Warm And Beautiful''
plays in background)
796
01:02:15,512 --> 01:02:17,412
Morning, all.
797
01:02:18,715 --> 01:02:22,378
- Let's see the horses. Want to tag along?- This is the Wings carrots.
798
01:02:22,519 --> 01:02:25,784
- Everybody tag along!- 'Mother and wife is it for me.
799
01:02:25,922 --> 01:02:30,518
'And riding my horse and my animalsis it to me. Photography is part of that. '
800
01:02:30,627 --> 01:02:35,257
It's called a Prickly Pear cacti.You find those in Arizona as well.
801
01:02:35,398 --> 01:02:39,164
'I wasn't very good at school...in school, see that?'
802
01:02:39,269 --> 01:02:43,069
Notice the wildflowers at this beautifulplace where we're staying.
803
01:02:43,206 --> 01:02:48,508
'But I think that getting experiencein life and understanding people
804
01:02:48,645 --> 01:02:51,205
'is more importantthan school. '
805
01:02:51,314 --> 01:02:54,010
This one's going to have a baby.
806
01:02:54,117 --> 01:02:58,144
'Heather is very worldly just havingcome with us everywhere we've gone. '
807
01:03:00,457 --> 01:03:05,087
# Love will never die #
808
01:03:09,532 --> 01:03:12,365
A little rock'n'roll song for you here.
809
01:03:46,603 --> 01:03:51,370
(Man) 'McCartney has just been toldthat a planned tour of Japan
810
01:03:51,474 --> 01:03:55,274
'has been cancelled because ofa conviction for possessing cannabis. '
811
01:03:55,411 --> 01:03:57,811
How do you feel aboutbeing kept out of Japan?
812
01:03:57,914 --> 01:04:01,941
It's a bit tough.It's a pity because we were ready to go.
813
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:09,385
Hello, people of Japan.
814
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,129
This is Paul McCartney of Wings,
815
01:04:13,229 --> 01:04:18,599
saying that we're very sorry that we can'tcome to play our music to you this time.
816
01:04:18,735 --> 01:04:23,297
But if the Minister of Justice sayswe can't come in, then we can't come in.
817
01:04:23,439 --> 01:04:28,934
So we'll see you next time, when wecome back to your beautiful country.
818
01:04:29,078 --> 01:04:30,943
Sayonara...
819
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,480
and rock on.
820
01:04:33,616 --> 01:04:36,244
(# ''Bluebird'')
821
01:04:50,033 --> 01:04:54,367
# All alone on a desert island
822
01:04:54,470 --> 01:04:58,600
# We're living in the trees
823
01:04:59,409 --> 01:05:04,938
# And we're flying in the breeze
We're the bluebirds
824
01:05:05,081 --> 01:05:08,949
# We're the bluebirds
We're the bluebirds, we're the bluebirds
825
01:05:12,655 --> 01:05:17,615
# Singing bluebird
Bluebird, a-ha
826
01:05:18,595 --> 01:05:22,725
# Bluebird, bluebird, a-ha
827
01:05:23,933 --> 01:05:28,063
# Bluebird, bluebird, bluebird #
828
01:05:30,273 --> 01:05:34,369
(# ''Let 'Em ln'')
829
01:05:51,628 --> 01:05:55,029
'We'd come a long way
and it was a great tour.'
830
01:05:55,164 --> 01:05:58,531
All the news people go,
''McCartney's back in town with Wings.''
831
01:06:01,638 --> 01:06:04,971
(Reporters) 'Six years after the Beatlesbroke up, Paul McCartney came back
832
01:06:05,074 --> 01:06:10,034
'as one of the few sixties superstarsstill alive, still making music and money.
833
01:06:10,146 --> 01:06:12,137
'Still a superstar. '
834
01:06:16,953 --> 01:06:20,116
'McCartney is the mostsuccessful former Beatle.
835
01:06:20,256 --> 01:06:25,523
'He's had six gold records, and this tourwill take in over five million dollars. '
836
01:06:25,628 --> 01:06:29,826
By the time we got to Seattle,
we'd got the world attendance record.
837
01:06:30,133 --> 01:06:34,536
(Reporters) 'Flying high, McCartneyis a superstar the second time around. '
838
01:06:34,637 --> 01:06:38,266
'It's sold out for three nights,bringing in over half a million dollars,
839
01:06:38,408 --> 01:06:44,210
'on the strength of Paul McCartneyand Wings. It is his show and his money. '
840
01:06:44,314 --> 01:06:47,010
# Ooh, yeah, yeah
Let 'em in now... #
841
01:06:48,951 --> 01:06:51,852
lt's exciting.
You've had a lot of parties in little places,
842
01:06:51,954 --> 01:06:55,117
and now you're going to have a party
in a whacking great place.
843
01:06:55,224 --> 01:06:57,784
(Linda) 'The more peoplesee the show the better. '
844
01:06:57,927 --> 01:07:01,624
'I like stadiums. I find them intimate,but most people don't.
845
01:07:01,764 --> 01:07:04,062
'I don't want to go back to the little ones. '
846
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,398
(Reporters) 'The concert began in the dark.Smoke machines filled the stage with fog.
847
01:07:08,504 --> 01:07:11,701
'At 8.:25 the lights came up,and there he was. '
848
01:08:28,851 --> 01:08:31,445
'Ten years after his last tourof these shores,
849
01:08:31,554 --> 01:08:36,355
'McCartney insists,''The Beatles are dead. Long live Wings. '''
850
01:08:36,692 --> 01:08:38,683
'So far no Beatle bulletin.
851
01:08:38,795 --> 01:08:41,093
- 'Will it happen tomorrow?'- 'Probably no. '
852
01:08:41,197 --> 01:08:45,964
'I'm bound to ask about the multimilliondollar offer to reform the Beatles. '
853
01:08:46,068 --> 01:08:48,502
'We don't know, but we'll be thereto find out. '
854
01:08:48,638 --> 01:08:52,597
'Perhaps all four Beatlesmay show up on the stage here. '
855
01:08:52,708 --> 01:08:58,271
The Beatles split in '69
And since then they've been doing fine
856
01:08:58,414 --> 01:09:03,317
And if that question doesn't cease
Ain't no one going to get no peace
857
01:09:03,453 --> 01:09:07,753
And if you ask it just once more
l think l'm going to break your jaw!
858
01:09:11,561 --> 01:09:16,794
This was a little ditty that l made up,
Muhammad Ali style,
859
01:09:16,933 --> 01:09:21,893
in order to answer the inevitable question
l was getting asked at that time, which was
860
01:09:22,038 --> 01:09:25,030
''When are the Beatles
going to get back together?''
861
01:09:36,953 --> 01:09:42,323
'There were one or two little hiccups
because Jimmy was his own man.'
862
01:09:42,425 --> 01:09:47,954
There was one incident when he didn't
want to come back on for the encore.
863
01:09:48,097 --> 01:09:52,431
l was like, ''What?''
l've never had anyone decide that before.
864
01:09:52,568 --> 01:09:57,096
So l just off and grabbed him.
l said, ''You're coming back on!''
865
01:09:57,440 --> 01:10:00,204
And he responded well
to that bit of direction.
866
01:10:00,309 --> 01:10:03,073
He came on, he played a blinder.
867
01:10:14,957 --> 01:10:18,984
The word spread that this was a good show.
Never mind the Beatles.
868
01:10:19,128 --> 01:10:22,222
This was just a good show to see.
Something completely different.
869
01:10:22,365 --> 01:10:25,334
# Then it occurred to me
You couldn't be bad
870
01:10:25,434 --> 01:10:28,267
# Magneto was mad
Titanium, too... #
871
01:10:28,404 --> 01:10:31,373
And how did it feel
to see Mum by your side?
872
01:10:31,474 --> 01:10:34,875
lt was great. Really great.
Beautiful.
873
01:10:35,011 --> 01:10:38,276
# You were the law #
874
01:10:40,283 --> 01:10:42,547
lt was the payoff.
875
01:10:42,685 --> 01:10:45,711
That was the crazy idea
we'd started in the beginning.
876
01:10:45,855 --> 01:10:48,380
''What if you're up on stage with me?''
877
01:10:48,524 --> 01:10:52,756
And even though it seemed
totally impossible, there it was happening.
878
01:10:55,865 --> 01:10:59,357
This tour has been so much fun.Especially on stage.
879
01:10:59,468 --> 01:11:01,402
- Right?- Right.
880
01:11:08,611 --> 01:11:11,136
'She was enjoying being in the band.
881
01:11:11,647 --> 01:11:14,309
'Doing the keyboards. She was confident.
882
01:11:14,450 --> 01:11:17,078
'And we were having a good time.'
883
01:11:19,255 --> 01:11:22,122
She had answered all the critics.
884
01:11:22,224 --> 01:11:26,627
That's all gone. People now are saying,
''Wow, this is a good band.''
885
01:11:29,832 --> 01:11:33,598
lt's the point we'd wanted to get to.
886
01:11:36,606 --> 01:11:40,667
(Reporter) 'I'm speaking to youafter a sell out performance
887
01:11:40,810 --> 01:11:44,678
'that had 20,000 and plusMcCartney fans on their feet.
888
01:11:44,814 --> 01:11:48,045
'No John Lennon,no George Harrison, and no Ringo Starr.
889
01:11:48,150 --> 01:11:50,641
'Just Paul McCartney and Wings.
890
01:11:52,455 --> 01:11:55,424
'For everyone here tonight,that seemed to be plenty. '
891
01:12:02,531 --> 01:12:05,159
(# ''London Town'')
892
01:12:06,068 --> 01:12:09,162
(Linda)'A typical day is pretty ordinary for me.
893
01:12:09,271 --> 01:12:12,399
'Because I like ordinary.It's what I'm about. '
894
01:12:13,876 --> 01:12:18,677
(Paul) 'One thing people say a lot is,
''How did you stay so normal?'''
895
01:12:18,814 --> 01:12:22,773
And l say,
''l've always been around normal people.''
896
01:12:22,918 --> 01:12:25,751
Family, you guys.
897
01:12:25,888 --> 01:12:29,915
We'd be like, ''Dad, can you stop
playing guitar, l'm trying to watch TV.''
898
01:12:30,026 --> 01:12:32,995
l'm a famous composer, darling.
899
01:12:33,729 --> 01:12:37,392
This is important.
''Dad, shut up!''
900
01:12:42,204 --> 01:12:44,638
# Silver rain was falling down
901
01:12:44,774 --> 01:12:49,939
# Upon the dirty ground
Of London Town... #
902
01:12:50,946 --> 01:12:54,245
'You'd think with a song called ''London
Town'', you'd make the album in London.
903
01:12:54,350 --> 01:12:58,787
'No, much too easy. We've got to go
to the Virgin lslands on boats.'
904
01:12:58,921 --> 01:13:03,756
One boat was a recording studio,
and we had a couple of boats for living on.
905
01:13:03,893 --> 01:13:05,918
(Both laugh)
906
01:13:19,075 --> 01:13:21,908
'Jimmy McCulloch liked partying too much.'
907
01:13:22,044 --> 01:13:27,676
l was rung up one morning
by Steve Marriot, a good singer.
908
01:13:27,817 --> 01:13:30,183
He said,
''Me and Jimmy have been up all night.
909
01:13:30,319 --> 01:13:35,120
''He's decided he wants to join me
and leave the group.''
910
01:13:35,224 --> 01:13:38,091
And so l was a little bit put out.
911
01:13:38,194 --> 01:13:40,355
But l said to them, ''Good luck, guys!
912
01:13:41,831 --> 01:13:43,662
''l'll see ya, Jim.''
913
01:13:43,799 --> 01:13:46,791
# l'm carrying
914
01:13:49,305 --> 01:13:51,773
# Something
915
01:13:54,009 --> 01:13:56,637
# l'm carrying
916
01:13:56,746 --> 01:14:02,446
# Something for you... #
917
01:14:02,551 --> 01:14:06,988
lt was going to be our last child.
We both secretly wanted a boy.
918
01:14:07,123 --> 01:14:14,029
# Carry me back
To the days l knew then... #
919
01:14:14,163 --> 01:14:17,360
l remember particularly when we were
recording ''Mull Of Kintyre''
920
01:14:17,466 --> 01:14:19,957
her being pregnant
and we were doing the harmonies.
921
01:14:20,069 --> 01:14:23,505
She used to love the fact
that she was singing ''Mull Of Kintyre''.
922
01:14:23,639 --> 01:14:28,804
Because if you believe that the babies
can hear that, like l know you do,
923
01:14:28,911 --> 01:14:32,312
then it's quite cute.
lt was sort of on the record almost.
924
01:14:32,448 --> 01:14:35,178
# Mull Of Kintyre... #
925
01:14:35,785 --> 01:14:40,449
'lt was a love song to the area
where we were living. Mull Of Kintyre.'
926
01:14:40,556 --> 01:14:44,151
At that time,
punk rock had just come in.
927
01:14:44,293 --> 01:14:49,128
(lmitates clashing guitar)
lt was all... ''God Save The Queen''.
928
01:14:49,231 --> 01:14:53,361
The thought of releasing a Scottish waltz
in the middle of that was like,
929
01:14:53,536 --> 01:14:56,164
''Well, that's going to be unusual.''
930
01:14:58,774 --> 01:15:03,302
They came up in full dress. And all the
young lads with their drums and stuff.
931
01:15:07,082 --> 01:15:12,918
# Flickering embers
Grow higher and higher
932
01:15:13,756 --> 01:15:17,385
So we finished it up and said,
''Right, now, break out the ale.
933
01:15:18,093 --> 01:15:21,961
''And we're getting rosy cheeked tonight,
and we're playing it back.
934
01:15:22,064 --> 01:15:24,555
''lt's a number one! lt's a number one hit!''
935
01:15:24,667 --> 01:15:27,830
- What's number one in the hit parade?- Wings and ''Mull Of Kintyre''.
936
01:15:27,970 --> 01:15:31,064
Wings with their new single,their beautiful ''Mull Of Kintyre''.
937
01:15:31,207 --> 01:15:33,573
Ladies and gentlemen, Wings!
938
01:15:44,286 --> 01:15:47,153
'lt was a screaming hit. Just went crazy.'
939
01:15:47,289 --> 01:15:50,383
lt was the biggest-selling record
in the history of the gramophone.
940
01:15:52,595 --> 01:15:56,929
'Those achievements and the sale of overtwo million copies of ''Mull Of Kintyre''
941
01:15:57,032 --> 01:16:00,468
'probably have made him a permanententry in the Guinness Book Of Records. '
942
01:16:00,603 --> 01:16:03,697
A nice nurse came out and said,
''lt's a boy.''
943
01:16:03,839 --> 01:16:07,832
So l grabbed her, picked her up,
hugged her, and rang you kids,
944
01:16:07,977 --> 01:16:10,946
''Guess what, it's a boy!''
l could hear you scream.
945
01:16:12,147 --> 01:16:15,480
'That was James, little cute thing.'
946
01:16:21,090 --> 01:16:24,116
l always used to say,
''l ruined your career, didn't l?
947
01:16:24,226 --> 01:16:27,593
''You got married to me
and became Mrs McCartney,
948
01:16:27,730 --> 01:16:32,167
''whereas you were Linda Eastman,
respected photographer, artist.''
949
01:16:32,268 --> 01:16:37,570
'Because the danger was
that it got overshadowed by my name,
950
01:16:38,274 --> 01:16:39,866
'which was now her name.'
951
01:16:40,175 --> 01:16:45,704
She got an offer to do a book
and put an exhibition together and stuff.
952
01:16:45,848 --> 01:16:50,649
So she did. lt was the start of
the reawakening of her photographic career.
953
01:16:50,753 --> 01:16:53,881
Why do you think it was happening then
rather than before?
954
01:16:53,989 --> 01:16:59,222
l think it really only occurred at that point
because we'd been working on Wings.
955
01:16:59,361 --> 01:17:04,560
And the danger with spending that much
time as a band member and as a wife
956
01:17:04,667 --> 01:17:08,433
is that an important part of your life
could be forgotten.
957
01:17:08,570 --> 01:17:11,869
She was too good, though.
lt couldn't be kept down.
958
01:17:16,545 --> 01:17:19,070
'The ever-changing line-up of Wings.'
959
01:17:19,214 --> 01:17:22,274
Joe, the drummer,
got very homesick for America.
960
01:17:22,384 --> 01:17:26,514
l remember thinking,
''Look, the group's breaking up again.''
961
01:17:26,655 --> 01:17:29,590
And you can get fed up with that.
962
01:17:30,592 --> 01:17:33,993
People used to make fun of it,
''Another band change for Wings.''
963
01:17:34,496 --> 01:17:37,988
# lf you had taken an arrow
And run it right through me... #
964
01:17:38,968 --> 01:17:41,334
'l would have liked it to stay together.
965
01:17:41,437 --> 01:17:44,998
'When it didn't, we found
Laurence Juber and Steve Holly,
966
01:17:45,107 --> 01:17:47,905
'so we made Back To The Egg
with that line-up.
967
01:17:48,811 --> 01:17:51,439
'We thought it would be a big seller,
and it wasn't.
968
01:17:51,547 --> 01:17:56,541
'But l know some people will say,
''My favourite album is Back To The Egg.'''
969
01:18:03,892 --> 01:18:06,224
# ln a village in Old Siam, sir
970
01:18:06,362 --> 01:18:08,830
# Lived a lady who lost her way
971
01:18:09,565 --> 01:18:12,659
# ln an effort to find a man, sir
972
01:18:12,801 --> 01:18:15,065
# She found herself in the old UK... #
973
01:18:17,806 --> 01:18:20,206
Paul McCartney and his wife Lindaare standing by
974
01:18:20,309 --> 01:18:24,905
on stage in London via satellitebefore a concert at the Rainbow Theatre.
975
01:18:30,352 --> 01:18:34,379
I think we've seen the sign that says''Wings is sold out tonight''.
976
01:18:34,523 --> 01:18:37,424
It doesn't appearthat Wings is in any trouble.
977
01:18:38,727 --> 01:18:41,218
'Well, we keep trying, you know. '
978
01:18:41,363 --> 01:18:45,595
How do you keep it fresh?How do you keep it current?
979
01:18:45,734 --> 01:18:49,465
I think the trick is, we enjoy doing it.
980
01:18:49,605 --> 01:18:53,769
We've been making records togetherfor about a year with this band.
981
01:18:53,876 --> 01:18:59,405
And so it's good fun now to go on theroad, and to do the songs to people.
982
01:18:59,515 --> 01:19:02,484
It's a new experience that we're enjoying.
983
01:19:02,584 --> 01:19:08,181
When we don't enjoy it, we'll knock it onthe head, but we're enjoying it.
984
01:19:08,323 --> 01:19:13,556
lt was strange, really. We were feeling
like we'd done what we'd set out to do.
985
01:19:14,396 --> 01:19:17,797
And we were getting a bit fed up
with another line-up.
986
01:19:17,933 --> 01:19:21,562
Here we go. Another dollar, another day.
lt started to wind down.
987
01:19:21,670 --> 01:19:24,070
The enthusiasm had peaked.
988
01:19:26,875 --> 01:19:31,107
- 'Have Wings got plans to tour?'- 'We're going to Japan in January. '
989
01:19:33,749 --> 01:19:36,980
'We arrived there for
this very big Japanese tour.
990
01:19:37,119 --> 01:19:40,680
'Oh, hello Tokyo.
Linda, please!'
991
01:20:02,144 --> 01:20:04,635
lt was very shocking.
992
01:20:06,348 --> 01:20:11,308
We had pot, tell you the truth. l don't know
to this day what made me do it.
993
01:20:11,453 --> 01:20:13,580
l had to be handcuffed all the time.
994
01:20:13,722 --> 01:20:16,555
l was wandering around
being taken out in the street,
995
01:20:16,692 --> 01:20:20,992
where there was all these fans,
screaming like it was Beatlemania.
996
01:20:21,130 --> 01:20:25,157
And instead of going to a gig,
l was going to a cell.
997
01:20:25,267 --> 01:20:27,258
It's a strain.
998
01:20:27,402 --> 01:20:30,894
I wouldn't mindif we knew he was getting out.
999
01:20:31,039 --> 01:20:35,738
l'd heard that the penalty for this
was seven years hard labour.
1000
01:20:48,557 --> 01:20:53,324
We weren't allowed to touch each other.
She was on the other side of a grill.
1001
01:20:53,428 --> 01:20:56,989
And l wasn't allowed to see the kids at all.
1002
01:21:05,908 --> 01:21:10,436
l'm supposed to be a responsible father.
What have l done?
1003
01:21:11,079 --> 01:21:15,539
l realised it was a big mistake.
1004
01:21:15,684 --> 01:21:20,246
(Reporter) 'Newsmen were there as thesinger emerged, cheerful if bemused,
1005
01:21:20,355 --> 01:21:23,916
'from the police station wherehe spent the last nine days in cells. '
1006
01:21:24,026 --> 01:21:26,688
l suddenly didn't have to do the tour.
1007
01:21:26,795 --> 01:21:29,559
lt was almost as if l wanted to get busted.
1008
01:21:29,665 --> 01:21:33,533
There are times where you just think,
''OK, you're an idiot.''
1009
01:21:33,635 --> 01:21:36,103
And that's one of them. l was an idiot.
1010
01:21:36,238 --> 01:21:40,265
'The Japanese prosecutor decidednot to proceed with the case,
1011
01:21:40,409 --> 01:21:44,470
'His reasons includedMcCartney's sense of regret,
1012
01:21:44,613 --> 01:21:48,811
'and because he'd suffered whatthe Japanese call ''social punishment''. '
1013
01:21:48,917 --> 01:21:52,250
They've been all right. It's all over.At least it's over.
1014
01:22:03,665 --> 01:22:06,133
l think l now have to own up.
1015
01:22:07,803 --> 01:22:11,102
We didn't have a conventional life.
1016
01:22:11,707 --> 01:22:15,074
# Winter rose
1017
01:22:15,644 --> 01:22:19,341
# Winter rose
1018
01:22:19,648 --> 01:22:22,208
# Shine your light... #
1019
01:22:22,317 --> 01:22:26,481
'She used to say, every Christmas
morning, she'd look out of her window
1020
01:22:26,588 --> 01:22:32,026
'and pray that there would be a horse
on the lawn with a bow around its neck.
1021
01:22:34,796 --> 01:22:38,562
'Mum had lost her mum
when she was about 1 9,
1022
01:22:38,667 --> 01:22:41,227
'l lost mine when l was about 1 4.
1023
01:22:41,370 --> 01:22:44,806
'So when we got married and
she told me these stories, l thought,'
1024
01:22:44,906 --> 01:22:47,966
''l know the feeling.''
We could sympathise with each other,
1025
01:22:48,076 --> 01:22:53,343
and have little emotional moments about it,
be able to relate.
1026
01:22:53,482 --> 01:22:55,882
So all those things
brought us together.
1027
01:22:57,286 --> 01:23:02,280
(Linda) 'I've had experienceswhere I've been just riding around,
1028
01:23:02,391 --> 01:23:05,622
'let's say in a field of wildflowersor in the woods.
1029
01:23:05,761 --> 01:23:08,696
'And for a second I feel like I'm in heaven.
1030
01:23:08,797 --> 01:23:11,061
'Heaven on earth.
1031
01:23:11,199 --> 01:23:14,635
'That's a fleeting feeling,but I've definitely had those.
1032
01:23:14,770 --> 01:23:17,398
'And it's the best. I just love it!
1033
01:23:42,631 --> 01:23:45,566
lf you're lucky,
all music is to do with freedom.
1034
01:23:45,667 --> 01:23:48,192
That was very much Mum's attitude.
1035
01:23:48,337 --> 01:23:51,636
lt's not their life, it's our life.
We've just got to keep true to ourselves.
1036
01:23:51,773 --> 01:23:55,937
Nothing to do with critics or other bands.
Nothing to do with anyone.
1037
01:23:56,078 --> 01:24:00,412
You do what you can do under
the best conditions. lf it works out, great.
1038
01:24:00,515 --> 01:24:03,507
lf you make
some good music, even better.
1039
01:24:04,086 --> 01:24:06,281
(Mary) That's what l like to hear.
1040
01:24:06,388 --> 01:24:09,118
So why did you let Wings end in the end?
1041
01:24:09,224 --> 01:24:14,389
l think it was just that Japanese tour.
lt ended in a bit of a disaster.
1042
01:24:14,529 --> 01:24:19,626
So maybe it was time to not bother
with any of that and give it all a rest.
1043
01:24:19,768 --> 01:24:23,795
Just sit back and see what's what.
See what you want to do,
1044
01:24:23,905 --> 01:24:26,806
rather than what you think you must do.
1045
01:24:26,908 --> 01:24:30,400
# But if you don't feel it... #
1046
01:24:30,879 --> 01:24:35,111
(Linda) 'I have fun. I don't care aboutcritics because I don't even know them.
1047
01:24:35,250 --> 01:24:39,846
'I only care about what I thinkand about what people I admire think. '
1048
01:24:39,955 --> 01:24:43,482
# We could set it free
1049
01:24:43,592 --> 01:24:45,719
# You and me
1050
01:24:45,827 --> 01:24:48,819
We had proved
what we had set out to prove -
1051
01:24:48,964 --> 01:24:51,455
that there was life after the Beatles.
1052
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:55,900
lt was amazing to be able to put
the thing together a second time around.
1053
01:24:56,037 --> 01:24:59,029
And to succeed was virtually impossible.
1054
01:24:59,174 --> 01:25:02,610
But we did it.
And then the hunger just subsided.
1055
01:25:02,711 --> 01:25:05,009
We thought,
''We've done it now.''
1056
01:25:05,113 --> 01:25:08,674
Go around the world ten more times
and get more Wings hits.
1057
01:25:09,084 --> 01:25:12,986
(# Original version of ''Junk'' plays)
1058
01:25:14,456 --> 01:25:18,950
'lt was good to settle down for a little while,
bring your kids up.'
1059
01:25:19,094 --> 01:25:23,758
ln those times, people were saying,
''The family unit is breaking up.''
1060
01:25:23,865 --> 01:25:25,992
But we didn't fancy that.
1061
01:25:26,134 --> 01:25:29,763
We liked the idea of having a close family.
1062
01:25:32,974 --> 01:25:37,343
- What was her biggest effect on you?
- Biggest effect on me?
1063
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:44,776
She was very kind, so l think
she brought out my kindness in me.
1064
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:49,550
l gave her some things
that she'd been missing, too, hopefully.
1065
01:25:56,465 --> 01:26:01,266
We wanted to achieve
some kind of freedom.
1066
01:26:01,403 --> 01:26:06,466
Get away from what was expected of us,
and do the music we wanted to make.
1067
01:26:06,608 --> 01:26:10,908
And the way we wanted to make it.
And live life in the way that we wanted to.
1068
01:26:11,046 --> 01:26:14,880
(Linda) 'Warmth and friendship,that's why I'm there.
1069
01:26:15,016 --> 01:26:18,383
'I'm not there becauseI'm the greatest keyboard player,
1070
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,250
'I'm there because we love each other. '
1071
01:26:21,356 --> 01:26:25,986
We didn't really have a clear idea
of exactly what we wanted to do.
1072
01:26:26,127 --> 01:26:30,860
But one thing we did know was that
1073
01:26:30,999 --> 01:26:33,934
the time had come for us to move on.
1074
01:26:40,008 --> 01:26:42,602
# You are my song
1075
01:26:42,711 --> 01:26:45,077
# Linger on
1076
01:26:45,547 --> 01:26:50,849
# You are my song
l am your singer
1077
01:26:56,024 --> 01:26:58,584
# You are my one
1078
01:27:01,296 --> 01:27:06,632
# You are my own melody
1079
01:27:06,768 --> 01:27:13,105
# You are my song
l am your singer
1080
01:27:16,845 --> 01:27:19,439
# Someday
1081
01:27:20,048 --> 01:27:23,449
# When we're singing
1082
01:27:25,253 --> 01:27:28,381
# We will fly away
1083
01:27:30,425 --> 01:27:33,326
# Going winging
1084
01:27:33,428 --> 01:27:35,988
# Cling, clinging
1085
01:27:36,131 --> 01:27:40,966
# Sing, singing my love song
1086
01:27:41,069 --> 01:27:43,196
# To you... #
1087
01:27:45,707 --> 01:27:49,165
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