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Heat.

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there is no one

that we're perfect.

Welcome back to Real Skate Stories.

Today, the Ragging Waters Boomer.

In 1987, designer, builder, and

president of Raging Waters, Tom

Lochafelt called OG skater and

snowboarder and owner of Session Skate

Shop, Joel Gomez,

asking for help with consulting and

building the ramp, and later to help

organize the legendary contest there.

Skater Andy Baronson was working at the

session skate shop at that time and Joel

recommended him to Loctafel and he

headed the project and I went to his

office and I said, "Hi Tom, how you

doing? I'm Andy, you know, talked to you

at sessions." And he goes, "I want to

build a pool." And I said, "Why?" And he

said, "Cuz I want to use skateboarding

as a way to entertain my guests at the

water slide park." And I said, "Okay."

So, I went to Steviey's house, Cavalero,

and I said, "Stevie, let's design a

pool. What do you want? What do I want?"

And we designed a figure eight pool with

uh hips on both sides, deep end, shallow

end, so you could air from one side to

the other, you know? And we designed

this perfect pool. And then we decided

where to put it. And then the retaining

wall for the pool cuz it was on the side

of a hill next to a water slide park,

you know, where all the water slides,

you know, you have to walk up the ladder

so you go down the slide. So it was on

the edge of that mound. The retaining

wall alone cost $14,000. And they said,

"No, we can't do that." And I'm, "Okay,

whatever. Well, build a ramp. Design a

ramp." And I'm okay. And then 3 days

later, he calls me up and he's like,

"Andy, can you design me the best ramp

in the world?" And I said, "Well, yeah,

but

I'm not sure what you're asking. I mean,

we're under a cost restraint here, so

I'll build you something nice. It'll be

kind of like Mile High, you know, and

but better transitions cuz Mile Tai was

a little bit tight. I was going to open

it up a little bit." And then uh I went

to sleep on it that night and I woke up

the next morning and I went, I'm going

to make a round ramp. I'm going to make

a bowl out of wood.

And as far as I know, I'm the first one

in the world that made a real bowl out

of wood.

And uh so I designed it and I told Tom

about it and I said, "We're going to

build a ramp." And he said, "About how

much it's going to cost?" And I said he

said I said I told him I did the math

about 17,000. He said, "Okay, we can do

that. Let's build it." So, I had to

actually draw the blueprints myself with

my eighth grade level blueprint drawing

mechanical skills and it had to be uh

okayed by the city and all that. And the

design I came up with was

basically a layering a layering design

and cut the pieces of plywood the layers

in place. And I I did a skeleton of it,

you know, I did all my transitions and

uh I knew it would work before I ever

built it. I knew it would work. And uh I

went with 9 and 1/2 ft transitions and a

foot and a half of vert because I wanted

it to be something that everybody could

skate. I didn't want to make it gnarly

to only the pros, you know, that kind of

thing. I wanted everybody to be able to

skate this thing. And the the ramp um

was 132 ft wide. I put a tombstone in it

with 4 1/2 ft of vert. And I put a

canyon that was 4 ft across. So, we had

a little something there. And then the

hip,

uh, the bowl to the hip, it was kind of

like an elbow noodle. It went back on

itself, you know. So, the bowl was a,

uh, 35 ft radius.

And the hip was a 3 and 1/2 ft radius,

you know, and it had, uh, somewhere

around 12 ft of flat bottom, something

like that. And, uh, so it was all my

idea. I designed it, built it, and then

the first time we went to skate it, I

was unsure that it was going to work

because of the plies on the corner, the

big bowl. So, I invited Rob Rosscott to

come skate it with us cuz he's a big

heavy dude and a good skater. They said,

"Rob, do a big old carve on this [ __ ]

bowl and see if it holds up." And his

first time, the first time we skated the

bowl, cuz the flat parts were fine, but

the bowl was deal. He put wheel marks in

for like 20 feet. His wheels busted

right through the [ __ ] Masonite and

he's like and he and then he jumped off

and did a knee slide and I'm okay. I

guess it doesn't work. So I had to put

two more layers on it. So altogether the

thing had

two layers of 38 and then a layer of

Masonite. And then we tested it and it

didn't work. So we did another layer of

38 and then another layer of Masonite.

So, it had like, you know, five or six

layers and uh then it worked. Rob, come

on out. I replied it. Let's go. And he

[ __ ] wrote it and it worked. And then

we started ripping the ramp. And the the

the the hip was another story because I

I wanted somebody to make this hip out

of fiberglass. And so I hired a boat

company to make the fiberglass hip. And

they did a shitty job. I told them I

need it to be up to here to this surface

and up to here to that surface up at the

coping level. And they [ __ ] it and I

was like [ __ ] So I had to rebuild it

myself with plastic filler bondo. And I

was out there with the disc grinder and

bondo for like three or 4 days. And I

made it perfect up to the layer of the

six layers we put on it. And that that

hip lasted the whole two years we had

the ramp. By the way, I only had to

relayer the ramp once.

Um, originally the ramp was supposed to

cost 17,000. It ended up costing 66,000

materials and labor, but it was a really

good thing. The interesting thing about

uh this ramp is that I made it for me

and all my friends like guys like you,

guys like Cavalero, you know, Christian

Soy, Rob Roscop, or me or all the rats

that hung out at Winchester skate park.

It was a rampant for us to ride. That

was the main thing. But after that, I

had to conduct skateboarding on it in

such a way to attract a crowd. So I had

to do professional skateboarding

contests on it and stuff. And I wanted

to mix it up. So what I did is I did u

roller skate competitions, rollerblade

competitions, BMX competitions, and

skateboard competitions. And when I did

that, this is way before X Games and the

Doer Tour. And everybody [ __ ] hated

me for it. Andy, don't let those BMXer

ride the goddamn ramp. They're going to

ruin it. And I'm [ __ ] you, dude. And

when I'm invited to BMXers out, they

ripped the ramp better than the skaters.

They [ __ ] ruled that ramp. They were

doing errors over the hip and [ __ ]

540 Mcwists on their bikes and 720s and

[ __ ] and disasters over. Oh god, they

[ __ ] ripped. And these were all the

best BMXers from the mid 80s to the late

80s. I mean, these guys were the [ __ ]

And then I invited the roller skaters

from the late '7s. And I Duke Renie,

Fred Blood, they were my heroes because

I used to ride the keyhole at Winchester

and I used to ride the keyhole with the

best in the world, you know, Cavalero,

you know, um, Kevin Reed and Scott Fos

and all the locals at Winchester. And so

Duke Renie and Fred Blood were roller

skaters and they used to rip the keyhole

better than we did. And I wanted to do

what they could do, which was 540 airs

and 720s. And they did it way before

anybody, you know, and it's like because

they were riding roller skates. So I

invited them to the ramp and I did a

triple competition one day on the ramp

and I had roller skaters, BMXers, and

skateboarders. And the skateboarders

complained. They complained. They

complained and complained. But the

roller skaters like, "Thanks for

inviting me." And the BMX's were all,

"Thanks for inviting me." And we had a

really good contest. And it was a really

cool mixture of riding the same ramp but

on different vehicles. And basically, if

you think about it, I kind of invented

the X Games. I invented the [ __ ]

Dour. And I was the first guy that

integrated all these action sports and

made it happen because I had a big

enough venue to make it happen. And uh I

ended up doing like five professional

skateboard competitions on there. And uh

remember back in the day where it was

always like Christian soy winning every

[ __ ] contest cuz he did big giant

airs. So I did this one time I did this

contest and I called it lip trick 88 and

I did a lip trick competition. So I was

trying to get people to concentrate on

the coping and the lip and you do do

more critical maneuvers instead just

giant airs. And everybody complained,

"But what is skateboarding now?" You

know, it's not just big airs. They do

[ __ ] street maneuvers on the [ __ ]

lift.

Revolution

tomorrow.

We're going to bring opportunities and

make a way for a new tomorrow.

So we'll soon come crashing down into

the sea.

You'll see.

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Heat. Heat.

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Heat.

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My way.

There is no one

in our dream

that we're gi

helps you to break free

will come crashing down to

you Yeah.

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We're alive but not too late.

In a town it's hard for me to believe

this is life in the 21st century.

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Heat. Heat. Heat.

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around.

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Look out

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your face.

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in your face.

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15 seconds.

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Yeah. Sliding rock and roll this time as

fab reverts to reverts to tap. Oh, it's

beautiful. Yeah.

Okay, I think we're ready for the gibb.

Texas, drop it in and turn it up.

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Boosting side. Yeah.

Yeah.

15 seconds.

Down. Lay back. Roll out.

Five four

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out.

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I know he does, huh?

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Mr.

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Heat. Heat.

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Yes.

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stay on

5050 in one we go

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Good morning.

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Time for Monty Miler with one more

trick.

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My final lip trick action. Eddie

Alggera.

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spot. My final lip trick action, Eddie

Algera.

Yeah, Eddie.

Eddie goes right back and attacks that

hip where he bailed before.

Stay away from him.

Bring it back in

syndrome.

Yeah.

I am about 6t tall

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slide.

15 seconds in

Ariel.

Woo!

Game ready.

That's great 360.

And that's going to be time.

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No mail room.

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15 seconds.

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Clock starts with you. Do Alan [ __ ]

All right. Now, 1 250 grind

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a

nasty backside slashing.

And that's going to be about time for

Alan [ __ ]

stalling grind. Lay back it up. Allan

pitches.

Set it down. You wait for me, man.

Yep.

Is everybody ready out there?

Spectators, let's hear some noise. Show

them what you like.

Let them hear it.

Bring it up, Christian.

Christian will show you what he likes to

do best.

Big air.

Let's get rad. Heat.

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pooping everywhere. Yeah. Yeah.

There's a long run. Tries to get the

tail down. 15 seconds.

Now it up there

way back.

Revert

revert.

This will be time.

Last time for Christian

fakey oi to tail tap in Christian.

You got to love it.

Well over 16. Let's see if he

got a room up there. Keep it up.

Wow.

Search number

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go.

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Did you come up with the name Boomer

wrap?

No, Tom did. I didn't want to call it

that cuz I thought it sounded stupid,

but it was shaped kind of like a

boomerang cuz it went back on itself.

And he was trying to make it a popular

sounding thing. Again, going back to the

design of the ramp, uh, I made it up. It

was just something that I thought needed

to happen because all the parks closed.

Uh I did a Saturday morning kids show

called Home Turf. And this is kind of

funny when I did that show because

Stevie and Christian were there and I'm

all, "Hey guys, you need to per you need

to ride for the show." And they're like,

"No." And what do you mean no? And

they're like, "It's your turn, Andy. You

[ __ ] ride." So, I did the home turf

show all by myself with Stevie and

Christian watching me. I used to love

doing these big carves around the ramp

and get max speed and I used to do these

layback slides for like 20 25 ft across

the ramp because it was Masonite and

just [ __ ] power slide lay back. It

was like riding a wave.

And then there was everybody from around

the industry that skated. And one of the

ones that I love skateboarding with one

time was Jay Adams. And we're

skateboarding together and we're doing

laybacks with each other and stuff. And

cuz he was layback master kind of and we

were trying to laugh him over and he

crashed someone and broke his wrist and

he's all Andy, I broke my wrist. So I

had to take him to the hospital. I was

with you.

You remember that day?

Yeah. I have photos at the hospital and

everything.

There you go. See,

he broke his bicep.

It was [ __ ] gnarly.

Yeah, his bicep.

I thought he just broke his wrist.

No, it was his bicep.

His bicep.

I have a photo of the X-ray.

Oh [ __ ] Oh my god. Yeah. You calling me

up was kind of exciting to me because I

think Ragging Water is a turning point

in the history of skateboarding and it I

think that story needs to be told now.

It's been like 40 years.

36 years. 36 years. It's a big deal. And

I think the world needs to know about

it. And uh I also was excited when you

said something about 16 mm film. You

know, that's pretty cool. I had so many

people wanting to film there and I had

so much going on that every now and then

I had to say no. I said yes to you first

before the other guy who did 16 mil back

then. He got all pissed off at me and

I'm like, "Dude, I don't have enough

ramp space. You I just can't do it. You

know, you can't come in." And he he was

bummed at me for like five years. And

I'm like, "Sorry, dude. I didn't mean

to. You know, you could come another

time." And he's like, "Ah, I'm glad you

were there cuz u I think we have a lot

of friends in common." And I always saw

that back in the day. And uh you were a

ripper. You were pretty good.

Thank you.

Yeah. Yeah. And

yeah, it's so excited to go there and

film. And it's classic. And a lot of the

footage from like other guys like Mike

Chantry and there's other

foot. I let Chantry up on the ramp all

the time. He's got stacks of footage

from Raging Waters. Stacks. Oh yeah.

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out of your side.

He tries it again. Pulls it off.

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61.

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That's fine.

All right.

Beyond

backside tail slide

deeper tail slide

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15 seconds.

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45 second run. That's going to be time

for Ken Park.

All right, Ken Park.

That was

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air tail down

a rock

there.

Gregory Johnson. Oh yeah.

Air walk to tail end. That's going to be

time

for Craig Johnson. Yes. He's going to

try to pull that.

Stevie was a good friend of mine and he

was one of the if not the best

skateboarder at the time in the world.

It's time to go.

It's time to start today. So much for

me,

my friend.

Now here we go. Time for you to

yourself.

Now's the time. The actions go action.

Here we go. This is not the end. I load.

Your vision's going. Just stay awake

till morning. I'll be right here with

you.

piece of mind.

Never say the end

up

choices that we make. This is not the

end. It's time to go.

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This is not

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with friends. This is my It's time to

go.

It's time to start today. So much fun.

Now here we go.

You only

now time the action action. Here we go.

Motivation dedication as you do

yourself. Stay true. Motivation

dedication to yourself. Let you go.

It's time you start today. So much

now. Here we go.

I'll make it for you. To yourself.

Now's the time. The action go action.

Here we go. T motivation for dedication

yourself

motivation. Dedication

yourself.

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It's time to start today. So much for

the end.

my friend

now. Here we go. Time, but I'll make the

top of you. Answer to yourself. Only way

will be true. Now's our time. The action

go action. Here we go.

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Yeah.

Heat.

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Yeah.

Heat.

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finer than Steve Cavalo.

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Yeah, I know it's close.

A little section 16T

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radius.

Guess how long we wide

is huge. 10 times bigger than your

average backyard.

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Uh Tom Lockfeld, the owner of the park,

he said, "Andy, you know, we got [ __ ]

going on and we're going to be draining

this and we're going to be cleaning that

cuz we're good buddies." And he just

talked to me about his workload. And I

said, "You're going to drain that pool?"

And he's like, "Yeah." And well, I'm

going to skate it. He said, "Well, I

don't know." And I'm well, no, we're

skating it. So, I made sure I knew when

it was going to be drained, and I went

there the the day it was drained, and I

cleaned it and swept it and made it all

nice. And I invited some key

skateboarders over and I invited Sala

and Keith Meek and me and Doug Smith and

I think Stevie, but he didn't show. And

we skated the [ __ ] out of that pool.

That's what I

photos of Stevie.

Yeah. Okay. Then Stevie was there that

day. Yeah. So, I skated with some of the

best pool skaters in the world. I mean,

Salva and Cabalo.

It was [ __ ] awesome. And it had like

four feet of hurt and it had a good

transition. It was [ __ ] badass. Yeah.

Remember Mac Dog put that in Sick Boys

movie.

Yeah.

Yeah.

This is Keith Me Raing Waters.

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Drawing a very fast and fluid line.

when I come over.

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I That's the other thing I did with

skateboarding and the the ramp is I

allowed a lot of new filmmakers have a

place to film and Mac Dog is one of

them. Yeah. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Good times, man. Good times. I'm

very surprised at the picture you showed

me of me welding on the [ __ ] coping

cuz I welded that like three days before

the big competition cuz I put new coping

on and I needed tabs to weld on to the

back end of the coping so I could lag

bolt it into the ramp because the first

year when I did the ramp, I did cement

coping and I studied cement coping to

find the best stuff I could And it still

sucked. I mean, it went out too much. It

was a little sticking out a little too

far and it had this weird lip on it and

it ground away. It made flakes, you

know. So, we rode it and we did it. But

the next year I put steel coping on it.

It was way better.

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Heat. Heat.

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Heat. Heat.

Heat.

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Yeah.

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Heat.

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Heat. Heat.

Heat.

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Heat.

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Heat. Heat.

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Heat. Heat.

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Heat. Heat.

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Fly

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around the ground.

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Heat. Heat.

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Make some noise.

The noise boys are here.

Okay,

let's bring John Texas Gibson back for

one more run.

See if he can get the eight cut.

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Gibson working the vertical.

Big front side bonus boosting off the

lift.

Lay back roll out.

Yeah, John.

15 seconds, John.

Yeah, John.

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Nice car. Four-wheel contact.

That's going to be time for John Gibson.

Another fine run

from Pasadena, Texas. All right. Thank

you, John.

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Heat. Heat.

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Jeff Hedges

from Midtown Palo Alto, one of the more

illustrious sponsored amateurs. Lives in

the Bay Area, a fixture at most backyard

ramps, welltraveled sponsored amateur.

Jeff's come a long way since Joe Lo

couple years ago.

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I get you.

worth

Get us free.

Heat.

Heat.

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And then I did several television

television shows, several news things,

and I was in the paper a lot. And you

know, I was in Thrash and Mag for like

two years solid. I mean, all the ads,

all the articles were all about Raging

Waters. And I did a doubles competition,

which was pretty [ __ ] cool. We return

to the boomer at raging waters in

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We return part of that great contest,

the doubles exhibition.

The skaters that participated in the

exhibition actually choreographed their

routines to make them as interesting and

as difficult as possible. As you can

see, the sport here is a real

crowdleaser.

The sport of skateboarding is an

electrifying thing to watch, probably

because of the inherent danger of

falling at any time. The skateboarders

compensate for this danger by wearing

top quality safety equipment. Now,

consider this. When two skaters ride

together, their sport becomes twice as

dangerous. Helmet or no helmet, knee pad

or no knee pad, when you collide, it

hurts.

Heat. Heat.

The first team was Bob Bole and Ben

Schroer. They demonstrated a sort of do

as I do. Follow the leader style before

attempting some impressive crossover

maneuvers.

The next team featured Mike McIll and

Steve Stedum. They pulled a few

maneuvers of their own and then synced

up for a beautiful combination.

Watch as Steve performs a clean backside

air over Mike while Mike ollies the

channel to a rock and roll board slide.

Is that beautiful or what?

Meanwhile, Lance Mountain and Steve Alba

choreograph their opening run.

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Look closely as Lance carves under

Steve's 50-50 board slide. And then

Steve carves under Lance's air, the team

of Alba and Mountain. We're going to

take another look at this one from a

different angle, if you will. Lance

simply hovers above as Steve carves the

lip underneath.

Back up on the lip, our final doubles

team of Chris Miller and Steve Cabillo

plan their attack.

First, a set of matching backside airs.

Then Steve flies high over Chris. And

then in their final move, board slides

toward each other, but they both are

going to have to bail out. That's it.

We've named the duo of Mike Miguel and

Steve Stetum as our classic summer

doubles team for this unreal

combination. Steve's backside air over

Mike's Ali to the board slide. And as

you can tell, double skateboarding means

double fun.

It was [ __ ] badass.

That was a very good moment. The other

really good moment is when Stevie did

the 11oot air and I had three judges.

One of them was my wife, my early wife

Margaret, and she was a skate betting.

So, she thought she knew what she was

doing. And right after she did that

error, she announced it 11 ft. And well,

Margaret, shut the [ __ ] up. No, I'm the

lead judge. This is a big deal. This is

being filmed and everything and the

whole world's watching this right now.

So, you can't just say that, you know?

And I so I had to study Mike Chantry's

footage and I also looked at what I

thought I saw and then I went it was 11

ft. But it took me like 7 minutes to

make that that decision cuz it was a big

deal.

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Heat. Heat.

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30 minutes to be satisfied.

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again.

Give up.

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Pretty hot.

I hope

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he's pretty hot.

I hope

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pretty high.

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Competition here on the boomer ramp.

Raging waters.

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Competition here on the boomer ramp.

Raging waters.

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competition here on the boomer ramp.

Ranging waters

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early on that big backside air

was out at 8 ft. Chris Miller, ladies

and gentlemen, skaters

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the TV camera

superstar board that open up that last 6

in

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half a foot out of it. I said

first

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speed attack. Let's watch him.

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Quick with the lead down.

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Do it again.

Heat. Heat.

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So, I really feel proud of what I did at

Raging Waters. And I think,

you know, there's a lot of people that

enjoyed it and liked it, but there's a

lot of the bigger audience doesn't

understand what I did and what I had to

go through to make this happen. And so,

I really feel proud that I was at the

beginning of modern skateboarding. You

know, I really helped the sport grow.

Here's a anecdote about Raging Waters is

when it was all over, Tom said, "Okay,

we're going to move a different

direction. The ramp's over." It went two

years. I think it was two and a half

years. And we had a lot of fun. He's

like, "Andy, you want to take the ramp

apart?"

I'll burn it down.

The thing had 60,000 screws in it

holding it together.

Yeah. It was 138 ft wide. It was [ __ ]

big. And then uh then he laughed at me

and I laughed at him and then I said,

"Well, get a loader and I'll operate the

loader and I'll demolish it for you."

But I ain't taking it apart. [ __ ] No

way. So that was the end of that. Um I

think I did my best to make a difference

in the industry because of the sport I

love. So I did it was all out of love.

It was all out of uh giving back to and

uh promoting. And uh one of the things I

had never liked is that some of the

skateboarders would tell me I sold out,

you know, cuz I was working with a

reputable company, Raging Waters, you

know, a mainstream company. But back

then, skateboarding was more

underground. So, I tried to bring it up

and bring it mainstream. And uh me being

one of the first guys that did

mainstream skateboarding, I was, you

know, uh criticalized about it. And I

said, "Dude, I'm just trying to make a

living doing what I love and you know,

knock it off, you know, just

so uh but if you look at skateboarding

now, it's everything that I did back

then. So I'm very proud of what I did

and it was fun as fuck."

Yeah.

After you did the boomer, then next

after that, everyone followed suit.

Powell did the the animal chin ramp

and transitions got bigger.

Yeah.

So, did you have any idea that you were

gonna incap that you're going to impact

like the future of ramp building?

Yes and no. Uh, but mostly yes, because

I knew this was like there was no more

skateparks and so we had to build [ __ ]

out of wood and I'm like, if I'm going

to if I really want to build what I want

to ride, it's it's going to be [ __ ]

awesome. There was this kid uh he was,

you know, middle of the country, you

know, I don't know where he lived, Ohio

or whatever. He made a full

model of Raging Waters ramp and and sent

me a picture of it and it was like

[ __ ] cool. He made a model of it. It

was like 2 feet long, you know, and a

foot and a half wide and he made a model

of it. I mean, to me to stoke some kid

out enough to where he made a [ __ ]

actual model of the ramp I built that

made it for me. I always like, yes,

that's what I want. I want to inspire

people and let's just go and do it.

Well, one thing I can say, it's good to

see you, Tony, because I remember you

were like a skinny little surf kid that

was just raring to go.