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NARRATOR: Tonight on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch.

Is Mount Shasta a source of energy

contributing to the experience that people are having, or is it

something much more sinister?

MAN: Bringing her up.

Oh, well, look at that.

Wow, look at that.

- Totally different. - There we go.

There we go.

So Mount Shasta has kind of a long history of people

that have gone missing.

You're talking about people just vanishing,

like without a trace.

That's right.

WOMAN: See those orbs?

This is the light shows that happen every night.

NARRATOR: For years, scientists have

been working to reveal the secrets of Skinwalker Ranch.

But is it possible that the clues

to unlock the mystery are located

beyond the borders of this hub of high strangeness?

Wow.

NARRATOR: Now, an ex-CIA agent and a veteran journalist

have been recruited by the Skinwalker team

to go on a high stakes mission across America.

Look at all this activity that's happening.

PAUL: That's unbelievable.

ANDY: That is right over our heads.

That's it, that's it, right there!

NARRATOR: The goal-- uncover evidence that

may finally expose the truth.

MAN 1: How is this happening?

MAN 2: Now it's going to get interesting.

MAN 3: Look, it's moving!

Look at that!

MAN 4: This is just the beginning.

Well, it's great to be back with you guys.

As we saw in the past, some exciting things

happened at Mount Shasta.

To have so much evidence.

You know, so many unique findings.

The question that we left Mount Shasta with last time

was, why?

Why are we seeing what we're seeing?

What's driving the energy flow coming to and from the mountain?

What helps to explain the incredible anomalies

that are there, really?

And it makes me wonder whether or not

we're dealing with a situation where

energy might be going somewhere, might be disappearing.

NARRATOR: In their previous visit to Mount Shasta,

Andy and Paul investigated this hotspot of strange energy

that draws people from around the world.

WOMAN: OK, totally disorients here.

Look at that.

It's telling me north is that way.

North is this way.

NARRATOR: While investigating at the mountain,

the team recorded anomalous radio

frequencies that corresponded with multiple UAPs.

Look at this.

What is that?

At 1.71 gigahertz.

Oh, here's something right here.

Darted straight across.

ANDY: What is that?

NARRATOR: When they went 16 stories down into the mountain

system, they detected strange radio frequency spikes that

shouldn't be present in a cave.

It seems like as we climb higher

into these more privileged zones,

you see more of these energy bursts.

I can't, for the life of me, figure

out how you get a microwave signal down inside a cave.

Why are we getting 1.6 gigahertz signals inside this cave

at Mount Shasta?

Makes no sense to me.

What there isn't right now is any kind of evidence that's

measurable in nature that shows the energetics of the mountain

itself.

What we're hoping to do is find a way

that we can actually answer that question in

a measurable, scientific way.

Is Mount Shasta special?

Is it different?

Does it contain energy?

Does it retain energy?

Does it transmit energy?

And whether or not there is something that we can measure

that helps to define whether or not the phenomenon

there has some sort of malevolent intent or benevolent

intent, if intent at all.

If there is something uniquely energetic going on

at Mount Shasta, you know, I want to trace

that energy to its source.

You know, I really think that is our ultimate objective.

The holy grail here is finding out its root cause analysis.

You cited several energetic effects

during the course of the work that you've done so far.

I want to continue along that line.

Even if it turns out that we can't

put our finger on a causation, what we do know

is that there is an effect.

Yeah.

People are going there for some reason.

Well, if your first investigation of Mount Shasta

is any indication as to what can hopefully be seen in the future

and what you may yet find out, I think we have

some exciting results in store.

We'll try to move the ball further down the field.

PAUL: Yeah, further up the mountain.

All right. That's what it's all about.

Can't wait to see what you get.

All right. Thanks, guys.

MAN: Good luck, man. PAUL: Thank you.

I'll tell you what, man.

I am really excited to be going back to Mount Shasta.

Our first time here, we were really just looking to see,

can we measure the energy?

Can we quantify the energy?

Can we put data behind the stories?

We put a ton of data behind the stories.

Now we know exactly what we want to do.

We want to push this mountain as far as we can push it.

Right now, we want to provoke this beast as much as we can.

There's such an established culture here that the mountain

is somehow positive.

Right, like it's a benefactor of some sort.

But the data that we collected in our first investigation

could potentially point at something much more sinister.

Is the mountain really a source of energy that's contributing

to the experience that people are having, or is it

somehow like a sink that's taking

energy away from the people--

Absorbing it.

You know, I'm really looking forward to meeting

up with Sheriff LaRue again.

I mean, he was such a great resource last time.

NARRATOR: In their previous visit,

Paul met with Sheriff Jeremiah LaRue to hear about some

of the anomalies documented at Mount Shasta.

This mountain puts out a lot of energy.

It drives a lot of people to this area.

And then we, of course, have the aerial phenomena

that is unique to the area.

NARRATOR: Now, he has some more recent reports

to share with Andy and Paul.

SHERIFF JEREMIAH: Yeah, thanks for coming back.

PAUL: Absolutely.

So Mount Shasta has kind of a long history of people

that have gone missing.

And--

Like completely disappearing?

Yes.

So we do get a lot of missing people in the area.

People that go, you know, backpacking or hiking.

But we usually find them.

You know, we go out and look for them.

But there's always a handful that we don't find.

You're talking about people just vanishing,

like without a trace.

That's right.

So what about the stories that you get back from the people

who you do recover?

What leads to their absence, their disappearance?

Do they have any experiences that are

relevant to our investigation?

So people have reported being disoriented.

Just not feeling themselves, feeling nauseated.

But feeling drawn in a certain direction.

Sometimes people are going to be affected by altitude.

But you're talking about something else.

Like, people are reporting some kind of energy presence,

it sounds like.

Even not at high altitudes, they just feel a sense

that they're not feeling well.

And they feel pulled in a certain direction.

There's maybe more to the story

of the energy of Mount Shasta than, you

know, previously believed.

What we're seeing is high levels of energy.

But we don't know whether the source of energy is underground,

or whether the underground location is drawing

energy from the surface.

So since you were last here, we've had

a lot of additional reports.

Primarily in the McCloud area.

It's about 10, 15 miles from here.

And it's just to the east.

And one of the hot spots is the Healing Place.

Great view of Mount Shasta, and people

report similar things that what you experienced the last time

you were here.

Orbs in the sky or seeing, you know, just different aircraft

or maybe even possibly UAP.

Did people actually file reports?

Is that what you got?

Yeah, I actually have one right here

I can kind of discuss with you.

And it describes a fireball coming down out of the sky.

Can I take this?

Absolutely.

Go ahead and look at it.

ANDY: "UFO protocol has been initiated.

Beale Airforce Base has it on their radar, but is not

at liberty to say what it is."

Wait, what?

It sounds like we should head out to McCloud.

Yeah.

Is it possible for us to get onto the grounds of the healing

place that you mentioned?

Yes, absolutely.

Great, OK.

Thank you, Sheriff.

SHERIFF JEREMIAH: Thanks for stopping by.

PAUL: Well, we've got our work cut out for us.

ANDY: Yeah.

NARRATOR: The Healing Place is a nature retreat located 10 miles

southeast of Mount Shasta.

Jamie Mayfield is the owner and has

experienced multiple strange incidents on the property.

It's pretty crazy, huh?

You wake up to that every day.

Every day. It's--

Amazing.

--gorgeous.

It's like a painting.

It is.

PAUL: Incredible.

So tell us about this place.

How did you end up here?

2018, I came here to look at vacation rental.

I looked at the mountain, and I said,

take me where I need to be.

And this property was listed the day that I came up.

People talk about feeling drawn to be here.

You know, it sounds like you always

knew that you were coming here.

It felt like that.

Jamie, have you had personal experiences here?

Yes.

I was in bed and couldn't sleep.

And I get up, and I go off outside on the deck.

And I saw an orange ship hovering right over those trees.

So I go inside, and I lay down.

And I have my face turned towards the window.

And I see this white orb come right in.

And it's about this big.

And then all of a sudden, I got paralyzed.

Was there a trigger?

Was it-- - Hum.

I hear it.

A hum?

Yeah, I hear a hum.

Hums, paralysis.

I mean, we've heard this stuff before.

I was going to say, these are things that are--

while your experience is really intense, that we

have heard and seen elsewhere.

We have infrared cameras set up all around this house.

Running every night.

Do you have recordings of those?

Of course, I'll show them to you.

OK, great.

This is off of this deck.

See those orbs?

This is the light shows that happen every night.

ANDY: If these are insects, we see no wing activity.

PAUL: No.

And this-- you're going to trip out.

PAUL: That's snow, right?

No.

This is August 23rd. - Whoa.

ANDY: Look at that.

JAMIE: All of my cameras.

PAUL: What is that?

Every single one of these cameras all night long did this.

It's the craziest thing.

Now I've seen it four times since then.

PAUL: What is that, Andy?

What do you think that is?

I have no idea.

It's so concentrated.

It's so intense.

PAUL: It can't be dust.

No, it wouldn't be focused.

It wouldn't have that kind of signature.

And then this was just like a whiteout.

So this one's pretty faint.

But I have a bigger picture that I blew up.

Right there.

PAUL: Whoa.

Look at that baby.

Look, you can see the body and everything.

PAUL: It's like it's looking--

JAMIE: It's not so warm and fuzzy.

No.

It sounds like a number of the sightings

that you've had have been towards the mountain.

Which is consistent with what we've seen before here as well.

So we need some way of seeing in the dark.

Light enhancement and thermal will let us do that.

If there's a way to instigate a response--

We're going to try it.

Jamie, I know you hold gatherings here

at the Healing Place, but I bet you've never

seen anything quite like this.

NARRATOR: Andy and Paul are with experiencer Jamie Mayfield

at her nature retreat, the Healing Place,

in the foothills of Mount Shasta, where they're setting

up for their first experiment.

So Jamie, just a really quick walkthrough of what we

have here as we're checking in.

This is a spectrum analyzer that we're

using to listen in to the radio frequency signals,

the radio energy around us.

Here, we have our two UFODAPs.

The UFODAPs are really unique.

You can actually see the displays out there.

What they are is an AI powered camera that are really

going to be eyes on the sky.

They're going to pick up anything

unusual that's not a plane, that's not a satellite.

And really instantly analyze it against a huge library

of information. - Great.

Yeah.

They're very cool.

And then in real time, we'll be

tracking satellite movement around the earth,

specifically around us.

And FAA flight data.

That's also around us.

So between the UFODAPs and these two pieces of equipment here,

we'll be able to track in real time

anything we might see and rule out if it's something manmade.

Definitely.

And then the last two cameras that we have here

are thermal imaging cameras.

So you are using infrared at your house.

And the infrared you're using enhances light.

The infrared that we're using here

actually tracks thermal energy instead of light energy.

Now, on the table over here, we have our team from Nu-Salt. Now,

you guys were at Skinwalker Ranch recently, too, right?

Yeah. Yeah, we were.

NARRATOR: Joining the team tonight

are laser experts Tim Anderson and Jeremy Fenton from Nu-Salt

Laser, who've conducted several experiments

at Skinwalker Ranch in an effort to stimulate anomalies.

TIM: Holy cow.

Look at that.

NARRATOR: That resulted in a correlating

UAP sighting in 2021.

- You see this. - Yeah.

What the crap is that?

MAN: Unbelievable.

NARRATOR: Now, Andy and Paul want

to see what will happen when they

shine lasers in the direction of Mount

Shasta from Jamie's property.

Now, how many projectors do we have here?

We have two 40-watt laser light show

projectors and we have two 100-watt

laser light show projectors.

NARRATOR: In this experiment, the lasers

will scan toward Mount Shasta in a linear pattern.

By adding light energy to the environment,

the hope is to stimulate UAP activity.

Or the beams could detect other aerial phenomena

if they bend or disappear while refracting off the anomaly.

How's everything going, Tim?

Well, we're having some connection problems right now,

so we're trying to connect the computer

to the laser projectors.

Is this something the kind of problem you've had before,

or is it--

No, it's not very common.

PAUL: Huh.

In fact, all these lasers were working in the shop

when we tested them yesterday.

This is weird, right?

This is very weird.

But we're going to stay at it, and I'll let you

know if we have some changes. - OK.

Yeah, OK.

Thanks.

Nu-Salt Laser is a team of proven professionals.

I mean, these guys have taken their equipment to Skinwalker

Ranch and had it work in incredibly difficult conditions

on a very unpredictable ranch.

But somehow, Mount Shasta seems to be

getting the better of them.

Well, let's start getting some baseline readings here.

So I want to check the spectrum.

All right, rounding up on 1.4 gigahertz,

where we're starting to get into privileged bands.

The team is monitoring the privileged 1.4 to 1.8 gigahertz

radio frequencies-- a range that often coincides

with strange anomalies.

Ooh.

What's all that?

PAUL: Wow.

That's different, for sure.

See if we can zoom in on this a little bit.

Significant.

ANDY: Do you know what this reminds me of,

is what Travis and Eric were telling us

about with a comb pattern on the radio spectrum.

You can see the energy swells happening, too.

You see that on the left?

Whoa! You see that?

Look at that.

Look at that.

ANDY: That is strange.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Look at this, Paul.

Look at this, Paul.

Look at what happens right at 1.6 gigahertz.

What could cause that?

I've never seen anything like that.

ANDY: The energy seems to change right at 1.6 gigahertz.

I'm going to keep going up and see what we see.

PAUL: What's that massive spike there?

ANDY: I don't know.

Let's tune into this one and see if we can't make sense of it.

[crackling]

We've never heard that sound before.

Yes.

I don't know what this is, Paul.

That kind of transmission is not like anything

I've ever heard before.

What that is, it's beyond me.

Boys, we're seeing all sorts of strange stuff on our side.

How are things looking for you?

So right now, I'm reloading the software completely.

A fresh version, and to see if that will

connect with the projectors.

Have you seen a failure like this before?

Nowhere.

Yeah, this is a first for me.

Usually they work perfectly.

And they're not.

Let me take us up above 1.7 gigahertz and see what happens.

Here's another strange signal.

Let's see if we can zoom in on this guy.

1.745.

[electronic whirring]

PAUL: That sound like to you?

I've never heard anything like that.

There's a short period cycling in there.

[mocks electronic sounds]

And then there's a clicking sound in the back.

Let see if can get us closer to the main center of this sound.

It gets more intense, as you say,

as we focus in on the main peak.

And then it starts to die out as we get into the larger waveform.

NARRATOR: Andy and Paul have just

discovered energy signals on the spectrum analyzer

in multiple frequency zones.

And each signal looks and sounds different,

which indicates that they're coming from separate sources.

There's something generating intense energy

in the entire Shasta region.

Oh.

Look at this, look at this.

Do you see the rhythm, the pattern of it?

Look at that.

What could be driving something like that?

ANDY: Steady.

PAUL: That's a pulse.

ANDY: Whoa! PAUL: Whoa.

ANDY: Did you see the waves?

PAUL: What is going on?

Let's listen in.

[crackling]

It's very rhythmic.

That's really interesting.

ANDY: Very strange.

Look at that fall.

What is that?

After our previous investigation in Mount Shasta,

I absolutely expected to see aerial phenomenon.

Orbs.

Strange, unidentified UAPs.

Something centering on the mountain.

But we're not seeing that at all.

Instead, we're seeing this extremely strange footprint

of radio frequency energy that's happening on the spectrum,

both in terms of shape and in terms of sound itself.

In between the crackles, there is a--

So there is information there.

There is stuff there.

That's interesting.

[rhythmic crackling]

Paul, what a strange thing.

Yeah, I don't know what to make of that.

ANDY: Yeah, we're back up.

It has power now.

NARRATOR: The Nu-Salt Laser team has been dead in the water

so far because of strange connection issues.

So now, they're bypassing their computer controller

and simply operating the projectors locally.

When you're ready, I'll turn that on.

PAUL: Yeah, go for it. Let's give it a shot.

OK.

We don't know how much longer before our equipment

stops working.

Yeah.

All right.

Lasers on. - Hey!

- Look at that. - All right.

Great.

Tim, are you running, like, a test pattern right now?

That's what that is?

That's exactly what I'm doing.

OK.

Yeah, look.

NARRATOR: Because Nu-Salt is bypassing their computer

controller, the lasers only have the ability to project patterns

several feet in front of them in the direction of the mountain.

So we're seeing some response here in the radio spectrum

potentially.

See, look at this.

You see this? ANDY: Yeah.

I wonder what's going on there.

TIM: I don't know.

But it started with the lasers.

Look at how broad the energy is with the lasers on.

But it wasn't there a second ago.

Strange phenomenon on the radio spectrum

seemed to be a solid indicator that you're

in some kind of a hotspot.

But what's really blowing me away

is that what we're seeing on the spectrum right now,

that's tied to the fact that the Nu-Salt team

just started sending out electrical impulses

with their lasers.

Through 1.78 gigahertz.

Continuing and continuing.

PAUL: Wow.

I mean, it's, for sure, slapping us in the face.

That's a wide surge in energy across the spectrum.

Whoa!

We lose a projector?

ANDY: Looks like it.

We lost the projector at the same time we lost the signal.

Holy smokes, Paul.

The lasers came on, and the radio spectrum changed.

We lose 50% of our laser capability.

- Yeah. - And--

And the signal changed again.

And the signal changes again.

We often have equipment problems.

But this is on a new level.

Yeah.

Really.

And guys, I mean, this is the best we can do, right.

We can't get out of the test pattern.

This is it. - Yeah, this is it.

It just seems like there's too much

interference between our computer

and our laser light show projectors.

What would you expect to happen if the energy

was being pulled from it?

It would have connection problems.

Like what we're talking about right now.

I don't know, man.

Yes.

Very strange.

All right.

Well, with that, thank you, Jamie.

Thanks, guys.

And I guess let's break it down.

Break it down

JAMIE: Well, thank you, guys, too.

ANDY: Pack it up.

Thank you.

I did not expect to see what happened at McCloud.

With the equipment failure, with the spectrum analyzer,

with the audio signal that turned

into an actual palpitation of some kind of heartbeat

or some sort of metallic drumbeat.

That was wild.

The stories about Shasta that I've heard the most about

are what happens in the skies around the place.

The orbs, the, you know, the UFOs, the UAPs.

But this was a whole new dimension.

And now it certainly seems like there

is some sort of strange phenomenon emanating

from the energy in the mountain. - Right.

I feel like the mountain is trying

to keep its secrets from us, and we need to get

a little bit more aggressive.

What do you think we should do now?

The idea that the mountain is somehow supercharged with energy

or that it's it's able to deliver that energy

to the community around it, I mean,

that's something that we should be

able to actually measure in the geology of the mountain itself.

Right.

We just have to be able to take a sample of the mountain

and then expose it to certain energy.

And one of the perfect energy forms that I think we can use

is electrical energy.

I want to take rock samples from Mount Shasta.

OK.

And kind of run a Frankenstein experiment on them.

Put a bolt on either side and see

if we can run current through them and what they'll do.

Wait, so you want to try to run

electricity through the rocks?

Because that'll give us a chance to actually see,

do they have their own energy?

Do they conduct energy?

Or do they store energy?

Right.

I mean, no matter what, we're going to see how they respond.

And I think I know just the person to help us.

Well, I think I know where you're going.

Tesla coils. Cameron.

Exactly right.

Cameron Prince.

NARRATOR: In 2020, the Skinwalker team

brought in Tesla coil expert Cameron Prince

to stimulate the environment.

Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait.

What is that?

NARRATOR: Which seemed to trigger the appearance of a UAP.

Andy and Paul will now bring Cameron to Mount Shasta

to do an experiment with the Tesla coil

never before tried at Skinwalker Ranch.

With a Tesla coil, the energy goes in the path

of least resistance.

So if we see the energy jump from the Tesla coil

to a rock from Mount Shasta, we'll

also be able to measure whether or not that electrical current

carries through the rock.

And we'll learn with one experiment two answers.

One, are the rocks attracting the energy?

And two, will they store the energy or conduct it?

Yeah. OK.

I like it.

I mean, it's crazy, but, I mean, at this point, you know,

why not?

Yeah.

Cameron, I'm really pumped to have you back tonight.

It's always great to see you, man.

We know literally sparks are going to fly whenever

Cameron Prince is around.

You know it.

Glad to be here. Thank you.

NARRATOR: Andy and Paul have brought in Skinwalker veteran

Cameron Prince to shoot electricity from a Tesla coil

into the rocks here at Mount Shasta.

So we have two main objectives tonight.

One is to determine whether or not

the rocks that are native to this area can conduct energy.

Second, we want to know whether or not

these rocks can absorb energy.

Now, I gave you a number of native samples.

Where are those? Have you prepped those already?

They're right back here.

We've got most of them. - OK.

OK.

Beautiful.

Oh, wow.

So you've got them set up already with electrodes.

Yes.

NARRATOR: Cameron has prepped multiple rocks

so they can see what happens when they

try to run the electricity from the Tesla coil

through each stone.

I have no idea what it's going to do.

I've never done this sort of thing before with a Tesla coil.

So first for me.

We're going to light these rocks up and find out.

NARRATOR: For this experiment, Cameron

has attached an electrode to both sides of each rock.

He'll then fire off the electricity from the Tesla coil

into the rock to see what happens.

If the current goes around the rock,

it's repelling the electricity and is not conductive.

If the current goes through the rock,

it's absorbing the electricity and conducting energy.

OK.

NARRATOR: In addition to firing off the Tesla coil,

the team will be using their tools

to monitor for any other strange anomalies

happening within the rocks or in the surrounding environment.

So Cameron, we've set up all of our, like,

kind of core equipment here.

We've got multiple thermal cameras at work.

We have a spectrum analyzer to check the radio spectrum.

We also have a pretty cool tool here.

It's a big lens, guys.

So this is a high speed camera that's actually

taking 1,910 frames per second.

NARRATOR: The Edgertronic camera is a professional grade

high speed camera that can capture video 80

times slower than in real life.

It was originally invented for professional baseball

to slow down 100 mile per hour pitches

to show the spin of the ball for training purposes.

And we'll be able to review the footage right

after we run this experiment.

Great.

We have no idea what's going to happen here.

We are literally lighting up rocks with electricity

from a Tesla coil.

This is going to be fascinating.

This is awesome.

NARRATOR: The first rock they'll be testing

is a piece of limestone that Cameron brought with him

from his home in Alabama.

They'll use this as a control rock

to compare against the rocks found here at Mount Shasta.

Bringing her up.

[buzzing]

Oh, whoa.

Wow, look at that.

Look at the rock smoking, man.

PAUL: I was just going to say, it immediately starts.

ANDY: Yeah, look at that.

Look at that.

It's not heating up, though.

Yeah, I'd say it's not conductive.

So what we saw there was the arc actually going

around the outside of the rock.

Just jump the rock completely to the electrode

on the other side.

ANDY: Exactly.

Is it hot to the touch, Cameron?

Nope.

What we're seeing is a rock that

is rejecting any electrical current through it at all.

And that's why we're seeing it arc around, over, behind.

Anywhere it can go, right.

Any place it can go, because the rock won't let it

go through the rock.

Alabama limestone is a cool customer.

NARRATOR: After flooding the Alabama limestone

with electricity, the team will now review the super slow motion

camera footage.

So on the limestone, it's clearly tracing the surface.

CAMERON: Yep.

PAUL: Yeah, the current does not want to go through that rock.

NARRATOR: Since the electricity went around,

the limestone and the rock didn't

heat up with thermal energy, this proves

that it's not conductive.

All right.

So what's up next?

We got to go with blue opal.

OK.

NARRATOR: The second rock they'll test

is a blue opal, which was collected from the surface

of Mount Shasta.

This gemstone is also found across the world

and is known to be a poor conductor

of heat and electricity.

So if this sample from Mount Shasta

is like the blue opal from the rest of the world,

electrical current should go around the rock,

and it shouldn't heat up.

So look at this.

This is going right into the open.

- Wow, look at that. - It is.

ANDY: This is going right into the open.

PAUL: Wow, look at that.

That means the stone is conducting the energy.

NARRATOR: The team is with Cameron Prince at Mount Shasta,

testing rocks native to the area with a Tesla coil to see

if they can conduct or absorb electricity.

Not only is it going into the blue opal,

but it's only one stream of power coming

from the Tesla coil, too.

It's not splitting in any way.

Interesting.

It's totally different behavior.

ANDY: Completely different.

Totally different.

NARRATOR: They're testing a theory

that rather than releasing what many believe is healing energy,

the mountain actually absorbs energy away

from the outside environment.

It's not heating up, though.

Oh. Or is it?

Yep, it is. There we go.

There we go.

PAUL: For sure.

Look at that.

Pretty good.

For sure, without a doubt, the rock heated up.

So we know at least thermal energy from the electric current

got into the rock.

Now it's going to look cool.

NARRATOR: After flooding the blue opal with electricity,

the team will now review the footage on the slow motion

camera to see if they can confirm that electricity was

conducting through the rock.

PAUL: It's like it's just absorbing all of it.

Exactly.

It really is taking all of the current,

carrying all of the current, conducting all of the current.

No arcing at all.

And then, of course, we did see the temperature increase, which

means thermal energy was being stored

from the electrical energy that was being input.

I mean, one thing is, is evident, right,

is that the rock from Mount Shasta

is behaving completely differently

from the Alabama stone.

ANDY: Yeah, I agree.

NARRATOR: A quartz crystal taken from deep inside the Mount

Shasta caves is the final rock the team will test.

The caves are one of the places they investigated

during their first visit here.

It was in these caverns that they documented

a strange anomaly, when a parabolic microphone failed

to record their voice and the sound waves seemed to be

swallowed up by the mountain.

I'm just going to do a real quick listen through.

Hold on, hold on.

MAN: There's nothing.

ANDY: There's no data.

But I did say three, two, one.

Absolutely.

You did.

What if the cave is absorbing the energy we put out there?

Wait, what?

I am very suspicious right now that there could

be some kind of event where the phenomenon

here is consuming energy.

So you're saying the cave is somehow drawing energy away

so the mic can't pick it up.

How would that be possible?

NARRATOR: Quartz crystal around the world

is considered to be a poor conductor of electricity.

So now, the team will test to see if the quartz from the Mount

Shasta caves is unique.

If the electrical current is forced around the crystal,

it will show that it's also non-conductive.

But if it absorbs the electricity,

it will show the quartz crystal at Mount

Shasta is conductive and different

from other areas of the world.

PAUL: All right.

Let's see if our courts can hold some power.

[buzzing]

All right.

Once more with feeling.

It's heating up very quickly.

Yeah.

That air gap.

Wow, look at that!

I mean, it's creating tons of thermal energy.

Look at the arc.

It's got a-- it's more prominent toward the rock

than it is the coil.

ANDY: Yeah, how do you explain that?

I don't know.

It's pretty wild.

Yeah.

Oh, you got fire.

We got fire.

Oh.

You cooked it.

It's smoking.

PAUL: Here we go.

ANDY: You can see it going through it.

You can see it going through it.

Wow, yeah.

The most intense of all the rock samples that we've had

is really the one that's coming from the caves.

ANDY: That is absolutely going through.

Look at that.

PAUL: Yep.

CAMERON: And then that one's definitely going through.

I was not expecting to see anything like this.

So without a doubt, what we have here

is that these rocks from Mount Shasta, these native rocks,

are more conductive.

They retain thermal energy.

So we know for sure that there's an element of these rocks that

is retaining energy and is converting it

into a different form of energy.

Yeah.

Whereas our control rock didn't do any of those things.

No, it totally went around it.

Yeah.

These are absorbing or passing.

It's a totally different behavior than our control.

We came here to answer the question of whether or not

the phenomenon of Mount Shasta might actually be pulling energy

rather than giving energy. - Yeah.

I mean, certainly there is more to the story

here than this is just, you know, a place

of completely positive energy.

The question is, what is drawing people here?

And what is being drawn from them?

Trying to take it back to the Skinwalker team

and let them make sense of it. - Yeah.

Well, Cameron, thanks again for your help, man.

Welcome back, guys.

We're really excited to see what you have to present to us.

And I know the data portion is going

to be of particular interest.

You know, when we were preparing to go back

to Mount Shasta, Erik, you told us to keep an eye out

for anything that we could collect that would speak

to the source of the energy.

And what we found started off really hot as soon

as we sat with Sheriff LaRue.

Sheriff LaRue said there's been more reports, particularly

from the outlying areas around Mount Shasta

in an area called McCloud.

And this is an area where people very recently are seeing orbs.

They're seeing lights in the sky.

So we set up our first round of experiments at McCloud with

the Nu-Salt laser team, with all of our standard kit,

with the Nu-Salt team there, and with all of the experience

and all of their background.

They were struggling with the inability

to get any of their laser equipment up and running.

While they were struggling with their laser equipment,

we were seeing strange activity on the spectrum analyzer.

Let's tune in to this one and see

if we can't make sense of it.

We've never heard that sound before.

So there's a peak in this plot that's already got my attention.

TRAVIS: Um Hm.

ANDY: But this was one of the things that had us

scratching our heads, for sure. PAUL: Absolutely.

ANDY: We had never seen this before

in any of our investigations.

I've never seen it anywhere except here.

And now that you've found it somewhere else,

I find it really interesting.

OK, look right there.

You see the two off to the right of that?

OK.

And we see this pair of peaks.

And there seems to be like a tradeoff.

Don't move that screen.

But this, guys, I want you all to pay attention to this,

because this is absolutely one of the best, most structured

signals that you've ever caught.

And I'm really excited about it.

Well, the first thing that jumps out at you

is you have this central peak here, right.

And that's at about 1.616.

Now, look, you got structure here.

It's mirror images of each other, right.

And then you got this structure here.

Another mirror image.

And you got this structure here, this structure here.

We call that dual sideband.

These are the sidebands, and this

is your main carrier signal.

This is a communication signal of some sort.

When you see that going that stable

for a long period of time, something

is sending that signal.

That's not a random thing happening.

Question is, what is sending that signal?

Right.

So this is like your Shasta 1.6 gigahertz.

Wow.

Right?

So that night, we actually had multiple persistent signals

that each had a different auditory

response or an auditory output.

It's very rhythmic.

[rhythmic crackling]

That one is just like the other one.

Isn't that's weird?

We're watching the whole noise floor go up.

There's possible mechanisms that Mother Nature can create

electromagnetic phenomena.

But not communication signals.

Not technologically generated signal.

That is a technologically generated signal.

There is a piece of technology somewhere near you

that is doing that, and that's a high tech

piece of technology doing that.

Again, this is all throughout the night

at different phases of the troubleshooting that's

happening with the lasers.

With all this electromagnetic noise,

I don't doubt that Tim and the Nu-Salt

guys were having difficulty. ANDY: Pulling out their hair.

So what were they able to tell you

about the nature of the technical difficulties

they were having?

They couldn't give us any sort of information that explained

why they had failures, why it was

happening on multiple devices, after multiple resets.

So the most they were able to do was run a test pattern.

Which is-- - On what?

What were they shining the lasers at?

Well, the idea originally was to have them hit Mount

Shasta, which we couldn't do.

So the test pattern is really just

into the woods that were sort of, you know,

maybe a couple hundred yards away.

So what does this all mean?

Think about what your original intent was with this experiment.

Your original intent was to shine a laser at the mountain.

And you were not allowed to shine the laser at the mountain.

And whether that's just pure serendipity, which I don't

really believe in, you know, why is the intent

of your experiment befuddled?

Now, our experimentation started at McCloud.

But we also called in Cameron Prince

to help us see if we couldn't identify or help to really hone

in on, is there any sort of difference in how Mount Shasta

rocks in the mountain or in the caves

respond to electrical inputs, and whether or not they

retain any electricity, whether or not

they conduct the electricity?

We had Cameron pack in his carry-on bag a little bit

of Alabama limestone.

Oh, sure.

So that we could get a non-Californian,

non-area sample as a control.

And what we saw with the Alabama limestone

from outside of this region is that it was not conducted.

[buzzing]

Yeah, look at that.

So it must be going around it on the back side.

The Tesla coil and the energy from the Tesla coil

was finding a more conductive path around the stone

than through the stone.

TRAVIS: OK.

So that first sample was our our control,

what it looks like outside of Mount Shasta.

Our final experiment with the actual crystalline rock from

inside Mount Shasta caves--

Look at the arc.

It's got a-- it's more prominent toward the rock

than it is the coil.

Yeah, how do you explain that?

I don't know.

That's pretty wild.

PAUL: Yeah.

Interesting.

TRAVIS: Oh, that is a beautiful picture right there.

- That's a great shot. - That is absolutely beautiful.

And this is from inside the heart of the Shasta caves.

The same caves where there was reported

portal activity that connected back to Mount Shasta itself.

So you guys didn't find the smoking gun,

you found the glowing gun.

PAUL: Yeah.

I like it.

Imagine you're from somewhere else or when else or whatever,

and you repower your systems through some sort of geophysics

or natural phenomena.

And where would you go to recharge your batteries?

You would go to a place where it's clearly easy.

It's natural, it's happening right there.

- Something energetic going on. - Yeah.

It sounds like what we're saying

is that there's a possibility that the mountain itself

is almost amplifying the energy that's being attracted to it.

It's certainly interacting with it.

Whether it's amplifying it, changing it.

The geophysics of Mount Shasta and the surrounding area

is in a symbiotic electromagnetic relationship

with anything else in the area that is electromagnetic.

You may have just validated that Mount

Shasta is a charging station.

You've now taken it out of the realm

of the anecdotal and stories that have been filtering out

of the community for years and were grounding

a lot of that in science.

And it doesn't make it any less mysterious.

In fact, if anything, it makes it that much more baffling.

I think what we're seeing is that the ranch and Mount Shasta

and some of the other places are members of a class

of very special locations.

It may not be exactly the same physics playing out.

But we're seeing commonalities.

And, you know, that's not wasted on me.

And here's where the malevolence or the benevolence

comes into play.

Think about what people keep saying they see there

and stories about portals, stories about UAPs,

or even if it's just some sort of electromagnetic phenomena

that at least gives you the impression of that.

Well, we're asking the question,

you know, is this malevolent?

Is it benevolent?

Is there intentionality associated with it?

You know, it reminds me of the question of, you know,

is fire or sunlight malevolent or benevolent?

You know, it can keep you warm or it can burn you.

So I'm not sure that we should be

attaching intentionality to it.

It's just energetic.

It's like sometimes a brick is just a brick.

I can hit you in the head with it,

or I could build a house with it.

[laughs]

Thank you, gentlemen. This is--

Well, thank you.

--incredible.

Excited for the next one.

BRANDON: Thank you so much. Great work, guys.

PAUL: Thanks, sir.