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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,208 --> 00:00:04,458 NARRATOR: Tonight on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch. 2 00:00:04,542 --> 00:00:06,792 Is Mount Shasta a source of energy 3 00:00:06,875 --> 00:00:09,583 contributing to the experience that people are having, or is it 4 00:00:09,667 --> 00:00:11,958 something much more sinister? 5 00:00:12,042 --> 00:00:14,083 MAN: Bringing her up. 6 00:00:14,208 --> 00:00:15,167 Oh, well, look at that. 7 00:00:15,250 --> 00:00:16,792 Wow, look at that. 8 00:00:16,875 --> 00:00:18,083 - Totally different. - There we go. 9 00:00:18,167 --> 00:00:19,667 There we go. 10 00:00:19,750 --> 00:00:21,708 So Mount Shasta has kind of a long history of people 11 00:00:21,833 --> 00:00:23,083 that have gone missing. 12 00:00:23,208 --> 00:00:24,583 You're talking about people just vanishing, 13 00:00:24,708 --> 00:00:25,625 like without a trace. 14 00:00:25,708 --> 00:00:26,542 That's right. 15 00:00:26,625 --> 00:00:27,958 WOMAN: See those orbs? 16 00:00:28,042 --> 00:00:30,125 This is the light shows that happen every night. 17 00:00:30,208 --> 00:00:32,083 NARRATOR: For years, scientists have 18 00:00:32,167 --> 00:00:36,083 been working to reveal the secrets of Skinwalker Ranch. 19 00:00:36,208 --> 00:00:38,333 But is it possible that the clues 20 00:00:38,375 --> 00:00:41,125 to unlock the mystery are located 21 00:00:41,208 --> 00:00:44,792 beyond the borders of this hub of high strangeness? 22 00:00:44,875 --> 00:00:46,417 Wow. 23 00:00:46,542 --> 00:00:49,500 NARRATOR: Now, an ex-CIA agent and a veteran journalist 24 00:00:49,583 --> 00:00:51,875 have been recruited by the Skinwalker team 25 00:00:51,958 --> 00:00:54,333 to go on a high stakes mission across America. 26 00:00:54,375 --> 00:00:56,167 Look at all this activity that's happening. 27 00:00:56,292 --> 00:00:57,417 PAUL: That's unbelievable. 28 00:00:57,542 --> 00:00:58,750 ANDY: That is right over our heads. 29 00:00:58,833 --> 00:01:00,042 That's it, that's it, right there! 30 00:01:00,125 --> 00:01:01,250 NARRATOR: The goal-- uncover evidence that 31 00:01:01,333 --> 00:01:03,167 may finally expose the truth. 32 00:01:03,250 --> 00:01:04,500 MAN 1: How is this happening? 33 00:01:04,625 --> 00:01:06,000 MAN 2: Now it's going to get interesting. 34 00:01:06,042 --> 00:01:07,083 MAN 3: Look, it's moving! 35 00:01:07,167 --> 00:01:08,083 Look at that! 36 00:01:10,958 --> 00:01:12,292 MAN 4: This is just the beginning. 37 00:01:16,667 --> 00:01:18,958 Well, it's great to be back with you guys. 38 00:01:19,042 --> 00:01:21,708 As we saw in the past, some exciting things 39 00:01:21,792 --> 00:01:23,167 happened at Mount Shasta. 40 00:01:23,208 --> 00:01:26,500 To have so much evidence. 41 00:01:26,625 --> 00:01:29,417 You know, so many unique findings. 42 00:01:29,500 --> 00:01:32,083 The question that we left Mount Shasta with last time 43 00:01:32,167 --> 00:01:33,333 was, why? 44 00:01:33,417 --> 00:01:35,250 Why are we seeing what we're seeing? 45 00:01:35,333 --> 00:01:38,500 What's driving the energy flow coming to and from the mountain? 46 00:01:38,583 --> 00:01:40,958 What helps to explain the incredible anomalies 47 00:01:41,167 --> 00:01:42,208 that are there, really? 48 00:01:42,542 --> 00:01:43,500 And it makes me wonder whether or not 49 00:01:43,542 --> 00:01:45,167 we're dealing with a situation where 50 00:01:45,292 --> 00:01:47,417 energy might be going somewhere, might be disappearing. 51 00:01:47,500 --> 00:01:49,750 NARRATOR: In their previous visit to Mount Shasta, 52 00:01:49,750 --> 00:01:54,042 Andy and Paul investigated this hotspot of strange energy 53 00:01:54,125 --> 00:01:57,167 that draws people from around the world. 54 00:01:57,250 --> 00:02:00,125 WOMAN: OK, totally disorients here. 55 00:02:00,208 --> 00:02:02,000 Look at that. 56 00:02:02,042 --> 00:02:04,167 It's telling me north is that way. 57 00:02:04,250 --> 00:02:06,292 North is this way. 58 00:02:06,375 --> 00:02:08,417 NARRATOR: While investigating at the mountain, 59 00:02:08,542 --> 00:02:11,083 the team recorded anomalous radio 60 00:02:11,208 --> 00:02:15,458 frequencies that corresponded with multiple UAPs. 61 00:02:15,542 --> 00:02:16,125 Look at this. 62 00:02:16,208 --> 00:02:17,167 What is that? 63 00:02:17,208 --> 00:02:18,333 At 1.71 gigahertz. 64 00:02:18,458 --> 00:02:19,875 Oh, here's something right here. 65 00:02:19,958 --> 00:02:21,208 Darted straight across. 66 00:02:21,292 --> 00:02:23,917 ANDY: What is that? 67 00:02:23,917 --> 00:02:27,042 NARRATOR: When they went 16 stories down into the mountain 68 00:02:27,125 --> 00:02:31,333 system, they detected strange radio frequency spikes that 69 00:02:31,417 --> 00:02:34,000 shouldn't be present in a cave. 70 00:02:34,042 --> 00:02:35,375 It seems like as we climb higher 71 00:02:35,458 --> 00:02:37,000 into these more privileged zones, 72 00:02:37,125 --> 00:02:40,000 you see more of these energy bursts. 73 00:02:40,042 --> 00:02:42,750 I can't, for the life of me, figure 74 00:02:42,833 --> 00:02:46,625 out how you get a microwave signal down inside a cave. 75 00:02:46,708 --> 00:02:51,000 Why are we getting 1.6 gigahertz signals inside this cave 76 00:02:51,083 --> 00:02:51,917 at Mount Shasta? 77 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,500 Makes no sense to me. 78 00:02:53,625 --> 00:02:55,917 What there isn't right now is any kind of evidence that's 79 00:02:56,042 --> 00:02:58,875 measurable in nature that shows the energetics of the mountain 80 00:02:58,958 --> 00:03:00,208 itself. 81 00:03:00,292 --> 00:03:01,542 What we're hoping to do is find a way 82 00:03:01,625 --> 00:03:03,000 that we can actually answer that question in 83 00:03:03,125 --> 00:03:04,833 a measurable, scientific way. 84 00:03:04,875 --> 00:03:06,667 Is Mount Shasta special? 85 00:03:06,750 --> 00:03:07,583 Is it different? 86 00:03:07,708 --> 00:03:09,250 Does it contain energy? 87 00:03:09,375 --> 00:03:10,333 Does it retain energy? 88 00:03:10,375 --> 00:03:12,000 Does it transmit energy? 89 00:03:12,042 --> 00:03:13,833 And whether or not there is something that we can measure 90 00:03:13,917 --> 00:03:17,208 that helps to define whether or not the phenomenon 91 00:03:17,333 --> 00:03:22,125 there has some sort of malevolent intent or benevolent 92 00:03:22,208 --> 00:03:24,250 intent, if intent at all. 93 00:03:24,333 --> 00:03:26,333 If there is something uniquely energetic going on 94 00:03:26,375 --> 00:03:28,083 at Mount Shasta, you know, I want to trace 95 00:03:28,208 --> 00:03:29,708 that energy to its source. 96 00:03:29,792 --> 00:03:31,958 You know, I really think that is our ultimate objective. 97 00:03:32,042 --> 00:03:35,208 The holy grail here is finding out its root cause analysis. 98 00:03:35,333 --> 00:03:37,000 You cited several energetic effects 99 00:03:37,083 --> 00:03:39,333 during the course of the work that you've done so far. 100 00:03:39,375 --> 00:03:41,042 I want to continue along that line. 101 00:03:41,125 --> 00:03:42,792 Even if it turns out that we can't 102 00:03:42,875 --> 00:03:47,167 put our finger on a causation, what we do know 103 00:03:47,208 --> 00:03:48,625 is that there is an effect. 104 00:03:48,708 --> 00:03:49,750 Yeah. 105 00:03:49,833 --> 00:03:51,500 People are going there for some reason. 106 00:03:51,542 --> 00:03:54,458 Well, if your first investigation of Mount Shasta 107 00:03:54,542 --> 00:03:58,875 is any indication as to what can hopefully be seen in the future 108 00:03:58,958 --> 00:04:01,875 and what you may yet find out, I think we have 109 00:04:01,958 --> 00:04:03,625 some exciting results in store. 110 00:04:03,708 --> 00:04:06,000 We'll try to move the ball further down the field. 111 00:04:06,042 --> 00:04:07,417 PAUL: Yeah, further up the mountain. 112 00:04:07,500 --> 00:04:08,500 All right. That's what it's all about. 113 00:04:08,542 --> 00:04:09,500 Can't wait to see what you get. 114 00:04:09,542 --> 00:04:10,667 All right. Thanks, guys. 115 00:04:10,792 --> 00:04:11,875 MAN: Good luck, man. PAUL: Thank you. 116 00:04:28,417 --> 00:04:30,000 I'll tell you what, man. 117 00:04:30,042 --> 00:04:31,875 I am really excited to be going back to Mount Shasta. 118 00:04:31,875 --> 00:04:34,167 Our first time here, we were really just looking to see, 119 00:04:34,250 --> 00:04:35,333 can we measure the energy? 120 00:04:35,417 --> 00:04:36,750 Can we quantify the energy? 121 00:04:36,833 --> 00:04:38,792 Can we put data behind the stories? 122 00:04:38,875 --> 00:04:41,083 We put a ton of data behind the stories. 123 00:04:41,208 --> 00:04:42,750 Now we know exactly what we want to do. 124 00:04:42,833 --> 00:04:45,667 We want to push this mountain as far as we can push it. 125 00:04:45,750 --> 00:04:48,500 Right now, we want to provoke this beast as much as we can. 126 00:04:51,125 --> 00:04:54,958 There's such an established culture here that the mountain 127 00:04:55,042 --> 00:04:56,250 is somehow positive. 128 00:04:56,333 --> 00:04:58,500 Right, like it's a benefactor of some sort. 129 00:04:58,583 --> 00:05:00,875 But the data that we collected in our first investigation 130 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,042 could potentially point at something much more sinister. 131 00:05:04,042 --> 00:05:07,542 Is the mountain really a source of energy that's contributing 132 00:05:07,625 --> 00:05:09,500 to the experience that people are having, or is it 133 00:05:09,583 --> 00:05:12,000 somehow like a sink that's taking 134 00:05:12,125 --> 00:05:13,167 energy away from the people-- 135 00:05:13,208 --> 00:05:16,583 Absorbing it. 136 00:05:16,667 --> 00:05:18,542 You know, I'm really looking forward to meeting 137 00:05:18,667 --> 00:05:20,042 up with Sheriff LaRue again. 138 00:05:20,125 --> 00:05:22,583 I mean, he was such a great resource last time. 139 00:05:22,667 --> 00:05:24,333 NARRATOR: In their previous visit, 140 00:05:24,417 --> 00:05:28,333 Paul met with Sheriff Jeremiah LaRue to hear about some 141 00:05:28,417 --> 00:05:31,500 of the anomalies documented at Mount Shasta. 142 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:33,375 This mountain puts out a lot of energy. 143 00:05:33,458 --> 00:05:35,750 It drives a lot of people to this area. 144 00:05:35,875 --> 00:05:38,333 And then we, of course, have the aerial phenomena 145 00:05:38,375 --> 00:05:40,500 that is unique to the area. 146 00:05:40,542 --> 00:05:43,333 NARRATOR: Now, he has some more recent reports 147 00:05:43,375 --> 00:05:44,750 to share with Andy and Paul. 148 00:05:44,833 --> 00:05:46,375 SHERIFF JEREMIAH: Yeah, thanks for coming back. 149 00:05:46,458 --> 00:05:48,000 PAUL: Absolutely. 150 00:05:48,083 --> 00:05:50,208 So Mount Shasta has kind of a long history of people 151 00:05:50,292 --> 00:05:51,833 that have gone missing. 152 00:05:51,875 --> 00:05:52,917 And-- 153 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Like completely disappearing? 154 00:05:54,083 --> 00:05:55,708 Yes. 155 00:05:55,833 --> 00:05:57,750 So we do get a lot of missing people in the area. 156 00:05:57,833 --> 00:06:01,292 People that go, you know, backpacking or hiking. 157 00:06:01,375 --> 00:06:02,542 But we usually find them. 158 00:06:02,625 --> 00:06:03,958 You know, we go out and look for them. 159 00:06:04,042 --> 00:06:06,625 But there's always a handful that we don't find. 160 00:06:06,708 --> 00:06:08,458 You're talking about people just vanishing, 161 00:06:08,542 --> 00:06:09,458 like without a trace. 162 00:06:09,458 --> 00:06:11,125 That's right. 163 00:06:11,208 --> 00:06:12,875 So what about the stories that you get back from the people 164 00:06:12,958 --> 00:06:14,417 who you do recover? 165 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:17,167 What leads to their absence, their disappearance? 166 00:06:17,250 --> 00:06:18,625 Do they have any experiences that are 167 00:06:18,708 --> 00:06:20,333 relevant to our investigation? 168 00:06:20,375 --> 00:06:22,500 So people have reported being disoriented. 169 00:06:22,583 --> 00:06:24,750 Just not feeling themselves, feeling nauseated. 170 00:06:24,833 --> 00:06:27,000 But feeling drawn in a certain direction. 171 00:06:27,042 --> 00:06:29,333 Sometimes people are going to be affected by altitude. 172 00:06:29,417 --> 00:06:30,958 But you're talking about something else. 173 00:06:31,042 --> 00:06:34,000 Like, people are reporting some kind of energy presence, 174 00:06:34,083 --> 00:06:35,625 it sounds like. 175 00:06:35,708 --> 00:06:37,500 Even not at high altitudes, they just feel a sense 176 00:06:37,583 --> 00:06:39,458 that they're not feeling well. 177 00:06:39,542 --> 00:06:41,250 And they feel pulled in a certain direction. 178 00:06:41,375 --> 00:06:43,250 There's maybe more to the story 179 00:06:43,375 --> 00:06:45,667 of the energy of Mount Shasta than, you 180 00:06:45,667 --> 00:06:47,292 know, previously believed. 181 00:06:47,375 --> 00:06:49,583 What we're seeing is high levels of energy. 182 00:06:49,667 --> 00:06:53,417 But we don't know whether the source of energy is underground, 183 00:06:53,542 --> 00:06:56,417 or whether the underground location is drawing 184 00:06:56,500 --> 00:06:59,708 energy from the surface. 185 00:06:59,792 --> 00:07:01,375 So since you were last here, we've had 186 00:07:01,500 --> 00:07:03,375 a lot of additional reports. 187 00:07:03,458 --> 00:07:05,250 Primarily in the McCloud area. 188 00:07:05,333 --> 00:07:07,500 It's about 10, 15 miles from here. 189 00:07:07,542 --> 00:07:09,000 And it's just to the east. 190 00:07:09,042 --> 00:07:11,875 And one of the hot spots is the Healing Place. 191 00:07:11,958 --> 00:07:13,792 Great view of Mount Shasta, and people 192 00:07:13,875 --> 00:07:16,000 report similar things that what you experienced the last time 193 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,750 you were here. 194 00:07:17,833 --> 00:07:20,167 Orbs in the sky or seeing, you know, just different aircraft 195 00:07:20,208 --> 00:07:22,833 or maybe even possibly UAP. 196 00:07:22,958 --> 00:07:24,583 Did people actually file reports? 197 00:07:24,667 --> 00:07:25,833 Is that what you got? 198 00:07:25,875 --> 00:07:27,250 Yeah, I actually have one right here 199 00:07:27,333 --> 00:07:28,875 I can kind of discuss with you. 200 00:07:28,958 --> 00:07:33,292 And it describes a fireball coming down out of the sky. 201 00:07:33,375 --> 00:07:34,083 Can I take this? 202 00:07:34,208 --> 00:07:35,042 Absolutely. 203 00:07:35,125 --> 00:07:36,417 Go ahead and look at it. 204 00:07:36,500 --> 00:07:38,708 ANDY: "UFO protocol has been initiated. 205 00:07:38,792 --> 00:07:41,292 Beale Airforce Base has it on their radar, but is not 206 00:07:41,375 --> 00:07:42,375 at liberty to say what it is." 207 00:07:42,458 --> 00:07:44,458 Wait, what? 208 00:07:44,542 --> 00:07:46,250 It sounds like we should head out to McCloud. 209 00:07:46,375 --> 00:07:48,042 Yeah. 210 00:07:48,125 --> 00:07:49,125 Is it possible for us to get onto the grounds of the healing 211 00:07:49,208 --> 00:07:49,917 place that you mentioned? 212 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:50,792 Yes, absolutely. 213 00:07:50,875 --> 00:07:51,625 Great, OK. 214 00:07:51,708 --> 00:07:53,000 Thank you, Sheriff. 215 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,500 SHERIFF JEREMIAH: Thanks for stopping by. 216 00:07:54,583 --> 00:07:55,333 PAUL: Well, we've got our work cut out for us. 217 00:07:55,500 --> 00:07:57,167 ANDY: Yeah. 218 00:07:57,250 --> 00:08:01,000 NARRATOR: The Healing Place is a nature retreat located 10 miles 219 00:08:01,083 --> 00:08:03,000 southeast of Mount Shasta. 220 00:08:03,083 --> 00:08:05,208 Jamie Mayfield is the owner and has 221 00:08:05,333 --> 00:08:10,292 experienced multiple strange incidents on the property. 222 00:08:10,375 --> 00:08:11,333 It's pretty crazy, huh? 223 00:08:11,417 --> 00:08:12,667 You wake up to that every day. 224 00:08:12,750 --> 00:08:14,000 Every day. It's-- 225 00:08:14,042 --> 00:08:14,833 Amazing. 226 00:08:14,875 --> 00:08:15,583 --gorgeous. 227 00:08:15,667 --> 00:08:16,417 It's like a painting. 228 00:08:16,542 --> 00:08:17,375 It is. 229 00:08:17,458 --> 00:08:19,333 PAUL: Incredible. 230 00:08:19,375 --> 00:08:21,042 So tell us about this place. 231 00:08:21,125 --> 00:08:22,417 How did you end up here? 232 00:08:22,542 --> 00:08:26,458 2018, I came here to look at vacation rental. 233 00:08:26,542 --> 00:08:28,208 I looked at the mountain, and I said, 234 00:08:28,208 --> 00:08:29,833 take me where I need to be. 235 00:08:29,875 --> 00:08:34,042 And this property was listed the day that I came up. 236 00:08:34,125 --> 00:08:37,375 People talk about feeling drawn to be here. 237 00:08:37,458 --> 00:08:39,458 You know, it sounds like you always 238 00:08:39,542 --> 00:08:41,333 knew that you were coming here. 239 00:08:41,458 --> 00:08:42,917 It felt like that. 240 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,833 Jamie, have you had personal experiences here? 241 00:08:45,875 --> 00:08:47,792 Yes. 242 00:08:47,875 --> 00:08:51,000 I was in bed and couldn't sleep. 243 00:08:51,042 --> 00:08:53,833 And I get up, and I go off outside on the deck. 244 00:08:53,875 --> 00:08:57,875 And I saw an orange ship hovering right over those trees. 245 00:09:00,917 --> 00:09:04,417 So I go inside, and I lay down. 246 00:09:04,542 --> 00:09:07,875 And I have my face turned towards the window. 247 00:09:07,958 --> 00:09:11,125 And I see this white orb come right in. 248 00:09:11,208 --> 00:09:13,292 And it's about this big. 249 00:09:13,375 --> 00:09:16,333 And then all of a sudden, I got paralyzed. 250 00:09:16,458 --> 00:09:17,500 Was there a trigger? 251 00:09:17,625 --> 00:09:18,750 Was it-- - Hum. 252 00:09:18,875 --> 00:09:19,375 I hear it. 253 00:09:19,458 --> 00:09:20,333 A hum? 254 00:09:20,417 --> 00:09:21,500 Yeah, I hear a hum. 255 00:09:21,583 --> 00:09:22,833 Hums, paralysis. 256 00:09:22,875 --> 00:09:24,500 I mean, we've heard this stuff before. 257 00:09:24,625 --> 00:09:26,167 I was going to say, these are things that are-- 258 00:09:26,292 --> 00:09:28,542 while your experience is really intense, that we 259 00:09:28,625 --> 00:09:30,792 have heard and seen elsewhere. 260 00:09:30,792 --> 00:09:34,125 We have infrared cameras set up all around this house. 261 00:09:34,208 --> 00:09:35,333 Running every night. 262 00:09:35,417 --> 00:09:36,458 Do you have recordings of those? 263 00:09:36,542 --> 00:09:37,042 Of course, I'll show them to you. 264 00:09:37,125 --> 00:09:37,792 OK, great. 265 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:46,167 This is off of this deck. 266 00:09:46,208 --> 00:09:47,583 See those orbs? 267 00:09:47,667 --> 00:09:49,167 This is the light shows that happen every night. 268 00:09:52,083 --> 00:09:54,458 ANDY: If these are insects, we see no wing activity. 269 00:09:54,583 --> 00:09:55,833 PAUL: No. 270 00:09:55,917 --> 00:09:57,292 And this-- you're going to trip out. 271 00:09:57,375 --> 00:09:58,375 PAUL: That's snow, right? 272 00:09:58,500 --> 00:09:59,583 No. 273 00:09:59,667 --> 00:10:00,625 This is August 23rd. - Whoa. 274 00:10:00,708 --> 00:10:01,625 ANDY: Look at that. 275 00:10:04,333 --> 00:10:05,208 JAMIE: All of my cameras. 276 00:10:05,292 --> 00:10:06,875 PAUL: What is that? 277 00:10:06,958 --> 00:10:08,667 Every single one of these cameras all night long did this. 278 00:10:08,708 --> 00:10:09,958 It's the craziest thing. 279 00:10:10,042 --> 00:10:12,250 Now I've seen it four times since then. 280 00:10:12,375 --> 00:10:13,292 PAUL: What is that, Andy? 281 00:10:13,375 --> 00:10:14,333 What do you think that is? 282 00:10:14,375 --> 00:10:15,292 I have no idea. 283 00:10:15,375 --> 00:10:16,667 It's so concentrated. 284 00:10:16,708 --> 00:10:18,083 It's so intense. 285 00:10:18,208 --> 00:10:19,542 PAUL: It can't be dust. 286 00:10:19,625 --> 00:10:21,083 No, it wouldn't be focused. 287 00:10:21,167 --> 00:10:23,000 It wouldn't have that kind of signature. 288 00:10:23,042 --> 00:10:25,500 And then this was just like a whiteout. 289 00:10:25,583 --> 00:10:28,000 So this one's pretty faint. 290 00:10:28,083 --> 00:10:31,167 But I have a bigger picture that I blew up. 291 00:10:31,208 --> 00:10:32,000 Right there. 292 00:10:32,042 --> 00:10:32,583 PAUL: Whoa. 293 00:10:32,708 --> 00:10:34,000 Look at that baby. 294 00:10:34,083 --> 00:10:35,958 Look, you can see the body and everything. 295 00:10:36,042 --> 00:10:37,500 PAUL: It's like it's looking-- 296 00:10:37,542 --> 00:10:39,000 JAMIE: It's not so warm and fuzzy. 297 00:10:39,042 --> 00:10:41,000 No. 298 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,958 It sounds like a number of the sightings 299 00:10:43,042 --> 00:10:45,042 that you've had have been towards the mountain. 300 00:10:45,167 --> 00:10:47,667 Which is consistent with what we've seen before here as well. 301 00:10:47,708 --> 00:10:49,917 So we need some way of seeing in the dark. 302 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Light enhancement and thermal will let us do that. 303 00:10:52,083 --> 00:10:54,583 If there's a way to instigate a response-- 304 00:10:54,667 --> 00:10:55,708 We're going to try it. 305 00:11:02,458 --> 00:11:05,167 Jamie, I know you hold gatherings here 306 00:11:05,250 --> 00:11:07,000 at the Healing Place, but I bet you've never 307 00:11:07,083 --> 00:11:09,375 seen anything quite like this. 308 00:11:09,375 --> 00:11:12,958 NARRATOR: Andy and Paul are with experiencer Jamie Mayfield 309 00:11:13,042 --> 00:11:15,375 at her nature retreat, the Healing Place, 310 00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:18,542 in the foothills of Mount Shasta, where they're setting 311 00:11:18,625 --> 00:11:20,917 up for their first experiment. 312 00:11:21,042 --> 00:11:23,000 So Jamie, just a really quick walkthrough of what we 313 00:11:23,083 --> 00:11:24,417 have here as we're checking in. 314 00:11:24,542 --> 00:11:25,958 This is a spectrum analyzer that we're 315 00:11:26,042 --> 00:11:27,667 using to listen in to the radio frequency signals, 316 00:11:27,792 --> 00:11:29,500 the radio energy around us. 317 00:11:29,625 --> 00:11:31,667 Here, we have our two UFODAPs. 318 00:11:31,750 --> 00:11:33,167 The UFODAPs are really unique. 319 00:11:33,250 --> 00:11:35,125 You can actually see the displays out there. 320 00:11:35,208 --> 00:11:39,292 What they are is an AI powered camera that are really 321 00:11:39,375 --> 00:11:40,583 going to be eyes on the sky. 322 00:11:40,667 --> 00:11:42,292 They're going to pick up anything 323 00:11:42,375 --> 00:11:45,833 unusual that's not a plane, that's not a satellite. 324 00:11:45,917 --> 00:11:48,833 And really instantly analyze it against a huge library 325 00:11:48,958 --> 00:11:49,958 of information. - Great. 326 00:11:50,083 --> 00:11:50,667 Yeah. 327 00:11:50,708 --> 00:11:51,792 They're very cool. 328 00:11:51,875 --> 00:11:53,208 And then in real time, we'll be 329 00:11:53,292 --> 00:11:54,625 tracking satellite movement around the earth, 330 00:11:54,708 --> 00:11:56,125 specifically around us. 331 00:11:56,208 --> 00:11:57,833 And FAA flight data. 332 00:11:57,875 --> 00:11:59,583 That's also around us. 333 00:11:59,708 --> 00:12:01,667 So between the UFODAPs and these two pieces of equipment here, 334 00:12:01,750 --> 00:12:03,375 we'll be able to track in real time 335 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:05,542 anything we might see and rule out if it's something manmade. 336 00:12:05,625 --> 00:12:07,042 Definitely. 337 00:12:07,167 --> 00:12:08,375 And then the last two cameras that we have here 338 00:12:08,458 --> 00:12:10,000 are thermal imaging cameras. 339 00:12:10,042 --> 00:12:12,042 So you are using infrared at your house. 340 00:12:12,167 --> 00:12:14,500 And the infrared you're using enhances light. 341 00:12:14,542 --> 00:12:16,000 The infrared that we're using here 342 00:12:16,083 --> 00:12:19,500 actually tracks thermal energy instead of light energy. 343 00:12:19,542 --> 00:12:22,333 Now, on the table over here, we have our team from Nu-Salt. Now, 344 00:12:22,458 --> 00:12:24,625 you guys were at Skinwalker Ranch recently, too, right? 345 00:12:24,708 --> 00:12:25,833 Yeah. Yeah, we were. 346 00:12:25,917 --> 00:12:27,542 NARRATOR: Joining the team tonight 347 00:12:27,667 --> 00:12:31,917 are laser experts Tim Anderson and Jeremy Fenton from Nu-Salt 348 00:12:32,042 --> 00:12:35,042 Laser, who've conducted several experiments 349 00:12:35,125 --> 00:12:39,333 at Skinwalker Ranch in an effort to stimulate anomalies. 350 00:12:39,333 --> 00:12:40,167 TIM: Holy cow. 351 00:12:40,250 --> 00:12:41,292 Look at that. 352 00:12:41,375 --> 00:12:42,833 NARRATOR: That resulted in a correlating 353 00:12:42,875 --> 00:12:45,792 UAP sighting in 2021. 354 00:12:45,875 --> 00:12:46,875 - You see this. - Yeah. 355 00:12:46,958 --> 00:12:48,375 What the crap is that? 356 00:12:48,458 --> 00:12:49,833 MAN: Unbelievable. 357 00:12:49,917 --> 00:12:51,750 NARRATOR: Now, Andy and Paul want 358 00:12:51,833 --> 00:12:53,250 to see what will happen when they 359 00:12:53,333 --> 00:12:55,375 shine lasers in the direction of Mount 360 00:12:55,458 --> 00:12:58,583 Shasta from Jamie's property. 361 00:12:58,667 --> 00:13:00,500 Now, how many projectors do we have here? 362 00:13:00,625 --> 00:13:02,542 We have two 40-watt laser light show 363 00:13:02,625 --> 00:13:05,000 projectors and we have two 100-watt 364 00:13:05,042 --> 00:13:06,667 laser light show projectors. 365 00:13:06,792 --> 00:13:08,750 NARRATOR: In this experiment, the lasers 366 00:13:08,833 --> 00:13:11,958 will scan toward Mount Shasta in a linear pattern. 367 00:13:12,083 --> 00:13:14,542 By adding light energy to the environment, 368 00:13:14,667 --> 00:13:17,292 the hope is to stimulate UAP activity. 369 00:13:17,375 --> 00:13:20,458 Or the beams could detect other aerial phenomena 370 00:13:20,542 --> 00:13:25,333 if they bend or disappear while refracting off the anomaly. 371 00:13:25,417 --> 00:13:27,000 How's everything going, Tim? 372 00:13:27,042 --> 00:13:29,083 Well, we're having some connection problems right now, 373 00:13:29,167 --> 00:13:31,042 so we're trying to connect the computer 374 00:13:31,125 --> 00:13:32,833 to the laser projectors. 375 00:13:32,958 --> 00:13:34,708 Is this something the kind of problem you've had before, 376 00:13:34,792 --> 00:13:35,708 or is it-- 377 00:13:35,792 --> 00:13:36,708 No, it's not very common. 378 00:13:36,792 --> 00:13:38,167 PAUL: Huh. 379 00:13:38,250 --> 00:13:39,917 In fact, all these lasers were working in the shop 380 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,500 when we tested them yesterday. 381 00:13:41,542 --> 00:13:42,625 This is weird, right? 382 00:13:42,708 --> 00:13:44,000 This is very weird. 383 00:13:44,042 --> 00:13:46,792 But we're going to stay at it, and I'll let you 384 00:13:46,875 --> 00:13:48,333 know if we have some changes. - OK. 385 00:13:48,417 --> 00:13:49,167 Yeah, OK. 386 00:13:49,208 --> 00:13:50,500 Thanks. 387 00:13:50,500 --> 00:13:52,667 Nu-Salt Laser is a team of proven professionals. 388 00:13:52,708 --> 00:13:55,375 I mean, these guys have taken their equipment to Skinwalker 389 00:13:55,458 --> 00:13:58,500 Ranch and had it work in incredibly difficult conditions 390 00:13:58,625 --> 00:14:00,583 on a very unpredictable ranch. 391 00:14:00,667 --> 00:14:02,458 But somehow, Mount Shasta seems to be 392 00:14:02,542 --> 00:14:04,083 getting the better of them. 393 00:14:04,208 --> 00:14:06,917 Well, let's start getting some baseline readings here. 394 00:14:07,042 --> 00:14:09,167 So I want to check the spectrum. 395 00:14:09,250 --> 00:14:12,333 All right, rounding up on 1.4 gigahertz, 396 00:14:12,417 --> 00:14:15,542 where we're starting to get into privileged bands. 397 00:14:15,625 --> 00:14:20,208 The team is monitoring the privileged 1.4 to 1.8 gigahertz 398 00:14:20,292 --> 00:14:23,833 radio frequencies-- a range that often coincides 399 00:14:23,875 --> 00:14:26,417 with strange anomalies. 400 00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:27,292 Ooh. 401 00:14:27,375 --> 00:14:27,875 What's all that? 402 00:14:27,958 --> 00:14:29,000 PAUL: Wow. 403 00:14:29,042 --> 00:14:31,000 That's different, for sure. 404 00:14:31,167 --> 00:14:33,625 See if we can zoom in on this a little bit. 405 00:14:33,708 --> 00:14:35,708 Significant. 406 00:14:35,792 --> 00:14:37,375 ANDY: Do you know what this reminds me of, 407 00:14:37,375 --> 00:14:39,542 is what Travis and Eric were telling us 408 00:14:39,625 --> 00:14:43,042 about with a comb pattern on the radio spectrum. 409 00:14:43,125 --> 00:14:44,833 You can see the energy swells happening, too. 410 00:14:44,958 --> 00:14:47,583 You see that on the left? 411 00:14:47,667 --> 00:14:48,583 Whoa! You see that? 412 00:14:48,708 --> 00:14:49,458 Look at that. 413 00:14:49,542 --> 00:14:50,708 Look at that. 414 00:14:50,833 --> 00:14:52,667 ANDY: That is strange. 415 00:14:52,708 --> 00:14:53,625 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 416 00:14:53,708 --> 00:14:54,458 Look at this, Paul. 417 00:14:54,542 --> 00:14:55,875 Look at this, Paul. 418 00:14:55,958 --> 00:14:59,125 Look at what happens right at 1.6 gigahertz. 419 00:14:59,208 --> 00:15:01,000 What could cause that? 420 00:15:01,125 --> 00:15:03,042 I've never seen anything like that. 421 00:15:03,125 --> 00:15:06,250 ANDY: The energy seems to change right at 1.6 gigahertz. 422 00:15:08,542 --> 00:15:10,500 I'm going to keep going up and see what we see. 423 00:15:14,083 --> 00:15:17,083 PAUL: What's that massive spike there? 424 00:15:17,167 --> 00:15:19,083 ANDY: I don't know. 425 00:15:19,167 --> 00:15:21,583 Let's tune into this one and see if we can't make sense of it. 426 00:15:21,667 --> 00:15:25,000 [crackling] 427 00:15:29,083 --> 00:15:30,542 We've never heard that sound before. 428 00:15:33,208 --> 00:15:34,042 Yes. 429 00:15:34,125 --> 00:15:37,833 I don't know what this is, Paul. 430 00:15:37,917 --> 00:15:40,917 That kind of transmission is not like anything 431 00:15:40,917 --> 00:15:42,042 I've ever heard before. 432 00:15:42,125 --> 00:15:45,667 What that is, it's beyond me. 433 00:15:45,708 --> 00:15:48,042 Boys, we're seeing all sorts of strange stuff on our side. 434 00:15:48,167 --> 00:15:49,667 How are things looking for you? 435 00:15:49,708 --> 00:15:52,333 So right now, I'm reloading the software completely. 436 00:15:52,417 --> 00:15:54,875 A fresh version, and to see if that will 437 00:15:54,958 --> 00:15:56,292 connect with the projectors. 438 00:15:56,375 --> 00:15:58,417 Have you seen a failure like this before? 439 00:15:58,500 --> 00:15:59,792 Nowhere. 440 00:15:59,875 --> 00:16:01,000 Yeah, this is a first for me. 441 00:16:01,083 --> 00:16:03,500 Usually they work perfectly. 442 00:16:03,542 --> 00:16:05,208 And they're not. 443 00:16:05,292 --> 00:16:08,042 Let me take us up above 1.7 gigahertz and see what happens. 444 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,292 Here's another strange signal. 445 00:16:15,375 --> 00:16:17,625 Let's see if we can zoom in on this guy. 446 00:16:17,708 --> 00:16:19,542 1.745. 447 00:16:19,667 --> 00:16:22,583 [electronic whirring] 448 00:16:22,667 --> 00:16:24,167 PAUL: That sound like to you? 449 00:16:24,250 --> 00:16:27,250 I've never heard anything like that. 450 00:16:27,375 --> 00:16:32,167 There's a short period cycling in there. 451 00:16:32,250 --> 00:16:35,042 [mocks electronic sounds] 452 00:16:35,125 --> 00:16:38,208 And then there's a clicking sound in the back. 453 00:16:38,292 --> 00:16:43,083 Let see if can get us closer to the main center of this sound. 454 00:16:47,250 --> 00:16:48,833 It gets more intense, as you say, 455 00:16:48,917 --> 00:16:52,667 as we focus in on the main peak. 456 00:16:52,750 --> 00:16:58,000 And then it starts to die out as we get into the larger waveform. 457 00:16:58,125 --> 00:16:59,667 NARRATOR: Andy and Paul have just 458 00:16:59,708 --> 00:17:02,917 discovered energy signals on the spectrum analyzer 459 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,250 in multiple frequency zones. 460 00:17:05,333 --> 00:17:08,792 And each signal looks and sounds different, 461 00:17:08,875 --> 00:17:12,958 which indicates that they're coming from separate sources. 462 00:17:13,042 --> 00:17:15,292 There's something generating intense energy 463 00:17:15,375 --> 00:17:17,250 in the entire Shasta region. 464 00:17:22,667 --> 00:17:23,583 Oh. 465 00:17:23,667 --> 00:17:25,292 Look at this, look at this. 466 00:17:25,375 --> 00:17:27,458 Do you see the rhythm, the pattern of it? 467 00:17:27,542 --> 00:17:29,333 Look at that. 468 00:17:29,458 --> 00:17:31,500 What could be driving something like that? 469 00:17:31,542 --> 00:17:32,250 ANDY: Steady. 470 00:17:32,333 --> 00:17:33,833 PAUL: That's a pulse. 471 00:17:33,917 --> 00:17:34,875 ANDY: Whoa! PAUL: Whoa. 472 00:17:34,958 --> 00:17:36,000 ANDY: Did you see the waves? 473 00:17:36,042 --> 00:17:37,792 PAUL: What is going on? 474 00:17:37,875 --> 00:17:40,500 Let's listen in. 475 00:17:40,625 --> 00:17:44,083 [crackling] 476 00:17:45,042 --> 00:17:46,625 It's very rhythmic. 477 00:17:46,708 --> 00:17:47,833 That's really interesting. 478 00:17:47,917 --> 00:17:48,708 ANDY: Very strange. 479 00:17:48,792 --> 00:17:49,500 Look at that fall. 480 00:17:49,583 --> 00:17:51,208 What is that? 481 00:17:51,375 --> 00:17:53,708 After our previous investigation in Mount Shasta, 482 00:17:53,792 --> 00:17:56,833 I absolutely expected to see aerial phenomenon. 483 00:17:56,875 --> 00:17:57,875 Orbs. 484 00:17:57,958 --> 00:17:59,500 Strange, unidentified UAPs. 485 00:17:59,542 --> 00:18:01,333 Something centering on the mountain. 486 00:18:01,417 --> 00:18:03,458 But we're not seeing that at all. 487 00:18:03,542 --> 00:18:06,417 Instead, we're seeing this extremely strange footprint 488 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:09,333 of radio frequency energy that's happening on the spectrum, 489 00:18:09,375 --> 00:18:12,333 both in terms of shape and in terms of sound itself. 490 00:18:12,458 --> 00:18:17,292 In between the crackles, there is a-- 491 00:18:17,375 --> 00:18:18,750 So there is information there. 492 00:18:18,833 --> 00:18:20,167 There is stuff there. 493 00:18:20,250 --> 00:18:21,500 That's interesting. 494 00:18:21,583 --> 00:18:24,792 [rhythmic crackling] 495 00:18:27,208 --> 00:18:28,500 Paul, what a strange thing. 496 00:18:28,583 --> 00:18:30,792 Yeah, I don't know what to make of that. 497 00:18:30,875 --> 00:18:31,833 ANDY: Yeah, we're back up. 498 00:18:31,917 --> 00:18:33,583 It has power now. 499 00:18:33,667 --> 00:18:36,167 NARRATOR: The Nu-Salt Laser team has been dead in the water 500 00:18:36,208 --> 00:18:39,375 so far because of strange connection issues. 501 00:18:39,458 --> 00:18:42,667 So now, they're bypassing their computer controller 502 00:18:42,708 --> 00:18:45,542 and simply operating the projectors locally. 503 00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:47,250 When you're ready, I'll turn that on. 504 00:18:47,333 --> 00:18:48,667 PAUL: Yeah, go for it. Let's give it a shot. 505 00:18:48,750 --> 00:18:50,292 OK. 506 00:18:50,375 --> 00:18:51,458 We don't know how much longer before our equipment 507 00:18:51,542 --> 00:18:52,333 stops working. 508 00:18:52,375 --> 00:18:54,750 Yeah. 509 00:18:54,875 --> 00:18:55,875 All right. 510 00:18:55,958 --> 00:18:56,958 Lasers on. - Hey! 511 00:18:57,042 --> 00:18:58,000 - Look at that. - All right. 512 00:18:58,042 --> 00:18:58,750 Great. 513 00:19:02,625 --> 00:19:04,917 Tim, are you running, like, a test pattern right now? 514 00:19:05,042 --> 00:19:06,042 That's what that is? 515 00:19:06,125 --> 00:19:07,292 That's exactly what I'm doing. 516 00:19:07,375 --> 00:19:08,083 OK. 517 00:19:08,208 --> 00:19:09,792 Yeah, look. 518 00:19:09,875 --> 00:19:12,083 NARRATOR: Because Nu-Salt is bypassing their computer 519 00:19:12,208 --> 00:19:16,000 controller, the lasers only have the ability to project patterns 520 00:19:16,083 --> 00:19:19,333 several feet in front of them in the direction of the mountain. 521 00:19:19,458 --> 00:19:21,708 So we're seeing some response here in the radio spectrum 522 00:19:21,792 --> 00:19:22,708 potentially. 523 00:19:22,708 --> 00:19:23,958 See, look at this. 524 00:19:24,042 --> 00:19:24,958 You see this? ANDY: Yeah. 525 00:19:25,083 --> 00:19:26,542 I wonder what's going on there. 526 00:19:26,625 --> 00:19:27,375 TIM: I don't know. 527 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:29,250 But it started with the lasers. 528 00:19:29,333 --> 00:19:33,000 Look at how broad the energy is with the lasers on. 529 00:19:33,083 --> 00:19:35,000 But it wasn't there a second ago. 530 00:19:35,042 --> 00:19:37,250 Strange phenomenon on the radio spectrum 531 00:19:37,250 --> 00:19:39,125 seemed to be a solid indicator that you're 532 00:19:39,208 --> 00:19:40,375 in some kind of a hotspot. 533 00:19:40,458 --> 00:19:42,125 But what's really blowing me away 534 00:19:42,208 --> 00:19:44,083 is that what we're seeing on the spectrum right now, 535 00:19:44,083 --> 00:19:46,000 that's tied to the fact that the Nu-Salt team 536 00:19:46,083 --> 00:19:48,000 just started sending out electrical impulses 537 00:19:48,042 --> 00:19:49,000 with their lasers. 538 00:19:49,042 --> 00:19:51,375 Through 1.78 gigahertz. 539 00:19:51,458 --> 00:19:53,125 Continuing and continuing. 540 00:19:53,208 --> 00:19:54,625 PAUL: Wow. 541 00:19:54,708 --> 00:19:56,875 I mean, it's, for sure, slapping us in the face. 542 00:19:56,958 --> 00:20:00,375 That's a wide surge in energy across the spectrum. 543 00:20:00,458 --> 00:20:01,167 Whoa! 544 00:20:04,875 --> 00:20:06,208 We lose a projector? 545 00:20:06,292 --> 00:20:07,292 ANDY: Looks like it. 546 00:20:11,833 --> 00:20:16,083 We lost the projector at the same time we lost the signal. 547 00:20:16,167 --> 00:20:18,167 Holy smokes, Paul. 548 00:20:18,250 --> 00:20:21,667 The lasers came on, and the radio spectrum changed. 549 00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:24,708 We lose 50% of our laser capability. 550 00:20:24,792 --> 00:20:25,792 - Yeah. - And-- 551 00:20:25,875 --> 00:20:27,083 And the signal changed again. 552 00:20:27,083 --> 00:20:28,458 And the signal changes again. 553 00:20:28,542 --> 00:20:30,833 We often have equipment problems. 554 00:20:30,917 --> 00:20:32,417 But this is on a new level. 555 00:20:32,542 --> 00:20:33,125 Yeah. 556 00:20:33,208 --> 00:20:34,750 Really. 557 00:20:34,833 --> 00:20:37,375 And guys, I mean, this is the best we can do, right. 558 00:20:37,458 --> 00:20:39,042 We can't get out of the test pattern. 559 00:20:39,125 --> 00:20:40,333 This is it. - Yeah, this is it. 560 00:20:40,375 --> 00:20:41,958 It just seems like there's too much 561 00:20:42,042 --> 00:20:44,500 interference between our computer 562 00:20:44,583 --> 00:20:46,375 and our laser light show projectors. 563 00:20:46,458 --> 00:20:48,458 What would you expect to happen if the energy 564 00:20:48,542 --> 00:20:50,375 was being pulled from it? 565 00:20:50,458 --> 00:20:53,458 It would have connection problems. 566 00:20:53,458 --> 00:20:55,958 Like what we're talking about right now. 567 00:20:56,042 --> 00:20:57,417 I don't know, man. 568 00:20:57,500 --> 00:20:58,167 Yes. 569 00:20:58,250 --> 00:20:59,958 Very strange. 570 00:21:00,042 --> 00:21:01,208 All right. 571 00:21:01,292 --> 00:21:03,208 Well, with that, thank you, Jamie. 572 00:21:03,333 --> 00:21:04,292 Thanks, guys. 573 00:21:04,375 --> 00:21:05,958 And I guess let's break it down. 574 00:21:06,042 --> 00:21:07,000 Break it down 575 00:21:07,125 --> 00:21:08,333 JAMIE: Well, thank you, guys, too. 576 00:21:08,375 --> 00:21:10,000 ANDY: Pack it up. 577 00:21:10,083 --> 00:21:11,833 Thank you. 578 00:21:16,792 --> 00:21:19,458 I did not expect to see what happened at McCloud. 579 00:21:19,542 --> 00:21:22,500 With the equipment failure, with the spectrum analyzer, 580 00:21:22,583 --> 00:21:24,208 with the audio signal that turned 581 00:21:24,375 --> 00:21:27,500 into an actual palpitation of some kind of heartbeat 582 00:21:27,583 --> 00:21:29,250 or some sort of metallic drumbeat. 583 00:21:29,375 --> 00:21:30,833 That was wild. 584 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,417 The stories about Shasta that I've heard the most about 585 00:21:33,500 --> 00:21:35,375 are what happens in the skies around the place. 586 00:21:35,458 --> 00:21:38,667 The orbs, the, you know, the UFOs, the UAPs. 587 00:21:38,750 --> 00:21:40,833 But this was a whole new dimension. 588 00:21:40,875 --> 00:21:42,458 And now it certainly seems like there 589 00:21:42,542 --> 00:21:44,417 is some sort of strange phenomenon emanating 590 00:21:44,500 --> 00:21:46,167 from the energy in the mountain. - Right. 591 00:21:46,208 --> 00:21:47,875 I feel like the mountain is trying 592 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,125 to keep its secrets from us, and we need to get 593 00:21:50,208 --> 00:21:51,333 a little bit more aggressive. 594 00:21:51,417 --> 00:21:53,000 What do you think we should do now? 595 00:21:53,042 --> 00:21:57,875 The idea that the mountain is somehow supercharged with energy 596 00:21:57,958 --> 00:22:00,667 or that it's it's able to deliver that energy 597 00:22:00,750 --> 00:22:02,333 to the community around it, I mean, 598 00:22:02,375 --> 00:22:04,000 that's something that we should be 599 00:22:04,083 --> 00:22:05,792 able to actually measure in the geology of the mountain itself. 600 00:22:05,875 --> 00:22:07,500 Right. 601 00:22:07,583 --> 00:22:08,667 We just have to be able to take a sample of the mountain 602 00:22:08,750 --> 00:22:10,625 and then expose it to certain energy. 603 00:22:10,625 --> 00:22:12,875 And one of the perfect energy forms that I think we can use 604 00:22:12,958 --> 00:22:14,375 is electrical energy. 605 00:22:14,458 --> 00:22:17,458 I want to take rock samples from Mount Shasta. 606 00:22:17,542 --> 00:22:18,833 OK. 607 00:22:18,917 --> 00:22:22,333 And kind of run a Frankenstein experiment on them. 608 00:22:22,417 --> 00:22:25,083 Put a bolt on either side and see 609 00:22:25,167 --> 00:22:27,458 if we can run current through them and what they'll do. 610 00:22:27,542 --> 00:22:29,000 Wait, so you want to try to run 611 00:22:29,083 --> 00:22:30,833 electricity through the rocks? 612 00:22:30,875 --> 00:22:33,167 Because that'll give us a chance to actually see, 613 00:22:33,292 --> 00:22:35,167 do they have their own energy? 614 00:22:35,292 --> 00:22:36,958 Do they conduct energy? 615 00:22:37,042 --> 00:22:37,958 Or do they store energy? 616 00:22:38,042 --> 00:22:39,750 Right. 617 00:22:39,875 --> 00:22:41,333 I mean, no matter what, we're going to see how they respond. 618 00:22:41,417 --> 00:22:43,333 And I think I know just the person to help us. 619 00:22:43,375 --> 00:22:44,792 Well, I think I know where you're going. 620 00:22:44,875 --> 00:22:45,833 Tesla coils. Cameron. 621 00:22:45,875 --> 00:22:46,667 Exactly right. 622 00:22:46,750 --> 00:22:47,917 Cameron Prince. 623 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,667 NARRATOR: In 2020, the Skinwalker team 624 00:22:50,708 --> 00:22:53,500 brought in Tesla coil expert Cameron Prince 625 00:22:53,583 --> 00:22:55,333 to stimulate the environment. 626 00:22:55,417 --> 00:22:56,667 Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait. 627 00:22:56,750 --> 00:22:58,167 What is that? 628 00:22:58,250 --> 00:23:00,667 NARRATOR: Which seemed to trigger the appearance of a UAP. 629 00:23:00,708 --> 00:23:04,375 Andy and Paul will now bring Cameron to Mount Shasta 630 00:23:04,375 --> 00:23:06,792 to do an experiment with the Tesla coil 631 00:23:06,875 --> 00:23:10,000 never before tried at Skinwalker Ranch. 632 00:23:10,083 --> 00:23:12,958 With a Tesla coil, the energy goes in the path 633 00:23:13,042 --> 00:23:14,250 of least resistance. 634 00:23:14,375 --> 00:23:16,542 So if we see the energy jump from the Tesla coil 635 00:23:16,667 --> 00:23:19,125 to a rock from Mount Shasta, we'll 636 00:23:19,208 --> 00:23:21,958 also be able to measure whether or not that electrical current 637 00:23:22,042 --> 00:23:23,333 carries through the rock. 638 00:23:23,417 --> 00:23:25,583 And we'll learn with one experiment two answers. 639 00:23:25,667 --> 00:23:27,625 One, are the rocks attracting the energy? 640 00:23:27,708 --> 00:23:29,833 And two, will they store the energy or conduct it? 641 00:23:29,917 --> 00:23:31,125 Yeah. OK. 642 00:23:31,208 --> 00:23:32,708 I like it. 643 00:23:32,833 --> 00:23:36,333 I mean, it's crazy, but, I mean, at this point, you know, 644 00:23:36,458 --> 00:23:37,292 why not? 645 00:23:37,375 --> 00:23:37,875 Yeah. 646 00:23:49,042 --> 00:23:51,417 Cameron, I'm really pumped to have you back tonight. 647 00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:52,917 It's always great to see you, man. 648 00:23:53,042 --> 00:23:55,208 We know literally sparks are going to fly whenever 649 00:23:55,292 --> 00:23:56,250 Cameron Prince is around. 650 00:23:56,333 --> 00:23:57,333 You know it. 651 00:23:57,417 --> 00:23:59,042 Glad to be here. Thank you. 652 00:23:59,125 --> 00:24:01,000 NARRATOR: Andy and Paul have brought in Skinwalker veteran 653 00:24:01,042 --> 00:24:05,167 Cameron Prince to shoot electricity from a Tesla coil 654 00:24:05,292 --> 00:24:07,833 into the rocks here at Mount Shasta. 655 00:24:07,833 --> 00:24:09,542 So we have two main objectives tonight. 656 00:24:09,625 --> 00:24:11,125 One is to determine whether or not 657 00:24:11,208 --> 00:24:14,375 the rocks that are native to this area can conduct energy. 658 00:24:14,458 --> 00:24:15,792 Second, we want to know whether or not 659 00:24:15,875 --> 00:24:18,292 these rocks can absorb energy. 660 00:24:18,375 --> 00:24:20,750 Now, I gave you a number of native samples. 661 00:24:20,833 --> 00:24:22,417 Where are those? Have you prepped those already? 662 00:24:22,542 --> 00:24:23,542 They're right back here. 663 00:24:23,625 --> 00:24:25,000 We've got most of them. - OK. 664 00:24:25,083 --> 00:24:26,000 OK. 665 00:24:26,083 --> 00:24:28,125 Beautiful. 666 00:24:28,208 --> 00:24:29,667 Oh, wow. 667 00:24:29,708 --> 00:24:31,333 So you've got them set up already with electrodes. 668 00:24:31,417 --> 00:24:32,875 Yes. 669 00:24:32,958 --> 00:24:34,583 NARRATOR: Cameron has prepped multiple rocks 670 00:24:34,667 --> 00:24:36,667 so they can see what happens when they 671 00:24:36,750 --> 00:24:39,375 try to run the electricity from the Tesla coil 672 00:24:39,458 --> 00:24:40,833 through each stone. 673 00:24:40,958 --> 00:24:42,792 I have no idea what it's going to do. 674 00:24:42,875 --> 00:24:45,500 I've never done this sort of thing before with a Tesla coil. 675 00:24:45,542 --> 00:24:47,083 So first for me. 676 00:24:47,208 --> 00:24:49,625 We're going to light these rocks up and find out. 677 00:24:49,708 --> 00:24:51,667 NARRATOR: For this experiment, Cameron 678 00:24:51,708 --> 00:24:55,000 has attached an electrode to both sides of each rock. 679 00:24:55,125 --> 00:24:58,500 He'll then fire off the electricity from the Tesla coil 680 00:24:58,542 --> 00:25:00,917 into the rock to see what happens. 681 00:25:01,042 --> 00:25:03,125 If the current goes around the rock, 682 00:25:03,208 --> 00:25:06,917 it's repelling the electricity and is not conductive. 683 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,042 If the current goes through the rock, 684 00:25:09,125 --> 00:25:13,958 it's absorbing the electricity and conducting energy. 685 00:25:14,042 --> 00:25:15,458 OK. 686 00:25:15,542 --> 00:25:17,375 NARRATOR: In addition to firing off the Tesla coil, 687 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:19,417 the team will be using their tools 688 00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:21,958 to monitor for any other strange anomalies 689 00:25:22,042 --> 00:25:25,667 happening within the rocks or in the surrounding environment. 690 00:25:25,792 --> 00:25:27,833 So Cameron, we've set up all of our, like, 691 00:25:27,917 --> 00:25:29,333 kind of core equipment here. 692 00:25:29,417 --> 00:25:30,958 We've got multiple thermal cameras at work. 693 00:25:31,042 --> 00:25:33,417 We have a spectrum analyzer to check the radio spectrum. 694 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:35,625 We also have a pretty cool tool here. 695 00:25:35,708 --> 00:25:37,042 It's a big lens, guys. 696 00:25:37,125 --> 00:25:39,250 So this is a high speed camera that's actually 697 00:25:39,333 --> 00:25:43,583 taking 1,910 frames per second. 698 00:25:43,667 --> 00:25:46,667 NARRATOR: The Edgertronic camera is a professional grade 699 00:25:46,708 --> 00:25:49,750 high speed camera that can capture video 80 700 00:25:49,833 --> 00:25:52,083 times slower than in real life. 701 00:25:52,167 --> 00:25:55,292 It was originally invented for professional baseball 702 00:25:55,375 --> 00:25:58,083 to slow down 100 mile per hour pitches 703 00:25:58,167 --> 00:26:02,375 to show the spin of the ball for training purposes. 704 00:26:02,458 --> 00:26:05,250 And we'll be able to review the footage right 705 00:26:05,375 --> 00:26:06,458 after we run this experiment. 706 00:26:06,542 --> 00:26:07,875 Great. 707 00:26:07,875 --> 00:26:09,667 We have no idea what's going to happen here. 708 00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:12,375 We are literally lighting up rocks with electricity 709 00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:13,625 from a Tesla coil. 710 00:26:13,708 --> 00:26:15,125 This is going to be fascinating. 711 00:26:15,208 --> 00:26:16,542 This is awesome. 712 00:26:16,625 --> 00:26:18,250 NARRATOR: The first rock they'll be testing 713 00:26:18,333 --> 00:26:21,458 is a piece of limestone that Cameron brought with him 714 00:26:21,542 --> 00:26:23,042 from his home in Alabama. 715 00:26:23,125 --> 00:26:25,208 They'll use this as a control rock 716 00:26:25,292 --> 00:26:29,000 to compare against the rocks found here at Mount Shasta. 717 00:26:29,083 --> 00:26:30,083 Bringing her up. 718 00:26:30,208 --> 00:26:31,917 [buzzing] 719 00:26:32,042 --> 00:26:33,000 Oh, whoa. 720 00:26:33,042 --> 00:26:34,958 Wow, look at that. 721 00:26:35,042 --> 00:26:36,667 Look at the rock smoking, man. 722 00:26:36,792 --> 00:26:38,542 PAUL: I was just going to say, it immediately starts. 723 00:26:44,167 --> 00:26:45,208 ANDY: Yeah, look at that. 724 00:26:49,333 --> 00:26:50,208 Look at that. 725 00:26:54,375 --> 00:26:55,583 It's not heating up, though. 726 00:27:01,375 --> 00:27:04,167 Yeah, I'd say it's not conductive. 727 00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:06,417 So what we saw there was the arc actually going 728 00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:07,792 around the outside of the rock. 729 00:27:07,875 --> 00:27:10,000 Just jump the rock completely to the electrode 730 00:27:10,083 --> 00:27:11,167 on the other side. 731 00:27:11,208 --> 00:27:13,833 ANDY: Exactly. 732 00:27:13,917 --> 00:27:15,333 Is it hot to the touch, Cameron? 733 00:27:15,417 --> 00:27:16,208 Nope. 734 00:27:19,458 --> 00:27:21,042 What we're seeing is a rock that 735 00:27:21,125 --> 00:27:24,125 is rejecting any electrical current through it at all. 736 00:27:24,125 --> 00:27:27,458 And that's why we're seeing it arc around, over, behind. 737 00:27:27,542 --> 00:27:29,042 Anywhere it can go, right. 738 00:27:29,042 --> 00:27:30,542 Any place it can go, because the rock won't let it 739 00:27:30,667 --> 00:27:32,667 go through the rock. 740 00:27:32,750 --> 00:27:36,000 Alabama limestone is a cool customer. 741 00:27:36,083 --> 00:27:38,875 NARRATOR: After flooding the Alabama limestone 742 00:27:38,875 --> 00:27:43,167 with electricity, the team will now review the super slow motion 743 00:27:43,250 --> 00:27:44,833 camera footage. 744 00:27:44,875 --> 00:27:47,125 So on the limestone, it's clearly tracing the surface. 745 00:27:47,208 --> 00:27:48,833 CAMERON: Yep. 746 00:27:48,875 --> 00:27:50,125 PAUL: Yeah, the current does not want to go through that rock. 747 00:27:50,208 --> 00:27:52,333 NARRATOR: Since the electricity went around, 748 00:27:52,417 --> 00:27:54,500 the limestone and the rock didn't 749 00:27:54,542 --> 00:27:57,333 heat up with thermal energy, this proves 750 00:27:57,375 --> 00:27:59,542 that it's not conductive. 751 00:27:59,625 --> 00:28:00,333 All right. 752 00:28:00,458 --> 00:28:02,708 So what's up next? 753 00:28:02,792 --> 00:28:04,000 We got to go with blue opal. 754 00:28:04,083 --> 00:28:05,167 OK. 755 00:28:05,250 --> 00:28:06,917 NARRATOR: The second rock they'll test 756 00:28:07,042 --> 00:28:10,000 is a blue opal, which was collected from the surface 757 00:28:10,083 --> 00:28:11,250 of Mount Shasta. 758 00:28:11,333 --> 00:28:14,500 This gemstone is also found across the world 759 00:28:14,583 --> 00:28:16,625 and is known to be a poor conductor 760 00:28:16,708 --> 00:28:18,667 of heat and electricity. 761 00:28:18,750 --> 00:28:20,875 So if this sample from Mount Shasta 762 00:28:20,958 --> 00:28:23,750 is like the blue opal from the rest of the world, 763 00:28:23,833 --> 00:28:26,667 electrical current should go around the rock, 764 00:28:26,708 --> 00:28:30,458 and it shouldn't heat up. 765 00:28:30,542 --> 00:28:32,083 So look at this. 766 00:28:32,167 --> 00:28:33,667 This is going right into the open. 767 00:28:33,792 --> 00:28:34,792 - Wow, look at that. - It is. 768 00:28:39,542 --> 00:28:41,208 ANDY: This is going right into the open. 769 00:28:41,333 --> 00:28:42,375 PAUL: Wow, look at that. 770 00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:45,333 That means the stone is conducting the energy. 771 00:28:45,417 --> 00:28:48,583 NARRATOR: The team is with Cameron Prince at Mount Shasta, 772 00:28:48,667 --> 00:28:52,125 testing rocks native to the area with a Tesla coil to see 773 00:28:52,208 --> 00:28:56,083 if they can conduct or absorb electricity. 774 00:28:56,167 --> 00:28:58,583 Not only is it going into the blue opal, 775 00:28:58,667 --> 00:29:02,292 but it's only one stream of power coming 776 00:29:02,375 --> 00:29:03,542 from the Tesla coil, too. 777 00:29:03,625 --> 00:29:05,375 It's not splitting in any way. 778 00:29:05,458 --> 00:29:06,458 Interesting. 779 00:29:06,542 --> 00:29:07,625 It's totally different behavior. 780 00:29:07,708 --> 00:29:08,667 ANDY: Completely different. 781 00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:09,875 Totally different. 782 00:29:09,958 --> 00:29:11,583 NARRATOR: They're testing a theory 783 00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:14,292 that rather than releasing what many believe is healing energy, 784 00:29:14,375 --> 00:29:17,583 the mountain actually absorbs energy away 785 00:29:17,667 --> 00:29:20,583 from the outside environment. 786 00:29:20,667 --> 00:29:23,250 It's not heating up, though. 787 00:29:23,333 --> 00:29:24,583 Oh. Or is it? 788 00:29:24,667 --> 00:29:25,375 Yep, it is. There we go. 789 00:29:25,458 --> 00:29:26,250 There we go. 790 00:29:26,333 --> 00:29:27,000 PAUL: For sure. 791 00:29:29,375 --> 00:29:31,125 Look at that. 792 00:29:31,208 --> 00:29:33,708 Pretty good. 793 00:29:33,792 --> 00:29:35,875 For sure, without a doubt, the rock heated up. 794 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,500 So we know at least thermal energy from the electric current 795 00:29:38,583 --> 00:29:40,333 got into the rock. 796 00:29:40,417 --> 00:29:41,958 Now it's going to look cool. 797 00:29:42,042 --> 00:29:44,333 NARRATOR: After flooding the blue opal with electricity, 798 00:29:44,417 --> 00:29:47,167 the team will now review the footage on the slow motion 799 00:29:47,250 --> 00:29:50,750 camera to see if they can confirm that electricity was 800 00:29:50,833 --> 00:29:52,708 conducting through the rock. 801 00:29:52,792 --> 00:29:54,542 PAUL: It's like it's just absorbing all of it. 802 00:29:54,625 --> 00:29:55,833 Exactly. 803 00:29:55,917 --> 00:29:57,542 It really is taking all of the current, 804 00:29:57,625 --> 00:30:00,208 carrying all of the current, conducting all of the current. 805 00:30:00,333 --> 00:30:01,958 No arcing at all. 806 00:30:02,042 --> 00:30:03,667 And then, of course, we did see the temperature increase, which 807 00:30:03,708 --> 00:30:05,167 means thermal energy was being stored 808 00:30:05,208 --> 00:30:07,917 from the electrical energy that was being input. 809 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,917 I mean, one thing is, is evident, right, 810 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,125 is that the rock from Mount Shasta 811 00:30:12,208 --> 00:30:14,042 is behaving completely differently 812 00:30:14,125 --> 00:30:15,875 from the Alabama stone. 813 00:30:15,958 --> 00:30:17,542 ANDY: Yeah, I agree. 814 00:30:17,625 --> 00:30:20,292 NARRATOR: A quartz crystal taken from deep inside the Mount 815 00:30:20,375 --> 00:30:24,000 Shasta caves is the final rock the team will test. 816 00:30:24,042 --> 00:30:26,625 The caves are one of the places they investigated 817 00:30:26,708 --> 00:30:28,333 during their first visit here. 818 00:30:28,417 --> 00:30:30,875 It was in these caverns that they documented 819 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,375 a strange anomaly, when a parabolic microphone failed 820 00:30:34,458 --> 00:30:37,667 to record their voice and the sound waves seemed to be 821 00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:39,417 swallowed up by the mountain. 822 00:30:39,542 --> 00:30:41,667 I'm just going to do a real quick listen through. 823 00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:42,583 Hold on, hold on. 824 00:30:42,667 --> 00:30:43,500 MAN: There's nothing. 825 00:30:43,542 --> 00:30:44,542 ANDY: There's no data. 826 00:30:44,625 --> 00:30:45,792 But I did say three, two, one. 827 00:30:45,875 --> 00:30:46,583 Absolutely. 828 00:30:46,667 --> 00:30:48,333 You did. 829 00:30:48,458 --> 00:30:52,417 What if the cave is absorbing the energy we put out there? 830 00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:53,958 Wait, what? 831 00:30:54,042 --> 00:30:56,167 I am very suspicious right now that there could 832 00:30:56,250 --> 00:30:58,667 be some kind of event where the phenomenon 833 00:30:58,792 --> 00:31:01,917 here is consuming energy. 834 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,000 So you're saying the cave is somehow drawing energy away 835 00:31:05,042 --> 00:31:06,833 so the mic can't pick it up. 836 00:31:06,875 --> 00:31:08,625 How would that be possible? 837 00:31:08,708 --> 00:31:10,208 NARRATOR: Quartz crystal around the world 838 00:31:10,333 --> 00:31:13,292 is considered to be a poor conductor of electricity. 839 00:31:13,375 --> 00:31:16,333 So now, the team will test to see if the quartz from the Mount 840 00:31:16,375 --> 00:31:18,333 Shasta caves is unique. 841 00:31:18,417 --> 00:31:21,375 If the electrical current is forced around the crystal, 842 00:31:21,458 --> 00:31:24,250 it will show that it's also non-conductive. 843 00:31:24,333 --> 00:31:26,292 But if it absorbs the electricity, 844 00:31:26,375 --> 00:31:28,583 it will show the quartz crystal at Mount 845 00:31:28,667 --> 00:31:31,083 Shasta is conductive and different 846 00:31:31,208 --> 00:31:33,750 from other areas of the world. 847 00:31:33,833 --> 00:31:35,167 PAUL: All right. 848 00:31:35,208 --> 00:31:37,667 Let's see if our courts can hold some power. 849 00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:40,167 [buzzing] 850 00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:40,875 All right. 851 00:31:40,958 --> 00:31:42,000 Once more with feeling. 852 00:31:51,917 --> 00:31:53,792 It's heating up very quickly. 853 00:31:53,875 --> 00:31:55,875 Yeah. 854 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:56,833 That air gap. 855 00:31:56,875 --> 00:31:57,625 Wow, look at that! 856 00:32:00,375 --> 00:32:03,875 I mean, it's creating tons of thermal energy. 857 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,583 Look at the arc. 858 00:32:05,667 --> 00:32:09,417 It's got a-- it's more prominent toward the rock 859 00:32:09,542 --> 00:32:10,708 than it is the coil. 860 00:32:10,833 --> 00:32:12,292 ANDY: Yeah, how do you explain that? 861 00:32:12,292 --> 00:32:13,417 I don't know. 862 00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:14,292 It's pretty wild. 863 00:32:14,375 --> 00:32:17,083 Yeah. 864 00:32:17,167 --> 00:32:18,458 Oh, you got fire. 865 00:32:18,542 --> 00:32:19,250 We got fire. 866 00:32:22,375 --> 00:32:23,250 Oh. 867 00:32:23,375 --> 00:32:24,625 You cooked it. 868 00:32:24,708 --> 00:32:25,417 It's smoking. 869 00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:31,292 PAUL: Here we go. 870 00:32:31,375 --> 00:32:33,500 ANDY: You can see it going through it. 871 00:32:33,625 --> 00:32:35,542 You can see it going through it. 872 00:32:35,625 --> 00:32:37,250 Wow, yeah. 873 00:32:37,333 --> 00:32:39,500 The most intense of all the rock samples that we've had 874 00:32:39,542 --> 00:32:45,833 is really the one that's coming from the caves. 875 00:32:45,917 --> 00:32:47,500 ANDY: That is absolutely going through. 876 00:32:47,542 --> 00:32:48,333 Look at that. 877 00:32:48,417 --> 00:32:50,000 PAUL: Yep. 878 00:32:50,042 --> 00:32:53,500 CAMERON: And then that one's definitely going through. 879 00:32:53,542 --> 00:32:56,083 I was not expecting to see anything like this. 880 00:32:56,167 --> 00:32:57,750 So without a doubt, what we have here 881 00:32:57,833 --> 00:33:01,583 is that these rocks from Mount Shasta, these native rocks, 882 00:33:01,667 --> 00:33:03,542 are more conductive. 883 00:33:03,667 --> 00:33:06,292 They retain thermal energy. 884 00:33:06,375 --> 00:33:10,250 So we know for sure that there's an element of these rocks that 885 00:33:10,375 --> 00:33:13,333 is retaining energy and is converting it 886 00:33:13,417 --> 00:33:15,167 into a different form of energy. 887 00:33:15,250 --> 00:33:16,625 Yeah. 888 00:33:16,708 --> 00:33:18,292 Whereas our control rock didn't do any of those things. 889 00:33:18,375 --> 00:33:19,708 No, it totally went around it. 890 00:33:19,792 --> 00:33:20,958 Yeah. 891 00:33:21,042 --> 00:33:23,458 These are absorbing or passing. 892 00:33:23,542 --> 00:33:26,542 It's a totally different behavior than our control. 893 00:33:26,625 --> 00:33:29,167 We came here to answer the question of whether or not 894 00:33:29,208 --> 00:33:33,167 the phenomenon of Mount Shasta might actually be pulling energy 895 00:33:33,250 --> 00:33:34,458 rather than giving energy. - Yeah. 896 00:33:34,542 --> 00:33:36,250 I mean, certainly there is more to the story 897 00:33:36,333 --> 00:33:38,208 here than this is just, you know, a place 898 00:33:38,333 --> 00:33:40,542 of completely positive energy. 899 00:33:40,625 --> 00:33:43,083 The question is, what is drawing people here? 900 00:33:43,167 --> 00:33:45,167 And what is being drawn from them? 901 00:33:45,250 --> 00:33:47,167 Trying to take it back to the Skinwalker team 902 00:33:47,208 --> 00:33:49,083 and let them make sense of it. - Yeah. 903 00:33:49,167 --> 00:33:50,625 Well, Cameron, thanks again for your help, man. 904 00:33:57,208 --> 00:33:58,792 Welcome back, guys. 905 00:33:58,875 --> 00:34:01,375 We're really excited to see what you have to present to us. 906 00:34:01,458 --> 00:34:03,375 And I know the data portion is going 907 00:34:03,458 --> 00:34:04,958 to be of particular interest. 908 00:34:05,042 --> 00:34:06,500 You know, when we were preparing to go back 909 00:34:06,542 --> 00:34:08,500 to Mount Shasta, Erik, you told us to keep an eye out 910 00:34:08,542 --> 00:34:10,708 for anything that we could collect that would speak 911 00:34:10,792 --> 00:34:12,417 to the source of the energy. 912 00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:15,250 And what we found started off really hot as soon 913 00:34:15,333 --> 00:34:16,917 as we sat with Sheriff LaRue. 914 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,000 Sheriff LaRue said there's been more reports, particularly 915 00:34:20,083 --> 00:34:22,208 from the outlying areas around Mount Shasta 916 00:34:22,292 --> 00:34:24,333 in an area called McCloud. 917 00:34:24,417 --> 00:34:29,042 And this is an area where people very recently are seeing orbs. 918 00:34:29,042 --> 00:34:30,667 They're seeing lights in the sky. 919 00:34:30,708 --> 00:34:33,042 So we set up our first round of experiments at McCloud with 920 00:34:33,167 --> 00:34:36,250 the Nu-Salt laser team, with all of our standard kit, 921 00:34:36,333 --> 00:34:39,167 with the Nu-Salt team there, and with all of the experience 922 00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:40,417 and all of their background. 923 00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:42,125 They were struggling with the inability 924 00:34:42,208 --> 00:34:45,667 to get any of their laser equipment up and running. 925 00:34:45,792 --> 00:34:48,167 While they were struggling with their laser equipment, 926 00:34:48,250 --> 00:34:51,333 we were seeing strange activity on the spectrum analyzer. 927 00:34:51,458 --> 00:34:52,875 Let's tune in to this one and see 928 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,125 if we can't make sense of it. 929 00:34:56,208 --> 00:34:58,917 We've never heard that sound before. 930 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,083 So there's a peak in this plot that's already got my attention. 931 00:35:02,167 --> 00:35:03,500 TRAVIS: Um Hm. 932 00:35:03,583 --> 00:35:04,833 ANDY: But this was one of the things that had us 933 00:35:04,875 --> 00:35:05,958 scratching our heads, for sure. PAUL: Absolutely. 934 00:35:06,042 --> 00:35:06,833 ANDY: We had never seen this before 935 00:35:06,917 --> 00:35:08,042 in any of our investigations. 936 00:35:08,167 --> 00:35:10,417 I've never seen it anywhere except here. 937 00:35:10,542 --> 00:35:13,958 And now that you've found it somewhere else, 938 00:35:14,042 --> 00:35:15,125 I find it really interesting. 939 00:35:15,208 --> 00:35:16,500 OK, look right there. 940 00:35:16,583 --> 00:35:18,417 You see the two off to the right of that? 941 00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:19,333 OK. 942 00:35:19,417 --> 00:35:21,375 And we see this pair of peaks. 943 00:35:21,458 --> 00:35:24,250 And there seems to be like a tradeoff. 944 00:35:24,333 --> 00:35:25,833 Don't move that screen. 945 00:35:25,958 --> 00:35:27,875 But this, guys, I want you all to pay attention to this, 946 00:35:27,958 --> 00:35:32,083 because this is absolutely one of the best, most structured 947 00:35:32,167 --> 00:35:34,458 signals that you've ever caught. 948 00:35:34,542 --> 00:35:37,167 And I'm really excited about it. 949 00:35:37,208 --> 00:35:38,917 Well, the first thing that jumps out at you 950 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,750 is you have this central peak here, right. 951 00:35:41,875 --> 00:35:44,000 And that's at about 1.616. 952 00:35:44,125 --> 00:35:47,083 Now, look, you got structure here. 953 00:35:47,208 --> 00:35:49,000 It's mirror images of each other, right. 954 00:35:49,083 --> 00:35:51,292 And then you got this structure here. 955 00:35:51,375 --> 00:35:52,833 Another mirror image. 956 00:35:52,917 --> 00:35:55,000 And you got this structure here, this structure here. 957 00:35:55,042 --> 00:35:56,375 We call that dual sideband. 958 00:35:56,458 --> 00:35:58,167 These are the sidebands, and this 959 00:35:58,250 --> 00:36:01,208 is your main carrier signal. 960 00:36:01,375 --> 00:36:04,542 This is a communication signal of some sort. 961 00:36:04,667 --> 00:36:06,500 When you see that going that stable 962 00:36:06,583 --> 00:36:08,833 for a long period of time, something 963 00:36:08,875 --> 00:36:10,417 is sending that signal. 964 00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:13,750 That's not a random thing happening. 965 00:36:13,833 --> 00:36:17,667 Question is, what is sending that signal? 966 00:36:17,708 --> 00:36:19,000 Right. 967 00:36:19,083 --> 00:36:25,625 So this is like your Shasta 1.6 gigahertz. 968 00:36:25,708 --> 00:36:28,333 Wow. 969 00:36:28,417 --> 00:36:30,250 Right? 970 00:36:30,333 --> 00:36:33,042 So that night, we actually had multiple persistent signals 971 00:36:33,167 --> 00:36:35,833 that each had a different auditory 972 00:36:35,917 --> 00:36:39,833 response or an auditory output. 973 00:36:39,917 --> 00:36:40,875 It's very rhythmic. 974 00:36:40,875 --> 00:36:44,167 [rhythmic crackling] 975 00:36:48,375 --> 00:36:50,375 That one is just like the other one. 976 00:36:50,458 --> 00:36:51,667 Isn't that's weird? 977 00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:55,458 We're watching the whole noise floor go up. 978 00:36:55,542 --> 00:36:59,833 There's possible mechanisms that Mother Nature can create 979 00:36:59,917 --> 00:37:01,208 electromagnetic phenomena. 980 00:37:01,292 --> 00:37:03,208 But not communication signals. 981 00:37:03,333 --> 00:37:06,667 Not technologically generated signal. 982 00:37:06,792 --> 00:37:08,667 That is a technologically generated signal. 983 00:37:08,750 --> 00:37:11,500 There is a piece of technology somewhere near you 984 00:37:11,625 --> 00:37:14,292 that is doing that, and that's a high tech 985 00:37:14,375 --> 00:37:15,542 piece of technology doing that. 986 00:37:15,625 --> 00:37:17,333 Again, this is all throughout the night 987 00:37:17,375 --> 00:37:19,458 at different phases of the troubleshooting that's 988 00:37:19,542 --> 00:37:21,000 happening with the lasers. 989 00:37:21,083 --> 00:37:23,125 With all this electromagnetic noise, 990 00:37:23,208 --> 00:37:26,625 I don't doubt that Tim and the Nu-Salt 991 00:37:26,708 --> 00:37:28,500 guys were having difficulty. ANDY: Pulling out their hair. 992 00:37:28,583 --> 00:37:29,833 So what were they able to tell you 993 00:37:29,917 --> 00:37:31,375 about the nature of the technical difficulties 994 00:37:31,458 --> 00:37:33,167 they were having? 995 00:37:33,208 --> 00:37:35,667 They couldn't give us any sort of information that explained 996 00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:37,375 why they had failures, why it was 997 00:37:37,458 --> 00:37:40,542 happening on multiple devices, after multiple resets. 998 00:37:40,625 --> 00:37:43,000 So the most they were able to do was run a test pattern. 999 00:37:43,083 --> 00:37:44,333 Which is-- - On what? 1000 00:37:44,333 --> 00:37:46,208 What were they shining the lasers at? 1001 00:37:46,333 --> 00:37:48,500 Well, the idea originally was to have them hit Mount 1002 00:37:48,583 --> 00:37:50,500 Shasta, which we couldn't do. 1003 00:37:50,542 --> 00:37:52,167 So the test pattern is really just 1004 00:37:52,167 --> 00:37:54,750 into the woods that were sort of, you know, 1005 00:37:54,833 --> 00:37:57,042 maybe a couple hundred yards away. 1006 00:37:57,042 --> 00:37:59,583 So what does this all mean? 1007 00:37:59,667 --> 00:38:02,625 Think about what your original intent was with this experiment. 1008 00:38:02,708 --> 00:38:05,875 Your original intent was to shine a laser at the mountain. 1009 00:38:05,958 --> 00:38:09,708 And you were not allowed to shine the laser at the mountain. 1010 00:38:09,792 --> 00:38:12,125 And whether that's just pure serendipity, which I don't 1011 00:38:12,208 --> 00:38:17,125 really believe in, you know, why is the intent 1012 00:38:17,208 --> 00:38:20,542 of your experiment befuddled? 1013 00:38:20,625 --> 00:38:23,167 Now, our experimentation started at McCloud. 1014 00:38:23,292 --> 00:38:25,000 But we also called in Cameron Prince 1015 00:38:25,042 --> 00:38:28,667 to help us see if we couldn't identify or help to really hone 1016 00:38:28,792 --> 00:38:32,667 in on, is there any sort of difference in how Mount Shasta 1017 00:38:32,792 --> 00:38:35,500 rocks in the mountain or in the caves 1018 00:38:35,542 --> 00:38:38,708 respond to electrical inputs, and whether or not they 1019 00:38:38,833 --> 00:38:40,375 retain any electricity, whether or not 1020 00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:41,917 they conduct the electricity? 1021 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,750 We had Cameron pack in his carry-on bag a little bit 1022 00:38:44,875 --> 00:38:46,125 of Alabama limestone. 1023 00:38:46,208 --> 00:38:47,458 Oh, sure. 1024 00:38:47,542 --> 00:38:48,958 So that we could get a non-Californian, 1025 00:38:49,042 --> 00:38:51,583 non-area sample as a control. 1026 00:38:51,583 --> 00:38:53,708 And what we saw with the Alabama limestone 1027 00:38:53,792 --> 00:38:57,333 from outside of this region is that it was not conducted. 1028 00:38:57,417 --> 00:38:59,708 [buzzing] 1029 00:38:59,833 --> 00:39:00,833 Yeah, look at that. 1030 00:39:03,625 --> 00:39:06,792 So it must be going around it on the back side. 1031 00:39:06,875 --> 00:39:09,375 The Tesla coil and the energy from the Tesla coil 1032 00:39:09,375 --> 00:39:11,542 was finding a more conductive path around the stone 1033 00:39:11,667 --> 00:39:12,708 than through the stone. 1034 00:39:12,833 --> 00:39:13,917 TRAVIS: OK. 1035 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,500 So that first sample was our our control, 1036 00:39:15,667 --> 00:39:17,417 what it looks like outside of Mount Shasta. 1037 00:39:17,542 --> 00:39:22,333 Our final experiment with the actual crystalline rock from 1038 00:39:22,375 --> 00:39:24,417 inside Mount Shasta caves-- 1039 00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:26,000 Look at the arc. 1040 00:39:26,083 --> 00:39:29,917 It's got a-- it's more prominent toward the rock 1041 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,042 than it is the coil. 1042 00:39:31,125 --> 00:39:32,667 Yeah, how do you explain that? 1043 00:39:32,750 --> 00:39:33,792 I don't know. 1044 00:39:33,875 --> 00:39:34,750 That's pretty wild. 1045 00:39:34,833 --> 00:39:35,750 PAUL: Yeah. 1046 00:39:35,833 --> 00:39:37,375 Interesting. 1047 00:39:37,458 --> 00:39:38,792 TRAVIS: Oh, that is a beautiful picture right there. 1048 00:39:38,875 --> 00:39:40,583 - That's a great shot. - That is absolutely beautiful. 1049 00:39:40,583 --> 00:39:43,500 And this is from inside the heart of the Shasta caves. 1050 00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:46,292 The same caves where there was reported 1051 00:39:46,292 --> 00:39:49,500 portal activity that connected back to Mount Shasta itself. 1052 00:39:49,542 --> 00:39:51,167 So you guys didn't find the smoking gun, 1053 00:39:51,250 --> 00:39:52,458 you found the glowing gun. 1054 00:39:52,542 --> 00:39:53,292 PAUL: Yeah. 1055 00:39:53,375 --> 00:39:55,083 I like it. 1056 00:39:55,167 --> 00:39:58,792 Imagine you're from somewhere else or when else or whatever, 1057 00:39:58,875 --> 00:40:05,000 and you repower your systems through some sort of geophysics 1058 00:40:05,042 --> 00:40:06,833 or natural phenomena. 1059 00:40:06,833 --> 00:40:12,000 And where would you go to recharge your batteries? 1060 00:40:12,083 --> 00:40:15,333 You would go to a place where it's clearly easy. 1061 00:40:15,417 --> 00:40:16,917 It's natural, it's happening right there. 1062 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,500 - Something energetic going on. - Yeah. 1063 00:40:18,583 --> 00:40:20,167 It sounds like what we're saying 1064 00:40:20,208 --> 00:40:22,083 is that there's a possibility that the mountain itself 1065 00:40:22,208 --> 00:40:24,833 is almost amplifying the energy that's being attracted to it. 1066 00:40:24,958 --> 00:40:26,833 It's certainly interacting with it. 1067 00:40:26,875 --> 00:40:29,833 Whether it's amplifying it, changing it. 1068 00:40:29,917 --> 00:40:33,333 The geophysics of Mount Shasta and the surrounding area 1069 00:40:33,375 --> 00:40:36,875 is in a symbiotic electromagnetic relationship 1070 00:40:36,958 --> 00:40:41,583 with anything else in the area that is electromagnetic. 1071 00:40:41,667 --> 00:40:44,375 You may have just validated that Mount 1072 00:40:44,458 --> 00:40:46,542 Shasta is a charging station. 1073 00:40:46,625 --> 00:40:48,750 You've now taken it out of the realm 1074 00:40:48,833 --> 00:40:53,542 of the anecdotal and stories that have been filtering out 1075 00:40:53,625 --> 00:40:56,500 of the community for years and were grounding 1076 00:40:56,583 --> 00:40:58,833 a lot of that in science. 1077 00:40:58,917 --> 00:41:01,833 And it doesn't make it any less mysterious. 1078 00:41:01,875 --> 00:41:07,833 In fact, if anything, it makes it that much more baffling. 1079 00:41:07,958 --> 00:41:11,708 I think what we're seeing is that the ranch and Mount Shasta 1080 00:41:11,833 --> 00:41:15,292 and some of the other places are members of a class 1081 00:41:15,375 --> 00:41:17,167 of very special locations. 1082 00:41:17,208 --> 00:41:19,583 It may not be exactly the same physics playing out. 1083 00:41:19,667 --> 00:41:22,292 But we're seeing commonalities. 1084 00:41:22,375 --> 00:41:23,958 And, you know, that's not wasted on me. 1085 00:41:24,042 --> 00:41:26,167 And here's where the malevolence or the benevolence 1086 00:41:26,250 --> 00:41:27,750 comes into play. 1087 00:41:27,833 --> 00:41:29,667 Think about what people keep saying they see there 1088 00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:32,958 and stories about portals, stories about UAPs, 1089 00:41:33,042 --> 00:41:36,667 or even if it's just some sort of electromagnetic phenomena 1090 00:41:36,708 --> 00:41:38,542 that at least gives you the impression of that. 1091 00:41:38,625 --> 00:41:39,583 Well, we're asking the question, 1092 00:41:39,708 --> 00:41:41,000 you know, is this malevolent? 1093 00:41:41,042 --> 00:41:42,333 Is it benevolent? 1094 00:41:42,417 --> 00:41:43,833 Is there intentionality associated with it? 1095 00:41:43,958 --> 00:41:45,833 You know, it reminds me of the question of, you know, 1096 00:41:45,917 --> 00:41:48,833 is fire or sunlight malevolent or benevolent? 1097 00:41:48,875 --> 00:41:51,333 You know, it can keep you warm or it can burn you. 1098 00:41:51,375 --> 00:41:52,708 So I'm not sure that we should be 1099 00:41:52,792 --> 00:41:55,417 attaching intentionality to it. 1100 00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:57,042 It's just energetic. 1101 00:41:57,125 --> 00:41:59,958 It's like sometimes a brick is just a brick. 1102 00:42:00,042 --> 00:42:01,667 I can hit you in the head with it, 1103 00:42:01,708 --> 00:42:03,417 or I could build a house with it. 1104 00:42:03,542 --> 00:42:05,500 [laughs] 1105 00:42:05,625 --> 00:42:07,042 Thank you, gentlemen. This is-- 1106 00:42:07,042 --> 00:42:07,833 Well, thank you. 1107 00:42:07,917 --> 00:42:09,333 --incredible. 1108 00:42:09,375 --> 00:42:10,792 Excited for the next one. 1109 00:42:10,875 --> 00:42:12,167 BRANDON: Thank you so much. Great work, guys. 1110 00:42:12,250 --> 00:42:12,875 PAUL: Thanks, sir. 79005

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