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Tonight on "Beyond Skinwalker Ranch."

The power of two.

Some of the results that we got here last time

were just off the charts.

Who knows what's going to happen now that we've got Emily here?

OK, Daddy, here we go.

Directly overhead.

We've got nothing between here

and the Atlantic Ocean.

Nothing at all? Nope.

This guy's right above us, man.

This is a privileged frequency zone.

And we are in the middle of the Florida Everglades.

Right.

Why would that happen?

Whoa.

What was that?

Exactly.

What was that?

We didn't have our biggest

breakthrough until after we started

reviewing some of our footage.

Well, I think we have a bona fide

unidentified aerial phenomena event.

For years, scientists have

been working to reveal the secrets of Skinwalker Ranch.

But is it possible that the clues

to unlock the mystery are located

beyond the borders of this hub of high strangeness?

Wow.

Now, an ex-CIA agent and a veteran journalist

have been recruited by the Skinwalker team

to go on a high stakes mission across America.

Look at all this activity that's happening.

That's unbelievable.

That is right over our heads.

That's it. That's it right there.

The goal-- uncover evidence that

may finally expose the truth.

How is this happening?

Now it's going to get interesting.

Look, it's moving!

Look at that.

Oh!

This is just the beginning.

All right, let's do it.

Hold on just 1 second.

I'm just going to strap you.

You okay? Um hmm.

Awesome.

We've got all of our stuff set up outside.

Let's do it.

This is exciting, guys.

We've got you both hooked up.

Here we go.

The team is working with neuroscientist Dr. James

Thompson, continuing their research

on experiencer Chris Bledsoe.

Last year, Andy and Paul traveled to North Carolina

to meet Chris Bledsoe, who claims

to have had an extraterrestrial encounter

in 2007 on the Cape Fear River.

This fire was swirling, and these little flames

were shooting off of it.

I never thought about UFOs, but I knew

it wasn't anything that we had.

Chris believes that afterwards, he

formed a lasting connection with UAP phenomena.

I'm broadcasting my intentions in every direction,

and I'm asking them to come this time right now.

Here it comes.

You see it coming?

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

What the hell.

I don't know what this is.

Last week, Andy and Paul brought Chris

to the world-renowned Monroe Institute, a research center

focused on the study of human consciousness

to do controlled brainwave tests.

With the help of Dr. Thompson, they

first studied Chris with Paul as a control subject

and found their brains seemed to react differently

to orbs that appeared.

Paul's a little more cognitive.

Now he's thinking about things, whereas Chris,

Chris's brainwaves are larger and slower.

Next, they isolated Chris

in a completely sealed off copper

room that blocked the energy of the outside world

to see if he'd have brainwave interactions with orb phenomena.

And he did.

Andy, he's gesturing.

Paul, I see an orb right here, flying overhead.

Son of a [bleep].

That's unbelievable.

Now, they're capping off the Bledsoe brain experiment

by bringing in a new test subject, Chris's daughter,

Emily, who claims to have a similar relationship

with the phenomenon despite not having been at her father's

original reported encounter.

I was 10 years old when the Cape

Fear River incident happened.

And I just remember believing my dad 100%

very soon after the phenomenon started showing around me.

And it hasn't stopped since.

I can't say for sure why it is attached to me,

but my intuition tells me that my openness and connection

with my dad and his experiences made

me open to it at such a young age that I was awakened to it.

This is also me.

This is also my story.

By bringing Emily to the Monroe Institute

and testing her brain to see if her claims are true,

the team also hopes to learn more about

how the phenomenon relates to people close to Chris.

So not only are we going to be looking at Chris

and using Chris as our subject, we have Emily

Bledsoe here with us as well.

And so what we're able to do now is to say,

is there a difference between how Chris perceives

his interactions with the orbs and not only

how he perceives them, but how he

reacts to them neurologically?

And does Emily represent a similar pattern?

Because she has these experiences as well.

Is this something that Emily, Chris's daughter,

has learned from him, inherited from him,

some combination of the two?

And the way we're going to get to the bottom of that

is by observing their brains together in real time

as they track the skies for us.

This is potentially really groundbreaking.

All right, Daddy, let's do it.

The team will be using an EEG to test

Chris and Emily's brains.

An EEG, or electroencephalogram, uses electrodes on the scalp

to detect and record location, frequency,

and strength of electric signals sent to different areas

of the brain.

This will allow them to see how Chris and Emily's brains

react when encountering the phenomenon.

So it'll be really interesting to us

any immediate analysis that you can do,

when you see them engaging.

Yeah.

Or if you guys let me know.

There's one I'll focus here.

You guys can focus up there.

And I'll be watching for shifts.

Beautiful.

Thank you, sir.

I'm so excited.

I see stars coming out.

Just start tracking Chris here.

It's like they're both pretty active scanning.

They both got one.

Yep.

I see it straight above us.

Anything on the satellite tracker?

We've got nothing between here and in the Atlantic Ocean.

No planes.

I'm not seeing anything on here.

Nothing at all?

This guy's right above us, man.

Andy, frontal lobe alpha.

Emily.

Wow.

So we had a really solid orb moving towards the direction

of the moon at the same time.

Emily's frontal alpha.

So a reduction in activity.

When alpha goes on, it's because everything's more idle, right.

More meditative.

Interesting.

During the previous tests on Chris,

when orbs appeared, the EEG recorded alpha brainwaves that

showed him going into the flow state,

similar to what top athletes experience

when performing at a high level without thinking.

To achieve this, they hyper focus inward, shutting out

all outside distractions, similar to what

someone does who is highly trained in meditation.

Chris's untrained ability to instantaneously switch

to this state is incredibly unique.

So we're seeing correlation between alpha wave

patterns in both Chris and Emily with the presence

of the phenomenon. That's right.

How does that track with our initial results

with Chris?

Similar.

So Chris would go into those meditative states,

and in the presence of orbs, he would almost

go meditative internalization.

And we're seeing the same thing with Emily.

With Emily.

Yeah.

Daddy, it's just getting started.

Yeah, I love it.

And that was a great sign that just appeared there.

I know. I know.

I've got two hands up, doc.

Now, is this two crossing?

Yeah. Yeah, I see it.

Is that FAA?

No, no.

Hey, doc, did you see anything here?

That's interesting.

There was a high amplitude alpha occurring.

For the second time, Emily and Chris's brains

have both transitioned into the uniquely focus flow state when

orbs are present, seeming to validate Emily's

claims that she experiences the phenomenon

just like her father does.

What's immediately interesting to me

is the amount of activity we're getting tonight when

we have Emily with her dad.

Multiple sightings.

We're getting very clear results on the EEGs.

Yeah.

Emily really is lighting up in that internalized alpha state.

It begs that question whether or not

this is a genetic, this is an environmental,

this is an experiential sort of development.

Does she have this ability?

Does she have this pattern, this wave pattern in her brain

because she grew up with Chris or because she's

genetically related to Chris?

Or is it something that potentially anybody

could learn?

Or because the phenomenon chose to stay with Emily?

Right.

- Let's call them over. - OK.

- You got it. - All right.

With enough data collected,

the team regroups to review their initial findings

with Dr. Thompson.

Hey, guys.

What's interesting here is that so far, in just looking

at the raw data, you're more, let's

call it, reactive, but in a reactive, very

calm, state internalized.

And Emily shows the pattern more similar to you.

Wow.

Cool.

Yeah.

And this is just an observational in the moment,

right.

I mean, as you point out, there's going to be more born

out as we do the post analysis.

Yeah.

I mean, this is tip of the iceberg.

The real information is below the surface.

What are your feelings,

Emily, as you hear some of these results?

It's wild.

It's validating.

With everything we've been through and experienced

together, it only makes sense.

This is huge for us.

So thank you. Thank you.

All right.

Mission accomplished.

- Absolutely. - All right.

Check.

Andy and Paul are continuing their investigation

with UAP experiencer Chris Bledsoe and his daughter Emily

in a remote, unpopulated, dark sky

area in the Florida Everglades.

They want to further test Emily's

seemingly unique relationship with the phenomenon.

They've also brought in Beyond Skinwalker veteran Steve Priola,

an ex cinematographer who's developed a unique way

to film orbs in the night sky.

Hey, Steve.

Gentlemen.

So the thing about this camera is

you have to be at the right place at the right time.

And with Chris here, the odds are pretty good that we're

going to see something.

So that's why we're bringing this to the table.

And I think it's going to work out great.

That's the idea.

We've got all the pieces in place.

Just got to wait for nightfall, which won't be long.

Right.

In addition to monitoring Chris and Emily

in perfect conditions to document potential orb

sightings, the team wants to test a claim

that the phenomenon appears to be amplified when both of them

are together.

When dad and I are together looking up at the sky,

we become very in sync.

I've had some pretty profound things happen on my own,

but it seems more frequent when we're together.

It magnifies the activity,

the amount of activity.

Not all the time, but 95% of the time.

I'm excited.

I'm excited. - Yeah.

I think it's going to be interesting.

For the first time, Andy and Paul

have trekked their monitoring tools

into the swamp to detect energies

present during any interaction Chris and Emily have with orbs,

including their spectrum analyzer, which records

Earth-to-space and space-to-Earth communication.

So I'm going to be monitoring

a number of different tools from this space station

here while we're relying on you guys

to point us in the direction of any activity that you see.

But we have multiple ways of looking at what's happening

in the radio spectrum.

We have a way of ruling out aircraft with our FAA tracker

and ruling out satellites with our satellite tracker here.

And then we have UFODAPs watching the sky constantly,

our AI-powered eyes in the sky that you remember

from the Monroe Institute.

Very thorough.

We're trying to replicate all the same conditions

to just make sure that we reduce the variables.

The power of two.

Who knows what's going to happen

now that we've got Emily here?

Who knows?

All right.

Well, it's getting dark.

Yeah.

Well, I'm going to move myself out just the right time.

Come on.

Yeah.

So it's time right now.

Yeah.

Requesting in every direction.

Just reaching out to that part of the sky here and above us.

And after that, I move to the ground here.

Let me scroll through the spectrum

just so we can get a sense of baseline here.

OK.

I think we'll get one in the woods.

I think we're going to get him too.

It's super quiet, huh.

Yeah.

Flash up there.

Overhead?

Overhead, yeah.

I mean, it's gone now.

It was very quick.

Paul. Yes, sir.

We had something interesting

happen in the radio spectrum, just as Emily

pointed out what she just saw.

Yeah.

Come take a look at this.

This just came to life.

Wow.

And this is exactly what

Erik talks about when he talks about--

see how the peak keeps moving?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So this was a quiet spectrum until Emily called out whatever

what she saw in the sky.

Look at that.

The way that peak is sort of just oscillating

back and forth, right?

So at 1.692 gigahertz, just under 1.7 gigahertz.

The 1.6 to 1.8 gigahertz range

is reserved for Earth-to-space and

space-to-Earth communication.

Huh.

Strange.

I don't think we've ever seen anything just like that.

No.

Straight up.

It's very faint.

You see it, Dad?

Look at that.

And then it disappeared.

And look what they did.

She connected arms with him.

They definitely know we're here.

I was just a little greedy.

There certainly seems

to be some interesting activity in the radio spectrum for sure.

A lot of weird little pulses

between 1.69 and 1.7.

Hey, Andy.

What if we try to find the source of that signal?

Yeah.

Let's see if we can.

You got the log periodic right here.

With the spectrum analyzer detecting a signal

in the 1.6 to 1.7 gigahertz range, which is being sent

from Earth to space or space to Earth,

the team will now use their log periodic antenna.

By rotating this directional antenna 360 degrees,

it can isolate and hone in on the exact direction

where the radio signal is transmitting from.

- All right, man. - All right.

Ready when you are.

Start swinging through.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Backtrack for me.

Stop right there.

So there are changes.

I want you to watch for changes in intensity,

and then look at where the antenna is

focused during those changes.

All right.

So expect the pattern to stay the same.

But watch the change in energy.

Intense for a spike.

All right.

Here we go, counterclockwise.

Tell you what, Andy, right about here,

we've got a bit of a drop off.

That's exactly what I thought I saw, too.

The pattern is still there, but the intensity is less.

Go back a little bit.

Yep.

Yep.

There it is.

Yeah.

So I wanted you to see that without me saying anything.

Yeah, for sure.

It's definitely higher now.

So we see this consistent pattern of energy.

Right.

And we see this level of intensity,

these high peaks when the directional antenna

is focused in their direction.

And it really drops off at 180 when we turn it away from them.

Yeah.

Exactly right.

Why would that happen?

I don't know, man.

I mean, it implies that something

is transmitting at them.

Right.

But for some reason, when we turn the back of this antenna

towards them, when we fall into the shadow of the antenna,

we see the energy drop.

Or shadow of the receiver.

Yes.

There, the real antenna.

We're just picking up whatever it is that they're--

That's what it seems like.

that they're receiving.

Whoa.

You want to head north.

Just past the Big Dipper.

Andy and Paul are with Chris Bledsoe and his daughter

Emily, along with investigator Steve Priola

in the Florida Everglades, documenting orb activity.

One just appeared right here and is headed north.

They're the real antenna.

We're just picking up whatever it is that they're receiving.

After zeroing in on 1.69 gigahertz on the radio

spectrum, the signal seems to be centered around Chris and Emily

and intensifying when they connect to the phenomenon.

Somehow, there is a directed energy that we're seeing

that could be coming at them.

And then once it hits them, it disperses.

And that's what this antenna is picking up.

This is Earth-to-space, space-to-Earth communication.

This is not something anybody can transmit on.

And we are in the middle of the Florida Everglades.

Right.

As soon as they dialed in, that seems to have picked up.

You want to head north?

There it goes.

Two in the trees ahead of us right now.

A red and a bluish white.

What are you seeing, Chris?

Right here.

Or right in there.

It keeps appearing flash blue, then--

I'm seeing it three times already.

There it goes.

There's another one.

That was two at that moment.

There's-- there's still-- it's still--

It's still right there to the left of that tree, in the fork.

Thank you.

One of the things

that Paul and I discovered from the command post

while you all were focused on the woods

is that we saw some sort of unique signature, a radio

signature that seemed to be focused on where

you were localized to you.

And not only that, it's in a frequency bandwidth

where there should be no activity at all.

We were at 1.692 gigahertz, which is a frequency zone

that's reserved for US federal government

use only and for Earth-to-space and space-to-Earth

communication.

Wow.

So almost like there's a frequency from Earth to space

somehow connected to us.

That's where we're landing as well, that somehow there's

energy that's tied to your being together, your being connected,

your being connected to the phenomenon at the same time.

I don't know what it is, but what

I do know is it doesn't happen that way for other people.

It shouldn't be happening at all to anybody.

There's really no sort of mechanism

that we understand that would cause that to happen.

So it's almost like the phenomenon

uses that frequency to communicate somehow,

and we somehow--

Connect to it somehow, yeah.

That's as good a hypothesis as we've got right now.

It seems like a literal switch that

flips in your head in the flow state, in both of your brains

when the phenomenon presents itself.

I'd be really curious to see all the results once Dr.

Thompson has gotten through all that data

of what we collected at Monroe.

I'd like to add something to what I saw tonight.

Yeah, what do you got? Yeah c'mon in man.

So amongst all the flashes and things

that I was able to focus on, I saw two flashes right above us.

I saw one come maybe from, like, about here to about 5 feet up,

a white flash.

And I thought, oh, maybe that was from a light.

And then I saw another one go right over the top

of one of our other cameramen. - Wow.

And he saw it, too.

They were right above us within 5 feet.

Well, we've got a lot of data.

Yeah, I mean, this was a fantastically successful night.

Yeah.

Let's pack up.

Let's dry our feet and start reviewing the data.

Yeah, let's do it.

Sounds good.

The next day, Andy, Paul, and the Bledsoes review

footage from last night's experiment with Steve Priola

of strange phenomena that he captured using

his unique filming process.

What an awesome night.

I did not have a radio frequency response

on my Bledsoe bingo card.

Not at all.

Not at all.

Well, you have to remember that the Skinwalker Ranch

team has been chasing these privileged frequencies

across Skinwalker Ranch, always assuming

that it had something to do with the physical location.

But what you two have done now is change the question.

The question is not why is this radio activity

happening at a certain place.

Right.

It is, why is this radio activity happening

with a certain phenomenon?

And now anywhere that phenomenon goes, potentially,

that frequency might be there, too.

So, Steve, were you able to process any of this time lapse

or any of your other camera equipment

for this night's investigation?

So this is the time lapse from that evening.

And there are a couple of moments that I

really I want to pick out.

So the first one is--

notice this craft right here.

Whoa.

What was that?

- Exactly. - What was that?

What was that?

Andy, Paul, and the Bledsoes

are reviewing footage of last night's experiment

with investigator and cinematographer Steve Priola,

and he's just shown them what seems

to be an unidentified aerial phenomenon.

That was awesome.

Can you go back and--

Yes.

Yeah.

See it doing a wag?

Yeah.

That's a telltale sign that it's not an aircraft.

It's not a satellite.

It eliminates all man-made objects.

It moves in that trajectory.

What on Earth could that have been?

That pattern of movement just makes no sense at all.

Look at the pattern of light, too.

Go back and play it at regular speed.

And we can watch other things move through the frame

relative to it.

OK, here it comes.

OK.

I mean, the other planes are moving much faster.

Whatever that is, it's not moving

the same rate as anything else.

That fits all the definitions

of what Erik and Travis want us looking for when

we are on these investigations.

Change in direction, change in speed.

It does not fit the normal behavioral profile

of an aircraft or a satellite.

That is unique.

That's not an insect.

That's not any kind of natural phenomenon.

That's not any kind of natural animal.

That thing sort of breaks the mold.

That's a great catch, Steve.

Thank you.

So on my other time lapses, I picked something up

that's very interesting, which was a little bit mysterious

because it was a video clip.

And it was only one frame in it.

This is what I saw.

This is one frame?

One frame.

So when I Zoom in here, and I kind look at the pattern of it,

but the most interesting thing to me

is what's happening right here.

Absolutely.

So it's coming from the ground up.

It either came from there or entered there.

But you can see that the light, there's

more than one light here.

They crisscross right at this moment.

And I will say that this activity,

this is multiple pieces of light coming from different sources.

What's the orientation here?

Like, where are the people?

We're all looking this way.

So this is the camera looking in the complete opposite direction

where we were all looking.

So this is in a headlamp.

This isn't a flashlight.

This isn't a light source from any of us.

This is something completely outside of our light sources

at all.

There is a phenomenon that is potentially

entering the ground or emerging from the ground

within proximity of our two primary focal points

for this investigation.

It takes away coincidence.

What explains that, if not some sort of correlation

with the subjects of the experiment itself.

Right.

And here's the thing.

This was taken at 6:50, which was a half an hour after sunset.

You can see it's pretty bright.

6:50.

That's about the time you called it, Dad, I think.

Yeah.

All that activity happened right around that time.

Stand by one second, folks, because I

want to check something.

Am I correct in saying that 6:50 PM is

when we had our first sighting?

So what I'm trying to check for right now

is when the first sighting happened.

And I want to know when the first sighting happened,

because the first sighting correlated with the change

in the radio spectrum poll.

That's right. - Oh, my gosh.

That's why we bring

so many instruments, right?

Point them all is--

So our production team just confirmed

that Emily's first sighting of the night happened at 6:51.

You captured this at 6:50 PM.

The lights, the 1.6 gigahertz frequency,

and your first sighting of the orbs

all correlate within the same minute.

Right.

That's incredible.

Yeah.

It's too tight to be coincidental.

Definitely.

The phenomenon's existence in my life,

it actually feels like a pretty large responsibility.

I take it very humbly and very gratefully.

I do feel so strongly because, like I said,

when you are encountering truth to this level,

you can't explain it.

And it is my responsibility, just like it's

my dad's and my family's to share with the world

that we're not alone.

This is just amazing, Steve.

I am flabbergasted by this catch.

The level of activity is really interesting

when you consider the fact that there are two Bledsoes present.

Right.

I mean, there's a lot of questions

we still have to answer there.

Well, I'm not going to sleep tonight.

And Travis and Erik aren't going to sleep for a week

after they see this.

Well, welcome back, guys.

You've had some incredible travels.

I mean, you've managed to cross the entire continental United

States in service to this expanded investigation.

We've been in the heat.

We've been in the cold, and now we've

been actually in one of the darkest places

in the continental US with Chris Bledsoe.

And I'll tell you, we've got some really

interesting stuff to show you.

Some really interesting things happened

when we took Emily and Chris together

down to the Florida Everglades.

And again, we were trying to replicate as closely as possible

the experimentation that we did with just Chris by himself

in the Everglades.

Try to change just one variable, in this case, Emily,

and then see how and if the outcomes changed.

And some interesting things started

to happen as soon as Chris and Emily got on site where

we had set up our equipment.

That's what I want to start with.

Flash, up there.

Overhead?

Overhead, yeah.

Paul. Yes, sir.

We had something interesting

happen in the radio spectrum, just as Emily

pointed out what she saw. Is that right?

Yeah. Come take a look at this.

This just came to life.

We're using our log periodic antenna.

And at this point in time, it is pointing

towards Chris and Emily.

So this is different from the baseline

before they were together.

But then once they were together and spotting,

we started to see this behavior.

This seemed to activate this transfer.

Correct.

You're looking at data packets. - Yeah.

That's exactly what that is.

Look at the waterfall.

That's what I'll tell you.

You can look at that, that looks like a stream of data coming

to you being moved around.

And each one of those different frequencies

is a different piece of data.

It's definitely interesting,

and it's definitely unusual given the remote location

that you were hailing from.

This is an absolutely strong communication signal.

I mean, look at that.

That is absolutely data.

The question is data from whom and to whom.

You know, what's transmitting it, and who's receiving it?

And why?

Well, to Brandon's question, you know,

I guess it's possible that he may have either knowingly

or unknowingly transmit bursts of data, but to what end?

Yeah, to whom?

He could be the transmitter.

Yeah, but to what receiver, though?

I mean, what on Earth?

This is highly unusual.

After seeing this happen throughout the night,

we didn't have our biggest breakthrough until after we

had left for the night and started

reviewing some of our footage.

So the first thing I want to share with you is this.

Whoa.

Look at the way this one moves through space

and seems to touch down in a way--

Getting off the ground.

Far in the distance, right?

It's reflecting off the ground.

Or at least that's what appears.

But nobody's walking back out there.

And you guys didn't see this, right?

Nope.

So I get the feeling there's a story with this.

I'm really interested in the timeline here.

Was there some exercise being conducted with Chris

around this period of time?

Do you--

So what we discovered from the timeline

was that Steve found that--

the timestamp on this image was at 6:50 PM.

And if you recall, the spectrum analyzer

results that we were just showing

you started up when the first sighting happened

between Chris and Emily.

That first sighting happened at 6:51 PM.

So within one minute.

Right.

You have this event caught on camera, coupled with the UAP,

with the other unidentified aerial phenomena.

I think the correlations, the people, the participants

involved, the setting, the remote setting

where this occurred, where you really

don't have light pollution.

You're in a very remote area.

And then you couple with that the correlation

within seconds of UFO activity.

I think we've-- congratulations, gentlemen.

I think we have a bona fide unidentified

aerial phenomena event.

So not only is the data exceptional,

but the circumstances are exceptional.

This has got to be one of the strangest things we've

put on this screen so far.

And this is in the Florida Everglades, right?

Yep, yep.

So here's the big question.

What caused this?

What is the combination of events?

Is this a random thing?

It always happens in the Florida Everglades, right.

We don't know.

But it really is correlative with Chris and Emily

saying they were feeling something.

You got a signal on the spectrum analyzer.

And my goodness, look at this.

Well, a data transmission

that accompanies these events, coupled with other UAP activity,

points to something greater.

It is probably involved with them.

They are some type of catalyst.

Incredible.

I know we're all

excited to really understand more about what's

happening in Chris's brain.

And Dr. Thompson is going to chime in with the analysis

of his results, not just of Emily and Chris,

but also how that compares and contrasts to his results

with Paul and Chris.

Fantastic.

In their investigation at the Monroe Institute,

the team, with the help of Dr. Thompson, conducted multiple

controlled EEG tests.

In their first test, they recorded

brainwave data on both Chris and Paul,

using Paul as the control subject.

During the test, when orbs appeared,

Chris's brain transitioned into the inward focus flow state.

But in the live on-screen readings,

it seemed that Paul's did not.

Did you all see that fly over.

Just huge one.

The team also conducted

a dual EEG test on both Chris and his daughter Emily.

And when orb phenomena appeared.

They both got one.

Yep. I see it straight above us.

Their brains both seem to react the same way.

Hey, Dr. Thompson.

Guys, how are you today?

Greetings from Skinwalker Ranch.

We've been anxious to hear what you have to report today.

Well, I'm excited to share it.

We've got some really interesting findings for you

guys today.

Excellent.

Well, let's see it.

So let's get into the results here.

The last experiment or the last study, we only recorded Chris.

What we decided to do this year is we added a control subject.

We have Chris, and we have Paul.

Paul was our control.

Chris obviously is our main subject and focus.

So when we look at Chris in this baseline,

we see some areas lit up, which we would expect

to see some activity in the frontal lobes a little bit

in the posterior region.

We look at Paul, obviously, the brain

is always a little bit active.

We see frontal lobe activity and a little bit

in those same regions as we see in Chris, these lateral regions.

During the encounter, we see a huge amount of activity

when orbs are present.

That means Chris goes into this flow

state, this meditative internal reflective state.

So our expectation was then that Paul, our control subject,

would not deviate from his baseline, right.

He doesn't have the history of the encounters with the orbs,

so we figured there would be no change.

Yet what we saw was that Paul actually had the same reaction

neurologically as Chris.

These nodes within the default mode network get turned on,

and he enters into more of a neurologically relaxed,

internal, and reflective state.

The question is, is it a physical stimulus

or is it a psychological stimulus?

You could say it's sort of a biasing of the experiment.

If they have a perception that something is about to happen as

opposed to did you detect some sort of

physical phenomenology present.

I've been asking myself,

is it just the presence of an orb

or is there an influence, almost like Chris

and a transference of Chris's experience

to a control subject or someone who is, you know,

now sharing this with Chris.

I think the inference that there is the idea

that these two individuals are somehow at least

their brain states are connected is fascinating.

I'd like to know how much deeper into that question we can dive.

Right now, we say this is very interesting, very intriguing,

and might lead us down a path to find out something more.

So let's continue for a moment here.

We've got another control subject, Emily.

And you guys are familiar.

Emily is Chris's daughter.

She has more experience with the orbs

than Paul does, but has not had the same level of interaction

as Chris.

During the encounter with Emily shows that same change as he

showed when he was with Paul.

So we've replicated Chris's findings for a third time.

Emily, you can see all through the central regions

and these deeper structures, they all

light up as well, just like we saw in Paul

and as we see in Chris.

Just a remarkable finding, once again.

What I have is, is the analysis of the data from a number

of experiments done on Buddhist monks

and highly trained individuals who

can turn this state on and off.

But it takes a fair amount of training in order

to teach yourself to let go and move

more towards this flow state.

You know, it takes a high amount of mental discipline and skill.

Seeing our control subjects shift in the same regions

in the same direction, in the same frequencies as Chris

was not expected by me.

I thought that was a remarkable finding.

I mean, that is wow factor.

Incredible.

And don't forget, Chris himself

has said that he believes his encounter on the Cape Fear River

channeled something through him that

allows him to share the experience

and the phenomenon with others.

Yeah, because what we just saw was

that he did channel his experience through Paul, right,

or shared his experience through Paul and Emily.

What happened to Chris that's enabling him to, you know,

project his emotional state to you

and to Emily and maybe others?

All I can look at when I see the same shifts in two

different people is that there's likely an external influence.

And I can't say what the external influence is,

whether it's orbs to Chris, to our controls,

whether it's Chris to the controls,

or whether it's orb to both.

I think this is a wonderful experiment.

I think I definitely would like to see follow up

on it because, you know, we could be on to understanding

a little bit more about how individuals

render their personal reality as well

as how a group sees reality.

So this is a really good experiment

that gives us a little bit of insight

about how we see and perceive reality.

Well, this is another example of us leading

the charge in frontier science in action,

not only relative to what we have here at Skinwalker Ranch,

but now beyond with your efforts.

And I really want to applaud everything

you've been doing in order to set the stage for this.

And thank you, Doctor, for your efforts.

We are truly breaking new ground that will be reflected

on for decades to come.

Well, it's really fun to be a part of this, guys.

Let's keep going.

Here, here.

Thank you very much, gentlemen.

Fantastic.

Those were all results.

All right.

Well, onward.

- Thank you so much, gentlemen. - Awesome.

Thank you.

Why does this feel like a cliffhanger meeting?

That's what I think.

Yeah, right. More to come.

Thank you. Wow.