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-DIRECTOR: And cut. -Cut.

This is the moment you've been waiting for.

This is a season wrap for all our folks.

But we want to acknowledge... Let's see.

-What's his name again? -(laughter)

Let's hear it for Sylvester Stallone.

(cheering and applause)

Thank you!

I never worked so hard in my life and had so much fun.

Seriously, you guys are pros.

And I think what we came up with

is something extraordinary

and life-changing, for me.

So, keep punching.

Love you guys. See you next season.

(cheers and applause)

We're all happy that it's over because it's strenuous.

It was hot. It was pretty brutal

'cause I didn't want to be away that long

and it was... it was quite taxing,

so I couldn't wait to get home.

(applauding)

If I think really outside of myself,

what keeps driving you?

What keeps moving you forward?

Is it ego?

'Cause there's not much left for you to conquer.

But there is in relationships.

I want to stay around the people I love.

I don't want to be away anymore.

You have to say enough. Enough.

(exhales)

Wow. This is the toughest gig ever.

* *

JENNIFER: Thank you, everybody, for coming out today.

-Mom. -Wow.

Today, my wife Jennifer

is launching a huge new skincare line that she's been

developing with her business partners for months.

She is a doer.

She gets things done.

I've been in the skincare world 30 years now.

My company has grossed over $2 billion in sales.

-SISTINE: Yeah, girl. -It came out beautiful.

-Yeah. -I love it. We should do one

with our whole team and get everybody behind here.

Yeah. Yeah.

My father passed away when I was 11 and my mom

never even knew how to write a check or pay a bill.

So I've always made my own money.

SYLVESTER: Well, this one...

There's a fortune to be made.

And you got to slow down, too. Enjoy this life.

Yeah. I want to do everything with my family.

-That's all I give a shit about. -Yeah.

I learned such a lesson to never rely on anyone

to take care of you

and I want to pass it on to my daughters.

I'm writing a book right now and so it's just like,

struggling to become a writer.

I always say that my mom is Superwoman,

because this lady

had really a hard upbringing

and was able to build

an incredible career at my age.

It's definitely really intimidating.

You were raised by a woman who actually

is giving you these insights.

-I know. -We're so lucky.

Honestly. That's why we get her ambition.

She's such a good role model.

SOPHIA: Sometimes I have a really hard time

comparing her to me.

I know that we're different,

but it's hard not to,

when it's your mom.

And Sly, would you like to say a few words?

-Yeah, I would. -Absolutely.

-Uh-oh. Uh-oh. -Here we go.

Jennifer, you are fantastic.

Seriously. You're so inventive and creative.

It's really aggravating, it really is.

(laughter)

And I'm so happy with these beautiful girls

that you've raised to also be entrepreneurial.

-(applause) -Yeah.

But anyway, baby, I'm so proud of you.

-Thank you. Thank you, Sly. -So...

Just keep doing what you're doing.

Anyone want to top that?

(laughter)

* Talk to me, baby *

* I'm goin' blind from this sweet, sweet cravin', whoa-oh *

* Let's lose our minds and go crazy, crazy *

* I-I-I-I-I *

* I-I-I-I-I. *

* *

Where is he?

-Sly, let's go. -SLYVESTER: Who's ready to rumble?

Jesus Christ.

You got to get rid of this car.

-Why? -It's too fucking small.

No.

-Why not? -I'm good.

SYLVESTER: What's going on with your book?

I'm like a quarter-ish way through it.

What is your subject?

Um, so I'm writing fiction,

romance and historical fiction.

But writing is just so tough.

-Like, I-I love doing it... -Oh.

Really?

It's so tough because there's days where--

-What have I been telling you? -No, I know.

It is so hard, Sophia.

When they were very young, I wanted to have my daughters

participate in every facet of the arts.

-Action. -Just scream.

Cut.

SYLVESTER: So I would have them

try to write a little bit,

recite poetry, anything that would get their juices going.

Of course, no surprise that Sophia

is working on a novel.

And Sistine wrote a horror movie script

that's picking up traction.

SISTINE: I'll be devastated if they want it to be a PG-13,

-I will be devastated. -(laughing)

I actually Googled today,

"ways to die in a pool."

Oh, yeah. Been there.

SISTINE: I've been working on this script,

Scavenger Hunt, since 2018,

when I wrote my first treatment and pitched it.

I've gone through countless meetings.

Pandemic hit, had to restart again.

So it's just been a long process.

The pool kill.

-ELLE: Oh. Yeah. -I'm excited to discuss this one.

We probably have interviewed 40 to 50

different writers and directors,

and I landed on this brilliant mind

named Elle Callahan.

We are just about done with the script

and it's going to be sent to MGM.

So, I'm really happy it's happening now.

What is time line looking like for you?

Because I know MGM, like, really wants to get their hands on it.

Right. I think, you know, within the next couple of weeks,

I can get these implemented.

You're a rock star.

-(laughs) -I don't know how you do it, girl.

Writing is great, though.

-It's really good for your mind. -Yeah.

Like, I want this book to work,

but I already know that people are gonna want

this to look stupid

and people are probably going to say it's shitty.

I just have this added pressure that's so un--

N-No one's pressuring me,

but I'm pressuring myself, now.

And I'm just shutting down a little bit.

I feel like I'm held to a standard,

and I think people expect me to do

a certain thing or be a certain way because of

what I was born into.

And so I have a huge fear of failing.

It's completely hindered me from

pursuing anything. I've quit piano,

I've quit singing, I've quit theater

because it wasn't perfect.

SYLVESTER: It took me 20 screenplays

-to finally get one that sold. -Right. Right.

-See what I mean? -Totally. Yeah.

But each one got better.

-Very few people, on their first venture... -Right.

...smash.

Both my daughters, Sophia and Sistine,

the difference is that

Sophia, being a Virgo, is very analytical.

She... Everything must be precise and well thought out.

Sometimes, she overthinks things.

Whereas Sistine, she'll just ram it.

Full steam ahead

and consequences be damned.

And hopefully it'll turn out.

Well, what's the name of the book?

Weight of Her Words.

-Like the weight. Like weight? -Like a weight.

Like it's heavy on this main character's life.

Any monsters?

-No. No. -(Sylvester chuckles)

Oh, my God.

You're killing me.

(laughing)

* *

-Hi. -Hi.

Is it happy hour?

-(bartender speaks indistinctly) -(gasps) Good sir. Thank you.

Scarlet is home for the weekend,

and I'm craving that sisterly bonding time.

Cheers. You can't cheers with water. It's bad luck.

-Cheers. -It's a candle.

-Okay, drink your candle. -Ah.

I thought it would be fun to, you know,

go to some fun restaurant, bar, have a fun night out.

SOPHIA: Oh, man, that's spicy.

Ooh! Mama.

You know what I've been thinking about?

And I know it sounds a little bit...

I'm gonna take a drink for this because...

I don't know what you guys are going to think about this.

Oh, God, she's got to take a sip for this.

SOPHIA: Am I supposed to be somewhere more?

Like, at 26,

like, do you think that you're going to be

so much farther ahead of your career and like...

SCARLET: That's insane.

No one knows what the hell they're doing.

Come on.

I really want you to not put

so much pressure on yourself, though, Sophia.

-I know, a lot of-- -Because you really do.

So, you, you do. Every time you start--

SOPHIA: You know what it is?

I feel like people in my position are so much farther

ahead in their career.

And I'm not saying that I'm in a rush,

but I feel like what if the things I want in life

don't work out for me?

SISTINE: Like what?

I think my book is kind of stupid all the time.

It's weird, because I feel like when you're younger,

you have this expectation that when you're 25

you'll be at a certain place, and...

I'd hoped that my novel was going to be finished

in the last year.

And there's nothing more in my life

right now that I've actually wanted,

because this isn't something that I'm doing with my sister.

This is not something I'm doing with my dad.

This is something that I'm doing for myself.

And it makes it kind of difficult,

and sometimes it makes me a little insecure.

I do think that putting a timeline on your--

No, it's insane, like--

Like, every year mapped out, like...

It just stresses you out

-so much more. -SISTINE: Oh, beyond. Beyond.

SISTINE: At this point, I decided to not tell Sophia

about my deal with MGM

because I just don't want her

to feel discouraged in any way.

I know she already puts so much pressure on herself

that she feels like she's behind in life.

I didn't want to rub anything in her face.

Brain-wise, body-wise, looks-wise,

we're at our peak, ladies.

-Going downhill from here. -So, cheers.

I feel, like, a little tipsy right now.

SISTINE: I do feel it, I'm not gonna lie.

-I can see it in your eyes. -Yeah.

-Sophia-- -I swear I'm a lightweight.

-Another round. -I need to like chug, chug, chug.

You guys can sleep on my couch.

I don't want to sleep on your couch.

-I have contacts, my-- -She's 26.

She's can't sleep on a couch. (laughs)

I'm sorry, wait, what was the question?

SISTINE: There was no question.

(laughter)

If I keep laughing, I'm gonna start peeing.

You are so cringey.

-Can we get the check? -Ooh.

Ooh! (laughter)

Your sisters are tipsy.

We've had too much.

For tonight's dessert, an assortment of lovely

selection of Milkbone maca--

I dare you.

Sophia, will you put some guac on it?

No, don't. I'm not eating--

Sistine, stop.

-Do the test. Do the test. -No, no, I'm gonna be 26.

(laughter)

* *

JENNIFER: It's so pretty out here.

SYLVESTER: It is.

Finally, we have some downtime.

It'll be like drown time If I fall off of this thing.

(Jennifer laughs)

I'll get a fishing line and a net.

SYLVESTER: The end of my careers have been so crazy for so long.

I'm looking forward to a new chapter of life,

slowing down for a change,

to spend some time with my girls.

I won't be around, you know, forever.

And I certainly want to leave them

with fond thoughts of their father

that he did the best he could to make their life

as fruitful as possible.

Well, I'll tell you, I miss being around here. Uh...

being in Oklahoma, they're very nice people,

-but it's not home. -It's nice to be home.

-But it's also nice to have you home. -Aw, thank you.

-Thank you. -You know, it's like, all right...

It's like we can start living again.

-(barking) -SYLVESTER: Uh-oh.

-We have cavapoo violence here. -Yeah, we do.

The other day, there was

-a manatee in the water. -SYLVESTER: Girl. (kisses)

(barks) Come. Winnie.

JENNIFER: And they almost jumped in the water

-to get the manatee. -Good girl.

And I was freaked out

'cause I'm like, uh...

I don't know if I want to go in, I saw a shark.

Manatees need friends, too.

(whimpering)

* *

SISTINE: We have to share a menu.

Look, they have a casserole.

It's like an old person food.

Remember you got the peanut butter and jelly last time?

I would like a chicken sandwich with a live chicken.

-Is that possible? -Hmm.

For you, sweetie?

Oh, my God, those guys are cute.

Um, can I get the chicken melt?

-JENNIFER: Oh, they are so cute. -SISTINE: They're really cute.

-With extra pickles on the side. -Oh, they left.

And a tall glass of him. No, I'm just kidding.

JENNIFER: Can I just change the subject a little bit?

Sistine, aren't you...

Don't you have a meeting when you get back?

With MGM?

Oh, that's exciting. I didn't know you had a meeting with MGM.

-JENNIFER: MGM picked up her film. -SOPHIA: I didn't know that.

SISTINE: Jennifer always has to be...

the town crier.

She can't keep her mouth shut, man.

Sophia's gonna kill me.

Are you choosing your, like, director and stuff

-at that meeting? -SYLVESTER: I'll just have the toothpick.

-You can have the rest. -Already did.

-SOPHIA: You have a director? -Mm-hmm.

-Who? -A woman.

Wait, why haven't you told me any of this?

Sistine, we live together. I'm actually pissed.

Like why haven't you told me any of this?

SCARLET: I'm a little uncomfortable because

Sistine told me about her script a week ago

and Sophia didn't know, apparently.

I mean, Sistine should've told her.

But she told me.

So, I'm okay with that.

I tell you everything.

Like, what was your reasoning for hiding that from me?

There's no malicious intent

behind me not sharing that.

Like, you're getting very...

-heated at me for no big reason. -SOPHIA: Yeah.

You also don't tell me everything, either, Sophia.

-I don't have a lot of things-- -Yeah, but if you don't get a job,

like the speaker thing, you didn't tell me until--

-Yeah, that's not true. -SISTINE: Mom told me--

Yes! So, like, give me a break.

How'd I get on The Housewives of Beverly Hills?

How did this happen?

-(laughing) -I just transferred. I'm now in the...

Like, what do they call the year-end show?

We're just unloading on everybody.

SCARLET: Reunion. (laughs)

Why are you laughing?

SCARLET: He made me laugh.

The hell do you... Why are you bitching with me?

All I did was laugh, I did not say anything wrong to you.

SOPHIA: It sucked finding out this way

that MGM was interested in her script,

rather than her telling me the moment it happened.

And, look, I-I can be nosy and I want to know everything

that's going on in everybody's life,

but this is a really big part

of my best friend's life

that I wasn't a part of until later.

Doesn't feel really good.

* *

* *

SOPHIA: I'm so proud of Sistine as a sister

that she's doing something

that she's really, really excited about.

But I hate the way

that I found out at a restaurant

after it's actually happened, so that kind of sucked.

JENNIFER: This is getting to be a little much.

The two of you are best friends.

-You're great sisters. -I know, but, like...

I don't honestly feel like talking about it right now.

I can totally feel...

this, like, dark cloud

when Sophia and Sistine aren't talking.

I have to intervene.

What is this, like, The Parent Trap?

Like, are we...?

Do you want to sit over here with your sister?

-No. -SISTINE: No.

JENNIFER: What?

She asked you guys to bring us here together?

Well, I think, first of all, we got to...

-turn the temperature down a little bit. -I don't know why you're so mad.

Sitting out in Oklahoma, I couldn't wait to get home.

And I just want to relax.

Now I come back to a war zone here with these girls.

I just don't understand why you're so heated

about me not sharing one thing...

I'm surprised--

...when we share everything in our lives together.

Well, apparently not.

You're making my moment about you right now,

which is absurd.

We celebrate everything together.

And what I'm upset about is that I wasn't able

to relish in that moment with you.

And everyone kind of knows, I'm sitting there going,

"Okay, I'm not sure what's going on."

JENNIFER: That's a valid point.

Because you do share everything.

But it wasn't intentional.

-I know, but you-- -What is this, Judge Judy?

SISTINE: No, but it-it's...

SYLVESTER: I don't think it was intentional.

SISTINE: It's not. Listen, all I was doing

was trying to protect your feelings because I know

sisters, in the same business,

jealousy can happen.

And that's all I wanted to avoid.

You both have a valid reason.

I think that it came as a surprise,

but it's pretty nice that she has something going.

-I'm extremely proud of her. -You have something going, too.

I do seriously regret not telling Sophia from the start,

because I ended up hurting her in the long run,

so I should've just been honest from the beginning.

I think both of you have a valid point.

But you're kind of, like, circling,

you're not landing this plane,

so I think the thumb wrestling.

Would you be interested in

-bringing your thumb? -JENNIFER: In a thumb wrestling competition?

-Let's do this. -Sophia, please. I'm begging you. Bring your thumb here.

-This is dumb. -I need your thumb.

-Here we go. -You know what? Actually, comedy--

Give me your red fake nail, I got this.

-SYLVESTER: Let's go, ready. -Woo!

-See this strong, real... -Those are fighting words.

-Come on. -Those are fighting words.

-We're trying to make up right now. -Come on.

-SYLVESTER: One, two... -Ugh, just do it, Sophia.

Three. Go. Go, go.

-Ooh. -Ohh.

-I'm sorry. -Ahh!

(laughter)

SYLVESTER: "Ahh." (laughs)

JENNIFER: Sophia wins.

That means we're calling it a truce.

SOPHIA: Even though it hurts, I love her.

And I'm proud of her.

And now I want to, like, celebrate the success with her.

But she better not do it again.

How many chapters have you finished?

Uh, I have done 15 chapters.

That's amazing.

But I just don't like talking about it

-just because I get-- -SYLVESTER: You should pitch it.

Finish enough of the chapters

that you have kind of a blueprint

of where you want to go and then pitch it.

I'll always take my dad's advice.

And this entire situation with my sister

has really lit a fire under me.

I'm finally feeling the motivation

to get this book to a publisher even though

this is a little bit out of my comfort zone.

-Okay, I can do it. -SYLVESTER: I know. There you go.

JENNIFER: I love that.

-Let's hug, let's hug, Sly. -SOPHIA: Okay.

Okay, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go inside.

-Yeah. -We're good, we're good, we're good.

* *

-Hi. -Hello.

I'm Sophia. Nice to meet you. -I'm Tobi.

-Nice to meet you. -Thank you for having me.

Absolutely.

SOPHIA: I have a meeting today

at Red Hen Publishing.

It's only an introductory meeting.

So I know that this is just the first step of many.

But this book means everything to me, so...

I'm a little nervous.

-Um, I'm gonna open my crappy computer. -TOBI: Yeah, please.

As you can see, I'm nervous,

I've been picking at the side of the thing. But...

So, the book is YA, it's also historical fiction.

-Oh, great. -Um, and romance. And, um...

(mumbling): Let me think how I want to...

So, the sorry--

"The sorry..." Let me start again.

I was fine this morning

practicing because I actually spent the night

rewriting and rehearsing everything that I was gonna say,

but now I'm here and it feels like

all of that has just flown out the window

because I'm freaking out, I have stage fright,

I'm bad at presenting,

and I-I really need this to go well.

Let me start again. The story is called Weight of Her Words.

The girl is named Spencer.

And she's a hopeless romantic.

And she is living in Brooklyn.

Nearby is her favorite vintage store.

She notices a journal.

And for some reason, she has to pick that one.

We cut. Now, I want the middle of the story to be

a completely different story,

historical fiction in the 1920s, in New York.

And we follow this woman named Alice.

-Yeah. -That's the store,

that's the book, and that's her reading the journal.

And there's Alice writing in her journal.

I don't know what just came over me,

but I'm feeling really... calm.

Because I thought in my head,

"No one else knows this story better than I do,"

and I-I don't know,

maybe I'm starting to actually believe in this story

as much as I should have in the first place.

You talked a lot about her living through others

and sort of trying to make decisions

-based on other people's decisions. -Yeah.

One of the ending feelings we should get

is that she's no longer living through someone else.

Yeah, I think when she gives it away,

that's kind of her last moment of going like,

-"I don't need to hide anymore." -Right.

Wow, excellent, well, that...

that-that sounds like a great story.

-I mean, honestly... -I'm glad you like it.

Yeah. Next, I would recommend, of course,

first finishing the book.

I assume you'll be looking at agents,

but at the point that you have a complete manuscript,

-I would be very happy to look at it again in full. -That'd be great.

I think this meeting just went

really, really, really well.

I killed it because my foot wasn't shaking,

my hands weren't quaking,

I wasn't mumbling over my words.

I think I was able to capture

the essence of the book

and they were able to be a part of it with me.

And it's showing me that I actually could do it.

-You've been amazing and thank you and I've learned so much. -Yeah, thank you very much.

I-- It's like a whole new industry I've never been...

-Never known about, so there's so many steps to it. -Totally.

Yeah, thank you so much. Great to meet you.

I will definitely talk to you soon.

* All we need is *

* Passion *

Oh, my God, it's here!

(laughter)

Oh, my God.

(gasps) Wait, let me get the binoculars.

Oh, this guy looks like he's rocking.

-He's waving. -Oh, he's waving.

Oh, my God, he's so cute.

SISTINE: It's party time.

It's party time, Sophia.

-Tiki boat. -Mom, it says "group therapy."

-Party's here. -BARTENDER: Here we go.

(bell ringing)

-(cheering and whooping) -SISTINE: Yeah, set sail!

-Cheers. -Cheers, Mama. Thank you for doing this.

You're very welcome.

MGM loves the script.

I got the green light

and Sophia was the first person I told.

She created a movie that MGM bought.

BARTENDER: Well, congratulations.

SISTINE: And in true Jennifer fashion,

she got us a tiki boat to celebrate.

* Memories *

SISTINE: Why go bar hopping when you can hop on a bar?

* Right back to me *

So you have a book deal going on?

JENNIFER: Yeah, she's a writer.

I think actually pursuing things I'm passionate about,

I feel better now, which is nice.

A bit more confidence.

So, I'm kind of just going for it.

Sometimes, I expect everything to just be perfect.

And, you know, that's not how life is.

And everyone has their own time line.

So you do things that you feel good about doing...

-Yeah, exactly. -...and you kind of don't care if someone judges you.

-Yeah. -And you live your life.

I'm glad I was able to stop caring what other people think.

And I'm here for the ride.

Let's go. (laughs)

-I want to cheers. -Cheers.

To Sophia.

-(cheering) -I love you.

SISTINE: Love you, Sophie.

(laughter)

Party on.

Party.

* Just riding the ride *

Whoo!

* Riding, riding *

* Just riding the ride. *

I have a strong affiliation with Philadelphia.

Mom and Dad want you to come to Philadelphia this weekend.

This weekend?

She's pretty adamant about not going.

She has to come.

When I walk up that steps,

I feel like I can do anything.

It's magical to me.

I feel so sad that Scarlet's not here.

I think we should disown her.

(over phone): It's Dad.

* Come on now, roll with the crazy *

* Dance like 1980 *

* Ooh, ooh *

* Roll with the crazy *

* Dance like 1980 *

* *

* Roll with me, baby *

* You ain't gonna save me *

* Ooh, ooh. *

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