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Okay, everyone. Happy Thursday. I have

to tell you that I was laughing so much

yesterday because I received a flood of

emails from law enforcement officers,

military guys that were just like, "No

way. Absolutely not. That's where I draw

the line. The bomb dogs missed the gun."

Apparently, for people who work with

bomb dogs, this is more of an offense to

their intelligence than the man of steel

neck. Like, it was just a bridge too

far. This is where they are drawing a

line in terms of feds. Anyway, we have

another unbelievable episode for you

guys here today. I thought long and hard

about whether to bring on the eyewitness

from Fort Wuka. And I think when we

speak to him today and he gives you his

testimony, you will of course understand

why. I am always honored uh to have any

person that serves in our military,

especially honored to have him given all

that he has lived through despite the

firestorm that I know that both he and I

are about to endure. Welcome back to

Candace.

Okay, so a couple of things before we

get into that interview. I at the top of

the show first want to tell you about

this interesting question that I

received yesterday from one of our

viewers over on X that I wanted to

address. He asked me specifically if I

saw black plastic fragmentation

over the floor of Charlie's SUV. I was

immediately struck by this question

because I am not kidding. When I tell

you that the very first thing that I

noticed when I went through those photos

of Charlie's SUV, I said to my team that

it looked like there were shards of

glass, like tempered glass that you

might see if you drop or break an

iPhone. Uh it was very distinct to me in

the picture from the blood that is all

over the seats and all over the floor. I

was like, "Oh, maybe like someone broke

a window or something." And then I sort

of put it out of my mind and

particularly I noticed a lot of it

spread across that back back seat rear

floor. So, I'm going to show you that

just a couple of photos of that close up

so that you can see it. Uh what that

looks like because yeah, it was just

kind of a compelling thing that he

noticed something that I noticed and you

can see it was unusual. I I think in

this person's mind, they the the line

that they were going down, I guess the

line of questioning that they were going

down in their own mind was, is this

evidence that something broke on

Charlie? Could something have been

rigged? And I want to say that we can't

necessarily extrapolate that from what

we're looking at. It could be a thousand

other things. Somebody could have

actually broken a phone in there.

Somebody could have had something in

there. It could be broken hard candy. I

mean, there's a lot going on. And yeah,

I just But I did want to address that

because it was interesting that he noted

it and asked if if we saw little black

bits and we and I I do that is visually

what I see. I am hesitant, by the way,

to put up the rest of the photos. Kind

of still going through that. I want to

be slow on that because obviously I

don't want the federal officers, the

good guys that are in there who have

assisted in this to be rumbled, right? I

don't want people cash to go on a hunt

and figure out who gave us what and

people to start getting fired. We need

to have the white knights in government.

So, I just need some time to think about

that. And yeah, anyways, what we can do,

however, and what we're starting to

formulate now are just addressing these

data points, right? These these

mysterious circumstances, these things

that don't necessarily make sense. What

do we actually know about that day? And

what's really interesting for me is when

I review these data points, I I can't

fathom how there are people out there

right now trying to convince you that

there is overwhelming evidence that

Tyler Robinson committed this crime.

There's actually no there's no evidence

outside of these shady messages that are

not even timestamped.

He we don't have a confession from him.

We have nothing. Okay. So, these are

just some some data points for you to to

remember as we go through this.

The surgeon never confirmed or even

suggested that Charlie was shot with a

30 odd six or that Charlie had a steel

neck uh that stopped that bullet.

Rather, he suggested throughout the

course of a conversation that maybe A

frangible bullet was used. The lone

confirmed eyewitness that we have that

is confirmed to the alleged shooter on

Loy Center rooftop before the sound goes

off. The sound of a shot rings out has

not been contacted by the lawyers or the

investigators on either side of this

trial, the pending trial. We are now in

the phase where investigators are

supposed to go out and be collecting

more evidence pending um the May

probable cause hearing. He still has not

been contacted. And why is that crucial?

Because this individual is an instructor

at a gun range. He claims the weapon

that he saw looked more like a 223.

Quote, something shorter than the one

that they found. The person that he

observed was wearing what seemed to him

to be black tactical gear plus a face

mask. And he describes that person as

looking like a like a professional.

The bomb dogs were unable to locate the

weapon in the field. where it was

eventually discovered despite the fact

that they had crawled over that area.

They just weren't on their game that

day. That this is not my favorite part

of the story. It's just a little I just

didn't expect uh the reaction to be what

it was. It's I I just love the people

that are like no. Absolut

directed local officers to the weapon.

Lucky feds. Lucky feds. The canines were

not provided with the scent of the

weapon once it was discovered. So they

did not then take that weapon and then

have the dogs trace it back to the top

of lawy. That did not happen. Uh Terl

Farnsworth still major question marks.

He raced to remove the camera that was

directly behind Charlie's head. I want

to tell you, by the way, I'm reading

myself into this, so not a data point,

but in my mind, when I imagine why he

might have done that, uh, I think it's

because they were going to go with this

story that a 306 hit Charlie Kirk. And

what debunked that obviously would be

seeing that it didn't it didn't go

through. There was no like there was no

evidence of what should have been a

tremendous amount of damage done to his

neck. I also want to say here because

I've heard that various people like Terl

are getting death threats. Obviously, if

you're watching this show, we are

investigating what happened with Charlie

Kirk. I have been clear that I do

believe that there are some people that

are engaged in a cover up. I am never

giving anybody the permission to, you

know, go be a bandit and go outside and

and take the law into your own hands.

That's not what we should ever be doing

and engaging in. Um, next data point

that we have, federal agents prevented

the surgeon from returning to his

operating room. I told you that was

something that startled him and he

placed a call presumably to DC uh to

make them move because he wanted that

obviously the team to get back in there

to clean it to make sure that Charlie

could get cleaned up before Erica came

in. Uh, federal agents removed the

hospital surveillance footage. They're

on a manhunt and for some reason that

seemed like something that they should

do. that strikes me as tremendously odd.

We have that the vehicle in which

Charlie was transported to Tempenos or

Tanagos Hospital was not impounded by

law enforcement. It's very odd. Uh and

there were multiple sets of prints on

the weapon that was found. Something

that I did not share with you, but I did

know this for some time and I can

confirm this to you because that's one

of their things. They got the prints of

Tyler Robinson on this gun. There were

multiple sets of prints that were on the

gun that was recovered thanks to the

instincts of the feds and not the noses

of the dogs. And finally, and I think

this is a big thing, the footage of

Tyler Robinson turning himself in is

apparently missing. And I have told you

guys, and again, I'm reading myself into

this. And in my investigation, I found

that their entire story about how the

parents turned him in and did the right

thing is crap. It is BS. That's not what

happened. They were told either, you

know, these doors are going to get

broken down or you're going to you're

going to come in peacefully. Uh and

Tyler chose the latter. I also was told

by police officers that were there when

he he came into the police uh that they

were they were told not to look at him.

They were told to avoid cameras. Very

strange things that happened when he did

eventually come in. And we won't know

how strange because apparently the

footage is missing according to local

Utah news that they they didn't say a

foya. There's another term. What was a

gamma requested for that footage and

were basically told well now there's

been an expiration on that footage and

we don't have it. So maybe they just

mean they already handed it over to

investigators. I don't know. But we will

wait and see. That's a lot that is going

on. I want to pivot now because our

instincts, which they keep mocking us

over, I think are on the money. We're

going to talk now about Christianity.

Christianity, I'm putting that in

quotation marks because it has been on

this podcast a recurring theme, right? I

keep sensing

a that these pastors are dangerous,

right? I've covered extensively how even

just amongst the Cavalry Chapel uh in

particular, there's just way too much of

a habit of establishing former

pedophiles and drug traffickers as lead

pastors of churches. Okay? I'm not

saying that people can't find God. I'm

just saying that my preference would be

that they maybe not be provided with

access to children, right? if if you

committed a crime against child. Uh this

is a preference that I guess is not or

perhaps is in conflict with the beliefs

and the preferences of Rob McCoy who

makes my skin crawl. We showed you uh

that interview that he did with somebody

who apparently went on rampage. He

actually went to prison for it and he

was just sort of laundering his

reputation and then gave him access

again uh to children. I feel like that

is very wrong.

I have also on this show been speaking a

lot about these quote unquote Christian

influencers. Something's not right. A

lot of women who seem to know their

Bibles for almost the implicit and

explicit aim of socially engineering the

population, right? Telling you, "Oh,

it's right here in the Bible." Same with

the pastors. God doesn't want you to

follow Tucker Carlson on Instagram. Josh

Hammer is amazing. Candace is possessed

by a demon. You don't want to be

possessed by a demon. So unfollow Tucker

Carlson and unfollow Candace and I

promise there is no other motivations.

Candace is just crazy and you should

listen to me. Similarly, there are so

many conservative media companies who

are run by former military intelligence.

People that leave naval intelligence,

people that lead the MSAD, uh suddenly

their aim is to speak about

Judeo-Christian values. Uh you know,

they find God after they they leave the

military. I'm not saying that that's

impossible. I'm just saying that this is

something that we have discussed a lot

on this podcast. I have been suggesting

to you all that faith has been

infiltrated by the military and people

laughed. They laughed. Well, you guys

didn't laugh, but like, oh, what do you

mean by that? Well, you guys pull up a

chair because it's about to get even

more interesting. Fort Wuka, as many of

you in the military have informed me, is

actually an intelligence base. Now for

those of you who are ignorant like me

regarding the structure of the military,

this is an important distinction to make

in your mind because when we think about

military bases, at least me, maybe you

can uh you have the same mindset. I tend

to think about where they're scrambling

off the planes off of an air base if

there's an attack, right? Oh, quickly

jump into jump into your planes and get

into the air or maybe get into the sea.

It just requires an immediate response.

But that is not what Fort Wuka in

Arizona is. Okay? It is a hub for

intelligence training. Civilians can be

turned into intelligence assets on this

base. They can take courses to join the

intelligence community. Okay, just

giving you one example of an email that

I got. Quote, just FYI, Fort Wuka is

where soldiers go for their MIT courses.

That is Army military intelligence. Once

a soldier has finished basic training,

they go here for their advanced training

for their actual job in Army military

intelligence. End quote. Okay. Now,

among the many emails that I received

regarding what sort of intelligence

courses take place, I was absolutely

floored when a person who grew up and

lives just outside of the base in uh in

Sierra Vista told me something. I'm

going to recount the story to you and

I'm going to paraphrase a little bit of

this so that I protect their identity.

Basically, their story begins in May of

2013. They are two recently baptized

Christians. Like I said, they grew up in

this area, Sierra Vista, and they

decided they were going to pour their

savings into starting a gym. Now, of

course, because it's a gym that's

located off base, they had a lot of

clientele who happened to be associated

with the base. And one such client uh

was a woman that they met, a couple that

they met that were on fire for the Lord,

right? That couple uh made a sizable

investment in their gym and became quote

unquote founding members. Okay, so the

gym owners

were drawn to this couple because they

were so bold in their faith. They were

like, I I loved the bold proclamation of

their faith and we thought this is

great. This this is going to work. they

accept money from them. So, you can

imagine that they were then completely

surprised and shocked when this couple

over time effectively staged something

akin to a hostile takeover of their

company, undermining them while

pretending to be their friends, going

behind their backs, propositioning other

gym members. I'm going to be clear here.

This is obviously allegedly uh I'm going

to say allegedly allegedly allegedly

here the couple almost lost everything

in the process and they had to start all

over again. Now what was once the

fastest growing gym in Sierra Vista

suddenly

they were forced to relocate and

downsize their company entirely. So now

it's 2015 they are in their new smaller

location of a gym. And I'm going to read

this next portion of the email that I

received verbatim. Again, allegedly,

allegedly, allegedly, because he names

an individual, an individual who I do

not know. I have never heard of this

individual, but I feel it is relevant

because I'd like to learn more. The

email continues, quote, "We were

struggling, sometimes barely making

rent, but still serving the community,

including military students who came

through for 4 to sixmonth training

courses." Okay, I want to stress that

again. got all these students that are

coming in and their training is lasting

between four to six months. So, they're

signing up for this gym. Back into the

quotation, um, one morning I noticed a

female military military member

lingering after class. She was visibly

distressed, so I kept the gym open

longer than usual to give her space to

talk. We ended up conversing for about

45 minutes, and what she shared with me

has stuck with me ever since. She said

she quote, "Could not take it anymore."

When I asked for details, she explained

that her stress was coming from a class

that she was taking on Fort Wuka, taught

by none other than Bruce Bevans. My ears

perked up when I heard his name as I

immediately remembered the incident with

his wife. This young woman described

Bruce as quote, "The most evil man that

she had ever met." She then revealed

something that I wasn't expecting at

all. The class's objective was to teach

military personnel to infiltrate

Christian groups and organizations

through covert psychological operations.

The training focused specifically on

deceiving Christians. At the time, I

didn't fully connect the dots. Our gym

was and still is an openly Christian

faith-based organization. But looking

back now, I have to wonder if the

infiltration and the destruction of our

gym was actually a training exercise or

field assignment. I also wonder if the

distressed young soldier was sent to our

gym on assignment from Bruce, but

couldn't follow through with her

objectives and instead chose to confide

in me. There were other students who

will corroborate this type of training.

Two military students, both named blank

and blank, I'm redacting that passed

through our gym during this same period.

They shared similar stories but seemed

much more advanced in their training. On

one occasion after I asked what was so

funny in the back of my class, they

privately shared that they had just

returned from an overnight field

training mission with very little sleep.

Their objective had been to deceive

civilians in Tucson about an hour north

of us. They practiced at local bars and

public venues on unsuspecting people,

telling lies, remembering those lies,

and maintaining their false personas

without quote unquote breaking

character. They laughed about their

conquests while working out at our gym.

Now, I got the impression that their

deception sometimes extended to sexual

encounters with their targets. At the

time, I found this disturbing, but I did

not know what to make of it. Now, 12

years later, and watching the situation

unfold with Charlie Kirk and learning

that some of his most trusted people may

have been trained operatives who

infiltrated Turning Point USA, these

memories suddenly seem significant. You

mentioned previously that there was a

strange military background connection

among some of the people involved. I am

now wondering if instructors like Bruce

Bevven trained some of these individuals

before they infiltrated Christian

organizations like Turning Point USA.

End quote.

Now, I obviously cannot confirm just

yet. I'm sure after the show we're going

to get a bunch of emails the allegations

against Bruce. Again, I have never heard

of this individual. What I can say to

you is on a guttural level, I feel this

is accurate. I do. It is what I have

noticed. It's what I've been pointing to

you all year. Many of these pastors are

behaving like operatives and many of

these Christian influencers are behaving

like operatives. And I keep telling you

that all roads including the Egyptian

here Israeli uh planes lead to the front

door of Turning Point USA. Faith I kept

saying there's something when faith

suddenly infiltrated and something

happened to this organization and I feel

this email is a big piece of the puzzle.

Okay. So, if you played a part in these

exercises on Fort Wuka base where you

were learning instructions about how to

be a good little Christian to infiltrate

and potentially to overthrow a Christian

organization and maybe you're having

some second thoughts about your soul and

you'd like to speak to me about it off

record, please email more tips at

candacewowens.com.

And I would also like you all to

remember that we suddenly have been

experiencing wallto-wall panic ever

since we mentioned Fort Wuka. You saw

this. It's I mean the articles right now

are unhinged. They are they are just

doing fiction. The panic button was

pressed when we mentioned Fort Wuka in

the alleged meeting that happened on the

morning of September 9th. So we're going

to get into that. By the way, for those

of you that thought that this person was

making it up, he was uh apparently not

familiar with metadata. I don't think he

was. And he had not sent me the photos

that he took that morning on the base.

So, he tells a story. I stepped outside.

I got coffee. Well, because he thought

he was going to write, and I'm laughing

here, going to like write the wrong of

his past. He was sort of documenting

himself while he was on the base. So, he

sent sends me over all this stuff and I

literally was able to confirm with the

metadata uh where he was, exactly what

time it was and see the background

obviously and it's just a fact. Okay,

it's just a fact that this this

happened. He was there. I was also able

uh to establish it because now this is

like beyond a reasonable doubt. Now,

when we get back after this brief break

from our sponsors, we are going to bring

on and this is his new name, Mitch. I'

I've told you about who he believes he

stumbled upon in that meeting and I

think that we need to focus on that and

you may learn more. I know I certainly

did. We'll be right back after a brief

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What can I say other than the fact that

I do just feel on a spiritual level that

we have been infiltrated? I'll ask a

broader question. Are all of our lives a

bit like The Truman Show? Do we have

essentially a cast of characters who are

performing and pretending and this is

what kind of made everybody go crazy

after the Turning Point USA event where

Tucker asked the question, where does

this guy's money come from? I mean,

obviously Barry Weiss is one of these

actors. This is clearly an act. You

obviously are not intelligent. You

obviously are not some journalist that

worked their way up and broke some

important stories. You are obviously an

intelligence op, a not so intelligent

op. Like, are all are we living in the

Truman Show? Are we all going to work

thinking that we can climb a ladder when

in reality these people are just

selected and given certain uh there were

supposed to be certain characters.

You're supposed to pretend like you're a

head of a tech company and you're

supposed to be super weird and quirky.

I'm going to cast you into that role and

then we're going to call you a genius

and you're supposed to pretend that

you're this super financial guru like a

Jeffrey Epstein and we're going to put

you at the head of a finance company.

You know, you have no background in

this. That's kind of the theme that I'm

seeing. Anyways, I don't want to waste

too much more time because I do want to

bring on Mitch who apparently has what I

would describe as I don't know if it's

the best or the worst luck ever in life

stumbling upon the feds when they're

maybe up to no good. Mitch, welcome to

my podcast. It's so great to have you

here.

>> It's wonderful to be here, Candace. How

are you doing?

>> I'm doing very well. I uh I obviously

you know the story of how I instantly

got the email from one of your friends

that just said, "You should call Mitch

after I prayed and said, "I'm missing a

piece of this. Please, God, give me a

piece of the story." And the first email

I see when I get back from church on a

day of holy obligation is this email.

And so Mitch, my audience is up to date

on what happened to you when you were 20

years old. And I'm wondering if you can

just sort of briefly recap in case I got

some things wrong.

Oh wow. Briefly recap 35 years. Sure. Um

yeah, we uh we were part of a mission

going down to um down to the border JTF6

assigned from 10th Mountain. Um

previously there had been a Marine Corps

uh unit there. Um apparently they had an

incident. We had to replace them. uh and

they wanted a less less kinetic unit to

um be involved. So we went down there in

a matter of a few days, you know, and I

was the youngest guy on the team. And

for the first few days, I I got assigned

to um have to, you know, do the hard

work of putting in the sensors and

following one of the border patrol who

was on a uh he was on horseback. got to

learn a little bit about um picking up

signs in the desert, stuff like that

while we were placing these sensors

down. Um it took a few days. Um I think

we put in like 80 sensors or so along

the border and

uh we were getting some they thought it

was some glitch signals coming back. Um,

being that I had just gone through the

course, I had the most updated

information and

um, what we realized is they weren't uh,

they weren't glitched signals uh, that

these people were being sent out for.

Um,

it was uh, subterranean. And once

when I got pulled back uh to the JTF6

headquarters,

they were in discussions of of trying to

remove the army. Um, in case your

viewers don't understand,

when units get put together like this,

especially this mission, um, there's a

lot of contention even to this day

between the army and, uh, Border Patrol

and who gets to take credit, and who

gets to stay, who gets to go. And back

then, um,

Border Patrol, I I think they just

wanted us out of their hair.

Um, so they were having some sort of a

big meeting. Um, and a big do not

disturb meeting and uh I got assigned to

the skeleton crew to sit back on the SMS

uh um excuse me, the receiver. Um,

and I was looking at the data while

the skeleton crew of the border patrol

was left there with me as well. and he

was giving me a bad time about the army

equipment and how they were being sent

out for for no reason and he kept giving

me a bad time about it. So, uh, we were

looking at the data and we started

discussing things and and I brought up

the fact that, you know,

you know, I asked if there was any

subways or something like that around

and between the two of us, the light

bulb went on that um, yeah, it was a

yeah, it was an underground tunnel and

within minutes we could triangulate the

uh, triangulate the signals and be able

to pinpoint the location and that's the

information I got to hand off. So, no, I

didn't, you know, like go on the raid

itself. Um, handing that information off

was was the probable cause they needed

to be able to go get a warrant, go to

the location, um, and also communicate

with the Mexican authorities on the

other side to uh, perform a raid. And,

uh, yeah, that's what that's what

happened.

Now, um,

>> you're thinking, amazing. We have found

the biggest cartel tuttle. Uh, there

there had never been one bigger

previously discovered. I I presume maybe

there had been. I'm And there I don't

know. I'm just I'm going to become a

hero. Maybe you're thinking this is

going to be great. And the exact

opposite thing is true. And it's because

they eventually find pictures of well,

uh, was it an American lieutenant

colonel? Who who exactly? Sorry, you I

know you told me this. Was it a colonel?

>> One of the commanders that was um

with the border patrol um was actually

posed with a photo um that was found on

the Mexican side um after the tunnel

apparently had been built um along with

other Mexican military and and US

military. So there had been some

collaboration uh prior to us getting

there. There had been some a lot of

suspicion that

uh the federal government knew that 80%

I think it was 60 to 80% of the cocaine

was coming through the Douglas, Arizona

area. That's basically region six or

that's why they called it JTF6.

Um

so they knew all the cocaine's coming

through this one area. Um but the local

authorities back then, you know, came up

with shrugs like, you know, oh, we just

don't see where it's coming from. So

they suspected there was some

uh there was some you know compromise of

of officials down there. Um

so yeah we we went to work and and it

didn't take us long to pinpoint this.

Um, so when they recovered that data and

they recovered the photos, obviously u

they had some of the top names of of who

was helping out on the US side to

help build the tunnel and also keep it

functioning for at least 6 months. Uh,

judging by the date on the photo.

>> So I just wanted to ask you your

attachment to because I'm trying to

figure out why you're going to then go

back to Fort Wuka. Is that where you

were initially trained?

Um, yeah, I was. Yeah.

>> Fort. Okay. So, you were initially

trained at Fort Wuka. What then ends up

happening is they put you, you

basically, you're not allowed to talk.

You just get gagged for, is it 25 years

the gag order lasted while they

destroyed every layer of your life, fed

your name to the cartels. You've been on

the run. You've had to change your name.

Your family is now in debt. You've been

fighting lawsuits trying to get um the

government to, I guess, defend you

against the cartel gangs. And clearly

they're angry because you stepped on

their toes. It looks like I think that's

a fair depiction uh of what happened

here which we are learning more and more

how corrupt and our I think the CIA was

created to traffic to be clear. That's

that's my opinion there. But you they

effectively destroyed your life and

gagged you in in the process. Is that a

fair assessment of what happens next?

>> Yeah, it is. Um, I could probably go

into some detail that uh while we were

down there,

you know, I got to uh got the honor of

incinerating all the uh

uh it was about a ton of cocaine. It was

and bunch of guns, bunch of money. Um,

and then right afterward, we went right

back to work and I ended up getting

approached with a friend at uh NOA,

Arizona. Um, not a friend, but another

Border Patrol agent. And if it wasn't

for him, I I was too stupid. I didn't

understand why this person was coming up

or why they had personal information on

me. I I was a young kid. Um it was the

Border Patrol agent that caught what it

was about and um yeah, thank God. Uh he

he knew what to do. Um took me back to

base and they thought it was, you know,

something I did uh to give away my

identity. Uh so I was on base for uh it

was the next day that I got brought into

a briefing and by that time

um the photos from the Mexican side had

made their way to the American side and

they were able to put together how my

information got got fed um to the other

side. As far as cartels and stuff like

that, I you know

it's just plain corruption at this

point. It's it's and it's thick and

yeah, they have followed me. Um there's

been I've had people come through my

windows. Um and it's not like I know

these are

it's like fantastical stories. We got

the court documents. We got the we got

the court cases. Um

>> you've sent them to

>> It's not just that we have those. It

it's that uh the work that was done to

even try to bury those afterward.

Um it's pretty substantial and yeah I've

got 20 years of this and you'd think you

know one would think that u somebody in

the federal government would care um or

in any part of our government would

care. Uh the more I've gone up the chain

to try and u

you know get more of these records as

well as get answers

uh to this saga. Um

it just seems like I step on more and

more toes and eventually that's what led

me to going down to Fort Wuka was just

to get the original records and find out

you know why wasn't the FBI updated as

to what my status was and you know why

has this been allowed to um

yeah basically use our own laws against

me to attack my life. Um

>> I feel

>> I wanted answers.

I I when I hear the story, it makes me

it makes me so angry because it's just

too many people that are serving our

country only to figure out that our

country is serving some other, you know,

the interests of oligarchs truly. And I

think we're kind of all coming to that

moment right now and recognizing that it

hasn't been left or right. It has been

them, the a unique gang of oligarchs and

criminals that are running every aspect

of our lives. And um they would gladly

have you die for them and could they

they couldn't care less. I want to pivot

now. So you you're uh they put you

there's this gag order or you know

non-disclosure agreement and it is 25

long years and it happens to 35 pardon

me 35 years you're told yeah you can

suffer the cartels can chase you change

your name but you keep your mouth shut

about it and finally in May this of this

year this this uh it expires right this

this gag order expires and you Say to

yourself, I am going to go down to that

base where I was trained. I'm going to

go down to Fort Wuka, book myself into a

hotel. I'm going to go to the criminal

division, investigative division. I'm

going to get that original paperwork and

get some answers to why my I feel that

my life has been effectively ruined for

me having done what I was ordered to do

by the government.

>> So, you get to the base, and I want you

to address this because there were so

many people who were like, "There's no

way you could have gotten on to the

base. Obviously, you sent me your

military cards and I think we can show a

picture of that. You get onto the base

and I want you to walk us through what

time and I did show a timeline, but a

bouch, you know, you don't have to be

perfect here. We already showed a

timeline, but like you get to the base

and just kind of what's your general

mood and this is on September 8th, the

evening of September 8th at the

Candlewood Inn and Suites, which you

have given me all the documentation for.

>> Okay.

Yeah. And um getting into Tucson, there

was a little bit of a issue getting the

rental car and stuff. So that took a

little while, a little bit of a delay,

but we made reservations ahead of time

for me to be there. And um yeah, I get

down to the base. For those that think

that uh people can't get on base, no,

typically you can as long as you have

your your ID, your insurance, and you

have a purpose for being there. Um I

certainly did. Uh,

>> you can show that documentation as he's

speaking. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

>> Yeah.

>> Um,

so yeah, we made made reservations and

uh I got to the hotel. I had uh it was

sort of hard to find, but once I found

it, I sort of recognized it because it

was uh that was actually the barracks

that I had when I was there in AIT

training, but they converted it. So, uh

yeah, that was pretty cool. All of a

sudden, I'm staying in the same

barracks. Um,

really nice place, by the way. Wonderful

beds. Um,

but yeah, I check in and as I'm doing

that, um, you can tell that there's

regular, uh, military people, um,

uh, young kids that are there. Um,

probably just checking into post, stuff

like that.

Uh there were a couple people that that

stood out and they're a little bit older

and and um as I'm checking in, uh one

guy that was sitting on the couch

he just had a sheen to him. Um looked

like he had a professional military

sheen to him. If I had to guess um you

know being a special forces guy

I would have guessed that he's ex

special forces probably doing you know

something down there probably contract

uh he was definitely waiting on

something and

>> age about just so we can get a

description age

>> you know I'd say

30 33 to 40 about there give or take Um,

you know, I wasn't there to check out

people, um, or check ID cards. Um, I

just happen to know him. And veterans,

especially SF guys, when you notice

somebody like that, I almost had the

impression so much so that I was going

to go up and ask him what group he was

with and say hi and thank him for his

service. I didn't really get that

chance. So, as I'm checking in and then

I go to my room and then come back out,

um he was joined and um

joined by a female that you can you can

definitely tell when um how do you put

it? When people are well off and um

they're dressing down.

Um she was definitely dressing down and

it was um very wellkept.

Uh the one thing I noticed about the

woman that really stuck out to me was

was her eyes and um

I have an ex that um has caused me a lot

of problems. So, uh, when I see someone

with with, uh, striking blue eyes like

that, they stick out. And, um, I even I

was on the phone, uh, with my,

uh, with my wife here, and I even told

her about it. I said, "Oh, gez. Uh,

somebody has those kind of eyes." Um, it

creeped me out a little bit, you know,

and it had nothing to do with that

person. I just,

you know, life is what it is. But as I

was checking in, they um I was going to

go back and actually talk to that

person, the the guy. And um

yeah, they between me at the front desk

and then going back to my room one time

and then coming back out. I was going to

go to dinner. Um yeah, they had gotten

into uh there was a vehicle parked out

front. uh big green truck G it looked

like a real shiny GSA type. Um

and yeah, they were getting into that

vehicle and and driving off. And that

night I went to dinner at some a little

bit crazy. The people in Sierra Vista,

they can probably verify there was a

Mexican oh Mexican sushi place in Sierra

Vista. So, I got dinner and and um it

was a pretty good place actually. Um and

then I came back and went to sleep that

night,

got up early the next morning, wanted to

see the sunrise. Uh reminisce about,

you know, um yeah, there we go. Just

reminisce about having been there a long

time ago. Um

and uh even stopped to talk to some of

the police. They tried to give me

directions to

to CD, but the buildings there are are

uh they're sort of old World War II and

they're also built on top of the

foundations of um like almost Alamo era

uh rocks and stuff and some of them

aren't really well marked. So, um his

direction sort of led me off on a wild

goose chase.

And I'll interject here while you're

having a sip of water that this is when

you accidentally take a video and it's

18 minutes long while this guy's giving

you directions which you've also you've

sent everything over. So there's no

question you were here and everything

happened because you tried to document

this thinking you were going to get some

justice from the past and and I I will

let you continue telling the story.

>> Yeah, I was there to get help. Um,

and uh, I was really figuring some

people would have a,

you know, have some answers for me. Um,

I couldn't find C, but as I'm wandering

around and I finally decide, you know, I

need to get some coffee and wake up,

maybe have a little breakfast. Um, I

noticed that there's some signs there

that say JTF and uh, and JTF

headquarters.

I went in a couple of the buildings.

There was nobody there yet. So, I

continued on. I went and got coffee. Ran

into some 10th Mountain people there.

Um, they said they were there for JTF.

Um,

you know, we we sort of talked. I bought

them coffee, I think, for their service.

Uh, they sort of I asked where there

would be a headquarters that I could go

to to to speak to someone. They tried to

explain it to me. Um, I forget they gave

me a building name. Uh, and I don't

necessarily want to, we don't want to

disclose that kind of stuff, but

uh, I went right back to the front gate

and as I came in, I as they scanned me

in with my ID card, um, yeah, I asked

the gate guard there where, you know,

where would this building be and how

would I get there? Uh, he gave me

detailed instructions on how to get

there, how to wind around to get to that

building. And so I did. And um it was

obviously a a temporary setup for this

new command down there. Um

there was no gate guard. There was uh I

I think they did have some um

uh barb wire around the the field in the

in the building, which made me hesitate

for a second, but there was a it was a

parking lot. So um I I just went in and

parked. Um, I was on the phone with my

MS here and

uh told her, you know, uh, we'll see how

it goes. We'll see what they say here

and I I'll I'll call you in a few. Um,

I ended up not being able to call it

back for about seven hours. Um,

and you can being in the military for a

while, you

notice when there's a lot of high

ranking people around and you notice um

when there's a little bit of a buzz and

I I walked in there,

I didn't know if it if this was just a

new type of army uh that I haven't seen

for a while. Um, but I walked up to the

front desk. I sort of told him what I

wanted. I initially talked to one

captain for about five minutes um and

then he stepped back out. He was going

to go get someone. I stood there at the

front and as I did um the guy that I

thought was an XSF guy um he had walked

out from uh from wherever it was and he

was sort of walking out to the to the

front doors and he stood there for a

while waiting and then uh three more

people came came around silly dressed

and one he looked like a congressman uh

had the pin, had the flag um you know

congressman suit. Um, and there were a

couple of people next to him and

obviously they were trying to talk to

him and

uh they were sort of ping around. Um,

but it was also sort of serious and um,

uh, some of the military lieutenant

colonels there and the and the unit

sergeant major escorted them out. Um,

they got into one of the GSAs. Um, for

anybody in the military that knows about

GSA, it it's the

>> they own everything in the government.

>> Could you Sorry, for those of us who

don't know about this GSA, just to to

break it down for us, I'm sorry to be so

ignorant. What does that stand for?

>> No. Uh, what was it? Government services

uh administration or

>> Okay,

>> I forget what it is.

>> No worries. Um what they they basically

maintain all the property for the U for

the federal government.

>> Okay.

>> Um

so if you're in the military or if

you're in federal government and you

need a vehicle,

uh basically you you go to one of the

GSA places and it's like renting a

vehicle at at Enterprise or something,

but you have orders attached to it. Um,

some of those vehicles there, they're

reserved. Uh, at any GSA where they have

VIPs that come in,

for those in the know, they they keep a

reserve um set of vehicles and they're

extra shiny. They're they're like new

off the lot. Um,

you know, their tires aren't worn very

well. So,

uh, they all got into one of those

vehicles and they they left. The

sergeant major came back in. Him and I

was I was teasing him about his tabs and

how he didn't have his long tab and uh I

think he had a Ranger tab and airborne

or no, he didn't have airborne, he had

airs assault. Anyway, uh I was teasing

him about some of that. Um was supposed

to go back and talk to him. I was

finishing signing in when um yeah, a

couple more captains came around the

corners and they escorted me way out. Um

they wanted to take me out of the

building. I thought I was getting

arrested and I didn't know what I had

done wrong.

Uh

yeah, I'd given my name, uh the missions

I had been attached to. Um

I given the purpose why I was there. Uh,

so and I was very polite about I was

trying to be discreet as possible

and um I had no idea what I was walking

into. Obviously,

you know, when congressmen are around,

there's something special going on.

Uh, but yeah, they escorted me out

across the parking lot to the park

benches there and uh me, one of the

captains there, his name was Captain

Nef. Um, nice guy.

Um,

yeah. And I I started telling him my

story, what I'm telling you, and and

what I was there for. Yes, that's the

guy. Um, real decent gentleman.

Um,

and as we sat there, the other captain

went in uh was going to get the Sergeant

Major, and

uh I don't know what exactly what

happened, but uh before long, there was

bunch of cruisers pulling up. There were

police officers from different levels of

the government. Um, I couldn't tell you

all the different types of of um, law

enforcement that were there uh,

surrounding me and sort of putting up a

wall between me and and the front door.

Um, I did catch that there was yet

another I don't know if it was the same

GSA vehicle returning or a different

one, but that did pull up to the

building. Uh, I couldn't see who got in

it. And um

it ended up sort of a big deal. They

kept interrogating me uh trying to

gaslight me, ask me if I what I was

there for, like I was some sort of a

spy. Um I Yeah. And then they mentioned

a bomb threat. They wanted to check my

vehicle.

Uh mentioned that because I was in

special forces, uh obviously I must be

some sort of a bomb threat. And for me,

I I just figured

uh this had to be some sort of the false

flagging that uh that I've encountered

from before. Um

some sort of residual effect from that.

So you're just thinking, you know, this

has got something to do. This has been

35 years running. The government's

corrupt. It's all about me fighting this

cartel tunnel and this is just going to

be the story of my life never getting

any justice. That's what's going through

your mind.

>> Yeah. At this point, yeah, people, you

know, people in the government start

pointing guns at me. my house been

squatting and stuff like that. I I just

rolled my eyes. Um I literally

>> Sorry.

>> I was just throwing my car keys out.

They wanted my car keys. I I chucked it

over and said, "Yeah, if you don't mind,

park it closer cuz my bones are getting

old and it hurts.

>> I don't want to walk that far." Um

>> so sad.

>> So, Captain Nef was really nice. And um

I asked him what this was about. He he

tried to shrug it off and say he didn't

know. There was another lady that seemed

to be uh conducting the

what this overreaction was. Um

and she was defin you know she was in

plain clothes undercover big sunglasses

Hispanic woman.

Um

but you know if I had to guess probably

secret service or something like that.

Uh she didn't want to approach me

directly. She was she was directing how

other people would approach me and ask

me questions, get my documents, stuff

like that. Uh eventually they said,

"Okay, we're going to take you to

another location." They took me to uh

they finally showed me where the C

building was, I guess. Um put me in

there and they recorded me for a while.

um asked me a few questions and were

they were very

very concerned about the next 24 hours

like they wanted

they wanted to make sure I don't know

maybe that I wasn't there for some other

purpose or related to something.

Um it was

it was pretty odd. Um they didn't answer

any of the questions I was there for. Uh

they didn't give me the documentation

they wanted. They did give me a report

number to go ahead and you you went

ahead and I gave that to you.

>> You did.

>> Uh we'll see what that says. But um

yeah, they were looking for any excuse

to try and um

hold me up for like 24 hours. And that

24-hour number kept getting repeated u

by them. And then eventually they didn't

have anything to hold me. I wasn't a

harm to myself or others. I wasn't there

to, you know, spy on anybody. Um, I

really just wanted to get records and

and get out of that desert.

Um,

as reminiscent as it was, the place

creeps me out a little bit. So,

uh, yeah, once they said you have to

stay off base for 24 hours, I was,

"Don't worry about it. I ain't coming

back."

Um got to Tucson, stayed the night there

in a hotel. Um never got a refund on my

Candlewood Suites. Uh but um

yeah, got on the plane and um

before we touched down, I had a stop off

in Salt Lake City. By the time we

wheeled down that, you know, we got the

news about Charlie Kirk. Um,

and of course that's been just all over

the

all over the um all over the news.

Everybody's watching it. And um

you know I I don't think anybody's

believing what the federal government's

saying about it for sure. But

uh what I noticed

um I don't know these people from TP

USA.

um never been associated.

I could recognize Charlie Kirk probably,

but um what I started seeing come across

and got more familiar once I saw a

picture of somebody in a ponytail with

those eyes,

that was that person. They were there.

And um

yeah, the head of security there, he was

one of the people walking out with the

congressman.

Now,

how would I know that? I I just I just

have a gift for recognizing people. And

yeah, maybe it's not him. Maybe as

doppelganger,

but somebody with the same mannerisms,

the same crick in his neck, face, waxy

look on his face,

hand gestures, uh, shoulder shrug, gate,

approximate height, haircut

definitely walked past me. Um,

and

>> you had to put it at a percentage that

you were looking at Brian Harpole. Maybe

he's got a brother in the military. Who

knows, right? Maybe he does have a

doppelganger. He's got a twin brother.

Who knows? And I want to be clear, I can

confirm on this podcast live every step

of your story in terms of where you

went, what time you were there. Um that

there was this big meeting that

happened. I confirmed a location with

other people that are that are on uh

Fort Wuka currently. I can confirm

everything with metadata. Um I obviously

can't confirm that you saw who you say

you saw. If you had to put it at a

percentage that you saw Brian Harpole,

what percentage would you put it at?

>> 95.

>> 95%. Okay.

>> 95 to 99. I

when I saw him, you know, on the

interview with the with his face and

gestures, um I Yeah. with that photo,

it struck me in my gut.

Um,

I blew it off

until there was,

you know, some other pictures that came

up with other people. Um,

>> what other people? Other pictures.

>> Uh, if you want me to say it,

there's a picture of Erica Kirk with a

ponytail and um from from her past.

That person matches who I saw at Fort

Wuka in the lobby the night before and

she was with that with that man in the

lobby and that man he was present at

that meeting

uh the next morning.

>> So

>> if you had to put it at a percentage

that you saw that the girl in the

ponytail matches the description of

Erica Kirk, what percentage would you

put that at? Those are really rare eyes.

Um,

that's 95 to 99%. I I

I can't imagine somebody else.

Okay. So, what I'm going to say because

obviously this that's very explosive and

it's it's one of the reasons why I

wanted I wasn't sure if I wanted to have

you on. And I'm going to be honest with

you because I

gosh I mean I guess I'll tell you the

conflict that I had and just be just as

honest with you as as you are being with

me. The first thing was I can't confirm

it, right? I can confirm where you were.

I can do all of that and but I I can't

confirm what you what you think you saw.

I don't know you. Um I don't know there

are people like my husband who we can

see someone once and he recognizes that

person 10 years later exactly where we

saw them and there are people like me

and I kind of have facial blindness

until I meet someone three times. The

second thing was I didn't want people to

wrongly extrapolate things and say,

"Okay, well, maybe she was on the base.

Maybe she w there's a chance she wasn't

on the base, right? That she has a

doppelganger. People do have

doppelgangers. I have doppelgangers,

right?" Um, but let's say she wasn't the

base. Let's say you're right and you saw

her. This is the night before. This is

on the ETH. Maybe she was in the hotel,

>> but maybe she was there for a different

reason. Maybe she was there because

she's always been open about the fact

that her mother moved to Arizona because

she got involved with the military. So

that could be totally unrelated to the

meeting that took place on the 9th and I

didn't want to. But then I I I said to

myself, I am this man has lived through

so much. You know what I mean? This man

has lived through so much and I would be

turning my back on this really a hero

discovering the cartels who's lived

through so much and has been treated

like the government. And then I I

struggled with my own soul going, I'm

turning my my back on him because I'm

afraid of backlash for allowing him to

tell the truth. And so and and my soul

was in conflict. And I decided that you

know what, I am not this is not my

platform. Okay? I I genuinely believe

this is God's platform. I am a conduit.

I don't know why I have a platform. And

I don't know why you have this luck in

life. I really don't. I don't know why

these things happened to you or why they

happened to me, but I know that my my

prayer was very intentional that night

uh that I received that email. So, I'm

going to allow the internet to hear your

testimony, hear what you think. And I

also want to show them a picture because

we did look through some congressmen and

I didn't tell you where they were

congressman from, but there is one that

you thought looked familiar. Uh and I am

going to show that picture of him now.

Uh, this is and Skyler, someone's got to

get in my air because I'm blanking on

his name. Mark,

is that right? Mark from Las Vegas. And

you thought that this could potentially

be the congressman that you saw on the

ninth.

>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> That's the one that walked closest to

you.

>> That's 95. I'm absolutely, you know,

after I've looked at it, um, that's

Yeah, that was definitely the guy.

>> Okay.

Now, we have then been able to look at

flights and look at who could have been

at that meeting. We were able to confirm

based on a call sign that there was

somebody heavy duty that was at Fort

Wuka Air uh Fort Wuka, pardon on that

morning who uh made sure to turn off

their transponder. So we are the clues

the picture is coming together that you

saw what you saw then that call sign did

change at a certain time which lets us

know that then it could have been moved

to a congressman. There could be a

chance that that person they were

blocking you from seeing when they all

lined up might have been someone that is

it could be Cash Patel. I mean I have it

could be Cash Patel. That's someone who

could have a call sign running ideas. It

could also not be him. Uh and I I want

to be clear. I do think you saw I think

I think that is the reason they

surrounded you was to make sure you

couldn't see who was walking out. I

think your instincts are right on that

and

I don't know what to say other than I

know what you are going to go through

now and I want you to know that you have

an ally with me and I know how much you

are already going through fighting them

and I intend to help you raise money uh

to go through these lawsuits with the

federal government. I know this is not

easy. I know what your kid has been

through. I know what your wife has been

through and no one should have to be

through this, have to go through this

because they told the truth and

potentially stumbled upon something

corrupt, did definitively uh stumble

upon something corrupt. And I think the

public will be with you because they see

what I'm going through right now uh

being sued by a transatlantic

president overseas for just trying to

tell the truth. And um I just want you

to know that like I know that this is

hard for you and given everything you've

been through, but like I am here with

you. I'm going to to fund raise money

for you and I'm here for you and your

family through whatever comes next.

>> Oh boy, that's really wonderful. I I um

and I've told you thank you.

I'd like to see justice. I'd like to see

our

I'd like to see our government being

honest again or some some level.

I don't know

why I was there or why I got to see what

I did or or how I happened to walk in on

something. I wasn't there to,

you know, obviously I didn't know what

was going to happen the next 24 hours.

It seems coincidental that that was the

number they kept bringing up and

whatever they were doing, it was

important and they didn't want any

anybody looking at it. And okay, the

military does that stuff. That's that's

what they do. I

thank you, you know, for everything, but

really

after hearing some of the other stuff,

hearing about some of the threats

against you and I and I do I watch some

of the other podcasters, Valhalla, um

really good guy, even if he he gave me a

bunch of

bunch of crap about stuff. Um fellow

brother there from First Group. Um,

no, he he had uh

when he interviewed the French Foreign

Legion, he and he got to learn a little

bit about sometimes how in the

intelligence world how things cross over

and other countries are a little bit

dirtier and they borrow resources from

us. Um, for Wuka is one of those places

they would have to have done that.

And when I I had I had to pray myself

and be on I I tried to I just wanted to

give

I just wanted to give you a tip. Uh

since you're pulling on these threads

and I had no idea that you were going to

do all this. Uh-huh.

>> I want you to know there there were

there were literally

>> 51,000

emails unanswered in that box

>> and I went to church and I prayed and I

said, "Give me something." And I it was

it was the first email just like I said

to you. I mean I what did I call four

minutes after the email was sent and it

was actually me. I didn't send it to

like my producer. I was just like, "Hey,

maybe maybe this is it." And I I can't

help but to see God in in that. And and

not, you know, God as in people being

trained in intelligence to make us think

that everything is holy, but rather

truly I saw God in that. And um yeah,

just it just it's it's stunning. It's

it's hard not to see God in something

like that happening in that order. So um

I don't know what comes next, but I just

want you to know that like you have an

ally in me and I I will I'm a I hope you

see that I am a fighter and when I see

good people and bad things happen to

them, I will fight. And same for the

people that watch this podcast. They are

they are they are fighters as well. So,

and they've had my back and they will

have your back. I promise you that.

>> I really appreciate that. There are a

lot of people in the military who um we

see things. I'm sure there's people down

at Fort Wuka and other places that have

seen things and and um there's a lot of

people that stay quiet to stay nice to

to you know um not be in conflict. and

I had to pray.

Um, this doesn't help

this doesn't help my situation at all.

It's going to aggravate it. I'm

absolutely sure. And, um,

but the truth matters. And, um,

that's why we wanted to send this up to

you. We had no idea all of a sudden

you'd be calling us.

U, that was

You really interrupted our gym time, by

the way. and we really need it. Um,

typically I try to laugh things off

quite a bit, but things are getting

quite serious and uh, I think Baron

Coleman, he gets it. Um,

keep pulling those threads

>> and I hope stay safe

>> and same to you. And, um, like I said, I

I'm going to put together a fundraiser

for you um, you know, imminently. So,

and this is obviously it's just the

first conversation we're having. Uh, I

just want to thank you from the bottom

of my heart, not not just for for

sharing what happened, and I do believe

you are missing piece of this. I also

want to thank you for your service. I

want to thank you for trying to do what

our government should be doing, which is

stopping the cartels and not partnering

with them. And so, just to thank you for

your military service and all that

you've gone through.

>> Thank you, Miss H. Thank you, Candace.

>> Thank you.

>> We will say thank you also.

Thank you guys.

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this is normally the part of the show

where I push things that I am selling on

the website. But what I'm going to say

to you instead is that I will get

together a give andgo for Mitch and his

family. Um, like I said, I've seen

illegal paperwork. He they they've

endured hell. They've endured hell and

he's been enduring that hell because he

did his job. It sickens me. Our

government sickens me. people telling me

that I need to worry about midterms when

there's just so much corruption that is

happening um and good men that are being

persecuted while bad men are being

protected. Uh so I wanted to just

basically say that you if you look on my

socials I'll make sure that I get a uh

fundraiser out for Mitch and his family

and hopefully we can help them with some

of the legal costs that they have

endured.

Curbster writes, "We stand behind you,

Mitch, and your family just as much as

we stand behind Oh, we stand behind you,

Mitch, and your family just as much as

we stand behind Candace. Thank you for

your service and continued bravery and

resolve despite our government not doing

the same for you. May God continue to

protect you and use you to reveal the

truth." That's very I'm sure that's

going to make them cry. I know that they

were in tears from all the messages of

support that they got uh the first time

around when I when I just shared their

story. Meline writes, "Thank you,

Candace, for keeping me sane these last

hundred or so days. I still cannot

believe that Charlie is not among us,

but um thank you for trying to find who

really did this to him and for helping

us all get through it. Like I said, this

feels like the like there's nothing more

important than getting to the bottom of

this because the implications are so far

reaching. And for me, it is I I I just

have I don't care about politics

anymore. I just don't care. Uh and I do

believe that our government was involved

in this. our government is involved in

the cover the cover up and the people

that would have to okay that would be

the very people that Charlie fought for

uh he fought for them to get into office

sleepless nights fighting for those

people to be in office and so like I

said over and over again I don't care

about your midterms I just don't care

about your midterms I want to know who

killed Charlie Kirk and I want to know

why I want to know why he had to die

Martin Box writes thank you for being my

compass throughout the last few months

and helping me to gauge right from wrong

Christ is king indeed Indeed, Christ is

king. Bitsy Figarino writes, "I

recognize the psychological religious

operation going on since Trump was

elected. It's been wild to watch. Christ

called us to be peacemakers. I would

like to help with pre-born. I'm in

Arizona and I'm also an ultrasound tech.

They know they will know us by our love.

Please reach out to Preborn. They do

fantastic work and you are right to

recognize that." They were also

gaslighting us about that. And I'm I was

saying like there are so many of these

people that have

very high up military and military uh

military connections who are have these

platforms and all they do is they focus

on the Bible and I'm telling you there's

something wrong. There's just something

that is wrong. And you can kind of see

the mask slip now because these people

purport to care about what happened to

Charlie and the easiest thing is to

demand truth and instead they're

protecting people like Josh Hammer. This

is like such an obviously bad person. he

lied and they'll go out of their way to

protect those individuals. That's a

psychological operation. That's not the

truth. And it's actually in many ways

the most sadistic of all psychoper

psychological operations because what

they're doing is they are asserting

themselves as the we are the most

literate in scripture. So we can tell

you whether or not your soul is going to

be condemned uh if you listen to this

person or or you don't listen to this

person. It it is uh it makes me sick.

Like I said, I hold the most contempt

for those that hold up the Bible as they

criticize people knowing fully well that

they could care less about what's in the

Bible and they just want to take swipes

and attack somebody and feel justified

in doing it. It's so it's so arrogant.

Uh and it's I think it's also

tremendously evil because there are

people that follow you and they are true

Christians.

Namarie Valamar writes, "Those who have

been watching every single episode would

not abandon ship. Do not lose hope, but

place your trust in Christ alone. The

Holy Spirit will bring discernment. That

is true. And I think that's what this

has been the story of. We all have

spiritual discernment. Right? We are

feeling things on a spiritual level. And

we are having people that think they can

replace our spirit with garbage and just

like, well, enough of us will say this

and then it will be true. We'll just

keep saying Tyler Robinson. We'll just

keep saying the evidence is overwhelming

and we'll somehow hijack the spirit. And

and this time we're saying no. Ivan

writes, "The more haters, the more we

know that you are on on track. Go Max

Candace. Again guys, I'm going to jump

off because we are over time here, but

uh you will be hearing more from me on

my socials. I will put up a g send go

for Mitch and his family. Uh we will

obviously be giving in a big capacity

and I hope that you guys will join me in

doing that. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

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