All language subtitles for Beyond Skinwalker Ranch - 3x02

Tonight, on
Beyond Skinwalker Ranch.

The things that
were going on there

were just so frightening
and almost unbelievable.

Who is in the house?

I want to know who
is in the house.

Whoa, you see this?
Yep.

Yeah, that's angry.

That does look angry.

Are you OK?

I'm in pain.

It feels like
knives, 10,000 knives

in the top of my shoulders.

For years,
scientists have

been working to reveal the
secrets of Skinwalker Ranch.

But is it possible
that the clues

to unlock the
mystery are located

beyond the borders of this
hub of high strangeness?

Wow.

Now, an ex-CIA
agent and a veteran journalist

have been recruited
by the Skinwalker team

to go on a high-stakes
mission across America.

Look at all
this activity that's happening.

That's unbelievable.

That is
right over our heads.

That's it.
That's it right there.

The goal--
uncover evidence that

may finally expose the truth.

How
is this happening?

Now, it's
going to get interesting.

Look, it's moving!

Look at that!
Look at that!

Whoa!

Whoa!

This is just the beginning.

Paul and Andy,
Rocky Mountain Ranch,

we're headed back again.

Tell us the plan.

Rocky Mountain
Ranch, this location,

which looks like really
an idyllic ranch setting,

has delivered over and over,
these incredibly strange

phenomenon.

And the story begins
with, you know,

a young girl who spent
a lot of time at this

place in the early 1970s.

Right, a child, Katie

Paige, who has gone on to become
a respected UFO researcher.

And what her relationship
is with this ranch

seems to be something that
we have been able to actually

literally measure in the past.

During their
first investigation,

Katie shared a story of one of
her most traumatizing memories

on the ranch as a child.

All the lights
in the house went out.

And at that moment, it was like
from every orifice of the house,

this electronic sounding
voice comes out of the house.

And it basically
stated, you know,

we have allowed you to remain.

Your friends will be instructed
to remain silent concerning us.

That must have
been terrifying.

It was terrifying.

Later, the
team did an experiment

to see if Katie could
trigger the house to speak

to her again using a ham radio.

We are back and we
want to talk to you.

Whoa.

Whoa.

The house is absolutely
reacting to Katie's voice.

After analyzing the
audio from the experiment,

Travis and Erik also
theorized that the house

was responding to Katie.

It's like the
ranch recognizes her.

You know, we've seen things
like that here on Skinwalker.

There's a long history here
of reported sightings that have

to do with blacked-out
helicopters, a military

presence, possible spacecraft.

There have been orb sightings.

There have been
cryptid sightings.

That's a heck of a list.

There are so many parallels
between these two locations,

between Rocky Mountain
Ranch and Skinwalker Ranch.

In both cases, you've
got unsuspecting families

whose lives are totally
upended by these phenomenon.

And we're always
trying to think

of how do we go and unlock
the secrets that are

there at Rocky Mountain Ranch.

And we think we might have a
strategy that's unique here.

We are now in touch
with Katie's older sister.

Her name is Kris.

Much like Katie, on
our first time around,

she's never been back.

She says that she and Katie,
and Katie confirms this,

do not really talk about
this part of their childhood.

So what we may have is
sort of a new dataset.

A second witness that
has not been corrupted

by years of conversation
between the two of them

about their experience.

This is going
to be like opening

a time capsule for these two.

We know what this ranch
does with Katie present.

But what will this ranch do,
how will this ranch react

if we bring a new experiencer?

We're going
to focus on communication.

We're going to focus
on radio signals.

We're going to
focus on things that

may be links between
the experiencers

and the ranch itself.

Yeah, we want to
double down and push

the limit as much
as we can and really

try to poke this hornet's nest.

We have a metaphor for what
we think could be going on,

at least here at
the ranch, and it's

kind of like how your phone,
when you get into different cars

and you pair it to that
car, you can be away

from that car for a long time.

And when you come
back, your phone

will remember it and
pair to it because you've

handshook with it before.

We've had people that we brought
that hadn't been on the ranch

in 20, 15 years, and as soon
as they got back, you know,

things started happening.

It's like the ranch
remembered the person.

It is a unique
observational opportunity.

It'll be really interesting.

Can't wait to see it.
- OK.

Appreciate it, man.

Thanks, guys.
Yeah.

All right.

Due to the sensitive
nature of this investigation,

the current owners of
Rocky Mountain Ranch

have asked for their names and
location to be kept anonymous.

I'm really excited to be
going back to this ranch.

I mean, of all the
places that we've been,

every time we come back to
the Rocky Mountain Ranch,

something new happens.

Yeah, I mean, coming
back really for the third time

now, we've got a deep dataset.

Right, now, the last
time we were here,

we really were able to
focus in on some sort

of overhead anomaly
happening at the landing site

in front of the ranch house.

During their
last visit to the ranch,

Andy and Paul investigated an
intense hotspot on the property

known as the landing site.

This is the area
that Katie described

as a strange, barren circle
where she and her sister

played on the ranch
when they were young.

There was this
very large, dry-dirt,

snowless circle, as if something
was sitting here or something.

It's also the
same spot where the team

had multiple rockets crash.

Oh my goodness.

And it's
theorized that there

may be a portal overhead.

Whether it's
literally a portal

opening up or even if
it's just some sort

of electromagnetic phenomena
that at least gives you

the impression of that, all the
recipe is there for something

like this to happen.

There's really something
interesting about that location.

I'm so curious to see what we
learn from Kris, from the new--

from our new
experiencer and what

we can really try to understand
about these aerial phenomenon.

I mean, it's just bizarre.

Now the
current ranch owners, Greg

and his daughter
Nicole, have told me

that they've actually had
some new experiences since

the last time we've been here.
Right.

So I'll meet with
Greg and Nicole

and understand what they've
been doing at the ranch.

And in the meantime, you
can head out to meet Kris.

Perfect.

Yeah, we've got a lot
of ground to cover.

I think the divide-and-conquer
strategy is the way to go.

Talk to you soon.

Morning.

Nice to see you again.

Oh, we got some
new faces here.

Yes.
This is my sister, Julie.

- Nice to meet you.
- Julie, it's nice to meet you.

- You know Nicole.
- Hey, nice to see you.

Nicole, good to see you again.

Well, I understand there's
been some new experiences,

some new stories.

You OK, buddy?

He's trying to tell his side.

I understand.
I like your side.

Well, what have you seen?
What have you heard?

Oh, it was just some
strange lights in the house.

In the house?

In the house.

It was probably 1:00
or so in the morning.

And then there's two
skylights in the back bedroom.

And if, like, somebody
is coming from the barn,

you can see the light
coming through one of them.

And if someone's coming
down the driveway,

you'd see the lights coming
through the other one.

Well, this particular
light came straight

down through both of them.

Wow.

And it lasted probably
10 seconds or so.

And then about 10, 15 minutes
later, it did it again.

What?

And it was basically
coming straight down.

Coming straight down, which
implies that the light source

is actually over the house.

Yes, yes.

That's the way we thought.

That is so strange.

We've collected data that speaks
to some kind of overhead anomaly

here.

What that is, we're still
trying to figure out.

But we've measured it
electromagnetically.

We've measured it with rockets.

So we know that
there's something

happening above the ranch.

We just don't know when,
why, how it is happening.

While Andy
continues his conversation

with the current
ranch owners, Paul

sits down with
Katie's sister, Kris,

to discuss her own
experiences on the ranch.

So what was it
like growing up out here?

Katie and I had an
interesting childhood.

I was a teenager at the time.

And so I, being
the older sister,

would take care of Katie a lot.

A lot of what happened
there and during that

time has kind of been really
shoved down in my psyche.

Like, there's a lot
of blocking going on.

The things that
were going on there

were just so frightening
and almost unbelievable.

It's things that if you went
to talk to your friends about,

you wouldn't do it.

Because you would just be
mocked and ridiculed and be

labeled a liar.

Is it something that
you didn't talk about?

Oh, absolutely not.

We were instructed not to ever
talk about it, and we didn't.

We didn't.

So here's the big question.

When you say we were
instructed never

to talk about "it," what is it?

It being--

OK, that's a great question.

Yeah.

"It" being the
events at the ranch.

One major impactful incident
that happened within the house,

it was a night like where
everybody's in a good mood

and playing games.

And out of the
blue, bam, bam, bam,

bam, bam, but on
the wall outside

of the house, a forceful pound.

It wasn't,
Hello, anybody home?

No, it was boom, boom, boom.

Everything just screeched
to a halt, right?

That's when the voice
starts, in my recollection,

you know, a voice
coming into the house.

We have allowed you to stay.

Your friends will not
say anything about us.

It felt like it was under
the threat of death.

OK.

So everybody is, like,
frozen in their tracks--

in their tracks.

Right.

Very, very, very frightening.

Yeah, like, I can see it.

Your whole demeanor, you
just went back there.

Yeah.

Another thing that was kind of
freaky, I guess you would say,

is there was a large
circle in the field.

And Katie and I would--

I don't know if you'd say hang
out there, but we'd, you know,

toss a Frisbee or
a ball or whatever.

It was just in the front.

There was snow around every once
in a while like you have here.

And there was no snow
in this perfect circle.

So it was almost like
an eerie feeling.

Those kind of memories,
they're a long time ago.

Secondly, they're almost like
a dream-like state in my brain.

But how I know it wasn't a dream
is because there's documentation

that it wasn't a dream.

What was
unknown to Katie and Kris,

back in 1978, around the same
time they were living there,

a group known as the Aerial
Phenomena Research Organization,

or APRO, also documented the
strange events at the ranch.

That APRO report,
when I first read it,

I was literally stunned
that things I had up in here

are on paper.

Right.

It feels like, you know, you
did your best to put it away.

Yeah.

But--

I wish I could release that.

I'd like to be able
to do that with this.

Well, we'll take it slow.

Thank you.

We have some experiments
that we'd like to try.

We would love to just walk
the grounds with you and Katie

and sort of, you know, see what
it brings up for you, what it

brings up for Katie,
for the two of you

to be back there together.

Yeah, it will be very,
very interesting to see

the feelings that come up--

Yeah.

from an adult
perspective, definitely.

So how do you feel,
knowing that we're just

a few minutes from childhood?

I'm a little
apprehensive, to be honest.

But I'm trying
not to be fearful.

I'm an adult. I'm
not that kid anymore.

After
almost 50 years, Kris

is returning to
Rocky Mountain Ranch

for the first time since
her strange experiences

there as a teenager.

OK, so here we are.

OK.

Now we're getting closer.

Huh.

Caught your
breath a little bit.

Wow.

Oh my gosh.

Wow.

Here we are.

Here we are.

- Welcome back, brother.
- Hey, man.

- Hello.
- Hello.

I'm Andy.

Hi, Kris, nice to meet you.

Kris, it's so great
to have you back.

Yeah.

It's-- how did I
get here, you know,

like, after all these years?

It's
been a long journey.

Yeah.
Should we--

Yeah, yeah.

-walk
up a little bit.

Yeah.

Wow.

OK.

Wow.

Oh, it's so weird
to be back here.

You all right?

Wow.

Um.

Wow.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I do have some emotions.

Oh.

I told myself I
wasn't going to cry.

A lot of memories here.

Yeah.

OK.
- OK.

- Let's keep going.
- OK.

I'm sorry.

No, you're doing great.

Wow.

Well, the trees are bigger.

Now, Kris, this is
our first time meeting.

But let's go wherever
you feel called to go.

- Yeah.
- OK.

And if you'll just
share what you're feeling,

if you'll share what
you're thinking,

if you'll share
what you remember--

Mm-hmm.

Paul and I will immediately
know whether or not we have any

sort of data that is
correlative to whatever it

is that you experienced here.

We've talked to Katie.

We've learned what
she experienced when

she was about 10 years old.

Now we've got her
older sister, Kris,

who was a teenager at the time.

She's gonna have
a much different

sense, maybe better memories
of what she experienced here.

This is a great
opportunity for us

to paint a fuller picture of
the experience of this place.

I want to keep
walking this way.

Sure, yeah.

Like, from the house,
I don't know, maybe--

like, maybe in this--

do you mind if we walk
a little bit further?

Absolutely.

More this way.

Wherever you feel drawn to.

OK.

Just trying to get a sense of
how far we are from the house.

Oh, this looks interesting.

I feel sick to my stomach.

Oh, no.

Suddenly or--

Just getting a little
nauseous feeling.

Emotional or--

I don't know.

It's OK.

Well, this is something
that's very interesting to us.

Yeah.

Where you have parked
us is exactly where

Katie showed me
where the spot was

that you used to play Frisbee.

The landing site
where Kris has led them is also

where the team has
had two rockets crash

in previous investigations.

Oh my goodness.

And when
Terra Exploration Group

ran a drone-based
investigation here,

the results were
completely unexplainable.

All that black area there
is no magnetometer data.

I can't explain it.

It's never happened before.

I'm kind of speechless
right now, to be honest.

What we're seeing here
is that you and your sister

seem to be antennas that pick
up the energy this ranch.

And we're in a position to help
unlock a little bit of what

might be happening here.

Yeah.

Because we can bring the data
and the experiences together.

You can see the memories
that this place is prompting.

You can see sort of the pieces
coming back together for her.

And she's just here by herself.

I'm really curious
to see what happens

when she's here with Katie,
when they're here together.

Now that
Kris has had a chance

to explore the ranch on
her own with Andy and Paul,

the team brings the
two sisters together

later that night,
before launching

into their first experiment.

Katie, it's great to
have you back on the ranch.

And it's really something
else to have the two of you

here at the same time.

Yeah, this is the first
time we've been back here

together since we were kids.

I've, you know,
spent my entire life

not wanting to know
anything about this,

just trying to get rid of it.

Because it was very frightening.

And, you know, you don't
want to carry that around.

I mean, this was not like
a month or two or weeks.

This was three years of our
life where this activity was

at its height, of circles on the
ground and disembodied voices

and hums and all of it.

It was a lot to process.

And for us to come together to
face that together is fantastic.

Well, we will literally
take it one step at a time.

I think, you know,
for Andy and I,

the idea is we really are--
you know, we're here with you,

but we're also observing you.

We want to see how you react.

And, you know, we're
going to follow your lead.

Welcome back, Jares.

Hey, glad to be back.

Jares, great to
have you again.

Wonderful to be back.

Tell me a little bit about what
we're planning to do again here.

I know what kind of
equipment I have here,

but I don't know exactly
what we're trying to do.

Our goal here is
to exactly replicate

the same experiment we
did with you the last time

we were on this ranch.

For their
first experiment,

Andy and Paul have brought
in engineer and ham radio

specialist Jares Doverspike
to test the theory

that the phenomena at
Rocky Mountain Ranch

might be able to communicate
with Katie and her sister Kris.

The most sort of
unsettling experiences

that both of the sisters report
having was the night when

the house was powered down, when
the entire house had lost power,

that somehow there
was a voice coming

through the stereo system.

During their
first investigation,

the team broadcasted Katie's
voice through a ham radio

into the house
and up into space,

capturing what appeared to
be the ranch responding back.

We are back, and we
want to talk to you.

Whoa.

Whoa.

Rocky Mountain Ranch

seems to have a number of things
in common with Skinwalker Ranch.

And one of the things
they have in common

is that the ranch seems to
have its own relationship

or its own response to
different people on the ranch.

So a big part of what
we're trying to do here

is bring in Kris and
see if we can't measure

a difference in the amplitude
between the two sisters

and the ranch itself.

For this experiment,
they're going to use a ham radio

to broadcast on a
1.6-gigahertz frequency,

which correlates with strange
phenomena and has been

used by the
Skinwalker team to try

to communicate with the ranch.

We're gonna be broadcasting a
sweep across this 1.6 gigahertz,

part of the spectrum where we're
getting these weird signals here

on the ranch.

We're going to
hopefully stimulate

the biggest response so far.

So your equipment
is exactly the same

as what we had here last time.

Exactly the same equipment.

Exactly the same setup.

It's transmitting on the
exact same frequency.

Pretty much couldn't
get more similar to what

we were doing before.

Andy and Paul have
also set up multiple vintage

radios to replicate the setup
when the sisters were children

in the 1970s and
heard electronic

voices coming through radio
speakers inside the house.

So this is the actual room
where Katie and her sister

experienced those
disembodied voices

that were coming from speakers
that had no power source.

This is our version of a
speaker with no power source,

a crystal radio that essentially
runs off of no external energy

at all.

And it's connected to
an oscilloscope here.

So the oscilloscope will show us
visually if there's any energy

coming from the crystal radio.

That's the heart
of this experiment

is to have this room filled with
highly sensitive equipment--

Right.

so that any change that's
perhaps even beyond human

hearing, the
equipment itself will

pick it up here and then tell
us from the safety of the patio.

All right.

Let's get these
guys turned on.

And then we'll be
ready to start.

The plan is, after
they broadcast a voice at 1.6

gigahertz into the
atmosphere, they

will use multiple
radios inside the house

and monitor for
any audio anomalies

coming from the speakers.

The most sensitive
radio they're using

is a crystal radio, which
works without electricity.

Attached to the crystal
radio is an oscilloscope,

which will graphically
display any electrical signal

coming from the crystal radio.

And then we also
have a spectrum

analyzer connected to a
highly sensitive microphone.

So anything those mics pick
up, we'll be able to see

in terms of a spectrum here.

The team is
adding additional data

to the experiment by setting
up two AI-powered UFODAPs that

can identify any unknown
aerial phenomena and also

a thermal camera to
capture any temperature

changes in the atmosphere.

Both instruments are focused
on the most intense hotspot

on the ranch, the landing site,
to monitor for any activity

during the experiment.

We know from our previous
experiment with Katie

that the house can react, that
something in the environment

here responds to her presence.

What's going to happen with
the two of them together?

That's what we're
here to find out.

Having both of us here should
prove to be quite interesting.

Yeah.

Let's find out.

- Hello.
- Hi.

- Hey.
- Hi.

- This is my sister Kris.
- Nice to meet you.

Hi, nice to meet you.

Kris, this is
Jares Doverspike.

He's our radio
experiment expert here.

We've seen an amazing
response with your sister

when she came out here and
did the same experiment.

We saw significant
variances in the static

that was actually being
produced by the AM radios.

What we're curious
about is whether or not

any part of this energy transfer
changes now that the two of you

are here.

Bottom line is the
only difference is you.

This is reaching
way back in time.

I mean, here you
are in the present,

you know, just outside the room
where one of the most salient

experiences you had
here took place.

How does it feel
to be back here?

Shocking.

And right now I'm a little
nervous, to be honest.

It stayed with
us all these years.

We'd sleep in the
same room because she

was a protector to me.

And I really looked
to her to protect me.

Well, we hope that we can
try to unpack and understand

a little better, you
know, what went on here

and what might still
be going on here.

So our first step here
will be basically a control.

Right.

Jares
will make an announcement.

and we'll see whether
or not there's

any reaction on the radio
spectrum to Jares' announcement.

- Everybody ready for this?
- All right.

- Go for it.
- All right.

CAN4, [bleep] CQ, CQ, CQ.

Let me know if anyone else
can hear me out there.

You can see what
baseline looks like when

Jares launches, right?

That's the length
of his transmission.

Otherwise, it looks the
same before and after.

OK.

OK, you're up.

OK.

Ready?

Speak directly
to the phenomenon.

CAN4 [bleep].

I'm going to be having
a secondary operator

off of my station.

Hi, I just want you
to know that I am here.

I was here many, many years ago.

And you significantly impacted
my life over these many years.

Here we are now trying to
figure out what's going on,

who you are, and
what you're about.

I saw a notice
on the oscilloscope

during that I don't think I
saw during my transmission.

When you spoke, there

was a completely different
signature on the oscilloscope

than when she spoke.

That's fascinating.

And that's not
what we would expect.

They should be the same.
It's just a human voice.

It's just energy.

Yeah.

This is not something
that would be typical.

If the oscilloscope changes,
that means that the crystal

radio is picking something up.
- Right.

Hmm.

That's a very
different response

than what we got with Katie.

Very different.

Last time with Katie, we saw a
spike on the spectrum analyzer.

This time we're seeing
something on the oscilloscope.

It's a little more subtle.

But no question-- we are seeing
a response from the environment,

from the house, from
whatever energy is here.

There's an energy
shift here happening.

Right.

It is very clearly tied to
Kris and her transmission.

Andy and Paul are
with Katie, Kris, and engineer

Jares Doverspike conducting
a ham radio experiment

to see if they can communicate
directly with the phenomena

on Rocky Mountain Ranch.

We haven't tested Katie
yet on the transmission.

Maybe that's the next step.
OK.

Ready for me to
call again, just

to do another baseline check?
- Yes, sir.

All right.

CAN4 [bleep] I'm gonna be
having a secondary operator

off of my station.

So that's normal.

OK.

OK, I'm ready.

All right, so who
is in the house?

Whatever you are--

I want to know
who is in the house.

Who am I talking to?

My sister and I, all these
years, we've lived with this.

And we want to know
who, what, and why

we're communicating with you.

I just saw it go nuts.

- Did you see it moving?
- For awhile, yeah, I did.

Right off the
bat, there's this,

like, intense
flicker of activity,

and then it stabilizes.

Right with her voice.

Yeah.

That thing changed,
that oscilloscope energy

changed significantly.

Wow.

That was-- that was something.

What
we were seeing before

in our first
experiment here, there

was an audible change only.

There was no change
in the oscilloscope.

Same person,
different response.

But again, the only
difference is the presence

of the other sister.

And I wonder if the
energy between you

somehow is affecting the
energy that you're putting out,

you know, that the sum is
greater than the parts.

Well, yeah, I think you're
making a fantastic point.

We did not account for the fact
that we have actually introduced

two variables, an
additional person,

but also a complete
change in energy

by putting the two
of them together.

Right.

Because I feel safer
with big sister here.

Oh, that's interesting.

Yeah.

We should introduce a
third element to the test.

We should have a transmission
from both of them.

OK, do it.

All right.

CAN4 [bleep].

I'm going to be having secondary
operators off of my station.

So, so many things
happened at this ranch

with pounding on the house,
with orbs flying off,

with a circle on the ground,
the landing site, um, what

is up with the landing site?

I mean, what was there
and what is still there now?

Is there something
still underground?

Is it above ground?

What is it?

This is something
that you need

to know terrified
many, many people here

for many, many years.

And if that's what you were
trying to do, job well done.

Wow.

I mean,
that was incredible.

That was a lot.
--in that time.

And the correlation about
when the energy shifts

happened along with what
you were talking about

was really significant.

The landing site, it just
seemed to just go vroom.

That's mind bending.

It really is.

It's mind bending that
there's something to respond.

But it's not a
response to all of us.

It's only a response
to the two of you.

Our control did not
get that response.

Whatever it is about the
sisters, about their presence,

about their--

their activation of
this environment,

it is having a measurable,
confirmable effect.

Our goal here really was to see
how you sort of changed the mix,

and I think what we've seen
here is, significantly.

You know, I've been
thinking that all data points

to some kind of relationship
between these two sisters

and the ranch itself.

One of the things that
we haven't tried yet

is just passively
observing what happens

when we let the two
sisters themselves

be the target of the study.

Right.

Instead of trying
to provoke a response

or trying to find the
boundaries of an anomaly

or trying to dig into
the energy source,

what if we just observed?

That's interesting.

Yeah, I mean, we've
never really done that.

What we've done
time after time is

try to use physical sort of
instrument-related triggers

to get some kind of
response from wherever

we are, right, whether it's
lasers or rockets or audio,

right?

This time we have the chance to
use really people as triggers.

Right.

So we use our technology
to see what's happening

in the invisible world.

But then we let these
two sisters come together

and essentially trigger
or bait the phenomenon

into showing itself.
- Right.

We know that
whatever relationship

these sisters hold
with the ranch

is an intense relationship.

So I feel like we should
take them to the most

intense anomaly on the ranch.

Right to the landing site.

Yeah, I mean, really, that's the
site where seemingly everything

happens at this place.

We'll set up all
of our equipment.

We'll put ourselves in
full observation mode.

We'll have the two of them
and really light the fuse

and see what happens.
- Sounds like a plan.

This place usually delivers.

We have everything
set up tonight

for I'm hoping what is
going to be one of our most

exploratory experiments here.

What we're going
to try to do here

is record the influence
that you two may or may

not have on this environment.
- OK.

All right.

For their final
test at Rocky Mountain Ranch,

Andy and Paul have brought
sisters Kris and Katie

to the landing site
to see if having them

both there together might
elicit any strange phenomena.

This is the
same place where both of you

independently took
me and identified

the bare spot in the ground.

It's also the spot
where we've had very

sophisticated equipment fail.

We've seen rockets fall out of
the sky, just in this very spot,

not to mention the fact that
we've had other report sources,

like the APRO report
itself, that all

reported strange phenomenon
happening in this area.

Yeah, right in this location.

The team has
set up thermal cameras

to monitor for any
changes in temperature,

AI-powered UFODAPs to
capture any aerial anomalies,

and a spectrum analyzer
to see what radio energy

is present in the environment.

So what we're doing right
now is establishing baselines,

trying to get a sense of what
does normal look like right out

of the gate so we
can measure anything

that changes against that.

You see that

Oh, look at that.

So what we're seeing here
is a very intense signal

here at 1.6128 gigahertz.

And then this is
showing you that there's

some fluctuating energy
that's related to that signal.

1.6 to 1.8 gigahertz
is a restricted frequency

range reserved for
Earth-to-space and

space-to-Earth communication.

I'm going to see

if there's anything else
happening in the spectrum, Paul.

Mm-hmm.

We're seeing this 1.6 signal.

Is this being triggered
by their presence?

Is it being triggered by
some of the experiments

we carried out earlier?

That's what we're
trying to figure out.

Is this the location where
you felt the nausea hit you?

Yes, mm-hmm, right away.

Nothing tonight, though?

No, nothing tonight.

Mm-mm.

Nope.

Whoa.

You see this?
Yep.

Yeah.

What is that, Paul?

Let me zoom out.

Look at all that
fluctuating energy.

Yeah, that's really weird.

That looks angry.

That does look angry.

What is that?

Wow,
what could that be?

It has an edginess to it.

Where all that
energy is coming from

is something beyond me.

Look at that,
and it's intensifying.

It's interesting
how it does that.

It'll just, like,
get mad almost.

You're interpreting
this to be anger?

Yeah, like angry at us
for trying to identify it

or to mess with it somehow.

To me, it's like, we--

they know we're here and we
know they're here kind of thing.

Mm-hmm.

My shoulders are
on fire right now.

So I don't know what that is.

Is it tied to the message
that you're getting or is

it tied to something else?

I have no idea.

I don't know.

It's the first thing
you said is it's angry.

So if you're feeling
like whatever

the phenomenon is is angry--

Right.

I mean, that obviously would
make you feel uncomfortable.

Yeah.

Are you OK?

Breathe.

Yeah, no, we're OK.

OK, so just keep us--

keep us in the loop.

Look at that.
Whoa.

Whoa, whoa.

This is up at
1.73 gigahertz, 1.731 gigahertz.

I mean, it just
keeps going and going.

Are you all right?

I gotta be honest,
you don't look OK.

Yeah, no--

You look like
you're really worried.

I'm in pain.
I'm in pain.

It's, like,
unbearable right now.

Yeah, I'm right here.

It's burning.

It feels like 10,000 knives in
the top of both of my shoulders.

OK.

OK.

Is it radiating downwards?

- Yeah.
- OK.

Like, right down into here.

OK.

I mean, she
looks very pale to me

now compared to
how she did before.

You all right?

A nine.

I just want to go get warm.

It's OK.

OK.
- Yeah, I'm concerned.

Yeah, look, we're just
going to walk you back.

All right.

I don't understand that.

Because the whole time
I was standing there,

I was, like, trying
to communicate--

Sit down here.

in my mind mentally.

And the more I did
that, the more that

was happening in my shoulders.

Wow.

Jeez.

When I first
took her blood pressure,

it was actually really high.

On the second one,
it calmed down.

I am obviously concerned
with what's going on.

And I am thinking that
whatever was going

on up there is a stressful--

a stressful environment.

I'm glad that we got her
out of that situation.

I don't think we
need to call 911.

But I am gonna kind
of monitor her.

Absolutely.

We're not going anywhere.

Yeah.

She's shaking.

I don't know why I'm shaking.

So, guys, welcome back
to Rocky Mountain Ranch.

Tell us what happened.

Where do we start?

Third time's a charm, guys.

Yeah, I have to
say that this was

one of our most
interesting experiences

at Rocky Mountain Ranch to date.

We started by engaging Kris.

And as soon as she landed,
it was astonishing to watch.

Because she took us,
of her own direction,

her own natural instinct,
back to that same bare spot,

that landing site.

And it was remarkable.

I mean, it's been 50 years.

So this is the opening of that
time capsule that I mentioned.

It was like she
was returning home.

Wow.

The next thing
we wanted to do was

try to get Kris and Katie
together to exactly replicate

the same ham radio
experiment that we

did during our very first
investigation with Katie alone.

Right.

So Jares came in.

He set up the same AM radios
that we had used before.

He set up the same crystal
radio that we had set up before.

We had a FLIR running and
we had our UFODAPs running.

OK.

So our production
team actually

put together a
number of highlights

for us, some very
interesting things

that happened at the same
time that the sisters were

present in the ranch house.

And I want to share
that with you next.

OK, we can correlate those.

- Correct.
- Yeah, OK.

Correct.

And here we actually have
the first clip happens,

when Katie and Kris
enter the room,

this is what
happens on the FLIR.

So this is what's wild, guys.

OK, what did we
just see there?

Here we
see this large black mass.

That's a cold burst.

In nature, thermal events
usually play out slowly.

Yes.

Not on
that timescale.

Yes.

And where are we looking?

Almost directly
over the landing site.

Are you kidding me?

Nope No.

Well, that certainly
changes my interpretation

of what we're looking at.

Yes, it does.

Think about it like this.

Wouldn't you say it's
about 68 degrees in here

or 70 degrees or something?

All right, now watch this.

If I had a FLIR over
here on this wall,

it would all be
pretty much one color.

Right.

Y'all feel that cold air?

FLIR would have just changed.

Right.

What is this?

Yeah, a portal.
A portal.

It's a portal.

Wow.

You're frustrating
me with this data.

Yes.

But not in a bad way.

Erik is always
frustrated, and I like

it when you get him that way.

[laughs] Now
we have more hits that we wanted

to run by you, this time
corresponding to the point

in the night where
Kris and Katie tell

the story of the voice that they
heard as children in the house.

So who is in the house?

Whatever you are, I want to
know who is in the house?

Who am I talking to?

And again, you can
see off to the right--

Yeah,
it's an airplane.

Mm-hmm.

There was a flash up there.

Right,
you saw that, too, right?

Yeah, yeah.

That's what we're
trying to make sense of.

It's bright.

Now, I picked up on something
as you played it this time,

Andy.

I was watching this plane
track across from the right

to the left here in
our field of view,

and it appeared that
it went like this.

I'm hitting play.

Here's real time again.

And, of course, of
interest to me here, given where

we're looking, is might we have
an optical anomaly taking place?

I
understand that's where

you were going with that.

Mm-hmm.

Oh, look at that.

That was significant.

Go back to that.

Right, just stop.

Now, play it forward.

Right there.

It's
consistently doing this.

It does a shuffle.

Yes, it almost appears that
we're viewing this aircraft

through some kind of shimmer.
Right.

This is exactly
what we've been

trying to capture for several
years now here at the Triangle.

You have a known light
source, commercial air

traffic way behind you.

And we see, as it
passes behind, what

we know to be an anomalous
hotspot or zone of interest,

the position and trajectory
of this air traffic

wiggles in a way that would
be reminiscent of a optical

distortion between us and it.

Whatever is
causing this, you're

saying there's some kind
of lensing effect here--

Yes.

that's happening in the
anomaly over the landing site.

Yes.

We got a lot of
data at that point.

You got rocket crashes.

You've got rocket malfunctions.

You've got this weird
hole in the grass.

We've got
missing magnetometer data.

I'm not gonna jump up and say,
hey, we just found a wormhole

or, hey, we just found the
portal, but here's the thing.

This, to me, is the
best piece of data

that you've gathered
on this experiment.

That is the best
example of what--

I mean, that is a good catch,
Erik, a very good catch.

Not the same night, but the
following night, the two sisters

agreed to go back to that same
bare spot, that landing site.

We moved our entire experiment
station out to the landing site.

OK.

We are right in it.

So I wanted you to see the
change in the RF spectrum.

OK.

All right.

Whoa.

You see this?
Yep.

Yeah.
- What is that, Paul?

Let me zoom out.

That's angry.

That does look angry.

Wow.
Whoa.

What could that be?

Is all that data?

It looks like it is.

Yeah, I mean, it looks
structured in a way

that it's someone's technology.

Right.

But whose?

And then I also wanted to show
you the response that we started

getting from Kris and Katie.

Are you all right?

I gotta be honest,
you don't look OK.

Yeah, no.

You look like
you're really worried.

I'm in pain.
I'm in pain.

It feels like knives,
like 10,000 knives

in the top of my shoulders.

Her response began as soon
as we saw the radio frequencies

start bouncing around.

She did not escape that
pain until we literally

removed her from that site
and took her into the garage

of the ranch house.

You went inside and
closed the garage door?

- Mm-hmm.
- Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Right, well,
which was probably

a fairly decent shielding.

We had one day here
where suddenly I was

getting nauseous, sick, pain.

So I went and got into
these metal silos.

And when I did, it's like
you flipped a switch.

I felt fine.

Son of a

Did it really go away?

Yes.

It's like a damn switch.

That was-- that
was freaky weird.

Somehow I
was being susceptible

to some sort of
electromagnetic event

that everybody else wasn't.

I would say that we're learning
every time we get together,

guys, as we go
beyond Skinwalker,

there's so many more aspects to
it that just keeping our arms

around it is not an easy task.

Yeah.

The biggest question I
have now for Katie and Kris

is how do they feel now?

Have they reconciled?

Have they made
peace with it or has

it stirred up something worse?

And I'd really be interested
to know that and know what they

think about, you know,
further, you know,

poking in this hornet's nest.

Because we're gonna poke,
whether they're with us or not.

We're going back to
wherever that anomaly is

and doing some
more measurements.

We'll start working
on a plan for what

we want that to look like.

Thank you for what you
brought to the table.

- It was a pleasure.
- Good job, guys.

Well, thanks, guys.
All right.

Thank you.
Yeah, man.

Great work.