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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,407 --> 00:00:15,648 The year was 1978 2 00:00:15,687 --> 00:00:18,901 when the killing spree of John Wayne Gacy finally came to an end, 3 00:00:18,941 --> 00:00:20,780 as Chicago police arrested him 4 00:00:20,818 --> 00:00:24,294 and began digging up bodies he had buried under his Summerdale house. 5 00:00:24,339 --> 00:00:25,939 Many called it the crime of the century. 6 00:00:25,982 --> 00:00:27,582 Some of the bodies were clothed 7 00:00:27,625 --> 00:00:31,706 and three of the bodies had ropes around their necks. 8 00:00:31,749 --> 00:00:33,623 He killed 33 times 9 00:00:33,661 --> 00:00:37,079 and his victims were all boys and young men between the ages of 14... 10 00:00:37,115 --> 00:00:39,961 He says he's a victim for being found guilty 11 00:00:39,997 --> 00:00:42,067 and he says the families are victims 12 00:00:42,110 --> 00:00:43,745 because they don't know who the real killer is. 13 00:00:43,787 --> 00:00:45,890 Testimony provided a frightening view inside the mind 14 00:00:45,932 --> 00:00:48,138 of the worst mass killer in American history. 15 00:00:48,179 --> 00:00:50,122 33 families... 16 00:00:50,156 --> 00:00:52,362 When you have a child taken out of your life, 17 00:00:52,404 --> 00:00:53,935 it's like a huge piece being ripped out... 18 00:00:53,980 --> 00:00:57,055 Cook County sheriff's deputies investigating the disappearance 19 00:00:57,098 --> 00:00:59,841 of a teenaged boy made a gruesome discovery 20 00:00:59,881 --> 00:01:02,728 in the crawl space beneath a Chicago residence. 21 00:01:02,765 --> 00:01:06,618 The owner of the house is local contractor John Wayne Gacy. 22 00:01:06,655 --> 00:01:08,725 The bodies of 28 victims have been recovered... 23 00:01:08,768 --> 00:01:11,774 He knew exactly what he was doing; he planned it in advance; 24 00:01:11,818 --> 00:01:14,264 he carried it out and he enjoyed it. 25 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:16,872 spree was initially uncovered on a cold December day 26 00:01:16,916 --> 00:01:19,452 when the first of his victims was found in the crawl space 27 00:01:19,497 --> 00:01:20,662 beneath his suburban Chicago home. 28 00:01:20,704 --> 00:01:22,578 In the crawl space, bodies covered with lye 29 00:01:22,615 --> 00:01:25,794 dug up a few days before Christmas, one after another. 30 00:01:25,834 --> 00:01:28,211 The bodies of 28 victims have been recovered; 31 00:01:28,248 --> 00:01:30,924 another five retrieved from the Des Plaines River... 32 00:01:30,965 --> 00:01:33,136 Tuesday, four bodies; Wednesday, six bodies; 33 00:01:34,084 --> 00:01:35,615 and today, six bodies. 34 00:01:35,660 --> 00:01:38,700 Skeletonized remains of human bodies. 35 00:01:38,744 --> 00:01:41,591 At one point he told police how he murdered his victims. 36 00:01:41,628 --> 00:01:44,612 Now he's telling me he never did. 37 00:01:44,646 --> 00:01:47,125 John Wayne Gacy was convicted in 1980 38 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,704 for the rape and murder of those 33 boys and young men, 39 00:01:50,747 --> 00:01:53,857 many of whom he buried under his Chicago house 40 00:01:53,899 --> 00:01:56,311 while others were found in the Des Plaines River. 41 00:01:56,347 --> 00:01:57,912 That was 13 years ago 42 00:01:57,957 --> 00:02:00,734 and today attorneys have filed their final appeal 43 00:02:00,774 --> 00:02:02,477 with the Seventh Circuit Court 44 00:02:02,517 --> 00:02:04,358 while Gacy remains on death row 45 00:02:04,395 --> 00:02:07,103 at the Menard Correctional Center in Illinois. 46 00:02:07,144 --> 00:02:11,260 The US Court of Appeals upheld his conviction and death sentence, 47 00:02:11,303 --> 00:02:14,481 a move that could clear the way for his execution within... 48 00:02:14,522 --> 00:02:16,658 Who are they talking about? 49 00:02:16,701 --> 00:02:19,582 Gacy. He just filed his last appeal. 50 00:02:19,618 --> 00:02:22,225 About what it's like to be waiting to die on death row. 51 00:02:22,268 --> 00:02:24,142 Due to be executed in six months... 52 00:02:24,178 --> 00:02:26,921 Feet off the coffee table. 53 00:02:26,961 --> 00:02:29,534 No, I don't sit around worrying about the death penalty. 54 00:02:29,577 --> 00:02:33,659 See, I'm a PMA kind of person... positive mental attitude. 55 00:02:33,702 --> 00:02:35,908 I don't have time for negative thinking and death... 56 00:02:35,947 --> 00:02:38,863 This guy's been in prison since '78 and they're just gonna kill him now? 57 00:02:38,898 --> 00:02:41,905 The reason it takes so long is 'cause of our appellate system. 58 00:02:41,950 --> 00:02:44,557 And refuses to cooperate with law enforcement. 59 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,439 This thing that I did... 60 00:02:46,476 --> 00:02:51,026 no, if I'm guilty of anything, it's operating a funeral home without a license. 61 00:02:51,070 --> 00:02:52,774 And you want a career in law enforcement? 62 00:02:52,814 --> 00:02:54,792 These people are so incompetent. 63 00:02:54,826 --> 00:02:56,665 Okay, Mom. 64 00:02:56,702 --> 00:02:58,302 They had no confession. 65 00:02:58,346 --> 00:03:01,227 I'm an embarrassment to the criminal-justice system 66 00:03:01,263 --> 00:03:03,138 because it's easier to kill me now 67 00:03:03,175 --> 00:03:06,124 than to admit that they screwed up 15 years ago. 68 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:08,903 Authorities have tried on numerous occasions 69 00:03:08,942 --> 00:03:12,326 to elicit a detailed confession from Gacy, 70 00:03:12,362 --> 00:03:16,717 but he has remained tight-lipped about the crimes ever since his conviction. 71 00:03:16,754 --> 00:03:19,761 With time running out for the death-row inmate, 72 00:03:19,806 --> 00:03:23,488 the truth may never be revealed. 73 00:03:23,528 --> 00:03:25,905 Antisocial Personality Disorder, 74 00:03:25,942 --> 00:03:27,977 or APD, 75 00:03:28,021 --> 00:03:32,915 is characterized by a lack of regard for the moral or legal standards 76 00:03:32,951 --> 00:03:35,156 in a given culture. 77 00:03:35,196 --> 00:03:38,878 There's also an inability to get along with others 78 00:03:38,919 --> 00:03:42,566 as well as to abide by societal rules. 79 00:03:42,608 --> 00:03:44,676 Now individuals with this disorder 80 00:03:44,719 --> 00:03:48,972 are often referred to as psychopaths or sociopaths, but in fact we know... 81 00:03:49,011 --> 00:03:50,989 Yes, Jason? 82 00:03:51,023 --> 00:03:53,903 Doesn't the DSM have a broader APD category 83 00:03:53,939 --> 00:03:57,484 that includes people who commit illegal, immoral or self-serving acts, 84 00:03:57,527 --> 00:04:01,575 but they're not necessarily psychopathic? 85 00:04:01,619 --> 00:04:04,499 What's the DSM? 86 00:04:04,536 --> 00:04:08,011 Oh, would you care to enlighten the class, Jason? 87 00:04:08,056 --> 00:04:13,074 Sure, it's the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders. 88 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,829 And although it has some problems with reliability 89 00:04:15,869 --> 00:04:17,505 and is considered culturally biased, 90 00:04:17,546 --> 00:04:21,262 it is the major resource for mental-health professionals. 91 00:04:21,302 --> 00:04:23,838 - Well, thank you, Professor Moss. - Mm-hmm. 92 00:04:23,883 --> 00:04:26,456 Well, that's not precisely correct, 93 00:04:26,499 --> 00:04:29,037 but I'd say it's close enough. 94 00:04:30,959 --> 00:04:33,668 Uh, okay look, we're going over, 95 00:04:33,708 --> 00:04:36,520 so why don't we stop there and we will pick it up again next week? 96 00:04:36,558 --> 00:04:38,228 Thank you. 97 00:04:40,783 --> 00:04:43,195 - I'll catch up with you, okay? - Okay. 98 00:04:44,270 --> 00:04:46,339 Professor Harris? 99 00:04:46,384 --> 00:04:48,991 Can I talk to you about the term paper? 100 00:04:49,032 --> 00:04:51,980 Term paper? That's not due till the end of the year. 101 00:04:52,015 --> 00:04:55,296 Yeah, I know. I just... I want to get a head start on it. 102 00:04:55,335 --> 00:04:57,244 Sure. What's your question? 103 00:04:57,280 --> 00:04:59,818 So I want to do my paper on John Wayne Gacy. 104 00:04:59,862 --> 00:05:02,777 Gacy? What's the angle? 105 00:05:02,812 --> 00:05:04,813 Um... 106 00:05:04,858 --> 00:05:08,174 Well, there's a thousand angles that could be explored... 107 00:05:08,211 --> 00:05:12,498 um, capital punishment from the perspective of a death-row inmate; 108 00:05:12,537 --> 00:05:15,646 does Gacy fit the typical FBI profile of a serial killer? 109 00:05:15,689 --> 00:05:18,296 And he's... he's scheduled to be executed in six months, 110 00:05:18,338 --> 00:05:20,316 so he might be more willing to talk to me. 111 00:05:20,350 --> 00:05:24,934 You know, Jason, I've read a hundred papers on serial killers 112 00:05:24,977 --> 00:05:29,196 and quite frankly, I think the topic's overexposed and trite. 113 00:05:29,236 --> 00:05:33,694 You're gonna have to demonstrate a really strong academic angle here. 114 00:05:35,674 --> 00:05:37,514 Okay? 115 00:05:39,396 --> 00:05:41,636 Okay. 116 00:05:41,675 --> 00:05:44,785 I'll work on it. I'll get back to you. 117 00:05:44,828 --> 00:05:49,184 And don't forget, this paper counts for half your final grade. 118 00:05:49,221 --> 00:05:51,563 Yeah. Yeah, I'm not worried. 119 00:06:29,892 --> 00:06:31,630 Hi, Mr. Gacy. 120 00:06:31,670 --> 00:06:33,270 So where's the big guy? 121 00:06:33,313 --> 00:06:35,519 He had to make a delivery but he should be back soon. 122 00:06:35,559 --> 00:06:37,731 What kind of damage is he looking to do now? 123 00:06:37,773 --> 00:06:41,522 I think he was talking about tearing down that back wall by the storage area. 124 00:06:41,561 --> 00:06:44,099 All right, I'll go take a look. How's it going, pal? 125 00:06:44,143 --> 00:06:45,309 Hey. 126 00:06:48,234 --> 00:06:50,841 Did you get your Christmas bonus? 127 00:06:50,883 --> 00:06:53,866 No, not yet. 128 00:06:53,900 --> 00:06:55,672 - You? - No, not yet. 129 00:06:55,711 --> 00:06:57,688 Well, it better come in soon. 130 00:06:57,723 --> 00:07:00,100 How much you make an hour here? 131 00:07:00,137 --> 00:07:01,268 $2.50. 132 00:07:01,311 --> 00:07:03,918 You know, I pay my guys $7.50. 133 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,904 Really? 134 00:07:05,939 --> 00:07:07,607 You interested? 135 00:07:37,021 --> 00:07:38,895 Oh shit. 136 00:07:57,306 --> 00:07:59,216 Hey. 137 00:07:59,252 --> 00:08:01,092 Where the fuck were you? 138 00:08:01,130 --> 00:08:03,703 I know, man, I'm sorry. I got held up. 139 00:08:07,903 --> 00:08:10,383 Look at me. Hey. 140 00:08:10,418 --> 00:08:12,156 What the fu... 141 00:08:12,195 --> 00:08:14,139 Alex, why does that guy keep fucking with you? 142 00:08:14,174 --> 00:08:17,992 Just drive, okay? I want to get out of here. 143 00:08:18,029 --> 00:08:20,373 - Later. - Bye, Alex. 144 00:08:23,697 --> 00:08:25,731 I'm sorry I was late. 145 00:08:52,031 --> 00:08:53,504 You guys are late. 146 00:08:53,539 --> 00:08:55,813 I know, Mom. It's my fault. 147 00:08:55,852 --> 00:08:59,706 Alex, take your hat off at the table. It's not polite. 148 00:08:59,742 --> 00:09:01,777 - So how was school, boys? - It was good. 149 00:09:01,821 --> 00:09:03,192 Good. 150 00:09:03,228 --> 00:09:04,932 Did you hear me? 151 00:09:04,972 --> 00:09:07,476 Alex, do what your mother says. 152 00:09:11,243 --> 00:09:13,346 What the hell happened to your eye? 153 00:09:13,388 --> 00:09:15,698 - Nothing. - What do you mean, nothing? 154 00:09:15,736 --> 00:09:18,411 It doesn't look like nothing to me. Jason, what happened? 155 00:09:18,453 --> 00:09:20,865 It's not a big deal, Mom, okay? 156 00:09:20,900 --> 00:09:23,379 He just got into it with some kid at school. 157 00:09:23,415 --> 00:09:26,993 You should see the other kid. Alex really held his own in there. 158 00:09:27,037 --> 00:09:30,250 - I don't support violence in this house. - It wasn't in this house. 159 00:09:30,289 --> 00:09:32,895 Don't get smart with me. 160 00:09:32,937 --> 00:09:36,047 Pass the salad. 161 00:09:36,090 --> 00:09:39,166 - So guess what? - What's that, Jason? 162 00:09:39,209 --> 00:09:42,889 I'm gonna write a letter to John Wayne Gacy. 163 00:09:42,929 --> 00:09:45,307 And who is John Wayne Gacy? 164 00:09:45,345 --> 00:09:47,482 He's a psychotic murderer, Frank. 165 00:09:47,524 --> 00:09:49,766 You don't know who John Gacy is? 166 00:09:49,804 --> 00:09:54,594 So why are you contacting this psychotic murderer, Jason? 167 00:09:54,632 --> 00:09:57,272 For my criminology class. 168 00:09:57,315 --> 00:09:59,818 Cool. Does he write his letters in blood? 169 00:09:59,862 --> 00:10:02,468 Frank, are you hearing any of this? 170 00:10:02,511 --> 00:10:04,717 Come on, Valerie, what's the point? 171 00:10:04,758 --> 00:10:07,433 Let him write the letter. Probably won't even write back. 172 00:10:07,475 --> 00:10:09,716 - I don't care. The answer is no. - Valerie... 173 00:10:09,755 --> 00:10:11,698 - No, I'm telling you... - Dear Mr. Gacy, 174 00:10:11,732 --> 00:10:15,185 my name is Jason Moss and I'm an 18-year-old college student. 175 00:10:15,219 --> 00:10:19,039 I'm writing because I thought you might get bored or lonely where you are 176 00:10:19,077 --> 00:10:22,026 and might want someone to correspond with. 177 00:10:22,060 --> 00:10:25,044 I've been seeing you on TV a lot lately 178 00:10:25,078 --> 00:10:27,422 and I wanted to talk to you directly 179 00:10:27,459 --> 00:10:31,208 as I'm sure most of what the media says about you is a lie. 180 00:10:32,891 --> 00:10:35,372 At the moment I live at home with my family. 181 00:10:35,406 --> 00:10:38,824 And if they found out I was writing to you, they'd probably kill me. 182 00:10:38,860 --> 00:10:42,404 But my mom is pretty much against everything I do anyways, 183 00:10:42,447 --> 00:10:44,757 so what's the difference? 184 00:10:43,890 --> 00:10:47,504 I have to admit that I'm really not much of a student. 185 00:10:47,545 --> 00:10:51,591 I barely graduated from high school, so it's a miracle I even got into college. 186 00:10:51,635 --> 00:10:55,019 But I'm just gonna go for a year or so to appease my parents 187 00:10:55,055 --> 00:10:57,260 and then when I can get enough money together 188 00:10:57,302 --> 00:10:59,107 I'll move out. 189 00:10:59,145 --> 00:11:01,992 I can't wait. 190 00:11:02,028 --> 00:11:06,110 At this point, I don't really know what else to say until you write me back. 191 00:11:06,153 --> 00:11:09,227 If you should need anything like paper or supplies, just let me know. 192 00:11:09,271 --> 00:11:11,214 I'd be happy to help. 193 00:11:11,250 --> 00:11:13,559 I'm sure there are many others who write you, 194 00:11:13,597 --> 00:11:16,044 but I hope you take the time to write me back. 195 00:11:16,079 --> 00:11:18,616 You'll see that I'm a pretty nice guy. 196 00:11:18,660 --> 00:11:21,472 I look forward to hearing from you soon. 197 00:11:21,510 --> 00:11:24,391 Your friend, Jason Moss. 198 00:11:25,803 --> 00:11:29,815 Look, Sam, I need to know how long this habeas corpus review is gonna be. 199 00:11:30,899 --> 00:11:33,403 I mean on average... how long does it take? 200 00:11:35,325 --> 00:11:37,736 I know that, Sam. I'm just trying to figure out 201 00:11:37,773 --> 00:11:40,414 how much time it's gonna buy me, you know? 202 00:11:40,455 --> 00:11:43,337 I know you're working hard. 203 00:11:43,373 --> 00:11:45,510 I know that. 204 00:11:45,553 --> 00:11:47,495 Listen to me, buddy, 205 00:11:47,531 --> 00:11:51,956 you've got to know that I'm counting on you here, pal. 206 00:11:51,991 --> 00:11:55,032 All right, all right. 207 00:11:55,075 --> 00:11:57,852 All right, keep me posted. If you hear anything, get back to me. 208 00:12:00,138 --> 00:12:02,276 Good news? 209 00:12:03,961 --> 00:12:06,568 He's an attorney; there's never any good news. 210 00:12:06,609 --> 00:12:09,284 But no worries. 211 00:12:09,325 --> 00:12:11,566 You know me, Stan. 212 00:12:11,605 --> 00:12:14,555 I got friends in high places pulling strings for me. 213 00:12:14,590 --> 00:12:16,430 I'm sure it'll all work out then. 214 00:12:16,467 --> 00:12:18,570 Yeah, it's no problem, buddy. 215 00:13:27,251 --> 00:13:29,389 ...and his motive unclear. 216 00:13:29,431 --> 00:13:31,500 In the summer of 1985, 217 00:13:31,543 --> 00:13:35,624 Southern California was held hostage by a rabid creature of the night, 218 00:13:35,667 --> 00:13:38,708 a phantom killer who cloaked himself in darkness 219 00:13:38,753 --> 00:13:40,525 and soon became known as... 220 00:13:58,704 --> 00:14:00,739 What the fuck? 221 00:14:06,582 --> 00:14:08,652 Look at this. 222 00:14:13,121 --> 00:14:15,694 - What is this? - It's a questionnaire. 223 00:14:15,737 --> 00:14:17,807 Where'd you get it? 224 00:14:17,850 --> 00:14:20,353 It's from John Wayne Gacy. 225 00:14:21,874 --> 00:14:24,823 The serial killer? 226 00:14:25,897 --> 00:14:27,201 Yeah. 227 00:14:27,238 --> 00:14:29,444 I told you, I'm writing him for my criminology paper. 228 00:14:31,665 --> 00:14:33,264 No you didn't. 229 00:14:33,307 --> 00:14:35,949 I didn't? Really? 230 00:14:35,990 --> 00:14:38,802 Look, you know, I probably didn't think it was a big deal 231 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,949 because I never thought he'd write me back, but... 232 00:14:45,513 --> 00:14:49,663 "What's your relationship like with your parents? 233 00:14:49,705 --> 00:14:52,207 Do you have a girlfriend? 234 00:14:53,392 --> 00:14:57,142 How often do you masturbate?" That's disgusting. 235 00:14:57,182 --> 00:14:59,286 Why are you writing to this guy? 236 00:15:00,737 --> 00:15:03,719 I just told you... it's for my paper. 237 00:15:03,753 --> 00:15:06,600 You couldn't think of anything else to do your paper on? 238 00:15:06,637 --> 00:15:09,414 No, this is what's intriguing to me. 239 00:15:12,772 --> 00:15:15,448 You're not really gonna tell him about yourself, right? 240 00:15:20,451 --> 00:15:22,520 No no. 241 00:15:22,563 --> 00:15:26,152 That wouldn't be the best approach, would it? 242 00:15:29,204 --> 00:15:32,621 So I see Victor Leon Carsenos is back on your most-wanted list. 243 00:15:32,657 --> 00:15:36,041 Didn't you guys arrest him in '92 for felonious homicide? 244 00:15:36,077 --> 00:15:38,925 Yep, but he got off on a technicality. 245 00:15:38,962 --> 00:15:41,534 So what's the urgency, Mr. Ross? 246 00:15:41,576 --> 00:15:46,161 Uh, it's... it's this, sir. 247 00:15:46,204 --> 00:15:47,804 And it's "Moss." 248 00:15:52,105 --> 00:15:55,523 - A questionnaire? - From John Wayne Gacy. 249 00:15:55,559 --> 00:15:58,005 Okay. 250 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,961 I wrote him for my criminology term paper and he sent me that back, 251 00:16:01,996 --> 00:16:05,974 so I was hoping the FBI would be able to give me some more information on him. 252 00:16:06,019 --> 00:16:09,700 Well, unfortunately you're barking up the wrong tree, son. 253 00:16:09,741 --> 00:16:12,623 We don't have any information here on John Gacy. 254 00:16:13,866 --> 00:16:16,175 If we did have anything, it'd probably be at the Chicago bureau. 255 00:16:16,214 --> 00:16:20,294 Really? 'Cause, well, he lived here in '62. 256 00:16:20,337 --> 00:16:24,122 He worked part time as a janitor at a funeral parlor. 257 00:16:24,161 --> 00:16:27,705 And then shortly after that, he was convicted of child molestation 258 00:16:27,749 --> 00:16:30,961 for which he served only 18 months of a 10-year sentence. 259 00:16:31,001 --> 00:16:32,807 Mmm. 260 00:16:32,845 --> 00:16:36,892 Well, you know so much about him, 261 00:16:36,937 --> 00:16:38,810 what do you need me for? 262 00:16:38,846 --> 00:16:43,134 Well, I was hoping you could tell me something I didn't already know. 263 00:16:45,755 --> 00:16:48,395 Look, son, like I told you before, 264 00:16:48,436 --> 00:16:51,615 we don't have anything here on John Gacy. 265 00:16:51,656 --> 00:16:54,332 And the only thing I heard about him was about some kid 266 00:16:54,372 --> 00:16:57,115 that claimed he had an encounter with Gacy. 267 00:16:57,155 --> 00:16:59,224 But that was all over the news when he moved here, 268 00:16:59,268 --> 00:17:02,275 so I'm sure you already know about that. 269 00:17:02,319 --> 00:17:03,793 An encounter? 270 00:17:03,829 --> 00:17:06,503 Like what do you mean... he survived an attack? 271 00:17:06,543 --> 00:17:08,314 Who was it? 272 00:17:08,353 --> 00:17:10,594 I don't remember the kid's name. 273 00:17:14,390 --> 00:17:18,470 Have you guys ever tried writing him from a potential victim's perspective? 274 00:17:20,156 --> 00:17:22,100 All psychological profiling's done out of Quantico, 275 00:17:22,135 --> 00:17:24,113 so you'd have to talk to them. 276 00:17:24,147 --> 00:17:26,627 Yeah? Okay, do you have someone I can contact there? 277 00:17:29,881 --> 00:17:33,963 Listen, kid, you're what... 18? 278 00:17:34,006 --> 00:17:37,961 Go get laid. Find a party, have fun. 279 00:17:37,995 --> 00:17:40,270 Don't get caught up in all this shit 280 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:42,790 'cause it's only gonna lead to trouble. 281 00:17:42,824 --> 00:17:47,374 Write your term paper about legalizing marijuana 282 00:17:47,417 --> 00:17:50,527 and go be a teenager, for Christ's sake. 283 00:17:50,570 --> 00:17:53,714 Okay. Well, thank you. 284 00:17:55,163 --> 00:17:58,616 So tell me about your relationship with your father. 285 00:17:58,651 --> 00:18:00,960 I could never get along with my dad. 286 00:18:00,998 --> 00:18:03,102 I mean, he was always just too overbearing. 287 00:18:03,144 --> 00:18:05,144 I was always dumb and stupid. 288 00:18:05,189 --> 00:18:08,504 I would never amount to anything. So I said to hell with it. 289 00:18:08,541 --> 00:18:12,966 I remember one time I was rasslin' around with some older kids 290 00:18:13,002 --> 00:18:14,475 and I passed out. 291 00:18:14,510 --> 00:18:17,620 So I was always more or less a sickly kid, you know. 292 00:18:17,662 --> 00:18:21,779 And I guess that embarrassed him. 293 00:18:21,820 --> 00:18:25,203 Okay, so you continue to deny the murder of those 33 young boys, 294 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,219 but how do you explain the bodies found beneath your house? 295 00:18:29,264 --> 00:18:33,311 The state wants you to believe this fantasy theory, right, 296 00:18:33,356 --> 00:18:35,561 that the motive was sex 297 00:18:35,601 --> 00:18:39,351 and that they were all killed so that they couldn't tell anyone what they saw. 298 00:18:39,391 --> 00:18:42,169 That's ridiculous. It doesn't hold water. 299 00:18:42,207 --> 00:18:43,978 The facts don't match the fantasy. 300 00:18:44,017 --> 00:18:47,367 Which raises the question who John Gacy really is... 301 00:18:47,404 --> 00:18:49,439 the 34th victim. 302 00:18:49,484 --> 00:18:51,896 Are you a homosexual? 303 00:18:51,932 --> 00:18:55,784 I would definitely not be homosexual. 304 00:18:55,820 --> 00:18:58,233 Now I have nothing against the things that they do 305 00:18:58,269 --> 00:19:01,744 and I openly admit that I've engaged in sex with males. 306 00:19:01,790 --> 00:19:03,825 But I would be bisexual. 307 00:19:03,868 --> 00:19:06,943 I mean the idea that I'm some crazed homosexual killer 308 00:19:06,986 --> 00:19:08,585 strolling around the streets 309 00:19:08,629 --> 00:19:11,738 stalking and murdering young altar boys is ludicrous. 310 00:19:11,782 --> 00:19:13,782 Hell, if you could have seen my schedule, 311 00:19:13,826 --> 00:19:17,176 you'd know damn well I was never out there. 312 00:19:19,393 --> 00:19:23,405 I would definitely not be homosexual. 313 00:19:23,449 --> 00:19:25,655 Now I have nothing against the things that they do 314 00:19:25,696 --> 00:19:28,944 and I openly admit that I've engaged in sex with males. 315 00:19:28,983 --> 00:19:31,395 But I would be bisexual. 316 00:19:41,657 --> 00:19:43,463 What are you doing? 317 00:19:43,502 --> 00:19:45,948 What does it look like? 318 00:19:45,983 --> 00:19:47,789 Since when does Jason lift weights? 319 00:19:47,827 --> 00:19:50,937 Since now, okay? 320 00:19:50,979 --> 00:19:53,585 Hey hey, go get your camera. 321 00:19:55,002 --> 00:19:57,038 I need you to take some pictures for me. 322 00:19:57,082 --> 00:19:58,454 Of what? 323 00:19:58,491 --> 00:20:00,663 Come on, let's go. 324 00:20:02,346 --> 00:20:04,416 - This is ridiculous. - Would you just hurry up, please, 325 00:20:04,459 --> 00:20:06,631 before Mom comes home? 326 00:20:09,220 --> 00:20:10,854 Why are you trying to look sexy? 327 00:20:10,895 --> 00:20:13,341 Because, buddy, Gacy's a homo 328 00:20:13,377 --> 00:20:16,955 so I need to look like a homo, do you get that? 329 00:20:16,999 --> 00:20:19,102 - Come on. - This is so disgusting. 330 00:20:19,144 --> 00:20:22,859 Just take the picture. 331 00:20:22,900 --> 00:20:25,507 Oh, wait wait wait. How are my abs? Are they good? 332 00:20:25,549 --> 00:20:27,618 I'm not gonna look at your abs. 333 00:20:27,662 --> 00:20:29,663 Alex, could you just help me out, please? 334 00:20:29,707 --> 00:20:31,776 I need to make sure these come out right, okay? 335 00:20:31,819 --> 00:20:34,529 - Your abs look fabulous. - Thank you. 336 00:20:38,056 --> 00:20:40,593 Okay, one more, one more. 337 00:20:44,427 --> 00:20:46,302 How'd that look? 338 00:20:46,339 --> 00:20:48,649 Gay. 339 00:20:48,686 --> 00:20:50,994 Perfect. 340 00:21:01,696 --> 00:21:05,206 Open D-32. 341 00:21:06,391 --> 00:21:09,099 Hey, Picasso, your mail's here. 342 00:21:09,139 --> 00:21:11,848 How's it going, buddy? 343 00:21:11,888 --> 00:21:13,889 Another clown, huh? 344 00:21:13,934 --> 00:21:16,507 Well, that's what the people want, Stan, 345 00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:18,115 that's what they get. 346 00:21:18,159 --> 00:21:21,143 How else could I be able to afford this lavish lifestyle in here? 347 00:21:21,177 --> 00:21:23,989 Speaking of lavish lifestyle, your Cubans came in. 348 00:21:24,027 --> 00:21:25,765 Oh yeah? Great. 349 00:21:30,263 --> 00:21:32,744 Well, back to the grind, huh? 350 00:21:32,779 --> 00:21:34,780 Where are you off to in such a hurry? 351 00:21:34,824 --> 00:21:38,173 I thought maybe we'd kick back and smoke a couple of these babies. 352 00:21:38,210 --> 00:21:40,920 You know the rules. 353 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,533 Hey, Stan? 354 00:21:44,750 --> 00:21:46,888 Rules are meant to be broken. 355 00:21:46,929 --> 00:21:49,775 So why are you here? 356 00:21:49,812 --> 00:21:52,728 - Best to your family, pal. - Close D-32. 357 00:22:27,433 --> 00:22:30,383 My relationship with my parents is not the greatest. 358 00:22:30,418 --> 00:22:33,894 My mom is always on my ass trying to control my life. 359 00:22:33,939 --> 00:22:37,013 My dad's normally more passive. However, he has a temper 360 00:22:37,057 --> 00:22:40,979 and loses it once in a while and can beat my ass pretty good. 361 00:22:41,014 --> 00:22:44,524 Nobody knows I'm thinking about being a nude dancer to earn extra money, 362 00:22:44,569 --> 00:22:46,478 which is a bit tight for me right now. 363 00:22:46,513 --> 00:22:49,188 I don't even know why I'm telling you all this. 364 00:22:49,229 --> 00:22:52,305 I guess I just feel like I can open up to you. 365 00:22:52,348 --> 00:22:55,560 Well, I really want us to become friends. 366 00:22:55,599 --> 00:22:58,481 So I look forward to hearing back from you soon. 367 00:22:58,517 --> 00:23:01,730 Yours, Jason. 368 00:23:01,770 --> 00:23:04,012 One of the things you should know about me 369 00:23:04,051 --> 00:23:06,828 is that I'm open-minded, outspoken, 370 00:23:06,867 --> 00:23:09,874 not very tactful, nonjudgmental, 371 00:23:09,918 --> 00:23:12,124 liberal, and I say what I mean. 372 00:23:12,165 --> 00:23:15,616 The only thing I ask is don't assume anything of me. 373 00:23:15,651 --> 00:23:18,292 If you're not sure, then ask. 374 00:23:18,334 --> 00:23:21,146 Nothing offends me and nothing is personal. 375 00:23:21,184 --> 00:23:23,791 No subject is off limits as long as you're willing 376 00:23:23,833 --> 00:23:26,508 to be just as open and honest as me. 377 00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:30,230 I want you to feel free to say what is on your mind, good or bad. 378 00:23:30,270 --> 00:23:34,454 Even if it's 20 pages long, I want you to tell me everything about you. 379 00:23:34,496 --> 00:23:36,565 Don't worry about what I might think. 380 00:23:36,608 --> 00:23:40,255 I am truly fascinated to know about the ideas, thoughts and emotions 381 00:23:40,297 --> 00:23:42,938 that enter your mind. 382 00:23:42,979 --> 00:23:44,716 I am a very liberal person. 383 00:23:44,756 --> 00:23:47,534 And since you said you will not share my letters with anyone, 384 00:23:47,573 --> 00:23:51,690 I feel I can confide in you, as I hope you can also do with me. 385 00:23:51,731 --> 00:23:54,714 As far as sex goes, I haven't done a lot. 386 00:23:54,748 --> 00:23:56,486 I don't have a girlfriend or anything, 387 00:23:56,526 --> 00:23:59,567 but I have an open mind to try many different things. 388 00:23:59,611 --> 00:24:03,154 You want my opinion on something, that's what you'll get. 389 00:24:03,199 --> 00:24:06,446 I want to know all your innermost feelings and thoughts. 390 00:24:06,484 --> 00:24:08,290 What do you fantasize about? 391 00:24:08,329 --> 00:24:11,977 You say that you're thinking about hustling for money, I say go for it. 392 00:24:12,018 --> 00:24:15,331 But you have to promise you'll tell me all about it. Don't hold back. 393 00:24:15,370 --> 00:24:17,713 I want details... everything. 394 00:24:17,751 --> 00:24:20,998 You and I are gonna be real close, buddy. 395 00:24:25,294 --> 00:24:27,005 Professor Harris? 396 00:24:27,005 --> 00:24:27,667 Professor Harris? 397 00:24:27,710 --> 00:24:29,081 Yes, Mr. Moss? 398 00:24:29,118 --> 00:24:32,902 Hi. I wanted to share my new angle with you. 399 00:24:32,940 --> 00:24:36,119 - What's that? - Well, read it. 400 00:24:37,769 --> 00:24:39,575 A letter from Gacy? 401 00:24:39,613 --> 00:24:42,116 - You got him to write to you? - Yeah. 402 00:24:47,694 --> 00:24:51,238 Okay. What are you gonna do with it? 403 00:24:51,281 --> 00:24:56,038 I'm gonna get information out of him that no one else has been able to... 404 00:24:56,077 --> 00:24:59,758 not the police, not the FBI, not even his own wife. 405 00:25:01,006 --> 00:25:05,327 I'm gonna get inside this guy's head and figure out what makes him tick. 406 00:25:05,365 --> 00:25:07,239 Well, that's quite a lofty goal, Jason, 407 00:25:07,276 --> 00:25:10,226 but I still don't know what your paper's about. 408 00:25:10,261 --> 00:25:13,244 Well, my paper is about 409 00:25:13,278 --> 00:25:16,490 journeying into the mind of a serial killer. 410 00:25:16,530 --> 00:25:19,639 Is that a strong enough angle for you? 411 00:25:23,873 --> 00:25:27,121 Okay, Jason, you're going to do what you want anyway, 412 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,663 so go ahead. 413 00:25:29,708 --> 00:25:32,783 But don't let your ego get in the way of your instincts. 414 00:25:32,826 --> 00:25:35,810 This guy's talent is fooling people into trusting him. 415 00:25:35,844 --> 00:25:39,663 Yeah, but that's also his weakness. 416 00:25:39,700 --> 00:25:41,838 He's so convinced he always has the upper hand, 417 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,059 he wouldn't even for an instant think that one of his potential victims 418 00:25:45,099 --> 00:25:47,271 could be way ahead of him. 419 00:25:47,312 --> 00:25:49,483 I'm working on a strategy. 420 00:25:49,524 --> 00:25:51,696 I even found a guy who survived an attack. 421 00:25:51,737 --> 00:25:53,075 You give me a couple of weeks 422 00:25:53,112 --> 00:25:55,250 and I'll have him eating out of the palm of my hand. 423 00:26:47,868 --> 00:26:50,680 - Can I help you? - Yeah, Mr. Phillips? 424 00:26:50,718 --> 00:26:54,537 Hi, I'm Jason Moss. I'm a student at the university. 425 00:26:54,575 --> 00:26:57,582 - I'm doing a paper about John Gacy... - Not interested. 426 00:26:57,626 --> 00:27:00,004 Whoa whoa, hey hey! Just hear me out. 427 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,018 Get the fuck out of here. 428 00:27:07,618 --> 00:27:11,071 I'll just take up five minutes of your time, I promise. 429 00:27:13,017 --> 00:27:15,121 Come on, you know him a lot better than I do. 430 00:27:15,164 --> 00:27:17,232 I just want to figure out how he operates. 431 00:27:17,275 --> 00:27:19,916 What part of "Get the fuck out of here" don't you get? 432 00:27:20,930 --> 00:27:24,039 Look, I wrote him, okay? And he wrote me back. 433 00:27:24,081 --> 00:27:27,590 Look. He's very interested in me. 434 00:27:27,635 --> 00:27:29,613 Yeah, of course he's interested. 435 00:27:29,647 --> 00:27:31,648 Listen listen, I didn't mean to make you feel uncomfortable. 436 00:27:31,693 --> 00:27:33,499 I just... you know, I thought you could help me figure out 437 00:27:33,538 --> 00:27:35,207 who I'm really dealing with here. 438 00:27:37,192 --> 00:27:39,398 I hope you never find out. 439 00:27:57,781 --> 00:27:59,587 Hello? 440 00:27:59,625 --> 00:28:01,694 I have a collect call from inmate John Gacy 441 00:28:01,737 --> 00:28:04,880 from the Menard Correctional Center. Will you accept the charges? 442 00:28:06,834 --> 00:28:10,344 Yes yes. Uh, yes, Operator, I accept. 443 00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:12,767 Go ahead, sir. 444 00:28:12,803 --> 00:28:14,803 What's up, buddy? 445 00:28:15,921 --> 00:28:17,658 Hey. 446 00:28:19,743 --> 00:28:21,080 Wait. 447 00:28:21,118 --> 00:28:23,998 How did you get my number? It's not listed. 448 00:28:24,034 --> 00:28:28,047 I told you I got friends in high places. 449 00:28:28,092 --> 00:28:30,904 What's the matter? You don't like surprises, Jason? 450 00:28:30,942 --> 00:28:33,685 No. 451 00:28:33,725 --> 00:28:35,463 Uh... 452 00:28:35,502 --> 00:28:37,376 So what are you doing right now? 453 00:28:37,413 --> 00:28:40,329 I'm just sitting around watching TV. 454 00:28:41,907 --> 00:28:44,352 Well, I was... I was sleeping. 455 00:28:44,387 --> 00:28:46,994 Oh, the time difference, that's right. 456 00:28:47,037 --> 00:28:51,393 Sorry about that. I don't really sleep too much. 457 00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:54,573 No no, no problem. 458 00:28:54,615 --> 00:28:57,965 So what were you doing? Out late banging your girlfriend? 459 00:28:58,002 --> 00:29:00,105 Uh, no. 460 00:29:00,148 --> 00:29:02,458 I told you, John, I don't have a girlfriend. 461 00:29:02,495 --> 00:29:06,176 That's right. That's right. 462 00:29:14,197 --> 00:29:16,507 I can't believe I'm actually talking to you right now. 463 00:29:16,545 --> 00:29:19,025 I know this must be awkward for you, 464 00:29:19,060 --> 00:29:22,008 but just try to relax, you know? 465 00:29:22,042 --> 00:29:25,621 Tell me about your day. How's school? 466 00:29:25,664 --> 00:29:28,774 You still flunking out? Don't feel bad. 467 00:29:28,816 --> 00:29:31,627 I was never much of a student myself. 468 00:29:31,666 --> 00:29:34,078 My teachers were all assholes. 469 00:29:41,625 --> 00:29:44,906 You asked about a sense of power. 470 00:29:44,945 --> 00:29:48,695 Now I think everybody feels that when having sex. 471 00:29:50,042 --> 00:29:53,826 The power to get somebody off with your tongue is wild. 472 00:29:55,339 --> 00:29:58,151 I could even see doing that to you and having fun. 473 00:30:04,393 --> 00:30:07,640 Holy shit, John, it's almost 7:00. 474 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,199 Shit, my parents are gonna kill me when they get this phone bill. 475 00:30:11,233 --> 00:30:14,915 Don't worry about that, buddy. I'll send you money for the calls. 476 00:30:14,956 --> 00:30:17,059 Wow, that'd be great. Thank you. 477 00:30:17,102 --> 00:30:19,777 I've got your back, bud. Hmm? 478 00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:22,628 I know money's tight for you now. 479 00:30:22,666 --> 00:30:25,079 Yeah, it is. 480 00:30:25,115 --> 00:30:28,934 You should think about going out hustling like we were talking about. 481 00:30:28,971 --> 00:30:31,954 A pretty boy like you would make a lot of money. 482 00:30:31,988 --> 00:30:33,726 Yeah, probably. 483 00:30:33,765 --> 00:30:36,543 Well, do it. Talk is cheap, man. 484 00:30:36,582 --> 00:30:38,788 Why don't you go out tonight? 485 00:30:38,830 --> 00:30:42,682 Okay. Okay, I will. 486 00:30:42,718 --> 00:30:45,565 - Yeah? - That's a good idea. 487 00:30:45,603 --> 00:30:49,752 I'll give you a call tomorrow at 4:00. You can tell me all about it. 488 00:30:51,134 --> 00:30:53,707 - And Jason? - Yeah? 489 00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:57,672 I want to hear every last detail. 490 00:30:57,707 --> 00:30:59,878 Okay. 491 00:31:02,468 --> 00:31:04,778 Bye, John. 492 00:31:13,937 --> 00:31:15,103 Jason, 493 00:31:15,144 --> 00:31:19,464 you are a fucking genius. 494 00:31:32,612 --> 00:31:36,031 If you're hustling on the street, location is crucial. 495 00:31:36,067 --> 00:31:39,050 Don't pick an area that's too busy. And watch out for the cops, 496 00:31:39,084 --> 00:31:40,890 those fuckers. 497 00:31:40,928 --> 00:31:42,334 Wear something nice, 498 00:31:42,370 --> 00:31:46,326 like a pair of cut-off shorts to show off your sweet ass. 499 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,401 And you want to walk in a way to attract attention. 500 00:31:49,445 --> 00:31:52,486 Be sexy. Try working your hips. 501 00:31:52,530 --> 00:31:55,537 And when you approach buyers, remember to be flexible. 502 00:31:55,582 --> 00:31:58,428 They've got the money so they're in control. 503 00:31:58,465 --> 00:32:02,215 And they're gonna want to do it all... fuck you in the ass, the mouth; 504 00:32:02,254 --> 00:32:04,564 want you to fuck and suck them... all of it. 505 00:32:04,602 --> 00:32:08,718 You're there to provide a service. It's nothing personal. 506 00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:11,137 But make sure you get paid upfront. 507 00:32:11,174 --> 00:32:13,654 There's a lot of fucked-up people out there in the world 508 00:32:13,689 --> 00:32:15,860 that are gonna want to take advantage of you, 509 00:32:15,902 --> 00:32:19,182 so always watch your back. 510 00:32:26,899 --> 00:32:29,071 Excuse me? 511 00:32:30,286 --> 00:32:32,961 Well, look what the cat dragged in. 512 00:32:33,001 --> 00:32:34,739 Meow. 513 00:32:36,723 --> 00:32:39,227 Um, I was just wondering if l... 514 00:32:39,272 --> 00:32:42,153 Oh, and he's shy too. 515 00:32:42,190 --> 00:32:45,037 What's your name, kitty cat? 516 00:32:45,072 --> 00:32:48,113 It's Ja... Jack. 517 00:32:48,157 --> 00:32:50,799 Cute. 518 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,252 So? 519 00:32:59,190 --> 00:33:01,064 So how do you want it? 520 00:33:01,101 --> 00:33:05,056 No, actually, I was wondering if I could pay you 521 00:33:05,090 --> 00:33:07,434 just to talk to me. 522 00:33:07,471 --> 00:33:09,381 No, see, I'm a student. I'm trying to write a paper... 523 00:33:09,417 --> 00:33:11,086 - Oh, hell no. - Wait wait wait, hey hey. 524 00:33:11,127 --> 00:33:12,693 - Wait wait. - You a pig? 525 00:33:12,737 --> 00:33:16,315 No no, I'm not. I just want to ask you some questions. 526 00:33:16,357 --> 00:33:18,667 Okay? I have money. I can pay you. 527 00:33:18,705 --> 00:33:20,648 Look. 528 00:33:31,849 --> 00:33:34,991 Come on, "Ja... Jack." 529 00:33:35,034 --> 00:33:37,812 I know the perfect place. 530 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,047 So is this... is this where you take most of your customers? 531 00:34:30,729 --> 00:34:33,941 Hey, this is my special friend. 532 00:34:33,980 --> 00:34:36,186 Get him a drink. 533 00:34:39,011 --> 00:34:41,994 So tell... tell me about your approach. 534 00:34:42,028 --> 00:34:44,440 Like what kind of language do you use? 535 00:34:45,650 --> 00:34:50,612 You know, the terms you use for describing your various services. 536 00:35:00,906 --> 00:35:02,747 Drink up. 537 00:35:08,552 --> 00:35:09,752 Ahem. 538 00:35:09,793 --> 00:35:12,365 Like what do guys usually ask for? 539 00:35:14,990 --> 00:35:18,912 Most guys just want a blow job or they just want to be the top man. 540 00:35:18,947 --> 00:35:21,152 Sorry, what? "The top man"? 541 00:35:21,193 --> 00:35:24,543 You really don't get out much, do you, kid? 542 00:35:24,580 --> 00:35:29,439 That's where they get to do me from behind. 543 00:35:29,475 --> 00:35:31,509 That costs the most. 544 00:35:31,553 --> 00:35:34,435 I get it all though... everything from guys paying to suck my dick 545 00:35:34,471 --> 00:35:36,974 to me fucking them up the ass. 546 00:35:41,781 --> 00:35:44,227 Anyone ever try to hurt you? 547 00:35:48,085 --> 00:35:51,731 I was sucking some guy off when he put a knife to my throat. 548 00:35:51,773 --> 00:35:56,392 I tried to finish him off and get out of there, but he fucking cut me anyway. 549 00:35:59,183 --> 00:36:01,321 Was he trying to kill you? 550 00:36:01,363 --> 00:36:04,942 This is fucking boring me, all right? 551 00:36:04,984 --> 00:36:09,202 Finish your drink. I want you to meet a friend of mine. 552 00:36:33,418 --> 00:36:35,991 I want you to meet a friend of mine. 553 00:36:36,034 --> 00:36:40,458 This is my special friend. Trust me. Go ahead. 554 00:36:40,493 --> 00:36:42,597 Trust me. 555 00:37:16,271 --> 00:37:18,111 Jason. 556 00:37:27,839 --> 00:37:29,611 Oh God. 557 00:37:59,593 --> 00:38:01,467 Hey. 558 00:38:01,505 --> 00:38:04,042 You okay? 559 00:38:04,087 --> 00:38:07,561 You didn't show up at class. You haven't missed class since third grade. 560 00:38:07,606 --> 00:38:10,350 Yeah, I was just feeling a little tired. 561 00:38:16,224 --> 00:38:18,431 Hey, come here. 562 00:38:21,657 --> 00:38:24,068 Give me your hand. 563 00:38:29,838 --> 00:38:32,079 Come here, sit down. 564 00:38:43,651 --> 00:38:46,326 You know, Jason, 565 00:38:46,368 --> 00:38:48,975 I don't think this Gacy thing is healthy. 566 00:38:51,029 --> 00:38:53,234 You know... oh God. 567 00:38:53,275 --> 00:38:56,557 Listen, if you're here to lecture me, I'm just not in the mood for it. 568 00:38:56,595 --> 00:38:59,579 No, I don't want to lecture you. I'm concerned about you, Jason. 569 00:38:59,613 --> 00:39:02,596 You haven't been the same since you started writing to this guy. 570 00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:06,140 I just don't have the strength for this right now. Can we do it later? 571 00:39:06,185 --> 00:39:08,025 - No, you keep putting me off. - Yeah. 572 00:39:08,063 --> 00:39:10,098 I want to know what's going on with you. This isn't fair. 573 00:39:10,142 --> 00:39:13,926 I just... I'm feeling... I'm feeling like I might throw up. 574 00:39:13,964 --> 00:39:16,102 I'm feeling really sick, so... 575 00:39:16,144 --> 00:39:20,763 maybe if... if you could just go? 576 00:39:20,805 --> 00:39:23,686 If you could just go, we'll talk about it later, okay? 577 00:39:23,722 --> 00:39:25,998 - Fine. - Thank you. 578 00:39:26,036 --> 00:39:28,573 - I hope you feel better. - Okay, thanks. 579 00:39:31,367 --> 00:39:33,904 - Hello? - You have a collect call 580 00:39:33,948 --> 00:39:37,161 from inmate John Gacy from the Menard Correctional Center. 581 00:39:37,201 --> 00:39:39,007 Will you accept the charges? 582 00:39:39,045 --> 00:39:42,051 - Yes yes, I accept the call. - Thank you. 583 00:39:42,096 --> 00:39:44,234 - Hey, pal. - Hey. 584 00:39:44,275 --> 00:39:46,013 So how'd it go last night? 585 00:39:46,053 --> 00:39:49,335 Uh, not good, John. 586 00:39:49,373 --> 00:39:51,578 What happened? 587 00:39:51,619 --> 00:39:54,294 Well, I picked this guy up on the street, right? 588 00:39:54,335 --> 00:39:57,078 And we went to the club, we had a drink. 589 00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:00,467 He offered me $200 to be his top man. 590 00:40:00,505 --> 00:40:02,540 But when I stood up, 591 00:40:02,584 --> 00:40:06,060 I realized that that fucker had drugged me. 592 00:40:06,105 --> 00:40:09,112 Oh shit. So what'd you do then? 593 00:40:09,156 --> 00:40:10,653 I ran. 594 00:40:11,972 --> 00:40:14,213 That fuck stole my wallet too. 595 00:40:14,253 --> 00:40:16,665 That pussy cock motherfucker. 596 00:40:16,701 --> 00:40:19,010 You want me to have him taken care of? 597 00:40:19,049 --> 00:40:20,683 What do you mean? 598 00:40:20,724 --> 00:40:23,536 I know a lot of people out there, Jason. They'll find this cocksucker 599 00:40:23,574 --> 00:40:25,610 and they'll cut his dick off. 600 00:40:25,654 --> 00:40:28,466 I'm very protective of the people that I'm close to. 601 00:40:28,504 --> 00:40:31,385 No no, John, don't worry about it. 602 00:40:31,421 --> 00:40:36,382 So why weren't you more careful about who you picked up? 603 00:40:36,417 --> 00:40:38,990 I told you you've got to learn to read people. 604 00:40:39,032 --> 00:40:42,381 You've got to figure them out before they figure you out. 605 00:40:42,418 --> 00:40:45,997 You've always got to be five steps ahead of everyone, 606 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,149 so that you're the one who maintains the control. 607 00:40:50,868 --> 00:40:55,190 I watch people very closely when they don't know I'm watching them. 608 00:40:55,227 --> 00:40:57,399 I try to figure out where they're going, 609 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,624 what they're thinking, what's really going on in their mind. 610 00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:07,797 By observing their behavior, you can learn what their weaknesses are, 611 00:41:07,835 --> 00:41:12,260 their vulnerabilities, their fears. 612 00:41:17,727 --> 00:41:22,654 And once you get into their minds, you've got the power. 613 00:41:22,690 --> 00:41:26,646 - To do what? - Anything you want. 614 00:41:59,405 --> 00:42:02,687 Well, John, thank God I've got you to talk to about these things. 615 00:42:02,725 --> 00:42:04,565 I'm learning from the best. 616 00:42:04,603 --> 00:42:06,637 We're a lot more alike than you think. 617 00:42:06,682 --> 00:42:11,439 I just taught you. Now it's your turn to teach me. 618 00:42:13,522 --> 00:42:17,271 What I want to learn all about is that little brother of yours. 619 00:42:17,311 --> 00:42:19,117 Hey! 620 00:42:19,155 --> 00:42:21,190 Hey. 621 00:42:21,235 --> 00:42:23,876 - What are you doing? - Nothing nothing. 622 00:42:23,917 --> 00:42:26,728 - What are you doing? - I just got out of class. 623 00:42:26,766 --> 00:42:29,544 Cool. 624 00:42:29,584 --> 00:42:33,163 Listen, I'm sorry about the other day. I was just... I was feeling out of it. 625 00:42:33,206 --> 00:42:35,983 I'm much better now though. 626 00:42:36,021 --> 00:42:38,021 Good. 627 00:42:40,514 --> 00:42:42,927 What are you doing? Do you want to go hang out? 628 00:42:42,962 --> 00:42:45,568 Yeah, I have to study, but maybe you could come with me 629 00:42:45,610 --> 00:42:47,416 and we could get a movie or something after? 630 00:42:47,454 --> 00:42:49,592 Yeah yeah, that sounds good. 631 00:42:49,634 --> 00:42:51,840 - Cool. - Okay, come on. 632 00:43:07,708 --> 00:43:11,630 Hey. So if opposite charges attract 633 00:43:11,665 --> 00:43:14,201 and two like charges repel each other, 634 00:43:14,246 --> 00:43:18,762 what is the nature of their mutual interactive force? 635 00:43:18,807 --> 00:43:22,156 What do I look like to you, an encyclopedia? 636 00:43:22,194 --> 00:43:25,474 - Hmm? - Jeez, somebody's cranky. 637 00:43:29,973 --> 00:43:31,744 Get out of here. 638 00:43:31,784 --> 00:43:35,762 Don't. Get out of here. 639 00:43:35,807 --> 00:43:37,647 We're in a library, okay? 640 00:43:44,826 --> 00:43:46,930 What the hell are these? 641 00:43:48,381 --> 00:43:51,228 Would you give me... give 'em! They're for my paper. 642 00:43:51,264 --> 00:43:53,435 - For your paper? - Yes, for my... for my paper. 643 00:43:53,477 --> 00:43:56,724 I posed like this when I first sent Gacy a letter so he'd write me back. 644 00:43:56,763 --> 00:43:58,901 I can't take any more of this Gacy shit, Jason. 645 00:43:58,943 --> 00:44:01,423 - It's gone too far. - Would you keep your voice down, please? 646 00:44:01,459 --> 00:44:03,435 - What is the big deal? - What is the big deal? 647 00:44:03,470 --> 00:44:06,717 My boyfriend is posing seductively for a serial killer in prison 648 00:44:06,756 --> 00:44:09,534 and you don't think it's a big deal? People already think you're gay, Jason. 649 00:44:09,572 --> 00:44:11,516 I don't give a shit what people think. 650 00:44:11,551 --> 00:44:13,551 - Are you gay? - Am I gay? 651 00:44:13,595 --> 00:44:17,780 You know what, Alyssa? You can go to hell. 652 00:44:17,822 --> 00:44:19,353 Fuck. 653 00:44:58,092 --> 00:45:00,800 - Hey. - Hey. 654 00:45:03,825 --> 00:45:06,501 You wanted to borrow this, right? 655 00:45:06,541 --> 00:45:10,187 - Oh yeah. Thanks. - Yeah, no problem. 656 00:45:17,406 --> 00:45:20,320 So l... 657 00:45:20,355 --> 00:45:22,893 Gacy was asking about you. 658 00:45:22,938 --> 00:45:24,379 - Gacy? - Yeah. 659 00:45:24,414 --> 00:45:26,254 - Why me? - I don't know. I don't know. 660 00:45:26,291 --> 00:45:28,795 I'm still trying to figure it out. 661 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,726 - But well, he wants to talk to you. - I'm not talking to a killer. 662 00:45:32,763 --> 00:45:35,243 I know. 663 00:45:35,278 --> 00:45:37,885 Look, I think I can get around it if he just gets a letter from you. 664 00:45:37,928 --> 00:45:40,670 I'm not writing him a letter either. 665 00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:42,618 I'll write the letter. 666 00:45:42,653 --> 00:45:46,301 Okay? All you have to do is just copy it in your handwriting. 667 00:45:46,343 --> 00:45:48,252 Why do I have to get dragged into your shit? 668 00:45:48,288 --> 00:45:51,500 Come on, Alex man. My plan is working here, okay? 669 00:45:51,539 --> 00:45:54,019 I'm getting him to open up and give me a lot of really good information. 670 00:45:54,054 --> 00:45:56,261 I don't want to lose him now. 671 00:45:57,878 --> 00:46:01,662 Alex, please, man, just... just this one time, okay? 672 00:46:07,266 --> 00:46:09,677 Come on. 673 00:46:09,713 --> 00:46:11,885 Please? 674 00:46:11,926 --> 00:46:15,779 Alex, just this once, okay? 675 00:46:15,817 --> 00:46:18,319 Fine. 676 00:46:18,364 --> 00:46:20,674 Yeah? 677 00:46:20,711 --> 00:46:22,849 Thank you. 678 00:46:31,307 --> 00:46:34,852 Dear John, I am so fucking pissed off right now. 679 00:46:34,896 --> 00:46:38,245 My father beat my ass again last night. I fucking hate him. 680 00:46:38,282 --> 00:46:41,701 I'm so sick of feeling this way. I can't trust anyone. 681 00:46:41,736 --> 00:46:43,770 I'm not sure I even want to live anymore. 682 00:46:43,814 --> 00:46:46,421 What would you do if someone beat your ass? 683 00:46:46,463 --> 00:46:50,316 I've thought many times about killing myself, 684 00:46:50,353 --> 00:46:54,172 but the Bible preaches against taking your own life. 685 00:46:54,209 --> 00:46:58,668 Then again, sometimes it's the right thing to do. 686 00:46:58,702 --> 00:47:02,017 Jason, your life will hit rock bottom some day. 687 00:47:02,056 --> 00:47:05,737 And when the time is right, you'll know what to do and how to do it. 688 00:47:05,777 --> 00:47:08,052 But don't worry, Jason. 689 00:47:08,091 --> 00:47:12,482 I'm here for you. I'm your friend, 690 00:47:12,517 --> 00:47:14,963 your only friend right now. 691 00:47:14,999 --> 00:47:18,611 �� Fall on your knees �� 692 00:47:18,653 --> 00:47:22,438 �� O, hear the �� 693 00:47:22,476 --> 00:47:26,522 �� Angels' voices �� 694 00:47:26,567 --> 00:47:30,648 �� O night �� 695 00:47:30,691 --> 00:47:33,573 �� Divine... �� 696 00:48:20,015 --> 00:48:22,290 It's kind of tough around here. 697 00:48:22,328 --> 00:48:25,643 A guy can't even get off in peace. 698 00:48:25,681 --> 00:48:29,031 I got 24-hour whack-off patrol up my ass. 699 00:48:30,980 --> 00:48:33,620 So listen, John... 55093

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