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are you getting anybody Jessica the
through the magazine said that
after cup fill another it's a really
weird scary feeling disoriented you
can't see in front of you it's like it's
false imprisonment I can't get away I
can't get out I can't get out of a store
because these guys are blocking the door
can't get to my car when I'm in my car
they're surrounding me I can't see the
flashlight box it's nighttime I can't my
vision is impaired
it's high-stress
I've been shooting since the eighties
and celebrity photography has changed a
lot what big award shows there are about
50 60 guys in the pen and they're all
fighting for the same image they're
trying to get a head shot or a
full-length fashion shot they're
screaming at the celebrities trying to
get eye contact into their camera I on
the other hand though I'm outside the
pen I'm on the red carpet where I go
right up to them I can make them pose
for me give me high contact what set up
a shot you'll talk to the PR people and
they'll even tell you flat out we don't
need all these guitars it's just for
Cameron Show basically all we need is
like five or six guys but no we want all
these photographers here because it
looks great on camera and it makes it
look more glamorous Hollywood if you
look in the magazines and on all these
websites and TV shows you've seen all
these celebrities where does it really
come from the red carpet is just one
piece of what's become a billion dollar
a year industry
I'm saying I think you're I adore it I
think you will do in the days of Hedda
Hopper at the premiere of something you
know the studios would hire
photographers but it was faithfully
waiting may I take a picture it was all
agreed upon client walking room say hey
how'd you get all these photographers
here you know nobody bought that anybody
I didn't force your friends you didn't
force my face now it's become something
totally different someone jumping over
your wall okay your wall you know how is
that not a clear line you can't do that
right example mark and I getting married
we took every precaution in every
measure so we can have a private moment
we decided to do it in the backyard
invite 20 people they thought they were
coming to a barbecue so some of them are
not even that dressed out in shorts
issue mark built the runway barely wet
hammer and nails to get a contract trust
anybody we had to do it ourselves was
just fine it was actually a beautiful
experience in its own way but even with
that they found a way helicopter comes
over right as I'm walking down the aisle
we couldn't hear each other making the
bow say yes because they do you did
right we don't take technically you can
get out of it I never but that place
wasn't even sacred like we should in our
home at least be sacred
here at Getty Images we're selling an
image every single second and within the
news or editorial area about 40% of all
those images are entertainment images I
get the same names thrown at me oh do
you work with any words do you work
Patrick Demarchelier but the most
published photographers in the world are
the entertainment photographers a lot of
people may not have heard of them
but these folks are being published in
the thousands and thousands every week
photographers the difference in
photographers well I guess there's three
kinds we got the guys that you regularly
see in a scene like Kevin and guys from
wire image but you see him at all the
show he kind of become friends and you
know they're not looking for a bad shot
you know they're looking for something
interesting cool no problem
then he got the stalker Otzi's you know
go through anything to get a shot and
sit there like you're eating lunch with
a bag with a big camera in it and flip
it out it on you like a moment's notice
and then some of the worst offenders are
just the creepos with the cell phones
they're acting like they're looking for
a number you know I'm buying a bulk of
burger which I don't want anybody to
know about you know I mean I eat steaks
and medium badass you know I'm thinking
in the bulk of burger section I go Huck
you know something like that no those
people suck people with mobile phones
I'm fine okay picture them you know you
can't go anywhere without being
photographed basically now you have to
be very care of it and you have to
behave accordingly
now the regular citizens have become
paparazzi's you're not save anywhere
anyone can sell you anyone can sell a
piece of you the kind of fascination
that we have with celebrities changed
over time we used to go and see movies
in these amazing movie houses many of
which were not only built to look like
palaces record palaces and we would sit
in the dark and we would watch these
huge larger-than-life people idols that
were literally like deities the first
people who appeared in movies their
names weren't used the audience had to
make up their own names for these people
Mary Pickford for instance became known
as the girl with the curls because as
the studios didn't promote them they
knew if they promoted them that they
would have to pay them more Pickford
really changed that personally she and
her mother invented stardom and the
percentage deal the movie makes so much
money I make so much money
unheard of unsinkable and she married
Douglas Fairbanks who on the male side
did the same thing back when Hollywood
was in its golden age it was glamorous
and beautiful and mysterious and you
wondered how they live and if they did a
spread in somebody's house was just so
special and now it's we're so exposed
there's no mystery today celebrity is an
industry and in every industry you have
raw material and the raw material in the
celebrity industry is an actual body an
actual flesh-and-blood person who has
feelings has emotions as a family that
raw material is shaped you have to look
a certain way so they have a stylist and
a publicist and a manager and an agent
that helped form the raw material into
the finished product
second of all if you have authorized
Felicity things that was celebrity and
his or her publicist have decided will
become part of this person's image
interviews magazine covers the actual
films the products in which the star
appears and then you have unauthorized
publicity such as paparazzi photography
and gossip unsanctioned but at the same
time it still contributes to the
formation of image next media takes this
image and gives it to the consumer as
far as outlets there's print there's
television and there's online so some of
the authorized outlets would be people
Entertainment Tonight
extra Access Hollywood and then it
starts website or a source fanclub
unauthorized and print we have in touch
and life in style there's gossip blogs
like TMZ Perez Hilton delisted and
Gawker so bottom line all these
different players they're all
interconnected and symbiotic on one
another
watch the cars behind you guys have a
great day and she sells Oh usually they
run white to 5,500 truthfully usually
they're $5,250 it's as much as 250,000
you may get nothing today but you may
come today or tomorrow and make more in
one day than most making a year the
problem is it has to be the most
audacious the most outrageous the most
intrusive behavior may get the most
saleable shot the agencies are trying to
get that to sell them to magazines or
video outlets that will pay money for it
and the public buys the magazines or
watches the show so it's that whole
cycle
what a game is to provoke a reaction
best thing that happened is somebody
think you swing at them you know or
start pushing with screaming that's a
better shot it's more money they usually
bring up thanks girlfriend's ex-wife's
they say stuff not Pam or it's not too
much they can really say to get my goat
it's more invading your space getting in
your face you're like wait a minute I
don't know you do you gonna come at me
and try to get a reaction
there's my reaction we're all good I've
given them one or two of those in my
time but now you just have to know that
that's the photograph that they want and
it's you know you just have to not give
it to them Oh worse this or that and if
they do provoke you they have one and
you have lost me on the other hand yeah
mark doesn't have as much of a tolerance
for that stuff so we try not to put them
in those situations they kind of want
Lindsay Lohan to have meltdown in public
so they've got their photograph this
week in a celebrity spotlight we view
Lohan is Yael Balan I mean oh no half
the time she gives them the thing they
want and it's very sad because it's like
this guy was a good actress she had
talent she made records you know and now
it's kind of she's become their toy and
it's frightening
there is a uniquely American sport
called grandest side we build someone up
to spectacular heights in order to tear
them down it's a vicious cycle they you
build up you break it down next to this
person coming back again let's break
them down again they don't need to sit
back and watch I know it's only a couple
days in but they say it's gonna go
number one
that moment of her just looking in the
camera shaving her head was such an
powerful moment it was like fuck you guy
there was something about it but that
was just fuck you you know I mean she
had enough she broke in front of us all
of our eyes and then they that people
captured that but it was really sad to
me people used to be able to develop
kind of quietly and if they made
mistakes the whole world didn't know
about them Nicky we don't know how lucky
we are that snot the way it is anymore
now really horrible behavior and people
who are definitely in trouble and need
help are often just seen as people who
are supposed to entertain you
our celebrity images are supposed to be
seamless but when those cracks open I
mean it's kind of dirty but it's also
fascinating I don't want a dragon skull
miss Charlie Sheen but then you know if
the Crocs open too wide there's nothing
left you borrow my marine for five
seconds and just be like dude handling
the treatment he's an absolute madness
okay you know you shouldn't look but
you're just curious
come on mr. P I'm Darrin lions mr.
pepper RT and this is my mini-me mr. P
I've started as a news photographer on a
local paper but my passion was certainly
gita' graffiti a lot of the world
looking from the outside in live really
this interesting lives and I think that
is what's captured the culture of
celebrity today I'm a true believer in
the image you know I've been to Bosnia
on the front line getting shot out in
Full Metal Jacket
I've won Press photographer for the year
in the United Kingdom two years in a row
I won all the awards you could imagine
being a photographer the fact that
matter is you know awards don't pay the
mortgage I sought celebrity as being the
huge moment of the future we've missed
the paparazzi calm I embraced it and i'm
still embracing it celebrity isn't going
to go away it's been around since time
began
he don't Julius Caesar was famous and
Napoleon was famous but they were famous
in different ways Yuki's the mass media
it had taken Napoleon a lifetime to
become famous it took Charlie Chaplin a
month one day he was nobody and months
later he was known in the deepest
jungles of Africa
he couldn't appear in public without a
mob coming around him and he had to
invent strategies to deal with that
celebrity today means anyone who's
famous now you can be famous young guy
who was in a balloon and floated across
the country is it that a star is Jeffrey
Dahmer a star historically the American
Dream meant that anyone could come to
America and through hard work could own
a home and provide for their family
now if the American Dream is really
transformed into anyone can become a
celebrity say something with that great
radio voice when you're listening to
nothing but the best of oldies the way
that people talk about YouTube is that
anyone who puts a video on YouTube can
become famous
everyone can deny Justin Bieber a
contract but then because enough people
are interested in him he can still
become famous it's this idea that if you
have talent and if you make that tell
invisible and you can be voted in our
democratic society to be a star I think
a recent survey of British children
under 15 said they were they want to be
a doctor or a nurse or an architect or a
photographer no they just wanted to be
either rich or famous
because we're not jobs and we don't care
what people think about it I think
that's why everybody loves us in general
a reality celebrity is like a one you
celebrity you pay a little for them but
then you can exploit them until they
disintegrate there are people out there
now there are completely celebrities and
absolutely famous who don't work who
don't even wore them doesn't sell
they have no but there's so scary
I hate reality television I think it's
the lowest common denominator it's mind
rot to me it numbs my brain and the
people being called celebrities and have
their own reality shows I'll kill them
tell me you won't regret it I think what
people misunderstand is that we're in
the entertainment industry we're not
these serious people and everyone's just
gotten so used to all these actors
taking themselves so seriously when it's
really just a joke industry is mostly
fun there's nothing wrong with the Kevin
Garnett all of those people if that's
how they choose to make a living more
power to them it's not my my my line of
work is is different I wanted to
entertain people reality TV is in a way
the new vaudeville there's nothing real
about reality TV people are led to
believe that it's real and it's it's the
big lie there's nothing real about it
I'll tell you the first time it bothered
me I walked out of my house I wanted to
go and get my mother-in-law a birthday
present and I walked out and for the
first time ever there were all these
photographers outside and I my first
instinct curiously enough because we're
kind of all animals basically it was to
run but then I got scared to run because
I was pregnant and I didn't trust the
streets of New York to like be my ally
and I started crying and I said to the
photographer's please don't chase me I'm
pregnant
please don't chase me and they kept
following me and I went into a building
I saw a doorman and a building and I
said to him he said okay can can I come
in your building and he took me down to
the garage and there was a couple and
they were on a motorcycle and they saw
me crying and she and I traded clothing
everything from head to toe and I got on
the back of her her boyfriend's
motorcycle and she walked out of my
clothes and he took me elsewhere and
dropped me off but it's just gotten
exponentially worse ever since then
out of my way that's all waiting for
somewhere
the Bob brought to you life is like the
lottery you might want to take a day off
but that might be the day when something
major happens then put your powers away
I start off very early in the morning
and I go late at night and I try to do
it six days a week if not seven days a
week it would be that a celebrity
reindeer come on bring him in free of
embryo man I love what I do because I
get to drive up and down the streets of
my favorite city in the world miss
Angeles California interrupts with
celebrities tourists I can take a day
off I want I'm my own boss I've no
answer to
you know made you better Bellucci so no
not aroma multi amoeba universal mr.
photographer chinko dr. BM o KR don't go
see Tamara photography the South though
they would work together in teams of two
one of the photographer's would
aggravate the celebrity that they were
shooting start some kind of
confrontation so that the other one
could take the photo came under
paparazzi you know mean been Dada you
can go CDs and other
to Tennessee she's India ramekin Fellini
much anniversary on Isabella goes away a
de facto ology not even send at the
brain very good in everything they are
denoted wonderful support la dolce vita
inlay product Lisa photographer female
for that you know me parapodia come on
Roberto
Antonio Franco like yo Chris oh no me
paparazzi the advent of the paparazzi
took on a whole different nastiness
paparazzi were I'll get you at any cost
and I'll get it if it means killing you
and the competition among them was so
fierce
Ron Coelho was probably the first
well-known paparazzi who everyday woke
up and decided to focus his lens on
Jackie Kennedy no matter what she was
doing or where she was
hey you just been good to run because he
got a lot of very bad press he was seen
to be you know parasite his photography
is now being collected by serious
photography collectors but you know when
Rob was working it was completely
different from the way it is now getting
a picture taken
went from something where you felt that
somebody was honoring you a part of you
your work your beauty your youth
something to a hunt
and most of the time instead of
celebrating something about you a lot of
the times trying to find something wrong
with you a bad shot of Lindsey doe Anna
I must to get a shot she's doing good
I'm taking a good shot if she's doing
bad well in her eyes I'm taking a bad
shot to meet still the shot
you're not the Brutus people I've ever
met thank you no wonder people come up
you know they use this as it goes
Oh paparazzi bad well you take the
picture and they wrote about it but you
shouldn't take the picture well okay but
they still sold magazines and you still
read it yeah I got a question do you
think the people hate more than fucking
important for the paparazzi I think it's
really easy to blame the paparazzi
because their actual bodies right there
that we can pinpoint eyes the cause
there are photos of the paparazzi
getting in the celebrities faces whereas
the writers and editors completely
unseen you certainly don't want to blame
ourselves
I think the paparazzi has a place 40% of
many of the magazines have paparazzi
photos they're an important part of the
industry I'm in a doctor's office and
they're all there and there's no men
around me that's the one I'll go for a
first either ok or us before Sports
Illustrated there's a controversy like
an argument between people and I know
it's gonna be like ongoing that's a good
gossip basically
confidential those behind the headlines
for its stories stories early feel I
feel the public should know Robert
Harrison published kind of topics in
magazines out of his apartment in the
1940s and then he started confidential
in the 1950s
confidential basically made what had to
that point than unspeakable speakable so
women's sexuality having relationships
between races even homosexuality
confidential was operating entirely
outside of the system and had no qualms
about reporting on these sorts of things
some of the stories were outrageous I
you know I boiled my baby in the oven
this morning and things like that I mean
terrible things and there were people
who believed it and all damage control
was just ignored just it'll go away and
most of the time it did the outlaw
magazines took advantage of the fact
that they were secrets that they could
basically use as blackmail the classic
story of course was the story about rock
Hudson's homosexuality which
confidential had absolute evidence of
and they said give us an exclusive story
and we won't print it so the studio took
a much lesser actor who was also gay and
they sacrificed him pretty sleazy stuff
but it was business confidential
became extremely popular in a very short
amount of time I mean upwards of five
million copies a month out of sight but
all of these stars including Maureen
O'Hara and Liberace and Dorothy
Dandridge filed suit against
confidential for the various things that
were said about them Robert Harrison
agreed to basically stop covering the
Stars and then the stars in the studios
would stop suing him so he sold it off I
think it's a part of Americana I think
it's gonna live long after I'm gone
they're so funny I mean you know you're
never gonna get the ball looking at ya
looking for all those sort of fun little
behind-the-scenes kind of images that
are gonna make a reader feel like that
they were really there someone's
stepping on someone's trained someone
greeting someone saying hi
nicole kidman Keith Urban going out on
their date night things like that from
this we pick a few hundred pictures and
I would say in terms of our space in the
magazine we have room for six
consecutive pages of award show coverage
now something really juicy happens at
the show never know I could get a cover
story out of it or it could go to the
hot stuff section and be a gossip item
Mila Kunis looked amazing so he might
write a full-length dress shot of her in
which case we can't necessarily run
another picture of her inside with
Natalie Portman even though it's really
cute so it's really just a giant puzzle
it was launched in the 1970s to compete
with people who a magazine was first
published in 1974 one of the first
issues had Gerald Ford not like in his
suit in the White House he's in a pool
and his shirt is off so it's really
trying to give this intimate look into
these different personalities lives it
was a tremendous success immediately
last week it was actually published by
the New York Times company originally
and eventually sold it to young Grenier
the founders are rolling stone it has
been a monthly a bi-weekly and weekly
they have changed its format its tone
who they're covering he tried everything
and none of it worked but seems like
people was invincible
around 2002 Bonnie fuller took over Us
Weekly and she changed the face of
celebrity reporting a lot of the
magazines would feature these glamorous
shots of celebrities and at the time
Us Weekly wasn't doing that well and so
the only photos that Us Weekly could
afford were those shots that magazines
wouldn't print I was interested in
celebrities being glamorous but then I
also wanted to see the human side of
them too and so we created a section
called stars are just like us lovey was
picking out their garbage picking up
their kids it was a home run for us I
guess I was a pioneer because it was the
first time if that paparazzi photos had
been presented that way she definitely
has the good hair and then the pretty
and hello know who it is
and you know kind of become the expert
and the insider so we want to always
give that that's one of the reasons why
they come here to Us Weekly the way that
we lay it out it always does feel like
you were like a member of the party
there and they loved it
you know if this thing is elite possible
didn't I'll take it it's not it's to
keep in a hole is that nowhere well then
I'm using it probably there I'm against
humanity not sore throat right anyways
when Bonnie and I work together as
editors at Us Weekly I broke the story
of that Britney Spears and Justin
Timberlake had broken up and then the
next week we had a follow up to that
story and we created these soap operas
there was a time when I was on the
tabloids every week for maybe two years
straight to everything in a soap opera
if you're in a relationship and you're
in the tabloids all the time it's like
well maybe that part was true maybe it
wasn't then all of a sudden you're a
victim too believing what they're saying
and what they're writing gossip is
itself just as much of a product as a
movie is actual people's lives are
turned into a story for us to consume
for example with a love triangle pose
Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie and
Jennifer Aniston and also with Liz
Taylor and Eddie Fisher and Debbie
Reynolds in 1958 each of the people in
both of these situations was given a
role to play the temptress the innocent
man in the middle and then the victim
and once Jennifer Aniston was made the
victim it's very difficult for her to
become something else which is the
reason why they're still magazine covers
now years later saying Jennifer Aniston
can't find love Jennifer Aniston can't
get over him because that is still her
role as victim when really she's of
course found happiness and she's dated
other people and whatever but that has
been the role in which she has been
slotted in the early days of Us Weekly
becoming successful People magazine
began to feature more of these breakups
and who's dating whom on us wanted to
scoop people at whatever cost so that
they could claim the exclusive and thus
attract bigger newsstand sales there was
this great photo of Jennifer Lopez
reading Us Weekly and we wanted that
shot but People magazine outbid us all
day I kept going up and up and up and up
and people never published those photos
but they paid tens of thousands of
dollars just so that we couldn't publish
her what happened is that series of
bidding wars for photos under bun fuller
and Janice men after her there really
escalated the photo price for all photos
even small photos inside the magazine
they still wanted to be the only ones
who hadn't it Bonnie fuller flipped the
demand so instead of just tracking the
moments when a star was either doing
something scandalous or doing something
that was absolutely glamorous really on
the paparazzi now needed photos of the
stars doing everything in between which
meant you know near 24 hours
surveillance
once you spot a car you look at the last
three numbers of the license plate to
match with the car Nicky Hilton black
Range Rover oh six nine paparazzi know
all the license-plate numbers they know
all the tailplane numbers of their
planes find out and they call me or take
me back they pay people off valet
Parkers the doorman at hot restaurants
and clubs they have a network of
informants
Laporte preventability
pull out of that website you know you
see one years to get a deal with one guy
in you hope and pray it doesn't start
calling all their friends you know
within 15 minutes there are five other
people through there
let the two guys get the shot and be
done with it but why there has to be 50
people getting the same shot if I saw
someone I want to photograph walk out of
the house I sure as hell wouldn't call
my buddies why not enjoy the entire
piece of steak
why I don't get the whole call friends
and relatives and
it's literally being pursued like prey
like an animal there's no kind of
structure there's no type of regulations
it's just just get that bitch get that
shot I don't care what it takes
they don't care about breaking the law
they'll climb a wall take pictures over
the gate they've done it at my office in
my backyard they do it the helicopter
you're in your backyard and the
helicopters coming that low and you
running in and it's like a stupid game
of have ice tried to reason oh my god
have I tried to reason I have tried to
reason with them I have had talks about
come on new there's better things that
you can do you could you can have you
can achieve your dream I mean it's
stupid it's just gotten out of control
there's certain instances where the
paparazzi's are gonna just over excite
themselves cameras get broken
couldn't get her depression they hit the
elbows but this is what it's all about
get that shot no matter what
I had a very public relationship that
fell apart and I was diagnosed with
breast cancer and I had never been an
a-list celebrity for I pretty much was
just photographed on red carpets and
maybe the occasional lunch at the ivy
aware but once that happened once I was
diagnosed and I was going through such
unhappiness in such real dark chaos in
my life I couldn't leave my house and it
really made me I guess start to dissect
what it is that would make that's such
an interesting thing to photograph and
is that what sells magazines is seeing
somebody at their lowest a word that has
become absolutely meaningless today is
unspeakable there's nothing that
unspeakable anymore you know starters
cellulite they pump gas too they are
still love triangles it's degrading to
women especially the way they showed you
to show women celebrities it's just like
I was in Hawaii I wasn't and you know I
have this horrible bikini shot that a
paparazzi got and crap light in a weird
angle and it just it look it's terrible
and and and it was everywhere and they
did everything to just make me look like
I was just this peach droid with
cellulite fine it was just so bad and I
was like oh my god do I look like this I
have a little girl I don't read this in
front of her I don't really read any of
my magazines and find my daughter
because I'm I don't want her to get that
bad body image at such a young age and
it happens really young like I've had
little girls as a teacher so I mean have
fed at four years old where are you
getting this from I think the magazines
and the media are the catechol that's
the the breeding ground for them whether
it be people us InStyle glamour both
they all portray women as this
untouchable
goal
you can create the illusion that someone
is a normal ordinary person in other
words you don't Crawford vacuums their
own house or she has the perfect family
or you can create the illusion that
their aloof aristocratic goddesses but
control was the name of the game and the
whole apparatus grew up around that need
the studio system determined which
movies the stars would appear in it also
determined where they would live what
cars they would drive and in certain
cases who they would marry it also
provided them with protection all of the
images came through the studio's
publicity Department so if you were
running a fan magazine and you ran a
photograph which was unflattering that
was it you didn't get another photograph
not only at that star but of all of the
other stars that were working for that
particular studio if one of their stars
was involved in a scandal the studio
would wash right in and do damage
control it could be hushed up so the
control that that time was firmly
meeting she's not the case anymore the
mainstream media can say we won't report
about X Y or Z and it's still going to
be widely known because so many are
reporting it on the Internet so the kind
of control that celebrities and their
managers and their Studios used to have
over their images simply does not exist
anymore
TMZ is not about getting the next Tom
Cruise interview it's just not and so I
don't think there's as much leverage
Harvey Levin
got his start as a lawyer and
correspondent covering the Rhoda Simpson
trial in 1990s police are banking on
blood in the Ford Bronco to started TMZ
in 2004 and what TMZ is doing is taking
the tactics to form the colors that the
general ethos of confidential and just
transferring it to new medium a little
over half past the hour now here's a
look at the stories that you may have
missed Lindsay Lohan Cable News push the
network news to be faster and more
immediate
and now the network news and cable news
are in many ways responding to what
happens on the Internet media habits
have totally changed ways of getting
information people go online they don't
wait for weekly don't wait for a monthly
magazine anymore when some news breaks
they want to know now what's going on
whenever something happens it doesn't be
very like his birthday was yesterday
Google sent my phone right pass and got
new haircut sent to my phone TMZ just
fasting I'm obsessed with TMZ calm in
2006 TMZ broke the story of Mel Gibson's
arrest which drove a tremendous amount
of traffic to the site since then TMZ
has grown into an incredibly well-read
site
he then went on to use the base product
this raw footage from the website and
then came up with a way that he could
repackage it on television
finally Snooki is good Nicole you are
amazing in WrestleMania if you asked
around and you say why do you come to
TMZ increasingly which you're gonna hear
people say is they seem to get the
stories first when I was running MSNBC
we would do our best to make sure source
was credible but these news operations
simply don't have the time or the
ability to fact-check some of what
they're reporting and it's very good
that you brought that out I never said
that in that context he never talked to
those people and I never talked to those
people either they make up things yeah
they do it's very tough unfortunately
for a celebrity to sue a publication you
have to prove malice you have to prove
negligence also a lot of celebrities
don't want to draw attention to a story
that is completely wrong or defamatory
or give publicity to some blogger who's
working out of his garage if you sue
that person suddenly you make their site
relevant I have a big famous lawsuit
against the Sun newspaper in Britain a
long time ago in the eighties which
wrote me crazy went on for a year and a
half that said that I slept with
underage Rent Boys gave them drugs
urinated on them I mean it made my life
hell but I got a front-page apology
which was the most important thing for
me we were wrong we're sorry now people
can just make up what they want on the
internet and as soon as I put it on the
internet it goes worldwide so you're
forever denying things nobody's gonna
care about the story tomorrow and they
convinced you to just deal with it when
don't a sudden you're hearing rumors
that are not true on a CNN crawl that's
sort of go this is CNN beautiful I don't
take it personally at this point but if
there was something about the outlet of
CNN that felt like that's a prestigious
you know channel if you respond to
certain things you're right in the
sandbox with them if you don't respond
the story now grows because of the viral
world and because of 24-hour news cycle
so we're constantly trying to figure out
how to put out a fire
perfect example is Tiger Woods he didn't
say anything he issued a statement that
he had quote transgressions and then he
disappeared for months women came out of
the woodwork and it ended up being a
giant scandal because he let it blow up
I think of this as a system anything
that happens here also you know has a
chain reaction throughout the rest of
the industry like Tiger Woods who we
were being served a very tightly
controlled image as soon as the scandal
broke you know a watch company or Nike
doesn't want their name affiliated with
this sort of behavior this morning TMZ
reports KMZ is saying
TMZ has learned until very recently
major news organizations wouldn't have
cited it a TMZ as a source and now they
do there's something beyond just
reporting who's making out with whom
therein lies the love-hate relationship
that we have with someone like lemon
he's illuminating things that we maybe
don't want to know about that we also
feel we should know about but then on
the flip side there's a lot of sagging
flesh and giving the camera the finger
so a blog will have unauthorized content
that may or may not be false maybe in a
post right above or below journalistic
content its dictating that we learn how
to do our homework not believe
everything we were reading in blogs
because everybody has an angle we're at
a really dangerous spot as far as our
inability to discern what is fact and
what is fiction
believe what you read yeah no trace but
believe what you read
got this one yeah that is shot yeah yeah
but it's probably even true and we'll
read it still read it yeah you can't
beat the truth of a camera and this is
what the celebrities are paranoid about
the camera doesn't lie it doesn't stop
the Botox it doesn't stop the surgery
and it doesn't stop you're having sex
with a co-star this is real no one can
lie about this picture it's there and
that's one of the great historical
significance --is that photography and
the media bring today
the problem is with the celebrities it's
instantaneous they have no control even
when we're talking about authorized
photos there's still a lot the
celebrities can control
this is pretty much how we receive
things out here pretty much their entire
body gets retouched well you can kind of
see here or it asks to cut in we cut in
we have to make sure that's all the red
carpets match and it doesn't so we're
gonna have to fix that
some other time the people in the
background that you see are not really
there or duplicated and get rid of
stains on her dress and try to get rid
of the wrinkles paparazzi shots need a
lot more TLC than a better photo that we
get from a you know a great photographer
that's definitely a lot less work and
let's help her a little bit because she
looks a little tired sometimes we get
photos that are you know green yeah but
we can fix that
the idea that a picture never lies is
simply not true
a picture captures somebody at a
particular moment in time celebrity can
tell a joke and pull a face or something
and then when that person's in trouble
that image will appear and it'll look
like it was shot at the same time in
reaction to something that they've done
so and images don't always tell the
truth it's the context the context is
very important so I think people need to
be more discerning when they're looking
at images we need Zellweger is probably
one of the toughest shots to get because
she doesn't really come out and be seen
as often as we'd like her to be seen
exhilirating mean Joey I'm making her
smile and laugh and uh making her feel
good you know their life is about you
know stay in the public eye because you
forgotten then my camera goes down and
then the world doesn't know where you
didn't want to care about moving all
morning you'll be gone in a flash it's
called Hollywood who makes them famous
well actually I do
they reliant on the paparazzi to
photograph them to make the money that's
delusional
that is absolutely delusional
paparazzi's do not keep your career
alive you know we're not saying don't
take our pictures we understand there's
a market here but a photograph of you in
your back you know backyard sunbathing
topless cuz you can and you should be
able to that's a violation and the
photograph it's in a magazine there's an
agreement that this is my job and I'm to
be photographed one is like having
someone rob your house and go into your
panty drawer and the other is something
artistic and beautiful and both are in
agreement that this is going to take
place there's a difference vitaminwater
zero hot line this is Ellen how can I
help you as long as you're famous
you've become an enormous commodity in
this country my guest tonight is
somebody's been the scent of a huge
scandal rocking American and news is a
business newspaper entities need to sell
papers websites want traffic television
networks want ratings Lindsay Lohan
increasingly the way to get that is to
have an entertainment component
record-setting weekend the tune of 30
million more than a hundred and fifty
five million dollars this opening
weekend every Sunday night what's the
first item you see on the news how much
money a movie made over the weekend
avatar is the number one spot I mean
avatar hit a billion and it's bigger
than the security breach at the airport
it's bigger news why Nick Paton Walsh
donning his life from Kabul Afghanistan
many thanks she made sure he got the
message wait until you hear about
Charlie Sheen's the concept of hard news
has really changed Charlie Sheen
insisted a lot of what used to be
considered tabloid is now mainstream
frankly they stopped telling important
news about the world and they just tell
gossip
sometimes you can only watch so many
things there's somebody that stabbed
like all day long and you know me like
there's a flood here or there's an
earthquake there like who doesn't like a
good Hollywood escape from time to time
there's an argument that celebrities act
as infotainment Parkinson's Awareness
Month
Michael Joffe are actually often helping
issues have real concerned getting into
the public domain
so for instance if tragically a
celebrity is ill with breast cancer or
something like that it does raise
awareness speak to the importance of
screening but there's concern on the
other hand but focusing so much on the
my news shy of how famous people live
their lives is just diverting attention
from issues which the press should be
filling their pages with Sarah Palin
entertainment or journalism Sarah Palin
is a very good example of the way in
which celebrity culture has influenced
the politics I cross my fingers hoping
it wasn't a mistake I mean say what you
will about Sarah Palin she has been
brilliant and manipulating her image I
think there's real indecision over
whether or not Sarah Palin really wants
to be President or she just wants to be
a celebrity
I think it's unclear it certainly is the
question that's United Hollywood and
Washington you know democracy becomes
another reality show is Trump actually
serious about running for president
that's not good for anyone
if the mainstream media were to fold and
celebrity tabloids were the only people
out there publishing it would mean that
our entire system of democracy has
collapsed democracy relies on an
informed electorate to make educated
decisions at the ballot box you can only
do that if you have access to truthful
timely information the public has a lot
of responsibility here the paparazzi
doesn't get away with this in a vacuum
so I think citizens need to step up and
start valuing that information they're
getting from their local news gatherers
all right yeah I'm done with the Paris
Authority what do you have against the
Paris Hilton I have nothing against
Paris Hilton that was not the issue
she's very in whether or not it was
worthy as elite
I think at this point is getting to be
supply leading demand because I mean
look at how many magazines there are now
like do I really need that but picking
them up now walked in Airport and it'll
be three or four people buried in this
magazine and I'll walk through and no
one will notice me which is great but it
is it's there's some irony there and I
understand it cuz I can get sucked into
it I can spend twenty minutes on an
airplane and flip through that stuff and
I can be in that world reading about
who's dating who or looking at
somebody's cellulite on a beach or
whatever and it makes me feel awful
you know the celebrities are famous
people they know that they work hard I
think to become a celebrity in the first
place and then you got their picture all
over the magazine so I don't feel guilty
at all plus not buying the magazine's it
costs me a little bit of money to even
buy the magazine itself it comes with
your job you've asked for this life you
wanted to be in the limelight in the
spotlight so deal with it yeah you know
I kind of asked for this life and kind
of knew that this is part of it that
comes with it but I mean the same way
you know the magazines make money they
make money for me you know they get the
word out that I have a record out there
and put me in some light that hopefully
shines and people connect to make them
wanna hear my record there's a price to
fame now are you willing to pay it
yes that's part of your job is promoting
your work but not I don't think it's
your job when you're going to a yoga
class that's not your job
that's an invasion of privacy and they
need to stop look I have a great life I
wouldn't trade myself even with the
paparazzi following me but not because I
have a great life they should feel like
they own it we represent the Bombers
rights in for many many years and I got
into the habit of carrying a large black
umbrella whether the weather calls for
it or not and if I saw a photographer's
coming towards us I would open the
umbrella and like two fools we would
walk down the street with the umbrella
in front of me
so the photographers would not take a
picture she did not want her picture
taken on the other hand Frank Sinatra
who we represented controlled that part
of his celebrity but never appearing in
public Sinatra would walk down the
street if you had to go from here to
there we took a car do you remember when
we were like in the trunk of somebody's
car trying to get away in Gina's car who
is laying in the trunk I'm like what
women when did this happen
I wanted to go shopping you know I'm
like I'm in the trunk with my girlfriend
and I'm like this is your life what is
nothing you can do about it whatever I
was like I beg to differ I beg to differ
you feel out of control like you have no
control over this and then you realize I
have to actually changed my life
we've moved out of Miami we've taken
measures to just
you know sort of concentrated quality of
life there's a lot of places where you
can live whether or not paparazzi you
don't have to be in the public eye
there's ways to avoid the cameras and
then they'll say well she's isolated she
lives a rarefied life she doesn't know
she does have the human touch she's not
well I'm desperate to be like you and
you and you the problem always is that
certain celebrities invite in the
attention and so the response of the
media is well we're getting cold they
should have an agreement you know the
reality that whether it's the Paris
Hilton's or the girls that don't have an
issue with it
the Jersey Shore's all of those
television shows there should be an
agreement but that doesn't mean that
everybody else is a free-for-all a lot
of the time they're told where to be and
when it becomes kind of a game
tip you for don't give an information
out indirectly what the client won't
even know just to build more - there's
supposed to that's their job you know
Twitter has become another source
one time we had a source that was giving
us specific incredible information it
was almost if it was coming from
Angelina Jolie's mouth herself on when
Pete flew into Africa private little
resort we had three or four minutes to
get the picture that was bought in an
auction overnight by US magazine
unauthorized publicity definitely has a
role in maintaining the star's
visibility and I think that today
celebrities have learned to allow just
enough coverage so as to make it seem
like you are you know giving some of
yourself but at the same time
maintaining some ones of privacy
I mean someone like Brad and Angelina
have a really meticulously maintained
star image but they also allow slight
moments of authenticity that make them
interesting Angelina Jolie knows exactly
the moment that you need to have this
particular part of her persona exposed
to the world this particular part of her
life exposed to the world and she's
brilliant at it you have to constantly
be able to reinvent yourself and the
ones who stay before us really are the
ones who one way or another managed to
do something that keeps us interested in
fascinated that to me
smells celebrity double standards I
don't agree with it I think it's
completely not only wrong like Angelina
Abed Pizza under my terms I'll put my
children on the front of a magazine for
15 million bucks but when you're
photographing me in a public place oh
that's not on I don't understand that
that was a very interesting case we
worked with them for free they wanted
all the money to go to charities that
worked perfectly the value of an
exclusive image is very high because
that baby or that wedding hasn't been
photographed before so if we can work
with the celebrities and get those
pictures out first it is a massive
disincentive to the paparazzi to chase
after them because they're not going to
get a lot of money for the third picture
of the baby when the first pictures have
been published everywhere
publicity you know it's a game played
for the benefit of everyone involved up
to a certain point and that certain
point is where it gets dangerous
drive out the garage a couple yards down
the street 1 2 3 4 cars they've all be
smokin cigarettes waiting for you to
come out jump in their cars and then
you're off the main car runs a yellow
light everybody behind that person with
ten cars running lights until it turns
green again then you find yourself
driving kind of like crazy just to get
away from them
one in the front one in the back one on
the side you feel like a trapped rat
it's a matter of playing chicken either
you're gonna stop or you're gonna crash
into the car
Nicole Richie's Gina was chased by
paparazzi and got in a car accident
thank God her children are in the car
it can get really dangerous look what
happened to Diana reports say a vehicle
carrying the princess and her entourage
was being chased by photographers
several hours after the accident
French emergency services were still at
the scene cutting people from the
wreckage this is not a time for
recriminations but for sadness however I
would say that I always believed the
press would kill her in the end but not
even I could imagine if there takes such
a direct hand and had that seems to be
the case it would appear that every
proprietor and editor of every
publication that has paid for intrusive
and exploited photographs of her
encouraging greedy and ruthless
individuals to risk everything in
pursuit of Diana's image has blood on
his hands today well if the publishers
had blood on their hands today so do the
readers of those magazines after the
whole shock of her death people started
putting flowers outside Buckingham
Palace and several legitimate news
photographers were assaulted because
they were taking photographs of people
putting the flowers down the people who
assaulted them were the same people who
had bought the magazines that made her
image for valuable commodity
photographers would not have chased her
if they couldn't have got good money for
those photographs and it was the people
who were buying the magazines that was
ultimately supplying that money when
Princess Diana died it was a sense of
wow this is gonna change everything what
was sort of the immediate impact in
England
I think media interest in Princess Diana
and specifically her death led to a
change of culture the commercial demands
for those kind of photos fell but
unfortunately in the last few years as
for younger Royals sources joined the
family the media interest in them and
the intrusion is escalating again
only maybe we party on Monday iconic
shops where the world was waiting for
what I love about teaching history is to
say well this isn't the first time this
has happened
you can go back then show how it all
happened before Connie rich abundance of
antenna in Instagram Oh check the boon
to Sochi before it Estrada which is a
more firm article about sushi grade
salmon delirium are you daughter Sheila
$40 machina boy no avail photography I
presume on dopa if I'd the the Diana
train perimeter substantial Rd great
monuments of paparazzi
Ross was pretty stubborn
I am a photojournalist it's an art you
know they're not journalists paparazzi
are people with a camera anyone can get
a camera you can go to the drugstore and
buy a disposable camera now you're
taking pictures all of a sudden that's
journalism no way are they a journalist
if they're allowed to do it if they're
allowed to chase you if they're allowed
if they're allowed to invade your
privacy and they know they're gonna make
money off of it they're not gonna stop I
just feel a photographer take a decent
photograph gonna learn your trade make
some beautiful photographs like you know
Irving Penn or some other now what you
do is just it's just crap it's crap it
must be frustrating it must be
frustrating what I think might be even
more frustrating is to never see a
photographer again
paparazzi are doing journalism they are
gathering information they are telling a
story of some sort and disseminating it
to an audience
the First Amendment protects artists in
their ability to be creative and
sometimes risque and it also protects
the paparazzi but it doesn't necessarily
mean that it protects against each and
every action there definitely are limits
to free speech you don't get to publish
false things about somebody you don't
get to publish obscenity child
pornography you do not get to invade
someone's privacy by shooting with the
long telephoto lens into somebody's
bedroom the Supreme Court has said you
don't get to do those things you tell me
this kind of behavior is covered by what
journalism should be covered ollie
that's just bull
these people are behaving terribly it's
beyond rude and crude and unacceptable
but it's very hard to legislate good
behavior I'm not somebody for more laws
and more laws and more laws to say who
can shoot a picture and who can't and
where they can put in what they can do I
mean that's part of the beauty of our
society is the freedoms but there's got
to be something that we can stand up
morally as a culture and say hey that's
not cool taking picture that kid over
there cut it up
I love to walk my son to school because
it's the time of day that he's very open
the whole world is interesting to him
and to have long lenses aimed at you
purposefully getting in your never mind
your physical path but your emotional
path it's actually a scary feeling like
having sharpshooters aimed at you the
more intimate shots are the ones that
people criticize or why don't you leave
them alone and but there is a demand for
it we just shoot and submit them into
the library it's up to the agencies the
publication the TV networks the websites
and blogs wherever you read it or saw it
ask to them why do they publish it cute
kids are popular and celebrities have a
lot of cute kids a lot of women love to
look at you babies
now they're having covers of these
magazines it's like who's the cutest
Hollywood baby they haven't decided to
become a famous person so you can't you
can't do that to them there are so many
outlets now to sell pictures of
celebrity kids and there's so much money
to be made and it it's you can't even
argue with somebody about the ethics of
it you know I can't explain to somebody
I'm a high profile person but my son
isn't and just because he's with me it's
not like a handbag you know he's a
person and it's worrisome yeah it's
really worrisome how's it going Britney
whoever flashed these lights my kid
again the thought is devastating to me
it's frightening it's terribly
frightening to me um well really just
may be really upset to think about that
right I mean have someone following your
children is it's entering a place that
just no one should be leave children out
of it they didn't ask to be famous and
they have their rights too you know the
kids ought to be doing the suing and
that might be way legally to get some
traction on this
there are very different laws of privacy
by the English courts than the American
courts JKRowling port proceedings on
behalf of her very young son and it was
held that her son had a reasonable
expectation of privacy that he wouldn't
be followed around by photographers on
the street in the same way that any
ordinary child wouldn't be photographed
by the paparazzi there was a landmark
case because it established that the
children of famous people should be
treated in the same way as the children
of Ottoman parents a three-year-old
suing me in court I think is wrong I
mean I think it's absolutely ridiculous
the fact the matter is the JK rowling
case the only reason why I didn't lose
the case she was just given the right to
go to a trial but it was you know you
take of the world's richest woman and
you know was David Nicolai in France
they can't take a picture of my child
it's real it's night and day if you
compare Paris to the Sanjana Soni year
here in the United States probably any
judge under the law is going to say hey
no you don't get to follow them wherever
you know the very first case out there
Jacqueline Kennedy had a lawsuit against
wrangle Ella because she was concerned
for the safety of Caroline and young
John and she was able to get it declared
in New York that he had to stay a
certain distance away from those
children since then there's pretty much
been a truce around presidential
children but I think it's a little bit
different from what children of
celebrities experience
I remember it was night and it was
really cold so my thing that flash is
gonna fail that's like two months three
months old so I I told my nan take take
her and when they were taking my picture
they were all over they didn't care they
pushed the baby they put another sheet
nearly went to the floor and then of
course I charged after the photographer
I made sure the baby was okay and I was
just so angry my child could have had a
really serious accident I mean when
you're 2 or 3 on the street they think
he could have stepped on her that just
ought to be illegal it's a little
criminal there should be certain rules I
think I just feel like it's an invasion
of privacy and that these kids really
don't need that kind of attention at
this point in their lives even if their
mom or their dad is the famous one it
doesn't give them the paparazzi know
right that you want nothing to do with
it that's what if I was to say Evan
wants to see their kids don't do it hmm
it's kind of sad but it's like it makes
me more interested in what the kids are
doing because like that's the new
generation of celebrities coming up
the public has to take some degree of
responsibility and demand that these
sort of photographs not be published
that they put pressure economic
political social pressure on media
entities to say we don't want this we
won't have it
I took a total of 289
here at Us Weekly we get about 750,000
four million images a month the images
are coming at us from all different
angles and anybody whose eyes are
working will see about a thousand images
a day we should be asking ourselves
what's happening in this photo where was
taken when it was taken context is
everything
we are drenched and piled over with
media coverage I'm not gonna say it's
good for us or bad for us it is what it
is and we're going to have to make the
best of it I mean we watch tabloid
magazine television shows and we buy the
magazines and we're invested in reality
TV but we don't we don't have an
interconnectedness that is personal you
know that where we're sitting in front
of each other it's become the disease of
our culture celebrity
we are complicit in the driving of this
industry it's something that we should
think about we should analyze and what
we need to actually enact change is
action be aware
don't be naive about where these
pictures are coming from they sell it
because there's a market for it
consider where are you going to place
value we don't have to watch it never
have to read it
I think I'll deal with myself I'm trying
to be a little more conscious 17 have
fun and you know see what's going on in
the celebrity world she needs to be a
little more conscious about what's going
on in real world
somebody in the army reads a celebrity
doctors that save lives teachers cops
firefighters you know that's a celebrity
they want to really get down to it
all I wanted when I got into this
industry was make some money make a lot
of money make history
Bart wake up get out they're gonna get
she's
a member of the paparazzi for 150
dollars two people can hang out with
paparazzo Rick Mendoza he's hungry that
goes between
after she allegedly ran over his flat
like Jesus Christ could come back a few
thousand years to give us a Polish and
somebody to get a picture and put it on
TMZ the first comment would be Jesus is
a fucking douchebag you know by me now
is that against the law
they get your points for that you have I
took three or four miles specially to
take that I got to get like
my wife got path to JFK last night well
I see a blonde with a Louis Vuitton bags
they were right in her face she was
right in my face
I just walked away like nothing happened
you
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