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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:22,410 --> 00:00:28,439 are you getting anybody Jessica the 2 00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:28,439 through the magazine said that 3 00:00:35,090 --> 00:00:46,140 after cup fill another it's a really 4 00:00:40,289 --> 00:00:49,500 weird scary feeling disoriented you 5 00:00:46,140 --> 00:00:51,659 can't see in front of you it's like it's 6 00:00:49,500 --> 00:00:53,159 false imprisonment I can't get away I 7 00:00:51,659 --> 00:00:54,569 can't get out I can't get out of a store 8 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,209 because these guys are blocking the door 9 00:00:54,570 --> 00:00:59,429 can't get to my car when I'm in my car 10 00:00:57,210 --> 00:01:01,198 they're surrounding me I can't see the 11 00:00:59,429 --> 00:01:03,948 flashlight box it's nighttime I can't my 12 00:01:01,198 --> 00:01:03,948 vision is impaired 13 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,600 it's high-stress 14 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,129 I've been shooting since the eighties 15 00:02:13,270 --> 00:02:18,939 and celebrity photography has changed a 16 00:02:15,129 --> 00:02:21,430 lot what big award shows there are about 17 00:02:18,939 --> 00:02:24,039 50 60 guys in the pen and they're all 18 00:02:21,430 --> 00:02:25,360 fighting for the same image they're 19 00:02:24,039 --> 00:02:26,799 trying to get a head shot or a 20 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,810 full-length fashion shot they're 21 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:32,560 screaming at the celebrities trying to 22 00:02:28,810 --> 00:02:34,689 get eye contact into their camera I on 23 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,000 the other hand though I'm outside the 24 00:02:34,689 --> 00:02:38,620 pen I'm on the red carpet where I go 25 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,889 right up to them I can make them pose 26 00:02:38,620 --> 00:02:45,159 for me give me high contact what set up 27 00:02:41,889 --> 00:02:47,229 a shot you'll talk to the PR people and 28 00:02:45,159 --> 00:02:48,849 they'll even tell you flat out we don't 29 00:02:47,229 --> 00:02:50,949 need all these guitars it's just for 30 00:02:48,849 --> 00:02:53,049 Cameron Show basically all we need is 31 00:02:50,949 --> 00:02:54,429 like five or six guys but no we want all 32 00:02:53,050 --> 00:02:55,960 these photographers here because it 33 00:02:54,430 --> 00:03:00,189 looks great on camera and it makes it 34 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:01,360 look more glamorous Hollywood if you 35 00:03:00,189 --> 00:03:03,009 look in the magazines and on all these 36 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,900 websites and TV shows you've seen all 37 00:03:03,009 --> 00:03:07,659 these celebrities where does it really 38 00:03:04,900 --> 00:03:09,370 come from the red carpet is just one 39 00:03:07,659 --> 00:03:12,030 piece of what's become a billion dollar 40 00:03:09,370 --> 00:03:12,030 a year industry 41 00:03:20,310 --> 00:03:24,789 I'm saying I think you're I adore it I 42 00:03:22,990 --> 00:03:27,310 think you will do in the days of Hedda 43 00:03:24,789 --> 00:03:28,359 Hopper at the premiere of something you 44 00:03:27,310 --> 00:03:30,670 know the studios would hire 45 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:33,400 photographers but it was faithfully 46 00:03:30,669 --> 00:03:36,219 waiting may I take a picture it was all 47 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,300 agreed upon client walking room say hey 48 00:03:36,219 --> 00:03:39,819 how'd you get all these photographers 49 00:03:37,300 --> 00:03:41,200 here you know nobody bought that anybody 50 00:03:39,819 --> 00:03:45,189 I didn't force your friends you didn't 51 00:03:41,199 --> 00:03:48,489 force my face now it's become something 52 00:03:45,189 --> 00:03:51,669 totally different someone jumping over 53 00:03:48,490 --> 00:03:53,290 your wall okay your wall you know how is 54 00:03:51,669 --> 00:03:55,089 that not a clear line you can't do that 55 00:03:53,289 --> 00:03:56,889 right example mark and I getting married 56 00:03:55,090 --> 00:03:58,300 we took every precaution in every 57 00:03:56,889 --> 00:04:00,509 measure so we can have a private moment 58 00:03:58,300 --> 00:04:02,860 we decided to do it in the backyard 59 00:04:00,509 --> 00:04:04,449 invite 20 people they thought they were 60 00:04:02,860 --> 00:04:05,800 coming to a barbecue so some of them are 61 00:04:04,449 --> 00:04:08,649 not even that dressed out in shorts 62 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:12,189 issue mark built the runway barely wet 63 00:04:08,650 --> 00:04:13,750 hammer and nails to get a contract trust 64 00:04:12,189 --> 00:04:15,099 anybody we had to do it ourselves was 65 00:04:13,750 --> 00:04:17,108 just fine it was actually a beautiful 66 00:04:15,099 --> 00:04:21,639 experience in its own way but even with 67 00:04:17,108 --> 00:04:24,129 that they found a way helicopter comes 68 00:04:21,639 --> 00:04:26,168 over right as I'm walking down the aisle 69 00:04:24,129 --> 00:04:31,899 we couldn't hear each other making the 70 00:04:26,168 --> 00:04:33,909 bow say yes because they do you did 71 00:04:31,899 --> 00:04:36,699 right we don't take technically you can 72 00:04:33,910 --> 00:04:38,290 get out of it I never but that place 73 00:04:36,699 --> 00:04:41,310 wasn't even sacred like we should in our 74 00:04:38,290 --> 00:04:41,310 home at least be sacred 75 00:04:50,750 --> 00:04:56,839 here at Getty Images we're selling an 76 00:04:53,060 --> 00:05:00,199 image every single second and within the 77 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:03,609 news or editorial area about 40% of all 78 00:05:00,199 --> 00:05:06,199 those images are entertainment images I 79 00:05:03,610 --> 00:05:07,370 get the same names thrown at me oh do 80 00:05:06,199 --> 00:05:09,229 you work with any words do you work 81 00:05:07,370 --> 00:05:10,790 Patrick Demarchelier but the most 82 00:05:09,230 --> 00:05:13,100 published photographers in the world are 83 00:05:10,790 --> 00:05:14,180 the entertainment photographers a lot of 84 00:05:13,100 --> 00:05:15,590 people may not have heard of them 85 00:05:14,180 --> 00:05:17,980 but these folks are being published in 86 00:05:15,589 --> 00:05:19,939 the thousands and thousands every week 87 00:05:17,980 --> 00:05:22,069 photographers the difference in 88 00:05:19,939 --> 00:05:23,449 photographers well I guess there's three 89 00:05:22,069 --> 00:05:25,129 kinds we got the guys that you regularly 90 00:05:23,449 --> 00:05:26,269 see in a scene like Kevin and guys from 91 00:05:25,129 --> 00:05:27,649 wire image but you see him at all the 92 00:05:26,269 --> 00:05:29,029 show he kind of become friends and you 93 00:05:27,649 --> 00:05:29,870 know they're not looking for a bad shot 94 00:05:29,029 --> 00:05:33,409 you know they're looking for something 95 00:05:29,870 --> 00:05:35,209 interesting cool no problem 96 00:05:33,410 --> 00:05:36,500 then he got the stalker Otzi's you know 97 00:05:35,209 --> 00:05:37,579 go through anything to get a shot and 98 00:05:36,500 --> 00:05:38,870 sit there like you're eating lunch with 99 00:05:37,579 --> 00:05:39,919 a bag with a big camera in it and flip 100 00:05:38,870 --> 00:05:42,019 it out it on you like a moment's notice 101 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,330 and then some of the worst offenders are 102 00:05:42,019 --> 00:05:46,069 just the creepos with the cell phones 103 00:05:44,329 --> 00:05:47,389 they're acting like they're looking for 104 00:05:46,069 --> 00:05:48,529 a number you know I'm buying a bulk of 105 00:05:47,389 --> 00:05:50,029 burger which I don't want anybody to 106 00:05:48,529 --> 00:05:51,619 know about you know I mean I eat steaks 107 00:05:50,029 --> 00:05:53,779 and medium badass you know I'm thinking 108 00:05:51,620 --> 00:05:56,060 in the bulk of burger section I go Huck 109 00:05:53,779 --> 00:05:57,829 you know something like that no those 110 00:05:56,060 --> 00:05:59,689 people suck people with mobile phones 111 00:05:57,829 --> 00:06:00,589 I'm fine okay picture them you know you 112 00:05:59,689 --> 00:06:02,420 can't go anywhere without being 113 00:06:00,589 --> 00:06:04,789 photographed basically now you have to 114 00:06:02,420 --> 00:06:07,480 be very care of it and you have to 115 00:06:04,790 --> 00:06:07,480 behave accordingly 116 00:06:09,038 --> 00:06:14,498 now the regular citizens have become 117 00:06:11,699 --> 00:06:17,619 paparazzi's you're not save anywhere 118 00:06:14,499 --> 00:06:22,028 anyone can sell you anyone can sell a 119 00:06:17,619 --> 00:06:24,279 piece of you the kind of fascination 120 00:06:22,028 --> 00:06:29,588 that we have with celebrities changed 121 00:06:24,278 --> 00:06:32,558 over time we used to go and see movies 122 00:06:29,588 --> 00:06:34,509 in these amazing movie houses many of 123 00:06:32,559 --> 00:06:37,210 which were not only built to look like 124 00:06:34,509 --> 00:06:38,619 palaces record palaces and we would sit 125 00:06:37,209 --> 00:06:41,888 in the dark and we would watch these 126 00:06:38,619 --> 00:06:49,240 huge larger-than-life people idols that 127 00:06:41,889 --> 00:06:50,559 were literally like deities the first 128 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,418 people who appeared in movies their 129 00:06:50,559 --> 00:06:53,999 names weren't used the audience had to 130 00:06:52,418 --> 00:06:56,889 make up their own names for these people 131 00:06:53,999 --> 00:06:58,960 Mary Pickford for instance became known 132 00:06:56,889 --> 00:07:00,879 as the girl with the curls because as 133 00:06:58,959 --> 00:07:02,739 the studios didn't promote them they 134 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:05,379 knew if they promoted them that they 135 00:07:02,740 --> 00:07:07,749 would have to pay them more Pickford 136 00:07:05,379 --> 00:07:10,930 really changed that personally she and 137 00:07:07,749 --> 00:07:13,270 her mother invented stardom and the 138 00:07:10,930 --> 00:07:14,620 percentage deal the movie makes so much 139 00:07:13,269 --> 00:07:18,068 money I make so much money 140 00:07:14,620 --> 00:07:21,129 unheard of unsinkable and she married 141 00:07:18,069 --> 00:07:25,449 Douglas Fairbanks who on the male side 142 00:07:21,129 --> 00:07:27,759 did the same thing back when Hollywood 143 00:07:25,449 --> 00:07:29,288 was in its golden age it was glamorous 144 00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:30,848 and beautiful and mysterious and you 145 00:07:29,288 --> 00:07:33,728 wondered how they live and if they did a 146 00:07:30,848 --> 00:07:36,908 spread in somebody's house was just so 147 00:07:33,728 --> 00:07:40,418 special and now it's we're so exposed 148 00:07:36,908 --> 00:07:42,550 there's no mystery today celebrity is an 149 00:07:40,418 --> 00:07:44,558 industry and in every industry you have 150 00:07:42,550 --> 00:07:46,749 raw material and the raw material in the 151 00:07:44,559 --> 00:07:49,330 celebrity industry is an actual body an 152 00:07:46,749 --> 00:07:51,849 actual flesh-and-blood person who has 153 00:07:49,329 --> 00:07:54,430 feelings has emotions as a family that 154 00:07:51,848 --> 00:07:56,680 raw material is shaped you have to look 155 00:07:54,430 --> 00:07:58,749 a certain way so they have a stylist and 156 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,848 a publicist and a manager and an agent 157 00:07:58,749 --> 00:08:02,830 that helped form the raw material into 158 00:08:00,848 --> 00:08:04,329 the finished product 159 00:08:02,829 --> 00:08:06,519 second of all if you have authorized 160 00:08:04,329 --> 00:08:08,560 Felicity things that was celebrity and 161 00:08:06,519 --> 00:08:10,389 his or her publicist have decided will 162 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,519 become part of this person's image 163 00:08:10,389 --> 00:08:13,839 interviews magazine covers the actual 164 00:08:12,519 --> 00:08:16,120 films the products in which the star 165 00:08:13,839 --> 00:08:18,310 appears and then you have unauthorized 166 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:21,280 publicity such as paparazzi photography 167 00:08:18,310 --> 00:08:23,079 and gossip unsanctioned but at the same 168 00:08:21,279 --> 00:08:27,039 time it still contributes to the 169 00:08:23,079 --> 00:08:30,339 formation of image next media takes this 170 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,990 image and gives it to the consumer as 171 00:08:30,339 --> 00:08:33,970 far as outlets there's print there's 172 00:08:31,990 --> 00:08:35,590 television and there's online so some of 173 00:08:33,970 --> 00:08:36,970 the authorized outlets would be people 174 00:08:35,590 --> 00:08:39,070 Entertainment Tonight 175 00:08:36,970 --> 00:08:42,210 extra Access Hollywood and then it 176 00:08:39,070 --> 00:08:44,590 starts website or a source fanclub 177 00:08:42,210 --> 00:08:46,480 unauthorized and print we have in touch 178 00:08:44,590 --> 00:08:48,820 and life in style there's gossip blogs 179 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:51,879 like TMZ Perez Hilton delisted and 180 00:08:48,820 --> 00:08:52,870 Gawker so bottom line all these 181 00:08:51,879 --> 00:08:54,610 different players they're all 182 00:08:52,870 --> 00:08:56,820 interconnected and symbiotic on one 183 00:08:54,610 --> 00:08:56,820 another 184 00:09:03,589 --> 00:09:17,999 watch the cars behind you guys have a 185 00:09:05,999 --> 00:09:20,970 great day and she sells Oh usually they 186 00:09:17,999 --> 00:09:25,339 run white to 5,500 truthfully usually 187 00:09:20,970 --> 00:09:27,899 they're $5,250 it's as much as 250,000 188 00:09:25,339 --> 00:09:30,480 you may get nothing today but you may 189 00:09:27,899 --> 00:09:40,230 come today or tomorrow and make more in 190 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:42,119 one day than most making a year the 191 00:09:40,230 --> 00:09:44,278 problem is it has to be the most 192 00:09:42,119 --> 00:09:46,559 audacious the most outrageous the most 193 00:09:44,278 --> 00:09:49,499 intrusive behavior may get the most 194 00:09:46,558 --> 00:09:51,298 saleable shot the agencies are trying to 195 00:09:49,499 --> 00:09:53,699 get that to sell them to magazines or 196 00:09:51,298 --> 00:09:55,318 video outlets that will pay money for it 197 00:09:53,698 --> 00:09:56,519 and the public buys the magazines or 198 00:09:55,318 --> 00:09:58,818 watches the show so it's that whole 199 00:09:56,519 --> 00:09:58,818 cycle 200 00:10:05,399 --> 00:10:09,480 what a game is to provoke a reaction 201 00:10:11,549 --> 00:10:16,059 best thing that happened is somebody 202 00:10:13,750 --> 00:10:17,980 think you swing at them you know or 203 00:10:16,059 --> 00:10:21,279 start pushing with screaming that's a 204 00:10:17,980 --> 00:10:22,779 better shot it's more money they usually 205 00:10:21,279 --> 00:10:24,399 bring up thanks girlfriend's ex-wife's 206 00:10:22,779 --> 00:10:25,529 they say stuff not Pam or it's not too 207 00:10:24,399 --> 00:10:27,970 much they can really say to get my goat 208 00:10:25,529 --> 00:10:28,839 it's more invading your space getting in 209 00:10:27,970 --> 00:10:30,550 your face you're like wait a minute I 210 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,830 don't know you do you gonna come at me 211 00:10:30,549 --> 00:10:34,479 and try to get a reaction 212 00:10:31,830 --> 00:10:35,530 there's my reaction we're all good I've 213 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,230 given them one or two of those in my 214 00:10:35,529 --> 00:10:39,720 time but now you just have to know that 215 00:10:38,230 --> 00:10:42,129 that's the photograph that they want and 216 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:48,879 it's you know you just have to not give 217 00:10:42,129 --> 00:10:50,799 it to them Oh worse this or that and if 218 00:10:48,879 --> 00:10:53,159 they do provoke you they have one and 219 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:55,389 you have lost me on the other hand yeah 220 00:10:53,159 --> 00:10:58,809 mark doesn't have as much of a tolerance 221 00:10:55,389 --> 00:11:04,389 for that stuff so we try not to put them 222 00:10:58,809 --> 00:11:05,949 in those situations they kind of want 223 00:11:04,389 --> 00:11:07,539 Lindsay Lohan to have meltdown in public 224 00:11:05,950 --> 00:11:09,310 so they've got their photograph this 225 00:11:07,539 --> 00:11:11,230 week in a celebrity spotlight we view 226 00:11:09,309 --> 00:11:12,339 Lohan is Yael Balan I mean oh no half 227 00:11:11,230 --> 00:11:14,460 the time she gives them the thing they 228 00:11:12,340 --> 00:11:16,810 want and it's very sad because it's like 229 00:11:14,460 --> 00:11:18,490 this guy was a good actress she had 230 00:11:16,809 --> 00:11:21,609 talent she made records you know and now 231 00:11:18,490 --> 00:11:22,389 it's kind of she's become their toy and 232 00:11:21,610 --> 00:11:24,730 it's frightening 233 00:11:22,389 --> 00:11:29,169 there is a uniquely American sport 234 00:11:24,730 --> 00:11:31,930 called grandest side we build someone up 235 00:11:29,169 --> 00:11:33,639 to spectacular heights in order to tear 236 00:11:31,929 --> 00:11:35,019 them down it's a vicious cycle they you 237 00:11:33,639 --> 00:11:38,529 build up you break it down next to this 238 00:11:35,019 --> 00:11:40,059 person coming back again let's break 239 00:11:38,529 --> 00:11:41,860 them down again they don't need to sit 240 00:11:40,059 --> 00:11:43,719 back and watch I know it's only a couple 241 00:11:41,860 --> 00:11:46,050 days in but they say it's gonna go 242 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,050 number one 243 00:11:56,799 --> 00:12:01,329 that moment of her just looking in the 244 00:11:59,059 --> 00:12:04,159 camera shaving her head was such an 245 00:12:01,330 --> 00:12:06,020 powerful moment it was like fuck you guy 246 00:12:04,159 --> 00:12:08,809 there was something about it but that 247 00:12:06,019 --> 00:12:11,419 was just fuck you you know I mean she 248 00:12:08,809 --> 00:12:12,949 had enough she broke in front of us all 249 00:12:11,419 --> 00:12:14,240 of our eyes and then they that people 250 00:12:12,950 --> 00:12:16,190 captured that but it was really sad to 251 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,440 me people used to be able to develop 252 00:12:16,190 --> 00:12:20,240 kind of quietly and if they made 253 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,520 mistakes the whole world didn't know 254 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,440 about them Nicky we don't know how lucky 255 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:27,350 we are that snot the way it is anymore 256 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,730 now really horrible behavior and people 257 00:12:27,350 --> 00:12:31,399 who are definitely in trouble and need 258 00:12:28,730 --> 00:12:34,720 help are often just seen as people who 259 00:12:31,399 --> 00:12:34,720 are supposed to entertain you 260 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,330 our celebrity images are supposed to be 261 00:12:39,259 --> 00:12:42,799 seamless but when those cracks open I 262 00:12:41,330 --> 00:12:44,360 mean it's kind of dirty but it's also 263 00:12:42,799 --> 00:12:45,529 fascinating I don't want a dragon skull 264 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,330 miss Charlie Sheen but then you know if 265 00:12:45,529 --> 00:12:49,069 the Crocs open too wide there's nothing 266 00:12:47,330 --> 00:12:50,840 left you borrow my marine for five 267 00:12:49,070 --> 00:12:53,750 seconds and just be like dude handling 268 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:56,450 the treatment he's an absolute madness 269 00:12:53,750 --> 00:12:59,110 okay you know you shouldn't look but 270 00:12:56,450 --> 00:12:59,110 you're just curious 271 00:13:03,879 --> 00:13:08,710 come on mr. P I'm Darrin lions mr. 272 00:13:06,340 --> 00:13:11,110 pepper RT and this is my mini-me mr. P 273 00:13:08,710 --> 00:13:12,670 I've started as a news photographer on a 274 00:13:11,110 --> 00:13:17,440 local paper but my passion was certainly 275 00:13:12,669 --> 00:13:19,839 gita' graffiti a lot of the world 276 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,970 looking from the outside in live really 277 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,350 this interesting lives and I think that 278 00:13:21,970 --> 00:13:25,690 is what's captured the culture of 279 00:13:23,350 --> 00:13:27,370 celebrity today I'm a true believer in 280 00:13:25,690 --> 00:13:29,020 the image you know I've been to Bosnia 281 00:13:27,370 --> 00:13:29,860 on the front line getting shot out in 282 00:13:29,019 --> 00:13:31,689 Full Metal Jacket 283 00:13:29,860 --> 00:13:33,159 I've won Press photographer for the year 284 00:13:31,690 --> 00:13:34,510 in the United Kingdom two years in a row 285 00:13:33,159 --> 00:13:35,919 I won all the awards you could imagine 286 00:13:34,509 --> 00:13:37,600 being a photographer the fact that 287 00:13:35,919 --> 00:13:40,629 matter is you know awards don't pay the 288 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:42,879 mortgage I sought celebrity as being the 289 00:13:40,629 --> 00:13:45,070 huge moment of the future we've missed 290 00:13:42,879 --> 00:13:47,019 the paparazzi calm I embraced it and i'm 291 00:13:45,070 --> 00:13:49,000 still embracing it celebrity isn't going 292 00:13:47,019 --> 00:13:50,039 to go away it's been around since time 293 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,720 began 294 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:54,669 he don't Julius Caesar was famous and 295 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,490 Napoleon was famous but they were famous 296 00:13:54,669 --> 00:13:59,559 in different ways Yuki's the mass media 297 00:13:57,490 --> 00:14:01,060 it had taken Napoleon a lifetime to 298 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,059 become famous it took Charlie Chaplin a 299 00:14:01,059 --> 00:14:07,119 month one day he was nobody and months 300 00:14:04,059 --> 00:14:08,819 later he was known in the deepest 301 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,960 jungles of Africa 302 00:14:08,820 --> 00:14:13,720 he couldn't appear in public without a 303 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:17,310 mob coming around him and he had to 304 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,310 invent strategies to deal with that 305 00:14:36,009 --> 00:14:40,730 celebrity today means anyone who's 306 00:14:38,659 --> 00:14:42,019 famous now you can be famous young guy 307 00:14:40,730 --> 00:14:46,129 who was in a balloon and floated across 308 00:14:42,019 --> 00:15:05,269 the country is it that a star is Jeffrey 309 00:14:46,129 --> 00:15:06,799 Dahmer a star historically the American 310 00:15:05,269 --> 00:15:08,899 Dream meant that anyone could come to 311 00:15:06,799 --> 00:15:10,839 America and through hard work could own 312 00:15:08,899 --> 00:15:13,009 a home and provide for their family 313 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,290 now if the American Dream is really 314 00:15:13,009 --> 00:15:16,789 transformed into anyone can become a 315 00:15:15,289 --> 00:15:18,319 celebrity say something with that great 316 00:15:16,789 --> 00:15:23,449 radio voice when you're listening to 317 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:25,040 nothing but the best of oldies the way 318 00:15:23,450 --> 00:15:27,410 that people talk about YouTube is that 319 00:15:25,039 --> 00:15:29,919 anyone who puts a video on YouTube can 320 00:15:27,409 --> 00:15:32,299 become famous 321 00:15:29,919 --> 00:15:34,699 everyone can deny Justin Bieber a 322 00:15:32,299 --> 00:15:36,079 contract but then because enough people 323 00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:39,410 are interested in him he can still 324 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:41,450 become famous it's this idea that if you 325 00:15:39,409 --> 00:15:43,610 have talent and if you make that tell 326 00:15:41,450 --> 00:15:46,879 invisible and you can be voted in our 327 00:15:43,610 --> 00:15:47,870 democratic society to be a star I think 328 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:50,419 a recent survey of British children 329 00:15:47,870 --> 00:15:52,340 under 15 said they were they want to be 330 00:15:50,419 --> 00:15:53,990 a doctor or a nurse or an architect or a 331 00:15:52,340 --> 00:15:57,430 photographer no they just wanted to be 332 00:15:53,990 --> 00:15:57,430 either rich or famous 333 00:16:07,089 --> 00:16:09,980 because we're not jobs and we don't care 334 00:16:09,078 --> 00:16:12,678 what people think about it I think 335 00:16:09,980 --> 00:16:14,298 that's why everybody loves us in general 336 00:16:12,678 --> 00:16:16,999 a reality celebrity is like a one you 337 00:16:14,298 --> 00:16:19,039 celebrity you pay a little for them but 338 00:16:16,999 --> 00:16:20,569 then you can exploit them until they 339 00:16:19,039 --> 00:16:22,458 disintegrate there are people out there 340 00:16:20,568 --> 00:16:26,659 now there are completely celebrities and 341 00:16:22,458 --> 00:16:28,399 absolutely famous who don't work who 342 00:16:26,659 --> 00:16:32,058 don't even wore them doesn't sell 343 00:16:28,399 --> 00:16:36,980 they have no but there's so scary 344 00:16:32,058 --> 00:16:38,988 I hate reality television I think it's 345 00:16:36,980 --> 00:16:41,149 the lowest common denominator it's mind 346 00:16:38,989 --> 00:16:43,100 rot to me it numbs my brain and the 347 00:16:41,149 --> 00:16:44,600 people being called celebrities and have 348 00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:47,239 their own reality shows I'll kill them 349 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,709 tell me you won't regret it I think what 350 00:16:47,239 --> 00:16:50,149 people misunderstand is that we're in 351 00:16:48,708 --> 00:16:51,738 the entertainment industry we're not 352 00:16:50,149 --> 00:16:53,089 these serious people and everyone's just 353 00:16:51,739 --> 00:16:54,980 gotten so used to all these actors 354 00:16:53,089 --> 00:16:57,049 taking themselves so seriously when it's 355 00:16:54,980 --> 00:17:00,619 really just a joke industry is mostly 356 00:16:57,048 --> 00:17:01,970 fun there's nothing wrong with the Kevin 357 00:17:00,619 --> 00:17:04,639 Garnett all of those people if that's 358 00:17:01,970 --> 00:17:07,669 how they choose to make a living more 359 00:17:04,638 --> 00:17:09,859 power to them it's not my my my line of 360 00:17:07,669 --> 00:17:14,059 work is is different I wanted to 361 00:17:09,859 --> 00:17:16,698 entertain people reality TV is in a way 362 00:17:14,058 --> 00:17:19,099 the new vaudeville there's nothing real 363 00:17:16,699 --> 00:17:21,558 about reality TV people are led to 364 00:17:19,099 --> 00:17:25,418 believe that it's real and it's it's the 365 00:17:21,558 --> 00:17:25,418 big lie there's nothing real about it 366 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:48,509 I'll tell you the first time it bothered 367 00:17:45,630 --> 00:17:50,280 me I walked out of my house I wanted to 368 00:17:48,509 --> 00:17:54,450 go and get my mother-in-law a birthday 369 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:55,740 present and I walked out and for the 370 00:17:54,450 --> 00:17:58,259 first time ever there were all these 371 00:17:55,740 --> 00:18:00,509 photographers outside and I my first 372 00:17:58,259 --> 00:18:02,789 instinct curiously enough because we're 373 00:18:00,509 --> 00:18:04,558 kind of all animals basically it was to 374 00:18:02,789 --> 00:18:06,599 run but then I got scared to run because 375 00:18:04,558 --> 00:18:08,339 I was pregnant and I didn't trust the 376 00:18:06,599 --> 00:18:11,939 streets of New York to like be my ally 377 00:18:08,339 --> 00:18:13,558 and I started crying and I said to the 378 00:18:11,940 --> 00:18:14,250 photographer's please don't chase me I'm 379 00:18:13,558 --> 00:18:16,740 pregnant 380 00:18:14,250 --> 00:18:18,960 please don't chase me and they kept 381 00:18:16,740 --> 00:18:20,279 following me and I went into a building 382 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,220 I saw a doorman and a building and I 383 00:18:20,279 --> 00:18:24,990 said to him he said okay can can I come 384 00:18:23,220 --> 00:18:26,850 in your building and he took me down to 385 00:18:24,990 --> 00:18:30,000 the garage and there was a couple and 386 00:18:26,849 --> 00:18:32,298 they were on a motorcycle and they saw 387 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,470 me crying and she and I traded clothing 388 00:18:32,298 --> 00:18:35,849 everything from head to toe and I got on 389 00:18:34,470 --> 00:18:37,289 the back of her her boyfriend's 390 00:18:35,849 --> 00:18:39,569 motorcycle and she walked out of my 391 00:18:37,289 --> 00:18:41,428 clothes and he took me elsewhere and 392 00:18:39,569 --> 00:18:44,990 dropped me off but it's just gotten 393 00:18:41,429 --> 00:18:44,990 exponentially worse ever since then 394 00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:57,990 out of my way that's all waiting for 395 00:18:56,058 --> 00:18:59,548 somewhere 396 00:18:57,990 --> 00:19:01,499 the Bob brought to you life is like the 397 00:18:59,548 --> 00:19:03,210 lottery you might want to take a day off 398 00:19:01,499 --> 00:19:07,769 but that might be the day when something 399 00:19:03,210 --> 00:19:09,450 major happens then put your powers away 400 00:19:07,769 --> 00:19:11,730 I start off very early in the morning 401 00:19:09,450 --> 00:19:13,139 and I go late at night and I try to do 402 00:19:11,730 --> 00:19:15,058 it six days a week if not seven days a 403 00:19:13,138 --> 00:19:17,548 week it would be that a celebrity 404 00:19:15,058 --> 00:19:20,638 reindeer come on bring him in free of 405 00:19:17,548 --> 00:19:22,440 embryo man I love what I do because I 406 00:19:20,638 --> 00:19:23,788 get to drive up and down the streets of 407 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,919 my favorite city in the world miss 408 00:19:23,788 --> 00:19:29,638 Angeles California interrupts with 409 00:19:25,919 --> 00:19:31,288 celebrities tourists I can take a day 410 00:19:29,638 --> 00:19:33,949 off I want I'm my own boss I've no 411 00:19:31,288 --> 00:19:33,950 answer to 412 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:48,889 you know made you better Bellucci so no 413 00:19:45,049 --> 00:19:55,039 not aroma multi amoeba universal mr. 414 00:19:48,890 --> 00:19:59,470 photographer chinko dr. BM o KR don't go 415 00:19:55,039 --> 00:19:59,470 see Tamara photography the South though 416 00:20:03,250 --> 00:20:07,880 they would work together in teams of two 417 00:20:05,509 --> 00:20:10,579 one of the photographer's would 418 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,530 aggravate the celebrity that they were 419 00:20:10,579 --> 00:20:14,750 shooting start some kind of 420 00:20:12,529 --> 00:20:22,149 confrontation so that the other one 421 00:20:14,750 --> 00:20:26,599 could take the photo came under 422 00:20:22,150 --> 00:20:29,590 paparazzi you know mean been Dada you 423 00:20:26,599 --> 00:20:29,589 can go CDs and other 424 00:20:31,609 --> 00:20:38,029 to Tennessee she's India ramekin Fellini 425 00:20:35,210 --> 00:20:40,429 much anniversary on Isabella goes away a 426 00:20:38,029 --> 00:20:42,740 de facto ology not even send at the 427 00:20:40,429 --> 00:20:46,090 brain very good in everything they are 428 00:20:42,740 --> 00:20:50,470 denoted wonderful support la dolce vita 429 00:20:46,089 --> 00:20:54,019 inlay product Lisa photographer female 430 00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:55,039 for that you know me parapodia come on 431 00:20:54,019 --> 00:20:58,720 Roberto 432 00:20:55,039 --> 00:21:05,599 Antonio Franco like yo Chris oh no me 433 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:08,140 paparazzi the advent of the paparazzi 434 00:21:05,599 --> 00:21:11,029 took on a whole different nastiness 435 00:21:08,140 --> 00:21:13,730 paparazzi were I'll get you at any cost 436 00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:16,819 and I'll get it if it means killing you 437 00:21:13,730 --> 00:21:19,150 and the competition among them was so 438 00:21:16,819 --> 00:21:19,149 fierce 439 00:21:24,190 --> 00:21:30,048 Ron Coelho was probably the first 440 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:32,000 well-known paparazzi who everyday woke 441 00:21:30,048 --> 00:21:34,579 up and decided to focus his lens on 442 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,869 Jackie Kennedy no matter what she was 443 00:21:34,579 --> 00:21:37,869 doing or where she was 444 00:21:45,349 --> 00:21:51,119 hey you just been good to run because he 445 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,819 got a lot of very bad press he was seen 446 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:56,159 to be you know parasite his photography 447 00:21:53,819 --> 00:21:58,109 is now being collected by serious 448 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,880 photography collectors but you know when 449 00:21:58,109 --> 00:22:06,209 Rob was working it was completely 450 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:07,320 different from the way it is now getting 451 00:22:06,210 --> 00:22:11,039 a picture taken 452 00:22:07,319 --> 00:22:14,220 went from something where you felt that 453 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:15,750 somebody was honoring you a part of you 454 00:22:14,220 --> 00:22:18,960 your work your beauty your youth 455 00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:21,150 something to a hunt 456 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:23,460 and most of the time instead of 457 00:22:21,150 --> 00:22:26,100 celebrating something about you a lot of 458 00:22:23,460 --> 00:22:30,720 the times trying to find something wrong 459 00:22:26,099 --> 00:22:33,569 with you a bad shot of Lindsey doe Anna 460 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,309 I must to get a shot she's doing good 461 00:22:33,569 --> 00:22:37,019 I'm taking a good shot if she's doing 462 00:22:35,309 --> 00:22:40,339 bad well in her eyes I'm taking a bad 463 00:22:37,019 --> 00:22:40,339 shot to meet still the shot 464 00:22:43,970 --> 00:22:49,899 you're not the Brutus people I've ever 465 00:22:45,950 --> 00:22:49,899 met thank you no wonder people come up 466 00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:55,429 you know they use this as it goes 467 00:22:53,599 --> 00:22:56,449 Oh paparazzi bad well you take the 468 00:22:55,429 --> 00:22:58,038 picture and they wrote about it but you 469 00:22:56,450 --> 00:22:59,450 shouldn't take the picture well okay but 470 00:22:58,038 --> 00:23:00,619 they still sold magazines and you still 471 00:22:59,450 --> 00:23:02,028 read it yeah I got a question do you 472 00:23:00,619 --> 00:23:08,569 think the people hate more than fucking 473 00:23:02,028 --> 00:23:09,740 important for the paparazzi I think it's 474 00:23:08,569 --> 00:23:11,928 really easy to blame the paparazzi 475 00:23:09,740 --> 00:23:13,339 because their actual bodies right there 476 00:23:11,929 --> 00:23:14,990 that we can pinpoint eyes the cause 477 00:23:13,339 --> 00:23:17,209 there are photos of the paparazzi 478 00:23:14,990 --> 00:23:18,558 getting in the celebrities faces whereas 479 00:23:17,210 --> 00:23:20,120 the writers and editors completely 480 00:23:18,558 --> 00:23:20,658 unseen you certainly don't want to blame 481 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,109 ourselves 482 00:23:20,659 --> 00:23:25,399 I think the paparazzi has a place 40% of 483 00:23:24,109 --> 00:23:27,740 many of the magazines have paparazzi 484 00:23:25,398 --> 00:23:42,829 photos they're an important part of the 485 00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:43,940 industry I'm in a doctor's office and 486 00:23:42,829 --> 00:23:45,349 they're all there and there's no men 487 00:23:43,940 --> 00:23:49,580 around me that's the one I'll go for a 488 00:23:45,349 --> 00:24:00,439 first either ok or us before Sports 489 00:23:49,579 --> 00:24:02,028 Illustrated there's a controversy like 490 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,370 an argument between people and I know 491 00:24:02,028 --> 00:24:07,388 it's gonna be like ongoing that's a good 492 00:24:04,369 --> 00:24:07,388 gossip basically 493 00:24:20,058 --> 00:24:25,918 confidential those behind the headlines 494 00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:29,038 for its stories stories early feel I 495 00:24:25,919 --> 00:24:30,538 feel the public should know Robert 496 00:24:29,038 --> 00:24:31,950 Harrison published kind of topics in 497 00:24:30,538 --> 00:24:34,288 magazines out of his apartment in the 498 00:24:31,950 --> 00:24:37,159 1940s and then he started confidential 499 00:24:34,288 --> 00:24:37,158 in the 1950s 500 00:24:40,490 --> 00:24:45,558 confidential basically made what had to 501 00:24:43,099 --> 00:24:47,990 that point than unspeakable speakable so 502 00:24:45,558 --> 00:24:51,759 women's sexuality having relationships 503 00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:51,759 between races even homosexuality 504 00:24:51,970 --> 00:24:55,999 confidential was operating entirely 505 00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:57,378 outside of the system and had no qualms 506 00:24:55,999 --> 00:24:59,298 about reporting on these sorts of things 507 00:24:57,378 --> 00:25:01,038 some of the stories were outrageous I 508 00:24:59,298 --> 00:25:02,599 you know I boiled my baby in the oven 509 00:25:01,038 --> 00:25:04,158 this morning and things like that I mean 510 00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:06,709 terrible things and there were people 511 00:25:04,159 --> 00:25:08,720 who believed it and all damage control 512 00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:10,700 was just ignored just it'll go away and 513 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,919 most of the time it did the outlaw 514 00:25:10,700 --> 00:25:14,778 magazines took advantage of the fact 515 00:25:12,919 --> 00:25:17,990 that they were secrets that they could 516 00:25:14,778 --> 00:25:20,240 basically use as blackmail the classic 517 00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:22,190 story of course was the story about rock 518 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,169 Hudson's homosexuality which 519 00:25:22,190 --> 00:25:26,840 confidential had absolute evidence of 520 00:25:24,169 --> 00:25:30,830 and they said give us an exclusive story 521 00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:33,589 and we won't print it so the studio took 522 00:25:30,829 --> 00:25:36,710 a much lesser actor who was also gay and 523 00:25:33,589 --> 00:25:41,089 they sacrificed him pretty sleazy stuff 524 00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:43,190 but it was business confidential 525 00:25:41,089 --> 00:25:44,928 became extremely popular in a very short 526 00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:47,028 amount of time I mean upwards of five 527 00:25:44,929 --> 00:25:48,590 million copies a month out of sight but 528 00:25:47,028 --> 00:25:50,388 all of these stars including Maureen 529 00:25:48,589 --> 00:25:51,918 O'Hara and Liberace and Dorothy 530 00:25:50,388 --> 00:25:53,118 Dandridge filed suit against 531 00:25:51,919 --> 00:25:56,269 confidential for the various things that 532 00:25:53,118 --> 00:25:58,158 were said about them Robert Harrison 533 00:25:56,269 --> 00:25:59,929 agreed to basically stop covering the 534 00:25:58,159 --> 00:26:01,879 Stars and then the stars in the studios 535 00:25:59,929 --> 00:26:03,679 would stop suing him so he sold it off I 536 00:26:01,878 --> 00:26:06,699 think it's a part of Americana I think 537 00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:06,700 it's gonna live long after I'm gone 538 00:26:10,890 --> 00:26:14,630 they're so funny I mean you know you're 539 00:26:13,319 --> 00:26:17,009 never gonna get the ball looking at ya 540 00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:18,390 looking for all those sort of fun little 541 00:26:17,009 --> 00:26:19,829 behind-the-scenes kind of images that 542 00:26:18,390 --> 00:26:21,120 are gonna make a reader feel like that 543 00:26:19,829 --> 00:26:22,408 they were really there someone's 544 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,788 stepping on someone's trained someone 545 00:26:22,409 --> 00:26:25,169 greeting someone saying hi 546 00:26:23,788 --> 00:26:27,569 nicole kidman Keith Urban going out on 547 00:26:25,169 --> 00:26:29,399 their date night things like that from 548 00:26:27,569 --> 00:26:30,658 this we pick a few hundred pictures and 549 00:26:29,398 --> 00:26:32,009 I would say in terms of our space in the 550 00:26:30,659 --> 00:26:34,399 magazine we have room for six 551 00:26:32,009 --> 00:26:36,720 consecutive pages of award show coverage 552 00:26:34,398 --> 00:26:38,069 now something really juicy happens at 553 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,569 the show never know I could get a cover 554 00:26:38,069 --> 00:26:41,089 story out of it or it could go to the 555 00:26:39,569 --> 00:26:43,710 hot stuff section and be a gossip item 556 00:26:41,089 --> 00:26:45,178 Mila Kunis looked amazing so he might 557 00:26:43,710 --> 00:26:46,528 write a full-length dress shot of her in 558 00:26:45,179 --> 00:26:47,850 which case we can't necessarily run 559 00:26:46,528 --> 00:26:49,200 another picture of her inside with 560 00:26:47,849 --> 00:26:53,869 Natalie Portman even though it's really 561 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,870 cute so it's really just a giant puzzle 562 00:26:55,099 --> 00:27:00,388 it was launched in the 1970s to compete 563 00:26:57,990 --> 00:27:02,579 with people who a magazine was first 564 00:27:00,388 --> 00:27:04,709 published in 1974 one of the first 565 00:27:02,579 --> 00:27:06,839 issues had Gerald Ford not like in his 566 00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:08,788 suit in the White House he's in a pool 567 00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:10,888 and his shirt is off so it's really 568 00:27:08,788 --> 00:27:12,658 trying to give this intimate look into 569 00:27:10,888 --> 00:27:14,750 these different personalities lives it 570 00:27:12,659 --> 00:27:16,860 was a tremendous success immediately 571 00:27:14,750 --> 00:27:17,970 last week it was actually published by 572 00:27:16,859 --> 00:27:20,250 the New York Times company originally 573 00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:22,409 and eventually sold it to young Grenier 574 00:27:20,250 --> 00:27:24,720 the founders are rolling stone it has 575 00:27:22,409 --> 00:27:26,940 been a monthly a bi-weekly and weekly 576 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,950 they have changed its format its tone 577 00:27:26,940 --> 00:27:31,169 who they're covering he tried everything 578 00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:33,559 and none of it worked but seems like 579 00:27:31,169 --> 00:27:36,410 people was invincible 580 00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:38,149 around 2002 Bonnie fuller took over Us 581 00:27:36,410 --> 00:27:39,950 Weekly and she changed the face of 582 00:27:38,150 --> 00:27:41,360 celebrity reporting a lot of the 583 00:27:39,950 --> 00:27:43,580 magazines would feature these glamorous 584 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,919 shots of celebrities and at the time 585 00:27:43,579 --> 00:27:47,539 Us Weekly wasn't doing that well and so 586 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,370 the only photos that Us Weekly could 587 00:27:47,539 --> 00:27:51,319 afford were those shots that magazines 588 00:27:49,369 --> 00:27:53,059 wouldn't print I was interested in 589 00:27:51,319 --> 00:27:54,740 celebrities being glamorous but then I 590 00:27:53,059 --> 00:27:57,200 also wanted to see the human side of 591 00:27:54,740 --> 00:28:09,049 them too and so we created a section 592 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:10,309 called stars are just like us lovey was 593 00:28:09,049 --> 00:28:12,680 picking out their garbage picking up 594 00:28:10,309 --> 00:28:15,349 their kids it was a home run for us I 595 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,539 guess I was a pioneer because it was the 596 00:28:15,349 --> 00:28:20,659 first time if that paparazzi photos had 597 00:28:17,539 --> 00:28:23,240 been presented that way she definitely 598 00:28:20,660 --> 00:28:27,110 has the good hair and then the pretty 599 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:29,390 and hello know who it is 600 00:28:27,109 --> 00:28:30,979 and you know kind of become the expert 601 00:28:29,390 --> 00:28:33,410 and the insider so we want to always 602 00:28:30,980 --> 00:28:35,630 give that that's one of the reasons why 603 00:28:33,410 --> 00:28:37,070 they come here to Us Weekly the way that 604 00:28:35,630 --> 00:28:38,090 we lay it out it always does feel like 605 00:28:37,069 --> 00:28:40,899 you were like a member of the party 606 00:28:38,089 --> 00:28:40,899 there and they loved it 607 00:29:00,460 --> 00:29:04,190 you know if this thing is elite possible 608 00:29:02,509 --> 00:29:08,299 didn't I'll take it it's not it's to 609 00:29:04,190 --> 00:29:11,840 keep in a hole is that nowhere well then 610 00:29:08,299 --> 00:29:14,599 I'm using it probably there I'm against 611 00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:16,759 humanity not sore throat right anyways 612 00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:18,889 when Bonnie and I work together as 613 00:29:16,759 --> 00:29:20,240 editors at Us Weekly I broke the story 614 00:29:18,890 --> 00:29:22,220 of that Britney Spears and Justin 615 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,420 Timberlake had broken up and then the 616 00:29:22,220 --> 00:29:25,610 next week we had a follow up to that 617 00:29:23,420 --> 00:29:27,350 story and we created these soap operas 618 00:29:25,609 --> 00:29:29,569 there was a time when I was on the 619 00:29:27,349 --> 00:29:33,129 tabloids every week for maybe two years 620 00:29:29,569 --> 00:29:33,129 straight to everything in a soap opera 621 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,750 if you're in a relationship and you're 622 00:29:39,069 --> 00:29:42,339 in the tabloids all the time it's like 623 00:29:40,750 --> 00:29:43,240 well maybe that part was true maybe it 624 00:29:42,339 --> 00:29:44,619 wasn't then all of a sudden you're a 625 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,120 victim too believing what they're saying 626 00:29:44,619 --> 00:29:47,859 and what they're writing gossip is 627 00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:50,408 itself just as much of a product as a 628 00:29:47,859 --> 00:29:53,278 movie is actual people's lives are 629 00:29:50,409 --> 00:29:56,049 turned into a story for us to consume 630 00:29:53,278 --> 00:29:57,519 for example with a love triangle pose 631 00:29:56,048 --> 00:29:59,888 Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie and 632 00:29:57,519 --> 00:30:01,240 Jennifer Aniston and also with Liz 633 00:29:59,888 --> 00:30:05,769 Taylor and Eddie Fisher and Debbie 634 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:07,419 Reynolds in 1958 each of the people in 635 00:30:05,769 --> 00:30:09,940 both of these situations was given a 636 00:30:07,419 --> 00:30:11,288 role to play the temptress the innocent 637 00:30:09,940 --> 00:30:13,659 man in the middle and then the victim 638 00:30:11,288 --> 00:30:15,460 and once Jennifer Aniston was made the 639 00:30:13,659 --> 00:30:17,230 victim it's very difficult for her to 640 00:30:15,460 --> 00:30:19,120 become something else which is the 641 00:30:17,230 --> 00:30:21,610 reason why they're still magazine covers 642 00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:23,018 now years later saying Jennifer Aniston 643 00:30:21,609 --> 00:30:25,509 can't find love Jennifer Aniston can't 644 00:30:23,019 --> 00:30:27,609 get over him because that is still her 645 00:30:25,509 --> 00:30:29,169 role as victim when really she's of 646 00:30:27,609 --> 00:30:30,908 course found happiness and she's dated 647 00:30:29,169 --> 00:30:32,259 other people and whatever but that has 648 00:30:30,909 --> 00:30:34,570 been the role in which she has been 649 00:30:32,259 --> 00:30:36,700 slotted in the early days of Us Weekly 650 00:30:34,569 --> 00:30:38,859 becoming successful People magazine 651 00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:41,860 began to feature more of these breakups 652 00:30:38,859 --> 00:30:44,319 and who's dating whom on us wanted to 653 00:30:41,859 --> 00:30:46,178 scoop people at whatever cost so that 654 00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:48,308 they could claim the exclusive and thus 655 00:30:46,179 --> 00:30:50,169 attract bigger newsstand sales there was 656 00:30:48,308 --> 00:30:52,480 this great photo of Jennifer Lopez 657 00:30:50,169 --> 00:30:55,149 reading Us Weekly and we wanted that 658 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,798 shot but People magazine outbid us all 659 00:30:55,148 --> 00:30:59,079 day I kept going up and up and up and up 660 00:30:56,798 --> 00:31:00,788 and people never published those photos 661 00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:02,319 but they paid tens of thousands of 662 00:31:00,788 --> 00:31:04,269 dollars just so that we couldn't publish 663 00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:06,490 her what happened is that series of 664 00:31:04,269 --> 00:31:08,138 bidding wars for photos under bun fuller 665 00:31:06,490 --> 00:31:10,888 and Janice men after her there really 666 00:31:08,138 --> 00:31:13,298 escalated the photo price for all photos 667 00:31:10,888 --> 00:31:14,949 even small photos inside the magazine 668 00:31:13,298 --> 00:31:17,740 they still wanted to be the only ones 669 00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:19,690 who hadn't it Bonnie fuller flipped the 670 00:31:17,740 --> 00:31:21,190 demand so instead of just tracking the 671 00:31:19,690 --> 00:31:22,870 moments when a star was either doing 672 00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:24,340 something scandalous or doing something 673 00:31:22,869 --> 00:31:27,219 that was absolutely glamorous really on 674 00:31:24,339 --> 00:31:28,898 the paparazzi now needed photos of the 675 00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:30,308 stars doing everything in between which 676 00:31:28,898 --> 00:31:32,759 meant you know near 24 hours 677 00:31:30,308 --> 00:31:32,759 surveillance 678 00:31:39,529 --> 00:31:43,649 once you spot a car you look at the last 679 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,900 three numbers of the license plate to 680 00:31:43,650 --> 00:31:48,690 match with the car Nicky Hilton black 681 00:31:45,900 --> 00:31:50,190 Range Rover oh six nine paparazzi know 682 00:31:48,690 --> 00:31:51,509 all the license-plate numbers they know 683 00:31:50,190 --> 00:31:54,000 all the tailplane numbers of their 684 00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:56,640 planes find out and they call me or take 685 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,440 me back they pay people off valet 686 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:03,060 Parkers the doorman at hot restaurants 687 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:05,450 and clubs they have a network of 688 00:32:03,059 --> 00:32:05,450 informants 689 00:32:26,890 --> 00:32:35,690 Laporte preventability 690 00:32:29,329 --> 00:32:37,039 pull out of that website you know you 691 00:32:35,690 --> 00:32:39,110 see one years to get a deal with one guy 692 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:40,809 in you hope and pray it doesn't start 693 00:32:39,109 --> 00:32:43,339 calling all their friends you know 694 00:32:40,809 --> 00:32:44,329 within 15 minutes there are five other 695 00:32:43,339 --> 00:32:45,919 people through there 696 00:32:44,329 --> 00:32:48,439 let the two guys get the shot and be 697 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,990 done with it but why there has to be 50 698 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,400 people getting the same shot if I saw 699 00:32:50,990 --> 00:32:53,839 someone I want to photograph walk out of 700 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,880 the house I sure as hell wouldn't call 701 00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:56,899 my buddies why not enjoy the entire 702 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,870 piece of steak 703 00:32:56,900 --> 00:33:02,830 why I don't get the whole call friends 704 00:32:59,869 --> 00:33:02,829 and relatives and 705 00:33:04,670 --> 00:33:12,289 it's literally being pursued like prey 706 00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:14,240 like an animal there's no kind of 707 00:33:12,289 --> 00:33:16,849 structure there's no type of regulations 708 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,900 it's just just get that bitch get that 709 00:33:16,849 --> 00:33:19,899 shot I don't care what it takes 710 00:33:22,309 --> 00:33:25,849 they don't care about breaking the law 711 00:33:23,809 --> 00:33:28,490 they'll climb a wall take pictures over 712 00:33:25,849 --> 00:33:31,240 the gate they've done it at my office in 713 00:33:28,490 --> 00:33:32,990 my backyard they do it the helicopter 714 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,670 you're in your backyard and the 715 00:33:32,990 --> 00:33:36,950 helicopters coming that low and you 716 00:33:34,670 --> 00:33:44,660 running in and it's like a stupid game 717 00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:47,990 of have ice tried to reason oh my god 718 00:33:44,660 --> 00:33:50,509 have I tried to reason I have tried to 719 00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:52,460 reason with them I have had talks about 720 00:33:50,509 --> 00:33:54,259 come on new there's better things that 721 00:33:52,460 --> 00:33:55,610 you can do you could you can have you 722 00:33:54,259 --> 00:34:00,430 can achieve your dream I mean it's 723 00:33:55,609 --> 00:34:00,429 stupid it's just gotten out of control 724 00:34:03,150 --> 00:34:08,079 there's certain instances where the 725 00:34:06,099 --> 00:34:11,259 paparazzi's are gonna just over excite 726 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:14,079 themselves cameras get broken 727 00:34:11,260 --> 00:34:19,360 couldn't get her depression they hit the 728 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:23,099 elbows but this is what it's all about 729 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,099 get that shot no matter what 730 00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:33,260 I had a very public relationship that 731 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,209 fell apart and I was diagnosed with 732 00:34:33,260 --> 00:34:37,639 breast cancer and I had never been an 733 00:34:35,210 --> 00:34:39,019 a-list celebrity for I pretty much was 734 00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:40,669 just photographed on red carpets and 735 00:34:39,019 --> 00:34:43,280 maybe the occasional lunch at the ivy 736 00:34:40,668 --> 00:34:45,079 aware but once that happened once I was 737 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,200 diagnosed and I was going through such 738 00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:51,349 unhappiness in such real dark chaos in 739 00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:55,789 my life I couldn't leave my house and it 740 00:34:51,349 --> 00:34:57,799 really made me I guess start to dissect 741 00:34:55,789 --> 00:34:59,389 what it is that would make that's such 742 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,100 an interesting thing to photograph and 743 00:34:59,389 --> 00:35:07,279 is that what sells magazines is seeing 744 00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:09,139 somebody at their lowest a word that has 745 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,240 become absolutely meaningless today is 746 00:35:09,139 --> 00:35:13,969 unspeakable there's nothing that 747 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:16,099 unspeakable anymore you know starters 748 00:35:13,969 --> 00:35:18,679 cellulite they pump gas too they are 749 00:35:16,099 --> 00:35:20,420 still love triangles it's degrading to 750 00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:23,960 women especially the way they showed you 751 00:35:20,420 --> 00:35:28,760 to show women celebrities it's just like 752 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:30,440 I was in Hawaii I wasn't and you know I 753 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,810 have this horrible bikini shot that a 754 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,700 paparazzi got and crap light in a weird 755 00:35:32,809 --> 00:35:36,858 angle and it just it look it's terrible 756 00:35:34,699 --> 00:35:38,210 and and and it was everywhere and they 757 00:35:36,858 --> 00:35:40,130 did everything to just make me look like 758 00:35:38,210 --> 00:35:42,500 I was just this peach droid with 759 00:35:40,130 --> 00:35:44,630 cellulite fine it was just so bad and I 760 00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:47,239 was like oh my god do I look like this I 761 00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:48,680 have a little girl I don't read this in 762 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,899 front of her I don't really read any of 763 00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:52,219 my magazines and find my daughter 764 00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:54,019 because I'm I don't want her to get that 765 00:35:52,219 --> 00:35:55,939 bad body image at such a young age and 766 00:35:54,019 --> 00:35:57,858 it happens really young like I've had 767 00:35:55,940 --> 00:35:59,480 little girls as a teacher so I mean have 768 00:35:57,858 --> 00:36:02,809 fed at four years old where are you 769 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,369 getting this from I think the magazines 770 00:36:02,809 --> 00:36:08,119 and the media are the catechol that's 771 00:36:04,369 --> 00:36:10,789 the the breeding ground for them whether 772 00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:12,829 it be people us InStyle glamour both 773 00:36:10,789 --> 00:36:13,690 they all portray women as this 774 00:36:12,829 --> 00:36:16,690 untouchable 775 00:36:13,690 --> 00:36:16,690 goal 776 00:36:34,630 --> 00:36:41,088 you can create the illusion that someone 777 00:36:37,458 --> 00:36:42,469 is a normal ordinary person in other 778 00:36:41,088 --> 00:36:44,328 words you don't Crawford vacuums their 779 00:36:42,469 --> 00:36:47,568 own house or she has the perfect family 780 00:36:44,329 --> 00:36:50,719 or you can create the illusion that 781 00:36:47,568 --> 00:36:54,949 their aloof aristocratic goddesses but 782 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:57,818 control was the name of the game and the 783 00:36:54,949 --> 00:37:00,528 whole apparatus grew up around that need 784 00:36:57,818 --> 00:37:03,528 the studio system determined which 785 00:37:00,528 --> 00:37:05,958 movies the stars would appear in it also 786 00:37:03,528 --> 00:37:08,659 determined where they would live what 787 00:37:05,958 --> 00:37:12,708 cars they would drive and in certain 788 00:37:08,659 --> 00:37:15,078 cases who they would marry it also 789 00:37:12,708 --> 00:37:17,958 provided them with protection all of the 790 00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:20,599 images came through the studio's 791 00:37:17,958 --> 00:37:22,969 publicity Department so if you were 792 00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:25,519 running a fan magazine and you ran a 793 00:37:22,969 --> 00:37:27,469 photograph which was unflattering that 794 00:37:25,518 --> 00:37:30,108 was it you didn't get another photograph 795 00:37:27,469 --> 00:37:31,278 not only at that star but of all of the 796 00:37:30,108 --> 00:37:35,748 other stars that were working for that 797 00:37:31,278 --> 00:37:38,028 particular studio if one of their stars 798 00:37:35,748 --> 00:37:39,768 was involved in a scandal the studio 799 00:37:38,028 --> 00:37:42,739 would wash right in and do damage 800 00:37:39,768 --> 00:37:44,478 control it could be hushed up so the 801 00:37:42,739 --> 00:37:48,019 control that that time was firmly 802 00:37:44,478 --> 00:37:50,389 meeting she's not the case anymore the 803 00:37:48,018 --> 00:37:52,578 mainstream media can say we won't report 804 00:37:50,389 --> 00:37:54,469 about X Y or Z and it's still going to 805 00:37:52,579 --> 00:37:56,839 be widely known because so many are 806 00:37:54,469 --> 00:37:59,119 reporting it on the Internet so the kind 807 00:37:56,838 --> 00:38:01,190 of control that celebrities and their 808 00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:03,318 managers and their Studios used to have 809 00:38:01,190 --> 00:38:05,708 over their images simply does not exist 810 00:38:03,318 --> 00:38:05,708 anymore 811 00:38:06,728 --> 00:38:11,028 TMZ is not about getting the next Tom 812 00:38:08,869 --> 00:38:12,219 Cruise interview it's just not and so I 813 00:38:11,028 --> 00:38:13,548 don't think there's as much leverage 814 00:38:12,219 --> 00:38:15,318 Harvey Levin 815 00:38:13,548 --> 00:38:16,880 got his start as a lawyer and 816 00:38:15,318 --> 00:38:19,369 correspondent covering the Rhoda Simpson 817 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,920 trial in 1990s police are banking on 818 00:38:19,369 --> 00:38:25,160 blood in the Ford Bronco to started TMZ 819 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:27,380 in 2004 and what TMZ is doing is taking 820 00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:29,478 the tactics to form the colors that the 821 00:38:27,380 --> 00:38:31,338 general ethos of confidential and just 822 00:38:29,478 --> 00:38:32,538 transferring it to new medium a little 823 00:38:31,338 --> 00:38:33,708 over half past the hour now here's a 824 00:38:32,539 --> 00:38:35,989 look at the stories that you may have 825 00:38:33,708 --> 00:38:37,458 missed Lindsay Lohan Cable News push the 826 00:38:35,989 --> 00:38:38,250 network news to be faster and more 827 00:38:37,458 --> 00:38:41,190 immediate 828 00:38:38,250 --> 00:38:43,500 and now the network news and cable news 829 00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:54,599 are in many ways responding to what 830 00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:57,090 happens on the Internet media habits 831 00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:59,099 have totally changed ways of getting 832 00:38:57,090 --> 00:39:00,750 information people go online they don't 833 00:38:59,099 --> 00:39:02,759 wait for weekly don't wait for a monthly 834 00:39:00,750 --> 00:39:04,969 magazine anymore when some news breaks 835 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,960 they want to know now what's going on 836 00:39:04,969 --> 00:39:08,219 whenever something happens it doesn't be 837 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:12,030 very like his birthday was yesterday 838 00:39:08,219 --> 00:39:14,429 Google sent my phone right pass and got 839 00:39:12,030 --> 00:39:17,460 new haircut sent to my phone TMZ just 840 00:39:14,429 --> 00:39:20,129 fasting I'm obsessed with TMZ calm in 841 00:39:17,460 --> 00:39:21,840 2006 TMZ broke the story of Mel Gibson's 842 00:39:20,130 --> 00:39:23,760 arrest which drove a tremendous amount 843 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,430 of traffic to the site since then TMZ 844 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,730 has grown into an incredibly well-read 845 00:39:26,429 --> 00:39:28,730 site 846 00:39:38,650 --> 00:39:42,820 he then went on to use the base product 847 00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:44,349 this raw footage from the website and 848 00:39:42,820 --> 00:39:47,309 then came up with a way that he could 849 00:39:44,349 --> 00:39:47,309 repackage it on television 850 00:39:47,590 --> 00:39:52,990 finally Snooki is good Nicole you are 851 00:39:50,260 --> 00:39:54,640 amazing in WrestleMania if you asked 852 00:39:52,989 --> 00:39:56,649 around and you say why do you come to 853 00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:58,420 TMZ increasingly which you're gonna hear 854 00:39:56,650 --> 00:40:01,389 people say is they seem to get the 855 00:39:58,420 --> 00:40:04,450 stories first when I was running MSNBC 856 00:40:01,389 --> 00:40:07,329 we would do our best to make sure source 857 00:40:04,449 --> 00:40:09,699 was credible but these news operations 858 00:40:07,329 --> 00:40:12,400 simply don't have the time or the 859 00:40:09,699 --> 00:40:17,919 ability to fact-check some of what 860 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:19,720 they're reporting and it's very good 861 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,519 that you brought that out I never said 862 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,750 that in that context he never talked to 863 00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:25,210 those people and I never talked to those 864 00:40:22,750 --> 00:40:28,030 people either they make up things yeah 865 00:40:25,210 --> 00:40:30,579 they do it's very tough unfortunately 866 00:40:28,030 --> 00:40:32,110 for a celebrity to sue a publication you 867 00:40:30,579 --> 00:40:35,409 have to prove malice you have to prove 868 00:40:32,110 --> 00:40:37,000 negligence also a lot of celebrities 869 00:40:35,409 --> 00:40:38,349 don't want to draw attention to a story 870 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,289 that is completely wrong or defamatory 871 00:40:38,349 --> 00:40:43,630 or give publicity to some blogger who's 872 00:40:41,289 --> 00:40:45,429 working out of his garage if you sue 873 00:40:43,630 --> 00:40:47,380 that person suddenly you make their site 874 00:40:45,429 --> 00:40:48,909 relevant I have a big famous lawsuit 875 00:40:47,380 --> 00:40:50,110 against the Sun newspaper in Britain a 876 00:40:48,909 --> 00:40:52,119 long time ago in the eighties which 877 00:40:50,110 --> 00:40:53,140 wrote me crazy went on for a year and a 878 00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:54,489 half that said that I slept with 879 00:40:53,139 --> 00:40:56,650 underage Rent Boys gave them drugs 880 00:40:54,489 --> 00:40:59,049 urinated on them I mean it made my life 881 00:40:56,650 --> 00:40:59,980 hell but I got a front-page apology 882 00:40:59,050 --> 00:41:03,400 which was the most important thing for 883 00:40:59,980 --> 00:41:04,240 me we were wrong we're sorry now people 884 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,889 can just make up what they want on the 885 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,119 internet and as soon as I put it on the 886 00:41:05,889 --> 00:41:17,079 internet it goes worldwide so you're 887 00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:18,309 forever denying things nobody's gonna 888 00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:21,219 care about the story tomorrow and they 889 00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:22,779 convinced you to just deal with it when 890 00:41:21,219 --> 00:41:25,359 don't a sudden you're hearing rumors 891 00:41:22,780 --> 00:41:28,450 that are not true on a CNN crawl that's 892 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,950 sort of go this is CNN beautiful I don't 893 00:41:28,449 --> 00:41:31,329 take it personally at this point but if 894 00:41:29,949 --> 00:41:33,029 there was something about the outlet of 895 00:41:31,329 --> 00:41:36,489 CNN that felt like that's a prestigious 896 00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:37,780 you know channel if you respond to 897 00:41:36,489 --> 00:41:39,459 certain things you're right in the 898 00:41:37,780 --> 00:41:41,260 sandbox with them if you don't respond 899 00:41:39,460 --> 00:41:42,929 the story now grows because of the viral 900 00:41:41,260 --> 00:41:45,580 world and because of 24-hour news cycle 901 00:41:42,929 --> 00:41:48,480 so we're constantly trying to figure out 902 00:41:45,579 --> 00:41:48,480 how to put out a fire 903 00:41:48,949 --> 00:41:54,269 perfect example is Tiger Woods he didn't 904 00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:56,039 say anything he issued a statement that 905 00:41:54,269 --> 00:41:58,469 he had quote transgressions and then he 906 00:41:56,039 --> 00:42:00,480 disappeared for months women came out of 907 00:41:58,469 --> 00:42:02,849 the woodwork and it ended up being a 908 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,250 giant scandal because he let it blow up 909 00:42:02,849 --> 00:42:06,659 I think of this as a system anything 910 00:42:05,250 --> 00:42:08,219 that happens here also you know has a 911 00:42:06,659 --> 00:42:10,199 chain reaction throughout the rest of 912 00:42:08,219 --> 00:42:11,399 the industry like Tiger Woods who we 913 00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:14,069 were being served a very tightly 914 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,900 controlled image as soon as the scandal 915 00:42:14,070 --> 00:42:17,610 broke you know a watch company or Nike 916 00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:25,650 doesn't want their name affiliated with 917 00:42:17,610 --> 00:42:26,940 this sort of behavior this morning TMZ 918 00:42:25,650 --> 00:42:28,889 reports KMZ is saying 919 00:42:26,940 --> 00:42:31,110 TMZ has learned until very recently 920 00:42:28,889 --> 00:42:34,619 major news organizations wouldn't have 921 00:42:31,110 --> 00:42:37,289 cited it a TMZ as a source and now they 922 00:42:34,619 --> 00:42:39,199 do there's something beyond just 923 00:42:37,289 --> 00:42:41,369 reporting who's making out with whom 924 00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:42,659 therein lies the love-hate relationship 925 00:42:41,369 --> 00:42:44,639 that we have with someone like lemon 926 00:42:42,659 --> 00:42:45,779 he's illuminating things that we maybe 927 00:42:44,639 --> 00:42:48,059 don't want to know about that we also 928 00:42:45,780 --> 00:42:49,470 feel we should know about but then on 929 00:42:48,059 --> 00:42:52,039 the flip side there's a lot of sagging 930 00:42:49,469 --> 00:42:55,439 flesh and giving the camera the finger 931 00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:57,420 so a blog will have unauthorized content 932 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,429 that may or may not be false maybe in a 933 00:42:57,420 --> 00:43:06,210 post right above or below journalistic 934 00:42:59,429 --> 00:43:08,099 content its dictating that we learn how 935 00:43:06,210 --> 00:43:09,300 to do our homework not believe 936 00:43:08,099 --> 00:43:11,670 everything we were reading in blogs 937 00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:13,860 because everybody has an angle we're at 938 00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:15,659 a really dangerous spot as far as our 939 00:43:13,860 --> 00:43:17,930 inability to discern what is fact and 940 00:43:15,659 --> 00:43:17,929 what is fiction 941 00:43:19,820 --> 00:43:24,910 believe what you read yeah no trace but 942 00:43:23,250 --> 00:43:28,119 believe what you read 943 00:43:24,909 --> 00:43:29,679 got this one yeah that is shot yeah yeah 944 00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:37,358 but it's probably even true and we'll 945 00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:39,038 read it still read it yeah you can't 946 00:43:37,358 --> 00:43:40,298 beat the truth of a camera and this is 947 00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:43,210 what the celebrities are paranoid about 948 00:43:40,298 --> 00:43:44,739 the camera doesn't lie it doesn't stop 949 00:43:43,210 --> 00:43:47,079 the Botox it doesn't stop the surgery 950 00:43:44,739 --> 00:43:50,229 and it doesn't stop you're having sex 951 00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:52,690 with a co-star this is real no one can 952 00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:53,769 lie about this picture it's there and 953 00:43:52,690 --> 00:43:55,960 that's one of the great historical 954 00:43:53,768 --> 00:43:57,159 significance --is that photography and 955 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,630 the media bring today 956 00:43:57,159 --> 00:44:00,848 the problem is with the celebrities it's 957 00:43:58,630 --> 00:44:01,960 instantaneous they have no control even 958 00:44:00,849 --> 00:44:03,789 when we're talking about authorized 959 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,778 photos there's still a lot the 960 00:44:03,789 --> 00:44:06,778 celebrities can control 961 00:44:14,829 --> 00:44:18,769 this is pretty much how we receive 962 00:44:16,849 --> 00:44:22,309 things out here pretty much their entire 963 00:44:18,768 --> 00:44:29,498 body gets retouched well you can kind of 964 00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:29,499 see here or it asks to cut in we cut in 965 00:44:30,030 --> 00:44:35,910 we have to make sure that's all the red 966 00:44:32,099 --> 00:44:37,109 carpets match and it doesn't so we're 967 00:44:35,909 --> 00:44:39,750 gonna have to fix that 968 00:44:37,108 --> 00:44:42,090 some other time the people in the 969 00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:45,090 background that you see are not really 970 00:44:42,090 --> 00:44:50,280 there or duplicated and get rid of 971 00:44:45,090 --> 00:44:52,470 stains on her dress and try to get rid 972 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:55,050 of the wrinkles paparazzi shots need a 973 00:44:52,469 --> 00:44:56,848 lot more TLC than a better photo that we 974 00:44:55,050 --> 00:44:58,920 get from a you know a great photographer 975 00:44:56,849 --> 00:45:00,359 that's definitely a lot less work and 976 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,880 let's help her a little bit because she 977 00:45:00,358 --> 00:45:06,179 looks a little tired sometimes we get 978 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:08,630 photos that are you know green yeah but 979 00:45:06,179 --> 00:45:08,629 we can fix that 980 00:45:08,929 --> 00:45:12,809 the idea that a picture never lies is 981 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,510 simply not true 982 00:45:12,809 --> 00:45:18,269 a picture captures somebody at a 983 00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:19,740 particular moment in time celebrity can 984 00:45:18,269 --> 00:45:21,509 tell a joke and pull a face or something 985 00:45:19,739 --> 00:45:22,649 and then when that person's in trouble 986 00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:24,359 that image will appear and it'll look 987 00:45:22,650 --> 00:45:25,740 like it was shot at the same time in 988 00:45:24,358 --> 00:45:28,019 reaction to something that they've done 989 00:45:25,739 --> 00:45:30,629 so and images don't always tell the 990 00:45:28,019 --> 00:45:32,608 truth it's the context the context is 991 00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:34,380 very important so I think people need to 992 00:45:32,608 --> 00:45:36,779 be more discerning when they're looking 993 00:45:34,380 --> 00:45:38,910 at images we need Zellweger is probably 994 00:45:36,780 --> 00:45:40,560 one of the toughest shots to get because 995 00:45:38,909 --> 00:45:43,879 she doesn't really come out and be seen 996 00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:43,880 as often as we'd like her to be seen 997 00:45:51,780 --> 00:45:55,570 exhilirating mean Joey I'm making her 998 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:59,350 smile and laugh and uh making her feel 999 00:45:55,570 --> 00:46:00,670 good you know their life is about you 1000 00:45:59,349 --> 00:46:02,679 know stay in the public eye because you 1001 00:46:00,670 --> 00:46:03,970 forgotten then my camera goes down and 1002 00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:05,319 then the world doesn't know where you 1003 00:46:03,969 --> 00:46:07,569 didn't want to care about moving all 1004 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:12,940 morning you'll be gone in a flash it's 1005 00:46:07,570 --> 00:46:14,410 called Hollywood who makes them famous 1006 00:46:12,940 --> 00:46:17,500 well actually I do 1007 00:46:14,409 --> 00:46:20,230 they reliant on the paparazzi to 1008 00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:21,219 photograph them to make the money that's 1009 00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:22,960 delusional 1010 00:46:21,219 --> 00:46:25,359 that is absolutely delusional 1011 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:28,780 paparazzi's do not keep your career 1012 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:30,730 alive you know we're not saying don't 1013 00:46:28,780 --> 00:46:33,460 take our pictures we understand there's 1014 00:46:30,730 --> 00:46:35,170 a market here but a photograph of you in 1015 00:46:33,460 --> 00:46:37,360 your back you know backyard sunbathing 1016 00:46:35,170 --> 00:46:39,940 topless cuz you can and you should be 1017 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,680 able to that's a violation and the 1018 00:46:39,940 --> 00:46:43,929 photograph it's in a magazine there's an 1019 00:46:41,679 --> 00:46:46,629 agreement that this is my job and I'm to 1020 00:46:43,929 --> 00:46:48,849 be photographed one is like having 1021 00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:50,590 someone rob your house and go into your 1022 00:46:48,849 --> 00:46:53,049 panty drawer and the other is something 1023 00:46:50,590 --> 00:46:54,220 artistic and beautiful and both are in 1024 00:46:53,050 --> 00:46:57,670 agreement that this is going to take 1025 00:46:54,219 --> 00:46:59,139 place there's a difference vitaminwater 1026 00:46:57,670 --> 00:47:01,480 zero hot line this is Ellen how can I 1027 00:46:59,139 --> 00:47:03,219 help you as long as you're famous 1028 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,550 you've become an enormous commodity in 1029 00:47:03,219 --> 00:47:07,809 this country my guest tonight is 1030 00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:10,240 somebody's been the scent of a huge 1031 00:47:07,809 --> 00:47:12,789 scandal rocking American and news is a 1032 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:16,059 business newspaper entities need to sell 1033 00:47:12,789 --> 00:47:19,750 papers websites want traffic television 1034 00:47:16,059 --> 00:47:21,820 networks want ratings Lindsay Lohan 1035 00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:23,400 increasingly the way to get that is to 1036 00:47:21,820 --> 00:47:25,809 have an entertainment component 1037 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,460 record-setting weekend the tune of 30 1038 00:47:25,809 --> 00:47:29,110 million more than a hundred and fifty 1039 00:47:27,460 --> 00:47:30,789 five million dollars this opening 1040 00:47:29,110 --> 00:47:32,650 weekend every Sunday night what's the 1041 00:47:30,789 --> 00:47:34,570 first item you see on the news how much 1042 00:47:32,650 --> 00:47:36,550 money a movie made over the weekend 1043 00:47:34,570 --> 00:47:38,890 avatar is the number one spot I mean 1044 00:47:36,550 --> 00:47:40,660 avatar hit a billion and it's bigger 1045 00:47:38,889 --> 00:47:44,019 than the security breach at the airport 1046 00:47:40,659 --> 00:47:45,849 it's bigger news why Nick Paton Walsh 1047 00:47:44,019 --> 00:47:47,800 donning his life from Kabul Afghanistan 1048 00:47:45,849 --> 00:47:49,239 many thanks she made sure he got the 1049 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,400 message wait until you hear about 1050 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,709 Charlie Sheen's the concept of hard news 1051 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,690 has really changed Charlie Sheen 1052 00:47:53,710 --> 00:47:58,179 insisted a lot of what used to be 1053 00:47:55,690 --> 00:48:00,460 considered tabloid is now mainstream 1054 00:47:58,179 --> 00:48:02,619 frankly they stopped telling important 1055 00:48:00,460 --> 00:48:04,170 news about the world and they just tell 1056 00:48:02,619 --> 00:48:06,750 gossip 1057 00:48:04,170 --> 00:48:07,950 sometimes you can only watch so many 1058 00:48:06,750 --> 00:48:10,289 things there's somebody that stabbed 1059 00:48:07,949 --> 00:48:11,429 like all day long and you know me like 1060 00:48:10,289 --> 00:48:17,039 there's a flood here or there's an 1061 00:48:11,429 --> 00:48:18,750 earthquake there like who doesn't like a 1062 00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:21,539 good Hollywood escape from time to time 1063 00:48:18,750 --> 00:48:23,429 there's an argument that celebrities act 1064 00:48:21,539 --> 00:48:24,059 as infotainment Parkinson's Awareness 1065 00:48:23,429 --> 00:48:25,769 Month 1066 00:48:24,059 --> 00:48:27,779 Michael Joffe are actually often helping 1067 00:48:25,769 --> 00:48:29,039 issues have real concerned getting into 1068 00:48:27,780 --> 00:48:30,900 the public domain 1069 00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:33,210 so for instance if tragically a 1070 00:48:30,900 --> 00:48:34,470 celebrity is ill with breast cancer or 1071 00:48:33,210 --> 00:48:36,449 something like that it does raise 1072 00:48:34,469 --> 00:48:37,829 awareness speak to the importance of 1073 00:48:36,449 --> 00:48:39,629 screening but there's concern on the 1074 00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:41,519 other hand but focusing so much on the 1075 00:48:39,630 --> 00:48:43,680 my news shy of how famous people live 1076 00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:45,389 their lives is just diverting attention 1077 00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:47,579 from issues which the press should be 1078 00:48:45,389 --> 00:48:50,098 filling their pages with Sarah Palin 1079 00:48:47,579 --> 00:48:52,259 entertainment or journalism Sarah Palin 1080 00:48:50,099 --> 00:48:55,320 is a very good example of the way in 1081 00:48:52,260 --> 00:48:57,750 which celebrity culture has influenced 1082 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,400 the politics I cross my fingers hoping 1083 00:48:57,750 --> 00:49:00,780 it wasn't a mistake I mean say what you 1084 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,599 will about Sarah Palin she has been 1085 00:49:00,780 --> 00:49:05,130 brilliant and manipulating her image I 1086 00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:06,390 think there's real indecision over 1087 00:49:05,130 --> 00:49:07,650 whether or not Sarah Palin really wants 1088 00:49:06,389 --> 00:49:08,129 to be President or she just wants to be 1089 00:49:07,650 --> 00:49:10,619 a celebrity 1090 00:49:08,130 --> 00:49:12,510 I think it's unclear it certainly is the 1091 00:49:10,619 --> 00:49:14,700 question that's United Hollywood and 1092 00:49:12,510 --> 00:49:16,830 Washington you know democracy becomes 1093 00:49:14,699 --> 00:49:18,799 another reality show is Trump actually 1094 00:49:16,829 --> 00:49:22,608 serious about running for president 1095 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,609 that's not good for anyone 1096 00:49:23,860 --> 00:49:28,960 if the mainstream media were to fold and 1097 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:31,179 celebrity tabloids were the only people 1098 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,730 out there publishing it would mean that 1099 00:49:31,179 --> 00:49:37,629 our entire system of democracy has 1100 00:49:33,730 --> 00:49:39,880 collapsed democracy relies on an 1101 00:49:37,630 --> 00:49:42,700 informed electorate to make educated 1102 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:45,880 decisions at the ballot box you can only 1103 00:49:42,699 --> 00:49:49,809 do that if you have access to truthful 1104 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:53,110 timely information the public has a lot 1105 00:49:49,809 --> 00:49:55,139 of responsibility here the paparazzi 1106 00:49:53,110 --> 00:49:58,030 doesn't get away with this in a vacuum 1107 00:49:55,139 --> 00:50:00,369 so I think citizens need to step up and 1108 00:49:58,030 --> 00:50:03,690 start valuing that information they're 1109 00:50:00,369 --> 00:50:03,690 getting from their local news gatherers 1110 00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:13,029 all right yeah I'm done with the Paris 1111 00:50:11,559 --> 00:50:14,529 Authority what do you have against the 1112 00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:15,990 Paris Hilton I have nothing against 1113 00:50:14,530 --> 00:50:18,550 Paris Hilton that was not the issue 1114 00:50:15,989 --> 00:50:22,139 she's very in whether or not it was 1115 00:50:18,550 --> 00:50:22,140 worthy as elite 1116 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,539 I think at this point is getting to be 1117 00:50:34,469 --> 00:50:38,639 supply leading demand because I mean 1118 00:50:36,539 --> 00:50:42,059 look at how many magazines there are now 1119 00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:46,498 like do I really need that but picking 1120 00:50:42,059 --> 00:50:47,970 them up now walked in Airport and it'll 1121 00:50:46,498 --> 00:50:49,919 be three or four people buried in this 1122 00:50:47,969 --> 00:50:51,629 magazine and I'll walk through and no 1123 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,568 one will notice me which is great but it 1124 00:50:51,630 --> 00:50:55,829 is it's there's some irony there and I 1125 00:50:54,568 --> 00:50:57,329 understand it cuz I can get sucked into 1126 00:50:55,829 --> 00:50:58,410 it I can spend twenty minutes on an 1127 00:50:57,329 --> 00:51:01,528 airplane and flip through that stuff and 1128 00:50:58,409 --> 00:51:02,998 I can be in that world reading about 1129 00:51:01,528 --> 00:51:04,199 who's dating who or looking at 1130 00:51:02,998 --> 00:51:08,118 somebody's cellulite on a beach or 1131 00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:08,118 whatever and it makes me feel awful 1132 00:51:11,070 --> 00:51:15,660 you know the celebrities are famous 1133 00:51:12,989 --> 00:51:17,129 people they know that they work hard I 1134 00:51:15,659 --> 00:51:19,589 think to become a celebrity in the first 1135 00:51:17,130 --> 00:51:21,000 place and then you got their picture all 1136 00:51:19,590 --> 00:51:23,039 over the magazine so I don't feel guilty 1137 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,599 at all plus not buying the magazine's it 1138 00:51:23,039 --> 00:51:28,860 costs me a little bit of money to even 1139 00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:30,989 buy the magazine itself it comes with 1140 00:51:28,860 --> 00:51:32,039 your job you've asked for this life you 1141 00:51:30,989 --> 00:51:34,439 wanted to be in the limelight in the 1142 00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:36,599 spotlight so deal with it yeah you know 1143 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,829 I kind of asked for this life and kind 1144 00:51:36,599 --> 00:51:39,509 of knew that this is part of it that 1145 00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:40,619 comes with it but I mean the same way 1146 00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:42,090 you know the magazines make money they 1147 00:51:40,619 --> 00:51:43,199 make money for me you know they get the 1148 00:51:42,090 --> 00:51:44,910 word out that I have a record out there 1149 00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:46,169 and put me in some light that hopefully 1150 00:51:44,909 --> 00:51:49,289 shines and people connect to make them 1151 00:51:46,170 --> 00:51:51,570 wanna hear my record there's a price to 1152 00:51:49,289 --> 00:51:53,610 fame now are you willing to pay it 1153 00:51:51,570 --> 00:51:56,309 yes that's part of your job is promoting 1154 00:51:53,610 --> 00:51:57,570 your work but not I don't think it's 1155 00:51:56,309 --> 00:51:58,860 your job when you're going to a yoga 1156 00:51:57,570 --> 00:52:01,140 class that's not your job 1157 00:51:58,860 --> 00:52:06,260 that's an invasion of privacy and they 1158 00:52:01,139 --> 00:52:08,190 need to stop look I have a great life I 1159 00:52:06,260 --> 00:52:12,090 wouldn't trade myself even with the 1160 00:52:08,190 --> 00:52:15,030 paparazzi following me but not because I 1161 00:52:12,090 --> 00:52:25,410 have a great life they should feel like 1162 00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:28,350 they own it we represent the Bombers 1163 00:52:25,409 --> 00:52:30,869 rights in for many many years and I got 1164 00:52:28,349 --> 00:52:34,019 into the habit of carrying a large black 1165 00:52:30,869 --> 00:52:36,420 umbrella whether the weather calls for 1166 00:52:34,019 --> 00:52:38,190 it or not and if I saw a photographer's 1167 00:52:36,420 --> 00:52:40,530 coming towards us I would open the 1168 00:52:38,190 --> 00:52:42,240 umbrella and like two fools we would 1169 00:52:40,530 --> 00:52:42,870 walk down the street with the umbrella 1170 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,189 in front of me 1171 00:52:42,869 --> 00:52:45,719 so the photographers would not take a 1172 00:52:44,190 --> 00:52:48,690 picture she did not want her picture 1173 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:51,179 taken on the other hand Frank Sinatra 1174 00:52:48,690 --> 00:52:54,030 who we represented controlled that part 1175 00:52:51,179 --> 00:52:56,759 of his celebrity but never appearing in 1176 00:52:54,030 --> 00:52:58,830 public Sinatra would walk down the 1177 00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,480 street if you had to go from here to 1178 00:52:58,829 --> 00:53:01,440 there we took a car do you remember when 1179 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,829 we were like in the trunk of somebody's 1180 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,329 car trying to get away in Gina's car who 1181 00:53:04,829 --> 00:53:07,650 is laying in the trunk I'm like what 1182 00:53:06,329 --> 00:53:09,480 women when did this happen 1183 00:53:07,650 --> 00:53:10,950 I wanted to go shopping you know I'm 1184 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,990 like I'm in the trunk with my girlfriend 1185 00:53:10,949 --> 00:53:14,219 and I'm like this is your life what is 1186 00:53:12,989 --> 00:53:16,829 nothing you can do about it whatever I 1187 00:53:14,219 --> 00:53:18,659 was like I beg to differ I beg to differ 1188 00:53:16,829 --> 00:53:20,250 you feel out of control like you have no 1189 00:53:18,659 --> 00:53:21,719 control over this and then you realize I 1190 00:53:20,250 --> 00:53:23,519 have to actually changed my life 1191 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,679 we've moved out of Miami we've taken 1192 00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:27,750 measures to just 1193 00:53:24,679 --> 00:53:31,739 you know sort of concentrated quality of 1194 00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:34,139 life there's a lot of places where you 1195 00:53:31,739 --> 00:53:35,719 can live whether or not paparazzi you 1196 00:53:34,139 --> 00:53:38,309 don't have to be in the public eye 1197 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:40,589 there's ways to avoid the cameras and 1198 00:53:38,309 --> 00:53:42,239 then they'll say well she's isolated she 1199 00:53:40,590 --> 00:53:43,470 lives a rarefied life she doesn't know 1200 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,229 she does have the human touch she's not 1201 00:53:43,469 --> 00:54:05,519 well I'm desperate to be like you and 1202 00:53:46,230 --> 00:54:06,900 you and you the problem always is that 1203 00:54:05,519 --> 00:54:09,000 certain celebrities invite in the 1204 00:54:06,900 --> 00:54:11,820 attention and so the response of the 1205 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,019 media is well we're getting cold they 1206 00:54:11,820 --> 00:54:14,910 should have an agreement you know the 1207 00:54:13,019 --> 00:54:16,800 reality that whether it's the Paris 1208 00:54:14,909 --> 00:54:17,549 Hilton's or the girls that don't have an 1209 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,530 issue with it 1210 00:54:17,550 --> 00:54:20,910 the Jersey Shore's all of those 1211 00:54:19,530 --> 00:54:22,200 television shows there should be an 1212 00:54:20,909 --> 00:54:28,619 agreement but that doesn't mean that 1213 00:54:22,199 --> 00:54:30,569 everybody else is a free-for-all a lot 1214 00:54:28,619 --> 00:54:35,659 of the time they're told where to be and 1215 00:54:30,570 --> 00:54:35,660 when it becomes kind of a game 1216 00:54:40,550 --> 00:54:45,690 tip you for don't give an information 1217 00:54:43,710 --> 00:54:47,880 out indirectly what the client won't 1218 00:54:45,690 --> 00:54:52,260 even know just to build more - there's 1219 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:55,340 supposed to that's their job you know 1220 00:54:52,260 --> 00:54:55,340 Twitter has become another source 1221 00:54:57,929 --> 00:55:03,788 one time we had a source that was giving 1222 00:55:01,630 --> 00:55:04,750 us specific incredible information it 1223 00:55:03,789 --> 00:55:07,059 was almost if it was coming from 1224 00:55:04,750 --> 00:55:09,460 Angelina Jolie's mouth herself on when 1225 00:55:07,059 --> 00:55:12,369 Pete flew into Africa private little 1226 00:55:09,460 --> 00:55:14,139 resort we had three or four minutes to 1227 00:55:12,369 --> 00:55:17,460 get the picture that was bought in an 1228 00:55:14,139 --> 00:55:17,460 auction overnight by US magazine 1229 00:55:17,789 --> 00:55:21,278 unauthorized publicity definitely has a 1230 00:55:19,900 --> 00:55:23,079 role in maintaining the star's 1231 00:55:21,278 --> 00:55:24,969 visibility and I think that today 1232 00:55:23,079 --> 00:55:26,829 celebrities have learned to allow just 1233 00:55:24,969 --> 00:55:28,480 enough coverage so as to make it seem 1234 00:55:26,829 --> 00:55:29,619 like you are you know giving some of 1235 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,210 yourself but at the same time 1236 00:55:29,619 --> 00:55:33,278 maintaining some ones of privacy 1237 00:55:31,210 --> 00:55:35,440 I mean someone like Brad and Angelina 1238 00:55:33,278 --> 00:55:37,449 have a really meticulously maintained 1239 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,490 star image but they also allow slight 1240 00:55:37,449 --> 00:55:44,078 moments of authenticity that make them 1241 00:55:39,489 --> 00:55:46,659 interesting Angelina Jolie knows exactly 1242 00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:49,059 the moment that you need to have this 1243 00:55:46,659 --> 00:55:50,739 particular part of her persona exposed 1244 00:55:49,059 --> 00:55:52,869 to the world this particular part of her 1245 00:55:50,739 --> 00:55:54,788 life exposed to the world and she's 1246 00:55:52,869 --> 00:55:56,410 brilliant at it you have to constantly 1247 00:55:54,789 --> 00:55:59,019 be able to reinvent yourself and the 1248 00:55:56,409 --> 00:56:01,298 ones who stay before us really are the 1249 00:55:59,018 --> 00:56:03,699 ones who one way or another managed to 1250 00:56:01,298 --> 00:56:05,259 do something that keeps us interested in 1251 00:56:03,699 --> 00:56:07,719 fascinated that to me 1252 00:56:05,259 --> 00:56:09,068 smells celebrity double standards I 1253 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,139 don't agree with it I think it's 1254 00:56:09,068 --> 00:56:13,719 completely not only wrong like Angelina 1255 00:56:11,139 --> 00:56:15,460 Abed Pizza under my terms I'll put my 1256 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,169 children on the front of a magazine for 1257 00:56:15,460 --> 00:56:18,809 15 million bucks but when you're 1258 00:56:17,170 --> 00:56:21,430 photographing me in a public place oh 1259 00:56:18,809 --> 00:56:23,170 that's not on I don't understand that 1260 00:56:21,429 --> 00:56:25,149 that was a very interesting case we 1261 00:56:23,170 --> 00:56:26,409 worked with them for free they wanted 1262 00:56:25,150 --> 00:56:28,298 all the money to go to charities that 1263 00:56:26,409 --> 00:56:29,798 worked perfectly the value of an 1264 00:56:28,298 --> 00:56:31,659 exclusive image is very high because 1265 00:56:29,798 --> 00:56:34,150 that baby or that wedding hasn't been 1266 00:56:31,659 --> 00:56:35,528 photographed before so if we can work 1267 00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:37,269 with the celebrities and get those 1268 00:56:35,528 --> 00:56:40,000 pictures out first it is a massive 1269 00:56:37,268 --> 00:56:41,108 disincentive to the paparazzi to chase 1270 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,579 after them because they're not going to 1271 00:56:41,108 --> 00:56:44,048 get a lot of money for the third picture 1272 00:56:42,579 --> 00:56:46,859 of the baby when the first pictures have 1273 00:56:44,048 --> 00:56:46,858 been published everywhere 1274 00:56:47,019 --> 00:56:55,759 publicity you know it's a game played 1275 00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:58,369 for the benefit of everyone involved up 1276 00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:01,840 to a certain point and that certain 1277 00:56:58,369 --> 00:57:01,840 point is where it gets dangerous 1278 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:13,599 drive out the garage a couple yards down 1279 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,829 the street 1 2 3 4 cars they've all be 1280 00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:16,780 smokin cigarettes waiting for you to 1281 00:57:14,829 --> 00:57:19,420 come out jump in their cars and then 1282 00:57:16,780 --> 00:57:21,460 you're off the main car runs a yellow 1283 00:57:19,420 --> 00:57:23,170 light everybody behind that person with 1284 00:57:21,460 --> 00:57:25,150 ten cars running lights until it turns 1285 00:57:23,170 --> 00:57:27,159 green again then you find yourself 1286 00:57:25,150 --> 00:57:27,880 driving kind of like crazy just to get 1287 00:57:27,159 --> 00:57:29,379 away from them 1288 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,818 one in the front one in the back one on 1289 00:57:29,380 --> 00:57:32,588 the side you feel like a trapped rat 1290 00:57:30,818 --> 00:57:33,759 it's a matter of playing chicken either 1291 00:57:32,588 --> 00:57:36,328 you're gonna stop or you're gonna crash 1292 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,329 into the car 1293 00:57:41,449 --> 00:57:44,730 Nicole Richie's Gina was chased by 1294 00:57:43,619 --> 00:57:48,109 paparazzi and got in a car accident 1295 00:57:44,730 --> 00:57:48,110 thank God her children are in the car 1296 00:57:56,849 --> 00:58:06,059 it can get really dangerous look what 1297 00:58:00,088 --> 00:58:07,558 happened to Diana reports say a vehicle 1298 00:58:06,059 --> 00:58:09,210 carrying the princess and her entourage 1299 00:58:07,559 --> 00:58:11,009 was being chased by photographers 1300 00:58:09,210 --> 00:58:12,778 several hours after the accident 1301 00:58:11,009 --> 00:58:14,338 French emergency services were still at 1302 00:58:12,778 --> 00:58:19,469 the scene cutting people from the 1303 00:58:14,338 --> 00:58:21,989 wreckage this is not a time for 1304 00:58:19,469 --> 00:58:23,488 recriminations but for sadness however I 1305 00:58:21,989 --> 00:58:25,559 would say that I always believed the 1306 00:58:23,489 --> 00:58:27,119 press would kill her in the end but not 1307 00:58:25,559 --> 00:58:28,979 even I could imagine if there takes such 1308 00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:31,048 a direct hand and had that seems to be 1309 00:58:28,978 --> 00:58:32,818 the case it would appear that every 1310 00:58:31,048 --> 00:58:34,380 proprietor and editor of every 1311 00:58:32,818 --> 00:58:36,170 publication that has paid for intrusive 1312 00:58:34,380 --> 00:58:38,130 and exploited photographs of her 1313 00:58:36,170 --> 00:58:39,509 encouraging greedy and ruthless 1314 00:58:38,130 --> 00:58:41,460 individuals to risk everything in 1315 00:58:39,509 --> 00:58:46,920 pursuit of Diana's image has blood on 1316 00:58:41,460 --> 00:58:48,449 his hands today well if the publishers 1317 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:51,659 had blood on their hands today so do the 1318 00:58:48,449 --> 00:58:54,449 readers of those magazines after the 1319 00:58:51,659 --> 00:58:55,889 whole shock of her death people started 1320 00:58:54,449 --> 00:58:58,469 putting flowers outside Buckingham 1321 00:58:55,889 --> 00:59:01,259 Palace and several legitimate news 1322 00:58:58,469 --> 00:59:02,459 photographers were assaulted because 1323 00:59:01,259 --> 00:59:04,949 they were taking photographs of people 1324 00:59:02,460 --> 00:59:08,219 putting the flowers down the people who 1325 00:59:04,949 --> 00:59:11,578 assaulted them were the same people who 1326 00:59:08,219 --> 00:59:15,289 had bought the magazines that made her 1327 00:59:11,579 --> 00:59:17,249 image for valuable commodity 1328 00:59:15,289 --> 00:59:19,319 photographers would not have chased her 1329 00:59:17,248 --> 00:59:21,689 if they couldn't have got good money for 1330 00:59:19,318 --> 00:59:23,248 those photographs and it was the people 1331 00:59:21,690 --> 00:59:27,389 who were buying the magazines that was 1332 00:59:23,248 --> 00:59:29,338 ultimately supplying that money when 1333 00:59:27,389 --> 00:59:31,440 Princess Diana died it was a sense of 1334 00:59:29,338 --> 00:59:32,818 wow this is gonna change everything what 1335 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,420 was sort of the immediate impact in 1336 00:59:32,818 --> 00:59:36,028 England 1337 00:59:33,420 --> 00:59:38,338 I think media interest in Princess Diana 1338 00:59:36,028 --> 00:59:40,829 and specifically her death led to a 1339 00:59:38,338 --> 00:59:44,369 change of culture the commercial demands 1340 00:59:40,829 --> 00:59:46,559 for those kind of photos fell but 1341 00:59:44,369 --> 00:59:48,210 unfortunately in the last few years as 1342 00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:50,548 for younger Royals sources joined the 1343 00:59:48,210 --> 00:59:54,170 family the media interest in them and 1344 00:59:50,548 --> 00:59:54,170 the intrusion is escalating again 1345 00:59:55,440 --> 01:00:02,909 only maybe we party on Monday iconic 1346 00:59:58,210 --> 01:00:02,909 shops where the world was waiting for 1347 01:00:28,199 --> 01:00:32,319 what I love about teaching history is to 1348 01:00:30,610 --> 01:00:34,530 say well this isn't the first time this 1349 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,530 has happened 1350 01:00:35,099 --> 01:00:42,849 you can go back then show how it all 1351 01:00:38,019 --> 01:00:46,090 happened before Connie rich abundance of 1352 01:00:42,849 --> 01:00:48,639 antenna in Instagram Oh check the boon 1353 01:00:46,090 --> 01:00:49,809 to Sochi before it Estrada which is a 1354 01:00:48,639 --> 01:00:52,379 more firm article about sushi grade 1355 01:00:49,809 --> 01:01:00,299 salmon delirium are you daughter Sheila 1356 01:00:52,380 --> 01:01:05,640 $40 machina boy no avail photography I 1357 01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:11,260 presume on dopa if I'd the the Diana 1358 01:01:05,639 --> 01:01:14,699 train perimeter substantial Rd great 1359 01:01:11,260 --> 01:01:14,700 monuments of paparazzi 1360 01:01:25,170 --> 01:01:29,039 Ross was pretty stubborn 1361 01:01:34,139 --> 01:01:41,969 I am a photojournalist it's an art you 1362 01:01:39,798 --> 01:01:44,250 know they're not journalists paparazzi 1363 01:01:41,969 --> 01:01:46,768 are people with a camera anyone can get 1364 01:01:44,250 --> 01:01:48,210 a camera you can go to the drugstore and 1365 01:01:46,768 --> 01:01:49,288 buy a disposable camera now you're 1366 01:01:48,210 --> 01:01:51,119 taking pictures all of a sudden that's 1367 01:01:49,289 --> 01:01:52,769 journalism no way are they a journalist 1368 01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:54,750 if they're allowed to do it if they're 1369 01:01:52,768 --> 01:01:55,739 allowed to chase you if they're allowed 1370 01:01:54,750 --> 01:01:56,969 if they're allowed to invade your 1371 01:01:55,739 --> 01:02:00,209 privacy and they know they're gonna make 1372 01:01:56,969 --> 01:02:02,068 money off of it they're not gonna stop I 1373 01:02:00,210 --> 01:02:03,720 just feel a photographer take a decent 1374 01:02:02,068 --> 01:02:05,038 photograph gonna learn your trade make 1375 01:02:03,719 --> 01:02:06,929 some beautiful photographs like you know 1376 01:02:05,039 --> 01:02:09,569 Irving Penn or some other now what you 1377 01:02:06,929 --> 01:02:12,028 do is just it's just crap it's crap it 1378 01:02:09,568 --> 01:02:13,949 must be frustrating it must be 1379 01:02:12,028 --> 01:02:16,559 frustrating what I think might be even 1380 01:02:13,949 --> 01:02:19,250 more frustrating is to never see a 1381 01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:19,250 photographer again 1382 01:02:23,150 --> 01:02:29,280 paparazzi are doing journalism they are 1383 01:02:26,579 --> 01:02:31,410 gathering information they are telling a 1384 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,950 story of some sort and disseminating it 1385 01:02:31,409 --> 01:02:33,949 to an audience 1386 01:02:34,619 --> 01:02:39,309 the First Amendment protects artists in 1387 01:02:37,869 --> 01:02:41,440 their ability to be creative and 1388 01:02:39,309 --> 01:02:44,590 sometimes risque and it also protects 1389 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:46,960 the paparazzi but it doesn't necessarily 1390 01:02:44,590 --> 01:02:49,150 mean that it protects against each and 1391 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:51,309 every action there definitely are limits 1392 01:02:49,150 --> 01:02:54,250 to free speech you don't get to publish 1393 01:02:51,309 --> 01:02:56,529 false things about somebody you don't 1394 01:02:54,250 --> 01:02:59,829 get to publish obscenity child 1395 01:02:56,530 --> 01:03:02,230 pornography you do not get to invade 1396 01:02:59,829 --> 01:03:03,730 someone's privacy by shooting with the 1397 01:03:02,230 --> 01:03:05,829 long telephoto lens into somebody's 1398 01:03:03,730 --> 01:03:09,219 bedroom the Supreme Court has said you 1399 01:03:05,829 --> 01:03:11,409 don't get to do those things you tell me 1400 01:03:09,219 --> 01:03:12,909 this kind of behavior is covered by what 1401 01:03:11,409 --> 01:03:15,509 journalism should be covered ollie 1402 01:03:12,909 --> 01:03:15,509 that's just bull 1403 01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:30,900 these people are behaving terribly it's 1404 01:03:27,489 --> 01:03:35,019 beyond rude and crude and unacceptable 1405 01:03:30,900 --> 01:03:36,940 but it's very hard to legislate good 1406 01:03:35,018 --> 01:03:39,218 behavior I'm not somebody for more laws 1407 01:03:36,940 --> 01:03:40,630 and more laws and more laws to say who 1408 01:03:39,219 --> 01:03:41,739 can shoot a picture and who can't and 1409 01:03:40,630 --> 01:03:42,910 where they can put in what they can do I 1410 01:03:41,739 --> 01:03:45,039 mean that's part of the beauty of our 1411 01:03:42,909 --> 01:03:46,179 society is the freedoms but there's got 1412 01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:48,430 to be something that we can stand up 1413 01:03:46,179 --> 01:03:49,808 morally as a culture and say hey that's 1414 01:03:48,429 --> 01:03:52,440 not cool taking picture that kid over 1415 01:03:49,809 --> 01:03:52,440 there cut it up 1416 01:03:54,719 --> 01:03:59,098 I love to walk my son to school because 1417 01:03:57,329 --> 01:04:01,260 it's the time of day that he's very open 1418 01:03:59,099 --> 01:04:04,260 the whole world is interesting to him 1419 01:04:01,260 --> 01:04:07,170 and to have long lenses aimed at you 1420 01:04:04,260 --> 01:04:08,760 purposefully getting in your never mind 1421 01:04:07,170 --> 01:04:13,829 your physical path but your emotional 1422 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:21,390 path it's actually a scary feeling like 1423 01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:22,769 having sharpshooters aimed at you the 1424 01:04:21,389 --> 01:04:24,568 more intimate shots are the ones that 1425 01:04:22,769 --> 01:04:26,159 people criticize or why don't you leave 1426 01:04:24,568 --> 01:04:29,730 them alone and but there is a demand for 1427 01:04:26,159 --> 01:04:32,039 it we just shoot and submit them into 1428 01:04:29,730 --> 01:04:34,858 the library it's up to the agencies the 1429 01:04:32,039 --> 01:04:43,079 publication the TV networks the websites 1430 01:04:34,858 --> 01:04:45,989 and blogs wherever you read it or saw it 1431 01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:47,760 ask to them why do they publish it cute 1432 01:04:45,989 --> 01:04:49,318 kids are popular and celebrities have a 1433 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:52,220 lot of cute kids a lot of women love to 1434 01:04:49,318 --> 01:04:52,219 look at you babies 1435 01:04:56,219 --> 01:04:59,459 now they're having covers of these 1436 01:04:58,108 --> 01:05:02,789 magazines it's like who's the cutest 1437 01:04:59,460 --> 01:05:05,880 Hollywood baby they haven't decided to 1438 01:05:02,789 --> 01:05:09,119 become a famous person so you can't you 1439 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:10,588 can't do that to them there are so many 1440 01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:12,240 outlets now to sell pictures of 1441 01:05:10,588 --> 01:05:14,250 celebrity kids and there's so much money 1442 01:05:12,239 --> 01:05:15,899 to be made and it it's you can't even 1443 01:05:14,250 --> 01:05:17,639 argue with somebody about the ethics of 1444 01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:19,380 it you know I can't explain to somebody 1445 01:05:17,639 --> 01:05:21,480 I'm a high profile person but my son 1446 01:05:19,380 --> 01:05:22,680 isn't and just because he's with me it's 1447 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,380 not like a handbag you know he's a 1448 01:05:22,679 --> 01:05:32,179 person and it's worrisome yeah it's 1449 01:05:25,380 --> 01:05:34,650 really worrisome how's it going Britney 1450 01:05:32,179 --> 01:05:58,019 whoever flashed these lights my kid 1451 01:05:34,650 --> 01:05:59,670 again the thought is devastating to me 1452 01:05:58,019 --> 01:06:01,469 it's frightening it's terribly 1453 01:05:59,670 --> 01:06:02,670 frightening to me um well really just 1454 01:06:01,469 --> 01:06:04,529 may be really upset to think about that 1455 01:06:02,670 --> 01:06:09,269 right I mean have someone following your 1456 01:06:04,530 --> 01:06:13,619 children is it's entering a place that 1457 01:06:09,269 --> 01:06:15,929 just no one should be leave children out 1458 01:06:13,619 --> 01:06:18,390 of it they didn't ask to be famous and 1459 01:06:15,929 --> 01:06:19,679 they have their rights too you know the 1460 01:06:18,389 --> 01:06:22,108 kids ought to be doing the suing and 1461 01:06:19,679 --> 01:06:24,199 that might be way legally to get some 1462 01:06:22,108 --> 01:06:26,299 traction on this 1463 01:06:24,199 --> 01:06:28,219 there are very different laws of privacy 1464 01:06:26,300 --> 01:06:31,070 by the English courts than the American 1465 01:06:28,219 --> 01:06:33,588 courts JKRowling port proceedings on 1466 01:06:31,070 --> 01:06:35,180 behalf of her very young son and it was 1467 01:06:33,588 --> 01:06:37,219 held that her son had a reasonable 1468 01:06:35,179 --> 01:06:38,929 expectation of privacy that he wouldn't 1469 01:06:37,219 --> 01:06:40,549 be followed around by photographers on 1470 01:06:38,929 --> 01:06:42,078 the street in the same way that any 1471 01:06:40,550 --> 01:06:43,730 ordinary child wouldn't be photographed 1472 01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:45,859 by the paparazzi there was a landmark 1473 01:06:43,730 --> 01:06:47,420 case because it established that the 1474 01:06:45,858 --> 01:06:49,730 children of famous people should be 1475 01:06:47,420 --> 01:06:51,950 treated in the same way as the children 1476 01:06:49,730 --> 01:06:53,599 of Ottoman parents a three-year-old 1477 01:06:51,949 --> 01:06:55,088 suing me in court I think is wrong I 1478 01:06:53,599 --> 01:06:57,260 mean I think it's absolutely ridiculous 1479 01:06:55,088 --> 01:06:58,639 the fact the matter is the JK rowling 1480 01:06:57,260 --> 01:07:00,170 case the only reason why I didn't lose 1481 01:06:58,639 --> 01:07:01,549 the case she was just given the right to 1482 01:07:00,170 --> 01:07:02,809 go to a trial but it was you know you 1483 01:07:01,550 --> 01:07:04,760 take of the world's richest woman and 1484 01:07:02,809 --> 01:07:06,440 you know was David Nicolai in France 1485 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:09,349 they can't take a picture of my child 1486 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:12,130 it's real it's night and day if you 1487 01:07:09,349 --> 01:07:14,510 compare Paris to the Sanjana Soni year 1488 01:07:12,130 --> 01:07:16,400 here in the United States probably any 1489 01:07:14,510 --> 01:07:18,800 judge under the law is going to say hey 1490 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,230 no you don't get to follow them wherever 1491 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,789 you know the very first case out there 1492 01:07:20,230 --> 01:07:25,070 Jacqueline Kennedy had a lawsuit against 1493 01:07:22,789 --> 01:07:27,650 wrangle Ella because she was concerned 1494 01:07:25,070 --> 01:07:30,829 for the safety of Caroline and young 1495 01:07:27,650 --> 01:07:32,269 John and she was able to get it declared 1496 01:07:30,829 --> 01:07:34,940 in New York that he had to stay a 1497 01:07:32,269 --> 01:07:38,838 certain distance away from those 1498 01:07:34,940 --> 01:07:41,300 children since then there's pretty much 1499 01:07:38,838 --> 01:07:43,789 been a truce around presidential 1500 01:07:41,300 --> 01:07:44,930 children but I think it's a little bit 1501 01:07:43,789 --> 01:07:48,039 different from what children of 1502 01:07:44,929 --> 01:07:48,039 celebrities experience 1503 01:07:48,179 --> 01:07:56,399 I remember it was night and it was 1504 01:07:53,460 --> 01:07:57,838 really cold so my thing that flash is 1505 01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:01,619 gonna fail that's like two months three 1506 01:07:57,838 --> 01:08:03,358 months old so I I told my nan take take 1507 01:08:01,619 --> 01:08:04,769 her and when they were taking my picture 1508 01:08:03,358 --> 01:08:05,969 they were all over they didn't care they 1509 01:08:04,769 --> 01:08:08,219 pushed the baby they put another sheet 1510 01:08:05,969 --> 01:08:09,899 nearly went to the floor and then of 1511 01:08:08,219 --> 01:08:12,959 course I charged after the photographer 1512 01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:16,679 I made sure the baby was okay and I was 1513 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:18,390 just so angry my child could have had a 1514 01:08:16,679 --> 01:08:20,399 really serious accident I mean when 1515 01:08:18,390 --> 01:08:22,350 you're 2 or 3 on the street they think 1516 01:08:20,399 --> 01:08:23,969 he could have stepped on her that just 1517 01:08:22,350 --> 01:08:29,159 ought to be illegal it's a little 1518 01:08:23,969 --> 01:08:34,739 criminal there should be certain rules I 1519 01:08:29,158 --> 01:08:36,929 think I just feel like it's an invasion 1520 01:08:34,738 --> 01:08:38,759 of privacy and that these kids really 1521 01:08:36,929 --> 01:08:42,420 don't need that kind of attention at 1522 01:08:38,759 --> 01:08:43,979 this point in their lives even if their 1523 01:08:42,420 --> 01:08:45,149 mom or their dad is the famous one it 1524 01:08:43,979 --> 01:08:46,349 doesn't give them the paparazzi know 1525 01:08:45,149 --> 01:08:47,789 right that you want nothing to do with 1526 01:08:46,350 --> 01:08:52,020 it that's what if I was to say Evan 1527 01:08:47,789 --> 01:08:54,390 wants to see their kids don't do it hmm 1528 01:08:52,020 --> 01:08:56,489 it's kind of sad but it's like it makes 1529 01:08:54,390 --> 01:08:57,600 me more interested in what the kids are 1530 01:08:56,488 --> 01:09:00,769 doing because like that's the new 1531 01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,770 generation of celebrities coming up 1532 01:09:09,289 --> 01:09:16,319 the public has to take some degree of 1533 01:09:12,029 --> 01:09:18,509 responsibility and demand that these 1534 01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:21,480 sort of photographs not be published 1535 01:09:18,509 --> 01:09:24,630 that they put pressure economic 1536 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:26,939 political social pressure on media 1537 01:09:24,630 --> 01:09:29,509 entities to say we don't want this we 1538 01:09:26,939 --> 01:09:29,509 won't have it 1539 01:09:39,069 --> 01:09:48,270 I took a total of 289 1540 01:09:49,770 --> 01:09:56,110 here at Us Weekly we get about 750,000 1541 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:57,580 four million images a month the images 1542 01:09:56,109 --> 01:09:59,649 are coming at us from all different 1543 01:09:57,579 --> 01:10:01,510 angles and anybody whose eyes are 1544 01:09:59,649 --> 01:10:02,939 working will see about a thousand images 1545 01:10:01,510 --> 01:10:05,230 a day we should be asking ourselves 1546 01:10:02,939 --> 01:10:08,079 what's happening in this photo where was 1547 01:10:05,229 --> 01:10:09,559 taken when it was taken context is 1548 01:10:08,079 --> 01:10:13,430 everything 1549 01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:16,310 we are drenched and piled over with 1550 01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:20,210 media coverage I'm not gonna say it's 1551 01:10:16,310 --> 01:10:22,370 good for us or bad for us it is what it 1552 01:10:20,210 --> 01:10:26,420 is and we're going to have to make the 1553 01:10:22,369 --> 01:10:27,800 best of it I mean we watch tabloid 1554 01:10:26,420 --> 01:10:29,449 magazine television shows and we buy the 1555 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,699 magazines and we're invested in reality 1556 01:10:29,449 --> 01:10:33,829 TV but we don't we don't have an 1557 01:10:31,699 --> 01:10:34,849 interconnectedness that is personal you 1558 01:10:33,829 --> 01:10:38,180 know that where we're sitting in front 1559 01:10:34,850 --> 01:10:41,590 of each other it's become the disease of 1560 01:10:38,180 --> 01:10:41,590 our culture celebrity 1561 01:10:49,158 --> 01:10:52,969 we are complicit in the driving of this 1562 01:10:50,988 --> 01:10:55,039 industry it's something that we should 1563 01:10:52,969 --> 01:10:57,139 think about we should analyze and what 1564 01:10:55,039 --> 01:11:02,529 we need to actually enact change is 1565 01:10:57,139 --> 01:11:04,699 action be aware 1566 01:11:02,529 --> 01:11:07,939 don't be naive about where these 1567 01:11:04,698 --> 01:11:10,009 pictures are coming from they sell it 1568 01:11:07,939 --> 01:11:11,689 because there's a market for it 1569 01:11:10,010 --> 01:11:15,170 consider where are you going to place 1570 01:11:11,689 --> 01:11:15,888 value we don't have to watch it never 1571 01:11:15,170 --> 01:11:19,730 have to read it 1572 01:11:15,889 --> 01:11:21,050 I think I'll deal with myself I'm trying 1573 01:11:19,729 --> 01:11:22,428 to be a little more conscious 17 have 1574 01:11:21,050 --> 01:11:23,810 fun and you know see what's going on in 1575 01:11:22,429 --> 01:11:24,949 the celebrity world she needs to be a 1576 01:11:23,810 --> 01:11:27,090 little more conscious about what's going 1577 01:11:24,948 --> 01:11:31,759 on in real world 1578 01:11:27,090 --> 01:11:31,760 somebody in the army reads a celebrity 1579 01:11:31,889 --> 01:11:38,368 doctors that save lives teachers cops 1580 01:11:35,219 --> 01:11:41,899 firefighters you know that's a celebrity 1581 01:11:38,368 --> 01:11:41,899 they want to really get down to it 1582 01:11:43,449 --> 01:11:47,470 all I wanted when I got into this 1583 01:11:45,399 --> 01:11:51,109 industry was make some money make a lot 1584 01:11:47,470 --> 01:11:57,079 of money make history 1585 01:11:51,109 --> 01:11:57,079 Bart wake up get out they're gonna get 1586 01:12:41,708 --> 01:12:44,399 she's 1587 01:12:51,448 --> 01:12:59,518 a member of the paparazzi for 150 1588 01:12:58,198 --> 01:13:01,498 dollars two people can hang out with 1589 01:12:59,519 --> 01:13:02,590 paparazzo Rick Mendoza he's hungry that 1590 01:13:01,498 --> 01:13:07,139 goes between 1591 01:13:02,590 --> 01:13:07,140 after she allegedly ran over his flat 1592 01:13:09,079 --> 01:13:13,890 like Jesus Christ could come back a few 1593 01:13:12,329 --> 01:13:15,149 thousand years to give us a Polish and 1594 01:13:13,890 --> 01:13:16,950 somebody to get a picture and put it on 1595 01:13:15,149 --> 01:13:26,339 TMZ the first comment would be Jesus is 1596 01:13:16,949 --> 01:13:27,239 a fucking douchebag you know by me now 1597 01:13:26,340 --> 01:13:29,369 is that against the law 1598 01:13:27,239 --> 01:13:30,689 they get your points for that you have I 1599 01:13:29,369 --> 01:13:33,470 took three or four miles specially to 1600 01:13:30,689 --> 01:13:33,469 take that I got to get like 1601 01:13:40,079 --> 01:13:44,949 my wife got path to JFK last night well 1602 01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,839 I see a blonde with a Louis Vuitton bags 1603 01:13:44,949 --> 01:13:49,179 they were right in her face she was 1604 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:53,069 right in my face 1605 01:13:49,180 --> 01:13:53,070 I just walked away like nothing happened 1606 01:16:01,658 --> 01:16:03,719 you 190921

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