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NARRATOR: Tonight on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch.
MELINDA X: It's like the angel of death
lives here or something.
We were stuck.
Everybody died.
MAN: It did get to a point where she
refused to be out here anymore.
Look at this.
Where is it all coming from?
MAN: Three, two, one.
[rocket launches]
The GPS tracker is pointing you towards the house right now?
MAN: There shouldn't be a signal in this house.
NARRATOR: For years, scientists have
been working to reveal the secrets of Skinwalker Ranch.
But is it possible that the clues
to unlock the mystery are located
beyond the borders of this hub of high strangeness?
Wow.
NARRATOR: Now, an ex-CIA agent and a veteran journalist
have been recruited by the Skinwalker team
to go on a high stakes mission across America.
Look at all this activity that's happening.
MAN: That's unbelievable. - That is right over our heads.
That's it. That's it right there.
NARRATOR: The goal, uncover evidence that
may finally expose the truth.
MAN: How is this happening?
MAN: Now, It's going to get interesting.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Look, it's moving.
Look at that.
MAN: This is just the beginning.
Paul and Andy, it's good to have you back at the ranch.
I understand you've got another interesting location to visit.
So tell us what you got planned.
Not only is it an interesting story, frankly,
it's a disturbing one.
There's a ranch in Taos, where a woman has a series of tragedies
and claims for maybe the origin or reasons
behind these tragedies that I don't know how else to put it.
It's very creepy and disturbing material.
Where exactly is Taos?
PAUL BEBAN: Taos is in Northern New Mexico.
It's really at the tail end of the San Luis Valley,
which is an anomaly corridor.
We have these strong correlations between Taos
and Skinwalker Ranch.
The woman, who is our principal point of contact,
has reported strange sightings and energy anomalies
that affected them physically. - Yeah.
She seems to think that there's some kind
of malevolent presence, even a demon, that might be
at this ranch house that she and her husband owned,
where the husband actually passed away.
They think it impacted their health long
before the husband passed away.
She talks about abductions for multiple years at a time.
What kind of abductions are we talking about?
She seems to think there is some kind of portal
that, whatever this is, is moving in and out of
and abducting her, abducting her husband, abducting even animals.
The possibility of something like a portal,
that really gets my attention.
So we've been put in touch with Chris
O'Brien, which is a name that you might be familiar with here.
He's an investigator who goes back to the Sherman days
here at Skinwalker.
NARRATOR: In the early '90s, before Robert
Bigelow owned Skinwalker Ranch, it was
owned by the Sherman family.
They experienced everything from UFO sightings
to cattle mutilations.
They were terrorized.
NARRATOR: The strange phenomena led the Shermans
to call in Chris O'Brien, one of the premier cattle
mutilation experts in the country.
He became one of the first people
to investigate what's now known as Skinwalker Ranch.
He recently brought Taos Ranch, a hotspot
he's been investigating, to Andy and Paul's attention.
What we know is that Chris O'Brien has a long-standing
reputation in the San Luis Valley as a knowledgeable
and dedicated investigator.
So it's an awesome opportunity, I think,
for us to go to a new location and see
if we can measure anything about the phenomenon
that may or may not be present.
And then hope to solve the question of,
is the phenomenon that's present truly malevolent
or is it just some energy anomaly?
Is it some explainable phenomenon
that maybe is beyond the current ranch owner's understanding?
The only thing I know about Taos is the Taos hum.
So I have done some digging, as I
assume you have also Travis, into this reported Taos hum.
In fact, there are several locations around the world where
there's this unaccounted for artificial sound
coming from some unknown source.
I also understand that it tends to be low frequency
and that not everyone can hear it.
That's something we're going to try to figure out as well.
How does it fit into the whole picture?
And I think, in this case, the ranch owner,
the woman is, to our understanding,
a fairly prominent member of the community.
Oh, good.
Really doesn't want her identity known,
has not spoken about this publicly.
So we're going to be, really, the first to get a full account
of what's going on out there.
Our focus is on the property itself.
And I would even go further to say that our focus is
going to be on the ranch house.
OK.
The center points of her experience.
All right. Good luck, fellas.
Thank you.
We'll see you guys in a bit. PAUL BEBAN: Doesn't sound easy.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: No, never easy, but always exciting.
NARRATOR: Due to the sensitive nature of this investigation,
the owner of Taos ranch has asked
for her identity, and the exact location of the ranch
to be kept anonymous.
PAUL BEBAN: Look at this place.
Look at Taos.
This whole area is just so vast.
It's vast.
And it's beautiful, but it's also
shrouded in this long history of strangeness.
This whole area has been saturated
with UFO sightings, orb sightings, cattle mutilations.
The whole gamut of what we've seen in Skinwalker Ranch
exists here.
PAUL BEBAN: Right.
Andy, I think a lot of our investigations
are places where the strangeness is not necessarily threatening.
This place is different.
This place has actually been abandoned.
The ranch owner is so afraid of this place
that she won't go back.
Right now, what we have is stories of dark energy.
The question is, can we put some data to these stories?
Is there some evidence that we can collect here
to show that the compounding strangeness, including
the dark energy forces at play here, might be tied to a portal?
I think this is a place where we really
need to divide and conquer.
Absolutely.
We've only got a few days on site.
So I know you have an interview set up
with the current ranch owner.
I can drop you off there.
And then I'll head on to the ranch
and have an initial walkthrough with Chris O'Brien.
PAUL BEBAN: Perfect.
[music playing]
Hey, Andy. Welcome.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Thanks, Chris.
This is a hell of a place to pull up to, man.
I'm glad you made it.
Absolutely.
Thanks for having me.
I think we're going to find some pretty
interesting things here.
And that's what I'm the most curious about is, really
understanding what happened here and what have you
already been able to discover?
I think there's a lot of similarities, really,
between the Sherman's experience and the series of events
that this couple experienced here.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: So you're saying
that what you've seen here in this investigation
parallels much of what you saw in your original investigation
of Skinwalker Ranch?
There's some real stark similarities.
The visitations, the types of entities
that have been described.
But what really, I think, has these two
cases stuck together at the hip is a portal or a doorway.
Wow.
NARRATOR: While Andy continues his investigation at the ranch,
Paul sits down with the ranch owner
to hear her account of the phenomena she experienced.
Melinda, Thank you so much for being here.
I think just tell us the story of you
and your husband and your home and what the two of you
experienced there.
I moved in with him in 2005.
He owned a ranch.
He had cattle.
And at first, we lived in an RV, the first year
while we were building our guest house.
At first, when I moved there, it was just
UFOs of every imaginable lights, in terms of some of them
had just solid white lights across them.
Some of them had the White lights that blink.
It was cool.
It's like seeing shooting stars.
But I think after about the third night that I lived there,
we got abducted the first time.
And--
Within just a few days of you moving to the ranch,
you experienced an abduction.
MELINDA X: Yeah.
PAUL BEBAN: What do you mean by abduction?
So at the beginning of every abduction,
I would say the windows, the area gets flooded
with bright white light.
And we hear a very almost imperceptible hum.
You can feel the magnetism.
You can feel that resistance.
When we wake up the next morning, we feel hung over.
Foggy in the head, very tired, sore in all different parts
of our body.
What do you think is happening?
I believe we were taken onto a ship
and that we were being medically examined and studied.
Afterwards, he said, stuff like this happens on the ranch.
Why do you think it was happening
to you and your husband?
What is the reason for all this?
Number one, the ranch is a power
center regarded as such by local Native American tradition.
My husband and I always said, there's got to be a portal here.
There's got to be a vortex here, something.
Did you feel you were in danger?
Oh, yeah, every moment.
My husband and I, we were bedridden.
We were so sick we couldn't get up and down the stairs
without having to stop two or three times and rest
for a half hour each time.
Standing in the front door, I could
feel a very scary negative presence standing behind me.
Our two German shepherds wouldn't come inside with us.
I said to my husband, it's like the angel of death
lives here or something
When did you leave the ranch?
First, my dog died and then a few months
later, our horse died.
Two months later, my husband died.
A month later, my cat died.
And a month after that, my other dog died.
And the moment I finished burying that dog,
I called my son and said, come get me.
I ran for my life.
You ran to escape.
Yeah.
So you lost, it sounds--
Everybody.
I couldn't live there.
It was uninhabitable.
Why do you think that all happened?
Do you blame that on the entities?
I blame it on a demon.
I call it a demon.
This is all connected to these negative energies on the ranch.
Yeah.
I think a lot of people might hear this and think,
wow, this is really out there.
I don't believe this.
What would you say to people who are skeptical?
I absolutely don't care.
I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything.
People are going to think what they're going to think.
Why are you coming forward now?
I know we're protecting your identity.
Why are you choosing to speak publicly about this now?
I know what's going on in layman's terms.
I would love to know what's going
on in scientific terms about what's
been happening on my ranch.
NARRATOR: As Paul finishes up his interview with the ranch
owner, Andy continues his investigation at her abandoned
ranch with Chris O'Brien.
OK, here we go.
This is ground zero here.
The house where majority of the activity took
place on the second floor.
And this is where the so-called negative demon energy was
pretty much centralized here.
They were spending time upstairs.
So that's where they would have the experiences.
And I'm being affected by something right now.
I don't know what it is.
What are you feeling?
I'm feeling heart palpitations.
I'm having a problem with breathing.
You OK?
I feel like I'm breaking out in a sweat.
OK.
You're breaking out in a sweat in this cold.
There's definitely something wrong.
I think we should take a break real quick.
Take a break? The truck's right over here.
I'm not doing good, guys.
And I just definitely got hit with something here.
It happened right when I first stopped right there.
Right in this area here.
Yeah, right at the front threshold of the property,
really. - Yeah.
NARRATOR: Andy is with investigator Chris O'Brien
at the abandoned Taos Ranch, where the owner believes
a dark entity exists, that may have
caused her husband to become sick and eventually die.
Now, as they're about to enter the ranch house,
something has stricken Chris.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: I've got a medic on-site.
You want me to call him in?
Oxygen, water?
No, I'm good.
All the years that I've been doing this, I do
think I have developed a certain sensitivity
to some of these energies that swirl through these sites.
I felt like something went through me.
I had a wave of some form of energy.
I don't know what it was, but I feel almost back to normal now.
Thanks for bearing with me, guys.
Our staff is on standby, man.
We have the whole team here for exactly this reason.
Yeah, exactly.
Boy, I appreciate it, guys.
All right.
Let's onwards and upwards here.
We haven't even gotten to the house.
Let's go check it out.
So I'm going to certainly say that whenever you
feel anything off, let me know.
Yeah.
They've also got a FLIR camera here.
That's going to give us an eye into thermal activity.
All right, my friend.
We are in business.
We're going to go directly upstairs.
Watch yourself.
It's in a little bit of disarray.
When they left, they did not come back and take things.
Melinda said, that's it.
I'm out of here.
This is our second story.
So this would be the main area where
the majority of the sightings of actual entities
and the encounters were reported by both the rancher
and, especially, Melinda.
This is a bed where a lot of the activity was centered.
And she seemed insistent with the role
that these windows would play in the events.
And these would be the windows where, oftentimes,
the first sightings of any craft, they
would see out these windows looking towards the North.
And occasionally, the lights would get so close, and so
bright that they would be literally
illuminating the room with the spill
coming through the windows.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: But then the actual abductions
themselves would focus around this--
CHRIS O'BRIEN: Right here in this bed.
This is it.
And it did get to a point where she
refused to be out here anymore.
This house is creepy.
And when you actually stand here and look out the windows,
it's easy to look through the eyes of the ranch owners
and imagine the kind of terror that they
must have felt living here.
NARRATOR: Now that Chris has given Andy a first-hand look
inside the house, Paul joins them on the ranch property
to conduct their first experiment right
outside the window where the owner claims
most of her abductions occurred that may be related to a portal.
They are joined by local mutual UFO network
investigator Steve Priola.
Now, Steve, Chris and I have been
out here and done some initial investigation starting here.
This is the house where the current ranch owners believe
there's some kind of negative spirit present going
as far as to call it a demon.
I was going to say, this is the house that really is the focus
of the negative energy here.
And the potential that there's some portal activity.
And what we want to do tonight is
we want to see if we can't stimulate some change
in the environment using some techniques that Paul and I have
experimented with in the past, as well as some tools that have
worked on Skinwalker Ranch.
NARRATOR: In 2022, the team at Skinwalker Ranch
discovered the effects of playing
back specific audio tones.
Playing the tones seemed to trigger the appearance of a UAP.
Oh, did y'all see that?
Right above us right now.
I'm just jumping.
It came right across the sky.
NARRATOR: Now, Andy and Paul will conduct
the same experiment, but they're going to use a tone that matches
the infamous Taos hum, since the ranch
owner reported hearing a humming noise
before her alleged abductions.
We've heard about the Taos hum,
but we really don't know all the details.
Maybe you can fill us in on it.
Well, it's pretty widespread in this area.
And it's been going on for probably hundreds of years.
We're getting a lot of reports of it
happening now, including somebody
today who I interviewed.
Today?
Today.
And I've heard that the frequencies around 55 hertz.
And I played him the specific tone.
And as soon as he heard it, that's it.
Well, we'll be blasting 55 hertz tonight for sure.
NARRATOR: In addition to playing a 55 hertz tone,
the team will be monitoring the area with FLIR thermal cameras
to look for temperature changes in the environment,
and a spectrum analyzer to capture any unusual radio
frequency activity, particularly,
in the 1.6 gigahertz range that signifies
Earth to space or space to Earth communication.
And spectrum analyzer is live.
So with that, I think the place that we normally start
is we take a look at baselines.
So yeah, what we're seeing right now,
baseline, is just standard low-level radio
noise all across the spectrum.
So then let's start the Taos tone.
All right.
55 hertz is cued up for the tone generator.
OK.
All right.
You see this, Paul? Look, look, look.
Yeah.
What's going on here?
Look at this.
Look at how it's changing.
PAUL BEBAN: Wow.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Look at this.
And you can see the energy changes.
So this didn't start until after we turned on the tone generator.
And then this is happening on a frequency that is reserved
for Earth to space and space to Earth
communication, the whole 1.6 gigahertz frequency zone.
Look at that.
Now the tone generator is off.
And it's still going.
But what's all the other noise?
Where is it all coming from?
And it hasn't turned off.
It hasn't stopped.
Look at this.
Whoa.
What's so interesting is when we turned it off, it's still going.
This energy has not shut off.
It's like we kicked open some kind of door here.
You definitely-- you poke something.
Look at this.
It hasn't turned off.
It hasn't stopped.
You definitely-- you poke something.
I don't understand what that is.
NARRATOR: After using a tone generator to send out a 55 hertz
signal, similar to the Taos hum, Andy and Paul
seem to have elicited a persistent response in the radio
frequency range, signifying Earth to space or space
to Earth communication.
No question that we started something
here that is still ongoing.
whether we opened some kind of portal
or triggered this phenomenon, something
is happening here that was not happening
before we played the tone.
It really does seem like we woke something
up or opened some kind of doorway and let a lot of energy
into this place.
Well, what we know so far is that there
is absolutely some energy source present here.
And then there's also compounding strangeness reported
by multiple experiences.
The ranch owner, as well as the deceased husband
of the ranch owner-- so we have those
two elements here in addition to whatever's
going on in the radio spectrum.
So there's absolutely some kind of measurable energy
here that is strange.
PAUL BEBAN: Yeah.
And luckily, we don't have enough information
to know whether we should be excited or scared.
I know.
NARRATOR: To learn more about the possible source
of dark energy at the ranch, Andy and Paul
are headed back to Taos to meet with David Morehouse, an expert
on an unorthodox data gathering procedure called remote viewing.
One of the things that really interests me about this place
is the fact that we're bringing in a remote viewing team.
And we've got a remote viewing experiment going
right now to help us try to understand
what's going on out here.
NARRATOR: Remote viewing is a surveillance technique developed
by the Defense Intelligence Agency
that has been used since the Cold War
to spy on our adversaries.
This method uses a team of psychics
who can see events, locations, and data from a distance.
Though controversial, Andy and Paul hope it might
lead to potential insights.
And one of the things I'm curious about
is this really strong, negative, dark energy that seems to be
affiliated with this location.
Having a remote viewing team to help
compare against what's been reported to us in the past
by the ranch owner and Chris O'Brien
is going to be really useful.
Yeah.
This is just one of those places where there's
so many ways to come at it.
I think we need to bring in everything we've got.
Absolutely.
NARRATOR: Dr. Morehouse has completed
the remote viewing study with his team
and is ready to share the results.
In this particular target, we had 50 remote viewers
from three different countries.
There are things that go on just with the spirit of this place
that I think is something that really intrigued the viewers.
NARRATOR: The remote viewers for Taos Ranch
were sent a map that was faded to 3% opacity.
The map had no indication of where the property was located.
The team of viewers then used trained psychic abilities
to draw pictures and write down what they
sensed as present at the ranch.
Morehouse then compiled all of the data
to present to Andy and Paul.
Most of the viewers that came back
with both verbal and visual sensory data
came back with a really uneasy feeling about this place.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: So the majority of the viewers
that participated in this exercise
all report having some negative energy related to the site
itself?
Actually, all 50 reported that.
Wow.
Unanimous.
Unanimous.
Is it common for a remote viewing
team to have unanimous experiences like what
you're describing here, where they all
sensed this negative energy?
When there's something overwhelmingly pronounced
about a place, it's not unusual for them to all pick up on it.
How would you say the intensity
of this particular target rated with your team
compared to some of the historical targets they've done?
It's up there with one of the darkest.
So this is one creepy drawing that came.
It's described as an ancient poltergeist,
an energy that's hanging over and watching this fortress.
Two things strike me about this drawing.
One is that the poltergeist image could be the same demon
that the ranch owner reported might
be present at this ranch house.
Absolutely.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: The other thing is,
just look at the similarity between that pueblo
and the actual house that sits on that property.
The fence line here that goes into a two-story building,
where the upper story is smaller than the lower story,
even the placement of the windows and the balcony
that would go right there--
Yeah.
--that's striking how many similarities
are in that one image.
You guys ready to see the next one?
Yeah.
There's 50 of these viewers.
Out of the 50, 31 sketched a portal or an opening.
Whoa.
DAVID MOREHOUSE: What is perceived
is it looks like a brilliant little sun,
a ball of fire that flies out of this portal
and moves across the sky.
PAUL BEBAN: It certainly is what Melinda described.
Bright light that came through the windows
that filled their home.
And then the abductions happened.
Lines up with this description.
The energy coming from this ranch
must be so intense that they're capturing
this on their first superficial scan.
DAVID MOREHOUSE: Yeah.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: It's remarkable, frighteningly so.
There's a reason she left.
It's all lining up in a really eerie fashion.
Well, this was excellent, Dr. Morehouse.
Thank you so much for your time and for your effort.
- Yeah, thanks, guys. - Yeah.
And thanks to your team. - I really appreciate it.
You bet.
I have no way of understanding how
those sketches from the remote viewing team
could be so accurate with the phenomena
that's been reported here.
What's so striking is how that whole,
that massive anomaly seems to stretch over the entire house.
I think we know what we do next.
We know with aerial anomalies that rockets
are always one way to go at it.
Rockets, they can possibly detect the anomaly upon launch.
We could get a physical response.
And we might trigger some kind of response
afterward that we see reflected in other phenomena.
With the nighttime investigation that we've already
run, we have absolutely seen this ranch respond to efforts
to engage the phenomenon.
We saw it with the Taos hum.
It's like we started a conversation with this ranch.
I want to see if it's willing to continue that conversation
or even change the conversation.
Rockets do seem like the right tool for this.
So I think we've got a plan.
This is our hottest of hot spots on this ranch.
OK.
The actual ranch house itself where
the actual ranch owner passed.
NARRATOR: The next day, Andy, Paul, Steve, and the rocket
experts from Loc Precision meet at Taos Ranch
to fire a rocket above the house, where the owner reported
most of the strange activity from the same location, where
the team played the Taos hum tone.
No question that we started something here
that is still ongoing, whether we opened some portal
or triggered this phenomenon, something
is happening here that was not happening
before we played the tone.
This ranch house is the reason we came here.
This rocket is our chance to see what data,
we can actually collect about the ranch house, the area
above the ranch house, and the relationship
between that anomaly and whatever was discovered
by the remote viewing team.
NARRATOR: In 2022, the team at Skinwalker Ranch
conducted a rocket test near the triangle that seemed to elicit
the appearance of a UAP that looked like it
disappeared into the mesa.
I want you to watch what happens
in the sky just above the mesa.
OK.
Watch how this thing emerges and watch the path that it takes.
PAUL BEBAN: It went behind the mesa.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Where did it go?
NARRATOR: The Skinwalker team believes it
may have flown into a portal.
Now, the team will launch a rocket
here into the suspected portal to see
how the phenomenon reacts.
It will be equipped with a GPS tracker
to monitor its flight path.
The one thing we did see is that--
Not to interrupt your conversation,
but it feels wonky over here.
I'm trying to keep my head on straight, honestly.
I'd be having goosebumps up the--
I don't know what's going on here.
It's the same what--
I don't know what it is.
It's just weird.
You can't explain it.
It's--
Well, so everybody just needs to be extra careful.
One thing we know about this place,
this place has bad energy.
But then to see Dave have some kind of energy reaction
at the front door of the house, it was really striking.
David, is this anything like you felt at Skinwalker Ranch?
Yeah, it's exactly.
NARRATOR: In 2021, Dave experienced similar symptoms
at Skinwalker Ranch.
Whoa, that was strong.
My hair in my arms would just stand up.
And it was weird.
It was a very fast wave, but it was very intense wave.
We've worked with Dave a lot.
And we know that he can be sensitive to these kinds
of things.
He picks up on these energies.
But to hear him say that this place feels exactly
like Skinwalker, when we know it's
similar to Skinwalker in so many other ways,
was, frankly, a little worrisome.
Dave, you said it was here, and then gone, right?
It was-- - Yeah.
It's acute.
It's gone.
Try to ignore it.
So you can do your thing here.
But it definitely gets it-- makes
you a foggy head for a minute.
NARRATOR: With Dave feeling better,
the team proceeds with their rocket launch,
100 feet from the entrance of the abandoned house.
When it comes to aerial anomalies,
rockets are the most comprehensive
way to poke the hornet's nest.
First, we might get some actual course deviation by the rocket.
Second, we might provoke some kind of response.
Maybe the overall dynamics will change.
Maybe we'll see some new data from the anomalies.
So these are the best ways to go at it.
You guys want to push a button?
I'll push that button.
Are you kidding me?
Good for countdown?
Absolutely.
I'm good.
Three, two, one.
[rocket launches]
MAN: Got it.
MAN: Wow.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Look at that visibility.
Awesome.
This is going to be right where we want it, right?
It is.
PAUL BEBAN: It looks like it's coming right at us.
Right back down over the house.
Beautiful.
I'm going to make sure I can get eyes
on the actual landing site.
GPS is not reading, guys.
PAUL BEBAN: Oh, no.
GPS is not reading, guys.
PAUL BEBAN: Oh, no.
NARRATOR: Andy, Paul, Steve Priola, and the Loc Precision
team are conducting a rocket test
in front of the Taos Ranch house,
where there might be a possible portal in the sky.
But during the launch, the GPS tracking system on the rocket
seems to be acting strangely.
PAUL BEBAN: Mike, do you have a range on it?
I don't.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: How often do you see fail, when you use this
in other rocket experiments?
I've flown these things dozens of times.
I've never had a failure like this.
All right, guys.
Looks like we had a good soft landing.
Everything's intact.
Look at that.
Nice and clean.
Good to go? - Let's go.
PAUL BEBAN: Let's do it. - OK.
Got it? - Yeah.
I got it.
So look at the GPS, guys.
What's going on?
Well, the weird thing is, even right now,
it's showing the direction of the house.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
You said the GPS was telling you where now?
It's at the house.
The GPS tracker is pointing you towards the house right now?
It's pointing me towards the house.
The GPS tracker is right here.
329 feet.
You can see the direction.
Paul, you've got to see this.
Look literally at the direction.
Look what the head is.
It shows us that way at 318 feet away.
Right at the house.
The rocket is here.
The GPS is actually pointing toward the house,
even though we have the rocket with the GPS beacon
right next to us.
It doesn't make any sense at all.
So how do we want to--
do we want to split up?
No.
I'm not splitting any teams up around this place.
OK.
Let's get this guy to our original starting point.
And then let's see what the GPS is telling us from there.
We can always come right back here and find
a spot that's 318 feet away.
Easy enough to retrace our footsteps.
And let's just see what happens as we
go back toward our workstation.
And let's take the long way around.
This is interesting. Let's rock.
Let's do this.
Mike, any changes on the GPS?
None.
Still pointing directly at the house.
What about the distance?
Distance has gone down to 220 feet.
Wow.
Pulling us right in there.
What is going on?
It looks like the is just not tracking.
It's almost as if the house is either drawing in the signal,
just confusing our electronics or drawing us in.
So is it still pointing towards the house
now we're in a different position?
Right towards the house.
- Right towards the house. - Right towards the house.
What's the distance?
125 feet.
Unbelievable.
That's it.
It's definitely drawing right there.
PAUL BEBAN: There's something that is drawing that signal.
What I'm wondering right now, if we did punch
through the heart of the anomaly over the house,
I wonder if the anomaly picked up the frequency
of the GPS tracker.
Wow. Yeah.
I don't know.
And now, it's mirroring that frequency.
If you were trying to communicate,
that is exactly how you would communicate.
You would mirror back, whatever the person trying to communicate
with you was doing.
That's my hypothesis.
What else could have caused this?
All I know is that this GPS unit is tuned to this very
specific frequency.
Yes.
At the moment of launch, it was pointing at that rocket.
Yeah.
Now, it is pointing at that house consistently.
Yeah.
There's no power in the house.
It's been abandoned for months and months.
How is it transmitting anything?
That's not human, whatever.
PAUL BEBAN: It doesn't make any sense.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: All right. Let's follow the GPS.
I want to see what this thing says.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Can you give us a countdown?
Fifty feet, 30 feet.
Yeah.
It's the house.
Holy crap.
It's the house.
I have goosebumps.
100%.
PAUL BEBAN: You do.
Both of you guys.
Absolutely.
Twenty feet directly inside the front door.
- Paul? - Yeah.
Let's do it.
Mike, you up for it?
Yeah.
How are you guys feeling?
I've got goosebumps because this is not--
this is-- - Just weird
- --weird. - And you're the point, man.
So it's about to get weirder because you got to be in front.
- Five feet in front of us. - All right.
- Worse when we were kids. - You guys ready?
- Yeah. - Yeah.
Let's see who's on.
[bleep] this.
We have to go back in the house.
What we're seeing shouldn't be possible.
There shouldn't be a signal in this house, when the only
recorded, documented receiver is sitting
out there laying on the ground.
Where is it directing us?
Directing us 170 degrees behind at 12 feet.
It's something communicating with us.
It drew us right to this door.
This door is what it drew us to.
I put the rocket down so--
PAUL BEBAN: The rocket's at the launch pad.
It's just sitting.
The whole time we were marching back here, there
was only one direction, only one location.
And it was rock solid.
We've started some kind of communication.
The question is, what is it trying to say?
I feel like we have amazing data.
Yeah.
But I want to get away from this house.
I want to see what the rocket has to tell us.
And we've got to put all this together and take
this to the Skinwalker team. - Yeah.
We've got a lot of work to do, but this is incredible.
Let's just pull the payload.
The front threshold, the threshold of the house.
PAUL BEBAN: This doesn't make any sense at all.
MAN: Just absolutely wild.
ERIK BARD: Paul and Andy, it's good to have you back.
Guys, I'm really interested to hear more details about Taos.
So let's see what you got.
We got lots of really interesting data,
and some, frankly, unforgettable experiences.
There's some really disturbing stories.
The woman, who we're calling Melinda to protect her identity,
wants nothing to do with this place.
She literally described it as running for her life.
And what we found was some really compelling and strange
data that seems to confirm it.
Absolutely.
So one of the first things we wanted to do
was start projecting a tone into the atmosphere
to see if we could measure some change
when we replicated what we thought might be the Taos hum.
We decided to focus in on 55 hertz
because that was a specific frequency zone that Steve
Priola, the MUFON investigator, had measured
in his own investigation.
OK.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: This experiment, we set up right
in front of the ranch house, where they claim to be
abducted right from their room.
So after launching the 55 hertz tone,
we started seeing a change from baseline.
That's not us.
And you can see the energy changes.
So this didn't start until after we
turned on the tone generator.
You see this at 1.633 gigahertz?
Yes, sir.
And how long did it last after?
Once it started, it just didn't stop, even
after we turned off the tone.
Really?
Where is it all coming from?
Look at this.
Whoa.
That's really odd.
I don't know what that is, but it's interesting
that it seems to be triggered by playing that particular tone.
And Travis and I are always cautioning one another.
We say it that way, seems to be triggered.
All we can really say is it's correlative.
Yeah.
We can't prove causation here, but we
can say, well, it wasn't there until we
turned the other thing on.
It's got to mean something.
Well, what?
I'm not sure yet.
Coming out of our night investigation,
we felt confident that we had identified
some measurable activity in the RF spectrum.
So because we knew we were hunting for portals,
we decided to call on the Loc Precision team.
And we gave them a very clear idea
of what we were trying to accomplish
and what we were looking for.
OK.
So here is the rocket launch from right
in front of the ranch house.
[rocket launches]
Once we recovered the rocket, even with the GPS tracker
right next to it, the tracker is pointing back toward the house.
Keep in mind what you got is a GPS on the rocket.
It also has a little RF transmitter.
And it's sending a signal with the data.
And then it's telling you, OK, that signal
is coming from over there.
That's right.
So both the GPS and the RF signal
were saying they were coming from the house.
And not just coming from the house once or twice,
consistently from the time that we retrieved the rocket.
Even as we covered ground heading and distance
would accurately change to point us back towards not just
the house, but the front door.
What?
It's pointing right at it.
But look where the head is.
Yeah.
You can see right at the house.
The rocket is here.
What in the hell?
It wouldn't be sending--
see, that is sending a specific data package.
Yes.
That's something has to literally take the signal
and reroute it and make the signal look like it's
coming from the house.
Or you've got another transmitter over there.
The house is depowered.
The electricity is not on.
We haven't been in the house aside
from the initial investigation.
We didn't leave anything in the house.
And upon retrieval of the rocket,
the signal was coming from the house.
What?
We've surmised that something's taking
our signals, and sometimes even our voices
and repeating them back to us.
We had that happen several times this summer.
We've actually had times where we
thought our mic packs were being copied and then rebroadcast.
What is that?
What the heck?
Why is that picking us up?
It's picking this all up.
That's not unlike what you have happening here.
So there's becoming a precedent being set here
that at these weird places, our RF
spectrum that we are broadcasting
is being cloned and rebroadcast.
The whole sequence of events in your work
here at this location, it sounds like you're coming in
and then you started a conversation.
That's a creative interpretation of it.
But you played some sounds, right?
So you're broadcasting signals, and then you
start ramping up the activity with your experiments.
And then things seem to just get stranger and stranger.
It felt like we went over a tripwire of some sort
and opened a door using the Taos hum frequency.
That's when it all really started, especially as we went
through the process with the remote viewers carrying out
the rocket experiment, it felt like the ranch was trying
to beckon us into the house.
And so the big question is, what
is in that house that cloned that signal so that you
guys could detect it like that?
It's pretty bizarre.
I've only ever seen that one other place.
And that's here in Skinwalker Ranch.
How did this end?
Did the signal Stop or did you just leave?
We left.
We just left.
So as far as you know, it never stopped.
Correct.
That's right.
It felt so good to leave that house, go back to the hotel,
pack our bags, and then get the hell out of Taos.
Yeah, honestly.
We're excited for you to go to this place.
[laughing]
Well, it's interesting that you say,
there have been times here where we've
all said that we're ready to just
pack up and get out of here.
So there is a dark psychological aspect to this kind of work.
It seems like you guys felt it. - Yeah.
We gave ourselves a good scare.
And I think, mission accomplished, I guess.
You brought us some great data.
Yes.
And let's keep casting that broad net.
TRAVIS TAYLOR: Great work.
Can't wait to see what you do next.
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