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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,075 --> 00:00:08,675 Nate! Finally. 2 00:00:08,676 --> 00:00:10,643 Buddy, I can't believe you're missing this, dude. 3 00:00:10,644 --> 00:00:11,811 The view up here is insane. 4 00:00:11,812 --> 00:00:14,814 The sunset on top of the bridge is mind-blowing. 5 00:00:14,815 --> 00:00:16,683 They weren't joking when they said... 6 00:00:16,684 --> 00:00:18,251 What'd you say? 7 00:00:18,252 --> 00:00:21,321 I'm in Chinatown. There's... there's some festival going on. 8 00:00:21,322 --> 00:00:22,455 Huh? What? 9 00:00:22,456 --> 00:00:23,590 I can barely hear you. 10 00:00:23,591 --> 00:00:25,425 Sorry, Tyler, there's people everywhere. 11 00:00:25,426 --> 00:00:26,693 Where are you? 12 00:00:26,694 --> 00:00:28,261 Yeah, I can't hear you. Say that again. 13 00:00:28,262 --> 00:00:30,597 Hang on a minute. I'm gonna move away from the crowd. 14 00:00:30,598 --> 00:00:32,865 Huh? Can you say that again, man? Where are you? 15 00:00:32,866 --> 00:00:35,502 Oh, it is chaos down here. 16 00:00:35,503 --> 00:00:37,337 You didn't show, so I tried calling you. 17 00:00:37,338 --> 00:00:38,471 Yeah, sorry. 18 00:00:38,472 --> 00:00:39,839 It's all good, I mean... 19 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,509 I mean, the tour was at 8:00, but where you been? 20 00:00:42,510 --> 00:00:45,445 The trolls were waiting for me in the hotel lobby. 21 00:00:45,446 --> 00:00:47,480 Trolls? You lose 'em? 22 00:00:47,481 --> 00:00:49,516 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so. - Okay, good. 23 00:00:49,517 --> 00:00:51,684 Come to me. Jump in a cab and I'll meet you when we get down. 24 00:00:51,685 --> 00:00:54,321 - Hello? - Okay, I'll be there soon. 25 00:00:54,322 --> 00:00:55,688 - Oh! - Nate? 26 00:00:55,689 --> 00:00:57,557 - The hell was that? - Nate? 27 00:00:57,558 --> 00:00:58,958 Oh! 28 00:00:58,959 --> 00:01:00,193 Hello? Nate? 29 00:01:00,194 --> 00:01:01,728 You still with me, buddy? 30 00:01:01,729 --> 00:01:02,929 Nate! 31 00:01:02,930 --> 00:01:04,497 Stop messing around, dude. 32 00:01:04,498 --> 00:01:06,467 Hello? 33 00:01:07,668 --> 00:01:08,835 Nate! 34 00:01:10,138 --> 00:01:12,272 Hello? Nate? 35 00:01:15,276 --> 00:01:16,409 What's going on, buddy? 36 00:01:16,410 --> 00:01:17,910 Ugh. Shooter. 37 00:01:17,911 --> 00:01:20,079 Did you say 'shooter'? Dude, it's hard to hear you. 38 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,381 Did you say 'shooter'? 39 00:01:21,382 --> 00:01:23,450 - Someone's trying to kill me. - What are you... 40 00:01:23,451 --> 00:01:24,851 What are you talking about? 41 00:01:24,852 --> 00:01:26,653 Okay, you need to give me your location, man. 42 00:01:26,654 --> 00:01:28,188 Like, a street name, anything. 43 00:01:28,189 --> 00:01:30,022 - Just give me something. - Ugh. 44 00:01:30,023 --> 00:01:31,758 Nate? 45 00:01:31,759 --> 00:01:33,726 Nate, buddy? 46 00:01:33,727 --> 00:01:34,794 Talk to me, Nate! 47 00:01:34,795 --> 00:01:36,630 Nate?! 48 00:01:37,431 --> 00:01:38,932 Dammit! Nate! 49 00:01:39,900 --> 00:01:41,434 Nate, talk to me! 50 00:01:41,435 --> 00:01:44,972 Buddy! Nate! 51 00:02:20,774 --> 00:02:22,442 Special Agent Mackey, NCIS. 52 00:02:23,911 --> 00:02:25,546 Is there a problem? 53 00:02:27,315 --> 00:02:28,916 Thank you, Special Agent Mackey. 54 00:02:36,056 --> 00:02:38,225 Chief Petty Officer Nathaniel 'Nate' Holbrook, 55 00:02:38,226 --> 00:02:40,092 stationed out of Mayport, Florida. 56 00:02:40,093 --> 00:02:41,461 He was out here on leave. 57 00:02:41,462 --> 00:02:43,162 Flew out with his brother a few days ago. 58 00:02:43,163 --> 00:02:44,697 Thank you. 59 00:02:44,698 --> 00:02:46,065 Welcome to Sydney. 60 00:02:49,102 --> 00:02:52,138 The shots were fired about a hundred meters down the road. 61 00:02:52,139 --> 00:02:54,375 That's where he caught the wound to his torso. 62 00:02:56,176 --> 00:02:57,977 Stuffing from a toy koala. 63 00:02:57,978 --> 00:02:59,512 The shot went right through them both. 64 00:02:59,513 --> 00:03:01,981 Poor bastard ran till he was brought down. 65 00:03:01,982 --> 00:03:04,251 Second round must have gone through his heart 66 00:03:04,252 --> 00:03:05,786 if he dropped like that. 67 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,256 He would have... He would have died in seconds. 68 00:03:09,257 --> 00:03:11,190 - Anyone else hit? - No. 69 00:03:11,191 --> 00:03:13,460 Packed street, and the killer 70 00:03:13,461 --> 00:03:15,194 focuses his fire on our boy. 71 00:03:15,195 --> 00:03:16,663 Why? 72 00:03:16,664 --> 00:03:19,332 Yeah, he seems to have a fan base too. 73 00:03:19,333 --> 00:03:22,135 - Holbrook, right? - Yeah, Nathaniel Holbrook. 74 00:03:25,038 --> 00:03:27,040 Justice for Zoe! 75 00:03:34,882 --> 00:03:36,549 Justice for Zoe. 76 00:03:36,550 --> 00:03:38,985 True crime podcast superfans. 77 00:03:38,986 --> 00:03:41,321 Marsh Family Murders. 78 00:03:41,322 --> 00:03:43,323 It's a podcast based on an Aussie family, 79 00:03:43,324 --> 00:03:44,524 two parents and a daughter, 80 00:03:44,525 --> 00:03:46,559 who were murdered on Thanksgiving Day. 81 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:47,560 What happened in the end? 82 00:03:47,561 --> 00:03:49,496 Well, according to this, 83 00:03:49,497 --> 00:03:51,063 absolutely nothing. 84 00:03:51,064 --> 00:03:53,199 No one ever stood trial for their deaths. 85 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,701 But the main suspect 86 00:03:54,702 --> 00:03:56,903 was US Navy Chief Petty Officer... 87 00:03:56,904 --> 00:03:58,572 Nate Holbrook. 88 00:04:00,173 --> 00:04:02,809 Nate used to date the murdered daughter, Zoe Marsh. 89 00:04:02,810 --> 00:04:05,779 Looks like someone got their justice in the end. 90 00:04:10,918 --> 00:04:13,353 Sorry, little fella. 91 00:04:13,354 --> 00:04:15,121 You're supposed to be a protected species. 92 00:04:15,122 --> 00:04:16,490 Evie! 93 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,128 Got another one. 94 00:04:23,564 --> 00:04:25,231 Come on. 95 00:04:25,232 --> 00:04:26,933 Check it out. 96 00:04:26,934 --> 00:04:29,536 ...308, full metal jacket. 97 00:04:29,537 --> 00:04:31,471 Favored by long-distance shooters. 98 00:04:31,472 --> 00:04:33,040 That's comforting. 99 00:04:35,108 --> 00:04:37,478 Sounds like we got ourselves a sniper. 100 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:40,012 Angle of fire suggests the shooter 101 00:04:40,013 --> 00:04:42,349 had an elevated position. 102 00:04:42,350 --> 00:04:44,184 Plenty of options. 103 00:04:45,285 --> 00:04:46,854 Let's narrow 'em down, then. 104 00:04:56,330 --> 00:04:58,965 Damn! Hell of a shot. 105 00:04:58,966 --> 00:05:01,401 Yeah, I could make that. 106 00:05:01,402 --> 00:05:03,235 Girl, in your dreams. 107 00:05:03,236 --> 00:05:05,772 I took out Hansie from a moving boat. 108 00:05:05,773 --> 00:05:07,306 A croc chalked up that hit. 109 00:05:07,307 --> 00:05:08,976 - Oh, whatever. - Ugh! 110 00:05:10,678 --> 00:05:12,946 Shooter doesn't seem bothered about leaving evidence. 111 00:05:21,489 --> 00:05:22,990 D. 112 00:05:26,660 --> 00:05:28,094 What is that? Opal? 113 00:05:28,095 --> 00:05:30,930 Yeah, not just any opal. Black opal. 114 00:05:30,931 --> 00:05:32,465 Rarest of the rare. 115 00:05:32,466 --> 00:05:34,033 Not something you leave behind. 116 00:05:34,034 --> 00:05:36,036 Unless you're making a statement. 117 00:05:48,916 --> 00:05:52,084 Zoe Marsh, her mother, Jacquie, and her father, Brendan, 118 00:05:52,085 --> 00:05:53,753 sat down to celebrate Thanksgiving 119 00:05:53,754 --> 00:05:58,357 with Zoe's boyfriend, US Navy sailor Nate Holbrook. 120 00:05:58,358 --> 00:05:59,659 None of the Marsh family 121 00:05:59,660 --> 00:06:01,761 made it through to the pumpkin pie dessert. 122 00:06:01,762 --> 00:06:04,397 Zoe's boyfriend was found covered in blood, 123 00:06:04,398 --> 00:06:05,632 clutching a shotgun, 124 00:06:05,633 --> 00:06:07,934 with gunpowder residue on his hands. 125 00:06:07,935 --> 00:06:12,071 He had no plausible alibi, yet the case never went to trial. 126 00:06:12,072 --> 00:06:16,142 Five years on and a lot of people are still asking why. 127 00:06:16,143 --> 00:06:17,744 I'm Lucinda Wainwright. 128 00:06:17,745 --> 00:06:22,181 Join me as I find answers to what really happened that day. 129 00:06:24,084 --> 00:06:25,151 The real mystery is 130 00:06:25,152 --> 00:06:26,986 why they were celebrating Thanksgiving. 131 00:06:26,987 --> 00:06:28,220 It was Thanksgiving Day. 132 00:06:28,221 --> 00:06:30,923 It's not an Aussie thing, D. You know that, right? 133 00:06:30,924 --> 00:06:32,459 Y'all appropriate Halloween. 134 00:06:32,460 --> 00:06:33,960 You know, why miss out on a chance 135 00:06:33,961 --> 00:06:36,362 to eat turkey and cornbread with your nearest and dearest? 136 00:06:36,363 --> 00:06:37,630 Because turkey's a dry bird. 137 00:06:37,631 --> 00:06:38,631 See, now, 138 00:06:38,632 --> 00:06:40,433 you ain't tried my grandma's turkey. 139 00:06:40,434 --> 00:06:42,802 The trick is buttermilk brine. 140 00:06:42,803 --> 00:06:44,103 Three whole days. 141 00:06:44,104 --> 00:06:46,506 Then there's the butter that she slips under the skin. 142 00:06:46,507 --> 00:06:47,440 D... 143 00:06:47,441 --> 00:06:49,008 Bacon grease all over the breast meat. 144 00:06:49,009 --> 00:06:51,644 Then that special basting of her garlic butter every half-hour. 145 00:06:51,645 --> 00:06:53,646 D, come on, you're giving me hunger pains. 146 00:06:53,647 --> 00:06:55,114 Yeah, giving me a coronary. 147 00:06:55,115 --> 00:06:57,517 Does the podcast have a theory as to motive? 148 00:06:57,518 --> 00:06:59,285 Episode 2: The Letters. 149 00:06:59,286 --> 00:07:01,821 Covers Nate's possible motive. 150 00:07:01,822 --> 00:07:03,490 According to the podcast, 151 00:07:03,491 --> 00:07:05,792 Zoe was suspected of cheating on Nate. 152 00:07:05,793 --> 00:07:08,394 He supposedly found letters to her from a mystery lover 153 00:07:08,395 --> 00:07:09,796 and just snapped. 154 00:07:09,797 --> 00:07:10,863 Hmm. 155 00:07:10,864 --> 00:07:11,964 Theory is 156 00:07:11,965 --> 00:07:13,733 Nate then draped the letters 157 00:07:13,734 --> 00:07:16,135 over Zoe's body after he shot her. 158 00:07:16,136 --> 00:07:18,270 - The police charged him, right? - Initially. 159 00:07:18,271 --> 00:07:20,540 But the Department of Public Prosecutions 160 00:07:20,541 --> 00:07:21,941 declined to prosecute, 161 00:07:21,942 --> 00:07:25,812 as featured on Episode 6: Justice Never Served. 162 00:07:25,813 --> 00:07:27,514 So what happened? Not enough evidence? 163 00:07:27,515 --> 00:07:30,182 See, to answer that, y'all want Episode 7: Cover-Up. 164 00:07:30,183 --> 00:07:32,384 Which is part 1 of 2. It's a banger. 165 00:07:32,385 --> 00:07:33,886 Who did the covering up? 166 00:07:33,887 --> 00:07:37,356 Well, according to this, we did. The US Navy. 167 00:07:37,357 --> 00:07:39,559 The NCIS case at the time 168 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,528 states Nate was granted emergency leave. 169 00:07:41,529 --> 00:07:43,029 Once he returned to the States, 170 00:07:43,030 --> 00:07:44,897 charges were mysteriously dropped. 171 00:07:44,898 --> 00:07:47,367 - I want that file. - Sitting in your inbox. 172 00:07:48,168 --> 00:07:50,336 Hey, Blue, how are we going, uh, fingerprint-wise? 173 00:07:50,337 --> 00:07:53,372 Uh, not very wise. No prints. 174 00:07:53,373 --> 00:07:55,675 But I'm running the DNA from the coffee cup 175 00:07:55,676 --> 00:07:57,409 and cigarettes from the sniper's nest. 176 00:07:57,410 --> 00:08:00,146 Figure we'll check out the gun ranges around town. 177 00:08:00,147 --> 00:08:02,381 Guy was a hotshot. Only comes with practice. 178 00:08:02,382 --> 00:08:03,716 Or natural talent. 179 00:08:03,717 --> 00:08:05,552 Bit of luck, we match the gun and ammo 180 00:08:05,553 --> 00:08:07,354 with the names from the podcast's subscriber list. 181 00:08:16,764 --> 00:08:20,232 Now, um, I believe you have my brother's body. 182 00:08:20,233 --> 00:08:21,868 Appreciate everything you're... you're doing 183 00:08:21,869 --> 00:08:23,736 to catch whoever killed my little brother. 184 00:08:23,737 --> 00:08:25,905 Why did Nate come back after all these years? 185 00:08:25,906 --> 00:08:27,940 Wainwright got in contact. 186 00:08:27,941 --> 00:08:29,909 Sweet-talked Nate into coming to Australia 187 00:08:29,910 --> 00:08:31,110 to tell his side of events. 188 00:08:31,111 --> 00:08:33,412 - Nate went on the podcast? - Yeah. 189 00:08:33,413 --> 00:08:37,651 He recorded a vlog interview yesterday with Lucinda. 190 00:08:39,887 --> 00:08:42,055 The Marshes were like a family to Nate. 191 00:08:42,990 --> 00:08:44,591 Zoe was his sweetheart. 192 00:08:44,592 --> 00:08:45,958 He couldn't stand the thought 193 00:08:45,959 --> 00:08:49,229 that the actual killer was still out there, so... 194 00:08:50,898 --> 00:08:53,967 I mean, I came out to make sure he had someone in his corner. 195 00:08:58,071 --> 00:09:00,840 I had to perform a full autopsy. 196 00:09:00,841 --> 00:09:02,642 I've, uh, sewn him back up, 197 00:09:02,643 --> 00:09:04,276 but you might find... 198 00:09:04,277 --> 00:09:07,014 ...my handiwork a little confronting. 199 00:09:10,517 --> 00:09:13,586 I'd like to say goodbye, if that's all right. 200 00:09:13,587 --> 00:09:15,823 That's fair enough. 201 00:09:32,272 --> 00:09:33,741 Hmm. 202 00:09:35,542 --> 00:09:38,611 He... uh, he worked with his hands, I see. 203 00:09:38,612 --> 00:09:40,947 I'm sorry. 204 00:09:40,948 --> 00:09:43,650 Yeah, um, he was a machinist's mate. 205 00:09:43,651 --> 00:09:45,117 He said pulling engines apart 206 00:09:45,118 --> 00:09:46,819 and putting them back together was... 207 00:09:46,820 --> 00:09:49,021 Well, it was his happy place. 208 00:09:49,022 --> 00:09:50,423 Mm-hm. 209 00:09:51,558 --> 00:09:54,060 God, I'm so sorry, bro. 210 00:09:54,061 --> 00:09:56,196 I let you down. 211 00:10:02,369 --> 00:10:03,736 Listen, son. 212 00:10:03,737 --> 00:10:05,305 You take your time. 213 00:10:06,339 --> 00:10:10,376 I mean, the grief of losing someone close is unimaginable. 214 00:10:10,377 --> 00:10:11,712 But... 215 00:10:13,881 --> 00:10:18,350 Losing family, it's... it's on another level entirely. 216 00:10:18,351 --> 00:10:20,020 You speaking from experience? 217 00:10:21,054 --> 00:10:22,890 Hmm. 218 00:10:24,224 --> 00:10:28,527 Just one thing that's been bugging me. 219 00:10:28,528 --> 00:10:31,030 Your brother, did he own a toy koala? 220 00:10:31,031 --> 00:10:33,332 Clarence. 221 00:10:33,333 --> 00:10:34,701 - Oh? - Yeah, we, uh... 222 00:10:34,702 --> 00:10:36,703 I bought him for... 223 00:10:36,704 --> 00:10:39,205 ...for, uh, our niece. 224 00:10:39,206 --> 00:10:42,142 We made sure Clarence photobombed all of our pictures. 225 00:10:44,978 --> 00:10:48,248 We were actually gonna go hiking in the Blue Mountains today. 226 00:10:49,249 --> 00:10:50,751 I'm sorry. 227 00:10:52,786 --> 00:10:54,587 I'm sorry for your loss. 228 00:11:05,398 --> 00:11:07,133 I pulled the cold case files. 229 00:11:07,134 --> 00:11:09,702 Maybe shed some light on whether Nate really killed that family. 230 00:11:09,703 --> 00:11:11,203 It's kind of beside the point. 231 00:11:11,204 --> 00:11:12,371 All that really matters 232 00:11:12,372 --> 00:11:13,940 is whether or not our killer believed he did. 233 00:11:15,108 --> 00:11:17,978 Hi. Come on through. 234 00:11:21,114 --> 00:11:23,582 Oh, my ex enjoyed The Chancery Lane Killings. 235 00:11:23,583 --> 00:11:26,919 Used to listen to it on long road trips down the coast. 236 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,755 Killer went down for it in the end, 237 00:11:28,756 --> 00:11:30,923 thanks to your investigation, if I remember. 238 00:11:30,924 --> 00:11:32,959 I like to think I played a small part 239 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:33,993 in reopening the case. 240 00:11:33,994 --> 00:11:36,929 What about you, Agent Mackey? 241 00:11:36,930 --> 00:11:39,866 I liked Serial. That one of yours? 242 00:11:39,867 --> 00:11:40,900 No. 243 00:11:40,901 --> 00:11:42,135 Hm. 244 00:11:44,604 --> 00:11:46,739 Maybe we should talk about Nate Holbrook's murder. 245 00:11:46,740 --> 00:11:49,909 Yeah, that was horrible. The poor brother. 246 00:11:49,910 --> 00:11:52,378 Do you have any leads yet? 247 00:11:52,379 --> 00:11:54,613 Ah, running a few angles. 248 00:11:54,614 --> 00:11:56,816 Internet vigilantism is one of them. 249 00:11:56,817 --> 00:11:58,951 Really? As in one of my listeners? 250 00:11:58,952 --> 00:12:02,621 #Justice4ZoeMarsh had a big presence at our crime scene. 251 00:12:02,622 --> 00:12:04,691 Well, word travels fast. People care. 252 00:12:05,692 --> 00:12:08,160 People who'd be willing to take matters into their own hands? 253 00:12:08,161 --> 00:12:12,464 I mean, I have over a million subscribers. How would I know? 254 00:12:12,465 --> 00:12:13,800 You got a chat room? 255 00:12:13,801 --> 00:12:16,836 Anyone use violent language directed at Nate? 256 00:12:16,837 --> 00:12:17,837 Some. 257 00:12:17,838 --> 00:12:18,938 But would any of them 258 00:12:18,939 --> 00:12:20,406 take their frustration beyond the keyboard? 259 00:12:20,407 --> 00:12:22,075 I really couldn't say. 260 00:12:22,843 --> 00:12:26,078 - You interviewed Nate yesterday. - He reached out. 261 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:28,647 We heard it was the other way around. 262 00:12:28,648 --> 00:12:30,482 No, he was desperate to clear his name. 263 00:12:30,483 --> 00:12:32,452 I just gave him the opportunity. 264 00:12:33,386 --> 00:12:35,221 I'm gonna need a copy of that recording. 265 00:12:35,222 --> 00:12:36,823 Sure. 266 00:12:36,824 --> 00:12:38,991 You know, if Nate's killer is 267 00:12:38,992 --> 00:12:41,293 some sort of internet vigilante, 268 00:12:41,294 --> 00:12:44,297 chances are they listen to my podcast, right? 269 00:12:45,398 --> 00:12:46,332 So? 270 00:12:46,333 --> 00:12:48,200 So you should come on my show 271 00:12:48,201 --> 00:12:50,302 and talk to them direct. 272 00:12:50,303 --> 00:12:51,838 You know, maybe that's not such a crazy idea... 273 00:12:51,839 --> 00:12:54,140 - That is a crazy idea. - Oh, go on. 274 00:12:54,141 --> 00:12:56,475 We could go live. 275 00:12:56,476 --> 00:12:59,178 You can engage with my listeners directly. 276 00:12:59,179 --> 00:13:00,480 And who knows? 277 00:13:01,381 --> 00:13:03,650 You might even catch a break. 278 00:13:11,591 --> 00:13:13,260 Thanks for your time. 279 00:13:24,704 --> 00:13:27,073 - Can I help you? - Luka Litchfield? 280 00:13:27,074 --> 00:13:28,674 Yep, that's me. 281 00:13:28,675 --> 00:13:30,509 Special Agent Jackson, NCIS. 282 00:13:30,510 --> 00:13:33,746 Constable Evie Cooper, AFP. We called ahead. 283 00:13:34,747 --> 00:13:36,215 Thought you said lunchtime. 284 00:13:36,216 --> 00:13:38,050 We've been to every gun range in Sydney. 285 00:13:38,051 --> 00:13:39,351 You're lucky last. 286 00:13:39,352 --> 00:13:42,188 Oh, remind me to buy a lottery ticket. 287 00:13:43,256 --> 00:13:44,290 We're gonna need a list 288 00:13:44,291 --> 00:13:45,524 of all your target shooters 289 00:13:45,525 --> 00:13:47,393 and their registered firearms with your club. 290 00:13:47,394 --> 00:13:49,028 Specifically high-caliber rifles 291 00:13:49,029 --> 00:13:51,999 firing .308 full metal jacket rounds. 292 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:55,567 Oh, we've got a new fandangled system, 293 00:13:55,568 --> 00:13:56,768 so it'll take me a beat. 294 00:13:56,769 --> 00:13:58,105 Oh, we can wait. 295 00:14:02,109 --> 00:14:03,342 Ooh! 296 00:14:03,343 --> 00:14:05,577 - While we do... - Really? 297 00:14:05,578 --> 00:14:08,447 You seriously wanna get shown up, soldier boy? 298 00:14:08,448 --> 00:14:09,882 Hope you brought your textbook, 299 00:14:09,883 --> 00:14:11,283 'cause I'm taking you to school. 300 00:14:11,284 --> 00:14:13,786 Oh. 301 00:14:20,060 --> 00:14:21,293 Whoo-hoo-hoo! 302 00:14:22,896 --> 00:14:25,764 Four center circle, two outside. 303 00:14:25,765 --> 00:14:28,100 Three center circle. 304 00:14:28,101 --> 00:14:30,436 That one is outside the line, D. 305 00:14:30,437 --> 00:14:31,737 On the line. 306 00:14:31,738 --> 00:14:34,674 NRL rules, baby. On the line is out. 307 00:14:44,952 --> 00:14:47,587 - Three center circle. - Three outside. 308 00:14:48,488 --> 00:14:50,123 We tied again. 309 00:14:51,024 --> 00:14:53,459 Go again? Next one wins? 310 00:14:53,460 --> 00:14:55,294 Oi, you two. 311 00:14:55,295 --> 00:14:57,796 Sorry, I got into the register, but it's telling me 312 00:14:57,797 --> 00:15:00,299 the printer's not connected or something. 313 00:15:00,300 --> 00:15:01,934 Oh, yeah, yeah, email's fine. 314 00:15:01,935 --> 00:15:04,703 We're under the gun, so to speak. 315 00:15:10,477 --> 00:15:13,079 I don't know what the hell happened that day. 316 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,346 You know, I wish I did. 317 00:15:14,347 --> 00:15:16,482 And where were you at the time of the murders? 318 00:15:16,483 --> 00:15:18,150 Well, party was going well. 319 00:15:18,151 --> 00:15:20,319 You know, we were having a good time. 320 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,989 Um, I went out to get some beer. 321 00:15:22,990 --> 00:15:26,093 When I got back, Zoe... 322 00:15:27,394 --> 00:15:28,895 Her entire family... 323 00:15:30,863 --> 00:15:32,598 There was a lot of blood. 324 00:15:32,599 --> 00:15:34,366 I got it all over me. 325 00:15:34,367 --> 00:15:37,003 You were clocked leaving the liquor store at 2:25, 326 00:15:37,004 --> 00:15:39,205 but you didn't call the police until 3:30. 327 00:15:39,206 --> 00:15:40,806 - What happened in the interim? - Yeah. 328 00:15:40,807 --> 00:15:42,341 I got a flat tire on the way home. 329 00:15:42,342 --> 00:15:45,344 I had no jack in the back of my pickup, 330 00:15:45,345 --> 00:15:47,046 so I had to use what I had. 331 00:15:47,047 --> 00:15:48,714 I've been over this. 332 00:15:48,715 --> 00:15:51,350 Seriously? The old flat-tire alibi? 333 00:15:51,351 --> 00:15:53,352 What does he think this is, Murder, She Wrote? 334 00:15:53,353 --> 00:15:54,853 - Is anyone buying this? - What, the alibi? 335 00:15:54,854 --> 00:15:57,523 Or the fact that you name- checked a 40-year-old TV show? 336 00:15:57,524 --> 00:15:59,558 - Come on. - You're on the news, boss. 337 00:15:59,559 --> 00:16:01,727 Or should I say, you are the news. 338 00:16:01,728 --> 00:16:04,963 In the latest installment of the Marsh Family Murders, 339 00:16:04,964 --> 00:16:06,898 the net widens as NCIS 340 00:16:06,899 --> 00:16:08,867 investigate Nate Holbrook's murder. 341 00:16:08,868 --> 00:16:10,736 Will they unveil the truth 342 00:16:10,737 --> 00:16:13,140 or will the cover-up continue? 343 00:16:15,675 --> 00:16:17,909 - We should go on her show. - She's baiting us. 344 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:20,212 That's been up there, what, half an hour. 345 00:16:20,213 --> 00:16:22,514 - Have a go at all the likes. - I'm not doing it. 346 00:16:22,515 --> 00:16:25,717 Come on, she's offering us a chance to connect directly 347 00:16:25,718 --> 00:16:27,253 with millions of listeners 348 00:16:27,254 --> 00:16:28,720 who might be able to help us with the case. 349 00:16:28,721 --> 00:16:32,524 It is a podcast, JD, and we're cops. At least I am. 350 00:16:32,525 --> 00:16:35,094 Chances are Nate's killer's gonna tune in. 351 00:16:35,095 --> 00:16:38,730 And when they do, I want us to be there. 352 00:16:49,676 --> 00:16:52,211 For the record, this is one of your stupider ideas. 353 00:16:52,212 --> 00:16:53,679 You really don't like her, do you? 354 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:54,880 I have no opinion either way. 355 00:16:54,881 --> 00:16:56,915 Is it 'cause of her success in solving crime? 356 00:16:56,916 --> 00:16:58,016 Let's be clear. 357 00:16:58,017 --> 00:17:00,819 She sells advertising space, I solve crime. 358 00:17:02,222 --> 00:17:05,257 Hey, just remember, when you speak, to modulate your voice. 359 00:17:05,258 --> 00:17:07,059 You don't want the listeners falling asleep 360 00:17:07,060 --> 00:17:08,460 'cause you're all Monotone Mackey. 361 00:17:08,461 --> 00:17:11,097 Okay, Wolfman Jack, just worry about yourself. 362 00:17:12,865 --> 00:17:14,300 Today we are lucky enough 363 00:17:14,301 --> 00:17:17,636 to be joined by NCIS Special Agent Michelle Mackey 364 00:17:17,637 --> 00:17:20,739 and her AFP counterpart, Sergeant Jim Dempsey. 365 00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:23,942 I am so excited to have you both on the show. 366 00:17:23,943 --> 00:17:26,812 Our first transcontinental crime-fighting duo. 367 00:17:26,813 --> 00:17:29,115 - Pleasure to be here. - Thanks for the invite. 368 00:17:29,116 --> 00:17:30,616 Can I start by asking 369 00:17:30,617 --> 00:17:33,320 why you both came on the show in the first place? 370 00:17:34,787 --> 00:17:36,523 Hi there, folks. 371 00:17:38,925 --> 00:17:40,826 It's simple, really. 372 00:17:40,827 --> 00:17:42,961 We're investigating Nate Holbrook's murder 373 00:17:42,962 --> 00:17:45,464 and wondering if anyone has seen anything, 374 00:17:45,465 --> 00:17:48,700 heard anything, that might relate to what happened. 375 00:17:48,701 --> 00:17:50,469 Right on, Macka. 376 00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:54,240 So, over to you good people at home. 377 00:17:54,241 --> 00:17:55,641 If you have any information 378 00:17:55,642 --> 00:17:58,277 that could point us in the direction of Nate's shooter, 379 00:17:58,278 --> 00:18:01,580 be sure to call or text the number on the screen. 380 00:18:01,581 --> 00:18:03,449 You heard Sergeant Dempsey. 381 00:18:03,450 --> 00:18:04,950 We are now open for questions. 382 00:18:04,951 --> 00:18:07,919 #MarshFamilyMurders. 383 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,121 Next one. 384 00:18:09,122 --> 00:18:10,456 Stirling Merrifield. 385 00:18:11,858 --> 00:18:15,495 - Evie. Stirling Merrifield. - Shh! 386 00:18:17,197 --> 00:18:19,097 While we wait for the calls to come through, 387 00:18:19,098 --> 00:18:20,332 perhaps you can tell us about 388 00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:23,135 the US-Australian Law Enforcement Partnership. 389 00:18:23,136 --> 00:18:25,771 How's that going for you, Agent Mackey? 390 00:18:25,772 --> 00:18:26,972 It's terrific. 391 00:18:26,973 --> 00:18:28,507 Believe it or not, we're a great 392 00:18:28,508 --> 00:18:29,808 cultural fit. 393 00:18:29,809 --> 00:18:31,143 There... 394 00:18:37,016 --> 00:18:38,350 There were some... 395 00:18:38,351 --> 00:18:40,819 There were some natural teething issues 396 00:18:40,820 --> 00:18:41,820 at first. 397 00:18:41,821 --> 00:18:44,356 Uh, I think they thought we'd last, 398 00:18:44,357 --> 00:18:45,991 you know, like, two weeks. 399 00:18:45,992 --> 00:18:48,560 But here we are, still doing our thing. 400 00:18:48,561 --> 00:18:51,029 - Yeah. - Uh... 401 00:18:51,030 --> 00:18:52,532 Doing our thang. 402 00:18:54,867 --> 00:18:58,003 Did I say what a tremendous opportunity 403 00:18:58,004 --> 00:18:59,271 it is to be on the show? 404 00:18:59,272 --> 00:19:02,741 Mm, I think what Agent Mackey is trying to say is 405 00:19:02,742 --> 00:19:04,976 how much she enjoys working with the Australian law enforcement. 406 00:19:04,977 --> 00:19:06,878 I'm so glad to hear that. 407 00:19:06,879 --> 00:19:09,915 Can I start with a question for you, Agent Mackey? 408 00:19:09,916 --> 00:19:10,982 Shoot. 409 00:19:10,983 --> 00:19:12,318 Let's talk about Nate Holbrook 410 00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:14,353 and the multiple homicide charges 411 00:19:14,354 --> 00:19:15,687 that have been leveled against him. 412 00:19:15,688 --> 00:19:17,356 As you know, Lucinda, 413 00:19:17,357 --> 00:19:19,891 the public prosecutor declined to take the case 414 00:19:19,892 --> 00:19:21,727 and dropped all charges. 415 00:19:21,728 --> 00:19:24,196 That's technically true, but they had to 416 00:19:24,197 --> 00:19:26,031 because Nate skipped the country. 417 00:19:26,032 --> 00:19:29,000 According to the affidavit, he had a health emergency. 418 00:19:29,001 --> 00:19:31,337 Nate needed treatment back in the States. 419 00:19:31,338 --> 00:19:33,372 A health emergency that kicked in a day before 420 00:19:33,373 --> 00:19:35,742 the case was supposed to go to a committal hearing? 421 00:19:38,245 --> 00:19:40,078 Uh, bad timing, for sure. 422 00:19:40,079 --> 00:19:41,680 Police files and evidence boxes 423 00:19:41,681 --> 00:19:44,916 from the original case that JD requested, with more to come. 424 00:19:44,917 --> 00:19:46,752 Is there anything from your listeners? 425 00:19:46,753 --> 00:19:48,454 Nothing yet, but that happens. 426 00:19:48,455 --> 00:19:49,721 No one wants to go first. 427 00:19:49,722 --> 00:19:51,923 Just takes one person to get the ball rolling. 428 00:19:51,924 --> 00:19:55,394 All right, come on, folks. We need your help. 429 00:19:55,395 --> 00:19:57,596 Doesn't matter how irrelevant you think it might be. 430 00:19:57,597 --> 00:19:58,830 Any piece of information 431 00:19:58,831 --> 00:20:01,099 could be the lead that helps break our case. 432 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:02,568 Wow. 433 00:20:02,569 --> 00:20:04,736 They are dying out there. 434 00:20:04,737 --> 00:20:07,773 You should help them out. Throw 'em a bone. 435 00:20:07,774 --> 00:20:10,108 God, no. This is amazing. 436 00:20:10,109 --> 00:20:12,144 Shove over. 437 00:20:15,582 --> 00:20:17,950 Really? That's your bone? 438 00:20:18,951 --> 00:20:22,254 Okay, we do have one question from Nicky Rimz. 439 00:20:22,255 --> 00:20:24,089 Have you ever used your handcuffs 440 00:20:24,090 --> 00:20:27,059 or any other form of restraints on each other? 441 00:20:30,463 --> 00:20:33,432 Oh, man, damn! Is that the best you got? 442 00:20:33,433 --> 00:20:35,967 I'm just trying to get the conversation started. 443 00:20:35,968 --> 00:20:39,104 That is a negative, Nicky. 444 00:20:39,105 --> 00:20:42,974 Okay. Uh, and another one from Hugh Jarse. 445 00:20:45,211 --> 00:20:46,778 Do you practice patting each other down? 446 00:20:46,779 --> 00:20:49,381 All right, okay, folks. Let's stay on track. 447 00:20:49,382 --> 00:20:51,483 We need your help to catch a killer. 448 00:20:51,484 --> 00:20:53,619 Out of all the people you've traded words with 449 00:20:53,620 --> 00:20:54,953 in the podcast chat room, 450 00:20:54,954 --> 00:20:57,155 who would be your go-to person of interest 451 00:20:57,156 --> 00:20:58,390 you'd want to speak to? 452 00:20:58,391 --> 00:21:01,092 We do have one name being offered up 453 00:21:01,093 --> 00:21:03,329 by some of the listeners. 454 00:21:03,330 --> 00:21:06,031 Freddy Rasmussen. Does that mean anything to you? 455 00:21:06,032 --> 00:21:07,966 Not yet. 456 00:21:07,967 --> 00:21:09,736 Pulling up his chat log now. 457 00:21:11,137 --> 00:21:12,270 Whoa. 458 00:21:12,271 --> 00:21:13,605 "Only justice for Zoe 459 00:21:13,606 --> 00:21:17,343 "comes in the form of 180-grain full metal jacket." 460 00:21:17,344 --> 00:21:18,510 Gun club records show 461 00:21:18,511 --> 00:21:21,180 that Rasmussen owns a Winchester .308. 462 00:21:32,725 --> 00:21:34,360 Freddy Rasmussen. 463 00:21:34,361 --> 00:21:35,661 Sergeant Dempsey, AFP. 464 00:21:35,662 --> 00:21:37,796 I'd like to ask you a few questions. 465 00:21:37,797 --> 00:21:40,699 Special Agent Mackey, NCIS. 466 00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:43,602 We've already met, haven't we, Freddy? 467 00:21:43,603 --> 00:21:45,003 In Chinatown. 468 00:21:45,004 --> 00:21:46,372 You got a warrant? 469 00:21:46,373 --> 00:21:48,341 Are we gonna need one? 470 00:21:52,178 --> 00:21:53,545 Where were you yesterday 471 00:21:53,546 --> 00:21:54,846 between 8:00 and 10:00pm? 472 00:21:54,847 --> 00:21:55,881 I was out. 473 00:21:55,882 --> 00:21:58,149 Out where? Doing what? 474 00:21:58,150 --> 00:22:00,185 Keeping vigil for Zoe. 475 00:22:00,186 --> 00:22:03,622 "Keeping vigil"? What does that mean? 476 00:22:03,623 --> 00:22:05,223 I stood outside a hotel 477 00:22:05,224 --> 00:22:07,526 waiting for that coward Nate Holbrook to show. 478 00:22:07,527 --> 00:22:09,728 I wanted to give him a piece of my mind. 479 00:22:09,729 --> 00:22:11,196 And did you? 480 00:22:11,197 --> 00:22:14,065 Holbrook saw me, ran out the back way. 481 00:22:14,066 --> 00:22:16,034 Old habits die hard. 482 00:22:16,035 --> 00:22:17,703 You own a Winchester .308? 483 00:22:17,704 --> 00:22:19,337 You know I do. It's why you're here. 484 00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:21,840 - Where do you keep it? - The gun club, usually. 485 00:22:21,841 --> 00:22:23,609 Usually? 486 00:22:23,610 --> 00:22:24,776 It's in my car. 487 00:22:24,777 --> 00:22:26,846 Going away for the weekend. 488 00:22:49,068 --> 00:22:50,803 Fired it recently? 489 00:22:51,738 --> 00:22:53,573 Not that I can recall. 490 00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:01,413 Rasmussen's wife, Helen, was murdered three years ago. 491 00:23:01,414 --> 00:23:03,515 That's what the shrine in his house was about. 492 00:23:03,516 --> 00:23:06,718 Killer took his own life before the case could go to trial. 493 00:23:06,719 --> 00:23:09,155 So he never got justice for his wife's murder? 494 00:23:10,056 --> 00:23:11,591 Maybe he can for Zoe? 495 00:23:14,927 --> 00:23:16,796 Sorry about your wife, mate. 496 00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:19,265 Helen, isn't it? 497 00:23:21,468 --> 00:23:23,102 You got people around you? 498 00:23:24,737 --> 00:23:26,938 I joined the Victims of Crime support group. 499 00:23:26,939 --> 00:23:28,541 They have regular meet-ups. 500 00:23:29,576 --> 00:23:30,609 Does it help? 501 00:23:34,246 --> 00:23:36,214 A guy there suggested I find a hobby. 502 00:23:36,215 --> 00:23:38,250 It's how I came to target shooting. 503 00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:40,953 Helped fill the days. 504 00:23:41,721 --> 00:23:45,825 It's the nights that are, uh, the hardest, though, right? 505 00:23:46,859 --> 00:23:48,193 The midnight to dawn. 506 00:23:48,194 --> 00:23:51,030 Everyone wants you to leave the past in the past. 507 00:23:52,131 --> 00:23:53,532 How are you supposed to do that 508 00:23:53,533 --> 00:23:55,467 when you lose the reason you have for living? 509 00:23:55,468 --> 00:23:57,936 Did you kill Nate Holbrook? 510 00:23:57,937 --> 00:23:59,105 Yep. 511 00:24:02,809 --> 00:24:04,309 Every night in my head. 512 00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:06,645 How about last night in Chinatown? 513 00:24:11,217 --> 00:24:14,286 I haven't got it in me to take someone's life. 514 00:24:16,188 --> 00:24:17,590 Really? 515 00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:21,326 "Only justice for Zoe 516 00:24:21,327 --> 00:24:24,863 "comes in the form of a 180-grain full metal jacket." 517 00:24:24,864 --> 00:24:26,231 Meant to mean something? 518 00:24:26,232 --> 00:24:29,636 Well, you tell me. I'm quoting you. 519 00:24:34,373 --> 00:24:37,543 Yeah, sometimes I...I lose myself in those chat rooms. 520 00:24:37,544 --> 00:24:40,780 Stuff comes bubbling up. I didn't mean anything by it. 521 00:24:44,183 --> 00:24:46,552 "You know it's gonna make it that much better 522 00:24:46,553 --> 00:24:49,921 "when we can say goodnight and stay together." 523 00:24:49,922 --> 00:24:52,524 Seriously? I mean, who writes this stuff? 524 00:24:52,525 --> 00:24:54,893 - It's poetry. It's beautiful. - It's Beach Boys. 525 00:24:54,894 --> 00:24:57,296 Yeah, I guess Zoe loved the classics. 526 00:24:59,732 --> 00:25:01,067 Wait. 527 00:25:03,435 --> 00:25:05,704 I thought you said black opal is rare. 528 00:25:05,705 --> 00:25:07,038 It is. 529 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:08,273 What do you got, D? 530 00:25:08,274 --> 00:25:10,141 It looks like the same type of black opal 531 00:25:10,142 --> 00:25:11,910 links both crime scenes, boss. 532 00:25:11,911 --> 00:25:13,912 So is there a chance that whoever killed Nate 533 00:25:13,913 --> 00:25:15,280 was there the day Zoe died? 534 00:25:15,281 --> 00:25:18,516 If so, Nate's not the murderer. 535 00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:21,320 He's just another innocent victim. 536 00:25:22,154 --> 00:25:24,956 It all goes back to the Thanksgiving lunch. 537 00:25:50,650 --> 00:25:52,784 I want everything as it was back in the day. 538 00:25:52,785 --> 00:25:54,786 Use your crime scene photos as your guide. 539 00:25:54,787 --> 00:25:56,755 You seriously think here's where we get answers? 540 00:25:56,756 --> 00:25:59,057 That, or dysentery. 541 00:26:20,847 --> 00:26:22,981 All right now, big one. Big smiles. 542 00:26:22,982 --> 00:26:25,083 - Happy Thanksgiving. - Happy Thanksgiving! 543 00:26:48,474 --> 00:26:51,209 That's great, yeah! 544 00:26:51,210 --> 00:26:53,611 Oh, sweet! 545 00:27:53,205 --> 00:27:56,174 Wow. Who needs roadside service, eh? 546 00:27:56,175 --> 00:27:58,376 Just testing out Nate's alibi. 547 00:27:58,377 --> 00:28:01,379 Turns out it is possible to change a tire without a jack 548 00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:04,315 and only a tire iron and chainsaw for company. 549 00:28:04,316 --> 00:28:06,017 Huh. 550 00:28:06,018 --> 00:28:07,252 So what's the beer for, then? 551 00:28:07,253 --> 00:28:08,619 Well, Nate was off buying beers, 552 00:28:08,620 --> 00:28:10,421 so I'm just trying to keep it real. 553 00:28:10,422 --> 00:28:11,522 Oh. 554 00:28:11,523 --> 00:28:13,592 And for knockoff. 555 00:28:15,261 --> 00:28:17,195 Yikes! Your hands. 556 00:28:17,196 --> 00:28:19,630 Ah, it's just brake pad dust from the wheels. 557 00:28:19,631 --> 00:28:22,600 Don't worry, Mum. I'm going to wash my hands... 558 00:28:22,601 --> 00:28:25,403 No, no, no, no. Don't do that. Don't do that, whatever you do. 559 00:28:25,404 --> 00:28:27,339 Not until I am done with you. 560 00:28:32,244 --> 00:28:34,279 So the father was shot here, right? 561 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,413 Mm-hm. 562 00:28:35,414 --> 00:28:36,948 Where does that put the shooter? 563 00:28:36,949 --> 00:28:39,017 Well, here, I guess. 564 00:28:39,018 --> 00:28:42,320 Oh, well, that's what the police report suggests. 565 00:28:42,321 --> 00:28:44,555 But as per the coroner's report, 566 00:28:44,556 --> 00:28:46,257 which came out afterwards, 567 00:28:46,258 --> 00:28:48,626 the blast struck Brandon's carotid artery, 568 00:28:48,627 --> 00:28:51,196 meaning a lot of blood would have sprayed forward. 569 00:28:51,197 --> 00:28:55,466 So if Nate was the shooter, blood would have sprayed on him. 570 00:28:55,467 --> 00:28:57,068 Leaving a blood silhouette behind him. 571 00:28:57,069 --> 00:28:58,770 But there isn't one on that photo 572 00:28:58,771 --> 00:29:01,707 because Nate didn't kill Brandon. 573 00:29:04,743 --> 00:29:05,710 Okay, so who did? 574 00:29:05,711 --> 00:29:07,745 Well, based on what we're seeing here, 575 00:29:07,746 --> 00:29:09,380 I'd say 576 00:29:09,381 --> 00:29:11,317 Brandon killed Brandon. 577 00:29:12,251 --> 00:29:14,019 - What, murder-suicide? Why? - Hm. 578 00:29:14,020 --> 00:29:15,787 'Cause Zoe wasn't the one having the affair. 579 00:29:15,788 --> 00:29:18,389 I went back and managed to access her public playlist. 580 00:29:18,390 --> 00:29:20,926 Travis Scott, Nicki Minaj, J. Cole. 581 00:29:20,927 --> 00:29:22,660 She had a poster of Hilltop Hoods on her wall. 582 00:29:22,661 --> 00:29:25,596 But the love letters are full of Beach Boys lyrics. Old school. 583 00:29:25,597 --> 00:29:27,966 See, that ain't the way to a hip-hop girl's heart. 584 00:29:27,967 --> 00:29:29,634 Hm. These weren't Zoe's. 585 00:29:29,635 --> 00:29:30,969 We think they were her mum's. 586 00:29:30,970 --> 00:29:33,672 You're telling me Jacquie was having the affair? 587 00:29:35,641 --> 00:29:37,008 How did the cops miss this? 588 00:29:37,009 --> 00:29:38,509 Well, you think about it. 589 00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:39,677 You come through the door, 590 00:29:39,678 --> 00:29:41,847 you find Nate holding the murder weapon 591 00:29:41,848 --> 00:29:44,816 covered in the victim's blood, gunpowder residue all over him. 592 00:29:44,817 --> 00:29:46,351 With a "cat ate my homework" alibi. 593 00:29:46,352 --> 00:29:48,987 Someone didn't do the work. Went for the low-hanging fruit. 594 00:29:48,988 --> 00:29:50,488 Jumped to the conclusion that if it flaps 595 00:29:50,489 --> 00:29:51,823 like a duck and quacks like a duck... 596 00:29:51,824 --> 00:29:52,991 The wrong person goes to prison. 597 00:29:52,992 --> 00:29:55,360 And years later, has podcasts made about them. 598 00:29:55,361 --> 00:29:56,962 Pff! 599 00:29:56,963 --> 00:29:58,964 Okay, great job, team. 600 00:29:58,965 --> 00:30:01,066 Let's not slap ourselves on the back too hard yet. 601 00:30:01,067 --> 00:30:02,800 We may have solved the cold case, 602 00:30:02,801 --> 00:30:06,405 but we aren't any closer to working out who killed Nate. 603 00:30:13,913 --> 00:30:15,513 Come on, kiddo, don't do this. 604 00:30:15,514 --> 00:30:16,814 We just solved the cold case. 605 00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:18,383 - DNA doesn't lie. - Exactly. 606 00:30:18,384 --> 00:30:19,985 So Dad killed his wife and daughter 607 00:30:19,986 --> 00:30:21,486 and then turned the gun on himself. 608 00:30:21,487 --> 00:30:22,487 I mean, it totally tracks. 609 00:30:22,488 --> 00:30:24,555 Except in this case, he couldn't have. 610 00:30:24,556 --> 00:30:25,656 Why not, exactly? 611 00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:26,858 Because I ran DNA analysis 612 00:30:26,859 --> 00:30:28,026 on the historic victims 613 00:30:28,027 --> 00:30:28,994 and it turns out 614 00:30:28,995 --> 00:30:31,463 that Brandon and Zoe's DNA don't match. 615 00:30:33,465 --> 00:30:34,365 What... 616 00:30:34,366 --> 00:30:35,566 Call me old-fashioned, 617 00:30:35,567 --> 00:30:37,202 but shouldn't a father and daughter's DNA match 618 00:30:37,203 --> 00:30:38,503 on some level? 619 00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:41,639 Yes, absolutely, if they are in fact father and daughter. 620 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,076 Wait, Brandon wasn't Zoe's biological dad? 621 00:30:45,077 --> 00:30:47,312 Nope, not according to the laws of science. 622 00:30:47,313 --> 00:30:49,314 So who is Zoe's biological father? 623 00:30:49,315 --> 00:30:51,082 That is what I've been trying to tell you. 624 00:30:51,083 --> 00:30:54,986 So Zoe's DNA is a match for the DNA on the coffee cup 625 00:30:54,987 --> 00:30:57,722 and the cigarette butts found at the scene of Nate's shooting. 626 00:30:57,723 --> 00:30:59,790 - Where we found the opal? - Yes. 627 00:30:59,791 --> 00:31:02,860 - So whoever shot Nate... - is Zoe's biological father. 628 00:31:06,165 --> 00:31:08,034 What are we missing? 629 00:31:08,901 --> 00:31:10,035 Thanksgiving dinner. 630 00:31:10,036 --> 00:31:11,502 Everyone's a few drinks in. 631 00:31:11,503 --> 00:31:14,872 Brandon somehow stumbles onto Jacquie's love letters... 632 00:31:14,873 --> 00:31:16,641 Proving his wife had had an affair. 633 00:31:16,642 --> 00:31:18,276 Confirming his suspicions 634 00:31:18,277 --> 00:31:21,346 that the daughter he'd raised as his own wasn't actually his. 635 00:31:21,347 --> 00:31:23,214 So he snaps hard. 636 00:31:23,215 --> 00:31:24,682 He shoots Zoe in front of Mum, 637 00:31:24,683 --> 00:31:28,719 placing the love letters over Zoe's body to humiliate Jacquie, 638 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,721 just like she humiliated him. 639 00:31:30,722 --> 00:31:32,023 The love letters I get, 640 00:31:32,024 --> 00:31:34,559 but why place Mom's opal necklace over Zoe? 641 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,928 And why are there black opals at both of the crime scenes? 642 00:31:36,929 --> 00:31:40,065 Yo, got confirmation from Customs and Immigration 643 00:31:40,066 --> 00:31:42,233 regarding Nate's exit from the country after the murders. 644 00:31:42,234 --> 00:31:43,401 - And? - And he didn't hop 645 00:31:43,402 --> 00:31:45,036 a commercial flight back to L.A. 646 00:31:45,037 --> 00:31:46,371 How'd he get back, then? 647 00:31:46,372 --> 00:31:47,405 Turns out his brother, Tyler, 648 00:31:47,406 --> 00:31:49,274 was in the Navy back in the day too. 649 00:31:49,275 --> 00:31:50,575 And that's important because... 650 00:31:50,576 --> 00:31:51,576 Because his brother 651 00:31:51,577 --> 00:31:53,479 was in Navy transport logistics. 652 00:31:56,282 --> 00:31:58,816 Yeah, I admit it. I called in some favors. 653 00:31:58,817 --> 00:32:00,718 So your brother wouldn't face charges? 654 00:32:00,719 --> 00:32:02,053 Charges he was innocent of. 655 00:32:02,054 --> 00:32:05,156 - And you knew that how? - Because he's my little brother. 656 00:32:05,157 --> 00:32:06,924 And I asked him straight up, 657 00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:08,659 I told him I'd stand by him either way, 658 00:32:08,660 --> 00:32:10,261 but if I found out down the track 659 00:32:10,262 --> 00:32:12,298 he was lying to me, then I'd kick his ass. 660 00:32:16,835 --> 00:32:19,470 I've been looking after Nate since he was in diapers, right? 661 00:32:19,471 --> 00:32:22,174 You think I don't know when my baby brother's lying to me? 662 00:32:24,243 --> 00:32:26,344 I made a promise to my dad on his deathbed 663 00:32:26,345 --> 00:32:28,146 I would look after Nate, all right? 664 00:32:28,147 --> 00:32:29,315 So that's what I did. 665 00:32:30,116 --> 00:32:32,650 And you figured that meant getting him out of Australia 666 00:32:32,651 --> 00:32:34,386 to avoid police charges? 667 00:32:36,655 --> 00:32:39,424 Okay, if I could have my time over, I...I... 668 00:32:39,425 --> 00:32:41,492 ...I would let it go to trial, 669 00:32:41,493 --> 00:32:43,794 and his alibi would have come to light, 670 00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:45,930 there would have been no podcast, 671 00:32:45,931 --> 00:32:50,369 and Nate might still be alive. 672 00:32:52,471 --> 00:32:53,938 But... 673 00:32:59,878 --> 00:33:01,779 So looking into Zoe's biological dad means 674 00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:03,548 I gotta go back 26 years, 675 00:33:03,549 --> 00:33:05,883 figure out what Mum was doing way back when. 676 00:33:05,884 --> 00:33:09,155 Turns out she was a regional flight attendant. 677 00:33:11,290 --> 00:33:12,623 And one of her regular routes 678 00:33:12,624 --> 00:33:13,791 was to Lightning Ridge, 679 00:33:13,792 --> 00:33:16,327 which happens to be Australia's opal capital, 680 00:33:16,328 --> 00:33:17,995 famous for black opal. 681 00:33:17,996 --> 00:33:19,997 And who said you don't do the daily groundwork? 682 00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:23,702 You, mostly, while I'm making you look good. 683 00:33:24,536 --> 00:33:26,071 What have you got? 684 00:33:26,072 --> 00:33:27,738 Passenger manifests from every one 685 00:33:27,739 --> 00:33:29,507 of Jacquie's flights back in the day. 686 00:33:29,508 --> 00:33:31,309 I'm trying to work out which were opal miners 687 00:33:31,310 --> 00:33:34,880 and linking them to any big finds of black opal. 688 00:33:35,714 --> 00:33:37,048 If Jacquie had an affair, 689 00:33:37,049 --> 00:33:39,384 it was likely with one of those miners. 690 00:33:39,385 --> 00:33:42,820 Sure. Or... 691 00:33:42,821 --> 00:33:45,324 ...we could just ask the jeweler who set both opals. 692 00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:52,063 I remember this stone. One of two for the same client. 693 00:33:52,064 --> 00:33:53,064 Two stones? 694 00:33:53,065 --> 00:33:55,400 The first one, 20-some years ago, 695 00:33:55,401 --> 00:33:57,302 the second one, maybe five years back. 696 00:33:57,303 --> 00:33:59,670 Mm. You still got the client's details? 697 00:33:59,671 --> 00:34:01,240 Oh, I should do. 698 00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:05,376 So let's assume the first opal is a gift for Jacquie. 699 00:34:05,377 --> 00:34:07,078 And the second one's for Zoe. 700 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:09,580 Maybe. But why the delay? 701 00:34:09,581 --> 00:34:10,748 Dunno. 702 00:34:10,749 --> 00:34:12,617 Maybe he just found out he was a dad. 703 00:34:12,618 --> 00:34:15,287 Got the second opal set for the daughter he didn't know he had. 704 00:34:16,088 --> 00:34:18,490 I found the original invoices. 705 00:34:25,397 --> 00:34:29,235 Damn. Didn't see that coming. 706 00:34:31,603 --> 00:34:32,737 What have you got, Blue? 707 00:34:32,738 --> 00:34:35,840 - Worms? - Nope, better. Excitement. 708 00:34:35,841 --> 00:34:37,908 Ballistics came through the lab on Rasmussen's rifle 709 00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:39,009 with a positive match. 710 00:34:39,010 --> 00:34:40,211 We certain about that? 711 00:34:40,212 --> 00:34:41,412 According to Team Bang-Bang, 712 00:34:41,413 --> 00:34:43,714 the firing pin indent and extractor claw marks 713 00:34:43,715 --> 00:34:44,915 match his rifle. 714 00:34:50,589 --> 00:34:52,390 People come up to me all the time. 715 00:34:52,391 --> 00:34:56,528 They talk to me about needing to move on after Helen. 716 00:34:57,963 --> 00:35:00,131 "It's been years, mate," they say. 717 00:35:00,132 --> 00:35:02,368 "Time to let her go." 718 00:35:03,135 --> 00:35:05,503 Bit rich if you've never been there. 719 00:35:05,504 --> 00:35:08,207 Hear, hear. 720 00:35:08,974 --> 00:35:10,542 Uh, let's take a five-minute break. 721 00:35:13,812 --> 00:35:14,845 What are you doing here? 722 00:35:14,846 --> 00:35:17,415 We ran a ballistics check on your gun. 723 00:35:17,416 --> 00:35:19,250 Came back positive for the weapon used 724 00:35:19,251 --> 00:35:20,818 to kill Nate Holbrook. 725 00:35:20,819 --> 00:35:22,720 I don't understand. 726 00:35:22,721 --> 00:35:23,954 Yeah, we know. 727 00:35:23,955 --> 00:35:27,192 Hey, mate. White with two, just how you like it. 728 00:35:27,193 --> 00:35:29,994 Hi. I'm Luka. Welcome to the group. 729 00:35:29,995 --> 00:35:31,429 Jim Dempsey, AFP. 730 00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:33,598 Special Agent Michelle Mackey, NCIS. 731 00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:35,266 We were just talking to your friend Freddy 732 00:35:35,267 --> 00:35:36,434 about the murder of Nate Holbrook. 733 00:35:36,435 --> 00:35:37,635 Yeah, his rifle's a ballistics match 734 00:35:37,636 --> 00:35:39,337 to the gun the killer used. 735 00:35:39,338 --> 00:35:41,673 We're gonna need to take Freddy down to the station with us. 736 00:35:43,642 --> 00:35:45,443 Unless, of course, there's something else 737 00:35:45,444 --> 00:35:47,179 you want to tell us, Luka. 738 00:35:50,182 --> 00:35:52,983 Sorry, Freddy, this wasn't supposed to come back to you. 739 00:35:55,153 --> 00:35:56,621 I don't understand. 740 00:35:56,622 --> 00:35:59,324 I used my master key to access your rifle 741 00:35:59,325 --> 00:36:00,792 in the lock-up at the club. 742 00:36:03,662 --> 00:36:05,030 Wait. 743 00:36:06,232 --> 00:36:07,832 You shot Nate Holbrook? 744 00:36:07,833 --> 00:36:09,368 He killed my kid. 745 00:36:10,502 --> 00:36:12,137 What was I gonna do? 746 00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:21,347 Freddy! 747 00:36:26,552 --> 00:36:28,753 Talk to me about the opal necklace. 748 00:36:28,754 --> 00:36:31,055 It was from the same seam of black opal 749 00:36:31,056 --> 00:36:34,659 that I discovered on the day I met Jacquie. 750 00:36:34,660 --> 00:36:36,361 Why leave it at the crime scene? 751 00:36:36,362 --> 00:36:38,028 What's the significance for Zoe? 752 00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:40,698 I couldn't have a relationship with her mum, 753 00:36:40,699 --> 00:36:42,100 so I thought... 754 00:36:43,702 --> 00:36:45,971 ...maybe I could connect with her. 755 00:36:47,739 --> 00:36:51,643 We arranged to meet face-to-face at the botanic gardens. 756 00:36:53,779 --> 00:36:55,614 She never showed. 757 00:36:57,816 --> 00:37:00,251 Her Navy boyfriend made sure of that. 758 00:37:00,252 --> 00:37:02,288 Nate didn't kill Zoe. 759 00:37:05,090 --> 00:37:07,526 What are you... What are you talking about? 760 00:37:10,128 --> 00:37:11,396 Course he did. 761 00:37:11,397 --> 00:37:12,763 There was... 762 00:37:12,764 --> 00:37:13,864 ...evidence. 763 00:37:13,865 --> 00:37:16,167 It was an open-and-shut case. It... 764 00:37:17,536 --> 00:37:20,305 There was no one else in the house that day. 765 00:37:20,306 --> 00:37:21,772 The cops were all over it. 766 00:37:21,773 --> 00:37:25,610 The police made some critical errors in their investigation. 767 00:37:25,611 --> 00:37:27,412 It was a murder-suicide. 768 00:37:27,413 --> 00:37:29,146 Brandon killed Zoe. 769 00:37:29,147 --> 00:37:31,116 Then he killed Jacquie, and then... 770 00:37:32,451 --> 00:37:33,852 ...himself. 771 00:37:35,186 --> 00:37:36,522 Over these. 772 00:37:41,293 --> 00:37:43,794 Your love letters to Jacquie. 773 00:37:43,795 --> 00:37:45,563 You quote the Beach Boys. 774 00:37:45,564 --> 00:37:47,632 That's how we knew they weren't for Zoe. 775 00:37:47,633 --> 00:37:49,335 The Beach Boys. 776 00:37:51,837 --> 00:37:55,606 That's what was playing on the night we first met. 777 00:37:58,710 --> 00:38:03,214 She was standing there in her hostess uniform, by the jukebox. 778 00:38:05,817 --> 00:38:07,519 I asked her to dance. 779 00:38:08,354 --> 00:38:12,458 I'd just discovered the mother lode of black opal. 780 00:38:14,092 --> 00:38:16,227 A seam as long as my arm. 781 00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:22,334 I was 24 and rich beyond my wildest dreams. 782 00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:26,338 Suddenly, I couldn't care less. 783 00:38:28,674 --> 00:38:29,974 I didn't know it at the time, 784 00:38:29,975 --> 00:38:33,078 but that was the night we made Zoe. 785 00:38:44,690 --> 00:38:46,591 What have I done? 786 00:38:51,863 --> 00:38:54,732 We've actually decided to get him cremated here. 787 00:38:54,733 --> 00:38:57,636 Nate always loved the Australian bush. 788 00:38:58,704 --> 00:39:01,672 Well, there's no shortage of that around here. I mean... 789 00:39:01,673 --> 00:39:04,074 Blue Mountains would be my pick. 790 00:39:04,075 --> 00:39:06,210 Megalong Valley, something like that. 791 00:39:06,211 --> 00:39:08,178 - Mega-long? - Ha. 792 00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:09,847 Okay, I'll bear that in mind. 793 00:39:09,848 --> 00:39:12,617 There's a lookout where you get to watch the sun go down 794 00:39:12,618 --> 00:39:13,884 over two valleys. 795 00:39:14,953 --> 00:39:17,556 It makes you feel small, but in a good way. 796 00:39:20,426 --> 00:39:24,463 Don't suppose you'd... want to come along? 797 00:39:26,097 --> 00:39:29,233 Well, the place I'm talking about 798 00:39:29,234 --> 00:39:30,635 can be tricky to find, 799 00:39:30,636 --> 00:39:32,804 and I wouldn't want you getting lost out there. 800 00:39:39,678 --> 00:39:40,846 Tire iron. 801 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,281 Similar to the one Nate used to change a flat tire. 802 00:39:44,282 --> 00:39:47,051 You're not still going on about the missing jack, are you? 803 00:39:47,052 --> 00:39:48,719 There was no one there to corroborate it. 804 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,888 I deal in facts, Agent Mackey. 805 00:39:50,889 --> 00:39:53,491 Fact, he had the victim's blood on his clothes. 806 00:39:53,492 --> 00:39:55,192 Fact, fingerprints on the murder weapon. 807 00:39:55,193 --> 00:39:57,862 Fact, gunshot residue all over his hands. 808 00:39:57,863 --> 00:40:01,433 And all over yours right now. 809 00:40:02,768 --> 00:40:05,235 All that black powder on the tire rim, 810 00:40:05,236 --> 00:40:06,737 that's brake pad dust. 811 00:40:06,738 --> 00:40:09,740 When Nate changed the tire, he got it all over him. 812 00:40:09,741 --> 00:40:11,576 No, the police analyzed it. It was... 813 00:40:11,577 --> 00:40:16,948 Barium, the main ingredient in gunpowder and brake pad dust. 814 00:40:17,749 --> 00:40:19,383 Well, the police should have picked that up. 815 00:40:19,384 --> 00:40:21,085 Maybe you should have too. 816 00:40:21,086 --> 00:40:22,553 Might be an episode in that. 817 00:40:22,554 --> 00:40:24,456 Yeah. 818 00:40:31,463 --> 00:40:32,930 Hoo-hoo-hoo! 819 00:40:36,635 --> 00:40:38,402 Bull's-eye! 820 00:40:38,403 --> 00:40:41,372 Oh, bull's-eye, my arse! 821 00:40:42,140 --> 00:40:44,108 Off like old salami, mate. 822 00:40:44,109 --> 00:40:46,744 Fine. Show me what you got, girl. 823 00:40:46,745 --> 00:40:49,214 Oh, okay. 824 00:40:54,152 --> 00:40:57,121 Is there a cross-draft in here? You feel that? 825 00:40:57,122 --> 00:40:58,723 Uh-huh. 826 00:40:58,724 --> 00:41:01,025 Come on, guys, wrap it up. We're closed. 827 00:41:01,026 --> 00:41:03,494 We just need a couple more minutes to finish this off. 828 00:41:03,495 --> 00:41:04,529 Thank you. 829 00:41:06,297 --> 00:41:10,935 Next closest to the center is the champion of the world. 830 00:41:10,936 --> 00:41:12,470 You're on. 61238

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