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[David Osit] Why do you think
the show was so popular?
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[David]
Do you think it's weird
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that your dad
volunteered you for that?
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[David] Before you started
working with Dateline,
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what did you think
of the show?
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[David]
As a prosecutor,
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aside from arresting
these men,
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did you ever wonder
to yourself,
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"Okay, we can put
these men in jail, sure.
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But how can we fix
the problem?
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How can we rehabilitate
these men?
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How can we stop this
from happening? How can we--"
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[David]
So what would you say
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to someone who's critical
of the show?
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[David] So this is--
this is raw footage
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from the show,
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from the interrogation rooms
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after Chris
would do the arrests.
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Some did but not
in raw form like this.
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But this is
what I find interesting.
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For me,
watching the raw footage
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gives me
a very different feeling
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than the broadcasted
episodes.
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We saw a fella ride
his horse right up the street.
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Took a good look at us.
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If there's someone in there,
they know we're out here.
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- Yeah.
- Chief said he felt
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more comfortable calling
the TAC team out
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to get through,
help pick them up, and...
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Make an entry
with a TAC team?
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- Make a forced entry.
- Okay.
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If it has to be like that,
that's what he wants to do,
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- so...
- Okay.
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This is y'all's call on that.
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We're on the phone now
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calling the TAC team out
to get them in line.
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Okay.
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Apparently we're gonna have
a little waiting period
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because, you know,
as I said--
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Put together
the tactical team?
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- Yep.
- Yeah, it won't take them
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It won't take them long.
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They're pretty quick.
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Okay.
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[man] We called him
this morning on a fake call.
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We got the number.
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If somebody wants to call
and try to talk him out.
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If he answers...
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- Mind if I do it?
- I don't know.
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Nine-seven-two...
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five-two-four...
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The sergeant's out here.
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He's obtained
the telephone number.
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He's attempting
telephone contact,
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but it doesn't look like
he's getting a message.
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Keep going.
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He shot himself.
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[man] Oh, my god.
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I don't know
if he's dead or not, so...
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What can you tell us
about the scene?
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It's just a gunshot wound
to the head.
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So...
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Any idea on when it occurred?
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I don't know for sure.
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Okay.
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They're calling
for CareFlite, so...
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Okay.
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They'll land somewhere and
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get an ambulance
and take him out.
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Okay.
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Y'all go ahead and scoot back.
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- The ambulance--
- Yeah.
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Well, there's going to be
some controversy.
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It's better
that he did it when, uh,
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as they were coming in,
as opposed to...
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I know it's preliminary,
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you guys are still piecing
this together here,
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but as best you can tell us,
lieutenant,
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what happened
as the entry team came in?
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As they made entry,
they confronted the suspect.
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I believe he was
in the hallway
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and he told them
he wasn't gonna hurt them,
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and then shot himself
in the head.
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And he had a pistol
in his hand?
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- Small caliber.
- And shot himself in his head.
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All right, lieutenant, thanks.
I appreciate it.
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We're having fun?
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You hear they got a
300-pounder out there?
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- [man] No.
- Showed up at the house.
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- Are you serious?
- They already arrested him.
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He wanted--
Brad couldn't remember--
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he either wanted
to take a dump on the boy
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or have the boy
take a dump on him.
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Oh, man.
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[David] So the episode
eventually aired?
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Get his initial reaction.
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I see him.
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She sees him.
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- How are you?
- Pretty good.
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- Good to see you!
- You too.
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Sit over there.
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- You don't look 14 at all.
- I know.
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- At all!
- Yeah.
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But my pictures do.
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- Sometimes! Some of them.
- Yeah.
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[David] Do you see what you
do as different
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than what
Chris Hansen did?
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[David] What made you
do this work?
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Tell me how it feels when
you're helping catch these guys.
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Yeah, I felt uncomfortablebeing there.
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I think I felt complicit.
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I thought you were 14?
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I am.
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What?
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I am!
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Ain't no damn way.
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Yes!
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- There ain't no way.
- I'm gonna be 15 in September.
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- You're fucking with me.
- No! Gimme one of those.
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There's no one in here?
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That was the sheriff's office.
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They said they're not going to
dispatch an officer
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in a timely fashion.
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Oh, damn!
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Um, yeah the only thing is,
he's like kind of...
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You know, he's kind of
suicidal, so...
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He is!
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We need to do a wellness
check on this dude.
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Cause I can't have that on
my shoulders,
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that's for sure.
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So what do we do?
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Um, just call 911 and ask them,
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Hey, what do I do if
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there's somebody here that I
think is gonna kill themselves.
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I have a question.
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So we're doing two
separate things.
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They are doing Skeet's stuff.
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And we are doing a documentary
about this stuff.
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I'm wondering if
you would sign
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an appearance release
form for us?
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We can't use your face
unless you sign it.
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They can, but I'm just curious
if you could sign it for us.
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So, wait a second.
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- I'm kind of confused.
- Yeah.
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They can't publish my face
on the internet, correct?
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We're doing two separate
kind of things.
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I can just really speak
about ours.
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You can also say no.
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I'd like to say no.
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It's just this is a pretty
bad part of...
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I'm not trying to hide this
necessarily, it just doesn't...
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I don't need to see another
reminder of it.
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Especially once I've got
myself where I want to be.
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- Okay, I understand.
- I appreciate you asking.
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I don't want to look back
at myself as...
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...the person that was
stuck in this.
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Okay, I understand.
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Sheriff's here.
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What we do, and I quote,
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is better than To Catch
a Predator.
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[David] I see To Catch aPredator as an attempt to make
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a public service entertaining.
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But do you think it'seven possible
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for something designed
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as entertainment
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to be a public service?
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Well, it's because I'm
thinking about
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the morality of what I'm asking
people to look at.
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And even what I'm making
and doing with this film
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and why I'm making it.
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Do you want to go
talk to him?
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