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All right, we've got a 15-month-in update.
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The 2-Hour Trader framework was released
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about 15 months ago. I wanted to share a
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quick update going over some of the stats
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of the people that have passed through. So
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since inception, since the material was
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actually recorded and released in the
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Traders Think Tank, we have had a little
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bit over 500 people pass through the
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material. What I found most interesting
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about the stats here is that only 68% of
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people actually went through all of the
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material. So I was going through all the
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stats kind of on the back end that I have
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here, looking at some of the 2-Hour Trader
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kind of back-end information. And yeah,
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more than 500 people have purchased the
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program. Only 68% completed the material,
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which I found alarming and interesting.
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And so when I was looking at some of the
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actual lessons of people who did not
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complete all of it, when I was looking at
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what they actually went through, it was
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very interesting. People were going
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through the introduction, the risk
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management, and then jumping through some
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of the core lessons and just jumping right
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into the real examples of the actual setup
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when looking at the actual curriculum, the
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2-Hour Trader curriculum. And I recorded
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it in a way that you're supposed to go
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through it piece by piece, lesson by
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lesson. It's only 43 minutes. And so this
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was a little bit surprising to actually
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see these stats. And so I did make some
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changes to the back end. So now the course
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material does require you to go from start
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to finish. You can't access any of the
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prior lessons before actually watching the
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one before. And this is actually, if
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you're watching this live, I am pushing
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this live in the think tank. If you're
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watching this live, this is all going to
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be recorded and posted as a lesson update.
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So pretty interesting there. Now of the
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500 plus people, a little more than 500
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that have gone through it, I've only had
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two people reach out to me and actually
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complain about the program. And both of
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them were unhappy because they already
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knew it. They already knew the material,
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which again, something else I found
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surprising. Because if I, from my
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perspective, if I had purchased something
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from someone that I perceived to be, you
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know, skilled at XYZ tasks that I wanted
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to learn, and they taught me something
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that I already knew, I would just see that
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as a signal that, okay, what I already
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knew is actually maybe even stronger than
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what I thought it was. And it would just
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give me more confidence in that thing. We
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got those people taken care of, you know,
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part of the program is, you know, I want
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people to be happy with this actual
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material. And so, like I said, in the, in
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the write-up on the website, if you are
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actually unable to be profitable with this
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framework over 30 to 60 trading days,
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reach out to me and let's jump onto a call
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and actually see if you are applying it
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correctly. Now, that takes me into the
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most frequently asked question that I
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actually get about the framework. And that
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is how close is close enough to VWAP? So
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when we're actually talking about the
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signal, how close is close enough? So you
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have situations like right through here.
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This is obviously going to be an ideal
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situation, right? Price is directly
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overlapping VWAP. You've got a pretty nice
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signal bar right through there, bearish
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engulfing with a little bit of a wick
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above it. So almost like a shooting star
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as well. But as we know, or as you may
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soon discover, it does not always unfold
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this way. It does not always happen that
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way. And one of the quick examples that I
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found was actually in ES yesterday. So,
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you know, sometimes price is going to
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unfold like this and you're going to have
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a gap between the actual signal and VWAP.
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What do you do in these scenarios? What do
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you do in these scenarios? So what we have
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to remember here is that the framework is
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based off of price actually testing VWAP.
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You want to have that signal ideally
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overlapping VWAP like we saw with this NQ
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setup. This is like a textbook setup and
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I'm going to cover this here in a couple
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of minutes. But I want to talk about this
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frequently asked question here first. What
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do you actually do in these scenarios?
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What we have to remember is that in these
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scenarios, because this is a short setup,
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right? So your signal is there. Your entry
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ideally is right there. And your target is
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down here. Now, when price is far away
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from VWAP and we're kind of deciding
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whether or not we want to take the trade,
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we have to remember that the risk point is
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still going to be way up at VWAP. So you
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just have to decide, is the risk still
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worth it at this particular point? What
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you don't want to do is find yourself in
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an entry. Like we see right through here,
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entering here, and then price ends up
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bouncing and you take your stop right
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through here. And then it actually
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respects VWAP. That is not a good
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situation to find yourself in. And that's
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not really following the framework because
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the framework is based off of how price is
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responding to VWAP. Now, if you want to
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modify it and kind of say, I'm going to
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trade, you know, this lower high as kind
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of a market structure play based on
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something else, you can do that. But
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again, if we're talking about the actual
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two-hour trader framework, it's based on
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how price responds to VWAP. So any
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situation that you have where price is far
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away from VWAP. Let's use an extreme
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example. Let's say, you know, this is your
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signal bar, right? And we're talking about
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actually taking a short position there. We
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think it's close enough. Our risk point is
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now way up here. So you have to consider
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that the, and this, you know, because of
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the magnitude of this move, this may still
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be a favorable to our plus trade. But we
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have to consider all of this open risk up
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into VWAP. So the risk point is always
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VWAP. Obviously, price being closer to
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VWAP or even overlapping VWAP is going to
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be the ideal scenario. But it's just not
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always, it's not always the case. It's not
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always the reality of the situation. And
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this is part of one of the challenges with
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trading is kind of navigating that gray
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area. Is, is this going to, in this
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scenario, is price actually going to mark
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that high right through here and do one of
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these? And we're not going to get the real
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test of VWAP. What do you do there? Well,
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one thing you can do is as price starts to
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approach VWAP and you're thinking that
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it's getting close enough, this is also
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going to depend on your experience level.
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But as, as it's getting close, you think
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it's close enough, you see a pretty strong
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signal, but you still have some upside
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risk. You just want to consider, all
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right, if I actually put on a trade here,
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am I comfortable with the risk point up
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into VWAP? Or do I want to just put on
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half size because I think this may be the
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local high and price is actually going to
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start coming back down. So you can go in
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with half size to kind of mitigate some
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risk just in case it does come back up
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into VWAP. And then your game plan would
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be to add your second half of your
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position right through there. Or you just
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enter full right through here and you just
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keep your risk point where it should be up
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at VWAP. So that, that, that is definitely
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the most frequently asked question that I
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get about the program. How close is too
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close or how close is close enough rather.
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And it's really just a function of risk,
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right? So remember your risk point for the
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two hour trader framework is going to be
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VWAP. If you front run it, that does not,
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you know, if we're following the framework
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and you front run it and you put your stop
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right here, you're not really following
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the framework anymore. Because price can
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very easily just kind of do one of those
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and then actually respect VWAP and then
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come back down. And now you took your
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stop, you're no longer in a position. The
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other, some of the other kind of less
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frequently asked, but common scenarios,
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common questions that I get about the
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framework is. When we have scenarios like
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this, where price, it tests VWAP and then
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comes and retests. Now, this is not going
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to be an ideal scenario, right? We don't
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really love to see the retest there. We
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want these situations where price gives an
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immediate move away from VWAP that tells
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us that our entry was well-timed. We're in
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at the, at the right time. And, you know,
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we can start to manage the trade
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accordingly. Now, if you, if you find
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yourself in a situation where you're short
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through here, right? As long as price is
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not yet breaking VWAP, the trade is still
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valid and the trade is still on. So that,
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that's going to be more situational
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depending on big picture context and what
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we're working with. The other thing to
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remember about the two-hour trader
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framework is that the purpose of the setup
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is to help you position to participate in
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some sort of trend move. So if you
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identify very choppy conditions on any
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index or any stock in play that you're
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looking at and you're wanting to trade
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VWAP, just remember the trade, the setup
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does not work that well. In many cases, it
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does not work at all if conditions are
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very choppy. So if you just see range
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bound conditions and price is just kind of
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churning through VWAP, let's take a look
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at a recent example here. So we're looking
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at ES. This is just a sideways day. And
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you'll see some isolated scenarios in here
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where VWAP is actually respected. The
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intent of the framework is not to position
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you in this sort of action. Not at all. So
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if you identify this sort of action early
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in the session, the suggestion is to
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consider different strategies or not trade
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or just not trade for that day. Now,
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again, you're going to find some isolated
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scenarios where it kind of looks decent,
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right? Maybe through there, maybe through
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here. But caution is definitely warranted
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when price action is much choppier. Now,
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while we're actually looking at this setup
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right through here, there are going to be
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some scenarios with the two-hour trader
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framework where you see kind of a blip
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above VWAP, right? Remember a minute ago
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we were talking about proximity to VWAP?
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Blip above VWAP and then you start to get
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that signal bar. Is that an acceptable
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scenario? Absolutely. Absolutely. So long
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as the signal bar and what you're looking
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at for your entry is actually beneath
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VWAP, if we're thinking about short and
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not above VWAP, should be good to go.
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Should be good to go. Target remains the
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same. We're going for the prior session
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low. So this is not the cleanest example,
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but again, this is just a reality of how
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price will unfold during certain times
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near VWAP and how the market trades in
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real life. We could talk about textbook
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situations all day, but there are going to
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be scenarios that are just not as clean.
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Remember, as a trader, you have a choice
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to not trade those scenarios that you
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don't see as picture
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perfect. So on that note, on the note of a
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picture perfect trade, let's actually
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review one right through here. We had this
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was a 10R short opportunity in NQ
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yesterday. And one of the ways to really
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start to improve the two-hour trader
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framework. Now, remember, let me back up a
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second. On its own, standalone, the two
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-hour trader framework does have positive
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expectancy. It is going to provide you
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with a solid edge in the market. If you
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really want to sharpen that edge and you
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really want to improve the framework, once
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you start to kind of master the basics of
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what it is that you're looking for within
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this framework, what you can do is you can
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start to incorporate levels of interest
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and reference points. These are going to
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add confluence to the actual setup. Now,
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looking at this NQ trade from yesterday,
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what we see is, number one, there's a lot
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of overnight weakness, right? You have a
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data print right through there. We have
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some weakness off of the open and a pretty
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tremendous bounce into VWAP. In addition
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to VWAP right there, we have a level of
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interest. So I love these scenarios
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personally where you have a level of
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interest that is overlapping or at the
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very least pretty close to where VWAP is.
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In these situations, if you can leverage
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both a level of interest or a reference
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point and VWAP, you're going to have a
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much stronger trade opportunity. And you
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definitely want to be looking at those
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opportunities more closely. So again, we
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have a level of interest right through
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here. We have VWAP right through there as
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well. We have a pretty strong signal bar.
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This is the NQ one minute chart. So you
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have kind of that bearish and goal thing.
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It's a little bit of a shooting star look
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right through there. Now, remember on this
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trade, on any trade within the two hour
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trader framework, the entry requires the
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signal bar to close completely. And then
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your entry is with confirmation of that
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signal bar. And confirmation comes when
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price actually trades through the high or
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low of the signal bar. So if we're looking
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for shorts, it's obviously going to be the
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low of the signal bar. If we're looking
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for longs, it's obviously going to be the
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high of the signal bar. And in this
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scenario, you have the low of the signal
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bar perfectly aligned with that level of
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interest. So it makes it really easy for
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us as traders. We just put our limit sell
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right through here, say 21099
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.5, something like that, like a tick or
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two below the 21100 level of interest. And
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then as always, the stop goes right up
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through here. And our target is way down
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here into session lows, right? Now, price
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technically never hits that target. Of
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course, with a move like this, you know,
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you want to be incorporating some sort of
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trailing system, which kind of brings me
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to my next point about the two hour trader
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framework. There's going to be scenarios
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where price does not get all the way to
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the target, right? It gets close. Maybe it
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even gets more than halfway. By the way,
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remember that risk when we enter a trade,
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if we make no changes to our risk
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management approach. Let me clear this
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drawing off and bring back a visual here.
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There's another question I see about the
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framework. So if we have this setup and
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our risk point is right up here and our
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entry is through here, we're looking at a,
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you know, nearly a 10R trade, which means
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for every unit of risk, we have 10X
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reward. If we see prices now down here,
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right? And we've not moved our stop from
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right here. What does that do to the R
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multiple? What does that do to the risk to
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reward of the trade? Well, it makes it
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more like this, right? Takes it from a 10R
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trade to something that is now less than
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2R. So our risk point is becoming larger
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and larger. Then remember, as price gets
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lower and lower, basically as it does what
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you expect it to do, if you, again, if you
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make no changes to your risk, you just
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keep your risk point static, what happens
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to your risk to reward? Now we're kind of
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looking like this. So now our risk is
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disproportionately larger than our reward.
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So the important thing to remember with
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not only this trade, but any trade that
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you put on within any strategy, as price
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moves, your risk profile changes. Risk is
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not a static thing. We're dealing with
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price that is moving. For every second,
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there's new movement. So we get more
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information and the risk profile changes.
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So typically, my suggestion is, you know,
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just as kind of a baseline rule of thumb,
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if price is getting, you know, halfway or
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more to your target on the two-hour trader
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framework, it's typically a good call at
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that time to start to move your stop from
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a loss and bring it into profit. Right? So
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we still can capture this additional
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upside. In this case, it's downside, but
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upside as far as the expected value of the
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trade. And we're not at, we're not putting
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ourselves in any risk, right? So if price
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comes in, takes our trail, it takes us
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out, we miss some additional upside, but
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at least we're not going to be taking a
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loss on this play. So that is my update on
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the two-hour trader. If you guys have been
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enjoying the material, let me know. If you
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have questions, let me know. Feel free to
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reach out. My DMs are always open. If
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you're not in the Traders Think Tank, and
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you're just purchasing the two-hour trader
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framework, and you have questions within
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the platform, you can still send me a
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direct message. So you don't have to be a
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Traders Think Tank member to send me a
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message. Feel free to reach out with
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questions, or as always, you can email me.
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This is going to be posted as a recording
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to the two-hour trader material. I'll see
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you guys in the next one.
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