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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,760 (DRAMATIC ORCHESTRAL MUSIC) (BIRDSONG) 4 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,320 MICHAEL WOLFF: I've written three books about Donald Trump. 5 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,160 It's an incredible story... 6 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:44,040 Whether we want it to be or not, it is the story of our time. 7 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,600 And, um, if you're a writer, 8 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,240 I hate to say it, but he's a God send. 9 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,440 He's full of mystery. 10 00:00:52,480 --> 00:00:56,400 How does this guy not be brought down by all the things 11 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,760 that always seem about to bring him down? 12 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,200 My last book Landslide finishing with the impeachment 13 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,800 that followed January 6th should've been the end of the story. 14 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,960 Are you ready? 15 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,600 (READING ALOUD) 16 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,920 "The age of modern bureaucracy demands, at the very least, 17 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:42,720 being able to sit through a meeting without barking like a dog." 18 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,560 TRUMP: This is a major fraud in our nation. 19 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,840 We were getting ready to win this election. 20 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,360 Frankly, we did win this election. 21 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,040 (CHEERING) We did win this election. 22 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,720 "From the careening and calamitous last stage 23 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,960 of his re-election campaign, 24 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,760 through the preposterous election challenge 25 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,840 and the deadly mayhem of January 6th..." 26 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,280 We're going to walk down and I'll be there with you 27 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:11,040 because you'll never take back our country with weakness. 28 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,000 You have to show strength, and you have to be strong. 29 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,360 (INDISTINCT YELLING) 30 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,280 "..there emerges a much different picture from the one 31 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,840 much of the media has painted of a corrupt, cynical, 32 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,920 despotic effort to hold on to power and to subvert democracy. 33 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,560 Here, instead, is a far more complicated human 34 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,600 and political tale of desperation and delusion. 35 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:45,080 It is one that should by any logic have ended on January 6th." 36 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,760 We love you. 37 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,000 We will be back in some form. 38 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,960 Have a good life. 39 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,200 We will see you soon. 40 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,920 "But the most striking and determinative fact 41 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,480 of the political age is that the Trump story continues, 42 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,680 even in defeat, to be inspirational to so many, 43 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,160 and why all Republican roads now lead to Mar-a-Lago." 44 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,560 This book came about after a long sit-down interview with him. 45 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,920 Trump was in effective exile in Mar-A-Lago. 46 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,480 I mean he's been banished. 47 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,840 The Republican party has turned against him. 48 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,480 He hardly has a friend in the world. 49 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,760 I think, yes.I don't know how you feel about that. 50 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,440 I mean, I feel... I'll put it this way. 51 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,280 What I'm interested in is the excitement of the story, 52 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,200 the fight. Which is still going on. 53 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,000 Yes, and what I like about that period is that you... fought. 54 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,800 'How do you get anything out of Donald Trump? 55 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,600 You know, there's a journalistic pose here in which 56 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,480 you might challenge him. 57 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,040 Or you can take the approach which I took here, 58 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,760 which is just to egg him on.' 59 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,240 (OVER RECORDING) "This is a big thing that's happened. 60 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,120 I mean, it's a very complicated thing. 61 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,040 Somebody must have been coordinating this. 62 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,680 If we find that... 63 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,920 I mean, we have so much evidence of voter fraud." 64 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,600 'At that point in time, so the spring of 2021, 65 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:31,600 it immediately started to seem possible that he could run again. 66 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:37,560 I saw a group of people beginning to form around him, 67 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,080 something was coming together. 68 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,360 I felt a sense of story that this was a tale to tell.' 69 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,120 I thought "OK, I should... 70 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,280 ..put my boots back on." 71 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,560 (DRAMATIC ORCHESTRAL MUSIC CONTINUES) 72 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,920 January 2024. 73 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:13,960 (READING ALOUD) 74 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,880 Trump was irritated by the cold. 75 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,520 And he was irritated by the hotel, 76 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:41,560 invaluably expressing his irritation to most everyone on his call list. 77 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,080 He berated his entourage, "Why are we staying here? 78 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,720 This place is no good. 79 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,560 Who picked this place? Who put us here?" 80 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,040 Trump was always unhappy when he wasn't in his own bed, 81 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,720 between his own sheets. 82 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,800 (READS ALOUD) 83 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:05,440 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 84 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,080 If you have a right ear, that would be great. 85 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,120 Your... So, this one? Or right? OK. 86 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,760 Right-Right ear. 87 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:21,840 REPORTER: The filing centre is already buzzing with activity. 88 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,320 There are people here from all across the world. 89 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,520 All of them looking to see who Iowa Republicans 90 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,640 will pick as their first choice for president, 91 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,400 and we'll actually get a little insight into what those results... 92 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:34,800 Well, Trump liked it yesterday. 93 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,560 'Here we are again.' I'm feeling pretty optimistic. 94 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,000 'I am now in the midst of a fourth book 95 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,960 because this story continues to go on. 96 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,280 No one as surprised as I am.' 97 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,120 Great and what's... How long? 98 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,560 It'll be about three, four minutes. Great. 99 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,960 'I've covered campaigns before, 100 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,360 that's a fairly tried and true path.' 101 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:04,320 I'm just going to bring in our US election expert Michael Wolff, 102 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,360 a journalist and author of three books on Donald Trump, 103 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,440 including the worldwide bestseller Fire and Fury. Michael... 104 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,760 'But this is different because there are these trials.' 105 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,320 Trump is fighting two different battles. 106 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,000 One is an... is an easy battle for him. 107 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,400 It's-It's... He's going to get the votes. 108 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:24,920 He is getting the votes. 109 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:30,120 The other, a much more uncertain battle, which is in the courts. 110 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,880 'And this isn't one trial. 111 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,080 This is multiple trials. 112 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,040 And it is possible that they will all come to trial 113 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,440 before Election Day a year from now.' 114 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,400 There have been four indictments, and, um... 115 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,360 and all they've done so far for the Trump campaign 116 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,560 is given them a boost in the polls 117 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,520 and a boost in the amount of money that they've... that they've raised. 118 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,880 'The stakes here for Donald Trump could not be higher. 119 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,520 It is very possible that he will be convicted, 120 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:11,000 he will lose, and he will go to jail for the rest of his life.' 121 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,640 I do think that he surrounds himself in chaos 122 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,440 and we can't be a country in disarray 123 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,320 and have a world on fire, and be in chaos. 124 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,080 I do think that these court cases are distracting. 125 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,320 'Nikki Haley is certainly hoping it presents an opportunity.' 126 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,920 He's trying to bully me and anyone who supports me. 127 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,440 'She has come to represent that isolated 128 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,360 outer edge of the Republican Party, 129 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,280 who sees Donald Trump as morally unacceptable.' 130 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,160 Well, I've dealt with bullies my entire life. 131 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,800 They don't intimidate me. 132 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,360 They only motivate me further. 133 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,440 And I never met a bully I couldn't take on. 134 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,720 How close would Nikki Haley have to get for you to think 135 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,400 that she does have a whisper of a chance in this race? 136 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,120 You know, I don't think that there is. 137 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,200 I mean unless she... unless there was... 138 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,120 there was an upset which everyone would find unimaginable. 139 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,800 I don't think that she has-has a chance. Um... 140 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,040 'I don't think anybody has quite come to grips with the fact that 141 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,320 Donald Trump is a fait accompli. 142 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,440 You know, anybody could win. 143 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,200 Who knows what's gonna happen?' 144 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,520 When it's very, very clear what's gonna happen. 145 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,760 There's only one thing. 146 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,640 There has only been one person... 147 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,600 ..since the Republican party, since 2016. 148 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,480 (PHONE CHIMES) 149 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,120 I just had a push. 150 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,320 ANNOUNCER: CNN projects that Donald Trump 151 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,280 will win the Iowa caucuses. 152 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,440 CNN can make this projection based on his overwhelming... 153 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,280 (CHUCKLES) 154 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,560 And they get paid for that? 155 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,680 'Everybody has misunderstood this Trump phenomenon. 156 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,000 They haven't been able to explain it, certainly. 157 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,760 And I'm not saying that I have any better explanation, 158 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,440 but what I'm saying is that you can, I think, 159 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,440 begin to understand more about what he is by the people who enable him.' 160 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,080 (APPLAUSE) 161 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:14,080 TRUMP: I want to thank Susie, I have to say, and Chris. 162 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,160 Chris, they want no accolades. They just want a victory, 163 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,200 and they want to make America great again. 164 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,760 That's all they want, actually. They don't wanna be speaking. 165 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,320 They don't wanna have pictures. 166 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,320 They just want to do their job, right? 167 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,960 I want to thank you very much, Jason, everybody. 168 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,320 You're really fantastic. 169 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,520 'You have no idea what kind of life this is. 170 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:37,560 I mean, it's just the worst possible life to do what they do... 171 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,200 ..tending to someone who basically doesn't listen to you. 172 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:47,320 Remember, the job is if you're good at this, the job is just to win. 173 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,880 Just think of it as anyone in the marketing business.' 174 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,680 When you have to sell the product, 175 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,280 you seem to believe in the product, and you say all the right things 176 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,960 that you have to about the product, and then you leave the office 177 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,720 or go out and you go, "Oh, my God, what a piece of shit." 178 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,280 MAN: To someone like you? 179 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,640 To someone like me. Yes. 180 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:12,280 (LIGHT MUSIC) 181 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:16,600 'The people around Donald Trump, 182 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,040 I don't think that they have any illusions. 183 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,520 They believe that Joe Biden can do very little to win this race.' 184 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:26,800 That is not the fight that Joe Biden has. 185 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,080 'But they believe that Donald Trump can do 186 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,920 an awful lot to lose this race. 187 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,920 They're not worried about Joe Biden, 188 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,200 they're worried about their candidate.' 189 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,880 (CHEERING) 190 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,760 'The interesting thing about this time around is that 191 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,680 there is a core group of 192 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,320 reasonable professionals running this campaign. 193 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,240 And there are three principal players. 194 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,680 There's Chris LaCivita.' 195 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,480 I have a T-shirt that says "I'm probably lying". 196 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,240 (CHUCKLES) I wear that occasionally 197 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,240 to meetings with the press. (LAUGHS) 198 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,000 'And the only measure of their success is to win. 199 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,600 If that means embracing something they don't believe in, 200 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,160 well, they'll do that.' 201 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,280 TRUMP: 202 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,040 The president wants the best. You know, who's the best? 203 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,320 Well, I am. 204 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,040 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 205 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,760 There's another, a man by the name Jason Miller. 206 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,320 I think we saw tonight 207 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,120 was someone who's ready to go back to the Oval Office. 208 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,400 Who's ready to get this country turned around. 209 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,120 Who's ready to save America once again. 210 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:44,200 'In 2016, he got a campaign staffer pregnant 211 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,280 awkwardly at the same time that his wife was pregnant. 212 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,880 This resulted in a barely contained scandal, 213 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,640 and the only person who didn't seem to mind this was Donald Trump.' 214 00:12:58,680 --> 00:13:01,480 I will always accept the results of an honest election. 215 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,680 'And so he went back to work for the campaign.' 216 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,400 This one's different. This one's much more personal. 217 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,640 This is very much a sense of unfinished business. 218 00:13:10,680 --> 00:13:12,680 If we don't save the US now, 219 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,920 we don't know if the country's ever gonna look the same. 220 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,280 'And the third person is a woman by the name of Susie Wiles. 221 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,360 She's run campaigns, and she's from a political family in Florida.' 222 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,280 We complement each other in a lot of different ways. 223 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,520 I'm the gas, she's the brakes. 224 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:30,840 Let's go, everybody. 225 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,600 'Their skill set is tactical. 226 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,480 Whatever is the path to victory.' 227 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,360 (TRAFFIC HUMMING) 228 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,560 (DOOR RATTLING, SLIDING) 229 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,360 (DISTANT SIREN BLARING) 230 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,320 MAN: (OVER RECORDING) 231 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,200 'Hardly a day passes without somebody from Trump world calling me 232 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,400 with a phone call that will invariably start: 233 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,840 "you won't believe it". 234 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,840 'People do like their say. 235 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,680 They do like to represent their experience without fear 236 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,600 that it will show up in the paper the next day. 237 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,600 What I say shows up quite a number of months later, 238 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,560 and I've been very trustworthy to these people. 239 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,840 I don't reveal who my sources are. 240 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,800 And the benefit is I'm telling you things that 241 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,480 you would not know otherwise.' 242 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,160 All I do is cook and write. 243 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,240 That's it. That's it. 244 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,440 And shop for the food that he's gonna cook. 245 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,240 I gotta shop, too. Gotta shop. 246 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,840 Nothing else. 247 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,320 I would say it's very satisfying to cook and feed my family, 248 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,840 but my children hate my food, so. 249 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,320 Eat. 250 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,960 What are the headlines? 251 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,680 Mm... Not exactly any headlines. 252 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,120 Can you believe that we're going to the Rockettes tomorrow? 253 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,160 Well, I have a 9:40 Jitney. 254 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,320 We're gonna... Yeah, we're gonna say goodbye. 255 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,800 Yep. 256 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,960 The camera guy's coming with you? 257 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,160 Yes, cos I'm posing as a... as a writer. 258 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,520 Who needs to take a break from his family. 259 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,720 In a country house. The writer has to go and... 260 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,480 for seclusion. He wants to be alone. 261 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,120 Yes. Which is not... 262 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,880 ..in fact, true. 263 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,520 I don't like to be alone. 264 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,880 But... for the cinema. 265 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,200 You're not gonna make it- You're gonna be like, 266 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,280 "Don't have enough paper towels." 267 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,000 You don't? No, I don't know. I sure I do. 268 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,760 But I'm coming back on Sunday. 269 00:16:28,003 --> 00:16:29,920 (BIRDS SQUAWKING) (GENTLE MUSIC) 270 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,680 'Trump made three trips to New Hampshire, 271 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,960 growing more and more irritated with the other woman, Nikki Haley, 272 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,720 who is gaining attention 273 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,520 and preparing to make money off of his name. 274 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,680 She was in this not to win, but just to be the last person against him. 275 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,440 How did I walked into Donald Trump's world? 276 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,160 In a sense, I guess, we all ask ourselves that question. 277 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,880 As it happened, I knew Donald Trump from New York. 278 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,560 For a long period of time, I wrote a column about the media 279 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,840 for New York magazine. 280 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,400 I became one of the people at the magazine who he would call up 281 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,040 to complain about what was written about him, 282 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,440 or more often than not, complain when we did not write about him.' 283 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,840 You're going to have to start pushing these people now 284 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,880 a little bit cos it's getting a little ridiculous 285 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,840 as far as I'm concerned. So, just start pushing, 286 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,040 and start pushing as hard as possible. 287 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,080 'So, I got along fairly well with Donald Trump.' 288 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:01,240 (LAUGHS) You love me, you love me. Yes! Yes! 289 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,360 That's nice, I love you too. Oh, my God, thank you. 290 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,280 'Years forward, you know, he becomes this... 291 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,400 this extraordinary television star, 292 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,400 um, and then he starts to run for president.' 293 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,480 Let's get inside. I gotta go back to work. 294 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,680 I still gotta work. Bye everybody. 295 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,760 One more, one more. But then, in February or March 296 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,600 of 2016, I was writing a column for The Hollywood Reporter, 297 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,400 and the editor had called me and said, 298 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,640 do you want to interview Trump? 299 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,240 Um... 300 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,480 Um... And I was like, well, you know, 301 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,200 that-that could be amusing. 302 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,240 'It was not a hate story, but it was... 303 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,520 it was a critical story, I was making fun of him. 304 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:46,800 And his response was "great cover". 305 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,760 I have no idea if he ever even read the article. 306 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,560 It didn't make any difference. He liked the cover. 307 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:58,280 That then provided me with the entree to keep going on this, 308 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,040 because from that point on, 309 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,760 the story really kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger. 310 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,400 And I kept putting off doing everything else, 311 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,560 like taking my family on vacation. because the end was coming. 312 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,320 Election Day would be the end. 313 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:16,240 There would be no more Donald Trump.' 314 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,440 And then 8:30 on election night... 315 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,600 CNN can report that Hillary Clinton 316 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,240 has called Donald Trump to concede the race. 317 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:29,880 And that's when I made the proposal, I said, 318 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,040 "Why don't I come into the White House 319 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,560 and write about the first... 320 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,200 the first hundred days?" 321 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,480 REPORTER: It's flying out of bookstores 322 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,240 and into the national consciousness. 323 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,840 It's number one on both the New York Times and Amazon bestseller list. 324 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,440 'I think when my book Fire and Fury came out, 325 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,000 a lot of people thought this was bad for him, 326 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:55,200 that actually, my book could contribute to bringing him down.' 327 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,800 I consider it a work of fiction, and I think it's a disgrace that 328 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:03,480 somebody is able to have something... do something like that. 329 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,200 'Obviously, that didn't happen. 330 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:10,520 So, you might then reasonably ask, did this book help him? 331 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:16,400 It somehow turned the chaos into something recognisable.' 332 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,680 I mean, he doesn't look like up close like anyone 333 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,440 you have ever seen before. (LAUGHTER) 334 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,320 'And then when chaos is recognisable, 335 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:26,760 you can make the argument that it's no longer chaos. 336 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,680 And, um... 337 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,800 I don't know how I feel about that.' 338 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,040 (UPBEAT STRING MUSIC) 339 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,880 REPORTER: Michael Wolff's first book on the Trump White House was an international sensation 340 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,200 that garnered plenty of controversy. His follow up book is also being 341 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,800 criticized largely about sourcing. 342 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,160 You have, frankly, frauds like Michael Wolff 343 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,600 publishing without making any efforts to fact check, 344 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,280 um, fiction under the banner of non-fiction. 345 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:00,000 I find that I'm a fairly polarizing figure among many journalists, 346 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,400 and I try to sometimes make the distinction I'm not 347 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,680 principally a journalist, I'm principally a writer. 348 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,320 Pardon me. 349 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:10,920 'My function is to describe what I see.' 350 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:15,400 REPORTER:: This idea that as a reporter you have your one source, 351 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,760 and you believe them credible enough when you not even going to give 352 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,760 the other side the luxury of hearing what you're about to publish. 353 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,760 What strikes me as odd about Wolff is that he says 354 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,240 because he doesn't work for, say, The Washington Post, 355 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,160 or The Atlantic, or The Daily Beast, he doesn't have to do that, 356 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,320 as though reporters are only calling for comment 357 00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:35,720 because of the dictates of the institution they work for, 358 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,480 as opposed to it just being ethically sound thing to do. 359 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,560 Usually, after a book comes out everybody says, 360 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,400 "Well, who are your sources?" Um... 361 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,720 And I say, "Well, I can't tell you who my sources are," 362 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,640 and there's a kind of jostling about that. 363 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,360 And it's usually from other journalists, 364 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,520 I mean, I don't find readers saying, "Who's your sources?" 365 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,440 (APPLAUSE) 366 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:03,600 INTERVIEWER: You frequently depend on single source accounts. 367 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,040 How do you gauge the trust worthiness of some of 368 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,040 these folks that you're talking to, especially when the environment 369 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,160 that they are working in so "back stab-y"? 370 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,000 You-You know, I know these people. 371 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,240 I mean, you know the people who are... 372 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,640 who are reliable. 373 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,600 And there have been some people, um, in some instances that prove 374 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,000 not to be reliable, but you get rid of them, um... 375 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,360 And, um, and-and you... 376 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:33,160 you continue on with, at this point, the people who-who brought you. 377 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,960 (APPLAUSE) 'I have no agenda. 378 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:40,520 I have no point. I have no political axe to grind here. 379 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:46,400 I am just looking for this incredible story to unfold.' 380 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,320 Let me have the prosciutto cotto and Swiss cheese. 381 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:01,640 Um, I want a, um... 382 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,720 A skimmed milk cappuccino. 383 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,400 Everything is to go? 384 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,800 Everything... Um, no, no, here. OK. 385 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,440 Yeah, here is great. 386 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,000 Uh, that will be... 387 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,880 'Recently, Nikki Haley ended her campaign.' 388 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,000 HALEY: The time has now come to suspend my campaign. 389 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,280 And although I will no longer be a candidate, 390 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,520 I will not stop using my voice for the things I believe in. 391 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,640 Donald Trump will be the Republican nominee, I congratulate him. 392 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:37,040 'So, there is now nothing standing in a way of Trump's nomination.' 393 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:42,760 You've had two things that have gone on for the past year. 394 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,000 You've had this campaign for the Republican nomination, 395 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,560 and then you've had this... 396 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,240 this legal battle, this legal onslaught 397 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,320 um, and the... 398 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:57,080 the race for the Republican nomination has been 399 00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:01,000 hands down successful. I mean... I mean, over... 400 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,120 I don't think that there's ever been an example in which 401 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,000 a candidate has been as successful 402 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,840 as quickly as Donald Trump has been. 403 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,840 And at the same time, flip the coin around, 404 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,960 and you have one indictment, two indictments, 405 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,000 three indictments, four indictments. 406 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,720 There're so many cases, they all roll together as one. 407 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,640 Um, you could barely find a man on the street, 408 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,040 you can barely find people in the campaign 409 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,240 to, kind of, make the distinctions, you know, 410 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,840 "This is the, um..." 411 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,720 You know, "This is the Hush Money case, 412 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,000 this is the Boxes Document case, 413 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,720 this is The January 6th case, this is The Atlanta case." 414 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,960 Which is... Nobody knows what's going on there. 415 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:55,400 'And of course, his central legal strategy has been delay, 416 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,120 and it's worked out very well.' 417 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,040 It turns out if you have enough lawyers, 418 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,040 they'll just keep making motions after motions after motions 419 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,600 to push these cases and keep pushing them, 420 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,600 um, except that now one has fallen through the cracks and it is here. 421 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,120 It's a little disruptive, you know. 422 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,000 I mean, it's... 423 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,520 (GENTLE ORCHESTRAL MUSIC) 424 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,560 REPORTER: Happening today, former President Trump's historic 425 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,240 New York Hush Money trial begins, making him the first ever 426 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,000 former president to stand for a criminal trial. 427 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,280 'Because all the other trials Trump has managed 428 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,120 to push beyond the election. 429 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,160 This trial kind of comes to stand in for all of them. 430 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,480 And the campaign teams worry about this. 431 00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:03,680 You know, to be convicted of a felony might have 432 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:09,240 psychic implications for many, many, many voters that are unanticipated. 433 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,440 It's all part of an elaborate effort not to face him 434 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,000 on the ballot box in November. 435 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,640 And look, it won't be over. 436 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,320 Even when he wins, 437 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,880 it's not going to be over till he takes the oath of office. 438 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,400 At this point in the campaign, we're not in a battle run state, 439 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,160 we're not in Michigan, we're not in Pennsylvania, 440 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,240 we're not in Wisconsin, we're in New York. 441 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,160 Why are we in New York? Because President Trump is on trial. 442 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,440 Much rather be on the campaign trail, but we're stuck here. 443 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,920 This sham prosecution, this insanity, 444 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,200 this abomination has to stop now. 445 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,200 If this case happened four years ago, 446 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,640 you'd have had The Rock, you'd have had Cardi B. 447 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,840 Instead, they have Robert De Niro in a mask, limping his way to a stage, 448 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,960 getting shouted down by New Yorkers in his own town. 449 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,480 I mean, this is really... 450 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,760 Even these people over here are kinda... 451 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,880 (INDISTINCT DISTANT SHOUTS) 452 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,800 It's kind of crazy. 453 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,680 They lost the pop culture that the Democrats had because 454 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,360 the situation they've created over the last four years is so bad. 455 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,720 It's so palpable. 456 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,760 MAN: We love you, Trump! We love you! 457 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,560 We're for you, Trump! 458 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,760 'Many Democrats have felt that this would seriously 459 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,800 handicap his ability to campaign. 460 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:23,040 But with these trials, essentially, he brings the campaign to himself. 461 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,880 Nobody else is gonna be interested in anything 462 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,720 but what is happening in these courtrooms. 463 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,200 It will be all about Donald Trump.' 464 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,360 And does the system destroy Donald Trump, 465 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,080 or does Donald Trump destroy the system? 466 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,920 (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC) 467 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,240 REPORTER: Stormy on the stand. 468 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,720 The next witness in the Trump trial will be Stormy Daniels. 469 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,960 She is expected to testify, of course, 470 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,600 about getting paid off by Michael Cohen to keep 471 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,200 her alleged affair with the former president secret. 472 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,920 (READING ALOUD) 473 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,760 (GAVEL BANGS) STORMY: As much as I didn't want 474 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,960 to get up there and face that, the only thing that 475 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,840 I could think of being worse is if the prosecution didn't call me. 476 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,600 Public perception of that would have been they didn't trust her. 477 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,040 She's not credible. 478 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,200 And that's just something that I wasn't willing. 479 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,080 I'd rather get shot at than have everybody think, 480 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,880 "Oh, wow, she's the star witness and they decided not to call her." 481 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,640 But nothing can really prepare you. It's intense. 482 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,080 The trial was about campaign finance violations, 483 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,480 you know, paperwork, boring stuff. 484 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,320 Um, but the press, the media, 485 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,920 the public continued, and would not stop calling it 486 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,640 the Stormy Daniels Hush Money Trial, which is not what it was. 487 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,760 The problem with that is that lead everyone to attack me. 488 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,560 She's a little off this woman. 489 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,280 And to subject this jury to the testimony that 490 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,760 they had to listen to that is totally irrelevant, not probative, 491 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,920 and prejudicial in this case. 492 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,280 And she acts like what she is. They were like, "Why did you have 493 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,400 to talk about his penis?" Now, we all know that 494 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,160 if I was lying, he would have dropped his pants a long time ago 495 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,320 or gotten a doctor's note. 496 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,760 Or has Melania been like, "She's wrong. 497 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,560 I know what my husband's genitals look like, and that's not it"? 498 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,520 Nope, not a peep. Cos she knows I'm telling the truth. 499 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,360 Susan Necheles sought to shame Stormy Daniels, 500 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,640 not just to her face, but in front of the jurors 501 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,040 to say, "This porn star slut isn't telling the truth." 502 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,680 His attorney came up, and she was a fucking bitch. 503 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,680 She tried to, like, slut shame me. 504 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,800 I mean, read the testimony. 505 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,200 Like it is next level. But then I was like, "Game on". 506 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,800 I don't start fights, but I do finish them. 507 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,560 REPORTER: Stormy Daniels kept her cool today. 508 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,160 I actually thought she performed better on cross-examination 509 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,080 than she did on direct examination. 510 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,840 She answered the questions. She was careful. She was listening. 511 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,960 She was thoughtful. So, I don't think it will work. 512 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,400 She said, "Well, you're used to making up stories 513 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,280 because you write porn." 514 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,200 I mean, it is so offensive. And then she was like, 515 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,960 "You are just making money off of this. 516 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,480 Like you signed autographs." I'm like, "So does he!" 517 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,280 At least I'm signing autographs of the books I wrote. 518 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,800 This motherfucker is signing copies of the Bible. 519 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,360 I looked right at him. 520 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,400 He just... 521 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,560 You know. He just muttered. 522 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,520 He spoke, maybe... I could hear him muttering, 523 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,400 but I don't know what it was, but he doesn't intimidate me. 524 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,480 REPORTER: It's almost as if Trump 525 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,320 and the lawyers who he is directing to a certain extent, 526 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,240 and we've seen that, are mad at her 527 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,840 for trying to, kind of, take back her power. 528 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,120 If I could barely handle this, 529 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,520 I don't think there's another person in the entire world that could have. 530 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,200 I was the perfect storm, pun intended, 531 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,120 because I don't have a family that could have been threatened. 532 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,720 I don't have a mainstream job that I could have lost. 533 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,280 You know what I mean? Like what... 534 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,160 How are you going to shame me after doing porn for so long? 535 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,200 Somebody else could have been hurt 536 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,880 so much more seriously than I could have. 537 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,040 There could've been so much more collateral damage. 538 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,960 You can't imagine this has been easy for her, 539 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,080 but she yet withstood this under fire. 540 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,080 A lot of fire. 541 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,560 It was all about trying to undermine her credibility. 542 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,440 And I would say they didn't succeed, and they may have failed miserably. 543 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,440 Yes, how are you? 544 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,240 No, I can't. I need... 545 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,160 I need one of those. I just... 546 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,040 So, it's as I explained, you know, 547 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,920 I'm just having dinner with somebody, and I can't... 548 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,160 We can't be spotted. 549 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,760 OK. So, I have to... 550 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,720 OK. I'll have to find some other place then. Um... 551 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,360 OK, bye. 552 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,640 Oh, damn. 553 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,920 Yeah. Hi, it's Michael Wolff, 554 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,360 and I wonder if I can get a reservation for 8:45? 555 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,640 But the catch is, I need that... 556 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,400 the table, the hidden table at the back. 557 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,400 OK. Thanks a lot. Bye-bye. 558 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,280 I am sneaking out to have dinner with... 559 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,720 ..a-a close... someone in the close Trump circle... 560 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,840 ..who will tell me what is... 561 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,680 what has been going on for the last several days. 562 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,160 Thanks. You're welcome. 563 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,000 (DISTANT SIREN BLARING) 564 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,760 'This story that I'm trying to tell really depends upon people 565 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,120 willing to tell you all kinds of stuff 566 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,880 that they should not tell you in any way.' 567 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,960 (TRAFFIC HUMMING) 568 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,680 The message was that Trump is really beating up his lawyers. 569 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,040 I guess this gets to the point of just borders on abuse. 570 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,040 "You're drawing her out and keeping her on the stand. 571 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,960 She's a lying scumbag, and I never had sex with her, 572 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,880 and you keep letting her say I did." 573 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,960 (READING ALOUD) 574 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,240 "You're losing it completely. 575 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,680 You're making her look sympathetic. 576 00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:23,920 She's a scumbag, and you're making her look good. 577 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,640 Do you know that's what you're doing? Do you see that? 578 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,440 Everybody else sees that. 579 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,600 How can you not see that?" 580 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,280 (DRAMATIC ORCHESTRAL MUSIC) 581 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,680 (GENTLE MUSIC) 582 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,640 REPORTER: The jury in the Donald Trump 583 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,440 criminal hush money trial has reached a verdict. 584 00:34:55,240 --> 00:34:57,840 Count one, guilty. 585 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,080 Count two, guilty. 586 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,640 Count three, guilty. 587 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,360 REPORTER 2: We're hearing guilty on one through five. 588 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,760 One through 12 we have now, 13, 14, guilty. 589 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,200 Guilty on all 34 felony counts. 590 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:15,120 That is the verdict here in this case. 591 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,320 I was sitting on the sofa with my daughter 592 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,800 and I was just sobbing. 593 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,480 TRUMP: 'This was a rigged, disgraceful trial. 594 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:29,520 And the real verdict is going to be November 5th by the people.' 595 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,800 And we'll keep fighting. We'll fight till the end 596 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,280 and we'll win because our country's gone to hell. 597 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,720 We don't have the same country anymore. 598 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,440 We have a divided mess. 599 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,400 (INDISTINCT ARGUING) 600 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,760 And we will fight for our Constitution. 601 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,880 This is long from over. Thank you very much. 602 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,000 (REPORTER SHOUTING INDISTINCTLY) 603 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,040 These people are all scumbags. They're all the scum of the earth. 604 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,920 And what we are doing now is we created a brand new wave. 605 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,440 I can't wait for November 5th 606 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,160 cos now you're gonna see a guaranteed win. 607 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,160 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 608 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,280 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 609 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,240 Is that awkward? (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 610 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,920 OK. 611 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,560 Three things going on. 612 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:34,360 First, it's really a question for him and for the people around him 613 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,640 how he converts this loss, 614 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,760 catastrophic loss, into victory. 615 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,080 So, he's just been convicted after six weeks in court, 616 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,360 he's lost resoundingly, but he went from court to a fundraiser, 617 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,040 and then there was a Daily Mail pole, 618 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,600 which put him up six points. 619 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,280 You see the boom that came from that. 620 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,040 You know, he-he got convicted on 34 counts and his popularity goes up. 621 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,880 He raises $400 million in less than a week. 622 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,680 And he had a $100 million from big tech Silicon Valley. 623 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,120 You know, these are people who in 2020 would have 624 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,960 lined up behind Joe Biden. (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 625 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,080 I'm thrilled to be back in the city I grew up in, 626 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,880 the city I spent my life in, the city I helped build, 627 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,760 and the city that we all love, New York City. 628 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,520 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) He's just a fighter. 629 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,720 Once he's in the game, he doesn't stop. He's an animal. 630 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,360 (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC) 631 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,240 This is the first of two debates, 632 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,200 the first direct match up, Joe Biden versus Donald Trump. 633 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,320 This is being billed as make or break. 634 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,600 Trump's still slightly ahead in... 635 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,840 in several key swing states, but slightly. 636 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,800 This is a big moment. 637 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:14,480 The Trump campaign has defined Joe Biden as senile. 638 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,720 So, a moment of bewildered equivocation 639 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,960 could be devastating to him. 640 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,240 But in Trump's mind it's, 641 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,160 "We can't go too hard on Joe Biden, 642 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:32,000 because if we do, that will encourage the Democrats 643 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,880 to replace him, and Joe Biden 644 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,560 is the weakest person he could run against." 645 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,280 ANNOUNCER: (ON VIDEO) Donald Trump for President, again. 646 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,960 I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message. 647 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,760 Chili dog? 648 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,440 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 649 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,080 Can I get a plain hot dog, um, 650 00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,560 a seltzer, sparkling water, and French fries? 651 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,520 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 652 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,520 Is this the look we're going for? 653 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,760 'All of these debates, there is really very little point to them.' 654 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,520 We invented this as a media form. 655 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,080 Essentially, you have these people going, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 656 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,320 We discuss tonight domestic issues. 657 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,880 And it's largely without meaning, largely without detail. 658 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,600 There is no question but that this nation cannot stand still. 659 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,920 Incredibly boring. 660 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,520 I think we can save money through this whole 661 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,400 very sophisticated concept, Andrea, that I know you do understand, 662 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,360 of competitive strategies. 663 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,640 And then a guy comes along who does this for a living. 664 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,920 He's a reality television star and producer. 665 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,920 You've called women you don't like fat pigs, 666 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,480 dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals. 667 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,680 Your Twitter account- Only Rosie O'Donnell. 668 00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:05,360 (LAUGHTER) 669 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,640 No, it wasn't. 670 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,920 I mean, that is actually the moment when everybody should have known 671 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,400 that something profound had changed in American political life. 672 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,120 I don't, frankly, have time for total political correctness. 673 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,960 INTERVIEWER: 674 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,480 You know, I mean, on... 675 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,360 You know, on one hand, let me... 676 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:36,240 let me confess, I am grateful for there 677 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,920 to be something worth looking at 678 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,160 and listening to, and something to wake me up. 679 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,480 Um, I mean, the fact that this is a... 680 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:54,360 ..a monster. I mean, monsters are, you know, reliable... 681 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,200 um, reliable showstoppers. Um... 682 00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:03,560 Donald Trump walking into this suddenly brings life 683 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,880 back to something that was completely dead. 684 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,600 Um, now, if it's a... 685 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,040 if that's, you know, a weird life and a, um... 686 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:20,880 ..um, and a kind of a sick life, and, you know... 687 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,720 Yeah, but it's at least life. 688 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,160 (DRAMATIC MUSIC) 689 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,160 Hey. How are you? I just want to introduce myself. 690 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,040 Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. 691 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,440 Um, are you writing another book or... 692 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,080 No I... Who knows? It's always like... 693 00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,720 There's something. Yeah.There's always something, 694 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,280 Well, good to see you. Just wanted to say hi. 695 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,920 Very nice meeting you. 696 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,320 WOMAN: Governor, why is Donald Trump doing so well in the polls then? 697 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,280 I mean, he's doing... I guess he's doing fine. 698 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,640 We have a divided country. 699 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,920 Donald Trump believes that if Joe Biden falls on his face tonight, 700 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,800 that the likelihood is that he would be replaced by Governor Newsom. 701 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,280 So, the possibilities of that are giving Newsom 702 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,480 the biggest crowds so far. 703 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,080 So, I'm not... I'm just not of that mindset. 704 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,360 I mean, nobody really believes that Joe Biden 705 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,360 can be replaced at this point, even if disaster strikes. 706 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,000 (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC) 707 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,320 LACIVITA: We felt that the White House would ensure that 708 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,560 Biden would have whatever was medically available 709 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,880 to get him through an hour and a half of standing up 710 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,680 and going toe to toe with President Trump. 711 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,880 We actually said that there should be a drug test, 712 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,960 um, and you throw out things like that 713 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,480 to draw attention, "Oh, what are they going to give him? 714 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,600 ANNOUNCER: We want to welcome our viewers in the United States 715 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,800 and around the world to our studios in Atlanta. 716 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,040 This is the CNN presidential debate. 717 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,080 Now, please welcome the 46th 718 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,520 president of the United States, Joe Biden. 719 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,120 (DIALOGUE MUTED) 720 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,600 'Joe Biden crept unsteadily, 721 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,800 his balance gravely in doubt up to the lectern. 722 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,200 The immediate signal could hardly be misread. 723 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,960 Whoever had conceived of this debate as a viable platform 724 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,920 had made a woeful gamble. 725 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,560 More than 50 million people were tuned in, 726 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,480 and there were few who could not see the trouble ahead. 727 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,440 Except for Trump. 728 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,000 From where he was entering, he couldn't see it. 729 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,680 Sauntering in with his usual ready for bare face, 730 00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:11,480 he had yet no idea that the game was already in radical transition.' 731 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,520 Gentlemen, thanks so much for being here. Let's begin the debate. 732 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,200 And let's start with the issue that voters consistently say 733 00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:19,840 is their top concern, the economy. 734 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,920 We're going to take a look at what I was left when I became president. 735 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,520 'He was concentrating on his own opening 736 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,360 and hardly listening to Biden's first catastrophic responses. 737 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,160 He thought he had heard Biden claim 738 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,360 that he had created 15,000 new jobs... 739 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,960 ..15,000 new jobs... 740 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,520 ..instead of 15 million, but assumed he'd heard wrong. 741 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,040 Within minutes of the start, no one was listening 742 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,000 to what Joe Biden was saying, or trying to say. 743 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,160 It was all just unremitting 744 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,720 an excruciating spectacle, and riveting. 745 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,480 Making sure they were able to make every single solitary person... 746 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,480 (STAMMERS) ..eligible for what I've been able to do 747 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,120 with the Covid... (STAMMERS) 748 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:07,000 ..excuse me, with, um, dealing with everything we have to do with, uh... 749 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,680 Look, if... 750 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,560 We finally beat Medicare. 751 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,000 Thank you, President Biden. President Trump? 752 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,000 Well, he's right. He did beat Medicare. He beat it to death. 753 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,640 'Trump, concentrating on his own remarks, 754 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:26,320 was only slowly understanding that Biden was performing weakly.' 755 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,120 Now, you're in a situation where there are 40% fewer people 756 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,160 coming across the border illegally. 757 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,000 That's better than when he left office. 758 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,320 And I'm going to continue to move until we get the total ban 759 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,200 on the... the total initiative relative to what 760 00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:43,640 we're going to do with more border patrol 761 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,720 and more asylum officers. President Trump? 762 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,360 I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. 763 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,800 I don't think he knows what he said either. Look... 764 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,200 we had the safest border in the history of our country. 765 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:56,280 The border... All he had to do was leave it. 766 00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,520 'It was at least 20 minutes in, those crucial first 20 minutes... 767 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,760 ..before he understood what was certainly clear 768 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,840 to most of the vast audience. 769 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,880 This might be the most bewildering moment that had ever occurred 770 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,920 to a presidential debater. 771 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,880 This wasn't a mess up. 772 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,760 This was human pathos. 773 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,840 Joe Biden was sundowning before 50 million people.' 774 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,120 We are failing nation, but it's not gonna be failing anymore. 775 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,160 We're gonna make it great again. 776 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,840 WOMAN: Thank you, former President Trump, President Biden. 777 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,200 Stay with us because we have full analysis of this debate. 778 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,480 Yikes. 779 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,000 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 780 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,240 LACIVITA: Look, there's gonna be a lot of talk 781 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,840 because there are so many political experts on Twitter, right? 782 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,160 My God, it's just filled... 783 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,640 What you have here are people waiting for, um... 784 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,320 waiting for someone to come out and defend Joe Biden. 785 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,840 And no one is coming out and defending Joe Biden. 786 00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,480 Uh, so, this is now entirely a Republican spin room. 787 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,280 I think at the end of this, we're gonna have to, like, 788 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,360 identify Joe Biden by his dental records he was bludgeoned so badly. 789 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,720 He was drooling on himself, 790 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,960 half the time he had his mouth open, catching flies. 791 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,600 I don't envy my Democratic friends here who've had to stand here 792 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,720 and try to defend Joe Biden's debate performance, which was disastrous. 793 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,360 Here's the problem... 794 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,160 My God. Um... 795 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,040 Well, let's go... 796 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,400 'I don't know what happens now. 797 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,520 I mean, I'm shocked by the whole thing.' 798 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,160 Right now, as we speak, there is a deep, 799 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,680 a wide, and a very aggressive panic in the Democratic Party. 800 00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:39,840 It started minutes into the debate, and it continues right now. 801 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,120 And they're having conversations about the president's performance, 802 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,720 which they think was dismal, and they're having conversations 803 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,160 about what they should do about it. 804 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,640 REPORTER: Would you prefer Joe Biden to stay on the ticket, 805 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,040 or is there somebody else? 806 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,680 Joe Biden is not... Joe Biden is not going anywhere. 807 00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:56,360 The only way Joe Biden is dumped off the ticket 808 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,680 is if he voluntarily decides he's not going to do it, 809 00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:01,960 and he's not going to make that decision. 810 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,720 Thank you. Thanks, guys. 811 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,680 You know, I think, OK, you know, this is... 812 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:11,200 how does this... how does this disrupt the narrative? 813 00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:12,840 My narrative. 814 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,480 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 815 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,120 (SOMBRE MUSIC) 816 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,560 REPORTER: That was painful. He didn't do well at all. 817 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,720 Uh, he... 818 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,440 He did not do well at all. REPORTER 2: You cannot tell me 819 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,800 democracy is on the line and then give that performance. 820 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,400 Based on that, in 18 weeks, 821 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,920 Donald Trump will be the president elect. 822 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,920 REPORTER 3: President Biden is facing calls 823 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,520 to drop his bid for re-election. 824 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,160 That's after his debate performance against Donald Trump. 825 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,080 REPORTER 4: The next few days will be critical 826 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:55,040 if he's to salvage his imploding campaign and convince America... 827 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,920 'This becomes the story. 828 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,880 Biden and the Democrats have occupied the media now 829 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,880 for a steady two weeks. 830 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,040 And for the Trump campaign, this is their greatest fear, 831 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,600 when someone else becomes the story. 832 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,280 They don't know what to do.' 833 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,920 During the campaign, one of Trump's people said to me, um, 834 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,840 "Our only matrix is attention. 835 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,560 Good, bad doesn't make any difference. 836 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,320 The more attention we get, the more the numbers go up." 837 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,640 He is the mover. By dominating the media, 838 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,840 he dominates the election. 839 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,560 And suddenly he's lost all that. 840 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,280 Who wants to hear about Donald Trump 841 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,920 when you have this Shakespearean drama being worked out 842 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,640 in the Democratic Party? 843 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,800 Everybody's looking at their news feed. 844 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,320 Has Biden resigned? Is it over? 845 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:04,640 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 846 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,440 REPORTER: Hi, Shannon. A very hot day here in 847 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,680 the swing state of Pennsylvania, but that didn't stop 848 00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:16,280 these massive crowds behind us from showing up here 849 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,360 to try and catch a glimpse of the former president on that stage 850 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:20,800 here in Butler, Pennsylvania, 851 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,080 before he heads to Milwaukee for the RNC. 852 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,560 (CROWD CHANTING "USA!") 853 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,000 If you wanna really see something that's sad, 854 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,880 take a look at what happened- (GUNSHOTS) 855 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,160 (WOMAN SHRIEKS) MAN: Get down! Get down! 856 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,000 (GUNFIRE) (CROWD SCREAMING) 857 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,160 Hold, hold. When you're ready. On you. 858 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,240 (INDISTINCT SHOUTING) Move! Move! 859 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,600 (GUNSHOT) (WOMAN SCREAMS) 860 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,800 Sir, we've gotta move. WOMAN: Oh, my God. Oh, my God! 861 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,440 Let me get my shoes! How many shots was that? 862 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,880 Shield! Watch out. 863 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,280 Wait, wait, wait, wait. 864 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,840 (TENSE MUSIC) (CROWD CHEERING) 865 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,200 REPORTER: The FBI is investigating the shooting at 866 00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:35,320 Saturday's Trump rally as an assassination attempt. 867 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,400 The former president appeared to be hit but is OK. 868 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,320 Three men in the crowd were shot... REPORTER 2: These are not only 869 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,880 the images that are seared into the minds of Americans. 870 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,920 These are the images that are now going to fuel 871 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,680 Donald Trump's campaign. An image of the former president, 872 00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:50,720 the presumptive Republican nominee, 873 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,800 bloodied with his fist up in the air, 874 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,640 surrounded by Secret Service agents 875 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,600 as he's rushed down those stairs and into that armoured vehicle 876 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,560 where he went to a local hospital for treatment. 877 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,160 The former president moving forward full steam ahead with plans 878 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,480 to attend the Republican National Convention tonight. 879 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,280 And President Biden promised every single resource 880 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,400 necessary to ensure the safety of former President Donald Trump. 881 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,880 (CROWD CHANTING "Trump!") 882 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,480 (CROWD CHANTING "USA!") 883 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,160 (CHEERING) (HEROIC MUSIC) 884 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,920 Has anyone ever in the history of American politics 885 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,560 been as lucky as this guy? 886 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:04,600 You know, he gets shot at, actually hit in the ear. Um... 887 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,560 Um, so, I mean, take a moment to appreciate that 888 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,640 it's-it's in the... 889 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,760 probably the safest place on a human body 890 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,040 to be shot at is the ear. 891 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,720 Um, so, um... 892 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,200 You know, he gets shot, and then he... 893 00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:26,080 and then he gets-gets up again. 894 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,800 I mean, literally in front. 895 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,120 So, producing probably the most 896 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,600 iconic picture since... 897 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,800 I don't know, um... 898 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,360 Iwo Jima. 899 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,440 Um, but even that, that's a, kind of, a group shot. 900 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,560 This is really a singular shot. 901 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:50,240 Um, and then he has the presence of mind to, um... 902 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,400 uh, to-to mug for the camera, to pump his fist. 903 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,040 This is extraordinary. 904 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,680 (GENTLE MUSIC) 905 00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:00,320 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 906 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,320 (METAL DETECTOR SQUEAKING) 907 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,560 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 908 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,280 For Donald Trump, this convention becomes 909 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,160 a hero's welcome, a coronation. 910 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,160 I mean, all of the things you could have only dreamed 911 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,760 that you might want it to be. 912 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,080 Hey. How are you? 913 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,240 Extraordinary. 914 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,000 You know, it's-it's, um... 915 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,640 Well, I mean, I guess Donald Trump is gonna be the next 916 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,480 president of the United States. 917 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,000 Um, I mean, these guys think... 918 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,920 I mean, the Republicans think they are gonna sweep every swing state, 919 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,560 plus Maine, plus Virginia and-and... 920 00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:56,320 Um, um... 921 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,640 Yes. New Hampshire possible. 922 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,160 I mean, they really think Maine, Virginia, and all the swing states, 923 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,320 but everything is breaking their way. 924 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,800 I mean, they're-they're seeing landslide. 925 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,320 It is therefore my honour to nominate Ohio Senator JD Vance 926 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,280 for the office of vice president of the United States of America. 927 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,200 (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) 928 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,520 Choosing Vance was very... full of ambivalence. 929 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,760 You know, he really didn't want to do it. 930 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,080 Because of all the terrible things Vance has said about him. 931 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,800 You know, because Don Jr was supporting him, 932 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,000 and he thinks Don Jr is a dummy. 933 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,440 And then the fact that he's 39, which, you know, 934 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,920 obviously Trump understands, that's going to make him look... 935 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,280 look old. 936 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:57,840 Up until days ago, he was still seriously debating this. 937 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,200 Right, I mean, Vance has very clearly positioned himself 938 00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:05,400 or repositioned himself 939 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,800 as the MAGA next generation. 940 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,480 Who would have believed, Jesus? 941 00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:17,160 I mean, he was always the story, but now... My God. 942 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,640 Anyway, I'll speak to you next week. 943 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:24,600 See you. Bye. 944 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,600 YASMINE: What are your plans for this evening? 945 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:35,840 You know, to go to the convention floor and to smell the crowd. 946 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,760 (APPLAUSE) 947 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,280 We love Trump! 948 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,760 (CHEERING) 949 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,120 (CROWD CHANTING "We got this!") 950 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,920 Hey guys. No worries. Good to meet you, hey! 951 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,000 How are you? 952 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,000 RNC SPEAKER: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome former governor 953 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,960 of South Carolina and ambassador to the United Nations, 954 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,400 Nikki Hayley. 955 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,640 (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) 956 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,480 To me, Hayley, look like prisoners of war 957 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,280 fighting for their survival. 958 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,120 And so, you have to do what you have to do. 959 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,160 I'll start by making one thing perfectly clear. 960 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:45,640 Donald Trump has my strong endorsement, period. 961 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,440 Nikki Haley cannot have been pleased with this. 962 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,240 This is just falling into line. 963 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,880 The art of politics is the art of humiliation. 964 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,680 My fellow Americans, it is my honour to introduce 965 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:12,320 the 45th and soon-to-be 47th President of the United States, 966 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,480 Donald J Trump. 967 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,800 (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) 968 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,400 Let me begin this evening by expressing my gratitude 969 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,280 to the American people 970 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,880 for your outpouring of love and support 971 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:34,560 following the assassination attempt at my rally on Saturday. 972 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,040 He had had the kind of experience 973 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,120 that necessarily changes a man, even Donald Trump. 974 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,720 And it seems like it could be a great speech. 975 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:49,920 A genius one. 976 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:54,760 Together we will launch a new era of safety, prosperity and freedom 977 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,160 for citizens of every race, religion, colour and creed. 978 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:04,040 The discord and division in our society must be healed. 979 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,320 We must heal it quickly. 980 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,680 For minutes there, it was clear to all, perhaps truly everyone, 981 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,120 that another Trump presidency was inevitable, 982 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,000 even deserved to be. 983 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:20,920 I'm running to be president for all of America, 984 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,680 not half of America, 985 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:28,640 because there is no victory in winning for half of America. 986 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,040 But then, he relaxed. 987 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,840 The greatest invasion in history is taking place right now 988 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,480 in our country from Africa, Asia, the Middle East, 989 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,840 they're coming from everywhere, they're coming... 990 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,080 We will drill, baby, drill. 991 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,080 ..every week they got another subpoena 992 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,800 from the Democrats crazy Nancy Pelosi, 993 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,560 the whole thing just bum, bum, bum. 994 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:08,440 A jarring, and even embarrassing juxtaposition between minutes ago, 995 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:13,160 the man humbled before God, and now the same old, same old. 996 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,240 We've become a dumping ground for the rest of the world, 997 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,440 which is laughing at us, they think we're stupid 998 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,120 and they can't believe that they're getting away 999 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,920 with what they're getting away with, 1000 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,720 but they not gonna be getting away with it for long, 1001 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,000 that's what I can tell. 1002 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,280 OK. We've got huge breaking news right now on Twitter. 1003 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,400 Apparently, President Biden is saying that he will step aside 1004 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,760 as a candidate. 1005 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:55,200 This is just coming across on social media right now. Breaking news. 1006 01:00:55,240 --> 01:01:00,760 The Trump people had become so comfortable or complacent 1007 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,560 in their incredible success 1008 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,760 that they really hadn't come to terms with the fact 1009 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,960 that their success was going to force Biden out of the race. 1010 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,040 The Democratic Party appears to have completely 1011 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,440 rallied around Kamala Harris... 1012 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,880 She experienced, she's tough. She's capable. 1013 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,520 ..which is curious, 1014 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:31,840 because if the issue was finding the best candidate 1015 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,360 to oppose Donald Trump, 1016 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,520 you know, essentially, 1017 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:43,440 they've the Democratic Party has now rallied around, you know, 1018 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,360 only the second worst candidate. 1019 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,880 She has not been a very good politician, 1020 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:56,440 has not been very popular, presents pretty badly. 1021 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:02,240 The opportunity here was to take this story from Donald Trump. 1022 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:07,200 A new face is the only thing that could make Donald Trump old news. 1023 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,600 But instead, we have the somewhat old face 1024 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,640 and everybody else kind of shying away from this. 1025 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,960 DNC SPEAKER: Are you ready for Kamala Harris to win?! 1026 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,760 (CHEERING) 1027 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:24,880 Good, because when Kamala wins, America wins. 1028 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:29,360 Having said that, you know, the race does change at this point. 1029 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,160 She gets to make a case for herself, 1030 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,560 and she has certain built-in advantages. 1031 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,520 Trump has been making serious inroads 1032 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:43,000 in the Democratic African American base, Hispanic base, even women. 1033 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:47,960 So now she can reclaim that Democratic advantage. 1034 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:53,200 And it's not impossible that we can return to a race 1035 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,160 that hangs in the balance. 1036 01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:00,000 This election is not only 1037 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:04,080 the most important of our lives, 1038 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:09,560 it is one of the most important in the life of our nation. 1039 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,240 Donald Trump is an unserious man, 1040 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:17,160 but the consequences of putting Donald Trump 1041 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,920 back in the White House are extremely serious. 1042 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,480 The speed in which he dropped 1043 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,000 and then backed her, I think, did surprise us a bit. 1044 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,680 We knew her numbers would bounce up, 1045 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,880 there'd be a bit of a halo effect, but I'm not sure 1046 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,000 we necessarily expected that there would be such the halo effect 1047 01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,640 of the media who, just two months prior, 1048 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,160 were saying all these nasty negative things about her 1049 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,560 to then saying she's the one person who could beat Trump 1050 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,520 so we have to rally around her. 1051 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,880 Very sad time for this country, in many ways. 1052 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,440 You had a candidate. 1053 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,960 I was no fan of Joe Biden, but the way he was taken out was a coup. 1054 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,920 He got 14 million votes and the person running now got none. 1055 01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,480 She was disgraced. 1056 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,240 She was figured out by the Democrat voters. 1057 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,840 Now she's running against us. 1058 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,200 Thank you, everybody. 1059 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,320 (TRAIN HORN TOOTING) 1060 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,640 We're on our way to Philadelphia 1061 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:24,600 for the second debate in this 2024 election. 1062 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:30,000 This will be the first time you can compare them side by side. 1063 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:34,400 And I'm not sure and I think a lot of people are afraid of that, 1064 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,040 that she's up to that. 1065 01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,120 I don't want to look at my involvement with this story 1066 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,000 as a political involvement. 1067 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:53,920 Some writers are highly political, 1068 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,040 and that's what they're interested in. 1069 01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,880 I'm interested in how a person moves across the room. 1070 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,000 What does this person say to that person? 1071 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,880 What is the nature of their language? 1072 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,080 The tone of their language? 1073 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,600 It is very personal. I'm the writer here. 1074 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,160 Every word I write is through my eyes. 1075 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,840 I can't think of how that could be more personal. 1076 01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:35,240 You have to look at this as a kind of farce, as a kind of comedy. 1077 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:43,080 The fact that it has real world implications, 1078 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,760 the farce, I think, confuses people 1079 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:49,080 and leads them to say, well, it can't be farce. 1080 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,600 And I'm saying, well, I don't know. Let's look at this. 1081 01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:00,320 The woman there is Alina Habba, one of the Trump lawyers. 1082 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,400 You want to get her. 1083 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,600 Trump once said that he may not have the best legal team 1084 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,520 or the smartest legal team, 1085 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,160 but he has the hottest legal team. 1086 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,680 And then he would always show a picture of Alina Habba. 1087 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,920 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1088 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,640 RFK Jr. 1089 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,320 There is no freedom of speech in Europe anymore, 1090 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,280 there is no freedom of speech in Brazil, 1091 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,200 and this is spreading across, of course, 1092 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,680 China and these other countries that don't exist. 1093 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,680 So interesting that he's a somebody. ARTHUR: Why? 1094 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,840 Why? Because he's, you know, a crazy person. 1095 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,360 60% of our kids now have chronic disease 1096 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:51,040 compared to 3.4% when my uncle was president. 1097 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,640 He said that Trump's main concern was the children, 1098 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,560 which anyone who knows Donald Trump 1099 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,440 knows that never once in his life 1100 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,800 has he been concerned about the children. 1101 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,160 We need to be again the exemplary democracy in the world. 1102 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,240 Yep. 1103 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,800 If this is about hair, and Donald Trump has clearly made it 1104 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:25,440 about hair, I think Newsom would be a very strong contender. 1105 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,600 I assume that there are Democrats here. 1106 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,640 I just don't know the Democrats as well. 1107 01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,120 It's not my beat. 1108 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,040 OK. Four minutes to go. Let's go. 1109 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,520 ABC ANCHOR: Good evening. We are looking forward 1110 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,440 to a spirited and thoughtful debate. 1111 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,280 ANCHOR 2: So, let's get started. 1112 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,360 They've destroyed the fabric of our country. 1113 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,640 Crime in this country is through the roof. 1114 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,240 Well, I think this is so rich 1115 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,400 coming from someone who has been prosecuted. 1116 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,480 When you look at his economic plan 1117 01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,200 it's all about tax breaks for the richest people. 1118 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,440 She doesn't have a plan. 1119 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,920 Take a look at her plan, she doesn't have a plan. 1120 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,280 She's a Marxist, everybody know she's a Marxist. 1121 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:14,400 In over 20 states there are Trump abortion bans. 1122 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:19,080 Trump abortion bans that make no exception even for rape and incest. 1123 01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,760 They have done by allowing these millions of people 1124 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,320 to come into our country... 1125 01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,640 In Springfield they're eating the dogs. 1126 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,680 The people that came in, they're eating the cats. They're eating... 1127 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:35,120 They're eating the pets of the people that live there, 1128 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,800 and this is what's happening in our country. 1129 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,280 And it's a shame. 1130 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,480 (CHUCKLES) Talk about extreme. 1131 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,560 Tonight we saw a someone that has empathy, 1132 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,760 who cares about ordinary Americans, 1133 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,640 who talks about kitchen sink issues. 1134 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,040 (APPLAUSE) Fair, that's very fair. 1135 01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,920 But what about the pets that are being eaten in Springfield, Ohio? 1136 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,080 (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) 1137 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,400 They documented video after video where people have said... Cats and dogs? 1138 01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:07,840 Yes, people have said that they have pets that are missing, 1139 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,840 they have seen animals being decapitated, 1140 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,840 people have reported... Cats and dogs?Yes. 1141 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,560 You should preserve that law, you shouldn't just allow 1142 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,920 that baby to die, 1143 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:23,720 the indifference to a baby born alive is in essence... 1144 01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,880 At times Donald Trump seemed riled and angry. 1145 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,120 MICHAEL: She probably comes out ahead. 1146 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,120 She can stand up against this guy. 1147 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,960 He got destroyed in this debate. Destroyed. 1148 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:39,840 The reaction that she got was totally flabbergasting, 1149 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,600 she went from someone widely disliked 1150 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,120 to someone beloved overnight. 1151 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:50,640 The new national Reuters IPSOS poll has Haris ahead by five points. 1152 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,280 Let's take a look at that right now. 1153 01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:57,960 For both sides, their winning issue, each believes, is the other side. 1154 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,720 Donald Trump and the deep aversion to him 1155 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:05,040 on the part of so many Americans is the Democrats winning hand. 1156 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,400 In Kamala Harris and the visceral dislike 1157 01:10:08,440 --> 01:10:11,360 and deep suspicion of her in MAGA land 1158 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,360 is the Trumper's Ace. 1159 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:17,200 A tight race, as tight as any in modern history 1160 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,640 could default to the enemy you know. 1161 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,360 Are you guys staying here all winter? 1162 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:33,560 We're here. 1163 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,040 Do you live in Montauk? I do now. 1164 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,120 Oh, nice. 1165 01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:47,200 Wow! Oh, nice. 1166 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,920 Nice catch. 1167 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,960 That is huge! 1168 01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,480 That's a big male. (INDISTINCT) 1169 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:05,000 In many ways, I've become a kind of court reporter. 1170 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:10,400 I'm often accused of reporting gossip or being a gossip. 1171 01:11:10,440 --> 01:11:13,960 That is that kind of quintessential position of the guy 1172 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:19,280 in Louis' court or, you know, of the diarists in London 1173 01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:20,880 of a particular time. 1174 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,840 You're telling the things that other people, 1175 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,400 nicer people, I suppose, would not say. 1176 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:35,360 But I'm telling this story in a way that is true, or I think. 1177 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,440 The real question is, does it need to be told? 1178 01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:42,600 You know, 1179 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:46,000 we believe we need to be told but maybe politics is just 1180 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,960 this illusion that we all support 1181 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,400 and perhaps it's completely meaningless. 1182 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,360 I have no politics. 1183 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,520 I'm a writer. I have a stake in what I'm writing. 1184 01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:09,640 I have a stake in being able to take what is in front of me 1185 01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,360 and put it on the page. 1186 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,800 The problem with farm stands is that the people who work here 1187 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:18,560 are bloody incompetent. 1188 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,160 Do I have a rooting interest? I have no rooting interest. 1189 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,960 I just have a descriptive interest. 1190 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,880 ARTHUR: But as a father and a husband, 1191 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,200 do you have a different sort of interest? 1192 01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,680 I... (CHUCKLES) 1193 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,520 I think I just answered that question. 1194 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,440 I can be more precise here. I don't vote. 1195 01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:40,280 I don't want to vote. 1196 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,040 That's not what I do. 1197 01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,680 My job is a different job. 1198 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,960 I don't see any reason to add that complication 1199 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:52,040 or that perspective on what I do. 1200 01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,000 How's the book coming along? 1201 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,200 You mean... 1202 01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,920 Does that mean... Will I finish the book? I will. 1203 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,920 I will finish the book. Will I finish the book on time? 1204 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,560 I always finish on time. 1205 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,520 TV ANCHOR: Now, a judge in New York 1206 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,440 throws former President Donald Trump's felony convictions 1207 01:13:17,480 --> 01:13:20,200 into some question, delaying his sentencing. 1208 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,720 That move comes following Monday's US Supreme Court ruling 1209 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,760 granting presidents some immunity for official acts. 1210 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:34,560 The most surprising thing of this campaign is that he survived. 1211 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,960 Each of these cases appear to be 1212 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,040 each on their own a mortal threat. 1213 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,440 That was a key of the Democratic campaign. 1214 01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:49,320 At some point it began to be clear 1215 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,720 that he was going to circumvent this. 1216 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,920 He is... 1217 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,840 I think the term would be 'scot-free'. 1218 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,200 TV ANCHOR: Tonight, a tape the Kamala Harris campaign 1219 01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,520 will want Americans to hear. 1220 01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,480 JOHN KELLY: 1221 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,800 So yesterday we learned that Donald Trump's former chief of staff, 1222 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,680 John Kelly, a retired four star general, 1223 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,000 confirmed that, while Donald Trump was president, 1224 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:41,680 he said he wanted generals like Adolf Hitler had. 1225 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,360 Kamala Harris has been groping 1226 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:50,360 for a way to label him and describe him. 1227 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,720 So, this immediately became an element of this campaign. 1228 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,960 It is clear from John Kelly's words that Donald Trump is someone 1229 01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:03,520 who, I quote, "certainly falls into the general definition of fascist." 1230 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:09,080 I mean, fascism implies a fairly structured programme 1231 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:14,040 to realise those kind of corporate populist and authoritarian goals. 1232 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:15,760 Does Donald Trump have that? 1233 01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,160 Oh... Jeez. 1234 01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,640 I doubt that he has thought that through in any way. 1235 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:23,880 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1236 01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,880 Thank you.Thank you. Have some before you lose them. 1237 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,560 Was the ice cream machine working? 1238 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,960 You want ice cream? I'll get you some ice cream. 1239 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:32,800 But on the other hand, you know, 1240 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,120 there are pieces of that which he certainly displays. 1241 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:40,480 So, what is that? What does that add up to? 1242 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:44,760 In a sense to say it is fascism is dignifying it. 1243 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,720 I was a spooky one. A spooky one? 1244 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,720 OK. But you have to be quiet now because we're making a movie. 1245 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,960 And so began what was perhaps the worst week of the campaign. 1246 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,560 Having been exiled from New York City, 1247 01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,640 indeed, convicted by it, 1248 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:16,640 the concurring anti-hero was back at the very centre of it. 1249 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,840 20,000 people were at Madison Square Garden 1250 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,120 to celebrate him. 1251 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:27,400 Trump is actually re-enacting 1252 01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:32,840 the Madison Square Garden rally in 1939. 1253 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,840 Neo-Nazis, fascists in America 1254 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:42,000 were lining up to pledge their support for the kind of government 1255 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,560 that they were seeing in Germany. 1256 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,400 So I don't think we can ignore it. 1257 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,000 What do they mean by fascism? 1258 01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,240 By wanting to have your country be able to survive, 1259 01:16:56,280 --> 01:17:00,240 by not wanting to constantly be in other people's wars. 1260 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,240 Like, he could cure cancer just by doing this 1261 01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,880 and they'd totally find something to say 'fascism!' 1262 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,520 'Homophobic!' And it's like, we need to stop with these things. 1263 01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,560 Nobody cares who you sleep with. 1264 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,480 Nobody cares what colour you are. 1265 01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:20,360 Who is the greatest president in American history? 1266 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:21,880 ALL: Trump! 1267 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,400 As Trump backstage railed against his speech writers 1268 01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:27,880 for finding nothing new to say, 1269 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,240 word started to filter back that Tony Hinchcliffe 1270 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,320 whom few have ever heard of 1271 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:37,480 was on stage throwing a bomb into Latino voters 1272 01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,280 whose margin may well provide the Trump victory. 1273 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,880 There's a lot going on, I don't know if you guys know this, 1274 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,720 but there's literally a floating island of garbage 1275 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,400 in the middle of the ocean right now. Yeah. 1276 01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:51,320 I think it's called Puerto Rico. 1277 01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:52,640 (CROWD BOOING) 1278 01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,240 OK... Alright. (CHUCKLES) OK. 1279 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,080 WOMAN: You're my female hero 1280 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,360 because you said to that man 1281 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:24,400 what every woman in this world wants to say to him. 1282 01:18:24,440 --> 01:18:29,400 Frankly, there are way too many men in this world, big, small, 1283 01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:32,960 who have little microgram of power over women. 1284 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,240 And you showed those women, 1285 01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,560 "Guess what? My voice means something." 1286 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,080 Make sure you vote. Yep. 1287 01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:41,800 There is no doubt about voting. 1288 01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,640 I want to make sure everybody's voting. 1289 01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:48,160 While Trump may be holding a rally at Madison Square Garden 1290 01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:52,200 purely for his own ego, New York's not gonna to flip, right? 1291 01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,320 The rest of us are trying to survive on a planet 1292 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,200 that is really suffering from climate change. 1293 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,160 We're trying to build a world where the next generation 1294 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,320 has access to, I don't know, health care and education. 1295 01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,880 So, it's really wild to be an American right now. 1296 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,640 We really are living in two different countries. 1297 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,480 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1298 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,360 Oh, hi Stormy! Hello! 1299 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:15,920 (INDISTINCT) Thank you! 1300 01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,880 I think we should all worry about Trump. 1301 01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,480 I worry not just because I'm an actual figure 1302 01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,560 in this fucked up horror movie, 1303 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:31,120 but also just as an American citizen, as a woman, 1304 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,680 as a mother to a daughter, 1305 01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:38,360 as a friend to so many gay and trans people. 1306 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:42,040 And yeah, I think that we should all be very afraid. 1307 01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:46,760 (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) 1308 01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,640 This is so much more than a political movement. 1309 01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,840 This is the greatest family in the world. 1310 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,320 We are fighting for a country we love. 1311 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,520 Are you guys ready to take your country back? 1312 01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:03,600 (CHEERING) 1313 01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,360 America is for Americans and Americans only. 1314 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,760 If you're outside of the Trump bubble, 1315 01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:18,080 it's very hard to appreciate what's going on here. 1316 01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,560 I mean, it's sort of one moron after another. 1317 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,960 Our message to gay Americans tonight, is this. 1318 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,480 You're free to marry who you want, if you want, 1319 01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:30,920 without the government standing in your way. 1320 01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,840 But that doesn't mean that boys get to compete with girls 1321 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,480 in girls' sports. 1322 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:39,760 Or you do genital mutilation and chemical castration on our children. 1323 01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,960 You could not literally sit through this 1324 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:49,280 unless you were in the bubble, you've drunk the Kool-Aid. 1325 01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,000 MAGA, baby, it's time. 1326 01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,920 Ladies and gentlemen, the greatest capitalist 1327 01:20:55,960 --> 01:21:01,200 in the history of the Unites States of America, Elon Musk. 1328 01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:03,800 Elon! 1329 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,080 Elon!Elon! 1330 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:06,160 (UNCLEAR) 1331 01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,120 (CHEERING ON TV) 1332 01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,360 Didn't he used to hate Trump? 1333 01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:16,920 Oh! 1334 01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,680 I wonder how his Tesla sales are doing now. 1335 01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,160 Because all liberals that buy those, right? 1336 01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,400 It's like mass possession. 1337 01:21:31,440 --> 01:21:33,120 What the fuck is happening? 1338 01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:35,840 I talked to a priest about it, 1339 01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,640 "Is it possible for a mass possession 1340 01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,080 or like a virus? It's like the Walking Dead. 1341 01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:46,320 Cos, I mean, there's people that I would never expect 1342 01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:50,080 just go full, full fucking cult. 1343 01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:53,960 On day one, I will launch the largest deportation programme 1344 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:55,640 in American history. 1345 01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,160 (CHEERING DROWNS SPEECH) 1346 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,240 If he gets away with not getting sentenced, 1347 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,800 he gets it thrown out when I gave up everything 1348 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,880 and I lost a contract for a big podcast, 1349 01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,680 I should have been making $1 million. 1350 01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,240 I gave up everything to testify. 1351 01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,360 But most importantly, all that time without my daughter, 1352 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,040 then it was all for nothing. 1353 01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,640 And I'm hereby calling for the death penalty for any migrant 1354 01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:26,240 that kills an American citizen or law enforcement officer. 1355 01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:27,920 (CHEERING ON TV) 1356 01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,040 At this very moment I think he's going to win. 1357 01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,640 Because people have gotten complacent, 1358 01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,400 and these people are crazy and rabid, 1359 01:22:36,440 --> 01:22:39,680 and they will walk in the snow uphill both ways to vote for him. 1360 01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:40,720 (CHEERING) 1361 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:50,800 Meanwhile, Harris' closing speech before a crowd of as many as 75,000 1362 01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,560 at the ellipts in Washington DC, 1363 01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,400 exactly where Trump urged on similarly sized crowed 1364 01:22:57,440 --> 01:23:01,840 to march on the capital on January 6th 2021, 1365 01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,680 was as powerful and cogent in argument 1366 01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:08,680 for the dire future of a government return to Donald Trump's hands 1367 01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,680 as she had made in the campaign. 1368 01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:14,080 Donald Trump has spent a decade 1369 01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:20,120 trying to keep the American people divided and afraid of each other, 1370 01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,080 that is who he is, 1371 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:27,040 but, America, I am here tonight to say 1372 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,520 that is not who WE are. 1373 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,840 That is not who WE are. (CHEERING) 1374 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,840 In this final week, 1375 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,800 I mean, there's a, you know, sudden death feeling. 1376 01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:02,800 Many people have suddenly felt the urgency to be witnesses 1377 01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,440 to who Donal Trump really is. 1378 01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,960 And it occurred to me, I could add to the story. 1379 01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,000 Good morning, Michael. James. 1380 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:20,000 So... the end. Days to go. 1381 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:24,760 I know you've spent Sunday with 10,000 of your closest friends 1382 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,200 in Madison Square Garden, but we'll set that aside for now, 1383 01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,320 cos there's something I'd like to talk to you about. 1384 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,680 Something we talked privately about before, 1385 01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,360 but I don't think you have ever talked about this publicly. 1386 01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:38,320 You had a particularly secret source when you wrote Fire and Fury. 1387 01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:42,080 Quite particular. 1388 01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,960 It was Trump's old friend, 1389 01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,960 Jeffrey Epstein. 1390 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,920 Well, this past week, the Epstein-Trump connection 1391 01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,840 surfaced again when a well-known model of the 90s, 1392 01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:55,600 Stacey Williams, 1393 01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,880 gave an interview saying that while she was dating Epstein 1394 01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,000 he introduced her to Trump, 1395 01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:04,240 and Trump, virtually, upon their introduction, 1396 01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,000 well, let me quote from the story... 1397 01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:09,120 "Mr Trump pulled miss Williams toward him and touched her breasts, 1398 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:10,520 waist and buttocks," 1399 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,760 she said, as The New York Times reporter did. 1400 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,400 So how much do you know about Jeffrey and Donald? 1401 01:25:17,440 --> 01:25:18,600 Quite a bit. 1402 01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:23,320 I probably have 100 hours of Epstein 1403 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:27,760 talking about the inner workings of the Trump White House. 1404 01:25:46,480 --> 01:25:49,840 Having this conversation, Epstein, on more than one occasion, 1405 01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,640 would bring out these photographs that he had. 1406 01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:56,360 They were from the late 90s 1407 01:25:56,400 --> 01:26:02,400 and they were Trump at Jeffrey Epstein's Palm Beach house 1408 01:26:02,440 --> 01:26:07,120 sitting around the pool with these young women, 1409 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:11,280 topless, and in some of the pictures they're sitting in his lap, 1410 01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,680 and there's one I especially remember 1411 01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:18,800 where there's a stain, a telltale stain 1412 01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,440 on the front of Trump's pants, 1413 01:26:21,480 --> 01:26:25,640 and the women are pointing at him and laughing. 1414 01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:27,400 This is getting creepy. 1415 01:26:27,440 --> 01:26:31,120 The creepiest framing of this is, you know, 1416 01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:35,560 here are these two guys, both driven by a need to do anything they wanted 1417 01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:36,760 with women. 1418 01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:41,280 Dominance and submission and entertainment. 1419 01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:45,280 And one of them end up in the darkest prison in the country 1420 01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,800 and the other in the White House. 1421 01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:49,320 Yes. Explain that. 1422 01:26:50,440 --> 01:26:55,400 Let's have a discussion about, you know, if we wanna push this out. 1423 01:26:55,440 --> 01:26:56,960 Yeah, yeah, for sure. 1424 01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,920 I have tried countless times to do something with this material, 1425 01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:06,880 I have discussed this with almost every media organization, 1426 01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:11,400 but no-one has wanted to let Epstein be a witness. 1427 01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:17,920 From my point of view, to really point out that Jeffrey Epstein 1428 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:22,400 was Donald's Trump close friend for a very long time 1429 01:27:22,440 --> 01:27:26,600 is damming information, telling information 1430 01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,520 and important information. 1431 01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,800 It does feel like there are secrets here. 1432 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,520 We've just got 100 hours of Jeffrey Epstein 1433 01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,560 saying him and Trump are BFFs. 1434 01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,640 I didn't even get no alert about it on my phone... 1435 01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:40,920 But nothing happened. 1436 01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:44,040 That's the thing about the news cycle, it passes very quickly. 1437 01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,640 ..interviews Epstein did with the writer Michael Wolff, 1438 01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,680 who took his sweet time releasing this information. 1439 01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,680 I cannot explain why Donald Trump has gotten a pass on this. 1440 01:27:57,480 --> 01:28:00,600 Donald Trump has said repeatedly, "Oh, I barely knew the guy'" 1441 01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,840 when in fact he was his best friend for ten years. 1442 01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:09,360 One of the interesting aspect of this is that the Trump campaign 1443 01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:13,720 released the statement calling this election interference, 1444 01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,080 which is, um... 1445 01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,040 which is puzzling, which sort of goes like 1446 01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:23,000 anything you would say against us before the election 1447 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,120 is election interference. 1448 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,680 The story has happened. 1449 01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,920 I'm just waiting now to find out how it ends. 1450 01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:09,760 As we sit here and I start to think, well, he could, he could win. 1451 01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,240 Donald Trump could very well win. 1452 01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:17,080 Disregarding what that means for the country, 1453 01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,280 the world and the future of my children. 1454 01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:23,800 The idea for me that I might have to go on writing about him 1455 01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,560 is... almost unimaginable. 1456 01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,440 So were it to come to pass 1457 01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:32,720 that he was to be defeated, 1458 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,880 I guess I would feel... liberated. 1459 01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:37,760 SAM NUNBERG: 'Hi!' 1460 01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,560 Sam, I want your up-to-the-minute. 1461 01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:43,440 'I think she has Pennsylvania, 1462 01:29:43,480 --> 01:29:45,680 but that doesn't stop Trump from being able to win 1463 01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,840 cos he can still go through Michigan and Wisconsin 1464 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:49,720 assuming he wins the sunbelt. 1465 01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:53,600 The problem in North Carolina is this fucking asshole 1466 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,240 who didn't drop out. 1467 01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:58,240 Trump has never mentioned that guy, I forget his name.' 1468 01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:00,080 Right, right yeah. 'The porno guy.' 1469 01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:01,880 Yeah. 'The porno Nazi guy.' 1470 01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,720 So you think at this moment... 'Listen, listen, 1471 01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:07,000 what I'm telling you is, I think she's gonna win.' 1472 01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:08,120 Yep, got it. 1473 01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,520 'But I'm saying, like, if somebody's paying me, 1474 01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,680 "I want your analysis", I'm like, look, 1475 01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,760 I don't have a high confidence on this and I'm not hedging to you.' 1476 01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,760 I mean, you're actually somewhat more optimistic on her side 1477 01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:21,600 than I am at the moment. 1478 01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,080 Call me tonight. See ya. 'Are you pissed... 1479 01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,200 Did you hear anymore about the Epstein stuff?' 1480 01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:32,440 Oh God, Jeez. All I do is hear now about is Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. 1481 01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:38,480 'I'll call you or text you when I hear about Pennsylvania.' 1482 01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,000 Thanks. 1483 01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:44,280 So that was one of my all-time favourite Trump orbit people, 1484 01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:48,600 who is often thought to be, 1485 01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:50,960 even among Trump people, 1486 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:54,240 to be the guy who knows Trump best. 1487 01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:58,640 Writing about Donald Trump 1488 01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:02,680 and Donald Trump becoming one's antagonist is an interesting, 1489 01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,160 in a way, confounding situation. 1490 01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:11,560 My first book, Fire and Fury, he denounced it, 1491 01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:15,040 threatened to sue me, the whole litany of things. 1492 01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:19,320 And that actually redounded to the success of the book. 1493 01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:24,360 You enter into this weird symbiotic relationship, 1494 01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:26,520 The more he vilifies you, 1495 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,920 the more you become a public figure. 1496 01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:33,880 You enter into his news cycle world 1497 01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,600 and likely benefit from it. 1498 01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,800 It's 5:06 on Election Day 1499 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:51,480 and the majority of quality polls are now showing 1500 01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,880 Harris with an Electoral College victory. 1501 01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:09,880 (TV CHATTER IN THE BACKGROUND) 1502 01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:18,360 Democrats with 32 seats, Republicans with 42... 1503 01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,840 She's going to do better in certain areas like Philadelphia, 1504 01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:25,120 which is a city. So that looks like she's doing well. 1505 01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,280 Looks like she's winning the state. 1506 01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:31,560 But there will be other votes coming in from rural Pennsylvania, 1507 01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,960 for instance, where Donald Trump will do much better. 1508 01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:41,720 Donald Trump. Donald Trump, you say it. 1509 01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,360 Donald Trump wins. 1510 01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:48,080 (UNCLEAR) 1511 01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:49,760 If he wins, 1512 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,600 then the likelihood is that I am committed 1513 01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:58,400 for another four years, that I am not sure 1514 01:32:58,440 --> 01:33:02,400 that I could easily extricate myself 1515 01:33:02,440 --> 01:33:07,640 from being the chronicler of the Donald Trump era. 1516 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:12,720 But I would like to go on to other things before my time is over. 1517 01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:21,760 The action, such as it is, shifts to the Grand Ballroom... 1518 01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:25,240 The rumour starting to build up is that Trump's the winner... 1519 01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:29,720 ..but in a way it seems more of a club event than an historic event. 1520 01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,400 It's blue hairs and men in sports jackets. 1521 01:33:34,440 --> 01:33:38,680 An easy victory, and that's what it increasingly seems to be, 1522 01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:42,680 might seem to deprive everyone of the sense of battle. 1523 01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:48,040 Victory seems to lack the energy and passion 1524 01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,880 of believing that victory has been stolen. 1525 01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:58,320 At 2:25 am he comes out on stage. 1526 01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,200 He seems less than himself. 1527 01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:02,360 Thank you very much. 1528 01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:06,040 Winning the popular vote was very nice. 1529 01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:07,600 Very nice, I will tell you. 1530 01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:12,720 This turn of events is certainly not evidently filling him with joy. 1531 01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:16,320 Not yet anyway. Where is the dancing? 1532 01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,200 He is, you might read the weary body language, 1533 01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:21,200 in a kind of stoic mood. 1534 01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,200 It's a flat affect. 1535 01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:26,080 Control of the Senate. Wow, that's good. 1536 01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:27,440 (CHEERING) 1537 01:34:27,480 --> 01:34:32,400 Almost, in fact, the manner of a conventional politician in defeat. 1538 01:34:32,440 --> 01:34:34,560 How to get through this? 1539 01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,520 He proceeds to deliver his standard rally speech. 1540 01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,520 A subdued Donald Trump is not Donald Trump. 1541 01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:44,320 Has victory robbed him of his reason for being? 1542 01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,600 The fact that he will take every swing state 1543 01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:52,800 that in his third try he will easily win the popular vote... 1544 01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:54,760 We've been through so much together 1545 01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,240 and today you showed up in record numbers. 1546 01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:01,680 ..that he will significantly reconfigure many safe assumptions 1547 01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:05,360 about an otherwise predictable electorate, 1548 01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:08,600 that somehow at this moment he might seem to be 1549 01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:12,080 the most successful figure in American politics 1550 01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,040 since Franklin Roosevelt, 1551 01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,920 was a new and bewildering reality, 1552 01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:20,520 even for those who were part of it, 1553 01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,160 even for him, perhaps, most of all. 1554 01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:26,800 ..you the people, we will make America safe, strong, 1555 01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,240 prosperous, powerful and free again. 1556 01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,280 (GENTLE PIANO MUSIC) 1557 01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:42,680 Subtitles by Sky Access Services www.skyaccessibility.sky 120717

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