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Previously on The Hack. Think who edited
the paper. Think about where he sits
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now. I mean, I know Andy Coulson. Him,
sitting next to the Prime Minister.
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That's wrong in every way. The police
have Mulcair's notebooks. If we can get
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them into the public eye, we'll see who
hired who, how high this goes, who was
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being hacked.
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Just be safe with yourself.
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Just be safe.
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It's a Daniel Morgan case.
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We've had some witnesses finally come
forward.
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You cannot be taking phone calls from a
protected witness.
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From today, you will have no further
contact with Gary Eden whatsoever.
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Max, we've got them on the rack.
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You settle, the whole thing gets covered
up again. You've got them on the rack.
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With what? The Murdochs agreed to pay
Clifford more than a million pounds.
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Our biggest gun was spiked.
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Our liberal conservative government will
take Britain in a historic new
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direction. A direction of hope and
unity, conviction...
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and common purpose i'm delighted to be
standing here with the new deputy prime
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minister and i would like now to invite
him to speak to us on what i think is a
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remarkable and very welcome day thank
you david we um we've just been through
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election campaign and now we have a
coalition uh until today we were rivals
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now we're colleagues
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All that work given to someone else in
the byline. I'm finding it a little bit
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hard to get my head around.
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Look.
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BBC are playing it on repeat. I've
watched it 15 times. It was sickening
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first time.
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Andy Coulson now sits at the right -hand
side of God as a direct link between
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Number 10 and Murdoch. I don't like that
whisper chat. We need our... Our own
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coalition. We need allies.
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We have allies. I'm assembling a huge
team of lawyers. People are working
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together. We need allies in the press.
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Yeah, I think I've tried. Nobody will
touch it.
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Thank you.
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Well, they weren't on Fleet Street, but
I've always thought a lot of Glen
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Campbell. I think Panorama will bite.
No, no, no. The BBC won't risk a battle
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with Murdoch. Well, then there's
Dispatches, maybe, and internationally,
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Keller.
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You can't think the New York Times would
want to be involved. Murdoch's hold on
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the Wall Street Journal is galling to
Bill. I think he could... Well, I've got
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resources, of course, but... Alan, they
won't share back.
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TV acts, mate, the New York Times.
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This will always be your story, Nick.
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No, it's bigger than that.
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Me.
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Oh, I can't make friends at school. Why
not a pen pal? I get it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I get it. It's a good idea. It's a
necessary idea.
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Good.
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So, Nick Davis and the Guardian are
losing the exclusive, but winning the
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Steve? Yep.
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I'm aware that it has taken a few years
to get to this point, and many of us are
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eager to draw these pre -trial hearings
to a close.
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But I'm afraid a new matter has arisen
that requires our attention.
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Last night, an application was made by
the counsel for the defendants as
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a possible irregularity in the conduct
of this investigation in relation to the
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prosecution witness, Mr. Gary Eaton.
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In order to resolve this, it is my view
that we must spend some time hearing
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evidence directly from DCS David Cook
and the officers in his team, which will
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begin on Monday.
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These rules are ridiculous.
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They are tight on this one. No
conferring my colleagues.
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May not work with these officers day in,
day out. They don't want you to
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prepare. Basically, it's known as an
ambush defense. And they want me to tell
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them everything about Gary Eaton.
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Well, the suspects are sitting right
there. If the judge does decide to lose
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Gary Eaton's evidence, it would be a
significant setback.
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Oh, losing Gary Eaton would be a fucking
disaster.
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So we do what the judge tells us to.
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All you have to do is answer the
questions.
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Dave will be fine.
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He's good in the spotlight.
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And while you sit in the spotlight, Boy
Scout behavior.
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Day in, day out.
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Agreed? The defence could put you under
surveillance.
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They could track your car, your phone.
They'd love nothing more than to catch
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you out.
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These men have been under arrest for
over a year. This is a fucking farce.
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Nothing to do with truth. Nothing to do
with justice.
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Do the best we can within the system
we've got.
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What do you call three Pulitzer Prize
winners sitting in a row?
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A murder, an ambush, an armada?
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Do you really call them help?
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This is quite something.
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It's remarkable journalism, Nick. Thank
you.
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Any sense they're doing it in America,
too?
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A few suspected names, nothing firm.
It's all in there.
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You have no one on record from News of
the World?
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No. But plenty off the record.
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Am I right?
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She's trying to get you to reveal who
your Mr. Epomo is.
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Oh, I see. You think he's a news
international insider.
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Interesting.
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Um, but no, not sharing.
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And frankly, even if I wanted to, he's
disappeared.
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Do you have an angle, though?
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Your paper?
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You know, Bill's instincts were royal
family, Murdoch's, press intrusion. In
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that order?
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We'll find our way.
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It's important no one can say that we
colluded with you or were baby fed just
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stand your story up. You're here to
stand my story. I wasn't saying that.
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idea is we further each other's stories.
Anything new we get, we know you're the
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keeper of the flame.
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We'll bring you in.
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I'd say likewise, but I've given you all
I have.
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I don't know when this started either.
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You might get a call from the New York
Times in the next two days.
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New York Times?
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Fancy. They're getting involved.
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We're giving them what we have.
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Two newspapers are better than one.
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You know, Nick, when I look at the kids
who come around for playdates, I
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instinctively know who are good at
sharing and who aren't. And you... Alan
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thinks it's a good idea. I think it's a
good idea. You weren't very good at
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sharing at all.
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Why? I'm not done.
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They'll do their thing.
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It actually makes it easier to pursue.
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I was actually quite good at football as
a kid, so that's what I would have done
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at your playdate. I had to find a ball
and kicked it. I didn't care about toys.
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Anyway, I have an idea.
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So, Harry Evans wrote in his memoir
about a plane crash.
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I don't know Harry Evans.
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Editor of the Sunday Times from 1967 to
81.
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Newspaper legend.
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Doesn't that mean he worked for Murdoch?
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Oh, they didn't get on.
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Murdoch fired him?
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Eventually. Actually, first he promoted
him, gave him editorship of the Times.
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And he's the hero in this story. I
haven't told the story. Well, your eyes
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he's the hero.
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So, DC -10 in Paris, passenger jet.
There was clearly a problem with the
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manufacture of the plane, but Harry
couldn't print. Without evidence?
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Exactly. So...
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Harry got his reporters to intervene,
linked the Bereave families with highly
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effective lawyers in the US because US
courts were more likely to order
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McDonnell Douglas to disclose internal
paperwork.
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My plan is to do the same. Haven't we
already tried that with Max Clifford?
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no, then you involve me, in your case,
very kindly. Now I'm going to recruit
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you.
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So they bribed Max. They won't be able
to stop an army of people. If I can get
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list of the hats.
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encourage them to come forward, we can
flood the courts.
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I can't see he was a footballer. Look,
Andy Coulson created a culture of the
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news of the world. To prove he did so,
we need to get as many of his top
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journalists implicated as possible.
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Marquez notes had Clive Goodman's name
written at the top's court record.
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So we can find the other editors who
commissioned him.
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Come on, it's time to get nuclear, don't
you think?
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The inevitable dig followed. I had to
identify, with the help of my furry
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friend, every celebrity politician and
sports star they'd gone after. High
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ranking, the low ranking, the
illustrious, the audacious.
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And then I had to persuade those people,
fight like MP Tessa Jowell.
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Yes, I have been threatened by the
police.
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All the dirt they had on your ex
-husband came from hacking. And ruined
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marriage, I am aware.
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I'd like to publish an article about
your experiences, and I'd like you to
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consider pursuing it further in court. I
have good lawyer recommendations.
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But that would mean stirring it up.
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We've struggled enough.
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Please, leave it alone.
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I had proof that Charles Clarke had been
hacked. I told a friend who knew him to
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tell him. My friend said... He's not
willing to engage.
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With Charlotte's help, I identified a
dozen law firms who specialised in
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representing celebrities. I contacted
all of them.
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I wish I could tell you their name.
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I'm getting nothing.
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Nothing? They're busy.
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They're worried about reviving an
embarrassing story.
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They can't afford it, but mostly...
Mostly, they're frightened.
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I've heard rumours about Nicole Kidman.
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Hello, Charlotte.
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Nice to meet you.
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A charming lawyer. How nice.
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Nicole's lawyer is John Kelly.
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Have you met John Kelly?
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No. She wasn't warned by the police, and
no, she won't be meeting with you or
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any other journalist.
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Mr. Kelly, this is worth pursuing.
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For Nicole, for all your clients. It's
still a no, I'm afraid.
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A hard no.
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Her trustees say no.
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Mark Thompson came about because two of
his clients, one of whom was Big
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Brother's Jade Goody, had been hacked.
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Jade had died of cancer.
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They're not interested in pursuing a
case.
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Perhaps I could talk to them. Because
you're more persuasive than me.
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I get it. You're desperate.
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There is another... someone. I can't
give you her name.
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We called her AZP.
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She's very angry.
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They've ruined her life.
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She's leaning into all this.
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I'd like to... Yeah, of course you
fucking would.
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And if she's brave enough to talk more,
then you'll hear more. But until then...
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I just also forget.
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They are profoundly scared.
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Mr. Cook, do you accept that a number of
rules were broken with regard to Gary
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Eaton?
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I do.
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And the issue for the judge to decide on
is the spirit in which these rules were
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broken. Were they broken in bad faith or
was it done transparently and in the
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interests of justice?
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Those are the two sides that we are
litigating at the moment. Do you
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that? Yes, I do.
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Let us begin with your initial meeting
with Mr Eaton.
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It's been suggested that you led the
witness during this conversation.
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I think it's important for me to say
that I never wanted to meet with Mr.
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in the first place.
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He insisted he would only speak with me,
so I went along.
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And the job is to find out if he was
valid.
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And to do that, you have to ask some
probing questions.
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Give me the name of the brothers.
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That's hardly a probing question.
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Is it, Mr. Cook?
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He wasn't interested in any brothers at
all, was he? You gave him the brothers.
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I gave him the brothers. I did not give
him the name of the brothers. You were
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aware at that first meeting of how
important it was to preserve the
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the process?
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And that's what I thought we were doing.
It was all recorded.
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And we all have the transcripts here
before us, but that wasn't my question.
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It was a simple question.
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Let's try another.
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Do you accept that by having direct
phone conversations with the witness,
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were breaching the sterile corridor
system?
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Yes, I do, but I would say that this was
a particularly difficult circumstance.
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It wasn't difficult at all. All you had
to do was say to this man, I'm sorry,
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the rules are I'm not allowed to have
direct contact with you.
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You have your own witness protection
handler. They can sort out any problems
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may have. But from now on, you must not
ring me. And if you do, my phone will
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bar you. And that is what I did on
several occasions.
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Did you ever bar Gary Eaton from calling
your phone?
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Not always possible on every type of
phone.
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Are you saying that it's not possible
from a Metropolitan Police phone?
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It's a terribly simple question.
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He changed his number. I didn't know his
number.
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I'd like to turn now to the issue of
your note -taking.
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My Lord, between August the 23rd and the
16th of September 2006, not one
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of Mr. Cook's numerous telephone calls
to Ethan appears on the schedule.
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Mr. Cook!
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Do you mind telling us how it is that
between the 23rd of August and the 16th
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September you managed to make so many
calls without recording any of them?
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From memory, the vast majority, if not
all, were to do with Mr Eaton's welfare,
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domestics, stuff like that, nuisance
stuff. But you accept, do you not, that
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court has no way of knowing what was
said during these calls?
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I accept that. My lord, do you mind if I
sit down? I suffer from vertigo.
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Please.
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Let us look at tab number nine. We can
see top line that the debrief begins
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on the 1st of August. We can see that
it's followed the next day by a call
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is 15 minutes long.
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That one is logged. Then on the 28th of
August...
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There's a nine -minute call which is not
blocked. Then, on the 1st of September,
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Eaton suddenly changes his story. He
says for the first time that he was at
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scene of the murder.
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What are you suggesting?
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I'm suggesting that that may not be a
coincidence, Mr Cook.
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I suppose you're going to deny it and
say that it is just a coincidence?
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going to deny that during these unlogged
calls you were feeding Mr Eaton his
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story? Why would I do not? This case has
been causing the Metropolitan Police
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untold embarrassment for over two
decades.
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You were desperate to nail someone.
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Of course, if you think you have
somebody who may be an eyewitness, you
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them with both arms. But you allowed
this dishonest, mentally ill man to run
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riot over your investigation. Not only
that, but you manipulated him because he
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was easily manipulable and because he
was your one way of bringing this case
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back to life and ending your career.
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With a real coup, isn't that what has
gone on here, Mr. Cook?
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You could not be further from Richard,
sir.
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If you haven't changed your ways, no
chance.
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Thanks.
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Can you still win? Now that we've lost
Gary Eaton, the entire case, Ruth and
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women, Monday Wright, Jimmy Cook's ex
-girlfriend, who was basically a fucking
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nightmare, and James Ward, our original
supergraph, was a radical
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bet.
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Nine days they kept me in that bed.
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And day one, I really thought I could
win.
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Hope.
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Yeah, I remember hope.
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I'm sorry they did that to you.
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You didn't deserve it.
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Yeah, maybe I did.
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It's all about you.
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Can you, um, win?
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Journalism isn't about winning or
losing. It's about the gradual erosion
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-worth.
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Alan's given the story to Panorama and
the New York Times, and he's probably
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right, because I can't get anyone to go
to court, which means we can't... I
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thought I had a way to get to Mulcair's
notes. I thought I was finally getting
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somewhere, but, like everything, I
tried.
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What about Jonathan Rees?
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Surely he's just as bad as Mulcair.
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He's on trial, if you haven't noticed.
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We raided his house a few years ago.
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We found invoices on his desk.
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Rees to Alex Marinchuk for the News of
the World. Now, Rees went to prison for
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conspiring to prevent the course of
justice, came out and went right back
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the Employee News of the World while
Andy Coulson was the editor.
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Andy Coulson?
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News of the World employed a convicted
criminal?
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Now, this fell into your lap, OK?
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You can't quote me.
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You can't name Rees.
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But you can use this to nail them.
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This could get you in serious trouble.
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I'm already in serious trouble.
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So you're calling Jonathan Rees Mr.
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Ray? I think it's my best pseudonym yet.
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Can't name him till after the Morgan
trial.
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It's very tenuous legally even to hide
him under a pseudonym. His lawyers can
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claim contempt of court.
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Coulson being in government is a
contempt.
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It's a good story. Does it stand out? My
source is solid. Jonathan Rees was in
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prison for conspiring to pervert the
course of justice.
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And then he's the world rehired him.
After he was released from prison while
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Coulson was editor.
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Feels a good one.
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We'll need to give Coulson a right of
reply.
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This is the most archaic practice,
giving people quotes in articles against
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them. It's just free advertising space
for their lives. I think it's necessary.
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If we publish his right of reply, we'll
be misleading our readers.
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Whatever the fight, I think it's better
to stick to established journalist
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practice, don't you? What would you know
about journalism? You're a lawyer.
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Nick, could you maybe talk to her with a
bit more respect?
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Oh, fuck off. With respect. Nick.
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Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
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Rufus, sorry, Jill. I know how vital you
are to all this. Just busy time, busy
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head.
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I'll alert some people.
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Go backstage.
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I know this will spread.
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The other newspapers, they can't ignore
this. It has to.
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Jill? If you get the quote from Cawthon,
I think we can argue public interest.
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I agree.
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Thank you.
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This is good.
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Whoever your source is, this is good.
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Would it surprise you to know it didn't
spread?
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All the other newspapers ignored the Mr.
A story.
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You'll get them next time.
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The trouble with next time... The
trouble with... You'll
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get them next time.
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I don't have a next time.
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You stupid child.
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Nicholas, Nicholas, don't be dramatic,
Nicholas.
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Now, let's get a washcloth for that
blood, shall we?
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I don't have it next to me.
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Hi, Nick David.
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Nick, it's Jo Becker, New York Times.
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Oh, yeah, hi.
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It's now not a good time.
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No, it's fine.
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How can I help?
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We're going to publish.
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Great. What?
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Sean Hoare is going on the record.
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He's a genuine insider.
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Oh, more than that, he's Coulson's
friend.
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They worked the Celebrity Bazaar column
that Coulson made his name on. What did
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he say?
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Well, he talked about Coulson a lot.
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I had a good relationship with him, as
it goes.
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Yeah, look at what the fuck I wanted. I
came in with a good story.
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The brief was, I don't give a fuck.
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The news of the world meeting, sir, more
fun than Guardian, one.
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You're not wrong.
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But I asked him.
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Did he know what's going on, Coulson?
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New York Times over here on this side.
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Yeah. Oh.
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Why? We want to investigate whether an
ethical line has been crossed.
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At least I'm a Guardian.
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You don't think the Guardian are valid?
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I think the Guardian are being beautiful
beings gazing down from their mighty
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high horses of pious fucks.
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You know, but the thing about you, you
see, is that you're... You're foreign.
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And I like you.
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I personally played voicemail recordings
to the bastard when we worked together
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at the Sun and the Screws.
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You played recording to Colton?
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Sean, is that on the record?
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I want a New York Mets top.
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I'm sorry?
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I want a New York Mets top, and then
it's on the record.
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Okay.
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Sure.
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Great.
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So I say we go completely crazy and have
another orange juice.
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Thank you.
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This is very good.
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I don't think they made clear the link
with Coulson.
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It's good journalism, but it's not... I
love an intimate party, Nick, but it is
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nice, don't you think, to have at least
some other people who want to be there?
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This is the New York Times.
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It's going to be a lot harder to fight
as both.
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This matters.
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It was an extremely good piece.
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The way it... It was extremely good. And
what happened next?
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Alan was right. It made everybody
braver.
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Celebrities began to look up. For
instance, Charlotte Harris began to get
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somewhere with a client, football agent
Skye Andrews. They offered him £200 ,000
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a year and £1 .2 million in free
advertising for a charity if he dropped
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case. And? He said no.
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People were willing to fight.
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Most unusual people.
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Hi, Nick Davies. Max Mosley. I'm a fan
of your work.
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Then Max Mosley did something
extraordinary.
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To be clear, we didn't meet at the
Guardian, but this setting will do. I'd
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to back, financially, anyone wishing to
bring a case against the news of the
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world. Indemnify them against costs and
damages.
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Max, that could bring millions.
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I'm guessing you saw it.
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Nazi sex orgy.
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Photos of me.
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It was not Nazi. It was consenting, but
they didn't care.
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I sued. I got a small reward.
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I survived.
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My son didn't.
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Heroin overdose one year after the story
was published.
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I'm sorry?
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They can attack us when our children are
damaged.
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But are you sure that this is what you
want to spend your fortune on?
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You underestimate my fortune, Mr. Davis.
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And my anger.
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The world started to unfold before us.
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The strategy started to work. Allies
were, well, not exactly everywhere, but
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gathering. And then the game changed.
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Mark Thompson got in touch. His client,
AZP. Do you remember AZP? Well,
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apparently she loved the New York Times
piece and the Mr. A story, and she
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wanted to meet.
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Oh, and AZP, she did.
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Deanna Miller, meet Nick Davis.
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Pleasure to meet you.
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Yes. Actor.
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Tabloid magnet.
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R .A.'s card.
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He knows it's coming.
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Everyone's been whispering to her to
stop.
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All of Hollywood.
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Some roles are being withdrawn.
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Others are being promised if she just
lets it go.
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You've decided to keep fighting?
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They've also said they've told me that
there is more muck on me they'd use,
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which is... I mean...
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Probably true, but I mean, how can they
print anything worse?
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All the papers are after her.
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Can I ask, Sienna, can I ask what
happened?
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I can't go into the details.
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And I really don't want to pry, but what
were they digging for?
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Um... Seemingly, um...
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Well, anything about me is interesting.
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The restaurants I go to, what I wear,
people I meet.
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But it seems their attention was
particularly grabbed by... I
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got pregnant and
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I had a decision to make.
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You understand?
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And at that time, when you're dealing
with that, you need people that you can
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trust, and I didn't trust anyone.
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I thought that they were all selling
stories about me because they knew
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everything.
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And I couldn't work out why. I couldn't
work out why anything I told my friends
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or family was being leaked.
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I thought, I mean, I started to.
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Yeah.
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I, uh... The number of people
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that I trusted grew smaller and smaller
until there was almost no one at all.
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I didn't know which way was up. Not
anymore. I drank too much, did all the
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things, damaged my career, damaged
myself.
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And they feasted on it.
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Was this Mulcair?
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We don't know. We don't know who was
doing what. All we know is the results
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it.
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The thing that I was most, um... sorry
about was that I, um...
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I damaged my family.
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Once it was all, um...
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I
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only basically told my mum.
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Then they still found out.
479
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,580
And they published, and I thought it was
her.
480
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:02,640
I thought it was her, you know.
481
00:30:07,140 --> 00:30:08,140
That's been horrible.
482
00:30:10,020 --> 00:30:11,100
But I'm a celebrity.
483
00:30:12,140 --> 00:30:15,740
I chose all this. It's not their fault.
It's in the public interest.
484
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,400
We're taking this all the way.
485
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:20,840
Good.
486
00:30:28,220 --> 00:30:29,700
We're going to have to disclose this.
487
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,400
I'm afraid we've no choice.
488
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,800
But I ain't done nothing.
489
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,420
Lindsay, your entire search history's
here. You can see what you searched and
490
00:30:38,420 --> 00:30:39,420
when you searched it.
491
00:30:39,740 --> 00:30:42,780
But I'm allowed to be curious, aren't I?
492
00:30:43,780 --> 00:30:45,240
I'm not going to be allowed to be
curious.
493
00:30:45,580 --> 00:30:51,280
Look, you're accusing Jimmy Cook of over
30 separate murders.
494
00:30:52,940 --> 00:30:56,500
And each time you change a statement and
say you remember a new murder, it comes
495
00:30:56,500 --> 00:31:00,300
off the back of an internet search on
how to commit that particular type of
496
00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:01,300
murder.
497
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,880
Disclosing this means that we can no
longer put you forward as a witness of
498
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,880
truth.
499
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:12,720
And I'm afraid, Lindsay, I'm afraid we
lost the only other witness who had
500
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,720
evidence on Jimmy.
501
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,640
For your statement, that was all the
prosecution had to go on.
502
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:22,670
James Frederick William Cook.
503
00:31:23,370 --> 00:31:24,470
Stand, please.
504
00:31:26,450 --> 00:31:33,130
I direct a verdict of not guilty in
respect of count one, and you are now
505
00:31:33,130 --> 00:31:34,130
to go.
506
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:39,090
No, no, no, no, no.
507
00:31:39,930 --> 00:31:42,510
What is he... Oh, shit.
508
00:31:43,270 --> 00:31:45,050
I'm now number one target, you know
that.
509
00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:46,850
How could you let this happen?
510
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,040
You take sugar?
511
00:32:05,580 --> 00:32:06,780
Uh, just half.
512
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,360
And a splash of milk.
513
00:32:10,180 --> 00:32:11,180
Thanks.
514
00:32:14,820 --> 00:32:16,760
Uh, how long you been here, then?
515
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,240
Moved in a while ago.
516
00:32:19,780 --> 00:32:25,080
I know, I just haven't had time to...
There's a sofa coming.
517
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:26,760
Thanks.
518
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,040
Yeah, I was actually pretty choked when
I heard.
519
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,660
You and Jackie always seem solid.
520
00:32:36,420 --> 00:32:37,420
Yeah.
521
00:32:39,380 --> 00:32:41,240
Heard you and Vicky got married. That's
great.
522
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,100
We invited you to the wedding, but you
never RSVP'd.
523
00:32:44,860 --> 00:32:45,860
Did you?
524
00:32:47,940 --> 00:32:49,280
I'm so sorry.
525
00:32:51,420 --> 00:32:52,900
I've been busy. Frantic.
526
00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:54,740
Work. Life.
527
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,500
That's what you get for having friends
who are coppers.
528
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,220
They disappear on you for years on end.
529
00:33:02,250 --> 00:33:03,250
So are Stowe Piles.
530
00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:08,570
But I don't know why you're here.
531
00:33:09,230 --> 00:33:10,230
You want something?
532
00:33:10,490 --> 00:33:13,570
Alan Rusbridger and the Guardian have
been in touch with us at Panorama.
533
00:33:14,050 --> 00:33:17,630
It's the hacking stuff, but there's also
this story on Jonathan Rees that
534
00:33:17,630 --> 00:33:18,569
they've been pushing.
535
00:33:18,570 --> 00:33:22,250
I know you've been on Daniel Morgan, so
Rees is your bag, right?
536
00:33:25,530 --> 00:33:27,590
Look, I'm sorry. We can talk about other
things.
537
00:33:28,410 --> 00:33:30,070
I'll take my BBC hat off.
538
00:33:31,270 --> 00:33:32,600
Genuinely. I wanted to see you.
539
00:33:35,340 --> 00:33:36,340
How are you?
540
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,960
No.
541
00:33:39,740 --> 00:33:40,740
Open.
542
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:43,300
Oh, that's strange.
543
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,500
A house without kids.
544
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,320
Pretty quiet.
545
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,460
I think I need to get better and fill in
on the time.
546
00:33:59,260 --> 00:34:00,260
We should be...
547
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,280
Aiming for a coalition of lawyers.
548
00:34:02,740 --> 00:34:05,600
Coalition? I mean government now. I have
other friendly lawyers with very high
549
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,860
profile clients. Yeah, I do actually
know who you're talking about. Sky
550
00:34:07,860 --> 00:34:11,179
Advocate, progressing under your watch,
is still not accepting their terms. No.
551
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,400
Max Mosley has promised to financially
back any client who comes forward.
552
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,440
we can encourage them all to come
forward now. Nick, breathe.
553
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:19,500
Okay.
554
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:25,320
You are constantly swaying between utter
despair and this. It's exhausting.
555
00:34:26,219 --> 00:34:28,000
The law needs time.
556
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,580
We are building something.
557
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,060
Let it fucking build.
558
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,100
Stop worrying about the New York Times
getting there before you. This is your
559
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:35,679
case. I'm not worried about the New York
Times.
560
00:34:36,340 --> 00:34:38,120
I don't have Sienna Miller as a client.
561
00:34:38,460 --> 00:34:42,620
You don't have Sean Hall in your pocket,
but we are all working together. Stop
562
00:34:42,620 --> 00:34:43,639
doing that thing with your hands.
563
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,380
I have another one for you. A former
politician.
564
00:34:48,540 --> 00:34:50,840
Apparently, he's had sight of Margot's
notebook.
565
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:57,660
I've been reluctant to share him because
I think he's tricky, but you want
566
00:34:57,660 --> 00:34:58,660
everyone.
567
00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:02,540
What I'm interested in is in Mulcair's
notebooks.
568
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,440
I've no interest in what it shows, but
there'll be a name at the top corner of
569
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,100
the notes, which is the name of someone
at the News of the World.
570
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,940
Have you read what the Guardian has
written about me, about this case?
571
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,560
Tommy Sheridan, a defamation case which
became a perjury case, a process of
572
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,240
disclosure on which allowed him access
to Mulcair and to his paperwork.
573
00:35:24,180 --> 00:35:25,180
And he's right.
574
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,420
The Guardian haven't been kind about
him.
575
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,260
What I'm going to do is to build a case
against Andy Coulson and the culture of
576
00:35:32,260 --> 00:35:35,780
the news of the world that the hacking
was endemic. Yes, there's a name. No,
577
00:35:35,780 --> 00:35:38,180
can't see it. And you certainly can't
print it.
578
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,820
I don't trust journalists, Nick.
579
00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:42,718
Not anymore.
580
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:47,660
Okay, the name is important because it
undermines the one rogue reporter
581
00:35:47,660 --> 00:35:51,760
argument which Coulson keeps hiding
behind. The more editors and senior
582
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,580
journalists we can implicate, the more
we show them lying.
583
00:36:02,450 --> 00:36:03,450
Greg Miskew.
584
00:36:05,210 --> 00:36:06,490
Greg Miskew, you sure?
585
00:36:07,630 --> 00:36:08,630
I didn't tell you?
586
00:36:09,170 --> 00:36:10,170
You're not printing it?
587
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:12,810
Greg Miskew was news editor, later
assistant editor.
588
00:36:13,230 --> 00:36:17,170
He's retired now, but he reported
directly to Coulson. I know who Greg
589
00:36:17,170 --> 00:36:19,730
now. Do you know how significant this
is? This could blow the lid off. This
590
00:36:19,730 --> 00:36:21,070
to be off the record.
591
00:36:28,830 --> 00:36:31,370
Do you understand that you're
representing yourself in court?
592
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:33,830
Yes. What if I was to help you?
593
00:36:35,470 --> 00:36:36,470
Go on.
594
00:36:36,530 --> 00:36:40,190
There's very little I know a lot about,
but this issue is one of them. I could
595
00:36:40,190 --> 00:36:42,810
feed you questions, help with your
research, all for nothing.
596
00:36:43,090 --> 00:36:44,090
For the name of the notebook.
597
00:36:44,350 --> 00:36:48,750
That name is dynamite. Greg Miskew is
dynamite. And you can print it because
598
00:36:48,750 --> 00:36:49,790
it's been stated in court.
599
00:36:50,050 --> 00:36:52,050
I have an idea who you should call as a
witness.
600
00:36:54,050 --> 00:36:55,050
Go on.
601
00:36:55,550 --> 00:36:56,550
Andy Coulson.
602
00:36:59,110 --> 00:37:00,110
You're a traitor.
603
00:37:02,090 --> 00:37:05,970
Start by asking him about Greg Miskew.
He'll deny any knowledge.
604
00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:11,430
Mr. Coulson, these are the written notes
of the former News of the World
605
00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:13,650
employee, Glenn Mulcair.
606
00:37:13,930 --> 00:37:15,850
Contractor, not employee.
607
00:37:16,130 --> 00:37:20,610
Mr. Coulson, do you recognize the name
of the top left -hand corner of the
608
00:37:20,930 --> 00:37:21,930
It says Greg.
609
00:37:22,150 --> 00:37:23,310
This is the big one.
610
00:37:24,690 --> 00:37:29,790
Do you think that name refers to the
former assistant editor, Greg Miskew?
611
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,840
Not to my knowledge, no. Do you have any
knowledge of Greg Miskew ordering Glenn
612
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,860
Mulcair to hack Tommy Sheridan's phone?
Are you telling me that you never
613
00:37:38,860 --> 00:37:44,060
ordered or were unaware of Greg Miskew
ordering Mr. Mulcair to tap my phone?
614
00:37:44,380 --> 00:37:49,220
No. I had absolutely no knowledge of it,
and I certainly didn't instruct anyone
615
00:37:49,220 --> 00:37:55,440
to do anything of the type. Interesting,
because Sean Hall in the New York Times
616
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,760
stated that he played you hacked.
617
00:37:58,390 --> 00:38:02,150
Voicemail. I remain confident there is
no evidence to support Mr. Hall's
618
00:38:02,150 --> 00:38:03,330
accusations. That's my position.
619
00:38:03,650 --> 00:38:06,590
Do you have any comment on why Mr. Hall
would have made those accusations?
620
00:38:06,990 --> 00:38:10,250
You should ask Mr. Hall. How bad was the
culture at your newspaper?
621
00:38:10,610 --> 00:38:14,830
I don't accept there was any culture of
phone hacking at the News of the World.
622
00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:21,550
There was one unfortunate case involving
Clive Goodman, and no one was more
623
00:38:21,550 --> 00:38:22,550
sorry about it than me.
624
00:38:23,790 --> 00:38:24,970
And that's why I resigned.
625
00:38:26,530 --> 00:38:27,530
Tommy Sheridan.
626
00:38:28,590 --> 00:38:32,470
We got Miskew's name out there. It
wasn't enough, but we're rattling
627
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:33,470
cage.
628
00:38:34,010 --> 00:38:36,270
Well, let's see if this sends him over
the edge.
629
00:38:36,810 --> 00:38:39,070
This was lodged in the High Court this
morning.
630
00:38:39,410 --> 00:38:42,350
Worth mentioning, in real life, he made
me go to the courthouse to pick this up
631
00:38:42,350 --> 00:38:43,350
myself.
632
00:38:44,110 --> 00:38:45,110
Possibly not worth mentioning.
633
00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:50,950
Mulcair blagged her phone number. I
changed my phone twice, and somehow they
634
00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:53,510
always got it. It wasn't just her phone
they were inside of.
635
00:38:53,820 --> 00:38:58,460
They targeted Sienna's mother, her
boyfriend, his assistant, her publicist.
636
00:38:58,460 --> 00:39:02,980
analysed my item on phone bills and then
we used them to force the police to
637
00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:04,700
hand over calls made by Mulcair.
638
00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:08,200
The police were sitting on this
information for four years, I'll remind
639
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:09,700
John Yates.
640
00:39:09,820 --> 00:39:10,820
Four years.
641
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,260
And then we linked them to the news of
the world stories.
642
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,080
There was a name that appeared in the
top corner of Glenn's notes.
643
00:39:19,380 --> 00:39:20,800
A name we haven't heard before.
644
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,040
A name.
645
00:39:22,270 --> 00:39:23,410
that could change everything.
646
00:39:23,710 --> 00:39:24,710
Tell me the name.
647
00:39:27,130 --> 00:39:28,230
Ian Edmondson.
648
00:39:28,830 --> 00:39:32,810
Ian Edmondson? You reported directly to
Coulson? Ian Edmondson is the current
649
00:39:32,810 --> 00:39:34,790
news editor of the News of the World.
650
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,940
Miss Q and Edmondson, chief reporter,
former news editor, current news editor.
651
00:39:53,060 --> 00:39:54,019
That is a culture.
652
00:39:54,020 --> 00:39:56,040
A culture Coulson has created.
653
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:57,940
We don't survive this.
654
00:40:04,660 --> 00:40:06,440
Just heard. Good work, Nick.
655
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,000
Is it the kick?
656
00:40:38,220 --> 00:40:39,220
No, no, no.
657
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,320
It's about your father.
658
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:44,940
God, I'm so sorry, Nick.
659
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:08,720
Yeah, Graham.
660
00:41:08,740 --> 00:41:10,920
We found two crates in an old DPS
office.
661
00:41:11,980 --> 00:41:13,280
A cleaner found them.
662
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,600
Sold evidence on James Ward.
663
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:23,400
But we told the judge we'd declared
everything on Lord.
664
00:41:24,020 --> 00:41:25,020
I'm sorry.
665
00:41:28,860 --> 00:41:29,860
How about that?
666
00:41:31,980 --> 00:41:33,720
Now this is the end, right?
667
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,440
Do you want the official answer or the
honest answer?
668
00:41:38,820 --> 00:41:40,000
We don't survive that.
669
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,040
I don't understand.
670
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,700
How can they accuse us of withholding
evidence when you didn't even know that
671
00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:53,260
the crazy... It was a disused police
building.
672
00:41:53,500 --> 00:41:55,140
Nothing to do with your team, right?
673
00:41:55,340 --> 00:41:56,340
Yeah.
674
00:41:57,020 --> 00:41:59,460
The office was locked for years. Nobody
knew anything about it.
675
00:42:02,060 --> 00:42:07,240
But even if we could make the case that
we weren't withholding the files, the
676
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:13,400
contents, the details about James Ward,
they didn't originally disclose to us.
677
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:19,100
If we'd have had the files earlier, we
may have been able to deal with it, but
678
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:25,920
all of it together, it's years and years
and years
679
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:26,920
gone.
680
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,100
All because someone left some files in
the wrong room.
681
00:42:34,830 --> 00:42:39,330
It's like everyone forgot all the people
in their court.
682
00:42:41,130 --> 00:42:43,050
This was supposed to be about Daniel.
683
00:43:14,250 --> 00:43:15,350
I really loved him.
684
00:43:15,710 --> 00:43:16,850
I know.
685
00:43:17,210 --> 00:43:18,210
He was heavenly.
686
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:22,870
You're very complicated, but I really
loved him.
687
00:43:25,230 --> 00:43:28,410
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not
want.
688
00:43:28,690 --> 00:43:31,450
He makes me lie down in green pastures.
689
00:43:31,790 --> 00:43:33,910
He leads me beside still waters.
690
00:43:34,570 --> 00:43:36,290
He restores my soul.
691
00:43:37,150 --> 00:43:40,050
He leads me in right paths for his
name's sake.
692
00:43:41,130 --> 00:43:45,090
Even though I walk through the darkest
valley, I fear no evil.
693
00:43:45,730 --> 00:43:49,930
For you are with me, your rod and your
staff, they comfort me.
694
00:43:50,650 --> 00:43:54,550
You prepare a table before me in the
presence of my enemies.
695
00:43:55,970 --> 00:44:00,430
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow
me all the days of my life.
696
00:44:01,010 --> 00:44:05,230
And I shall dwell in the house of the
Lord my whole life long.
697
00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:26,960
On the 14th of January, 2011, Rebecca
Brooks asked her secretary to find
698
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,760
somewhere discreet for her to meet Andy
Coulson.
699
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:35,440
She did so the next day at 7 .45 a .m.
at the Hawken Hotel in Belgravia.
700
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,380
We don't know what Brooks said to
Coulson during that meeting, but we do
701
00:44:39,380 --> 00:44:42,920
that on the 21st of January, Andy
Coulson resigned.
702
00:44:44,260 --> 00:44:49,140
He said, unfortunately, continued
coverage of events connected to my old
703
00:44:49,140 --> 00:44:50,140
At the news of the world.
704
00:44:50,540 --> 00:44:55,700
has made it difficult for me to give the
110 needed in this role i stand by what
705
00:44:55,700 --> 00:45:01,940
i said about those events but when a
spokesman needs a spokesman it's time to
706
00:45:01,940 --> 00:45:07,100
move on thank you thank you
707
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:17,680
this
708
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:23,220
is the end of a long, as I am sure
everyone associated with this case will
709
00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:25,300
agree, exhausting road.
710
00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:30,640
In all the years that I have been a
judge, I have never come across a case
711
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,520
which there have been so many issues or
such complex issues to be resolved
712
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,340
before a trial could even get underway.
713
00:45:38,740 --> 00:45:45,620
The family will inevitably be
disappointed by the outcome, but they, I
714
00:45:45,740 --> 00:45:47,280
should be commended.
715
00:45:47,950 --> 00:45:51,790
on the dignity with which they have
faced these proceedings.
716
00:45:53,310 --> 00:46:00,150
Mr. Rees, Mr. Fillory, Mr. Glenn Vian,
Mr. Gary Vian, please stand.
717
00:46:05,830 --> 00:46:07,430
You are free to go.
718
00:46:08,650 --> 00:46:13,150
Verdicts of not guilty have been entered
in all of your cases.
719
00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:16,090
Thank you all.
720
00:46:28,410 --> 00:46:29,610
Your dad?
721
00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:30,910
Yep.
722
00:46:32,030 --> 00:46:33,530
He was a nice man.
723
00:46:33,790 --> 00:46:35,050
You didn't know him.
724
00:46:36,770 --> 00:46:38,450
You made him sound nice.
725
00:46:43,710 --> 00:46:46,970
And to Andy Coulson.
726
00:46:48,170 --> 00:46:50,590
May he disappear and never come back.
727
00:46:54,330 --> 00:46:57,590
I may as well tell you we're reporting
it tomorrow.
728
00:46:59,550 --> 00:47:02,190
Murdoch's going for full control of B
-Sky B.
729
00:47:02,590 --> 00:47:06,270
I did hear it was possible.
730
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:10,370
If he gets that, he'll be able to
leverage a serious amount of debt.
731
00:47:10,810 --> 00:47:12,530
By more, by bigger.
732
00:47:13,230 --> 00:47:15,990
We're talking world domination.
733
00:47:17,130 --> 00:47:18,330
Why are you telling me this?
734
00:47:20,770 --> 00:47:22,550
To remind you it's not over.
735
00:47:24,030 --> 00:47:27,450
Remind me that they cut Coulson loose to
save him.
736
00:47:29,370 --> 00:47:31,690
It's all a false victory.
737
00:47:32,090 --> 00:47:33,090
Not false at all.
738
00:47:33,970 --> 00:47:37,230
Dissection is a slow process. We tackle
them.
739
00:47:38,770 --> 00:47:42,570
One limb at a time. And eventually they
run out of limbs.
740
00:47:43,630 --> 00:47:44,630
Do they?
741
00:47:52,620 --> 00:47:57,000
We rest. We lick our wounds. We take
stock. No, I don't.
742
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,000
I don't think so. I think on this story,
I think you need to find someone to
743
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,000
take over.
744
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,860
Sometimes you need to know when to stop.
745
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,060
A bit of fresh air might be an odour.
Oh, I'm fine.
746
00:48:55,300 --> 00:48:56,300
Well, you're not.
747
00:48:57,340 --> 00:48:58,340
I'm all right.
748
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,400
Oh, you're not, mate.
749
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,560
Someone I wanted to meet.
750
00:49:04,820 --> 00:49:05,820
He helped me.
751
00:49:06,420 --> 00:49:07,560
I think he can help you.
752
00:49:09,260 --> 00:49:11,500
Get showered, get dressed. I'm not
leaving till you do it.
753
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,440
I'm serious.
754
00:49:56,509 --> 00:49:59,470
David Cook, Gordon Brown. Gordon Brown,
David Cook.
755
00:49:59,790 --> 00:50:03,630
I know a lot about you, DCS. I
appreciate you coming all this way.
756
00:50:04,690 --> 00:50:05,690
No problem.
757
00:50:05,810 --> 00:50:07,990
I'm interested to hear more about what's
happened to you.
758
00:50:08,210 --> 00:50:10,790
I think I might be able to help.
59778
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