All language subtitles for Portals.to.Hell.S01E06.Trans-Allegheny.Lunatic.Asylum.720p.WEBRip

af Afrikaans
sq Albanian
am Amharic
ar Arabic
hy Armenian
az Azerbaijani
eu Basque
be Belarusian
bn Bengali
bs Bosnian
bg Bulgarian
ca Catalan
ceb Cebuano
ny Chichewa
zh-CN Chinese (Simplified)
zh-TW Chinese (Traditional)
co Corsican
hr Croatian Download
cs Czech
da Danish
nl Dutch Download
en English
eo Esperanto
et Estonian
tl Filipino
fi Finnish
fr French Download
fy Frisian
gl Galician
ka Georgian
de German
el Greek
gu Gujarati
ht Haitian Creole
ha Hausa
haw Hawaiian
iw Hebrew
hi Hindi
hmn Hmong
hu Hungarian
is Icelandic
ig Igbo
id Indonesian
ga Irish
it Italian
ja Japanese
jw Javanese
kn Kannada
kk Kazakh
km Khmer
ko Korean
ku Kurdish (Kurmanji)
ky Kyrgyz
lo Lao
la Latin
lv Latvian
lt Lithuanian
lb Luxembourgish
mk Macedonian
mg Malagasy
ms Malay
ml Malayalam
mt Maltese
mi Maori
mr Marathi
mn Mongolian
my Myanmar (Burmese)
ne Nepali
no Norwegian
ps Pashto
fa Persian
pl Polish
pt Portuguese
pa Punjabi
ro Romanian
ru Russian
sm Samoan
gd Scots Gaelic
sr Serbian
st Sesotho
sn Shona
sd Sindhi
si Sinhala
sk Slovak
sl Slovenian
so Somali
es Spanish Download
su Sundanese
sw Swahili
sv Swedish
tg Tajik
ta Tamil
te Telugu
th Thai
tr Turkish
uk Ukrainian
ur Urdu
uz Uzbek
vi Vietnamese
cy Welsh
xh Xhosa
yi Yiddish
yo Yoruba
zu Zulu
or Odia (Oriya)
rw Kinyarwanda
tk Turkmen
tt Tatar
ug Uyghur
Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,636 --> 00:00:06,071 There's something that feels forceful here. 2 00:00:06,073 --> 00:00:08,874 First, it will see you, and it will get closer. 3 00:00:08,876 --> 00:00:11,810 ♪♪ 4 00:00:11,812 --> 00:00:14,880 Michelle: You should know that it's here. 5 00:00:14,882 --> 00:00:16,648 Aaaaaaah! 6 00:00:16,650 --> 00:00:19,084 [ sinister music plays ] 7 00:00:19,086 --> 00:00:21,553 Is this place a portal to hell? 8 00:00:21,555 --> 00:00:22,888 [ cawing ] 9 00:00:22,890 --> 00:00:23,956 -[grunts] -[cries out] 10 00:00:23,958 --> 00:00:25,524 Oh, just [bleep]. 11 00:00:25,526 --> 00:00:26,959 [ suspenseful music plays ] 12 00:00:26,961 --> 00:00:27,960 [ child giggling ] 13 00:00:27,962 --> 00:00:30,362 This is [bleep] nuts. 14 00:00:30,364 --> 00:00:32,164 [ asphyxiating ] [ voices exhaling ] 15 00:00:32,166 --> 00:00:34,466 ♪♪ 16 00:00:34,468 --> 00:00:35,868 We believes that you're demonic... 17 00:00:35,870 --> 00:00:37,403 [ cawing ] 18 00:00:37,405 --> 00:00:39,238 ...So this should really piss you off. 19 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,939 [ voice exhales ] [ bell tolling ] 20 00:00:40,941 --> 00:00:42,174 [ laughing ] 21 00:00:42,176 --> 00:00:45,044 [ sinister music plays ] 22 00:00:45,046 --> 00:00:47,346 [ voices exhaling ] 23 00:00:47,348 --> 00:00:49,048 ♪♪ 24 00:00:49,050 --> 00:00:52,284 Alright, so we are in west virginia. 25 00:00:52,286 --> 00:00:54,253 And if you're interested in investigating 26 00:00:54,255 --> 00:00:57,456 Probably one of the most haunted locations ever, 27 00:00:57,458 --> 00:00:59,892 Trans-allegheny might be your spot. 28 00:00:59,894 --> 00:01:01,460 But is it a portal? 29 00:01:01,462 --> 00:01:03,228 Yeah, and I think, too, if we're looking at it 30 00:01:03,230 --> 00:01:05,230 Through the human lens, then, you know, 31 00:01:05,232 --> 00:01:07,833 Thinking about all those people that walked through those gates, 32 00:01:07,835 --> 00:01:11,937 Trans-allegheny literally became their personal portal to hell. 33 00:01:11,939 --> 00:01:13,272 More to come. 34 00:01:13,274 --> 00:01:18,944 ♪♪ 35 00:01:18,946 --> 00:01:20,879 We are in probably the number-one place 36 00:01:20,881 --> 00:01:24,750 I tell everybody to go to -- trans-allegheny lunatic asylum. 37 00:01:24,752 --> 00:01:26,051 -I'm nervous. -Yeah? 38 00:01:26,053 --> 00:01:28,020 Yeah, this place, like, you know, 39 00:01:28,022 --> 00:01:29,455 From everything I'm reading... -Yeah. 40 00:01:29,457 --> 00:01:31,156 ...It's the spot. 41 00:01:31,158 --> 00:01:34,560 ♪♪ 42 00:01:34,562 --> 00:01:37,696 Just the history of it is dark and fascinating and weird. 43 00:01:37,698 --> 00:01:39,465 Originally, when it opened, it was only designed 44 00:01:39,467 --> 00:01:41,733 To hold 250 patients. -Mm-hmm. 45 00:01:41,735 --> 00:01:43,735 But it got to the point where there was so much 46 00:01:43,737 --> 00:01:47,606 Overcrowding that they had 2,400 patients. 47 00:01:47,608 --> 00:01:51,110 So I mean, obviously, there was not enough staff on board 48 00:01:51,112 --> 00:01:52,644 To take care of all those people. 49 00:01:52,646 --> 00:01:54,313 -That's insane. -Yeah. 50 00:01:54,315 --> 00:01:57,015 I just -- I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact 51 00:01:57,017 --> 00:02:00,152 That this place was open until 1994. 52 00:02:00,154 --> 00:02:01,453 Yeah. 53 00:02:01,455 --> 00:02:02,721 You and I were alive when this place was open. 54 00:02:02,723 --> 00:02:03,822 [ chuckles ] yeah. Yeah. 55 00:02:03,824 --> 00:02:05,124 We could have been sent here. 56 00:02:05,126 --> 00:02:07,292 Yeah. [ laughs ] 57 00:02:07,294 --> 00:02:09,795 So as far as, like, hauntings that have been reported here... 58 00:02:09,797 --> 00:02:12,464 Yeah. ...They've had full-body apparitions. 59 00:02:12,466 --> 00:02:14,299 People have been scratched, pushed. 60 00:02:14,301 --> 00:02:17,636 Hearing footsteps. Seeing footsteps. 61 00:02:17,638 --> 00:02:19,104 Ticks a lot of boxes. 62 00:02:19,106 --> 00:02:20,906 It's got it all. -Yeah. 63 00:02:20,908 --> 00:02:23,342 In north america, it's the largest hand-cut 64 00:02:23,344 --> 00:02:24,710 Stone masonry building. 65 00:02:24,712 --> 00:02:27,346 And certain stones, especially something like sandstone, 66 00:02:27,348 --> 00:02:29,181 Which has a high level of quartz, 67 00:02:29,183 --> 00:02:33,152 Can basically record emotional, traumatic events 68 00:02:33,154 --> 00:02:35,921 Such as the things we know happened at trans-allegheny. 69 00:02:35,923 --> 00:02:39,224 So essentially, we're looking at possibly 70 00:02:39,226 --> 00:02:41,793 One of the biggest recorders for paranormal activity. 71 00:02:43,497 --> 00:02:45,464 Could it be a thing where just places 72 00:02:45,466 --> 00:02:49,001 That have so much pain and anguish and suffering 73 00:02:49,003 --> 00:02:50,736 Manifest as some kind of portal? 74 00:02:50,738 --> 00:02:52,070 Yeah. 75 00:02:52,072 --> 00:02:55,140 You know, all that energy turns into something that, 76 00:02:55,142 --> 00:02:57,876 You know, allows more negative energy to grow. 77 00:02:57,878 --> 00:03:02,414 Also, you have 666 acres with 13 buildings. 78 00:03:02,416 --> 00:03:04,616 -Is that really true? -It's true. 79 00:03:04,618 --> 00:03:06,985 [ laughing ] 13 buildings, 666 acres. 80 00:03:06,987 --> 00:03:09,421 -Is this it? -This is it, yeah. 81 00:03:09,423 --> 00:03:13,358 ♪♪ 82 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,561 This is crazy. 83 00:03:15,563 --> 00:03:22,434 ♪♪ 84 00:03:22,436 --> 00:03:24,503 -Are you ready for this? -Jack: Okay, let's do it. 85 00:03:24,505 --> 00:03:32,844 ♪♪ 86 00:03:32,846 --> 00:03:35,447 Enter if you dare. [ gasps ] 87 00:03:35,449 --> 00:03:36,715 Jack: We're gonna go meet rebecca. 88 00:03:36,717 --> 00:03:39,284 She is the owner of the hospital now. 89 00:03:39,286 --> 00:03:41,453 Her and her father purchased it a few years back. 90 00:03:41,455 --> 00:03:43,589 Rebecca conducts ghost tours here. 91 00:03:43,591 --> 00:03:44,756 Katrina: Great to see you. 92 00:03:44,758 --> 00:03:46,358 -Oh, you, too. -Hi. How's it going? 93 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,526 -And this must be jack. -Jack. 94 00:03:47,528 --> 00:03:48,694 -Yes. -Nice to meet you. 95 00:03:48,696 --> 00:03:49,861 -Nice to meet you. -It's a pleasure. 96 00:03:49,863 --> 00:03:51,029 Thank you. Thanks for having us. 97 00:03:51,031 --> 00:03:52,664 -Follow me this way. -Yeah. Okay, great. 98 00:03:52,666 --> 00:03:57,002 ♪♪ 99 00:03:57,004 --> 00:03:58,403 Jack: What made you guys decide to but it? 100 00:03:58,405 --> 00:04:00,138 Rebecca: They put it up for auction, and dad decided 101 00:04:00,140 --> 00:04:04,676 He wanted to save it, so here we are 11 years later. 102 00:04:04,678 --> 00:04:05,844 Okay, now, this is all about 103 00:04:05,846 --> 00:04:07,846 Walter freeman, the famous lobotomist. 104 00:04:07,848 --> 00:04:10,415 Walter freeman actually came here 105 00:04:10,417 --> 00:04:13,518 And performed over 100 lobotomies. 106 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:14,987 Jack: You know, a lot of the practices here 107 00:04:14,989 --> 00:04:19,157 On the patients were, like, experimental torture. 108 00:04:19,159 --> 00:04:21,760 There was a lot of death here. 109 00:04:21,762 --> 00:04:23,895 There was a lot of pain, lot of human suffering. 110 00:04:23,897 --> 00:04:25,497 It's just twisted. 111 00:04:25,499 --> 00:04:28,267 He would line the patients up without any type of consent. 112 00:04:28,269 --> 00:04:29,735 What they would do, they would use an ice pick, 113 00:04:29,737 --> 00:04:32,337 Kind of like in a windshield wiper motion, 114 00:04:32,339 --> 00:04:35,707 And that basically would disconnect the frontal lobe 115 00:04:35,709 --> 00:04:37,142 From the rest of your brain. 116 00:04:37,144 --> 00:04:40,045 Basically, all of your ideas, your thoughts, your personality, 117 00:04:40,047 --> 00:04:41,747 All of that is contained in your frontal lobe, 118 00:04:41,749 --> 00:04:43,548 Which is the front part of your brain. 119 00:04:43,550 --> 00:04:46,084 And he thought if you're violent, you know, 120 00:04:46,086 --> 00:04:49,021 By taking those emotions away from you, 121 00:04:49,023 --> 00:04:51,089 That would therefore make the perfect patient. 122 00:04:52,459 --> 00:04:54,426 Katrina: It's never easy hearing about because, I mean, 123 00:04:54,428 --> 00:04:56,828 You just think about -- even just a lobotomy 124 00:04:56,830 --> 00:04:59,964 And how that was done just gives me shivers. 125 00:04:59,966 --> 00:05:01,433 It's just sad to know that that many people 126 00:05:01,435 --> 00:05:03,035 Were subjected to it. 127 00:05:03,037 --> 00:05:05,771 ♪♪ 128 00:05:05,773 --> 00:05:07,272 How many documented deaths 129 00:05:07,274 --> 00:05:09,074 Does this place have that you know of? 130 00:05:09,076 --> 00:05:12,044 So I know that there's been thousands of deaths here. 131 00:05:12,046 --> 00:05:13,512 -Katrina: Yeah. -I know we have over -- 132 00:05:13,514 --> 00:05:15,781 We have three graveyards on the farm, 133 00:05:15,783 --> 00:05:19,184 And I think it's just over 2,100 are in there right now. 134 00:05:19,186 --> 00:05:20,485 Jack and katrina: Wow. 135 00:05:20,487 --> 00:05:22,087 And those are ones that the families basically... 136 00:05:22,089 --> 00:05:24,189 Jack: Were just like, "whatever." ...Didn't claim, didn't pick up. 137 00:05:24,191 --> 00:05:26,458 -Katrina: Aw. -Oh, it's -- it's terrible. 138 00:05:26,460 --> 00:05:28,627 Jack: This was actually, like, death row, a prison, 139 00:05:28,629 --> 00:05:30,429 And an insane asylum 140 00:05:30,431 --> 00:05:32,397 And the executioner's chair all in one. 141 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:38,337 ♪♪ 142 00:05:38,339 --> 00:05:39,671 Rebecca: Let's head on down here. 143 00:05:39,673 --> 00:05:42,374 I'd like to introduce you to a lady named jane. 144 00:05:42,376 --> 00:05:43,975 -Katrina: Okay. -Jack: Oh. 145 00:05:43,977 --> 00:05:47,713 Rebecca: This is the hall where jane harvey lived. 146 00:05:47,715 --> 00:05:48,980 Katrina: Mm-hmm. 147 00:05:48,982 --> 00:05:51,516 And jane harvey was a patient here in the 1890s. 148 00:05:51,518 --> 00:05:54,119 The only reason that we know to actually look for jane 149 00:05:54,121 --> 00:05:57,255 Is 'cause people have heard the name jane. 150 00:05:57,257 --> 00:05:59,558 She said she harmed herself. 151 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:00,692 So, about four years ago, 152 00:06:00,694 --> 00:06:02,327 I was able to get these historic books 153 00:06:02,329 --> 00:06:04,963 Which record all the deaths, basically, 154 00:06:04,965 --> 00:06:06,298 And the people being admitted, 155 00:06:06,300 --> 00:06:11,169 And I find a jane harvey, that she had killed herself. 156 00:06:11,171 --> 00:06:13,905 And where was her room? Do you know? 157 00:06:13,907 --> 00:06:17,109 We believe it's one of these right here. 158 00:06:17,111 --> 00:06:20,245 So because of paranormal investigations happening here, 159 00:06:20,247 --> 00:06:22,748 People were collecting kind of the stuff 160 00:06:22,750 --> 00:06:25,450 Coming through on their devices, gave it to you... Absolutely. 161 00:06:25,452 --> 00:06:27,219 And then as you were doing historical research, 162 00:06:27,221 --> 00:06:28,920 You found something that actually matched it. 163 00:06:28,922 --> 00:06:30,522 -Yes, we found her... -Katrina: Yeah. 164 00:06:30,524 --> 00:06:32,858 ...Which was -- which was really interesting... Jack: Wow. 165 00:06:32,860 --> 00:06:36,661 ...And we have a full account of her suicide. 166 00:06:36,663 --> 00:06:37,863 Wow. 167 00:06:37,865 --> 00:06:40,132 Basically, she'd just been put in her room. 168 00:06:40,134 --> 00:06:43,068 She sat down in front of her bed with a sheet, 169 00:06:43,070 --> 00:06:44,403 Tied it around her neck, 170 00:06:44,405 --> 00:06:47,105 And kneeled in front of the bed and leaned forward. 171 00:06:47,107 --> 00:06:55,680 ♪♪ 172 00:06:55,682 --> 00:07:04,356 ♪♪ 173 00:07:04,358 --> 00:07:06,224 Okay, now, this is ward f. 174 00:07:06,226 --> 00:07:10,295 It was originally designed to have seven seclusion rooms. 175 00:07:10,297 --> 00:07:14,332 So this would have been for the most violent male patients 176 00:07:14,334 --> 00:07:16,234 Here at the facility. 177 00:07:16,236 --> 00:07:20,505 And I want to tell you about a murder that happened as well. 178 00:07:20,507 --> 00:07:22,474 If you check out these doors... 179 00:07:22,476 --> 00:07:24,743 I mean, these are heavy steel doors. 180 00:07:24,745 --> 00:07:25,911 Jack: Yeah. 181 00:07:25,913 --> 00:07:27,212 And if you look at the inside, 182 00:07:27,214 --> 00:07:29,514 You can see the damage that the patients would do. 183 00:07:29,516 --> 00:07:30,782 Katrina: Wow. 184 00:07:30,784 --> 00:07:34,586 The sheer power of someone who is mentally ill... 185 00:07:34,588 --> 00:07:38,657 Yeah. ...And obviously upset about something is amazing. 186 00:07:38,659 --> 00:07:46,965 ♪♪ 187 00:07:46,967 --> 00:07:49,067 This, we call the bedpost murder room. 188 00:07:49,069 --> 00:07:52,971 We had two violent patients in here with a person 189 00:07:52,973 --> 00:07:54,940 Who was mentally impaired. And, you know, 190 00:07:54,942 --> 00:07:57,876 He was known to be one of the sweetest patients out there, 191 00:07:57,878 --> 00:08:00,345 But every now and then, he would have an outburst, 192 00:08:00,347 --> 00:08:02,714 And that's how he ended up getting into this room. 193 00:08:02,716 --> 00:08:05,851 Now, the other two patients were not nice people. 194 00:08:05,853 --> 00:08:07,786 [ chuckles ] put it that way. 195 00:08:07,788 --> 00:08:10,522 So, basically, they tied a sheet around his neck, 196 00:08:10,524 --> 00:08:12,891 Threw it up around a pipe, 197 00:08:12,893 --> 00:08:15,227 And would basically raise him up in the air 198 00:08:15,229 --> 00:08:18,196 Until he would pass out, then would let him back down, 199 00:08:18,198 --> 00:08:19,931 Raise him back up again until he passed out. 200 00:08:19,933 --> 00:08:21,366 Well, eventually, they realized they were gonna 201 00:08:21,368 --> 00:08:22,767 Get into a lot of trouble. 202 00:08:22,769 --> 00:08:24,236 They laid this guy down on the floor. 203 00:08:24,238 --> 00:08:25,570 They had a steel bed in here. 204 00:08:25,572 --> 00:08:27,239 Put the bedpost on his head, 205 00:08:27,241 --> 00:08:29,341 And as one held him there, the other one jumped on the bed 206 00:08:29,343 --> 00:08:31,042 Until it pierced his skull and brain. 207 00:08:31,044 --> 00:08:32,511 Ohh. 208 00:08:32,513 --> 00:08:34,212 -That is horrific. -So messed up. 209 00:08:34,214 --> 00:08:35,614 That is horrific. 210 00:08:35,616 --> 00:08:37,315 When I was told about him, 211 00:08:37,317 --> 00:08:39,451 And this is what broke my heart when I heard the story, 212 00:08:39,453 --> 00:08:41,620 Was that he spent the whole day coloring 213 00:08:41,622 --> 00:08:43,622 At the feet of, like, a nurse. 214 00:08:43,624 --> 00:08:45,090 -Oh, yeah. -Like, that was his mind. 215 00:08:45,092 --> 00:08:46,791 It was so childlike and innocent. 216 00:08:46,793 --> 00:08:47,959 When did that happen, the murder? 217 00:08:47,961 --> 00:08:49,895 Do you know? -That was in the '80s. 218 00:08:49,897 --> 00:08:51,496 -In the '80s? -Jack: Oh, wow. 219 00:08:51,498 --> 00:08:54,766 One of the men who killed him actually recently passed. 220 00:08:54,768 --> 00:08:58,703 Recently, there has been a black figure 221 00:08:58,705 --> 00:09:01,406 Outside of this ward 222 00:09:01,408 --> 00:09:04,743 That goes in between the door of this ward 223 00:09:04,745 --> 00:09:07,712 To where the guests would actually visit, 224 00:09:07,714 --> 00:09:10,448 And that's been happening so much recently. 225 00:09:10,450 --> 00:09:11,917 ♪♪ 226 00:09:21,628 --> 00:09:24,296 Recently, there has been a black figure 227 00:09:24,298 --> 00:09:26,965 Outside of this ward 228 00:09:26,967 --> 00:09:30,302 That goes in between the door of this ward 229 00:09:30,304 --> 00:09:33,305 To where the guests would actually visit, 230 00:09:33,307 --> 00:09:36,508 And that's been happening so much recently. 231 00:09:36,510 --> 00:09:38,109 When did it start to increase? 232 00:09:38,111 --> 00:09:41,313 About two years ago, when that man died. Oh. 233 00:09:41,315 --> 00:09:43,348 -Oh, when he died. -Rebecca: Yeah. 234 00:09:43,350 --> 00:09:47,385 But I'm curious if that could be him 235 00:09:47,387 --> 00:09:48,820 Coming back here. 236 00:09:48,822 --> 00:09:51,022 -One of the murderers? -Yeah. 237 00:09:52,259 --> 00:09:55,160 Jack: If that shadow is, in fact, the spirit 238 00:09:55,162 --> 00:09:58,763 Of one of the murderers and has come back here, 239 00:09:58,765 --> 00:10:00,332 That would imply some kind of portal. 240 00:10:00,334 --> 00:10:02,801 ♪♪ 241 00:10:02,803 --> 00:10:04,302 Rebecca: When I take you guys to the fourth floor, 242 00:10:04,304 --> 00:10:05,470 You're gonna feel it. 243 00:10:05,472 --> 00:10:14,846 ♪♪ 244 00:10:14,848 --> 00:10:16,014 Katrina: I think this is 245 00:10:16,016 --> 00:10:17,382 The most uncomfortable spot for me. 246 00:10:17,384 --> 00:10:22,053 Well, this is basically the most active area we have, 247 00:10:22,055 --> 00:10:25,991 This ward specifically and the fourth floor completely. 248 00:10:25,993 --> 00:10:28,059 -Katrina: Yeah. -We get a lot of touching... 249 00:10:28,061 --> 00:10:29,694 -Mm. -...In this area. 250 00:10:29,696 --> 00:10:31,596 We've had a few occasions 251 00:10:31,598 --> 00:10:33,198 Of some people getting scratched. 252 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,066 Actually, this is -- I'd love to get valarie up here 253 00:10:35,068 --> 00:10:37,335 To tell you some of her experiences. 254 00:10:37,337 --> 00:10:38,903 Okay. Let's get her up here. 255 00:10:38,905 --> 00:10:42,240 ♪♪ 256 00:10:42,242 --> 00:10:43,642 -Rebecca: Oh, valarie. -Hello. 257 00:10:43,644 --> 00:10:44,909 -Katrina: Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you, katrina. 258 00:10:44,911 --> 00:10:46,111 -Hey. How's it going? Jack. -Nice to meet you, jack. 259 00:10:46,113 --> 00:10:49,681 Yeah, rebecca tells us that this was an area 260 00:10:49,683 --> 00:10:51,950 Where you had pretty crazy experiences. 261 00:10:51,952 --> 00:10:53,752 Yeah. Absolutely. 262 00:10:53,754 --> 00:10:56,021 I was sitting up here with a group of people. 263 00:10:56,023 --> 00:11:00,091 Little bit later, I noticed that my back was burning. 264 00:11:00,093 --> 00:11:03,028 There was an abrasion little bit right of my spine. 265 00:11:03,030 --> 00:11:06,398 Was approximately an inch wide, maybe 3 to 4 inches long. 266 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,867 -Oh, wow. -It burned really bad, 267 00:11:08,869 --> 00:11:13,338 And it was visible for at least four days following the event. 268 00:11:13,340 --> 00:11:14,572 Katrina: It looks like almost like 269 00:11:14,574 --> 00:11:15,774 You fell off a bike or something. 270 00:11:15,776 --> 00:11:17,609 Valarie: Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. 271 00:11:17,611 --> 00:11:20,178 The next night, after that had happened, 272 00:11:20,180 --> 00:11:23,014 I was sitting up here again, roughly same time of night. 273 00:11:23,016 --> 00:11:24,683 It was then that I noticed 274 00:11:24,685 --> 00:11:27,385 This same kind of intense burning on my arm. 275 00:11:27,387 --> 00:11:29,688 So I shifted the flashlight to my arm, 276 00:11:29,690 --> 00:11:31,389 And the guide, myself, 277 00:11:31,391 --> 00:11:35,026 We watched three welts develop down my arm. 278 00:11:35,028 --> 00:11:36,561 What do you think caused it? 279 00:11:36,563 --> 00:11:40,298 A part of me wants to say that I was overstaying my welcome. 280 00:11:40,300 --> 00:11:41,766 Jack and katrina: Mm. 281 00:11:41,768 --> 00:11:43,535 There's something nasty up here. 282 00:11:43,537 --> 00:11:45,704 Either it's dormant or goes elsewhere, 283 00:11:45,706 --> 00:11:47,772 But every once in a while, 284 00:11:47,774 --> 00:11:50,275 There's something up here that doesn't want us here, yeah. 285 00:11:50,277 --> 00:11:51,876 Comes through, yeah. 286 00:11:51,878 --> 00:11:54,913 ♪♪ 287 00:11:54,915 --> 00:11:57,816 What's the most active place for you? 288 00:11:57,818 --> 00:11:59,184 We're standing in it. 289 00:11:59,186 --> 00:12:05,023 I've witnessed this strange, blobby-looking thing. 290 00:12:05,025 --> 00:12:07,625 We could see its shadow up on the ceiling, 291 00:12:07,627 --> 00:12:11,196 And I saw what I can only describe 292 00:12:11,198 --> 00:12:12,964 As something that looked like a tentacle, 293 00:12:12,966 --> 00:12:17,202 And similar things have been seen throughout the building. 294 00:12:17,204 --> 00:12:21,606 Predominantly, though, it likes to hang out on the fourth floor. 295 00:12:21,608 --> 00:12:22,941 Hmm. 296 00:12:22,943 --> 00:12:25,510 ♪♪ 297 00:12:25,512 --> 00:12:28,379 Katrina: We learned a lot of different things from valarie, I think. 298 00:12:28,381 --> 00:12:31,149 She believes that whatever's here is negative. 299 00:12:31,151 --> 00:12:33,585 So she believes that this creepy-crawly thing 300 00:12:33,587 --> 00:12:36,221 That multiple people have experienced 301 00:12:36,223 --> 00:12:37,589 Could be the negative thing. 302 00:12:37,591 --> 00:12:41,993 ♪♪ 303 00:12:41,995 --> 00:12:43,428 It's a lot. Are you okay? 304 00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:45,497 I just know that, you know, soon as this place gets dark, 305 00:12:45,499 --> 00:12:47,599 It's gonna be like, "what the [bleep]?" 306 00:12:47,601 --> 00:12:48,767 Yeah. 307 00:12:48,769 --> 00:12:55,340 ♪♪ 308 00:12:55,342 --> 00:13:01,980 ♪♪ 309 00:13:01,982 --> 00:13:04,983 -So we have interesting news. -Jack: Drop it on me. 310 00:13:04,985 --> 00:13:07,218 Our wonderful associate producer, hannah... 311 00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:09,954 -Mm-hmm? -...She did some digging for us, 312 00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:13,525 And did find an article that you might find interesting. 313 00:13:13,527 --> 00:13:15,393 "a lewis county judge has ordered 314 00:13:15,395 --> 00:13:17,195 "two severely ill mental patients 315 00:13:17,197 --> 00:13:20,031 "accused of murdering another patient at weston hospital 316 00:13:20,033 --> 00:13:23,434 To undergo competency tests." 317 00:13:23,436 --> 00:13:26,371 David mason, 25. 318 00:13:26,373 --> 00:13:29,240 James woods, 30. 319 00:13:29,242 --> 00:13:33,144 They were accused of killing dean metheny. 320 00:13:33,146 --> 00:13:35,280 Let's write that name down real quick. 321 00:13:35,282 --> 00:13:36,714 Bedpost murder. 322 00:13:36,716 --> 00:13:39,851 Well, we have the names of the murderers now 323 00:13:39,853 --> 00:13:41,519 And we have the name of the victim. 324 00:13:41,521 --> 00:13:44,589 We're kind of the first investigative team to have them 325 00:13:44,591 --> 00:13:46,090 And be able to put them out there. 326 00:13:46,092 --> 00:13:47,458 Katrina: This is all-new information 327 00:13:47,460 --> 00:13:49,260 That we're able to confirm with historic documentation. 328 00:13:49,262 --> 00:13:50,628 So it's all pretty important 329 00:13:50,630 --> 00:13:52,964 Because during the course of the investigation, 330 00:13:52,966 --> 00:13:55,366 If we get anything that matches the names 331 00:13:55,368 --> 00:14:00,338 Or even subjective experiences as to how the victim died, 332 00:14:00,340 --> 00:14:02,440 Then it could kind of corroborate all of that stuff 333 00:14:02,442 --> 00:14:03,708 That's been going on up there. 334 00:14:03,710 --> 00:14:05,810 We got some severe ground to cover here. 335 00:14:05,812 --> 00:14:07,178 [ sighs ] we do, indeed. 336 00:14:07,180 --> 00:14:08,346 Alright, think warm thoughts. Let's get cracking. 337 00:14:08,348 --> 00:14:09,480 Okay. Ready? 338 00:14:09,482 --> 00:14:10,648 [ thunder rumbles ] 339 00:14:10,650 --> 00:14:13,484 [ clock ticking ] 340 00:14:13,486 --> 00:14:15,153 So we have something really cool 341 00:14:15,155 --> 00:14:17,055 That we can use for our investigation tonight. 342 00:14:17,057 --> 00:14:20,425 This is a piece of artwork done by one of the patients. 343 00:14:20,427 --> 00:14:23,228 So you can see the back of it, too. 344 00:14:23,230 --> 00:14:25,697 "well," "power," "man of the year," 345 00:14:25,699 --> 00:14:28,733 "healthy," "better," "enjoy." 346 00:14:28,735 --> 00:14:31,970 So it was actually made by one of the murderers 347 00:14:31,972 --> 00:14:33,438 From the bedpost murders. -Ohh! 348 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,341 We can use this as, like, a trigger object. 349 00:14:46,453 --> 00:14:48,386 This is a piece of artwork done by one of the patients. 350 00:14:48,388 --> 00:14:50,855 So you can see the back of it, too. 351 00:14:50,857 --> 00:14:54,125 So it was actually made by one of the murderers 352 00:14:54,127 --> 00:14:55,593 From the bedpost murders. -Ohh! 353 00:14:55,595 --> 00:14:58,329 We can use this as, like, a trigger object in the room 354 00:14:58,331 --> 00:15:00,331 Where the murder happened. -Okay. 355 00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:03,601 Because rebecca's big question is, you know, 356 00:15:03,603 --> 00:15:05,136 Is this guy still here? 357 00:15:05,138 --> 00:15:07,138 But we can put it in the room, and if he is here, 358 00:15:07,140 --> 00:15:09,874 It might enact some sort of response. Yeah. 359 00:15:09,876 --> 00:15:15,446 ♪♪ 360 00:15:15,448 --> 00:15:16,681 Jack: We've decided to bring 361 00:15:16,683 --> 00:15:18,349 A psychic medium, michelle belanger, 362 00:15:18,351 --> 00:15:20,885 To jump-start our investigation. 363 00:15:20,887 --> 00:15:22,520 Michelle is our psychic bloodhound. 364 00:15:22,522 --> 00:15:24,022 So she doesn't know where she's coming. 365 00:15:24,024 --> 00:15:25,757 She's gonna turn up blindfolded. 366 00:15:25,759 --> 00:15:30,228 Since a lot of my perceptions are with an inner eye, 367 00:15:30,230 --> 00:15:33,598 Then taking away the distraction of physical sight 368 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,734 Helps me focus on what I'm tuning into 369 00:15:36,736 --> 00:15:39,370 Beyond that perception. 370 00:15:39,372 --> 00:15:41,139 Jack: We got a ton of work. 371 00:15:41,141 --> 00:15:43,374 Probably have about a mile of cables to run. 372 00:15:43,376 --> 00:15:46,210 So, uh, we gotta get to it. 373 00:15:46,212 --> 00:15:56,087 ♪♪ 374 00:15:56,089 --> 00:15:59,757 I'm always curious to see 375 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:04,128 What story a place is willing to tell me. 376 00:16:04,130 --> 00:16:06,064 Jack: It's easy to get turned around in this place at night. 377 00:16:06,066 --> 00:16:09,400 ♪♪ 378 00:16:09,402 --> 00:16:11,302 They're flashing right now. Can you see 'em? 379 00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:13,204 Katrina: I can, yeah, and it -- yeah, that's actually great. 380 00:16:13,206 --> 00:16:18,776 ♪♪ 381 00:16:18,778 --> 00:16:19,944 Here we go. 382 00:16:19,946 --> 00:16:21,145 Camera 1 is where 383 00:16:21,147 --> 00:16:23,214 Valarie allegedly was attacked. 384 00:16:23,216 --> 00:16:26,617 Camera 2 is in ward r. 385 00:16:26,619 --> 00:16:30,021 The bedpost hallway outside the bedpost murder room. 386 00:16:30,023 --> 00:16:33,191 And camera 4 is the bedpost murder room. 387 00:16:33,193 --> 00:16:35,360 Okay. Can you guys get michelle? 388 00:16:35,362 --> 00:16:36,661 Bring her up. 389 00:16:36,663 --> 00:16:39,163 Be very careful with her because she's blindfolded. 390 00:16:39,165 --> 00:16:43,468 ♪♪ 391 00:16:43,470 --> 00:16:46,204 Okay, I'm bringing you into scene with jack and katrina. 392 00:16:46,206 --> 00:16:47,605 Katrina: Hi, michelle! 393 00:16:47,607 --> 00:16:49,807 How's your experience been since you arrived? 394 00:16:49,809 --> 00:16:51,275 -Interesting. -Jack: Yeah? 395 00:16:51,277 --> 00:16:55,613 Uh, pretty clear image of, like, this brooding stone edifice 396 00:16:55,615 --> 00:16:58,182 Just beyond a-a gate. -Okay. 397 00:16:58,184 --> 00:17:00,284 The owner has asked us some pretty... 398 00:17:00,286 --> 00:17:03,421 Well, specific questions about who or what is here. 399 00:17:03,423 --> 00:17:06,124 So we're gonna take you to certain places. 400 00:17:06,126 --> 00:17:07,825 Does that sound okay? -That -- that sounds good. 401 00:17:07,827 --> 00:17:08,993 Okay. All right, great. 402 00:17:08,995 --> 00:17:10,028 -Jack: Shall we? -Katrina: We shall. 403 00:17:10,030 --> 00:17:19,604 ♪♪ 404 00:17:19,606 --> 00:17:23,408 We know there was a woman here who committed suicide. 405 00:17:23,410 --> 00:17:26,010 The owner needs to know the room. 406 00:17:26,012 --> 00:17:29,213 Rebecca: We believe it's one of these right here. 407 00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:31,282 We're on the right floor. 408 00:17:31,284 --> 00:17:35,253 So this is where she did it? At least, the floor? 409 00:17:35,255 --> 00:17:37,688 Yeah. We're on the right floor. 410 00:17:37,690 --> 00:17:39,857 I just keep seeing off-green or off-blue, like, 411 00:17:39,859 --> 00:17:42,727 A pale room... 412 00:17:42,729 --> 00:17:45,229 Inviting someone to look into the room. 413 00:17:45,231 --> 00:17:53,004 ♪♪ 414 00:17:53,006 --> 00:17:54,705 I keep wanting to go that way. 415 00:17:54,707 --> 00:17:56,774 Katrina: Okay, there is a room there. Okay. 416 00:17:56,776 --> 00:17:59,377 ♪♪ 417 00:17:59,379 --> 00:18:01,345 Michelle: This one feels right. 418 00:18:01,347 --> 00:18:03,247 This is the woman... 419 00:18:03,249 --> 00:18:06,384 The woman...Who -- 420 00:18:06,386 --> 00:18:09,320 Who did... Who did something. 421 00:18:09,322 --> 00:18:11,255 And you see the room being a... 422 00:18:11,257 --> 00:18:12,657 Somewhere between blue or green. 423 00:18:12,659 --> 00:18:15,293 ♪♪ 424 00:18:15,295 --> 00:18:17,428 It's really quite ugly paint. 425 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:19,931 She doesn't want to tell me her name. 426 00:18:19,933 --> 00:18:24,202 ♪♪ 427 00:18:24,204 --> 00:18:25,837 Yeah, she doesn't want to tell me her name. 428 00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:28,773 ♪♪ 429 00:18:28,775 --> 00:18:30,108 Katrina: It is pretty impressive, 430 00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:31,442 Especially for somebody that can't -- 431 00:18:31,444 --> 00:18:32,910 I mean, she can't see anything. 432 00:18:32,912 --> 00:18:34,879 So for her to pick up on a wall color, 433 00:18:34,881 --> 00:18:36,948 Obviously, she's connecting to somebody. 434 00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:39,617 So, we're going to take her to the third floor 435 00:18:39,619 --> 00:18:43,187 To one of the rooms there that had a pretty significant event, 436 00:18:43,189 --> 00:18:44,989 And we're gonna see what she can pick up there. 437 00:18:44,991 --> 00:18:49,560 ♪♪ 438 00:18:49,562 --> 00:18:51,529 Michelle: There's a presence up here 439 00:18:51,531 --> 00:18:54,899 That feels timid at first. 440 00:18:54,901 --> 00:18:57,502 ♪♪ 441 00:18:57,504 --> 00:19:00,905 We had two violent patients in here 442 00:19:00,907 --> 00:19:03,007 With a person who was mentally impaired. 443 00:19:03,009 --> 00:19:07,478 ♪♪ 444 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,514 Do you want to talk with me? 445 00:19:09,516 --> 00:19:12,984 ♪♪ 446 00:19:12,986 --> 00:19:15,720 Are you... 447 00:19:15,722 --> 00:19:19,056 Are you a boy, or are you just wearing that shape? 448 00:19:19,058 --> 00:19:20,725 How old are you? 449 00:19:20,727 --> 00:19:22,994 Not sure what's going on with this one. 450 00:19:22,996 --> 00:19:24,128 Katrina: Is he intelligent? 451 00:19:24,130 --> 00:19:25,730 That's an intelligent spirit, active? 452 00:19:25,732 --> 00:19:27,465 I-I think so. 453 00:19:29,435 --> 00:19:32,703 Timid, though, not chatty. 454 00:19:32,705 --> 00:19:34,138 Almost mute. 455 00:19:34,140 --> 00:19:35,806 Like, could be violent. 456 00:19:35,808 --> 00:19:40,144 I don't know if he's, like... 457 00:19:40,146 --> 00:19:41,445 Can't use his legs 458 00:19:41,447 --> 00:19:43,748 Or if he just likes crawling around on the floor. 459 00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:46,350 ♪♪ 460 00:19:46,352 --> 00:19:50,721 I'm going to move a little bit this way to see. 461 00:19:50,723 --> 00:19:57,128 ♪♪ 462 00:19:57,130 --> 00:20:00,498 There's a weird pressure from... 463 00:20:03,036 --> 00:20:04,702 So it's, like, a sense of something hanging. 464 00:20:04,704 --> 00:20:08,039 ♪♪ 465 00:20:08,041 --> 00:20:10,908 They tied a sheet around his neck, threw it up around a pipe, 466 00:20:10,910 --> 00:20:13,244 And would basically raise him up in the air 467 00:20:13,246 --> 00:20:16,113 Until he would pass out, then would let him back down, 468 00:20:16,115 --> 00:20:17,848 Raise him back up again until he passed out. 469 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,752 It's just something hanging. 470 00:20:24,524 --> 00:20:26,691 I don't think it goes all the way down to the floor. 471 00:20:26,693 --> 00:20:30,228 ♪♪ 472 00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:33,664 Took a wild stab at it, I'd say it's about body-shaped. 473 00:20:33,666 --> 00:20:35,733 There's -- there's an intelligent haunting here. 474 00:20:35,735 --> 00:20:37,635 Like, this one seems nonverbal. 475 00:20:37,637 --> 00:20:42,607 And I just keep seeing him on the floor, like, looking up. 476 00:20:42,609 --> 00:20:44,642 Like, he's -- he's from a prone position. 477 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,248 So, there was a brutal murder in here. 478 00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:51,716 Okay. 479 00:20:51,718 --> 00:20:55,253 And the victim was a... 480 00:20:55,255 --> 00:20:58,723 A man who was allegedly -- 481 00:20:58,725 --> 00:21:02,593 You know, we heard rumors that he was actually a mute. 482 00:21:02,595 --> 00:21:06,297 And two men, uh, 483 00:21:06,299 --> 00:21:09,100 Murdered him in here by, um, 484 00:21:09,102 --> 00:21:11,702 They would kind of string him up 485 00:21:11,704 --> 00:21:14,238 And, like, lynch him and then lower him down... 486 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,107 -[bleep] -...And then string him up... 487 00:21:16,109 --> 00:21:18,209 [bleep]! ...And down, and they did that repeatedly. 488 00:21:18,211 --> 00:21:19,543 [bleep]. 489 00:21:19,545 --> 00:21:20,711 [ shivers ] 490 00:21:30,823 --> 00:21:32,290 So, there was a brutal murder in here. 491 00:21:32,292 --> 00:21:35,459 [bleep]. Okay. 492 00:21:35,461 --> 00:21:38,496 -Jack: They ended up...Yep. -Okay. 493 00:21:38,498 --> 00:21:41,799 And they ended up taking their bed 494 00:21:41,801 --> 00:21:44,035 And putting the bedpost on his head 495 00:21:44,037 --> 00:21:46,737 And jumping on it until it crushed his skull. 496 00:21:48,041 --> 00:21:50,474 Wow. 497 00:21:50,476 --> 00:21:54,278 Well, it's safe to say, that's still very much here. 498 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,646 [ shivers ] 499 00:21:55,648 --> 00:21:59,550 Yeah, and he's still an intelligent spirit then here? 500 00:21:59,552 --> 00:22:01,852 He's still here. 501 00:22:01,854 --> 00:22:03,387 Just so you know, this was in the '80s, 502 00:22:03,389 --> 00:22:05,389 So it was not that long ago. -[ shivers ] 503 00:22:05,391 --> 00:22:06,557 Katrina: Here's the other thing, too. 504 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:09,226 You describe him as being very childlike, 505 00:22:09,228 --> 00:22:12,930 So the crawling, the hiding, all that stuff. 506 00:22:12,932 --> 00:22:15,366 Michelle: Yep. He was a very nice guy, but occasionally, 507 00:22:15,368 --> 00:22:17,401 He would have these really violent outbursts. 508 00:22:19,305 --> 00:22:22,840 Yep, okay. No, he's definitely still here. 509 00:22:22,842 --> 00:22:26,877 A question that we have is recently, 510 00:22:26,879 --> 00:22:29,947 One of his murderers has passed away, 511 00:22:29,949 --> 00:22:33,517 And since that passing, the owner wants to know 512 00:22:33,519 --> 00:22:36,620 If any of the murderers are here. 513 00:22:36,622 --> 00:22:38,989 No, but they came by once, 514 00:22:38,991 --> 00:22:41,425 And he's not over it. 515 00:22:41,427 --> 00:22:47,131 It's almost like he keeps going through it, 516 00:22:47,133 --> 00:22:49,033 Like it triggered something. 517 00:22:49,035 --> 00:22:51,102 So this replay of what had happened to him, 518 00:22:51,104 --> 00:22:55,573 But he's still here, partly engaged in that replay. 519 00:22:55,575 --> 00:22:58,409 Is there anything that he likes, 520 00:22:58,411 --> 00:23:00,044 That we could maybe bring up here? 521 00:23:00,046 --> 00:23:02,980 Did he like to color? Did he like to draw? 522 00:23:02,982 --> 00:23:05,149 I'd try, like, rolling a ball to him. 523 00:23:05,151 --> 00:23:06,317 Jack: Okay. 524 00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:10,087 He seems pretty simple with -- with his tastes. 525 00:23:10,089 --> 00:23:11,722 Do you think he would respond to his name? 526 00:23:11,724 --> 00:23:14,592 ♪♪ 527 00:23:14,594 --> 00:23:15,760 Yeah, he might. 528 00:23:15,762 --> 00:23:17,928 Well, we should continue -- continue on. 529 00:23:17,930 --> 00:23:25,569 ♪♪ 530 00:23:25,571 --> 00:23:27,171 Jack: We're headed to the fourth floor, 531 00:23:27,173 --> 00:23:29,106 And this is where valarie, the tour guide, 532 00:23:29,108 --> 00:23:31,575 Was allegedly attacked. 533 00:23:31,577 --> 00:23:33,978 It seems like everyone says "the fourth floor" 534 00:23:33,980 --> 00:23:35,813 Or "beware, beware the fourth floor." 535 00:23:35,815 --> 00:23:38,716 It seems to be the most active and the most aggressive. 536 00:23:38,718 --> 00:23:43,421 There's something that feels forceful here. 537 00:23:43,423 --> 00:23:45,089 As an intelligent force, michelle? 538 00:23:45,091 --> 00:23:48,592 Is it human? Non-human? 539 00:23:48,594 --> 00:23:50,628 It's reacting to me, so I say intelligent. 540 00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:54,432 ♪♪ 541 00:23:54,434 --> 00:23:57,935 There's a physical imposingness 542 00:23:57,937 --> 00:24:00,838 That is part of that assertiveness. 543 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:06,277 If it thinks you should know that it's here... 544 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:09,146 First, it will see you and it will get closer... 545 00:24:11,617 --> 00:24:13,350 ...If you don't pay attention to it. 546 00:24:13,352 --> 00:24:20,157 ♪♪ 547 00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:24,228 I think it will start to be... 548 00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:27,064 Physically, 549 00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:28,866 In the sense of putting hands on you, 550 00:24:28,868 --> 00:24:31,001 Possibly a heaviness, that heaviness. 551 00:24:31,003 --> 00:24:33,704 ♪♪ 552 00:24:33,706 --> 00:24:35,873 [ sighs deeply ] 553 00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:38,509 Safe to take this off? 554 00:24:38,511 --> 00:24:39,677 Katrina: It's safe to take it off. 555 00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:41,111 Okay. Ugh. 556 00:24:42,582 --> 00:24:45,049 [ groans ] 557 00:24:45,051 --> 00:24:46,150 [ katrina laughs ] 558 00:24:46,152 --> 00:24:48,118 The other thing I'd say about this floor 559 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,621 Is it feels like... 560 00:24:50,623 --> 00:24:51,922 People have come up here 561 00:24:51,924 --> 00:24:54,191 With the intent of scaring themselves. 562 00:24:54,193 --> 00:24:57,361 Katrina: So is that why activity would increase up here? 563 00:24:57,363 --> 00:24:58,696 Michelle: Yeah, I mean, like attracts like. 564 00:24:58,698 --> 00:25:00,965 Stuff is intelligent enough here 565 00:25:00,967 --> 00:25:03,767 To react to people's expectations 566 00:25:03,769 --> 00:25:05,035 And to try to get a rise out of them. 567 00:25:05,037 --> 00:25:07,505 Purposely scaring people? -Yeah. Oh, hell, yeah. 568 00:25:07,507 --> 00:25:11,375 ♪♪ 569 00:25:11,377 --> 00:25:13,577 Katrina: Michelle, as always, thanks so much for coming. 570 00:25:13,579 --> 00:25:14,912 There was really some stuff that you nailed 571 00:25:14,914 --> 00:25:16,714 That I think will help our investigation for tonight. 572 00:25:16,716 --> 00:25:18,249 Michelle and jack: Yeah. 573 00:25:18,251 --> 00:25:23,387 ♪♪ 574 00:25:23,389 --> 00:25:24,688 -I think we're all set up. -Jack: Okay. 575 00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:26,423 And there's so much ground to cover, 576 00:25:26,425 --> 00:25:29,960 So probably what makes the most sense is for us to split up. 577 00:25:29,962 --> 00:25:32,830 For me personally, I need to go back to ward r. 578 00:25:32,832 --> 00:25:34,832 If you want to take ward t? -Sure. 579 00:25:34,834 --> 00:25:37,735 We have the 3-d mapping camera, 580 00:25:37,737 --> 00:25:40,004 So if there's any figures that have any mass, 581 00:25:40,006 --> 00:25:41,805 That should show up on that. -Okay. 582 00:25:41,807 --> 00:25:45,409 And we also have itc devices that pick up on voices. 583 00:25:45,411 --> 00:25:48,345 We have the laser grid set up in the bedpost hallway 584 00:25:48,347 --> 00:25:50,714 To pick up any figures moving around. 585 00:25:50,716 --> 00:25:54,151 And then we also have recorders for evps. Okay. Alright. 586 00:25:54,153 --> 00:25:56,654 ♪♪ 587 00:25:56,656 --> 00:25:57,855 Hey, you ready? 588 00:25:57,857 --> 00:26:00,991 ♪♪ 589 00:26:00,993 --> 00:26:03,527 Jack: Am I that way? -Katrina: You're that way. 590 00:26:03,529 --> 00:26:05,195 I'm this way. -Alright, cool. 591 00:26:05,197 --> 00:26:06,363 -Okay. -Alrighty. 592 00:26:06,365 --> 00:26:08,699 -Alright, good luck. -See ya. 593 00:26:08,701 --> 00:26:10,334 Jack: The fourth floor is where a lot 594 00:26:10,336 --> 00:26:13,103 Of the activity occurs in this building. 595 00:26:13,105 --> 00:26:15,639 There are dozens of reports of people hearing footsteps, 596 00:26:15,641 --> 00:26:18,642 People seeing black shadows walking at the end of hallways. 597 00:26:18,644 --> 00:26:21,679 It's where michelle definitely picked up 598 00:26:21,681 --> 00:26:23,948 On some kind of dark presence. 599 00:26:23,950 --> 00:26:27,751 And it's where valarie was allegedly scratched. 600 00:26:27,753 --> 00:26:30,154 Katrina: I know you're up here. 601 00:26:30,156 --> 00:26:32,089 You gonna slam one of these? 602 00:26:32,091 --> 00:26:33,724 [ door slams ] 603 00:26:33,726 --> 00:26:36,527 ♪♪ 604 00:26:36,529 --> 00:26:38,495 Can you show us that you're here? 605 00:26:43,436 --> 00:26:44,602 You knock on something for me? 606 00:26:44,604 --> 00:26:46,370 [ knocks on door ] 607 00:26:50,176 --> 00:26:52,276 I almost feel like we're being observed. 608 00:26:54,313 --> 00:26:56,880 I want to know who you are. I want to know what you are. 609 00:27:00,152 --> 00:27:02,152 I want to see if we can get some answers. 610 00:27:07,293 --> 00:27:10,027 Yeah. 611 00:27:10,029 --> 00:27:12,463 I heard, like, voices. 612 00:27:12,465 --> 00:27:14,098 Is that what you heard? 613 00:27:15,234 --> 00:27:17,601 [ radio interference ] 614 00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:22,172 Katrina: Well, let's try an itc session. 615 00:27:24,377 --> 00:27:26,010 Oh, no. 616 00:27:28,714 --> 00:27:31,281 No. I think it died. 617 00:27:33,853 --> 00:27:35,619 There it goes. It -- it just died. 618 00:27:37,657 --> 00:27:40,391 "database is corrupt. It can't be trusted. 619 00:27:40,393 --> 00:27:43,027 It may not work properly." 620 00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:44,361 What? 621 00:27:44,363 --> 00:27:46,430 What the [bleep]? 622 00:27:55,041 --> 00:27:57,241 Why's it keep wanting to initialize? 623 00:27:57,243 --> 00:28:02,279 ♪♪ 624 00:28:02,281 --> 00:28:04,181 Jack: Alright, so we're having technical difficulties 625 00:28:04,183 --> 00:28:06,550 Already up here. 626 00:28:06,552 --> 00:28:07,918 Elaine, can you hear me? 627 00:28:10,056 --> 00:28:11,889 Can you send lauren up here to 628 00:28:11,891 --> 00:28:14,525 Fix this kinect 3-d mapping thing. It's not working. 629 00:28:15,795 --> 00:28:17,294 Elaine: Yeah, copy. Coming at ya. 630 00:28:20,433 --> 00:28:23,267 He is. Right now? 631 00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:29,840 ♪♪ 632 00:28:32,478 --> 00:28:35,145 Jack: Okay, yeah. Yeah, we're gonna have to scratch it. 633 00:28:35,147 --> 00:28:37,948 My 3-d mapper went down. 634 00:28:37,950 --> 00:28:39,216 Brand-new. 635 00:28:39,218 --> 00:28:41,151 No reason for that thing to be acting up. 636 00:28:41,153 --> 00:28:45,389 ♪♪ 637 00:28:45,391 --> 00:28:47,024 Katrina? -Yeah? 638 00:28:47,026 --> 00:28:49,359 Jack: Coming in. How's it been going for you? 639 00:28:49,361 --> 00:28:51,628 Like, none of my equipment's working. [ laughs ] 640 00:28:51,630 --> 00:28:52,830 Really? 641 00:28:52,832 --> 00:28:54,665 Well...No, I'm just having some tech issues. 642 00:28:54,667 --> 00:28:58,168 Yeah, my 3-d mapper 643 00:28:58,170 --> 00:28:59,703 [bleep] out on me. 644 00:28:59,705 --> 00:29:00,871 -Did it really? -Yeah. 645 00:29:00,873 --> 00:29:02,773 Just didn't -- kept just close -- like, every time 646 00:29:02,775 --> 00:29:05,776 We would try and boot up the program, it would shut down. 647 00:29:05,778 --> 00:29:09,079 So in my experience, when batteries start dying like that, 648 00:29:09,081 --> 00:29:11,348 Equipment just gets messed up like that, 649 00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:14,151 It's, like, whatever is there is kind of gearing up 650 00:29:14,153 --> 00:29:15,486 To manifest somehow. 651 00:29:15,488 --> 00:29:19,456 ♪♪ 652 00:29:19,458 --> 00:29:22,226 Okay, let's get this going again. 653 00:29:22,228 --> 00:29:25,496 Let's start in, um, the bedpost murder room 654 00:29:25,498 --> 00:29:27,197 Because that was definitely the place 655 00:29:27,199 --> 00:29:29,199 Where michelle had the strongest connection. 656 00:29:29,201 --> 00:29:30,367 Yeah. 657 00:29:30,369 --> 00:29:31,869 And she very much felt that dean is still here. 658 00:29:31,871 --> 00:29:33,403 And we have some trigger objects. 659 00:29:33,405 --> 00:29:34,738 -Yep. -We're gonna bring 660 00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:38,008 A piece of art that was made by one of the murderers, 661 00:29:38,010 --> 00:29:39,376 Kind of throwing a lot different things at it 662 00:29:39,378 --> 00:29:42,045 To see if we can get any kind of interaction. 663 00:29:42,047 --> 00:29:43,480 100% 664 00:29:43,482 --> 00:29:51,188 ♪♪ 665 00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:58,896 ♪♪ 666 00:29:58,898 --> 00:30:01,765 Hi, dean. -Katrina: Okay. 667 00:30:01,767 --> 00:30:03,901 This is dean metheny's room. 668 00:30:03,903 --> 00:30:06,136 A lot of people said he was very, you know, mentally -- 669 00:30:06,138 --> 00:30:07,838 He was very much that of a child. 670 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,373 So I figured why not bring some toys 671 00:30:09,375 --> 00:30:11,408 That might entice him a little bit? 672 00:30:11,410 --> 00:30:13,710 Brought some candy, spread that out on the floor. 673 00:30:13,712 --> 00:30:15,679 We've got the rem pod near it all, 674 00:30:15,681 --> 00:30:18,182 And we're just gonna see if we can actually 675 00:30:18,184 --> 00:30:19,650 Get him to communicate with us. 676 00:30:19,652 --> 00:30:22,686 [ groans, sighs ] 677 00:30:22,688 --> 00:30:24,955 I thought that maybe before we begin, 678 00:30:24,957 --> 00:30:26,857 Maybe you want to just, like, 679 00:30:26,859 --> 00:30:28,559 Sit in some silence for a minute in the room? 680 00:30:28,561 --> 00:30:30,394 Katrina: I think that's a great idea. 681 00:30:30,396 --> 00:30:33,163 ♪♪ 682 00:30:33,165 --> 00:30:36,466 [ device ringing ] 683 00:30:36,468 --> 00:30:38,435 Dean, is that you? 684 00:30:38,437 --> 00:30:41,371 [ device ringing ] 685 00:30:41,373 --> 00:30:43,006 ♪♪ 686 00:30:52,618 --> 00:30:53,951 ♪♪ 687 00:30:53,953 --> 00:30:58,422 [ device ringing ] 688 00:30:58,424 --> 00:31:00,657 Dean, is that you? 689 00:31:00,659 --> 00:31:04,127 [ device ringing ] 690 00:31:04,129 --> 00:31:09,166 Dean, if that's you, we need to know that you're here. 691 00:31:09,168 --> 00:31:11,001 Can you help us figure that out? 692 00:31:11,003 --> 00:31:13,270 ♪♪ 693 00:31:13,272 --> 00:31:16,340 [ device ringing ] 694 00:31:16,342 --> 00:31:17,608 Jack: Light. 695 00:31:17,610 --> 00:31:19,610 [ ringing continues ] 696 00:31:19,612 --> 00:31:26,083 ♪♪ 697 00:31:26,085 --> 00:31:27,384 That's crazy. 698 00:31:29,121 --> 00:31:31,889 That thing's going nuts. -It's going nuts in here. 699 00:31:31,891 --> 00:31:34,825 Something's making the rem pod go off. 700 00:31:34,827 --> 00:31:37,895 The rem pod essentially creates its own emf field, 701 00:31:37,897 --> 00:31:41,732 So anything that breaks that field, it should set it off. 702 00:31:41,734 --> 00:31:45,002 You know what, dean? We can actually play a really fun game. 703 00:31:45,004 --> 00:31:47,738 So jack and I will ask some questions, 704 00:31:47,740 --> 00:31:50,207 And every time the answer is yes, 705 00:31:50,209 --> 00:31:52,376 You make that light up green. 706 00:31:52,378 --> 00:31:55,445 If the answer is no, you don't do anything, okay? 707 00:31:59,685 --> 00:32:01,518 Did you die in this room? 708 00:32:03,656 --> 00:32:04,821 [ beeps ] 709 00:32:04,823 --> 00:32:10,260 ♪♪ 710 00:32:10,262 --> 00:32:11,695 Are you still scared? 711 00:32:11,697 --> 00:32:15,032 ♪♪ 712 00:32:15,034 --> 00:32:16,900 Do you know the people who killed you? 713 00:32:16,902 --> 00:32:22,472 ♪♪ 714 00:32:22,474 --> 00:32:23,807 [ beeping ] 715 00:32:23,809 --> 00:32:26,710 ♪♪ 716 00:32:26,712 --> 00:32:29,279 Do you get to move throughout this whole building? 717 00:32:29,281 --> 00:32:32,049 ♪♪ 718 00:32:32,051 --> 00:32:33,350 [ beeps ] 719 00:32:33,352 --> 00:32:35,886 ♪♪ 720 00:32:35,888 --> 00:32:37,421 It's a fun toy isn't it? 721 00:32:37,423 --> 00:32:39,423 ♪♪ 722 00:32:39,425 --> 00:32:40,991 [ beeps ] 723 00:32:40,993 --> 00:32:44,127 ♪♪ 724 00:32:44,129 --> 00:32:45,362 Do you like us being here, dean, 725 00:32:45,364 --> 00:32:47,597 Having someone to talk to and play with? 726 00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:51,535 ♪♪ 727 00:32:51,537 --> 00:32:55,005 [ beeping ] 728 00:32:55,007 --> 00:32:58,342 Dean, is that you affecting our rem pod? 729 00:32:58,344 --> 00:33:01,611 [ beeping ] 730 00:33:01,613 --> 00:33:03,747 ♪♪ 731 00:33:03,749 --> 00:33:05,549 I'm gonna try something, okay? 732 00:33:05,551 --> 00:33:09,820 ♪♪ 733 00:33:09,822 --> 00:33:11,955 I've never seen anything like this. 734 00:33:11,957 --> 00:33:17,761 ♪♪ 735 00:33:17,763 --> 00:33:19,863 Dean, do you know who this belonged to? 736 00:33:19,865 --> 00:33:22,332 ♪♪ 737 00:33:22,334 --> 00:33:23,900 Do you know who this is? 738 00:33:23,902 --> 00:33:30,874 ♪♪ 739 00:33:30,876 --> 00:33:33,710 Dean, did we scare you? Can you come back? 740 00:33:37,916 --> 00:33:42,486 He's not here. It's just -- it's just a piece of art. 741 00:33:42,488 --> 00:33:44,588 He's not here, so he can't hurt you. 742 00:33:46,792 --> 00:33:50,060 Dean, if we take this away, will you come back and talk to us? 743 00:33:53,098 --> 00:33:56,099 ♪♪ 744 00:33:56,101 --> 00:33:58,068 Okay, I'm gonna take it away, okay? 745 00:33:58,070 --> 00:34:00,037 'cause I think maybe it's upsetting you. 746 00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:08,045 ♪♪ 747 00:34:08,047 --> 00:34:09,746 Okay, we put that away. 748 00:34:09,748 --> 00:34:13,016 So he can't hurt you, okay? [ beeps ] 749 00:34:13,018 --> 00:34:14,751 [ chuckles ] 750 00:34:14,753 --> 00:34:17,754 [ exhales deeply ] 751 00:34:17,756 --> 00:34:20,023 ♪♪ 752 00:34:20,025 --> 00:34:24,027 This is the craziest thing I've ever seen. Hands down. 753 00:34:24,029 --> 00:34:28,265 ♪♪ 754 00:34:28,267 --> 00:34:29,433 What do you think? 755 00:34:29,435 --> 00:34:31,201 I'm just amazed by this. 756 00:34:31,203 --> 00:34:33,804 -Yeah? -I've never... 757 00:34:33,806 --> 00:34:36,139 Not this long, not this consistent. 758 00:34:36,141 --> 00:34:37,307 No? 759 00:34:37,309 --> 00:34:38,508 This -- I can't explain this. 760 00:34:38,510 --> 00:34:39,876 -Me, either. -And, like, 761 00:34:39,878 --> 00:34:42,012 I-I won't be able to know, like, whoever's, like, 762 00:34:42,014 --> 00:34:45,515 You at home watching this, like... 763 00:34:45,517 --> 00:34:47,551 There are no radios on in here right now. 764 00:34:47,553 --> 00:34:50,787 There is no way to remote control this. 765 00:34:50,789 --> 00:34:54,491 Something is physically breaking the electronic magnetic field 766 00:34:54,493 --> 00:34:56,493 That this thing is emitting. 767 00:34:56,495 --> 00:34:59,362 I've never really had that type of interaction 768 00:34:59,364 --> 00:35:01,565 With rem pod before, but I feel bad. 769 00:35:01,567 --> 00:35:03,200 I feel really bad for him. 770 00:35:03,202 --> 00:35:06,436 Jack: That's, to me, the most definitive experience 771 00:35:06,438 --> 00:35:07,771 I've ever had. 772 00:35:07,773 --> 00:35:09,539 I just think that, like... [ beeps ] 773 00:35:09,541 --> 00:35:13,143 -I think he like you, jack. -I think you do, yeah. 774 00:35:13,145 --> 00:35:15,979 Probably part of why spirits stick around is 775 00:35:15,981 --> 00:35:18,181 'cause they felt like they weren't heard 776 00:35:18,183 --> 00:35:21,718 Or recognized or acknowledged in the right way. 777 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:23,086 Maybe a part of me thinks that if they get enough 778 00:35:23,088 --> 00:35:24,221 Of that acknowledgement, 779 00:35:24,223 --> 00:35:26,857 Then they can fulfill and move on. 780 00:35:26,859 --> 00:35:28,024 [ beeps ] 781 00:35:28,026 --> 00:35:29,993 Katrina: "yes." [ chuckles ] 782 00:35:31,263 --> 00:35:34,064 Alright, well, there we go. [ chuckles ] 783 00:35:34,066 --> 00:35:35,232 Dean, I just want to let you know 784 00:35:35,234 --> 00:35:37,801 I'm really sorry what happened to you. 785 00:35:37,803 --> 00:35:39,636 You have a good night, 786 00:35:39,638 --> 00:35:42,973 And, uh, do us a favor and watch our backs. 787 00:35:42,975 --> 00:35:44,808 That was crazy. 788 00:35:44,810 --> 00:35:46,710 Katrina: That was really cool. 789 00:35:46,712 --> 00:35:47,978 Yeah. 790 00:35:47,980 --> 00:35:51,081 ♪♪ 791 00:35:51,083 --> 00:35:52,449 That, to me's crazier than ouija board 792 00:35:52,451 --> 00:35:53,650 Or anything like that. 793 00:35:53,652 --> 00:35:56,419 ♪♪ 794 00:35:56,421 --> 00:36:00,090 Dean, if you can hear me, 795 00:36:00,092 --> 00:36:02,325 I would love it if you could walk back and forth, 796 00:36:02,327 --> 00:36:04,094 If that is you. 797 00:36:04,096 --> 00:36:06,663 If that's the person that everyone keeps seeing, 798 00:36:06,665 --> 00:36:09,299 Walk or crawl back and forth so we can see you on our camera. 799 00:36:09,301 --> 00:36:12,235 [ device beeping ] [ whispers ] what's going on? 800 00:36:17,009 --> 00:36:18,508 Jack: Byron, was that you? 801 00:36:19,578 --> 00:36:21,111 Katrina: What was that? 802 00:36:21,113 --> 00:36:31,721 That was really -- that was on this hall. 803 00:36:32,624 --> 00:36:34,224 Katrina: Dean, I would love it 804 00:36:34,226 --> 00:36:36,860 If you could walk back and forth, if that is you. 805 00:36:36,862 --> 00:36:39,262 [ device beeping ] [ whispers ] it's going off. 806 00:36:43,969 --> 00:36:45,468 Jack: Byron, was that you? 807 00:36:46,638 --> 00:36:48,138 That was on this hall. 808 00:36:49,908 --> 00:36:51,374 Jamie, was that you? 809 00:36:53,946 --> 00:36:55,612 -Katrina: It wasn't jamie? -Jack: No. 810 00:36:55,614 --> 00:36:57,747 Was it this door? 811 00:36:57,749 --> 00:36:59,282 Oh, okay. 812 00:36:59,284 --> 00:37:01,184 I'll tell you exactly what this was. 813 00:37:02,254 --> 00:37:03,453 [ door bangs ] 814 00:37:03,455 --> 00:37:05,121 -Katrina: Yeah. -That's what that was. 815 00:37:07,893 --> 00:37:09,659 Jack: What was that? 816 00:37:11,363 --> 00:37:12,562 -Huh. -I just think 817 00:37:12,564 --> 00:37:13,730 They're really heavy doors. 818 00:37:13,732 --> 00:37:14,898 Yeah, that is a heavy door for wind. 819 00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:16,333 It would have to be a burly gust. 820 00:37:16,335 --> 00:37:18,235 Like, yeah. 821 00:37:18,237 --> 00:37:20,503 Jack: And it when you were asking... 822 00:37:20,505 --> 00:37:22,105 I was asking dean to actually 823 00:37:22,107 --> 00:37:24,074 Walk in front of our lasers for us... 824 00:37:24,076 --> 00:37:25,709 Okay. ...So we could see him on camera. 825 00:37:25,711 --> 00:37:27,143 Jack: Alright. 826 00:37:27,145 --> 00:37:31,381 ♪♪ 827 00:37:31,383 --> 00:37:34,784 Thank you, dean. -Bye, dean. 828 00:37:34,786 --> 00:37:36,620 Actually, it was really funny, I don't know if you heard it, 829 00:37:36,622 --> 00:37:38,321 When I was asking him to do that, 830 00:37:38,323 --> 00:37:39,923 The rem pod started going off. 831 00:37:39,925 --> 00:37:41,558 -Jack: Really? -[ chuckles ] yeah. 832 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,726 Even when you weren't in the room? 833 00:37:42,728 --> 00:37:44,194 No, I wasn't in the room. 834 00:37:44,196 --> 00:37:45,962 I was like, "can you just do that for me, please?" 835 00:37:45,964 --> 00:37:49,699 And it was like... [ imitates device beeping ] 836 00:37:49,701 --> 00:37:51,968 That's the craziest [bleep] I've ever seen. 837 00:37:51,970 --> 00:37:53,436 Like... 838 00:37:53,438 --> 00:37:55,238 Wow. -Yeah. 839 00:37:56,742 --> 00:37:57,907 Jack: I think we had 840 00:37:57,909 --> 00:38:00,176 One of the most poignant paranormal experiences 841 00:38:00,178 --> 00:38:02,712 In my paranormal investigative career. 842 00:38:02,714 --> 00:38:04,414 He can't hurt you, okay? [ beeps ] 843 00:38:05,984 --> 00:38:07,617 [ exhales deeply ] 844 00:38:07,619 --> 00:38:11,454 That conversation, that was powerful. 845 00:38:11,456 --> 00:38:12,989 Very powerful. 846 00:38:12,991 --> 00:38:19,029 ♪♪ 847 00:38:19,031 --> 00:38:20,063 Rebecca: Hey, guys. How you doing? 848 00:38:20,065 --> 00:38:21,431 Jack: Good. How you doing? 849 00:38:21,433 --> 00:38:23,733 So first, we brought our friend michelle, who's a medium. 850 00:38:23,735 --> 00:38:25,935 She calls herself a "psychic bloodhound." 851 00:38:25,937 --> 00:38:27,537 Okay. [ laughs ] interesting. 852 00:38:27,539 --> 00:38:31,174 And she arrived at the insane asylum 853 00:38:31,176 --> 00:38:33,743 Completely blindfolded, didn't know anything about the place, 854 00:38:33,745 --> 00:38:35,312 Has never been here before. 855 00:38:35,314 --> 00:38:39,449 And initially, she started picking up childlike energy 856 00:38:39,451 --> 00:38:43,553 In the bedpost room, so we went back to that room 857 00:38:43,555 --> 00:38:47,724 Without michelle to do the bulk of our investigation. Mm-hmm. 858 00:38:47,726 --> 00:38:49,326 And we brought a rem pod with us, 859 00:38:49,328 --> 00:38:51,828 Which emits, like, an electromagnetic field 860 00:38:51,830 --> 00:38:54,631 That if something breaks it... -Mm-hmm. 861 00:38:54,633 --> 00:38:57,067 ...Or has its own electromagnetic frequency, 862 00:38:57,069 --> 00:38:59,135 It will trigger it. And -- 863 00:38:59,137 --> 00:39:02,238 Wait, you're saying you think you communicated with dean? 864 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:05,408 We literally had a long conversation with him 865 00:39:05,410 --> 00:39:06,643 With a rem pod. 866 00:39:06,645 --> 00:39:08,445 Do you know the people who killed you? 867 00:39:10,382 --> 00:39:12,916 [ beeps ] 868 00:39:12,918 --> 00:39:14,784 So, I'll take you back a little bit to michelle. 869 00:39:14,786 --> 00:39:17,354 She's like, "I see him crawling around on the floor. 870 00:39:17,356 --> 00:39:19,356 He's hiding under his bed." 871 00:39:19,358 --> 00:39:21,658 She's like, "I feel like he's so kind, 872 00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:24,361 But he has a tendency for violent outbursts." 873 00:39:24,363 --> 00:39:25,595 That's exactly him. 874 00:39:25,597 --> 00:39:27,397 -Jack: Yeah. -Katrina: Right? 875 00:39:27,399 --> 00:39:29,432 I don't know if he can't use his legs 876 00:39:29,434 --> 00:39:32,969 Or if he just likes crawling around on the floor. 877 00:39:32,971 --> 00:39:35,839 Timid, though, not chatty. 878 00:39:35,841 --> 00:39:38,808 Almost mute, but could be violent. 879 00:39:38,810 --> 00:39:40,677 This was the hallway. 880 00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:43,513 Now, we put up a laser grid, and, you know, the theory is 881 00:39:43,515 --> 00:39:45,982 If something passes through it, it'll block out the lasers 882 00:39:45,984 --> 00:39:48,385 And, you know, you might be able to make something out. 883 00:39:48,387 --> 00:39:51,988 Now, focus you attention on this area right here. 884 00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:53,890 Okay. 885 00:39:53,892 --> 00:39:55,525 Right here. 886 00:39:55,527 --> 00:39:58,928 ♪♪ 887 00:39:58,930 --> 00:40:00,563 Watch. 888 00:40:03,702 --> 00:40:05,502 No way! 889 00:40:05,504 --> 00:40:08,405 We're trying to determine what that is. 890 00:40:08,407 --> 00:40:09,906 Is it light reflecting off somewhere? 891 00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:11,808 If so, what is the light? 892 00:40:11,810 --> 00:40:14,878 This emits from the center of it out 893 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,346 And then shrinks back in. 894 00:40:16,348 --> 00:40:18,948 Watch it again. Right here. 895 00:40:21,186 --> 00:40:22,952 Then it shrinks back into itself. 896 00:40:22,954 --> 00:40:24,187 Wow. 897 00:40:24,189 --> 00:40:27,023 And that during our rem pod session with dean. 898 00:40:27,025 --> 00:40:29,459 -Well, that's very unusual. -Yeah. 899 00:40:29,461 --> 00:40:32,896 Okay, so, do you think he is the black mass 900 00:40:32,898 --> 00:40:34,931 That's going back and forth from the room 901 00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:37,133 Into his area, playing a game? -Katrina: Yeah. 902 00:40:37,135 --> 00:40:40,236 So michelle believes the shadow is dean 903 00:40:40,238 --> 00:40:43,072 And that it's a residual energy that's playing in there, 904 00:40:43,074 --> 00:40:44,674 But it's also an intelligence. 905 00:40:44,676 --> 00:40:47,444 Considering how many people experience stuff... 906 00:40:47,446 --> 00:40:49,012 -Yeah. -...In that area of the hospital 907 00:40:49,014 --> 00:40:51,181 And that it always seems to be connected to dean 908 00:40:51,183 --> 00:40:53,583 And the murder that happened there... Mm-hmm. 909 00:40:53,585 --> 00:40:55,752 I think that makes a lot of sense. 910 00:40:55,754 --> 00:40:57,687 Jack: Have you heard of the stone tape theory? 911 00:40:57,689 --> 00:40:59,589 -No. -Okay, the stone tape theory 912 00:40:59,591 --> 00:41:03,626 Is one that stone can record energy. 913 00:41:03,628 --> 00:41:06,663 So the fact that the building's made of sandstone, 914 00:41:06,665 --> 00:41:08,264 And in a lot of cases, 915 00:41:08,266 --> 00:41:11,234 Sandstone has a high quartz crystal content... Mm-hmm. 916 00:41:11,236 --> 00:41:14,771 ...In it, I'm wondering if the building is holding on 917 00:41:14,773 --> 00:41:16,573 To some of the energy. 918 00:41:16,575 --> 00:41:18,208 That is very interesting. 919 00:41:18,210 --> 00:41:20,443 So I think you have a lot of different things going on here. 920 00:41:20,445 --> 00:41:23,580 And as far as portals go or openings, 921 00:41:23,582 --> 00:41:26,549 I think there's just a ton of elements here that, 922 00:41:26,551 --> 00:41:29,185 When we're looking at it from a paranormal perspective, 923 00:41:29,187 --> 00:41:30,320 Really start to make sense 924 00:41:30,322 --> 00:41:32,188 When you start looking at all the layers. 925 00:41:32,190 --> 00:41:33,590 Yep. 926 00:41:33,592 --> 00:41:35,191 It's usually places where there's so much activity. 927 00:41:35,193 --> 00:41:38,294 And places with a lot pain and trauma, like trans-allegheny, 928 00:41:38,296 --> 00:41:40,230 We know there was pain there. We know there was trauma. 929 00:41:40,232 --> 00:41:42,232 We know there were people that had procedures done 930 00:41:42,234 --> 00:41:44,033 That they couldn't consent to. 931 00:41:44,035 --> 00:41:46,202 And I think a lot of times in the paranormal, 932 00:41:46,204 --> 00:41:48,872 We see that open doorways to certain things. 933 00:41:48,874 --> 00:41:49,973 It's one of those things, like, 934 00:41:49,975 --> 00:41:51,441 I run away, and you run toward it. 935 00:41:51,443 --> 00:41:52,808 It is very frightening. 936 00:41:52,810 --> 00:41:54,444 -Yeah. -Very frightening to me. 937 00:41:54,446 --> 00:41:57,413 But, I mean, really, it makes so much more sense to me now. 938 00:41:57,415 --> 00:41:59,682 But I can't tell you how much I appreciate you guys coming. 939 00:41:59,684 --> 00:42:00,884 -Katrina: Yeah. -Hey, this was awesome. 940 00:42:00,886 --> 00:42:03,253 It was a great experience. 941 00:42:03,255 --> 00:42:06,356 The things is, is that it's not always black or white. 942 00:42:06,358 --> 00:42:08,091 Sometimes you have to open your mind up 943 00:42:08,093 --> 00:42:10,727 To the things that scare you the most. 944 00:42:10,729 --> 00:42:12,295 For me, I think the most compelling stuff 945 00:42:12,297 --> 00:42:14,497 That we came across is the potential 946 00:42:14,499 --> 00:42:17,934 Of the stone tape theory. -Mm-hmm. 947 00:42:17,936 --> 00:42:19,569 Just that the building is holding this energy there? 948 00:42:19,571 --> 00:42:20,737 -Yes. -Mm-hmm. 949 00:42:20,739 --> 00:42:24,107 And even energy that is still alive. 950 00:42:24,109 --> 00:42:26,075 If these walls could talk, 951 00:42:26,077 --> 00:42:29,145 I guarantee you they would tell some pretty horrific stories. 952 00:42:29,147 --> 00:42:37,386 ♪♪ 81125

Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.