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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:21,414 --> 00:01:23,649 Let's take this video to the Idaho side of the Park. 2 00:01:25,285 --> 00:01:27,286 But to get to Idaho, you go out the west entrance. 3 00:01:27,288 --> 00:01:28,587 The west entrance? Okay. 4 00:01:28,589 --> 00:01:30,656 Is that the region where, um... 5 00:01:30,658 --> 00:01:32,658 Have you heard of this constitutional loophole thing? 6 00:01:32,660 --> 00:01:34,226 Is that the region where that is? 7 00:01:34,228 --> 00:01:36,161 Constitutional loophole? I'm not following that. 8 00:01:36,163 --> 00:01:37,563 You never read any articles about that stuff? 9 00:01:38,431 --> 00:01:39,698 - No. - Okay. 10 00:01:40,467 --> 00:01:40,466 Thanks a lot. 11 00:01:40,468 --> 00:01:42,801 - Here you go. - Thank you. 12 00:01:42,803 --> 00:01:43,802 - Have a great day. - I will. 13 00:01:47,707 --> 00:01:49,341 Knows nothing. 14 00:01:49,343 --> 00:01:50,576 No one knows anything. 15 00:02:02,755 --> 00:02:05,524 Yellowstone National Park. 16 00:02:05,526 --> 00:02:07,226 Around every corner is a reminder 17 00:02:07,228 --> 00:02:08,427 of how still life can be. 18 00:02:10,296 --> 00:02:11,730 How vast it can be. 19 00:02:13,867 --> 00:02:15,267 How true it can be. 20 00:02:16,503 --> 00:02:18,303 Until it isn't. 21 00:02:21,407 --> 00:02:21,406 Yellowstone woke up 22 00:02:21,408 --> 00:02:23,809 to what has to be the worst crime 23 00:02:23,811 --> 00:02:25,644 in the National Park's history. 24 00:02:26,479 --> 00:02:27,713 A bizarre triple homicide, 25 00:02:27,715 --> 00:02:27,713 where the murderer immediately 26 00:02:27,715 --> 00:02:30,449 turned himself in and confessed. 27 00:02:31,518 --> 00:02:32,851 First victim was by the fire. 28 00:02:35,656 --> 00:02:38,323 The second one, I don't know, maybe 10 feet from it. 29 00:02:41,695 --> 00:02:43,829 This is where the third victim was shot. 30 00:02:43,831 --> 00:02:45,264 - Okay. - By the back wheel? 31 00:02:48,802 --> 00:02:48,800 I just really can't understand 32 00:02:48,802 --> 00:02:52,704 how a man can commit all these horrific crimes, you know, 33 00:02:53,406 --> 00:02:54,806 and then just... 34 00:02:54,808 --> 00:02:56,408 Talk about it like he's 35 00:02:56,410 --> 00:02:58,343 reciting the details of a traffic violation. 36 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,415 Nobody could have expected 37 00:03:03,417 --> 00:03:06,952 the side swipe that occurred. 38 00:03:06,954 --> 00:03:09,788 We're talking about a confessed murderer here. 39 00:03:09,790 --> 00:03:12,558 One who showed no remorse, no regret. 40 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,459 This guy should have been put away for life. 41 00:03:17,664 --> 00:03:17,663 There is no resolution. 42 00:03:17,665 --> 00:03:21,800 I mean, it's just this thing hanging over us. 43 00:03:21,802 --> 00:03:23,435 I think most of the country, most of the world, 44 00:03:23,437 --> 00:03:24,903 hasn't even heard of this. 45 00:03:24,905 --> 00:03:26,672 Well, this whole thing was swept under the rug. 46 00:03:27,807 --> 00:03:28,941 It's an embarrassment. 47 00:03:42,488 --> 00:03:44,456 My name is Julian Pinder. 48 00:03:44,458 --> 00:03:44,456 As a documentary filmmaker, 49 00:03:44,458 --> 00:03:47,726 I believe anything in life can be fascinating 50 00:03:47,728 --> 00:03:50,329 when you delve into the details. 51 00:03:50,331 --> 00:03:53,232 I find characters and I tell a story through them. 52 00:03:53,234 --> 00:03:56,768 Their words, their actions, their eyes. 53 00:03:56,770 --> 00:03:58,570 But it's a completely different story 54 00:03:58,572 --> 00:03:59,905 when the camera turns on you. 55 00:03:59,907 --> 00:04:00,839 It's nice. 56 00:04:02,375 --> 00:04:03,442 How's that? 57 00:04:07,513 --> 00:04:07,512 I first heard of this story 58 00:04:07,514 --> 00:04:11,483 when I received an email not too long ago. 59 00:04:12,619 --> 00:04:12,618 Three boys were murdered 60 00:04:12,620 --> 00:04:16,588 in a remote part of Yellowstone National Park. 61 00:04:17,857 --> 00:04:20,459 What struck me was that the murders took place 62 00:04:20,461 --> 00:04:23,729 on April 27th, 2009, 63 00:04:23,731 --> 00:04:24,963 nearly five years ago. 64 00:04:26,366 --> 00:04:27,866 Why was I being sent this now? 65 00:04:31,871 --> 00:04:37,342 The email came from chasingbisonbear@gmail.com. 66 00:04:37,344 --> 00:04:40,012 I was unsuccessful in contacting the source of the email. 67 00:04:40,780 --> 00:04:42,481 But when I did a search, 68 00:04:42,483 --> 00:04:45,384 incredible images immediately surfaced 69 00:04:45,386 --> 00:04:47,753 of a bear chasing a burnt bison 70 00:04:47,755 --> 00:04:50,289 down a winter road in Yellowstone. 71 00:04:50,291 --> 00:04:52,958 Incredible and unbelievable. 72 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,993 A chase like none other seen before. 73 00:04:57,397 --> 00:04:59,931 These images would prove to be a metaphor 74 00:05:00,767 --> 00:05:02,801 for the Yellowstone murders. 75 00:05:08,776 --> 00:05:11,476 David Drabeck, Thomas Burnett and Cody Gibbs 76 00:05:11,478 --> 00:05:13,512 were camping in Yellowstone National Park, 77 00:05:13,514 --> 00:05:13,512 when tragedy struck. 78 00:05:13,514 --> 00:05:17,516 A chance encounter with a stranger proved fatal 79 00:05:17,518 --> 00:05:19,751 when Williston resident, Dwayne Nelson, 80 00:05:19,753 --> 00:05:21,353 killed the young men 81 00:05:21,355 --> 00:05:22,921 in a self-described moment of insanity. 82 00:05:22,923 --> 00:05:24,723 Shocking news of a three person homicide 83 00:05:24,725 --> 00:05:24,723 early this morning. 84 00:05:24,725 --> 00:05:26,692 The suspect turned himself in 85 00:05:26,694 --> 00:05:28,660 just after 5:30 A.M. 86 00:05:28,662 --> 00:05:30,629 In what has to be the worst crime 87 00:05:30,631 --> 00:05:31,697 in the National Park's history. 88 00:05:32,932 --> 00:05:33,965 I was here, 89 00:05:35,068 --> 00:05:37,803 and I received a phone call. 90 00:05:38,805 --> 00:05:41,940 It was our family doctor. 91 00:05:41,942 --> 00:05:44,609 There was an emergency contact thing 92 00:05:44,611 --> 00:05:45,911 in Thomas' wallet. 93 00:05:45,913 --> 00:05:45,911 It was the middle of the night. 94 00:05:45,913 --> 00:05:48,580 I didn't know why I was getting a call. 95 00:05:49,682 --> 00:05:53,652 I... I dropped to that floor. 96 00:05:53,654 --> 00:05:56,822 And I didn't think I was ever going to get up again. 97 00:05:58,424 --> 00:06:00,525 First thing was... 98 00:06:01,994 --> 00:06:02,994 Was violence. 99 00:06:03,963 --> 00:06:05,097 Because, uh... 100 00:06:06,532 --> 00:06:07,666 I heard that someone shot him... 101 00:06:09,035 --> 00:06:10,635 In the back. 102 00:06:10,637 --> 00:06:13,138 And I... was angry. I was very angry. 103 00:06:14,507 --> 00:06:16,041 It took a while for 104 00:06:17,477 --> 00:06:18,477 grief to set in. 105 00:06:19,712 --> 00:06:19,711 I didn't believe it. 106 00:06:22,915 --> 00:06:24,015 I thought they'd made a mistake, 107 00:06:24,017 --> 00:06:25,083 came to the wrong house, 108 00:06:26,386 --> 00:06:27,719 had the wrong boy. 109 00:06:27,721 --> 00:06:27,719 I didn't believe it. 110 00:06:27,721 --> 00:06:30,756 I didn't believe it till I actually saw his body. 111 00:06:37,463 --> 00:06:40,165 On that day I can remember pretty much everything. 112 00:06:40,167 --> 00:06:42,901 I remember the color of the sky, 113 00:06:42,903 --> 00:06:44,636 the calmness in the air. 114 00:06:46,005 --> 00:06:48,407 I was just here at my post. 115 00:06:48,409 --> 00:06:50,442 This particular ranger station, um, 116 00:06:50,977 --> 00:06:54,079 is the furthest south-west 117 00:06:54,081 --> 00:06:55,814 that you can get to by vehicle 118 00:06:55,816 --> 00:06:57,916 in Yellowstone. 119 00:06:57,918 --> 00:07:00,819 It was just after 5:30 in the morning. 120 00:07:02,188 --> 00:07:04,089 I'd just made myself a cup of coffee. 121 00:07:05,558 --> 00:07:06,992 He walked out of the woods, 122 00:07:08,628 --> 00:07:10,595 the West Side, the entrance side. 123 00:07:11,497 --> 00:07:12,497 He left the weapon 124 00:07:13,099 --> 00:07:14,099 outside of the door, 125 00:07:14,101 --> 00:07:15,801 and just walked in. 126 00:07:18,104 --> 00:07:18,103 The way it happened, 127 00:07:18,105 --> 00:07:20,872 you'd think there would have been some emotion. 128 00:07:23,075 --> 00:07:24,576 But like I said before, 129 00:07:24,578 --> 00:07:27,479 he seemed so calm and, uh... 130 00:07:28,781 --> 00:07:29,781 So normal. 131 00:07:32,552 --> 00:07:33,485 Right here. 132 00:07:36,088 --> 00:07:37,022 This way. 133 00:07:40,159 --> 00:07:42,160 It was right in here that they parked the truck. 134 00:07:43,996 --> 00:07:45,697 This is where the third victim was shot, 135 00:07:45,699 --> 00:07:47,132 - by the back wheel. - Okay. 136 00:07:48,601 --> 00:07:49,701 It's a bit of a clearing here. 137 00:07:52,872 --> 00:07:54,172 And this is where the fire pit 138 00:07:55,041 --> 00:07:56,741 was set up. 139 00:07:56,743 --> 00:07:56,741 Right around here. 140 00:07:56,743 --> 00:08:00,045 This is where the other two victims were found. 141 00:08:00,047 --> 00:08:01,546 First victim was by the fire, 142 00:08:03,115 --> 00:08:04,249 and the second one, 143 00:08:04,251 --> 00:08:06,651 I don't know, maybe ten feet from it. 144 00:08:06,653 --> 00:08:07,919 Never stood much of a chance. 145 00:08:18,631 --> 00:08:19,865 The families... 146 00:08:20,733 --> 00:08:21,900 Come and visit them. 147 00:08:22,935 --> 00:08:24,202 They bring flowers and stuff. 148 00:08:28,808 --> 00:08:31,042 But he just wanted to be outside, all the time. 149 00:08:31,044 --> 00:08:33,144 I mean, he's the guy that organized all those trips, 150 00:08:33,146 --> 00:08:34,746 every year. 151 00:08:34,748 --> 00:08:35,947 Even when they weren't around, he'd grab his knapsack 152 00:08:35,949 --> 00:08:37,749 and be gone. 153 00:08:37,751 --> 00:08:38,984 Go off hiking by himself. 154 00:08:38,986 --> 00:08:38,984 He just... 155 00:08:38,986 --> 00:08:42,287 I don't know what it was about him. 156 00:08:42,289 --> 00:08:44,189 I guess he found something in nature that... 157 00:08:45,258 --> 00:08:46,791 That put him at peace, I don't know. 158 00:08:46,793 --> 00:08:48,126 But he loved it. 159 00:08:49,295 --> 00:08:53,632 This is, uh, Thomas and Alicia. 160 00:08:53,634 --> 00:08:54,966 - Great looking couple. - Yeah. 161 00:08:54,968 --> 00:08:57,235 And Thomas on his wedding day. 162 00:08:57,237 --> 00:08:58,670 That's a great shot. 163 00:08:58,672 --> 00:09:01,239 And another one of Thomas and Alicia. 164 00:09:01,241 --> 00:09:03,542 This one over here, this is, uh... 165 00:09:03,544 --> 00:09:05,210 This is all the boys together. 166 00:09:05,212 --> 00:09:06,745 Thomas, Cody and David. 167 00:09:08,214 --> 00:09:10,115 Oh, you know. I'll show you this, actually. 168 00:09:11,617 --> 00:09:12,951 Here's... 169 00:09:15,655 --> 00:09:17,656 I took that on the morning that they left. 170 00:09:19,258 --> 00:09:21,059 They did that trip every year. 171 00:09:21,061 --> 00:09:23,194 Well, David didn't actually join them until 172 00:09:23,196 --> 00:09:24,195 the third year. 173 00:09:24,197 --> 00:09:25,730 But, uh... 174 00:09:25,732 --> 00:09:27,632 This was their... This was their fifth year 175 00:09:28,134 --> 00:09:30,001 doing the trip. 176 00:09:30,003 --> 00:09:32,837 You know, they'd all come over here in the morning, 177 00:09:32,839 --> 00:09:34,306 and they'd have breakfast, and... 178 00:09:36,242 --> 00:09:37,909 And then they'd leave. 179 00:09:37,911 --> 00:09:39,911 Thomas, he was the one with the pickup truck. So... 180 00:09:41,113 --> 00:09:42,080 And that's that. 181 00:09:51,857 --> 00:09:53,191 Sorry. 182 00:09:53,193 --> 00:09:54,359 It's all right. 183 00:09:57,863 --> 00:09:59,030 Okay. 184 00:09:59,032 --> 00:10:01,900 I built a business that I... 185 00:10:02,868 --> 00:10:04,703 Wanted to leave to him. 186 00:10:04,705 --> 00:10:07,606 You know, I respect what he did and what he loved, 187 00:10:07,608 --> 00:10:11,142 but I thought at some point he's gotta grow up and accept 188 00:10:11,844 --> 00:10:13,812 who he is and... 189 00:10:15,181 --> 00:10:16,982 You know? 190 00:10:16,984 --> 00:10:18,283 At least make a life for himself. 191 00:10:18,285 --> 00:10:19,351 Make a career for himself. 192 00:10:23,789 --> 00:10:26,358 - Drive safe. - Will do. Bye. 193 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,393 - Love you, mom. - Bye. 194 00:10:28,395 --> 00:10:29,728 He was going off to... 195 00:10:30,763 --> 00:10:33,298 Yellowstone the umpteenth time, 196 00:10:33,300 --> 00:10:35,033 and it was just... 197 00:10:35,035 --> 00:10:35,033 He was on my last nerve that day. 198 00:10:35,035 --> 00:10:38,970 We'd had a little spat at dinner the night before, 199 00:10:38,972 --> 00:10:40,305 and then he go... traipse off to the... 200 00:10:41,674 --> 00:10:43,808 To the Park, and I just, you know... 201 00:10:43,810 --> 00:10:43,808 The last thing I said 202 00:10:43,810 --> 00:10:47,779 was just, you know, "good luck finding a career. 203 00:10:48,314 --> 00:10:50,181 In the woods." 204 00:10:50,183 --> 00:10:51,816 Or whatever I said. It just... 205 00:10:55,054 --> 00:10:56,655 There are only four people 206 00:10:56,657 --> 00:10:58,189 who truly know what happened that night. 207 00:11:00,426 --> 00:11:02,260 Three of them are dead. 208 00:11:02,262 --> 00:11:03,995 The only eye witness account 209 00:11:03,997 --> 00:11:05,830 comes from Dwayne Nelson, 210 00:11:05,832 --> 00:11:07,198 the man who pulled the trigger. 211 00:11:08,734 --> 00:11:10,835 You know, once the suspect is talking, 212 00:11:11,937 --> 00:11:11,936 they don't shut up. 213 00:11:11,938 --> 00:11:15,306 It's like they need to get it out. 214 00:11:15,308 --> 00:11:16,708 But let me tell you something. 215 00:11:17,810 --> 00:11:19,144 With Dwayne, 216 00:11:19,146 --> 00:11:20,211 he gave us everything. 217 00:11:21,013 --> 00:11:22,981 It was almost like the... 218 00:11:22,983 --> 00:11:24,082 It was rehearsed. 219 00:15:20,953 --> 00:15:23,221 I'm standing outside the Cheyenne Police Station, 220 00:15:23,223 --> 00:15:25,590 where Dwayne Nelson will soon be moved to the Courthouse 221 00:15:25,592 --> 00:15:27,292 to attend a preliminary hearing 222 00:15:27,294 --> 00:15:30,528 in a case that is being dubbed "the Yellowstone murders." 223 00:15:30,530 --> 00:15:32,196 A bizarre triple homicide, 224 00:15:32,198 --> 00:15:32,196 where the murderer immediately 225 00:15:32,198 --> 00:15:34,699 turned himself in and confessed. 226 00:15:36,502 --> 00:15:38,269 I just really can't understand 227 00:15:38,271 --> 00:15:41,406 how a man could commit all these horrific crimes, you know. 228 00:15:41,408 --> 00:15:44,609 And then just talk about it like he's, uh... 229 00:15:44,611 --> 00:15:47,078 Reciting the details of a traffic violation. 230 00:15:58,424 --> 00:16:01,159 If you could say something to Dwayne Nelson, 231 00:16:02,561 --> 00:16:04,996 and you had that opportunity, what would you say to him? 232 00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:08,333 If I could say anything 233 00:16:08,701 --> 00:16:10,068 to Dwayne, 234 00:16:11,537 --> 00:16:13,604 I would say that i want my son back. 235 00:16:15,641 --> 00:16:17,642 I would say that I want Cody back. 236 00:16:18,277 --> 00:16:20,578 Out of the way. 237 00:16:20,580 --> 00:16:22,146 He's never offered me an apology. 238 00:16:22,148 --> 00:16:25,583 He's never taken any responsibility for his actions. 239 00:16:25,585 --> 00:16:26,651 What will I have to say to him? 240 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:28,753 Nothing. 241 00:16:38,630 --> 00:16:40,198 We're live now. 242 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,434 He will pay for the murders of these boys. 243 00:16:44,636 --> 00:16:46,504 And he will understand what it feels like 244 00:16:46,506 --> 00:16:48,339 to have something taken away from you. 245 00:16:50,075 --> 00:16:51,509 If I could even just... 246 00:16:52,544 --> 00:16:54,178 Understand why 247 00:16:55,214 --> 00:16:57,415 this person did this, 248 00:16:58,283 --> 00:16:59,784 then I could maybe 249 00:16:59,786 --> 00:17:02,120 move better to forgiveness, but... 250 00:17:02,122 --> 00:17:03,588 Because it's just so... 251 00:17:04,456 --> 00:17:07,291 Senseless and random. 252 00:17:09,361 --> 00:17:11,496 It shook my faith for a very long time. 253 00:17:17,636 --> 00:17:19,437 Cheyenne Police spent three months 254 00:17:19,439 --> 00:17:20,571 looking for a motive. 255 00:17:21,407 --> 00:17:24,075 They found none. 256 00:17:24,077 --> 00:17:26,677 With Dwayne's confession, they were certain of a conviction. 257 00:17:33,485 --> 00:17:35,553 There were still questions that needed answering. 258 00:17:37,256 --> 00:17:37,255 I canceled my flight home 259 00:17:37,257 --> 00:17:40,324 and headed to Cheyenne, Wyoming, 260 00:17:40,326 --> 00:17:42,260 where the hearing took place years ago. 261 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,075 I think the only regret I have is... 262 00:17:58,243 --> 00:17:59,243 Is maybe the, uh... 263 00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:03,081 The over-confidence that we were... 264 00:18:04,149 --> 00:18:06,617 That it was a done thing. 265 00:18:07,453 --> 00:18:08,486 A surefire 266 00:18:09,421 --> 00:18:10,621 win for us. 267 00:18:10,623 --> 00:18:11,622 But I, uh... 268 00:18:14,193 --> 00:18:16,194 I honestly didn't think that it would go through. 269 00:18:18,297 --> 00:18:20,865 I wouldn't call it arrogant, but certainly, 270 00:18:20,867 --> 00:18:23,101 it seemed like an easy case to me. 271 00:18:23,103 --> 00:18:24,669 You wanna take your feelings out of it, 272 00:18:24,671 --> 00:18:27,472 but we're talking about a confessed murderer here. 273 00:18:27,474 --> 00:18:29,874 One who showed no remorse, no regret. 274 00:18:29,876 --> 00:18:32,777 We had murder weapon. 275 00:18:32,779 --> 00:18:33,778 We had fingerprints. 276 00:18:34,646 --> 00:18:34,645 Security footage, 277 00:18:34,647 --> 00:18:38,282 and a population screaming for justice. 278 00:18:38,284 --> 00:18:40,218 And who wanted him put away for life. 279 00:18:40,220 --> 00:18:42,487 And at that time, there was 280 00:18:42,489 --> 00:18:45,189 no doubt in my mind we were gonna do just that. 281 00:18:48,393 --> 00:18:51,129 The fact that I got the Nelson case was a surprise. 282 00:18:51,131 --> 00:18:52,463 My first, uh... 283 00:18:53,232 --> 00:18:54,832 Murder trial. 284 00:18:54,834 --> 00:18:57,702 And I knew it was gonna be a big deal. 285 00:18:58,637 --> 00:18:59,604 Uh... 286 00:19:00,572 --> 00:19:02,707 And it was a big deal. 287 00:19:03,842 --> 00:19:05,476 Dwayne's case was very unique. 288 00:19:06,211 --> 00:19:07,378 Okay? 289 00:19:09,381 --> 00:19:11,182 What you had here was 290 00:19:11,184 --> 00:19:12,416 a classic plea pardon case. 291 00:19:14,453 --> 00:19:16,921 There was no logic to his motivation. 292 00:19:16,923 --> 00:19:17,855 Absolutely none. 293 00:19:19,591 --> 00:19:22,827 Which set it up for an insanity plea. 294 00:19:22,829 --> 00:19:25,429 I wanted to change the location of the trial. 295 00:19:26,365 --> 00:19:28,499 I wanted to, uh... 296 00:19:28,501 --> 00:19:29,800 Make sure that we had an impartial jury. 297 00:19:29,802 --> 00:19:31,302 He wouldn't stand for it. 298 00:19:31,304 --> 00:19:33,337 The loophole was brought up to me 299 00:19:33,339 --> 00:19:35,773 almost exactly 24 hours before we went to the hearing. 300 00:19:39,478 --> 00:19:41,279 So we looked at it. We looked at it, 301 00:19:41,281 --> 00:19:42,847 we danced around it, it was a conversation. 302 00:19:43,916 --> 00:19:45,416 And, uh... 303 00:19:45,418 --> 00:19:47,285 And then we looked into the legalities of it. 304 00:19:49,321 --> 00:19:50,421 Then we ran with it. 305 00:19:52,224 --> 00:19:53,858 Will the defendant please rise. 306 00:19:54,860 --> 00:19:57,295 Based on Federal and District Law, 307 00:19:57,297 --> 00:20:00,698 the Constitution and with no legal precedent to draw from, 308 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:02,934 I have no choice but to side with the defense. 309 00:20:02,936 --> 00:20:04,602 Mr. Nelson, you are free to go. 310 00:20:05,905 --> 00:20:09,407 The murder trial in Cheyenne this morning 311 00:20:09,409 --> 00:20:11,776 has taken yet another unexpected turn. 312 00:20:11,778 --> 00:20:13,578 During today's preliminary hearing, 313 00:20:13,580 --> 00:20:15,313 confessed murderer, Dwayne Nelson, 314 00:20:15,315 --> 00:20:17,848 was acquitted of all charges 315 00:20:17,850 --> 00:20:20,985 due to what can only be described as a flaw in the system. 316 00:20:20,987 --> 00:20:20,985 ...an unusual case. 317 00:20:20,987 --> 00:20:24,355 And families are understandably shocked 318 00:20:24,357 --> 00:20:24,355 with the Judge's decision. 319 00:20:24,357 --> 00:20:26,891 Imagine a murderer being allowed to 320 00:20:26,893 --> 00:20:28,826 walk the streets as a free man. 321 00:20:28,828 --> 00:20:31,495 That's exactly what took place here today. 322 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,736 I remember there was absolute confusion 323 00:20:38,738 --> 00:20:40,004 and shock. 324 00:20:40,006 --> 00:20:41,239 All hell broke loose. 325 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:42,974 Right? It was... 326 00:20:43,775 --> 00:20:45,643 Insanity. 327 00:20:45,645 --> 00:20:48,446 We weren't prepared for that. I wasn't prepared for that. 328 00:20:48,448 --> 00:20:50,314 This guy should have been put away for life. 329 00:20:52,451 --> 00:20:54,418 It was so far beyond logic. 330 00:20:55,420 --> 00:20:56,988 So far beyond reason. 331 00:20:56,990 --> 00:20:58,723 It was... it was... 332 00:21:00,292 --> 00:21:01,525 Beyond justice. 333 00:21:04,029 --> 00:21:06,330 And the worst part was feeling the shift. 334 00:21:08,333 --> 00:21:10,668 You know, 'cause it was like Dwayne 335 00:21:10,670 --> 00:21:11,902 was no longer the bad guy. 336 00:21:13,038 --> 00:21:14,038 I was. 337 00:21:15,874 --> 00:21:19,043 And it was the assistants that came in 338 00:21:19,045 --> 00:21:21,379 and gave us the news initially. 339 00:21:22,547 --> 00:21:22,546 So they could be the recipients 340 00:21:22,548 --> 00:21:27,285 of all of our grief and all of our anger at that moment. 341 00:21:27,287 --> 00:21:29,520 And then the head team came in 342 00:21:29,522 --> 00:21:31,022 and explained to us what had happened. 343 00:21:33,325 --> 00:21:35,426 The loophole in the law changed everything. 344 00:21:36,295 --> 00:21:38,396 And unless we could prove 345 00:21:38,398 --> 00:21:38,396 that the murders were premeditated, 346 00:21:38,398 --> 00:21:42,967 or that a felony was committed leading up to the murders, 347 00:21:42,969 --> 00:21:45,469 this crime could not and cannot be tried. 348 00:21:45,471 --> 00:21:46,537 You need a motive. 349 00:21:46,539 --> 00:21:48,806 We need motive to move the trail, 350 00:21:48,808 --> 00:21:50,875 to get him out from under the protection of that goddamn loophole. 351 00:21:52,611 --> 00:21:54,378 We had covered all the bases. 352 00:21:54,380 --> 00:21:56,013 We had looked for any connection 353 00:21:56,015 --> 00:21:58,316 between Dwayne Nelson and his murder victims. 354 00:21:58,318 --> 00:21:58,316 But there wasn't any. 355 00:21:58,318 --> 00:22:00,584 Dwayne was from North Dakota, 356 00:22:00,586 --> 00:22:03,087 and the boys were from Rapid City. 357 00:22:04,589 --> 00:22:06,023 So, as Dwayne confessed, 358 00:22:06,025 --> 00:22:08,659 it was an isolated incident. There was no motive. 359 00:22:10,429 --> 00:22:13,864 We were all regular... 360 00:22:13,866 --> 00:22:15,433 People who didn't even understand 361 00:22:15,435 --> 00:22:16,834 half of the system to begin with. 362 00:22:18,403 --> 00:22:21,839 And once we began with the whole 363 00:22:23,075 --> 00:22:26,911 State line, Federal, the State... 364 00:22:26,913 --> 00:22:30,948 I think we just assumed that they would work it out. 365 00:22:32,117 --> 00:22:35,586 I don't think anyone really understood 366 00:22:35,588 --> 00:22:37,555 the ramifications of this. 367 00:22:37,557 --> 00:22:39,123 I think there was a feeling, 368 00:22:39,125 --> 00:22:41,025 certainly in me, 369 00:22:41,027 --> 00:22:43,094 and I know in a few of the others, was that 370 00:22:43,096 --> 00:22:46,530 this was just maybe the first step 371 00:22:46,532 --> 00:22:50,034 in crossing this huge hurdle, 372 00:22:50,036 --> 00:22:52,770 and that we would stick with it, 373 00:22:52,772 --> 00:22:52,770 and there would be appeals, 374 00:22:52,772 --> 00:22:57,842 and everyone would throw their weight behind this. 375 00:22:57,844 --> 00:23:00,678 And as the weeks, and eventually months, passed, 376 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,381 and we realized, 377 00:23:03,383 --> 00:23:07,051 "No. No, this isn't... This isn't changing. 378 00:23:07,053 --> 00:23:10,554 This really is not changing in our favor." 379 00:23:10,556 --> 00:23:13,591 There was an incredible amount of anger. 380 00:23:13,593 --> 00:23:15,793 I don't feel guilty for adhering to the Constitution. 381 00:23:17,629 --> 00:23:19,163 I don't feel guilty 382 00:23:19,165 --> 00:23:20,965 doing what's right according to the law. 383 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:24,101 Right? I don't feel guilty 384 00:23:24,103 --> 00:23:26,437 for letting a man walk 385 00:23:26,439 --> 00:23:29,106 because the Constitution says that he should. 386 00:23:30,041 --> 00:23:31,041 I'm doing my job. 387 00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:34,178 The Court did their job. 388 00:23:34,180 --> 00:23:35,880 We all did our job on this. 389 00:23:38,717 --> 00:23:40,184 He walks. He's supposed to walk. 390 00:23:41,019 --> 00:23:42,186 Right? 391 00:23:45,724 --> 00:23:46,791 Simple. 392 00:23:51,563 --> 00:23:53,431 The fuck are we on? 393 00:23:53,433 --> 00:23:55,599 Left on the main street. 394 00:23:55,601 --> 00:23:59,203 Daniel Matcek was a local Yellowstone newspaper reporter. 395 00:23:59,205 --> 00:23:59,203 He covered the hearings 396 00:23:59,205 --> 00:24:02,973 and spent a lot of time researching the murders. 397 00:24:02,975 --> 00:24:04,942 It's a small town, 398 00:24:04,944 --> 00:24:04,942 and I've lived here my whole life. 399 00:24:04,944 --> 00:24:08,446 And nothing like this has ever happened before. 400 00:24:08,448 --> 00:24:11,982 So I have a responsibility to tell the story. 401 00:24:11,984 --> 00:24:16,720 I actually call my article "The Inconceivable Truth". 402 00:24:16,722 --> 00:24:19,123 It's so funny that it became a constitutional debate. 403 00:24:19,925 --> 00:24:21,592 Three boys were shot 404 00:24:21,594 --> 00:24:22,993 and killed. 405 00:24:22,995 --> 00:24:24,829 In cold blood. 406 00:24:24,831 --> 00:24:26,797 This is not a constitutional issue. 407 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:28,566 It became a constitutional issue 408 00:24:28,568 --> 00:24:31,569 because Dwayne made it a constitutional issue. 409 00:24:31,571 --> 00:24:34,138 There's three dead boys, 410 00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:35,606 and no one went to jail for it. 411 00:24:36,508 --> 00:24:37,775 No one was punished for it. 412 00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:38,209 What did he do? 413 00:24:38,211 --> 00:24:42,246 Six months for illegal possession of a firearm 414 00:24:42,248 --> 00:24:43,848 in a National Park? 415 00:24:43,850 --> 00:24:44,949 It's a joke. 416 00:24:44,951 --> 00:24:46,517 That is a joke 417 00:24:46,519 --> 00:24:47,985 to those families. 418 00:24:47,987 --> 00:24:50,588 I am still angry. 419 00:24:51,823 --> 00:24:52,957 I'm still in shock. 420 00:24:54,259 --> 00:24:59,029 I still feel completely betrayed by a system that 421 00:24:59,031 --> 00:25:01,732 not only did I think that was on my side, 422 00:25:01,734 --> 00:25:04,134 but I was assured it was on my side. 423 00:25:04,136 --> 00:25:05,836 Who came up with the loophole defense? 424 00:25:07,105 --> 00:25:08,239 I don't recall. 425 00:25:08,241 --> 00:25:10,007 I don't recall. 426 00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:11,275 We started throwing around... 427 00:25:11,277 --> 00:25:13,777 It was an idea that... 428 00:25:13,779 --> 00:25:16,180 Looked more and more interesting the more we looked at it. 429 00:25:16,182 --> 00:25:17,748 And we started to run with it. 430 00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:20,150 But you don't recall who came up with the one-- 431 00:25:20,152 --> 00:25:21,919 I don't recall. 432 00:25:21,921 --> 00:25:24,722 I find that impossible to believe. 433 00:25:24,724 --> 00:25:26,123 - You find that impossible to believe? - Yeah. 434 00:25:26,658 --> 00:25:28,792 Look, uh... 435 00:25:28,794 --> 00:25:30,060 It was the basis of your entire-- 436 00:25:30,062 --> 00:25:31,262 I was told that you were coming in here 437 00:25:31,264 --> 00:25:32,863 to talk to me 438 00:25:32,865 --> 00:25:34,598 about practicing law in Cheyenne. 439 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:34,598 Well, this is part of it. 440 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,668 Not specific elements about specific cases. Okay? 441 00:25:37,670 --> 00:25:39,136 You want that stuff? 442 00:25:39,138 --> 00:25:41,038 If you want it, you can go down to the Court, 443 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,841 there are Court records, you can take a look at all that stuff. 444 00:25:43,843 --> 00:25:44,875 Okay? It's all there for you. 445 00:25:46,244 --> 00:25:47,611 - Okay. - All right? Are we good here? 446 00:25:47,613 --> 00:25:48,679 Can we just back up a little? 447 00:25:48,681 --> 00:25:50,114 'Cause I'm good. 448 00:25:50,116 --> 00:25:51,982 I'm good. All right? Thank you very much. 449 00:25:51,984 --> 00:25:53,217 I appreciate you coming by, I really do. 450 00:25:53,219 --> 00:25:54,318 Thank you. Thank you. 451 00:26:03,962 --> 00:26:03,961 I went to the Courthouse, 452 00:26:03,963 --> 00:26:07,631 but was denied access to the records. 453 00:26:07,633 --> 00:26:09,667 I was told the documents had been sealed, 454 00:26:09,669 --> 00:26:10,901 but they couldn't tell me why. 455 00:26:21,646 --> 00:26:23,781 Investigating the loophole, however, 456 00:26:23,783 --> 00:26:24,715 was much easier. 457 00:26:28,887 --> 00:26:30,921 The Constitution is the Supreme law 458 00:26:30,923 --> 00:26:33,057 for every citizen living in the United States. 459 00:26:34,192 --> 00:26:36,126 But the Constitution that protects us 460 00:26:36,128 --> 00:26:38,128 also let a murderer go free. 461 00:26:40,732 --> 00:26:43,801 Article three, Section two of the Constitution... 462 00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:53,043 This, however, does not clarify 463 00:26:53,045 --> 00:26:54,244 where the jury should come from. 464 00:26:55,347 --> 00:26:57,381 So the sixth amendment was written, 465 00:26:57,383 --> 00:26:59,083 requiring that the jury must be... 466 00:27:06,324 --> 00:27:08,359 So based on the Constitution, 467 00:27:08,361 --> 00:27:10,194 any person charged with murder 468 00:27:10,196 --> 00:27:12,730 must be tried before a local jury 469 00:27:12,732 --> 00:27:15,132 that comes from the State and District 470 00:27:15,134 --> 00:27:16,734 in which the crime took place. 471 00:27:18,770 --> 00:27:20,871 Yellowstone National Park, 472 00:27:20,873 --> 00:27:23,374 established back in 1872, 473 00:27:23,376 --> 00:27:26,410 recognized as the first National Park in the world. 474 00:27:26,412 --> 00:27:30,314 It is predominantly situated in the north-west corner of Wyoming. 475 00:27:30,316 --> 00:27:33,183 But approximately nine percent of Yellowstone 476 00:27:33,185 --> 00:27:35,919 overflows north into Montana, 477 00:27:35,921 --> 00:27:38,122 and west into Idaho. 478 00:27:38,124 --> 00:27:40,290 The strip of the Park located in Idaho 479 00:27:40,292 --> 00:27:43,360 is where the law and civil rights collide. 480 00:27:45,397 --> 00:27:48,098 Yellowstone Park is not governed by State law. 481 00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:50,334 It is ruled under Federal law. 482 00:27:51,336 --> 00:27:53,771 So any crime committed in the Park 483 00:27:53,773 --> 00:27:56,273 must be tried at the Courthouse in Mammoth Hot Springs. 484 00:27:56,275 --> 00:27:59,043 Or in Cheyenne at the Federal District Court. 485 00:27:59,978 --> 00:28:02,012 So what does this all mean? 486 00:28:02,014 --> 00:28:05,716 The jurors must be drawn from this small strip of land 487 00:28:05,718 --> 00:28:07,818 of approximately 50 square miles. 488 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,754 There is only one problem. 489 00:28:11,823 --> 00:28:13,157 No one lives here. 490 00:28:13,992 --> 00:28:15,959 You cannot select a jury of 12 491 00:28:15,961 --> 00:28:19,763 from an area that has a population of zero. 492 00:28:33,044 --> 00:28:34,812 Hello, sir. 493 00:28:34,814 --> 00:28:36,447 Can I ask you a question? 494 00:28:36,449 --> 00:28:37,948 Sorry to interrupt you. 495 00:28:37,950 --> 00:28:39,016 I know you're in the middle of your meal there. 496 00:28:39,018 --> 00:28:40,250 But, uh... 497 00:28:41,786 --> 00:28:43,087 You or anyone from your herd 498 00:28:43,089 --> 00:28:44,321 happen to have been in the region 499 00:28:44,323 --> 00:28:45,756 where there's, uh, 500 00:28:45,758 --> 00:28:47,858 a supposed constitutional loophole, 501 00:28:47,860 --> 00:28:48,892 near the Idaho side? 502 00:28:50,128 --> 00:28:51,462 No? 503 00:28:51,464 --> 00:28:53,063 Or any of your family or associates? 504 00:28:54,299 --> 00:28:55,399 Nothing? 505 00:28:56,768 --> 00:28:58,235 Deutsch? Speak Deutsch? 506 00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:07,010 It's just right up here. 507 00:29:18,923 --> 00:29:21,125 So if these maps are right, 508 00:29:21,127 --> 00:29:23,060 I think this is pretty much the line here. 509 00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:26,864 So somewhere around here... 510 00:29:28,099 --> 00:29:30,467 Is the loophole in the Constitution. 511 00:29:31,302 --> 00:29:32,803 And somewhere around here 512 00:29:34,339 --> 00:29:36,006 is the no loophole in the Constitution. 513 00:29:37,275 --> 00:29:40,043 So the boundary is kind of right there. 514 00:29:40,045 --> 00:29:42,012 Most people, when they hear about it, 515 00:29:42,014 --> 00:29:44,448 they focus on the simple matters of the case. 516 00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:45,382 They... 517 00:29:46,251 --> 00:29:48,452 Broad strokes. 518 00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:50,521 The murders, the hole in the Constitution. 519 00:29:50,523 --> 00:29:52,122 And understandably so. 520 00:29:52,124 --> 00:29:54,291 I mean, these are the boldest parts of the case. 521 00:29:54,293 --> 00:29:56,827 But you can't, and you really shouldn't 522 00:29:56,829 --> 00:29:59,296 miss the kind of 523 00:29:59,298 --> 00:30:01,064 mind boggling things 524 00:30:01,066 --> 00:30:03,433 that happened from the murders 525 00:30:03,435 --> 00:30:05,102 up until the Court hearing. 526 00:30:05,104 --> 00:30:06,136 All right? 527 00:30:06,138 --> 00:30:07,871 Number one. 528 00:30:07,873 --> 00:30:10,440 Dwayne turns himself in voluntarily almost immediately. 529 00:30:10,442 --> 00:30:12,442 Number two... 530 00:30:12,444 --> 00:30:14,912 He confesses, within his rights, 531 00:30:14,914 --> 00:30:16,547 without representation or legal counsel. 532 00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:17,881 Number three... 533 00:30:17,883 --> 00:30:19,082 He refuses 534 00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:20,884 to plead insanity. 535 00:30:20,886 --> 00:30:22,586 Number four, he refuses to move 536 00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:25,122 the trial. 537 00:30:25,124 --> 00:30:26,390 Now if you add all those four things up, 538 00:30:26,392 --> 00:30:28,058 and he goes away for a triple homicide, 539 00:30:28,060 --> 00:30:29,593 you can say, "fine." 540 00:30:29,595 --> 00:30:32,029 But he didn't. He got away with it. 541 00:30:32,031 --> 00:30:34,097 And not because he had a fair trial, 542 00:30:34,099 --> 00:30:38,068 or there was reasonable doubt raised. 543 00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:39,837 But that there was a hole in the Constitution. 544 00:30:40,538 --> 00:30:40,537 An overlap. 545 00:30:44,008 --> 00:30:45,509 Now you consider those four things again. 546 00:30:46,544 --> 00:30:48,078 Without them, 547 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,881 he goes away for a very, very long time. 548 00:30:52,050 --> 00:30:52,049 So you're suggesting that 549 00:30:52,051 --> 00:30:56,019 Dwayne knew exactly what he was doing? 550 00:30:56,021 --> 00:30:58,322 That's exactly what I'm suggesting. 551 00:30:58,324 --> 00:31:00,324 Of course, the only person that's gonna know the answer to that 552 00:31:00,326 --> 00:31:01,992 is Dwayne. 553 00:31:01,994 --> 00:31:03,560 Why haven't there been further investigations into this? 554 00:31:03,562 --> 00:31:05,462 Well, this whole thing was swept under the rug. 555 00:31:06,497 --> 00:31:07,865 It's an embarrassment. 556 00:31:08,566 --> 00:31:10,634 A hole in the Constitution! 557 00:31:12,637 --> 00:31:15,005 No, I think the right people leaned in the right places 558 00:31:15,007 --> 00:31:16,340 to make sure that this all went away 559 00:31:16,342 --> 00:31:18,108 before it became a National uproar. 560 00:31:18,110 --> 00:31:20,377 So the Government basically helped a guilty man go free, 561 00:31:20,379 --> 00:31:21,478 is what you're saying? 562 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,647 No. I'm saying Dwayne helped himself. 563 00:31:25,016 --> 00:31:27,251 This cover up 564 00:31:27,253 --> 00:31:29,419 is just a happy consequence for him. 565 00:31:31,589 --> 00:31:34,958 When you dig into Dwayne's past, 566 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,629 you're gonna find a broken, shattered man. 567 00:31:38,631 --> 00:31:40,597 I don't know. I watched his interrogation, 568 00:31:41,232 --> 00:31:43,133 his confession. 569 00:31:43,135 --> 00:31:44,401 Was that a man on the edge, 570 00:31:44,403 --> 00:31:46,069 or a man in complete control? 571 00:31:46,071 --> 00:31:50,941 The only person who really knows what happened that day 572 00:31:51,476 --> 00:31:52,476 is Dwayne. 573 00:31:55,914 --> 00:31:58,215 I decided to head out to Williston, North Dakota, 574 00:31:58,217 --> 00:32:00,651 to see what the people of Dwayne's hometown had to say. 575 00:32:04,355 --> 00:32:06,523 Have you heard of the Yellowstone murders 576 00:32:06,525 --> 00:32:07,491 and Dwayne Nelson? 577 00:32:07,493 --> 00:32:08,458 - Yes. - Yeah. 578 00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:08,458 You have. 579 00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:11,128 Can I just ask you a quick question about them? 580 00:32:11,130 --> 00:32:12,429 - Oh, no. - No? 581 00:32:12,431 --> 00:32:13,964 We really don't wanna answer any questions. 582 00:32:13,966 --> 00:32:15,365 Okay. Thanks very much anyway. 583 00:32:24,175 --> 00:32:25,275 No, I'm really not interested. 584 00:32:25,277 --> 00:32:27,277 No? Okay, well, thank you. 585 00:32:28,379 --> 00:32:30,480 Sorry, not right now. I really must run. 586 00:32:30,482 --> 00:32:31,982 - Okay. Thank you. - Sorry. 587 00:32:37,689 --> 00:32:39,523 Ever heard of Dwayne Nelson and the Yellowstone murders? 588 00:32:39,525 --> 00:32:41,425 Uh, yeah. Sir, I don't wanna talk about that. 589 00:32:41,427 --> 00:32:43,660 Can you just answer just maybe on... no? 590 00:32:43,662 --> 00:32:44,661 Fuck! 591 00:32:48,433 --> 00:32:50,968 People in town were reluctant to speak at all. 592 00:32:52,670 --> 00:32:54,705 But those closest to Dwayne before the murders 593 00:32:54,707 --> 00:32:56,273 welcomed us with open arms. 594 00:33:11,055 --> 00:33:12,489 - Hi, Rachel? - Hi. Yeah. 595 00:33:12,491 --> 00:33:13,523 How are you? Julian. 596 00:33:13,525 --> 00:33:14,624 - Julian? Hi. - Yeah. 597 00:33:14,626 --> 00:33:15,592 This is Adam. 598 00:33:16,194 --> 00:33:16,193 Right. 599 00:33:18,696 --> 00:33:20,263 Come on in. I'll take your coat. 600 00:33:20,265 --> 00:33:21,598 Okay. Thank you very much. 601 00:33:22,567 --> 00:33:24,167 So you knew Dwayne? 602 00:33:24,169 --> 00:33:25,135 - Yeah. - Yeah? 603 00:33:25,137 --> 00:33:26,436 - Dwayne and Carol. Yeah. - Okay. 604 00:33:26,438 --> 00:33:27,738 - They were like family. - Were they? 605 00:33:27,740 --> 00:33:27,738 - Lovely couple. - Okay. 606 00:33:27,740 --> 00:33:31,141 After graduating high school late, 607 00:33:31,143 --> 00:33:32,609 Dwayne married his sweetheart, 608 00:33:32,611 --> 00:33:35,045 Carol Harson, at the age of 23. 609 00:33:37,081 --> 00:33:38,515 She met Dwayne... 610 00:33:38,517 --> 00:33:41,151 Actually we were in the car together. 611 00:33:41,153 --> 00:33:44,121 And we were going to, uh... 612 00:33:44,123 --> 00:33:46,323 To the bar and... 613 00:33:46,325 --> 00:33:48,625 It was winter and the car got stuck. 614 00:33:48,627 --> 00:33:52,362 And, um... 615 00:33:52,364 --> 00:33:56,566 I was driving, and she was out trying to push the car, 616 00:33:57,335 --> 00:33:59,136 and Dwayne came by 617 00:33:59,138 --> 00:34:01,772 and he was sort of like a knight in shining armor. 618 00:34:01,774 --> 00:34:03,740 I wasn't too sure about him at first. 619 00:34:03,742 --> 00:34:04,775 He, uh... 620 00:34:05,443 --> 00:34:07,277 He was really quiet. 621 00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:08,311 Like really quiet. 622 00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:10,814 And smart. 623 00:34:10,816 --> 00:34:12,449 But he, uh... 624 00:34:14,218 --> 00:34:16,553 He just was... 625 00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:19,156 He wasn't what I thought Carol would go for. 626 00:34:23,461 --> 00:34:24,628 He was a great family man. 627 00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:26,563 Him and Carol, they were... 628 00:34:26,565 --> 00:34:28,598 They were close, and... 629 00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:31,401 You know, I... 630 00:34:31,403 --> 00:34:33,203 He's the kind of guy that you'd wanna 631 00:34:33,205 --> 00:34:36,139 emulate, I guess, is a good word to use. 632 00:34:36,141 --> 00:34:39,342 You probably had it growing up, too, that buddy, 633 00:34:39,344 --> 00:34:41,478 you know, that you could just conversate with. 634 00:34:41,779 --> 00:34:43,280 You know? 635 00:34:43,282 --> 00:34:45,148 There was no dead space when you spoke with him. 636 00:34:46,384 --> 00:34:47,617 Oh, us going back. 637 00:34:49,220 --> 00:34:51,388 Bear took us into Yellowstone many times. 638 00:34:52,723 --> 00:34:54,091 I would... 639 00:34:54,093 --> 00:34:57,427 I would tag along when my family didn't 640 00:34:58,329 --> 00:34:59,296 want me around, 641 00:34:59,797 --> 00:35:00,797 or whatever. 642 00:35:00,799 --> 00:35:02,332 And Dwayne... 643 00:35:02,867 --> 00:35:04,768 Dwayne and Bear, 644 00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:06,603 they went in pretty much all the time. 645 00:35:06,605 --> 00:35:08,171 Sorry, "Bear"? 646 00:35:08,173 --> 00:35:09,873 Bear, his dad. He called Bear. 647 00:35:10,541 --> 00:35:11,675 Um... 648 00:35:12,543 --> 00:35:13,510 Yeah. 649 00:35:14,579 --> 00:35:16,179 Yeah. He was, uh... 650 00:35:18,784 --> 00:35:20,617 You know, sometimes you get... 651 00:35:20,619 --> 00:35:22,552 When the husband's watching TV, you know, 652 00:35:22,554 --> 00:35:24,521 the wife's always complaining. 653 00:35:24,523 --> 00:35:27,891 "He's not with us enough. He's not with us enough." Right? 654 00:35:27,893 --> 00:35:30,327 But you know, Carol, she just... 655 00:35:31,662 --> 00:35:33,463 She let him be him, 656 00:35:34,132 --> 00:35:34,898 and he let her be her. 657 00:35:37,802 --> 00:35:39,503 Five years into their marriage, 658 00:35:39,505 --> 00:35:42,172 Carol gave birth to their first child, Lily. 659 00:35:42,174 --> 00:35:45,175 However, when Lily was only six-years-old, 660 00:35:45,177 --> 00:35:47,210 there was a deadly accident in their home. 661 00:35:49,547 --> 00:35:51,314 A fire erupted in their kitchen. 662 00:35:51,316 --> 00:35:54,217 Dwayne heard his child's screams from outside, 663 00:35:54,219 --> 00:35:56,253 and ran to try to save her. 664 00:35:56,255 --> 00:35:58,255 But the fire had raged too long. 665 00:35:59,223 --> 00:35:59,222 Lily was already dead, 666 00:35:59,224 --> 00:36:04,928 and Dwayne suffered third degree burns on his hands and arms. 667 00:36:04,930 --> 00:36:08,598 It's devastating when your child dies like that. 668 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,867 I can't imagine myself, 669 00:36:11,702 --> 00:36:12,669 but for them... 670 00:36:14,372 --> 00:36:14,371 It was horrible. 671 00:36:14,373 --> 00:36:18,275 I think Carol somehow dealt with it better than Dwayne, 672 00:36:18,277 --> 00:36:19,543 in a way. 673 00:36:20,912 --> 00:36:21,945 The scars that he had, 674 00:36:23,281 --> 00:36:25,949 that was like his memory of her. 675 00:36:26,951 --> 00:36:28,885 He just shut down. 676 00:36:29,854 --> 00:36:31,555 It's remarkable, 677 00:36:31,557 --> 00:36:33,857 I think that their marriage survived that. 678 00:36:33,859 --> 00:36:37,294 Because lots of marriages don't, you know. 679 00:36:37,296 --> 00:36:39,329 When you lose a child, it's... 680 00:36:39,331 --> 00:36:41,565 It's a terrible, terrible thing. 681 00:36:45,436 --> 00:36:46,803 He was ecstatic, you know, 682 00:36:46,805 --> 00:36:48,538 when Carol became pregnant again. 683 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,208 You know? But, um... 684 00:36:51,976 --> 00:36:53,777 He was, um... 685 00:36:53,779 --> 00:36:57,214 Absolutely terrified of losing another child. 686 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,221 If that was gonna happen, you know, 687 00:37:04,223 --> 00:37:06,356 you'd want it to happen to like, 688 00:37:06,358 --> 00:37:07,724 and evil person, you know. 689 00:37:07,726 --> 00:37:08,892 But I mean, he was... 690 00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:11,695 He was one of the good guys. 691 00:37:13,531 --> 00:37:15,332 It's terrible. 692 00:37:15,334 --> 00:37:16,900 Then Carol was diagnosed with cancer. 693 00:37:18,736 --> 00:37:20,971 And she was four-and-a-half months pregnant. 694 00:37:23,808 --> 00:37:24,774 So... 695 00:37:26,010 --> 00:37:27,010 She had to make a choice. 696 00:37:31,315 --> 00:37:32,916 Take the chemotherapy and 697 00:37:34,318 --> 00:37:37,387 risk the health of her baby, or... 698 00:37:39,757 --> 00:37:39,756 Well... 699 00:37:42,827 --> 00:37:45,495 When Carol died, that was it for Dwayne. 700 00:37:48,399 --> 00:37:51,001 He still lived in town, but he practically disappeared. 701 00:37:53,871 --> 00:37:55,839 Could you tell me about how 702 00:37:55,841 --> 00:37:58,408 the death of Carol affected you 703 00:37:58,410 --> 00:37:59,643 on a personal level? 704 00:38:00,745 --> 00:38:01,978 She was my best friend. 705 00:38:03,447 --> 00:38:04,581 Um... 706 00:38:05,716 --> 00:38:06,816 And I still miss her. 707 00:38:08,619 --> 00:38:09,653 It was hard. 708 00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:13,423 Uh... 709 00:38:17,428 --> 00:38:18,728 It was hard. 710 00:38:18,730 --> 00:38:20,597 The loss is just so deep, 711 00:38:22,066 --> 00:38:25,902 that anything you say is stupid. 712 00:38:27,772 --> 00:38:30,473 You know? It's gonna get better? 713 00:38:30,475 --> 00:38:32,042 You're gonna say that to him? It's gonna get better? 714 00:38:32,044 --> 00:38:32,042 'Cause it's not gonna get better. 715 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,847 I wasn't in touch with him much, 716 00:38:37,849 --> 00:38:39,816 you know, at that time. 717 00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:40,984 But you know, that's life, right? 718 00:38:40,986 --> 00:38:42,852 I mean, people drift apart. 719 00:38:42,854 --> 00:38:43,987 That's what happens, man. 720 00:38:43,989 --> 00:38:46,790 Everybody leaves everybody in the end. 721 00:38:47,591 --> 00:38:48,625 Right? 722 00:38:48,627 --> 00:38:51,428 Uh, the baby was... 723 00:38:53,931 --> 00:38:55,432 It was not... 724 00:38:55,866 --> 00:38:57,067 Quite right. 725 00:38:57,069 --> 00:38:58,935 It was premature. 726 00:38:58,937 --> 00:39:00,437 And, uh... 727 00:39:00,439 --> 00:39:04,341 His little lungs weren't formed properly. 728 00:39:07,011 --> 00:39:07,010 It's understandable that 729 00:39:07,012 --> 00:39:11,514 such a series of tragedies would change a person. 730 00:39:12,583 --> 00:39:13,583 For him, it... 731 00:39:14,819 --> 00:39:16,353 He had to find a reason 732 00:39:17,355 --> 00:39:17,354 why these things happened. 733 00:39:17,356 --> 00:39:20,757 It was inconceivable that it could just... 734 00:39:22,660 --> 00:39:24,027 That that could just happen. 735 00:39:24,029 --> 00:39:25,795 I don't blame him for thinking that. 736 00:39:27,131 --> 00:39:30,133 What I do blame him for is what he did. 737 00:39:30,135 --> 00:39:31,935 What I blame him for is the fact that he 738 00:39:33,137 --> 00:39:34,938 sought out a way 739 00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:37,907 to punish us all 740 00:39:38,876 --> 00:39:40,844 for what he thought happened to him. 741 00:39:57,828 --> 00:40:00,630 There was no way of contacting Dwayne. 742 00:40:00,632 --> 00:40:02,399 Any numbers I managed to dig up 743 00:40:02,401 --> 00:40:03,900 rang without a machine. 744 00:40:03,902 --> 00:40:06,436 There were no email addresses, nothing. 745 00:40:07,972 --> 00:40:07,971 Through further research, 746 00:40:07,973 --> 00:40:12,008 I found a PO Box located in a small town, 747 00:40:12,010 --> 00:40:14,144 just outside of Windsor, Ontario. 748 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:16,846 He was living in Canada now. 749 00:40:18,749 --> 00:40:20,717 The more research I did, 750 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,152 the more questions were raised. 751 00:40:36,801 --> 00:40:38,568 After his wife passed, 752 00:40:38,570 --> 00:40:41,604 Dwayne spent a lot of time at the local library. 753 00:40:41,606 --> 00:40:43,973 We were all so broken up about it. 754 00:40:44,708 --> 00:40:46,943 After Carol passed, 755 00:40:46,945 --> 00:40:49,813 he never really recovered, I think. 756 00:40:51,215 --> 00:40:54,451 I didn't wanna pry too much. 757 00:40:54,453 --> 00:40:57,654 And he wasn't the kind of person who made you feel comfortable. 758 00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:00,824 He liked it here. 759 00:41:02,493 --> 00:41:04,494 He didn't talk to anybody. We just left him alone. 760 00:41:05,996 --> 00:41:07,697 Quiet. Quiet guy. 761 00:41:09,166 --> 00:41:10,834 It's a small town, 762 00:41:10,836 --> 00:41:13,102 we all go to church, and... 763 00:41:14,939 --> 00:41:18,475 I think when we found out that Dwayne had done these things, 764 00:41:18,477 --> 00:41:22,011 there was a real feeling of betrayal. 765 00:41:22,013 --> 00:41:25,181 How could somebody that was part of our community 766 00:41:25,183 --> 00:41:26,516 have gone so wrong? 767 00:41:28,786 --> 00:41:31,855 I'll tell you. It was all anyone talked about for a long time. 768 00:41:31,857 --> 00:41:34,657 But nobody really wants to talk about it anymore. 769 00:41:37,495 --> 00:41:38,995 They were three young boys, 770 00:41:38,997 --> 00:41:40,830 you know, and... 771 00:41:41,699 --> 00:41:44,501 I don't know, it's... 772 00:41:44,503 --> 00:41:48,238 I've got a lot of mixed feelings about the whole thing, obviously. 773 00:41:48,906 --> 00:41:50,006 Why would he... 774 00:41:50,574 --> 00:41:51,875 Do that? 775 00:41:51,877 --> 00:41:53,810 You know? He knows what loss is. 776 00:41:53,812 --> 00:41:55,678 Right? He knows what loss is. 777 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,214 He lost Carol, he lost Lily. 778 00:41:58,216 --> 00:42:02,886 You know, these boys, they're someone's son. 779 00:42:02,888 --> 00:42:05,288 Right? He knows what it's like to lose a child. He knows. 780 00:42:08,692 --> 00:42:08,691 I was still confused 781 00:42:08,693 --> 00:42:13,930 as to why a seemingly good natured, hard working family man 782 00:42:13,932 --> 00:42:18,668 would brutally murder David, Cody and Thomas. 783 00:42:19,870 --> 00:42:22,238 Three young men, who by all accounts, 784 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:23,907 were innocent. 785 00:42:26,277 --> 00:42:29,579 Cody, growing up, was lovely. 786 00:42:29,581 --> 00:42:34,183 He was smart and funny. 787 00:42:34,185 --> 00:42:37,654 Very, uh, very happy kid. Very open kid. 788 00:42:38,956 --> 00:42:41,691 And wonderful with other children, 789 00:42:41,693 --> 00:42:45,228 whether they were younger, older, or his own age. He was always... 790 00:42:45,230 --> 00:42:47,230 A very compassionate child. 791 00:42:47,232 --> 00:42:49,632 Thomas met Cody at... 792 00:42:50,067 --> 00:42:51,668 They were doing... 793 00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:54,237 They were both going for their Bronze Cross. 794 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,039 They were trying to be lifeguards. 795 00:42:56,041 --> 00:42:58,808 And they were both in the same... 796 00:42:58,810 --> 00:43:01,644 I think they were both in the same instructor's class. 797 00:43:01,646 --> 00:43:03,279 And they hit it off. 798 00:43:03,281 --> 00:43:07,350 And the next thing I knew, they were really good friends. 799 00:43:07,352 --> 00:43:11,187 So do you remember how David met Cody and Thomas? 800 00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:17,694 David met Cody and Thomas 801 00:43:18,295 --> 00:43:19,729 in junior high. 802 00:43:20,931 --> 00:43:22,131 He was, um... 803 00:43:23,067 --> 00:43:24,968 He was always very... 804 00:43:24,970 --> 00:43:28,905 Full of life and mischief and jokes. 805 00:43:28,907 --> 00:43:31,040 He liked to pull practical jokes on us 806 00:43:31,042 --> 00:43:33,910 and things like that. 807 00:43:33,912 --> 00:43:36,346 I caught them trying to take the canoe. 808 00:43:36,348 --> 00:43:38,014 And they didn't know how to use it, 809 00:43:38,016 --> 00:43:39,182 and they weren't wearing life jackets. 810 00:43:40,651 --> 00:43:42,218 I gave them a rather stern talking to, 811 00:43:42,220 --> 00:43:44,087 and then immediately jumped in the canoe myself 812 00:43:44,089 --> 00:43:45,855 to show 'em how to do it, 813 00:43:45,857 --> 00:43:47,624 and capsized the canoe. 814 00:43:47,626 --> 00:43:50,660 That's probably the... 815 00:43:50,662 --> 00:43:52,929 That's probably the most I've ever seen Cody laugh. 816 00:44:11,949 --> 00:44:13,716 The very nature of a documentary 817 00:44:13,718 --> 00:44:15,685 is truth and reality. 818 00:44:15,687 --> 00:44:17,320 But what truth are you presenting? 819 00:44:17,322 --> 00:44:20,757 A murderer's, a Judge's, your own? 820 00:44:20,759 --> 00:44:22,191 It's a perception of the truth. 821 00:44:22,193 --> 00:44:23,660 What was the real story? 822 00:44:23,662 --> 00:44:23,660 What really happened? 823 00:44:23,662 --> 00:44:27,897 There was no doubt that Dwayne's story was heartbreaking. 824 00:44:32,036 --> 00:44:34,437 There was an unrelenting feeling that something was missing. 825 00:44:36,106 --> 00:44:38,341 It wasn't that everything didn't add up. 826 00:44:38,343 --> 00:44:40,109 It added up too perfectly. 827 00:44:52,322 --> 00:44:55,725 Yeah, roll it, man. It's fine. Yeah. 828 00:44:55,727 --> 00:44:57,894 - Just come over here for a minute and watch this. - Okay. What you got? 829 00:44:57,896 --> 00:44:59,162 I want you to see this, man. 830 00:45:00,431 --> 00:45:00,430 Look at this. 831 00:45:00,432 --> 00:45:00,430 When did they start going up there? 832 00:45:00,432 --> 00:45:06,202 I think Cody and Thomas were going out there 833 00:45:06,204 --> 00:45:08,371 for a few years before David joined them. 834 00:45:10,107 --> 00:45:12,408 Did David spend much time in Yellowstone on his own? 835 00:45:12,410 --> 00:45:15,111 No, he didn't. I mean, not to our knowledge. 836 00:45:15,113 --> 00:45:17,914 No, he wasn't the outdoors-man that Cody was. 837 00:45:17,916 --> 00:45:20,450 In Dwayne's confession he states that it was David 838 00:45:20,452 --> 00:45:22,351 who suggested the site that they moved to. 839 00:45:24,455 --> 00:45:25,955 I remember that, but... 840 00:45:27,091 --> 00:45:28,157 Like I told Patrick, 841 00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:29,358 that had to be a mistake. 842 00:45:30,194 --> 00:45:31,894 Cody must have suggested it. 843 00:45:31,896 --> 00:45:33,329 I mean, our boy wouldn't have known to go to that spot. 844 00:45:35,332 --> 00:45:36,399 See? 845 00:45:36,401 --> 00:45:38,234 Dwayne specifically said 846 00:45:38,236 --> 00:45:40,403 that it was David who suggested that site. 847 00:45:40,405 --> 00:45:42,238 I mean, we've got the-- 848 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:44,006 you know, he could have gotten the name wrong. 849 00:45:44,008 --> 00:45:45,808 Yeah, then he might not have as well. 850 00:45:47,277 --> 00:45:50,079 I've got the confession right here. 851 00:45:50,081 --> 00:45:53,816 A transcript of the exact confession that Dwayne says, 852 00:45:53,818 --> 00:45:57,053 "I was gathering to leave when Dave suggested something a little different. 853 00:45:59,089 --> 00:45:59,088 About an hour..." And blah, blah, blah. 854 00:45:59,090 --> 00:46:03,926 "...that Dave stumbled across a large area of these on previous trips." 855 00:46:05,329 --> 00:46:07,096 "Dave suggested something a little different." 856 00:46:07,098 --> 00:46:07,096 - That's what Dwayne said. - Okay. 857 00:46:07,098 --> 00:46:10,800 And everything Dwayne says is so precise 858 00:46:11,869 --> 00:46:13,402 and so specific. 859 00:46:13,404 --> 00:46:15,138 So, wait. You're thinking there's a connection 860 00:46:15,140 --> 00:46:16,539 between Dwayne and Dave? 861 00:46:16,541 --> 00:46:18,207 A motive? 862 00:46:18,209 --> 00:46:19,408 I'm just thinking that 863 00:46:19,410 --> 00:46:22,211 everything so far is so clean and so clear, 864 00:46:23,213 --> 00:46:24,781 and this is really the only whisper 865 00:46:24,783 --> 00:46:26,082 of something that doesn't compute. 866 00:46:31,054 --> 00:46:34,290 So what are we doing at 6:27 A.M.? 867 00:46:34,292 --> 00:46:36,325 We got a call from Theresa Fitzgerald. 868 00:46:37,194 --> 00:46:38,928 The librarian? 869 00:46:38,930 --> 00:46:40,263 The librarian. 870 00:46:41,932 --> 00:46:46,169 She received a visit last night as she was closing up, 871 00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:48,004 from Dwayne Nelson. 872 00:46:50,507 --> 00:46:53,943 Theresa hasn't spoken to anyone in years and years. 873 00:46:53,945 --> 00:46:55,278 And we go to visit her, 874 00:46:56,446 --> 00:46:59,148 and a few days later, suddenly Dwayne shows up? 875 00:47:00,551 --> 00:47:01,918 You think he's following us? 876 00:47:03,053 --> 00:47:04,554 Well, obviously he knows about us 877 00:47:04,556 --> 00:47:06,389 and he's worried about something. 878 00:47:06,391 --> 00:47:08,024 He definitely worried about something. 879 00:47:10,894 --> 00:47:12,895 I don't know if there's that much to tell. 880 00:47:15,332 --> 00:47:17,934 So did you feel threatened at all when he came in? 881 00:47:17,936 --> 00:47:19,001 Oh, no. 882 00:47:19,003 --> 00:47:20,269 No, he's very polite. 883 00:47:20,271 --> 00:47:22,338 It was just a shock. 884 00:47:22,340 --> 00:47:24,473 But he did ask you if you'd been talking to anyone? 885 00:47:24,475 --> 00:47:24,473 Yeah, he did. 886 00:47:24,475 --> 00:47:28,444 And I told him about the documentary, 887 00:47:28,446 --> 00:47:32,348 but after all, I only really talked about Carol when you interviewed me. 888 00:47:34,117 --> 00:47:35,518 See, what's weird is that 889 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,054 I've contacted everyone we interviewed, 890 00:47:38,056 --> 00:47:40,857 and Dwayne hasn't tried to get a hold of any of them. 891 00:47:40,859 --> 00:47:43,359 So I'm wondering what I'm missing here. 892 00:47:45,195 --> 00:47:46,495 I don't know. 893 00:47:46,497 --> 00:47:48,531 I don't know if there's anything more to tell. 894 00:47:48,533 --> 00:47:51,267 He came in in the morning, left at night. 895 00:47:51,269 --> 00:47:52,535 I told him he could... 896 00:47:53,303 --> 00:47:55,571 Sign out anything he wanted, 897 00:47:55,573 --> 00:47:58,274 but he said he preferred to be in the library. 898 00:47:58,276 --> 00:48:00,643 Was that to be closer to his wife, do you think? 899 00:48:00,645 --> 00:48:03,546 - Oh, I assumed so. - Yeah? 900 00:48:03,548 --> 00:48:05,615 The only other people spent that much time here 901 00:48:05,617 --> 00:48:07,884 are students doing research. 902 00:48:08,318 --> 00:48:09,318 Right. 903 00:48:12,189 --> 00:48:14,190 Did he ever take any of the books home that he was reading? 904 00:48:14,458 --> 00:48:15,892 Uh, nope. 905 00:48:15,894 --> 00:48:17,260 Not that I can remember. 906 00:48:17,262 --> 00:48:18,928 And if you don't check a book out, 907 00:48:18,930 --> 00:48:20,396 is there any record of what you've been reading? 908 00:48:21,031 --> 00:48:22,665 No, of course not. 909 00:48:22,667 --> 00:48:24,367 Do you have any idea what he was reading? 910 00:48:25,435 --> 00:48:27,603 Like I said, he just sat in the back. 911 00:48:29,473 --> 00:48:30,640 Where was that again? 912 00:48:30,642 --> 00:48:31,941 Over in the corner there. 913 00:48:31,943 --> 00:48:31,941 Okay. 914 00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:37,914 Why did Dwayne come back now? 915 00:48:38,548 --> 00:48:40,082 According to Theresa, 916 00:48:40,084 --> 00:48:40,082 he stopped visiting the library 917 00:48:40,084 --> 00:48:43,252 about a year before he committed the murders, 918 00:48:43,254 --> 00:48:45,187 and had never been back since. 919 00:48:46,089 --> 00:48:47,490 So what was he doing here? 920 00:48:49,293 --> 00:48:51,394 The answer was staring me in the face. 921 00:48:52,162 --> 00:48:53,663 Adam... 922 00:48:55,699 --> 00:48:57,967 Something so obvious, 923 00:48:57,969 --> 00:48:59,368 I'd missed it on the first visit. 924 00:49:03,707 --> 00:49:03,706 Of course he was looking at the law books, man. 925 00:49:03,708 --> 00:49:07,944 What else are you gonna do in your local library law section? 926 00:49:07,946 --> 00:49:09,712 You don't go to the library, 927 00:49:09,714 --> 00:49:12,214 hoping to find an overlap in the Constitution. 928 00:49:12,216 --> 00:49:14,483 I mean, one that will allow you to get way with murder? 929 00:49:14,485 --> 00:49:16,252 No, you don't. 930 00:49:16,254 --> 00:49:18,120 But he must have known about this loophole beforehand. 931 00:49:19,256 --> 00:49:20,423 Otherwise, it's just what he says. 932 00:49:20,425 --> 00:49:22,224 It's a bunch of, you know, coincidences 933 00:49:22,226 --> 00:49:23,592 that let a guilty man go free. 934 00:49:23,594 --> 00:49:25,728 But, Julian, there are a ton of cases 935 00:49:25,730 --> 00:49:28,564 where people have gotten off on ridiculous technicalities. 936 00:49:28,566 --> 00:49:30,266 Yeah, but if we find a motive, 937 00:49:30,268 --> 00:49:32,635 then we can prove Dwayne orchestrated the entire thing. 938 00:49:32,637 --> 00:49:34,370 Presuming there's one to be found. 939 00:49:37,274 --> 00:49:39,108 It's like what Matcek said, man. 940 00:49:40,143 --> 00:49:42,345 It's not a guy who's crazy. 941 00:49:42,347 --> 00:49:43,713 He's in complete control. 942 00:49:45,015 --> 00:49:47,483 Patrick, sorry to bother you again, 943 00:49:47,485 --> 00:49:50,386 but I just got back from the Williston Library, 944 00:49:50,388 --> 00:49:53,389 and it seems Dwayne was just there. 945 00:49:53,391 --> 00:49:56,325 I also found out that Dwayne spent a lot of time there 946 00:49:56,327 --> 00:49:58,327 before the murders, in the law section. 947 00:49:59,564 --> 00:50:01,497 I mean, he was looking at law books. 948 00:50:01,499 --> 00:50:03,032 He was doing research there. 949 00:50:03,034 --> 00:50:05,167 Doesn't that indicate some sort of premeditation, 950 00:50:05,169 --> 00:50:07,236 or a motive, or something suspicious? 951 00:50:16,213 --> 00:50:17,380 Okay, but he comes out of hiding, 952 00:50:17,382 --> 00:50:19,048 and he goes directly back to the library? 953 00:50:19,050 --> 00:50:20,449 Isn't that also suspicious? 954 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,061 Okay, no. Patrick, I get that. 955 00:50:32,063 --> 00:50:33,462 But can I just ask you another question here? 956 00:50:38,035 --> 00:50:39,435 There had to be a motive. 957 00:50:39,437 --> 00:50:43,072 There had to be a link between Dwayne and one of the boys. 958 00:50:43,074 --> 00:50:44,640 I kept coming back to David Drabeck. 959 00:50:45,675 --> 00:50:45,674 According to Dwayne, 960 00:50:45,676 --> 00:50:50,746 he was the one that took them all to the so called "zone of death." 961 00:50:50,748 --> 00:50:52,782 I hope David's mother might have some answers. 962 00:50:54,084 --> 00:50:55,718 Any connection maybe through construction? 963 00:51:08,732 --> 00:51:11,133 One more quick question. 964 00:51:11,135 --> 00:51:14,804 Um, did David ever go to North Dakota for any reason? 965 00:51:14,806 --> 00:51:16,572 Have any friends or family up there? 966 00:51:30,620 --> 00:51:32,455 And who are we talking about, Mrs. Drabeck? 967 00:51:46,736 --> 00:51:47,837 What was her name? 968 00:51:52,742 --> 00:51:54,643 Mrs. Drabeck, would you be able 969 00:51:54,645 --> 00:51:56,212 to send me that letter, do you think? 970 00:51:57,481 --> 00:52:00,249 Earlier today, I got this letter from Nancy Drabeck. 971 00:52:01,151 --> 00:52:03,219 She sent me the letter 972 00:52:03,221 --> 00:52:05,121 that Kayleigh Brighton sent her 973 00:52:05,123 --> 00:52:06,322 now Kayleigh Brighton... 974 00:52:08,492 --> 00:52:11,160 Is not a photographer. Kayleigh Brighton... 975 00:52:11,162 --> 00:52:13,329 Is an Environmental Biologist, 976 00:52:14,831 --> 00:52:18,501 at a University that happens to be right above North Dakota. 977 00:52:18,503 --> 00:52:20,903 Come around here, man. Check this out. 978 00:52:20,905 --> 00:52:23,439 I typed in Kayleigh's address earlier today. 979 00:52:24,574 --> 00:52:28,344 And she lives right above Regina, Saskatchewan. 980 00:52:29,379 --> 00:52:31,747 The three boys are from Rapid City. 981 00:52:32,415 --> 00:52:34,483 Check out this route. 982 00:52:34,485 --> 00:52:36,318 Look at that. Right in the middle. 983 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,621 Williston, Dwayne's hometown, right where we are. 984 00:52:41,324 --> 00:52:42,725 You're ready for a road trip, buddy? 985 00:52:46,429 --> 00:52:48,564 What are you hoping to find? 986 00:52:48,566 --> 00:52:51,667 There's a missing link between Dave and Dwayne. 987 00:52:51,669 --> 00:52:53,569 And I know this girl's got some answers for us. 988 00:52:53,571 --> 00:52:55,371 Do you realize how ridiculous this sounds? 989 00:52:55,373 --> 00:52:57,206 This one girl? 990 00:52:57,208 --> 00:52:59,308 And what does this have to do with Dwayne and Dave anyways? 991 00:52:59,310 --> 00:53:00,643 Well, you saw the map. 992 00:53:00,645 --> 00:53:02,511 And I've just got a good feeling about it. 993 00:53:02,513 --> 00:53:03,779 What do you think she'll tell you? 994 00:53:05,315 --> 00:53:06,782 I have no idea, man. 995 00:53:08,518 --> 00:53:10,486 But I have three hours and 26 minutes to figure it out. 996 00:53:11,755 --> 00:53:13,255 She knows something. 997 00:53:51,962 --> 00:53:53,629 I can't see anything in there. 998 00:53:54,664 --> 00:53:55,831 Whoa. 999 00:53:55,833 --> 00:53:57,299 It's a fucking pig, man. 1000 00:53:58,802 --> 00:53:59,935 Look at this. 1001 00:54:02,539 --> 00:54:05,407 Hey man, we're looking for Kayleigh Brighton, actually. 1002 00:54:07,911 --> 00:54:09,612 What's the camera for? 1003 00:54:09,614 --> 00:54:12,348 Well, we're just hoping to talk to Kayleigh here for a second. 1004 00:54:12,350 --> 00:54:13,649 What do you wanna talk to my wife for? 1005 00:54:13,651 --> 00:54:15,317 Listen, man, we drove a long way. 1006 00:54:15,319 --> 00:54:17,519 I'm just wondering if I could talk to Kayleigh for a second. 1007 00:54:17,521 --> 00:54:18,721 Shut your camera off. 1008 00:54:18,723 --> 00:54:20,923 Okay. But is she here? Is she... she your wife? 1009 00:54:20,925 --> 00:54:21,991 - Shut your camera off. - Hey, man. 1010 00:54:21,993 --> 00:54:23,359 Listen. Hey, hey, buddy. Hey. 1011 00:54:23,361 --> 00:54:24,560 It's up to her, you understand? 1012 00:54:24,562 --> 00:54:26,428 Okay, buddy. 1013 00:54:26,430 --> 00:54:28,330 I don't want you going up there shoving a camera in her face. 1014 00:54:28,332 --> 00:54:30,399 Also, you know, when you go up there, you make sure that camera's off. 1015 00:54:32,302 --> 00:54:33,902 I'm sorry what happened to the guys. 1016 00:54:33,904 --> 00:54:35,771 But the thing is we don't have the Internet here. 1017 00:54:35,773 --> 00:54:39,275 We didn't. So I just heard about it on the radio. 1018 00:54:39,277 --> 00:54:40,676 That's how we heard about it. 1019 00:54:40,678 --> 00:54:42,378 - Right. - But we... 1020 00:54:42,380 --> 00:54:44,947 My parents let me know. And it was a tragedy. 1021 00:54:44,949 --> 00:54:47,650 Definitely devastating. 1022 00:54:47,652 --> 00:54:50,686 I mean, I just can't believe that happened. 1023 00:54:50,688 --> 00:54:52,621 Yeah, it's a real shock I'm sure, to hear that 1024 00:54:52,623 --> 00:54:53,856 - about a friend. - Yeah. 1025 00:54:53,858 --> 00:54:55,324 So, okay. 1026 00:54:55,326 --> 00:54:56,959 You got me alone. 1027 00:54:56,961 --> 00:54:58,827 I don't even know what you're looking for though. 1028 00:54:58,829 --> 00:55:00,629 I mean, to be honest, I don't know what I'm looking for either. 1029 00:55:00,631 --> 00:55:01,930 I'm just chasing every lead. 1030 00:55:02,866 --> 00:55:05,334 But you have no idea 1031 00:55:05,969 --> 00:55:07,536 about who Dwayne is, or... 1032 00:55:07,538 --> 00:55:09,738 No, I have no idea. I'm sorry. 1033 00:55:09,740 --> 00:55:11,473 With, um... 1034 00:55:11,475 --> 00:55:14,043 With David, we worked at camp together, 1035 00:55:14,045 --> 00:55:14,043 we hung out with the same friends. 1036 00:55:14,045 --> 00:55:19,481 And I might have been with him for 10 days total. 1037 00:55:19,483 --> 00:55:21,750 And you guys never had a relationship or anything like that? 1038 00:55:21,752 --> 00:55:24,086 No, we were just friends, that's it. 1039 00:56:05,562 --> 00:56:07,029 All right, Julian, let's get you miked up. 1040 00:56:07,597 --> 00:56:08,664 Here you go. 1041 00:56:11,501 --> 00:56:12,768 What are you doing with this? 1042 00:56:12,770 --> 00:56:13,836 I watched this a bunch of times. 1043 00:56:13,838 --> 00:56:16,004 I know there's something... 1044 00:56:16,006 --> 00:56:17,706 She's like-- 1045 00:56:17,708 --> 00:56:18,974 She's hiding something for sure. 1046 00:56:18,976 --> 00:56:20,376 Dude, you're reaching, man. 1047 00:56:20,378 --> 00:56:21,744 Everything checks out. 1048 00:56:24,548 --> 00:56:26,548 It's off, man. Something's wrong with this. 1049 00:56:26,550 --> 00:56:28,584 Come on, man. It's a dead end. You know it is. 1050 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,387 Here, take this. We got work to do. 1051 00:56:35,759 --> 00:56:38,827 Sometimes, when you're searching for something so hard, 1052 00:56:38,829 --> 00:56:40,696 you'll connect the dots with wavy lines 1053 00:56:40,698 --> 00:56:42,998 and convince yourself they're straight. 1054 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,933 Sometimes they just don't connect at all. 1055 00:56:50,140 --> 00:56:51,974 There's Patrick right there. 1056 00:56:59,749 --> 00:57:01,483 - How you doing? - Okay, good. You? 1057 00:57:01,485 --> 00:57:02,751 Listen... 1058 00:57:02,753 --> 00:57:04,686 Could I see those case files for a moment? 1059 00:57:04,688 --> 00:57:06,121 I can't give you those case files. 1060 00:57:06,123 --> 00:57:07,923 I could look at them in your office if you want, even. 1061 00:57:07,925 --> 00:57:09,892 I'm sorry, but they're private files. 1062 00:57:09,894 --> 00:57:11,827 I know they're private files, Patrick. 1063 00:57:11,829 --> 00:57:13,729 - But could I just look at them, maybe for a second? - Sorry, I'm late. 1064 00:57:13,731 --> 00:57:13,729 I know there's something in there, man. 1065 00:57:13,731 --> 00:57:17,666 Patrick, maybe I can schedule something with your assistant? 1066 00:57:18,669 --> 00:57:19,768 Patrick! 1067 00:57:35,785 --> 00:57:39,521 I had actually accomplished what I had originally set out to do, 1068 00:57:39,523 --> 00:57:41,523 which was to document this bizarre murder case. 1069 00:57:43,526 --> 00:57:44,793 My opinions had changed, 1070 00:57:44,795 --> 00:57:46,695 but a theory is just speculation. 1071 00:57:50,133 --> 00:57:51,900 Without proof, 1072 00:57:51,902 --> 00:57:52,968 without an interview, 1073 00:57:52,970 --> 00:57:54,970 without any shred of motive, 1074 00:57:54,972 --> 00:57:57,739 I was left staring at the obvious. 1075 00:57:57,741 --> 00:57:59,741 This was simply a freak occurrence, 1076 00:57:59,743 --> 00:58:01,009 nothing more. 1077 00:58:11,254 --> 00:58:12,688 Adam? 1078 00:58:16,659 --> 00:58:18,126 - Adam. - What? 1079 00:58:18,128 --> 00:58:19,728 Look at this. We got a package, man. 1080 00:58:19,730 --> 00:58:20,996 - Wake up. - What is it? 1081 00:58:21,731 --> 00:58:22,931 Wake up. Come on. 1082 00:58:22,933 --> 00:58:24,233 Come on, I'm trying to sleep. 1083 00:58:24,767 --> 00:58:25,934 Take this. 1084 00:58:25,936 --> 00:58:27,569 Adam, here. Come on. 1085 00:58:27,571 --> 00:58:29,071 Take the camera. Let's go. 1086 00:58:29,539 --> 00:58:30,739 Come on. 1087 00:58:32,141 --> 00:58:33,742 - You rolling. - It's rolling. 1088 00:58:42,785 --> 00:58:43,852 There's nothing in this. 1089 00:58:43,854 --> 00:58:44,887 It's a joke? 1090 00:58:59,903 --> 00:59:01,036 Do you have a phone on you? 1091 00:59:01,771 --> 00:59:02,905 I do. 1092 00:59:20,823 --> 00:59:22,124 There's two videos here. 1093 00:59:29,999 --> 00:59:31,266 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 1094 00:59:34,704 --> 00:59:36,271 I wanna get one with all of you. 1095 00:59:37,774 --> 00:59:38,974 All right. Come on, you guys. 1096 00:59:38,976 --> 00:59:40,242 - Yeah? - Yeah. 1097 00:59:40,244 --> 00:59:41,677 Oh. 1098 00:59:41,679 --> 00:59:42,945 This is something. 1099 00:59:42,947 --> 00:59:42,945 - Good? - Yeah, great. 1100 00:59:42,947 --> 00:59:46,081 It's the annual Yellowstone Boys' Weekend. 1101 00:59:46,616 --> 00:59:47,983 All right? 1102 00:59:50,253 --> 00:59:51,620 Wild. 1103 00:59:53,356 --> 00:59:54,923 Who the fuck got this? 1104 01:00:12,809 --> 01:00:13,875 Ooh! 1105 01:00:26,356 --> 01:00:27,789 Holy shit. 1106 01:00:34,864 --> 01:00:36,031 No, no, no. 1107 01:00:36,033 --> 01:00:37,132 No, no! 1108 01:00:38,135 --> 01:00:39,101 Holy fuck! 1109 01:00:46,109 --> 01:00:48,076 Ad, who the fuck dropped this off, man? 1110 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:52,314 Let's figure this out. 1111 01:01:02,392 --> 01:01:05,260 Here. Right here. 1112 01:01:05,262 --> 01:01:07,162 Let's go down to the front desk... 1113 01:01:17,106 --> 01:01:18,774 - Hello, sir. - Hi. 1114 01:01:18,776 --> 01:01:20,308 - How are you? - I'm good. 1115 01:01:20,310 --> 01:01:21,710 Can I ask a big favor of you? 1116 01:01:22,445 --> 01:01:24,012 There. 1117 01:01:24,014 --> 01:01:25,681 - So this is this morning? - Yeah. 1118 01:01:25,683 --> 01:01:27,883 Okay. That's 5:15. 1119 01:01:27,885 --> 01:01:30,018 - Yeah, there he is. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1120 01:01:30,020 --> 01:01:31,753 He's gonna come out over there. 1121 01:01:34,691 --> 01:01:35,891 See? 1122 01:01:36,826 --> 01:01:37,959 And this is my door here? 1123 01:01:37,961 --> 01:01:39,094 Yeah. 1124 01:01:39,096 --> 01:01:40,429 That's Number 15. 1125 01:01:46,302 --> 01:01:47,469 Who the fuck is that? 1126 01:01:55,812 --> 01:01:57,279 You don't have any other-- 1127 01:01:57,281 --> 01:01:58,847 nothing where we can see someone's face? 1128 01:01:58,849 --> 01:02:01,249 You might catch his face on the other... 1129 01:02:03,019 --> 01:02:04,186 Who is that? 1130 01:02:06,355 --> 01:02:07,823 Is it Dwayne? 1131 01:02:19,335 --> 01:02:20,769 All right. This good? 1132 01:02:20,771 --> 01:02:20,769 Yeah, it's great. 1133 01:02:20,771 --> 01:02:24,306 I watched the videos for two days straight, 1134 01:02:24,308 --> 01:02:25,974 and I didn't catch anything. 1135 01:02:27,376 --> 01:02:30,345 But then, anything in life can be fascinating 1136 01:02:30,347 --> 01:02:32,013 when you delve into the details. 1137 01:02:37,453 --> 01:02:39,187 The director, 1138 01:02:40,189 --> 01:02:41,356 the crew. 1139 01:02:43,493 --> 01:02:45,293 Kraft services... 1140 01:02:48,865 --> 01:02:51,500 And beautiful America. 1141 01:02:53,035 --> 01:02:54,536 Come here. 1142 01:02:54,538 --> 01:02:56,204 - Come here. - What do you need? 1143 01:02:56,206 --> 01:02:58,073 Set up the camera over here and look at this. 1144 01:02:58,075 --> 01:02:59,274 All right, all right, hold on. 1145 01:03:01,077 --> 01:03:02,377 - Quit fucking around. - I'm coming, dude. 1146 01:03:02,379 --> 01:03:03,945 Put that down and look at this. Check it out. 1147 01:03:05,548 --> 01:03:06,982 You gotta see this. 1148 01:03:06,984 --> 01:03:08,850 Yeah. All right. What am I looking at? 1149 01:03:08,852 --> 01:03:10,152 Just leave that alone for now-- 1150 01:03:10,154 --> 01:03:10,152 Yes, yes. 1151 01:03:10,154 --> 01:03:14,256 Look at this, look at this. You gotta see this. 1152 01:03:14,258 --> 01:03:16,792 - What am I supposed to be looking at? - What's that? 1153 01:03:16,794 --> 01:03:18,260 - See that logo right there? - Yeah, on his jacket. 1154 01:03:18,262 --> 01:03:19,494 - Yeah, have you seen that before? - No. 1155 01:03:19,496 --> 01:03:20,896 You've seen that before. 1156 01:03:20,898 --> 01:03:21,930 - Okay. - Look. 1157 01:03:23,466 --> 01:03:25,333 At Dwayne's house, which is right here... 1158 01:03:25,335 --> 01:03:26,802 Look at this. 1159 01:03:31,541 --> 01:03:34,142 What's that right there? That's the same logo. 1160 01:03:34,144 --> 01:03:35,343 Yeah, what's that? 1161 01:03:35,345 --> 01:03:36,511 That's a water filtration system 1162 01:03:36,513 --> 01:03:38,280 that every house in this area has. 1163 01:03:38,282 --> 01:03:39,915 It's the same company, man. 1164 01:03:39,917 --> 01:03:41,383 - It's ENRG. Look at this. - Whoa, whoa. 1165 01:03:41,385 --> 01:03:44,219 "ENRG." 1166 01:03:44,420 --> 01:03:45,587 So? 1167 01:03:45,589 --> 01:03:47,355 That's the same company, man. ENRG. 1168 01:03:47,357 --> 01:03:48,456 It's a fracking company. 1169 01:03:50,860 --> 01:03:54,896 Jesus! That's Cody's dad, man. 1170 01:03:54,898 --> 01:03:56,198 We might have just found the motive. 1171 01:04:02,305 --> 01:04:03,505 Raymond fucking Gibbs. 1172 01:04:04,540 --> 01:04:05,574 Wait, wait, wait. 1173 01:04:07,109 --> 01:04:09,344 The CEO of ENRG, USA 1174 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:11,279 We were looking at the wrong guy the whole time. 1175 01:04:11,281 --> 01:04:16,484 The City of Williston has avoided the current economic crisis 1176 01:04:16,486 --> 01:04:18,153 due largely to the success 1177 01:04:18,155 --> 01:04:20,422 of an old fashioned oil boom. 1178 01:04:20,424 --> 01:04:22,524 Improvements in drilling technology 1179 01:04:22,526 --> 01:04:25,293 have introduced the process of hydraulic fracturing, 1180 01:04:25,295 --> 01:04:27,362 otherwise known as "fracking." 1181 01:04:27,364 --> 01:04:30,332 It's a controversial process, 1182 01:04:30,334 --> 01:04:32,534 but it's used in abundance in North Dakota, 1183 01:04:32,536 --> 01:04:35,303 specifically in Williston. 1184 01:04:35,305 --> 01:04:37,505 Fracking is a destructive process 1185 01:04:37,507 --> 01:04:40,008 that is used to extract natural gas 1186 01:04:40,010 --> 01:04:42,043 from rock that lies deep underground. 1187 01:04:43,613 --> 01:04:45,280 A well is drilled, 1188 01:04:45,282 --> 01:04:47,616 and millions of gallons of toxic fluid 1189 01:04:47,618 --> 01:04:49,217 is injected. 1190 01:04:49,219 --> 01:04:52,287 A mix of water, sand and chemicals, 1191 01:04:52,289 --> 01:04:54,456 at a high enough pressure to fracture the rock 1192 01:04:54,458 --> 01:04:55,891 and release the gas. 1193 01:04:57,059 --> 01:04:58,593 Fracking is currently exempt 1194 01:04:58,595 --> 01:05:00,662 from major environmental laws, 1195 01:05:00,664 --> 01:05:03,431 including the Safe Drinking Water Act. 1196 01:05:03,433 --> 01:05:07,602 Toxic spills and gas leaks are far too common. 1197 01:05:07,604 --> 01:05:10,105 It's a process that destroys our land 1198 01:05:10,107 --> 01:05:11,940 and puts us all at risk. 1199 01:05:13,676 --> 01:05:15,944 I recently filmed a documentary 1200 01:05:15,946 --> 01:05:17,579 "Trouble in the Peace". 1201 01:05:17,581 --> 01:05:20,282 In it, I examined this very same issue 1202 01:05:20,284 --> 01:05:24,319 in a small farming town in northern British Columbia. 1203 01:05:24,321 --> 01:05:27,155 A single father's struggles to protect his daughter 1204 01:05:27,157 --> 01:05:28,623 from the dangers that a fracking company 1205 01:05:28,625 --> 01:05:29,958 have brought to his community. 1206 01:05:30,927 --> 01:05:32,427 It's difficult. And yeah, 1207 01:05:32,429 --> 01:05:34,329 sometimes it's really discouraging 1208 01:05:34,331 --> 01:05:35,463 and we think... 1209 01:05:37,033 --> 01:05:38,533 Why bother anymore? 1210 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,442 And it's... I don't know. I don't wanna be a coward. 1211 01:06:10,599 --> 01:06:13,034 Dwayne Nelson's daughter died 1212 01:06:13,036 --> 01:06:15,403 from an unexplained fire in the kitchen sink. 1213 01:06:16,539 --> 01:06:18,974 Dwayne's wife developed cancer 1214 01:06:18,976 --> 01:06:22,644 after receiving a clean bill of health a year and a half earlier. 1215 01:06:22,646 --> 01:06:25,380 Dwayne's son was born with several birth defects, 1216 01:06:25,382 --> 01:06:28,049 likely caused by harmful chemicals ingested 1217 01:06:28,051 --> 01:06:29,284 during pregnancy. 1218 01:06:30,386 --> 01:06:32,988 Was all this just a coincidence? 1219 01:06:32,990 --> 01:06:36,057 Or were these murders an elaborate act 1220 01:06:36,059 --> 01:06:37,392 of revenge? 1221 01:06:44,734 --> 01:06:46,301 Please enter your password. 1222 01:06:48,672 --> 01:06:50,271 - Still rolling? - Rolling. 1223 01:06:51,140 --> 01:06:53,241 You have one saved message. 1224 01:06:53,243 --> 01:06:54,376 Okay, get this. 1225 01:06:54,378 --> 01:06:55,677 To review your messages-- 1226 01:06:56,445 --> 01:06:58,380 first saved message. 1227 01:07:08,691 --> 01:07:10,358 End of message. 1228 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,194 To replay this message, press one. 1229 01:07:17,166 --> 01:07:19,167 Isn't there some kind of law that's protecting him? 1230 01:07:19,169 --> 01:07:20,769 Like a double jeopardy or something like that? 1231 01:07:26,308 --> 01:07:27,509 What's "empanelled" mean? 1232 01:07:34,383 --> 01:07:36,151 But with a motive, then-- 1233 01:07:49,265 --> 01:07:50,331 Holy shit. Okay. 1234 01:07:55,271 --> 01:07:57,672 Yeah, unless he gave us that footage out of guilt, 1235 01:07:57,674 --> 01:07:59,174 and he wants to confess. 1236 01:08:06,482 --> 01:08:08,216 Okay, thanks a lot, Patrick, I appreciate it. 1237 01:08:08,218 --> 01:08:09,451 Like hell. 1238 01:08:09,453 --> 01:08:11,119 What do you mean? 1239 01:08:11,121 --> 01:08:13,521 Like hell we're gonna give the footage to the authorities 1240 01:08:13,523 --> 01:08:15,824 - and let them handle-- - we're gonna give the footage to the authorities. 1241 01:08:16,292 --> 01:08:17,392 "We" who? 1242 01:08:17,394 --> 01:08:19,227 Us. You and I. 1243 01:08:19,229 --> 01:08:20,662 We're gonna do the Dwayne interview 1244 01:08:20,664 --> 01:08:22,163 because we have the opportunity to do it. 1245 01:08:22,165 --> 01:08:23,631 If you do this, I'm walking. 1246 01:08:23,633 --> 01:08:25,733 But we're here to do the Dwayne interview. 1247 01:08:25,735 --> 01:08:27,602 That's the whole point of this story. 1248 01:08:27,604 --> 01:08:29,404 Get the fuck out of my way. 1249 01:08:30,406 --> 01:08:31,873 Fuck off. 1250 01:08:31,875 --> 01:08:34,509 - Come on, soldier. - Yeah, yeah. This is insane, dude. 1251 01:08:34,511 --> 01:08:35,610 What do you mean this is insane? 1252 01:08:35,612 --> 01:08:36,811 This is what we came here for, man. 1253 01:08:36,813 --> 01:08:38,646 Do you realize the guy is following us, 1254 01:08:38,648 --> 01:08:40,448 and he's a murderer? 1255 01:08:40,450 --> 01:08:42,217 We came here with a purpose. 1256 01:08:42,219 --> 01:08:43,718 We are following a story. 1257 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:44,853 A purpose to stay alive. 1258 01:08:44,855 --> 01:08:46,488 You heard Patrick, all right. 1259 01:08:46,490 --> 01:08:47,856 If he admits to a motive, 1260 01:08:47,858 --> 01:08:49,390 he's not protected anymore. 1261 01:08:49,392 --> 01:08:51,359 So we're gonna walk away now after all this time? 1262 01:08:51,361 --> 01:08:52,527 Yeah, we're sitting ducks. 1263 01:08:52,529 --> 01:08:53,695 We came all this fucking way. 1264 01:08:53,697 --> 01:08:55,163 You know what? Fuck you. 1265 01:08:55,764 --> 01:08:57,265 Stop being a pussy. 1266 01:09:06,909 --> 01:09:09,811 Things finally started to makes sense. 1267 01:09:09,813 --> 01:09:12,280 The more I thought about all the events, 1268 01:09:12,282 --> 01:09:15,583 the more I began to comprehend how Dwayne got away with murder. 1269 01:09:18,721 --> 01:09:21,623 There was the connection to Raymond Gibbs and his son. 1270 01:09:21,625 --> 01:09:23,925 But Dwayne killed three boys. 1271 01:09:23,927 --> 01:09:25,660 That was the scary part. 1272 01:09:25,662 --> 01:09:27,695 Ingeniously scary. 1273 01:09:27,697 --> 01:09:29,297 If he killed Cody alone, 1274 01:09:29,299 --> 01:09:32,233 it's far easier to draw the lines together. 1275 01:09:32,235 --> 01:09:34,169 So he diluted the motive. 1276 01:09:34,171 --> 01:09:37,172 Kill Cody, you have murder and motive. 1277 01:09:37,174 --> 01:09:40,708 Kill them all, it's a random act of violent insanity. 1278 01:09:48,651 --> 01:09:50,685 Adam did have a point. 1279 01:09:50,687 --> 01:09:52,921 I decided to take a copy of the footage 1280 01:09:52,923 --> 01:09:55,757 and a letter to the cops, in case anything happened. 1281 01:10:02,198 --> 01:10:03,932 When I started this documentary, 1282 01:10:03,934 --> 01:10:06,834 it was a passion project based on a crazy story. 1283 01:10:06,836 --> 01:10:09,470 It's not a story, it's a tragedy. 1284 01:10:09,472 --> 01:10:11,706 But I never thought it would lead to this. 1285 01:10:11,708 --> 01:10:13,975 I never though I would fear for my life. 1286 01:10:15,277 --> 01:10:16,978 That's it, right there. 1287 01:10:28,891 --> 01:10:30,758 When I get there, shut that down. 1288 01:10:31,694 --> 01:10:33,695 He was very, very adamant about... 1289 01:10:36,298 --> 01:10:38,666 The fact that he'll tell us where to set up and what to do. 1290 01:10:41,470 --> 01:10:42,470 You all right? 1291 01:10:42,472 --> 01:10:43,638 I'm fine. 1292 01:10:44,406 --> 01:10:46,274 Okay. 1293 01:10:46,276 --> 01:10:47,408 I know you don't wanna be here. 1294 01:10:47,410 --> 01:10:48,543 Dude, I'm fine. 1295 01:10:53,816 --> 01:10:55,650 Jesus! Where the fuck does this man live? 1296 01:11:03,659 --> 01:11:05,260 All right. Shut it off. 1297 01:11:06,328 --> 01:11:07,495 Let's do this. 1298 01:11:12,868 --> 01:11:14,302 Where's your camera guy? 1299 01:11:14,304 --> 01:11:15,403 It's just me and you. 1300 01:11:19,508 --> 01:11:20,675 Okay. 1301 01:11:23,545 --> 01:11:24,879 This isn't an interview, is it? 1302 01:11:29,652 --> 01:11:31,286 No, it's not. 1303 01:11:32,755 --> 01:11:33,921 - Where is your son? - Oh... 1304 01:11:39,828 --> 01:11:41,796 Just leave my son out of this. 1305 01:11:44,366 --> 01:11:45,700 Okay, you've got something to say, 1306 01:11:45,702 --> 01:11:47,035 so why don't you just say it? 1307 01:11:47,037 --> 01:11:48,469 You don't need me here. 1308 01:11:49,972 --> 01:11:51,072 It's not true. I do need you. 1309 01:11:51,807 --> 01:11:53,608 Why? 1310 01:11:53,610 --> 01:11:55,643 I think that if you see something 1311 01:11:57,313 --> 01:11:58,980 that is completely wrong and unjust, 1312 01:12:00,816 --> 01:12:03,451 you have a philosophical 1313 01:12:03,453 --> 01:12:05,453 moral obligation to speak up against it, 1314 01:12:05,455 --> 01:12:06,721 even if you cannot change it. 1315 01:12:10,025 --> 01:12:11,826 You've seen my film. 1316 01:12:15,397 --> 01:12:16,464 Yeah. 1317 01:12:18,667 --> 01:12:19,901 I've seen a lot of things, Julian. 1318 01:12:21,704 --> 01:12:22,870 And nothing's changed. 1319 01:12:22,872 --> 01:12:24,072 But an eye for an eye? 1320 01:12:25,007 --> 01:12:26,341 Is that really your answer? 1321 01:12:26,942 --> 01:12:28,409 Are you even now with Raymond? 1322 01:12:28,411 --> 01:12:29,677 Oh... 1323 01:12:30,813 --> 01:12:32,847 If... 1324 01:12:32,849 --> 01:12:35,516 If a child is ripped away from you like that... 1325 01:12:38,053 --> 01:12:39,787 There's no replacing it. 1326 01:12:41,557 --> 01:12:42,824 There's no eye for an eye. 1327 01:12:45,894 --> 01:12:47,795 But you are a murderer now. 1328 01:12:48,897 --> 01:12:50,064 I didn't ask to be a part of it. 1329 01:12:53,769 --> 01:12:54,902 But as I man, 1330 01:12:58,607 --> 01:13:01,042 as a husband and as a father, you do what's necessary. 1331 01:13:08,717 --> 01:13:10,618 You found it necessary 1332 01:13:10,620 --> 01:13:12,787 to kill three innocent boys? 1333 01:13:14,990 --> 01:13:16,858 These people get away with murder every day. 1334 01:13:19,661 --> 01:13:21,162 Hell, you made documentaries about it. 1335 01:13:24,066 --> 01:13:25,833 But you're just sitting there... 1336 01:13:25,835 --> 01:13:27,168 You're sitting there and you're judging me, 1337 01:13:27,170 --> 01:13:28,469 just like everyone else. 1338 01:13:29,171 --> 01:13:30,605 Those people, they... 1339 01:13:32,141 --> 01:13:33,608 They manipulate the laws. 1340 01:13:36,578 --> 01:13:38,413 And you can speak up, you can... 1341 01:13:39,014 --> 01:13:39,947 You can protest. 1342 01:13:42,184 --> 01:13:43,184 It doesn't matter. 1343 01:13:46,555 --> 01:13:48,656 I'm just the first guy to play their... 1344 01:13:48,658 --> 01:13:49,757 Their game by their rules. 1345 01:13:51,493 --> 01:13:53,027 Are you saying that you planned 1346 01:13:53,029 --> 01:13:55,596 and carried out the murder of Raymond Gibbs' son? 1347 01:13:55,598 --> 01:13:57,098 Julian, I'm saying 1348 01:13:57,100 --> 01:13:59,200 Raymond Gibbs hasn't suffered enough. 1349 01:14:02,204 --> 01:14:03,538 It still doesn't hide the fact 1350 01:14:03,540 --> 01:14:04,939 that you killed Thomas Burnett 1351 01:14:05,808 --> 01:14:07,041 and David Drabeck. 1352 01:14:08,143 --> 01:14:09,510 Do you think I'm a monster? 1353 01:14:09,978 --> 01:14:11,679 You murdered three boys. 1354 01:14:12,781 --> 01:14:13,815 And you filmed it. 1355 01:14:18,854 --> 01:14:20,521 Yeah, I watch that film every day. 1356 01:14:26,195 --> 01:14:27,628 I watch that film every day. 1357 01:14:29,798 --> 01:14:32,133 Because if I didn't, 1358 01:14:33,202 --> 01:14:35,136 I would not have the strength to... 1359 01:14:46,248 --> 01:14:48,015 Okay, Dwayne, we'll take a break if you want. 1360 01:14:49,151 --> 01:14:50,585 Dwayne! 1361 01:14:50,587 --> 01:14:51,786 Dwayne! Jesus! 1362 01:14:51,788 --> 01:14:53,654 Fuck! 1363 01:14:53,656 --> 01:14:56,491 Dwayne! Oh, shit! Adam! 1364 01:14:56,792 --> 01:14:57,925 Dwayne? 1365 01:14:58,760 --> 01:14:59,861 Dwayne? 1366 01:14:59,863 --> 01:15:01,095 Holy shit. 1367 01:15:02,030 --> 01:15:03,231 Oh! 1368 01:15:06,134 --> 01:15:07,535 Holy shit, dude. 1369 01:15:07,537 --> 01:15:08,870 - Call an ambulance. - Are you okay? 1370 01:15:08,872 --> 01:15:09,937 Call an ambulance. 1371 01:15:09,939 --> 01:15:11,072 I am, I am. 1372 01:15:11,074 --> 01:15:12,673 What the fuck. His kid's in the back. 1373 01:15:13,942 --> 01:15:15,142 What did you do, man? 1374 01:15:25,020 --> 01:15:26,120 ...camera guy? 1375 01:15:26,122 --> 01:15:27,255 It's just you and me. 1376 01:15:30,792 --> 01:15:31,926 That's good. 1377 01:15:33,028 --> 01:15:34,729 This isn't an interview, is it? 1378 01:15:36,598 --> 01:15:38,299 No, it's not. 1379 01:15:38,301 --> 01:15:38,299 Are you saying that-- 1380 01:15:38,301 --> 01:15:38,299 I wanted something good to come from this. 1381 01:15:42,638 --> 01:15:44,805 I thought that I would find it in the truth. 1382 01:15:44,807 --> 01:15:47,542 Raymond Gibbs hasn't suffered enough. 1383 01:15:47,544 --> 01:15:50,044 Some people congratulated me on getting to Dwayne. 1384 01:15:50,046 --> 01:15:51,846 Cornering him into the truth. 1385 01:15:52,981 --> 01:15:54,181 Jesus! Fuck! 1386 01:15:55,217 --> 01:15:55,216 Dwayne! Holy shit! Adam! 1387 01:15:55,218 --> 01:15:58,286 But there's more to it than that. 1388 01:15:58,288 --> 01:15:59,654 Dwayne? 1389 01:16:00,289 --> 01:16:01,589 Dwayne? 1390 01:16:01,591 --> 01:16:02,857 Holy shit. 1391 01:16:03,625 --> 01:16:03,624 Oh! 1392 01:16:07,796 --> 01:16:10,197 Holy shit, dude! Are you okay? 1393 01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:11,132 Call an ambulance. 1394 01:16:11,134 --> 01:16:11,132 I am, I am. 1395 01:16:11,134 --> 01:16:13,935 What the fuck. His kid's in the back. 1396 01:16:16,004 --> 01:16:19,974 Dwayne's son had died two months earlier. 1397 01:16:19,976 --> 01:16:22,843 About the same time I had received the anonymous email 1398 01:16:22,845 --> 01:16:24,612 about the Yellowstone Murders. 1399 01:16:25,814 --> 01:16:27,114 Losing his son 1400 01:16:27,116 --> 01:16:28,316 was the final straw. 1401 01:16:28,318 --> 01:16:31,752 Dwayne was clinging to his son's life 1402 01:16:31,754 --> 01:16:33,321 more than he was clinging to his own. 1403 01:16:38,727 --> 01:16:40,661 When I returned home, I had another email 1404 01:16:40,663 --> 01:16:42,096 from chasingbisonbear. 1405 01:16:42,931 --> 01:16:45,266 No subject, no message. 1406 01:16:47,269 --> 01:16:48,936 That image was always a metaphor for me. 1407 01:16:49,838 --> 01:16:52,039 The chase through Yellowstone. 1408 01:16:52,041 --> 01:16:54,675 But I never fully understood if I was the bear, 1409 01:16:54,677 --> 01:16:56,310 or if I was the bison. 1410 01:16:56,312 --> 01:16:58,112 The hunter or the hunted. 1411 01:16:59,648 --> 01:17:01,682 Now I realize I was neither. 1412 01:17:01,684 --> 01:17:02,950 I was just the guy with the camera, 1413 01:17:02,952 --> 01:17:04,018 who captured the story. 1414 01:17:08,290 --> 01:17:11,325 ...or whatever. And Dwayne... 1415 01:17:11,327 --> 01:17:11,325 Dwayne and Bear, 1416 01:17:11,327 --> 01:17:14,829 they went in pretty much all the time. 1417 01:17:15,964 --> 01:17:17,031 Sorry, "Bear"? 1418 01:17:17,033 --> 01:17:19,734 Bear, yeah. Barry was his dad. 1419 01:17:20,035 --> 01:17:21,769 Yeah. 1420 01:17:21,771 --> 01:17:23,371 Dad's just a... 1421 01:17:24,673 --> 01:17:25,973 Barry was his dad. 1422 01:17:26,341 --> 01:17:26,340 Yeah. 1423 01:17:26,342 --> 01:17:30,044 Unlike me, Dwayne actually looked up to his father. 1424 01:17:31,179 --> 01:17:31,178 I should have paid more attention 1425 01:17:31,180 --> 01:17:34,248 to the email address from the beginning. 1426 01:17:35,751 --> 01:17:39,020 Two names appear under the handle "Bison Barry". 1427 01:17:39,022 --> 01:17:43,257 One, a sports director from a University radio station in Cleveland, 1428 01:17:43,259 --> 01:17:47,194 the other a part time writer for the West Yellowstone Newspaper 1429 01:17:47,196 --> 01:17:48,963 back in the '70s. 1430 01:17:48,965 --> 01:17:51,866 His full name, Barry Robert Nelson. 1431 01:17:51,868 --> 01:17:54,101 Father to Dwayne Nelson. 1432 01:17:54,103 --> 01:17:57,438 What caught my eye most was one article in particular, 1433 01:17:57,440 --> 01:17:59,306 written back in 1978. 1434 01:18:00,075 --> 01:18:02,743 "Idaho - Population Zero." 1435 01:18:04,246 --> 01:18:06,747 ...as the Yellowstone murderer was found dead in his home 1436 01:18:06,749 --> 01:18:06,747 early this morning. 1437 01:18:06,749 --> 01:18:10,685 Police have yet to reveal the full details surrounding his death, 1438 01:18:10,687 --> 01:18:12,887 but early reports suggests suicide. 1439 01:18:12,889 --> 01:18:14,321 The whole time, I believed that Dwayne 1440 01:18:14,323 --> 01:18:16,057 wanted to admit the truth. 1441 01:18:16,059 --> 01:18:18,926 But as way to cleanse his soul. 1442 01:18:18,928 --> 01:18:21,729 Now I know that this was all part of his plan. 1443 01:18:21,731 --> 01:18:23,998 Everything from the get go had been on his terms. 1444 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,232 Everything. 1445 01:18:25,234 --> 01:18:27,034 The murders, the loophole. 1446 01:18:27,036 --> 01:18:28,202 Even this film. 1447 01:18:29,204 --> 01:18:31,005 He wanted revenge, he got it. 1448 01:18:31,007 --> 01:18:33,741 He wanted the truth out there, he got that, too. 1449 01:18:33,743 --> 01:18:36,444 He used me, he used the Justice System, 1450 01:18:36,446 --> 01:18:37,812 he used us all. 1451 01:18:44,219 --> 01:18:47,321 I struggled a lot with whether I should release this film, 1452 01:18:47,323 --> 01:18:49,990 and whose story I was trying to tell. 1453 01:18:49,992 --> 01:18:51,859 I wanted something good to come from this. 1454 01:18:53,128 --> 01:18:54,929 I thought that I would find it in the truth. 1455 01:18:55,964 --> 01:18:57,264 The truth was worse. 1456 01:18:58,900 --> 01:19:01,902 One man picked a fight with a multi-million dollar company, 1457 01:19:01,904 --> 01:19:04,805 whose fracking process was poisoning his home 1458 01:19:04,807 --> 01:19:06,073 and killing his family. 1459 01:19:07,008 --> 01:19:08,976 But nobody won here. 1460 01:19:08,978 --> 01:19:11,212 Not at the expense of a man's life, 1461 01:19:11,214 --> 01:19:14,448 his family's, and three young men. 1462 01:19:14,450 --> 01:19:17,218 I think there's a lot more to it than even Dwayne's letting on. 1463 01:19:18,019 --> 01:19:20,254 You know, maybe something that 1464 01:19:20,256 --> 01:19:21,789 can shed a better light. 1465 01:19:24,993 --> 01:19:24,992 That's Dwayne. 1466 01:19:24,994 --> 01:19:29,230 He's just gonna bottle it up and tell you what you need. 1467 01:19:31,133 --> 01:19:32,199 Bye bye. 1468 01:19:32,201 --> 01:19:33,367 Okay. 1469 01:19:33,369 --> 01:19:35,236 - Muah! - Muah! 1470 01:19:35,238 --> 01:19:36,804 I love you, dada. 1471 01:19:36,806 --> 01:19:38,472 Love you, dada. 1472 01:19:38,474 --> 01:19:39,840 Oh, so sweet. 1473 01:19:41,943 --> 01:19:43,978 The fact that he could kill those three boys 1474 01:19:43,980 --> 01:19:45,412 seems unreal to me. 1475 01:19:46,381 --> 01:19:48,215 But... 1476 01:19:48,217 --> 01:19:51,152 You know, you put a man through what he went through, 1477 01:19:51,154 --> 01:19:53,320 I guess everybody would have a breaking point, so... 1478 01:20:06,301 --> 01:20:08,102 Yellowstone National Park. 1479 01:20:09,271 --> 01:20:11,572 Around every corner is a reminder 1480 01:20:11,574 --> 01:20:13,507 of how still life can be. 1481 01:20:14,543 --> 01:20:16,343 How vast it can be. 1482 01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:20,848 How true it can be. 1483 01:20:22,284 --> 01:20:23,884 Until it isn't. 111277

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