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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,041 --> 00:00:12,250 Male journalist: WHAT'S WRONG, MADAM? 2 00:00:12,250 --> 00:00:15,291 WE WANT OUR CHILDREN, WE WANT TO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. 3 00:00:15,291 --> 00:00:18,000 MY SON WAS KIDNAPPED 15 MONTHS AGO. 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 WHAT ABOUT THE STOLEN BABIES? 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,583 WHY WON'T THEY TELL US IF THEY'RE ALIVE OR DEAD? 6 00:00:24,583 --> 00:00:27,000 THAT'S ALL WE WANT. 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,833 AN ANSWER, THAT'S ALL. THEN, WE'LL LEAVE. 8 00:00:32,708 --> 00:00:34,166 THEY RAIDED MY HOUSE 4 TIMES. 9 00:00:34,166 --> 00:00:35,708 THEY TOOK ME AWAY AND TORTURED ME 10 00:00:35,708 --> 00:00:37,583 SO I WOULD TELL THEM WHERE MY SON WAS. 11 00:00:37,583 --> 00:00:39,416 THAT'S THE ARGENTINA WE LIVE IN. 12 00:00:39,416 --> 00:00:43,750 WE WANT THEM ALL BACK. NOT JUST OUR OWN CHILDREN. 13 00:00:43,750 --> 00:00:45,250 HOW MANY OF YOU ARE THERE? 14 00:00:45,250 --> 00:00:47,166 THOUSANDS, THOUSANDS OF WOMEN. 15 00:00:47,166 --> 00:00:49,875 THOUSANDS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. 16 00:00:49,875 --> 00:00:51,583 [Dramatic music] 17 00:01:16,250 --> 00:01:18,041 [Title music "Firing Line"] 18 00:01:37,541 --> 00:01:40,833 William Buckley Jr.: HERE IN ARGENTINA THE COUNTRY IS ENDURING GREAT PAIN. 19 00:01:40,833 --> 00:01:43,291 THREE JOURNALISTS RESIDENT IN ARGENTINA 20 00:01:43,291 --> 00:01:46,916 ARE WELL EQUIPPED TO SHED LIGHT ON THESE PROBLEMS. 21 00:01:46,916 --> 00:01:51,666 MR ROBERT COX, WHO IS THE EDITOR OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE DAILY 22 00:01:51,666 --> 00:01:53,666 BUENOS AIRES HERALD. 23 00:01:54,291 --> 00:01:56,500 MR COX WAS BORN IN ENGLAND, WAS SCHOOLED THERE, 24 00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:58,416 DROPPING OUT TO DO NEWSPAPER WORK. 25 00:01:58,416 --> 00:02:03,666 HE SERVED IN THE ROYAL NAVY IN KOREA AND IN 1959 HE CAME TO BUENOS AIRES, 26 00:02:03,666 --> 00:02:06,583 WHERE IN ADDITION TO EDITING THE PAPER, 27 00:02:06,583 --> 00:02:13,041 HE SERVES AS CORRESPONDENT FOR THE ECONOMIST AND NEWSWEEK. 28 00:02:14,958 --> 00:02:20,583 Uki Goñi: WHEN I MET BOB, HE WAS THIS 41-YEAR-OLD GUY WITH THIS HUGE BEARD, 29 00:02:20,583 --> 00:02:24,041 FIVE KIDS, ALL SINGING BEATLES SONGS. 30 00:02:25,416 --> 00:02:27,500 AND SUDDENLY, AFTER THE DICTATORSHIP, 31 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:29,708 BOB SHOWS UP WITHOUT A BEARD. 32 00:02:31,583 --> 00:02:34,291 HE SAID: "NO, I HAD TO SHAVE OFF MY BEARD." 33 00:02:34,291 --> 00:02:38,791 BOB HATED GOING DIPLOMATIC COCKTAILS AND THE WHOLE SOCIETY THING. 34 00:02:38,791 --> 00:02:43,125 AND HE SAID: "I HAVE TO GO THE EMBASSIES, 35 00:02:43,125 --> 00:02:45,500 I HAVE TO GO TO THESE COCKTAILS I HATE GOING TO, 36 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:47,625 BECAUSE I HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT'S HAPPENING". 37 00:02:47,625 --> 00:02:49,625 BECAUSE BOB KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 38 00:02:50,791 --> 00:02:53,833 Buckley: THE PRINCIPAL AGENTS OF COUNTER-TERRORIST VIOLENCE 39 00:02:53,833 --> 00:02:55,833 ARE THE POLICE, THE ARMY, 40 00:02:55,833 --> 00:02:59,333 AND A LOOSELY ORGANIZED ASSOCIATION CALLED THE AAA. 41 00:03:00,541 --> 00:03:02,083 THE BODY COUNT IS VERY HIGH. 42 00:03:02,583 --> 00:03:04,791 AND IT SEEMS YEARS AGO 43 00:03:04,791 --> 00:03:09,541 SINCE DUE PROCESS WAS ACTUALLY USED IN ESTABLISHING GUILT OR INNOCENCE. 44 00:03:11,833 --> 00:03:16,250 Pamela Wheaton: MY MEMORIES OF BOB, HE WAS ALWAYS A LITTLE DISTRACTED 45 00:03:16,250 --> 00:03:19,333 BECAUSE EVERYTHING WAS ON HIS MIND. 46 00:03:22,458 --> 00:03:26,916 Andrew Graham-Yooll: YOU HAD FEAR BY CONTAGION. THIS IS HOW FEAR WORKS. 47 00:03:26,916 --> 00:03:32,041 I THINK FEAR IS A VERY REASONABLE FEELING TO HAVE. 48 00:03:32,041 --> 00:03:34,708 COWARDICE, NO. 49 00:03:34,708 --> 00:03:36,708 Uki: BOB WAS CONTINUALLY SWEATING. 50 00:03:36,708 --> 00:03:41,458 VERY, VERY SCARED, SHAKING. REALLY SHAKING. 51 00:03:46,666 --> 00:03:51,375 Maud Cox: THE SECRETARY OF THE HERALD CALLED ME AND SAID: 52 00:03:51,375 --> 00:03:55,083 STAY CALM, DON'T PANIC, 53 00:03:55,083 --> 00:03:59,583 BOB HAS JUST BEEN TAKEN. 54 00:04:00,208 --> 00:04:01,958 I WAS VERY, VERY FRIGHTENED 55 00:04:01,958 --> 00:04:05,041 BECAUSE BOB SUFFERED A LOT FROM ASTHMA BACK THEN. 56 00:04:05,083 --> 00:04:08,416 HIS NERVOUSNESS SET IT OFF. 57 00:04:11,375 --> 00:04:15,083 SO, I WENT TO THE JUDGE'S OFFICE. 58 00:04:15,083 --> 00:04:20,166 BOB CAME PAST WITH TWO POLICEMEN. BUT I HAD TO WAIT OUTSIDE. 59 00:04:20,166 --> 00:04:24,291 WHEN THEY CAME OUT, I ASKED: WELL, CAN HE LEAVE NOW? 60 00:04:24,291 --> 00:04:29,083 NO, HE HAS TO SIGN HIS RELEASE FORMS BACK AT THE POLICE STATION. 61 00:04:29,083 --> 00:04:32,416 I SAID: SO, YOU'LL LET HIM GO, HE'LL TAKE THE BUS HOME 62 00:04:32,458 --> 00:04:34,958 AND YOU'LL MURDER HIM ON HIS WAY HOME? 63 00:04:34,958 --> 00:04:37,041 NO, WE WON'T DO THAT. 64 00:04:37,041 --> 00:04:40,000 WE WON'T KILL HIM. 65 00:04:41,916 --> 00:04:43,791 FOR NOW. 66 00:04:44,833 --> 00:04:47,416 Female journalist: WHAT EFFECT DOES WORKING UNDER 67 00:04:47,416 --> 00:04:50,083 THE PRECARIOUS CONDITIONS HERE HAVE ON YOUR LIFE? 68 00:04:50,083 --> 00:04:54,708 Cox: YOU HAVE TO COME TO A DECISION AT SOME TIME OR ANOTHER. 69 00:04:55,333 --> 00:04:57,458 YOU HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN. 70 00:04:57,458 --> 00:04:59,375 THAT MEANS ANYTHING. 71 00:05:00,750 --> 00:05:01,583 THE POINT IS 72 00:05:02,541 --> 00:05:06,000 I'VE DISCOVERED IT NOW, IT'S LIKE A FEAR OF FLYING. 73 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,083 I WAS FRIGHTENED IN MY FIRST FLIGHT IN AN AEROPLANE. 74 00:05:09,083 --> 00:05:11,708 I WAS FRIGHTENED IN THE SECOND, AND IN THE THIRD. 75 00:05:11,708 --> 00:05:13,708 AFTER YOU'VE DONE IT A LOT, YOU'RE NOT FRIGHTENED ANYMORE. 76 00:05:13,708 --> 00:05:15,708 AND THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON NOW, SINCE 1970-1971. 77 00:05:15,708 --> 00:05:18,166 [Cox's voice fades out] 78 00:05:18,166 --> 00:05:21,416 [Fighter jets flying overhead] 79 00:05:33,375 --> 00:05:39,750 [Big Ben chimes] 80 00:05:42,666 --> 00:05:45,833 [Fighter jets moving closer] 81 00:05:45,833 --> 00:05:50,416 [Big Ben chimes] 82 00:05:59,750 --> 00:06:04,375 Cox: I WAS BORN IN LONDON, EALING, A SUBURB OF LONDON. 83 00:06:04,375 --> 00:06:09,041 MY FATHER BORN WITHIN THE SOUND OF BOW BELLS, 84 00:06:09,041 --> 00:06:12,625 WHICH MEANT THAT HE WAS A REAL COCKNEY, A REAL LONDONER. 85 00:06:13,541 --> 00:06:16,041 VERY FEW CHILDREN LIVED IN LONDON. 86 00:06:16,041 --> 00:06:19,583 WE HAD A WONDERFUL TIME BECAUSE WE WERE COMPLETELY FREE. 87 00:06:22,250 --> 00:06:25,416 I WAS BORN IN 1933 WHEN HITLER CAME TO POWER. 88 00:06:25,416 --> 00:06:29,250 AND I GUESS I LIVED UNDER THE SHADOW OF HIM PRETTY MUCH ALL OF MY YOUTH. 89 00:06:29,250 --> 00:06:31,250 [Explosions] 90 00:06:35,666 --> 00:06:42,083 I REMEMBER SO WELL LONDON UNDER THE BLITZ, SEEING THE SKY 91 00:06:42,083 --> 00:06:44,083 VIOLENT, RED. 92 00:06:44,083 --> 00:06:46,083 [Ambulance sirens] 93 00:06:49,875 --> 00:06:52,041 WE USED TO GO AND WE USED TO COLLECT SHRAPNEL, 94 00:06:52,041 --> 00:06:54,041 WHICH WERE THE PIECES FROM THE BOMBS. 95 00:06:54,041 --> 00:06:56,041 WE HAD TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO PICK UP 96 00:06:56,041 --> 00:07:00,625 THE BOOBYTRAPS THAT THE GERMANS DROPPED. 97 00:07:02,125 --> 00:07:04,541 SO I LIVED WITH ALL OF THAT ALL THE TIME. 98 00:07:04,541 --> 00:07:07,000 THE OTHER THING THAT FORMED ME 99 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:12,166 WAS THAT MY FATHER ALWAYS HAD THIS DREAM OF GOING TO ARGENTINA. 100 00:07:14,125 --> 00:07:17,000 HE WAS AN OFFICER ON THESE BIG LINERS 101 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,333 AND HE CAME TO BUENOS AIRES QUITE OFTEN 102 00:07:20,333 --> 00:07:24,750 AND HE TRIED TO PERSUADE MY MOTHER TO IMMIGRATE TO ARGENTINA. 103 00:07:24,750 --> 00:07:28,958 [Tango music] 104 00:07:37,333 --> 00:07:38,708 BUT I WAS CONTRACTED 105 00:07:38,708 --> 00:07:41,541 AND THEY USED TO CONTRACT JOURNALISTS IN ENGLAND. 106 00:07:41,541 --> 00:07:43,541 THE BELIEF WAS THAT ARGENTINES 107 00:07:43,541 --> 00:07:47,125 WOULD NOT WORK THE HOURS THAT WE USED TO WORK. 108 00:07:51,750 --> 00:07:53,666 AND WE DID WORK CRAZY HOURS. 109 00:07:53,666 --> 00:07:56,375 I ALMOST LIVED IN THE NEWSPAPER. 110 00:07:56,375 --> 00:07:58,958 IN A WAY RATHER WONDERFUL AND IT LOOKS ROMANTIC 111 00:07:58,958 --> 00:08:00,958 LOOKING BACK... SO MANY YEARS BACK. 112 00:08:01,291 --> 00:08:02,958 VERY ROMANTIC. 113 00:08:02,958 --> 00:08:04,958 [Tango music] 114 00:08:08,958 --> 00:08:11,458 I ARRIVED IN ARGENTINA IN 1959. 115 00:08:11,458 --> 00:08:14,250 ON APRIL THE 4TH, 1959. 116 00:08:15,250 --> 00:08:19,541 TO AN ARGENTINA THAT WAS HOPING TO BECOME A DEMOCRACY AGAIN. 117 00:08:25,750 --> 00:08:27,875 THERE WAS A VERY STRONG SENSE IN THE NEWSPAPER 118 00:08:27,875 --> 00:08:32,833 THAT ARGENTINA WAS GOING TO GET ON TRACK AGAIN AND MAKE PROGRESS. 119 00:08:32,833 --> 00:08:36,083 [Tango music] 120 00:08:51,583 --> 00:08:53,291 IT WAS A VERY SMALL NEWSPAPER. 121 00:08:53,291 --> 00:08:56,166 AND IT WAS VERY FIRST-RATE ON COVERING 122 00:08:56,166 --> 00:08:57,916 INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS. 123 00:08:57,916 --> 00:09:01,875 BUT IT WASN'T TOO HAPPY ABOUT COVERING ARGENTINE AFFAIRS. 124 00:09:01,875 --> 00:09:02,916 [Laughs] 125 00:09:02,916 --> 00:09:05,291 AND THE HERALD WAS ALWAYS VERY DEMOCRATIC 126 00:09:05,291 --> 00:09:07,833 AND ALSO IT WAS A NEWSPAPER THAT CARED. 127 00:09:07,833 --> 00:09:11,708 IT HAD EDITORIALS THAT SUPPORTED STRIKES AND WORKERS. 128 00:09:11,708 --> 00:09:15,041 [Tango music] 129 00:09:20,458 --> 00:09:26,125 I INTENDED TO MOVE ON, AS EVERYBODY DID AT THE HERALD. 130 00:09:26,125 --> 00:09:28,583 ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE MOVED THROUGH. BRILLIANT PEOPLE. 131 00:09:28,583 --> 00:09:32,583 ONE LEFT HIS JACKET BEHIND, [Laughs] HE JUST MOVED ON. 132 00:09:32,583 --> 00:09:35,083 NO, I EXPECTED TO MOVE ON. 133 00:09:35,083 --> 00:09:39,541 AND I WAS ABOUT TO MOVE ON AND I MET MAUD, SO I DIDN'T MOVE ON. 134 00:09:39,541 --> 00:09:43,208 I MET MY WIFE HERE. SO I DIDN'T MOVE ON. 135 00:09:44,125 --> 00:09:47,083 Male journalist: KIDNAPPING IN ARGENTINA IS BIG BUSINESS. 136 00:09:47,083 --> 00:09:50,958 SO FAR THIS YEAR THERE HAVE BEEN MORE THAN 60 KIDNAPPINGS. 137 00:09:50,958 --> 00:09:52,583 THERE WILL BE MORE. 138 00:09:52,583 --> 00:09:57,833 URBAN GUERRILLAS LIKE ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION NEED CASH TO OPERATE. 139 00:09:58,708 --> 00:10:02,291 KIDNAPPING FOREIGN EXECUTIVES HAS PROVED TO BE 140 00:10:02,291 --> 00:10:05,375 AN EASY AND EFFECTIVE WAY OF RAISING MONEY. 141 00:10:06,375 --> 00:10:07,875 OKAY, FINE, TURN IT OFF! 142 00:10:07,916 --> 00:10:11,375 [Crowds shouting and chanting] 143 00:10:21,958 --> 00:10:24,750 Andrew: THE SEVENTIES BEGIN IN ARGENTINA IN 1973. 144 00:10:24,750 --> 00:10:32,041 THAT IS WHEN PERÓN RETURNED TO ARGENTINA FROM HIS EXILE IN SPAIN. 145 00:10:32,041 --> 00:10:35,500 THE WHOLE POLITICAL STRUCTURE OF ARGENTINA 146 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:39,125 HAD TO CONTEMPLATE THE PRESENCE OF GUERRILLAS AND THEIR ACTIONS. 147 00:10:39,125 --> 00:10:40,625 URBAN GUERRILLAS. 148 00:10:40,625 --> 00:10:43,083 [People yelling] 149 00:10:43,083 --> 00:10:47,583 Male journalist: ANOTHER DISTURBANCE IN THIS CONTEXT OF CONFUSION. 150 00:10:47,583 --> 00:10:53,375 JOS RUCCI HAS BEEN MURDERED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF FLORESTA. 151 00:11:01,125 --> 00:11:03,583 Cox: THE WAY I SAW IT WAS 152 00:11:03,583 --> 00:11:07,208 AT ONE TIME, MOST OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN ARGENTINA 153 00:11:07,208 --> 00:11:10,666 SAW THE MONTONEROS AND THE GUERRILLA GROUPS 154 00:11:10,666 --> 00:11:14,208 AS THE FUTURE OF ARGENTINA. 155 00:11:14,208 --> 00:11:17,583 [Crowds chanting] 156 00:11:19,083 --> 00:11:21,208 THEY WERE IDEALIST. 157 00:11:21,208 --> 00:11:25,250 AND OF COURSE THERE WAS THE TREMENDOUS FRUSTRATION OF PER**N***S RETURN. 158 00:11:25,750 --> 00:11:28,875 THE BELIEF WAS THAT AFTER 18 YEARS IN EXILE, 159 00:11:28,875 --> 00:11:31,625 HE WOULD COME BACK AND RESTORE ARGENTINA. 160 00:11:31,625 --> 00:11:34,458 HE GOT 60 PERCENT OF THE VOTE. 161 00:11:34,458 --> 00:11:37,250 SO THERE WAS ENORMOUS EXPECTATION. 162 00:11:37,250 --> 00:11:41,208 AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, THESE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVED THAT 163 00:11:41,208 --> 00:11:44,958 THEY WERE GOING TO GO ALONG THE WAY OF MAO OR CHE GUEVARA 164 00:11:44,958 --> 00:11:48,125 SUDDENLY REALISED THAT PERÓN WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE. 165 00:11:48,125 --> 00:11:50,291 HE WASN'T ON THEIR SIDE. 166 00:11:50,958 --> 00:11:55,166 Peronist activist: THE EXAMPLE SET BY JUAN PERN INSPIRED US, THE YOUTH... 167 00:11:55,166 --> 00:11:58,000 TO UNDERGO OUR OWN CONSTRUCTIVE POLITICAL PROCESS. 168 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,416 Andrew: THE MILITARY IN ARGENTINA CAME WITH A PROPOSAL 169 00:12:02,416 --> 00:12:05,333 THAT THIS SECTION OF SOCIETY HAD TO BE WIPED. 170 00:12:05,333 --> 00:12:08,625 AND I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, HISTORICALLY. 171 00:12:08,625 --> 00:12:12,083 THEY HAD TO BE DISAPPEARED. 172 00:12:12,083 --> 00:12:15,208 [Crowd sings "The Peronist March"] 173 00:12:15,208 --> 00:12:17,208 [Suspenseful music] 174 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:36,125 "Still no answers" 175 00:12:36,125 --> 00:12:38,000 Cox: WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO COME, YES. 176 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,291 "Changes are imminent" 177 00:12:40,291 --> 00:12:42,625 WE HAD A TIP-OFF GUY IN GOVERNMENT HOUSE 178 00:12:42,625 --> 00:12:43,875 "Order to be upheld" 179 00:12:43,875 --> 00:12:46,166 WHO USED TO CALL US UP AND SAY: 180 00:12:46,166 --> 00:12:49,458 "IF IT'S NOT TOMORROW, IT WILL BE THE DAY AFTER." 181 00:12:49,458 --> 00:12:52,541 IT WAS INEVITABLE. 182 00:12:55,083 --> 00:13:00,666 Military spokesman: THE POPULATION IS ADVISED THAT, FROM TODAY 183 00:13:00,708 --> 00:13:06,958 THE COUNTRY IS UNDER THE OPERATIONAL CONTROL OF A MILITARY JUNTA. 184 00:13:06,958 --> 00:13:13,791 ALL INHABITANTS ARE ADVISED TO OBEY ALL ORDERS AND DIRECTIVES 185 00:13:13,791 --> 00:13:19,500 ISSUED BY THE MILITARY, SECURITY OR POLICE FORCES. 186 00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:27,250 AND TO AVOID ANY INDIVIDUAL OR GROUP ACTIVITIES AND ATTITUDES 187 00:13:27,250 --> 00:13:33,250 THAT MIGHT REQUIRE THE DRASTIC INTERVENTION OF SECURITY PERSONNEL. 188 00:13:34,166 --> 00:13:37,500 SIGNED BY GENERAL JORGE RAFAEL VIDELA 189 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:41,375 LIEUTENANT GENERAL AND GENERAL COMMANDER OF THE ARMY. 190 00:13:41,375 --> 00:13:45,458 [Military march] 191 00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:50,333 Cox: I MEAN THERE WERE JOKES ABOUT COUPS IN ARGENTINA. 192 00:13:50,333 --> 00:13:52,333 "A REVOLUTION IN ARGENTINA" 193 00:13:52,333 --> 00:13:58,000 THERE ARE MORE DEATHS IN A MEXICAN WEDDING THAN IN AN ARGENTINE COUP." 194 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 AND TO SOME EXTENT THAT WAS TRUE. 195 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,000 WHEN THE COUP CAME PEOPLE WOULD GO 196 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,333 TO THE CASA ROSADA TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON. 197 00:14:06,333 --> 00:14:07,583 THIS WAS SO DIFFERENT. 198 00:14:07,583 --> 00:14:10,250 AND TO BEGIN WITH WE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS DIFFERENT. 199 00:14:10,250 --> 00:14:11,583 WE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT. 200 00:14:11,583 --> 00:14:12,875 UNTIL PEOPLE DIDN'T TURN UP. 201 00:14:12,875 --> 00:14:16,041 PEOPLE WERE TAKEN AWAY AND THEY DIDN'T TURN UP AGAIN. 202 00:14:16,041 --> 00:14:17,000 [Music] 203 00:14:26,208 --> 00:14:28,791 Judge: DR. LOPEZ, YOUR NEXT WITNESS. 204 00:14:28,791 --> 00:14:35,291 Dr. Lopez: YOUR HONOR, OUR NEXT WITNESS SPEAKS SPANISH, BUT NOT PERFECTLY. 205 00:14:35,291 --> 00:14:40,500 Judge: SHOW HIM IN AND HAVE THE INTERPRETER READY. 206 00:14:50,625 --> 00:14:51,625 Dr. Lopez: PLEASE, STAND. 207 00:14:53,833 --> 00:14:59,250 Judge: YOU HAVE BEEN SUMMONED AS A WITNESS IN THIS ONGOING TRIAL 208 00:14:59,250 --> 00:15:02,750 AGAINST MEMBERS OF THE FIRST 3 MILITARY JUNTAS 209 00:15:02,750 --> 00:15:07,041 OF THE REGIME KNOWN AS THE NATIONAL REORGANIZATION PROCESS. 210 00:15:07,625 --> 00:15:11,041 DO YOUR SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH? 211 00:15:11,041 --> 00:15:14,750 Robert Cox: YES. Judge: PLEASE, HAVE A SEAT. 212 00:15:27,041 --> 00:15:29,541 Uki: YOU SEE, AT THE BEGINNING, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. 213 00:15:29,541 --> 00:15:32,041 THERE HAD BEEN ALL THIS KIDNAPPING GOING ON 214 00:15:32,041 --> 00:15:33,875 DURING THE PERONIST YEARS. 215 00:15:33,875 --> 00:15:36,083 SOME OF THE PEOPLE TURNED UP DEAD. 216 00:15:36,083 --> 00:15:39,750 SOMETIMES THEY WOULD THROW THE BODIES 217 00:15:39,750 --> 00:15:41,291 AT THE BASE OF THE OBELISQUE 218 00:15:41,291 --> 00:15:44,041 ON THE 9 DE JULIO. 219 00:15:45,416 --> 00:15:49,500 SO WHEN PEOPLE STARTED DISAPPEARING UNDER THE DICTATORSHIP, 220 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:52,208 WE THOUGHT THEY WERE BEING HELD SOMEWHERE. 221 00:15:53,416 --> 00:15:56,041 DO YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE ON TRIAL? 222 00:15:56,458 --> 00:15:58,541 SOME OF THEM, PERSONALLY. 223 00:15:58,541 --> 00:16:02,083 I CAN RECOGNIZE THE OTHER GENERALS BECAUSE 224 00:16:02,083 --> 00:16:05,458 I LIVED IN ARGENTINA FOR 20 YEARS. 225 00:16:06,208 --> 00:16:10,166 Judge: DO YOU SHARE A FRIENDSHIP OR ENMITY WITH ANY OF THEM? 226 00:16:10,166 --> 00:16:13,250 DO YOU HAVE ANY SOCIAL CONNECTIONS? 227 00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:17,750 NO, I AM NOT FRIENDS WITH ANY OF THE DEFENDANTS. 228 00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:20,833 Judge: CAN YOU REMAIN IMPARTIAL? 229 00:16:20,833 --> 00:16:25,041 IS THERE ANY CIRCUMSTANCE THAT MIGHT AFFECT YOUR HONESTY? 230 00:16:25,041 --> 00:16:27,750 Cox: NO, I WILL BE VERY IMPARTIAL. 231 00:16:27,750 --> 00:16:29,208 TOTALLY IMPARTIAL. 232 00:16:32,416 --> 00:16:35,541 Pamela: I DIDN'T REALLY LIVE WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE. 233 00:16:35,541 --> 00:16:37,833 BUT I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE FED UP 234 00:16:37,833 --> 00:16:40,541 AND THEY WELCOMED THE MILITARY. 235 00:16:41,041 --> 00:16:43,958 AND THEN, OF COURSE, WHAT HAPPENED WAS PRETTY AWFUL. 236 00:16:43,958 --> 00:16:47,416 Cox: I HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH MANY PEOPLE. 237 00:16:47,416 --> 00:16:51,041 THE FIRST THAT ONE I RECALL CHRONOLOGICALLY 238 00:16:51,041 --> 00:16:54,375 IS A MEETING THAT TOOK PLACE WITH PRESIDENT VIDELA. 239 00:16:56,333 --> 00:16:58,583 THERE WAS A SMALL GROUP OF JOURNALISTS, 240 00:16:58,583 --> 00:17:02,500 PRESIDENT VIDELA CALLED SMALL GROUPS OF JOURNALISTS TO SEE HIM. 241 00:17:03,416 --> 00:17:07,208 THE CONVERSATION WAS EXTREMELY MOVING. 242 00:17:07,208 --> 00:17:09,208 ALTHOUGH I HAD NEVER MET PRESIDENT VIDELA 243 00:17:09,208 --> 00:17:11,208 AND HE WAS NOT A FRIEND, 244 00:17:11,208 --> 00:17:13,000 I LOOKED UPON HIM AS A FRIEND. 245 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,125 NOT ONLY OF MYSELF BUT OF ALL THE PEOPLE OF ARGENTINA. 246 00:17:17,125 --> 00:17:20,416 [Music] 247 00:17:20,416 --> 00:17:22,416 [Elevator approaching] 248 00:17:28,875 --> 00:17:33,583 Maud: HE CAME HOME ONE NIGHT, IT WAS ALWAYS QUITE LATE. 249 00:17:33,583 --> 00:17:37,791 HE CAME HOME AROUND 10:30 or 11. SOMETIMES MIDNIGHT. 250 00:17:37,833 --> 00:17:40,208 WHEN THE NEWSPAPER WAS SENT TO PRINT. 251 00:17:40,208 --> 00:17:42,208 HE CAME TO ME AND SAID: 252 00:17:43,041 --> 00:17:46,291 APPARENTLY, THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO MEET IN PLAZA DE MAYO. 253 00:17:46,291 --> 00:17:50,250 APPARENTLY THEY'RE MOTHERS AND FATHERS. 254 00:17:50,250 --> 00:17:53,416 HE WASN'T TOO SURE AT THAT STAGE. 255 00:17:53,416 --> 00:17:58,041 I THINK I'LL GO THERE TO FIND OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. 256 00:18:06,041 --> 00:18:09,083 Cox: I HEARD THAT PEOPLE WERE MEETING AT PLAZA DE MAYO 257 00:18:09,083 --> 00:18:11,208 AT AROUND ABOUT MIDNIGHT. 258 00:18:12,875 --> 00:18:15,000 SO I JUST JOINED THE CROWD THERE. 259 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,916 THERE WAS QUITE A CROWD, ABOUT 30 OR 40 PEOPLE. 260 00:18:17,916 --> 00:18:19,666 THE CROWD GREW DURING THE NIGHT 261 00:18:19,666 --> 00:18:22,833 BECAUSE WORD HAD SPREAD AROUND THAT THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY. 262 00:18:22,833 --> 00:18:25,041 AND THESE WERE PEOPLE WHO HAD GONE ABSOLUTELY CRAZY 263 00:18:25,041 --> 00:18:26,583 TRYING TO FIND OUT SOMETHING. 264 00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:37,416 Mother: AN ANSWER, THAT'S ALL. THEN, WE'LL LEAVE. 265 00:18:37,416 --> 00:18:40,458 Mother: MY DAUGHTER WAS 5 MONTHS' PREGNANT WHEN THEY TOOK HER. 266 00:18:40,458 --> 00:18:43,291 MY GRANDCHILD WAS DUE IN AUGUST LAST YEAR. 267 00:18:43,291 --> 00:18:45,833 I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED TO HIM. 268 00:18:45,833 --> 00:18:48,041 GIVE US OUR CHILDREN BACK! 269 00:18:48,041 --> 00:18:50,041 OUR CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN! 270 00:18:50,041 --> 00:18:51,791 WHY DON'T THEY SHOW THEIR FACES? 271 00:18:51,791 --> 00:18:53,041 Mother: BECAUSE THEY'RE COWARDS! 272 00:18:53,041 --> 00:18:56,125 [Mothers yell over one another] 273 00:18:56,291 --> 00:19:04,125 Marta Vásquez: WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE FACING. 274 00:19:04,958 --> 00:19:07,208 WE WERE TOTALLY UNAWARE. 275 00:19:07,208 --> 00:19:10,125 WE STARTED LOOKING FOR OUR CHILDREN. 276 00:19:10,125 --> 00:19:12,791 INSTEAD WE FOUND CLOSED DOORS, DEAF EARS 277 00:19:12,791 --> 00:19:17,500 FEAR, IGNORANCE AND MORE AND MORE REPRESSION. 278 00:19:17,916 --> 00:19:23,875 AT POLICE STATIONS, AT CHURCHES, AT THE DIOCESE. 279 00:19:23,875 --> 00:19:28,250 WE WENT TO GOVERNMENT OFFICES, TO THE INTERIOR MINISTRY. 280 00:19:29,041 --> 00:19:32,250 OF COURSE, WE NEVER RECEIVED A REPLY FROM THE POPE. 281 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:36,375 NOR FROM ANY OF THE FOLLOWING POPES. 282 00:19:37,541 --> 00:19:40,500 FROM NONE OF THEM. 283 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:42,875 AND WE WENT TO THE VATICAN... 284 00:19:42,916 --> 00:19:44,666 18 TIMES. 285 00:19:45,041 --> 00:19:50,083 THOSE PEOPLE IN SOCIETY WHO HADN'T BEEN DIRECTLY AFFECTED 286 00:19:51,208 --> 00:19:53,833 WAS TOTALY INDIFFERENT TOWARDS US. 287 00:19:55,041 --> 00:19:58,000 THEY THOUGHT THE MILITARY WAS DOING THE RIGHT THING. 288 00:19:58,375 --> 00:20:01,666 WE WENT TO THESE PLACES 289 00:20:01,666 --> 00:20:08,250 HOPING THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAD TO SAY: 290 00:20:08,250 --> 00:20:12,250 THAT OUR CHILDREN HAD BEEN TAKEN, HOW THEY WERE TAKEN, 291 00:20:12,291 --> 00:20:17,166 HOW WE WERE LEARNING ABOUT OTHER MOTHERS AND FAMILIES. 292 00:20:19,583 --> 00:20:22,875 Mother of Plaza de Mayo: THEY'VE TAKEN THE MOST PRECIOUS THING 293 00:20:22,875 --> 00:20:24,041 A MOTHER COULD EVER HAVE: HER CHILD. 294 00:20:24,041 --> 00:20:27,208 WE'RE UPSET BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE SICK, 295 00:20:27,208 --> 00:20:29,208 IF THEY'RE COLD, IF THEY'RE HUNGRY. 296 00:20:29,208 --> 00:20:31,208 WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. 297 00:20:31,208 --> 00:20:34,833 WE'RE DESPERATE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO TO TURN TO. 298 00:20:34,833 --> 00:20:40,375 CONSULATES, EMBASSIES, MINISTRIES, CHURCHES 299 00:20:40,375 --> 00:20:45,000 THEY'VE ALL CLOSED THEIR DOORS. 300 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,041 THAT'S WHY WE'RE BEGGING YOU. 301 00:20:49,041 --> 00:20:51,333 YOU'RE OUR LAST HOPE. 302 00:20:51,333 --> 00:20:53,333 PLEASE HELP US. 303 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,208 YOU'RE OUR LAST HOPE. 304 00:20:57,208 --> 00:21:00,500 [Sombre music] 305 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:11,333 [Noisy downtown streets] 306 00:21:15,166 --> 00:21:18,583 Pamela: YEAH, PEOPLE PRETENDED IT DIDN'T REALLY EXIST. 307 00:21:19,875 --> 00:21:22,416 EVEN WHEN I WOULD TELL FRIENDS ABOUT 308 00:21:22,416 --> 00:21:25,208 MY SPANISH TEACHER'S SON. 309 00:21:25,208 --> 00:21:26,875 OH, WELL, HE MUST HAVE BEEN INVOLVED. 310 00:21:26,875 --> 00:21:27,791 I THOUGHT: INVOLVED? 311 00:21:27,791 --> 00:21:29,791 HE WAS 15 YEARS OLD. WHAT WAS HE INVOLVED IN? 312 00:21:31,375 --> 00:21:35,208 Andrew: WE HAD READERS WHO READ THIS EVERY MORNING. 313 00:21:35,208 --> 00:21:36,791 AND I WENT AND SAW THEM YEARS LATER 314 00:21:36,791 --> 00:21:39,041 AND THEY DENIED THEY KNEW ANYTHING. 315 00:21:39,041 --> 00:21:41,958 YOU KNOW, SO WHAT WERE YOU READING? 316 00:21:43,166 --> 00:21:44,625 NO, NO, WE DIDN'T KNOW. 317 00:21:46,958 --> 00:21:50,041 WHEN I WANTED TO TALK TO MY FRIENDS ABOUT IT... 318 00:21:50,041 --> 00:21:55,375 I WOULD ASK THEM: HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THE DISAPPEARANCES? 319 00:21:55,375 --> 00:22:00,291 THIRTY YEARS LATER, THEY CLAIM THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 320 00:22:00,291 --> 00:22:03,166 I REPLY: "BUT WE SPOKE ABOUT IT". 321 00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:06,000 "WE DIDN'T BELIEVE YOU. WE COULDN'T BELIEVE YOU". 322 00:22:07,041 --> 00:22:10,125 Cox: IF YOU WERE JUST WALKING AROUND THE STREETS OF BUENOS AIRES 323 00:22:10,125 --> 00:22:13,791 YOU SAW THAT THERE WERE DEATH SQUADS MOVING AROUND. 324 00:22:13,791 --> 00:22:17,625 AND PEOPLE MANAGED NOT TO TAKE IT IN UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THEM 325 00:22:17,625 --> 00:22:19,916 AND MADE THEM REALIZE WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 326 00:22:19,916 --> 00:22:21,916 BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING ABOUT IT IN THE NEWSPAPERS, 327 00:22:21,916 --> 00:22:23,916 NOTHING ABOUT IT ON TELEVISION. 328 00:22:23,916 --> 00:22:26,541 MOST OF IT WAS CONTROLLED BY THE MILITARY. 329 00:22:26,541 --> 00:22:30,500 BUT THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY FOR THE PRESS 330 00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:34,166 TO PLAY ITS PROPER ROLE IN SIMPLY INFORMING PEOPLE. 331 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,083 Newsagent: WE'VE GOT ALL THE MAGAZINES AND NEWSPAPERS! 332 00:22:38,916 --> 00:22:40,625 Videla: I WOULD LIKE REPEAT 333 00:22:42,208 --> 00:22:46,583 HOW SATISFIED I'VE FELT BY BEING WITH YOU HERE TODAY. 334 00:22:46,583 --> 00:22:50,416 I'VE FELT AS IF I WERE AMONG FRIENDS, 335 00:22:50,416 --> 00:22:52,416 CURIOUS FRIENDS. 336 00:22:54,375 --> 00:22:57,208 YOU HAVE THE DUTY, THE OBLIGATION 337 00:22:57,208 --> 00:23:01,083 TO RESPONSIBLY INFORM AND FORM OPINIONS. 338 00:23:01,083 --> 00:23:03,541 IN LIGHT OF YOUR OBLIGATIONS 339 00:23:03,541 --> 00:23:06,083 I HAVE TRIED TO FULFILL MY OWN, 340 00:23:06,083 --> 00:23:10,541 BY GIVING YOU THE INFORMATION YOU NEEDED. 341 00:23:10,583 --> 00:23:13,791 YOUR QUESTIONS WERE LEGITIMATE. 342 00:23:13,791 --> 00:23:17,541 AND IT WAS MY DUTY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH ANSWERS. 343 00:23:20,166 --> 00:23:22,958 Judge: DO YOU KNOW IF THERE WERE ANY DIRECTIVES 344 00:23:22,958 --> 00:23:25,250 FROM THE GOVERNMENT TO THE PRESS 345 00:23:25,250 --> 00:23:30,416 ON THE WAY TO HANDLE ALLEGED HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS? 346 00:23:31,166 --> 00:23:33,041 Interpreter: DO YOU KNOW IF THERE WERE ANY DIRECTIVES 347 00:23:33,041 --> 00:23:36,208 FROM THE GOVERNMENT TO THE PRESS ON THE HANDLING 348 00:23:36,208 --> 00:23:39,625 OF NEWS ON HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS? 349 00:23:39,625 --> 00:23:43,625 Cox: THIS WAS ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE JIGSAW. 350 00:23:44,833 --> 00:23:48,375 QUITE SHORTLY AFTER THE COUP D'É-TAT, 351 00:23:48,375 --> 00:23:50,375 WHILE I, MYSELF... 352 00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:56,166 AND MY NEWSPAPER WERE STILL PRAISING THE ARMED FORCES 353 00:23:56,166 --> 00:23:59,500 FOR HAVING CARRIED OUT A BLOOD-LESS COUP... 354 00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:01,500 [Music] 355 00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:04,833 Cox: WE RECEIVED A TELEPHONE CALL IN THE NEWSPAPER 356 00:24:04,833 --> 00:24:08,125 INSTRUCTING US THAT FROM NOW ON WE WERE PROHIBITED 357 00:24:08,125 --> 00:24:10,625 FROM PUBLISHING ANY INFORMATION 358 00:24:10,625 --> 00:24:14,916 ABOUT THE DISAPPEARANCES OF PEOPLE 359 00:24:15,625 --> 00:24:17,875 THE DISCOVERY OF BODIES 360 00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:22,416 AND OTHER CRIMES CONNECTED WITH THE SUBVERSION 361 00:24:22,416 --> 00:24:25,750 WITHOUT OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION. 362 00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:28,416 Commentator: LUQUE TAKES THE BALL, A PASS TO KEMPES. 363 00:24:28,416 --> 00:24:31,625 HE SHOOTS AND IT'S A GOAL! 364 00:24:40,958 --> 00:24:43,541 Cox: SO INSTEAD OF STOPPING THE KILLING... 365 00:24:44,958 --> 00:24:49,000 THEY TRIED TO STOP PEOPLE REPORTING THE KILLING. 366 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,041 Commentator: THE WORLD CUP, THE BEST WORLD CUP 367 00:24:52,041 --> 00:24:54,250 EXTRAORDINARILY WELL ORGANIZED. 368 00:24:54,250 --> 00:24:59,041 25 MILLION ARGENTINES WEARING THE SAME COLORS: 369 00:24:59,041 --> 00:25:01,375 BLUE AND WHITE! 370 00:25:01,375 --> 00:25:04,458 THIS MARVELOUS COUNTRY... 371 00:25:04,458 --> 00:25:06,833 Cox: AND THEY CALLED US ALL IN AND THEY HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE. 372 00:25:06,833 --> 00:25:08,833 THEY SAID: "THE WORLD WILL BE WATCHING, 373 00:25:08,833 --> 00:25:12,333 YOU BETTER BE CAREFUL AND YOU BETTER BEHAVE YOURSELF." 374 00:25:13,708 --> 00:25:14,833 THAT PARTICULAR TIME 375 00:25:14,833 --> 00:25:16,958 BECAUSE IT WAS A JOURNALISTS AFFAIR, I SAID: 376 00:25:16,958 --> 00:25:21,333 "I HAVE A LIST OF THESE JOURNALISTS, WHERE ARE THEY? 377 00:25:21,333 --> 00:25:22,625 WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM?" 378 00:25:22,625 --> 00:25:24,583 AND I HAD MY TAPE RECORDER ON, WITHOUT REALIZING IT. 379 00:25:24,583 --> 00:25:27,708 IT DIDN'T DAWN ON ME UNTIL LATER ON THAT HE TOLD ME THEN: 380 00:25:27,708 --> 00:25:29,291 "WE'RE KILLING PEOPLE." 381 00:25:29,291 --> 00:25:35,625 HE SAID: "I CANNOT BE LIKE JESUS AND SAY 'LAZARUS, ARISE AGAIN'." 382 00:25:35,625 --> 00:25:38,208 NOTHING COULD HAVE BEEN CLEARER, THEY WERE ALL DEAD. 383 00:25:38,208 --> 00:25:42,333 BUT I KNEW EVER REALIZED THAT, I COULD NOT GRASP THAT. 384 00:25:42,333 --> 00:25:44,333 [Music] 385 00:25:55,541 --> 00:25:57,625 Cox: WE HAVEN'T ANY NEWS ABOUT THEM AT ALL. 386 00:25:57,625 --> 00:25:59,625 IT'S A TERRIBLE LIST. 387 00:25:59,625 --> 00:26:02,416 I THINK IT'S ABOUT 50 PEOPLE. 388 00:26:02,416 --> 00:26:07,291 50 JOURNALISTS, WHO HAVE EITHER VANISHED 389 00:26:07,291 --> 00:26:12,708 OR SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN FOUND DEAD, MURDERED. 390 00:26:13,375 --> 00:26:16,041 AND SOME OF THEM ARE STILL BEING HELD. 391 00:26:16,041 --> 00:26:18,625 THERE HAS BEEN SOME PROGRESS IN REGARD TO TIMERMAN. 392 00:26:18,625 --> 00:26:21,166 HE AT LEAST IS IN HOUSE ARREST NOW AND HE'S NOT IN JAIL, 393 00:26:21,166 --> 00:26:22,833 BUT WE HAVE NO NEWS ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE. 394 00:26:31,416 --> 00:26:35,333 Judge: DURING THE TIME YOU WERE IN CHARGE... 395 00:26:36,041 --> 00:26:38,916 OF THE BUENOS AIRES HERALD NEWSPAPER... 396 00:26:42,625 --> 00:26:51,291 DID YOU RECEIVE REPORTS OR VISITS FROM VICTIMS 397 00:26:51,291 --> 00:26:56,666 OR RELATIVES OF VICTIMS OF ALLEGED DISAPPEARANCES 398 00:26:56,666 --> 00:26:59,291 OR HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES? 399 00:26:59,291 --> 00:27:02,333 Cox: YES, HUNDREDS, POSSIBLY THOUSANDS. 400 00:27:02,333 --> 00:27:05,541 I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY. 401 00:27:05,583 --> 00:27:10,208 HUNDREDS, POSSIBLY MORE. MORE THAN ONE THOUSAND. 402 00:27:14,041 --> 00:27:15,791 Uki: THE HERALD WAS A GROUND FLOOR 403 00:27:15,791 --> 00:27:18,458 AND ON THE FIRST-FLOOR WAS THE NEWSROOM. 404 00:27:18,458 --> 00:27:21,291 SO THERE WAS THIS STAIR THAT WENT UP TO THE NEWSROOM. 405 00:27:21,291 --> 00:27:26,458 AND I HAVE THIS IMAGE OF THESE WOMEN COMING UP THE STAIRS, 406 00:27:26,458 --> 00:27:28,208 DRAGGING THEIR HUSBANDS WITH THEM 407 00:27:28,208 --> 00:27:30,833 AND THE HUSBANDS SAYING: 408 00:27:30,833 --> 00:27:32,208 "YOU CAN'T DO THIS, YOU'RE CRAZY." 409 00:27:32,208 --> 00:27:37,041 MY HUSBAND WAS AFRAID SOMETHING MIGHT HAPPEN TO ME. 410 00:27:37,041 --> 00:27:40,166 HE WAS TERRIFIED. 411 00:27:40,166 --> 00:27:45,958 I HAD THE BAD HABIT OF TELLING HIM EVERYTHING I WAS ABOUT TO DO. 412 00:27:45,958 --> 00:27:50,375 HE WOULD SAY: NO, NOT THAT. 413 00:27:50,416 --> 00:27:52,333 WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? 414 00:27:52,416 --> 00:27:55,333 DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, HE WOULD SAY. 415 00:27:55,333 --> 00:27:58,708 NO, DON'T WORRY, WE WON'T DO ANYTHING. 416 00:27:58,708 --> 00:28:03,166 I ASSURED HIM BUT THEN, WE DID WHATEVER WE WANTED. 417 00:28:06,333 --> 00:28:08,083 IS MY HEADSCARF ON OK? 418 00:28:10,666 --> 00:28:14,375 IT'S ALL VERY BLURRY. I'M 91 YEARS OLD, REMEMBER. 419 00:28:14,375 --> 00:28:18,041 SO, I CAN'T REMEMBER SOME THINGS. 420 00:28:19,458 --> 00:28:24,500 Carmen: YOYI SPOKE ENGLISH VERY WELL. 421 00:28:27,041 --> 00:28:33,250 Carmen: SO, SHE WAS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN ROBERT AND THE REST OF US. 422 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,875 Nora: ONE OF THE MOTHERS, RENE EPELBAUM, SPOKE ENGLISH. 423 00:28:39,875 --> 00:28:46,208 SHE WOULD BUY THE PAPER TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 424 00:28:46,208 --> 00:28:48,083 THAT'S... 425 00:28:48,083 --> 00:28:53,375 THAT'S HOW I FIRST HEARD OF THE BUENOS AIRES HERALD. 426 00:28:54,791 --> 00:28:58,583 Chicha: FOUR OF US GRANDMOTHERS WENT. 427 00:28:58,583 --> 00:29:01,416 WE MET WITH ROBERT COX. 428 00:29:03,083 --> 00:29:08,375 IT SEEMED UNREAL THAT SOMEONE WOULD LISTEN TO US SO ATTENTIVELY 429 00:29:08,375 --> 00:29:11,208 AND WOULD TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WERE GOING THROUGH. 430 00:29:12,791 --> 00:29:14,166 Uki: WHY ARE YOU COMING HERE? 431 00:29:14,166 --> 00:29:16,791 WE'RE A SMALL NEWSPAPER, WE'RE IN ENGLISH! 432 00:29:16,791 --> 00:29:18,625 WHY DON'T YOU GO TO THE THE BIG NEWSPAPERS? 433 00:29:18,625 --> 00:29:20,250 I WAS A LITTLE NAIVE AT THAT TIME. 434 00:29:20,250 --> 00:29:24,166 THEY JUST LAUGHED, NERVOUS LAUGHTER OF COURSE. 435 00:29:24,166 --> 00:29:26,458 THEY SAID: "WE'VE BEEN TO THE OTHER BIG NEWSPAPERS 436 00:29:26,458 --> 00:29:28,208 BUT THEY WON'T EVEN LET US IN THE DOOR." 437 00:29:28,208 --> 00:29:29,000 WHICH IS THE TRUTH. 438 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,875 I MUST HAVE BETTER MEMORIES 439 00:29:35,875 --> 00:29:39,875 BUT ROBERT'S KINDNESS! 440 00:29:42,041 --> 00:29:46,333 IT WAS LIKE GOING TO A FRIEND'S HOUSE, NOT TO A NEWSPAPER. 441 00:29:46,333 --> 00:29:50,208 HE WAS A FRIEND... 442 00:29:52,083 --> 00:29:54,166 A FRIEND WHO LISTENED TO US. 443 00:29:54,166 --> 00:29:58,458 [Crowd chanting] ALIVE, THEY TOOK THEM! ALIVE, WE WANT THEM BACK! 444 00:30:01,666 --> 00:30:03,750 Cox: THESE WERE SUCH HUMAN PEOPLE. 445 00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:07,041 IT WAS SUCH A HUMAN PREDICAMENT THAT THEY WERE IN. 446 00:30:07,041 --> 00:30:10,041 [Crowd chanting] 447 00:30:14,250 --> 00:30:19,125 THEY COLLECTED MONEY TO GIVE ME A SILVER CIGARETTE CASE. 448 00:30:19,125 --> 00:30:21,125 AMONG OTHER... I MEAN... 449 00:30:21,125 --> 00:30:25,833 ONE OF THEM, THEY GAVE ME AN ELECTRIC RAZOR! 450 00:30:33,916 --> 00:30:36,916 THESE WERE PEOPLE 451 00:30:36,916 --> 00:30:40,458 [Sad guitar music] 452 00:31:08,041 --> 00:31:10,875 Cox: WHEN YOU THINK OF WHAT THE MOTHERS DID, 453 00:31:10,875 --> 00:31:13,750 WHICH TO MY MIND IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. 454 00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:16,250 THEY WERE SO BRAVE AND SO COURAGEOUS. 455 00:31:16,250 --> 00:31:18,000 IT WAS WONDERFUL. 456 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,500 I THOUGHT ALL THE TIME: 457 00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:28,166 IT'S INCREDIBLE THAT YOU HAVE TO BE A MOTHER TO REALLY RESPOND. 458 00:31:28,166 --> 00:31:32,208 IT SOUNDS CRAZY BUT, MY GOD, 459 00:31:32,208 --> 00:31:34,458 IF IT HADN'T BEEN FOR THOSE MOTHERS WHO HAD 460 00:31:34,458 --> 00:31:38,791 THIS MATERNAL INSTINCT SO STRONG THAT THEY COULD NOT BE OVERCOME 461 00:31:38,791 --> 00:31:40,166 AND I REMEMBER TELLING HARGUINDEGUY: 462 00:31:40,166 --> 00:31:43,208 "YOU'RE GOING TO LOOSE, YOU'LL NEVER EVER STOP THEM. 463 00:31:43,208 --> 00:31:45,666 YOU'LL NEVER STOP THEM. THEY'LL GO ON AND ON AND ON. 464 00:31:45,666 --> 00:31:47,916 FOR GOD'S SAKE, DO SOMETHING FOR THEM. 465 00:31:47,916 --> 00:31:49,916 TELL THEM WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!" 466 00:31:50,083 --> 00:31:52,708 [Music] 467 00:32:00,208 --> 00:32:04,583 Interpreter: I RECEIVED MANY CALLS FROM GOVERNMENT HOUSE. 468 00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:07,750 Cox: AND I WAS TOLD THAT I SHOULD NOT 469 00:32:10,750 --> 00:32:12,083 Judge: PARDON, PARDON. 470 00:32:12,083 --> 00:32:15,041 DID YOU RECEIVE CALLS FROM GOVERNMENT HOUSE 471 00:32:15,041 --> 00:32:18,291 REGARDING ARTICLES TAT YOU WROTE 472 00:32:18,291 --> 00:32:21,750 WHICH WERE UPSETTING THE GOVERNMENT? 473 00:32:23,416 --> 00:32:23,750 [Cough] 474 00:32:33,416 --> 00:32:36,958 Cox: I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. 475 00:32:43,416 --> 00:32:48,791 Uki: BOB WAS VERY AWARE OF HOW DANGEROUS HIS WORK WAS. 476 00:32:49,166 --> 00:32:52,250 Cox: THE AVERAGE JOURNALIST HERE KNOWS THAT HE'S UNDER THREAT. 477 00:32:52,250 --> 00:32:55,166 IT CAN HAPPEN BECAUSE HE WRITES SOMETHING. 478 00:32:55,625 --> 00:32:58,375 BUT HE KNOWS HE CAN'T POSSIBLY AFFORD TO HAVE BODYGUARDS. 479 00:32:58,375 --> 00:33:01,708 HE CAN'T POSSIBLY AFFORD TO ASSUME THAT HIS LIFE IS IN DANGER. 480 00:33:01,708 --> 00:33:04,125 SO HE JUST ASSUMES HIS LIFE IS NOT IN DANGER. 481 00:33:04,125 --> 00:33:06,958 AND HE TAKES THE ORDINARY PRECAUTIONS THAT ANYBODY COULD DO. 482 00:33:06,958 --> 00:33:09,500 HE LOOKS TWICE OR THREE TIMES BEFORE HE GOES OUT IN THE MORNING. 483 00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:11,500 [Laughs] HE DOES THINGS LIKE THAT. 484 00:33:13,125 --> 00:33:15,625 Uki: HE WAS VERY INSISTENT ON SAYING: 485 00:33:15,625 --> 00:33:17,083 I'M GOING TO DO EVERYTHING. 486 00:33:17,083 --> 00:33:19,083 BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANYBODY AT RISK 487 00:33:19,083 --> 00:33:21,083 BY SENDING THEM OUT TO DO A STORY THAT COULD 488 00:33:21,083 --> 00:33:23,000 ENDANGER THEIR LIVES. 489 00:33:25,583 --> 00:33:26,833 I... I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS. 490 00:33:26,833 --> 00:33:30,416 I FIND IT VERY DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN THE SITUATION 491 00:33:30,416 --> 00:33:33,750 THAT I LIVED THROUGH FOR THOSE PARTICULAR TIMES. 492 00:33:36,375 --> 00:33:40,541 Andrew: THERE HAD BEEN TWO RAIDS ON THE HERALD. 493 00:33:40,541 --> 00:33:44,041 I WAS ARRESTED AT 3'OCLOCK IN THE MORNING. 494 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:52,500 THE POLICEMAN WHO FINALLY TOOK ME IN TO POLICE HEADQUARTERS 495 00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:56,125 SAID: "YOU'RE LUCKY MAN. YOU WERE DEAD". 496 00:33:56,125 --> 00:33:57,250 [Telephone rings] 497 00:33:57,250 --> 00:34:00,541 Pamela: HORRIBLE. IT WAS REALLY FRIGHTENING. 498 00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:05,625 AND YEAH. THERE WAS A GENERAL FEAR AND MALAISE. 499 00:34:06,083 --> 00:34:07,625 [Typewriter] 500 00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:13,250 Estela: HE WAS ALWAYS CONSISTENT, ALWAYS VERY OPEN. 501 00:34:13,250 --> 00:34:19,750 WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE DANGER HE WAS FACING. 502 00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:23,583 BUT I THINK HE DID. STILL, HE NEVER BACKED DOWN. 503 00:34:23,583 --> 00:34:25,583 [Wind] 504 00:34:25,583 --> 00:34:27,583 [Waves crashing] 505 00:34:43,708 --> 00:34:47,000 Cox: I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE. I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE. 506 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,375 NONE OF US DID. 507 00:34:49,375 --> 00:34:53,583 BUT MAUD WAS MUCH MORE SENSIBLE ABOUT THINGS THAN I WAS. 508 00:34:58,708 --> 00:35:01,625 WE HAD BEEN IN TOUCH WITH TWO FAMILIES OF TWO YOUNG MEN 509 00:35:01,625 --> 00:35:03,625 WHO WERE IN THE ESMA. 510 00:35:03,625 --> 00:35:05,458 THAT'S THE TORTURE CENTER. 511 00:35:05,458 --> 00:35:09,708 A HORRIBLE PLACE WHERE THEY PLAYED PSYCHOLOGICAL GAMES ON PEOPLE. 512 00:35:09,708 --> 00:35:11,500 AND WHERE PEOPLE WERE TAKEN OFF 513 00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:15,875 AFTER BEING GIVEN A SHOT OF PENTATHOL 514 00:35:15,875 --> 00:35:19,416 AND THEN THEY WERE TAKEN UP IN AEROPLANES AND THROWN INTO THE SEA. 515 00:35:19,416 --> 00:35:22,041 AND THESE TWO YOUNG PEOPLE HAD BEEN ALLOWED 516 00:35:22,041 --> 00:35:24,041 TO CALL THEIR PARENTS FROM ESMA. 517 00:35:24,541 --> 00:35:32,166 ON AUGUST 5, 1979, PABLO WAS AT HOME. 518 00:35:32,166 --> 00:35:36,708 THEY WERE WAITING FOR HIM 2 OR 3 BLOCKS AWAY, 519 00:35:36,708 --> 00:35:38,708 WHERE HIS TAXI WAS PARKED. 520 00:35:42,291 --> 00:35:44,541 WE STOPPED HEARING FROM HIM. 521 00:35:45,166 --> 00:35:46,500 A DAY WENT BY. 522 00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:50,625 WE DECIDED TO GO TO HOSPITALS, TO POLICE STATIONS, 523 00:35:50,625 --> 00:35:53,333 TO FIND OUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED. 524 00:35:53,833 --> 00:35:55,791 NOBODY KNEW ANYTHING. 525 00:35:55,791 --> 00:36:00,125 THIS WAS ONE OF THE CASES I NEVER WROTE A WORD ABOUT. 526 00:36:00,125 --> 00:36:02,458 I NEVER PUT THIS INTO THE NEWSPAPER 527 00:36:03,416 --> 00:36:04,458 BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO SEE 528 00:36:04,458 --> 00:36:07,375 IF THERE WAS ANOTHER WAY TO SAVE LIVES. 529 00:36:08,541 --> 00:36:10,958 SO, HE GRANTED US A MEETING. 530 00:36:12,166 --> 00:36:13,833 WHEN WE GOT THERE 531 00:36:13,833 --> 00:36:20,750 OF COURSE, ALL I DID BACK THEN, AND EVEN STILL TODAY, 532 00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:22,750 WAS CRY. 533 00:36:26,041 --> 00:36:30,291 WE MET COX AND HE WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE. 534 00:36:30,291 --> 00:36:36,291 I TOLD HIM I WANTED TO SPEAK WITH SOMEONE IN THE MILITARY. 535 00:36:36,291 --> 00:36:40,041 I WANTED TO EXPLAIN TO THEM WHO PABLO REALLY WAS. 536 00:36:40,041 --> 00:36:44,833 I HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THE MADNESS THAT WAS GOING ON. 537 00:36:44,833 --> 00:36:47,833 TIME AND TIME AGAIN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH FAMILIES. 538 00:36:47,833 --> 00:36:52,750 I WOULD SAY: "I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO PUBLISH SOMETHING." 539 00:36:52,750 --> 00:36:55,708 YOU NEEDED TO DO IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 540 00:36:55,708 --> 00:37:00,833 I KNEW BY THEN THAT SOMETIMES IF A LONG TIME HAD GONE BY, 541 00:37:00,833 --> 00:37:01,875 THERE WAS LESS CHANCE. 542 00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:08,041 COX BROUGHT ME UP TO SPEED. 543 00:37:11,833 --> 00:37:14,541 HE SAID: WE COULD PUBLISH THIS. 544 00:37:15,541 --> 00:37:19,083 MY HUSBAND SAID NO, AND I SAID YES. 545 00:37:19,083 --> 00:37:20,750 THEN, I SAID YES AND THEN, NO. 546 00:37:20,750 --> 00:37:24,791 I BELIEVED I COULD PERSUADE 547 00:37:25,458 --> 00:37:30,500 EITHER PRESIDENT VIDELA OR GENERAL HARDGUINDEGUY, 548 00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:32,750 THE MINISTER OF INTERIOR, 549 00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:36,875 TO BRING THEM TO TRIAL IF THEY WERE SUSPECTED OF SOMETHING. 550 00:37:37,375 --> 00:37:39,083 AND THEY SENT ME A TELEGRAM SAYING: 551 00:37:39,083 --> 00:37:41,083 "THEY'RE STILL WELL." 552 00:37:41,083 --> 00:37:43,083 AND THEY HAD THIS TERRIBLE EXPRESSION. 553 00:37:43,083 --> 00:37:45,083 THEY WERE TELLING THEIR PARENTS: 554 00:37:45,083 --> 00:37:49,333 "NO MUEVAN PAPELES". ESSENTIALLY SAYING: 555 00:37:49,333 --> 00:37:51,166 "DON'T DO ANYTHING, JUST KEEP QUIET." 556 00:37:51,833 --> 00:37:56,125 "MAM, DON'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU'LL GET ME IN TROUBLE. 557 00:37:56,125 --> 00:37:58,166 I'LL COME HOME SOON". 558 00:37:58,958 --> 00:38:03,250 IT WAS A LONG TIME BEFORE THE FAMILIES GAVE UP ALL HOPE. 559 00:38:04,833 --> 00:38:09,458 BUT AS I RECALL, THEY RECEIVED NO MORE TELEPHONE CALLS 560 00:38:09,458 --> 00:38:11,791 AFTER MARCH OF 1980. 561 00:38:11,791 --> 00:38:15,916 THEN I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM ONE OF THE MOTHERS 562 00:38:15,916 --> 00:38:21,375 IN WHICH SHE ASKED ME TO CRY TO THE HEAVENS 563 00:38:21,375 --> 00:38:26,958 BECAUSE SHE WAS NOW CERTAIN THAT HER SON HAD BEEN MURDERED. 564 00:38:26,958 --> 00:38:31,416 [Music] 565 00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:37,083 [Wind, waves crashing] 566 00:38:44,833 --> 00:38:48,041 Cox: THE WAY I SAW IT WAS THAT OUR JOB WAS TO TRY AND SAVE LIVES. 567 00:38:48,041 --> 00:38:51,250 THAT'S THE WAY I LOOKED AT IT. 568 00:38:51,250 --> 00:38:56,666 I IMAGINE THAT IT'S NOT WITHIN THE ETHICS OF JOURNALISM. 569 00:38:56,666 --> 00:38:59,041 BUT TO MY MIND IT IS. 570 00:38:59,041 --> 00:39:01,041 [Music] 571 00:39:20,958 --> 00:39:28,625 Consuelo: I SHOULD BEGIN BY EXPLAINING HOW I FIRST HEARD THE NAME BOB COX. 572 00:39:29,416 --> 00:39:33,541 I WAS BEING HELD AT THE VILLA DEVOTO PRISON 573 00:39:33,541 --> 00:39:36,500 DURING THE MILITARY DICTATORSHIP. 574 00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:41,083 I HADN'T HAD A VISITOR IN OVER 3 MONTHS 575 00:39:41,083 --> 00:39:43,541 BECAUSE I HAD BEEN IN SOLITORY CONFINEMENT. 576 00:39:43,541 --> 00:39:46,083 UNTIL ONE DAY 577 00:39:46,083 --> 00:39:50,541 SOMEONE ORGANIZED FOR MY FATHER TO VISIT ME. 578 00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:54,791 THE FIRST WORDS MY FATHER SAID 579 00:39:54,791 --> 00:39:58,791 AMID THE EXCITEMENT AND TEARS, WERE: 580 00:39:58,791 --> 00:40:01,333 IF IT WEREN'T FOR THAT MAN. 581 00:40:01,375 --> 00:40:03,375 AND HE REPEATED IT TWO OR THREE TIMES. 582 00:40:05,125 --> 00:40:08,250 I THOUGHT: WHO ON EARTH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? 583 00:40:11,708 --> 00:40:17,125 Roberto: SOME NAVAL OFFICERS CAME TO SEE ME CARRYING A NEWSPAPER CLIPPING. 584 00:40:19,541 --> 00:40:24,375 IT HAD BEEN PUBLISHED IN AN ENGLISH-LANGUAGE NEWSPAPER 585 00:40:24,375 --> 00:40:26,375 THE BUENOS AIRES HERALD. 586 00:40:27,250 --> 00:40:33,541 FROM THAT MOMENT ON, WHEN THEY CAME TO ME AND SAID: 587 00:40:33,583 --> 00:40:35,583 LOOK WHAT YOUR MOTHER HAS PUBLISHED. 588 00:40:38,416 --> 00:40:43,291 MY LIFE AND MY PARTNER'S LIVES WERE SAVED. 589 00:40:46,583 --> 00:40:53,500 Consuelo: WHAT WAS THIS MAN DOING PRINTING OUR STORY ON THE FRONT PAGE? 590 00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:55,875 WHY WAS HE DOING IT? 591 00:40:56,208 --> 00:40:59,458 [Music] 592 00:40:59,458 --> 00:41:04,583 MR COX, YOU'VE WORKED AS A JOURNALIST IN ARGENTINA FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS. 593 00:41:04,583 --> 00:41:07,291 WHY HAVE YOU DECIDED TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY NOW? 594 00:41:07,291 --> 00:41:10,458 I HAVEN'T DECIDED TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY PERMANENTLY I HOPE. 595 00:41:10,458 --> 00:41:14,500 BUT THERE HAVE BEEN A SPATE OF THREATS RECENTLY 596 00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:16,500 THAT HAS ZEROED IN ON THE FAMILY 597 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:20,791 CULMINATING IN A LETTER TO MY 10-YEAR-OLD SON. 598 00:41:20,791 --> 00:41:24,833 MORE OR LESS TELLING US TO GET OUT OF THE COUNTRY OR 599 00:41:24,833 --> 00:41:28,666 SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN TO THE FAMILY. 600 00:41:28,666 --> 00:41:30,666 [Music] 601 00:41:30,666 --> 00:41:32,666 Uki: I THINK BOB IN THIS CHILDISH WAY 602 00:41:32,666 --> 00:41:36,250 WAS STILL FIGHTING THE NAZIS BACK IN LONDON AS A KID, 603 00:41:36,250 --> 00:41:38,166 BUT AS A GROWNUP IN ARGENTINA. 604 00:41:39,875 --> 00:41:45,250 BUT THE REALITY WAS A LITTLE BIT LOST TO HIM. 605 00:41:45,250 --> 00:41:48,250 I THINK MAUD WAS SO MUCH MORE AWARE 606 00:41:48,250 --> 00:41:52,458 OF HOW MUCH THE LIVES OF THE WHOLE FAMILY WERE AT RISK. 607 00:41:55,541 --> 00:41:59,750 Maud: IT WAS THE LETTER WHAT TRIGGERED OUR DEPARTURE. 608 00:42:04,791 --> 00:42:10,541 I SAID: "NO, WE HAVE TO GO, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN." 609 00:42:12,083 --> 00:42:16,708 SO WE LEFT, WE LEFT FOUR DAYS LATER. 610 00:42:16,708 --> 00:42:19,916 BOB WROTE IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT WE WERE LEAVING. 611 00:42:19,916 --> 00:42:24,458 AND WE LEFT THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR, WE DIDN'T ESCAPE. 612 00:42:30,291 --> 00:42:31,916 WELL, IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL RESPONSE 613 00:42:32,416 --> 00:42:35,333 PEOPLE EVEN HAVE WRITTEN LETTERS TO MY CHILDREN REASSURING THEM, AND 614 00:42:35,958 --> 00:42:37,750 AND SAYING THEY FEEL VERY SORRY FOR WHAT'S HAPPENED 615 00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:38,750 AND THAT'S NOT ARGENTINA 616 00:42:38,750 --> 00:42:40,333 I KNOW IT'S NOT ARGENTINA WE ALL LOVE ARGENTINA 617 00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:44,000 THE FAMILY OF COURSE DIDN'T WANT TO GO 618 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,041 THE LITTLE BOY WHO GOT THE THREAT 619 00:42:45,041 --> 00:42:46,958 IS THE MOST ARGENTINE OF MY CHILDREN 620 00:42:46,958 --> 00:42:48,458 THEY WERE ALL BORN IN ARGENTINA 621 00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:50,875 HE'S VERY MUCH A FOOTBALL FAN, 622 00:42:50,875 --> 00:42:53,041 BUT THIS HAPPENED AND IT REALLY UPSET THEM 623 00:42:53,041 --> 00:42:55,041 ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE THEY'VE LIVED THROUGH 624 00:42:55,625 --> 00:42:57,166 HE DOES WANT TO GO HOME 625 00:42:57,166 --> 00:42:59,166 HE'S EVEN PREPARED TO LEAVE HIS LITTLE FRIENDS 626 00:43:07,583 --> 00:43:10,625 Marta: WE FEARED FOR HIM. 627 00:43:10,625 --> 00:43:13,375 "Robert Cox, the worthy journalist, the upstanding man" 628 00:43:13,375 --> 00:43:19,041 Marta: WE WERE VERY UPSET TO HEAR THAT THEY THREATENED HIM. 629 00:43:19,791 --> 00:43:24,916 BUT ULTIMATELY WE HAD TO SUPPORT HIS DECISION TO LEAVE 630 00:43:24,916 --> 00:43:30,875 SO THAT NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN TO HIM OR HIS FAMILY. 631 00:43:39,250 --> 00:43:43,708 Marta: HE WAS SO COMPASSIONATE, SO HELPFUL. 632 00:43:43,708 --> 00:43:46,041 A TRUE COMRADE. 633 00:43:54,916 --> 00:43:57,833 "The Trial of the Century" 634 00:43:57,833 --> 00:44:02,875 [Cameras flashing] 635 00:44:07,250 --> 00:44:09,416 Court clerk: PLEASE STAND, GENTLEMEN. 636 00:44:25,625 --> 00:44:27,208 Judge: PLEASE BE SEATED. 637 00:44:27,208 --> 00:44:29,375 Prosecutor Strassera: YOU HONORS... 638 00:44:31,250 --> 00:44:35,250 WITH THIS TRIAL AND THE SENTENCES I PROPOSE 639 00:44:35,250 --> 00:44:39,583 IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ESTABLISH A SENSE OF PEACE. 640 00:44:39,583 --> 00:44:41,625 A PEACE BASED ON REMEMBRANCE. 641 00:44:41,625 --> 00:44:44,291 NOT ON VIOLENCE BUT ON JUSTICE. 642 00:44:44,291 --> 00:44:48,041 THIS IS PERHAPS OUR ONLY OPPORTUNITY. 643 00:44:50,125 --> 00:44:53,041 FOR THESE SAME REASONS, 644 00:44:53,041 --> 00:44:58,625 I ACCUSE THE DEFENDANTS OF THE CRIMES FOR WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN CHARGED 645 00:44:58,625 --> 00:45:04,541 AND I REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING SENTENCES: 646 00:45:04,583 --> 00:45:06,416 JORGE RAFAEL VIDELA. 647 00:45:06,416 --> 00:45:12,583 LIFE IMPRISONMENT PLUS THE ATTACHMENT OF SECTION 52 OF THE CRIMINAL CODE. 648 00:45:12,583 --> 00:45:14,833 EMILIO EDUARDO MASSERA. 649 00:45:14,833 --> 00:45:20,291 LIFE IMPRISONMENT PLUS THE ATTACHMENT OF SECTION 52 OF THE CRIMINAL CODE. 650 00:45:20,291 --> 00:45:22,250 ORLANDO RAMÓN AGOSTI. 651 00:45:22,250 --> 00:45:26,708 LIFE IMPRISONMENT PLUS THE ATTACHMENT OF SECTION 52 OF THE CRIMINAL CODE. 652 00:45:26,708 --> 00:45:28,583 YOU HONORS, 653 00:45:28,583 --> 00:45:34,625 I WISH TO RELINQUISH ANY PRETENSIONS OF ORIGINALITY AS I END THIS INDICTMENT. 654 00:45:34,625 --> 00:45:37,625 I WISH TO USE A PHRASE THAT DOESN'T BELONG TO ME. 655 00:45:37,625 --> 00:45:41,041 IT IS A PHRASE THAT INSTEAD BELONGS TO THE ARGENTINE PEOPLE. 656 00:45:41,041 --> 00:45:43,666 YOUR HONORS: NEVER AGAIN! 657 00:45:43,666 --> 00:45:45,958 Judge: SILENCE IN THE COURTROOM! 658 00:45:45,958 --> 00:45:48,041 [Applause from the public] 659 00:45:48,041 --> 00:45:52,708 [Louder applause as Cox opens the door] 660 00:45:54,416 --> 00:45:56,958 Judge: PLEASE, SILENCE IN THE COURTROOM! 661 00:45:56,958 --> 00:45:59,375 Court clerk: PLEASE STAND, GENTLEMEN. 662 00:45:59,375 --> 00:46:02,666 Judge: SILENCE IN THE COURTROOM! 663 00:47:10,041 --> 00:47:13,000 Marta: IT'S NOT EASY TO SPEAK HERE TODAY. 664 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:17,208 THE MEMORIES COME RUSHING BACK. 665 00:47:18,875 --> 00:47:19,541 ESPECIALLY OF THE FIRST YEARS OF OUR STRUGGLE ALONGSIDE YOYI. 666 00:47:19,541 --> 00:47:22,833 [Music] ESPECIALLY OF THE FIRST YEARS OF OUR STRUGGLE ALONGSIDE YOYI. 667 00:47:22,833 --> 00:47:26,958 ESPECIALLY OF THE FIRST YEARS OF OUR STRUGGLE ALONGSIDE YOYI. 668 00:47:30,208 --> 00:47:37,166 WE ADMIRED HER FOR HER DETERMINATION, FOR HER WILL TO KEEP LIVING. 669 00:47:38,958 --> 00:47:45,708 SHE REPRESENTED US ABROAD, ESPECIALLY IN ENGLISH-SPEAKING COUNTRIES. 670 00:47:46,875 --> 00:47:53,541 THOSE OF US WHO WERE CLOSEST TO HER MISS HER PROFOUNDLY. 671 00:47:53,541 --> 00:47:58,166 AND IT STILL PAINS US TO THINK OF EVERYTHING SHE WENT THROUGH. 672 00:47:58,166 --> 00:48:02,083 IT WAS INCOMPREHENSIBLE 673 00:48:02,083 --> 00:48:06,708 HOW WAS IT POSSIBLE? 674 00:48:06,708 --> 00:48:10,875 THAT THEY HAD TAKEN AWAY ALL 3 OF HER CHILDREN? 675 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:17,708 AS MOTHERS, WE FEEL VERY CLOSE TO THEM. 676 00:48:17,708 --> 00:48:23,708 AND WE KNOW THAT WE ARE APPROACHING THE END 677 00:48:23,708 --> 00:48:27,875 BUT WE WANT EVERYONE 678 00:48:27,875 --> 00:48:32,083 TO RECOGNIZE WHAT HAPPENED HERE. 679 00:48:32,083 --> 00:48:35,958 WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR CHILDREN? 680 00:48:35,958 --> 00:48:38,208 WHERE ARE THEY? 681 00:48:38,416 --> 00:48:45,000 WE WANT THEIR MEMORY 682 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,916 TO LIVE ON FOREVER. 683 00:48:47,916 --> 00:48:52,375 FOR THE 30 THOUSAND DISAPPEARED ONES. 684 00:48:52,375 --> 00:48:58,708 FOR YOYI, FOR LILA AND HER BROTHERS. 685 00:48:58,708 --> 00:49:02,291 EVER ONWARD TO VICTORY! 686 00:49:02,291 --> 00:49:05,666 [Music] 687 00:49:05,666 --> 00:49:09,208 [Ovation from the crowd] 688 00:49:30,458 --> 00:49:34,541 Consuelo: FINDING BOB WAS LIKE FINDING MY FATHER AGAIN. 689 00:49:34,583 --> 00:49:36,791 MY FATHER HAD ALREADY PASSED AWAY. 690 00:49:36,791 --> 00:49:39,750 I FEEL HUGE ADMIRATION FOR HIM. 691 00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:44,625 BOB IS A VERY SIMPLE MAN, A VERY HUMBLE MAN. 692 00:49:46,958 --> 00:49:48,541 Nora: IT'S BEEN 40 YEARS. 693 00:49:48,541 --> 00:49:50,875 Cox: EXACTLY. BUT YOU'RE ALL BETTER THAN EVER. 694 00:49:50,875 --> 00:49:52,875 [Nora laughs] 695 00:49:53,416 --> 00:49:55,083 Cox: IT'S REALLY GREAT TO SEE YOU. 696 00:49:55,291 --> 00:49:59,208 Roberto: IN TIME, I GOT UP THE COURAGE. 697 00:49:59,208 --> 00:50:02,208 I CALLED THE HERALD'S NEWSROOM. 698 00:50:02,208 --> 00:50:04,208 THEY GAVE ME HIS DETAILS. 699 00:50:11,458 --> 00:50:13,541 Roberto: HE GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY 700 00:50:13,541 --> 00:50:16,833 TO THANK HIM FOR EVERYTHING HE HAD DONE 701 00:50:16,833 --> 00:50:20,333 FOR US AND FOR SO MANY PEOPLE. 702 00:50:20,333 --> 00:50:28,416 HE HAS THE AGE AND EXPERIENCE TO BE EXTREMELY HUMBLE. 703 00:50:31,083 --> 00:50:35,250 Consuelo: HE TREATS YOU AS IF YOU WERE PART OF HIS FAMILY. 704 00:50:35,291 --> 00:50:38,708 NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE. 705 00:50:45,958 --> 00:50:49,125 Consuelo: TO THIS DAY, HE TELLS ME: I DIDN'T DO ENOUGH. 706 00:50:49,125 --> 00:50:51,000 I SHOULD HAVE DONE MORE. 707 00:50:59,041 --> 00:51:02,916 UNDER BOB'S LEADERSHIP, 708 00:51:02,916 --> 00:51:04,916 THEY DID WHAT THEY HAD TO DO. 709 00:51:04,916 --> 00:51:07,041 THEY SIMPLY DID WHAT HAD TO BE DONE. 710 00:51:08,958 --> 00:51:12,625 I AM VERY FOND OF THEM, OF BOB ESPECIALLY. 711 00:51:12,625 --> 00:51:15,708 AND I KNOW THAT SOMEHOW, 712 00:51:15,708 --> 00:51:17,708 I OWE HIM MY LIFE. 713 00:51:18,375 --> 00:51:21,833 COX SAVED MY LIFE AND MY DAUGHTERS' LIVES. 714 00:51:21,833 --> 00:51:23,833 [Music] 54385

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