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I was in shock.
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I didn't view that people
would want to hurt Byron at all.
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Byron griffy took care
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of a lot of funerals for my family.
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He was a good man.
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There's a darker side to
Byron that people didn't know.
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The relationship between
Tommy and Byron turned into eating
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Turkey pot pies and watching porn.
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I didn't see that Tommy
had any motive to do it.
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When we found out my dad was shot,
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the first person I thought
of was Cory higgs.
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Cory is my son.
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Charles and Anthony's
stories were falling apart.
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They were the last ones to see Byron,
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so that made it a possibility.
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After Byron died, they start buying boats
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and they start spending money like crazy.
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They had a motive to kill my dad.
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It's all about money.
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I don't like to use the
term "fighting for your life,"
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but that's what it felt like.
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We were ready to make arrests,
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but now we had another
dead body on our hands.
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I was a police officer in Florence
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in the city manager's office...
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He gets a phone call
that they're calling medical
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to Charles and Anthony's house.
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So I go racing to the scene
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and I find Charles on
the floor of the bathroom.
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It was obvious that he was deceased.
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The ambulance came
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and the police covered
the whole property
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with caution tape.
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I remember being out on the yard,
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you know, and everybody
hoping, hoping, hoping
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that it was good news.
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And I just remember
just shaking my head, like,
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"there is no good news."
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It was terribly sad.
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At that time, Charles was mayor.
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And that afternoon,
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I went to the city council meeting.
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And about halfway through the meeting,
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the chief of police comes in.
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He said, "look, we've
found Charles dead."
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I couldn't believe it.
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After I got that phone
call, I drove to Charles
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and Anthony's house. I
don't have any idea why.
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And I sat across the
street from their house.
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I just cried and cried the anger.
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Like, "how could you do this"
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"so that you didn't have
to answer for my dad?
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If you were going "to kill yourself today,
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you could have told me last night."
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I never in a million
years saw this coming.
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The fact that Charles died
was just a punch in the stomach.
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We're drafting the arrest
warrant for both of them
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to be charged with murder at that time.
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When Charles' death occurred,
we kind of took a step back.
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It was like, "what else, you know,
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are we going to see in this case?"
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Well, I was at work.
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Somebody called me
and said, "Charles died."
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I mean, I was just shocked, just stunned.
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My first thought was suicide.
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Some of us knew that he was
being investigated for murder
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of Byron griffy,
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and I felt like he took the easy way out.
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Charles may not have
ever seen a way out.
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I mean, how could you ever recover
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from the mountain of lies?
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You start with the brothers.
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I mean, think about it...
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keeping up appearances,
that's all they had done
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since they had got to Florence.
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The whole church
thing, was it all just fake?
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Will we ever know the truth
of happened to Irene witty?
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What happened to all of Byron's gold?
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These were life-changing
lies. Well, where's the end?
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The end for Charles was his death.
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The last time I talked to Charles was
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the day before he died.
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And he told me,
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"I'm not going to cause
you any more trouble.
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"We can work through this.
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"We can take care of
the business dealings
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and do what needs to be done."
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And that was pretty much it.
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I really wasn't sad about
Charles passing away
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because that was a part of my life
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that I had already chosen to leave.
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I know that sounds heartless, but...
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After what I had been through,
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that was just a small
hiccup in the general scheme.
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Laura and I were trying
to get things worked out
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and figured out where we
were going to go from there.
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At this point in the investigation,
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we brought the last person
that saw Charles alive in
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to interview him, a guy named cj young.
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Ok.
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As far as Charles' death,
your cop brain is thinking,
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"he's guilty, so he killed himself."
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Part of me thinks he had medications
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and did he overdose?
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Who knows? I mean, it's all suspicious
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any way you look at it.
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I didn't think that Charles was suicidal.
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The police were trying to
push him to crack, basically,
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for no reason. He didn't do the crime.
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The next week after Tony left,
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Charles was getting everything
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set up to go forward without Tony.
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He didn't plan to die.
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I had heard from my son, Eric,
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that Charles got his hair frosted,
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Charles got his ears pierced,
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Charles ordered a teeth-whitening kit,
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Charles called... This guy
and asked him, you know,
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"where does an old queen like me
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go to hook up these days?"
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No, I wouldn't say he committed suicide.
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I got the impression he had plans.
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We all gonna have to
answer for whatever happens,
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but if you have a good
life, and all of a sudden
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it's brought to an end, it's sad.
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It's very sad.
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Look it, he was only 52.
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He had wonderful cars,
beautiful church and a mansion,
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lovely mortuary... having
stuff, and more stuff
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isn't the answer.
Guess we found that out.
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Charles' death made me stop and think,
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"did Anthony have
something to do with this?"
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I heard people talking
about how, "that must be nice.
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Now you don't have
to deal with any of that."
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Well, it wasn't nice. I
was considered a suspect.
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It very clearly looks like
Anthony would be the one
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that gains the most
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because I know that, with Charles alive,
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that was going to be a huge battle.
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Tony definitely had a
motive to get rid of Charles
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because everything
was in Charles' name.
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I think if Charles was still alive,
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Tony could have ended up with nothing.
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Tony is unassuming and you
wouldn't think he's dangerous.
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But as far as Charles
and Anthony's relationship,
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Anthony was the muscle.
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If there was somebody who
was gonna get their hands dirty...
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or bloody, it was gonna be Anthony.
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Anthony had a lot to
gain from Charles dying.
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Now Anthony could
point the fingers at Charles
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for Byron's death.
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I knew that because Charles was gone,
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Tony was now the prime suspect
in the murder of Byron griffy.
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It was hard to kind of look
at Tony and not sit there
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and question, like, "what's going on?"
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Like, "are you a murderer?"
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After Charles died,
there were a lot of rumors
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one of the rumors around
town was that he'd offed himself
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because he killed Byron griffy.
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Or maybe he offed himself
because Tony broke up with him.
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You know, small town stories.
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There was a lot of rumors
about my brother Tommy
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with Anthony and his half brother.
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Everybody in town
calls it the love triangle.
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Supposedly, he had...
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It was a love triangle
between Anthony and Charles,
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Byron and my brother Tommy.
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Yeah, it's square, but they called it
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"the love triangle."
Because there's four, yes.
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You know, every rumor
ever just starts coming out,
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like Charles and Anthony
teaming up with linette
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and Gina to kill Byron.
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As a gay person myself,
it's just borderline offensive
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that that's what people thought.
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You couldn't really talk
to anyone that didn't think
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that something was
up with Charles' death,
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and the only person
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you could really look at was Anthony.
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It was really easy to think
that if anyone had the access,
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opportunity, and motive
to tamper with his medicine,
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it would be Anthony,
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and it would look like what happened.
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After Charles's death, the
autopsy report came back.
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There was no poison in his system,
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and that he had died of natural causes.
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It was a massive heart
attack that killed Charles.
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Under all that stress,
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your lover left you for another person.
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You're probably gonna
go to prison for murder.
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That's a lot of stress on a guy
who already had a bad heart.
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The official story is
that his heart gave out.
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If you want to romanticize
it, he died of a broken heart.
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The CBI used Charles' death
to be able to get warrants
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and to go search my old house.
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In the basement, they had
what they called the gun room.
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They had guns in boxes.
They had them on the rack.
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They had them all over the place.
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During that search
warrant in Charles' bedroom,
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in the back of a closet,
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they found a hidden compartment.
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And in that hidden compartment
were several boxes of coins,
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one of which had
Byron griffy's name on it.
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They were hidden.
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Why weren't they turned
back over to his daughter?
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My dad trusted them.
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They were his friends,
and they were helping him
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by making sure that his money was safe.
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But they already had stolen from him.
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There's no explanation as to
where my dad's money went.
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I believe that Byron probably
had close to a million dollars
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in collectible stamps
and coins and currency.
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And he had a lot of gold.
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Linette and Gina never saw
any gold returned to them.
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What happened to all the gold?
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I suspect Charles and
Tony had a lot to do
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with Byron's gold disappearing.
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Neither of us took anything of Byron's.
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When the investigator came
in and took a bunch of coins,
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there was one that did
have Byron's name on it,
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but the other coins were
actually my collection
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they had linette griffy
identify them as Byron's coins,
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but they weren't... they were mine.
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The coins that Byron
had us store for him,
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Byron ended up selling most of it to...
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Some guy out of the Springs,
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but I wasn't even there
when he came to pick it up.
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I was working on the crematory that day.
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Anthony's default position
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on anything potentially
criminal in this case
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was he knows nothing and saw nothing,
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including the death of Byron griffy.
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Charles' memorial was
held at Florence high school
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in the auditorium, and, you know,
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it had a really huge turnout.
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He was the mayor at the time.
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They owned multiple
businesses along main street.
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They had the church,
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and so most of the town was there.
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I stayed away from Charles's funeral,
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just because I didn't
want it turning into a circus.
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I knew there was gonna be police there.
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One of the church members
was speaking to everyone,
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and he said, "Charles's
brother must just be so upset
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that he couldn't make it,
and our hearts are with him."
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And me just shaking my head in disbelief
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in that the entire town is in this room
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and they all believe
something that's not true.
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Some of the members of the community
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wanted to put a statue
up of him out by city hall.
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And it's like, "well, wait a few weeks."
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"You might see his
face on the front page
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for something else."
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Charles was very good at telling stories,
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and no one really
thought to question him.
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Charles once told me about his ex-wife
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and the two kids that he had.
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And it was just like these grand stories.
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So you would get sucked into them,
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but they were always a little unbelievable.
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The son, he said, was in the air force,
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a pilot or something.
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And then the daughter was a scientist.
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Charles would pretend that
he was talking to one of them
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or that he just got off the
phone with one of them.
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We always believed the
story about Charles having
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two children, and one in the air force.
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But... it was a lie, a huge lie.
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Our view was that Charles had been
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the mastermind of all of it,
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and that when his death occurred,
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my entire focus became
"how to prosecute this crime."
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We had to reevaluate if we
had enough evidence to charge
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just Anthony in the death of Byron griffy.
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After Charles died,
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I was just trying to survive, pretty much.
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Still trying to run the businesses.
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But the last two payrolls,
I had to cover myself
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out of my own pocket.
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And that's when I decided
to close the funeral home.
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I don't know, it just
didn't seem like a place
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I wanted to be anymore.
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I found the person that I
believe I was meant to be with
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for the rest of my life.
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Charles and Anthony kept
that relationship a secret
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for over 20 years.
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I'm not gonna lie, I
was pretty devastated.
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And I wasn't devastated
about the type of relationship.
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It was the fact that it was a lie.
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Then I thought, "would my life be better
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with him or without him?"
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And there was no... There was no delay.
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Anthony and my mom
rushed to get married.
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My mom had me be her
wedding photographer.
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From their point of view,
a murder investigation
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was a side thing that was like,
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"don't worry about this... Murder."
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They didn't have squat for evidence.
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I kept thinking,
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"did the cops come
up with something else?
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Is there something else?"
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And there never was any...
anything else that I heard.
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Charles' death made
us reanalyze everything.
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So, there was a significant
delay before we ultimately
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filed the charges.
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I got a call from chief
of police from Florence.
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And he told me, we've
got your coins here,
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if you can come down and pick them up.
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So I get in the car,
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I go down, and that's
when I was arrested.
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It was all a setup just
to get me to come in.
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Once we knew Anthony
was going on trial,
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he very quickly started liquidating
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anything that he could,
and with the help of my mom,
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trying to get enough
money to pay for his defense.
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First attorney I had said,
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"people always ask,
how much does it cost
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to defend against a charge
of first-degree murder?"
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And he said, "everything."
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And he wasn't kidding.
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Everything started getting sold
to try and pay attorney's fees.
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All of the vehicles.
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It was everything.
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I have been a criminal
defense investigator
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for about 45 years.
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Lawyers representing people charged
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hire me to investigate
the case for the defense.
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I've met with thousands of clients,
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and some of them would just flat say,
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"you know, I did it, and it's your job
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to help me get off."
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00:20:21,420 --> 00:20:23,010
But that wasn't Anthony.
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00:20:23,130 --> 00:20:27,890
Anthony was, "they're
wrong. We didn't do it."
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And he was determined
to be found innocent
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of something he kept
maintaining that he didn't do.
335
00:20:36,190 --> 00:20:39,110
The case against
Anthony was circumstantial.
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Juries like meat.
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They want to be able
to find DNA at the scene,
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fingerprints, hair fibers,
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00:20:48,620 --> 00:20:51,096
something to put the suspect there.
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00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:54,846
And, in this case, there
was no such evidence.
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00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:57,380
Everything in my mind
pointed to Charles and Anthony
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as committing the crime.
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The fact that they're there at the farm,
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easy access to a weapon, he had motive.
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I believed I was gonna be
able to meet that obligation
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of proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
347
00:21:12,060 --> 00:21:14,560
Anytime somebody's
charged with a crime,
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the defense attorneys have an obligation
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to investigate.
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00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:25,256
So I spent a good five months
trying to contact witnesses,
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00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:31,290
going through police reports,
documents, photographs, videos.
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00:21:31,410 --> 00:21:36,120
And finally, I stumble into a 911 call
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made by a fella named Rob...
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A few months after the murder.
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He basically said, "I have information
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00:22:05,820 --> 00:22:10,700
that Tommy tomlin is
involved in Byron's murder."
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00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:34,310
We knew Rob could change everything.
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00:22:35,310 --> 00:22:38,810
So, of course, I want to find Rob,
359
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,450
A few months after Byron's death,
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00:22:54,580 --> 00:22:57,926
a fella named Rob called
the 911 operator and said,
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00:22:57,950 --> 00:23:02,186
"I have information that
Tommy tomlin is involved
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00:23:02,210 --> 00:23:06,710
in Byron's murder and
that he told me he was."
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00:23:08,090 --> 00:23:12,526
So I, of course, had
been looking for Rob.
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00:23:12,550 --> 00:23:17,180
And as it turned out,
Rob died about a year
365
00:23:17,310 --> 00:23:19,520
before I was able to try to interview him.
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00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,126
And I couldn't go into any
more detail than what appeared
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00:23:23,150 --> 00:23:25,360
in the police reports.
368
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,166
Those reports were
just handwritten notes.
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00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:31,530
The deputy that took
the statement from him,
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00:23:31,660 --> 00:23:34,006
he said he didn't pay attention to it
371
00:23:34,030 --> 00:23:37,846
and didn't take it serious
because he was just a drunk.
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00:23:37,870 --> 00:23:40,886
I needed to do everything
I possibly could do
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00:23:40,910 --> 00:23:44,380
to prove Anthony's innocence.
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00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:47,460
And that was hard to do.
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00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,590
There was also a confidential informant
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00:23:53,090 --> 00:23:57,680
who said that Byron
wanted him to kill Cory.
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00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,850
Cory was Byron's grandson.
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00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:05,860
So there's some evidence that Byron
379
00:24:05,980 --> 00:24:07,520
was talking to a hit man.
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00:24:08,650 --> 00:24:12,676
Byron was extremely depressed.
381
00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:18,160
Did Byron talk that fella into
helping him commit suicide,
382
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,040
knowing that he was willing to kill?
383
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,896
But that confidential informant also died
384
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,750
before I was able to contact him.
385
00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:33,696
Early on, the investigators were trying
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00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,760
to determine if this
was an assisted suicide
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00:24:35,890 --> 00:24:40,286
because there was no
evidence of Byron griffy fighting
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00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:43,140
and no evidence of him
attempting to get away.
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00:24:46,100 --> 00:24:48,296
I don't think there's any way at all my dad
390
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,126
would have ever been suicidal.
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00:24:50,150 --> 00:24:53,650
He was a mortician long
enough to know what...
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00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:58,030
That did to families.
He'd have never done that.
393
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,920
As a prosecutor, our
obligation is that we do
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00:25:10,050 --> 00:25:13,396
not bring a case to trial
that we don't have a belief
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00:25:13,420 --> 00:25:14,736
that we're going to be able to prove
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00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,300
beyond reasonable doubt.
397
00:25:16,430 --> 00:25:18,576
And I believed I had the evidence.
398
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,076
The stakes were pretty high.
399
00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:23,996
I don't like to use the
term "fighting for your life,"
400
00:25:24,020 --> 00:25:25,230
but that's what it felt like.
401
00:25:27,770 --> 00:25:31,416
The defense team had
two alternate suspects,
402
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,676
Tommy tomlin and Cory, Gina's son.
403
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:39,846
There were other suspects,
but none of them ever Rose
404
00:25:39,870 --> 00:25:42,306
to the level that would
show us that they were
405
00:25:42,330 --> 00:25:44,960
a valid alternate suspect.
406
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,560
Throughout the course of the
day that the homicide took place,
407
00:25:47,620 --> 00:25:50,130
Tommy was always with
someone, from the start to finish.
408
00:25:51,170 --> 00:25:53,300
That removed him as
a suspect in our eyes.
409
00:25:54,460 --> 00:25:57,196
We didn't think Cory
had the ability to do it,
410
00:25:57,220 --> 00:25:59,946
and there was no evidence
whatsoever that indicated
411
00:25:59,970 --> 00:26:02,010
that he was there.
412
00:26:02,140 --> 00:26:05,826
The judge allowed us
to kind of talk about them
413
00:26:05,850 --> 00:26:09,786
in closed chambers
without the jury present,
414
00:26:09,810 --> 00:26:13,480
but then wouldn't allow
us to use it in court.
415
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,160
There was a significant amount
of circumstantial evidence
416
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,910
that pointed toward Charles
giebler and Anthony Wright.
417
00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:27,476
They were at the scene
of the crime during the time
418
00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:29,370
the crime occurred.
419
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,010
We have inconsistencies
in the car that they drove.
420
00:26:56,030 --> 00:26:57,690
When they're both confronted with it,
421
00:26:57,820 --> 00:26:59,740
the response is exactly the same.
422
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:06,886
You know, after the fact, they realized,
423
00:27:06,910 --> 00:27:08,596
"we made a mistake in our statements,
424
00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:11,436
"so let's both get back on the same page
425
00:27:11,460 --> 00:27:13,016
and have the same response.
426
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,380
And a lot of the details
just doesn't make sense.
427
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,956
Charles and Anthony had
been to the farm plenty of times,
428
00:27:30,980 --> 00:27:34,110
and for them to say,
"the gate was locked",
429
00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:36,416
"whatever," I don't buy it.
430
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,400
Charles and Anthony drove an hour
431
00:27:38,530 --> 00:27:42,426
to get their good friend to
take him for a birthday lunch.
432
00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:46,596
They didn't drive around to the other gate
433
00:27:46,620 --> 00:27:48,830
or even walk up to the house.
434
00:27:50,830 --> 00:27:54,630
There was almost an entire
hour that was unaccounted for.
435
00:28:08,260 --> 00:28:10,100
Either one could say
436
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:12,980
where they were for
that hour that was lost.
437
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:15,610
So it gave us more indication
438
00:28:15,730 --> 00:28:17,820
that they were hiding something from us.
439
00:28:33,290 --> 00:28:38,606
I know that I was at
the farm twice before,
440
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:40,510
maybe three times.
441
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:42,310
But I'd only been there a couple of times.
442
00:28:42,420 --> 00:28:45,090
I'd never actually been
in the house before.
443
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,310
There's layer after layer
after layer of lie and deceit.
444
00:28:53,140 --> 00:28:55,536
You start with the brothers,
445
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,940
and then you go all the way
down to the death of Charles
446
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,900
and everything in between.
447
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,056
As we dug into Charles
and Anthony's past,
448
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,306
we found that they had
been crime scene cleaners
449
00:29:15,330 --> 00:29:17,806
for the Utah coroner's office.
450
00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:20,066
They had the knowledge
451
00:29:20,090 --> 00:29:23,050
and the know-how
to clean a crime scene
452
00:29:23,170 --> 00:29:26,470
so that there wouldn't be
any evidence left behind.
453
00:29:28,890 --> 00:29:30,326
These were individuals
454
00:29:30,350 --> 00:29:33,576
who were comfortable around death.
455
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,166
I suspect that they were
gloved up with latex gloves,
456
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:41,360
and there was a real attempt
to avoid fingerprints and DNA.
457
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,690
My gut feeling was there had to be
458
00:29:43,820 --> 00:29:45,400
more than one person involved.
459
00:29:46,820 --> 00:29:50,740
When somebody dies,
that is dead weight.
460
00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:54,080
So that dead weight becomes
a very difficult thing to move.
461
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,726
But if somebody moved him,
you could find some drag marks.
462
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:59,356
There was none of those.
463
00:29:59,380 --> 00:30:01,380
So it looked like several people
464
00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:03,300
moved him to that final resting position.
465
00:30:05,050 --> 00:30:08,050
Those all made us to
the conclusion that it was
466
00:30:08,180 --> 00:30:10,600
Charles giebler and Anthony Wright.
467
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,390
But did Tony kill Byron?
468
00:30:13,390 --> 00:30:15,430
I always thought he did.
469
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,246
Charles had it in him
to order Tony to do it.
470
00:30:19,270 --> 00:30:21,590
But I'm not sure if Charles
would have pulled the trigger.
471
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,900
Tony was more cold and calculated.
472
00:30:30,410 --> 00:30:33,216
Not once during the trials
or anything did Anthony
473
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,700
ever say, "I didn't do it."
474
00:30:36,580 --> 00:30:39,250
Like, if you were innocent,
475
00:30:39,370 --> 00:30:42,960
you would plead at some
point and say, "I did not do this."
476
00:30:44,420 --> 00:30:48,776
The trial, I mean, it was an
agonizing couple of weeks.
477
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,156
The jury goes in to deliberate.
478
00:30:51,180 --> 00:30:52,970
And that was the first time it really hit me
479
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:56,350
that that's what I was
facing, was life in prison.
480
00:31:01,730 --> 00:31:06,506
The jury in Anthony's trial,
they were out two days,
481
00:31:06,530 --> 00:31:08,440
very, very stressful.
482
00:31:10,860 --> 00:31:15,830
I'm looking at real
punishment if I'm found guilty.
483
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,516
They're gonna send me to prison for life.
484
00:31:20,540 --> 00:31:23,646
We were all there, the whole family.
485
00:31:23,670 --> 00:31:29,010
I was confident that Anthony
was gonna be convicted.
486
00:31:29,130 --> 00:31:31,470
Anthony's just sweating it.
487
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,350
Nervous, of course.
So the jury comes back.
488
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,980
It was a hung jury, and
I was extremely upset.
489
00:31:48,110 --> 00:31:51,336
They "hung," meaning
the jury couldn't make
490
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,660
an unanimous decision.
491
00:31:55,740 --> 00:31:58,726
Everybody sat there
completely dumbfounded.
492
00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:01,870
When they came back as a hung jury,
493
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,226
I didn't know how the system worked.
494
00:32:03,250 --> 00:32:06,476
I'm thinking, "sweet, it's
over. I'm going home."
495
00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:07,670
Nope.
496
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,170
The district attorney right away stated
497
00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:12,880
that he was gonna try it again.
498
00:32:13,010 --> 00:32:16,076
You just don't know what
to even think at that point.
499
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:18,010
It was very traumatizing.
500
00:32:19,310 --> 00:32:22,520
"Bottom line, man, you're
gonna have to get another couple
501
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,336
"hundred thousand dollars
together to defend yourself
502
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,536
the next time."
503
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,570
I was ready...
504
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,240
For another trial, but the
attorney kept telling me,
505
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,546
"if you have to go back after a mistrial,
506
00:32:35,570 --> 00:32:39,120
it very rarely goes in
the defendant's favor."
507
00:32:40,580 --> 00:32:43,516
Tony was just burned out. He was tired.
508
00:32:43,540 --> 00:32:44,750
He was exhausted.
509
00:32:44,870 --> 00:32:48,066
He was just like, "I can't keep doing this."
510
00:32:48,090 --> 00:32:52,276
And then the head da
there, for whatever reason,
511
00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:57,970
offers Anthony a plea bargain.
512
00:32:59,930 --> 00:33:03,036
We made the decision that we had to get
513
00:33:03,060 --> 00:33:04,706
any conviction we can.
514
00:33:04,730 --> 00:33:10,570
And my primary goal in doing
that was to have Anthony Wright
515
00:33:10,690 --> 00:33:13,700
make a statement that
says, "yes, I'm responsible."
516
00:33:15,410 --> 00:33:17,570
Conspiracy to commit murder.
517
00:33:18,740 --> 00:33:19,910
Didn't require jail time,
518
00:33:20,030 --> 00:33:23,620
but it would be a few years of probation.
519
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:26,436
Anthony didn't want to do it.
520
00:33:26,460 --> 00:33:30,920
The attorneys and myself
basically started begging him
521
00:33:31,050 --> 00:33:33,970
to take the plea offer.
522
00:33:34,090 --> 00:33:36,630
I mean, I used to say,
"no way I'd plead guilty
523
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,140
to something I didn't do."
524
00:33:38,260 --> 00:33:41,236
Well, you're not looking
down the barrel of 25 to life.
525
00:33:41,260 --> 00:33:42,826
It's real.
526
00:33:42,850 --> 00:33:45,270
I wasn't giving up by any means,
527
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,520
but I didn't see a way out.
I just had to take the plea.
528
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,596
My thoughts of Anthony
taking a plea deal was,
529
00:34:02,620 --> 00:34:04,450
what did he pay the da?
530
00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:07,080
That's truly what I think.
531
00:34:08,620 --> 00:34:10,306
You take somebody's
life and you get, what?
532
00:34:10,330 --> 00:34:12,606
Ten years of probation?
533
00:34:12,630 --> 00:34:13,960
I was sick to my stomach.
534
00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:16,970
How could something like that happen?
535
00:34:18,510 --> 00:34:21,300
Take a person's life
and it really has no value.
536
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:29,706
All of justice costs money.
537
00:34:29,730 --> 00:34:32,206
You want to prove yourself
innocent over something?
538
00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:35,466
You could lose everything.
And where would it get you?
539
00:34:35,490 --> 00:34:39,860
So sometimes you
take... The easy way...
540
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:42,006
admit to something, get it over with,
541
00:34:42,030 --> 00:34:43,346
and put it behind you.
542
00:34:43,370 --> 00:34:44,740
Only god knows.
543
00:34:48,660 --> 00:34:50,856
We all wrote letters to the judge.
544
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,880
And he said, "you've
agreed to the plea bargain."
545
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,146
And I said, "we didn't
agree to the plea bargain."
546
00:34:55,170 --> 00:34:57,590
Bullock agreed to that plea bargain.
547
00:34:59,050 --> 00:35:04,510
The district attorney, James
bullock, screwed us over.
548
00:35:05,770 --> 00:35:08,850
I don't think that Anthony is innocent.
549
00:35:08,980 --> 00:35:10,650
I don't think Charles was innocent.
550
00:35:12,690 --> 00:35:15,336
Do I want to really
ask Anthony anything?
551
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,860
I would like an answer.
552
00:35:18,690 --> 00:35:21,046
I would like him to just...
553
00:35:21,070 --> 00:35:23,780
Fess up, be a man, tell
me he did it, and why.
554
00:35:25,450 --> 00:35:27,500
He's too much of a coward, though.
555
00:35:29,290 --> 00:35:31,396
I guess that's why they shot
him in the back of the head,
556
00:35:31,420 --> 00:35:32,710
and that's why he won't tell me.
557
00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:49,246
I... absolutely 100%,
558
00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:52,706
without question, did not kill Byron griffy,
559
00:35:52,730 --> 00:35:54,610
and Charles did not either.
560
00:35:56,070 --> 00:35:58,966
I didn't do it. I don't know who did it.
561
00:35:58,990 --> 00:36:02,740
I have an idea who I think might have.
562
00:36:03,950 --> 00:36:08,136
The suspects that I believe
possibly had a part in.
563
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:13,580
Byron's murder were
Tommy tomlin, Cory higgs,
564
00:36:13,710 --> 00:36:17,250
and Byron's daughter, linette.
565
00:36:17,380 --> 00:36:21,970
The biggest motive linette
had was financial reasons.
566
00:36:22,090 --> 00:36:25,640
Byron told me he was tired
of just having to continually
567
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,656
support her and put money
out for every little whim,
568
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,730
and he was talking about
just not doing that anymore.
569
00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:37,086
We did not hear any
stories at all of Byron griffy
570
00:36:37,110 --> 00:36:38,916
cutting her off in any way.
571
00:36:38,940 --> 00:36:42,756
She was at work all day the
day that Byron was murdered.
572
00:36:42,780 --> 00:36:45,426
Linette had an airtight alibi
573
00:36:45,450 --> 00:36:48,030
unlike Charles giebler
and Anthony Wright.
574
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:59,856
Here are the facts.
575
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,300
Charles and Anthony had
hundreds of thousands,
576
00:37:02,420 --> 00:37:04,680
close to a million dollars
worth of this guy's money.
577
00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:08,140
Yes, other people had reason
578
00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:10,366
to do something terrible to Byron.
579
00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:11,850
Can't argue that.
580
00:37:13,140 --> 00:37:17,610
But the people who
gained the most financially,
581
00:37:19,230 --> 00:37:20,440
it was them.
582
00:37:21,980 --> 00:37:27,386
It was all about lies
and greed and deceit.
583
00:37:27,410 --> 00:37:31,200
And I'm not sure if we'll
ever know really the full truth,
584
00:37:31,330 --> 00:37:32,910
the full extent of it.
585
00:37:34,620 --> 00:37:39,130
There's one person that
knows the truth 100%.
586
00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:42,800
That's Anthony Wright.
587
00:37:45,220 --> 00:37:48,196
I don't suppose that we can ever trust
588
00:37:48,220 --> 00:37:50,720
a damn thing that he says.
589
00:37:50,850 --> 00:37:53,520
How could you really
trust anything that he says
590
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,810
at this point?
591
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:21,566
Having Laura there gave
me something to focus on,
592
00:38:21,590 --> 00:38:24,356
trying to start our life together.
593
00:38:24,380 --> 00:38:27,880
You know, it's a good distraction, still is.
594
00:38:29,050 --> 00:38:32,616
That's sage from the lake pueblo.
595
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,906
That doesn't even
smell like sage anymore.
596
00:38:34,930 --> 00:38:35,930
There it is.
597
00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:41,626
So this summer, it'll be 12 years
598
00:38:41,650 --> 00:38:43,150
that Tony and I have been married.
599
00:38:44,900 --> 00:38:48,046
So, I mean, Anthony and
I, all we ever, ever wanted
600
00:38:48,070 --> 00:38:50,256
was to be together. That was it.
601
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,136
We just wanted to be
together. And we are.
602
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,330
And we always will be.
603
00:38:55,950 --> 00:38:57,580
I said this at the very beginning,
604
00:38:57,710 --> 00:38:59,960
'cause, you know, right
away the attorneys are like,
605
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,920
"well, we got paid and
you didn't go to prison,
606
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,396
so all's good."
607
00:39:04,420 --> 00:39:08,236
Yes, he gets to walk
around and have a job and,
608
00:39:08,260 --> 00:39:11,406
you know, kiss me goodnight
every night or whatever.
609
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:13,800
I said, "but do not think for a minute
610
00:39:13,930 --> 00:39:16,270
that this was some kind of damn gift."
611
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:19,076
This is not a "best-case scenario."
612
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:20,310
Give me a break.
613
00:39:24,730 --> 00:39:27,296
I don't know that there'll ever be closure
614
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,690
because we didn't get justice.
615
00:39:30,450 --> 00:39:34,910
Anthony gets to walk around
and do whatever he wants to do.
616
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:39,846
I would have really liked
for my dad to get justice.
617
00:39:39,870 --> 00:39:41,500
There was no justice.
618
00:39:43,420 --> 00:39:45,776
It doesn't matter that it's 12 years later.
619
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,880
It hurts just as bad today.
620
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,196
I'd do anything I could
to prove my innocence.
621
00:39:54,220 --> 00:39:56,826
But, you know,
everybody's gonna think...
622
00:39:56,850 --> 00:39:57,850
Something different.
623
00:39:57,970 --> 00:40:00,980
I struggle a lot still with,
"is Anthony innocent
624
00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:02,286
or is he guilty?"
625
00:40:02,310 --> 00:40:03,956
We're a decade later
626
00:40:03,980 --> 00:40:06,456
and we just have
questions and some things
627
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,126
that probably will never
be able to be answered
628
00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:10,530
because it's too late.
629
00:40:11,650 --> 00:40:13,636
Who killed Byron?
630
00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:17,176
I'm convinced Anthony
didn't, but there's...
631
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,016
No evidence, and probably never will be
632
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,670
unless somebody makes
a deathbed statement
633
00:40:25,170 --> 00:40:27,170
declaring that they did it.
634
00:40:27,290 --> 00:40:30,146
There's so many rabbit holes
in this case to chase down
635
00:40:30,170 --> 00:40:32,856
that I suspect if we
were to reopen the case,
636
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,366
there's additional evidence
637
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:35,776
that we would find
that would just be more
638
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,236
than we could deal with.
639
00:40:37,260 --> 00:40:40,020
I'd like to say that the moral
of this story is don't trust
640
00:40:40,140 --> 00:40:41,786
somebody who says
that they're your friend,
641
00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:43,640
but then what kind of life do you have?
642
00:40:44,730 --> 00:40:47,246
Like, I'm still gonna trust
and I'm still gonna be giving
643
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:49,206
and loving and caring
644
00:40:49,230 --> 00:40:51,030
because that's what my
dad would have wanted.
645
00:40:52,820 --> 00:40:54,676
A lot of this could have been avoided
646
00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:57,740
if people could just be
themselves and tell the truth.
647
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,250
Truth is the thing that everyone seeks.
648
00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:05,896
It's hard to come by.
649
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,606
Just be honest.
650
00:41:07,630 --> 00:41:09,340
Say what happened
or what didn't happen.
651
00:41:11,630 --> 00:41:13,396
Because someday they're
going to have to answer
652
00:41:13,420 --> 00:41:15,776
to their maker for whatever they did.
653
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,720
Both you and I, we're
going to have to answer
654
00:41:17,850 --> 00:41:20,600
for our misdeeds and our mistakes.
655
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,140
One day, they will too.
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