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I visualized two little beaten up
airplanes on an abandoned runway in
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Brindisi, Italy.
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We had to travel a thousand miles to
Israel.
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We were reading every day about the
convoys in Israel being trapped in the
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hills.
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In one case, it was a convoy of 40
doctors that were killed.
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It was desperation time in Palestine.
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There was food to be dropped, ammunition
to be dropped, and they only had a few
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Piper Cubs. So these airplanes were
critical to get over there.
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We took out the seats in the back and
put in a big rubber tank full of fuel
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a pipe going to the wing tank.
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We were flying mile -top cocktail.
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We didn't have life raft, no operational
radio.
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We were in a hurry.
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I saw some beautiful wildflowers right
by the runaway.
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I saw Lou jump out of his airplane and
pick flowers.
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I wanted to kill him, but I was able to
control myself.
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Just off the edge of the airstrip was a
cliff.
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And the airplane just sunk like this.
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Eleven and a half.
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Hours of watching that single propeller
go round and round and round.
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Never saw land, never saw a ship, never
saw an airplane, nothing but just water.
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It was the dumbest thing we ever did.
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Flying 11 hours over water with a single
-engine aircraft.
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The only person I know that ever did
that was Lindbergh.
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Finally, we made a landfall at Matanya,
turned south.
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We circled the Tel Aviv airport.
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It was nothing but a dirt strip.
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It had no lighting except what they call
goosenecks.
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And after about 45 minutes, we were able
to come in the land.
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These two little airplanes were the
biggest thing that they had in Israel.
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The very next morning, they were already
dropping supplies to the kibbutzim.
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I handed the flowers to the first woman
I saw.
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Well, it flew.
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I learned afterwards that we were the
first ones to arrive.
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This is the beginning of the Israeli Air
Force.
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It's a day they've been waiting for.
It's a day of days for these sailors and
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for the best reason in the world.
They're the first group to be released
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Navy. Thanks, mates, for a job well
done.
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After I returned from three years of
war, I was in Minot, North Dakota,
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in a used car and truck business, money,
girlfriends, cars, the whole
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enchilada.
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I really wasn't very concerned about
Palestine.
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I never went to Hebrew school.
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My mother had to drag me kicking and
screaming to get me bar mitzvahed.
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very virulent anti -Semitism.
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People like Father Copeland.
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We believe in Christ's principle of love
your neighbor as yourself. And with
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that principle, I challenge every Jew in
this nation to tell me that he does not
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believe in it.
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It was tough. When I was walking home
from school, we used to get it up, down,
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and sideways.
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Christ Killer, Sheeny, and Dirty Jew,
and the whole bit.
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We tried to ignore it, but you just
couldn't. It was part of your psyche.
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They'd surround me, and the guy would
hit me from the back, and I'd turn
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and then he'd hit me.
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I realized by the time I was about 13
years old that in order for me to
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I got to get very strong.
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So I wrote a way to a guy called Charles
Atlas, a dollar bill.
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By the time I was 15 years old, nobody
was beating me up.
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I graduated high school April.
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End of April, I went to the recruiting
office.
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And there were guys lined up.
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And there was a guy sitting at a desk.
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I filled out the form.
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Of course, it said their religion,
Jewish.
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He looked up at me and he said, Marine
Corps is a tough outfit. Do you think
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could make it?
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I looked down at him and I says, if you
made it, I can make it.
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I grew up in Newark, New Jersey.
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I used to come back from a battle with
black eyes, and I'd walk into the house,
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and my father said, what did you do to
the other guy?
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My old man was a tiger.
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We didn't have cars.
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I had friends who had bicycles, and we'd
go across highways and everything in
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our bikes.
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I lived near Newark Airport.
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We would watch airplanes land.
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watched the pilots and admired them. So
I was always interested in aviation.
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When we were kids, I used to go to Coney
Island with my friends.
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I would go on the Cyclone or the
Thunderbolt when I could afford it. It
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probably 10 or 15 cents a ride.
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That rush of being frightened and loving
it at the same time.
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That was my introduction to taking risks
and wanting to be a pilot.
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We kept the culture home out of respect
for my grandparents, but I didn't like
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being a Jew.
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I don't think you can get a job in the
fire department or the police department
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in New York if you're Jewish.
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I didn't deny my Judaism, but I wasn't
happy about being Jewish.
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What changed me simply was knowing what
Hitler did to the Jews.
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To be murdered, six million.
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I didn't understand Zionism, but I knew
what had happened in Europe in the
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concentration camps.
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And the refugees who were trying to find
some place to live.
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and also the British intercepting them
on the high seas and putting them behind
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barbed wire in Germany.
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I thought there should be something done
about this.
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Europe's displaced persons are on the
last lap of a journey toward freedom.
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Their eyes turn toward the horizon,
seeking the shoreline of the promised
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Off in the distance, the British
destroyer fires away.
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Too near and yet so far.
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Palestine is still a promise.
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At the end of the war, there was massive
pressure on the British who control
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Palestine to allow Jews to immigrate in
large numbers to Palestine.
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Which is something the British
government refused to do.
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Because they know they're going to have
a future in the region, they have to
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have the goodwill of the entire Arab
world.
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And they will not have that if they
allow massive immigration of Jews to
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Palestine.
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The British realized that they could not
achieve a compromise between the
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warring clans in Palestine, the Jews and
Arabs.
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And they understood they couldn't remain
here indefinitely.
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So the British in February 1947 said,
we'll hand Palestine and the whole
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back to the world community.
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And the United Nations came up with a
partition proposal, and the idea being
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partition the country into two halves,
two states, one for the Jews of
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and one for the Arabs of Palestine.
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The Jews accepted the partition
resolution of 29 November 1947.
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The Arabs rejected. They want all of
Palestine for themselves.
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United Kingdom of Spain, United States,
yes.
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Uruguay, yes.
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While the vote is being tallied, people
are counting in their head.
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And when they realize the two -thirds
majority has been reached, there is such
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cry of joy.
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Their dreams of data have finally been
granted.
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The resolution was adopted by 33 votes,
13 against, 10
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abstentions.
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The people here were overwhelmed.
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Everybody was dancing and singing in the
street.
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There was just one said man.
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His name was David Ben -Gurion.
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I stand on his side when he looked at
the dancing people.
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And he says, well, today they dance.
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Tomorrow their blood will be spilled.
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And so it happened.
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There was violence.
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From the time of the partition through
the spring of 1948, a kind of civil war
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between Jews and Palestinian Arabs.
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This is when Jerusalem was besieged.
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It's when the state of Israel looks like
it might never emerge.
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Large numbers of Palestinians turned
into refugees or were displaced from
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homes as a result of the fighting.
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In a few cases, there were expulsions.
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And in others, their leaders told them
to leave.
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But basically they fled in face of the
flail of war.
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After the partition vote, The British
announced that they were going to leave
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Palestine on May 15, 1948, and that
started a ticking clock.
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Everybody knew that come May 15, there
would be a vacuum.
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And so for the Jews, they knew they had
to be organized and ready to fight a war
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with the neighboring Arab armies, who
were preparing to invade as soon as the
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British left.
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The Egyptians have an air force with
several dozen Spitfires and a few other
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military aircraft.
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The Jews in Palestine had a very small
air arm called the Haganah Air Service.
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The air service was insignificant and
didn't have military aircraft.
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A girl called me and she says, look, we
have a little bit of rifles, a little
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bit of machine guns.
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We don't have planes. We don't have
tanks.
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And unless we shall get some arms, we
are lost.
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And he says, I'm going to the United
States to mobilize the money.
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The Hungarian view was that the U .S.
really would be the place to go for
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everything.
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American money,
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World War II surplus equipment either
rotting in fields or...
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being sold at scrap prices, Jewish
veterans who had current military
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skills.
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I got a letter from a friend of mine at
TWA, and the letter just simply said, if
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you're interested in flying munitions to
Palestine, call this number in New York
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and ask for Swifty.
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Just like that.
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So what the hell? I called the number.
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Livingston, where the hell are you?
We've been waiting a week for you.
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I said, waiting for me?
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Yeah, we need you right away.
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The minute I got this, I knew my whole
life would be different. I just knew it.
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I'm in Hollywood.
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There was a Palestinian general who was
going to speak at the temple that night.
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I went up to him and I said, look.
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I know there's going to be a war there,
and I'm a fighter pilot, and I want to
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go there.
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He said, well, I don't know anything
about it.
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Because, you know, it wasn't like a
newspaper ad joined the Haganah. It was
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illegal, of course.
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Although Truman had been a strong
supporter of a Jewish state, the State
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Department had become very ambivalent
about partition.
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They thought that a Jewish state could
not successfully be established, that
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Jews would be overrun by the Arabs.
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And so the U .S. took a number of steps
to make it clear that anybody who tried
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to go to Palestine to fight would lose
their citizenship.
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And that there would be no exportation
of American war material to Palestine.
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The Americans took the lead in
establishing an embargo of arms to the
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Middle East.
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Our problem was how to break the
embargo.
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They used every possible way.
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Ingenuity, connections, smuggling,
everything.
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Because it was a matter of life and
death.
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This is when a pivotal figure named Al
Schwimmer stepped in.
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Al Schwimmer was in many ways the
founder of the Israel Air Force.
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He began his career as a flight
engineer.
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It was Al Schwimmer, the American, who,
when he got involved in this enterprise,
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suggested you're not going to win a war
against the Arab states if you don't
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have an air force.
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Ben -Gurion, he thought very similarly.
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I get a phone call on a Sunday morning
from Al Schwimmer.
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He gave me an envelope with $5 ,000,
sent me down to the War Surplus
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Administration.
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At that time, the desert was filled with
airplanes.
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And if you're a veteran, you can buy
one.
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So the airplane cost to build about $175
,000.
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For $5 ,000, I became owner of a C -46.
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Schwimmer purchased a dozen or so of
these C -46s, two or three of the
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Constellations, and got an operation
established in California.
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Essentially, from scratch, he created an
airline and ultimately the nucleus of
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Israel's transport squadron.
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The important point at the time was to
recruit crews.
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We had these airplanes, but no one to
fly them.
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My first job was not flying.
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It was scouring the stolen records of
New York Air National Guard rosters,
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looking for Jewish sounding names with
pilot status.
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I got the phone call from New York,
pricing me that Israel was going to
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itself a state, that they had purchased
some airplanes, but they had no one to
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fly them.
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My father was a stunt pilot, daredevil
flyer. He was very swaggery and macho.
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He was like Indiana Jones, kind of, you
know? I mean, he had that kind
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of personality.
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After the war, the airlines were not
hiring Jewish pilots, so an opportunity
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fly for a good cause was just grand.
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I believe that the reason he went was
purely because he was so passionate
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it. He felt like it was destiny.
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He said yes almost immediately and
called four friends who all said yes.
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I was working as a flying instructor.
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in Philadelphia on the Delaware River.
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I was going to make inquiries to see
whether I could go to Israel.
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I was invited to New York, met with Al
Schwimmer.
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It was supposed to be hush -hush.
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I got a form, were you in World War II,
in what capacity? So I filled it out. I
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was a fighter pilot.
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Boom! A couple of days later, I started
getting phone calls and telegrams.
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Meet a guy with a flower in his lapel on
West 57th Street.
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These clandestine operations to recruit
pilots and procure arms were centered in
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a hotel in which the Copa Cabana was
located.
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And Frank Sinatra used to perform there.
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In fact, he once volunteered to pass
money to buy illegal weapons.
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They asked me how much I wanted to get
paid. I said, I don't need any pay. I
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thought I'd be home in a month or two.
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I really thought we would lose.
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You know, you're talking about 600 ,000
Jews.
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50 million Arabs surrounding them. I
didn't see how they could possibly
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I said, Mom, I'm going to Palestine.
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She said, You're not going.
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Under no circumstances are you going.
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And I said, I'm going.
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My father said nothing.
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I know he would have gone.
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I was risking my citizenship and also
jail time.
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I didn't give a shit.
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I was going to help the Jews out.
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I was going to help my people out.
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Jewishness to me didn't mean anything. I
was an American.
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But the idea that Jews were going to
fight, I found exciting.
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It's about time.
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My father, I had an argument with him
about it.
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I was always arguing with him.
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He was always telling me I wasn't a good
Jew.
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And I said, I'm going to go and risk my
life to be a good Jew. You don't have to
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kill yourself to be a good Jew.
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I told my mother I was going to work for
a cargo airline.
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In World War II, she received...
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telegram from the War Department that I
had domestic inaction.
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I didn't want to put her through that
again.
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My mother threw herself on the floor,
started crying hysterically, and I
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didn't make it out the door.
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I had just made up my mind that nothing
was going to stop me.
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I couldn't live with myself if I didn't
do this.
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Part of my family wound up at Auschwitz,
my grandmother and my cousins.
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I felt that the remnants had a right to
life and some chance of happiness.
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The alternative is too hard for me to
envision.
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The possibility of what the Arabs could
have done. And they talked about the
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fact that what Hitler did will be
nothing compared to what we're going to
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Schirmer had to figure out a way to get
the planes out of the U .S.
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You couldn't take them to Palestine
because the British were still there and
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high alert for arms smugglers.
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But you couldn't leave them in the U .S.
because of the arms embargo.
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So they would have to hopscotch around
the globe to get as close to Palestine
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possible.
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This idea was hatched to turn these
Jewish planes into the nucleus of a fake
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airline.
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There was a former Air Force major who
was friends with the nephew of the
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Panamanian president.
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So we were linear city at DePenema,
which was a pony.
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You have these planes lining up on the
taxiway to take off, and they're very
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well aware that the embargo is taking
effect.
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And you have these Treasury agents, or T
-men, as they were called in the day,
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show up, and there's a confrontation
with some of the pilots who are getting
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ready to take off.
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Swiftie said, these are foreign
-registered aircraft.
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No, they're not.
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They're U .S.
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Swifty says, wait a minute. Goes in the
hangar, comes out with a mechanic with a
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can of blue paint.
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The mechanic gets up on one of the sides
of the C -46s and he prints LAPSA, L -A
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-P -S -A, Linear City of Panama.
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Sloppy letters all bleeding down.
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Swifty says to the guy, okay, now
they're foreign registered.
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The guy says, well, I still want to let
you go. And he said to the T -man, you
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want to stop us? Shoot us down.
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In Panama, we had the run of the town.
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We settled on a favorite place, which I
remember was called Tierra Feliz, Happy
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Land.
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We bought a Buick sedan.
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My friend Norman Munson and I bought
white suits.
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We would ride around and pick up girls.
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We were young.
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Good looking, had hair.
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We had a lot of testosterone.
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And we didn't want to waste it.
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What can I say?
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We got out of Panama.
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We had to go through the South Atlantic.
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So we landed at Natal, Brazil.
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Then we took off.
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Got to Casablanca.
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Payoffs all over the place.
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And then we headed out.
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Landed at Rome.
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Rome was headquarters of the Haganah,
and they were gathering pilots there.
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We were all young guys,
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white jackets.
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And Rome was a wild place at that time.
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Beautiful women with beautiful boobs.
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And I'm having a hell of a time there.
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And I meet Buzz Burling.
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They introduced me to him.
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Buzz Burling was Canada's leading World
War II ace, the Falcon of Malta. He was
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the kind of person who single -handedly
had the potential to alter the course of
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the war.
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The Arabs wanted him. He wasn't Jewish,
but he made it known that he wanted to
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fight for the Jews.
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For him, going to Palestine was going to
get him back to his glory days.
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And in Rome, while other pilots like
Giddy Lichtman were out running around
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picking up women, he was in his hotel
room practicing with his model plane.
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One day, Buzz Burling says, I'm going to
fly a Norseman tomorrow.
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He says, you want to go up? I say, sure.
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Just prior to that, I had met this
lovely young Italian girl.
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I spent the night with her, and she
wanted me to, and I wanted to stay
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I called up Buzz Burling.
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I said, Buzz, I can't make it today.
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I have a young lady here.
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So he says, I understand.
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So he got another guy. I think his name
was Cone.
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Unfortunately, that particular plane had
caught on fire and crashed.
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He and his co -pilot were killed
instantly.
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There was some thought that his plane
had been sabotaged to prevent him from
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ever making it to Palestine.
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Perhaps some of the women that the
soldiers were carousing with were spies.
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No one will ever really know.
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There was only one country in the world
willing to break the embargo and sell
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arms and aircraft to Israel.
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Czechoslovakia needed Yankee dollars.
The Zionist movement had millions of
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American dollars because of American
Jewish contributions to the cause.
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The Czechoslovakians made available an
airfield. The Israelis could base all of
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these transport planes that they had
smuggled out of the U .S. and down to
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Panama.
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The Israelis were able to set this up as
essentially a remote Israeli base.
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When I met these people in New York,
they asked me what I flew, and I told
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in combat I flew the Thunderbolts P -47
and the Mustang, the P -30. Oh, he says,
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we've got them, we've got them.
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I said, great.
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I thought.
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Anyhow, that was not correct.
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They were training us in an Me 109.
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The Messerschmitt was a famous German
fighter in World War II.
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The Germans during the war had built a
Messerschmitt factory in Czechoslovakia.
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The Czechs took it over after the war
and continued to churn out planes.
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The factory that made the engines
apparently had burned down, so they had
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take an engine out of a bomber.
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Mickey Mouse had to fit into this little
4 ,000 -pound fighter.
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This thing was put together from junk.
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Different propellers, different engines,
and so on.
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Messer shit, I called it.
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I was amazed that it could get off the
ground, and most of the time it
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couldn't.
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We lost a lot of planes on takeoffs and
landings, a lot.
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They gave us flight clothing, blue suede
with an
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Etsy wings, Luftwaffe wings on it, which
I immediately took off.
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I remember sitting in the cockpit of my
Me 109, wearing a German
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uniform, German helmet, a German
parachute.
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What's a nice Jewish boy from St. Paul
doing in a place like this?
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The irony of it did not escape any of
us.
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destiny approaches in Palestine.
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Last pictures from Jerusalem before the
end of the British mandate show a city
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tensely quiet, barricaded and armed to
the teeth.
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Eastward, the Arab legion poised for
invasion on the Transjordan border.
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The rarely photographed King Abdullah
reviewed a brigade of reinforcements
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Iraq. How far would the Arabs go to
prevent the partitioning of the Holy
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On the 12th of May, 1948, Ben -Gurion
summons his chief commanders to a
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and asks them, what's going to happen if
we declare a state? On the 12th of May,
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he asks them. And Igael Yadin, the head
of Haganah operations, tells them the
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chances are 50 -50. That is, we don't
know whether we're going to win against
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the Arab states if they invade.
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The Arab media did talk about killing
the Jews, destroying the Jews, throwing
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Jews into the sea.
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And the Jews absorbed this.
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And that motivated them in the sense of
fearing that if they lost the war, there
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would be a second Holocaust.
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And that the world would not intervene
on their behalf.
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Ben -Gurion declared the State of Israel
on the Friday afternoon, the 14th of
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May, 1948.
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I was a volunteer.
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And our mission was to fly over Jordan
and to give the army high command
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an estimate of the strength of the
Jordanian army that was invading Israel.
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It really was a very grim situation.
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The armored cars and the troops and the
trucks were nose to tail for miles
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coming in from Jordan.
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This evening, the invasion. Arab armies
are pouring in. Their tanks have already
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crossed the borders and the 20th
settlement has helped the first
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the fighting forces of the organized
Arab armies.
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Saturday morning Tel Aviv was bombed.
The Jews are holding their ground in the
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country in spite of the fact that they
have been outnumbered by the Arabs and
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the Arabs have come much better equipped
with heavy arms than the Jews have in
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their possession.
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Jews who are fighting in Palestine, the
state of Israel, are fighting for the
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only thing that they have in their
possession.
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It means life or death to them.
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The Egyptians bomb sites inside Israel.
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They attack the central bus station in
Tel Aviv, killing several dozen people.
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Jews actually have nothing with which to
respond to these Arab air attacks. They
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have no proper air force, and
psychologically, they feel very
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In Czechoslovakia, three of us were in
the commandant's office.
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The Czech commander was there, and I
told him, I said, look, we have to go
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right now. But he said, you haven't
finished your flying course yet. Can't
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We're going.
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They say, you're on your way to go to
Israel. I say, how the hell am I going
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get to Israel?
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In an airplane.
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We set up what was known as the Air
Transport Command, ATC.
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These aircraft, which Swimmer had
smuggled out of America, started flying
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equipment to Israel.
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They would bring Messerschmitts.
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We would dismantle these airplanes.
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One fuselage would fit into the C -46,
plus a wing.
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The rest was filled with boxes which
contained machine guns and ammunition.
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Over this fuselage, they take the wings.
444
00:37:02,380 --> 00:37:07,400
And over the wings, they stick me, Kitty
Lichtman.
445
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:23,060
As I flew into Israel, I had the
greatest feeling I've ever had in my
446
00:37:23,060 --> 00:37:24,060
never forget it.
447
00:37:24,860 --> 00:37:28,400
And that was to land in my country.
448
00:37:30,340 --> 00:37:33,020
You're going to think this is corny, but
I had been there before.
449
00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:36,400
I had this deja vu.
450
00:37:38,740 --> 00:37:43,120
Maybe I was with Joshua at Jericho or
someplace because everything started to
451
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,120
look familiar.
452
00:37:48,110 --> 00:37:50,750
I remember the smell of the citrus
grove.
453
00:37:52,170 --> 00:37:55,930
Then coming into the hangar and seeing
all these people in uniform.
454
00:37:59,050 --> 00:38:00,050
These are Jews?
455
00:38:04,670 --> 00:38:08,010
My cynicism vanished very rapidly, I'll
tell you that.
456
00:38:11,250 --> 00:38:15,750
The first four Messerschmitts arrived a
week or so after the war started. They
457
00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:16,750
had to be assembled.
458
00:38:21,230 --> 00:38:23,170
And at that point, they were truly a
secret weapon.
459
00:38:25,330 --> 00:38:29,610
They were being assembled in one hangar,
and the Egyptians came over and bombed
460
00:38:29,610 --> 00:38:30,610
the other hangar.
461
00:38:31,590 --> 00:38:32,970
Got a little bit lucky there.
462
00:38:38,570 --> 00:38:41,870
They'd been put together, but it wasn't
clear how successfully they had been put
463
00:38:41,870 --> 00:38:43,530
together, and they couldn't be tried
out.
464
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:48,910
Their first flight was going to be a
combat mission.
465
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,320
At first, there was the thought of using
them against the Jordanians, but then a
466
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,440
frantic call came in for assistance in
the south.
467
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:08,520
About 5 o 'clock, Shimon Avidan rushed
up in the jeep. He said, look, six miles
468
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,780
from where we're standing now at the
airbase is the whole Egyptian army of
469
00:39:12,780 --> 00:39:15,840
10 ,000 men, and we have nothing to stop
them.
470
00:39:17,460 --> 00:39:19,680
He said, if you don't go now...
471
00:39:20,730 --> 00:39:23,390
They'll be in Tel Aviv in the morning
and there's no Israel.
472
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:36,810
The pilots were actually two
Palestinians.
473
00:39:37,050 --> 00:39:38,050
These are white men.
474
00:39:39,070 --> 00:39:40,070
Modi alone.
475
00:39:41,770 --> 00:39:43,610
A South African named Eddie Cohen.
476
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:45,970
And Lou Lenart.
477
00:39:46,490 --> 00:39:47,770
And Lenart led the mission.
478
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:55,590
This was the Air Force of Israel.
479
00:39:56,590 --> 00:40:00,610
These four people and four junk
airplanes.
480
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:30,460
Climbing at 6 ,000 feet in a climbing
turn, Wadi Alam realized that I wasn't
481
00:40:30,460 --> 00:40:32,480
sure where it is, and he went like this.
482
00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:39,520
I looked down, and as far as I could
see, the Egyptian army was there on the
483
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,520
road.
484
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,760
Tanks, trucks, artillery, everything.
485
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:45,920
I looked there.
486
00:40:46,220 --> 00:40:48,860
I saw the enemy that came to destroy us.
487
00:40:51,050 --> 00:40:54,150
I looked back and saw the people of
Israel were behind me.
488
00:40:56,850 --> 00:41:00,470
I just did a quick schmice foil, even
though I'm not religious, turned the
489
00:41:00,470 --> 00:41:05,470
airplane upside down because the dive
bomb, the steeper the dive, the more
490
00:41:05,470 --> 00:41:06,630
accurate is the hit.
491
00:41:11,810 --> 00:41:17,090
I dropped my bomb, and then I stayed
down, strafing what they call a clover
492
00:41:17,090 --> 00:41:18,090
leaf, like this.
493
00:41:21,130 --> 00:41:25,130
They had machine guns firing through the
propellers like in World War I.
494
00:41:26,650 --> 00:41:31,330
Timing mechanisms didn't always function
properly and that some of the pilots
495
00:41:31,330 --> 00:41:32,750
were shooting off the propellers.
496
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:41,730
This is what we expect to happen with
Eddie Cohen.
497
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,720
We were like a band of brothers. It's
like a piece of your heart breaks off.
498
00:42:01,540 --> 00:42:06,940
That evening, our intelligence
intercepted a radio message from the
499
00:42:06,940 --> 00:42:07,940
the Egyptian army.
500
00:42:08,620 --> 00:42:09,620
And I quote,
501
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,920
we are heavily attacked by enemy
aircraft and we are scattering.
502
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,240
The commander of that column decided to
dig in and not to advance further,
503
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,820
thinking that this was the vanguard of a
much larger Jewish Air Force and that
504
00:42:24,820 --> 00:42:28,400
there was going to be much stiffer
opposition if he continued to just sort
505
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,940
rumble through the desert in broad
daylight.
506
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:38,500
It was probably the single most
important flight in the whole Israeli
507
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,060
They stopped the Egyptians cold.
508
00:42:46,350 --> 00:42:50,470
There was a second airstrike which
followed immediately after on the 30th
509
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:54,610
by an American pilot against the Iraqis.
510
00:42:56,330 --> 00:43:00,730
The Iraqi army in the 48th war was the
largest of the Arab armies involved.
511
00:43:02,410 --> 00:43:08,610
They struck westward into Israeli
territory and controlled and occupied
512
00:43:08,610 --> 00:43:09,670
northern west bank.
513
00:43:10,570 --> 00:43:13,550
And this is where the Israeli
Messerschmitts attacked them.
514
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:23,600
Two pilots were on patrol, Asa Weizmann
and Milton Rubenfeld.
515
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,960
This is from my father's debrief.
516
00:43:30,540 --> 00:43:36,960
Open fire with MG and cannons on
Tolcombe Police Station and drop the
517
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,280
bomb on Police Street.
518
00:43:38,660 --> 00:43:44,260
Made a 90 -degree turn to north,
attacked four tanks, registered hit,
519
00:43:44,810 --> 00:43:46,730
And all four were zero distance.
520
00:43:50,370 --> 00:43:55,590
This helped persuade the Iraqis to
hunker down and not attack Israeli
521
00:43:55,590 --> 00:43:56,590
thereafter.
522
00:43:57,750 --> 00:44:02,770
No flak until hit right over tanks by
two cannon shells, one in left wing and
523
00:44:02,770 --> 00:44:03,770
one in belly.
524
00:44:03,970 --> 00:44:08,110
Left wing crumbled up, climbed above
clouds, all instruments gone.
525
00:44:08,490 --> 00:44:12,690
He realized that he wouldn't be able to
get back to his base.
526
00:44:14,770 --> 00:44:17,170
He bailed out on the beach.
527
00:44:18,830 --> 00:44:22,650
He saw a number of kibbutzniks come in
with rifles.
528
00:44:23,890 --> 00:44:28,150
Now, bear in mind that nobody in Israel
knew that we had acquired combat
529
00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:29,150
aircraft.
530
00:44:29,310 --> 00:44:32,870
All they knew was that they were being
attacked with Egyptian aircraft.
531
00:44:35,130 --> 00:44:38,430
They thought he was an Arab, and so they
were shooting at him.
532
00:44:39,350 --> 00:44:40,770
He didn't speak Hebrew.
533
00:44:41,770 --> 00:44:43,290
He had his arms up.
534
00:44:44,170 --> 00:44:49,190
He started yelling Yiddish words and the
names of Jewish food.
535
00:44:49,930 --> 00:44:51,370
Shabbos gefilte fish.
536
00:44:51,810 --> 00:44:53,630
Gefilte fish, gefilte fish.
537
00:44:53,850 --> 00:44:54,850
Matzah.
538
00:44:55,410 --> 00:44:57,950
Pesach. Gefilte fish. Gefilte fish.
539
00:44:58,170 --> 00:45:01,550
So they stopped with the pitchforks.
540
00:45:06,310 --> 00:45:10,450
Fighter Squadron was at that time made
up entirely of foreign volunteers.
541
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,320
with two notable exceptions,
542
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,920
Modi Alon and Azar Weizman.
543
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,640
Modi Alon was a very cool customer.
544
00:45:27,980 --> 00:45:31,620
Modi Alon was a good pilot, totally
fearless.
545
00:46:07,490 --> 00:46:13,730
One day, Modi calls us all in and said,
we want to have an
546
00:46:13,730 --> 00:46:18,020
insignia. and we want to have a number
for our squadron.
547
00:46:18,460 --> 00:46:20,780
I said, what's the number? He said, 101.
548
00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:24,100
We want them to think we have 100
squadrons.
549
00:46:28,180 --> 00:46:31,360
They were sitting in a bar in Tel Aviv,
and someone said, you know, we need a
550
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,200
logo for the fighter squadron.
551
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,560
I said, let's call ourselves the Macha
Movet, Angels of Death.
552
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,100
There were two veterans from California
who volunteered together.
553
00:46:45,070 --> 00:46:47,470
Their names were Bob Vickman and Stan
Andrews.
554
00:46:48,570 --> 00:46:54,270
They met on the campus of UCLA, and they
were both incredibly talented artists.
555
00:46:56,330 --> 00:47:01,050
Stan and Bob literally got out a
cocktail napkin, and they drew this logo
556
00:47:01,050 --> 00:47:02,910
angel of death with flight goggles.
557
00:47:05,290 --> 00:47:08,010
And that emblem's on Israeli F -16s
today.
558
00:47:10,370 --> 00:47:12,950
Eight o 'clock in the morning, I'm not
sure the time.
559
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,680
I feel somebody tap me on the shoulder.
560
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,700
Get ready. You're going to fly.
561
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,040
I'm going to fly what? You're going to
fly the ME.
562
00:47:22,420 --> 00:47:23,960
I said, OK, fine.
563
00:47:25,700 --> 00:47:30,040
I get into the cockpit and I'm looking
around. Where the fuck is this? Where is
564
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,460
this? I don't know where this is.
565
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:38,100
Before I flew a fighter aircraft in the
American Air Force, I got at least 100
566
00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:40,180
hours of intensive instruction.
567
00:47:41,340 --> 00:47:45,240
Here, I got 35 minutes, and I'm taxiing
out the airplane.
568
00:47:49,460 --> 00:47:53,320
Marty says, let's take off. So I give it
the throttle. I take off.
569
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:02,480
And I'm trying to follow him through
this mist,
570
00:48:02,620 --> 00:48:04,760
and I can barely see him.
571
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,040
We see below us four.
572
00:48:10,590 --> 00:48:12,030
Egyptian spitfires.
573
00:48:14,090 --> 00:48:17,070
I'm looking for the gun sight switch.
I'm looking for everything.
574
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:19,150
I can find nothing.
575
00:48:20,190 --> 00:48:26,790
Marty rolls over, and I roll over with
my thumb up my tuchus because I can't
576
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:27,790
shoot the guns.
577
00:48:28,330 --> 00:48:34,010
He makes a pass, shoots at him, and they
break off, and they go into the mist.
578
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,880
We got 35 minutes fuel in these
verstunken airplanes.
579
00:48:43,500 --> 00:48:46,500
Finally, I find the gun switch. I find
all the switches.
580
00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:54,020
I see one of them break out. He sees me
now, so he makes a half -assed turn. I
581
00:48:54,020 --> 00:48:58,900
drove up as toughest and pull the
trigger, and I see pieces fall out into
582
00:48:58,900 --> 00:48:59,900
mist.
583
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,880
And I come back to the base.
584
00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:04,980
They say there's an airplane that
crashed.
585
00:49:08,170 --> 00:49:09,510
That was the first kill.
586
00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:22,650
A promise of peace for at least four
weeks comes to the Holy Land.
587
00:49:23,410 --> 00:49:28,030
But almost until the very hour set for
the truce to begin, grim real war still
588
00:49:28,030 --> 00:49:28,888
in progress.
589
00:49:28,890 --> 00:49:33,510
Jews held in fortified parts of New
Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, while Arabs
590
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:34,810
through other parts of Palestine.
591
00:49:42,990 --> 00:49:46,330
That first phase ended successfully in
the sense that the Egyptians had been
592
00:49:46,330 --> 00:49:49,190
stopped in the south and there still was
a Jewish state.
593
00:49:53,690 --> 00:49:56,710
And Israel geared up knowing that there
would be a round two.
594
00:50:00,330 --> 00:50:05,330
Israel was far better organized than the
Arab states and knew how to use and did
595
00:50:05,330 --> 00:50:09,290
use the truces which the United Nations
had forced on the sides.
596
00:50:10,410 --> 00:50:15,710
To rearm, resupply, reorganize its
troops far better than the Arab states.
597
00:50:20,750 --> 00:50:22,830
Volunteers continued to make their way
to the country.
598
00:50:25,790 --> 00:50:28,930
These volunteers from outside the land
are called Mahal.
599
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:32,930
Mahal is the Hebrew acronym.
600
00:50:37,470 --> 00:50:38,470
Volunteers from abroad.
601
00:50:40,780 --> 00:50:43,020
The Machal was a truly global
enterprise.
602
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:46,220
There were about 3 ,500 of them from
throughout the world.
603
00:50:48,460 --> 00:50:55,040
Many were not Jewish, and about 190 of
the Machal were volunteers for the Air
604
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,040
Force.
605
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:04,180
They came from Canada, from England,
from South
606
00:51:04,180 --> 00:51:05,180
Africa.
607
00:51:06,660 --> 00:51:08,580
Everyone came for a different reason.
608
00:51:11,530 --> 00:51:18,190
The arrival in Israel of large groups of
volunteers, morale
609
00:51:18,190 --> 00:51:19,990
-wise, had a tremendous impact.
610
00:51:20,350 --> 00:51:24,570
The Israelis understood that they
weren't alone, if you like, in contrast
611
00:51:24,570 --> 00:51:28,430
Jews in the Holocaust who did feel alone
and were alone.
612
00:51:30,050 --> 00:51:33,210
They had expertise that very few people
in Israel did.
613
00:51:33,590 --> 00:51:36,170
Ground crew, radio technicians.
614
00:51:37,610 --> 00:51:42,850
Each individual Makhal participant had
the potential to contribute to the war
615
00:51:42,850 --> 00:51:46,390
effort far above and beyond even their
experience in World War II.
616
00:51:51,010 --> 00:51:56,210
During truce periods, they took us into
this little hotel called the Park Hotel.
617
00:51:56,970 --> 00:52:01,170
And they were partying. Beautiful girls,
guys, soldiers.
618
00:52:03,110 --> 00:52:05,190
And I figured this was a great war.
619
00:52:13,740 --> 00:52:14,740
We were notorious.
620
00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:18,240
We weren't looking for trouble, but we
were always looking for action.
621
00:52:20,900 --> 00:52:23,940
The fighter squadron had these red
baseball caps.
622
00:52:26,460 --> 00:52:31,160
Any time a bar owner saw their caps
coming, he'd call the police.
623
00:52:32,620 --> 00:52:35,660
We used to steal a jeep because we had
no vehicles.
624
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,740
We called that moonlight requisitioning.
625
00:52:40,259 --> 00:52:44,280
Somebody would come along with a tow
chain and hook onto the Jeep and pull it
626
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,780
out to the base, and that's how we got
our vehicle.
627
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,420
Somehow or other, money alone was able
to keep us together.
628
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,960
You had to put up with a lot of
nonsense.
629
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:04,640
One night we got so bombed out that we
took a big jar or something and threw it
630
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:05,680
against the mirror.
631
00:53:07,470 --> 00:53:12,690
Somebody took out the back bar at the
Park Hotel, which money made us pay for
632
00:53:12,690 --> 00:53:13,690
collectively.
633
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:19,290
These are some of the shtick we used to
pull. We used to pull all kinds of
634
00:53:19,290 --> 00:53:20,290
stuff.
635
00:53:21,550 --> 00:53:22,670
I love Giddy.
636
00:53:23,890 --> 00:53:25,250
He's special.
637
00:53:26,650 --> 00:53:29,010
Leon Franco was legitimate.
638
00:53:30,510 --> 00:53:32,510
Torpedo bomber pilot in the Navy.
639
00:53:32,730 --> 00:53:36,290
He won the highest medal, the Navy
Cross.
640
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:42,680
Handsome. We were all stupors, but he
was the primo stupor.
641
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:49,240
I had a couple of girlfriends there. I
don't know if it was my looks or my
642
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:54,700
status or what it was that attracted
them, but we got along very well.
643
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,060
And that's about all I can say about
that.
644
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,180
Many of the volunteers, most of them,
did not speak Hebrew.
645
00:54:07,590 --> 00:54:10,990
Many of the Israelis did not speak very
good English.
646
00:54:12,470 --> 00:54:14,970
Social relations between the two of them
could be difficult.
647
00:54:16,490 --> 00:54:22,450
I don't think the Israelis were too
pleased with us because we swaggered
648
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:27,490
For them, it was a different experience.
It was a hard life.
649
00:54:28,330 --> 00:54:30,650
The economy was not firmly established.
650
00:54:33,310 --> 00:54:36,470
There was great poverty there, and there
were shortages.
651
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,680
And the new state was still absorbing
tens of thousands of survivors.
652
00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:54,260
I met this girl at the Park Hotel.
653
00:54:55,080 --> 00:55:00,300
The conflict arose when it came whether
I would settle in Israel.
654
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,480
I said, no, I'm a Yankee, an American.
655
00:55:04,180 --> 00:55:07,660
She said, well, you're a Jew. I said, I
can be an American and a Jew, can't I?
656
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,360
I said, I'm here to help you people.
657
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:13,180
You can help us by helping us grow.
658
00:55:13,660 --> 00:55:17,440
I said, I'm helping you become an
entity. Isn't that enough?
659
00:55:18,820 --> 00:55:24,640
I didn't know then that I was one of
them, or I didn't admit it.
660
00:55:32,060 --> 00:55:36,740
On the 8th of July, the Egyptians broke
the first truce.
661
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,840
And then Israel went over to the
offensive.
662
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,440
The Air Force plan was to have this
lightning raid right at the beginning of
663
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,300
next round of fighting to go after the
most forward Egyptian base at El Arish
664
00:56:05,300 --> 00:56:07,580
and to knock their planes out on the
ground.
665
00:56:08,299 --> 00:56:10,340
Lou Lenard again headed that mission.
666
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,820
Bob Vickman was one of the other pilots.
667
00:56:13,420 --> 00:56:16,020
Stan Andrews was to be part of that
mission as well. He and Bob were going
668
00:56:16,020 --> 00:56:17,020
fly together.
669
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:34,600
Andrews' plane, as these planes often
did, ground looped on takeoff, and he
670
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:35,600
ended up in a cloud of dust.
671
00:56:38,410 --> 00:56:42,270
The remaining three planes formed up and
went south, but they'd used up valuable
672
00:56:42,270 --> 00:56:46,550
fuel while waiting for the Andrews
situation to be sorted out and had to
673
00:56:46,550 --> 00:56:47,710
back before reaching the target.
674
00:56:49,790 --> 00:56:56,790
I'm flying low south, and I saw a troop
ship unloading supplies and
675
00:56:56,790 --> 00:56:58,330
troops in the port of Gaza.
676
00:56:59,970 --> 00:57:05,730
I turned left and came over, and my
other two planes followed me.
677
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,520
And I dove down on the ship.
678
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,500
My number two was hit.
679
00:57:21,580 --> 00:57:23,060
An American kid.
680
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,700
Bob Dickman's plane plunged into the
sea.
681
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,760
Dan was devastated by his best friend
having gone missing on this mission and
682
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:41,460
committed himself to doing everything in
his power to locating Bob, dead or
683
00:57:41,460 --> 00:57:42,460
alive.
684
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,020
He said, I came here with Bob and I'm
not leaving without him.
685
00:57:47,820 --> 00:57:51,860
Tragically, he ended up keeping that
promise because his plane also crashed
686
00:57:51,860 --> 00:57:53,040
his body was never found.
687
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:12,660
One of Al Schwimmer's great coups was to
purchase three B -17 bombers, and he
688
00:58:12,660 --> 00:58:17,140
smuggled them out of the country to
Florida and managed to get them over to
689
00:58:17,140 --> 00:58:18,140
Czechoslovakia.
690
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,400
So then there became this great debate.
What do we do with these B -17s? Do we
691
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,360
just fly them to Israel, and do we
actually use them to strike at the Arabs
692
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,720
before they've made their way into the
country?
693
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,080
Egypt had been bombing Israel for all
this time.
694
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,880
Cairo had never been bombed before.
695
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,440
Schwimmer himself had been a TWA pilot
and some of the others had been
696
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:44,460
commercial pilots as well.
697
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:54,920
So when they flew into Cairo, the radio
went off from the traffic control
698
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,540
tower at the Cairo airport asking the
plane to identify itself.
699
00:59:00,940 --> 00:59:04,980
One of the pilots said, oh, this is TWA
Flight 38. We're coming in, and they
700
00:59:04,980 --> 00:59:09,860
turned on the runway lights at the
airport for this P -17, which, of
701
00:59:09,900 --> 00:59:12,340
strafed and bombed the Cairo area as a
result.
702
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:25,300
One bomb fell near King Farouk's palace,
and psychologically it made a very,
703
00:59:25,340 --> 00:59:27,080
very profound impression on the
Egyptians.
704
00:59:30,380 --> 00:59:33,640
The next day, thousands left Cairo.
705
00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:36,140
They felt it was too dangerous.
706
00:59:39,620 --> 00:59:44,260
And Israel at that point had a real
credible bomber force, which nobody else
707
00:59:44,260 --> 00:59:45,260
really had.
708
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:54,260
For the third round of fighting, the
goal was to displace the Egyptians once
709
00:59:54,260 --> 00:59:55,260
for all from the Negev.
710
01:00:03,690 --> 01:00:09,010
We had a contingent of soldiers down
there, totally cut off, totally
711
01:00:11,470 --> 01:00:12,670
They had no weapons.
712
01:00:13,830 --> 01:00:15,490
You couldn't get in by sea.
713
01:00:16,430 --> 01:00:18,070
You couldn't truck them in.
714
01:00:20,970 --> 01:00:22,630
They had to be flown in.
715
01:00:24,290 --> 01:00:25,710
That was Schwimmer's mission.
716
01:00:27,210 --> 01:00:29,930
And he put airstrips in, on the sand.
717
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,040
We brought them in. We brought every
screwdriver in.
718
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,320
They would have literally starved to
death had it not been for the supplies
719
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:46,320
were brought in.
720
01:00:47,860 --> 01:00:51,680
Really, the whole survival of the Negev
communities was because of the Air
721
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:52,680
Force.
722
01:00:53,980 --> 01:00:55,860
We would take off from Tel Aviv.
723
01:00:56,140 --> 01:00:58,560
We'd bring palm optics in.
724
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,380
Take out wounded.
725
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:02,800
Fly them back.
726
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:08,520
These guys were real soldiers who had
taken one for the country.
727
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:13,420
Tough guys. A lot of them were refugees,
too, by the way, from Europe.
728
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:19,240
They were pleased to have given what
they gave for this.
729
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,080
I went down there and saw all these
kids.
730
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,080
Couldn't believe it.
731
01:01:28,380 --> 01:01:30,960
They could only be equipped with what we
could equip them with.
732
01:01:35,020 --> 01:01:39,060
I did have a conversation with a girl,
got in a holster.
733
01:01:39,820 --> 01:01:44,460
I thought about my own sister, my little
sister, who was about the same age at
734
01:01:44,460 --> 01:01:46,740
the time, packing a gun.
735
01:01:48,460 --> 01:01:55,220
The Arabs, if they were in trouble, they
could go home and
736
01:01:55,220 --> 01:01:56,980
live to fight another day.
737
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,980
The Israelis couldn't afford to lose,
and they knew it.
738
01:02:03,340 --> 01:02:05,220
They were willing to give their lives.
739
01:02:13,860 --> 01:02:17,220
October 16th, I remember the day very
well.
740
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:25,060
I was heading out over the mega by
myself, and I came upon this engagement.
741
01:02:27,140 --> 01:02:30,260
I saw an ME -109.
742
01:02:30,750 --> 01:02:35,930
right behind a spitfire, knocking chunks
off of it. And I looked to the left and
743
01:02:35,930 --> 01:02:38,370
saw another Egyptian spitfire.
744
01:02:42,410 --> 01:02:48,350
By the time I pulled around, he was a
little speck in the sky, halfway to
745
01:02:49,950 --> 01:02:52,990
And all of a sudden, the engine started
running rough.
746
01:02:53,490 --> 01:02:57,450
So I looked at the oil gauge, and it
read zero.
747
01:02:58,220 --> 01:03:02,580
Now, in all my years of flying, I had
never seen an oil gauge read zero.
748
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,740
And then I started smelling smoke.
749
01:03:06,980 --> 01:03:12,620
I said, Leon, you better look for a
place to come down because you're not
750
01:03:12,620 --> 01:03:13,620
to make it.
751
01:03:22,700 --> 01:03:25,120
I just cleared the orange rose.
752
01:03:25,580 --> 01:03:30,600
slid forward and went up on its nose and
back down on the ground. I got a face
753
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:31,600
full of dirt.
754
01:03:34,180 --> 01:03:40,040
I knew I had to go west and north to get
away from the Jordanian lines.
755
01:03:44,220 --> 01:03:48,320
Off in the distance, coming down the
road, I saw a truck with soldiers in it.
756
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,480
I knew what had happened to other downed
pilots.
757
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,780
a couple of them, and I wasn't going to
be taken prisoner.
758
01:04:00,580 --> 01:04:02,500
I pulled out my revolver.
759
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,420
Well, if it's Jordanians, I'm going to
take five of them and save the last
760
01:04:07,420 --> 01:04:08,420
bullet for myself.
761
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,480
About 50 yards away, I heard Hebrew
being spoken.
762
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,520
So I jumped out and started waving my
arms.
763
01:04:22,670 --> 01:04:28,050
By the time I got to the air base, I
could see there was an airplane burning.
764
01:04:30,750 --> 01:04:34,970
I asked somebody what it was. He said it
was one of the pilots who was either
765
01:04:34,970 --> 01:04:36,830
Muddy Alon or Acer Weichman.
766
01:04:40,310 --> 01:04:46,270
Acer's parents, they came into my room
hysterical, both of them. Is my son
767
01:04:46,390 --> 01:04:47,390
Is my son dead?
768
01:04:47,890 --> 01:04:50,530
I said, no, he's alive. He's alive. He's
alive.
769
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,800
It turned out to be Marialon.
770
01:05:41,670 --> 01:05:43,390
It was a horror.
771
01:05:46,310 --> 01:05:50,590
Devastating. Devastating. We felt that
we had really lost our leader.
772
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,020
It was like losing our heart.
773
01:06:02,820 --> 01:06:06,240
As we were leaving the funeral, I was in
the back of a Jeep.
774
01:06:06,540 --> 01:06:08,520
I started going into shock.
775
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,460
And my limbs wouldn't move.
776
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,020
I felt totally paralyzed.
777
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,740
So they took me to a hospital in Jaffa.
778
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,020
Then I decided I'd had enough.
779
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:32,220
We'd gotten some replacement pilots, so
I didn't feel like I was leaving the
780
01:06:32,220 --> 01:06:34,080
squadron in any kind of jeopardy.
781
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:41,580
Policies were always free to leave.
782
01:06:42,060 --> 01:06:45,500
The Israelis realized they were going to
need as quickly as possible to train
783
01:06:45,500 --> 01:06:48,040
the local population to be able to take
on this burden themselves.
784
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,760
Danny Shapiro was a particularly
fascinating young Israeli pilot.
785
01:06:54,020 --> 01:06:56,520
Some of us were sent to Czechoslovakia.
786
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:01,080
to train as soon as possible to fly back
to Israel.
787
01:07:01,780 --> 01:07:08,140
We heard that some of the volunteers,
they left the country, their families,
788
01:07:08,140 --> 01:07:09,340
know, they went back.
789
01:07:13,940 --> 01:07:17,600
I said to the guys, we will never
surrender.
790
01:07:18,460 --> 01:07:25,180
We have to study as fast as possible so
there will not be another Holocaust.
791
01:07:27,500 --> 01:07:33,120
In November, they asked me to go back to
Czechoslovakia and train some of the
792
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,260
Israeli pilots that were being trained
in Czechoslovakia.
793
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:42,320
George Lichter was fearless. He was not
afraid to go up time and time again in a
794
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,480
plane that everybody else was quite
fearful of.
795
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,220
One day arriving, a guy looks, you know,
tough.
796
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:51,900
He said, I'm George Lichter.
797
01:07:52,780 --> 01:07:58,360
I came to see who is capable to fly a
fighter airplane and who is not.
798
01:08:00,020 --> 01:08:03,740
In fact, we didn't sleep that night, you
know, I was so scared.
799
01:08:06,980 --> 01:08:09,440
He flew with me, one flight.
800
01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:22,380
He said, do this, turn left, turn right,
tall, spin.
801
01:08:27,819 --> 01:08:28,819
I got back.
802
01:08:29,779 --> 01:08:31,279
And I made a nice landing.
803
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:38,960
George Yusuf said, now you brief those
guys what to do, what to avoid.
804
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,960
The Czechoslovakians agreed to sell a
bunch of World War II Spitfires to
805
01:08:48,270 --> 01:08:52,350
The Spitfire could climb like an angel.
It was really a great plane.
806
01:08:52,850 --> 01:08:58,970
And they asked me to fly with the
Spitfires to Israel so they could enter
807
01:08:58,970 --> 01:08:59,970
war right away.
808
01:09:00,490 --> 01:09:06,550
We were short two pilots, and I
recommended that we take these students.
809
01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:08,750
were basically novices. They were
beginners.
810
01:09:11,250 --> 01:09:17,189
The more experienced pilots, they spoke
to us like if we were going to get
811
01:09:17,189 --> 01:09:18,189
killed.
812
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,359
They said, it's very dangerous.
813
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,520
You don't have any experience flying in
bad weather.
814
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:30,040
I said to Monty, let's keep the mouth
shut.
815
01:09:30,300 --> 01:09:35,460
They won't put us on the formation if we
say that we are afraid to fly. So I
816
01:09:35,460 --> 01:09:36,460
didn't say anything.
817
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:57,000
It was so cold, you know, I was
freezing. My hands were freezing.
818
01:10:01,020 --> 01:10:02,580
They flew on my wing.
819
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,320
Mati on one wing and Danny Shapiro on
the other.
820
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:13,100
Once we got into the clouds, it all
messed up.
821
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:19,580
I was close to George and all of a
sudden I lost sight of him because of
822
01:10:19,580 --> 01:10:20,580
clouds.
823
01:10:21,610 --> 01:10:27,590
To avoid a collision, I turned slightly
to the right to open up the space.
824
01:10:28,650 --> 01:10:30,530
All of a sudden, I was alone.
825
01:10:31,650 --> 01:10:38,250
I saw my artificial horizon moving, and
I'm losing altitude.
826
01:10:42,450 --> 01:10:45,450
Somehow he got lost from the group.
827
01:10:47,930 --> 01:10:49,750
I went down looking for him.
828
01:10:51,730 --> 01:10:53,970
My airspeed was building up.
829
01:10:54,350 --> 01:10:55,950
I didn't know how to recover.
830
01:10:56,530 --> 01:10:59,870
And I knew, Danny, that's it.
831
01:11:00,090 --> 01:11:01,170
You're going to die.
832
01:11:02,850 --> 01:11:06,070
I was very concerned. How am I going to
find that little speck?
833
01:11:08,130 --> 01:11:12,770
And all of a sudden, he saw me much
lower, you know, spiraling.
834
01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:17,350
I saw George saying, come over, come
over.
835
01:11:17,570 --> 01:11:19,430
I could see his mouth. Come over.
836
01:11:20,270 --> 01:11:23,250
He picked me up and he brought me back.
837
01:11:30,730 --> 01:11:32,150
He saved my life.
838
01:11:44,170 --> 01:11:48,670
He was sure that we will make it.
839
01:11:49,420 --> 01:11:50,500
And we made it.
840
01:11:52,740 --> 01:11:53,900
We made it.
841
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:05,240
Next day, the Israel army pushed the
Egyptian army back.
842
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,440
And those Spitfires took a big part.
843
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:18,360
Really.
844
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,860
fighting and winning by this time.
845
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:30,340
As a Jew, I now felt proud of being
Jewish.
846
01:12:36,420 --> 01:12:40,320
The final phase of the war was from the
22nd of December.
847
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:47,480
It was a great battle, and the Air Force
threw in everything it had.
848
01:12:47,850 --> 01:12:54,450
Again, for Egyptians, with the B -17s
and the Spitfires and the C -46s.
849
01:13:00,790 --> 01:13:05,430
It really was a hell out effort, you
might say.
850
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:28,000
The 48th war ended when the Israelis
surrounded the Egyptian army, which was
851
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:33,100
concentrated in the Gaza Strip, forcing
the Egyptians to call it quits and to
852
01:13:33,100 --> 01:13:34,240
call for an armistice.
853
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:44,780
The United Nations Security Council
decreed that the final ceasefire
854
01:13:44,780 --> 01:13:49,300
would be on the 7th of January, 1949.
855
01:13:57,070 --> 01:14:02,130
The 1948 war was the most historically
significant of the Israeli -Arab wars.
856
01:14:04,610 --> 01:14:08,950
This was a tremendous blow to the Arab
world and is remembered as such to this
857
01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:09,950
day.
858
01:14:13,670 --> 01:14:18,570
It's also significant because during
that war, Palestinian society was
859
01:14:18,570 --> 01:14:19,710
essentially crushed.
860
01:14:20,220 --> 01:14:24,580
And 700 ,000 Palestinians were displaced
from their homes and became refugees.
861
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,480
And this is a second consequence of the
war.
862
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:37,800
The Palestinian people, to this day, see
it as a catastrophe, or in Arabic, a
863
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:38,800
Nakba.
864
01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:44,960
It was a very difficult war.
865
01:14:47,210 --> 01:14:52,010
Close to 1 % of the population were
killed, so it was a very, very difficult
866
01:14:52,010 --> 01:14:53,010
extended war.
867
01:14:59,950 --> 01:15:05,210
The people who fought in 1948 and
brought about the creation of the State
868
01:15:05,210 --> 01:15:06,210
Israel.
869
01:15:07,310 --> 01:15:10,650
For most of them, this was the golden
moment of their lives.
870
01:15:22,700 --> 01:15:24,800
On March 14, 1949,
871
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,500
there was a big parade.
872
01:15:37,860 --> 01:15:39,680
I received my wings.
873
01:15:42,980 --> 01:15:44,600
I had tears in my eyes.
874
01:15:45,780 --> 01:15:49,340
This was my wish. Long time when I was a
kid.
875
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:51,560
Now I became a pilot.
876
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:56,020
In the Israeli Air Force, in my Air
Force, in my country.
877
01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:09,500
To train a pilot takes years.
878
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:17,160
And there came a group, experienced,
volunteers, who
879
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,960
risked their lives, who risked their
passports.
880
01:16:22,090 --> 01:16:26,010
They fought, they trained, they built.
881
01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:28,870
It was a godsend.
882
01:16:32,910 --> 01:16:39,210
When I came back, my father would boast
to his patients
883
01:16:39,210 --> 01:16:44,670
and his colleagues about my son who
saved Israel.
884
01:16:52,650 --> 01:16:54,130
It changed my whole life.
885
01:16:57,790 --> 01:16:59,730
It made me a mensch.
886
01:17:02,090 --> 01:17:04,970
I had done something good for once.
887
01:17:13,050 --> 01:17:18,090
There was a picture of me standing next
to Ben -Gurion, my father.
888
01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:20,690
He used to cavil. He loved it.
889
01:17:26,540 --> 01:17:31,380
My father used to look at me kind of out
of the side of, you know, like this.
890
01:17:32,180 --> 01:17:34,000
What is he going to do next?
891
01:17:35,580 --> 01:17:39,520
When I went to school, I got terrible
grades because I never cracked a book.
892
01:17:44,460 --> 01:17:46,720
I know they were both very, very proud.
893
01:17:51,380 --> 01:17:52,720
Those were the best days.
894
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:55,840
We built an Air Force.
895
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,480
During difficult times, did you feel
that Israel would survive?
896
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,580
Somehow, yes, and I'll tell you why.
897
01:18:18,620 --> 01:18:20,220
Israel is an article of faith.
898
01:18:26,190 --> 01:18:30,970
I felt more at home in Israel than I did
in the United States. I felt this was
899
01:18:30,970 --> 01:18:31,970
my home.
900
01:18:39,230 --> 01:18:43,730
When I came back with my wife to Israel,
we were four couples in one little
901
01:18:43,730 --> 01:18:46,170
apartment. We shared everything.
902
01:18:47,230 --> 01:18:48,230
Doors were open.
903
01:18:48,450 --> 01:18:51,050
I don't remember a locked door in those
days.
904
01:18:53,630 --> 01:18:55,490
The happiest days of my life.
905
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:05,960
I was born to be here on that moment of
history to
906
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:07,820
contribute to Israel's survival.
907
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,720
And that's the most important thing I
did in my life.
908
01:19:21,820 --> 01:19:24,740
We have a great word in Yiddish, it's
bashert.
909
01:19:24,980 --> 01:19:27,380
It's fated. It's meant to be.
910
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:34,700
Maybe God spared us in World War II so
that we could come to Israel and help
911
01:19:34,700 --> 01:19:36,460
remnants of our people survive.
912
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:20,080
Shortly before I left Israel, they
happened to be in Tel Aviv when they
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bringing in refugees from the death
camps in Europe.
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I remember them getting down on their
hands and knees and kissing the ground.
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I knew then and there that was the
reason that I came.
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