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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:28,028 --> 00:00:29,154 On Capitol Hill today, 2 00:00:29,155 --> 00:00:32,073 {\an8}a bipartisan call for more government transparency on UFOs, 3 00:00:32,074 --> 00:00:35,953 {\an8}or as the military calls them, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, UAPs. 4 00:00:37,496 --> 00:00:41,458 {\an8}The objects have been detected essentially where all operations, 5 00:00:41,459 --> 00:00:43,918 {\an8}Navy operations are being conducted across the world. 6 00:00:43,919 --> 00:00:46,880 {\an8}The technology that we faced was far superior 7 00:00:46,881 --> 00:00:50,509 {\an8}than anything we have currently or we're gonna have in the next 20 years. 8 00:00:52,261 --> 00:00:57,348 {\an8}Unidentified aerial phenomena are a potential national security threat 9 00:00:57,349 --> 00:00:59,225 {\an8}and they need to be treated that way. 10 00:00:59,226 --> 00:01:02,979 United States government has gathered a great deal of information 11 00:01:02,980 --> 00:01:05,482 about UAPs over many decades, 12 00:01:05,483 --> 00:01:08,401 but has refused to share it with the American people. 13 00:01:08,402 --> 00:01:11,781 That is wrong, and additionally, it breeds mistrust. 14 00:01:26,128 --> 00:01:28,922 I spent 11 years in the US Navy as a fighter pilot. 15 00:01:28,923 --> 00:01:31,466 For 18 years, I flew fighters for the US Navy. 16 00:01:31,467 --> 00:01:34,385 I spent 20 years working in the US intelligence community. 17 00:01:34,386 --> 00:01:37,514 I served as the fourth Director of National Intelligence. 18 00:01:37,515 --> 00:01:40,850 I spent 25 years as a senior official with the CIA. 19 00:01:40,851 --> 00:01:44,562 I retired from the Navy as a one-star admiral after 32 years of service. 20 00:01:44,563 --> 00:01:49,859 I worked on highly classified UAP programs for the government as a senior scientist. 21 00:01:49,860 --> 00:01:52,904 I spent 32 years in and out of government in national security. 22 00:01:52,905 --> 00:01:58,117 I've worked 28 years as an astrophysicist on highly classified UAP programs 23 00:01:58,118 --> 00:02:01,246 for the United States government and for the defense industry. 24 00:02:01,247 --> 00:02:03,248 I'm a professor in the department of pathology 25 00:02:03,249 --> 00:02:05,375 at Stanford University School of Medicine. 26 00:02:05,376 --> 00:02:07,710 And for the last ten years or so, 27 00:02:07,711 --> 00:02:10,088 I've been working with the Department of Defense 28 00:02:10,089 --> 00:02:13,049 and people in the CIA on the UAP topic. 29 00:02:13,050 --> 00:02:17,136 I've come to the conclusion that we are not only not alone in the universe, 30 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:18,763 but we have been discovered 31 00:02:18,764 --> 00:02:21,766 by an intelligence from some other part of the universe. 32 00:02:21,767 --> 00:02:23,476 There's evidence we are not alone. 33 00:02:23,477 --> 00:02:27,230 Humanity is not the only intelligent species in the universe. 34 00:02:27,231 --> 00:02:28,857 We're not alone in the universe. 35 00:02:28,858 --> 00:02:30,817 I wouldn't be so arrogant to suggest 36 00:02:30,818 --> 00:02:34,028 there are no other forms of life out there. 37 00:02:34,029 --> 00:02:36,698 Humanity is not the only intelligence in the universe. 38 00:02:36,699 --> 00:02:40,368 UAPs are real. They're here and they're not human. 39 00:02:40,369 --> 00:02:45,582 There are other intelligences that have highly advanced exotic craft 40 00:02:45,583 --> 00:02:49,586 interacting with the human population. 41 00:02:49,587 --> 00:02:53,423 They are here. This is real. It's happening. It's happening now. 42 00:02:53,424 --> 00:02:55,425 Non-human intelligence exists. 43 00:02:55,426 --> 00:02:57,218 It's been interacting with humanity 44 00:02:57,219 --> 00:03:00,054 and it's been doing so on this planet for a long time. 45 00:03:00,055 --> 00:03:02,473 We are not the only intelligent life form in the universe. 46 00:03:02,474 --> 00:03:06,102 There's something here on the planet with us that is intelligent 47 00:03:06,103 --> 00:03:07,770 and more intelligent than us. 48 00:03:07,771 --> 00:03:11,442 This is the biggest discovery in human history. 49 00:03:29,710 --> 00:03:34,297 My name is Lue Elizondo. In 2009, my life changed forever. 50 00:03:34,298 --> 00:03:38,509 {\an8}That's when I was recruited into a highly sensitive government program 51 00:03:38,510 --> 00:03:42,889 that investigated Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon, UAP, 52 00:03:42,890 --> 00:03:45,100 also commonly known as UFOs. 53 00:03:45,976 --> 00:03:48,269 My work for the US government goes back 54 00:03:48,270 --> 00:03:51,731 almost 30 years to when I joined the US Army. 55 00:03:51,732 --> 00:03:53,483 From there, I had the good fortune 56 00:03:53,484 --> 00:03:57,111 of being recruited into various programs within military intelligence. 57 00:03:57,112 --> 00:03:58,988 During my career, I served my country 58 00:03:58,989 --> 00:04:01,407 around the world, managing and directing missions, 59 00:04:01,408 --> 00:04:03,701 including counter-narcotics, counter-espionage, 60 00:04:03,702 --> 00:04:06,412 counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency. 61 00:04:06,413 --> 00:04:09,415 And it was later in my career that I actually began running 62 00:04:09,416 --> 00:04:11,668 special access programs for the US government, 63 00:04:11,669 --> 00:04:14,045 and in some cases reported directly to the White House 64 00:04:14,046 --> 00:04:16,006 and the National Security Council. 65 00:04:17,049 --> 00:04:18,549 {\an8}My name is Jay Stratton, 66 00:04:18,550 --> 00:04:21,970 {\an8}and for over 16 years on behalf of the US government, 67 00:04:21,971 --> 00:04:26,183 {\an8}I worked as a senior intelligence official on the UAP topic. 68 00:04:27,559 --> 00:04:30,770 I joined the Army at the age of 17 and left for a career 69 00:04:30,771 --> 00:04:33,439 in military intelligence with eight combat deployments, 70 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,067 including Iraq and Afghanistan. 71 00:04:36,318 --> 00:04:38,695 After the Army, I joined Naval Intelligence, 72 00:04:38,696 --> 00:04:41,656 and then I transitioned to the Defense Intelligence Agency, 73 00:04:41,657 --> 00:04:43,908 where I was the chief of air and space warfare 74 00:04:43,909 --> 00:04:45,576 inside of the Defense Warning office. 75 00:04:45,577 --> 00:04:49,455 It was at the DIA that my colleagues and I started getting reports 76 00:04:49,456 --> 00:04:51,374 of what are now called UAP. 77 00:04:51,375 --> 00:04:54,794 {\an8}We went all over the government, pentagon, every intelligence agency, 78 00:04:54,795 --> 00:04:59,215 anywhere we could think to try to find the UAP program, assuming there was one. 79 00:04:59,216 --> 00:05:00,633 As far as we could tell, 80 00:05:00,634 --> 00:05:03,761 no one in the United States government had a UAP program, 81 00:05:03,762 --> 00:05:06,848 so my colleagues and I began a new program, 82 00:05:06,849 --> 00:05:08,641 which ultimately became AATIP. 83 00:05:08,642 --> 00:05:13,272 {\an8}The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, AATIP. 84 00:05:14,398 --> 00:05:16,816 The funding for this effort was sponsored by 85 00:05:16,817 --> 00:05:20,070 then Senate majority leader Senator Harry Reid. 86 00:05:21,405 --> 00:05:24,407 And together myself, Jay Stratton and our team 87 00:05:24,408 --> 00:05:29,203 for nearly a decade investigated UAP incidents around the world. 88 00:05:29,204 --> 00:05:31,414 Based on hard evidence and data, 89 00:05:31,415 --> 00:05:36,419 we learned that UAPs present serious national security concerns 90 00:05:36,420 --> 00:05:39,173 and a potential existential threat. 91 00:05:40,174 --> 00:05:43,634 Simply put, transmedium crafts, 92 00:05:43,635 --> 00:05:49,808 vehicles that have the capability to operate in space, air, 93 00:05:50,559 --> 00:05:56,022 and water, and seemingly defy all that humanity knows about physics 94 00:05:56,023 --> 00:06:01,570 have been operating with complete impunity around the world since at least the 1940s. 95 00:06:03,072 --> 00:06:07,950 At AATIP, we had access to some of the most sensitive videos 96 00:06:07,951 --> 00:06:09,952 in the Department of Defense inventory. 97 00:06:09,953 --> 00:06:14,707 If you could be in my shoes and see what I've seen, and folks like Jay Stratton, 98 00:06:14,708 --> 00:06:19,170 there would be zero shadow of a doubt that these things are real 99 00:06:19,171 --> 00:06:20,838 and they are not made by humans. 100 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,800 The things that I've seen, the clearest videos, 101 00:06:23,801 --> 00:06:25,343 the best evidence that we have 102 00:06:25,344 --> 00:06:28,596 that these are non-human intelligence remain classified. 103 00:06:28,597 --> 00:06:31,516 {\an8}The classified data that we had access to 104 00:06:31,517 --> 00:06:34,393 {\an8}when we joined the program was indisputable. 105 00:06:34,394 --> 00:06:38,606 There's 80 years of this data that the public isn't even aware of. 106 00:06:38,607 --> 00:06:43,278 I have seen with my own eyes non-human craft and non-human beings. 107 00:06:45,906 --> 00:06:48,157 {\an8}For 23 years and ten months, 108 00:06:48,158 --> 00:06:51,452 {\an8}I was in the United States Air Force as an A-10 pilot. 109 00:06:51,453 --> 00:06:54,080 {\an8}And while I was at NORAD, 110 00:06:54,081 --> 00:06:57,543 I witnessed an event that I will remember forever. 111 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:02,171 There was a unknown object we were tracking on radars. 112 00:07:02,172 --> 00:07:05,758 And the commander says, "I want that target." 113 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:07,677 That means intercept it. 114 00:07:07,678 --> 00:07:12,557 Fighters all the way down the eastern seaboard were scrambled, 115 00:07:12,558 --> 00:07:17,770 and none of the fighters were successful in intercepting or running it down. 116 00:07:17,771 --> 00:07:22,776 {\an8}We were unable to maintain air sovereignty over North America. 117 00:07:28,282 --> 00:07:31,784 {\an8}On November 14th, 2004, we were onboard the USS Nimitz, 118 00:07:31,785 --> 00:07:33,620 {\an8}which is a nuclear aircraft carrier. 119 00:07:35,747 --> 00:07:38,249 I was the most senior person in the squadron flying. 120 00:07:38,250 --> 00:07:39,959 I had launched off Nimitz to do 121 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,714 an air defense exercise off the coast of San Diego, California. 122 00:07:44,590 --> 00:07:48,468 And I ended up chasing a UAP known as the Tic Tac UAP. 123 00:07:49,553 --> 00:07:53,598 It was about 40 feet long and just sitting there in space. 124 00:07:53,599 --> 00:07:57,768 You can see it start to accelerate. And as it gets in front of us, it's gone. 125 00:07:57,769 --> 00:08:00,688 This thing was doing 32,000 miles an hour, 126 00:08:00,689 --> 00:08:04,025 so obviously that technology is not the United States. 127 00:08:04,026 --> 00:08:07,695 {\an8} As we were watching this Tic Tac object 128 00:08:07,696 --> 00:08:10,865 maneuver in this bizarre way, 129 00:08:10,866 --> 00:08:12,992 it was obvious that it wasn't conventional. 130 00:08:12,993 --> 00:08:17,330 {\an8}This was defying those laws of physics, 131 00:08:17,331 --> 00:08:21,500 {\an8}laws of gravity that as pilots we live and die by. 132 00:08:21,501 --> 00:08:26,714 We literally had these things stalking Navy vessels on deployment. 133 00:08:26,715 --> 00:08:30,635 The frequency in which UAP were being reported to us was increasing. 134 00:08:30,636 --> 00:08:33,555 {\an8}They were ubiquitous. We were seeing them nearly daily. 135 00:08:36,141 --> 00:08:39,560 My gosh, there's a whole fleet of 'em. Look on the SA! 136 00:08:39,561 --> 00:08:42,813 And then we actually almost had a midair with one of these objects. 137 00:08:42,814 --> 00:08:45,191 This now became a safety issue. 138 00:08:45,192 --> 00:08:48,986 Two aircraft from my squadron were flying in close proximity to each other 139 00:08:48,987 --> 00:08:52,073 in section formation, so about 150 feet apart or so. 140 00:08:52,074 --> 00:08:55,076 One of these objects went right in between those two aircraft, 141 00:08:55,077 --> 00:08:57,286 right past the lead aircraft. 142 00:08:57,287 --> 00:08:59,914 The lead aircraft was visually able to see the object, 143 00:08:59,915 --> 00:09:04,253 and he simply described it as a dark gray or a black cube inside of a clear sphere. 144 00:09:07,214 --> 00:09:08,214 To be clear, 145 00:09:08,215 --> 00:09:12,760 non-human intelligence has been actively conducting 146 00:09:12,761 --> 00:09:16,264 ISR, Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance 147 00:09:16,265 --> 00:09:21,687 of some of our most sensitive US military facilities and nuclear sites. 148 00:09:23,021 --> 00:09:26,732 They have both deactivated and activated nuclear weapons 149 00:09:26,733 --> 00:09:28,693 with both the United States and Russia. 150 00:09:28,694 --> 00:09:34,073 The nuclear weapons that were activated in Russia were pointed at us, 151 00:09:34,074 --> 00:09:39,203 and from that perspective, the stakes really could not be any higher. 152 00:09:39,204 --> 00:09:41,998 This is an emerging and disruptive threat for the US 153 00:09:41,999 --> 00:09:44,292 and truly a national security concern. 154 00:09:44,293 --> 00:09:47,336 By the way, this isn't just happening here in the US. 155 00:09:47,337 --> 00:09:50,841 It's happening all over the world and occurring with greater frequency. 156 00:09:54,469 --> 00:09:56,971 When I met Lue Elizondo in the Pentagon, 157 00:09:56,972 --> 00:10:01,892 he made me aware not only that this phenomenon was real, 158 00:10:01,893 --> 00:10:06,814 but it was an ongoing persistent phenomenon. 159 00:10:06,815 --> 00:10:09,066 {\an8}The Secretary of Defense didn't know, the Congress didn't know, 160 00:10:09,067 --> 00:10:11,110 {\an8}senior policymakers didn't know, 161 00:10:11,111 --> 00:10:15,781 {\an8}and nobody was doing anything about it other than Lue 162 00:10:15,782 --> 00:10:17,700 and a handful of colleagues. 163 00:10:17,701 --> 00:10:20,453 I was shocked and I was stunned, 164 00:10:20,454 --> 00:10:23,622 and immediately was concerned about 165 00:10:23,623 --> 00:10:26,417 intelligence failures that have occurred in the past 166 00:10:26,418 --> 00:10:28,169 and the disasters that have ensued, 167 00:10:28,170 --> 00:10:32,173 and determined immediately to do whatever I could to help get Lue 168 00:10:32,174 --> 00:10:35,343 {\an8}to the Secretary of Defense to move that information forward. 169 00:10:35,344 --> 00:10:39,430 {\an8}Each time Jay and I and others tried to raise the alarm bells 170 00:10:39,431 --> 00:10:42,725 and bring this issue up to the appropriate level, 171 00:10:42,726 --> 00:10:45,019 we were met with fierce resistance. 172 00:10:45,020 --> 00:10:47,897 The stigma alone and the taboo of the topic, 173 00:10:47,898 --> 00:10:52,068 the historical association of "UFOs" was something that 174 00:10:52,069 --> 00:10:56,947 for most people in leadership positions was too big of a pill to swallow. 175 00:10:56,948 --> 00:11:02,161 In fact, the stigma was so strong that people either believed, A, 176 00:11:02,162 --> 00:11:05,748 the topic wasn't real, or B, 177 00:11:05,749 --> 00:11:09,210 the stigma was going to somehow taint or tarnish their career, 178 00:11:09,211 --> 00:11:10,628 so they didn't want to touch it. 179 00:11:10,629 --> 00:11:13,714 {\an8}We couldn't get the leadership in the Pentagon 180 00:11:13,715 --> 00:11:16,300 {\an8}to look at the actual scientific data 181 00:11:16,301 --> 00:11:20,054 that showed that there is a strong national security threat. 182 00:11:20,055 --> 00:11:23,182 They were more worried about the impact on their reputation 183 00:11:23,183 --> 00:11:25,227 than they were about the safety of the nation. 184 00:11:26,853 --> 00:11:28,104 On top of that, 185 00:11:28,105 --> 00:11:31,607 we were shocked to find we were getting pushback from people in the Pentagon 186 00:11:31,608 --> 00:11:34,026 based on their religious beliefs. 187 00:11:34,027 --> 00:11:37,780 There really were religious fundamentalist extremists with in the Pentagon 188 00:11:37,781 --> 00:11:41,409 that had a severe adversity to this topic. 189 00:11:41,410 --> 00:11:43,244 These are national security experts, 190 00:11:43,245 --> 00:11:45,246 senior members of the national intelligence community 191 00:11:45,247 --> 00:11:47,498 who are putting their religion above national security. 192 00:11:47,499 --> 00:11:52,294 A senior DOD official actually stopped me in the hallways in the Pentagon 193 00:11:52,295 --> 00:11:54,630 and told me that we were doing the devil's work. 194 00:11:54,631 --> 00:11:57,883 I had to deal with people who were senior to me who were telling me 195 00:11:57,884 --> 00:12:02,054 in their world that these are demons, and we are poking demons 196 00:12:02,055 --> 00:12:05,057 and messing in Satan's world and all these other things. 197 00:12:05,058 --> 00:12:08,227 I was like, "I can't believe this is coming out of your mouth." 198 00:12:08,228 --> 00:12:12,773 I'm briefing about an advanced aerospace vehicle that has been detected 199 00:12:12,774 --> 00:12:15,651 on multiple sensors that's absolutely there, 200 00:12:15,652 --> 00:12:17,903 and you're telling me that you think these are demons 201 00:12:17,904 --> 00:12:20,239 and we shouldn't look at them and study them. 202 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,575 My mind was blown. 203 00:12:23,952 --> 00:12:26,454 While we were trying to overcome all of these hurdles, 204 00:12:26,455 --> 00:12:30,375 we discovered another deeply hidden and much larger UAP program. 205 00:12:32,961 --> 00:12:35,588 This program was so sensitive 206 00:12:35,589 --> 00:12:42,178 that it was withheld from the Secretary of Defense, Congress, 207 00:12:42,179 --> 00:12:45,681 and even the President of the United States. 208 00:12:45,682 --> 00:12:49,560 This program is referred to as "The Legacy Program." 209 00:12:49,561 --> 00:12:51,729 This program had been capturing, 210 00:12:51,730 --> 00:12:57,776 retrieving and reverse engineering UAPs since at least 1947. 211 00:12:57,777 --> 00:12:59,695 On numerous occasions, 212 00:12:59,696 --> 00:13:04,825 these retrievals included the bodies of non-humans, 213 00:13:04,826 --> 00:13:09,663 some sort of intelligence, intelligent being that is not human. 214 00:13:09,664 --> 00:13:12,166 When Jay and I began knocking on doors 215 00:13:12,167 --> 00:13:14,668 and trying to get access into the Legacy Program, 216 00:13:14,669 --> 00:13:18,839 there was this almost like an immune response 217 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,426 by the Legacy Program, and antibodies came out of everywhere 218 00:13:22,427 --> 00:13:23,969 to try to shut us down. 219 00:13:23,970 --> 00:13:28,516 {\an8}We began communicating with scientists involved in the Legacy Program, 220 00:13:28,517 --> 00:13:31,936 {\an8}but their leaders when they learned of this, shut it down aggressively. 221 00:13:31,937 --> 00:13:35,940 Not only were we met with fierce resistance and stonewalling, 222 00:13:35,941 --> 00:13:40,277 we actually had people angry at us that we're even asking the question itself, 223 00:13:40,278 --> 00:13:45,074 as in, you know, what right do we have to inquire about the Legacy Program, 224 00:13:45,075 --> 00:13:47,117 despite the fact we were running AATIP. 225 00:13:47,118 --> 00:13:48,577 Put yourself in my shoes. 226 00:13:48,578 --> 00:13:52,122 I'm conducting investigations of ongoing UAP activity 227 00:13:52,123 --> 00:13:55,709 and there's this Legacy Program that has at least 80 years of information 228 00:13:55,710 --> 00:13:58,128 that could help us better understand this problem 229 00:13:58,129 --> 00:14:01,258 and protect national security, and they refuse to give it to us. 230 00:14:05,095 --> 00:14:08,806 When it became clear that we couldn't work through the system, 231 00:14:08,807 --> 00:14:13,227 I knew from experience having worked with the Senate Armed Services Committee, 232 00:14:13,228 --> 00:14:16,021 what it takes to move this oil tanker. 233 00:14:16,022 --> 00:14:22,987 Think about this immense, immense ship that has massive inertia, 234 00:14:22,988 --> 00:14:25,322 and you're trying to get it to change course. 235 00:14:25,323 --> 00:14:27,408 When it comes to the Department of Defense, 236 00:14:27,409 --> 00:14:31,829 only Congress has the wherewithal to do that. 237 00:14:31,830 --> 00:14:37,209 And the way to get Congress's attention is first and foremost through the press. 238 00:14:37,210 --> 00:14:42,256 I knew we had to get the press engaged to help get the Hill engaged, 239 00:14:42,257 --> 00:14:46,635 to then get back to changing the Defense Department 240 00:14:46,636 --> 00:14:49,930 to study this problem to figure out is there a threat? 241 00:14:49,931 --> 00:14:52,641 Where are these things coming from and how do they work? 242 00:14:52,642 --> 00:14:55,728 As government employees, we're not allowed to talk to the media, 243 00:14:55,729 --> 00:14:58,523 so Lue and I strategized on how to overcome this hurdle. 244 00:15:00,317 --> 00:15:03,027 There were really only two choices. 245 00:15:03,028 --> 00:15:06,030 The first choice was make peace with silence 246 00:15:06,031 --> 00:15:08,949 and sit on what is humanity's greatest secret, 247 00:15:08,950 --> 00:15:11,661 all the while keeping Americans in the dark. 248 00:15:12,829 --> 00:15:16,874 Or two, I could resign my position in protest 249 00:15:16,875 --> 00:15:20,002 and fulfill my obligations to the American people 250 00:15:20,003 --> 00:15:22,672 by telling the truth about what I know about UAP. 251 00:15:27,969 --> 00:15:33,891 There was this difficult moment where Lue had to decide, 252 00:15:33,892 --> 00:15:36,935 "Do I throw in the towel? Do we give up on this?" 253 00:15:36,936 --> 00:15:38,896 "Do we ignore this?" 254 00:15:38,897 --> 00:15:41,440 Or does he fall on his sword? 255 00:15:41,441 --> 00:15:44,360 I couldn't, nor would I ever reveal classified information, 256 00:15:44,361 --> 00:15:48,947 but I knew that if I could say just enough at the unclassified level 257 00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:52,534 to make the media aware and our government officials aware 258 00:15:52,535 --> 00:15:54,286 of the reality of the UAP topic, 259 00:15:54,287 --> 00:15:58,165 then Jay hopefully would be able to use that momentum to go ahead and achieve 260 00:15:58,166 --> 00:16:01,211 the goals that we set out to achieve inside the government. 261 00:16:03,463 --> 00:16:06,423 And we had a number of difficult conversations 262 00:16:06,424 --> 00:16:10,010 because Lue is giving up a very promising career. 263 00:16:10,011 --> 00:16:13,932 {\an8}He loved what he was doing. He was very good at what he was doing. 264 00:16:16,226 --> 00:16:21,856 It's such a profound life decision for Lue to make for himself and his family. 265 00:16:22,607 --> 00:16:26,318 During one of my routine hellish commutes back home, 266 00:16:26,319 --> 00:16:29,697 {\an8}as I was stuck in traffic, looking in front of me and behind me 267 00:16:29,698 --> 00:16:34,535 {\an8}and seeing thousands of cars, I had this profound sense of isolation, 268 00:16:34,536 --> 00:16:37,621 a feeling I had never felt before in my life, 269 00:16:37,622 --> 00:16:41,709 a feeling that I was completely alone. 270 00:16:41,710 --> 00:16:45,003 I might as well have been living on the dark side of the moon. 271 00:16:45,004 --> 00:16:47,589 None of these people around me, 272 00:16:47,590 --> 00:16:52,261 in fact, no one anywhere had any idea 273 00:16:52,262 --> 00:16:54,347 of what was actually going on around them. 274 00:16:55,181 --> 00:16:56,390 Not a clue. 275 00:16:56,391 --> 00:17:00,519 I thought to myself, these individuals deserve to know the truth, 276 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,230 the mere fact that we're not alone in the universe. 277 00:17:03,231 --> 00:17:07,985 How can any one organization, institution, religion, or government 278 00:17:07,986 --> 00:17:11,530 control that or censor that or gatekeep that? 279 00:17:11,531 --> 00:17:16,660 No one has the right to keep fundamental truths 280 00:17:16,661 --> 00:17:19,789 away from the American people and humanity. 281 00:17:20,623 --> 00:17:25,043 {\an8} CNN has learned the Pentagon had a secretive program to research UFOs. 282 00:17:25,044 --> 00:17:29,840 {\an8}The existence of a secret government program to investigate UFO sightings. 283 00:17:29,841 --> 00:17:33,552 {\an8}A recent report by the New York Times unveiled the existence of a real life 284 00:17:33,553 --> 00:17:35,095 X-Files department, 285 00:17:35,096 --> 00:17:39,016 their secret government program to investigate mysterious flying objects. 286 00:17:39,017 --> 00:17:42,686 {\an8}This seems potentially like one of the biggest stories of my lifetime. 287 00:17:42,687 --> 00:17:44,897 {\an8}These aircraft, we'll call 'em aircraft, 288 00:17:44,898 --> 00:17:48,150 {\an8}are displaying characteristics that are not currently 289 00:17:48,151 --> 00:17:51,988 {\an8}within the US inventory nor in any foreign inventory. 290 00:17:52,781 --> 00:17:55,949 Look at that thing, dude. My gosh. 291 00:17:55,950 --> 00:17:58,243 {\an8}This is a very serious national security issue. 292 00:17:58,244 --> 00:18:01,497 {\an8}Something is in our skies. It has been there for quite some time. 293 00:18:01,498 --> 00:18:03,040 {\an8} There's a whole fleet of 'em. 294 00:18:03,041 --> 00:18:05,083 {\an8}You have objects that are doing things, 295 00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:08,170 {\an8}maneuvering in ways without any obvious sign of propulsion. 296 00:18:08,171 --> 00:18:11,715 {\an8}My submission is that what we are looking at is truly, 297 00:18:11,716 --> 00:18:16,929 by definition, exotic technologies, beyond next generation technologies. 298 00:18:16,930 --> 00:18:21,016 {\an8}And the bureaucracy and the Department of Defense really limited our ability 299 00:18:21,017 --> 00:18:23,937 {\an8}to keep leadership informed of what we were seeing. 300 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,235 As soon as the media started paying attention, 301 00:18:31,236 --> 00:18:32,945 Congress started paying attention, 302 00:18:32,946 --> 00:18:35,239 and I started getting calls from the Hill for briefings. 303 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,536 {\an8}Senators received a classified briefing about UFOs at the Pentagon. 304 00:18:40,036 --> 00:18:41,578 Senator Mark Warner, 305 00:18:41,579 --> 00:18:43,997 the vice chair of the Intelligence Committee said, 306 00:18:43,998 --> 00:18:48,001 "Look, I think it's important that the military is taking this more seriously now 307 00:18:48,002 --> 00:18:49,336 than they did in the past." 308 00:18:49,337 --> 00:18:52,589 Senator Rubio and Warner, to their great credit, 309 00:18:52,590 --> 00:18:56,885 put national security above their own personal political careers 310 00:18:56,886 --> 00:19:00,764 and took the risk of engaging publicly on this issue. 311 00:19:00,765 --> 00:19:03,934 {\an8}When they began to engage, the Defense Department had to admit 312 00:19:03,935 --> 00:19:06,144 {\an8}to the world that this was real and it was happening, 313 00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:12,235 {\an8}and that immediately took the entire credibility of the issue up a huge notch. 314 00:19:12,735 --> 00:19:15,988 {\an8}The US Navy has finally acknowledged that videos appearing to show UFOs flying 315 00:19:15,989 --> 00:19:18,031 {\an8}through the air are real. 316 00:19:18,032 --> 00:19:22,953 {\an8} Commander David Fravor describing it like a 40 foot long Tic Tac. 317 00:19:22,954 --> 00:19:25,873 {\an8}The ability to hover over the water and then start a vertical climb 318 00:19:25,874 --> 00:19:28,834 {\an8}from basically zero up towards about 12,000 feet 319 00:19:28,835 --> 00:19:31,295 {\an8}and then accelerate in less than two seconds 320 00:19:31,296 --> 00:19:34,215 {\an8}and disappear is something I had never seen in my life. 321 00:19:38,052 --> 00:19:42,097 {\an8}We've had repeated instances of something operating in the airspace 322 00:19:42,098 --> 00:19:44,516 {\an8}over restricted nuclear facilities, 323 00:19:44,517 --> 00:19:47,394 {\an8}and it's not ours and we don't know whose it is. 324 00:19:47,395 --> 00:19:49,646 {\an8}That alone, just that statement alone, 325 00:19:49,647 --> 00:19:53,025 {\an8}deserves inquiry, deserves attention, deserves focus. 326 00:19:53,026 --> 00:19:56,570 {\an8}If you have objects in the sky that you cannot identify, 327 00:19:56,571 --> 00:20:00,198 {\an8}that's a problem because it could be China, it could be Russia, 328 00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:01,825 {\an8}it could be any adversary. 329 00:20:01,826 --> 00:20:06,413 {\an8}Well, any unexplained phenomenon could pose a national security threat. 330 00:20:06,414 --> 00:20:09,166 {\an8}That's the way you have to treat those things. 331 00:20:09,167 --> 00:20:11,919 {\an8}There's something violating our airspace. 332 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,504 {\an8}There's something fouling arranges 333 00:20:14,505 --> 00:20:18,717 {\an8}that even the people we've tasked in the executive branch to understand this 334 00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:21,178 cannot provide an explanation, 335 00:20:21,179 --> 00:20:24,389 so I would say in addition to the national security implications, 336 00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:27,643 this has implications for basic trust and confidence in the American government. 337 00:20:27,644 --> 00:20:29,811 {\an8}We don't know the origin of the phenomenon, 338 00:20:29,812 --> 00:20:31,480 {\an8}and we're gonna try to get to the bottom of it 339 00:20:31,481 --> 00:20:33,523 {\an8}because for national defense purposes, 340 00:20:33,524 --> 00:20:35,692 {\an8}some of these have been in areas that we train. 341 00:20:35,693 --> 00:20:39,196 These have been in areas where we've got some of our best equipment, 342 00:20:39,197 --> 00:20:42,366 and yet our best equipment has not been able to tag these things. 343 00:20:42,367 --> 00:20:44,910 We've not been able to go in and catch them. 344 00:20:44,911 --> 00:20:46,912 {\an8}No matter what they are, they're invading our airspace 345 00:20:46,913 --> 00:20:49,373 {\an8}and we don't know exactly why they're doing it, 346 00:20:49,374 --> 00:20:51,584 {\an8}what their intent is and what their capabilities are. 347 00:20:53,628 --> 00:20:55,879 In addition to the national security concerns, 348 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,382 this violation of all nations' sovereign airspace 349 00:20:58,383 --> 00:21:03,637 presents a safety of flight concern for all military and civilian aviation. 350 00:21:03,638 --> 00:21:07,307 And the even scarier thing is that the Federal Aviation Administration 351 00:21:07,308 --> 00:21:09,810 stopped using radar to track our air travel. 352 00:21:09,811 --> 00:21:11,687 They only track aircraft, 353 00:21:11,688 --> 00:21:14,648 predominantly commercial and civilian, that are squawking, 354 00:21:14,649 --> 00:21:16,984 so they're actually putting a signal into the system saying, 355 00:21:16,985 --> 00:21:18,152 "Here's where I am." 356 00:21:18,861 --> 00:21:21,029 The only way they know the UAP are there 357 00:21:21,030 --> 00:21:24,157 is if the pilot sees something and says something. 358 00:21:24,158 --> 00:21:27,619 The fact that the FAA is not tracking UAP 359 00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:30,914 is putting American lives at risk every day. 360 00:21:30,915 --> 00:21:32,207 I'm Brett Feddersen. 361 00:21:32,208 --> 00:21:36,670 {\an8}I served as the director of aviation security on the National Security Council 362 00:21:36,671 --> 00:21:40,632 {\an8}and as the acting director for the Federal Aviation Administration's 363 00:21:40,633 --> 00:21:42,884 National Security Programs Office. 364 00:21:42,885 --> 00:21:44,678 I can say through my experience 365 00:21:44,679 --> 00:21:48,807 that we are absolutely not alone in this universe. 366 00:21:48,808 --> 00:21:52,602 The biggest thing that concerns me with UAPs is the national security concern. 367 00:21:52,603 --> 00:21:53,812 It's the unknown. 368 00:21:53,813 --> 00:21:56,898 It's the fact that this technology does stuff that we can't do. 369 00:21:56,899 --> 00:21:59,943 And if we can't figure out what it is or what it wants, 370 00:21:59,944 --> 00:22:02,070 uh, or what it's being used for, 371 00:22:02,071 --> 00:22:05,532 that keeps me up at night and the idea that we're behind the power curve. 372 00:22:05,533 --> 00:22:09,578 We want to be able to maintain the cutting edge technology and the advantage 373 00:22:09,579 --> 00:22:13,165 here in the United States so that we can sleep comfortably at night 374 00:22:13,166 --> 00:22:17,210 and feel the safety of what the American government has provided. 375 00:22:17,211 --> 00:22:20,255 There's sort of, I think, four hypotheses out there, 376 00:22:20,256 --> 00:22:24,885 one of which is that this is foreign adversary technology 377 00:22:24,886 --> 00:22:27,679 that we simply don't understand or weren't aware of, 378 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,265 and that would amount to probably the biggest intelligence failure 379 00:22:30,266 --> 00:22:31,767 in modern American history. 380 00:22:31,768 --> 00:22:35,854 The second of which is that this is a robust counter-intelligence program 381 00:22:35,855 --> 00:22:41,026 to cover up for a US government effort that has fallen, 382 00:22:41,027 --> 00:22:44,321 kind of, away from congressional oversight. 383 00:22:44,322 --> 00:22:48,366 A third hypothesis is obviously that this is, uh, interdimensional 384 00:22:48,367 --> 00:22:49,868 or extra-terrestrial. 385 00:22:49,869 --> 00:22:52,789 The fourth could be a combination of the previous three. 386 00:22:55,041 --> 00:22:57,876 Some of the biggest strategic blunders in human history, 387 00:22:57,877 --> 00:23:00,921 the foundation of those blunders were a lack of imagination. 388 00:23:00,922 --> 00:23:05,092 The belief that an adversary or whoever could not do something 389 00:23:05,093 --> 00:23:06,426 because it had never been done before. 390 00:23:06,427 --> 00:23:09,513 The US thought it was safe for those ships in Pearl Harbor 391 00:23:09,514 --> 00:23:12,307 because we didn't think the Japanese could get there, 392 00:23:12,308 --> 00:23:15,811 much less have torpedoes that could navigate such a narrow straight 393 00:23:15,812 --> 00:23:17,772 and hit these ships until they did. 394 00:23:18,898 --> 00:23:21,817 We never thought in our wildest dreams that terrorists would strike us 395 00:23:21,818 --> 00:23:25,821 in the homeland by training for a year to become pilots 396 00:23:25,822 --> 00:23:28,198 and then hijacking commercial aircraft 397 00:23:28,199 --> 00:23:29,991 and crashing them into buildings, and they did. 398 00:23:29,992 --> 00:23:35,956 The thing that keeps me up at night, something in the human psyche that says, 399 00:23:35,957 --> 00:23:40,335 I don't have time or energy to sort of prepare for the unforeseen 400 00:23:40,336 --> 00:23:42,212 or what I've never seen done before, 401 00:23:42,213 --> 00:23:45,841 and, um, you know, that leads to strategic surprise 402 00:23:45,842 --> 00:23:48,802 and sometimes strategic surprises 403 00:23:48,803 --> 00:23:51,889 change the course of human history. 404 00:23:53,808 --> 00:23:55,183 There was one classified briefing 405 00:23:55,184 --> 00:23:57,602 that I gave to members of the House and Senate, 406 00:23:57,603 --> 00:24:02,232 where I took military pilots to tell them the story of their encounters with UAP. 407 00:24:02,233 --> 00:24:05,570 Those stories left them so rattled that they had trouble sleeping that night. 408 00:24:06,821 --> 00:24:09,990 The United States' most trusted military servicemen and women 409 00:24:09,991 --> 00:24:13,618 and irrefutable data from our intelligence collection systems 410 00:24:13,619 --> 00:24:16,706 have been observing UAP for decades. 411 00:24:18,749 --> 00:24:20,584 Everything observed can be categorized 412 00:24:20,585 --> 00:24:23,378 by five distinct performance characteristics. 413 00:24:23,379 --> 00:24:26,507 At AATIP, we call these The Observables. 414 00:24:28,634 --> 00:24:31,679 The first observable is hypersonic velocity. 415 00:24:32,555 --> 00:24:38,393 {\an8}Our current fastest aircraft can go roughly 4,600 miles per hour. 416 00:24:38,394 --> 00:24:43,440 {\an8}However, the UAP we are observing are traveling at 40,000 miles per hour 417 00:24:43,441 --> 00:24:45,067 {\an8}and sometimes faster. 418 00:24:46,944 --> 00:24:50,864 The next observable is instantaneous acceleration, 419 00:24:50,865 --> 00:24:52,574 the sudden change in velocity. 420 00:24:52,575 --> 00:24:56,077 At full speed, the SR-71, known as a Blackbird, 421 00:24:56,078 --> 00:25:00,749 {\an8}requires roughly half the state of Ohio to complete its turn. 422 00:25:00,750 --> 00:25:05,754 {\an8}What we are seeing with UAP are vehicles that can make immediate right-angle turns, 423 00:25:05,755 --> 00:25:09,424 instantaneously accelerating and stopping on a dime 424 00:25:09,425 --> 00:25:13,762 at speeds up to ten times faster than the SR-71. 425 00:25:13,763 --> 00:25:16,181 If you're in a sustained flight, you can get up to seven-and-a-half Gs. 426 00:25:16,182 --> 00:25:21,186 {\an8}It gets physically painful over time to be under that amount of gravity. 427 00:25:21,187 --> 00:25:24,189 {\an8}And that's just going from zero to 200 miles an hour 428 00:25:24,190 --> 00:25:25,857 in about two-and-a-half seconds. 429 00:25:25,858 --> 00:25:28,485 Now, think of going zero to thousands of miles an hour 430 00:25:28,486 --> 00:25:32,030 in less than a second, what the force would be on your body. 431 00:25:32,031 --> 00:25:34,658 The human body can only take so much before the internal organs start 432 00:25:34,659 --> 00:25:39,329 to separate themselves from everything they're hooked to, which is usually bad. 433 00:25:39,330 --> 00:25:44,251 {\an8}Even if it was a drone, it would rip the drone, the unmanned vehicle apart. 434 00:25:44,252 --> 00:25:47,712 The next observable is low observability. 435 00:25:47,713 --> 00:25:49,798 All modern technology have a signature. 436 00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:55,512 For example, most aircraft leave visible contrails as they fly. 437 00:25:55,513 --> 00:25:59,182 We usually hear a sonic boom associated with the sound barrier being broken. 438 00:25:59,183 --> 00:26:03,061 UAP, however, leave almost no observable signatures. 439 00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:08,233 {\an8}Our airplanes actually throw out exhaust behind it and thrust behind it 440 00:26:08,234 --> 00:26:09,860 to push it forward. 441 00:26:10,987 --> 00:26:13,446 Whatever these things are, they're not doing that. 442 00:26:13,447 --> 00:26:17,243 There is no exhaust, no particles coming off of 'em that we can see. 443 00:26:19,245 --> 00:26:23,081 The next observable is transmedium travel. 444 00:26:23,082 --> 00:26:27,294 UAP have been observed operating in space, in air and underwater, 445 00:26:27,295 --> 00:26:30,672 and they're moving seamlessly through each of these environments 446 00:26:30,673 --> 00:26:35,176 without any normal signature and without compromising performance. 447 00:26:35,177 --> 00:26:39,472 {\an8}We've observed a transmedium capability of these phenomenon 448 00:26:39,473 --> 00:26:43,519 {\an8}to move from space to the atmosphere to the ocean. 449 00:26:44,312 --> 00:26:46,146 {\an8}In the Aguadilla, Puerto Rico case, 450 00:26:46,147 --> 00:26:50,525 {\an8}a DHS helicopter caught the spherical object flying. 451 00:26:50,526 --> 00:26:53,028 {\an8}It entered the water and exited the water, 452 00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:56,448 so transmedium without losing any velocity. 453 00:26:56,449 --> 00:27:01,286 {\an8}It goes into the ocean and makes no splash or wake at 74 miles per hour. 454 00:27:01,287 --> 00:27:05,540 I calculated how much force you would require just to propel a basketball 455 00:27:05,541 --> 00:27:07,167 under the water at 74 miles per hour, 456 00:27:07,168 --> 00:27:09,210 and you'd need a BE-7 rocket motor, 457 00:27:09,211 --> 00:27:12,839 or two Learjet engines that would churn the water up like crazy. 458 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,175 So this is a technology that's frictionless. 459 00:27:15,176 --> 00:27:17,677 The next observable is anti-gravity. 460 00:27:17,678 --> 00:27:21,181 UAP seemed to be defying the natural effects of earth's gravity 461 00:27:21,182 --> 00:27:23,808 without any obvious means of doing so. 462 00:27:23,809 --> 00:27:26,436 No signs of propulsion or lift, meaning no wings, 463 00:27:26,437 --> 00:27:29,481 no control surfaces or ability to maneuver. 464 00:27:29,482 --> 00:27:31,107 {\an8}In 2014 to 2015, 465 00:27:31,108 --> 00:27:35,820 {\an8}we were operating off the coast of Virginia Beach, off the eastern seaboard. 466 00:27:35,821 --> 00:27:39,491 It was during this time that we upgraded our radar from the APG-73 467 00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:41,076 to the APG-79 radar, 468 00:27:41,077 --> 00:27:46,414 and this allowed us to essentially see more objects we weren't expecting to see. 469 00:27:46,415 --> 00:27:49,084 And there's a particular case of one of these objects 470 00:27:49,085 --> 00:27:51,586 maintaining a complete stationary position 471 00:27:51,587 --> 00:27:55,632 inside of 120 knot winds, essentially inside of a hurricane. 472 00:27:55,633 --> 00:27:57,342 {\an8} They're all going against the wind. 473 00:27:57,343 --> 00:27:59,719 {\an8}The wind's 120 knots from the west. 474 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,180 {\an8}Look at that thing! It's rotating. 475 00:28:02,181 --> 00:28:05,767 It just seems like they're not affected by the environment the way we are. 476 00:28:05,768 --> 00:28:08,186 They were tracking 'em from above 80,000 feet. 477 00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:10,438 So for those that don't know, above 80,000, 478 00:28:10,439 --> 00:28:12,607 that's where you start getting into space. 479 00:28:12,608 --> 00:28:13,817 So these things were coming down. 480 00:28:13,818 --> 00:28:16,444 {\an8}They would sit for three hours and they'd go back up, 481 00:28:16,445 --> 00:28:17,654 {\an8}which to my knowledge, 482 00:28:17,655 --> 00:28:21,366 {\an8}we don't have anything that has the capabilities 483 00:28:21,367 --> 00:28:24,619 {\an8}as far as the energy required to come down, 484 00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:26,371 {\an8}hangout for three hours and go up. 485 00:28:26,372 --> 00:28:30,625 {\an8}The observed UAP capability exceeds that 486 00:28:30,626 --> 00:28:34,337 {\an8}of even the most advanced, uh, human technologies 487 00:28:34,338 --> 00:28:36,673 that are developed in classified black programs. 488 00:28:36,674 --> 00:28:40,970 From our exposure, I mean, there's nothing we have that comes close. 489 00:28:42,513 --> 00:28:44,681 There's actually a six observable, 490 00:28:44,682 --> 00:28:50,229 which is not a flight characteristic, that is biological effects. 491 00:28:51,188 --> 00:28:54,817 {\an8} I got started working on this actually in this office. 492 00:28:55,901 --> 00:28:57,360 {\an8}There was a knock at the door, 493 00:28:57,361 --> 00:28:59,696 {\an8}and two individuals who represented themselves 494 00:28:59,697 --> 00:29:04,200 {\an8}as being with the CIA and an aerospace company came to me and asked for my help. 495 00:29:04,201 --> 00:29:09,831 {\an8}They had, uh, data of military personnel, intelligence officials 496 00:29:09,832 --> 00:29:12,417 and others associated with the Department of Defense 497 00:29:12,418 --> 00:29:15,420 who had direct interactions with UAP. 498 00:29:15,421 --> 00:29:20,008 And because of that direct interaction suffered some kind of medical harm. 499 00:29:20,009 --> 00:29:23,470 They wanted my help to look at the so-called inflammatory 500 00:29:23,471 --> 00:29:26,055 secondary events that might be measured in the blood, 501 00:29:26,056 --> 00:29:30,727 anything from the horrific burns that I've seen on some of the individuals 502 00:29:30,728 --> 00:29:33,938 that leads to secondary problems with autoimmune diseases 503 00:29:33,939 --> 00:29:35,565 and sclerosis, et cetera, 504 00:29:35,566 --> 00:29:39,194 and then the internal scarring that I've seen on some individuals. 505 00:29:39,195 --> 00:29:42,906 These people had scarring inside of their bodies and inside of their brains. 506 00:29:42,907 --> 00:29:44,032 And you have to think about it. 507 00:29:44,033 --> 00:29:47,243 You know, if you get too close to the back end of a jet engine, 508 00:29:47,244 --> 00:29:50,246 or for instance, if you get too close to the transformer system 509 00:29:50,247 --> 00:29:54,584 that's just powering your neighborhood, there's energy coming out of those things. 510 00:29:54,585 --> 00:29:56,836 I mean, those are just human technologies. 511 00:29:56,837 --> 00:30:00,465 Now imagine you've got something which is a more advanced technology, 512 00:30:00,466 --> 00:30:05,428 which is generating some kind of field that allows these objects to move, 513 00:30:05,429 --> 00:30:08,641 if you get too close to it, you are gonna get harmed. 514 00:30:10,142 --> 00:30:13,478 {\an8}I spent ten years as an intelligence officer for the Navy. 515 00:30:13,479 --> 00:30:16,607 {\an8}And before that, six years as Air Force intelligence. 516 00:30:17,900 --> 00:30:21,069 And I spent time on the UAP task force. 517 00:30:21,070 --> 00:30:23,279 I'm one of the intelligence officials 518 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,493 that has experienced biological effects of encountering UAP. 519 00:30:28,494 --> 00:30:31,120 Since my first encounter, 520 00:30:31,121 --> 00:30:35,876 I've observed other craft, orbs, 521 00:30:36,043 --> 00:30:38,586 we'll call it exotic energy fields. 522 00:30:38,587 --> 00:30:43,258 Unfortunately, um, those of us who have investigated it, 523 00:30:43,259 --> 00:30:47,637 we become part of the investigation or investigated by our colleagues. 524 00:30:47,638 --> 00:30:52,517 The population had about a 25% mortality rate 525 00:30:52,518 --> 00:30:55,395 within seven years of having an interaction. 526 00:30:55,396 --> 00:30:59,732 Probably important that the public understands 527 00:30:59,733 --> 00:31:04,320 that this is more than just an aerial phenomenon. 528 00:31:04,321 --> 00:31:08,449 {\an8}When you have an anecdote that is accompanied by medical data, 529 00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:12,996 {\an8}that's something that I can hand to another scientist, another doctor and say, 530 00:31:12,997 --> 00:31:14,789 {\an8}"Here it is. You explain it." 531 00:31:14,790 --> 00:31:19,587 We can argue about what the conclusion is, but we can't argue that the data is real. 532 00:31:24,925 --> 00:31:26,759 {\an8} The deputy director of Naval Intelligence, 533 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,430 who understood the national security concerns of UAP, 534 00:31:30,431 --> 00:31:34,392 directed me to start quietly building out a whole government interagency effort 535 00:31:34,393 --> 00:31:36,520 that ultimately became the UAP task force. 536 00:31:37,354 --> 00:31:40,440 This new program was much bigger than AATIP ever was. 537 00:31:40,441 --> 00:31:44,277 Our mission was to detect, analyze and catalog UAPs 538 00:31:44,278 --> 00:31:47,530 that pose a threat to US national security. 539 00:31:47,531 --> 00:31:52,910 I had handpicked members from all 16 agencies of the intelligence community. 540 00:31:52,911 --> 00:31:55,913 {\an8}The Secretary of Defense formally announced the UAP task force 541 00:31:55,914 --> 00:31:59,208 {\an8}in August 2020, naming me the first director. 542 00:31:59,209 --> 00:32:02,212 Everyone in authority was paying attention to this topic. 543 00:32:03,130 --> 00:32:09,385 One distinctive moment for me was briefing then Secretary of Treasury, Steve Mnuchin. 544 00:32:09,386 --> 00:32:12,347 I got through my briefing. And at the end of the brief, 545 00:32:12,348 --> 00:32:14,974 he sat back in his chair and he said, "You know, Jay, 546 00:32:14,975 --> 00:32:17,560 you may wonder why I asked for this briefing." 547 00:32:17,561 --> 00:32:22,899 He said, "What are the economic impacts of the president going to the microphone 548 00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:25,693 and telling the world we're not alone?" 549 00:32:25,694 --> 00:32:30,448 I have to think about those kinds of impacts in order to prepare 550 00:32:30,449 --> 00:32:33,535 if the president were to make that move. 551 00:32:34,745 --> 00:32:36,704 Meanwhile, Chris Mellon and I 552 00:32:36,705 --> 00:32:39,666 were working with the Senate behind the scenes 553 00:32:39,667 --> 00:32:45,296 to craft UAP legislation that was then taken by Marco Rubio 554 00:32:45,297 --> 00:32:48,967 and pushed into the coronavirus relief bill. 555 00:32:49,551 --> 00:32:53,596 When President Trump signed this legislation into law, 556 00:32:53,597 --> 00:32:58,226 it then forced the Pentagon and the UAP task force to provide 557 00:32:58,227 --> 00:33:02,898 written reports to Congress, both classified and unclassified. 558 00:33:05,234 --> 00:33:09,529 {\an8}The long-awaited Pentagon report on UFOs has finally been released. 559 00:33:09,530 --> 00:33:11,989 {\an8}The Director of National Intelligence just a few days ago 560 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:14,742 {\an8}released a new report on 144 sightings. 561 00:33:14,743 --> 00:33:16,911 When we talk about sightings, we're talking about objects 562 00:33:16,912 --> 00:33:19,956 that have been seen by Navy or Air Force pilots 563 00:33:19,957 --> 00:33:22,250 or have been picked up by satellite imagery. 564 00:33:22,251 --> 00:33:25,128 Frankly, there are a lot more sightings than have been made public. 565 00:33:25,129 --> 00:33:27,463 {\an8} The report clarifies that most incidents 566 00:33:27,464 --> 00:33:29,215 {\an8}over the past two decades 567 00:33:29,216 --> 00:33:35,263 {\an8}are not from the US military or other advanced US government technology. 568 00:33:35,264 --> 00:33:39,642 {\an8}So the issue now is why are they here, where are they coming from 569 00:33:39,643 --> 00:33:43,771 and what is the technology behind these devices that we're observing? 570 00:33:43,772 --> 00:33:46,607 As noisy as that first unclassified report was, 571 00:33:46,608 --> 00:33:48,317 it barely scratched the surface. 572 00:33:48,318 --> 00:33:51,946 The few elected officials that got to read the classified version of the report, 573 00:33:51,947 --> 00:33:55,783 it opened their eyes to the national security concerns surrounding this topic. 574 00:33:55,784 --> 00:34:00,329 {\an8}There's enough obvious evidence here that we need to take this seriously, 575 00:34:00,330 --> 00:34:01,581 {\an8}not downplay it. 576 00:34:01,582 --> 00:34:04,250 {\an8}I don't believe they're coming from foreign adversaries. 577 00:34:04,251 --> 00:34:08,004 {\an8}Uh, if they were, that would suggest that they have a technology 578 00:34:08,005 --> 00:34:11,215 {\an8}which is in a whole different sphere than anything we understand. 579 00:34:11,216 --> 00:34:16,554 {\an8}Uh, frankly, China and Russia aren't there and neither are we by the way. 580 00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:18,389 {\an8}Trillions of galaxies out there, 581 00:34:18,390 --> 00:34:21,101 {\an8}so who knows what might've developed somewhere else? 582 00:34:25,773 --> 00:34:31,778 {\an8}What we believe is that there are unexplained aerial phenomena 583 00:34:31,779 --> 00:34:35,656 {\an8}that have been cited and reported by pilots, 584 00:34:35,657 --> 00:34:37,366 Navy and Air Force, 585 00:34:37,367 --> 00:34:42,663 that these phenomena have in some cases had an impact on our training ranges, 586 00:34:42,664 --> 00:34:48,461 on our pilot's ability to fly, train, operate and stay ready. 587 00:34:48,462 --> 00:34:55,051 Um, that alone makes it a national security issue worth looking at. 588 00:34:55,052 --> 00:34:57,053 We don't know. 589 00:34:57,054 --> 00:35:00,265 We don't have the answers about what these phenomena are. 590 00:35:06,522 --> 00:35:08,272 As we continued to make progress, 591 00:35:08,273 --> 00:35:14,071 a very powerful disinformation campaign began. 592 00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:20,744 This effort was to destroy my reputation and credibility, full stop. 593 00:35:23,288 --> 00:35:25,248 {\an8} When the government started running 594 00:35:25,249 --> 00:35:27,834 {\an8}this despicable disinformation campaign against Lue, 595 00:35:27,835 --> 00:35:31,629 {\an8}I actually received an email one day from the Pentagon Public Affairs office 596 00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:34,215 with this narrative that they were providing back to the media 597 00:35:34,216 --> 00:35:36,217 that was completely false. 598 00:35:36,218 --> 00:35:38,886 I replied all to that email and said, "This is wrong," 599 00:35:38,887 --> 00:35:40,305 and they ran with it anyway. 600 00:35:50,274 --> 00:35:54,235 They actually told the American people that Lue Elizondo did not work there, 601 00:35:54,236 --> 00:35:56,154 and that was an outright lie. 602 00:35:57,990 --> 00:36:00,658 My family and I suffered greatly for it. 603 00:36:00,659 --> 00:36:04,121 All you have in your life is really your credibility and your word. 604 00:36:05,581 --> 00:36:06,832 It's heartbreaking. 605 00:36:10,627 --> 00:36:14,547 {\an8}They don't want anybody that's based on facts being involved in this, 606 00:36:14,548 --> 00:36:15,882 {\an8}so what do they do? 607 00:36:15,883 --> 00:36:20,595 {\an8}They go online and try to belittle Elizondo and me and anybody else 608 00:36:20,596 --> 00:36:23,140 {\an8}that's trying to do it in a scientific way. 609 00:36:26,935 --> 00:36:28,144 As hard as it was, 610 00:36:28,145 --> 00:36:30,981 I was still being privately encouraged by former members of AATIP 611 00:36:31,106 --> 00:36:32,356 to continue the fight, 612 00:36:32,357 --> 00:36:35,985 and so that gave me the motivation to continue to press forward, 613 00:36:35,986 --> 00:36:38,863 and the fire that we started continued to spread. 614 00:36:38,864 --> 00:36:41,115 After decades of public denial, 615 00:36:41,116 --> 00:36:44,827 the Pentagon now admits there's something out there, 616 00:36:44,828 --> 00:36:47,705 and the US Senate wants to know what it is. 617 00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:52,668 UFOs, Unidentified Flying Objects, are real? 618 00:36:52,669 --> 00:36:55,046 The government has already stated for the record that they're real. 619 00:36:55,047 --> 00:36:57,965 I'm not telling you that, the US government is telling you that. 620 00:36:57,966 --> 00:37:02,303 There's footage and records of objects in the skies 621 00:37:02,304 --> 00:37:05,181 that we don't know exactly what they are. 622 00:37:05,182 --> 00:37:08,851 What's your viewpoint on what these objects, 623 00:37:08,852 --> 00:37:12,439 uh, that seem to defy all laws of physics are? 624 00:37:14,066 --> 00:37:18,444 Well, first of all, that's a legitimate question now. 625 00:37:18,445 --> 00:37:20,613 There are lots of mysteries out there. 626 00:37:20,614 --> 00:37:24,283 It should keep us humble. There's a lot of stuff we don't know. 627 00:37:24,284 --> 00:37:25,952 {\an8}There've been sightings all over the world. 628 00:37:25,953 --> 00:37:29,246 {\an8}And when we talk about sightings, the other thing I will tell you is 629 00:37:29,247 --> 00:37:35,252 {\an8}it's not just a pilot or just a satellite or some, um, intelligence collection. 630 00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:39,340 {\an8}Usually we have multiple sensors that are picking up these things. 631 00:37:39,341 --> 00:37:42,426 {\an8}There's always the question of is there something else 632 00:37:42,427 --> 00:37:45,846 {\an8}that we simply do not understand that might come extra-terrestrially? 633 00:37:45,847 --> 00:37:47,515 {\an8}I think it's a bit presumptuous, 634 00:37:47,516 --> 00:37:52,436 {\an8}if not arrogant for us to believe that there's no other form of life anywhere 635 00:37:52,437 --> 00:37:54,397 in the entire universe. 636 00:37:54,398 --> 00:37:56,649 I've seen some of those videos from Navy pilots, 637 00:37:56,650 --> 00:37:59,819 and I must tell you that they are quite eyebrow-raising, 638 00:37:59,820 --> 00:38:04,490 and, um, might in fact be some type of phenomenon 639 00:38:04,491 --> 00:38:10,079 that is the result of something that, um, we don't yet understand, 640 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:15,334 and that could involve some type of activity 641 00:38:15,335 --> 00:38:18,547 {\an8}that some might say constitutes a different form of life. 642 00:38:22,050 --> 00:38:27,096 We don't know if the non-human intelligence that is already here 643 00:38:27,097 --> 00:38:29,348 is exclusively extraterrestrial 644 00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:32,893 or perhaps some sort of cryptoterrestrial. 645 00:38:32,894 --> 00:38:36,939 Some people who are into the physics of time travel think 646 00:38:36,940 --> 00:38:39,025 well, maybe they're time travelers. 647 00:38:39,026 --> 00:38:41,485 Even some sort of proto-human 648 00:38:41,486 --> 00:38:45,114 that somehow branched off from the human family tree long ago 649 00:38:45,115 --> 00:38:47,491 and is as natural to this planet as we are. 650 00:38:47,492 --> 00:38:50,786 Some ancient civilization that's sequestered away 651 00:38:50,787 --> 00:38:53,623 somewhere on the Earth or on the seabed. 652 00:38:54,791 --> 00:38:59,670 We've heard testimonials from pilots as well as civilians 653 00:38:59,671 --> 00:39:04,759 from different countries having seen things come from the ocean, 654 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,305 unexplained things, and these aren't missiles, they aren't rockets, 655 00:39:09,306 --> 00:39:11,849 they aren't aircraft or submarines. 656 00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:13,601 These are other-worldly things 657 00:39:13,602 --> 00:39:17,063 that are performing maneuvers that haven't been seen. 658 00:39:17,064 --> 00:39:21,442 In fact, we have tracked UAP underwater going at speeds 659 00:39:21,443 --> 00:39:24,278 in excess of several hundred miles an hour, 660 00:39:24,279 --> 00:39:26,906 but without the associated signatures. 661 00:39:26,907 --> 00:39:29,492 {\an8}I retired as the oceanographer of the Navy, 662 00:39:29,493 --> 00:39:33,580 {\an8}being the senior advisor for the Chief of Naval Operations in the Pentagon. 663 00:39:34,414 --> 00:39:37,416 {\an8}But our knowledge of the ocean's rather limited. 664 00:39:37,417 --> 00:39:40,837 {\an8}We haven't even explored 80% of the ocean volume. 665 00:39:42,422 --> 00:39:46,509 {\an8}We have mapped the surface of Mars and the moon to a higher resolution 666 00:39:46,510 --> 00:39:47,968 than the Earth's sea floor. 667 00:39:47,969 --> 00:39:53,015 Is it possible that whatever we're seeing isn't from out there, 668 00:39:53,016 --> 00:39:55,392 it's from down there? 669 00:39:55,393 --> 00:40:00,856 Are we looking at an entire world underneath the water? 670 00:40:00,857 --> 00:40:04,860 {\an8}I think it's very safe to say that with so much of the ocean volume unexplored 671 00:40:04,861 --> 00:40:10,199 {\an8}and the sea floor unmapped that if any intelligence were to arrive here 672 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,954 and not want to be detected, it would stay in the ocean. 673 00:40:14,955 --> 00:40:20,918 All these possibilities could come with different intentions and motivations. 674 00:40:20,919 --> 00:40:27,007 Whoever it is, they're here and they're operating here, 675 00:40:27,008 --> 00:40:29,052 and they have been operating here for a long time. 676 00:40:39,187 --> 00:40:44,775 In 2022, we started pushing Congress hard to hold public UAP hearings, 677 00:40:44,776 --> 00:40:47,571 and that's when disclosures started to get to the next level. 678 00:40:50,907 --> 00:40:56,162 {\an8}House panel is holding a public hearing on mysterious flying objects. 679 00:40:56,163 --> 00:40:58,247 {\an8}The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee describes this 680 00:40:58,248 --> 00:41:00,791 {\an8}as one of the great mysteries of our time, 681 00:41:00,792 --> 00:41:04,795 {\an8}and it's a big day for all of these people who have spent so many years 682 00:41:04,796 --> 00:41:07,381 {\an8}pushing for more transparency into this topic. 683 00:41:07,382 --> 00:41:09,842 {\an8}Out of everything in Congress and everything happening 684 00:41:09,843 --> 00:41:11,927 {\an8}currently in our country and world right now, 685 00:41:11,928 --> 00:41:17,391 {\an8}the UAP topic has been one of the only topics 686 00:41:17,392 --> 00:41:19,643 that's received this level of bipartisan support. 687 00:41:19,644 --> 00:41:22,188 It's just not an issue, at least as of yet, in this country 688 00:41:22,189 --> 00:41:25,941 that lends itself to some sort of partisan or ideological divide. 689 00:41:25,942 --> 00:41:29,738 {\an8}Democrats and Republicans just want to understand what's going on. 690 00:41:31,323 --> 00:41:33,490 This hearing and oversight work 691 00:41:33,491 --> 00:41:36,035 has a simple idea at its core. 692 00:41:36,036 --> 00:41:40,998 {\an8}Unidentified aerial phenomena are a potential national security threat, 693 00:41:40,999 --> 00:41:43,042 {\an8}and they need to be treated that way. 694 00:41:43,043 --> 00:41:47,379 {\an8}UAPs are unexplained. It's true, but they are real. 695 00:41:47,380 --> 00:41:49,006 {\an8}They need to be investigated, 696 00:41:49,007 --> 00:41:51,884 {\an8}and many threats they pose need to be mitigated. 697 00:41:51,885 --> 00:41:54,178 {\an8}There is something there measurable by multiple instruments, 698 00:41:54,179 --> 00:41:57,514 {\an8}and yet it seems to move in directions that are inconsistent 699 00:41:57,515 --> 00:42:01,101 {\an8}with what we know of physics or science, more broadly. 700 00:42:01,102 --> 00:42:05,439 {\an8}There are a number of events in which we do not have an explanation, 701 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,483 {\an8}in which there are flight characteristics 702 00:42:07,484 --> 00:42:11,195 {\an8}or signature management, um, that we can't explain. 703 00:42:11,196 --> 00:42:13,030 {\an8}We know that our service members 704 00:42:13,031 --> 00:42:17,034 {\an8}have encountered unidentified aerial phenomenon. 705 00:42:17,035 --> 00:42:21,538 {\an8}And because UAPs pose potential flight safety and general security risk, 706 00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:25,209 {\an8}we are committed to a focused effort to determine their origins. 707 00:42:25,210 --> 00:42:26,502 {\an8}The capabilities, systems, 708 00:42:26,503 --> 00:42:31,006 {\an8}processes and sources we use to observe, record, study or analyze these phenomena 709 00:42:31,007 --> 00:42:33,509 {\an8}need to be classified at appropriate levels. 710 00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:38,055 {\an8}We do not want, we do not want potential adversaries to know 711 00:42:38,056 --> 00:42:40,391 exactly what we're able to see or understand 712 00:42:40,392 --> 00:42:42,768 or how we come to the conclusions we make. 713 00:42:42,769 --> 00:42:46,647 Therefore, public disclosures must be carefully considered 714 00:42:46,648 --> 00:42:48,441 on a case-by-case basis. 715 00:42:48,942 --> 00:42:53,612 The hearing was a historic bipartisan effort towards transparency, 716 00:42:53,613 --> 00:42:56,282 but it left both the American public and Congress 717 00:42:56,283 --> 00:42:58,284 with more questions than answers. 718 00:42:58,285 --> 00:42:59,994 While I was making progress, 719 00:42:59,995 --> 00:43:04,581 I learned that the Legacy Program was quietly behind the scenes pushing back, 720 00:43:04,582 --> 00:43:06,542 and they were creating bureaucratic hurdles. 721 00:43:06,543 --> 00:43:08,294 They were somehow able to block the funding 722 00:43:08,295 --> 00:43:10,296 that was approved for the UAP task force. 723 00:43:10,297 --> 00:43:12,756 I can't describe it any other way than I was just angry. 724 00:43:12,757 --> 00:43:17,136 There's this hidden hand that is blocking all of these actions and things I'm doing. 725 00:43:17,137 --> 00:43:20,222 A subversive government overriding the real government. 726 00:43:20,223 --> 00:43:23,559 It's so bad that we really aren't going to make progress 727 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,395 until someone shines the light on them. 728 00:43:27,105 --> 00:43:29,983 Then the staff and the members start to dig in more. 729 00:43:31,151 --> 00:43:33,652 They begin to understand the landscape. 730 00:43:33,653 --> 00:43:36,780 They begin to understand how much secrecy there is, 731 00:43:36,781 --> 00:43:39,701 how much resistance there is to coming clean on this. 732 00:43:42,871 --> 00:43:46,790 As Congress began hearing from whistleblowers in classified settings, 733 00:43:46,791 --> 00:43:50,003 they came to the realization of the existence of the Legacy Program. 734 00:43:54,507 --> 00:43:56,800 The main players in the Legacy Program 735 00:43:56,801 --> 00:44:00,179 have long been the Central Intelligence Agency, 736 00:44:00,180 --> 00:44:02,306 the United States Air Force, 737 00:44:02,307 --> 00:44:06,977 {\an8}the Department of Energy, and major defense contractors. 738 00:44:06,978 --> 00:44:11,107 The Central Intelligence Agency is responsible for the oversight 739 00:44:11,274 --> 00:44:13,067 of the overall effort. 740 00:44:13,068 --> 00:44:16,528 You might think of them as a little bit as a headquarters element. 741 00:44:16,529 --> 00:44:19,907 The Deputy Director of Science and Technology at the CIA 742 00:44:19,908 --> 00:44:23,786 controls the UAP crash retrieval portfolio. 743 00:44:23,787 --> 00:44:27,831 The United States Air Force is responsible for field operations. 744 00:44:27,832 --> 00:44:32,503 These are the folks that are responsible for deploying within moment's notice 745 00:44:32,504 --> 00:44:38,093 anywhere in the world to go secure and retrieve crashed UAP. 746 00:44:40,387 --> 00:44:46,100 {\an8}We have intelligence teams quickly notified if there's some UAP event 747 00:44:46,101 --> 00:44:50,437 that might involve a crashed vehicle or pieces from a crashed vehicle. 748 00:44:50,438 --> 00:44:53,273 The United States Air Force uses their own special forces, 749 00:44:53,274 --> 00:44:56,193 but they also coordinate with other special forces 750 00:44:56,194 --> 00:44:57,987 in other branches of US military. 751 00:44:59,197 --> 00:45:03,617 They're so well organized that they basically can get to a site, 752 00:45:03,618 --> 00:45:08,414 gather material, whatever it is, and once it's in their possession, 753 00:45:08,415 --> 00:45:12,543 they have the authority to classify it, 754 00:45:12,544 --> 00:45:16,380 and therefore make any information about it unavailable to the public, 755 00:45:16,381 --> 00:45:20,135 even admission that it exists unavailable to the public. 756 00:45:21,010 --> 00:45:23,303 The defense contractors, 757 00:45:23,304 --> 00:45:27,349 they're responsible for the exploitation and the reverse engineering 758 00:45:27,350 --> 00:45:28,934 and analysis of the materials. 759 00:45:28,935 --> 00:45:32,146 They provide technical and advisory services 760 00:45:32,147 --> 00:45:33,856 that the government doesn't have. 761 00:45:33,857 --> 00:45:37,234 And last but not least is the Department of Energy. 762 00:45:37,235 --> 00:45:41,947 They are the world's experts in anything that is related to either atomic 763 00:45:41,948 --> 00:45:45,826 or nuclear technology or anything that gives off radiation. 764 00:45:45,827 --> 00:45:48,745 But there's another advantage because the Department of Energy 765 00:45:48,746 --> 00:45:51,915 has its own security classification system 766 00:45:51,916 --> 00:45:56,378 well outside the overview and oversight, if you will, 767 00:45:56,379 --> 00:46:00,757 of traditional classification systems like the Department of Defense 768 00:46:00,758 --> 00:46:02,593 or the intelligence community. 769 00:46:02,594 --> 00:46:07,931 They've used the security and classification language 770 00:46:07,932 --> 00:46:13,188 in the Atomic Energy Act to hide the Legacy crash retrieval program. 771 00:46:16,232 --> 00:46:20,027 {\an8}The intelligence officials that have briefed on these 772 00:46:20,028 --> 00:46:24,573 {\an8}crash retrievals have talked about a number of different species 773 00:46:24,574 --> 00:46:27,409 {\an8}having been observed to be associated with the crash. 774 00:46:27,410 --> 00:46:30,497 {\an8}Bodies recovered are not all of the same type. 775 00:46:32,207 --> 00:46:36,126 {\an8}I'm aware of at least two advanced non-human species, 776 00:46:36,127 --> 00:46:40,089 {\an8}one of which made contact with the Legacy crash retrieval program. 777 00:46:40,882 --> 00:46:44,968 The other of which, the bodies were recovered by the crash retrieval program 778 00:46:44,969 --> 00:46:46,762 in various crashes. 779 00:46:46,763 --> 00:46:48,764 One of the questions is often raised, 780 00:46:48,765 --> 00:46:51,350 if they're so advanced, why are there crashes? 781 00:46:51,351 --> 00:46:53,852 But of course, I mean, you know, 782 00:46:53,853 --> 00:46:56,647 cars are well made and people drive them carefully, 783 00:46:56,648 --> 00:46:59,942 but there are crashes. It can happen. 784 00:46:59,943 --> 00:47:04,863 Another option that's being considered is that maybe some of these 785 00:47:04,864 --> 00:47:07,574 were not "really crashes," 786 00:47:07,575 --> 00:47:12,037 but that they were left here for us to examine 787 00:47:12,038 --> 00:47:15,958 in order to advance our technology forward at a faster pace. 788 00:47:15,959 --> 00:47:21,046 So in that sense, they can be seen as gifts from a more intelligent species. 789 00:47:21,047 --> 00:47:24,508 One of the questions that would then be raised would be, well, 790 00:47:24,509 --> 00:47:29,555 are gifts distributed differently among different nations 791 00:47:29,556 --> 00:47:33,350 or more or less homogeneously 792 00:47:33,351 --> 00:47:37,896 to see who survives and makes progress the fastest? 793 00:47:37,897 --> 00:47:41,943 It could be a giant IQ test, you might say. 794 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,490 As we brought whistleblowers to Congress, 795 00:47:48,491 --> 00:47:54,079 we learned that the Legacy Program was involved in a long running secret war 796 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,333 with other nations to collect and reverse engineer 797 00:47:58,334 --> 00:48:02,213 vehicles not made by humans. 798 00:48:06,092 --> 00:48:08,969 In this secret theater of war, 799 00:48:08,970 --> 00:48:15,476 the US has both allies and adversaries in a winner takes all scenario. 800 00:48:17,103 --> 00:48:21,273 This is a very complicated geopolitical landscape, 801 00:48:21,274 --> 00:48:26,154 where alliances and allegiances shift like sand in the desert. 802 00:48:27,530 --> 00:48:32,242 {\an8}We would certainly prefer a situation where the retrieval 803 00:48:32,243 --> 00:48:37,414 {\an8}is either in international waters or some other uncontested location 804 00:48:37,415 --> 00:48:39,458 or maybe in an allied country, 805 00:48:39,459 --> 00:48:43,962 but every country in the world would do everything in their power 806 00:48:43,963 --> 00:48:47,341 to try to retrieve an exquisite piece of technology. 807 00:48:47,342 --> 00:48:50,427 The first country that cracks the code on this technology 808 00:48:50,428 --> 00:48:52,304 will be the leader for years to come. 809 00:48:52,305 --> 00:48:53,972 This is similar to the Manhattan Project. 810 00:48:53,973 --> 00:48:55,265 We developed the atomic weapon. 811 00:48:55,266 --> 00:48:58,853 We won the war, and it made us a superpower for almost a century now. 812 00:49:00,271 --> 00:49:02,356 This is the atomic weapon on steroids. 813 00:49:02,357 --> 00:49:07,444 Some of the craft observed could be the result of say our Legacy Program, 814 00:49:07,445 --> 00:49:11,406 or on the other hand, it might be the result of advancements 815 00:49:11,407 --> 00:49:13,408 made by potential adversaries. 816 00:49:13,409 --> 00:49:18,664 {\an8}We have seen highly credible US government intelligence 817 00:49:18,665 --> 00:49:23,752 on the Soviet recovery of a crashed UAP in 1989. 818 00:49:23,753 --> 00:49:28,674 They recovered a Tic-Tac shaped UAP that was twice as big as the Tic Tac 819 00:49:28,675 --> 00:49:32,052 that was encountered by the USS Nimitz carrier strike group, 820 00:49:32,053 --> 00:49:37,224 and they did recover four bodies of humanoid aliens. 821 00:49:37,225 --> 00:49:41,311 The Soviet scientists took apart the recovered craft 822 00:49:41,312 --> 00:49:47,150 and discovered a very advanced directed energy weapon. 823 00:49:47,151 --> 00:49:49,361 China is at the top of everybody's list 824 00:49:49,362 --> 00:49:51,947 of concern right now in the Defense Department. 825 00:49:51,948 --> 00:49:55,992 Some of this UAP activity we are seeing here in the United States 826 00:49:55,993 --> 00:49:57,911 may actually be a result 827 00:49:57,912 --> 00:50:01,999 of a Chinese UAP reverse engineering program. 828 00:50:03,126 --> 00:50:07,295 {\an8}If Xi Jinping had access to this, if Putin had access to this, 829 00:50:07,296 --> 00:50:10,215 {\an8}and they thought that we did not have access 830 00:50:10,216 --> 00:50:13,885 {\an8}to similar capabilities than what they did, 831 00:50:13,886 --> 00:50:17,013 do you think for a second that they wouldn't consider 832 00:50:17,014 --> 00:50:19,433 using it to achieve their ends of domination? 833 00:50:19,434 --> 00:50:22,477 And if their approach to it is driven by science 834 00:50:22,478 --> 00:50:25,021 and a desire to match what they think is ours, 835 00:50:25,022 --> 00:50:26,898 we'll wake up one day and realize, 836 00:50:26,899 --> 00:50:29,109 I don't know how they got there, but they got there ahead of us, 837 00:50:29,110 --> 00:50:30,694 and now we're screwed. 838 00:50:30,695 --> 00:50:35,824 This technology can absolutely either revolutionize the way we do things 839 00:50:35,825 --> 00:50:39,286 or completely destroy everything that we know. 840 00:50:39,287 --> 00:50:43,749 It often reminds me of the famous speech by President John F. Kennedy 841 00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:47,627 when we were right at the threshold of entering 842 00:50:47,628 --> 00:50:51,423 into a new era of discovery in space. 843 00:50:51,424 --> 00:50:55,927 {\an8}There is new knowledge to be gained and new rights to be won, 844 00:50:55,928 --> 00:51:01,475 {\an8}and they must be won and used for the progress of all people, 845 00:51:01,476 --> 00:51:06,062 for space science like nuclear science and all technology 846 00:51:06,063 --> 00:51:08,065 has no conscience of its own. 847 00:51:08,941 --> 00:51:13,820 Whether it will become a force for good or ill depends on man. 848 00:51:13,821 --> 00:51:20,452 And only if the United States occupies a position of preeminence 849 00:51:20,453 --> 00:51:27,250 can we help decide whether this new ocean will be a sea of peace 850 00:51:27,251 --> 00:51:30,213 or a new terrifying theater of war. 851 00:51:31,756 --> 00:51:36,301 {\an8}Some of this is so secret, there have been very, very few people 852 00:51:36,302 --> 00:51:40,473 {\an8}in our entire government that have been allowed or provided access to it. 853 00:51:43,017 --> 00:51:46,937 Some presidents have been briefed on the basic facts about the situation, 854 00:51:46,938 --> 00:51:49,564 but they are not provided with all the details. 855 00:51:49,565 --> 00:51:51,358 I think there's this assumption that presidents 856 00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:53,819 can walk in the Oval Office on day one and say, 857 00:51:53,820 --> 00:51:55,987 "All right, take me to Roswell. Show me the alien bodies." 858 00:51:55,988 --> 00:51:57,781 {\an8}"I want to see the video, the autopsy. I want to see the whole thing." 859 00:51:57,782 --> 00:51:58,866 {\an8}"Open it up." 860 00:51:58,991 --> 00:52:01,368 {\an8}I think that really is a, um-- 861 00:52:01,369 --> 00:52:06,541 {\an8}A naive understanding of how our government works. 862 00:52:08,376 --> 00:52:12,921 Even presidents have often been operating on a need-to-know basis. 863 00:52:12,922 --> 00:52:15,215 That's certainly true from historic standpoint. 864 00:52:15,216 --> 00:52:18,176 The rationale, the justification was, 865 00:52:18,177 --> 00:52:20,428 the president shouldn't know about these things because that way 866 00:52:20,429 --> 00:52:22,472 the president always has deniability. 867 00:52:22,473 --> 00:52:25,100 All they need is a nod in this direction or in that direction, 868 00:52:25,101 --> 00:52:27,394 but that begins to ramp out of control. 869 00:52:27,395 --> 00:52:29,855 Frankly, I don't even know if president would know who to ask. 870 00:52:29,856 --> 00:52:31,857 You could go to the director of the CIA, 871 00:52:31,858 --> 00:52:34,693 nowadays, the director of National Intelligence, and ask them, 872 00:52:34,694 --> 00:52:38,321 and even that person may not know because those people rotate, 873 00:52:38,322 --> 00:52:41,783 but people three layers underneath them that are there for 30 years, 874 00:52:41,784 --> 00:52:44,744 to them, it's like, "I've seen these people come and go." 875 00:52:44,745 --> 00:52:46,580 "I have no obligation to tell them it exists." 876 00:52:46,581 --> 00:52:47,873 It just never percolates up. 877 00:52:47,874 --> 00:52:51,167 A lot of people have this assumption that the director of CIA's 878 00:52:51,168 --> 00:52:52,669 right onto everything and knows everything. 879 00:52:52,670 --> 00:52:54,880 The director of CIA is a political appointee. 880 00:52:54,881 --> 00:52:57,632 Quite frankly, they're temporary help, 881 00:52:57,633 --> 00:53:00,594 whereas the Director of Science Technology at CIA, 882 00:53:00,595 --> 00:53:02,470 this is a career intelligence professional, 883 00:53:02,471 --> 00:53:04,431 that's where you're gonna put the program. 884 00:53:04,432 --> 00:53:07,225 I had a few private conversations 885 00:53:07,226 --> 00:53:10,687 with former president George Herbert Walker Bush in 2003 886 00:53:10,688 --> 00:53:13,398 in which he told me that 887 00:53:13,399 --> 00:53:16,651 when he became the CIA director in the Ford administration, 888 00:53:16,652 --> 00:53:21,865 he was not briefed on the Legacy UAP crash retrieval program. 889 00:53:21,866 --> 00:53:24,993 {\an8}But he later found out about it, and he informed me 890 00:53:24,994 --> 00:53:27,746 {\an8}that there were a number of crash retrievals that had taken place 891 00:53:27,747 --> 00:53:30,457 since the mid-1940s. 892 00:53:30,458 --> 00:53:32,542 And he also informed me 893 00:53:32,543 --> 00:53:36,880 {\an8}of a UAP event that took place at Holloman Air Force Base in 1964, 894 00:53:36,881 --> 00:53:40,550 {\an8}where three UAPs approached the Air Force Base. 895 00:53:40,551 --> 00:53:43,011 {\an8}One of them landed on the tarmac. 896 00:53:43,012 --> 00:53:48,141 And a non-human entity deboarded the craft that landed 897 00:53:48,142 --> 00:53:53,897 and interacted with uniformed Air Force and civilian CIA personnel. 898 00:53:53,898 --> 00:53:55,649 And when he asked for more details, 899 00:53:55,650 --> 00:53:58,110 he was told that he did not have a need to know. 900 00:53:59,654 --> 00:54:03,740 {\an8}I served over 30 years as a Army Green Beret 901 00:54:03,741 --> 00:54:08,203 {\an8}in the United States Army. I ended my career as Secretary of Defense. 902 00:54:08,204 --> 00:54:13,291 Some intelligence official decided, I, the acting Secretary of Defense, 903 00:54:13,292 --> 00:54:16,379 did not have a need to know about the UAP topic. 904 00:54:16,963 --> 00:54:19,047 {\an8} Several of my colleagues participated 905 00:54:19,048 --> 00:54:22,342 {\an8}in a panel organized by the George Bush administration 906 00:54:22,343 --> 00:54:25,596 when the administration contemplated going public with disclosure. 907 00:54:25,763 --> 00:54:30,558 {\an8}What it was a group of ten or 12 people from intelligence agencies, 908 00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:33,269 {\an8}from the military, some business people, 909 00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:36,898 and they said, "Here's what's going on." 910 00:54:36,899 --> 00:54:43,279 "The Americans, the Russians, and Chinese all have crash retrieved craft 911 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,115 from some other civilization, 912 00:54:45,116 --> 00:54:48,451 and there's some belief at this point 913 00:54:48,452 --> 00:54:50,578 that maybe this should be revealed to the public, 914 00:54:50,579 --> 00:54:54,374 and we want to know what would the consequences be?" 915 00:54:54,375 --> 00:54:57,043 This is a topic that has a potential to create 916 00:54:57,044 --> 00:55:01,339 serious ontological shock to society. 917 00:55:01,340 --> 00:55:03,049 It's not just national security. 918 00:55:03,050 --> 00:55:09,431 It's psychological, it's sociological, it's theological and it's philosophical. 919 00:55:09,432 --> 00:55:10,974 {\an8}It's undermining in many ways, 920 00:55:10,975 --> 00:55:14,561 {\an8}it's troubling to a lot of people to say that there's something else out there 921 00:55:14,562 --> 00:55:17,313 {\an8}either otherworldly, interdimensional. 922 00:55:17,314 --> 00:55:21,568 I think unfortunately it goes against our traditions, 923 00:55:21,569 --> 00:55:24,404 our cultural traditions, our religious traditions, 924 00:55:24,405 --> 00:55:27,575 and it challenges the beliefs of a lot of people. 925 00:55:28,826 --> 00:55:33,747 The Vatican has irrefutable evidence that non-human intelligence exists. 926 00:55:33,748 --> 00:55:36,291 Although publicly they don't want to acknowledge it, 927 00:55:36,292 --> 00:55:38,794 {\an8}privately, they are very well aware of this. 928 00:55:40,546 --> 00:55:44,424 {\an8}What happens when society realizes everything it's been taught 929 00:55:44,425 --> 00:55:48,970 about the entire history of our species has been wrong 930 00:55:48,971 --> 00:55:53,725 and everybody learns all at once that we're not the top of the food chain? 931 00:55:53,726 --> 00:55:56,102 We're not the alpha predators. 932 00:55:56,103 --> 00:56:00,231 It would be a shakeup for institutions, 933 00:56:00,232 --> 00:56:05,070 it'd be a shakeup for norms, it'd be a shakeup in society. 934 00:56:05,071 --> 00:56:09,866 {\an8}One has to be careful and one has to remember 935 00:56:09,867 --> 00:56:11,242 {\an8}that it's conceivable 936 00:56:11,243 --> 00:56:14,871 {\an8}that there's something that's so disturbing or disruptive 937 00:56:14,872 --> 00:56:18,792 or negative that there is a rationale 938 00:56:18,793 --> 00:56:22,420 for not immediately disclosing all of that information. 939 00:56:22,421 --> 00:56:25,715 We actually came up with a list of 64 areas 940 00:56:25,716 --> 00:56:30,345 that really would be impacted to some significant degree by such a disclosure. 941 00:56:30,346 --> 00:56:34,933 We add up all the numbers, it looks like this would be kind of a bad idea. 942 00:56:34,934 --> 00:56:39,729 Did you go through the secret files, the UFO documents? 943 00:56:39,730 --> 00:56:42,440 Now that you're out of office, you can do anything you want, right? 944 00:56:42,441 --> 00:56:44,526 That's true. Yeah. 945 00:56:44,527 --> 00:56:46,070 Uh, but I'm not telling you. 946 00:56:49,073 --> 00:56:53,034 {\an8}Without a doubt, there's hardly been any program 947 00:56:53,035 --> 00:56:58,164 {\an8}that has been so successfully kept out of the public eye 948 00:56:58,165 --> 00:57:02,085 {\an8}as anything like crash retrievals of unknown craft. 949 00:57:02,086 --> 00:57:06,714 This line of strong control started 950 00:57:06,715 --> 00:57:11,219 {\an8}at least in the Truman administration with the Roswell crash. 951 00:57:11,220 --> 00:57:14,514 {\an8}In AATIP, we learned that the UAP event 952 00:57:14,515 --> 00:57:20,270 at the US Army airfield in Roswell in 1947 did actually occur. 953 00:57:20,271 --> 00:57:23,273 It was described to be a boot-heel shaped UAP 954 00:57:23,274 --> 00:57:26,401 that broke into two pieces on impact. 955 00:57:26,402 --> 00:57:29,404 And observers saw what looked like hieroglyphics 956 00:57:29,405 --> 00:57:30,655 or some type of writing on it. 957 00:57:30,656 --> 00:57:33,575 You might describe 'em as runes or glyphs, hieroglyphs, 958 00:57:33,576 --> 00:57:35,535 that were actually on the craft itself. 959 00:57:35,536 --> 00:57:40,415 And within that crash, non-human bodies were recovered. 960 00:57:40,416 --> 00:57:45,003 Four non-human bodies were recovered from the UAP crash at Roswell. 961 00:57:45,004 --> 00:57:47,922 The recovered material rom the crash, including the bodies, 962 00:57:47,923 --> 00:57:49,591 were all sent up to Wright Field, 963 00:57:49,592 --> 00:57:52,468 which is now called Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. 964 00:57:52,469 --> 00:57:55,347 That's where the US had their best reverse engineers. 965 00:57:56,765 --> 00:58:00,059 Think about the context for everything in 1947. 966 00:58:00,060 --> 00:58:02,770 The US had just won World War II 967 00:58:02,771 --> 00:58:07,234 and was entering into a Cold War with the USSR. 968 00:58:09,111 --> 00:58:15,992 These UAP presented a technology of unfathomable power. 969 00:58:15,993 --> 00:58:20,955 It was imperative that the US be able to reverse engineer this new technology 970 00:58:20,956 --> 00:58:24,125 before anybody else or before anybody else even knew about it. 971 00:58:24,126 --> 00:58:26,878 You can't tell your friends without telling your enemies. 972 00:58:26,879 --> 00:58:31,216 That's a key component to every decision as to what we do or do not release. 973 00:58:31,217 --> 00:58:32,634 Back in 1947, 974 00:58:32,635 --> 00:58:36,387 {\an8}when they looked at this and they realized it was real and they realized 975 00:58:36,388 --> 00:58:38,806 {\an8}they had no idea what it was. 976 00:58:38,807 --> 00:58:42,310 {\an8}This was something you couldn't just talk about because the role 977 00:58:42,311 --> 00:58:45,313 {\an8}of the President of the United States and the role of the military 978 00:58:45,314 --> 00:58:48,399 {\an8}is to defend the United States and to protect its citizens. 979 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,985 If this is something that they can't protect against, 980 00:58:50,986 --> 00:58:53,529 they're not gonna come out and say it. They're not gonna scare anybody. 981 00:58:53,530 --> 00:58:56,741 They don't want to tell the American public about the threat 982 00:58:56,742 --> 00:58:58,619 because there's nothing they can do about it. 983 00:58:59,662 --> 00:59:04,374 It was only a couple months after Roswell that President Truman signed 984 00:59:04,375 --> 00:59:06,292 the National Security Act of 1947, 985 00:59:06,293 --> 00:59:11,256 which established both the Air Force and the Central Intelligence Agency. 986 00:59:11,257 --> 00:59:14,884 That was the start point in which both the CIA and the Air Force 987 00:59:14,885 --> 00:59:19,138 began to take operational control of the UAP topic. 988 00:59:19,139 --> 00:59:21,891 But it wasn't until a couple of years later 989 00:59:21,892 --> 00:59:25,395 when Truman signed the Central Intelligence Agency Act 990 00:59:25,396 --> 00:59:28,648 that really allowed, endorsed the CIA 991 00:59:28,649 --> 00:59:31,693 to be able to run secret intelligence operations 992 00:59:31,694 --> 00:59:34,279 outside the normal routine oversight channels. 993 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,908 Basically be able to run operations without anybody knowing. 994 00:59:39,118 --> 00:59:42,662 From Roswell on, the strategy for dealing with the public 995 00:59:42,663 --> 00:59:46,291 and ensuring US secrecy is maintained 996 00:59:46,292 --> 00:59:50,878 was to basically adopt the strategy of deny everything, admit nothing, 997 00:59:50,879 --> 00:59:52,839 make counter accusations, 998 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,968 put out false narratives, intimidate and discredit witnesses. 999 00:59:56,969 --> 01:00:00,471 In essence, deny, deny, deny. 1000 01:00:00,472 --> 01:00:03,266 Establish stigma surrounding this topic 1001 01:00:03,267 --> 01:00:05,435 in order to prevent any type of disclosure. 1002 01:00:05,436 --> 01:00:12,442 Executive Order 12333 bans covert action to influence the public and the media, 1003 01:00:12,443 --> 01:00:16,571 but the Legacy crash retrieval program has been ignoring that. 1004 01:00:16,572 --> 01:00:20,908 In fact, they are aggressively influencing public opinion 1005 01:00:20,909 --> 01:00:23,828 by using an active disinformation campaign. 1006 01:00:23,829 --> 01:00:28,541 {\an8}To create a tradition of disbelief, where you basically start very early, 1007 01:00:28,542 --> 01:00:31,461 {\an8}"Nah, nah, everybody who sees UFOs are crackpots," 1008 01:00:31,462 --> 01:00:34,630 {\an8}and then that gets built in, you know, to the media enterprise, 1009 01:00:34,631 --> 01:00:38,092 it gets built into Hollywood, it gets built into the public. 1010 01:00:38,093 --> 01:00:41,471 CIA funded Hollywood movies in order to create that ridicule factor 1011 01:00:41,472 --> 01:00:42,930 that they still use to this day. 1012 01:00:42,931 --> 01:00:47,685 {\an8}Do you believe that the recent spike in UFO encounters-- 1013 01:00:47,686 --> 01:00:50,313 {\an8}I get the UFO question? 1014 01:00:50,314 --> 01:00:52,648 {\an8}- Yeah, you do! - Come on, man! 1015 01:00:52,649 --> 01:00:55,151 {\an8}I'm not-- 1016 01:00:55,152 --> 01:00:56,778 - Would you tell us? - I'm just-- 1017 01:00:56,779 --> 01:01:00,281 You know, I loved E.T. the movie, but I'm just gonna leave it there. 1018 01:01:00,282 --> 01:01:04,077 Up until very recently, there was zero incentive for a naval aviator 1019 01:01:04,078 --> 01:01:05,870 to come forward and say, "This is what I saw." 1020 01:01:05,871 --> 01:01:08,998 And honestly, up until very recently, there was zero incentive for a US Senator 1021 01:01:08,999 --> 01:01:10,750 to talk about it because people would think, 1022 01:01:10,751 --> 01:01:12,502 "What's wrong? This guy's a weirdo." 1023 01:01:12,503 --> 01:01:15,254 Over the years, military service members, 1024 01:01:15,255 --> 01:01:18,800 intelligence officials and even private citizens have been ridiculed 1025 01:01:18,801 --> 01:01:22,220 and made to look crazy to the point where people have lost their jobs, 1026 01:01:22,221 --> 01:01:24,222 they've lost their ability to provide for their families, 1027 01:01:24,223 --> 01:01:26,140 they lost their security clearances. 1028 01:01:26,141 --> 01:01:30,645 These people had their lives ruined simply because they spoke the truth 1029 01:01:30,646 --> 01:01:33,272 about what they learned or what they saw. 1030 01:01:33,273 --> 01:01:35,566 {\an8}People that come forward with this, 1031 01:01:35,567 --> 01:01:39,570 {\an8}um, I feel like they've taken their life in their own hands. 1032 01:01:39,571 --> 01:01:42,240 {\an8}People say, well, government can't keep a secret. 1033 01:01:42,241 --> 01:01:44,158 {\an8}Well, there are a number of programs I've been involved in 1034 01:01:44,159 --> 01:01:46,994 {\an8}that have never gotten revealed. 1035 01:01:46,995 --> 01:01:51,165 The truth of the matter is people and programs can be kept secret. 1036 01:01:51,166 --> 01:01:54,585 Usually it's just out of personal, wanting to protect oneself. 1037 01:01:54,586 --> 01:01:58,631 This is the most successful disinformation campaign 1038 01:01:58,632 --> 01:02:01,050 in the history of the US government. 1039 01:02:01,051 --> 01:02:04,470 The irony in this is that the deception campaign 1040 01:02:04,471 --> 01:02:07,557 to create stigma was so successful 1041 01:02:07,558 --> 01:02:11,602 it actually inadvertently created a new unforeseen problem. 1042 01:02:11,603 --> 01:02:15,273 {\an8}Stigma has been a tremendous problem 1043 01:02:15,274 --> 01:02:18,693 {\an8}that it's actually a national security threat to the United States. 1044 01:02:18,694 --> 01:02:23,781 Other countries are not suffering from the stigma that we are, 1045 01:02:23,782 --> 01:02:29,495 so we are already, as Americans, at a disadvantage. 1046 01:02:29,496 --> 01:02:33,374 How can we expect to maintain a strategic advantage 1047 01:02:33,375 --> 01:02:37,420 when 99.999% of all scientists here in this country 1048 01:02:37,421 --> 01:02:39,255 don't even think it's real? 1049 01:02:39,256 --> 01:02:42,216 {\an8}Science moves forward on the basis of exchanging information, 1050 01:02:42,217 --> 01:02:47,680 {\an8}and when it's all tied up and held down, you just can't make progress. 1051 01:02:47,681 --> 01:02:52,518 You had information being locked away that frankly could improve the lives 1052 01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:58,108 of every human being on this planet and change the trajectory for our species. 1053 01:02:59,985 --> 01:03:03,362 This information was and is still being locked down 1054 01:03:03,363 --> 01:03:05,531 by the Legacy crash retrieval program. 1055 01:03:05,532 --> 01:03:09,535 Too much information resides in different stove pipes. 1056 01:03:09,536 --> 01:03:13,706 It's controlled by different baronies and different fiefdoms spread throughout 1057 01:03:13,707 --> 01:03:15,291 the National Security kingdom. 1058 01:03:15,292 --> 01:03:17,585 They each view information as power. 1059 01:03:17,586 --> 01:03:20,087 They're each reluctant to share information. 1060 01:03:20,088 --> 01:03:22,840 They hoard it. They like to trade it like a currency. 1061 01:03:22,841 --> 01:03:27,094 All of these things conspire to prevent us 1062 01:03:27,095 --> 01:03:31,390 from getting the big picture and bringing the information together. 1063 01:03:31,391 --> 01:03:34,477 It's worth noting that the Air Force didn't contribute, 1064 01:03:34,478 --> 01:03:41,442 uh, any or maybe just a tiny number of, uh, reports of UAPs. 1065 01:03:41,443 --> 01:03:44,987 Notwithstanding the fact that the Air Force controls 1066 01:03:44,988 --> 01:03:47,740 the North American Aerospace Defense Command, 1067 01:03:47,741 --> 01:03:50,785 they're responsible for space surveillance. 1068 01:03:50,786 --> 01:03:53,871 They have aircraft with superior radar systems 1069 01:03:53,872 --> 01:03:56,457 operating in the same training ranges 1070 01:03:56,458 --> 01:03:59,669 where the Navy is seeing and reporting these aircraft, 1071 01:03:59,670 --> 01:04:03,548 and yet they claim they don't have evidence of this. 1072 01:04:03,549 --> 01:04:05,174 Imagine we had a situation 1073 01:04:05,175 --> 01:04:08,594 where we're saying there are unidentified submarines 1074 01:04:08,595 --> 01:04:11,180 off the coast of the United States, 1075 01:04:11,181 --> 01:04:13,516 and the only reports we got were from the Air Force 1076 01:04:13,517 --> 01:04:15,769 and the Navy had nothing to say about it. 1077 01:04:16,603 --> 01:04:19,313 During the George W. Bush administration, 1078 01:04:19,314 --> 01:04:24,110 the president routinely went down to his ranch in Stephenville, Texas, 1079 01:04:24,111 --> 01:04:28,448 {\an8}and I see reporting of UAP activity over the ranch. 1080 01:04:29,366 --> 01:04:34,620 {\an8}F-16s from a nearby Air Force base were alerted to intercept this object. 1081 01:04:34,621 --> 01:04:36,956 People on the ground saw it. 1082 01:04:36,957 --> 01:04:41,419 So I go down and I start asking questions, "Hey, what did you chase?" 1083 01:04:41,420 --> 01:04:43,421 "I'm acting on behalf of the US government, 1084 01:04:43,422 --> 01:04:46,048 and we're trying to understand what you saw." 1085 01:04:46,049 --> 01:04:49,760 And they look me in the eyes and said, "Jay, we cannot tell you what we saw 1086 01:04:49,761 --> 01:04:53,431 because the OSI, Air Force Office of Special Investigations, 1087 01:04:53,432 --> 01:04:56,142 came in here, had us sign non-disclosure agreements." 1088 01:04:56,143 --> 01:04:58,185 "We did see something, we did scramble on something, 1089 01:04:58,186 --> 01:04:59,562 but we can't talk to you about it." 1090 01:04:59,563 --> 01:05:04,025 Historically, every time a military member had a UAP encounter, 1091 01:05:04,026 --> 01:05:06,611 it was very quickly swept under the rug, 1092 01:05:06,612 --> 01:05:08,446 and they were discouraged from talking about it. 1093 01:05:08,447 --> 01:05:11,699 {\an8}They put a form down as a non-disclosure form. 1094 01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:14,910 {\an8}He came storming across to me. He said, "Don't you ever say that again." 1095 01:05:14,911 --> 01:05:16,454 {\an8}"You don't ever speak of this." 1096 01:05:16,455 --> 01:05:17,913 {\an8}And it made it very clear that it's something 1097 01:05:17,914 --> 01:05:21,417 {\an8}we shouldn't be talking about and just keep our mouth shut. 1098 01:05:21,418 --> 01:05:24,045 {\an8}There was a culture of silence. 1099 01:05:24,046 --> 01:05:25,379 {\an8}I didn't talk to anybody about it, 1100 01:05:25,380 --> 01:05:28,799 {\an8}not my wife, not my colleagues, not people I knew. They just shut up. 1101 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,552 {\an8}There's ramifications if you were to divulge 1102 01:05:31,553 --> 01:05:33,347 {\an8}any of this information to anyone. 1103 01:05:36,850 --> 01:05:40,561 {\an8}We received an alarm at our closest missile site. 1104 01:05:40,562 --> 01:05:46,942 There was an object directly above that ICBM nuclear missile, 1105 01:05:46,943 --> 01:05:49,153 right on top of the blast door. 1106 01:05:49,154 --> 01:05:52,073 No noise, no sound whatsoever. 1107 01:05:52,074 --> 01:05:55,284 And it looked like a mini sun sitting in the air. 1108 01:05:55,285 --> 01:05:58,245 It was the size of a Super Walmart building. 1109 01:05:58,246 --> 01:06:00,581 {\an8}Not just a Walmart, I mean a Super Walmart. 1110 01:06:00,582 --> 01:06:02,166 {\an8}This thing was gargantuan. 1111 01:06:02,167 --> 01:06:06,587 {\an8}And how it could suspend itself was just completely unnatural to what we know of 1112 01:06:06,588 --> 01:06:08,548 {\an8}as anything that can fly or hover. 1113 01:06:13,220 --> 01:06:18,683 {\an8}The captain was looking, just looking up with his mouth open. 1114 01:06:18,684 --> 01:06:21,143 {\an8}And I look up and I see 1115 01:06:21,144 --> 01:06:24,106 this object right over the missile launch tube. 1116 01:06:26,692 --> 01:06:31,655 Multifaceted, matte black finish, an oddly shaped diamond. 1117 01:06:32,489 --> 01:06:35,908 Absolutely silent, made no noise. There was no means of propulsion. 1118 01:06:35,909 --> 01:06:39,705 Fifty feet up in the air, sitting absolutely still. 1119 01:06:40,997 --> 01:06:45,584 And it was amazing, and we kind of looked at one another. 1120 01:06:45,585 --> 01:06:49,255 And we were just human beings witnessing something extraordinary. 1121 01:06:49,256 --> 01:06:54,427 And while we're watching this thing, it went from dead still, 1122 01:06:54,428 --> 01:06:58,222 and it shot off toward the horizon and was gone. 1123 01:06:58,223 --> 01:07:01,601 Absolutely instant acceleration. 1124 01:07:07,899 --> 01:07:12,070 {\an8} We had 60 cameras so that the engineers at Boeing and Douglas 1125 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:17,075 {\an8}could see every millisecond of the ignition. 1126 01:07:18,285 --> 01:07:21,704 The missile in question that we photographed was an Atlas D 1127 01:07:21,705 --> 01:07:26,584 carrying, as part of an experiment, a dummy nuclear warhead. 1128 01:07:26,585 --> 01:07:29,628 As it was flying along, the warhead, the chaff, 1129 01:07:29,629 --> 01:07:31,714 something else entered the frame. 1130 01:07:31,715 --> 01:07:35,634 It shot a beam of light, and it hit the warhead, 1131 01:07:35,635 --> 01:07:37,052 flew up like this, 1132 01:07:37,053 --> 01:07:39,430 shot another beam of light down at the warhead, went like this, 1133 01:07:39,431 --> 01:07:42,516 shot under the beam of light at the warhead, went under here, 1134 01:07:42,517 --> 01:07:45,895 shot a beam of light at the warhead, and then flew out the way it had come in. 1135 01:07:45,896 --> 01:07:47,438 All the while, everything in our frame 1136 01:07:47,439 --> 01:07:49,982 was moving along at 8,000 to 9,000 miles an hour. 1137 01:07:49,983 --> 01:07:52,359 There's nothing of ours that could've done that. 1138 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,029 What could have done that? 1139 01:08:00,911 --> 01:08:05,372 {\an8}There was this red orange light hovering above the front gate. 1140 01:08:05,373 --> 01:08:09,211 {\an8}It was about 40 feet in diameter, sort of oval shape. 1141 01:08:12,088 --> 01:08:16,717 {\an8}And each missile was announcing a guidance and control system failure. 1142 01:08:16,718 --> 01:08:22,473 {\an8}Our missiles were starting to go down, so we had all ten of 'em go down. 1143 01:08:22,474 --> 01:08:29,523 Within the span of eight days, we lost 20 nuclear missiles to UFOs. 1144 01:08:33,235 --> 01:08:35,986 {\an8}Vandenberg is home to the infrastructure 1145 01:08:35,987 --> 01:08:38,906 {\an8}that supports our National Missile Defense project, 1146 01:08:38,907 --> 01:08:40,658 {\an8}the system that defends our country 1147 01:08:40,659 --> 01:08:43,452 {\an8}from incoming ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons. 1148 01:08:43,453 --> 01:08:46,372 So it's one of the most important bases we have. 1149 01:08:46,373 --> 01:08:48,457 On October 14th, 2003, 1150 01:08:48,458 --> 01:08:50,960 I showed up to work at Vandenberg Air Force Base 1151 01:08:50,961 --> 01:08:55,297 and immediately everybody just started to tell me about this UFO incident 1152 01:08:55,298 --> 01:08:57,424 that had happened earlier that morning. 1153 01:08:57,425 --> 01:09:00,761 {\an8}I reported for work, um, at Vandenberg Air Force Base. 1154 01:09:00,762 --> 01:09:02,930 {\an8}We were given a briefing earlier in the day. 1155 01:09:02,931 --> 01:09:06,225 {\an8}Some Boeing contractors had witnessed a UAP incursion. 1156 01:09:06,226 --> 01:09:10,104 Three Boeing contractors had called in and reported 1157 01:09:10,105 --> 01:09:14,066 that a gigantic red square object 1158 01:09:14,067 --> 01:09:17,111 was floating over the launchpad at low altitude. 1159 01:09:17,112 --> 01:09:21,156 It was making no noise, it had no obvious signs of propulsion, 1160 01:09:21,157 --> 01:09:23,450 and it was just hovering silently. 1161 01:09:23,451 --> 01:09:26,161 It was a very serious security breach of the area. 1162 01:09:26,162 --> 01:09:28,581 And we were told just to be vigilant when we were out on our shift that night. 1163 01:09:28,582 --> 01:09:33,711 And I spent the most of the day driving around the base looking for these objects. 1164 01:09:33,712 --> 01:09:36,505 Later that night, myself and five security forces members, 1165 01:09:36,506 --> 01:09:39,091 we observed a bright light approaching the base. 1166 01:09:39,092 --> 01:09:41,427 As it got closer, the light was no longer visible, 1167 01:09:41,428 --> 01:09:44,972 and it was massive, the size of a football field, 1168 01:09:44,973 --> 01:09:47,141 almost rectangular in shape. 1169 01:09:47,142 --> 01:09:48,350 It was just floating there. 1170 01:09:48,351 --> 01:09:52,897 No propulsion system, no windows. It was matte black. 1171 01:09:52,898 --> 01:09:55,482 We observed it for another 45 seconds. 1172 01:09:55,483 --> 01:09:58,819 And then it shot off thousands of miles an hour up the coast. 1173 01:09:58,820 --> 01:10:02,323 I talked to all the direct witnesses, over a dozen people, 1174 01:10:02,324 --> 01:10:04,867 and even from their different vantage points, 1175 01:10:04,868 --> 01:10:08,621 they all told the same story. They all saw the same thing. 1176 01:10:08,622 --> 01:10:13,292 The UAP activity surrounding nuclear weapons is not a historic issue. 1177 01:10:13,293 --> 01:10:15,253 It's an ongoing issue. 1178 01:10:16,171 --> 01:10:20,132 Despite the longstanding denial by the United States Air Force, 1179 01:10:20,133 --> 01:10:25,346 we now have both former and current very senior Air Force officials 1180 01:10:25,347 --> 01:10:29,433 stating for the record that in fact the Air Force has had 1181 01:10:29,434 --> 01:10:32,895 a longstanding involvement in UAP. 1182 01:10:32,896 --> 01:10:37,650 {\an8}I served in the Air Force for about 32 years, 1183 01:10:37,651 --> 01:10:41,153 and my last job in the Air Force was chief of Air Force Intelligence, 1184 01:10:41,154 --> 01:10:44,365 prior to becoming director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. 1185 01:10:44,366 --> 01:10:47,034 When I served in the Air Force, 1186 01:10:47,035 --> 01:10:54,083 uh, there was an active program to track anomalous activities 1187 01:10:54,084 --> 01:10:57,503 that, uh, you know, we couldn't otherwise explain. 1188 01:10:57,504 --> 01:11:04,094 Many of them connected with ranges out west, notably, um, Area 51. 1189 01:11:07,764 --> 01:11:10,557 As Congress learned more about the Legacy Program, 1190 01:11:10,558 --> 01:11:15,563 they realized how powerful and influential the defense contractors have become. 1191 01:11:18,650 --> 01:11:23,487 As we look at the actual structure of the interaction between the government 1192 01:11:23,488 --> 01:11:26,323 and private industry in this UAP area, 1193 01:11:26,324 --> 01:11:29,159 over the years, it has morphed, 1194 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:34,748 transitioned into it being largely in the aegis of the contractors. 1195 01:11:34,749 --> 01:11:36,458 If you do something within the government, 1196 01:11:36,459 --> 01:11:39,920 eventually it can be accessed by Freedom of Information Act. 1197 01:11:39,921 --> 01:11:42,548 But if you do something through contractors, 1198 01:11:42,549 --> 01:11:46,135 they're not available through Freedom of Information Act. 1199 01:11:46,136 --> 01:11:50,806 I had been involved myself in projects where we made sure that the material 1200 01:11:50,807 --> 01:11:54,226 was under contractor labels 1201 01:11:54,227 --> 01:11:58,063 so they couldn't be accessed easily by the public. 1202 01:11:58,064 --> 01:12:01,316 But what happens with government, you need continuity. 1203 01:12:01,317 --> 01:12:03,610 People move, people die, people retire. 1204 01:12:03,611 --> 01:12:06,905 So what winds up happening is you have these Legacy efforts going on 1205 01:12:06,906 --> 01:12:10,117 in the government contractor side involving UAP. 1206 01:12:10,118 --> 01:12:13,203 {\an8}And then I, the government official in charge of this program, leave 1207 01:12:13,204 --> 01:12:16,081 {\an8}and someone else takes my place, and that person might have 1208 01:12:16,082 --> 01:12:18,125 {\an8}a little bit of awareness that this project existed. 1209 01:12:18,126 --> 01:12:19,877 But then they're replaced by a third person 1210 01:12:19,878 --> 01:12:21,920 who has no idea that the project existed. 1211 01:12:21,921 --> 01:12:24,089 But the corporate entity that received 1212 01:12:24,090 --> 01:12:26,633 this technology is still trying to develop it, 1213 01:12:26,634 --> 01:12:28,635 and so they begin to commercialize that. 1214 01:12:28,636 --> 01:12:31,472 Some of the stuff begins to seep out in these great innovations 1215 01:12:31,473 --> 01:12:33,849 that some company's coming up with and making money on, 1216 01:12:33,850 --> 01:12:36,685 and they claim it belongs to them and it's proprietary. 1217 01:12:36,686 --> 01:12:40,355 Um, and the people in government who know where it came from originally, 1218 01:12:40,356 --> 01:12:44,276 they're long gone and their successors have no idea that it was there at all. 1219 01:12:44,277 --> 01:12:48,864 And so you can start to foresee where you create in corporate hands 1220 01:12:48,865 --> 01:12:50,532 an extraordinary amount of power. 1221 01:12:50,533 --> 01:12:55,454 The real risk in transferring technology that is not useful to us today 1222 01:12:55,455 --> 01:12:56,955 to a corporate entity. 1223 01:12:56,956 --> 01:12:58,707 Over decades, that corporate entity 1224 01:12:58,708 --> 01:13:01,376 comes to basically possess and control access to it 1225 01:13:01,377 --> 01:13:04,671 for their own purposes, not for the purposes of national security. 1226 01:13:04,672 --> 01:13:06,381 {\an8}In the councils of government, 1227 01:13:06,382 --> 01:13:10,469 {\an8}we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, 1228 01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:15,974 whether sought or unsought by the military industrial complex. 1229 01:13:15,975 --> 01:13:18,477 The potential for the disastrous rise 1230 01:13:18,478 --> 01:13:21,731 of misplaced power exists and will persist. 1231 01:13:22,816 --> 01:13:25,400 We must never let the weight of this combination 1232 01:13:25,401 --> 01:13:28,487 endanger our liberties or democratic processes. 1233 01:13:28,488 --> 01:13:31,323 {\an8}The reason why our democracy is so strong 1234 01:13:31,324 --> 01:13:34,118 {\an8}because it's of the people and by the people and for the people. 1235 01:13:34,119 --> 01:13:38,288 {\an8}It's not acceptable to have secret parts of government that no one ever sees. 1236 01:13:38,289 --> 01:13:40,040 {\an8}It would be unconscionable. 1237 01:13:40,041 --> 01:13:42,918 {\an8}It's against our constitution and it's wrong. 1238 01:13:42,919 --> 01:13:46,588 {\an8}Non-human intelligence is not government information, 1239 01:13:46,589 --> 01:13:50,552 {\an8}and the government should not be keeping that knowledge from the people. 1240 01:13:54,389 --> 01:13:55,681 Before he passed away, 1241 01:13:55,682 --> 01:13:58,642 I had the privilege of seeing Senator Harry Reid 1242 01:13:58,643 --> 01:14:01,979 quite a few times in his private residence. 1243 01:14:01,980 --> 01:14:06,567 He explained to me that he was once provided information 1244 01:14:06,568 --> 01:14:09,236 on the Legacy Program but denied access. 1245 01:14:09,237 --> 01:14:10,988 He was incensed by that. 1246 01:14:10,989 --> 01:14:14,867 And when the opportunity came to sponsor AATIP, 1247 01:14:14,868 --> 01:14:16,952 he jumped at the opportunity 1248 01:14:16,953 --> 01:14:19,496 in order to ensure that Congress and the government 1249 01:14:19,497 --> 01:14:22,040 had visibility into this topic. 1250 01:14:22,041 --> 01:14:25,210 And frankly, we wouldn't be where we are today 1251 01:14:25,211 --> 01:14:28,672 if it wasn't for the courage of Senator Harry Reid. 1252 01:14:28,673 --> 01:14:32,385 {\an8}Why the federal government all these years has covered up, 1253 01:14:33,469 --> 01:14:36,930 {\an8}put brake pads on everything, stopped it? 1254 01:14:36,931 --> 01:14:40,559 {\an8}I think it's very, very bad for our country. 1255 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,229 Should we study this stuff? The answer is yes. 1256 01:14:44,230 --> 01:14:46,399 And that's all this was about. 1257 01:14:51,070 --> 01:14:52,946 For decades, our government assumed 1258 01:14:52,947 --> 01:14:55,657 there must be different exotic technologies responsible 1259 01:14:55,658 --> 01:14:57,576 for each of the observables, 1260 01:14:57,577 --> 01:15:01,622 but our scientists realized one breakthrough technology 1261 01:15:01,623 --> 01:15:05,001 could actually be responsible for everything. 1262 01:15:07,837 --> 01:15:10,589 With enough energy, you could create a bubble, 1263 01:15:10,590 --> 01:15:12,716 a warp bubble around a spacecraft 1264 01:15:12,717 --> 01:15:15,177 that would have a different property of space-time 1265 01:15:15,178 --> 01:15:17,639 inside the bubble than on the outside of the bubble. 1266 01:15:19,724 --> 01:15:22,184 This energy field would completely isolate 1267 01:15:22,185 --> 01:15:23,937 the craft from the environment. 1268 01:15:26,397 --> 01:15:29,691 So you might ask then, how does the craft actually move forward 1269 01:15:29,692 --> 01:15:31,235 within its bubble? 1270 01:15:31,236 --> 01:15:36,323 The craft inside the bubble has a way of altering the bubble's properties 1271 01:15:36,324 --> 01:15:40,285 in order to change its direction of motion. 1272 01:15:40,286 --> 01:15:44,122 Such that you have a downward press in front 1273 01:15:44,123 --> 01:15:47,000 and an upward press behind. 1274 01:15:47,001 --> 01:15:49,586 So it'd be like riding space-time in the same way 1275 01:15:49,587 --> 01:15:52,090 that a surfer would ride a wave in the ocean. 1276 01:15:54,842 --> 01:15:59,263 And we observe hypersonic velocity and instantaneous acceleration, 1277 01:15:59,264 --> 01:16:03,183 and the reason is that time is moving differently for people inside the bubble 1278 01:16:03,184 --> 01:16:05,018 versus people outside the bubble. 1279 01:16:05,019 --> 01:16:08,480 Whoever's inside the craft would feel like they're just cruising along. 1280 01:16:08,481 --> 01:16:12,192 They wouldn't be feeling the effects of what looks like speeds and accelerations 1281 01:16:12,193 --> 01:16:14,529 that would turn a human being into pudding. 1282 01:16:16,739 --> 01:16:19,866 This one breakthrough can be the key to interstellar travel, 1283 01:16:19,867 --> 01:16:22,452 {\an8}where you want to travel long distances 1284 01:16:22,453 --> 01:16:25,747 {\an8}without taking enormous amounts of subjective time. 1285 01:16:25,748 --> 01:16:30,252 {\an8}We'd also have low observability because the bubble acts as a barrier 1286 01:16:30,253 --> 01:16:32,462 between two space-time environments. 1287 01:16:32,463 --> 01:16:35,632 This would eliminate or conceal most of the known signatures 1288 01:16:35,633 --> 01:16:37,175 of conventional technologies. 1289 01:16:37,176 --> 01:16:41,722 This is why radar would have difficulty tracking a craft because the signal 1290 01:16:41,723 --> 01:16:45,684 from the radar would be distorted by the energy field around the craft. 1291 01:16:45,685 --> 01:16:49,438 The radar signatures literally just moved around the bubble 1292 01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,982 and doesn't reflect back to the radar emitter. 1293 01:16:51,983 --> 01:16:56,737 So it's not surprising when someone takes a photo of a UAP, 1294 01:16:56,738 --> 01:16:59,614 they find they get a fuzzy and distorted picture 1295 01:16:59,615 --> 01:17:03,286 because they're actually taking a photo through a space-time barrier. 1296 01:17:06,914 --> 01:17:08,457 What's been happening recently 1297 01:17:08,458 --> 01:17:12,544 is that we have upgraded our sensor systems on our fighter aircraft. 1298 01:17:12,545 --> 01:17:16,757 And these images that are now picked up with our advanced sensor systems, 1299 01:17:16,758 --> 01:17:21,511 we can begin to see the actual structure of the energy field around the craft, 1300 01:17:21,512 --> 01:17:24,140 which in the past they would not have been able to do. 1301 01:17:25,767 --> 01:17:28,018 We also observed transmedium travel 1302 01:17:28,019 --> 01:17:31,980 because the craft is moving within its own space-time, 1303 01:17:31,981 --> 01:17:36,861 and the outside environment through which it's moving is inconsequential. 1304 01:17:37,445 --> 01:17:40,697 {\an8}This would allow a craft to go seamlessly from space 1305 01:17:40,698 --> 01:17:44,117 through the atmosphere into the water. 1306 01:17:44,118 --> 01:17:48,163 And they could do so because the warp bubble that surrounds them 1307 01:17:48,164 --> 01:17:51,875 shunts air molecules or ocean water molecules 1308 01:17:51,876 --> 01:17:55,838 around the craft so that it could move effortlessly through any medium. 1309 01:17:58,508 --> 01:18:02,260 We also observe anti-gravity because the Earth's gravitational field 1310 01:18:02,261 --> 01:18:06,516 is no longer having any effect on the craft inside its space-time bubble. 1311 01:18:07,850 --> 01:18:09,684 {\an8}This is why a craft does not need say, 1312 01:18:09,685 --> 01:18:14,564 engines or wings or other aspects that we would associate with a craft 1313 01:18:14,565 --> 01:18:16,650 that needs to fly in the atmosphere. 1314 01:18:16,651 --> 01:18:19,028 It's really disconnected from the atmosphere. 1315 01:18:21,364 --> 01:18:24,116 {\an8}And the energy field associated with these craft 1316 01:18:24,117 --> 01:18:26,701 causes a highly energetic wave of radiation, 1317 01:18:26,702 --> 01:18:31,123 which is why people getting too close to a UAP can experience biological effects 1318 01:18:31,124 --> 01:18:32,583 that are harmful to humans. 1319 01:18:35,253 --> 01:18:40,298 {\an8}Now that we understand that these craft exist in a space-time environment 1320 01:18:40,299 --> 01:18:44,052 that's different from the exterior space-time environment, 1321 01:18:44,053 --> 01:18:47,597 this can begin to explain claimed observations by say 1322 01:18:47,598 --> 01:18:51,643 military people who have approached and gotten into a craft 1323 01:18:51,644 --> 01:18:55,147 and find that time is running at a different rate inside the craft 1324 01:18:55,148 --> 01:18:57,858 than time running outside the craft. 1325 01:18:57,859 --> 01:19:00,694 They think they're only there for a few minutes, 1326 01:19:00,695 --> 01:19:03,989 when they come outside the craft, some hours have gone by, 1327 01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:06,783 so they feel like they've got missing time. 1328 01:19:06,784 --> 01:19:11,621 Or similarly, with respect to the size of the craft, 1329 01:19:11,622 --> 01:19:13,582 if someone is outside the craft 1330 01:19:13,583 --> 01:19:17,377 and it looks like a small craft and they go inside, 1331 01:19:17,378 --> 01:19:20,046 it's the size of a football stadium. 1332 01:19:20,047 --> 01:19:24,092 Once you've realized that space and time 1333 01:19:24,093 --> 01:19:27,179 are being engineered to be different 1334 01:19:27,180 --> 01:19:30,140 inside the craft than they are outside the craft, 1335 01:19:30,141 --> 01:19:34,394 then these anomalies that people report that sound completely absurd 1336 01:19:34,395 --> 01:19:36,772 can actually make sense. 1337 01:19:41,903 --> 01:19:45,948 The top issue is what is their energy supply? 1338 01:19:46,324 --> 01:19:51,119 {\an8}Because the evidence for how much energy they're using per unit time 1339 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:55,499 {\an8}so exceeds any kind of power levels that we can generate. 1340 01:19:55,500 --> 01:19:58,919 {\an8}UAPs have exhibited propulsive performance characteristics 1341 01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:04,341 {\an8}that imply the generation of 1,100 billion watts of power. 1342 01:20:04,342 --> 01:20:06,218 This is more than 100 times 1343 01:20:06,219 --> 01:20:09,888 the daily electrical utility power generated in the US. 1344 01:20:09,889 --> 01:20:11,973 Let that sink in. 1345 01:20:11,974 --> 01:20:18,981 One hundred times the daily power generation of the entire nation. 1346 01:20:21,192 --> 01:20:26,238 There are two prevailing hypotheses for how UAPs create the energy 1347 01:20:26,239 --> 01:20:28,657 that warps space-time around them, 1348 01:20:28,658 --> 01:20:34,079 and one is that the spacecraft can produce, uh, its own bubble 1349 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:39,000 of vacuum energy around the craft, which is also known as zero-point energy. 1350 01:20:39,001 --> 01:20:43,630 And the other one is that the craft could be using quantum entanglement 1351 01:20:43,631 --> 01:20:47,260 to draw on a remote distant source of energy. 1352 01:20:50,012 --> 01:20:53,057 {\an8} If we can understand the technology that we're observing, 1353 01:20:54,016 --> 01:20:59,229 {\an8}it has so many potentially beneficial impacts, 1354 01:20:59,230 --> 01:21:02,357 {\an8}including clean energy. 1355 01:21:02,358 --> 01:21:05,944 {\an8}We're seeing these craft doing unbelievable things, 1356 01:21:05,945 --> 01:21:08,698 {\an8}and it's not combustion engineering. 1357 01:21:09,991 --> 01:21:16,037 This is technology that could replace oil, gas and coal 1358 01:21:16,038 --> 01:21:18,874 and protect our planet for future generations. 1359 01:21:20,376 --> 01:21:21,501 How can we use these technologies 1360 01:21:21,502 --> 01:21:23,670 and all the capabilities that come from it, 1361 01:21:23,671 --> 01:21:27,299 not to fight a war, but to increase our standard of living, 1362 01:21:27,300 --> 01:21:30,760 you know, to increase our ability to get from place to place. 1363 01:21:30,761 --> 01:21:33,054 {\an8}We can talk more about teleportation, 1364 01:21:33,055 --> 01:21:36,641 {\an8}we could talk more about, uh, hypersonic travel. 1365 01:21:36,642 --> 01:21:39,936 {\an8}Being able to take human beings to the next evolutionary step, 1366 01:21:39,937 --> 01:21:41,022 which is the stars, 1367 01:21:41,188 --> 01:21:44,108 being able to explore new star systems and planets. 1368 01:21:46,277 --> 01:21:47,527 On the other hand, 1369 01:21:47,528 --> 01:21:52,282 you'd have to weigh the consequences of sharing, uh, with the world, 1370 01:21:52,283 --> 01:21:54,492 knowing that there are bad actors out there. 1371 01:21:54,493 --> 01:21:57,329 If our adversaries would have access to that same technologies, 1372 01:21:57,330 --> 01:22:02,042 they could flip that into some very, very powerful weapons of mass destruction. 1373 01:22:02,043 --> 01:22:06,129 {\an8}You could put a nuclear bomb inside one of these things and let it fly 1374 01:22:06,130 --> 01:22:09,674 {\an8}right through a building, through concrete, through steel, 1375 01:22:09,675 --> 01:22:11,593 {\an8}wherever you want it, anywhere in the world. 1376 01:22:11,594 --> 01:22:15,096 We want to talk about it publicly and encourage folks to talk about it, 1377 01:22:15,097 --> 01:22:17,932 but while we're talking about it publicly, 1378 01:22:17,933 --> 01:22:21,978 our adversaries are paying attention to context clues to piece things together 1379 01:22:21,979 --> 01:22:24,481 about possible technologies that we may have 1380 01:22:24,482 --> 01:22:26,316 that they don't have access to. 1381 01:22:26,317 --> 01:22:28,109 So it's a fine line. 1382 01:22:28,110 --> 01:22:32,072 I would opt for making any new energy source 1383 01:22:32,073 --> 01:22:36,117 a humanitarian, uh, issue. 1384 01:22:36,118 --> 01:22:38,244 That it should be open. 1385 01:22:38,245 --> 01:22:41,539 And we know how to do that. We've done that with nuclear power. 1386 01:22:41,540 --> 01:22:46,670 {\an8}If the capabilities that exist come to the forefront 1387 01:22:46,671 --> 01:22:49,714 {\an8}and they become known to the world, 1388 01:22:49,715 --> 01:22:53,886 {\an8}it might very well be that it is to the benefit of mankind. 1389 01:23:00,685 --> 01:23:04,020 While Congress had learned a great deal about the Legacy Program, 1390 01:23:04,021 --> 01:23:08,358 whistleblowers were still afraid to reveal the most secretive details 1391 01:23:08,359 --> 01:23:10,360 about the UAP technology 1392 01:23:10,361 --> 01:23:13,197 and non-human bodies in the program's possession. 1393 01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:19,577 We'd been interviewing folks that would have had evidence of 1394 01:23:19,578 --> 01:23:24,333 or first-hand direct contact with either materials 1395 01:23:24,458 --> 01:23:25,917 or a program itself. 1396 01:23:25,918 --> 01:23:28,879 {\an8}They have worked on craft 1397 01:23:29,463 --> 01:23:33,426 {\an8}of out of this world origin, but until... 1398 01:23:34,635 --> 01:23:39,431 they leak a video before they commit suicide by shooting themselves 1399 01:23:39,432 --> 01:23:41,015 in the back of the head four times, 1400 01:23:41,016 --> 01:23:44,602 um, I just don't know that that's going to get out. 1401 01:23:44,603 --> 01:23:49,399 Those people whose job it is to make sure information doesn't get out 1402 01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:53,778 will use whatever tool they can find to try to convince people 1403 01:23:53,779 --> 01:23:55,238 they shouldn't come forward. 1404 01:23:55,239 --> 01:23:58,825 {\an8}We have people that have very high clearances both today and in the past, 1405 01:23:58,826 --> 01:24:00,618 {\an8}who did really important work for our government 1406 01:24:00,619 --> 01:24:02,620 {\an8}or continue to do important work for the government, 1407 01:24:02,621 --> 01:24:04,289 {\an8}who have come forward with some claims 1408 01:24:04,290 --> 01:24:07,959 {\an8}about the US having in the past recovered exotic materials, 1409 01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:09,794 {\an8}and then we reverse engineered those materials 1410 01:24:09,795 --> 01:24:13,256 {\an8}to make advances in our own defenses and technologies. 1411 01:24:13,257 --> 01:24:17,177 {\an8}And that they signed agreements that they would face jail time 1412 01:24:17,178 --> 01:24:19,554 {\an8}or in some cases some people claim it would cost them their lives 1413 01:24:19,555 --> 01:24:21,431 {\an8}if they spoke out about these things. 1414 01:24:21,432 --> 01:24:23,266 {\an8}When I have a whistleblower coming forward, 1415 01:24:23,267 --> 01:24:25,101 {\an8}telling me that they're in fear of their life 1416 01:24:25,102 --> 01:24:29,022 {\an8}and that people have been hurt protecting and hiding this information, 1417 01:24:29,023 --> 01:24:31,233 that gives me reason for concern. 1418 01:24:32,651 --> 01:24:34,194 Determined to get to the truth, 1419 01:24:34,195 --> 01:24:39,325 it was Chris Mellon who led the charge to help Congress draft unprecedented 1420 01:24:39,450 --> 01:24:40,910 UAP whistleblower protections. 1421 01:24:42,995 --> 01:24:44,996 And in December of 2022, 1422 01:24:44,997 --> 01:24:47,792 President Biden signed the legislation into law. 1423 01:24:48,876 --> 01:24:51,169 {\an8}So even for those who signed NDAs, 1424 01:24:51,170 --> 01:24:54,256 {\an8}they still have a right and an opportunity to talk about this 1425 01:24:54,381 --> 01:24:58,552 {\an8}in a very healthy and productive way that informs the American public. 1426 01:25:01,972 --> 01:25:05,141 {\an8}Bombshell claims from a military whistleblower, 1427 01:25:05,142 --> 01:25:09,395 {\an8}UFO wreckage recovered by the US kept classified 1428 01:25:09,396 --> 01:25:12,482 {\an8}by a secret government program for decades. 1429 01:25:12,483 --> 01:25:18,279 {\an8}The UAP task force was refused access to, um, a broad crash retrieval program, 1430 01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:22,367 {\an8}retrieving non-human origin technical vehicles, 1431 01:25:22,368 --> 01:25:24,452 {\an8}call it spacecraft if you will. 1432 01:25:24,453 --> 01:25:29,290 {\an8}Non-human exotic origin vehicles that have either landed or crashed. 1433 01:25:29,291 --> 01:25:32,710 I handpicked Dave Grusch to be part of my UAP task force. 1434 01:25:32,711 --> 01:25:36,798 Everything that Dave uncovered is true, but it barely scratches the surface. 1435 01:25:36,799 --> 01:25:41,553 {\an8}There's a sophisticated disinformation campaign targeting the US populace, 1436 01:25:41,554 --> 01:25:44,180 {\an8}which is extremely unethical and immoral. 1437 01:25:44,181 --> 01:25:47,559 {\an8}Have people been killed to protect the secret? 1438 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,855 {\an8}That was an ongoing concern. 1439 01:25:59,321 --> 01:26:04,409 Dave has been working tirelessly behind the scenes 1440 01:26:04,410 --> 01:26:07,370 with Congress as well, and we were really poking the bear. 1441 01:26:07,371 --> 01:26:08,746 We were making a lot of progress. 1442 01:26:08,747 --> 01:26:11,249 We were getting a lot of information to Congress, 1443 01:26:11,250 --> 01:26:17,130 um, and it wasn't necessarily symbiotic 1444 01:26:17,131 --> 01:26:19,257 with the Legacy Program in their desires. 1445 01:26:19,258 --> 01:26:25,180 I remember one evening, uh, I was sitting with my wife on the front porch, 1446 01:26:26,807 --> 01:26:28,057 and I received a call. 1447 01:26:28,058 --> 01:26:31,060 I recognized the voice of one of a friend of mine, 1448 01:26:31,061 --> 01:26:34,939 and he happened to be one of staffers on the Hill, 1449 01:26:34,940 --> 01:26:36,399 and he was very shooken up and said, 1450 01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,569 "Listen, we had a very interesting meeting on the Hill." 1451 01:26:39,570 --> 01:26:44,073 And an extremely, extremely senior person in the US government 1452 01:26:44,074 --> 01:26:48,202 in the intelligence community told Congress, for the record, 1453 01:26:48,203 --> 01:26:50,914 that there was a committee of 27 individuals, 1454 01:26:50,915 --> 01:26:53,499 and I'm not going to go into code names here, 1455 01:26:53,500 --> 01:26:58,212 that were mulling over the idea of using extreme measures 1456 01:26:58,213 --> 01:27:01,049 to silence David and myself. 1457 01:27:01,050 --> 01:27:03,051 Kill us. 1458 01:27:03,052 --> 01:27:05,637 Now, people say, "Oh, come on, that's conspiracy." 1459 01:27:05,638 --> 01:27:07,222 No, it's not. 1460 01:27:09,433 --> 01:27:11,059 We have done it before. 1461 01:27:11,060 --> 01:27:15,355 Under certain circumstances, we have killed Americans without due process. 1462 01:27:15,356 --> 01:27:19,567 If they are a clear and present national security threat, 1463 01:27:19,568 --> 01:27:21,611 we can kill Americans. 1464 01:27:21,612 --> 01:27:24,405 Now, it's not done very often, but we can. 1465 01:27:24,406 --> 01:27:27,868 Without a fair trial, they just poof, disappear, right? 1466 01:27:28,619 --> 01:27:29,745 So here I am. 1467 01:27:31,246 --> 01:27:34,582 If I wind up in a month from now floating in the Potomac somewhere, 1468 01:27:34,583 --> 01:27:38,837 you know what happened. You know what happened. This is the truth. 1469 01:27:41,048 --> 01:27:43,759 What else you want to know? 1470 01:27:51,558 --> 01:27:55,061 Last year, House Intelligence Committee held a hearing on UAPs. 1471 01:27:55,062 --> 01:27:58,439 They brought in some Pentagon bureaucrats who only had two answers 1472 01:27:58,440 --> 01:28:02,276 to the questions they were asked. "I don't know," or "That's classified." 1473 01:28:02,277 --> 01:28:04,362 This hearing is going to be different. 1474 01:28:04,363 --> 01:28:07,156 This time, we had credible witnesses 1475 01:28:07,157 --> 01:28:10,910 testifying before Congress and American people under oath. 1476 01:28:10,911 --> 01:28:14,956 This was a tremendously proud moment for my colleagues and myself 1477 01:28:14,957 --> 01:28:18,918 to watch the fire that we started continue to grow. 1478 01:28:18,919 --> 01:28:22,880 {\an8} The subcommittee hearing on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena, 1479 01:28:22,881 --> 01:28:24,632 or UAPs, will come to order. 1480 01:28:24,633 --> 01:28:27,969 The reality is the American public deserves to know. 1481 01:28:27,970 --> 01:28:30,596 And you better be careful about a government 1482 01:28:30,597 --> 01:28:32,181 that doesn't trust its people 1483 01:28:32,182 --> 01:28:34,559 because there's no telling what they'll pull on you. 1484 01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,686 {\an8}It's really important that we're here in a bipartisan way 1485 01:28:36,687 --> 01:28:40,441 {\an8}to have this conversation, which is about national security. 1486 01:28:40,983 --> 01:28:46,279 {\an8}The American public has a right to learn about technologies of unknown origins, 1487 01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,908 {\an8}non-human intelligence and unexplainable phenomenon. 1488 01:28:50,576 --> 01:28:54,078 {\an8}You solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give 1489 01:28:54,079 --> 01:28:57,623 {\an8}is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 1490 01:28:57,624 --> 01:28:59,542 {\an8}- Yes. - Yep. 1491 01:28:59,543 --> 01:29:02,962 {\an8}I was informed in the course of my official duties 1492 01:29:02,963 --> 01:29:08,301 {\an8}of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program. 1493 01:29:08,302 --> 01:29:13,347 {\an8}I am hopeful that my actions will ultimately lead to a positive outcome 1494 01:29:13,348 --> 01:29:15,016 {\an8}of increased transparency. 1495 01:29:15,017 --> 01:29:18,686 {\an8}We were primarily seeing dark gray or black cubes inside of a clear sphere, 1496 01:29:18,687 --> 01:29:22,648 {\an8}where the apex or tips of the cube were touching the inside of that sphere. 1497 01:29:22,649 --> 01:29:24,650 {\an8}Since the events initially occurred, 1498 01:29:24,651 --> 01:29:26,861 {\an8}I've learned the objects have been detected 1499 01:29:26,862 --> 01:29:29,322 {\an8}essentially where all operations, 1500 01:29:29,323 --> 01:29:31,783 {\an8}Navy operations are being conducted across the world. 1501 01:29:31,784 --> 01:29:33,576 {\an8}These objects have been observed 1502 01:29:33,577 --> 01:29:36,162 {\an8}for over two weeks coming down from over 80,000 feet, 1503 01:29:36,163 --> 01:29:37,997 {\an8}rapidly descending to 20,000 feet, 1504 01:29:37,998 --> 01:29:40,917 {\an8}hanging out for hours and then going straight back up. 1505 01:29:40,918 --> 01:29:44,921 {\an8}It wasn't until 2009, until Jay Stratton had contacted me to investigate. 1506 01:29:44,922 --> 01:29:48,382 {\an8}Unbeknownst to all, he was part of the AATIP program in the Pentagon. 1507 01:29:48,383 --> 01:29:50,510 {\an8}Are you aware of any individuals that are participating 1508 01:29:50,511 --> 01:29:53,429 {\an8}in reverse engineering programs for non-terrestrial craft? 1509 01:29:53,430 --> 01:29:54,764 {\an8}Personally, yes. Mm-hm. 1510 01:29:54,765 --> 01:29:57,141 {\an8}Do you believe that our government is in possession of UAPs? 1511 01:29:57,142 --> 01:29:58,726 {\an8}I know the exact locations. 1512 01:29:58,727 --> 01:30:01,854 {\an8}I actually had the people with the first-hand knowledge, 1513 01:30:01,855 --> 01:30:04,857 {\an8}um, provide a protected disclosure to the inspector general. 1514 01:30:04,858 --> 01:30:08,236 {\an8}Do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? 1515 01:30:08,237 --> 01:30:11,322 {\an8}Biologics came with some of these recoveries. Yeah. 1516 01:30:11,323 --> 01:30:14,200 {\an8}- Non-human biologics? - Non-human. 1517 01:30:14,201 --> 01:30:18,454 {\an8}I was wondering if you could speak a little bit about the interaction 1518 01:30:18,455 --> 01:30:20,289 {\an8}between defense contractor companies 1519 01:30:20,290 --> 01:30:23,042 {\an8}and any UAP-related programs or activities. 1520 01:30:23,043 --> 01:30:25,586 {\an8}The contractors, "the metal benders," so to speak, 1521 01:30:25,587 --> 01:30:30,091 {\an8}they're the ones actually doing specific performance on government contracts. 1522 01:30:30,092 --> 01:30:32,218 {\an8}How does a program like that get funded? 1523 01:30:32,219 --> 01:30:33,594 {\an8}Misappropriation of funds. 1524 01:30:33,595 --> 01:30:35,263 {\an8}Does that mean that there is money 1525 01:30:35,264 --> 01:30:37,265 {\an8}in the budget that is set to go to a program 1526 01:30:37,266 --> 01:30:38,933 {\an8}but it doesn't, and it goes to something else? 1527 01:30:38,934 --> 01:30:40,518 {\an8}Yes, I have specific knowledge of that. 1528 01:30:40,519 --> 01:30:42,478 {\an8} Mr. Graves and Fravor, 1529 01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:45,773 {\an8}in the event that your encounters had become hostile, 1530 01:30:45,774 --> 01:30:48,734 {\an8}would you have had the capability to defend yourself? 1531 01:30:48,735 --> 01:30:52,321 {\an8}- Absolutely not, sir. - No. 1532 01:30:52,322 --> 01:30:56,117 {\an8}What we experienced was well beyond the material science and the capabilities 1533 01:30:56,118 --> 01:30:58,494 that we had at the time, that we have currently 1534 01:30:58,495 --> 01:31:00,788 or we're going to have in the next 20 years. 1535 01:31:00,789 --> 01:31:03,791 We have nothing that can stop in midair and go the other direction, 1536 01:31:03,792 --> 01:31:05,251 nor do we have anything that can, 1537 01:31:05,252 --> 01:31:07,253 like in our situation, come down from space, 1538 01:31:07,254 --> 01:31:08,713 hangout for three hours and go back up. 1539 01:31:08,714 --> 01:31:13,259 {\an8}Is it possible that these UAPs would be probing our capabilities, yes or no? 1540 01:31:13,260 --> 01:31:14,844 {\an8}- Mr. Graves? - Yes. 1541 01:31:14,845 --> 01:31:16,721 {\an8}- Grusch? - Yes, definitely. 1542 01:31:16,722 --> 01:31:19,557 {\an8}Do you have any personal knowledge of people who have been harmed or injured 1543 01:31:19,558 --> 01:31:23,603 {\an8}in efforts to cover up or conceal these extraterrestrial technology? 1544 01:31:23,604 --> 01:31:24,855 {\an8}Yes. 1545 01:31:26,732 --> 01:31:27,733 {\an8}Personally. 1546 01:31:28,984 --> 01:31:32,111 {\an8}Anyone been murdered that you know of? 1547 01:31:32,112 --> 01:31:33,446 {\an8}I have to be careful. 1548 01:31:33,447 --> 01:31:36,616 {\an8}I directed people with that knowledge to the appropriate authorities. 1549 01:31:36,617 --> 01:31:39,952 {\an8}There clearly is a threat to the national security 1550 01:31:39,953 --> 01:31:42,038 {\an8}of the United States of America. 1551 01:31:42,039 --> 01:31:43,706 {\an8} Brave witnesses here. 1552 01:31:43,707 --> 01:31:46,292 {\an8}They took an oath to uphold the constitution of the United States 1553 01:31:46,293 --> 01:31:49,421 {\an8}and dadgummit, they're doing it, and we owe them a debt of gratitude. 1554 01:31:55,052 --> 01:32:00,556 {\an8}On Capitol Hill today, a bipartisan call for more government transparency on UFOs. 1555 01:32:00,557 --> 01:32:05,728 {\an8}One was asked about alien bodies, two others talked about seeing UAPs. 1556 01:32:05,729 --> 01:32:09,815 {\an8}The US government operates a UFO crash retrieval program 1557 01:32:09,816 --> 01:32:15,196 {\an8}and has a UFO and the remains of "a non-human or non-human pilots 1558 01:32:15,197 --> 01:32:16,822 {\an8}in its possession." 1559 01:32:16,823 --> 01:32:21,035 And when Dave Grusch said the words non-human biologics, 1560 01:32:21,036 --> 01:32:22,536 there was an audible gasp. 1561 01:32:22,537 --> 01:32:27,375 I worked with David Grusch when we both contributed to the UAP task force, 1562 01:32:27,376 --> 01:32:31,379 and everything he said under oath to the Congress and what he put down 1563 01:32:31,380 --> 01:32:34,757 in his whistleblower complaint is 100% true. 1564 01:32:34,758 --> 01:32:38,719 {\an8}A Pentagon report is detailing a dramatic increase in UFO sightings. 1565 01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,889 The Pentagon released its report on UFO sightings today, 1566 01:32:41,890 --> 01:32:47,020 {\an8}saying an additional 366 sightings have been investigated since 2021. 1567 01:32:47,562 --> 01:32:50,982 {\an8}Now the Defense Department is admitting not just a couple of incidents, 1568 01:32:50,983 --> 01:32:52,525 hundreds of incidents, 1569 01:32:52,526 --> 01:32:55,361 scores of incidents with multiple sensor systems, 1570 01:32:55,362 --> 01:32:56,862 multiple witnesses. 1571 01:32:56,863 --> 01:33:01,659 A NASA task force is holding its first meeting on UFOs. 1572 01:33:01,660 --> 01:33:06,247 {\an8}NASA commissioned an independent study team to examine 1573 01:33:06,248 --> 01:33:09,417 {\an8}unidentified anomalous phenomena, 1574 01:33:09,418 --> 01:33:14,130 {\an8}and this is the first time that NASA has taken concrete action 1575 01:33:14,131 --> 01:33:16,841 {\an8}to seriously look into UAP. 1576 01:33:16,842 --> 01:33:20,177 {\an8}Are we alone? Personally, I don't think we are. 1577 01:33:20,178 --> 01:33:23,681 {\an8}I wasn't prepared for the number of incursions that I see. 1578 01:33:23,682 --> 01:33:28,769 {\an8}This merging capability outstrips the operational framework 1579 01:33:28,770 --> 01:33:31,148 that we have to address it. 1580 01:33:38,864 --> 01:33:42,658 {\an8} Since mankind first started developing atomic energy, 1581 01:33:42,659 --> 01:33:45,536 there has been consistent UAP activity 1582 01:33:45,537 --> 01:33:49,833 at sites involved with the atomic and nuclear process. 1583 01:33:52,336 --> 01:33:56,672 We have evolved more technically in the last 80 years 1584 01:33:56,673 --> 01:34:00,177 than we have in the previous 200,000 years. 1585 01:34:02,137 --> 01:34:06,015 And the uptick in UAP activity has increased in line 1586 01:34:06,016 --> 01:34:08,810 with our advancement of harnessing energy. 1587 01:34:10,854 --> 01:34:15,983 We realized we are on the path to exploiting the energy levels needed 1588 01:34:15,984 --> 01:34:20,029 to warp space-time, and UAP have been observing 1589 01:34:20,030 --> 01:34:23,449 and clearly been interested in our rapid progress. 1590 01:34:23,450 --> 01:34:28,996 Despite developing massively new technologies, 1591 01:34:28,997 --> 01:34:32,625 we don't see an equivalent moral increase 1592 01:34:32,626 --> 01:34:35,836 in how we deal with each other. 1593 01:34:35,837 --> 01:34:38,756 {\an8} We are still invading sovereign nations. 1594 01:34:38,757 --> 01:34:43,135 {\an8}We're still threatening nuclear war eighty years after dropping atomic bombs 1595 01:34:43,136 --> 01:34:46,932 that vaporized hundreds of thousands of human beings. 1596 01:34:47,599 --> 01:34:50,477 Let's face it, we are a violent species. 1597 01:34:52,104 --> 01:34:55,815 So if I were a species from somewhere else, 1598 01:34:55,816 --> 01:34:58,109 even if I were a hidden species on the planet 1599 01:34:58,110 --> 01:35:01,112 who saw how we were coming up this curve 1600 01:35:01,113 --> 01:35:04,990 of, you know, atomic energy and nuclear energy, 1601 01:35:04,991 --> 01:35:07,159 and then beginning to realize 1602 01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:09,745 what it takes to do their kind of technologies 1603 01:35:09,746 --> 01:35:14,166 with warping time and warping space and so on, 1604 01:35:14,167 --> 01:35:18,671 I can imagine that could be seen as a threat to another species 1605 01:35:18,672 --> 01:35:21,715 because they would recognize that once it's only a matter of time 1606 01:35:21,716 --> 01:35:23,217 and they're going to be doing what we're doing 1607 01:35:23,218 --> 01:35:24,593 and then we're gonna have to deal with them. 1608 01:35:24,594 --> 01:35:28,222 So it doesn't surprise me that their highest priority would be 1609 01:35:28,223 --> 01:35:32,268 to identify what threats they might face 1610 01:35:32,269 --> 01:35:34,228 to learn everything about them. 1611 01:35:34,229 --> 01:35:37,523 This pattern of activity seems to me utterly logical. 1612 01:35:37,524 --> 01:35:42,695 It seems to me to be an extension of the evolutionary process 1613 01:35:42,696 --> 01:35:45,573 that governs life writ large as we know it, 1614 01:35:45,574 --> 01:35:47,868 which is self-preservation is number one. 1615 01:35:49,870 --> 01:35:54,999 {\an8}When I hear stories of either nuclear weapons sites being shut down 1616 01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:58,127 {\an8}or turned on, what that tells me is something quite interesting. 1617 01:35:58,128 --> 01:36:01,755 First off is that something has a technology capable of reaching 1618 01:36:01,756 --> 01:36:04,758 into our nuclear weapons systems 1619 01:36:04,759 --> 01:36:07,470 at a distance in ways that we don't understand. 1620 01:36:07,471 --> 01:36:11,891 Okay, that's just capability. But you ask the question about intent, 1621 01:36:11,892 --> 01:36:13,934 at the very least, what it tells me 1622 01:36:13,935 --> 01:36:18,314 is that they're showing us what they can do to us at will 1623 01:36:18,315 --> 01:36:20,399 or with us or they can stop us. 1624 01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:25,070 Now, they didn't stop us from blowing something up in Japan. 1625 01:36:25,071 --> 01:36:27,114 They didn't stop the first of the bombs. 1626 01:36:27,115 --> 01:36:32,912 At some level, they're willing to let us see the consequences of our actions. 1627 01:36:32,913 --> 01:36:36,081 But at another level, they're willing to also show us that 1628 01:36:36,082 --> 01:36:41,003 "You might think that you could hurt us one day, but you can't." 1629 01:36:41,004 --> 01:36:46,800 "We really can just reach in and stop you or cause you to blow each other up." 1630 01:36:46,801 --> 01:36:48,969 "Because at the end of the day, you're getting in our way, 1631 01:36:48,970 --> 01:36:51,388 and you're really starting to annoy us." 1632 01:36:51,389 --> 01:36:55,309 So even though it has been reported that some of our fighter pilots 1633 01:36:55,310 --> 01:36:59,939 have chased these objects and even fired missiles at them, 1634 01:36:59,940 --> 01:37:03,234 there has not been some kind of strong negative retaliation. 1635 01:37:03,235 --> 01:37:06,737 So it'd be pretty easy to come to the conclusion they're friendly, 1636 01:37:06,738 --> 01:37:09,907 and that's fine, and there's no real threat there. 1637 01:37:09,908 --> 01:37:14,370 But the truth of the matter is, uh, you have to take into account, well, 1638 01:37:14,371 --> 01:37:16,956 under what condition, you know, that might change. 1639 01:37:16,957 --> 01:37:19,333 For example, if you have ants 1640 01:37:19,334 --> 01:37:22,461 at the back of your yard, uh, they're not a threat to you, 1641 01:37:22,462 --> 01:37:26,423 so that's fine, but if they come and invade your house, 1642 01:37:26,424 --> 01:37:28,092 suddenly they're a threat. 1643 01:37:28,093 --> 01:37:31,178 And so it could be the same in this situation. 1644 01:37:31,179 --> 01:37:35,225 So at least within the defense and intelligence industry, 1645 01:37:36,226 --> 01:37:41,063 we automatically assume the worst because we want to be prepared 1646 01:37:41,064 --> 01:37:43,524 against the worst if it should happen. 1647 01:37:43,525 --> 01:37:47,695 There's a concern within the defense and intelligence communities 1648 01:37:47,696 --> 01:37:51,699 that UAPs have been undertaking long-term surveillance 1649 01:37:51,700 --> 01:37:57,580 of human technological advancement for the possibility that they may need 1650 01:37:57,581 --> 01:38:02,793 to intervene to prevent a conflict between us and them. 1651 01:38:02,794 --> 01:38:07,423 {\an8}One of the reasons that I am so ardent about this issue is 1652 01:38:07,424 --> 01:38:11,343 {\an8}because I think it has the potential to change the perspective 1653 01:38:11,344 --> 01:38:16,515 and the outlook of world leaders and the populations of those countries 1654 01:38:16,516 --> 01:38:22,896 to see more of what we have in common and the challenges that we face together. 1655 01:38:22,897 --> 01:38:25,733 If we're gonna survive as a species, 1656 01:38:25,734 --> 01:38:31,113 we need unprecedented levels of international collaboration. 1657 01:38:31,114 --> 01:38:36,785 {\an8}I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide 1658 01:38:36,786 --> 01:38:41,916 {\an8}would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. 1659 01:38:59,809 --> 01:39:02,186 Thomas Jefferson once said, 1660 01:39:02,187 --> 01:39:05,981 {\an8}"I'm not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions." 1661 01:39:05,982 --> 01:39:09,318 {\an8}"But laws and institutions must go hand in hand 1662 01:39:09,319 --> 01:39:11,695 with the progress of the human mind." 1663 01:39:11,696 --> 01:39:14,406 "As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, 1664 01:39:14,407 --> 01:39:16,200 as new discoveries are made, 1665 01:39:16,201 --> 01:39:20,162 new truths discovered and manners and opinions change." 1666 01:39:20,163 --> 01:39:22,247 "With the change of circumstances, 1667 01:39:22,248 --> 01:39:27,462 institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times." 1668 01:39:28,963 --> 01:39:33,050 Our current Senate leadership feels the same as our founding fathers. 1669 01:39:33,051 --> 01:39:35,761 And throughout the fall of 2023, 1670 01:39:35,762 --> 01:39:38,222 my colleagues and I met with Senate leadership 1671 01:39:38,223 --> 01:39:40,516 to help give them clarity on the facts 1672 01:39:40,517 --> 01:39:45,313 as they fought for the most historic UAP legislation we've ever had. 1673 01:39:46,106 --> 01:39:50,401 Never in the history of our nation have we ever seen any type 1674 01:39:50,402 --> 01:39:55,280 of legislation regarding UAP that is as detailed and specific 1675 01:39:55,281 --> 01:39:57,408 and as directive as this one. 1676 01:39:57,409 --> 01:40:01,578 {\an8}United States government has gathered a great deal of information about UAPs 1677 01:40:01,579 --> 01:40:05,999 {\an8}over many decades, but has refused to share it with the American people. 1678 01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,962 {\an8}That is wrong, and additionally it breeds mistrust. 1679 01:40:09,963 --> 01:40:14,174 {\an8}There is, we believe, information and data that has been collected 1680 01:40:14,175 --> 01:40:16,468 {\an8}by more than just the Department of Defense, 1681 01:40:16,469 --> 01:40:19,972 {\an8}but by other agencies of the federal government as well. 1682 01:40:19,973 --> 01:40:23,434 Information on UAPs has also been withheld from Congress, 1683 01:40:23,435 --> 01:40:25,728 which was a violation of the laws requiring 1684 01:40:25,729 --> 01:40:27,896 full notification to the legislative branch. 1685 01:40:27,897 --> 01:40:33,736 The bill I worked on with Senator Rounds offered a common sense solution, 1686 01:40:33,737 --> 01:40:37,531 the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act. 1687 01:40:37,532 --> 01:40:41,952 {\an8}This would be the most aggressive measure that we've frankly ever seen 1688 01:40:41,953 --> 01:40:45,414 {\an8}in history when it comes to disclosure about what the government knows 1689 01:40:45,415 --> 01:40:48,375 {\an8}and has, as it relates to UAPs. 1690 01:40:48,376 --> 01:40:51,712 The measure would also give the federal government control 1691 01:40:51,713 --> 01:40:55,215 over all recovered technologies of unknown origin 1692 01:40:55,216 --> 01:40:59,303 and biological evidence of non-human intelligence. 1693 01:40:59,304 --> 01:41:03,640 Eminent domain allows the US government to take control of anything 1694 01:41:03,641 --> 01:41:05,434 for national security reasons 1695 01:41:05,435 --> 01:41:07,728 or for the betterment of the American people. 1696 01:41:07,729 --> 01:41:11,899 {\an8}A requirement as a transparency measure for the government to obtain 1697 01:41:11,900 --> 01:41:17,237 {\an8}any recovered UAP material or biological remains 1698 01:41:17,238 --> 01:41:21,158 {\an8}that may have been provided to private entities in the past 1699 01:41:21,159 --> 01:41:25,871 and thereby hidden from Congress and the American people. 1700 01:41:25,872 --> 01:41:30,959 The eminent domain section was not crafted accidentally. 1701 01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:35,380 It was designed to be put in there clearly to lay out our expectations. 1702 01:41:35,381 --> 01:41:38,759 Contractors may have information that they have held, 1703 01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:43,013 or materials that they have held over an extended period of time, 1704 01:41:43,014 --> 01:41:46,975 and this is our way of addressing it and making it clear 1705 01:41:46,976 --> 01:41:50,270 that it should be delivered in an appropriate fashion, 1706 01:41:50,271 --> 01:41:52,898 and that they need to be negotiating with us now. 1707 01:41:52,899 --> 01:41:55,442 {\an8}Their bipartisan plan for more transparency 1708 01:41:55,443 --> 01:41:58,111 {\an8}is getting some major pushback though. 1709 01:41:58,112 --> 01:42:02,533 {\an8}The, um, defense contractors give money legally 1710 01:42:02,534 --> 01:42:07,663 {\an8}to a lot of my colleagues that provide a great deal of the pushback on this. 1711 01:42:07,664 --> 01:42:11,333 There's a lot of money coming from the defense industry to support 1712 01:42:11,334 --> 01:42:13,043 elected officials with their campaigns. 1713 01:42:13,044 --> 01:42:15,879 And then when the time comes for these elected officials to try to get 1714 01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,257 to the bottom of things, they're compromised. 1715 01:42:18,258 --> 01:42:21,093 Something with the capabilities of traveling light years, 1716 01:42:21,094 --> 01:42:26,139 not showing a heat signature and the energy capabilities of that, 1717 01:42:26,140 --> 01:42:28,559 that would put the Pentagon out of business. 1718 01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:33,188 We wouldn't be fighting these worthless wars overseas over oil 1719 01:42:33,189 --> 01:42:35,232 and American boys and girls wouldn't be dying. 1720 01:42:35,233 --> 01:42:37,235 It would put war pigs out of business. 1721 01:42:38,236 --> 01:42:40,988 Unfortunately, there was too much resistance 1722 01:42:40,989 --> 01:42:46,286 and the most historic elements of the proposed legislation did not become law. 1723 01:42:47,579 --> 01:42:48,787 We've got a big mess on our hands. 1724 01:42:48,788 --> 01:42:51,290 We've got 80 years of lies and deception 1725 01:42:51,291 --> 01:42:53,750 that quite frankly ruined a lot of people's lives, 1726 01:42:53,751 --> 01:42:56,962 and nobody wants to take responsibility for that. 1727 01:42:56,963 --> 01:43:00,883 This is not an endeavor here to go out and punish anyone. 1728 01:43:00,884 --> 01:43:03,969 But nonetheless, we would need to know what they learnt, taxpayers paid for this. 1729 01:43:03,970 --> 01:43:07,306 And I think offering amnesty is extremely important. 1730 01:43:07,307 --> 01:43:10,475 Let the past stay in the past, then collectively move forward. 1731 01:43:10,476 --> 01:43:13,228 It's essential we keep working on our proposal. 1732 01:43:13,229 --> 01:43:18,108 I'd like to just acknowledge my dear friend, the late Harry Reid, 1733 01:43:18,109 --> 01:43:20,819 a mentor who cared about this issue a great deal. 1734 01:43:20,820 --> 01:43:22,988 So he's looking down and smiling on us, 1735 01:43:22,989 --> 01:43:26,325 but he's also importuning us to get the rest of this done, 1736 01:43:26,326 --> 01:43:29,161 which we will do everything we can to make happen. 1737 01:43:29,162 --> 01:43:33,373 But where there was smoke, there was a fire, and Congress is now aware of it. 1738 01:43:33,374 --> 01:43:38,922 And so what that allows us to do is circle the wagons and try again. 1739 01:43:43,718 --> 01:43:46,179 Welcome to today's historic hearing. 1740 01:43:47,305 --> 01:43:50,432 There are certain individuals who didn't want this hearing to happen 1741 01:43:50,433 --> 01:43:53,478 because they feared what might be disclosed. 1742 01:43:55,021 --> 01:43:59,232 Do you solemnly swear to affirm that the testimony that you are about to give 1743 01:43:59,233 --> 01:44:01,026 {\an8}is the truth, the whole truth, 1744 01:44:01,027 --> 01:44:03,862 {\an8}and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 1745 01:44:03,863 --> 01:44:05,405 {\an8} I do. 1746 01:44:05,406 --> 01:44:09,201 {\an8}Has the government conducted secret UAP crash retrieval programs? Yes or no? 1747 01:44:09,202 --> 01:44:10,410 {\an8}Yes. 1748 01:44:10,411 --> 01:44:13,830 {\an8}Were they designed to identify and reverse engineer alien craft, yes or no? 1749 01:44:13,831 --> 01:44:15,666 {\an8}Yes. 1750 01:44:15,667 --> 01:44:18,293 {\an8}Excessive secrecy has led to grave misdeeds 1751 01:44:18,294 --> 01:44:22,214 {\an8}against loyal civil servants, military personnel, and the public 1752 01:44:22,215 --> 01:44:26,468 {\an8}all to hide the fact that we are not alone in the cosmos. 1753 01:44:26,469 --> 01:44:29,012 {\an8}The US is in possession of UAP technologies, 1754 01:44:29,013 --> 01:44:31,056 {\an8}as are some of our adversaries. 1755 01:44:31,057 --> 01:44:34,518 {\an8}We are in the midst of a multi-decade secretive arms race. 1756 01:44:34,519 --> 01:44:37,896 {\an8}One funded by misallocated taxpayer dollars 1757 01:44:37,897 --> 01:44:41,984 {\an8}and hidden from our elected representatives and oversight bodies. 1758 01:44:41,985 --> 01:44:44,486 {\an8}Now that we know UAP are interacting with humanity, 1759 01:44:44,487 --> 01:44:46,196 {\an8}we should not turn a blind eye, 1760 01:44:46,197 --> 01:44:49,533 {\an8}but instead boldly face this new reality and learn from it. 1761 01:44:49,534 --> 01:44:52,619 {\an8}One of the most important actions that can be taken relative to exposing 1762 01:44:52,620 --> 01:44:56,123 {\an8}the truth of UAP is to combat the stigma. 1763 01:44:56,124 --> 01:45:00,544 {\an8}NASA personnel stepping forward and participating in such discussions 1764 01:45:00,545 --> 01:45:03,923 {\an8}would make a powerful statement to the scientific community 1765 01:45:04,048 --> 01:45:07,843 {\an8}that UAP should be taken seriously and researched accordingly. 1766 01:45:07,844 --> 01:45:09,594 {\an8}To the incoming administration and Congress, 1767 01:45:09,595 --> 01:45:12,973 {\an8}I say to you, we need immediate public transparency, 1768 01:45:12,974 --> 01:45:15,600 {\an8}and this hearing is an important step on that journey. 1769 01:45:15,601 --> 01:45:17,102 {\an8}The truth is out there. 1770 01:45:17,103 --> 01:45:21,232 {\an8}We just need to be bold enough and brave enough to face it. 1771 01:45:29,115 --> 01:45:31,491 America wants their pizzas in 30 minutes or less, 1772 01:45:31,492 --> 01:45:33,326 and that's about our attention span. 1773 01:45:33,327 --> 01:45:37,205 And I think the Legacy Program is, um-- 1774 01:45:37,206 --> 01:45:41,043 They think that America will draw its attention somewhere else, 1775 01:45:41,044 --> 01:45:42,919 and I just don't think that's the case. 1776 01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:44,379 I think we've let the fuse. 1777 01:45:44,380 --> 01:45:48,968 I think the American people are ready to receive the truth. 1778 01:45:52,638 --> 01:45:56,558 Sitting here in a Senate building 1779 01:45:56,559 --> 01:46:00,187 recognizing what change has been occurring, 1780 01:46:00,188 --> 01:46:03,607 I never thought I'd see this day come frankly. 1781 01:46:03,608 --> 01:46:06,026 And now that I see it here, 1782 01:46:06,027 --> 01:46:09,654 I am unbelievably hopeful 1783 01:46:09,655 --> 01:46:13,450 that it's going to filter down into our society 1784 01:46:13,451 --> 01:46:16,912 to where everyone realizes that the human species 1785 01:46:16,913 --> 01:46:22,417 is actually in a melting pot of many species throughout the galaxy. 1786 01:46:22,418 --> 01:46:25,003 What I expect to come out of that is, 1787 01:46:25,004 --> 01:46:28,799 first of all, a greater appreciation of what it means to be a human. 1788 01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:34,096 And to me, that kind of change on the human character 1789 01:46:34,097 --> 01:46:38,642 is probably more significant than what we can learn about 1790 01:46:38,643 --> 01:46:41,520 atoms and molecules and propulsion systems. 1791 01:46:41,521 --> 01:46:43,814 My grandchildren are going to grow up 1792 01:46:43,815 --> 01:46:46,441 taking into account and thinking about the fact 1793 01:46:46,442 --> 01:46:49,694 that the universe, uh, is full of life. 1794 01:46:49,695 --> 01:46:54,324 We're on the threshold of an entirely different understanding 1795 01:46:54,325 --> 01:46:57,119 of the universe and our place within it 1796 01:46:57,120 --> 01:47:01,414 and technological opportunities and possibilities 1797 01:47:01,415 --> 01:47:05,210 that were the stuff of science fiction just a few years ago. 1798 01:47:05,211 --> 01:47:07,337 The people behind the Legacy Program 1799 01:47:07,338 --> 01:47:10,465 truly believe that the secret is so intense 1800 01:47:10,466 --> 01:47:13,176 that they can't share it with the American people. 1801 01:47:13,177 --> 01:47:17,097 There may be aspects of this that are so intense they can't share it. 1802 01:47:17,098 --> 01:47:20,892 However, I think the basic fact that we are not alone in the universe, 1803 01:47:20,893 --> 01:47:22,561 we can share that with the American people. 1804 01:47:22,562 --> 01:47:24,062 We can handle it at this point. 1805 01:47:24,063 --> 01:47:27,732 Hopefully one day, the American people will learn the bigger story 1806 01:47:27,733 --> 01:47:29,317 and how it impacts us all. 1807 01:47:29,318 --> 01:47:32,612 I want to tell the American people what I know, 1808 01:47:32,613 --> 01:47:36,533 but I can't because a vast majority of it remains highly classified. 1809 01:47:36,534 --> 01:47:39,661 I feel tremendous pressure to share what I can 1810 01:47:39,662 --> 01:47:41,997 because I know there will come a time 1811 01:47:41,998 --> 01:47:44,792 where we all wish we had done things differently. 1812 01:47:46,127 --> 01:47:50,630 That moment is imminent, and when that moment comes, 1813 01:47:50,631 --> 01:47:54,677 I know people will say, "I wish somebody would've told me sooner." 1814 01:47:57,555 --> 01:48:00,640 Remember, as far as we've come, 1815 01:48:00,641 --> 01:48:05,103 we are still only just beginning the greatest paradigm shift 1816 01:48:05,104 --> 01:48:09,567 in human history, the age of disclosure. 172532

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