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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,779 --> 00:00:12,020 Tonight, the legendary death of John Dillinger, public enemy number one. 2 00:00:12,220 --> 00:00:17,600 The feds told the world they killed the infamous bank robber. They gunned him 3 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,660 down in public right outside a very crowded biograph theater. 4 00:00:21,940 --> 00:00:25,660 Dillinger was a folk hero. Upon his death, thousands of people came to view 5 00:00:25,660 --> 00:00:27,740 body and even mourn at his funeral. 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:33,460 But was the corpse in Chicago's Cook County morgue truly John Dillinger? 7 00:00:34,150 --> 00:00:38,350 His dad looked at the body and said, that's not my boy. 8 00:00:38,570 --> 00:00:43,590 Even at the funeral, there were whispers that this was not John Dillinger in 9 00:00:43,590 --> 00:00:48,590 that coffin. John Dillinger was an escape artist, and some say he pulled 10 00:00:48,590 --> 00:00:49,590 ultimate escape. 11 00:00:50,130 --> 00:00:56,270 Now, we'll explore the top theories surrounding the demise of one of 12 00:00:56,270 --> 00:00:57,630 most infamous gangsters. 13 00:00:58,410 --> 00:01:01,370 Did Dillinger set up a path scene to take the fall? 14 00:01:02,330 --> 00:01:07,490 After he was supposed to be dead, people claimed they saw Dillinger in several 15 00:01:07,490 --> 00:01:08,490 different states. 16 00:01:08,690 --> 00:01:15,210 Did the FBI really kill John Dillinger? And if they didn't, where did he go? 17 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:37,420 On his 31st birthday, June 22nd, 1934, John Dillinger is named America's 18 00:01:37,420 --> 00:01:40,080 very first public enemy number one. 19 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:46,780 Dillinger and his gang commit some 24 bank robberies across the Midwest, while 20 00:01:46,780 --> 00:01:50,180 stealing as much as $7 million in today's currency. 21 00:01:51,780 --> 00:01:57,320 In the throes of the Great Depression, Dillinger's daring crimes make him a 22 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:58,560 to millions of Americans. 23 00:01:59,230 --> 00:02:01,410 who blame banks for their struggles. 24 00:02:02,230 --> 00:02:03,490 In October 1933, 25 00:02:04,250 --> 00:02:07,790 Dillinger and some associates rob a bank in Greencastle, Indiana. 26 00:02:08,090 --> 00:02:14,630 As the story goes, there is near the bank teller a farmer who is just 27 00:02:14,630 --> 00:02:17,410 that these armed men have just stormed the bank. 28 00:02:17,730 --> 00:02:22,850 Had some cash sitting on the counter, and Dillinger said to the farmer, is 29 00:02:22,850 --> 00:02:25,750 your money or the bank's? And the farmer said, it's mine. 30 00:02:26,110 --> 00:02:28,330 And Dillinger said, keep it. 31 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:29,880 We only want the banks. 32 00:02:30,620 --> 00:02:37,460 So those seven words were what made him into the anti -hero Robin 33 00:02:37,460 --> 00:02:42,020 Hood and kind of somebody who really got the attention of the entire country. 34 00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:47,740 For Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who is newly elected, this could be a 35 00:02:47,740 --> 00:02:48,740 huge problem. 36 00:02:49,610 --> 00:02:54,530 Hardcore criminals who are robbing banks with guns are considered folk heroes. 37 00:02:54,790 --> 00:02:59,750 And FDR instructs J. Edgar Hoover to put a stop to it. 38 00:03:00,090 --> 00:03:06,170 I repeat that this is a time when law enforcement must fight for its right to 39 00:03:06,170 --> 00:03:07,830 conquer the criminal world. 40 00:03:08,130 --> 00:03:11,650 At this point, the Bureau is only about 25 years old. It's relatively young. 41 00:03:11,890 --> 00:03:15,570 And its powers are somewhat limited. Its agents can't carry guns. 42 00:03:16,030 --> 00:03:18,270 At this point, they're not really empowered to make arrests. 43 00:03:18,610 --> 00:03:23,870 And most significantly, they are only allowed to punish federal crimes. 44 00:03:24,170 --> 00:03:28,070 State crime falls within the jurisdiction of the states. Hoover would 45 00:03:28,070 --> 00:03:31,670 to have done something about it. Doing something about it would be great for 46 00:03:31,670 --> 00:03:35,910 own reputation and the reputation of his Division of Investigation. But yeah, 47 00:03:35,970 --> 00:03:40,450 there is no federal law that Dillinger has broken in 1933. 48 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:48,280 Then, in 1934, after killing a police officer during a bank robbery in East 49 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:54,380 Chicago, Indiana, John Dillinger's gang flees to a hotel in Tucson, Arizona. 50 00:03:54,780 --> 00:03:59,800 When a random fire breaks out, firefighters find Dillinger's stash of 51 00:03:59,980 --> 00:04:06,400 bulletproof vests, and $25 ,000 in cash stolen from the East Chicago robbery. 52 00:04:06,740 --> 00:04:11,720 Within days, Dillinger is captured by local police and arrested. 53 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:17,279 There are a number of states that want him extradited. And Indiana wins because 54 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,660 it is in Indiana that Dillinger shoots a police officer. 55 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:27,740 Dillinger is sent to Lake County Jail in Crown Point, Indiana, which is, 56 00:04:27,940 --> 00:04:30,480 according to many, escape proof. 57 00:04:30,700 --> 00:04:36,720 On March 3, 1934, after less than three months in jail, Dillinger escaped. 58 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,900 using a fake pistol. 59 00:04:42,580 --> 00:04:47,640 Dillinger carved a fake gun either out of potato, a bar of soap, or a piece of 60 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,680 wood that he blackened with shoe polish. 61 00:04:49,900 --> 00:04:52,540 There are also some who believe that it was a real gun. 62 00:04:52,900 --> 00:04:57,720 For a prisoner to use a fake gun has led to a number of alternative theories. 63 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,960 One is that he might have, in fact, bribed the guards. 64 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:04,380 Dillinger's prison break. 65 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,780 gives J. Edgar Hoover the opportunity he's been looking for. 66 00:05:09,060 --> 00:05:11,940 After his escape, he steals the sheriff's car. 67 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,400 And by stealing the sheriff's car and going across state lines, that is a 68 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,400 federal crime. 69 00:05:17,860 --> 00:05:24,460 Now J. Edgar Hoover has the authority and the jurisdiction to stick his 70 00:05:24,460 --> 00:05:26,080 agent on John Dillinger. 71 00:05:29,180 --> 00:05:31,980 Six weeks after Dillinger's prison escape... 72 00:05:32,250 --> 00:05:37,710 Hoover's agent in charge, Melvin Purvis, is at the Bureau's Chicago office when 73 00:05:37,710 --> 00:05:39,370 he gets a call from a tipster. 74 00:05:40,050 --> 00:05:45,130 According to FBI records, the tipster is a relative of Emil Winotka, who's the 75 00:05:45,130 --> 00:05:49,070 proprietor of a vacation lodge in northern Wisconsin called The Little 76 00:05:49,450 --> 00:05:53,070 And the tip is an exciting one. It suggests that Dillinger and some of his 77 00:05:53,070 --> 00:05:54,930 associates are holed up there. 78 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:02,560 Melvin Purvis calls in agents from all over, and they descend on this lodge 79 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,420 after dark, and they wait for Dillinger. 80 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,400 But the takedown doesn't go as planned. 81 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:16,420 When three men emerge from the lodge and get into a car, the agents open fire, 82 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:22,560 killing one man and wounding his two companions. 83 00:06:23,630 --> 00:06:25,730 There is this barrage of guns. 84 00:06:27,410 --> 00:06:32,390 Only in its aftermath does Purvis realize that they have made a terrible 85 00:06:32,390 --> 00:06:33,390 mistake. 86 00:06:34,030 --> 00:06:38,830 All of this confusion is going on, and then they find out that the three men 87 00:06:38,830 --> 00:06:42,730 that were shot, one of whom died, had nothing to do with the gang. They were 88 00:06:42,730 --> 00:06:45,390 just three innocent guests who were staying at the lodge. 89 00:06:46,250 --> 00:06:47,450 At this point... 90 00:06:47,820 --> 00:06:52,300 Dillinger and all his men know that something's going on outside, and 91 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:56,520 pretty much goes out the windows and out the back door, and not a single one of 92 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,760 them were caught. None of them were killed. None of them were wounded, even. 93 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:05,340 bad press from this little Bohemia incident was yet another black eye to J. 94 00:07:05,420 --> 00:07:06,159 Edgar Hoover. 95 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:12,100 He and Melvin Purvis are both in danger of losing their jobs, and it is really 96 00:07:12,100 --> 00:07:17,080 from that point on that the order regarding John Dillinger is shoot to 97 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,440 It was necessary for local law enforcement officers somewhere in the 98 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:28,600 States to each day, every day of the year, protect their own lives by 99 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:29,600 to kill. 100 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:36,240 Three months after the Little Bohemia disaster, Agent Purvis and his men chase 101 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,640 man they claim is Dillinger into an alley next to the Biograph Theater in 102 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,420 Chicago and shoot him dead. 103 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,720 Word quickly spread. 104 00:07:47,470 --> 00:07:52,570 It's Dillinger. The public was enthralled by the idea. They rushed to 105 00:07:52,710 --> 00:07:56,730 crowded into what should have been a crime scene. And as they're loading the 106 00:07:56,730 --> 00:08:00,810 body up into a police wagon, there is a puddle of blood left in the alleyway. 107 00:08:00,930 --> 00:08:05,490 Right there on the bricks, everybody can see it. So everyone starts rushing in 108 00:08:05,490 --> 00:08:10,090 with whatever they've got, handkerchiefs, shirt sleeves, anything 109 00:08:10,090 --> 00:08:13,230 dipping it in the blood so they can take home a souvenir. 110 00:08:14,380 --> 00:08:17,600 The body is publicly displayed in Chicago. 111 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:23,720 Over 15 ,000 curious spectators come to see the outlaw's body. 112 00:08:23,980 --> 00:08:27,960 People flooded down to the Cook County Hospital. They were peering in the 113 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,460 window, shouting. People were trying to sell tickets. 114 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,460 They just wanted to be part of history. 115 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,000 The story shared by J. Edgar Hoover and the Bureau is the most commonly accepted 116 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,799 one. That the man killed outside the biograph was John Dillinger. 117 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,780 But just how did federal agents know where to find Dillinger? 118 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,140 The generally accepted explanation is one offered by Hoover himself. 119 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,620 It starts with a Chicago madam named Anna Sage. 120 00:08:58,500 --> 00:09:01,620 Anna Sage is running a couple of brothels in the area. 121 00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:07,660 She is an immigrant to the United States from Romania. She was a lady of the 122 00:09:07,660 --> 00:09:12,770 evening. facing possible deportation. And so what better way to get in the 123 00:09:12,770 --> 00:09:17,230 graces of the police department and the Bureau of Investigation than to give up 124 00:09:17,230 --> 00:09:19,050 public enemy number one? 125 00:09:19,470 --> 00:09:24,450 She has a friend on the East Chicago Police Force, a Martin Zarkovich, who 126 00:09:24,450 --> 00:09:27,690 ultimately then connects her with the Bureau of Investigation. 127 00:09:27,990 --> 00:09:30,910 On or around July 19th, Sage meets with Purvis. 128 00:09:31,210 --> 00:09:35,010 When I learned he was Dillinger, I knew he had been killing without mercy. 129 00:09:35,770 --> 00:09:39,310 So I went to a policeman I knew, and he arranged a conference with a government 130 00:09:39,310 --> 00:09:44,590 agent. She tells Purvis that Dillinger has been hanging out with a woman she 131 00:09:44,590 --> 00:09:46,870 knows named Polly Hamilton. 132 00:09:47,870 --> 00:09:52,010 So Anna Sage says, okay, he's going to be at the Biograph Theater this 133 00:09:52,010 --> 00:09:56,230 particular night with me, with Polly. What I'm going to do is I'm going to 134 00:09:56,230 --> 00:09:59,050 an orange dress so that you can see me in the crowd. 135 00:09:59,370 --> 00:10:03,330 Well, Purvis, of course, you know, this is almost too good to be true. And so 136 00:10:03,330 --> 00:10:09,870 then on the night of July 22nd, Anna Sage, Polly Hamilton, they show up at 137 00:10:09,870 --> 00:10:11,790 Biograph Theater with John Dillinger. 138 00:10:12,070 --> 00:10:17,370 Purvis and his agent, along with a couple of East Chicago cops, go to the 139 00:10:17,370 --> 00:10:20,790 Biograph Theater to apprehend or execute John Dillinger. 140 00:10:21,570 --> 00:10:27,530 Purvis is stationed outside of Sinema so that when Sage... 141 00:10:28,170 --> 00:10:32,310 and Pauly and Dillinger emerge, he lights a cigar. 142 00:10:32,770 --> 00:10:37,790 This is the signal to his men that it's Dillinger and they're to take him down. 143 00:10:38,170 --> 00:10:43,750 Now, according to Melvin Purvis, he shouted out, stop there, Johnny, we've 144 00:10:43,750 --> 00:10:44,750 you surrounded. 145 00:10:45,050 --> 00:10:50,790 Then Dillinger reaches into his pocket, grabs a gun, begins running down the 146 00:10:50,790 --> 00:10:55,690 street, gets to the mouth of the alley where he is shot to death by unnamed 147 00:10:55,690 --> 00:10:56,730 federal agents. 148 00:10:58,830 --> 00:11:03,450 and dies there in the alleyway. The body is brought to the Cook County Morgue, 149 00:11:03,450 --> 00:11:09,790 where pathologist Jerome J. Kearns identifies it in his autopsy report as 150 00:11:09,790 --> 00:11:10,790 Dillinger. 151 00:11:13,110 --> 00:11:18,650 The coroner declares, yes, this is the body of John Dillinger, which is, of 152 00:11:18,650 --> 00:11:23,090 course, a huge victory for J. Edgar Hoover, who had just had a series of 153 00:11:23,090 --> 00:11:26,730 failures prior to this, and it launches Melvin Purvis. 154 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:33,040 into celebrity status dillinger is packed up sent to indiana where his 155 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:38,300 has come to claim the body as more and more things started to come out 156 00:11:38,300 --> 00:11:43,700 started to be asked about the official story according to some who were on hand 157 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:47,360 his father originally said that's not my son 158 00:11:48,490 --> 00:11:53,970 His sister, Audrey, said something similar, but then they turned his body 159 00:11:54,050 --> 00:11:59,010 and there was a scar on the back of his thigh that she said, oh, that is him, 160 00:11:59,150 --> 00:12:03,230 because when they were kids, he gashed his leg open on barbed wire. 161 00:12:03,750 --> 00:12:09,470 Similar to events in Chicago, crowds flock to Dillinger's viewing in Indiana 162 00:12:09,470 --> 00:12:12,750 see his embalmed corpse before it's interred. 163 00:12:12,990 --> 00:12:16,590 The funeral home is overwhelmed by curious onlookers. 164 00:12:17,100 --> 00:12:22,240 There were even offers to the father of up to $10 ,000 to publicly display John 165 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,240 Dillinger's body. 166 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,020 And that was one thing that John Dillinger's father did not want to do. 167 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,560 At this point, there was a real threat of grave robbery. 168 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:37,440 And so they encased his coffin in cement to prevent such a thing from ever 169 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:44,020 transpiring. However, not everyone believes that John Dillinger is the 170 00:12:44,020 --> 00:12:45,280 that is lying in that grave. 171 00:12:48,910 --> 00:12:53,590 Three days after the killing at the Biograph Theater, the body of the man 172 00:12:53,590 --> 00:12:58,890 down by federal agents is buried at Crown Hill Cemetery in Mooresville, 173 00:12:59,390 --> 00:13:03,650 We know that the shooting of John Dillinger happened a little after 10 p 174 00:13:03,650 --> 00:13:07,070 and we know that there was an autopsy in Chicago. 175 00:13:07,510 --> 00:13:12,770 Once the family was able to get the body, now they had to drive six hours to 176 00:13:12,770 --> 00:13:16,150 Indiana for what ultimately became a wake. 177 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,260 A viewing and a burial. 178 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,620 All of this happened in less than 48 hours. 179 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,260 What was the rush? 180 00:13:25,620 --> 00:13:32,380 They got that body in the ground in an awful hurry. And the suspicion then is 181 00:13:32,380 --> 00:13:37,160 that maybe they did that because they knew that the body did not belong to 182 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:38,160 Dillinger. 183 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:47,200 Before the burial, the viewing is held at the Harvey Funeral Home in 184 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,520 hometown of Mooresville. 185 00:13:49,060 --> 00:13:54,620 As family members and mourners file past the deceased, whispers begin that the 186 00:13:54,620 --> 00:13:57,720 man in the coffin isn't John Dillinger. 187 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:03,100 A barber in Indiana who claims to be familiar with Dillinger has cut his 188 00:14:03,260 --> 00:14:09,040 looks at the corpse and says, no, that's not him because Dillinger's hair was 189 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,040 not that dark. 190 00:14:10,730 --> 00:14:14,850 And then this leads to other claims about the proportions of the body. 191 00:14:15,090 --> 00:14:19,250 According to an author named J. Robert Nash, in a book called The Dillinger 192 00:14:19,250 --> 00:14:24,530 Dossier, John Dillinger's father goes to buy him a suit for his funeral. But 193 00:14:24,530 --> 00:14:28,690 once the suit was put on him, it was completely the wrong size. They say that 194 00:14:28,690 --> 00:14:31,210 the sleeves obliterated the hands. 195 00:14:31,770 --> 00:14:36,130 It was also reported that the body's fingerprints didn't match Dillinger's 196 00:14:36,130 --> 00:14:39,550 fingerprints that were in a police file. And one of the ears? 197 00:14:40,010 --> 00:14:45,490 was a little bit off as well. According to this theory, the other big issue was 198 00:14:45,490 --> 00:14:51,010 that John was missing his right incisor tooth, but the corpse wasn't. 199 00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:57,570 It was reported that on the scene, when Melvin Purvis first turns over the body, 200 00:14:57,790 --> 00:15:00,810 he says out loud, this doesn't look like Dillinger. 201 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,680 Then realizing that there are a lot of spectators around that heard him, he 202 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:10,740 rather loudly says, ah, yes, that's a great bit of plastic surgery, that. And 203 00:15:10,740 --> 00:15:14,660 some people say John Dillinger, along with a lot of other gangsters from this 204 00:15:14,660 --> 00:15:18,300 era, did frequently undergo plastic surgery. 205 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:23,920 A doctor named Wilhelm Lozier even claims he helped Dillinger change his 206 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,900 appearance. The person who allegedly had performed the plastic surgery on John 207 00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:32,570 Dillinger was Dr. Lozier, and he had been connected with... crime groups for 208 00:15:32,570 --> 00:15:33,570 number of years. 209 00:15:33,950 --> 00:15:39,130 Dr. Wilhelm Lozier practiced in Chicago for nearly three decades before being 210 00:15:39,130 --> 00:15:42,970 convicted in 1931 for dealing in illegal narcotics. 211 00:15:43,450 --> 00:15:46,850 He was paroled from prison in December of 1932. 212 00:15:47,390 --> 00:15:52,870 Less than two years later, he claims he is summoned to work on Dillinger. 213 00:15:53,290 --> 00:15:58,090 Lozier confesses to having performed plastic surgery on Dillinger between May 214 00:15:58,090 --> 00:16:02,420 28th and June 5th. He admitted to the fact that over several months that he 215 00:16:02,420 --> 00:16:06,800 worked on Dillinger, especially his facial appearance, but even using acid 216 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,920 alter his fingerprints. He had moles removed. 217 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:15,140 He had scars fixed. He had the cleft in his chin, which was one of his most 218 00:16:15,140 --> 00:16:16,140 distinguishing features. 219 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,720 The cleft was filled in. 220 00:16:17,940 --> 00:16:23,640 The official autopsy report, written by Dr. Jerome Kern, raises even more 221 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,060 questions about the man killed at the Biograph Theater. 222 00:16:26,740 --> 00:16:31,480 In his report... Dr. Kearns notes that Dillinger's eyes were brown. 223 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,720 Now, this contradicts Dillinger's naval records, which lift his eyes as blue, 224 00:16:36,820 --> 00:16:42,480 and wanted posters for Dillinger, which described his eyes as being gray. 225 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,980 The autopsy revealed that he had a heart problem, but... 226 00:16:49,230 --> 00:16:50,710 Dillinger was an athletic guy. 227 00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:56,090 John Dillinger played on the semi -pro team when he was at the penitentiary in 228 00:16:56,090 --> 00:17:00,690 Michigan City. And even the governor of Indiana remarked about what a great 229 00:17:00,690 --> 00:17:02,790 player he was at shortstop. 230 00:17:03,050 --> 00:17:07,829 He was very athletic. Look at the bank robberies that he committed, the jumping 231 00:17:07,829 --> 00:17:11,329 over the counters and the running and the getting into cars. 232 00:17:11,530 --> 00:17:15,869 And these are all things that whoever this dead man was could not have done. 233 00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:17,069 Is it possible? 234 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,160 That someone else was killed in place of Dillinger? 235 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:30,060 According to Nash, there is another man named Jimmy Lawrence living in Chicago 236 00:17:30,060 --> 00:17:34,420 at the same time as Dillinger. He is a small -time crook. He had moved there 237 00:17:34,420 --> 00:17:35,420 from Wisconsin. 238 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:42,600 He does have a striking resemblance to John Dillinger, and he also has a heart 239 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,180 condition identical to the one that is noted on the autopsy report. 240 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:52,160 According to author and investigator J. Robert Nash, Jimmy Lawrence becomes key 241 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,520 to Dillinger's plan to outfox the FBI. 242 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,700 It was after Little Bohemian. 243 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,300 Dillinger is seriously thinking about getting away. 244 00:18:01,620 --> 00:18:08,520 One of Dillinger's last associates, a guy named James Blackie Audet, he says 245 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:15,140 that John Dillinger paid a man named Jimmy Lawrence thousands of dollars to 246 00:18:15,140 --> 00:18:20,340 convince... Polly Hamilton and Anna Sage, that he was, in fact, the infamous 247 00:18:20,340 --> 00:18:21,720 outlaw, John Dillinger. 248 00:18:22,460 --> 00:18:28,460 According to Blackie Audet, it is not Dillinger, but Lawrence, who ends up 249 00:18:28,460 --> 00:18:33,000 accompanying Sage and Hamilton to the Biograph Theater, and who ends up shot 250 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,780 dead in the alley outside. 251 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:41,700 After Dillinger is supposedly killed, then this Jimmy Lawrence disappears. 252 00:18:41,980 --> 00:18:43,240 It's never heard from again. 253 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,440 But that... 254 00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:49,370 In theory, it requires us to answer other questions. 255 00:18:49,870 --> 00:18:53,030 Chief among them, what happened to the real John Dillinger? 256 00:18:56,530 --> 00:19:01,570 Despite the FBI's certainty that their agents killed John Dillinger outside the 257 00:19:01,570 --> 00:19:07,590 Biograph Theater on the night of July 22, 1934, some, like author J. Robert 258 00:19:07,590 --> 00:19:11,030 Nash, insist the dead man wasn't actually Dillinger. 259 00:19:11,250 --> 00:19:13,610 Instead, the outlaw had a plan. 260 00:19:14,010 --> 00:19:20,970 to fool the fbi and he had help nash claims that dillinger knew the agents 261 00:19:20,970 --> 00:19:25,610 had an order to shoot to kill he also knew that hoover wasn't going to give 262 00:19:25,610 --> 00:19:32,310 the chance to embarrass the bureau again in order for john dillinger to 263 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:38,840 successfully create this plan he absolutely would need the help of local 264 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:43,060 enforcement. And many people know exactly who that individual would be. 265 00:19:43,060 --> 00:19:49,980 the individual who put Anna Sage in contact with Melvin Purvis, a known 266 00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:53,940 entity on the East Chicago Police Force named Martin Zarkovic. 267 00:19:58,140 --> 00:20:05,080 East Chicago is in Lake County, Indiana, about 25 miles south of Chicago along 268 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:05,949 the lake. 269 00:20:05,950 --> 00:20:11,030 It is an industrial town with fights like prostitution and gambling that is 270 00:20:11,030 --> 00:20:12,510 controlled by the Chicago mob. 271 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:17,990 Rumors are rampant in East Chicago that not only Zarkovich, but his captain, 272 00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:21,330 Timothy O 'Neill, that they're taking orders from the Chicago mob. 273 00:20:22,130 --> 00:20:27,510 Allegedly, they have contacts within the local prostitution circles that would, 274 00:20:27,550 --> 00:20:28,790 of course, include Anna Thage. 275 00:20:29,150 --> 00:20:34,170 Anna Thage was known to run a call girl service in Chicago, one of her clients 276 00:20:34,170 --> 00:20:35,750 being... John Dillinger. 277 00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:40,610 The motive for for Zarkovich was he was being paid off by Dillinger to fake 278 00:20:40,610 --> 00:20:45,890 Dillinger's death. According to this theory, Zarkovich got Anastasia 279 00:20:46,170 --> 00:20:51,490 He sends her to Melvin Purvis and then, you know, maneuvers himself into the 280 00:20:51,490 --> 00:20:55,050 whole thing, too. So I went to a policeman I knew and he arranged a 281 00:20:55,050 --> 00:20:56,130 with the government agent. 282 00:20:56,700 --> 00:21:01,520 According to Nash, Anna Sage knew who Jimmy Lawrence was, she knew that he was 283 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,340 going to be set up to be John Dillinger, and she knew that he would also take 284 00:21:05,340 --> 00:21:10,280 the fall for John Dillinger as well. Melvin Purvis had never seen John 285 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,160 in person, so he could have easily have been fooled by a decoy. 286 00:21:15,740 --> 00:21:20,420 According to FBI records, when the man with Anna Sage and Polly Hamilton sees 287 00:21:20,420 --> 00:21:24,980 law enforcement closing in on him, he grabs a pistol from his pocket and runs 288 00:21:24,980 --> 00:21:25,980 toward the alley. 289 00:21:27,020 --> 00:21:32,200 According to FBI account, three Bureau of Investigation agents shoot him. 290 00:21:32,940 --> 00:21:37,720 Five shots fired, three strikes the man in the alley outside. 291 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,019 When Dr. 292 00:21:39,020 --> 00:21:44,140 Kearns was conducting the autopsy, he stated that the fatal shot hit him in 293 00:21:44,140 --> 00:21:48,100 back of the neck, it exited out his right eye, and he fell. 294 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,900 Now, there are stories that claim that he was executed. 295 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,900 In the alley, because of the angle of the bullet. 296 00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:02,720 J. Robert Nash contends that the angle at which the bullet is entering suggests 297 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:08,460 it's an execution -style shot, because the kill shot travels and exits upward, 298 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,300 which again suggests that you're not going to be standing up. He would have 299 00:22:12,300 --> 00:22:15,920 to have already been on the ground for the bullet to exit through that specific 300 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:16,920 trajectory. 301 00:22:17,380 --> 00:22:22,540 The three agents who the FBI say shot at Dillinger never indicate who fired the 302 00:22:22,540 --> 00:22:23,540 fatal bullet. 303 00:22:23,850 --> 00:22:30,210 But some say it wasn't one of the feds. It was two of the East Chicago cops on 304 00:22:30,210 --> 00:22:31,390 the detail that night. 305 00:22:32,550 --> 00:22:38,070 Didn't anyone wonder why at the Biograph Theater that night there were federal 306 00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:44,730 agents there and East Chicago policemen, not Chicago policemen, who had no idea 307 00:22:44,730 --> 00:22:45,730 this was going on? 308 00:22:45,910 --> 00:22:50,290 It's possible that they were building this plan for Jimmy Lawrence to die in 309 00:22:50,290 --> 00:22:51,370 John Dillinger's place. 310 00:22:52,140 --> 00:22:58,700 According to Nash, when Melvin Purvis gives the sign, Zarkovich and O 'Neal 311 00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:04,700 move in, pushing this man into the alley and down to the ground, firing on him 312 00:23:04,700 --> 00:23:11,440 while he is prone, execution style, really eliminating any possibility that 313 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,280 this patsy Jimmy Lawrence would live to tell his tale. 314 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:21,560 Zarkovich gets $5 ,000 in federal reward money for his role at the Biograph. 315 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,980 in addition to any money he allegedly may have gotten from Dillinger. 316 00:23:26,500 --> 00:23:32,700 Meanwhile, some believe John Dillinger, very much alive, continues his plan to 317 00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:34,120 dupe Hoover's FBI. 318 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,240 Shortly after the Biograph shooting, according to John Dillinger's good buddy 319 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:44,040 Blackie Audette, Blackie Audette goes to a cabin in Illinois and meets up with 320 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,040 John Dillinger. 321 00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:49,960 Blackie Audette said to him, OK, John, you're dead. Let's get the hell out of 322 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,300 here. And that Dillinger said, there's one thing I want to take care of first. 323 00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:56,200 don't want anyone digging up that body. 324 00:23:56,460 --> 00:24:01,380 So a few days later, Dillinger's dad arrives with a concrete truck and 325 00:24:01,380 --> 00:24:05,260 this coffin in concrete and in steel to make sure that nobody can dig up this 326 00:24:05,260 --> 00:24:09,620 body. John Dillinger's family, you know, were farmers. His dad didn't have a lot 327 00:24:09,620 --> 00:24:10,239 of money. 328 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,000 So the question that begs to be asked and answered is, where did he get the 329 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,940 money to encase this casket in cement? 330 00:24:17,180 --> 00:24:19,780 As if this story wasn't audacious. 331 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:27,140 Enough. Audette takes it a step further and claims he and Dillinger joined the 332 00:24:27,140 --> 00:24:32,320 crew of workmen who buried the body and then encased it in cement. 333 00:24:32,940 --> 00:24:35,760 But what about Dillinger's sister, Audrey? 334 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,020 She identified the body as her brother's after seeing a telltale scar. 335 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:46,200 Maybe the sister and the father both realized that was not John Dillinger and 336 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,960 they were just trying to cover the fact. 337 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,800 that maybe John Dillinger was still very much alive. 338 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:58,120 Was public enemy number one John Dillinger taken out by the FBI in 1934? 339 00:24:58,300 --> 00:25:02,180 Or did he pull off a brilliant escape? 340 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,040 If Dillinger did flee, where did he go? 341 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:11,000 A letter received in Indiana in 1959 offers a possible clue. 342 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,240 25 years after the alleged assassination, the Indianapolis Star 343 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:22,960 receives a letter from someone claiming to be John Dillinger and his postmarked 344 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,040 Hollywood, California. 345 00:25:28,340 --> 00:25:33,560 The author of the letters claims that he knew the FBI was setting a trap for him 346 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:38,120 and that he knew that Jimmy Lawrence was the man killed at the Biograph Theater. 347 00:25:38,260 --> 00:25:42,820 The letter read, although the body was identified as mine, The face and 348 00:25:42,820 --> 00:25:44,340 fingerprint did not match. 349 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,940 To prove the fact, I am sending a photo of John Dillinger as he appears today. 350 00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:55,360 And he enclosed a photograph, which, I'll be honest with you, it looks an 351 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:57,140 lot like an older John Dillinger. 352 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,120 A few years later, though, another letter shows up. Now, this one shows up 353 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:08,240 the Little Bohemia Lodge. In the letter, the writer says, I'm sending a letter. 354 00:26:08,750 --> 00:26:12,090 And photo of Dillinger as he looks today. 355 00:26:12,290 --> 00:26:18,590 The man shot was James Lawrence, who told the woman in red that he was 356 00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:24,210 Dillinger. This letter, like the previous one that was sent in 1959, also 357 00:26:24,210 --> 00:26:29,230 photo of someone who has a bit of a resemblance to an older John Dillinger. 358 00:26:29,230 --> 00:26:32,210 this one is also addressed from Hollywood, California. 359 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:38,080 The handwriting in both letters is compared to a 1929 letter Dillinger 360 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,040 his family while he was locked up at an Indiana reformatory. 361 00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:46,120 The handwriting in both of these letters from Hollywood, California, was 362 00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:50,300 compared to a John Dillinger letter that was written in 1929. 363 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:56,460 And unfortunately, it's inconclusive. Some handwriting experts say it matches, 364 00:26:56,660 --> 00:26:58,680 and some say it doesn't. 365 00:26:59,790 --> 00:27:04,450 There may be additional evidence to support the idea that Dillinger lived a 366 00:27:04,450 --> 00:27:09,030 quiet, anonymous life in California, starting with the recollections of a man 367 00:27:09,030 --> 00:27:10,730 named Russell Lee Clark. 368 00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:17,570 Russell Lee Clark is the last surviving member of Dillinger's gang. 369 00:27:17,850 --> 00:27:22,950 Nash interviews him just after he gets out of prison in 1968, which turns out 370 00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:24,290 be four months before he dies. 371 00:27:24,570 --> 00:27:28,450 Clark robbed banks with Dillinger from October of 33 to January of 34. 372 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,900 before he was arrested and sentenced to life in prison, four months before the 373 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:34,900 Biograph shooting took place. 374 00:27:35,460 --> 00:27:39,060 Now, Russell Lee Clark says, I've been in touch with his sister, Audrey. 375 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,700 We've been communicating, and she's been going to California quite a bit. 376 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:50,300 Clark then asks, why is it that Audrey spends so much time visiting California 377 00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:55,420 when she has no known relations in the state? 378 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,320 During his interview, he told him that John Dillinger was living in La Puente, 379 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,900 California, which is about 20 miles outside of Los Angeles. 380 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,860 The big question is, where is John Dillinger? We feel him to be in the Los 381 00:28:08,860 --> 00:28:12,180 Angeles area, and quite probably alive today. 382 00:28:13,820 --> 00:28:18,120 Intrigued, Nash travels to La Puente to follow up on Clark's lead. 383 00:28:18,860 --> 00:28:23,700 La Puente, it's a place where people could disappear to. And this was not all 384 00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:24,319 that uncommon. 385 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,840 People who could get away would disappear and live under an assumed 386 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:33,420 Nash says he follows this lead up, going all the way to La Puente, where he 387 00:28:33,420 --> 00:28:38,600 gathers evidence that he says proves that Dillinger is there. 388 00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:45,000 He finds a man who somewhat matches the description, who is working as a 389 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,000 machinist. 390 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,880 On one of Dillinger's old wanted posters, indeed, one of his professions 391 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,560 listed as machinist. 392 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,220 Nash meets him in a dark room. This man who tells him that he's John Dillinger 393 00:28:59,220 --> 00:29:03,880 and now he's a machinist in California, that he hadn't really been killed at the 394 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,880 Biograph Theater. 395 00:29:04,980 --> 00:29:07,660 It raises many questions. 396 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:13,800 Why go to all of the trouble of faking your death and then establishing a new 397 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,960 life only to invite attention? 398 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:22,180 onto yourself, to begin to send letters and photographs to people who would then 399 00:29:22,180 --> 00:29:27,740 publicize them, almost inviting people like Nash to track you down, inviting 400 00:29:27,740 --> 00:29:33,520 perhaps the FBI to track you down. What if you were not worried about the FBI 401 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,360 finally tracking you down? Because you know they're never going to pursue this. 402 00:29:38,580 --> 00:29:45,120 As newspaper headlines pout the dramatic death of gangster John Dillon. 403 00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:50,310 An autopsy is performed on his alleged corpse, and a coroner's inquest is 404 00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:53,090 convened to determine the precise cause of death. 405 00:29:54,170 --> 00:30:00,310 Inquests like these routinely involve witness testimony, but only one witness 406 00:30:00,310 --> 00:30:02,850 the biograph shooting is called before the verdict is pronounced. 407 00:30:03,790 --> 00:30:08,070 Justifiable homicide by officers of the federal government. 408 00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:13,670 It was reported that the man who ran down Dillinger was not present. 409 00:30:14,010 --> 00:30:20,410 The man whose bullet killed Dillinger was not named. And the actual inquest 410 00:30:20,410 --> 00:30:26,050 into this incident lasted all of about 20 minutes. 411 00:30:26,470 --> 00:30:32,890 The article also notes that the two women, Hamilton or Sage, are not allowed 412 00:30:32,890 --> 00:30:38,250 speak to the press at all. The East Chicago police officers on the scene 413 00:30:38,250 --> 00:30:42,850 that two federal justice officers performed the execution. 414 00:30:43,530 --> 00:30:44,530 The two were never named. 415 00:30:44,690 --> 00:30:50,490 The executed man also apparently had a gun, but this gun was never found, and 416 00:30:50,490 --> 00:30:52,390 was never even part of the inquest. 417 00:30:52,930 --> 00:30:57,710 If we're talking about public enemy number one, you would do this absolutely 418 00:30:57,710 --> 00:31:04,290 the book. The whole inquest was done very quickly. The entire purpose of it 419 00:31:04,290 --> 00:31:08,470 seemed to have been that it was in the interest of the FBI to make this go away 420 00:31:08,470 --> 00:31:09,470 very quickly. 421 00:31:09,550 --> 00:31:10,990 So from all of these... 422 00:31:11,310 --> 00:31:14,330 Missing pieces of this puzzle. There are some people that speculate that 423 00:31:14,330 --> 00:31:18,330 someone's aiming to just suppress as much information as possible. The Bureau 424 00:31:18,330 --> 00:31:22,050 Investigation says, we got our men. We're an effective force of the 425 00:31:22,210 --> 00:31:25,070 We know what we're doing. There are plenty of other bad guys out there. We 426 00:31:25,070 --> 00:31:26,070 to go get them. 427 00:31:26,090 --> 00:31:29,950 Pretty Boy Floyd is the new public enemy number one. But three months after 428 00:31:29,950 --> 00:31:32,170 Dillinger's death, he's gunned down. 429 00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:36,530 And then Babyface Nelson is killed a month after that. 430 00:31:37,510 --> 00:31:39,810 This string of headline -making shootings. 431 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,980 raises the profile of J. Edgar Hoover and his Bureau of Investigation. 432 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,600 Imagine if the public had learned that the Bureau investigation had killed the 433 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:55,500 wrong guy in that alley. There'd be no way that J. Edgar Hoover would ever let 434 00:31:55,500 --> 00:32:02,300 the possibility of John Dillinger being alive permeate. There's no way. It would 435 00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:05,220 have been an epic embarrassment for J. Edgar Hoover. 436 00:32:10,250 --> 00:32:17,130 So this string of successes really finally elevate J. Edgar Hoover and the 437 00:32:17,130 --> 00:32:20,190 to the status that they were hoping for. They are shining heroes. 438 00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:24,410 Is it possible Hoover himself engineered a cover -up? 439 00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:27,710 Some speculate the answer could be yes. 440 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:34,320 Hoover would go to any length to cover up any mistakes that his fledgling FBI 441 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,560 had going because they couldn't take the publicity, not after Little Bohemia, 442 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,400 when he almost lost his position. 443 00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:47,140 J. Edgar Hoover by now has spent tens of millions of dollars in pursuit of John 444 00:32:47,140 --> 00:32:51,640 Dillinger. And to have word get out now that all of that money was spent for 445 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,160 naught and misused, it would have not only destroyed J. Edgar Hoover's career. 446 00:32:56,650 --> 00:32:58,150 but probably the Bureau as well. 447 00:32:58,390 --> 00:33:03,650 If the FBI mistook Jimmy Lawrence as John Dillinger and killed the wrong man, 448 00:33:04,350 --> 00:33:06,690 Dillinger has to disappear. 449 00:33:07,390 --> 00:33:12,650 This theory holds they actually broker a deal between Dillinger and the FBI that 450 00:33:12,650 --> 00:33:19,610 will have Dillinger agree, when compensated, to vanish and live the rest 451 00:33:19,610 --> 00:33:25,730 of his days in anonymity, and that in return, the FBI will leave him alone. 452 00:33:26,350 --> 00:33:30,430 The Bureau had been embarrassed so many times by John Dillinger from these 453 00:33:30,430 --> 00:33:36,530 escapes and the ridicule, which has led some to contend that it would be easier 454 00:33:36,530 --> 00:33:42,710 to simply make a deal with Dillinger, that Dillinger would willingly stay in 455 00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:48,550 hiding, remain anonymous, and never embarrass the FBI again. 456 00:33:49,270 --> 00:33:53,970 To keep the truth from coming out, key witnesses would have to be silenced. 457 00:33:54,380 --> 00:33:55,940 People like Anna Sage. 458 00:33:56,700 --> 00:34:03,220 Anna Sage is given a $5 ,000 reward for her role in the apprehension of John 459 00:34:03,220 --> 00:34:04,220 Dillinger. 460 00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:10,540 In this version of the story, that $5 ,000 is less a reward than it is hush 461 00:34:10,540 --> 00:34:15,239 money. Anna Sage, in spite of what she had hoped she was going to get out of 462 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,800 deal, she ended up getting deported back to Romania. 463 00:34:18,670 --> 00:34:24,489 Adding to speculation around an FBI cover -up, the Dillinger autopsy report 464 00:34:24,489 --> 00:34:29,350 missing in 1934, only to be found 50 years later. 465 00:34:29,610 --> 00:34:34,530 The autopsy report is found in March of 1984 in the basement of the Cook County 466 00:34:34,530 --> 00:34:39,889 Medical Office in a brown paper bag. How does one of the most interesting, one 467 00:34:39,889 --> 00:34:45,429 of the most important autopsy reports just go missing like that? Yeah. 468 00:34:46,170 --> 00:34:51,449 You're inclined to believe that the autopsy reveals all of these 469 00:34:51,610 --> 00:34:56,310 Well, maybe there was a reason to cover it up so that people couldn't know the 470 00:34:56,310 --> 00:35:00,890 truth, that it wasn't Dillinger who was gunned down outside the biograph. 471 00:35:04,330 --> 00:35:11,170 Five months from November 1933 to April 1934, John Dillinger has a 26 -year 472 00:35:11,170 --> 00:35:15,650 -old girlfriend named Evelyn Furchette, nicknamed Billy. 473 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,440 Frechette was born to a French father and a Native American mother. She lived 474 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,800 the Menominee Reservation in Wisconsin. 475 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,760 At age 18, Billy Frechette moves to Chicago. 476 00:35:26,980 --> 00:35:29,580 She works as a waitress and as a nursemaid. 477 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,720 In November of 1933, she meets Dillinger at a dance hall. 478 00:35:33,980 --> 00:35:36,840 She describes him as someone who treated her very well. 479 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,180 She says he was a gentleman, and the fact that he's a scoundrel doesn't 480 00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:45,380 the fact that to ladies, he could very well be very charming. 481 00:35:45,790 --> 00:35:49,010 By all accounts, they have a real love affair. 482 00:35:49,870 --> 00:35:55,550 Allegedly, Evelyn Billy Frechette and John Dillinger had a plan to escape this 483 00:35:55,550 --> 00:35:56,368 life of crime. 484 00:35:56,370 --> 00:36:01,870 Dillinger and Frechette actually live together for a time. And the story we 485 00:36:01,870 --> 00:36:04,650 is of Billy playing more or less the good housewife. 486 00:36:04,930 --> 00:36:10,230 Then, on April 9th, 1934, Frechette is arrested. 487 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:17,380 And he sees her get arrested inside of a bar, and he initially planned some 488 00:36:17,380 --> 00:36:20,020 rather daring attempts to help her escape. 489 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,220 John wanted to break her out. It was too dangerous. He couldn't do it. He 490 00:36:24,220 --> 00:36:25,220 couldn't take the risk. 491 00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:28,160 She remained in jail until 1936. 492 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,160 Burchette is behind bars when she learns that her outlaw boyfriend has been 493 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,900 killed at the Biograph Theater. 494 00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:38,740 Blackie Audet says that after the shooting at the Biograph Theater, 495 00:36:40,750 --> 00:36:46,630 that he would take him west to a reservation in Oregon where he could 496 00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:47,630 Billy Frechette. 497 00:36:47,690 --> 00:36:52,150 She, however, still had two years left on her prison sentence. 498 00:36:52,770 --> 00:36:55,110 Dillinger apparently could not wait that long. 499 00:36:55,610 --> 00:37:00,390 Could Dillinger's relationship with Frechette have inspired his choice of a 500 00:37:00,390 --> 00:37:01,390 hiding place? 501 00:37:01,710 --> 00:37:07,810 There has been speculation that Dillinger could have easily have hid out 502 00:37:07,810 --> 00:37:11,910 Native American reservation after he disappeared and started living an 503 00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:12,910 life. 504 00:37:16,590 --> 00:37:20,750 According to Audette, he took Dillinger to the Beattie Reservation in Klamath 505 00:37:20,750 --> 00:37:25,810 County, Oregon. And it's there that Dillinger apparently met a Native 506 00:37:25,810 --> 00:37:28,170 woman and ended up having four children with her. 507 00:37:28,780 --> 00:37:34,120 Through Billy, he knew people in the Native American community, presumably. 508 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:40,040 And it was not uncommon for people who did want to disappear to go to Indian 509 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:46,140 reservations. According to one Raymond Kakwatosh, who grew up on the Menominee 510 00:37:46,140 --> 00:37:50,880 Reservation in Wisconsin, Dillinger was a somewhat frequent visitor, where he 511 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,300 was harbored at different points in his criminal career. 512 00:37:54,220 --> 00:38:00,140 John Dillinger used the reservation as sort of a sanctuary because the 513 00:38:00,140 --> 00:38:06,040 local police and the state police could not go on the reservation. 514 00:38:06,580 --> 00:38:10,960 If Dillinger needed a place to get lost and to escape after the shooting at the 515 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,640 Biograph, a Native American reservation would probably be the best place, 516 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,620 considering that on Native American reservations, state authorities... 517 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,200 have no jurisdiction, and also Native Americans, not the biggest fan of the 518 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,200 United States government. 519 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,080 Dillinger, being seen as this hero, was always considered welcome on these 520 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:34,240 reservations. According to Blackie Audet, when the reservation in Oregon 521 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,160 John Dillinger stays in the area and lives there for the rest of his life as 522 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:45,420 farmer. If that is the case, it raises the question once again of just who is 523 00:38:45,420 --> 00:38:46,900 buried in Indiana. 524 00:38:49,250 --> 00:38:54,690 In 2019, Dillinger's niece and nephew sought to answer that question by 525 00:38:54,690 --> 00:38:56,730 a permit to exhume the body. 526 00:38:57,730 --> 00:39:02,010 John Dillinger's niece and nephew, Carol and Michael Thompson, present an 527 00:39:02,010 --> 00:39:07,650 affidavit to Indiana saying they have reason to believe that the body buried 528 00:39:07,650 --> 00:39:09,550 there is not that of their uncle. 529 00:39:09,770 --> 00:39:11,150 One would think... 530 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,960 that if the FBI really wanted to put an end to this speculation, we certainly 531 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:22,380 have the technology now through DNA to find out who's buried in that grave. 532 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,780 The Chicago FBI office, in response to this affidavit, releases a statement 533 00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:32,640 saying that, nope, 100%, the man in that grave is John Dillon. 534 00:39:33,460 --> 00:39:39,300 In addition, Crown Hill Cemetery, where Dillinger is buried, opposed exhuming 535 00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:40,300 his body. 536 00:39:40,650 --> 00:39:45,770 The cemetery cited its duty to ensure the safety and integrity of the grounds 537 00:39:45,770 --> 00:39:48,010 and those interred there. 538 00:39:48,590 --> 00:39:54,350 Ultimately, a Marion County judge ruled that Dillinger's family cannot exhume 539 00:39:54,350 --> 00:39:56,730 the body without the cemetery's consent. 540 00:39:57,150 --> 00:40:03,790 Since then, Dillinger's family has called off any effort to exhume the 541 00:40:03,790 --> 00:40:10,440 for so many, the fact remains that until there is a DNA test, Taken of that 542 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:15,780 body, we will not know who was buried under John Dillinger's name. 543 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:21,300 John Dillinger has been called America's first celebrity criminal. And 90 years 544 00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:27,300 after his death, or perhaps his escape, Dillinger remains one of the most famous 545 00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:29,220 gangsters in American history. 546 00:40:33,940 --> 00:40:37,400 Genetic analysis could finally answer the question. 547 00:40:37,850 --> 00:40:42,670 of whether the notorious bank robber, John Dillinger, was truly killed outside 548 00:40:42,670 --> 00:40:45,350 the Biograph Theater 90 years ago. 549 00:40:45,710 --> 00:40:50,450 But as long as the courts deny permission to exhume the body, there 550 00:40:50,450 --> 00:40:57,150 those who suspect that on that July night in 1934, public enemy number one 551 00:40:57,150 --> 00:40:58,790 have made his greatest escape. 552 00:40:59,250 --> 00:41:04,850 I'm Lawrence Fishburne. Thank you for watching History's Greatest Mysteries. 52519

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