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Previously on the "Southern Charm"
season 10 reunion.
Whoa!
I don't believe you.
What?
- Stop. - Are you serious?
Hey, Shep, we gotta talk about the text.
A weird day for freckled lips.
Molly and Shep, well, you shared a kiss at the finale.
What happened after?
I mean...
- Ooh! - Wait, really?
Craig, you just said
that she broke up with you in Toronto.
Yeah.
And you were with Austen
but you chose not to share that with him.
This is gonna be a harsh but I don't trust him yet.
You and I are going out on dates every single day.
Mm-hmm.
Super teaser drops.
I text you, your ex-girlfriend's in my----ing DM
calling me a goddamn rat.
What the-
And then you ghost to me for a week.
You should have said,
"Hey, Venita, I really want us to talk
because I don't like what's happening between us.
We could talk it out." - I did.
- You didn't. - I did.
I asked you for a meeting.
Do you want me to go grab my phone?
Thank you. - The girl you date now
is the girl that you dated before Venita.
The girl who sent her nasty messages.
Yes.
I have a feeling it's about to get worse.
Oh, boy.
Tonight, the "Southern Charm" reunion continues.
โช Mm-hmm
What do you wanna show us?
You said to me before I got up and walked away,
you were like, "You ghosted me and my feelings were hurt."
That's what you said to me.
Yes.
October 29th, "It will be super helpful for us
to both link up in person
to just see how you're doing after yesterday."
So this is after the trailer dropped?
Yes.
Yeah, the day after.
Because we're seeing each other now.
We're hanging out every day, like you said.
And I'm reaching out to you to be caring to you.
I said,
"I think I'm gonna just take time to myself right now."
Right, boom. - That's what I said.
We don't talk 'cause I took time, and then-
And I called you multiple times
and I text- - You didn't.
JT, you didn't. - Did I text you more?
That weekend?
That weekend, so there's still no response.
I'm in the dark going, we were just hanging out every day,
and I'm reaching out trying to make sure you're okay.
And what did he say over the weekend?
"Just wanted to let you know my mind was on yours."
I was at my best friend's wedding so I didn't have my phone.
And you said, "Got it, will let you be."
But like- - I got to let you be.
That's it. You gave me a week of I don't care.
And then how soon after then when you said-
At 1:30 the next----ing day,
you post that girl on your goddamn Instagram.
And say we're girlfriend and boyfriend.
Why did you do that?
Why did you post that? - Hold on, real quick, look.
He was trying to get her back.
You don't think that was gonna hurt me?
Real quick, did those text messages like,
that's showing me showing care for you.
I know, it totally is.
I'm just wondering then
what compelled you to post that then.
Were you doing damage control?
No.
Did Venita hurt your feelings and you tried to hurt
her feelings back? - Yes.
No, no, no, no.
After a week of trying for someone I cared about,
I said, you know what?
I gotta move on because I can't keep sitting here in limbo.
After a week.
It's a week.
It's seven days.
Okay, so can I...
Wait, wait, wait, just wait a second.
You just verbatim been like, "Hey listen.
Like, I know you're taking time for yourself,
but I have to be very honest."
But it's----ing with my head, yeah.
"I don't know where we stand right now
and it's hurting my heart." - Yeah, I guess.
"Can we talk about it?"
I hear you.
- You did not give me that. - That's fair, that's fair.
I can see you getting mad about that.
Look, it was a big miscommunication
but my feelings were there.
Sounds like you still have
a lot of love and chemistry for each other
interestingly enough. - I think they just
miscommunicated and both sides are super hurt.
Yes, I agree.
Well, I guess the question is, where do you go from here?
I'd like to repair it and get the friendship back.
Do you wanna be friends with him?
Yeah.
You do?
Wow, wow.
Do you wanna date him?
Yeah.
You do?
- Yeah. - Aw.
It's very honest of you.
But I'm not gonna allow myself to work on our friendship
with her in the picture because I know she does not like me.
So how do you respond to that?
I think step one is just being here today
and like, seeing you in person.
And I think we just take it one day at a time.
Okay.
All right, well, this is,
this is interesting.
Despite JT being on the f-boy hot seat this season,
he continued to proselytize about the truth.
Okay, let's get to the bottom of some conspiracies.
Oh, God.
Why is Madison in matching polka dots with Austen?
You sound absolutely nuts right now.
Austen and Madison, did you your polka dotted outfits?
- Polka dot, Madison. - I know.
I know it was on the invite.
I called her and I was like, "Madison, I want you back.
Let's coordinate together."
I'm gonna fight Brett at this horse race.
No, we did not coordinate.
I will own that, and I will walk that one back.
That was silly.
Walk a lot back.
Conspiracy theory that Austen cheated on Audrey.
Leva, this actually came from you
Last summer, he's been dating her?
Yeah.
They've been dating for that long?
Something's not adding up.
- What's the timeline? - I met a whole bunch of girls
who say they dated Austen.
Okay, so for clarification, I did not say cheated.
Okay.
Rod was saying
that they had been girlfriend-boyfriend for like a year,
so it was the timeline.
And I apologized to Austen
'cause I was like, that's not what I meant by it.
Right, right.
I had met her six months
prior to us being, like, an official relationship.
Madison, have you met Audrey?
- Yes. - What do you think of her?
I love, I think she's lovely.
Is the relationship the real deal?
- It feels like it. - Really?
Mm-hmm.
Are you in love with her?
I am.
You are?
Shut up, Rod.
It's just so nice.
Isn't this nice, dad?
It is very nice.
It's so nice, yes.
- You are? - She is just a darling.
Okay, conspiracy theory
that JT called Miss Patricia a bitch.
I don't know if Whitney's gonna talk to JT
after he finds out what he said about his mom.
He called you a bitch.
Now that does not exist on camera.
Miss Patricia came out on Instagram and said,
"When this was filmed,
I still believed JT called me the b-word.
Now, I don't think he did."
Who here thinks JT called her a bitch?
I know he did.
Okay.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
Craig, you really hurt my feelings, bro.
No audio found.
You look like the handsome boy that cried wolf.
I don't care.
I don't have a dog in this fight.
I'm telling you exactly what----ing happened.
You look like the handsome boy that cried wolf.
And you're lying, and your lies are painful.
But here's a good point though.
JT, take the bitch thing out of it.
The stuff that you said
outside of the bitch thing was way worse.
There's nothing to take out 'cause I didn't say it,
so stop saying it.
I'm saying take that out of it.
The stuff about Madison,
the stuff about Austen. - The stuff about Madison,
the stuff about Austen.
You don't hold him accountable.
We gotta get this guy in order.
No.
You're keeping Austen in your life
who's pulling this sh--.
It's none of my business.
Did Craig misrepresent what was said at your golf outing?
I'd say 90% of it was was spot on.
- Shut up. - 90% was spot on.
Yeah, you embellish.
You embellish.
I'm saying that's a good thing, Shep.
- Oh, okay. - 90% to then go and repeat
everything that was said.
It's pretty damn----ing good.
He's like, "No, it's good."
I thought he was coming at me.
I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Shep, are you serious?
You're serious right now?
Yeah, I was there.
Saying that I called her a bitch.
I didn't say that.
That's the 10%.
Then what's the 90% I did say?
You tried to play moral police with us.
You went on a rant how we can't stand
for this sort of behavior from our friends.
No, I'm saying-
You exactly said that.
I was like, "What the---- are you talking about?"
You said we're enabling Austen
to continue to cheat on his girlfriend
by being friends with him - Which is just like
you coming up with nonsense. - Which is insane.
You're gonna let him just roll you like that.
All right, I do wanna talk about
your relationship to the truth.
Sure.
Okay?
Because you said on "Watch What Happens Live"
that you had never lied on camera.
I stand by it.
And I said,
well, in the episode that we were coming on after,
they had showed a montage of you lying.
Well, I wanna show you the montage.
Yeah, and I'll walk you through it.
- Okay. - How long did you know
that you didn't graduate from law school?
Since the beginning.
Really?
Those words never came out of my mouth.
I just graduated law school.
Did you really graduate?
Yeah.
My fingerprint's done, my jobs.
Then I had to get three character affidavits.
All right, future's in here.
So did you take the bar?
I'm not allowed to take the bar.
I hadn't received my official diploma.
So I did mail in my bar application.
It was rejected because I hadn't finished that final paper.
Okay.
The graduating thing, I did walk
and I was missing one credit, so.
You lied about graduating.
Well, define graduating.
Craig, I mean, this is okay though.
This was that point where you were, like Adderall was,
I mean, you were not the same person you are today.
Right, but I was-
- Yeah. - It's okay to say
I was fallible like a back mofo back then.
I get that.
But what I'm saying is when we are filming,
I would never say something
that can impeach me at the end of the day.
Austen, what do you think
about Craig's relationship to the truth?
I mean, I'm not gonna flat out
call Craig just, like, a liar but you are an embellisher.
Craig and I have sh--
that we're gonna be talking about here soon,
and we'll get to that.
Okay, well, it sounds like there's a lot of...
We're a dramatic bunch.
There could be some work to be done here.
And we're gonna leave it there and come right back.
Coming up.
They don't realize it,
but I know all their secrets.
I am terrified of Craig.
Is anyone else scared of him?
Yes.
Hello, Miss Patricia.
Hi.
The queen has landed.
This is her first reunion.
Oh.
They don't realize that I know all their secrets.
Hi.
I can't have the sugar.
As a truce, just a little bit.
Yes, I'll down it.
- A little bit? - I'll risk my life.
Oh, you'll down it for a truce?
Yeah.
Yeah?
You're giving me a truce to risk of my life?
Would you prefer tequila-soda?
I'm risking my life.
Well, don't make the thing be-
- Are you trying to kill me? - No.
Okay, here you go, you're flirting again, so.
No, we're not flirting anymore.
We're just...
I'm trying to be good.
Mm-hmm.
How's your mom?
All right, everybody to your chairs, please.
Are you ready for Patricia
to come apologize to you?
Is she?
Well, she's here.
Is she here?
Oh!
Hey!
How are you?
I'm good.
Nice to see you.
Patricia!
I'm so glad you're here.
Thank you.
You look beautiful.
All right, four, three, two.
Hey, everybody.
I'm Andy Cohen,
and we're back with the gang from "Southern Charm"
and Miss Patricia.
Hey, Miss Patricia.
Hi.
Is this your first reunion?
First and last.
Yes.
Well, does this set look familiar to you?
I think whoever did this was genius.
I mean, there's a painting in my house.
There are fake antiques.
Yes!
- Exactly. - Well, it is inspired
by your home, or should I say Whitney's home?
- Whitney's home. - Yes.
Well, it is hard to believe that "Southern Charm"
first graced our screens over 10 years ago.
It's such a transformation for this group of charmers,
some of whom were baby faced, naive, and even law students.
Let's take a look back.
My name is Shep Rose.
My name is Whitney James Sudler-Smith.
My name is Craig Conover.
Pull!
Yee-haw!
So my group of friends in Charleston, fun.
They're always pretty fairly drunk.
Shep is----ing brilliant.
I do commercial real estate, but I don't really do sh--.
Craig's funny.
He's probably one of the younger of the crew.
He's a law student. - I mean, I love the law
but I wanna be an attorney to be wealthy, obviously.
I love money.
It's awesome.
I'm used to being filmed at my boudoir.
Thank you.
Oh my, oh.
The gentlemen, the guys that all hang out together
are good-looking, fun, accomplished, rich,
and none of them are married.
I always say my wife's not even born yet
but as a joke.
I do wanna have, you know, a family, I think, one day.
But there's a window,
and it probably just is starting to open,
and it'll probably close
in 15 years or 10 years or 12 years.
Oh, damn.
Wow.
Wow!
That was amazing. - That was brilliant.
- Oh my God. - And Craig, you said,
your wife hasn't been born yet?
I don't know that guy.
Oh, I love that guy.
I love that guy.
Yeah, she's in middle school now.
She's in middle school.
Wow.
Miss Pat, you look exactly the same.
Literally.
What's your secret?
Botox everywhere.
Okay, okay.
Your son, he's one of the shows producers.
How did he convince you to be a part of it?
I didn't wanna do it.
Right.
I mean, I came to Charleston to retire.
Yeah.
You know, read and eat bonbons on my chaise.
Yeah.
He said just do it for five minutes.
And then they call me and they said,
"Well, just do it for the next episode," and then-
I remember being on the side of it at Bravo,
and we always wanted more Miss Pat.
Oh, that's very kind of you.
Yes.
And I never thought it would go anywhere.
I mean, who would be interested in watching
this cast of reprobates and their misdeeds
that have gone on now for 10 years.
Right.
Was it the scorn of Charleston kind of good society?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
A lot of the locals, at first, they hated it,
and then they're like, oh, it's just entertainment.
The city used to called the show Charmageddon and then-
Wow.
They kinda changed their-
Oh, people love it.
Yeah.
And the carriage rides now go by my house.
Wow.
Whitney thinks that he deserves like a cut
of the tourism that comes to his house.
Craig, you said on "Watch What Happens Live",
you thought the first day of filming
was some elaborate trick that Whitney was planning.
What do you remember most about your first days of filming?
I just didn't think it was real.
I thought Whitney had made up the entire thing.
Did you ever think you'd be here 10 years later?
No.
- No. - Three years was the goal.
Yes.
Madison, you were around in the early days
because you were doing Patricia's hair.
We've been friends for 17, 18 years now.
Wow.
And I invited her to a lot of the early parties.
Uh-huh.
And in fact, two of the guys here
tried to hook up with her.
I think it was, what, four seasons, this season.
She's talking about me and Shep.
I don't care.
Maybe I did.
Well, the friendship that the two of you share
really resonates.
Yeah, I love her.
Oh, I love you.
Aw, that's nice.
So exciting that she's pregnant, right?
I'm thrilled.
And I've known about it and I never-
- Mm-mm. - Divulged the secret,
which is like the only secret I've ever kept.
You were on "Watch What Happens Live" recently
and you said that you thought that Paige was mean to Craig.
Were you surprised, Miss Pat?
No.
No, why?
I thought that Paige was mean to Craig.
You did?
I did.
I took a lot of criticism for saying that
because people said, "Oh, you know,
you're not a career-oriented, independent woman,"
which is totally incorrect.
I've always worked. - Okay.
But my point was that it was dismissive
and bordered on being rude.
It was the way she said it.
Yes.
So Miss Pat, you've always given the boys words of wisdom
when it comes to dating.
Shep is now single.
Craig is now single.
Any advice that you can impart to them
at this moment in their lives?
You know, I have made many suggestions over the years,
and they look at me
and, you know, they nod and yes, yes, yes.
Yes.
But as you can tell, nobody pays any attention.
It's lost,
so, you know- - Right, yeah.
- I don't even- - It's worth it.
It's not worth it.
I don't bother anymore.
All right, thank you, Miss Pat, for your cameo.
Oh, it was my pleasure.
Thank you. - I love it, all right.
And congratulations to everyone on 10 memorable seasons.
Thank you.
Coming up.
You went around trashing my boyfriend.
You're still running your mouth about me.
You have nothing better going on in your life.
We are back with the season 10 "Southern Charm" reunion.
Well, this season we were introduced
to not one, but two new Southern belles.
I got a more passionate man now.
He's hot.
He looks like Jesus with tats.
Hmm.
Also, Taylor slept with him.
I'm 36.
I'm in the years of the people who are getting divorced.
So now, there are new men opening up again.
But then I feel like
they're gonna go through that, like, ho phase.
You don't wanna get 'em fresh out.
No 'cause I'm a jealous psycho.
Cheers to that.
Same.
This season, Molly said
Charleston was full of garbage men Peter Pans
who suck at life.
I am from Charleston.
Okay.
And dating sucks.
A lot of the guys are just used to having gorgeous women
throwing themselves at them
because there's not that many amazing people here.
Venita, you cosign that?
I do.
You do.
Molly, there were a lot of viewers who related
to your personal struggles this season with body image.
Yeah.
It's just hard to accept a new body.
And a lot of people online are mean,
so that has affected me.
On that note, Whitney and the cupcake.
So you do this
so you don't get icing all over and your nose.
Hey, you know what, Molly?
It's the last thing you need.
Whitney!
I was like, "Dude, what the----?"
Did Whitney ever apologize to you?
- He did, yeah. - He did?
Was it hard for you to be so open and vulnerable
about your weight struggles?
I don't know.
I'm just really open about the things that bother me.
I appreciate when other people
are really transparent about that stuff.
It helps me feel less alone.
Brian Moylan wrote in Vulture,
"I love this weird ass geeky girl with all my heart.
Of all the reality shows I've consumed,
never have I once seen one that hinged on a tuba solo.
Feed us, oh great tuba goddess."
How does it feel? - That is the best thing
I've ever heard in my life.
Music is beautiful, and it changes you, and it's powerful.
And it doesn't matter what kind.
You know, it could be singing, piano.
It could be anything.
Well, I was impressed by just how intuit the group was.
I was so honored-
We support each other.
- It was beautiful. - To have everyone
come and support me.
It really, really meant a lot.
Shep, is playing an instrument sexy?
Amazing.
Any instrument.
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay, moving on,
Salley, we got a lot of comments on your job.
Yep. Bravo in Blaze said, "Hold up.
I'm still processing that Salley is a spine surgeon."
Okay, so you control a robot? - Okay.
Yes. A lot of people think that I'm just there
if the robot malfunctions,
but I am very much the only person touching the robot.
The surgeon is still doing the surgery.
It is a guidance system,
and it's placing screws in your spine.
You and Taylor have some overlap when it comes to men,
Gaston, Andrew, Shep.
Yeah.
How'd you and Shep get together?
Shep slid into my DMs.
Okay.
- He- - Is Salley the only woman
who's ever kicked you out of bed.
Yes, yes.
It was shocking.
It was like two o'clock in the morning,
and then he wouldn't leave.
Oh my God.
I was like, "But I wanna stay here."
She's like, "No, you're not staying here."
- I'm sorry for that. - Why'd you kick him out?
I was just honestly just kind of ashamed of myself for-
Oh no!
No, not...
Like, I think so highly of you but I am not someone that,
like, goes and has like a one night stand
and it very much was that.
Taylor, we got a lot of comments about you being bothered
by the fact that Salley hooked up with Shep.
Definitely not bothered by them.
She can do whatever she wants.
It was more so of he's obsessed with me,
and he wishes that things had progressed with me
instead of Taylor, and da da da.
I would never say that.
That's just not what happened.
Shep was the one,
he was blowing up my phone.
I never said he was obsessed with me.
But he did blow up my phone. - Okay, well,
you just said that he was blowing up your phone.
That's the same thing as saying he's obsessed with you.
Okay, well, whatever.
Salley, how is your dating life?
Are you still with Andrew? - I mean...
No.
God, no.
And the only thing I will have her back on is that
that guy is weird.
She said he was weird.
He's----ing weird.
- Hey, how are you? - Good, man, how are you?
Andrew, he's very strange.
Well, Taylor stepped outta last season's love triangle
right into a new relationship
that seemed a lot like a fairytale.
- You tried. - Is that a ball in your pants
or are you just excited to see me?
Excited.
So Taylor, you two are still together.
- Mm-hmm. - How long has it been?
Almost a year and a half.
Taylor, since there's been so much chatter
about your boyfriend-
He told me to keep his name out of my----ing mouth.
She's dating a dirtbag.
I'm sorry, I know y'all are friends.
Gaston, he was cheating on my friend with Salley.
I would just love to give you the floor
to clear anything up.
Um...
Taylor, since there's been so much chatter
about your boyfriend, I would just love
to give you the floor to clear anything up.
Um...
He's an incredible human being.
He treats me well, and I'm gonna hold him close.
Okay.
Shep, you called Gaston mid.
Why would you hook up with him?
He's not good-looking.
Shep, shut up.
I'm just saying.
He looks mid, average.
I think talking about someone's looks
is very middle school mean girl.
Like, it's just not-
I agree.
Shep, you said her family wanted her to be with you.
That wasn't fair to say.
Why'd you say it?
Well, I hope this isn't...
At her brother's funeral,
her sweet, sweet granddad was like,
"Are you and Taylor gonna get back together?"
And I was just like, oh my gosh, so-
I don't think he would ever say that.
At this point, I just care about her,
and I never will stop doing that.
What's frustrating is hearing you say
you care a whole hell out of a lot.
Why didn't you care
when you had your tongue down some other girl's throat?
You cared a little too late.
I agree.
All right, one person
who has a lot to say about Gaston is Salley.
Why keep talking about him?
I stopped completely.
She's the one that's continued to go around town, and him.
Well, yeah, when you're going around town
and coming into a new friend group-
When I'm going around town talking about you is crazy!
You went around trashing my boyfriend.
You're still running your mouth about me today,
yesterday, the day before it. - Before I even had a chance
to bring my relationship- - You have nothing better
going on in your life.
And introduce him to my friend group.
Nothing better going on in your life.
Okay, you came in and infiltrated and leveraged
my fractured friendship with the girls-
There are people in this group
that have told me not to trust you.
Why would I...
Why?
The whole point is that you came into her friend group,
and understandably, that is your experience,
and talked about a guy
that she hadn't even introduced to the group yet.
It's understandable from both ends but-
He's not this asshole that you make him out to be.
He was an asshole to me.
You don't have to scream it to the mountaintops
to our friend group.
Salley, do you wanna have a friendship with Taylor Ann?
Not while she's dating Gaston, no.
I guess we won't ever be friends.
Do you think you'll get married to Gaston?
I think so.
When do you think you and Gaston will make it official?
Thinking this year.
All right.
Yeah.
Wow.
Wow.
Well, we wish you the best.
Thank you.
Well, this season, Charleston's resident Martha Stewart,
AKA Craig, attempted to live out his suburban dreams
with a brand new pool and a side hustle as a beekeeper.
But at the end of the season, Craig was stung
when his queen abruptly left the hive.
If you said to me right now,
"We need to have a baby or I'm leaving,"
like, you'd have to leave.
When am I gonna see you?
Never. This is the last time you're ever gonna see me.
No, it's not.
- And you just don't know it. - We were best friends.
We loved each other.
We had a great sex life.
How are we giving this up?
Craig, I know we have a lot to discuss about the breakup,
but first, I wanna know, how's the sewing business going?
Business is good.
I'm very fortunate that things outside of the breakup
are something to be appreciative for.
You caught some flack this season being more concerned
with promoting your businesses on Instagram
than spending time with friends.
Shep, you were after him
to get serious about his life for so long.
Look, there's a balance, right?
And if Craig had just really been more communicative,
looking back, I mean, you know,
when you had your talk with Austen on the beach-
It was like trying not to be an alcoholic
is now affecting my friendship with Austen.
I wasn't in a great spot, dude.
Communication is everything and-
Yeah, and you-
I'm sure we're gonna get there.
Good, good.
Austen, did his relationship with Paige
caused him to pull back from his friendship with you?
You know, you get into a relationship like Craig was in,
and there's no shame or anything
to, like, make that person like your number one priority.
But when did things begin to go wrong?
I can't even tell you.
So that just shows,
like, he didn't lean on any of his friends.
And third party friendships are really important as well.
And I think his anchor was dug in so deep with her
that maybe that wasn't a healthy thing at the end for them.
You know, my only way to get to where I wanted to get
on my, like, journey was to really isolate myself.
And like, I really liked having someone home to go...
I don't know.
Looking at it from the outside,
it seemed like you were setting up a life for the two of you
that only one of you was interested in.
Oh, Jesus----.
Okay, so then,
when you're like, "I want some honey,"
what does that look like?
You go to the store and buy it.
Do you think there were signs
you missed in the relationship?
The funny thing is,
is I was working on myself to not react to signs.
So like, she stopped visiting me in Charleston
but it was because she was, like, too busy.
She never came to the Nashville store
but it was, like, she was too busy.
So it was a confusing relationship to be in sometimes.
Talk to me about the ring.
She was like, "I'd like you to get me a ring.
Like, I think it's time."
So I had it made here,
and it's like four-karat elongated cushion cut
with a half carat of diamonds around the band.
Then by the time I got the ring, she was like,
"I'd rather you wait until after I announce the business."
But looking back, like, it didn't feel totally right.
Like, I was nervous, but not the good type of nervous.
What will you do with it?
I'll bring it back to the jeweler.
I don't re-gift jewelry like my friend over here.
He got me a megalodon tooth.
The same one you got me.
It was a megalodon tooth.
The other one was great white, okay?
They were different species.
It's different.
Austen, recently on "Watch What Happens Live",
you alluded that Paige having moved on with another guy
was substantiated.
I don't think that those are rumors,
and I think that Craig knows as such.
Wow.
You said that with pretty good certainty.
Yeah.
I shouldn't have
'cause I don't know the girl's, you know, day to day,
but it looked like repetitive dates.
So that's why I thought this doesn't seem like it's a rumor.
At what point does, like, three different outlets
corroborating a story...
Like, it's like if it walks like a duck,
it quacks like a duck, it's a duck, yeah.
That's, like, kind of what I was alluding to.
Paige responded to that accusation.
She said, "The narrative took a turn really quickly
that I had cheated.
Let me say this here and now.
I didn't cheat on my ex-boyfriend.
It was a full month that we were broken up,
and I didn't say anything,
and he asked me not to say anything."
That's not true.
Do you think she cheated on you?
I'm not gonna even touch anything with that.
Yeah, and that's not what I was saying either.
I didn't start those rumors.
Well, what do you think, Andy?
I mean, you saw the little reports.
That's an HR issue.
Kyle and Amanda from "Summer House" recently defended Paige.
You unfollowed Kyle and Amanda.
Yeah, they said there was something wrong
with how I've been handling being broken up with.
Her cast commenting on how I'm grieving
and that I'm sorry that I'm not reading Reddit every day
and getting on there and defending her,
like, I never said you cheated, so I'm not a part of this.
She broke up with me.
I----ing protected her to the ends of the earth,
but that ended the day that you cut me out of your life.
The two of you have not spoken since your breakup.
She won't answer.
She won't answer?
No, she's cut me completely off.
Rose07 tweeted,
"Women everywhere are gonna be pursuing Craig so hard
after seeing what an amazing boyfriend he was to Paige.
It won't be long before he is walking down the aisle.
Just saying."
You haven't started dating yet, right?
No, um-
We DM.
I sent him, I'm like, "Hey."
Yeah, she's been sending me girls, which is funny.
And he's like, "This is fun."
The dating thing, I feel like,
I know it sounds silly to the boys sometimes,
but I feel like I just kinda wanna be fully healed,
and I think that's okay.
You maybe seem a little relieved
about not having to, like, cover for anything or...
I'm really sad, but there's a lightness to it.
I did a lot of living by myself.
And in my head, I was like, one day, we'll do this together.
So I was in love with not reality.
I was in love with the potential
of what I thought we could be.
And I think, yes,
I was blinded by wanting to make it work, I guess.
Coming up.
Why continue on if I'm just gonna get, like, backhanded
for, like, stepping outta line or something?
Yes.
Rod, can I get a sip of that?
Yes.
When do you start----ing screaming and yelling,
you----ing asshole.
It hasn't been my turn, dude.
It's about to be, I guess.
Yeah.
All right, Andy, I'm sending it to you in
three, two...
Well, Craig and Paige may have dominated recent headlines,
but the real love story of this show
has always been between Craig, Shep, and Austen.
However, this season was a rocky road.
Last year, when we were here, Shep was struggling,
and the two of you were keeping him at arm's length.
It sounds to me like you just don't see
relationships the way I do.
Like, you're willing- - No, I think you----ed up
and you needed to never do that again.
I've heard about some bad nights you've had
since New New York. - I have.
It hasn't been perfect. - Okay, so what,
what do you think, I'm a masochist
and I'm gonna keep sticking around?
Craig has always been able to draw that line in the sand.
I've never really been able to do that before,
with Shep, like, especially.
He calls me,
and even if I'm like, "This mother----er", I answer.
And Craig's like, "Why do you do that to yourself?
You're mad at him.
It doesn't really, like, you know, teach him a lesson
not to talk," like Shep's like a dog or something.
But, like, when we began this season, I was glad
that we could all kinda go to Shep's hunting cabin
and have that talk to get everything back on track,
and then you saw it very quickly change.
You and Shep had several conversations
about how Craig wasn't making his friendships a priority.
He's extremely wrapped up, reclusive in Craig.
I just feel like his trying to curate an image.
He's starring in his own commercial.
How did it feel for you to hear your friends saying this?
Incredibly insulting.
I just never would have imagined in my wildest dreams
that my friends would take it personally
that I was working on myself.
Where I come from, if you stop drinking alcohol,
it's because you have a problem with alcohol.
Okay.
To be fair, you know, when we got to The Bahamas,
I realized that Austen, it never even crossed his mind,
and that's my fault for, I guess, never sitting him down
and talking to him about it.
And I could have seen some signs too
with, you know, your past, right,
you know, to maybe be like,
oh, maybe he does have a problem with alcohol.
But, like, when I came to your house, it was purely out of,
like, Craig, I know that you've been busy.
I miss my buddy.
If I'm going to lunch,
like, you're not on my phone call list.
Like, if I'm going to get like a beer,
you're not on my phone call list.
But that's a you thing!
I was hoping that you would be like, "Look,
maybe I have lost touch of my personal relationships."
And instead, you, like, took it
like I was just, like, I don't really know how you took it,
but all of a sudden- - I just felt,
yeah, I felt blindsided. - It's like we didn't talk
for, like, a week or something after that.
And I was like, man, you know?
And Shep even said to me,
and he was like watching the scene, he was like,
"I could just tell that you were nervous as sh--.
And you were, like, 'Oh, God, if I say something wrong
that Craig's gonna bite my head off.'"
And you kinda did. - Can I ask you a question?
Are you like...
I don't wanna say scared of him.
I am terrified of Craig sometimes, yes.
Is it his temper?
It is most certainly his temper.
You think you have a bad temper?
Yeah, I'm working on it.
It's why I don't - ing drink anymore.
Is anyone else scared of him?
Yes.
Sometimes, sometimes.
I mean, in The Bahamas...
What you said flamed it.
No, I didn't say what you said!
What you said.
I'm stressed.
Yeah, I'm stressed.
You don't have to rub it in, guys.
I'm saying, like, I believe it.
I had no idea that that's how you felt.
There was a big reaction online
to Paige making fun of Austen.
What grown man goes over to another grown man's house
crying that he misses them?
Entity of love tweeted,
"I don't like how Paige mocked Austen
for being vulnerable with a friend.
Do better, mean girl."
Yeah.
I thought that she'd be like, "I love this.
And, you know, you two needed to hug it out."
Like, I thought that that would be the demeanor
that she had.
She's not a mean girl.
She was just sticking up for me.
Austen, you felt that Craig
used the "Pillows and Beer" podcast as a weapon.
What was up with you offering him 50 grand initially
and then low balling him?
Offer somewhere between 35 to $50,000.
Yeah, I'm just gonna offer from 30
and see what he says.
---- you.
But I wasn't that shocked.
We're so bad at communicating with each other.
Talking business.
Clearly.
We didn't know what to do anymore.
Like, I was so frustrated at Austen because in my mind,
I knew his goals, and in my mind, he wasn't doing the stuff
that he needed to do to get there.
Like, just how I changed my relationship with alcohol
and my business started to do better,
I can see it happening for him.
Okay, do you think his drinking
is holding him back?
He does not have a drinking problem.
Okay.
But you also said he showed up hung over
for the "Pillows and Beer" podcast.
I was shocked.
That was wrong.
With the podcast, he wouldn't show up.
Really?
Or he'd be hung over, like Xannied out
or like, just miserable, you know?
- Xannied out? - Yeah, he was Xannied out.
They were Xannied out.
Were you Xannied out?
Just to get it clear, I do not have a Xanax problem.
Yes? - No, no, no, no.
- Okay. - I don't, like-
Craig will say these things
to make it look like I'm the problem,
and it's not the truth at all.
I, like, you know, posted something about, you know,
getting mimosas, you know, with Audrey on a Sunday.
You know ,Craig, you're just like, you know,
someone's in their party era. - Yeah, I was disappointed.
And you say, like, "I don't wanna go out anymore."
I don't even think that I go out anymore.
Like, I go get, you know, martins,
you know, with Rod, like, at Santi's,
and like, we're home by, like, eight o'clock.
Like, Madison said it to me the other day
and like, it hit me like a ton of bricks.
She was like, "The bottom line
is that Craig does not, you know, respect you."
And I was like,
"Damn, that is true." - I did say that.
Do you respect him?
Yes, but it's just,
for some reason, seeing Austen drink makes me mad.
I know it does, I know.
And I think it's weird.
Well, so Rodrigo, you hang out with Austen.
Does he complain about getting judged by Craig?
Yeah, all the time.
You're just feeling,
like, it's weird for him to be so judgmental.
I'm not hurting anybody.
Like, anybody here would go and have a drink.
He feels like you think that you're better than him
and you treat him- - No, he doesn't think that.
Like you're better than him,
and like you're more successful than him
and it makes him feel- - Craig,
you're from, like, an ivory tower, man, sometimes
of, like, superiority.
But see, this stuff makes me not wanna hang out with him.
But if he feels like you're looking at him
from an ivory tower-
Well, that's----ed up.
And if he thinks that,
like, then we don't need to hang anymore
because if you think that I look down on you,
you know that that's not my character.
You just said that to your best friend
who is trying to open up his heart to you. That is so rude!
What?
No, that's how I feel.
Okay.
Like, if you think that I think
that I'm better you- - I'm like, I came here today-
Then you shouldn't be friends with me.
Craig, I've been battling with it!
It's like what I'm trying to tell you.
Why continue on if I'm just gonna get, like, backhanded
for, like, stepping out the line or something?
It's like a crazy concept
that I don't have with anybody else.
Yes.
He feels like you're looking at him from an ivory tower.
Well, that's----ed up.
And if he thinks that, like,
then we don't need to hang anymore
because if you think that I look down on you,
you know that that's not my character.
You just said that to your best friend
who is trying to open up his heart to you. That is so rude!
Craig, I've been battling with it!
It's, like, what I'm trying to tell you.
Why continue on if I'm just gonna get, like, backhanded
for, like, stepping out of line or something?
Yes.
I can't control the way that you perceive my actions.
Oh, that's like, gaslighting.
I know it's the wrong thing to say
but like, I know how-
Yeah, but your best friend's trying to be open.
Okay, guys.
I mean, I'm hearing it.
However, I feel like the conversation
at the end of this year, I finally understood you better
and you understood me better.
Well, I wanna talk about that.
On the last night in The Bahamas,
you admitted something really personal to Austen.
Yeah, I have a problem with alcohol.
You said I'm taking the bin.
I'm taking the bin to the house.
You're bitching about him-
I don't want to get on a plane.
I'm taking a plane. - Just shut up!
Are you drunk?
What was that, Chelsea?
I think it was really brave and touching to hear you say
you needed to stay on your couch to protect yourself.
Because if I leave my couch,
I'm gonna drink a bottle of Jager and do dumb sh--.
I just thought that was really powerful.
So first of all, kudos to you.
Thanks.
Well, it's weird to talk about, you know?
Yeah, but it shouldn't be.
If you were to open up, this entire friend group
would just like scoop you up and have your back.
Yeah.
I think you have a bit of an addictive personality
where it's like all Paige, or all this, or all work.
I think the universe put these two guys in your life
to, like, allow you to have a little bit more balance.
Your reaction to that conversation was what?
My conversation with Craig in The Bahamas?
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean, for him to open up to me,
which Leva, you can sit there and be like,
"You know, man, why don't you just say?"
It's harder for us for some reason
to just, like, be completely open and vulnerable.
So when Craig decided to open up to me
it, like, made me, like, emotional, right,
because there is a genuine care and love for Craig.
I----ing love you.
So now, you have a different relationship with alcohol,
yet he's still terrified of you.
Right.
And I'm saying, like, it sucks
that you guys think that about me, and I will work on it.
I hear you.
It's just unexpected.
Well, so Austen, maybe you need
to be a little more communicative with him, you know?
Yeah, I mean, I feel like
I try to, like, keep the peace sometimes to a fault,
and then it ends up biting me in the ass.
What's your take on this?
I just want them to make up and get back together.
That's all. - Yeah.
- At the end of the day- - It's so obvious
you all love each other. - I know it'll happen.
It's just-
Well, clearly, they love each other,
and they're great together.
You guys are super fun.
You have a lot of affection for each other.
You two are gonna go to dinner tonight,
and you are not gonna judge him when he orders a martini.
Maybe I'll have a celebratory beer with you.
No, we're drinking NA.
Okay, I'll do that.
Madison said, "Don't leave me."
Yeah.
Craig, anything you feel like we didn't address
that you wanna-
I hope not.
Okay.
I feel like I've received...
No, I think I'm excited
that we all live in Charleston together.
I'm excited to be spending more time in Charleston now.
You think next year, when we're here,
you'll have a girlfriend?
I don't think you can plan that stuff.
Austen, anything more you wanna say to Craig?
No, no, no, no.
I hope that Craig is, you know, received it
and that we can just get back to like our smiley, fun times.
I hope so.
JT, do you feel like you're gonna be able to repair
any of your friendships within this group today?
I do.
I think there's definitely a lot of people here
that I care about.
One day at a time.
Venita, where do you and JT go from here?
Well, I mean, I can't do much.
He's dating somebody.
Yes.
Do you feel cleaner with him at the end of the night
than you did when you came in? - I do.
I do, yeah. - You do? You too, JT?
Yeah, it's like a huge weight off of my shoulders.
That's good.
Shep, I feel like it's a tradition by now.
I would love to give you the floor
for some final thoughts, sir. - Okay.
I think I'd be remiss
not to celebrate with all of you 10 seasons.
For Craig and I, we had no idea this was gonna go this far.
But to all of you, you are family to me.
We only know things that a very small number of people know,
whether it be feeling under the gun,
dealing with online hatred.
Whatever it is, it's a very unique club that we're in.
And so I hope that you feel warmth towards anybody
who's been through it for the rest of your life
because I know I will.
That's nice.
Hear, hear.
Well, thank you.
I wanna thank all of you for another great season.
I'm Andy Cohen.
Thanks, and good night.
Thanks, guys.
Great job. - Holy moly
and just like that- - Good job, Shep.
That was good. - You did it. Good job, Shep.
That was one of your better ones.
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