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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,875 --> 00:00:17,051 He told me that someone had come into his home 2 00:00:17,086 --> 00:00:22,056 and had shot his parents while they were in bed. 3 00:00:22,091 --> 00:00:24,852 And he said that he died when his parents killed him. 4 00:00:24,886 --> 00:00:26,371 I honestly didn't know what to do. 5 00:00:26,405 --> 00:00:28,200 I said, how did you pick me as your mommy? 6 00:00:28,235 --> 00:00:30,685 He says, I followed your footsteps in the snow. 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,068 He says that he was asking God that in his next life 8 00:00:34,103 --> 00:00:36,312 he wants to come back with the same family. 9 00:00:36,346 --> 00:00:39,763 He suffered from extreme separation anxiety. 10 00:00:39,798 --> 00:00:42,525 All of a sudden, I just hear this really loud scream. 11 00:00:42,559 --> 00:00:43,491 He started pointing. 12 00:00:43,526 --> 00:00:44,665 Don't you see that, Mommy? 13 00:00:44,699 --> 00:00:45,769 Don't you see that? 14 00:00:45,804 --> 00:00:48,807 And I said, see what? 15 00:00:48,841 --> 00:00:50,291 It's just heartbreaking for anyone 16 00:00:50,326 --> 00:00:53,225 who has kids to know that their kid feels unsafe and scared. 17 00:00:53,260 --> 00:00:54,502 I feel very helpless. 18 00:00:54,537 --> 00:00:57,057 And when we found out the truth, it was devastating. 19 00:01:09,138 --> 00:01:10,104 My name is Margie. 20 00:01:10,139 --> 00:01:11,968 I live in Las Vegas, Nevada. 21 00:01:12,002 --> 00:01:13,073 I have two sons. 22 00:01:13,107 --> 00:01:14,591 Nicholas, he's 14. 23 00:01:14,626 --> 00:01:17,180 And Ryan, he's 11. 24 00:01:17,215 --> 00:01:20,114 We have shows, concerts, the best restaurants. 25 00:01:20,149 --> 00:01:23,773 Vegas is really a great city to see and do many things, 26 00:01:23,807 --> 00:01:26,086 as well as raise a family. 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,641 Ryan was delivered by C-section. 28 00:01:29,675 --> 00:01:32,437 He was 6 pounds, 13 ounces. 29 00:01:32,471 --> 00:01:35,474 And I didn't have any complications with my pregnancy 30 00:01:35,509 --> 00:01:36,958 or delivery. 31 00:01:36,993 --> 00:01:38,995 He was about two weeks early. 32 00:01:39,029 --> 00:01:42,447 It was almost like Ryan couldn't wait to arrive. 33 00:01:42,481 --> 00:01:45,760 Ryan had a pretty normal development, 34 00:01:45,795 --> 00:01:48,487 got his first tooth at eight months. 35 00:01:48,522 --> 00:01:52,181 He started walking at 14 months. 36 00:01:52,215 --> 00:01:56,909 But he was a lot smaller than our first son. 37 00:01:56,944 --> 00:01:59,464 From a very young age, we noticed 38 00:01:59,498 --> 00:02:03,364 that Ryan was very intelligent. 39 00:02:03,399 --> 00:02:04,158 Hi. 40 00:02:04,193 --> 00:02:04,986 My name's Kerry. 41 00:02:05,021 --> 00:02:06,747 I am Ryan's father. 42 00:02:06,781 --> 00:02:09,129 Ryan has always had very good language skills. 43 00:02:09,163 --> 00:02:11,096 He could speak very clearly and very accurately 44 00:02:11,131 --> 00:02:13,167 on what he was describing to us. 45 00:02:13,202 --> 00:02:17,827 He had a big vocabulary and could carry on a conversation 46 00:02:17,861 --> 00:02:19,587 with an adult with no problem. 47 00:02:19,622 --> 00:02:24,178 It was like we were speaking to an adult and not a child. 48 00:02:24,213 --> 00:02:26,422 Many people were surprised when they spoke with Ryan 49 00:02:26,456 --> 00:02:28,182 at how clearly he could speak. 50 00:02:28,217 --> 00:02:31,323 He was really quite articulate for a little kid. 51 00:02:31,358 --> 00:02:33,946 It was interesting to hear what he would have to say. 52 00:02:33,981 --> 00:02:37,881 He was very mature for his age. 53 00:02:37,916 --> 00:02:40,367 Looking back, our first child, Nick, 54 00:02:40,401 --> 00:02:42,714 he was very fearful of a lot of things. 55 00:02:42,748 --> 00:02:45,648 Whereas Ryan had no fear. 56 00:02:45,682 --> 00:02:48,961 Ryan was very adventurous. 57 00:02:48,996 --> 00:02:51,619 He'd be the kid climbing up a car, climbing up a tree, 58 00:02:51,654 --> 00:02:54,691 jumping off a wall, jumping off the couch onto his brother. 59 00:02:54,726 --> 00:02:58,557 He was definitely fearless to almost a fault. 60 00:02:58,592 --> 00:03:00,801 And he was definitely a brave kid, loved to mix it up 61 00:03:00,835 --> 00:03:01,733 with the older boys. 62 00:03:01,767 --> 00:03:03,113 Even though he was a bit smaller, 63 00:03:03,148 --> 00:03:06,082 he would always be right in there with them all. 64 00:03:06,116 --> 00:03:08,222 Which made us think that he's really different. 65 00:03:08,257 --> 00:03:08,981 He's unique. 66 00:03:12,468 --> 00:03:14,987 The first time we noticed something unusual about Ryan 67 00:03:15,022 --> 00:03:17,300 is when he first started preschool. 68 00:03:17,335 --> 00:03:20,821 He suffered from extreme separation anxiety 69 00:03:20,855 --> 00:03:24,204 when we would drop him off at school. 70 00:03:24,238 --> 00:03:25,722 He'd be fine in the car ride. 71 00:03:25,757 --> 00:03:27,345 But when you got to the parking lot, 72 00:03:27,379 --> 00:03:29,899 that's when things started to escalate, as far as him getting 73 00:03:29,933 --> 00:03:32,660 nervous or getting antsy. 74 00:03:32,695 --> 00:03:34,490 When I would walk Ryan into the classroom, 75 00:03:34,524 --> 00:03:38,287 he would cling onto my leg and say, don't leave, don't leave. 76 00:03:38,321 --> 00:03:40,392 Don't go, Mommy. 77 00:03:40,427 --> 00:03:41,151 No. 78 00:03:44,638 --> 00:03:46,536 He'd be in the classroom with his hands 79 00:03:46,571 --> 00:03:48,538 up against the window. 80 00:03:48,573 --> 00:03:51,334 And he'd be turning different shades of purple. 81 00:03:54,820 --> 00:03:57,996 And it would just break my heart because I had to leave. 82 00:03:58,030 --> 00:04:00,447 I had to go to work. 83 00:04:00,481 --> 00:04:03,173 When you got to class, you had to sneak away really 84 00:04:03,208 --> 00:04:07,108 quickly, get him involved in playing with a toy. 85 00:04:07,143 --> 00:04:10,008 When I asked his teacher how long he would be upset 86 00:04:10,042 --> 00:04:13,770 for after I left, the teacher said the crying would continue 87 00:04:13,805 --> 00:04:15,462 for about an hour. 88 00:04:15,496 --> 00:04:19,949 This went on the entire time he was in preschool. 89 00:04:19,983 --> 00:04:22,365 With Ryan, with the separation anxiety, we just thought, 90 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,746 he's a different kid. 91 00:04:23,780 --> 00:04:26,404 He completely acts completely different from his brother. 92 00:04:26,438 --> 00:04:28,682 Nicholas was always different. 93 00:04:28,716 --> 00:04:30,649 He would walk through the door and kind of wave 94 00:04:30,684 --> 00:04:32,617 as he's running down the hallway away from you. 95 00:04:32,651 --> 00:04:34,446 He was completely the opposite. 96 00:04:34,481 --> 00:04:37,656 We just chalked that up to he's just not comfortable 97 00:04:37,691 --> 00:04:42,247 being left alone, where Nicholas was absolutely fine with it. 98 00:04:42,282 --> 00:04:45,526 After working with three- and four-year-olds over the past 99 00:04:45,561 --> 00:04:48,805 three years, I've experienced some separation anxiety with 100 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:50,013 children. 101 00:04:50,048 --> 00:04:53,431 However, I've only seen one case where it has been 102 00:04:53,465 --> 00:04:57,124 to the extreme where Ryan was. 103 00:04:57,158 --> 00:05:00,610 He was afraid that he was going to be left there. 104 00:05:00,645 --> 00:05:03,579 When Ryan was experiencing the separation anxiety, 105 00:05:03,613 --> 00:05:06,858 he was feeling that I wasn't going to come back to pick him 106 00:05:06,892 --> 00:05:08,653 up. 107 00:05:08,687 --> 00:05:13,313 It made my husband and I feel upset. 108 00:05:13,347 --> 00:05:15,901 We didn't know what to do. 109 00:05:15,936 --> 00:05:18,145 We didn't know how to handle this. 110 00:05:18,179 --> 00:05:19,180 And it made me feel sad. 111 00:05:24,462 --> 00:05:30,191 We wondered why he would get so upset when we left. 112 00:05:30,226 --> 00:05:33,850 And when we found out the truth, it was devastating. 113 00:05:44,999 --> 00:05:46,311 My name is Joanna. 114 00:05:46,346 --> 00:05:47,761 My son's name is Aiden. 115 00:05:47,795 --> 00:05:49,797 He is six years old. 116 00:05:49,832 --> 00:05:51,523 I am a stay-at-home mom. 117 00:05:51,558 --> 00:05:53,663 And I live in Lowell, Massachusetts. 118 00:05:53,698 --> 00:05:55,493 I was born and raised here. 119 00:05:55,527 --> 00:05:58,150 I love it here, very comfortable here. 120 00:05:58,185 --> 00:05:59,738 There's lots of friendly people here. 121 00:05:59,773 --> 00:06:01,084 The schools are great. 122 00:06:01,119 --> 00:06:03,984 Lowell has been very up and coming. 123 00:06:04,018 --> 00:06:06,745 It grew from a small town to a really, really big town. 124 00:06:10,784 --> 00:06:14,443 When Aiden was a newborn, people would always come up 125 00:06:14,477 --> 00:06:16,376 to me, even strangers, and they would always 126 00:06:16,410 --> 00:06:20,483 comment on how well he was able to hold up his head at such 127 00:06:20,518 --> 00:06:21,622 an early age. 128 00:06:21,657 --> 00:06:24,349 After that, he started rolling over on his own. 129 00:06:24,384 --> 00:06:27,559 By the age of four months, he was drinking out of sippy cups. 130 00:06:27,594 --> 00:06:29,630 And by the time he turned to one, 131 00:06:29,665 --> 00:06:32,633 he could have a conversation with you. 132 00:06:32,668 --> 00:06:35,498 With Aiden, everything just happened much more quickly. 133 00:06:35,533 --> 00:06:37,224 My name is Marlin. 134 00:06:37,258 --> 00:06:41,331 I'm Aiden's other mom, and Joanna is my wife. 135 00:06:41,366 --> 00:06:45,991 When it was Aiden's physical and we bring Aiden to the doctors, 136 00:06:46,026 --> 00:06:48,235 he starts spelling all the letters 137 00:06:48,269 --> 00:06:50,202 that he saw on the wall. 138 00:06:50,237 --> 00:06:51,549 And I said, whoa. 139 00:06:51,583 --> 00:06:56,070 Even when the doctor hear him doing that, she was amazed. 140 00:06:56,105 --> 00:06:57,624 It was amazing. 141 00:06:57,658 --> 00:07:00,799 I was in shock when he started doing all that. 142 00:07:00,834 --> 00:07:02,767 I was really proud, you know, because I had 143 00:07:02,801 --> 00:07:04,803 this smart, intelligent kid. 144 00:07:04,838 --> 00:07:09,429 I've fostered over 100 children, all infants and toddlers. 145 00:07:09,463 --> 00:07:13,605 And compared to them, Aiden was far beyond. 146 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,057 His capabilities, his knowledge was so much more 147 00:07:17,091 --> 00:07:21,233 than any other normal child that I've ever seen. 148 00:07:21,268 --> 00:07:23,235 He was about a year old when we first 149 00:07:23,270 --> 00:07:25,341 noticed something unusual. 150 00:07:25,375 --> 00:07:27,136 We were all sitting in the living room. 151 00:07:27,170 --> 00:07:31,140 And Aiden seemed to be very spaced out in his own world. 152 00:07:31,174 --> 00:07:34,074 So my partner turns to Aiden and asks him, Aiden, 153 00:07:34,108 --> 00:07:35,765 what are you thinking about? 154 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,804 Aiden says that he was talking to God. 155 00:07:39,838 --> 00:07:43,773 So I asked him what was he talking to God about. 156 00:07:43,808 --> 00:07:48,226 And he says that he was asking God that in his next life, 157 00:07:48,260 --> 00:07:51,540 he wants to come back with the same family. 158 00:07:51,574 --> 00:07:53,921 We didn't understand exactly what he meant. 159 00:07:53,956 --> 00:07:55,923 What did he mean come back? 160 00:07:55,958 --> 00:07:58,339 I jump up, and I hug him. 161 00:07:58,374 --> 00:08:05,277 I feel amazing that he say that, that he want to come back. 162 00:08:05,312 --> 00:08:09,454 And I told him, I want you come back. 163 00:08:09,489 --> 00:08:12,112 But that was only the beginning. 164 00:08:12,146 --> 00:08:15,667 I noticed that when he was playing alone during the day, 165 00:08:15,702 --> 00:08:19,913 at times he would stare, sort of like if he was looking 166 00:08:19,947 --> 00:08:21,949 at someone else across from him. 167 00:08:21,984 --> 00:08:25,090 And he would just be talking, like having a conversation 168 00:08:25,125 --> 00:08:27,058 with someone. 169 00:08:27,092 --> 00:08:29,992 And at times, it seemed like he was arguing, sort of 170 00:08:30,026 --> 00:08:32,339 like arguing with another kid that was playing with him, 171 00:08:32,373 --> 00:08:34,410 but no one was there. 172 00:08:34,444 --> 00:08:37,102 At first, I didn't think much about it. 173 00:08:37,137 --> 00:08:39,829 I just thought he was playing pretend. 174 00:08:39,864 --> 00:08:42,280 But then as time went by, he just kept doing it. 175 00:08:42,314 --> 00:08:45,732 And it was something that was happening on a daily basis. 176 00:08:45,766 --> 00:08:48,424 And eventually, he started putting a name to it. 177 00:08:48,458 --> 00:08:51,841 And he would call the other person Sarah. 178 00:08:51,876 --> 00:08:53,843 At one time, I was in the kitchen cooking. 179 00:08:53,878 --> 00:08:56,570 And I asked him, Aiden, who's Sarah? 180 00:08:56,605 --> 00:09:01,195 And he looks at me kind of like in a way like, don't you know? 181 00:09:01,230 --> 00:09:03,543 And he just looks at me and says, Mom, it's Sarah. 182 00:09:03,577 --> 00:09:05,303 She's my sister. 183 00:09:05,337 --> 00:09:07,477 And I just looked at him and said, what do you mean? 184 00:09:07,512 --> 00:09:09,928 You don't have a sister named Sarah. 185 00:09:09,963 --> 00:09:14,519 And he just looks at me and says, yes, I do, Mom. 186 00:09:14,554 --> 00:09:18,074 One day, Aiden was doodling on a notepad. 187 00:09:18,109 --> 00:09:20,905 And all of a sudden, this commercial came up on TV. 188 00:09:20,939 --> 00:09:24,943 And Aiden just lifted his head up and said, oh, my mommy 189 00:09:24,978 --> 00:09:26,496 had hair like that. 190 00:09:26,531 --> 00:09:29,258 And I looked at him, and I said, what mommy? 191 00:09:29,292 --> 00:09:30,500 I don't have hair like that. 192 00:09:30,535 --> 00:09:32,399 He says, no, my other mommy. 193 00:09:32,433 --> 00:09:34,504 I'm married to another woman, so obviously I 194 00:09:34,539 --> 00:09:36,714 thought he was speaking about my partner. 195 00:09:36,748 --> 00:09:39,820 And I asked him, you mean, Mommy Marlin? 196 00:09:39,855 --> 00:09:44,135 And he says, no, not Mommy Marlin, my other mom. 197 00:09:44,169 --> 00:09:46,862 And I explained to him, Aiden, you came out of my belly. 198 00:09:46,896 --> 00:09:48,898 You have no other mommy except the two mommies 199 00:09:48,933 --> 00:09:50,624 you live with right now. 200 00:09:50,659 --> 00:09:53,972 And at that point he got very agitated. 201 00:09:54,007 --> 00:09:55,733 I was very confused. 202 00:09:55,767 --> 00:10:01,808 I didn't know if these were dreams he was having. 203 00:10:01,842 --> 00:10:03,085 I didn't know what was going on. 204 00:10:09,470 --> 00:10:12,301 My son, Ryan, had a very advanced vocabulary 205 00:10:12,335 --> 00:10:13,923 and was very mature. 206 00:10:13,958 --> 00:10:16,477 But every time we would drop him off at preschool, 207 00:10:16,512 --> 00:10:19,757 he would become hysterical. 208 00:10:19,791 --> 00:10:22,932 It was like he thought we were never going to see him again. 209 00:10:22,967 --> 00:10:23,830 Mommy, no! 210 00:10:31,561 --> 00:10:32,908 No parent wants to see their kid 211 00:10:32,942 --> 00:10:34,495 screaming and crying and being scared 212 00:10:34,530 --> 00:10:36,152 to be left in a classroom. 213 00:10:36,187 --> 00:10:37,533 I mean, that's just heartbreaking 214 00:10:37,567 --> 00:10:40,605 for anyone who has kids to know that their kid feels 215 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,159 unsafe and scared. 216 00:10:43,194 --> 00:10:44,954 You don't ever want that. 217 00:10:44,989 --> 00:10:47,198 I have this fearless child. 218 00:10:47,232 --> 00:10:50,339 And then all of a sudden he is just clinging to me for dear 219 00:10:50,373 --> 00:10:51,720 life. 220 00:10:51,754 --> 00:10:54,205 I couldn't figure out why he was afraid. 221 00:10:54,239 --> 00:10:57,139 And it made me feel sad. 222 00:10:57,173 --> 00:10:58,243 We didn't know what to do. 223 00:11:01,350 --> 00:11:05,595 One day, he came to me with something totally unexpected. 224 00:11:08,426 --> 00:11:12,085 When Ryan had just turned four, he looked up at me and said, 225 00:11:12,119 --> 00:11:16,606 you're the best mommy I've ever had. 226 00:11:16,641 --> 00:11:18,885 And I said, Ryan, I'm the only mommy you've ever had. 227 00:11:18,919 --> 00:11:21,266 And he-- mm-mm, he says. 228 00:11:21,301 --> 00:11:24,062 I had another mommy and daddy. 229 00:11:24,097 --> 00:11:25,270 And I said, you did? 230 00:11:25,305 --> 00:11:30,517 And he said, yeah, I picked you as my mommy. 231 00:11:30,551 --> 00:11:32,243 I said, how did you pick me as your mommy? 232 00:11:32,277 --> 00:11:34,659 He says, I followed you. 233 00:11:34,694 --> 00:11:35,936 I said, where did you follow me? 234 00:11:35,971 --> 00:11:37,904 He says, I followed your footsteps in the snow. 235 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:44,082 I couldn't believe what I was hearing. 236 00:11:44,117 --> 00:11:47,741 I was blown away, because Ryan had never seen snow. 237 00:11:47,776 --> 00:11:49,743 We live in Vegas. 238 00:11:49,778 --> 00:11:51,849 However, I am from the East Coast. 239 00:11:51,883 --> 00:11:55,231 I'm from Pennsylvania, where we have bad winters. 240 00:11:55,266 --> 00:11:58,787 And I have spent plenty of time walking in the snow. 241 00:11:58,821 --> 00:12:00,650 When Margie first told me what he had said 242 00:12:00,685 --> 00:12:02,860 and how he had found her going through the snow, 243 00:12:02,894 --> 00:12:05,345 that was pretty amazing to me. 244 00:12:05,379 --> 00:12:08,141 Little kids have fun making up stories and stuff. 245 00:12:08,175 --> 00:12:10,660 Being in preschool with a bunch of other little kids, 246 00:12:10,695 --> 00:12:13,560 you know, you never know if he's coming up with stories 247 00:12:13,594 --> 00:12:16,390 along with their stories and embellishing what he's already 248 00:12:16,425 --> 00:12:19,255 heard and regurgitating the information to us. 249 00:12:19,290 --> 00:12:22,017 So at first, you know, it's a little skepticism on my side, 250 00:12:22,051 --> 00:12:23,777 for sure. 251 00:12:23,812 --> 00:12:27,125 I'd never talked to Ryan about what happens to a person 252 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,230 before they're born. 253 00:12:28,264 --> 00:12:29,783 I didn't know where this was coming from. 254 00:12:34,374 --> 00:12:36,617 Ryan does have a lot of empathy for people, 255 00:12:36,652 --> 00:12:40,760 people who are less fortunate, people with disabilities, 256 00:12:40,794 --> 00:12:44,004 or people that are bullied. 257 00:12:44,039 --> 00:12:46,662 When I asked Ryan what he wanted to be when he was older, 258 00:12:46,696 --> 00:12:50,562 he said that he wanted to be in the military. 259 00:12:50,597 --> 00:12:54,256 He also said that he wanted to be a police officer. 260 00:12:54,290 --> 00:12:58,329 The two jobs that Ryan expressed an interest in 261 00:12:58,363 --> 00:13:01,366 was more about like protecting people. 262 00:13:01,401 --> 00:13:02,643 That's what he wanted to do. 263 00:13:02,678 --> 00:13:04,887 He wanted to protect people. 264 00:13:04,922 --> 00:13:07,717 Ryan has a grandfather that was in the military. 265 00:13:07,752 --> 00:13:11,445 But his grandpa never talked to him about the military. 266 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,275 There was no other family members 267 00:13:13,309 --> 00:13:16,623 that were police officers. 268 00:13:16,657 --> 00:13:21,041 So I didn't know where this interest was coming from. 269 00:13:21,076 --> 00:13:24,079 Soon I discovered why he had such a strong desire 270 00:13:24,113 --> 00:13:25,459 to help others. 271 00:13:25,494 --> 00:13:27,599 And the reason was more than I could handle. 272 00:13:37,195 --> 00:13:40,992 Our son Aiden spoke a lot about an imaginary friend named 273 00:13:41,027 --> 00:13:45,410 Sarah who he claimed was his sister. 274 00:13:45,445 --> 00:13:48,793 He said that he chose me, and he came back, 275 00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:50,070 and that's how he was born. 276 00:13:57,906 --> 00:14:00,322 And he looked at me and said, no, I did have 277 00:14:00,356 --> 00:14:03,394 another mom in my other house. 278 00:14:03,428 --> 00:14:05,327 And that really creeped me out a little bit. 279 00:14:05,361 --> 00:14:07,639 And I just look at him and say, what other house? 280 00:14:07,674 --> 00:14:09,952 This is the only house you've ever lived in. 281 00:14:09,987 --> 00:14:12,990 And he says, no, my other house, the light one 282 00:14:13,024 --> 00:14:14,923 with the dark blue shutters. 283 00:14:14,957 --> 00:14:16,476 My other room is there. 284 00:14:16,510 --> 00:14:17,304 My mom is there. 285 00:14:17,339 --> 00:14:18,443 My dad is there. 286 00:14:18,478 --> 00:14:22,413 And Sarah's there and so are my three cats. 287 00:14:22,447 --> 00:14:25,623 Aiden would always draw pictures of the other house. 288 00:14:25,657 --> 00:14:29,316 And he drew these pictures on more than one occasion. 289 00:14:29,351 --> 00:14:34,218 So when he explained all of this, it kind of shocked me. 290 00:14:34,252 --> 00:14:36,185 Each time, I would ask him the same thing 291 00:14:36,220 --> 00:14:38,187 to see if the story would change. 292 00:14:38,222 --> 00:14:40,776 It was always consistent. 293 00:14:40,810 --> 00:14:44,711 Whenever I would tell Aiden that his other family did not exist, 294 00:14:44,745 --> 00:14:48,370 that Sarah didn't exist, he would get very upset with me. 295 00:14:48,404 --> 00:14:51,925 And he would look at me with this emotion in his face, 296 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:52,892 like how could you? 297 00:14:52,926 --> 00:14:54,686 Or how dare you? 298 00:14:54,721 --> 00:14:57,966 And Aiden would always say, no, that was my family. 299 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,174 Sarah's my sister. 300 00:14:59,208 --> 00:15:01,348 And it's all real. 301 00:15:01,383 --> 00:15:04,386 I was very confused. 302 00:15:04,420 --> 00:15:07,734 It hurt my feelings when Aiden spoke about another family. 303 00:15:07,768 --> 00:15:12,152 But it didn't seem to affect him negatively, so I didn't worry. 304 00:15:12,187 --> 00:15:14,844 But then one night, everything changed. 305 00:15:14,879 --> 00:15:18,676 Aiden was never afraid of the dark before ever. 306 00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:21,541 But we were all sleeping in bed. 307 00:15:21,575 --> 00:15:23,025 And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, 308 00:15:23,060 --> 00:15:26,684 I just hear this really loud scream. 309 00:15:26,718 --> 00:15:29,618 I got up from bed, I ran upstairs to his bedroom. 310 00:15:29,652 --> 00:15:32,966 And I ran in there and asked him what's going on. 311 00:15:33,001 --> 00:15:35,969 And he was trembling, freaking out, and saying, 312 00:15:36,004 --> 00:15:36,936 Sarah scared me. 313 00:15:36,970 --> 00:15:39,179 Sarah scared me. 314 00:15:39,214 --> 00:15:40,663 I just went straight to his bed. 315 00:15:40,698 --> 00:15:43,218 I comforted him and told him everything was OK, that maybe 316 00:15:43,252 --> 00:15:44,529 he was having a nightmare. 317 00:15:44,564 --> 00:15:47,670 And he said, no, I was not having a nightmare. 318 00:15:47,705 --> 00:15:49,500 Sarah put on a mask, and she scared me. 319 00:15:49,534 --> 00:15:50,328 She's playing tricks. 320 00:15:54,056 --> 00:15:58,992 Sarah had-- she was putting on scary masks. 321 00:15:59,027 --> 00:16:03,790 It was like faces, like different faces of masks. 322 00:16:03,824 --> 00:16:07,380 She only scared me at night. 323 00:16:07,414 --> 00:16:10,141 Before, I didn't see Sarah as a threat. 324 00:16:10,176 --> 00:16:13,696 But this night, something just changed. 325 00:16:13,731 --> 00:16:15,698 He became afraid of the dark. 326 00:16:15,733 --> 00:16:18,874 And he'll call me into his room even with the lights on, 327 00:16:18,908 --> 00:16:20,427 and he'll tell me he's scared. 328 00:16:20,462 --> 00:16:24,121 It's completely different from how he used to be. 329 00:16:24,155 --> 00:16:26,709 I never took him to a therapist. 330 00:16:26,744 --> 00:16:30,851 It never crossed my mind of him having any mental issues. 331 00:16:30,886 --> 00:16:33,993 And as a mom, I feel very helpless. 332 00:16:34,027 --> 00:16:37,341 I just don't know what to do. 333 00:16:37,375 --> 00:16:41,931 After that night, Aiden told me that Sarah liked to play tricks 334 00:16:41,966 --> 00:16:43,554 on him all the time. 335 00:16:43,588 --> 00:16:46,867 And he refused to go back to his room alone. 336 00:16:46,902 --> 00:16:49,594 He kept saying, Sarah is going to scare me. 337 00:16:49,629 --> 00:16:51,941 So Aiden pretty much slept in our room 338 00:16:51,976 --> 00:16:55,635 for a long period of time. 339 00:16:55,669 --> 00:17:00,088 Nothing could have prepared me for what happened next. 340 00:17:00,122 --> 00:17:02,883 One day, Aiden and I were driving in the car. 341 00:17:02,918 --> 00:17:06,680 And Aiden was in the backseat talking to Sarah. 342 00:17:06,715 --> 00:17:11,064 And I asked him, Aiden, what are you and Sarah talking about? 343 00:17:11,099 --> 00:17:13,377 And he says, about when I died. 344 00:17:16,932 --> 00:17:18,278 That just freaked me out. 345 00:17:18,313 --> 00:17:23,076 I had no idea what to say to what he just told me. 346 00:17:23,111 --> 00:17:26,700 There's no possible way that Aidan could have overheard 347 00:17:26,735 --> 00:17:29,565 about reincarnation because we've never 348 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,602 taken our kids to church. 349 00:17:31,636 --> 00:17:34,708 I was raised in the Pentecostal religion. 350 00:17:34,743 --> 00:17:37,608 We were taught that once you die, you die, 351 00:17:37,642 --> 00:17:40,507 and that's it until God comes back, 352 00:17:40,542 --> 00:17:45,271 and he takes all the souls with him. 353 00:17:45,305 --> 00:17:48,998 Reincarnation is very taboo in the Latino culture. 354 00:17:49,033 --> 00:17:51,691 I would say especially more so in the religion 355 00:17:51,725 --> 00:17:54,073 that I was brought up in. 356 00:17:54,107 --> 00:17:57,214 Later, when I calmed down a bit, and I had some time to think, 357 00:17:57,248 --> 00:18:00,493 I wondered if this was what he was talking about with Sarah. 358 00:18:00,527 --> 00:18:02,805 Like, it wasn't make believe to him. 359 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,809 He really thought he had another life with another family. 360 00:18:06,844 --> 00:18:08,501 It scared me a little bit for him. 361 00:18:08,535 --> 00:18:09,916 I didn't know what to do. 362 00:18:09,950 --> 00:18:13,816 Then he scared me a lot when he told me what happened to him 363 00:18:13,851 --> 00:18:14,783 with the other family. 364 00:18:23,171 --> 00:18:25,380 Since my son Aiden could talk, he's 365 00:18:25,414 --> 00:18:28,659 always told me that he's had this other family and a sister 366 00:18:28,693 --> 00:18:29,763 named Sarah. 367 00:18:29,798 --> 00:18:33,457 But one night, he became terrified and told us 368 00:18:33,491 --> 00:18:35,148 that Sarah was scaring him. 369 00:18:35,183 --> 00:18:37,944 One day, Aiden and I were driving in the car. 370 00:18:37,978 --> 00:18:41,154 And Aiden was in the backseat talking to Sarah. 371 00:18:41,189 --> 00:18:45,054 I asked him, Aiden, what are you and Sarah talking about? 372 00:18:45,089 --> 00:18:48,403 And he says, about when I died. 373 00:18:48,437 --> 00:18:51,130 I honestly didn't know what to make of all of this. 374 00:18:59,068 --> 00:19:02,175 I asked him why he was here and Sarah was not. 375 00:19:02,210 --> 00:19:07,560 Aiden said, because his mom and dad were very mean to them. 376 00:19:07,594 --> 00:19:10,804 And that's how he died. 377 00:19:10,839 --> 00:19:15,257 When Aiden told me that he died because his parents were very 378 00:19:15,292 --> 00:19:18,467 bad to them, I didn't know what to think. 379 00:19:18,502 --> 00:19:21,125 I was in complete shock. 380 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,646 I began to sweat, yet my hands were cold. 381 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,613 I had to pull over the car. 382 00:19:26,648 --> 00:19:30,099 It was a total shock. 383 00:19:30,134 --> 00:19:34,345 Everybody in the world lives more than once. 384 00:19:34,380 --> 00:19:38,418 If you want to go to the same place of your life, 385 00:19:38,453 --> 00:19:41,180 you can tell God that when you die, 386 00:19:41,214 --> 00:19:45,460 if you want to go in your same family. 387 00:19:45,494 --> 00:19:47,945 I always knew he had an imaginary family. 388 00:19:47,979 --> 00:19:50,810 But I always thought it was harmless. 389 00:19:50,844 --> 00:19:54,296 That's when I noticed this is not just make-believe. 390 00:19:57,196 --> 00:19:59,750 Was he talking about being killed or hurt? 391 00:19:59,784 --> 00:20:01,959 What kind of images were in his head? 392 00:20:01,993 --> 00:20:06,791 Why was my 3-year-old son talking about death and dying? 393 00:20:06,826 --> 00:20:08,586 That's when everything changed. 394 00:20:08,621 --> 00:20:10,795 I wasn't sure what to think about it. 395 00:20:10,830 --> 00:20:14,937 But Aiden was very sure that this was happening 396 00:20:14,972 --> 00:20:16,870 and this was his past life. 397 00:20:16,905 --> 00:20:19,873 So that's what really mattered. 398 00:20:19,908 --> 00:20:24,292 When Aiden said his parent in his past life hurt him 399 00:20:24,326 --> 00:20:28,261 and that's why he died, it hurt me a lot. 400 00:20:28,296 --> 00:20:29,607 It was painful. 401 00:20:29,642 --> 00:20:33,473 I feel very bad for Aiden. 402 00:20:33,508 --> 00:20:36,476 When Aiden brought up his parents being bad 403 00:20:36,511 --> 00:20:38,582 and that's how him and Sarah died, 404 00:20:38,616 --> 00:20:40,825 he did seem a little sad that Sarah 405 00:20:40,860 --> 00:20:43,932 was not back in this world. 406 00:20:43,966 --> 00:20:46,279 As a mom, it really broke my heart 407 00:20:46,314 --> 00:20:48,695 not knowing what to do to help. 408 00:20:48,730 --> 00:20:51,284 You don't want your kids to be hurt. 409 00:20:51,319 --> 00:20:53,459 And listening to your son, your 3-year-old, 410 00:20:53,493 --> 00:20:57,083 speaking about death and dying, is one of the hardest things 411 00:20:57,117 --> 00:20:58,981 that you can go through as a parent. 412 00:21:02,226 --> 00:21:06,265 I didn't want to ask him much more detail about 413 00:21:06,299 --> 00:21:10,303 that because I was so confused myself that I didn't know 414 00:21:10,338 --> 00:21:15,066 if asking him would confuse him, bring up some emotion in him. 415 00:21:15,101 --> 00:21:16,344 So I just left it alone. 416 00:21:16,378 --> 00:21:19,761 But I started realizing that this really is happening, 417 00:21:19,795 --> 00:21:24,248 and Aiden is really having past-life memories. 418 00:21:36,364 --> 00:21:40,575 My son Ryan had severe separation anxiety. 419 00:21:40,609 --> 00:21:43,785 He told me that he remembers following my footsteps 420 00:21:43,819 --> 00:21:48,168 in the snow and choosing me as his mom. 421 00:21:57,385 --> 00:21:59,594 I was just starting to notice that there was something 422 00:21:59,628 --> 00:22:01,112 different about my son. 423 00:22:01,147 --> 00:22:03,701 I just didn't know what it was yet. 424 00:22:03,736 --> 00:22:07,256 One day, Ryan and I were out in the backyard. 425 00:22:07,291 --> 00:22:10,087 It was starting to turn dark. 426 00:22:10,121 --> 00:22:13,573 And Ryan was startled. 427 00:22:13,608 --> 00:22:15,230 He was trembling. 428 00:22:15,264 --> 00:22:16,956 He started crying. 429 00:22:16,990 --> 00:22:18,475 I didn't know why. 430 00:22:18,509 --> 00:22:20,580 He started pointing, don't you see that, Mommy? 431 00:22:20,615 --> 00:22:22,202 Don't you see that? 432 00:22:22,237 --> 00:22:23,859 And I said, see what? 433 00:22:23,894 --> 00:22:26,724 He says, that light, that light, the glowing light. 434 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:28,864 I said no, I don't see it. 435 00:22:28,899 --> 00:22:31,142 And he ran in the house. 436 00:22:31,177 --> 00:22:33,006 I couldn't see what Ryan was seeing. 437 00:22:33,041 --> 00:22:35,940 So I didn't understand why he was so upset. 438 00:22:39,185 --> 00:22:41,152 When she first mentioned that Ryan was seeing 439 00:22:41,187 --> 00:22:44,742 the glowing lights, I actually, you know, wasn't too sure-- 440 00:22:44,777 --> 00:22:47,089 little kids' imaginations, reflections 441 00:22:47,124 --> 00:22:51,404 on the wall from toys that light up, or computer screens, 442 00:22:51,439 --> 00:22:52,474 anything like that. 443 00:22:52,509 --> 00:22:56,271 So I didn't really pay it too much mind. 444 00:22:56,305 --> 00:22:59,101 When he first started seeing them, it was occasional. 445 00:22:59,136 --> 00:23:00,965 And then it became more often. 446 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,003 He would describe these lights as glowing colors, 447 00:23:04,037 --> 00:23:05,625 and they would surround him. 448 00:23:05,660 --> 00:23:07,972 They made him very afraid. 449 00:23:08,007 --> 00:23:12,736 At first, Ryan only saw the glowing lights outside. 450 00:23:12,770 --> 00:23:16,049 And then he started seeing them upstairs. 451 00:23:16,084 --> 00:23:20,847 And it made him fearful of being upstairs by himself. 452 00:23:20,882 --> 00:23:23,160 Ryan was a very brave kid. 453 00:23:23,194 --> 00:23:26,439 And the only other time that I've ever seen him 454 00:23:26,474 --> 00:23:28,752 terrified like this is when he was going 455 00:23:28,786 --> 00:23:30,478 through the separation anxiety. 456 00:23:30,512 --> 00:23:31,927 Don't go, Mommy! 457 00:23:31,962 --> 00:23:33,791 No. 458 00:23:33,826 --> 00:23:36,932 I didn't know what these lights were or what they meant. 459 00:23:36,967 --> 00:23:40,591 But I knew it wasn't normal for Ryan to make things up. 460 00:23:40,626 --> 00:23:44,284 So I knew what he was seeing and saying was true. 461 00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:45,941 I just didn't know what to do. 462 00:23:45,976 --> 00:23:46,908 It made me feel helpless. 463 00:23:49,842 --> 00:23:54,674 One day, he came to me with something so unexpected. 464 00:23:54,709 --> 00:23:58,540 I always encourage both my boys to speak with me openly. 465 00:23:58,575 --> 00:24:00,715 I just wanted them to know that they could always 466 00:24:00,749 --> 00:24:04,650 come to me with whatever they wanted to talk about. 467 00:24:04,684 --> 00:24:08,377 But then one day when Ryan told me that he had another family, 468 00:24:08,412 --> 00:24:09,102 I was shocked. 469 00:24:18,629 --> 00:24:20,528 When my son was a little boy, he 470 00:24:20,562 --> 00:24:23,323 used to cry hysterically when I left him at daycare. 471 00:24:23,358 --> 00:24:24,635 Don't go, Mommy! 472 00:24:24,670 --> 00:24:26,465 No. 473 00:24:26,499 --> 00:24:29,709 He told me that he remembered choosing me as his mother 474 00:24:29,744 --> 00:24:34,473 and had an intense need to protect others. 475 00:24:34,507 --> 00:24:37,372 And then one day, he saw glowing lights 476 00:24:37,406 --> 00:24:38,753 that no one else could see. 477 00:24:38,787 --> 00:24:40,686 He kept seeing them and couldn't understand 478 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,170 why no one else could see them. 479 00:24:50,143 --> 00:24:54,493 Ryan came to me and told me that he had a different mommy 480 00:24:54,527 --> 00:24:55,735 and daddy. 481 00:24:55,770 --> 00:24:58,186 When I asked him what happened to his mommy and daddy, 482 00:24:58,220 --> 00:25:03,329 he had told me that someone had come into his home 483 00:25:03,363 --> 00:25:07,402 and had shot his parents while they were in bed. 484 00:25:07,436 --> 00:25:11,130 He told me that his granny and his grandpa-- 485 00:25:11,164 --> 00:25:13,684 and these are titles that we didn't use, 486 00:25:13,719 --> 00:25:17,101 granny was not a title that we used-- took care of him. 487 00:25:17,136 --> 00:25:21,554 And they lived on a farm in a huge house. 488 00:25:21,589 --> 00:25:23,211 And they had six dogs. 489 00:25:23,245 --> 00:25:25,558 And the little dog used to ride in the back of the pickup 490 00:25:25,593 --> 00:25:27,456 truck. 491 00:25:27,491 --> 00:25:30,563 Ryan was telling me this story with no emotion. 492 00:25:30,598 --> 00:25:32,358 It was all just matter of fact. 493 00:25:32,392 --> 00:25:33,532 This is my story. 494 00:25:33,566 --> 00:25:35,326 This was my life. 495 00:25:35,361 --> 00:25:36,569 Ryan was so young. 496 00:25:36,604 --> 00:25:39,123 I couldn't understand where this was coming from. 497 00:25:39,158 --> 00:25:42,126 He didn't watch anything on television that was violent. 498 00:25:42,161 --> 00:25:44,853 We never exposed him to any violence. 499 00:25:44,888 --> 00:25:47,407 There was no one even in the family that ever talked 500 00:25:47,442 --> 00:25:49,271 about anything violent. 501 00:25:49,306 --> 00:25:53,621 When Ryan told me that his parents were shot in their bed, 502 00:25:53,655 --> 00:25:57,521 I said, my goodness, that's a terrible story. 503 00:25:57,556 --> 00:25:59,074 I didn't know what else to say. 504 00:25:59,109 --> 00:26:01,387 I was speechless. 505 00:26:01,421 --> 00:26:03,838 Ryan even had a name for himself. 506 00:26:03,872 --> 00:26:06,772 He told me that his name was Ed Johnson. 507 00:26:06,806 --> 00:26:08,014 My mouth dropped. 508 00:26:08,049 --> 00:26:09,084 I had goose bumps. 509 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,293 I couldn't believe what I was hearing. 510 00:26:11,328 --> 00:26:13,502 It sent chills up my spine. 511 00:26:13,537 --> 00:26:14,676 I didn't say anything. 512 00:26:14,711 --> 00:26:16,609 I didn't know what to say at that moment. 513 00:26:16,644 --> 00:26:21,303 I wondered why Ryan was very just nonchalant, matter of fact 514 00:26:21,338 --> 00:26:26,308 about the whole story, such a violent story. 515 00:26:26,343 --> 00:26:28,828 I was amazed by my son's confidence 516 00:26:28,863 --> 00:26:31,244 while sharing this information. 517 00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:35,179 Ryan had so many details to his story, which made the story all 518 00:26:35,214 --> 00:26:37,009 the more real to me. 519 00:26:37,043 --> 00:26:40,944 I began to wonder if my son was remembering a past life. 520 00:26:40,978 --> 00:26:42,014 I grew up Catholic. 521 00:26:42,048 --> 00:26:44,154 I went to church every Sunday. 522 00:26:44,188 --> 00:26:47,433 But reincarnation is something that we never talked about. 523 00:26:47,467 --> 00:26:49,331 But I was always curious. 524 00:26:49,366 --> 00:26:53,197 And because Ryan was so detailed with his information, 525 00:26:53,232 --> 00:26:54,751 it just made me all the more curious. 526 00:26:58,547 --> 00:27:01,136 When she first told me the story that Ryan spoke about, 527 00:27:01,171 --> 00:27:02,828 with him running in the back of the truck 528 00:27:02,862 --> 00:27:05,037 with his grandparents and the dogs, 529 00:27:05,071 --> 00:27:07,626 I originally believed, you know, that could have been 530 00:27:07,660 --> 00:27:10,007 a little story that he made up. 531 00:27:10,042 --> 00:27:12,872 So once Margie mentioned the story Ryan was telling 532 00:27:12,907 --> 00:27:15,357 in depth, especially about the murdered part, 533 00:27:15,392 --> 00:27:17,049 that was a little intense. 534 00:27:17,083 --> 00:27:19,603 For a little kid of three and four years old to be saying 535 00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:22,468 something along those lines was a little bit upsetting 536 00:27:22,502 --> 00:27:26,575 because at that time he was not allowed to watch any detective 537 00:27:26,610 --> 00:27:27,956 shows or murder mysteries. 538 00:27:27,991 --> 00:27:29,061 He was just too little. 539 00:27:29,095 --> 00:27:31,580 He was watching cartoon stuff, small things. 540 00:27:31,615 --> 00:27:34,825 I don't know where he would have heard something like that. 541 00:27:34,860 --> 00:27:39,209 After Ryan had told me the story, I was pretty disturbed. 542 00:27:39,243 --> 00:27:44,179 There was so many details, which led me to believe that this was 543 00:27:44,214 --> 00:27:45,456 the truth. 544 00:27:45,491 --> 00:27:50,116 Then all of a sudden his separation anxiety made sense. 545 00:27:50,151 --> 00:27:51,600 When we dropped him off at school, 546 00:27:51,635 --> 00:27:54,293 he was afraid he'd never see us again. 547 00:27:54,327 --> 00:27:58,642 The reason why he wanted to be in law enforcement made sense. 548 00:27:58,677 --> 00:28:01,472 And the fact that he could see things that most people could 549 00:28:01,507 --> 00:28:03,854 not finally made sense. 550 00:28:03,889 --> 00:28:06,305 He truly believed that he had a past life. 551 00:28:09,584 --> 00:28:12,725 When I heard the story firsthand from Ryan, 552 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,970 you kind of get a different feel on what exactly 553 00:28:16,004 --> 00:28:18,213 is being brought to you, the intensity of it. 554 00:28:18,248 --> 00:28:20,629 You kind of think there's something a little more to this 555 00:28:20,664 --> 00:28:22,528 than just a made-up tale. 556 00:28:22,562 --> 00:28:24,599 It's kind of tough for a three- and four-year-old 557 00:28:24,633 --> 00:28:26,566 to come up with detailed stuff. 558 00:28:26,601 --> 00:28:29,915 It's an absolute eye-opener when you see your child 559 00:28:29,949 --> 00:28:31,710 and hear from the child saying this 560 00:28:31,744 --> 00:28:34,367 to you in complete and open honesty 561 00:28:34,402 --> 00:28:36,818 that this is what happened, and this is who he was. 562 00:28:36,853 --> 00:28:39,441 And you sit there and you go, huh, OK, 563 00:28:39,476 --> 00:28:41,616 could be a little bit more to this. 564 00:28:41,650 --> 00:28:45,240 Ryan had very few memories of his past life 565 00:28:45,275 --> 00:28:50,107 except for the incident with his parents and details 566 00:28:50,142 --> 00:28:51,626 surrounding that. 567 00:28:51,660 --> 00:28:54,663 The thing that shocked me more is that he had a name. 568 00:28:54,698 --> 00:28:57,908 His name was Ed Johnson. 569 00:28:57,943 --> 00:29:00,531 I started to do some research, and I could not 570 00:29:00,566 --> 00:29:01,532 believe what I found. 571 00:29:08,263 --> 00:29:11,577 My son Ryan told me that he picked me to be his mom. 572 00:29:11,611 --> 00:29:13,199 But he really surprised me when he 573 00:29:13,234 --> 00:29:16,133 told me a story about a family that he had before. 574 00:29:16,168 --> 00:29:19,447 He told me they were shot and killed in their bed. 575 00:29:19,481 --> 00:29:21,483 But the thing that shocked me even more 576 00:29:21,518 --> 00:29:22,519 is that he had a name. 577 00:29:27,317 --> 00:29:29,940 It was devastating to hear this from my little boy. 578 00:29:33,564 --> 00:29:34,324 My name is Ryan. 579 00:29:34,358 --> 00:29:35,566 And I'm in sixth grade. 580 00:29:35,601 --> 00:29:37,914 I'm 11, and I live in Las Vegas. 581 00:29:37,948 --> 00:29:40,502 It is kind of cool that I've had a past life because, 582 00:29:40,537 --> 00:29:42,125 like, it's two lives. 583 00:29:42,159 --> 00:29:43,989 Not most people get that. 584 00:29:44,023 --> 00:29:47,233 And it's just kind of neat to like figure out who I was. 585 00:29:47,268 --> 00:29:50,892 I felt like Ryan had given me a good amount of information 586 00:29:50,927 --> 00:29:52,031 about his past. 587 00:29:52,066 --> 00:29:54,240 But I wanted to know more. 588 00:29:54,275 --> 00:29:56,035 So I started to do some research. 589 00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:57,830 I was able to find two stories that 590 00:29:57,865 --> 00:30:00,039 matched Ryan's descriptions. 591 00:30:00,074 --> 00:30:03,594 The first story, a 16-year-old was confused when her parents 592 00:30:03,629 --> 00:30:04,803 didn't get up. 593 00:30:04,837 --> 00:30:06,943 So she went into the room and found her parents 594 00:30:06,977 --> 00:30:09,083 shot and killed in bed. 595 00:30:09,117 --> 00:30:11,361 They were the parents of seven children. 596 00:30:11,395 --> 00:30:14,260 And there was a lot of similarities to Ryan's story, 597 00:30:14,295 --> 00:30:17,401 the way the parents were killed, and the fact that the seven 598 00:30:17,436 --> 00:30:21,716 children were sent with their relatives to live on a farm. 599 00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:25,340 Another story, the parents of three were shot in their bed. 600 00:30:25,375 --> 00:30:27,066 The killer let the children live. 601 00:30:27,101 --> 00:30:29,448 But unfortunately, the children overheard what 602 00:30:29,482 --> 00:30:32,554 was happening to their parents. 603 00:30:32,589 --> 00:30:34,073 When I share these stories with Ryan, 604 00:30:34,108 --> 00:30:36,904 I'm not going to share all the gory details with him. 605 00:30:36,938 --> 00:30:41,218 I'm going to give him names, era, places, 606 00:30:41,253 --> 00:30:43,980 and see if he has any connection with the stories. 607 00:30:46,914 --> 00:30:54,059 The first article took place in 1961 in Hartington, Arkansas. 608 00:30:54,093 --> 00:30:57,545 A 16-year-old girl who wondered why her parents did not 609 00:30:57,579 --> 00:31:02,757 get up and turn off their alarm found them dead in their bed. 610 00:31:02,791 --> 00:31:04,138 Wow. 611 00:31:04,172 --> 00:31:10,282 The second article took place in 1939 in Edinburgh, Indiana. 612 00:31:10,316 --> 00:31:13,872 At midnight, an intruder had come into the house 613 00:31:13,906 --> 00:31:16,046 and killed her mother and father. 614 00:31:16,081 --> 00:31:17,047 They were found in bed. 615 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,606 Hmm. 616 00:31:24,641 --> 00:31:26,229 I don't know. 617 00:31:26,263 --> 00:31:29,508 As Ryan has gotten older, his memories of a past life 618 00:31:29,542 --> 00:31:30,785 have faded. 619 00:31:30,819 --> 00:31:33,926 So there is a possibility that we may never connect. 620 00:31:33,961 --> 00:31:37,896 And Ryan will never, never know who he was in a past life. 621 00:31:37,930 --> 00:31:40,829 Does either one of these articles connect more to you? 622 00:31:40,864 --> 00:31:41,623 No. 623 00:31:41,658 --> 00:31:42,348 No? 624 00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:47,595 Although these stories were very similar to the stories 625 00:31:47,629 --> 00:31:50,046 that Ryan was telling me, none of these stories 626 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,256 had the name Ed Johnson. 627 00:31:53,290 --> 00:31:57,053 I'm very curious to find out who Ryan was in a past life-- 628 00:31:57,087 --> 00:31:59,607 who he was, what he did-- 629 00:31:59,641 --> 00:32:01,471 and then I can compare it to his life now. 630 00:32:04,715 --> 00:32:07,097 I'm going to continue to research. 631 00:32:07,132 --> 00:32:12,654 And even though I may never find the answers of who Ryan was 632 00:32:12,689 --> 00:32:16,003 in a past life, I am just so happy that I 633 00:32:16,037 --> 00:32:18,488 have an amazing special son this life. 634 00:32:27,946 --> 00:32:30,879 I would like to be a police officer because how my parents 635 00:32:30,914 --> 00:32:32,364 passed away in my past life. 636 00:32:32,398 --> 00:32:36,126 And I would like to prevent that from happening to other people. 637 00:32:36,161 --> 00:32:37,472 Ryan's a great kid. 638 00:32:37,507 --> 00:32:39,233 He's growing up strong. 639 00:32:39,267 --> 00:32:40,855 Tough little guy, love him to death, 640 00:32:40,889 --> 00:32:44,341 and just always want him to be happy and safe. 641 00:32:44,376 --> 00:32:46,930 Ryan saw my footsteps in the snow. 642 00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:50,796 And I see one of the best sons a mother could ever have. 643 00:33:02,049 --> 00:33:05,362 My son Aiden spoke about having another family. 644 00:33:05,397 --> 00:33:07,744 And he said that he died when his parents killed 645 00:33:07,778 --> 00:33:09,435 him and his sister. 646 00:33:09,470 --> 00:33:11,437 I honestly didn't know what to do. 647 00:33:11,472 --> 00:33:12,197 It freaked me out. 648 00:33:18,617 --> 00:33:21,482 I had no idea about past lives. 649 00:33:21,516 --> 00:33:24,485 So I didn't really have much to go on. 650 00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:28,489 And even worse, I had no way to help my son. 651 00:33:28,523 --> 00:33:30,422 So I went online to do some research 652 00:33:30,456 --> 00:33:32,493 to see what I could find. 653 00:33:32,527 --> 00:33:33,873 Well, a lot of the stories that I 654 00:33:33,908 --> 00:33:36,842 was reading about other kids and their past lives, 655 00:33:36,876 --> 00:33:38,257 it made a lot of sense. 656 00:33:38,292 --> 00:33:42,089 And it sounded a lot like Aiden. 657 00:33:42,123 --> 00:33:44,263 Other kids talking about coming back, 658 00:33:44,298 --> 00:33:46,507 kids talking about their other moms 659 00:33:46,541 --> 00:33:49,855 and picking their family, which is exactly what Aiden would 660 00:33:49,889 --> 00:33:51,063 say. 661 00:33:51,098 --> 00:33:52,858 Every time I read a different story, 662 00:33:52,892 --> 00:33:55,861 there was always something in there that just resonated 663 00:33:55,895 --> 00:33:58,450 with everything Aiden said. 664 00:33:58,484 --> 00:34:00,521 Once I started reading more and more, 665 00:34:00,555 --> 00:34:04,870 I started realizing that this really is happening. 666 00:34:04,904 --> 00:34:06,492 And I realized that he was actually 667 00:34:06,527 --> 00:34:09,081 talking about a past life. 668 00:34:09,116 --> 00:34:11,566 When I started reading all these stories, 669 00:34:11,601 --> 00:34:14,431 I felt some comfort in knowing that there's other people 670 00:34:14,466 --> 00:34:16,433 out there going through the same thing. 671 00:34:16,468 --> 00:34:19,885 And now I finally found some type of an outlet 672 00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:22,508 to be able to learn, to understand my child. 673 00:34:26,236 --> 00:34:29,239 One day, I just randomly decided to ask him 674 00:34:29,274 --> 00:34:32,484 what happened with Sarah because he doesn't seem to mention her 675 00:34:32,518 --> 00:34:34,486 as much as he used to. 676 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,558 And he just looked at me, and he looked kind of sad, 677 00:34:37,592 --> 00:34:41,182 and told me that he wasn't sure what happened, 678 00:34:41,217 --> 00:34:45,428 but she doesn't come visit him as much as she used to. 679 00:34:45,462 --> 00:34:50,122 I remember Sarah, but I haven't talked to her a while. 680 00:34:50,157 --> 00:34:52,676 After that, he just shrugged his shoulders. 681 00:34:52,711 --> 00:34:54,333 And he said, it's OK, because I know 682 00:34:54,368 --> 00:34:56,232 that she's with me anyways. 683 00:34:56,266 --> 00:34:58,441 But as he got older and I started learning more, 684 00:34:58,475 --> 00:35:02,376 I was worried that it might cause something that he might 685 00:35:02,410 --> 00:35:03,480 not be able to work through. 686 00:35:06,518 --> 00:35:08,036 Aiden is six years old now. 687 00:35:08,071 --> 00:35:11,039 And he still has problems sleeping. 688 00:35:11,074 --> 00:35:13,283 So I had to take him into the doctors. 689 00:35:13,318 --> 00:35:16,044 And they had to prescribe him melatonin. 690 00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:18,978 It's the only way to get him to sleep. 691 00:35:19,013 --> 00:35:22,637 Then one night, Joanna forget to give him the medicine. 692 00:35:22,672 --> 00:35:27,297 And then I walk to his room, and he was awake. 693 00:35:27,332 --> 00:35:30,335 And I said, yo, buddy, what are you doing awake at this time? 694 00:35:30,369 --> 00:35:32,544 And he said, Mommy, I was awake all night. 695 00:35:32,578 --> 00:35:34,304 I see the sun came out and everything. 696 00:35:34,339 --> 00:35:35,857 He don't sleep all through the night. 697 00:35:35,892 --> 00:35:37,169 He was awake. 698 00:35:37,204 --> 00:35:40,448 So while his past life memories are fading, 699 00:35:40,483 --> 00:35:44,072 the problems caused by his past life still remain. 700 00:35:44,107 --> 00:35:44,970 He needs to rest. 701 00:35:45,004 --> 00:35:46,385 He has to go to school. 702 00:35:46,420 --> 00:35:47,524 He need to learn. 703 00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:48,870 We need rest. 704 00:35:48,905 --> 00:35:52,219 My main concern for Aiden is if these memories are still 705 00:35:52,253 --> 00:35:56,084 around, how will they affect him in the future? 706 00:35:56,119 --> 00:35:57,983 But I'm not giving up. 707 00:35:58,017 --> 00:35:59,674 I need to find a way to help my son. 708 00:36:09,753 --> 00:36:12,549 My son Aiden told us that he had another family 709 00:36:12,584 --> 00:36:13,723 and was killed by his parents. 710 00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:18,728 I didn't know what to do. 711 00:36:18,762 --> 00:36:21,248 So I started researching online. 712 00:36:21,282 --> 00:36:22,870 And I realized that he was actually 713 00:36:22,904 --> 00:36:25,804 talking about a past life. 714 00:36:25,838 --> 00:36:28,703 Aiden is six now and still afraid of the dark. 715 00:36:28,738 --> 00:36:31,706 And he cannot sleep without medication. 716 00:36:31,741 --> 00:36:35,814 It's very difficult as a parent to listen to your child 717 00:36:35,848 --> 00:36:39,887 speaking about a past life memory or past life traumas 718 00:36:39,921 --> 00:36:42,441 and not knowing what to do, not having anyone 719 00:36:42,476 --> 00:36:45,720 to talk to about it and not knowing where to turn. 720 00:36:51,899 --> 00:36:55,558 Recently, we sat Aiden down to talk about his past life. 721 00:36:55,592 --> 00:36:59,078 But he got really emotional and angry about it. 722 00:36:59,113 --> 00:37:01,840 It seems like he's forgetting the memories, 723 00:37:01,874 --> 00:37:03,738 but he's still holding on to the emotions. 724 00:37:06,534 --> 00:37:12,333 I talk to God a little bit and have trouble sleeping at night. 725 00:37:12,368 --> 00:37:16,786 I saw Tan and her six-year-old son Brennan on "Ghost Inside My 726 00:37:16,820 --> 00:37:19,271 Child." 727 00:37:19,306 --> 00:37:24,000 When my son Brennan told me he fell off the roof and died, 728 00:37:24,034 --> 00:37:25,104 I didn't know what to think. 729 00:37:31,214 --> 00:37:33,354 I don't really know where to go with that. 730 00:37:33,389 --> 00:37:35,632 They don't really teach you that in parenting class-- 731 00:37:35,667 --> 00:37:37,151 what to do when your child tells you 732 00:37:37,185 --> 00:37:39,878 about a past-life experience. 733 00:37:39,912 --> 00:37:43,640 And I asked him, so when you fell off the roof, did it hurt? 734 00:37:43,675 --> 00:37:46,988 And he was like, yeah, it hurt. 735 00:37:47,023 --> 00:37:49,301 I fell off the roof and died. 736 00:37:52,753 --> 00:37:55,721 I saw lots of similarities between Brennan and Aiden. 737 00:37:55,756 --> 00:37:59,311 So I decided to reach out to her. 738 00:37:59,346 --> 00:38:03,867 I think it's important for Aiden to know that he is not alone 739 00:38:03,902 --> 00:38:06,732 and that there's other kids out there like him. 740 00:38:06,767 --> 00:38:11,150 And I find comfort in knowing that I'm not the only mom going 741 00:38:11,185 --> 00:38:14,706 through this and knowing that there's someone else out there 742 00:38:14,740 --> 00:38:16,363 that I can speak to. 743 00:38:16,397 --> 00:38:17,191 I'm Tan. 744 00:38:17,225 --> 00:38:18,399 I'm Brennan's mom. 745 00:38:18,434 --> 00:38:20,643 And we were invited here to Massachusetts by Joanna. 746 00:38:23,473 --> 00:38:25,337 Joanna thought it would be a good idea for us 747 00:38:25,372 --> 00:38:27,408 to get together because both of our sons 748 00:38:27,443 --> 00:38:30,894 have past-life experiences. 749 00:38:30,929 --> 00:38:32,655 Is that a pelican? 750 00:38:32,689 --> 00:38:33,725 I don't know. 751 00:38:33,759 --> 00:38:35,485 But it's so cute to see them together. 752 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,555 I know. 753 00:38:36,590 --> 00:38:38,419 I did tell Brennan a little bit about him 754 00:38:38,454 --> 00:38:43,217 and how we were meeting someone who remembered a previous life 755 00:38:43,251 --> 00:38:44,011 like he did. 756 00:38:44,045 --> 00:38:45,495 Does he still remember? 757 00:38:45,530 --> 00:38:46,600 He remembers pieces. 758 00:38:46,634 --> 00:38:47,394 Yeah. 759 00:38:47,428 --> 00:38:48,740 He remembers pieces. 760 00:38:48,774 --> 00:38:52,537 As he's gotten older he's not talking about it as much. 761 00:38:52,571 --> 00:38:54,297 Aiden will mention here and there stuff. 762 00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:56,989 But then when I try to ask him, he'll say he forgot, 763 00:38:57,024 --> 00:38:59,992 or, like, it brings up these kind of emotions in him 764 00:39:00,027 --> 00:39:02,616 that he refuses to talk about it. 765 00:39:02,650 --> 00:39:04,756 If he wants to have a conversation about it, 766 00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:08,656 just make it, you know, to where that he doesn't feel pressure. 767 00:39:08,691 --> 00:39:10,002 I did that with Brennan. 768 00:39:10,037 --> 00:39:12,867 There are times that I think he finds it kind of awkward. 769 00:39:12,902 --> 00:39:13,903 Yeah. 770 00:39:13,937 --> 00:39:14,938 And so I'll just say, well, you know, 771 00:39:14,973 --> 00:39:16,354 just tell me what you want me to know. 772 00:39:16,388 --> 00:39:18,252 You know, we can talk about it when you want to talk about it. 773 00:39:18,286 --> 00:39:19,046 It's fine. 774 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,185 It's no big deal. 775 00:39:20,219 --> 00:39:22,394 I'm glad that he and Brennan have met though. 776 00:39:22,429 --> 00:39:24,292 Me too. 777 00:39:24,327 --> 00:39:31,196 I was like falling down the stairs, and then I died. 778 00:39:31,230 --> 00:39:33,060 You fell down the stairs? 779 00:39:33,094 --> 00:39:35,407 It's sort of the same thing, falling off 780 00:39:35,442 --> 00:39:37,236 of 40-feet building. 781 00:39:37,271 --> 00:39:38,928 You don't remember much? 782 00:39:38,962 --> 00:39:39,860 Not that much. 783 00:39:39,894 --> 00:39:42,414 Neither do I. 784 00:39:42,449 --> 00:39:45,003 Aiden never told us he was pushed down the stairs. 785 00:39:45,037 --> 00:39:48,800 It's kind of sad to hear some things that we haven't heard 786 00:39:48,834 --> 00:39:51,906 before about his past life. 787 00:39:51,941 --> 00:39:55,841 But it's great that he felt so comfortable right away that he 788 00:39:55,876 --> 00:39:59,707 was able to open up and share these things with someone else. 789 00:39:59,742 --> 00:40:03,642 Because I never wanted to go into detail with Aiden 790 00:40:03,677 --> 00:40:05,989 about what happened because I was afraid 791 00:40:06,024 --> 00:40:08,820 what traumatic events happened in his life 792 00:40:08,854 --> 00:40:10,477 and what that might bring up. 793 00:40:10,511 --> 00:40:14,446 But having him open up to another child his age, 794 00:40:14,481 --> 00:40:18,623 and he was more comfortable, I think that was the most perfect 795 00:40:18,657 --> 00:40:20,970 way for him to be able to open up and speak more. 796 00:40:25,492 --> 00:40:27,701 I'm glad that you guys got to meet. 797 00:40:27,735 --> 00:40:30,428 And I'm pretty sure that you'll be friends 798 00:40:30,462 --> 00:40:32,499 for a really long time. 799 00:40:32,533 --> 00:40:35,053 Can you say thank you to Brennan for coming and meeting 800 00:40:35,087 --> 00:40:35,950 you? - Thank you. 801 00:40:35,985 --> 00:40:36,744 You're welcome. 802 00:40:36,779 --> 00:40:37,780 Oh. 803 00:40:37,814 --> 00:40:39,471 Are you happy that you came to see him? 804 00:40:39,506 --> 00:40:40,299 Yes. 805 00:40:40,334 --> 00:40:41,818 And I want to stay here longer. 806 00:40:41,853 --> 00:40:43,095 You want to stay here longer? 807 00:40:43,130 --> 00:40:43,958 Yes. 808 00:40:43,993 --> 00:40:44,752 I know. 809 00:40:44,787 --> 00:40:46,064 I do too. 810 00:40:46,098 --> 00:40:47,790 But the good thing is you both-- 811 00:40:47,824 --> 00:40:50,033 you can talk on the phone. 812 00:40:50,068 --> 00:40:51,828 And you can-- don't get upset. 813 00:40:51,863 --> 00:40:53,243 You can talk on the phone. 814 00:40:53,278 --> 00:40:55,004 You can email each other. 815 00:40:55,038 --> 00:40:56,523 Well, thank you for inviting us. 816 00:40:56,557 --> 00:40:57,351 Thank you. 817 00:40:57,385 --> 00:40:59,077 Thank you for coming. 818 00:40:59,111 --> 00:41:00,492 Thank you. 819 00:41:00,527 --> 00:41:02,736 Oh, give Brennan a hug. 820 00:41:02,770 --> 00:41:03,978 Oh. 821 00:41:04,013 --> 00:41:05,497 He's trying to pick him up. 822 00:41:14,368 --> 00:41:16,163 For me, it's important that Aiden 823 00:41:16,197 --> 00:41:19,200 feel safe and a lot of love. 824 00:41:19,235 --> 00:41:21,582 If he don't have it in the past life-- 825 00:41:21,617 --> 00:41:23,584 you're going to make me cry-- 826 00:41:23,619 --> 00:41:27,001 I want he feel it now, here in this one. 827 00:41:27,036 --> 00:41:29,038 His future that I see that he's going to be 828 00:41:29,072 --> 00:41:32,455 a happy boy and happy man. 829 00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:35,113 I just want Aiden to know that he's loved 830 00:41:35,147 --> 00:41:37,943 and that we believe him no matter what. 831 00:41:37,978 --> 00:41:41,360 And that we're never going to hurt him. 832 00:41:41,395 --> 00:41:46,538 And he's going to be happy and live a good life in this life. 833 00:41:46,573 --> 00:41:48,057 I love my family. 834 00:41:48,091 --> 00:41:52,268 I thanked God for letting me choose them. 65725

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