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He told me that someone
had come into his home
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and had shot his parents
while they were in bed.
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And he said that he died
when his parents killed him.
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I honestly didn't
know what to do.
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I said, how did you
pick me as your mommy?
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He says, I followed your
footsteps in the snow.
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He says that he was asking
God that in his next life
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he wants to come back
with the same family.
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He suffered from extreme
separation anxiety.
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All of a sudden, I just
hear this really loud scream.
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He started pointing.
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Don't you see that, Mommy?
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Don't you see that?
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And I said, see what?
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It's just
heartbreaking for anyone
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who has kids to know that their
kid feels unsafe and scared.
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I feel very helpless.
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And when we found out the
truth, it was devastating.
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My name is Margie.
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I live in Las Vegas, Nevada.
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I have two sons.
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Nicholas, he's 14.
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And Ryan, he's 11.
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We have shows, concerts,
the best restaurants.
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Vegas is really a great city
to see and do many things,
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as well as raise a family.
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Ryan was delivered by C-section.
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He was 6 pounds, 13 ounces.
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And I didn't have any
complications with my pregnancy
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or delivery.
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He was about two weeks early.
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It was almost like Ryan
couldn't wait to arrive.
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Ryan had a pretty
normal development,
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got his first tooth
at eight months.
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He started walking at 14 months.
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But he was a lot smaller
than our first son.
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From a very young
age, we noticed
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that Ryan was very intelligent.
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Hi.
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My name's Kerry.
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I am Ryan's father.
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Ryan has always had very
good language skills.
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He could speak very
clearly and very accurately
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on what he was describing to us.
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He had a big vocabulary and
could carry on a conversation
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with an adult with no problem.
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It was like we were speaking
to an adult and not a child.
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Many people were surprised
when they spoke with Ryan
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at how clearly he could speak.
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He was really quite
articulate for a little kid.
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It was interesting to hear
what he would have to say.
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He was very
mature for his age.
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Looking back, our
first child, Nick,
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he was very fearful
of a lot of things.
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Whereas Ryan had no fear.
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Ryan was very adventurous.
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He'd be the kid climbing
up a car, climbing up a tree,
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jumping off a wall, jumping
off the couch onto his brother.
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He was definitely fearless
to almost a fault.
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And he was definitely a
brave kid, loved to mix it up
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with the older boys.
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Even though he
was a bit smaller,
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he would always be right
in there with them all.
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Which made us think that
he's really different.
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He's unique.
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The first time we noticed
something unusual about Ryan
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is when he first
started preschool.
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He suffered from extreme
separation anxiety
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when we would drop
him off at school.
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He'd be fine in the car ride.
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But when you got
to the parking lot,
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that's when things started to
escalate, as far as him getting
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nervous or getting antsy.
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When I would walk
Ryan into the classroom,
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he would cling onto my leg and
say, don't leave, don't leave.
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Don't go, Mommy.
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No.
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He'd be in the
classroom with his hands
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up against the window.
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And he'd be turning
different shades of purple.
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And it would just break my
heart because I had to leave.
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I had to go to work.
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When you got to class,
you had to sneak away really
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quickly, get him involved
in playing with a toy.
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When I asked his teacher
how long he would be upset
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for after I left, the teacher
said the crying would continue
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for about an hour.
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This went on the entire
time he was in preschool.
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With Ryan, with the separation
anxiety, we just thought,
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he's a different kid.
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He completely acts completely
different from his brother.
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Nicholas was always different.
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He would walk through
the door and kind of wave
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as he's running down the
hallway away from you.
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He was completely the opposite.
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We just chalked that up to
he's just not comfortable
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being left alone, where Nicholas
was absolutely fine with it.
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After working with three- and
four-year-olds over the past
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three years, I've experienced
some separation anxiety with
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children.
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However, I've only seen
one case where it has been
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to the extreme where Ryan was.
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He was afraid that he was
going to be left there.
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When Ryan was experiencing
the separation anxiety,
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he was feeling that I wasn't
going to come back to pick him
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up.
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It made my husband
and I feel upset.
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We didn't know what to do.
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We didn't know how
to handle this.
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And it made me feel sad.
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We wondered why he would
get so upset when we left.
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And when we found out the
truth, it was devastating.
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My name is Joanna.
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My son's name is Aiden.
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He is six years old.
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I am a stay-at-home mom.
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And I live in Lowell,
Massachusetts.
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I was born and raised here.
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I love it here, very
comfortable here.
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There's lots of
friendly people here.
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The schools are great.
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Lowell has been
very up and coming.
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It grew from a small town to
a really, really big town.
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When Aiden was a newborn,
people would always come up
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to me, even strangers,
and they would always
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comment on how well he was able
to hold up his head at such
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an early age.
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After that, he started
rolling over on his own.
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By the age of four months, he
was drinking out of sippy cups.
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And by the time
he turned to one,
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he could have a
conversation with you.
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With Aiden, everything just
happened much more quickly.
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My name is Marlin.
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I'm Aiden's other mom,
and Joanna is my wife.
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When it was Aiden's physical and
we bring Aiden to the doctors,
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he starts spelling
all the letters
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that he saw on the wall.
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And I said, whoa.
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Even when the doctor hear him
doing that, she was amazed.
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It was amazing.
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I was in shock when he
started doing all that.
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I was really proud,
you know, because I had
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this smart, intelligent kid.
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I've fostered over 100 children,
all infants and toddlers.
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And compared to them,
Aiden was far beyond.
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His capabilities, his
knowledge was so much more
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than any other normal
child that I've ever seen.
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He was about a year
old when we first
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noticed something unusual.
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We were all sitting
in the living room.
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And Aiden seemed to be very
spaced out in his own world.
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So my partner turns to
Aiden and asks him, Aiden,
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what are you thinking about?
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Aiden says that he
was talking to God.
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So I asked him what was
he talking to God about.
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And he says that he was asking
God that in his next life,
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he wants to come back
with the same family.
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We didn't understand
exactly what he meant.
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What did he mean come back?
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I jump up, and I hug him.
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I feel amazing that he say
that, that he want to come back.
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And I told him, I
want you come back.
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But that was
only the beginning.
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I noticed that when he was
playing alone during the day,
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at times he would stare, sort
of like if he was looking
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at someone else across from him.
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And he would just be talking,
like having a conversation
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with someone.
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And at times, it seemed
like he was arguing, sort of
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like arguing with another kid
that was playing with him,
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but no one was there.
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At first, I didn't
think much about it.
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I just thought he
was playing pretend.
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But then as time went by,
he just kept doing it.
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And it was something that was
happening on a daily basis.
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And eventually, he started
putting a name to it.
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And he would call the
other person Sarah.
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At one time, I was in
the kitchen cooking.
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And I asked him,
Aiden, who's Sarah?
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And he looks at me kind of like
in a way like, don't you know?
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And he just looks at me
and says, Mom, it's Sarah.
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She's my sister.
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And I just looked at him
and said, what do you mean?
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You don't have a
sister named Sarah.
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And he just looks at me
and says, yes, I do, Mom.
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One day, Aiden was
doodling on a notepad.
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And all of a sudden, this
commercial came up on TV.
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And Aiden just lifted his
head up and said, oh, my mommy
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had hair like that.
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And I looked at him,
and I said, what mommy?
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I don't have hair like that.
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He says, no, my other mommy.
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I'm married to another
woman, so obviously I
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thought he was speaking
about my partner.
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And I asked him, you
mean, Mommy Marlin?
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And he says, no, not Mommy
Marlin, my other mom.
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And I explained to him, Aiden,
you came out of my belly.
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You have no other mommy
except the two mommies
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you live with right now.
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And at that point he
got very agitated.
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I was very confused.
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I didn't know if these
were dreams he was having.
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I didn't know what was going on.
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My son, Ryan, had a
very advanced vocabulary
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and was very mature.
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But every time we would
drop him off at preschool,
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he would become hysterical.
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It was like he thought we were
never going to see him again.
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Mommy, no!
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No parent wants
to see their kid
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screaming and crying
and being scared
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to be left in a classroom.
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I mean, that's
just heartbreaking
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for anyone who has kids to
know that their kid feels
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unsafe and scared.
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You don't ever want that.
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I have this fearless child.
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And then all of a sudden he is
just clinging to me for dear
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life.
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I couldn't figure out
why he was afraid.
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And it made me feel sad.
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We didn't know what to do.
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One day, he came to me with
something totally unexpected.
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When Ryan had just turned four,
he looked up at me and said,
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you're the best
mommy I've ever had.
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And I said, Ryan, I'm the
only mommy you've ever had.
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And he-- mm-mm, he says.
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I had another mommy and daddy.
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And I said, you did?
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And he said, yeah, I
picked you as my mommy.
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I said, how did you
pick me as your mommy?
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He says, I followed you.
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I said, where did you follow me?
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He says, I followed your
footsteps in the snow.
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I couldn't believe
what I was hearing.
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I was blown away, because
Ryan had never seen snow.
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We live in Vegas.
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However, I am from
the East Coast.
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I'm from Pennsylvania,
where we have bad winters.
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And I have spent plenty of
time walking in the snow.
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When Margie first
told me what he had said
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and how he had found her
going through the snow,
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that was pretty amazing to me.
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Little kids have fun making
up stories and stuff.
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Being in preschool with a
bunch of other little kids,
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you know, you never know if
he's coming up with stories
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along with their stories and
embellishing what he's already
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heard and regurgitating
the information to us.
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So at first, you know, it's a
little skepticism on my side,
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for sure.
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I'd never talked to Ryan
about what happens to a person
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before they're born.
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I didn't know where
this was coming from.
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Ryan does have a lot
of empathy for people,
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people who are less fortunate,
people with disabilities,
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or people that are bullied.
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When I asked Ryan what he
wanted to be when he was older,
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he said that he wanted
to be in the military.
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He also said that he wanted
to be a police officer.
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The two jobs that Ryan
expressed an interest in
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was more about like
protecting people.
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That's what he wanted to do.
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He wanted to protect people.
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Ryan has a grandfather
that was in the military.
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But his grandpa never talked
to him about the military.
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There was no other
family members
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that were police officers.
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So I didn't know where this
interest was coming from.
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Soon I discovered why he
had such a strong desire
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to help others.
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And the reason was more
than I could handle.
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Our son Aiden spoke a lot
about an imaginary friend named
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Sarah who he claimed
was his sister.
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He said that he chose
me, and he came back,
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and that's how he was born.
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And he looked at me and
said, no, I did have
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another mom in my other house.
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And that really creeped
me out a little bit.
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And I just look at him
and say, what other house?
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This is the only house
you've ever lived in.
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And he says, no, my other
house, the light one
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with the dark blue shutters.
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My other room is there.
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My mom is there.
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My dad is there.
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And Sarah's there and
so are my three cats.
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Aiden would always draw
pictures of the other house.
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And he drew these pictures
on more than one occasion.
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So when he explained all of
this, it kind of shocked me.
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Each time, I would
ask him the same thing
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to see if the
story would change.
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It was always consistent.
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Whenever I would tell Aiden that
his other family did not exist,
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that Sarah didn't exist, he
would get very upset with me.
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And he would look at me with
this emotion in his face,
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like how could you?
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Or how dare you?
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And Aiden would always say,
no, that was my family.
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Sarah's my sister.
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And it's all real.
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I was very confused.
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It hurt my feelings when Aiden
spoke about another family.
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But it didn't seem to affect him
negatively, so I didn't worry.
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But then one night,
everything changed.
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Aiden was never afraid
of the dark before ever.
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But we were all sleeping in bed.
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And all of a sudden,
out of nowhere,
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I just hear this
really loud scream.
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I got up from bed, I ran
upstairs to his bedroom.
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And I ran in there and
asked him what's going on.
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And he was trembling,
freaking out, and saying,
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Sarah scared me.
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Sarah scared me.
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I just went straight to his bed.
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I comforted him and told him
everything was OK, that maybe
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he was having a nightmare.
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And he said, no, I was
not having a nightmare.
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Sarah put on a mask,
and she scared me.
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She's playing tricks.
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Sarah had-- she was
putting on scary masks.
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It was like faces, like
different faces of masks.
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She only scared me at night.
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Before, I didn't
see Sarah as a threat.
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But this night,
something just changed.
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He became afraid of the dark.
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And he'll call me into his
room even with the lights on,
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and he'll tell me he's scared.
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It's completely different
from how he used to be.
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I never took him to a therapist.
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It never crossed my mind of
him having any mental issues.
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And as a mom, I
feel very helpless.
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I just don't know what to do.
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After that night, Aiden told me
that Sarah liked to play tricks
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on him all the time.
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And he refused to go
back to his room alone.
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He kept saying, Sarah
is going to scare me.
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So Aiden pretty much
slept in our room
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for a long period of time.
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Nothing could have prepared
me for what happened next.
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One day, Aiden and I
were driving in the car.
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And Aiden was in the
backseat talking to Sarah.
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And I asked him, Aiden, what
are you and Sarah talking about?
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And he says, about when I died.
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That just freaked me out.
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I had no idea what to say
to what he just told me.
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There's no possible way that
Aidan could have overheard
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about reincarnation
because we've never
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taken our kids to church.
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I was raised in the
Pentecostal religion.
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We were taught that
once you die, you die,
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and that's it until
God comes back,
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and he takes all
the souls with him.
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Reincarnation is very taboo
in the Latino culture.
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I would say especially
more so in the religion
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that I was brought up in.
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Later, when I calmed down a bit,
and I had some time to think,
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I wondered if this was what he
was talking about with Sarah.
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Like, it wasn't
make believe to him.
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He really thought he had another
life with another family.
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It scared me a
little bit for him.
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I didn't know what to do.
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Then he scared me a lot when
he told me what happened to him
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with the other family.
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Since my son Aiden
could talk, he's
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always told me that he's had
this other family and a sister
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named Sarah.
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But one night, he became
terrified and told us
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that Sarah was scaring him.
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One day, Aiden and I
were driving in the car.
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And Aiden was in the
backseat talking to Sarah.
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I asked him, Aiden, what are
you and Sarah talking about?
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And he says, about when I died.
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I honestly didn't know what
to make of all of this.
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I asked him why he was
here and Sarah was not.
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Aiden said, because his mom
and dad were very mean to them.
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And that's how he died.
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When Aiden told me that he died
because his parents were very
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bad to them, I didn't
know what to think.
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I was in complete shock.
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I began to sweat, yet
my hands were cold.
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I had to pull over the car.
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It was a total shock.
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Everybody in the world
lives more than once.
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If you want to go to the
same place of your life,
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you can tell God
that when you die,
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if you want to go
in your same family.
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I always knew he had
an imaginary family.
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But I always thought
it was harmless.
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That's when I noticed this
is not just make-believe.
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Was he talking about
being killed or hurt?
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What kind of images
were in his head?
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Why was my 3-year-old son
talking about death and dying?
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That's when everything changed.
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I wasn't sure what
to think about it.
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But Aiden was very sure
that this was happening
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and this was his past life.
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So that's what really mattered.
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When Aiden said his parent
in his past life hurt him
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and that's why he
died, it hurt me a lot.
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It was painful.
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00:20:29,642 --> 00:20:33,473
I feel very bad for Aiden.
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When Aiden brought up
his parents being bad
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and that's how him
and Sarah died,
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he did seem a little
sad that Sarah
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was not back in this world.
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As a mom, it really
broke my heart
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not knowing what to do to help.
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You don't want your
kids to be hurt.
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And listening to your
son, your 3-year-old,
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speaking about death and dying,
is one of the hardest things
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that you can go
through as a parent.
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I didn't want to ask him
much more detail about
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that because I was so confused
myself that I didn't know
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if asking him would confuse him,
bring up some emotion in him.
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So I just left it alone.
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But I started realizing that
this really is happening,
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and Aiden is really
having past-life memories.
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My son Ryan had severe
separation anxiety.
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He told me that he remembers
following my footsteps
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in the snow and
choosing me as his mom.
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I was just starting to notice
that there was something
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different about my son.
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I just didn't know
what it was yet.
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One day, Ryan and I were
out in the backyard.
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It was starting to turn dark.
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And Ryan was startled.
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He was trembling.
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He started crying.
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I didn't know why.
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He started pointing,
don't you see that, Mommy?
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00:22:20,615 --> 00:22:22,202
Don't you see that?
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And I said, see what?
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He says, that light, that
light, the glowing light.
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I said no, I don't see it.
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00:22:28,899 --> 00:22:31,142
And he ran in the house.
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00:22:31,177 --> 00:22:33,006
I couldn't see what
Ryan was seeing.
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So I didn't understand
why he was so upset.
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When she first mentioned
that Ryan was seeing
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the glowing lights, I actually,
you know, wasn't too sure--
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little kids'
imaginations, reflections
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on the wall from toys that
light up, or computer screens,
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anything like that.
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So I didn't really
pay it too much mind.
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When he first started seeing
them, it was occasional.
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And then it became more often.
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He would describe these
lights as glowing colors,
447
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and they would surround him.
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00:23:05,660 --> 00:23:07,972
They made him very afraid.
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00:23:08,007 --> 00:23:12,736
At first, Ryan only saw
the glowing lights outside.
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And then he started
seeing them upstairs.
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And it made him fearful of
being upstairs by himself.
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Ryan was a very brave kid.
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And the only other time
that I've ever seen him
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terrified like this
is when he was going
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through the separation anxiety.
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Don't go, Mommy!
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No.
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I didn't know what these
lights were or what they meant.
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But I knew it wasn't normal
for Ryan to make things up.
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So I knew what he was
seeing and saying was true.
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I just didn't know what to do.
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00:23:45,976 --> 00:23:46,908
It made me feel helpless.
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One day, he came to me with
something so unexpected.
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I always encourage both my
boys to speak with me openly.
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I just wanted them to know
that they could always
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come to me with whatever
they wanted to talk about.
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00:24:04,684 --> 00:24:08,377
But then one day when Ryan told
me that he had another family,
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I was shocked.
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When my son was
a little boy, he
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used to cry hysterically
when I left him at daycare.
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Don't go, Mommy!
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No.
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He told me that he remembered
choosing me as his mother
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and had an intense
need to protect others.
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And then one day, he
saw glowing lights
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that no one else could see.
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He kept seeing them
and couldn't understand
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why no one else could see them.
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Ryan came to me and told me
that he had a different mommy
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and daddy.
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When I asked him what happened
to his mommy and daddy,
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he had told me that someone
had come into his home
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and had shot his parents
while they were in bed.
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00:25:07,436 --> 00:25:11,130
He told me that his
granny and his grandpa--
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and these are titles
that we didn't use,
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granny was not a title that
we used-- took care of him.
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And they lived on a
farm in a huge house.
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And they had six dogs.
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And the little dog used to
ride in the back of the pickup
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truck.
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00:25:27,491 --> 00:25:30,563
Ryan was telling me this
story with no emotion.
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It was all just matter of fact.
493
00:25:32,392 --> 00:25:33,532
This is my story.
494
00:25:33,566 --> 00:25:35,326
This was my life.
495
00:25:35,361 --> 00:25:36,569
Ryan was so young.
496
00:25:36,604 --> 00:25:39,123
I couldn't understand
where this was coming from.
497
00:25:39,158 --> 00:25:42,126
He didn't watch anything on
television that was violent.
498
00:25:42,161 --> 00:25:44,853
We never exposed
him to any violence.
499
00:25:44,888 --> 00:25:47,407
There was no one even in
the family that ever talked
500
00:25:47,442 --> 00:25:49,271
about anything violent.
501
00:25:49,306 --> 00:25:53,621
When Ryan told me that his
parents were shot in their bed,
502
00:25:53,655 --> 00:25:57,521
I said, my goodness,
that's a terrible story.
503
00:25:57,556 --> 00:25:59,074
I didn't know what else to say.
504
00:25:59,109 --> 00:26:01,387
I was speechless.
505
00:26:01,421 --> 00:26:03,838
Ryan even had a
name for himself.
506
00:26:03,872 --> 00:26:06,772
He told me that his
name was Ed Johnson.
507
00:26:06,806 --> 00:26:08,014
My mouth dropped.
508
00:26:08,049 --> 00:26:09,084
I had goose bumps.
509
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,293
I couldn't believe
what I was hearing.
510
00:26:11,328 --> 00:26:13,502
It sent chills up my spine.
511
00:26:13,537 --> 00:26:14,676
I didn't say anything.
512
00:26:14,711 --> 00:26:16,609
I didn't know what to
say at that moment.
513
00:26:16,644 --> 00:26:21,303
I wondered why Ryan was very
just nonchalant, matter of fact
514
00:26:21,338 --> 00:26:26,308
about the whole story,
such a violent story.
515
00:26:26,343 --> 00:26:28,828
I was amazed by my
son's confidence
516
00:26:28,863 --> 00:26:31,244
while sharing this information.
517
00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:35,179
Ryan had so many details to his
story, which made the story all
518
00:26:35,214 --> 00:26:37,009
the more real to me.
519
00:26:37,043 --> 00:26:40,944
I began to wonder if my son
was remembering a past life.
520
00:26:40,978 --> 00:26:42,014
I grew up Catholic.
521
00:26:42,048 --> 00:26:44,154
I went to church every Sunday.
522
00:26:44,188 --> 00:26:47,433
But reincarnation is something
that we never talked about.
523
00:26:47,467 --> 00:26:49,331
But I was always curious.
524
00:26:49,366 --> 00:26:53,197
And because Ryan was so
detailed with his information,
525
00:26:53,232 --> 00:26:54,751
it just made me all
the more curious.
526
00:26:58,547 --> 00:27:01,136
When she first told me the
story that Ryan spoke about,
527
00:27:01,171 --> 00:27:02,828
with him running in
the back of the truck
528
00:27:02,862 --> 00:27:05,037
with his grandparents
and the dogs,
529
00:27:05,071 --> 00:27:07,626
I originally believed, you
know, that could have been
530
00:27:07,660 --> 00:27:10,007
a little story that he made up.
531
00:27:10,042 --> 00:27:12,872
So once Margie mentioned
the story Ryan was telling
532
00:27:12,907 --> 00:27:15,357
in depth, especially
about the murdered part,
533
00:27:15,392 --> 00:27:17,049
that was a little intense.
534
00:27:17,083 --> 00:27:19,603
For a little kid of three and
four years old to be saying
535
00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:22,468
something along those lines
was a little bit upsetting
536
00:27:22,502 --> 00:27:26,575
because at that time he was not
allowed to watch any detective
537
00:27:26,610 --> 00:27:27,956
shows or murder mysteries.
538
00:27:27,991 --> 00:27:29,061
He was just too little.
539
00:27:29,095 --> 00:27:31,580
He was watching cartoon
stuff, small things.
540
00:27:31,615 --> 00:27:34,825
I don't know where he would
have heard something like that.
541
00:27:34,860 --> 00:27:39,209
After Ryan had told me the
story, I was pretty disturbed.
542
00:27:39,243 --> 00:27:44,179
There was so many details, which
led me to believe that this was
543
00:27:44,214 --> 00:27:45,456
the truth.
544
00:27:45,491 --> 00:27:50,116
Then all of a sudden his
separation anxiety made sense.
545
00:27:50,151 --> 00:27:51,600
When we dropped
him off at school,
546
00:27:51,635 --> 00:27:54,293
he was afraid he'd
never see us again.
547
00:27:54,327 --> 00:27:58,642
The reason why he wanted to be
in law enforcement made sense.
548
00:27:58,677 --> 00:28:01,472
And the fact that he could see
things that most people could
549
00:28:01,507 --> 00:28:03,854
not finally made sense.
550
00:28:03,889 --> 00:28:06,305
He truly believed that
he had a past life.
551
00:28:09,584 --> 00:28:12,725
When I heard the story
firsthand from Ryan,
552
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,970
you kind of get a different
feel on what exactly
553
00:28:16,004 --> 00:28:18,213
is being brought to you,
the intensity of it.
554
00:28:18,248 --> 00:28:20,629
You kind of think there's
something a little more to this
555
00:28:20,664 --> 00:28:22,528
than just a made-up tale.
556
00:28:22,562 --> 00:28:24,599
It's kind of tough for a
three- and four-year-old
557
00:28:24,633 --> 00:28:26,566
to come up with detailed stuff.
558
00:28:26,601 --> 00:28:29,915
It's an absolute eye-opener
when you see your child
559
00:28:29,949 --> 00:28:31,710
and hear from the
child saying this
560
00:28:31,744 --> 00:28:34,367
to you in complete
and open honesty
561
00:28:34,402 --> 00:28:36,818
that this is what happened,
and this is who he was.
562
00:28:36,853 --> 00:28:39,441
And you sit there
and you go, huh, OK,
563
00:28:39,476 --> 00:28:41,616
could be a little
bit more to this.
564
00:28:41,650 --> 00:28:45,240
Ryan had very few
memories of his past life
565
00:28:45,275 --> 00:28:50,107
except for the incident
with his parents and details
566
00:28:50,142 --> 00:28:51,626
surrounding that.
567
00:28:51,660 --> 00:28:54,663
The thing that shocked me
more is that he had a name.
568
00:28:54,698 --> 00:28:57,908
His name was Ed Johnson.
569
00:28:57,943 --> 00:29:00,531
I started to do some
research, and I could not
570
00:29:00,566 --> 00:29:01,532
believe what I found.
571
00:29:08,263 --> 00:29:11,577
My son Ryan told me that
he picked me to be his mom.
572
00:29:11,611 --> 00:29:13,199
But he really
surprised me when he
573
00:29:13,234 --> 00:29:16,133
told me a story about a
family that he had before.
574
00:29:16,168 --> 00:29:19,447
He told me they were shot
and killed in their bed.
575
00:29:19,481 --> 00:29:21,483
But the thing that
shocked me even more
576
00:29:21,518 --> 00:29:22,519
is that he had a name.
577
00:29:27,317 --> 00:29:29,940
It was devastating to hear
this from my little boy.
578
00:29:33,564 --> 00:29:34,324
My name is Ryan.
579
00:29:34,358 --> 00:29:35,566
And I'm in sixth grade.
580
00:29:35,601 --> 00:29:37,914
I'm 11, and I live in Las Vegas.
581
00:29:37,948 --> 00:29:40,502
It is kind of cool that I've
had a past life because,
582
00:29:40,537 --> 00:29:42,125
like, it's two lives.
583
00:29:42,159 --> 00:29:43,989
Not most people get that.
584
00:29:44,023 --> 00:29:47,233
And it's just kind of neat
to like figure out who I was.
585
00:29:47,268 --> 00:29:50,892
I felt like Ryan had given
me a good amount of information
586
00:29:50,927 --> 00:29:52,031
about his past.
587
00:29:52,066 --> 00:29:54,240
But I wanted to know more.
588
00:29:54,275 --> 00:29:56,035
So I started to
do some research.
589
00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:57,830
I was able to find
two stories that
590
00:29:57,865 --> 00:30:00,039
matched Ryan's descriptions.
591
00:30:00,074 --> 00:30:03,594
The first story, a 16-year-old
was confused when her parents
592
00:30:03,629 --> 00:30:04,803
didn't get up.
593
00:30:04,837 --> 00:30:06,943
So she went into the room
and found her parents
594
00:30:06,977 --> 00:30:09,083
shot and killed in bed.
595
00:30:09,117 --> 00:30:11,361
They were the parents
of seven children.
596
00:30:11,395 --> 00:30:14,260
And there was a lot of
similarities to Ryan's story,
597
00:30:14,295 --> 00:30:17,401
the way the parents were killed,
and the fact that the seven
598
00:30:17,436 --> 00:30:21,716
children were sent with their
relatives to live on a farm.
599
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:25,340
Another story, the parents of
three were shot in their bed.
600
00:30:25,375 --> 00:30:27,066
The killer let
the children live.
601
00:30:27,101 --> 00:30:29,448
But unfortunately, the
children overheard what
602
00:30:29,482 --> 00:30:32,554
was happening to their parents.
603
00:30:32,589 --> 00:30:34,073
When I share these
stories with Ryan,
604
00:30:34,108 --> 00:30:36,904
I'm not going to share all
the gory details with him.
605
00:30:36,938 --> 00:30:41,218
I'm going to give him
names, era, places,
606
00:30:41,253 --> 00:30:43,980
and see if he has any
connection with the stories.
607
00:30:46,914 --> 00:30:54,059
The first article took place in
1961 in Hartington, Arkansas.
608
00:30:54,093 --> 00:30:57,545
A 16-year-old girl who wondered
why her parents did not
609
00:30:57,579 --> 00:31:02,757
get up and turn off their alarm
found them dead in their bed.
610
00:31:02,791 --> 00:31:04,138
Wow.
611
00:31:04,172 --> 00:31:10,282
The second article took place
in 1939 in Edinburgh, Indiana.
612
00:31:10,316 --> 00:31:13,872
At midnight, an intruder
had come into the house
613
00:31:13,906 --> 00:31:16,046
and killed her
mother and father.
614
00:31:16,081 --> 00:31:17,047
They were found in bed.
615
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,606
Hmm.
616
00:31:24,641 --> 00:31:26,229
I don't know.
617
00:31:26,263 --> 00:31:29,508
As Ryan has gotten older,
his memories of a past life
618
00:31:29,542 --> 00:31:30,785
have faded.
619
00:31:30,819 --> 00:31:33,926
So there is a possibility
that we may never connect.
620
00:31:33,961 --> 00:31:37,896
And Ryan will never, never
know who he was in a past life.
621
00:31:37,930 --> 00:31:40,829
Does either one of these
articles connect more to you?
622
00:31:40,864 --> 00:31:41,623
No.
623
00:31:41,658 --> 00:31:42,348
No?
624
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:47,595
Although these stories were
very similar to the stories
625
00:31:47,629 --> 00:31:50,046
that Ryan was telling
me, none of these stories
626
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,256
had the name Ed Johnson.
627
00:31:53,290 --> 00:31:57,053
I'm very curious to find out
who Ryan was in a past life--
628
00:31:57,087 --> 00:31:59,607
who he was, what he did--
629
00:31:59,641 --> 00:32:01,471
and then I can compare
it to his life now.
630
00:32:04,715 --> 00:32:07,097
I'm going to
continue to research.
631
00:32:07,132 --> 00:32:12,654
And even though I may never
find the answers of who Ryan was
632
00:32:12,689 --> 00:32:16,003
in a past life, I am
just so happy that I
633
00:32:16,037 --> 00:32:18,488
have an amazing
special son this life.
634
00:32:27,946 --> 00:32:30,879
I would like to be a police
officer because how my parents
635
00:32:30,914 --> 00:32:32,364
passed away in my past life.
636
00:32:32,398 --> 00:32:36,126
And I would like to prevent that
from happening to other people.
637
00:32:36,161 --> 00:32:37,472
Ryan's a great kid.
638
00:32:37,507 --> 00:32:39,233
He's growing up strong.
639
00:32:39,267 --> 00:32:40,855
Tough little guy,
love him to death,
640
00:32:40,889 --> 00:32:44,341
and just always want him
to be happy and safe.
641
00:32:44,376 --> 00:32:46,930
Ryan saw my
footsteps in the snow.
642
00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:50,796
And I see one of the best
sons a mother could ever have.
643
00:33:02,049 --> 00:33:05,362
My son Aiden spoke about
having another family.
644
00:33:05,397 --> 00:33:07,744
And he said that he died
when his parents killed
645
00:33:07,778 --> 00:33:09,435
him and his sister.
646
00:33:09,470 --> 00:33:11,437
I honestly didn't
know what to do.
647
00:33:11,472 --> 00:33:12,197
It freaked me out.
648
00:33:18,617 --> 00:33:21,482
I had no idea about past lives.
649
00:33:21,516 --> 00:33:24,485
So I didn't really
have much to go on.
650
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:28,489
And even worse, I had
no way to help my son.
651
00:33:28,523 --> 00:33:30,422
So I went online
to do some research
652
00:33:30,456 --> 00:33:32,493
to see what I could find.
653
00:33:32,527 --> 00:33:33,873
Well, a lot of
the stories that I
654
00:33:33,908 --> 00:33:36,842
was reading about other
kids and their past lives,
655
00:33:36,876 --> 00:33:38,257
it made a lot of sense.
656
00:33:38,292 --> 00:33:42,089
And it sounded a lot like Aiden.
657
00:33:42,123 --> 00:33:44,263
Other kids talking
about coming back,
658
00:33:44,298 --> 00:33:46,507
kids talking about
their other moms
659
00:33:46,541 --> 00:33:49,855
and picking their family, which
is exactly what Aiden would
660
00:33:49,889 --> 00:33:51,063
say.
661
00:33:51,098 --> 00:33:52,858
Every time I read
a different story,
662
00:33:52,892 --> 00:33:55,861
there was always something
in there that just resonated
663
00:33:55,895 --> 00:33:58,450
with everything Aiden said.
664
00:33:58,484 --> 00:34:00,521
Once I started
reading more and more,
665
00:34:00,555 --> 00:34:04,870
I started realizing that
this really is happening.
666
00:34:04,904 --> 00:34:06,492
And I realized that
he was actually
667
00:34:06,527 --> 00:34:09,081
talking about a past life.
668
00:34:09,116 --> 00:34:11,566
When I started reading
all these stories,
669
00:34:11,601 --> 00:34:14,431
I felt some comfort in knowing
that there's other people
670
00:34:14,466 --> 00:34:16,433
out there going
through the same thing.
671
00:34:16,468 --> 00:34:19,885
And now I finally found
some type of an outlet
672
00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:22,508
to be able to learn,
to understand my child.
673
00:34:26,236 --> 00:34:29,239
One day, I just randomly
decided to ask him
674
00:34:29,274 --> 00:34:32,484
what happened with Sarah because
he doesn't seem to mention her
675
00:34:32,518 --> 00:34:34,486
as much as he used to.
676
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,558
And he just looked at me,
and he looked kind of sad,
677
00:34:37,592 --> 00:34:41,182
and told me that he
wasn't sure what happened,
678
00:34:41,217 --> 00:34:45,428
but she doesn't come visit
him as much as she used to.
679
00:34:45,462 --> 00:34:50,122
I remember Sarah, but I
haven't talked to her a while.
680
00:34:50,157 --> 00:34:52,676
After that, he just
shrugged his shoulders.
681
00:34:52,711 --> 00:34:54,333
And he said, it's
OK, because I know
682
00:34:54,368 --> 00:34:56,232
that she's with me anyways.
683
00:34:56,266 --> 00:34:58,441
But as he got older and
I started learning more,
684
00:34:58,475 --> 00:35:02,376
I was worried that it might
cause something that he might
685
00:35:02,410 --> 00:35:03,480
not be able to work through.
686
00:35:06,518 --> 00:35:08,036
Aiden is six years old now.
687
00:35:08,071 --> 00:35:11,039
And he still has
problems sleeping.
688
00:35:11,074 --> 00:35:13,283
So I had to take him
into the doctors.
689
00:35:13,318 --> 00:35:16,044
And they had to
prescribe him melatonin.
690
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:18,978
It's the only way
to get him to sleep.
691
00:35:19,013 --> 00:35:22,637
Then one night, Joanna forget
to give him the medicine.
692
00:35:22,672 --> 00:35:27,297
And then I walk to his
room, and he was awake.
693
00:35:27,332 --> 00:35:30,335
And I said, yo, buddy, what are
you doing awake at this time?
694
00:35:30,369 --> 00:35:32,544
And he said, Mommy, I
was awake all night.
695
00:35:32,578 --> 00:35:34,304
I see the sun came
out and everything.
696
00:35:34,339 --> 00:35:35,857
He don't sleep all
through the night.
697
00:35:35,892 --> 00:35:37,169
He was awake.
698
00:35:37,204 --> 00:35:40,448
So while his past life
memories are fading,
699
00:35:40,483 --> 00:35:44,072
the problems caused by his
past life still remain.
700
00:35:44,107 --> 00:35:44,970
He needs to rest.
701
00:35:45,004 --> 00:35:46,385
He has to go to school.
702
00:35:46,420 --> 00:35:47,524
He need to learn.
703
00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:48,870
We need rest.
704
00:35:48,905 --> 00:35:52,219
My main concern for Aiden
is if these memories are still
705
00:35:52,253 --> 00:35:56,084
around, how will they
affect him in the future?
706
00:35:56,119 --> 00:35:57,983
But I'm not giving up.
707
00:35:58,017 --> 00:35:59,674
I need to find a
way to help my son.
708
00:36:09,753 --> 00:36:12,549
My son Aiden told us
that he had another family
709
00:36:12,584 --> 00:36:13,723
and was killed by his parents.
710
00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:18,728
I didn't know what to do.
711
00:36:18,762 --> 00:36:21,248
So I started researching online.
712
00:36:21,282 --> 00:36:22,870
And I realized that
he was actually
713
00:36:22,904 --> 00:36:25,804
talking about a past life.
714
00:36:25,838 --> 00:36:28,703
Aiden is six now and
still afraid of the dark.
715
00:36:28,738 --> 00:36:31,706
And he cannot sleep
without medication.
716
00:36:31,741 --> 00:36:35,814
It's very difficult as a
parent to listen to your child
717
00:36:35,848 --> 00:36:39,887
speaking about a past life
memory or past life traumas
718
00:36:39,921 --> 00:36:42,441
and not knowing what to
do, not having anyone
719
00:36:42,476 --> 00:36:45,720
to talk to about it and
not knowing where to turn.
720
00:36:51,899 --> 00:36:55,558
Recently, we sat Aiden down
to talk about his past life.
721
00:36:55,592 --> 00:36:59,078
But he got really emotional
and angry about it.
722
00:36:59,113 --> 00:37:01,840
It seems like he's
forgetting the memories,
723
00:37:01,874 --> 00:37:03,738
but he's still holding
on to the emotions.
724
00:37:06,534 --> 00:37:12,333
I talk to God a little bit and
have trouble sleeping at night.
725
00:37:12,368 --> 00:37:16,786
I saw Tan and her six-year-old
son Brennan on "Ghost Inside My
726
00:37:16,820 --> 00:37:19,271
Child."
727
00:37:19,306 --> 00:37:24,000
When my son Brennan told me
he fell off the roof and died,
728
00:37:24,034 --> 00:37:25,104
I didn't know what to think.
729
00:37:31,214 --> 00:37:33,354
I don't really know
where to go with that.
730
00:37:33,389 --> 00:37:35,632
They don't really teach you
that in parenting class--
731
00:37:35,667 --> 00:37:37,151
what to do when
your child tells you
732
00:37:37,185 --> 00:37:39,878
about a past-life experience.
733
00:37:39,912 --> 00:37:43,640
And I asked him, so when you
fell off the roof, did it hurt?
734
00:37:43,675 --> 00:37:46,988
And he was like, yeah, it hurt.
735
00:37:47,023 --> 00:37:49,301
I fell off the roof and died.
736
00:37:52,753 --> 00:37:55,721
I saw lots of similarities
between Brennan and Aiden.
737
00:37:55,756 --> 00:37:59,311
So I decided to
reach out to her.
738
00:37:59,346 --> 00:38:03,867
I think it's important for Aiden
to know that he is not alone
739
00:38:03,902 --> 00:38:06,732
and that there's other
kids out there like him.
740
00:38:06,767 --> 00:38:11,150
And I find comfort in knowing
that I'm not the only mom going
741
00:38:11,185 --> 00:38:14,706
through this and knowing that
there's someone else out there
742
00:38:14,740 --> 00:38:16,363
that I can speak to.
743
00:38:16,397 --> 00:38:17,191
I'm Tan.
744
00:38:17,225 --> 00:38:18,399
I'm Brennan's mom.
745
00:38:18,434 --> 00:38:20,643
And we were invited here
to Massachusetts by Joanna.
746
00:38:23,473 --> 00:38:25,337
Joanna thought it would
be a good idea for us
747
00:38:25,372 --> 00:38:27,408
to get together because
both of our sons
748
00:38:27,443 --> 00:38:30,894
have past-life experiences.
749
00:38:30,929 --> 00:38:32,655
Is that a pelican?
750
00:38:32,689 --> 00:38:33,725
I don't know.
751
00:38:33,759 --> 00:38:35,485
But it's so cute
to see them together.
752
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,555
I know.
753
00:38:36,590 --> 00:38:38,419
I did tell Brennan a
little bit about him
754
00:38:38,454 --> 00:38:43,217
and how we were meeting someone
who remembered a previous life
755
00:38:43,251 --> 00:38:44,011
like he did.
756
00:38:44,045 --> 00:38:45,495
Does he still remember?
757
00:38:45,530 --> 00:38:46,600
He remembers pieces.
758
00:38:46,634 --> 00:38:47,394
Yeah.
759
00:38:47,428 --> 00:38:48,740
He remembers pieces.
760
00:38:48,774 --> 00:38:52,537
As he's gotten older he's
not talking about it as much.
761
00:38:52,571 --> 00:38:54,297
Aiden will mention
here and there stuff.
762
00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:56,989
But then when I try to ask
him, he'll say he forgot,
763
00:38:57,024 --> 00:38:59,992
or, like, it brings up these
kind of emotions in him
764
00:39:00,027 --> 00:39:02,616
that he refuses
to talk about it.
765
00:39:02,650 --> 00:39:04,756
If he wants to have a
conversation about it,
766
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:08,656
just make it, you know, to where
that he doesn't feel pressure.
767
00:39:08,691 --> 00:39:10,002
I did that with Brennan.
768
00:39:10,037 --> 00:39:12,867
There are times that I think
he finds it kind of awkward.
769
00:39:12,902 --> 00:39:13,903
Yeah.
770
00:39:13,937 --> 00:39:14,938
And so I'll just
say, well, you know,
771
00:39:14,973 --> 00:39:16,354
just tell me what
you want me to know.
772
00:39:16,388 --> 00:39:18,252
You know, we can talk about it
when you want to talk about it.
773
00:39:18,286 --> 00:39:19,046
It's fine.
774
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,185
It's no big deal.
775
00:39:20,219 --> 00:39:22,394
I'm glad that he and
Brennan have met though.
776
00:39:22,429 --> 00:39:24,292
Me too.
777
00:39:24,327 --> 00:39:31,196
I was like falling down
the stairs, and then I died.
778
00:39:31,230 --> 00:39:33,060
You fell down the stairs?
779
00:39:33,094 --> 00:39:35,407
It's sort of the same
thing, falling off
780
00:39:35,442 --> 00:39:37,236
of 40-feet building.
781
00:39:37,271 --> 00:39:38,928
You don't remember much?
782
00:39:38,962 --> 00:39:39,860
Not that much.
783
00:39:39,894 --> 00:39:42,414
Neither do I.
784
00:39:42,449 --> 00:39:45,003
Aiden never told us he
was pushed down the stairs.
785
00:39:45,037 --> 00:39:48,800
It's kind of sad to hear some
things that we haven't heard
786
00:39:48,834 --> 00:39:51,906
before about his past life.
787
00:39:51,941 --> 00:39:55,841
But it's great that he felt so
comfortable right away that he
788
00:39:55,876 --> 00:39:59,707
was able to open up and share
these things with someone else.
789
00:39:59,742 --> 00:40:03,642
Because I never wanted to
go into detail with Aiden
790
00:40:03,677 --> 00:40:05,989
about what happened
because I was afraid
791
00:40:06,024 --> 00:40:08,820
what traumatic events
happened in his life
792
00:40:08,854 --> 00:40:10,477
and what that might bring up.
793
00:40:10,511 --> 00:40:14,446
But having him open up
to another child his age,
794
00:40:14,481 --> 00:40:18,623
and he was more comfortable, I
think that was the most perfect
795
00:40:18,657 --> 00:40:20,970
way for him to be able to
open up and speak more.
796
00:40:25,492 --> 00:40:27,701
I'm glad that you
guys got to meet.
797
00:40:27,735 --> 00:40:30,428
And I'm pretty sure
that you'll be friends
798
00:40:30,462 --> 00:40:32,499
for a really long time.
799
00:40:32,533 --> 00:40:35,053
Can you say thank you to
Brennan for coming and meeting
800
00:40:35,087 --> 00:40:35,950
you?
- Thank you.
801
00:40:35,985 --> 00:40:36,744
You're welcome.
802
00:40:36,779 --> 00:40:37,780
Oh.
803
00:40:37,814 --> 00:40:39,471
Are you happy that
you came to see him?
804
00:40:39,506 --> 00:40:40,299
Yes.
805
00:40:40,334 --> 00:40:41,818
And I want to stay here longer.
806
00:40:41,853 --> 00:40:43,095
You want to stay here longer?
807
00:40:43,130 --> 00:40:43,958
Yes.
808
00:40:43,993 --> 00:40:44,752
I know.
809
00:40:44,787 --> 00:40:46,064
I do too.
810
00:40:46,098 --> 00:40:47,790
But the good thing is you both--
811
00:40:47,824 --> 00:40:50,033
you can talk on the phone.
812
00:40:50,068 --> 00:40:51,828
And you can-- don't get upset.
813
00:40:51,863 --> 00:40:53,243
You can talk on the phone.
814
00:40:53,278 --> 00:40:55,004
You can email each other.
815
00:40:55,038 --> 00:40:56,523
Well, thank you for inviting us.
816
00:40:56,557 --> 00:40:57,351
Thank you.
817
00:40:57,385 --> 00:40:59,077
Thank you for coming.
818
00:40:59,111 --> 00:41:00,492
Thank you.
819
00:41:00,527 --> 00:41:02,736
Oh, give Brennan a hug.
820
00:41:02,770 --> 00:41:03,978
Oh.
821
00:41:04,013 --> 00:41:05,497
He's trying to pick him up.
822
00:41:14,368 --> 00:41:16,163
For me, it's
important that Aiden
823
00:41:16,197 --> 00:41:19,200
feel safe and a lot of love.
824
00:41:19,235 --> 00:41:21,582
If he don't have it
in the past life--
825
00:41:21,617 --> 00:41:23,584
you're going to make me cry--
826
00:41:23,619 --> 00:41:27,001
I want he feel it
now, here in this one.
827
00:41:27,036 --> 00:41:29,038
His future that I see
that he's going to be
828
00:41:29,072 --> 00:41:32,455
a happy boy and happy man.
829
00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:35,113
I just want Aiden to
know that he's loved
830
00:41:35,147 --> 00:41:37,943
and that we believe
him no matter what.
831
00:41:37,978 --> 00:41:41,360
And that we're never
going to hurt him.
832
00:41:41,395 --> 00:41:46,538
And he's going to be happy and
live a good life in this life.
833
00:41:46,573 --> 00:41:48,057
I love my family.
834
00:41:48,091 --> 00:41:52,268
I thanked God for
letting me choose them.
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