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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,461 --> 00:00:15,153 And she'd say, "No, no, Mama-- 2 00:00:15,187 --> 00:00:18,087 the sister from when I lived before." 3 00:00:18,121 --> 00:00:21,745 He had these dreams, and so detailed and precise. 4 00:00:25,301 --> 00:00:26,957 It came as a total surprise to me 5 00:00:26,992 --> 00:00:30,099 when I found out he was writing this alphabet 6 00:00:30,133 --> 00:00:31,307 in another language. 7 00:00:31,341 --> 00:00:34,103 "She killed me by pushing me in the fire, 8 00:00:34,137 --> 00:00:37,796 but it was an accident and she feels really sorry." 9 00:00:37,830 --> 00:00:40,661 Evan would tell me that he was a Russian soldier fighting 10 00:00:40,695 --> 00:00:42,904 the Germans. 11 00:00:42,939 --> 00:00:46,115 She cried and had probably what could 12 00:00:46,149 --> 00:00:47,806 be considered a panic attack. 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,120 He had to kill a lot of people. 14 00:00:51,154 --> 00:00:54,157 I told my mom that I could not do it anymore. 15 00:00:54,192 --> 00:00:57,160 I knew there was more to this than just coincidence. 16 00:00:57,195 --> 00:00:59,162 My goodness, we have a problem. 17 00:01:11,623 --> 00:01:13,003 I'm Angela. 18 00:01:13,038 --> 00:01:18,319 My daughter is Kimberly, and we live in San Diego, California. 19 00:01:18,354 --> 00:01:20,666 San Diego is the best city to live in. 20 00:01:20,701 --> 00:01:24,049 There's everything here-- from the ocean, the mountains. 21 00:01:24,084 --> 00:01:27,915 You could surf in the morning, ski in the afternoon, 22 00:01:27,949 --> 00:01:29,123 camp at night. 23 00:01:29,158 --> 00:01:30,366 It's beautiful. 24 00:01:33,231 --> 00:01:34,715 When I was pregnant with Kimberly, 25 00:01:34,749 --> 00:01:37,580 I lived in an apartment with her dad. 26 00:01:37,614 --> 00:01:40,686 I was 18, but I'd been out of the house and away 27 00:01:40,721 --> 00:01:42,654 from my parents for about a year. 28 00:01:42,688 --> 00:01:44,380 Of course, I thought I was very grown up. 29 00:01:44,414 --> 00:01:46,623 But to see a positive pregnancy test, 30 00:01:46,658 --> 00:01:48,625 figured out I probably wasn't nearly as grown up 31 00:01:48,660 --> 00:01:50,006 as I thought I was. 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,182 And soon after, I moved back home. 33 00:01:53,216 --> 00:01:57,496 I certainly did not feel prepared to raise a baby. 34 00:01:57,531 --> 00:01:59,912 My mother was very supportive. 35 00:01:59,947 --> 00:02:01,155 She wasn't excited. 36 00:02:01,190 --> 00:02:06,160 But that being said, I knew I would be OK. 37 00:02:06,195 --> 00:02:10,992 When she was born, she was perfect, the prettiest baby. 38 00:02:11,027 --> 00:02:13,133 I guess any mom could say that, but I really 39 00:02:13,167 --> 00:02:16,170 did have the prettiest baby you've ever seen-- 40 00:02:16,205 --> 00:02:17,930 the perfect nose, the perfect lips 41 00:02:17,965 --> 00:02:22,418 with the lightest cover of the reddest hair you've ever 42 00:02:22,452 --> 00:02:23,936 seen before. 43 00:02:23,971 --> 00:02:28,769 She made her arrival and everybody knew she was here. 44 00:02:28,803 --> 00:02:31,668 First four days of her life was just crying-- 45 00:02:31,703 --> 00:02:33,429 literally crying. 46 00:02:33,463 --> 00:02:35,983 It was all night long. 47 00:02:36,017 --> 00:02:38,227 I think I remember thinking, you slept three hours 48 00:02:38,261 --> 00:02:40,090 and you're only three days old. 49 00:02:40,125 --> 00:02:42,127 How are you going to grow if you're only going 50 00:02:42,162 --> 00:02:44,336 to sleep three hours a day? 51 00:02:44,371 --> 00:02:46,890 Everybody else had these babies that slept hours. 52 00:02:46,925 --> 00:02:49,721 If they didn't sleep at night, they slept during the day. 53 00:02:49,755 --> 00:02:50,860 Mine just didn't sleep. 54 00:02:52,310 --> 00:02:55,071 Kimmy slept so little that the pediatrician was even 55 00:02:55,105 --> 00:02:57,073 taken aback by that and suggested 56 00:02:57,107 --> 00:03:00,214 that I give her Benadryl to help her sleep at night. 57 00:03:00,249 --> 00:03:02,354 I honestly thought I was just a bad mom. 58 00:03:02,389 --> 00:03:04,494 Maybe I wasn't addressing her needs right. 59 00:03:04,529 --> 00:03:06,979 Maybe I wasn't feeding with the right formula. 60 00:03:07,014 --> 00:03:11,639 I really didn't know why she was so fussy. 61 00:03:11,674 --> 00:03:16,161 As a parent, you can only go sleep-deprived for so long. 62 00:03:16,196 --> 00:03:20,234 It got so bad at one point, when she was four months old, 63 00:03:20,269 --> 00:03:23,651 I took her to my mom and told my mom 64 00:03:23,686 --> 00:03:26,378 that I could not do it anymore. 65 00:03:26,413 --> 00:03:30,313 There was just no way I could possibly function and raise 66 00:03:30,348 --> 00:03:35,318 her, given how it was going at that point. 67 00:03:35,353 --> 00:03:37,838 And my mom took her for the night 68 00:03:37,872 --> 00:03:40,841 and let me sleep, thankfully. 69 00:03:40,875 --> 00:03:41,635 You're tired. 70 00:03:41,669 --> 00:03:42,429 You're frustrated. 71 00:03:42,463 --> 00:03:43,499 You can't think clearly. 72 00:03:43,533 --> 00:03:45,363 You're exhausted. 73 00:03:45,397 --> 00:03:47,399 And the kid was exhausted. 74 00:03:47,434 --> 00:03:50,920 So I was glad when she learned to at least-- 75 00:03:50,954 --> 00:03:52,266 well, I don't know if she learned 76 00:03:52,301 --> 00:03:54,130 to sleep through the night or I just gave up 77 00:03:54,164 --> 00:03:55,304 and put her in my bed. 78 00:03:55,338 --> 00:03:57,478 But soon as I just gave up putting her 79 00:03:57,513 --> 00:04:00,688 in a crib or her own bed, life got much better. 80 00:04:04,899 --> 00:04:07,488 When Kimberly was a toddler, she was very empathetic. 81 00:04:07,523 --> 00:04:10,422 She was able to pick up on the emotions of those around her. 82 00:04:10,457 --> 00:04:13,218 So if she walked into a room that was a very happy room, 83 00:04:13,253 --> 00:04:14,840 I had a very happy child. 84 00:04:14,875 --> 00:04:19,189 If she walked into a room and it was very stressed, 85 00:04:19,224 --> 00:04:22,296 I would have a child that was stressed or upset. 86 00:04:22,331 --> 00:04:28,889 It was very clear that she was very aware of her surroundings. 87 00:04:28,923 --> 00:04:31,478 There had been a fair at school that she really 88 00:04:31,512 --> 00:04:32,927 wanted to go to. 89 00:04:32,962 --> 00:04:37,449 We went, and it was very busy, very chaotic. 90 00:04:37,484 --> 00:04:41,729 And in the middle of all of the chaos, 91 00:04:41,764 --> 00:04:46,182 she essentially shut down. 92 00:04:46,216 --> 00:04:47,873 As a parent, I had bent over backwards 93 00:04:47,908 --> 00:04:49,703 to make sure we all could go. 94 00:04:49,737 --> 00:04:54,846 And then we get there and she cried and had probably what 95 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,883 could be considered a panic attack. 96 00:04:57,918 --> 00:05:01,059 Wanted to go, had to leave, after she was the one that 97 00:05:01,093 --> 00:05:03,095 wanted us to go. 98 00:05:03,130 --> 00:05:05,443 I was definitely worried about her anxiety level. 99 00:05:05,477 --> 00:05:07,755 My inner voice is telling me that this was too much. 100 00:05:07,790 --> 00:05:11,103 Kimberly was not going to be able to cope with this. 101 00:05:11,138 --> 00:05:14,348 Ultimately, we didn't stay, but she's always kind of 102 00:05:14,383 --> 00:05:17,282 been like that-- not real big on when there's just 103 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:20,285 too much going on. 104 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,769 Her anxiety never got to the point 105 00:05:21,804 --> 00:05:23,323 where she had to stop doing things, 106 00:05:23,357 --> 00:05:25,980 but she did get to the point where we did take her 107 00:05:26,015 --> 00:05:29,984 to a therapist to teach her relaxation techniques. 108 00:05:30,019 --> 00:05:32,401 I wasn't sure, but I started to think 109 00:05:32,435 --> 00:05:36,301 that maybe her sensitive nature was why she couldn't sleep. 110 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:39,649 When I finally realized what was causing her sleep issues, 111 00:05:39,684 --> 00:05:41,168 I felt completely helpless. 112 00:05:56,114 --> 00:05:57,253 My name is Dana. 113 00:05:57,287 --> 00:05:59,220 I live in Springfield, Missouri. 114 00:05:59,255 --> 00:06:03,259 I have one son, and his name is Evan. 115 00:06:03,293 --> 00:06:05,917 Springfield is like a big small town. 116 00:06:05,951 --> 00:06:07,228 It's considered a city. 117 00:06:07,263 --> 00:06:08,713 It's the third largest in Missouri. 118 00:06:08,747 --> 00:06:10,439 But drive the streets, you wouldn't really 119 00:06:10,473 --> 00:06:14,132 know it cause it feels homey. 120 00:06:14,166 --> 00:06:17,342 When I was pregnant, I had the perfect pregnancy. 121 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:18,688 I was happy. 122 00:06:18,723 --> 00:06:19,517 I was glowing. 123 00:06:19,551 --> 00:06:21,104 Of course, most mothers do. 124 00:06:21,139 --> 00:06:24,798 I had no morning sickness, no problems whatsoever. 125 00:06:24,832 --> 00:06:29,285 I felt like this was the right thing for me. 126 00:06:29,319 --> 00:06:31,563 When he was born, it was the most amazing thing. 127 00:06:31,598 --> 00:06:36,844 He had this beaming smile and this little round face and just 128 00:06:36,879 --> 00:06:40,814 these eyes, they were so serene and knowing. 129 00:06:40,848 --> 00:06:43,989 He was quite an amazing little baby. 130 00:06:44,024 --> 00:06:46,060 Evan was a normal infant-- 131 00:06:46,095 --> 00:06:48,822 cried and smiled and played and laughed. 132 00:06:48,856 --> 00:06:52,791 As he got older, he got a little more fussy. 133 00:06:52,826 --> 00:06:55,967 He had bouts of crying that I couldn't understand. 134 00:06:56,001 --> 00:07:00,143 People tried telling me he had colic or some reason 135 00:07:00,178 --> 00:07:02,732 that he was unhappy and just cried. 136 00:07:02,767 --> 00:07:07,081 There was a time when Evan was inconsolable, 137 00:07:07,116 --> 00:07:12,190 and I imagine it started about the age of three or four 138 00:07:12,224 --> 00:07:15,952 and continued until about six or seven. 139 00:07:15,987 --> 00:07:20,440 He would just all of a sudden just go into fits. 140 00:07:20,474 --> 00:07:23,028 He'd cry, and he'd drop to the floor, 141 00:07:23,063 --> 00:07:28,586 and he'd bang his hands on the floor, and he'd scream. 142 00:07:28,620 --> 00:07:31,381 I just felt like there was something wrong. 143 00:07:31,416 --> 00:07:34,799 My name is Sandy, and I'm Evan's grandmother. 144 00:07:34,833 --> 00:07:37,422 He would be just real happy playing along, 145 00:07:37,457 --> 00:07:41,633 and all of a sudden he would scream and holler. 146 00:07:41,668 --> 00:07:43,532 And you just couldn't quiet him down. 147 00:07:43,566 --> 00:07:47,639 He would do that for, like, two minutes and then it was over. 148 00:07:47,674 --> 00:07:49,883 And it was always really strange, 149 00:07:49,917 --> 00:07:53,403 because it was out of nowhere. 150 00:07:53,438 --> 00:07:54,681 I couldn't touch him. 151 00:07:54,715 --> 00:07:56,545 I tried to cuddle him and comfort him. 152 00:07:56,579 --> 00:07:58,512 There was nothing I could do. 153 00:07:58,547 --> 00:08:02,412 He'd continue on until he just either got worn out 154 00:08:02,447 --> 00:08:03,621 or got tired of crying. 155 00:08:03,655 --> 00:08:06,520 But it did worry me. 156 00:08:06,555 --> 00:08:08,729 When Evan started going to elementary school, 157 00:08:08,764 --> 00:08:11,594 he got comments from his teachers 158 00:08:11,629 --> 00:08:16,634 that he didn't engage with others during play period. 159 00:08:16,668 --> 00:08:18,014 He'd stay to himself. 160 00:08:18,049 --> 00:08:19,499 He'd distanced himself. 161 00:08:19,533 --> 00:08:21,880 And if anybody would invite him to come play, 162 00:08:21,915 --> 00:08:24,814 he'd decline and stay quietly somewhere off to the side. 163 00:08:24,849 --> 00:08:27,645 And it was really hard for them to get him involved in group 164 00:08:27,679 --> 00:08:28,956 activities. 165 00:08:28,991 --> 00:08:30,544 He was a loner. 166 00:08:30,579 --> 00:08:33,823 I wasn't too concerned about Evan being a loner, 167 00:08:33,858 --> 00:08:38,034 because I had been alone, and I thought maybe it was just 168 00:08:38,069 --> 00:08:41,313 his personality and shouldn't be a problem. 169 00:08:41,348 --> 00:08:47,009 But when he refused to get engaged in activities at all, 170 00:08:47,043 --> 00:08:48,251 that started worrying me. 171 00:08:51,254 --> 00:08:54,016 As Evan got older, he started having nightmares. 172 00:08:54,050 --> 00:08:56,915 He was really too young to tell me what they were all about, 173 00:08:56,950 --> 00:08:59,849 and I don't think he even understood it, but mostly 174 00:08:59,884 --> 00:09:05,199 with screams and sobbing, frightening himself awake. 175 00:09:05,234 --> 00:09:08,375 I talked to him, kept the communication very open, 176 00:09:08,409 --> 00:09:11,447 gave him plenty of chance to talk to me about any fears 177 00:09:11,481 --> 00:09:14,795 or problems or issues that he was dealing with, 178 00:09:14,830 --> 00:09:17,349 and he seemed to be OK on that. 179 00:09:17,384 --> 00:09:20,145 I thought they were just regular childhood nightmares. 180 00:09:20,180 --> 00:09:23,286 But as he aged, they became more and more intense and more 181 00:09:23,321 --> 00:09:24,805 and more frequent. 182 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,945 I did wonder what was causing them. 183 00:09:26,980 --> 00:09:29,569 Why did he have so many really bad dreams? 184 00:09:35,126 --> 00:09:37,646 When Evan was in elementary school, 185 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:39,371 he used to get comments from his teachers 186 00:09:39,406 --> 00:09:42,305 all the time about how advanced his vocabulary was. 187 00:09:42,340 --> 00:09:46,482 He used a lot of big words, sophisticated words. 188 00:09:46,516 --> 00:09:49,381 There was one teacher who commented that his vocabulary 189 00:09:49,416 --> 00:09:52,730 was about four years ahead of what other children's were. 190 00:09:52,764 --> 00:09:55,042 I'd always gotten good remarks from Evan's teachers 191 00:09:55,077 --> 00:09:56,941 about his progress in school. 192 00:09:56,975 --> 00:09:58,598 They came as a total surprise to me 193 00:09:58,632 --> 00:10:02,015 when I found out he was writing this alphabet 194 00:10:02,049 --> 00:10:02,809 in another language. 195 00:10:11,024 --> 00:10:13,923 My daughter Kimberly cried constantly as a baby 196 00:10:13,958 --> 00:10:16,408 and virtually never slept. 197 00:10:16,443 --> 00:10:19,308 She was very sensitive to other people's feelings 198 00:10:19,342 --> 00:10:21,206 and would just sleep with me each night. 199 00:10:30,215 --> 00:10:31,492 I was not happy. 200 00:10:31,527 --> 00:10:34,703 My concern initially was how is this going to go? 201 00:10:34,737 --> 00:10:37,671 What is this going to do with her? 202 00:10:37,706 --> 00:10:39,949 The great thing about when she started to talk 203 00:10:39,984 --> 00:10:43,090 is that she would play by herself. 204 00:10:43,125 --> 00:10:45,437 About 2 and 1/2 years old, she was playing. 205 00:10:45,472 --> 00:10:48,095 And I could tell she was playing with someone, 206 00:10:48,130 --> 00:10:51,202 or at least that's what it seemed like. 207 00:10:51,236 --> 00:10:55,620 I was like, "Kimberly, where are you talking to?" 208 00:10:55,655 --> 00:10:58,968 And she'd say, "I'm talking to my sister, Mama." 209 00:10:59,003 --> 00:11:01,764 Kim really didn't have a sister when she was 2 and 1/2, 210 00:11:01,799 --> 00:11:03,593 3 years old. 211 00:11:03,628 --> 00:11:06,735 I wanted to know how much did she know about her sister. 212 00:11:06,769 --> 00:11:08,150 So I started asking questions. 213 00:11:08,184 --> 00:11:09,634 "How come you play with your sister 214 00:11:09,669 --> 00:11:11,947 so much when you don't have a sister?" 215 00:11:11,981 --> 00:11:13,638 And she'd say, "No, no, Mama. 216 00:11:13,673 --> 00:11:17,262 The sister from when I lived before." 217 00:11:17,297 --> 00:11:22,198 I was a little confused, but I didn't 218 00:11:22,233 --> 00:11:25,167 want to make it weird for her. 219 00:11:25,201 --> 00:11:27,652 So I said, OK. 220 00:11:27,687 --> 00:11:29,309 I'd shared it with the pediatrician 221 00:11:29,343 --> 00:11:32,726 that she was playing with her sister that she didn't have. 222 00:11:32,761 --> 00:11:35,591 But he just said she had a great imagination. 223 00:11:35,625 --> 00:11:38,974 It's a sign of intelligence, maybe she'll be a writer, 224 00:11:39,008 --> 00:11:40,838 and just let it go at that. 225 00:11:44,082 --> 00:11:46,429 Maybe a few weeks later, maybe a couple months later, 226 00:11:46,464 --> 00:11:49,950 I asked Kimberly, "Does your sister have a name?" 227 00:11:49,985 --> 00:11:52,988 Because now I want to know, is this just a total fantasy? 228 00:11:53,022 --> 00:11:54,714 How far is this fantasy going? 229 00:11:54,748 --> 00:11:56,301 How creative is she? 230 00:11:56,336 --> 00:11:59,201 What's going to come of this? 231 00:11:59,235 --> 00:12:00,927 And Kimberly said, "Well, yes, mom. 232 00:12:00,961 --> 00:12:02,652 Her name is Sarah. 233 00:12:02,687 --> 00:12:06,691 She likes to come play with me because she feels sorry." 234 00:12:06,726 --> 00:12:10,419 And I asked Kimberly, "So Kimberly, what does Sarah 235 00:12:10,453 --> 00:12:11,765 feel sorry about?" 236 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,839 And she said, "Mom, when we lived before, 237 00:12:16,874 --> 00:12:18,634 she killed me by pushing me in the fire-- 238 00:12:20,015 --> 00:12:23,984 but it was an accident and she feels really sorry. 239 00:12:24,019 --> 00:12:27,781 In my head, I was thinking, "Oh, my goodness. 240 00:12:27,816 --> 00:12:29,852 We have a problem. 241 00:12:29,887 --> 00:12:32,993 This is not normal." 242 00:12:33,028 --> 00:12:34,892 As soon as she has assigned a name-- 243 00:12:34,926 --> 00:12:38,378 Sarah-- and a scenario-- she killed me by pushing me 244 00:12:38,412 --> 00:12:40,311 in the fire but it was an accident-- 245 00:12:40,345 --> 00:12:45,419 I knew that this was not just a sign of intelligence. 246 00:12:45,454 --> 00:12:47,559 It was something else. 247 00:12:47,594 --> 00:12:51,356 What that something else was, I wasn't entirely sure of. 248 00:13:01,953 --> 00:13:03,886 I had a great pregnancy with Evan, 249 00:13:03,921 --> 00:13:05,612 and he had a fantastic childhood. 250 00:13:05,646 --> 00:13:06,820 He was a very happy boy. 251 00:13:06,855 --> 00:13:09,133 As he got older, he started having the nightmares 252 00:13:09,167 --> 00:13:10,928 and separating himself from other people, 253 00:13:10,962 --> 00:13:12,170 and I became very concerned. 254 00:13:12,205 --> 00:13:12,895 It worried me. 255 00:13:21,248 --> 00:13:23,181 When Evan was in elementary school, 256 00:13:23,216 --> 00:13:24,976 he was being taught the alphabet, 257 00:13:25,011 --> 00:13:27,185 and the teachers were concerned that he 258 00:13:27,220 --> 00:13:30,499 wasn't able to learn the alphabet the way he needed to. 259 00:13:30,533 --> 00:13:33,088 He kept bringing home papers with letters being 260 00:13:33,122 --> 00:13:36,677 reversed or different, letters being inserted that didn't look 261 00:13:36,712 --> 00:13:38,852 anything like the English language. 262 00:13:38,887 --> 00:13:39,957 I'd teach him. 263 00:13:39,991 --> 00:13:41,406 I'd sit down with him and say, "Now, this 264 00:13:41,441 --> 00:13:43,132 is how you draw your R." 265 00:13:43,167 --> 00:13:44,099 And he wouldn't do it. 266 00:13:44,133 --> 00:13:46,170 He insisted it was different. 267 00:13:46,204 --> 00:13:48,655 He'd say, "No, this is how you write it." 268 00:13:48,689 --> 00:13:52,038 And a teacher came around and noticed his paper. 269 00:13:52,072 --> 00:13:55,386 And she said, "Evan, do you speak any foreign languages?" 270 00:13:58,285 --> 00:14:01,668 And it turned out that it was the Russian alphabet 271 00:14:01,702 --> 00:14:03,187 that he was writing. 272 00:14:03,221 --> 00:14:06,293 He'd never been around anybody Russian. 273 00:14:06,328 --> 00:14:07,639 None of my family speak Russian. 274 00:14:07,674 --> 00:14:09,158 I don't know where he got that from. 275 00:14:13,783 --> 00:14:16,165 When Evan was very little, he had toy soldiers 276 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,340 and he loved playing with those. 277 00:14:18,374 --> 00:14:20,445 And they were the plastic ones, about an inch 278 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,033 and a half to two inches tall. 279 00:14:22,068 --> 00:14:25,071 When he learned about war, it wasn't so much the violence 280 00:14:25,105 --> 00:14:26,348 that got him interested. 281 00:14:26,382 --> 00:14:27,659 It wasn't that at all. 282 00:14:27,694 --> 00:14:31,008 It was what really happened, what was it all about, who 283 00:14:31,042 --> 00:14:32,872 was involved, the strategy. 284 00:14:32,906 --> 00:14:33,665 He loved strategy. 285 00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:41,984 When he was 5, 6, he would do this thing with his hands. 286 00:14:42,019 --> 00:14:44,642 And sometimes he'd be like this. 287 00:14:44,676 --> 00:14:46,540 And he'd seem to be in his own world. 288 00:14:46,575 --> 00:14:48,991 He could be sitting or walking down the street, 289 00:14:49,026 --> 00:14:50,372 and he'd start doing us thing. 290 00:14:50,406 --> 00:14:52,788 And it really concerned me. 291 00:14:52,822 --> 00:14:55,791 As the years passed, and I tried to bring it to his attention 292 00:14:55,825 --> 00:14:57,689 so he would stop-- because I explained to him, 293 00:14:57,724 --> 00:14:58,794 it looks a little strange. 294 00:14:58,828 --> 00:15:00,313 People don't go around doing that. 295 00:15:00,347 --> 00:15:02,418 My mom asked me, "Why is he always doing that?" 296 00:15:02,453 --> 00:15:05,145 I said, "I don't know, Mom, but I'm trying to break the habit." 297 00:15:05,180 --> 00:15:08,942 So finally, after enough bringing Evan's attention 298 00:15:08,977 --> 00:15:11,358 to the times that he was doing it, 299 00:15:11,393 --> 00:15:14,499 and when he got old enough to verbalize and understand what 300 00:15:14,534 --> 00:15:17,882 it was he was seeing and being aware that he was doing it, 301 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:19,953 he said, "It's explosions. 302 00:15:19,988 --> 00:15:22,542 It's bombs going off." 303 00:15:22,576 --> 00:15:25,407 Yeah, I was concerned. 304 00:15:25,441 --> 00:15:29,238 I think about 12 years old, that it might have stopped. 305 00:15:29,273 --> 00:15:32,966 Because Dana was able to talk with Evan, 306 00:15:33,001 --> 00:15:34,830 making him aware of it. 307 00:15:34,864 --> 00:15:37,591 But he didn't realize he was doing this 308 00:15:37,626 --> 00:15:41,388 or why he was doing this. 309 00:15:41,423 --> 00:15:45,289 When Evan got older, he was able to verbalize what 310 00:15:45,323 --> 00:15:47,084 he was seeing in his dreams. 311 00:15:47,118 --> 00:15:49,672 And he could tell me things like he saw blood or people dying, 312 00:15:49,707 --> 00:15:53,711 that he didn't understand why or how or what was going on. 313 00:15:53,745 --> 00:15:56,956 So when he was able to verbalize what was happening, 314 00:15:56,990 --> 00:16:01,098 he said it was war and I was a killer. 315 00:16:01,132 --> 00:16:03,410 Why would my son be having recurring dreams 316 00:16:03,445 --> 00:16:05,895 about being a killer? 317 00:16:05,930 --> 00:16:11,694 Most of Evan's dreams were in places that were cold, snowy. 318 00:16:11,729 --> 00:16:13,455 Snow almost in all of them. 319 00:16:13,489 --> 00:16:16,320 He was a soldier in the Soviet army. 320 00:16:16,354 --> 00:16:20,462 He had vivid, detailed recollections of where he was 321 00:16:20,496 --> 00:16:25,639 and what he had to do, his fellow soldiers, places, names. 322 00:16:25,674 --> 00:16:28,504 He'd remember the signs that he'd see on buildings. 323 00:16:28,539 --> 00:16:31,059 And the next day, he'd get on the computer 324 00:16:31,093 --> 00:16:33,647 and look them up and find that these indeed 325 00:16:33,682 --> 00:16:36,650 were actual places. 326 00:16:36,685 --> 00:16:39,343 He would tell me the Russian words in his dreams. 327 00:16:39,377 --> 00:16:43,174 And we'd get on the computer, go to a translator, 328 00:16:43,209 --> 00:16:46,315 put in, in English, the word and ask it to Russian. 329 00:16:46,350 --> 00:16:48,662 And there was one time he remembered so much of this one 330 00:16:48,697 --> 00:16:52,252 particular dream, we were just both blown away 331 00:16:52,287 --> 00:16:54,565 by what came up. 332 00:16:54,599 --> 00:16:55,773 "Get your guns." 333 00:16:55,807 --> 00:16:56,567 "Run." 334 00:16:56,601 --> 00:16:57,602 "Hurry." 335 00:16:57,637 --> 00:16:58,948 "Go faster." 336 00:16:58,983 --> 00:17:00,053 "You go left." 337 00:17:00,088 --> 00:17:02,814 "You go right"-- simple commands. 338 00:17:02,849 --> 00:17:06,715 It was quite unbelievable, but it was all things 339 00:17:06,749 --> 00:17:09,062 to do with war. 340 00:17:09,097 --> 00:17:12,617 I remember when she told me this about Evan, 341 00:17:12,652 --> 00:17:15,310 the little hairs stood up on the back of my neck 342 00:17:15,344 --> 00:17:18,623 and I thought, well, this is really something. 343 00:17:18,658 --> 00:17:21,868 When I started putting the pieces together was when he 344 00:17:21,902 --> 00:17:23,835 started verbalizing the dreams and telling 345 00:17:23,870 --> 00:17:25,561 in such intense detail. 346 00:17:25,596 --> 00:17:27,391 And then we started looking on the internet, 347 00:17:27,425 --> 00:17:30,601 and these places would come up that were actual places 348 00:17:30,635 --> 00:17:34,156 and events that had actually happened. 349 00:17:34,191 --> 00:17:38,298 So I started thinking, gosh, he had the hand motions 350 00:17:38,333 --> 00:17:40,404 and the bombs exploding, he'd say. 351 00:17:40,438 --> 00:17:45,064 And he'd have letters written differently in the alphabet. 352 00:17:45,098 --> 00:17:49,654 And he had these dreams and so detailed and precise. 353 00:17:49,689 --> 00:17:52,692 I knew there was more to this than just coincidence. 354 00:17:52,726 --> 00:17:55,729 Could my son be remembering a past life? 355 00:18:04,221 --> 00:18:06,188 My son wrote the Russian alphabet 356 00:18:06,223 --> 00:18:08,639 without knowing anything about the Russian language. 357 00:18:16,888 --> 00:18:19,477 I didn't know what was going on, but there were too many things 358 00:18:19,512 --> 00:18:20,271 happening. 359 00:18:20,306 --> 00:18:21,928 It just didn't make sense. 360 00:18:21,962 --> 00:18:23,826 As Evan got older, the nightmares 361 00:18:23,861 --> 00:18:26,381 became more frequent and more vivid. 362 00:18:28,072 --> 00:18:31,144 Evan would tell me about a lot of his dreams, 363 00:18:31,179 --> 00:18:35,424 and there were plenty that he didn't tell me about. 364 00:18:35,459 --> 00:18:38,255 Evan would tell me that he was a Russian soldier fighting 365 00:18:38,289 --> 00:18:39,980 the Germans. 366 00:18:40,015 --> 00:18:46,228 He said his job was to take people out with a rifle. 367 00:18:46,263 --> 00:18:49,852 And he thought he was a sniper, because he worked with a rifle 368 00:18:49,887 --> 00:18:52,959 and very often on his own, and he had to kill a lot of people. 369 00:18:55,582 --> 00:18:57,688 That's when I started thinking, OK, there's something more 370 00:18:57,722 --> 00:18:58,516 to this. 371 00:18:58,551 --> 00:19:01,830 There's something going on here. 372 00:19:01,864 --> 00:19:04,315 When Evan would tell me about these dreams, 373 00:19:04,350 --> 00:19:07,180 he was very obviously distraught. 374 00:19:07,215 --> 00:19:10,977 He said he didn't want to kill, that he had to. 375 00:19:11,011 --> 00:19:13,462 He had trouble dealing with it, he said. 376 00:19:13,497 --> 00:19:18,053 He could feel the pain of both himself and the other people-- 377 00:19:18,087 --> 00:19:23,162 the anguish, the horror, the dread, the fear, everything. 378 00:19:25,957 --> 00:19:30,065 And more things came to light about his dreams. 379 00:19:30,099 --> 00:19:34,483 He said he saw himself on his deathbed, 380 00:19:34,518 --> 00:19:36,899 and his friend came to be with him. 381 00:19:36,934 --> 00:19:39,454 His wife was there, and he had two children. 382 00:19:39,488 --> 00:19:42,733 And his little girl held his hand as he died. 383 00:19:42,767 --> 00:19:46,944 Evidently, he had some kind of affliction 384 00:19:46,978 --> 00:19:50,119 to his lungs that ultimately caused his death. 385 00:19:52,777 --> 00:19:55,677 Pretty intense knowing which emotions and thoughts were 386 00:19:55,711 --> 00:19:59,819 going through his mind as he was laying there on his deathbed-- 387 00:19:59,853 --> 00:20:01,269 pretty emotional. 388 00:20:01,303 --> 00:20:04,893 Death is hard anyway, but to hear my son 389 00:20:04,927 --> 00:20:07,136 saying how he felt about his family 390 00:20:07,171 --> 00:20:11,210 and having to say goodbye made me cry. 391 00:20:11,244 --> 00:20:13,798 Who sees things like that? 392 00:20:13,833 --> 00:20:17,457 Perhaps he thought he was imagining it or he was crazy. 393 00:20:23,187 --> 00:20:25,293 I took him to a counselor, because he 394 00:20:25,327 --> 00:20:26,777 was having these nightmares. 395 00:20:28,054 --> 00:20:30,401 And he went for quite a while. 396 00:20:30,436 --> 00:20:33,611 And they didn't tell me a lot, but they did tell me that he 397 00:20:33,646 --> 00:20:36,821 was suffering from PTSD. 398 00:20:36,856 --> 00:20:40,169 He never had any severe trauma in his life. 399 00:20:40,204 --> 00:20:43,276 Could my son's past life trauma be affecting him in this life? 400 00:20:56,979 --> 00:20:59,258 Kimberly couldn't sleep at night alone, 401 00:20:59,292 --> 00:21:01,674 had an imaginary friend, who was her sister, named Sarah. 402 00:21:09,302 --> 00:21:11,062 It was very hard to have a child that 403 00:21:11,097 --> 00:21:13,030 was having really bad anxiety. 404 00:21:13,064 --> 00:21:14,652 You don't really know how to help them. 405 00:21:14,687 --> 00:21:16,309 I was definitely worried about Kimberly 406 00:21:16,344 --> 00:21:18,138 when we had to take her to a therapist. 407 00:21:18,173 --> 00:21:20,486 No parent really wants take their child to a therapist. 408 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,729 No parent wants to admit that they can't 409 00:21:22,764 --> 00:21:25,491 take care of their child or address their child's needs 410 00:21:25,525 --> 00:21:26,250 on their own. 411 00:21:29,115 --> 00:21:30,910 When Kimberly started school, I was 412 00:21:30,944 --> 00:21:32,429 worried for several reasons. 413 00:21:32,463 --> 00:21:34,189 One, she didn't sleep through the night, 414 00:21:34,223 --> 00:21:36,743 so how was she going to function in school if she could not 415 00:21:36,778 --> 00:21:37,813 sleep? 416 00:21:37,848 --> 00:21:39,919 And she had an imaginary sister she played 417 00:21:39,953 --> 00:21:42,162 with on a pretty regular basis. 418 00:21:42,197 --> 00:21:44,303 And lastly, she was very empathetic. 419 00:21:44,337 --> 00:21:47,685 So she's so busy worrying about everybody else, how exactly was 420 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,033 she going to be able to go to school? 421 00:21:51,068 --> 00:21:52,656 When she was entering kindergarten, 422 00:21:52,690 --> 00:21:55,935 we sat Kimberly down and explained to her 423 00:21:55,969 --> 00:21:58,524 that talking about Sarah and bringing Sarah to school 424 00:21:58,558 --> 00:22:00,836 was not a good idea, because not everybody will 425 00:22:00,871 --> 00:22:01,872 be understanding. 426 00:22:01,906 --> 00:22:05,393 Not everybody will think it is normal. 427 00:22:05,427 --> 00:22:07,256 My biggest fear was that she was going 428 00:22:07,291 --> 00:22:09,086 to talk about living before. 429 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:10,915 That was my biggest fear. 430 00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:13,470 It's normal for a child to have an imaginary friend, 431 00:22:13,504 --> 00:22:16,921 but it is not entirely normal that they 432 00:22:16,956 --> 00:22:18,509 talk about living before. 433 00:22:18,544 --> 00:22:21,926 And it's really not normal to talk about being killed 434 00:22:21,961 --> 00:22:23,583 by being pushed in a fire. 435 00:22:23,618 --> 00:22:25,758 So taking those types of things to school, 436 00:22:25,792 --> 00:22:29,451 my concern was that they would think that she was somehow 437 00:22:29,486 --> 00:22:31,488 emotionally unstable and that there 438 00:22:31,522 --> 00:22:35,008 would be some type of backlash. 439 00:22:35,043 --> 00:22:36,838 If all of the issues that she was having 440 00:22:36,872 --> 00:22:39,012 with anxiety and sleep were related, 441 00:22:39,047 --> 00:22:42,119 I wanted to figure that out and get to the bottom of it. 442 00:22:42,153 --> 00:22:44,984 Kimberly had been talking about her life before and her sister, 443 00:22:45,018 --> 00:22:48,021 Sarah, for so long that, when she got a little older, 444 00:22:48,056 --> 00:22:50,230 I finally decided to sit her down and ask her 445 00:22:50,265 --> 00:22:52,232 about everything she thought she remembered. 446 00:22:52,267 --> 00:22:54,959 I didn't expect her to have the kind of details she had. 447 00:22:54,994 --> 00:23:00,102 She said, "I lived in Liverpool, England, between 1860 and 1870. 448 00:23:00,137 --> 00:23:01,690 My dad was a merchant. 449 00:23:01,725 --> 00:23:03,382 My brother's name was Thomas." 450 00:23:03,416 --> 00:23:05,384 She was named Christina. 451 00:23:05,418 --> 00:23:08,145 She had a sister named Sarah and a mother named Anna, 452 00:23:08,179 --> 00:23:12,391 and they were poor and slept in a very small home, 453 00:23:12,425 --> 00:23:13,461 in a straw bed. 454 00:23:13,495 --> 00:23:15,980 That one night, when they were all sleeping, 455 00:23:16,015 --> 00:23:19,121 the stove that they had caused a fire. 456 00:23:19,156 --> 00:23:21,227 And because they were sleeping in a straw bed, 457 00:23:21,261 --> 00:23:22,849 it went up very quickly. 458 00:23:22,884 --> 00:23:25,749 And her sister, thinking that she was helping her 459 00:23:25,783 --> 00:23:27,613 during that fire when a beam fell, 460 00:23:27,647 --> 00:23:30,339 actually pushed her into the fire, 461 00:23:30,374 --> 00:23:34,620 because the beam fell on Christina, who is now Kimberly. 462 00:23:34,654 --> 00:23:38,106 I wouldn't want to sleep either if, at some point in time, 463 00:23:38,140 --> 00:23:39,866 a fire started when I was sleeping. 464 00:23:39,901 --> 00:23:42,800 So all the little stories about "Sarah 465 00:23:42,835 --> 00:23:45,976 wanted to come play with her because she felt bad" 466 00:23:46,010 --> 00:23:47,322 made sense. 467 00:23:47,356 --> 00:23:51,464 Not sleeping made sense. 468 00:23:51,499 --> 00:23:53,984 When Kimberly talked about having a sister 469 00:23:54,018 --> 00:23:56,504 and living before, it was so matter-of-fact 470 00:23:56,538 --> 00:23:58,229 that I knew she was telling the truth. 471 00:23:58,264 --> 00:23:59,748 She believed it. 472 00:23:59,783 --> 00:24:02,820 I started to wonder, could my child have lived before? 473 00:24:11,139 --> 00:24:12,692 My daughter, Kimberly, believes 474 00:24:12,727 --> 00:24:15,799 she had a past life where she died by being pushed in a fire 475 00:24:15,833 --> 00:24:16,593 by her sister. 476 00:24:17,904 --> 00:24:20,700 She believes her sister Sarah's presence is with her now 477 00:24:20,735 --> 00:24:23,496 in this lifetime, and it still affects her. 478 00:24:31,539 --> 00:24:33,195 Kimberly is at a point in her life 479 00:24:33,230 --> 00:24:35,612 right now that she's still pretty lost. 480 00:24:35,646 --> 00:24:37,510 She doesn't really know what she wants to do, 481 00:24:37,545 --> 00:24:39,512 where she wants to go. 482 00:24:39,547 --> 00:24:41,687 I'm Kimberly, and I'm 21 years old. 483 00:24:41,721 --> 00:24:45,725 In my past life, I passed away in a house fire. 484 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,280 I think because of the way I passed away in my past life, 485 00:24:49,315 --> 00:24:54,631 I will probably always have sleeping problems in this life. 486 00:24:54,665 --> 00:24:58,186 In this life, I have a really hard time with tasks 487 00:24:58,220 --> 00:25:00,706 that involve growing up. 488 00:25:00,740 --> 00:25:03,502 High school graduation was really stressful to me, 489 00:25:03,536 --> 00:25:07,264 because that was a stepping stone into becoming an adult. 490 00:25:07,298 --> 00:25:11,164 And I think it's because my last life I died really young. 491 00:25:11,199 --> 00:25:12,787 Therefore, this time around, it's 492 00:25:12,821 --> 00:25:16,273 my first time being an adult. Now, 493 00:25:16,307 --> 00:25:18,827 I don't see Sarah as an apparition. 494 00:25:18,862 --> 00:25:20,691 I don't see her as a person. 495 00:25:20,726 --> 00:25:24,143 I don't ever walk into a room and she's there. 496 00:25:24,177 --> 00:25:26,801 But I do have a sense of someone's 497 00:25:26,835 --> 00:25:28,250 watching me sometimes. 498 00:25:28,285 --> 00:25:31,599 And for me, because of the way I feel comforted 499 00:25:31,633 --> 00:25:34,705 and I'm not scared, I always feel like it's Sarah. 500 00:25:34,740 --> 00:25:37,087 I'm still really comforted by the idea 501 00:25:37,121 --> 00:25:38,157 that she's following me. 502 00:25:40,884 --> 00:25:43,093 She really has looked over Kimberly 503 00:25:43,127 --> 00:25:46,510 and helped Kimberly as much as she can in this lifetime, 504 00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:49,789 but it really is time for Sarah's spirit 505 00:25:49,824 --> 00:25:53,759 to be acknowledged, forgiven, and let go. 506 00:25:53,793 --> 00:25:56,382 She's been with me my entire life. 507 00:25:56,416 --> 00:26:00,904 It's kind of like a security blanket spirit for me. 508 00:26:00,938 --> 00:26:04,977 If she suddenly wasn't in my life and I realized that, 509 00:26:05,011 --> 00:26:07,427 it would make me miss her. 510 00:26:07,462 --> 00:26:08,946 I'm hoping to be able to have 511 00:26:08,981 --> 00:26:11,742 a one-on-one, heart-to-heart talk with Kimberly 512 00:26:11,777 --> 00:26:14,676 about letting go of her past life. 513 00:26:14,711 --> 00:26:19,267 And that way, both of them can go on and be happy and healthy 514 00:26:19,301 --> 00:26:23,202 and succeed at whatever they choose to do apart, 515 00:26:23,236 --> 00:26:24,444 but at the same time. 516 00:26:24,479 --> 00:26:26,515 And Kimberly can really just sleep through the night. 517 00:26:35,317 --> 00:26:37,596 My son is writing the Russian alphabet. 518 00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:39,011 He's speaking Russian. 519 00:26:39,045 --> 00:26:41,392 He's having dreams of Russian soldiers. 520 00:26:49,573 --> 00:26:51,575 And I wanted to try to make some sense of this. 521 00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:55,475 I thought, how could this be? 522 00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:58,858 The counselor asked me what Evan had suffered through his life, 523 00:26:58,893 --> 00:27:01,033 if he'd suffered any severe trauma. 524 00:27:01,067 --> 00:27:04,761 I looked at her, surprised, because he hadn't experienced 525 00:27:04,795 --> 00:27:07,487 anything traumatic. 526 00:27:07,522 --> 00:27:11,630 As far as I know, there's nothing in his childhood 527 00:27:11,664 --> 00:27:15,875 that would cause PTSD. 528 00:27:15,910 --> 00:27:18,671 At that time, Evan was withdrawn. 529 00:27:18,706 --> 00:27:21,363 He stayed away from other people, 530 00:27:21,398 --> 00:27:24,712 didn't want to initiate contact with others 531 00:27:24,746 --> 00:27:26,092 or form friendships. 532 00:27:26,127 --> 00:27:27,438 He had anxiety. 533 00:27:27,473 --> 00:27:28,163 He was stressed. 534 00:27:30,959 --> 00:27:32,858 I needed to get some answers. 535 00:27:32,892 --> 00:27:35,688 I needed to help my son live his life today. 536 00:27:35,723 --> 00:27:39,174 We started researching a lot of the details from Evan's dreams, 537 00:27:39,209 --> 00:27:44,041 and we found that there was a sharpshooter named Ivan Mikhail 538 00:27:44,076 --> 00:27:49,598 Sidorenko, and he was one of the best sharpshooters in Russia. 539 00:27:49,633 --> 00:27:52,084 When Evan saw his picture, he felt a connection 540 00:27:52,118 --> 00:27:53,119 with this man. 541 00:27:53,154 --> 00:27:55,052 They have similar looks, that he said, 542 00:27:55,087 --> 00:27:57,365 "You know how when you look in someone's eyes, 543 00:27:57,399 --> 00:27:58,884 you can feel something? 544 00:27:58,918 --> 00:28:01,645 I feel something when I look at him." 545 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,855 And as we read the details of this man's military career, 546 00:28:04,890 --> 00:28:07,858 most of it matched up with Evan's dreams. 547 00:28:07,893 --> 00:28:12,173 In 1944, Ivan Sidorenko was awarded the Hero of the Soviet 548 00:28:12,207 --> 00:28:15,417 Union, a very high and prestigious award. 549 00:28:15,452 --> 00:28:18,766 Ivan Sidorenko fought in the battle of Moscow, 550 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,527 and a lot of the details about the Battle of Moscow 551 00:28:21,561 --> 00:28:23,943 were revealed in Evan's dreams. 552 00:28:23,978 --> 00:28:28,603 I believe that Evan could have been Ivan Sidorenko. 553 00:28:28,637 --> 00:28:32,158 Evan's name even matched up with Ivan's-- 554 00:28:32,193 --> 00:28:36,542 Ivan Mikhailovich and Evan Michael. 555 00:28:36,576 --> 00:28:37,646 I was floored. 556 00:28:37,681 --> 00:28:38,820 Wow. 557 00:28:38,855 --> 00:28:39,787 That could really be him. 558 00:28:48,209 --> 00:28:51,695 My son has vivid memories of being a Russian sniper in World 559 00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:52,800 War II. 560 00:28:52,834 --> 00:28:54,836 He has flashbacks that impact his life. 561 00:29:03,051 --> 00:29:06,675 I was excited to finally see some meaning behind all 562 00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:10,369 of this craziness that was going on for so many years. 563 00:29:10,403 --> 00:29:11,888 And I was excited to know that there 564 00:29:11,922 --> 00:29:15,443 was some kind of parallel, possibly the actual person, 565 00:29:15,477 --> 00:29:16,547 that we could look to. 566 00:29:20,344 --> 00:29:21,760 Evan still has nightmares. 567 00:29:21,794 --> 00:29:22,933 They're not as frequent. 568 00:29:22,968 --> 00:29:27,800 He still has flashbacks, and he still has anxiety. 569 00:29:27,835 --> 00:29:30,044 I'm Evan. 570 00:29:30,078 --> 00:29:33,633 In my past life, I believe I was a Soviet soldier during World 571 00:29:33,668 --> 00:29:37,223 War II named Ivan Sidorenko. 572 00:29:37,258 --> 00:29:40,813 When I was a kid, I had all these pretty bad nightmares. 573 00:29:40,848 --> 00:29:44,713 The dreams were set during World War II on the Eastern Front 574 00:29:44,748 --> 00:29:48,027 during the time the Nazis and Soviets were fighting 575 00:29:48,062 --> 00:29:49,373 each other. 576 00:29:49,408 --> 00:29:54,413 And that was, I think, 1941 or 1942, around those years. 577 00:29:54,447 --> 00:29:55,759 There was this one dream. 578 00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:57,623 I was crawling, like, through this trench. 579 00:29:57,657 --> 00:29:59,038 And I guess it was a man-made one, 580 00:29:59,073 --> 00:30:01,144 and there was machine gun fire and bombs going off, 581 00:30:01,178 --> 00:30:02,421 and it was super loud out. 582 00:30:02,455 --> 00:30:05,734 And it was just me and a couple other guys and one girl. 583 00:30:05,769 --> 00:30:08,289 And I noticed there was this big old factory in the distance, 584 00:30:08,323 --> 00:30:09,877 and I guess that was our destination. 585 00:30:09,911 --> 00:30:10,947 And we went there. 586 00:30:10,981 --> 00:30:12,327 And as soon as we went into the factory, 587 00:30:12,362 --> 00:30:13,846 they were our guys so we didn't have 588 00:30:13,881 --> 00:30:15,227 to worry about the fighting. 589 00:30:15,261 --> 00:30:17,781 And I remember someone taking me and-- like a guy with a cap. 590 00:30:17,816 --> 00:30:19,231 I remember that guy coming up to me 591 00:30:19,265 --> 00:30:20,680 and putting his hand at my shoulder 592 00:30:20,715 --> 00:30:22,959 and saying, "Ivan, go up there." 593 00:30:22,993 --> 00:30:27,446 I remember him doing something like, 594 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,173 or something like that, and pointing up to this catwalk. 595 00:30:30,207 --> 00:30:31,622 As soon as I got up there, I could 596 00:30:31,657 --> 00:30:34,556 see a bunch of German tanks coming towards us. 597 00:30:34,591 --> 00:30:35,868 And I thought oh, boy. 598 00:30:35,903 --> 00:30:38,215 And I knew right away that they wanted me to do something 599 00:30:38,250 --> 00:30:40,355 like pick them off or something. 600 00:30:40,390 --> 00:30:43,462 And I remember just thinking, that's it. 601 00:30:43,496 --> 00:30:46,085 Holy crap, it's pretty much up to me to defend it. 602 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,261 If not, then we're all dead. 603 00:30:51,677 --> 00:30:55,646 That was a particularly terrifying dream. 604 00:30:55,681 --> 00:30:59,892 I would like for Evan to have a full life, 605 00:30:59,927 --> 00:31:02,653 have a family of his own, if he wishes. 606 00:31:02,688 --> 00:31:05,380 I want him to be happy. 607 00:31:05,415 --> 00:31:09,177 How does a person fight memories about a war that 608 00:31:09,212 --> 00:31:11,697 happened generations ago? 609 00:31:11,731 --> 00:31:14,562 All I know is we have to find a solution. 610 00:31:14,596 --> 00:31:17,323 Will my son ever be able to put the past behind him 611 00:31:17,358 --> 00:31:18,393 and move on? 612 00:31:18,428 --> 00:31:19,774 I just hope it's not too late. 613 00:31:31,337 --> 00:31:34,858 Me and Kimberly are here today so that we can talk about her 614 00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:38,413 letting go of the past life and of Sarah, 615 00:31:38,448 --> 00:31:41,623 giving Kimberly the permission to move forward in this life 616 00:31:41,658 --> 00:31:43,384 and be comfortable and happy. 617 00:31:51,875 --> 00:31:53,981 It is important for Kimberly to move on 618 00:31:54,015 --> 00:31:58,330 so that she can be happy and healthy and content 619 00:31:58,364 --> 00:32:03,093 in this life, without being burdened or worried 620 00:32:03,128 --> 00:32:05,302 about the past life. 621 00:32:05,337 --> 00:32:09,030 You need help to move forward and grow up and be an adult, 622 00:32:09,065 --> 00:32:11,481 and you have every right to do that. 623 00:32:11,515 --> 00:32:15,968 So for me, there's a few reasons why I think that you should let 624 00:32:16,003 --> 00:32:17,176 Sarah go. 625 00:32:17,211 --> 00:32:20,386 And some of those are maybe you would sleep better, 626 00:32:20,421 --> 00:32:22,941 maybe you would have less anxiety. 627 00:32:22,975 --> 00:32:24,908 When I was in my past life, 628 00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:28,498 I did share a room with Sarah and my littler brother. 629 00:32:28,532 --> 00:32:32,398 And today I cannot sleep by myself. 630 00:32:32,433 --> 00:32:34,055 I'm going to miss her. 631 00:32:34,090 --> 00:32:35,954 Maybe she could be born and come back 632 00:32:35,988 --> 00:32:40,303 and you can kind of be thankful for what you've had with her, 633 00:32:40,337 --> 00:32:42,477 but know that it's time to move forward. 634 00:32:42,512 --> 00:32:45,377 I do want her to be able to move on and do her next life 635 00:32:45,411 --> 00:32:47,862 and be her own person. 636 00:32:47,896 --> 00:32:50,830 I don't want to hold onto the memories that are bad. 637 00:32:50,865 --> 00:32:53,695 I prefer to hang onto the memories of the good times, 638 00:32:53,730 --> 00:32:55,559 talking to my sister in this life. 639 00:32:55,594 --> 00:32:59,115 And we're both at a point where I need to grow up in this life, 640 00:32:59,149 --> 00:33:01,048 and she has to grow up into her next one. 641 00:33:01,082 --> 00:33:02,428 Kimberly has been holding 642 00:33:02,463 --> 00:33:05,052 onto her past life and her sister, Sarah, for such 643 00:33:05,086 --> 00:33:06,432 a long time. 644 00:33:06,467 --> 00:33:07,951 If I can get her to let go of Sarah, 645 00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:10,816 maybe I can get her to move on from her past life. 646 00:33:10,850 --> 00:33:13,370 I'm hoping Kimberly can move on with this life 647 00:33:13,405 --> 00:33:15,752 and Sarah can move on to her next life. 648 00:33:15,786 --> 00:33:20,032 So I was thinking that we could light a couple of candles, 649 00:33:20,067 --> 00:33:24,726 one for you and one for Sarah, and maybe say a prayer to Saint 650 00:33:24,761 --> 00:33:29,007 Michael and help you and her break your bond that you've 651 00:33:29,041 --> 00:33:30,732 had your whole life. 652 00:33:30,767 --> 00:33:33,011 We've chosen saying a prayer to Saint Michael 653 00:33:33,045 --> 00:33:36,566 because we are of Catholic faith. 654 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,224 They say that Saint Michael is the saint that 655 00:33:39,258 --> 00:33:42,054 is closest to angels. 656 00:33:42,089 --> 00:33:45,195 He is a connection between both worlds, 657 00:33:45,230 --> 00:33:49,372 and it is thought that he can help sever ties when there's 658 00:33:49,406 --> 00:33:52,030 ties that are too closely linked. 659 00:33:52,064 --> 00:33:53,514 What do you think about that? 660 00:33:53,548 --> 00:33:56,068 I think opening the door would be a good start. 661 00:33:56,103 --> 00:33:59,175 I never thought about using a patron saint. 662 00:33:59,209 --> 00:34:02,247 I wear a saint every day, so I think it was the right route 663 00:34:02,281 --> 00:34:03,662 to go. 664 00:34:03,696 --> 00:34:06,527 Saint Michael, please help Sarah say goodbye so 665 00:34:06,561 --> 00:34:10,289 that Kimberly can be happy and Sarah can look down on her 666 00:34:10,324 --> 00:34:12,188 and be happy for her. 667 00:34:12,222 --> 00:34:16,261 I want to call Saint Michael to help her bear 668 00:34:16,295 --> 00:34:19,574 the weight so that she can move on, 669 00:34:19,609 --> 00:34:21,404 because I don't want to hold her back, 670 00:34:21,438 --> 00:34:24,269 as much as she doesn't want to hold me back. 671 00:34:24,303 --> 00:34:27,444 And they both could move forward in a positive manner. 672 00:34:27,479 --> 00:34:28,238 Amen 673 00:34:28,273 --> 00:34:28,997 Amen. 674 00:34:33,140 --> 00:34:35,038 Look. 675 00:34:35,073 --> 00:34:36,971 There's only one. 676 00:34:37,005 --> 00:34:39,387 Maybe that means something. 677 00:34:39,422 --> 00:34:42,218 I was really, really surprised to see her candle went out 678 00:34:42,252 --> 00:34:45,255 in the middle of talking to Saint Michael. 679 00:34:45,290 --> 00:34:48,465 That means a lot to me, because I think that's her showing me 680 00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:50,157 that she's ready to move on. 681 00:34:51,296 --> 00:34:54,022 I'm feeling pretty good about how it went. 682 00:34:54,057 --> 00:34:57,957 Clearly, she still carries a lot of emotion for it, 683 00:34:57,992 --> 00:35:02,100 but hopefully this will bring the closure that she needs. 684 00:35:02,134 --> 00:35:03,101 And how are you? 685 00:35:03,135 --> 00:35:04,619 Are you OK? 686 00:35:04,654 --> 00:35:07,588 I think I'm OK just because I saw it. 687 00:35:07,622 --> 00:35:08,554 Right. 688 00:35:08,589 --> 00:35:12,213 Like, I saw her take the invitation. 689 00:35:12,248 --> 00:35:13,283 I think that means a lot. 690 00:35:13,318 --> 00:35:14,112 Yeah. 691 00:35:14,146 --> 00:35:14,940 Like, a lot. 692 00:35:28,091 --> 00:35:31,646 I think I'll be able to move on really well making adult steps, 693 00:35:31,681 --> 00:35:34,235 like going to college and getting a degree 694 00:35:34,270 --> 00:35:36,720 and setting myself up with a career. 695 00:35:36,755 --> 00:35:41,242 I think it'll be easier for me because I know that-- 696 00:35:41,277 --> 00:35:49,216 I know it's time for me to become an adult. 697 00:35:50,665 --> 00:35:53,461 My son, Evan, has nightmares. 698 00:35:53,496 --> 00:35:56,878 He has very vivid dreams. 699 00:35:56,913 --> 00:35:58,742 His past memories are still affecting his life. 700 00:36:08,545 --> 00:36:11,583 Will my son ever be able to put the past behind him 701 00:36:11,617 --> 00:36:13,550 and move on? 702 00:36:13,585 --> 00:36:17,244 There is a therapist that's going to be coming to speak 703 00:36:17,278 --> 00:36:21,282 to Evan to try to help him deal with his problems, his fears 704 00:36:21,317 --> 00:36:23,181 and anxieties and his nightmares. 705 00:36:23,215 --> 00:36:24,216 I'm looking forward to it. 706 00:36:24,251 --> 00:36:26,391 I really hope she can help him. 707 00:36:26,425 --> 00:36:27,599 I'm Michelle Rubin. 708 00:36:27,633 --> 00:36:31,050 I am a psychotherapist, which is a talk therapist. 709 00:36:31,085 --> 00:36:33,225 People come and talk to me about all kinds of issues 710 00:36:33,260 --> 00:36:35,641 in their lives, but I have a specialty 711 00:36:35,676 --> 00:36:39,300 both in grief and loss and in spirituality. 712 00:36:39,335 --> 00:36:41,406 And I'm here in Springfield, Missouri, 713 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,408 to meet with Evan and his mom-- 714 00:36:43,442 --> 00:36:44,616 Nice to meet you. - Hi, Evan. 715 00:36:44,650 --> 00:36:46,238 Nice to meet you, Michelle. - Hi, Evan. 716 00:36:46,273 --> 00:36:47,550 So nice to meet you. 717 00:36:47,584 --> 00:36:50,069 because he has memories, since he was a little boy, 718 00:36:50,104 --> 00:36:53,728 of being a Russian sniper in World War II, 719 00:36:53,763 --> 00:36:57,767 and this has caused him a lot of stress. 720 00:36:57,801 --> 00:37:00,218 So I'm curious to work with him and find out 721 00:37:00,252 --> 00:37:01,909 how this is affecting his life today 722 00:37:01,943 --> 00:37:05,119 and see what we can do to help him move forward 723 00:37:05,153 --> 00:37:07,742 and feel more at peace with this. 724 00:37:07,777 --> 00:37:10,193 You know, I want to sort of turn it to you. 725 00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:11,263 We've spoken on the phone. 726 00:37:11,298 --> 00:37:12,264 Yeah. 727 00:37:12,299 --> 00:37:13,679 I've got some of the base information 728 00:37:13,714 --> 00:37:16,993 that you happened to come into this life remembering 729 00:37:17,027 --> 00:37:17,821 your past life. 730 00:37:17,856 --> 00:37:19,133 Yeah, it is pretty freaky. 731 00:37:19,167 --> 00:37:20,307 I'm not going to lie. 732 00:37:20,341 --> 00:37:21,722 I've lived with it my whole life. 733 00:37:21,756 --> 00:37:25,588 And you know, once I figured out what all this actually was, 734 00:37:25,622 --> 00:37:27,624 I thought, oh, OK, so I'm not crazy. 735 00:37:27,659 --> 00:37:31,041 And then the next problem became, well, now that we know, 736 00:37:31,076 --> 00:37:32,180 who can I tell? 737 00:37:32,215 --> 00:37:34,182 And for that matter, who can I tell and trust? 738 00:37:34,217 --> 00:37:38,117 So you've done a lot of, it seems like, soul-searching. 739 00:37:38,152 --> 00:37:39,360 Yeah. 740 00:37:39,395 --> 00:37:41,604 How is this impacting your life right now? 741 00:37:41,638 --> 00:37:43,502 Right now, I still have those dreams 742 00:37:43,537 --> 00:37:46,333 and stuff like that still does go on. 743 00:37:46,367 --> 00:37:47,610 So it's not completely gone? 744 00:37:47,644 --> 00:37:48,680 No, no, no. 745 00:37:48,714 --> 00:37:52,787 By no means is it, like, just wiped away. 746 00:37:52,822 --> 00:37:54,996 If you think of me as, like, a room, 747 00:37:55,031 --> 00:37:57,240 there's that little dark spider in the corner. 748 00:37:57,275 --> 00:37:59,035 He used to consume the whole room, 749 00:37:59,069 --> 00:38:02,314 but somebody came along and put him in a little tiny corner. 750 00:38:02,349 --> 00:38:03,488 So it's still kind of there. 751 00:38:03,522 --> 00:38:05,455 But every now and then, it'll spin its web down 752 00:38:05,490 --> 00:38:06,525 and try and eat at you. 753 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,113 So it doesn't bother you all the time, 754 00:38:08,147 --> 00:38:09,597 but it's kind of just lurking there. 755 00:38:09,632 --> 00:38:10,874 Yeah. - It could show up. 756 00:38:10,909 --> 00:38:12,013 You don't know when, maybe. 757 00:38:12,048 --> 00:38:13,567 Lurking-- that's a perfect word. 758 00:38:13,601 --> 00:38:14,844 Lurking, OK. - Yeah. 759 00:38:14,878 --> 00:38:18,088 So one thing we haven't hit on is this idea 760 00:38:18,123 --> 00:38:21,195 that you've, somewhere along the line, gotten a diagnosis. 761 00:38:21,229 --> 00:38:22,576 Is that right? 762 00:38:22,610 --> 00:38:27,408 He was told by a counselor that he had symptoms of PTSD. 763 00:38:27,443 --> 00:38:30,480 They suggested that he go to a psychiatrist. 764 00:38:30,515 --> 00:38:33,759 But we aren't in that vein of give him a pill, 765 00:38:33,794 --> 00:38:34,967 it'll be better. 766 00:38:35,002 --> 00:38:36,866 And that's what I was afraid that would happen, 767 00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:39,178 is they'd just give him some kind of medication instead 768 00:38:39,213 --> 00:38:40,732 of getting to the root of the problem. 769 00:38:40,766 --> 00:38:42,837 Because I don't think many psychiatrists 770 00:38:42,872 --> 00:38:45,771 would say, oh, yeah, let's check out this past life thing. 771 00:38:45,806 --> 00:38:48,049 So now I'll throw in one of the, I was going to say, 772 00:38:48,084 --> 00:38:50,017 the philosophies that has sort of come out-- 773 00:38:50,051 --> 00:38:51,190 Yeah. 774 00:38:51,225 --> 00:38:52,882 that I've heard myself and I've read. 775 00:38:52,916 --> 00:38:56,610 It's sort of the idea that our soul needs to keep coming back 776 00:38:56,644 --> 00:38:58,922 to experience every angle. 777 00:38:58,957 --> 00:39:01,580 Some you're the victim and some you're the perpetrator. 778 00:39:01,615 --> 00:39:05,515 Some you're madly in love, some you're alone. 779 00:39:05,550 --> 00:39:07,068 And really, you have to, like, come 780 00:39:07,103 --> 00:39:09,416 into many, many, many different lifetimes 781 00:39:09,450 --> 00:39:10,762 to gather all of that knowledge. 782 00:39:10,796 --> 00:39:14,386 It's not that someone is evil and someone's good. 783 00:39:14,421 --> 00:39:16,388 You're not going to be judged for the life 784 00:39:16,423 --> 00:39:18,045 that you killed people in war. 785 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:19,495 And even if you were good at it, it 786 00:39:19,529 --> 00:39:21,807 doesn't mean you were a bad spirit or soul. 787 00:39:21,842 --> 00:39:25,086 That was just that one lesson in that one life. 788 00:39:25,121 --> 00:39:26,467 Does that make-- 789 00:39:26,502 --> 00:39:28,435 So it's not really a personal thing? 790 00:39:28,469 --> 00:39:30,022 It's just a thing that happened to me. 791 00:39:30,057 --> 00:39:31,403 Exactly. Yeah. 792 00:39:31,438 --> 00:39:33,785 Is there anything else you'd want to share that we haven't 793 00:39:33,819 --> 00:39:34,682 covered-- Well-- 794 00:39:34,717 --> 00:39:36,097 today? 795 00:39:36,132 --> 00:39:37,720 - I've always wondered, will the dreams ever just stop 796 00:39:37,754 --> 00:39:41,309 one day and just be like, poof, and I don't still have to ever 797 00:39:41,344 --> 00:39:42,587 worry about that again? 798 00:39:42,621 --> 00:39:44,312 Or is that all that's going to be there? 799 00:39:44,347 --> 00:39:47,523 I think the more work you do on it to clear it, 800 00:39:47,557 --> 00:39:49,835 almost like a clearing, you could probably access it 801 00:39:49,870 --> 00:39:51,492 if you wanted to for different reasons, 802 00:39:51,527 --> 00:39:54,012 but I think that it wouldn't be coming to you when you don't 803 00:39:54,046 --> 00:39:55,151 want it to. 804 00:39:55,185 --> 00:39:56,946 So what you're saying is, it could keep going? 805 00:39:56,980 --> 00:39:58,396 Yeah, it could keep going downhill. 806 00:39:58,430 --> 00:40:00,018 Well, that's good. That's good to note. 807 00:40:00,052 --> 00:40:03,504 But for today, I don't know how you felt about it, 808 00:40:03,539 --> 00:40:05,851 but it was a pleasure for me to meet you, 809 00:40:05,886 --> 00:40:07,439 and for you to share all of this. 810 00:40:07,474 --> 00:40:08,682 Thank you. 811 00:40:08,716 --> 00:40:10,442 And I look forward to continuing our work together. 812 00:40:10,477 --> 00:40:12,755 Well, thank you very much, and I really appreciate 813 00:40:12,789 --> 00:40:14,446 meeting you too, Michelle. And that was-- 814 00:40:14,481 --> 00:40:15,654 Yes, thank you. Yeah. 815 00:40:15,689 --> 00:40:17,000 It really helps a lot, you know. 816 00:40:17,035 --> 00:40:18,623 And I'm sure all that advice will help, 817 00:40:18,657 --> 00:40:20,245 and I'll probably learn a thing or two. 818 00:40:20,279 --> 00:40:21,971 Well, thank you very much. Appreciate it. 819 00:40:22,005 --> 00:40:23,248 Thank you. Thank you so much. 820 00:40:23,282 --> 00:40:24,145 Thank you so much. 821 00:40:24,180 --> 00:40:25,215 Thank you. 822 00:40:25,250 --> 00:40:28,253 I don't think Evan's past life in Russia 823 00:40:28,287 --> 00:40:32,568 as a sniper is something he has to get over, per se. 824 00:40:32,602 --> 00:40:34,086 I've given him some resources. 825 00:40:34,121 --> 00:40:36,261 I gave him a couple books and some CDs 826 00:40:36,295 --> 00:40:39,298 and even a worksheet that goes with the CDs that will really 827 00:40:39,333 --> 00:40:41,715 help him get more knowledge about the subject, 828 00:40:41,749 --> 00:40:44,752 so that he can look at it from the big picture perspective 829 00:40:44,787 --> 00:40:47,893 and not be so focused on the specific things that happened 830 00:40:47,928 --> 00:40:49,792 in this one lifetime for him. 831 00:40:49,826 --> 00:40:52,380 I'm excited for him as he's going to get better and move 832 00:40:52,415 --> 00:40:53,554 forward. 833 00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:55,832 I was able to get a good sense of direction 834 00:40:55,867 --> 00:40:59,146 with where I should go in my life from here. 835 00:40:59,180 --> 00:41:01,804 I'm very glad that I was able to have that talk with Michelle 836 00:41:01,838 --> 00:41:04,979 and that it'll help me be able to move forward. 837 00:41:14,886 --> 00:41:17,095 I thought it went really well. 838 00:41:17,129 --> 00:41:19,546 Evan got a chance to talk about a lot of things that's been 839 00:41:19,580 --> 00:41:21,755 on his mind for many years. 840 00:41:21,789 --> 00:41:25,206 So I think there's progress already. 841 00:41:25,241 --> 00:41:26,173 Come on, baby. 842 00:41:26,207 --> 00:41:27,623 In the next few years, I'm not sure 843 00:41:27,657 --> 00:41:29,003 exactly where I see myself. 844 00:41:29,038 --> 00:41:31,523 But I'm sure, wherever I go or whatever I do, 845 00:41:31,558 --> 00:41:34,215 I see myself in a much more positive light, 846 00:41:34,250 --> 00:41:37,771 and I definitely feel like this knowledge will benefit me. 847 00:41:37,805 --> 00:41:39,738 I love Evan with all my heart. 848 00:41:39,773 --> 00:41:41,119 He's my only son. 849 00:41:41,153 --> 00:41:41,913 Love him dearly. 850 00:41:41,947 --> 00:41:43,604 We've always been close. 851 00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:45,192 I want the world for Evan. 852 00:41:45,226 --> 00:41:48,506 I want him to have the joyous life he was put here to have. 853 00:41:48,540 --> 00:41:51,785 I want him to be a whole person and living in the present, now. 67812

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