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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,841 --> 00:00:17,155 I'd wake up to this ear-piercing scream. 2 00:00:17,189 --> 00:00:19,191 Ahna kept repeating, I'm leaving my body. 3 00:00:22,332 --> 00:00:25,991 She began crafting notes to her grandmother who had died. 4 00:00:26,026 --> 00:00:28,200 She had been receiving responses. 5 00:00:28,235 --> 00:00:30,306 Nick's drawings were disturbing. 6 00:00:30,340 --> 00:00:33,654 I watched her mouthing words to someone who wasn't there. 7 00:00:33,688 --> 00:00:39,660 She began to cry, and then went into the dying process. 8 00:00:39,694 --> 00:00:41,213 And it was eerie, because it looked 9 00:00:41,248 --> 00:00:43,215 like he knew how to hold a gun. 10 00:00:43,250 --> 00:00:44,113 He takes off. 11 00:00:44,147 --> 00:00:45,148 He just runs. 12 00:00:45,183 --> 00:00:46,598 I was having a small panic attack. 13 00:00:46,632 --> 00:00:49,118 Ahna had told me about a traumatic event that happened 14 00:00:49,152 --> 00:00:50,636 involving an earthquake. 15 00:00:50,671 --> 00:00:53,984 I could never imagine that one dream could have changed Nick's 16 00:00:54,019 --> 00:00:55,158 life forever. 17 00:00:55,193 --> 00:00:57,057 I almost broke down and cried. 18 00:00:57,091 --> 00:01:00,094 Something more was going on here that we didn't fully 19 00:01:00,129 --> 00:01:00,922 understand. 20 00:01:00,957 --> 00:01:01,923 It hit me. 21 00:01:01,958 --> 00:01:03,442 This is real. 22 00:01:03,477 --> 00:01:05,306 It occurred to me that she might be talking 23 00:01:05,341 --> 00:01:06,411 about a past life memory. 24 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:20,804 My name is Deb. 25 00:01:20,839 --> 00:01:22,116 I'm Nick's mom. 26 00:01:22,151 --> 00:01:24,774 And I live in Delaware, Ohio. 27 00:01:24,808 --> 00:01:27,777 Where we live, we've about 30 miles northwest of downtown 28 00:01:27,811 --> 00:01:29,813 Columbus, Ohio. 29 00:01:29,848 --> 00:01:32,575 Lots of farms, lots of horse ranches. 30 00:01:32,609 --> 00:01:35,129 We chose to live out here in the country, 31 00:01:35,164 --> 00:01:36,751 because we like the peace and quiet. 32 00:01:36,786 --> 00:01:37,476 It's tranquil. 33 00:01:41,135 --> 00:01:45,312 I had an extremely difficult delivery with Nicholas, 34 00:01:45,346 --> 00:01:48,004 to the point where they had to do an emergency C-section, 35 00:01:48,038 --> 00:01:50,903 because the doctor felt Nick's life and my life were 36 00:01:50,938 --> 00:01:52,836 in danger. 37 00:01:52,871 --> 00:01:56,012 When they gave me the epidural for the C-section, 38 00:01:56,046 --> 00:01:59,671 it did not take, and the doctor had to cut into me 39 00:01:59,705 --> 00:02:01,983 without anesthesia. 40 00:02:02,018 --> 00:02:06,022 It felt like a burning across my stomach. 41 00:02:06,056 --> 00:02:08,128 And all I really remember is screaming. 42 00:02:08,162 --> 00:02:10,854 I just remember screaming from the pain. 43 00:02:10,889 --> 00:02:14,064 I kind of blacked out. 44 00:02:14,099 --> 00:02:16,066 I didn't meet Nick until the next day. 45 00:02:16,101 --> 00:02:17,654 The nurse brought him in our room. 46 00:02:17,689 --> 00:02:20,381 And I just was smiling from ear to ear. 47 00:02:20,416 --> 00:02:25,455 I was so delighted to have this healthy, beautiful baby boy. 48 00:02:25,490 --> 00:02:29,252 From the minute I laid eyes on Nick, I was bonded to him. 49 00:02:29,287 --> 00:02:30,978 I really was. 50 00:02:31,012 --> 00:02:33,705 He was just my joy and my everything. 51 00:02:37,226 --> 00:02:39,193 Nick never napped. 52 00:02:39,228 --> 00:02:41,920 From a newborn on, he'd be awake from morning 53 00:02:41,954 --> 00:02:44,923 until night, which-- my mother was just shocked. 54 00:02:44,957 --> 00:02:47,339 She goes, no newborn stays awake for 12 hours. 55 00:02:47,374 --> 00:02:49,583 But Nick did. 56 00:02:49,617 --> 00:02:51,447 And then, around age three or four, 57 00:02:51,481 --> 00:02:53,932 the night terrors kicked in. 58 00:02:53,966 --> 00:02:59,593 I would wake up to this ear-piercing, shrill scream. 59 00:02:59,627 --> 00:03:04,184 It was extremely frightening for me to see my son screaming, 60 00:03:04,218 --> 00:03:09,050 and yelling, and literally fighting for his life. 61 00:03:09,085 --> 00:03:10,466 It was something he always had. 62 00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:12,813 We just thought they were bad dreams. 63 00:03:12,847 --> 00:03:15,471 So we'd comfort him and then go back to bed. 64 00:03:15,505 --> 00:03:18,681 But he'd had him ever since he was a young child. 65 00:03:18,715 --> 00:03:20,441 Nothing I could say could comfort him. 66 00:03:20,476 --> 00:03:23,099 Nothing I could do would pull him out 67 00:03:23,133 --> 00:03:26,827 of this nightmarish experience. 68 00:03:26,861 --> 00:03:30,279 For me, as a mother, watching my son go through this horrific 69 00:03:30,313 --> 00:03:32,004 experience-- these night terrors-- 70 00:03:32,039 --> 00:03:35,663 it was very draining on me, because I want to fix it. 71 00:03:35,698 --> 00:03:36,768 But it's out of my hands. 72 00:03:36,802 --> 00:03:40,150 I had no control over this. 73 00:03:40,185 --> 00:03:44,707 In the morning, he would have no memory of these night terrors. 74 00:03:44,741 --> 00:03:47,744 When Nick was a toddler, he still didn't nap. 75 00:03:47,779 --> 00:03:49,850 He was an extremely active child. 76 00:03:49,884 --> 00:03:52,059 Because he climbed everything. 77 00:03:52,093 --> 00:03:53,405 And he had no fear of anything. 78 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,546 He'd jump off his bunk bed. 79 00:03:56,581 --> 00:03:59,653 He was always very inquisitive and always very quick, 80 00:03:59,687 --> 00:04:01,033 very smart. 81 00:04:01,068 --> 00:04:04,830 Once he learned how to walk, he was always into something. 82 00:04:04,865 --> 00:04:08,489 Nick was an extremely hyperactive child. 83 00:04:08,524 --> 00:04:10,802 It was always a challenge to get him to focus 84 00:04:10,836 --> 00:04:12,597 on any task or any project. 85 00:04:17,809 --> 00:04:19,949 When Nick would play with his soldiers, 86 00:04:19,983 --> 00:04:23,711 it was the only time Nick would be quiet and play quietly 87 00:04:23,746 --> 00:04:25,920 without having to be supervised. 88 00:04:25,955 --> 00:04:29,061 One of his favorite toys was playing with the army men-- 89 00:04:29,096 --> 00:04:31,478 you know, just move them around and have little battles. 90 00:04:31,512 --> 00:04:33,963 I didn't really think about it too much at first. 91 00:04:33,997 --> 00:04:37,173 But as we noticed over time, he would start to, like, 92 00:04:37,207 --> 00:04:39,002 set them up in different formations. 93 00:04:39,037 --> 00:04:41,108 And he would put them all in a line. 94 00:04:41,142 --> 00:04:42,799 And they were very particular. 95 00:04:42,834 --> 00:04:45,906 It was more than just a boy taking his soldier 96 00:04:45,940 --> 00:04:48,564 and going, pow, pow, bang, I got you. 97 00:04:48,598 --> 00:04:52,222 There was strategy behind his play. 98 00:04:52,257 --> 00:04:54,466 Nick was a high energy kid 24/7. 99 00:04:54,501 --> 00:04:56,261 He didn't like to take naps. 100 00:04:56,296 --> 00:05:00,748 So whenever he sat quietly and played, to us, 101 00:05:00,783 --> 00:05:02,405 it was a "yay" moment. 102 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,511 Nick was normally a very hyper child. 103 00:05:04,545 --> 00:05:07,341 So I was just astounded that Nick would play 104 00:05:07,376 --> 00:05:11,069 with these soldiers so quietly. 105 00:05:11,103 --> 00:05:13,589 Whenever we would go to the toy store or something, 106 00:05:13,623 --> 00:05:15,763 of course, we would go to the weapons section. 107 00:05:15,798 --> 00:05:17,765 He liked the old Western type of thing. 108 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,355 But when he started seeing, like, muskets from maybe 109 00:05:21,390 --> 00:05:23,426 the Civil War or the Revolutionary War, 110 00:05:23,461 --> 00:05:27,948 those are the things that he would always gravitate towards. 111 00:05:27,982 --> 00:05:31,158 Another activity that I found that helped calm Nick and keep 112 00:05:31,192 --> 00:05:33,954 him quiet was sketching. 113 00:05:33,988 --> 00:05:36,197 I'd buy him crayons and markers. 114 00:05:36,232 --> 00:05:40,201 I expected pictures of puppies or playing out in the sunshine. 115 00:05:40,236 --> 00:05:43,998 But his sketches went against his natural personality, which 116 00:05:44,033 --> 00:05:46,622 was very happy-go-lucky, easygoing. 117 00:05:46,656 --> 00:05:50,660 So he would draw bloody, horrific war scenes. 118 00:05:50,695 --> 00:05:51,454 I was concerned. 119 00:05:51,489 --> 00:05:52,524 What was he thinking? 120 00:05:52,559 --> 00:05:54,008 What was going on through his head? 121 00:05:54,043 --> 00:05:57,218 And where would he even pull these images from? 122 00:05:57,253 --> 00:06:01,878 Obviously, he'd seen some kind of violence before. 123 00:06:01,913 --> 00:06:07,505 But when I would look at Nick's sketches, I was upset. 124 00:06:07,539 --> 00:06:10,266 Nick's drawings were disturbing. 125 00:06:24,694 --> 00:06:25,868 My name is Chris. 126 00:06:25,902 --> 00:06:27,490 We live in Manitou Springs. 127 00:06:27,525 --> 00:06:30,148 The area is a rich, natural area. 128 00:06:30,182 --> 00:06:33,254 Most of the town's economy is driven by tourism. 129 00:06:33,289 --> 00:06:35,395 And it's a really exciting place to be, at the foot 130 00:06:35,429 --> 00:06:36,913 of America's mountain, Pike's Peak. 131 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,332 Manitou Springs is a great family town. 132 00:06:42,367 --> 00:06:46,751 We love to spend time outdoors, walking the trails. 133 00:06:46,785 --> 00:06:49,201 My name is Jillian, and my daughter's name is Ahna. 134 00:06:51,928 --> 00:06:55,035 When Ahna was placed in my arms, I felt complete joy 135 00:06:55,069 --> 00:07:02,249 and wondered what I had been doing all my life before now. 136 00:07:02,283 --> 00:07:03,837 Ahna was a quiet baby. 137 00:07:09,498 --> 00:07:11,258 She's really curious. 138 00:07:11,292 --> 00:07:13,916 She expressed a sense of wonder about the world. 139 00:07:17,506 --> 00:07:19,991 She also exhibited signs very early 140 00:07:20,025 --> 00:07:22,994 of being really intelligent. 141 00:07:23,028 --> 00:07:26,031 When she was 16 months old, she 142 00:07:26,066 --> 00:07:30,484 was speaking in very clear sentences. 143 00:07:30,519 --> 00:07:33,867 However, when Ahna was three, something out of the ordinary 144 00:07:33,901 --> 00:07:36,663 occurred. 145 00:07:36,697 --> 00:07:39,976 Our family had just moved. 146 00:07:40,011 --> 00:07:43,497 The home that we were renting came with a rabbit whose name 147 00:07:43,532 --> 00:07:44,533 was Hop. 148 00:07:44,567 --> 00:07:48,122 The rabbit was old and died in its hutch. 149 00:07:48,157 --> 00:07:51,194 And Ahna was deeply upset. 150 00:07:51,229 --> 00:07:54,025 I thought that any three-year-old would be upset 151 00:07:54,059 --> 00:07:56,786 by the death of her rabbit. 152 00:07:56,821 --> 00:08:05,485 She began to cry and then went in to the dying process. 153 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:07,590 Ahna kept repeating, I'm leaving my body. 154 00:08:07,625 --> 00:08:08,418 I'm OK. 155 00:08:08,453 --> 00:08:09,212 It's OK. 156 00:08:09,247 --> 00:08:10,766 You're going to be OK. 157 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,529 It seemed to me that Ahna went through the death process 158 00:08:15,564 --> 00:08:18,256 of her bunny. 159 00:08:21,293 --> 00:08:25,090 When I looked into her eyes when she was most upset, 160 00:08:25,125 --> 00:08:28,438 I could just see her hurt and bewilderment. 161 00:08:28,473 --> 00:08:31,580 It was devastating to see her devastation. 162 00:08:31,614 --> 00:08:35,791 And I felt helpless and sad myself. 163 00:08:35,825 --> 00:08:40,485 I don't know where Ahna got the idea about dying. 164 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,902 It seemed to me that it was a sophisticated view of life 165 00:08:43,937 --> 00:08:46,491 and death for a three-year-old. 166 00:08:46,526 --> 00:08:48,976 First, it was a little strange. 167 00:08:49,011 --> 00:08:51,565 I really didn't know what was going on. 168 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,604 And then what happened next shocked me. 169 00:08:55,638 --> 00:08:59,055 When Ahna was three, we were walking into a store, 170 00:08:59,090 --> 00:09:01,644 and a song was playing. 171 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,683 The song was "Arms of an Angel" by Sarah McLachlan. 172 00:09:05,717 --> 00:09:09,410 And Ahna said, every time I hear that song, I think 173 00:09:09,445 --> 00:09:10,135 of Grandma Marti. 174 00:09:12,828 --> 00:09:16,141 Ahna was two years old when her grandmother died. 175 00:09:16,176 --> 00:09:20,042 Ahna could not have known that Marti was going through chemo 176 00:09:20,076 --> 00:09:25,841 and she would play "Arms of an Angel" to comfort her. 177 00:09:25,875 --> 00:09:29,534 I was stunned. 178 00:09:29,569 --> 00:09:31,881 The first three years of Ahna's life 179 00:09:31,916 --> 00:09:33,193 were spent in St. Louis. 180 00:09:33,227 --> 00:09:34,643 And my mother was in Colorado. 181 00:09:34,677 --> 00:09:36,817 So we were not physically together, 182 00:09:36,852 --> 00:09:40,890 except when my mother was able to come to St. Louis, which was 183 00:09:40,925 --> 00:09:44,169 rare, because my mother was undergoing chemo 184 00:09:44,204 --> 00:09:46,896 and all kinds of treatment. 185 00:09:46,931 --> 00:09:51,832 Then, when she was three, we were leaving a restaurant. 186 00:09:51,867 --> 00:09:54,248 Ahna was a little ahead of the group. 187 00:09:54,283 --> 00:09:57,942 And I watched her look up and start mouthing words to someone 188 00:09:57,976 --> 00:09:59,978 who wasn't there. 189 00:10:00,013 --> 00:10:02,429 Ahna's manner, the direction of her 190 00:10:02,463 --> 00:10:07,641 gaze, and the position of her body felt completely authentic. 191 00:10:07,676 --> 00:10:09,160 When I approached her and asked her 192 00:10:09,194 --> 00:10:14,786 with whom she'd been speaking, she said Grandma Marti. 193 00:10:14,821 --> 00:10:17,271 This experience happened only a few months 194 00:10:17,306 --> 00:10:20,481 after my mother had passed away. 195 00:10:20,516 --> 00:10:23,070 I almost broke down and cried. 196 00:10:23,105 --> 00:10:24,900 A mother generally knows when her child 197 00:10:24,934 --> 00:10:30,940 is using her imagination and making things up versus coming 198 00:10:30,975 --> 00:10:35,117 from her authentic self. 199 00:10:35,151 --> 00:10:38,430 Something more was going on here that we didn't fully 200 00:10:38,465 --> 00:10:39,397 understand. 201 00:10:47,129 --> 00:10:50,891 For so long, my son had night terrors. 202 00:10:50,926 --> 00:10:53,653 Nick was absolutely mesmerized as he 203 00:10:53,687 --> 00:10:56,379 played with these soldiers. 204 00:10:56,414 --> 00:10:59,693 And his interest in war and weapons was growing. 205 00:10:59,728 --> 00:11:00,763 I didn't know what to do. 206 00:11:09,013 --> 00:11:10,531 I was concerned as his mother. 207 00:11:10,566 --> 00:11:11,636 What was he thinking? 208 00:11:11,671 --> 00:11:13,051 What was going on through his head? 209 00:11:13,086 --> 00:11:16,227 And where would he even pull these images from? 210 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:21,922 My daughter's preschool sent home a note 211 00:11:21,957 --> 00:11:23,890 and they said there was a photographer there. 212 00:11:23,924 --> 00:11:27,341 So I took Nick in to have a picture taken with his sister. 213 00:11:27,376 --> 00:11:31,173 And there was boxes of costumes for the students to pick from. 214 00:11:31,207 --> 00:11:33,762 I thought Nick might pick a superhero. 215 00:11:33,796 --> 00:11:36,730 Most of the costumes were superhero costumes, 216 00:11:36,765 --> 00:11:39,388 or for current, you know, cartoon shows. 217 00:11:39,422 --> 00:11:41,631 But instead, he put together this outfit 218 00:11:41,666 --> 00:11:43,185 from several boxes-- 219 00:11:43,219 --> 00:11:45,049 very old-fashioned looking. 220 00:11:45,083 --> 00:11:46,567 I knew it was military. 221 00:11:46,602 --> 00:11:48,328 I didn't know what time period it was from. 222 00:11:48,362 --> 00:11:49,639 It was just really unusual. 223 00:11:49,674 --> 00:11:51,849 And the photographer even commented, 224 00:11:51,883 --> 00:11:53,333 that's really strange. 225 00:11:53,367 --> 00:11:55,749 Your son has put together a Civil War outfit. 226 00:11:55,784 --> 00:11:58,648 How was your son able to put this outfit together? 227 00:11:58,683 --> 00:11:59,788 And I shrugged my shoulders. 228 00:11:59,822 --> 00:12:01,341 I had no idea. 229 00:12:01,375 --> 00:12:05,345 The photographer took a picture, and Nick refused to smile. 230 00:12:05,379 --> 00:12:06,795 Nick was so serious. 231 00:12:06,829 --> 00:12:11,075 And he stood still as a statue for this picture, which was not 232 00:12:11,109 --> 00:12:13,905 characteristic of Nick at all. 233 00:12:13,940 --> 00:12:16,908 Then the photographer asked me, does your son normally 234 00:12:16,943 --> 00:12:17,978 hold still for pictures? 235 00:12:18,013 --> 00:12:19,566 And I said, absolutely not. 236 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,812 Nick's always goofy and making silly faces. 237 00:12:23,846 --> 00:12:27,401 So for me, I was shocked that Nick was being so still and so 238 00:12:27,436 --> 00:12:29,162 serious. 239 00:12:29,196 --> 00:12:33,476 Then he held this gun to his chest. 240 00:12:33,511 --> 00:12:36,617 It was eerie, because it looked like he knew what he was doing. 241 00:12:36,652 --> 00:12:39,310 Like, he knew how to hold a gun and how to pose 242 00:12:39,344 --> 00:12:40,794 for a picture like that. 243 00:12:43,624 --> 00:12:46,213 I did find it a little strange that Nick was very fascinated 244 00:12:46,248 --> 00:12:50,286 with military history, because we're not a military family. 245 00:12:50,321 --> 00:12:51,563 That's a little odd. 246 00:12:51,598 --> 00:12:53,255 He was always interested in history. 247 00:12:53,289 --> 00:12:56,568 So to me, it was just an extension of his interest. 248 00:12:56,603 --> 00:12:59,364 You know, I was really feeling that Nick was kind 249 00:12:59,399 --> 00:13:02,954 of borderlining on focusing too much on military history 250 00:13:02,989 --> 00:13:04,059 and battles. 251 00:13:04,093 --> 00:13:06,544 And there's more to life than that. 252 00:13:06,578 --> 00:13:10,306 I pressured him to focus more on other academic areas 253 00:13:10,341 --> 00:13:13,102 of his life and sports. 254 00:13:13,137 --> 00:13:16,071 It wasn't long until I found out why my son was actually 255 00:13:16,105 --> 00:13:18,867 drawn to the military. 256 00:13:18,901 --> 00:13:21,524 And when I did find out, I really wasn't sure what to do. 257 00:13:31,845 --> 00:13:34,296 Our daughter Ahna was a smart, happy child. 258 00:13:34,330 --> 00:13:36,505 Ahna's grandmother died. 259 00:13:36,539 --> 00:13:39,784 Then Ahna was communicating with her after her death. 260 00:13:49,587 --> 00:13:51,520 I don't have the answers. 261 00:13:51,554 --> 00:13:53,384 I don't understand it in detail. 262 00:13:56,594 --> 00:14:00,494 And then what happened next amazed me. 263 00:14:00,529 --> 00:14:04,050 Around six or seven, she began crafting notes 264 00:14:04,084 --> 00:14:07,467 to her grandmother who had died, and to Hop, her rabbit who 265 00:14:07,501 --> 00:14:08,882 had died. 266 00:14:08,917 --> 00:14:13,507 Ahna described to me the process of writing notes before bedtime 267 00:14:13,542 --> 00:14:17,408 and setting them on her windowsill. 268 00:14:17,442 --> 00:14:18,996 One day, she revealed to me that she 269 00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:24,656 had been receiving responses and really taking them to heart. 270 00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:33,148 Ahna's conversations were simple one-liner bits of information, 271 00:14:33,182 --> 00:14:36,634 like, I hope you're doing well. 272 00:14:36,668 --> 00:14:37,359 I miss you. 273 00:14:40,741 --> 00:14:43,744 The answers that she got back were, I'm well, 274 00:14:43,779 --> 00:14:45,091 or, all is well. 275 00:14:45,125 --> 00:14:46,368 You have nothing to worry about. 276 00:14:49,819 --> 00:14:53,616 It was comforting for me, because Ahna was finding 277 00:14:53,651 --> 00:14:59,933 comfort in communicating with her grandmother and her bunny. 278 00:14:59,968 --> 00:15:03,316 I would describe myself as curious at the time 279 00:15:03,350 --> 00:15:09,839 but not wed to the idea that this was a reality. 280 00:15:09,874 --> 00:15:15,052 It struck me that Ahna could be a child with just a very strong 281 00:15:15,086 --> 00:15:17,261 imagination. 282 00:15:17,295 --> 00:15:22,922 Because this is a topic that is often not discussed. 283 00:15:22,956 --> 00:15:28,928 We don't tell our friends and family this story. 284 00:15:28,962 --> 00:15:32,172 But then Ahna started talking about having these visions 285 00:15:32,207 --> 00:15:34,623 of an ancient world. 286 00:15:34,657 --> 00:15:36,659 We really weren't prepared for what she said next. 287 00:15:47,049 --> 00:15:49,086 Our daughter had an experience of life and death 288 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,294 that most of us don't have. 289 00:15:53,607 --> 00:15:54,988 And she talked about communicating 290 00:15:55,023 --> 00:15:56,127 with those who had passed on. 291 00:16:03,928 --> 00:16:06,206 Something was happening that I couldn't explain. 292 00:16:06,241 --> 00:16:08,381 It was very real. 293 00:16:08,415 --> 00:16:10,383 And then she told us something else-- 294 00:16:10,417 --> 00:16:11,729 something I wasn't prepared for. 295 00:16:15,871 --> 00:16:17,700 When Ahna was around nine, Ahna started 296 00:16:17,735 --> 00:16:21,118 talking about having these visions of an ancient world 297 00:16:21,152 --> 00:16:23,637 and her life there. 298 00:16:23,672 --> 00:16:27,469 The way she talked about it was as if she was actually 299 00:16:27,503 --> 00:16:31,300 walking around the place where she used to live. 300 00:16:31,335 --> 00:16:33,647 She described caves. 301 00:16:33,682 --> 00:16:38,411 She described a desert-like environment, simple homes, 302 00:16:38,445 --> 00:16:40,861 life events, times of transition living 303 00:16:40,896 --> 00:16:42,898 in caves with community members. 304 00:16:42,932 --> 00:16:45,280 Her description led me to believe that this 305 00:16:45,314 --> 00:16:47,627 was an ancient civilization. 306 00:16:47,661 --> 00:16:52,045 She was being very descriptive, from the perspective of someone 307 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,703 who lives there, not from the perspective of someone 308 00:16:54,737 --> 00:16:57,499 who imagined it or wrote a book about it. 309 00:16:57,533 --> 00:17:02,124 It was as if she could see herself doing the daily tasks 310 00:17:02,159 --> 00:17:05,024 that her life there involved. 311 00:17:05,058 --> 00:17:08,337 It wasn't so much the words that Ahna was using. 312 00:17:08,372 --> 00:17:12,341 It was more of the way she was saying it. 313 00:17:12,376 --> 00:17:16,311 The more she spoke, the more I realized she was merely 314 00:17:16,345 --> 00:17:19,935 reporting what she had seen, and that there 315 00:17:19,969 --> 00:17:26,942 was a whole set of experiences and emotions that came with it. 316 00:17:26,976 --> 00:17:29,876 How could a little girl have all this information 317 00:17:29,910 --> 00:17:33,811 about this ancient civilization? 318 00:17:33,845 --> 00:17:36,676 Ahna's been reluctant to talk about this experience 319 00:17:36,710 --> 00:17:39,127 with a lot of other people. 320 00:17:39,161 --> 00:17:42,992 It's not something that kids normally talk about at school. 321 00:17:43,027 --> 00:17:44,546 It can be a little lonely when you're 322 00:17:44,580 --> 00:17:49,792 the only one in your circle who has this type of experience. 323 00:17:49,827 --> 00:17:52,726 One day, Ahna told me about a traumatic event 324 00:17:52,761 --> 00:17:55,384 that happened involving an earthquake in her village. 325 00:17:58,491 --> 00:18:00,976 Ahna told me that the earthquake was such 326 00:18:01,010 --> 00:18:07,707 that parts of the ground started to open, and stands fell in, 327 00:18:07,741 --> 00:18:12,953 and roofs started collapsing, and much of the townspeople 328 00:18:12,988 --> 00:18:15,335 fled. 329 00:18:15,370 --> 00:18:19,028 And she described it very specific, 330 00:18:19,063 --> 00:18:20,789 as if she were witnessing it all over again. 331 00:18:23,378 --> 00:18:24,103 I was amazed. 332 00:18:28,107 --> 00:18:31,006 Ahna has drawn several of her memories. 333 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,008 One of the first things that she drew 334 00:18:33,042 --> 00:18:37,599 was islands where she used to live. 335 00:18:37,633 --> 00:18:40,153 It was as if she drew a map that she once 336 00:18:40,188 --> 00:18:42,949 saw when she was there. 337 00:18:42,983 --> 00:18:47,160 Ahna starts recalling spontaneously. 338 00:18:47,195 --> 00:18:50,025 The other morning, she woke up and said, 339 00:18:50,059 --> 00:18:52,269 I just remembered the entire language. 340 00:18:52,303 --> 00:18:53,994 And she said, I don't know how. 341 00:18:54,029 --> 00:18:55,513 I don't know what's going on. 342 00:18:55,548 --> 00:18:58,896 But I need a piece of paper and a pen. 343 00:18:58,930 --> 00:19:01,657 She drew them on a three-by-five card for me 344 00:19:01,692 --> 00:19:07,836 and began to put English words next to some of them. 345 00:19:07,870 --> 00:19:12,185 It looked like ancient writings. 346 00:19:12,220 --> 00:19:14,153 This whole thing is blowing me away. 347 00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:20,262 When we started to find information that matched what 348 00:19:20,297 --> 00:19:24,439 she told us, we were amazed. 349 00:19:24,473 --> 00:19:27,062 We were online one day. 350 00:19:27,096 --> 00:19:28,788 On the screen was that scientists 351 00:19:28,822 --> 00:19:34,207 had found this ancient civilization named Heracleion. 352 00:19:34,242 --> 00:19:38,556 It was a digital recreation of what they think Heracleion 353 00:19:38,591 --> 00:19:39,281 resembled. 354 00:19:42,042 --> 00:19:44,183 Heracleion was an ancient civilization 355 00:19:44,217 --> 00:19:48,532 that had been discovered under water in the year 2000. 356 00:19:48,566 --> 00:19:52,536 Its beginning goes back to about 12th century BC. 357 00:19:52,570 --> 00:19:54,814 Researchers had said that it was a port city 358 00:19:54,848 --> 00:19:58,611 and that a big earthquake led to it being underwater. 359 00:19:58,645 --> 00:20:00,992 So the experience that Ahna describes 360 00:20:01,027 --> 00:20:06,066 of a series of earthquakes is very much like Heracleion. 361 00:20:06,101 --> 00:20:10,485 And Heracleion was on an odd-shaped island. 362 00:20:10,519 --> 00:20:12,970 When Ahna and I saw that, I thought, 363 00:20:13,004 --> 00:20:15,869 that's exactly what you drew. 364 00:20:15,904 --> 00:20:19,045 I started to wonder, is she remembering a past life? 365 00:20:29,952 --> 00:20:34,440 My son's interest in the Civil War and weapons was growing. 366 00:20:34,474 --> 00:20:36,890 And we really started to notice Nick's infatuation 367 00:20:36,925 --> 00:20:40,342 with the Civil War when he took a photo dressed as a soldier. 368 00:20:48,316 --> 00:20:53,148 The whole thing was incredibly distressing. 369 00:20:53,182 --> 00:20:56,013 When Nick was 13, he came down on a school morning, 370 00:20:56,047 --> 00:20:59,637 and there was something very visibly different in Nick. 371 00:20:59,672 --> 00:21:03,123 His demeanor was much more serious. 372 00:21:03,158 --> 00:21:06,610 It felt like he had a very heavy heart. 373 00:21:06,644 --> 00:21:08,370 And he shared with me an intense dream 374 00:21:08,405 --> 00:21:10,441 he had had the night before. 375 00:21:10,476 --> 00:21:13,824 And in this dream, he said he was dressed in all grey, 376 00:21:13,858 --> 00:21:17,310 like a soldier, and he was in some type of encampment. 377 00:21:17,345 --> 00:21:20,175 And he was sent on some secret mission. 378 00:21:20,209 --> 00:21:22,867 And he shared the feelings that were so intense-- 379 00:21:22,902 --> 00:21:24,731 the feelings of fear of being caught. 380 00:21:24,766 --> 00:21:27,769 Is he going to be killed? 381 00:21:27,803 --> 00:21:32,567 He remembered the scent of horse sweat and campfire. 382 00:21:32,601 --> 00:21:37,088 And he knew he was going to a town called Baltimore, Indiana. 383 00:21:37,123 --> 00:21:39,539 As he was describing it, I was actually 384 00:21:39,574 --> 00:21:44,544 watching this film in my head of my son in fear of his life. 385 00:21:44,579 --> 00:21:46,374 Those feelings were very real. 386 00:21:46,408 --> 00:21:51,033 And they were still real as he was describing the dream to me. 387 00:21:51,068 --> 00:21:52,656 So it triggered something. 388 00:21:52,690 --> 00:21:55,244 And I knew it was more than a dream at that point. 389 00:21:55,279 --> 00:21:58,489 It was almost as if he had lived it, as if he had actually 390 00:21:58,524 --> 00:21:59,490 experienced that. 391 00:22:01,768 --> 00:22:03,736 You know, I thought, maybe I should look and see 392 00:22:03,770 --> 00:22:07,395 if there actually is a Baltimore, Indiana. 393 00:22:07,429 --> 00:22:09,638 So I typed in Baltimore, Indiana. 394 00:22:09,673 --> 00:22:11,468 And there it is. 395 00:22:11,502 --> 00:22:13,539 Oh, my, was I shocked. 396 00:22:13,573 --> 00:22:18,406 There actually was a Baltimore, Indiana during the Civil War. 397 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,891 I had goosebumps. 398 00:22:20,925 --> 00:22:24,826 I could never imagine that one dream could have changed Nick's 399 00:22:24,860 --> 00:22:27,932 life forever. 400 00:22:27,967 --> 00:22:30,935 So after this dream, it triggered something in Nick. 401 00:22:30,970 --> 00:22:32,558 The floodgates started opening. 402 00:22:32,592 --> 00:22:35,077 And Nick started sharing more and more details 403 00:22:35,112 --> 00:22:38,495 about this life as a Civil War soldier that 404 00:22:38,529 --> 00:22:42,084 were disturbing and fascinating at the same time. 405 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,536 And he came up with a lot of facts. 406 00:22:45,571 --> 00:22:49,506 He knew that he was in the 15th Tennessee Infantry. 407 00:22:49,540 --> 00:22:51,680 He also came up with the name Jonathan Walters. 408 00:22:55,201 --> 00:22:58,963 He really felt that he had lived this life as a Civil War 409 00:22:58,998 --> 00:23:01,310 soldier. 410 00:23:01,345 --> 00:23:03,382 One of the details that Nick shared with me 411 00:23:03,416 --> 00:23:07,627 is that he had seen his actual death scene. 412 00:23:07,662 --> 00:23:12,770 He remembered looking back and checking on a fellow soldier, 413 00:23:12,805 --> 00:23:14,979 and then being shot. 414 00:23:15,014 --> 00:23:18,466 And he knew they'd been shot in the neck, 415 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:20,916 right under their jaw. 416 00:23:20,951 --> 00:23:25,921 And oddly enough, Nick had a birthmark right under his jaw 417 00:23:25,956 --> 00:23:28,199 that was a very unusual birthmark. 418 00:23:28,234 --> 00:23:32,238 It was very scattered, as if it had been a bullet wound. 419 00:23:32,272 --> 00:23:36,449 Nick said, Mom, I know I had died. 420 00:23:36,484 --> 00:23:39,832 And he shared that, when he was shot, he looked up at the sky 421 00:23:39,866 --> 00:23:41,834 as he was falling backwards. 422 00:23:41,868 --> 00:23:44,561 And he said his last thought was, I'll never see home. 423 00:23:50,429 --> 00:23:56,124 As Nick's mom, it's so upsetting to hear your son describe 424 00:23:56,158 --> 00:23:58,678 his death. 425 00:23:58,713 --> 00:24:02,406 And as a mom, I wanted to reach out and wrap my arms 426 00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:04,684 around him. 427 00:24:04,719 --> 00:24:08,481 But all you can do is tell him it'll be OK. 428 00:24:21,770 --> 00:24:24,946 My son had vivid memories of being a Civil War soldier named 429 00:24:24,980 --> 00:24:26,223 Jonathan Walter. 430 00:24:26,257 --> 00:24:27,880 And he saw his death. 431 00:24:35,888 --> 00:24:41,514 As Nick's mom, it's so upsetting to hear your son describe 432 00:24:41,549 --> 00:24:43,482 his death. 433 00:24:43,516 --> 00:24:47,865 But all you can do is tell him it'll be OK. 434 00:24:53,457 --> 00:24:56,046 I don't have a strong belief or disbelief in past lives. 435 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,082 I just basically went along and just-- 436 00:24:58,117 --> 00:25:01,292 OK, let's investigate some more. 437 00:25:01,327 --> 00:25:04,019 I felt that Nick had such a strong connection 438 00:25:04,054 --> 00:25:08,472 with this soldier that it was our responsibility to find out 439 00:25:08,507 --> 00:25:14,064 about his life and see how it connected to Nick today. 440 00:25:14,098 --> 00:25:17,101 We felt that we absolutely had to support this research 441 00:25:17,136 --> 00:25:21,381 and support him in finding out who Jonathan Walter was 442 00:25:21,416 --> 00:25:23,487 for his own self-esteem. 443 00:25:23,522 --> 00:25:25,558 Because Nick was so focused on this. 444 00:25:25,593 --> 00:25:28,354 And it took his mind off of other things 445 00:25:28,388 --> 00:25:31,564 in his life that weren't as positive. 446 00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:37,812 Nick felt that he had died in an area called Spring Hill. 447 00:25:37,846 --> 00:25:42,161 There actually had been a battle in Spring Hill, Tennessee. 448 00:25:42,195 --> 00:25:44,543 Spring Hill, Tennessee, if you look in the history books, 449 00:25:44,577 --> 00:25:46,061 it's never mentioned. 450 00:25:46,096 --> 00:25:49,271 But yet Nick knew there had been a battle in Spring Hill, 451 00:25:49,306 --> 00:25:51,653 Tennessee. 452 00:25:51,688 --> 00:25:53,724 The research for us was really challenging. 453 00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:57,210 Because many of the records in the South for such a 454 00:25:57,245 --> 00:26:00,179 small battle were lost. 455 00:26:00,213 --> 00:26:02,768 Nick felt that he wasn't a private. 456 00:26:02,802 --> 00:26:04,942 He felt like he had some authority. 457 00:26:04,977 --> 00:26:06,081 But he wasn't high up. 458 00:26:06,116 --> 00:26:08,912 He felt maybe possibly a sergeant. 459 00:26:08,946 --> 00:26:12,018 To research that online is really difficult to do. 460 00:26:12,053 --> 00:26:13,779 And so I knew, at that point, if we wanted 461 00:26:13,813 --> 00:26:17,541 to further our research and take this to the next level, 462 00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:20,095 we'd actually have to visit some libraries in Tennessee 463 00:26:20,130 --> 00:26:22,511 where they held the rosters. 464 00:26:22,546 --> 00:26:25,100 One summer, when Nick was 13, we decided 465 00:26:25,135 --> 00:26:28,759 to take a tour of Jackson, Tennessee, 466 00:26:28,794 --> 00:26:31,106 because they had a library there that held the roster 467 00:26:31,141 --> 00:26:33,661 of the 15th Tennessee Infantry. 468 00:26:33,695 --> 00:26:36,042 Nick and I were in the library for several hours looking 469 00:26:36,077 --> 00:26:37,526 through the rosters. 470 00:26:37,561 --> 00:26:41,289 Unfortunately, we did not see any Jonathan Walter. 471 00:26:41,323 --> 00:26:42,877 We were really devastated. 472 00:26:42,911 --> 00:26:44,464 It was like a blow to the gut. 473 00:26:44,499 --> 00:26:47,053 And we were about ready to give up and go back to our hotel 474 00:26:47,088 --> 00:26:48,468 room. 475 00:26:48,503 --> 00:26:52,472 And then Nick just popped out of his mouth, look up Harper. 476 00:26:52,507 --> 00:26:55,199 I think his last name is Harper. 477 00:26:55,234 --> 00:26:58,651 And I knew then that Nick had tuned in or tapped 478 00:26:58,686 --> 00:27:00,204 into something. 479 00:27:00,239 --> 00:27:08,834 And on the very next page was JW Harper, sergeant, the only JW 480 00:27:08,868 --> 00:27:12,389 Harper listed in the 15th Tennessee Infantry. 481 00:27:12,423 --> 00:27:14,529 And oh, my gosh, this is real. 482 00:27:14,563 --> 00:27:15,910 This is real. 483 00:27:15,944 --> 00:27:18,395 I wasn't involved as much as Deb was. 484 00:27:18,429 --> 00:27:19,879 But usually, in the evenings, they'd 485 00:27:19,914 --> 00:27:21,709 tell me their stories or adventures. 486 00:27:21,743 --> 00:27:24,332 Honestly, I didn't know what to think about what they had found 487 00:27:24,366 --> 00:27:25,747 out that day. 488 00:27:25,782 --> 00:27:27,784 It was right there in Jackson, Tennessee, 489 00:27:27,818 --> 00:27:31,097 that I knew my son Nick, a 13-year-old boy, 490 00:27:31,132 --> 00:27:33,997 had lived a life of Jonathan Walter Harper, 491 00:27:34,031 --> 00:27:36,275 the Civil War soldier. 492 00:27:36,309 --> 00:27:37,207 And it was real. 493 00:27:37,241 --> 00:27:38,070 It was right there in front of me. 494 00:27:38,104 --> 00:27:38,795 It hit me. 495 00:27:43,972 --> 00:27:46,803 The following summer, we decide to visit Spring Hill, 496 00:27:46,837 --> 00:27:51,704 Tennessee, in particular, since Nick felt that he had passed 497 00:27:51,739 --> 00:27:54,327 away in that battle. 498 00:27:54,362 --> 00:27:58,607 I felt we needed to go as a family to help support Nick, 499 00:27:58,642 --> 00:28:03,371 but also for more validation for Nick, and also for my husband. 500 00:28:03,405 --> 00:28:06,408 And Nick said, pull over, Dad. 501 00:28:06,443 --> 00:28:08,617 We stopped at the actual battlefield, 502 00:28:08,652 --> 00:28:09,688 which is fairly small. 503 00:28:12,656 --> 00:28:15,797 And Nick got out of the car and just shout out like a cannon 504 00:28:15,832 --> 00:28:18,282 and ran through this battlefield. 505 00:28:18,317 --> 00:28:19,180 And he takes off. 506 00:28:19,214 --> 00:28:22,045 He just runs. 507 00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:24,426 And I didn't know where he was going. 508 00:28:24,461 --> 00:28:25,669 And I kept calling for him. 509 00:28:25,704 --> 00:28:26,566 He just took off. 510 00:28:26,601 --> 00:28:27,360 I'll be fine! 511 00:28:27,395 --> 00:28:28,948 I'll be right back! 512 00:28:28,983 --> 00:28:31,744 Then he was gone. 513 00:28:31,779 --> 00:28:34,229 I didn't know where he was. 514 00:28:34,264 --> 00:28:35,783 And we were concerned. 515 00:28:35,817 --> 00:28:38,302 We didn't want our son running through this town we were not 516 00:28:38,337 --> 00:28:40,028 familiar with. 517 00:28:40,063 --> 00:28:41,547 I was having a small panic attack. 518 00:28:41,581 --> 00:28:44,101 Because, you know, we're in another state, and he's gone. 519 00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:51,522 We were just waiting and waiting. 520 00:28:51,557 --> 00:28:53,007 And all of a sudden, he comes out 521 00:28:53,041 --> 00:28:56,113 from the completely different side of the corn field. 522 00:28:56,148 --> 00:28:58,322 And I said, where were you? 523 00:28:58,357 --> 00:29:00,462 And he's like, it looked like I'd been here before, 524 00:29:00,497 --> 00:29:03,017 and I had to go check it out. 525 00:29:03,051 --> 00:29:05,847 Nick was in another place. 526 00:29:05,882 --> 00:29:07,469 That's the only way I can describe it. 527 00:29:07,504 --> 00:29:08,954 He was in a zone. 528 00:29:08,988 --> 00:29:10,024 His eyes were glassy. 529 00:29:10,058 --> 00:29:12,992 He was spacey. 530 00:29:13,027 --> 00:29:14,407 I kept asking him, are you OK? 531 00:29:14,442 --> 00:29:16,478 Did you find anything? 532 00:29:16,513 --> 00:29:18,170 He was very quiet-- 533 00:29:18,204 --> 00:29:19,758 very quiet. 534 00:29:19,792 --> 00:29:21,138 And he said, this is it, Mom. 535 00:29:21,173 --> 00:29:23,934 This is the place. 536 00:29:23,969 --> 00:29:25,798 It was very strange for me seeing 537 00:29:25,833 --> 00:29:27,766 Nick so quiet and serious. 538 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,390 Because he had been so animated and happy and excited 539 00:29:31,424 --> 00:29:32,840 in the car. 540 00:29:32,874 --> 00:29:38,052 I knew something had happened to Nick on that battlefield. 541 00:29:38,086 --> 00:29:39,847 So after we left the Battle of Spring Hill, 542 00:29:39,881 --> 00:29:43,298 we were on our way, and we saw a little white chapel. 543 00:29:43,333 --> 00:29:44,817 And Nick said, pull over, Dad. 544 00:29:44,852 --> 00:29:46,750 I need to get out. 545 00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:50,202 Behind the church, there was a small cemetery. 546 00:29:50,236 --> 00:29:53,308 And I gave Nick his space. 547 00:29:53,343 --> 00:29:55,345 By certain gravestones, he would just 548 00:29:55,379 --> 00:30:00,074 get very, like, melancholy, almost like he was sad. 549 00:30:00,108 --> 00:30:01,696 And it was a little bit strange. 550 00:30:01,730 --> 00:30:03,663 He said, hey, I don't feel really good. 551 00:30:03,698 --> 00:30:05,355 My legs feel kind of weak. 552 00:30:05,389 --> 00:30:10,498 Nick turned and looked at me said, Mom, I know people here. 553 00:30:10,532 --> 00:30:12,017 And he said, my legs feel like jelly. 554 00:30:12,051 --> 00:30:14,295 I don't think I can walk. 555 00:30:14,329 --> 00:30:16,366 So we helped him back to the car. 556 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,783 We had to actually physically help Nick. 557 00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:20,991 He was shaking. 558 00:30:21,026 --> 00:30:23,131 His face was white. 559 00:30:23,166 --> 00:30:24,719 I didn't know what was going with him. 560 00:30:24,753 --> 00:30:26,721 But something definitely had happened there 561 00:30:26,755 --> 00:30:29,448 in that cemetery. 562 00:30:29,482 --> 00:30:33,624 It was unnerving to me to see Nick so visibly and physically 563 00:30:33,659 --> 00:30:34,556 shaken. 564 00:30:34,591 --> 00:30:35,730 I mean, he was literally shaking. 565 00:30:38,906 --> 00:30:40,873 Him being in the cemetery, and then he 566 00:30:40,908 --> 00:30:44,014 didn't feel very well, that whole trip was sort of when 567 00:30:44,049 --> 00:30:47,293 things started to link together for me. 568 00:30:47,328 --> 00:30:50,745 And so I was like, OK, I can't discount it, because there's 569 00:30:50,779 --> 00:30:52,643 definitely something going on. 570 00:30:52,678 --> 00:30:55,232 This trip was extremely beneficial to Nick, 571 00:30:55,267 --> 00:30:59,719 because it cemented that the visions he had of his death, 572 00:30:59,754 --> 00:31:03,585 and the location, and seeing tombstones, and telling me 573 00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:06,485 that he knew people there validated that Nick had 574 00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:09,522 a life in Tennessee. 575 00:31:09,557 --> 00:31:10,661 It was real. 576 00:31:10,696 --> 00:31:13,837 I mean, he experienced it again on this trip. 577 00:31:13,872 --> 00:31:16,564 But now it's time for Nick to disconnect from John Walter 578 00:31:16,598 --> 00:31:19,498 Harper and to move on with his life. 579 00:31:19,532 --> 00:31:21,603 I'm really not sure what is going to happen next. 580 00:31:28,403 --> 00:31:30,474 Her description of life events, 581 00:31:30,509 --> 00:31:33,063 the primitive structure of the homes, 582 00:31:33,098 --> 00:31:35,307 the original land she lived in being devastated 583 00:31:35,341 --> 00:31:38,172 by an earthquake and flood, times of transition, 584 00:31:38,206 --> 00:31:41,485 living in caves with community members 585 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,627 all led me to believe that this was an ancient civilization. 586 00:31:53,152 --> 00:31:57,122 I realized that this is not something coming from the media 587 00:31:57,156 --> 00:31:59,538 or her imagination. 588 00:31:59,572 --> 00:32:03,369 This was a remembrance. 589 00:32:03,404 --> 00:32:09,824 It was confirmation that past lives exist. 590 00:32:09,858 --> 00:32:11,343 My name is Ahna. 591 00:32:11,377 --> 00:32:12,137 I'm 11. 592 00:32:12,171 --> 00:32:15,209 And I'm in sixth grade. 593 00:32:15,243 --> 00:32:16,693 When I was younger, I had memories 594 00:32:16,727 --> 00:32:21,594 of living in an ancient town, or I would have vivid memories 595 00:32:21,629 --> 00:32:24,183 of doing daily activities. 596 00:32:24,218 --> 00:32:27,324 I remember that there was an earthquake. 597 00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:33,020 I feel like Heracleion is connected to my past life. 598 00:32:33,054 --> 00:32:36,230 It was pretty cool to find that something that they've 599 00:32:36,264 --> 00:32:41,718 found now connects to something from back then. 600 00:32:41,752 --> 00:32:44,859 I feel very convinced that her experiences are 601 00:32:44,893 --> 00:32:50,209 real to her, something beyond a child's imagination. 602 00:32:50,244 --> 00:32:53,385 I can't imagine being nine years old 603 00:32:53,419 --> 00:32:58,217 and having this entire other life come 604 00:32:58,252 --> 00:33:02,290 into your consciousness. 605 00:33:02,325 --> 00:33:04,534 I do feel like my parents believe me 606 00:33:04,568 --> 00:33:06,846 and that I had a past life. 607 00:33:06,881 --> 00:33:09,918 I don't really feel comfortable talking to my friends 608 00:33:09,953 --> 00:33:14,751 about this, because they may not understand. 609 00:33:14,785 --> 00:33:17,374 For Ahna, knowing that there are kids out there who 610 00:33:17,409 --> 00:33:19,790 have similar kinds of experiences 611 00:33:19,825 --> 00:33:22,172 can feel very grounding. 612 00:33:22,207 --> 00:33:24,554 It would be pretty exciting to meet someone 613 00:33:24,588 --> 00:33:26,521 who has had a past life memory. 614 00:33:29,352 --> 00:33:31,388 Our family has made arrangements 615 00:33:31,423 --> 00:33:35,634 to travel to Nevada to meet with other families who 616 00:33:35,668 --> 00:33:37,739 have had similar experiences. 617 00:33:42,054 --> 00:33:46,231 Right now, we're headed to a group called Earth Angels. 618 00:33:46,265 --> 00:33:50,338 And it's a gathering for families 619 00:33:50,373 --> 00:33:54,204 who have children who've had similar experiences to Ahna. 620 00:33:54,239 --> 00:33:59,244 I have never met someone who has had a similar experience 621 00:33:59,278 --> 00:34:02,074 to me. 622 00:34:02,109 --> 00:34:05,388 It'd be kind of cool to know that there's someone out there 623 00:34:05,422 --> 00:34:07,942 that's kind of like me, in a way. 624 00:34:10,738 --> 00:34:12,188 We just arrived at the house. 625 00:34:12,222 --> 00:34:14,604 I'm really excited to see who's going to be here 626 00:34:14,638 --> 00:34:18,021 and how it's going to go for Ahna. 627 00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:18,815 Hey. 628 00:34:18,849 --> 00:34:19,574 Hi. 629 00:34:19,609 --> 00:34:20,403 I'm Erin. 630 00:34:20,437 --> 00:34:21,714 Hi, I'm Jillian. 631 00:34:21,749 --> 00:34:23,889 From the moment Ahna walked in, kids were greeting her 632 00:34:23,923 --> 00:34:25,442 with smiles and curiosity. 633 00:34:25,477 --> 00:34:26,685 Can you guys say hi to Ahna? 634 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,515 Hi, Ahna! 635 00:34:29,550 --> 00:34:31,828 We just felt very welcomed and very connected. 636 00:34:31,862 --> 00:34:33,140 Hi, my name's Jared. 637 00:34:33,174 --> 00:34:34,520 Jared, nice to meet you. 638 00:34:34,555 --> 00:34:35,556 I'm Jillian. 639 00:34:35,590 --> 00:34:39,111 Thank you for welcoming us. 640 00:34:39,146 --> 00:34:40,354 Welcome, everyone. 641 00:34:40,388 --> 00:34:42,735 This is Earth Angels Sanctuary and Learning Center. 642 00:34:42,770 --> 00:34:46,532 As soon as I walked in, it felt like, oh, a community. 643 00:34:46,567 --> 00:34:49,639 You know, we're all in this together, 644 00:34:49,673 --> 00:34:53,505 rather than carrying this by ourselves. 645 00:34:53,539 --> 00:34:56,197 It's as much of a support group for us 646 00:34:56,232 --> 00:34:57,923 as it is for the kids just to have-- 647 00:34:57,957 --> 00:34:58,751 Sure 648 00:34:58,786 --> 00:35:00,132 To be able to be themselves. 649 00:35:00,167 --> 00:35:04,826 That's how it started, was she just wanted to invite, like, 650 00:35:04,861 --> 00:35:08,175 kids and their families to have a place to go, and to talk, 651 00:35:08,209 --> 00:35:11,005 and to realize that they're not the only ones. 652 00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:13,145 I felt a giddy kind of excitement-- 653 00:35:13,180 --> 00:35:13,973 Yeah 654 00:35:14,008 --> 00:35:16,286 in hearing from-- 655 00:35:16,321 --> 00:35:18,392 hearing about other people's stories-- 656 00:35:18,426 --> 00:35:19,600 their kids' stories. 657 00:35:19,634 --> 00:35:21,188 There's only a few friends that I 658 00:35:21,222 --> 00:35:26,124 have felt comfortable enough to tell them. 659 00:35:26,158 --> 00:35:28,988 So today, we're going to paint whatever you decide that you 660 00:35:29,023 --> 00:35:30,335 want to paint. 661 00:35:30,369 --> 00:35:34,304 It was just great to be in the company of other people 662 00:35:34,339 --> 00:35:38,412 that have gone through kind of different experiences. 663 00:35:47,248 --> 00:35:52,322 I hope that she takes away validation for her experience 664 00:35:52,357 --> 00:35:55,360 and a sense of community and camaraderie. 665 00:35:58,708 --> 00:36:01,918 There are a lot of nice people. 666 00:36:01,952 --> 00:36:04,852 I got to do art. 667 00:36:04,886 --> 00:36:10,927 This experience is, I think, life-changing for Ahna, 668 00:36:10,961 --> 00:36:12,825 and for us. 669 00:36:12,860 --> 00:36:13,585 It was really fun. 670 00:36:21,731 --> 00:36:25,424 After we validated his name, the towns, the locations, 671 00:36:25,459 --> 00:36:28,186 the battles, Nick's self-confidence soared. 672 00:36:35,814 --> 00:36:38,713 This trip was extremely beneficial to Nick. 673 00:36:38,748 --> 00:36:41,613 And for me as a mom, it was wonderful. 674 00:36:41,647 --> 00:36:44,271 And I felt so blessed that we had actually 675 00:36:44,305 --> 00:36:45,720 had this experience. 676 00:36:45,755 --> 00:36:46,790 My name's Nick. 677 00:36:46,825 --> 00:36:50,104 And I'm a sophomore at Ohio University. 678 00:36:50,138 --> 00:36:52,071 The first time I went to Spring Hill, you know, 679 00:36:52,106 --> 00:36:53,452 I was very young. 680 00:36:53,487 --> 00:36:56,938 And I really wasn't prepared for what I was about to experience. 681 00:36:56,973 --> 00:36:59,941 But I would like to go back there, especially now. 682 00:36:59,976 --> 00:37:04,739 Because right now, I'm the age that JW Harper would have been 683 00:37:04,774 --> 00:37:06,189 while he was fighting. 684 00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:08,295 It's very possible that JW Harper 685 00:37:08,329 --> 00:37:12,575 could have died very close to here, or even on this property. 686 00:37:12,609 --> 00:37:13,783 I don't know. 687 00:37:13,817 --> 00:37:15,336 But I'm really anxious to find out. 688 00:37:27,866 --> 00:37:30,593 When JW Harper died, he was very young. 689 00:37:30,627 --> 00:37:33,251 And he had this whole life ahead of him. 690 00:37:33,285 --> 00:37:36,288 But now, in this lifetime, it's my turn 691 00:37:36,323 --> 00:37:38,532 to live the life that he never got the chance to. 692 00:37:46,678 --> 00:37:49,059 I feel it's time for me to separate 693 00:37:49,094 --> 00:37:50,820 the past from the present. 694 00:37:50,854 --> 00:37:52,270 And I would really like the chance 695 00:37:52,304 --> 00:37:59,829 to say a final goodbye to this lifetime, this experience. 696 00:37:59,863 --> 00:38:03,004 The last time I was here at the Spring Hill battlefield 697 00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:05,075 was six years ago. 698 00:38:05,110 --> 00:38:08,527 When I was here, I kind of flipped out a little bit. 699 00:38:08,562 --> 00:38:11,116 I took off running. 700 00:38:11,150 --> 00:38:12,013 I kind of blacked out. 701 00:38:12,048 --> 00:38:14,188 I don't really remember anything. 702 00:38:14,222 --> 00:38:18,226 I feel like I have some sense of unfinished business here. 703 00:38:18,261 --> 00:38:20,539 Before I came here, I sort of reopened 704 00:38:20,574 --> 00:38:24,578 this area of my past life and continued doing research. 705 00:38:24,612 --> 00:38:29,272 What I found out was that the 15th Tennessee Infantry, 706 00:38:29,307 --> 00:38:32,344 at one point in the battle, passed through the property 707 00:38:32,379 --> 00:38:35,071 of Rippavilla Plantation and actually, at one point, 708 00:38:35,105 --> 00:38:37,970 fought on this property. 709 00:38:38,005 --> 00:38:40,283 I really felt that I needed to be here 710 00:38:40,318 --> 00:38:43,700 and I needed to see this place for myself 711 00:38:43,735 --> 00:38:46,289 and just get some sort of closure. 712 00:38:46,324 --> 00:38:47,635 Nice to meet you. - Chuck Byrn. 713 00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:48,567 Nice to meet you. 714 00:38:48,602 --> 00:38:49,913 What can I do for you today? 715 00:38:49,948 --> 00:38:51,639 Well, I'd like to know a little bit more 716 00:38:51,674 --> 00:38:55,436 about the battle and find out about the 15th Tennessee 717 00:38:55,471 --> 00:38:56,437 Infantry. 718 00:38:56,472 --> 00:38:57,852 What was left of the 15th Tennessee 719 00:38:57,887 --> 00:39:01,546 had been pretty much decimated by the time they got to Spring 720 00:39:01,580 --> 00:39:04,342 Hill in 1864. 721 00:39:04,376 --> 00:39:06,205 I think wherever I had died, 722 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:08,725 it was definitely near a farm or a plantation of some sort. 723 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,521 Because one thing I remember is coming out of the tree line 724 00:39:11,556 --> 00:39:16,388 and seeing an overturned red wagon about 10 yards diagonal 725 00:39:16,423 --> 00:39:17,631 to me. 726 00:39:17,665 --> 00:39:19,840 And I'm thinking, I need to take cover behind there. 727 00:39:19,874 --> 00:39:23,430 Because in my dream, I could hear the bullets whizzing by. 728 00:39:23,464 --> 00:39:25,639 So my first instinct was to go behind that wagon. 729 00:39:25,673 --> 00:39:27,123 And then that's why I turned around 730 00:39:27,157 --> 00:39:29,781 to check if my friend was OK, because the shell went off. 731 00:39:29,815 --> 00:39:30,609 And it stops. 732 00:39:30,644 --> 00:39:31,541 And I turn around. 733 00:39:31,576 --> 00:39:33,819 It's right when I turn around. 734 00:39:33,854 --> 00:39:35,027 You wake up. 735 00:39:35,062 --> 00:39:36,235 Lights out, yeah. 736 00:39:36,270 --> 00:39:40,239 Well, you are actually standing, right over here, 737 00:39:40,274 --> 00:39:43,311 on what is the last action of the Battle of Spring 738 00:39:43,346 --> 00:39:44,899 Hill on November the 30th. 739 00:39:44,934 --> 00:39:45,900 I'll tell you what. 740 00:39:45,935 --> 00:39:47,419 We'll walk up towards the battlefield 741 00:39:47,454 --> 00:39:49,214 and I'll point some more stuff out for you. 742 00:39:49,248 --> 00:39:50,491 OK. Thank you. 743 00:39:50,526 --> 00:39:52,320 One of the historians here at the Rippavilla Plantation 744 00:39:52,355 --> 00:39:55,600 has been kind enough to show me around the property 745 00:39:55,634 --> 00:39:57,705 and just give me a tour of the grounds 746 00:39:57,740 --> 00:40:00,328 and answer a lot of my questions I have. 747 00:40:00,363 --> 00:40:02,607 When they would have been there, 748 00:40:02,641 --> 00:40:04,091 would that have been during the day 749 00:40:04,125 --> 00:40:06,438 or towards the evening, when it started getting dark? 750 00:40:06,473 --> 00:40:07,784 4:00. 751 00:40:07,819 --> 00:40:09,234 4:00 to 5:00. 752 00:40:09,268 --> 00:40:11,063 OK, so it still would have been light out. 753 00:40:11,098 --> 00:40:12,444 Yeah, yeah. 754 00:40:12,479 --> 00:40:15,343 OK, so do you know if, back then, there were, like, trees-- 755 00:40:15,378 --> 00:40:16,759 like, a lot of trees around here? 756 00:40:16,793 --> 00:40:20,763 The maple tree, the Magnolia tree, the beech tree. 757 00:40:20,797 --> 00:40:23,593 There were scores of trees around here at that time. 758 00:40:23,628 --> 00:40:25,699 They're still here now. 759 00:40:25,733 --> 00:40:28,287 If you see where the tractor is, down at the end of the road, 760 00:40:28,322 --> 00:40:29,461 you see the big-- 761 00:40:29,496 --> 00:40:31,463 it looks like a big giant lying across the road. 762 00:40:31,498 --> 00:40:32,878 That went down three weeks ago. 763 00:40:32,913 --> 00:40:34,328 It's a 400-year-old oak tree. 764 00:40:34,362 --> 00:40:35,122 Oh, wow. 765 00:40:35,156 --> 00:40:38,194 So yeah, it's possible. 766 00:40:38,228 --> 00:40:40,507 So that could have been the very ridge that I had seen 767 00:40:40,541 --> 00:40:41,784 in my dream. 768 00:40:41,818 --> 00:40:42,750 Very much so. 769 00:40:42,785 --> 00:40:44,649 It very well could be. 770 00:40:44,683 --> 00:40:45,719 OK. 771 00:40:45,753 --> 00:40:46,720 Well, it's funny. 772 00:40:46,754 --> 00:40:48,515 Because when we first pulled in here, 773 00:40:48,549 --> 00:40:51,241 I immediately was looking in that direction. 774 00:40:51,276 --> 00:40:54,831 You know, it's very possible that JW Harper 775 00:40:54,866 --> 00:40:59,215 could have died very close to here, or even on this property. 776 00:40:59,249 --> 00:41:00,492 I don't know. 777 00:41:00,527 --> 00:41:02,598 But I'm really anxious to find out. 778 00:41:02,632 --> 00:41:04,669 So you think, with the description 779 00:41:04,703 --> 00:41:08,086 I have from my dream and set in the daytime, 780 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,847 you think this is the most probable place where that 781 00:41:10,882 --> 00:41:12,090 occurred? 782 00:41:12,124 --> 00:41:14,230 I think probably around Bradley's Knoll or Weaver's 783 00:41:14,264 --> 00:41:15,024 Hill. 784 00:41:15,058 --> 00:41:16,370 OK. 785 00:41:16,404 --> 00:41:19,166 I was explaining to Chuck about what I saw in my dreams. 786 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,515 And he was pretty much able to recognize what I saw 787 00:41:23,550 --> 00:41:26,898 and put me in the right direction to where it was. 788 00:41:26,932 --> 00:41:28,624 And it's, like, right here. 789 00:41:35,596 --> 00:41:37,943 It felt really good just to have that confirmation. 790 00:41:37,978 --> 00:41:39,842 Because, I mean, as soon as we pulled in here, 791 00:41:39,876 --> 00:41:42,500 I was immediately drawn to that area. 792 00:41:42,534 --> 00:41:46,331 And now I know why. 793 00:41:46,365 --> 00:41:50,024 I feel like I have, definitely, a sense of closure 794 00:41:50,059 --> 00:41:53,441 now, especially since he was able to fill in all the blanks 795 00:41:53,476 --> 00:41:55,547 that I had. 796 00:41:55,582 --> 00:41:59,586 Now I just feel like, OK, I'm done with that, 797 00:41:59,620 --> 00:42:02,036 and I can move on now. 62380

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