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She was screaming,
I have to go back!
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He said, I chose you
to be my mom again.
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She can remember descending
the staircase looking down
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at the man, and he's
waiting for her.
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He just matter-of-factly
turned to me and said, Mommy,
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my brother died in the army.
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How he knows even about death
at the time, it was scary.
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He would just start screaming,
and he would not stop.
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I couldn't believe my
own daughter had accused me
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of kidnapping her.
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Is there something going
on that I don't know about?
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I felt helpless.
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It was distressing
that she was so adamant
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about this place.
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He might be having
a past life memory.
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Indianapolis is a big city.
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There's a good mixture
of people around.
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It's a big melting pot.
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We have the Children's Museum.
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We have a lot of parks around.
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It's a good place
to raise a family.
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I'm originally from
Senegal, West Africa.
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I come here after I
retire from the army.
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Just come for a better life.
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When I was pregnant with
Elhadji, he was my firstborn,
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but he was my second pregnancy.
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When he made it to
term, I was relieved.
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And we got to take
him home the next day.
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I name Elhadji after
a good friend of mine.
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Elhadji is an Islamic name.
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It's a title for the pilgrim
after they come from the Mecca.
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More often than not,
I would find him just
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in his own little world.
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If you called out his name,
he would not respond at all.
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When Elhadji was in the zone,
nothing could pull him out
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of it.
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If I tried to get him to focus,
he would just have a fit.
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He would just start screaming
at the top of his lungs,
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and he would not stop.
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I just figured that he was
thinking about little boy
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stuff, because what could
possibly be in his little world
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other than cartoons and games?
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Elhadji was born
with knowledge.
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He was born different
than other kids.
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Elhadji can do
calculations in his head
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that most people need
a calculator for.
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At the end of his last school
year came the multiplication
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paper, and the teacher just
wanted to know what their skill
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level is.
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And so I couldn't help
him at all really.
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I explained what
multiplication was.
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He got the concept pretty quick.
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He totally did that
whole worksheet
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in like less than a minute.
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He just whizzed through it.
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I didn't help him at all.
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And I was like, wow,
how did he do that?
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So I asked him, I
said, how do you--
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how did you do that so fast?
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And he said, I used to
work on the old computers.
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I was like, what are
you talking about?
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I thought, well, maybe he did
work on an old IBM computer
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in school or something.
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So I asked his teacher.
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She said, no, we don't have
any computers like that.
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So I had him describe it, and
he said that they were tan
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and they were huge computers.
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They were big.
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That's all I could
get out of him.
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I just didn't know
what to think.
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Elhadji is very attracted to
military objects, toys, themes.
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Elhadji would build things
out of Tinkertoys and blocks,
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but he particularly likes to
build guns and machine guns
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and pretends like
they're machine guns
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and make machine gun noises.
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We're not a gun family at all.
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We don't own a gun.
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So I didn't know where
it was coming from.
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He started talking a
lot about his brother,
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and I attributed it to the
fact that he was talking
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about his half-brother that
was still, at that time,
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living in Senegal.
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At the time, I have a son
who was still back in Africa.
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That's what I was thinking
he was talking about.
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I would show pictures to
Elhadji about his brother.
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Yeah, you do have a brother.
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We would look at the
pictures, but he would
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talk about some other brother.
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I'm like, what other brother?
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He told me that his
brother was 19 years old.
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His brother in Senegal at
that time was 11 or 12.
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One time, Elhadji
and I were playing,
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and he just matter-of-factly
turned to me and said,
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Mommy, my brother
died in the army.
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This brother was shot.
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That is when I realized
that he must not be talking
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about his half-brother.
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I couldn't believe
what I was hearing.
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Central Georgia is in
the heart of the Bible Belt
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and is quite religious.
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Centerville is a small town
in the center of Georgia.
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It has a small town charm to it.
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Most people know each other,
and they're quite friendly.
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My name is Medley, and
I am a stay-at-home mom.
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Riley was born on
March 12, 1996.
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After a pretty normal pregnancy,
I had a difficult delivery
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with Riley.
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During delivery,
Riley's head was fused.
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The bones were fused so
they didn't lap over.
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When they're fused
together, it's hard for her
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to come down the birth canal.
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It was a painful delivery.
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After I gave birth, I was
incapable of doing anything
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for a long time.
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I still have
problems to this day.
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Riley was born with gray
hair, which was really
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surprising to all of us.
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The doctors could
not explain it.
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At the age of six
months, Riley's hair
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began to change color.
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That was a relief that
she had color to her hair.
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My name is Kimberly.
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I've known Riley since
she was two years old.
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I'm a friend of the family.
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Riley had a tendency to act
older than what she really was.
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She was very articulate.
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Her speech patterns
were more of an adult as
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opposed to a child her age.
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And when we went
to the grocery store,
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at school, anywhere, she
could start talking to people
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in these full
conversations, and they'd
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be shocked at such a small
child talking to them.
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Riley was the type of child
that you never knew what she was
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going to do next or say next.
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And then what
happened confused me.
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When the movie
"Titanic" came out,
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Riley was around
three years of age.
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And her stepsisters were
discussing the movie.
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Riley seemed to know a
lot about the "Titanic."
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Riley had began telling them
about what had occurred.
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She was not talking about
the movie stars of the day.
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She was talking about
the real "Titanic."
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She was talking about people
coming back to the docks
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and people looking to find out
if their family's names were
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on the roster of the dead.
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It was shocking that
she knew any of this.
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Riley had never seen
the movie "Titanic."
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I don't even believe to this
day she's seen "Titanic."
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She was always
advanced for her age,
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but one of the most
shocking moments
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occurred when she was three.
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Riley's stepsister took her
outside to see a full moon,
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and Riley began singing a song.
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And I've never heard
this song before.
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It's never been
on our television.
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I asked at school, and no
one could recall this song.
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I see the moon.
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The moon sees me.
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Please, Mr. Moon,
don't you tell on me.
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The song had an
air of age to it,
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like it come from
another time period.
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Hey, hey.
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Trying to locate this
song, for several years,
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I looked and I
could not find it.
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Hey, hey.
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And then my son
Noah found the song.
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The song was from
the early '30s.
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The name was "Please, Mr.
Moon, Don't Tell On Me"
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by Hartman's Heart Breakers.
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I knew this was the song because
I could remember the tune.
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Then when we heard the
rest of it, I was in shock.
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But
it feels so good.
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The song has a lot
of sexual innuendo.
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It was shocking.
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Part of the lyrics in the
song say, "I want a daddy,
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I want his bed."
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And those type of
lyrics are not something
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you're going to hear in
"Ring Around the Rosies."
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It's not something a
three-year-old would be exposed
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to at the time.
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I couldn't believe
what I was hearing.
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I wanted to put it away and
just forget this was occurring.
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Why would my toddler
know this song?
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It didn't make any sense
that my daughter was
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talking about this "Titanic" and
singing a song from the '30s.
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But nothing could have
prepared us for what went wrong
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on our next family vacation.
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From the moment Elhadji could
speak, he talked about an older
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brother.
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I didn't really
think much of it,
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but then he started
saying other weird things.
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One time Elhadji
and I were playing,
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and he just matter-of-factly
turned to me and said,
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Mommy, my brother
died in the army.
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He was shot.
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Up until that time, I had been
reassuring him about his older
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brother in Senegal.
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But this was something else.
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This was something new.
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I never have a son who
could just got killed.
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And I started, like, just
thinking about how he knows
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even about death at the time.
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It was-- it was just
so scary and confusing.
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He seemed to be
concerned, and we
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would have to explain
to him, honey,
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we don't know this brother
you're talking about.
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Your brother that you have
is in Senegal, and he's alive
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and he's fine.
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And he would say, no.
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No.
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He wanted me to tell
him what happened,
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but I had to explain to him
I don't know what happened.
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This was all before
he started daycare.
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He wasn't watching anything
other than these two kids'
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shows that he was obsessed with,
and that's all he ever watched.
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So it was scary to hear
him say things like that,
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and I didn't know where he
was picking it up, you know,
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and who from.
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And I felt helpless.
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I was in the army,
and I went to some wars.
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I don't know how a two-year-old
going to be starting talking
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about war.
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And I never told him about
me being in the army.
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I don't know where
he really got it.
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He was mentioning
people getting killed.
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I just played it off and hoped
that he would forget about it
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and change the subject.
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Between ages two and four, he
started with something else.
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And he just matter-of-factly
said, well, you know,
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God makes us learn
lessons in life.
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If we don't learn
them, we have to--
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to go again.
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He has very intricate details
about this whole process
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he says everyone goes
through with God.
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We come from a mixed family.
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And I'm American, and my
husband is Senegalese.
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His religion is
Muslim, and so is mine.
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We have taught our children
basic Muslim beliefs.
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What Elhadji was saying that
we have to choose our families
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again and going through
a process with God
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to see if we learned our lessons
or not, and that determining
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that we go to live
again or not, that's
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not part of the Muslim belief.
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I didn't know where this
was coming from at all.
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It was just kind of shocking,
like, wow, he's actually
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thinking about
these deep concepts.
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I want him to be a believer
like me, believe in God,
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believe in life and death.
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I started to wonder what was
happening to my little boy.
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My daughter Riley was
born with gray hair,
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knew about the "Titanic," and
also sang a burlesque song
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from the 1930s by heart.
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I wondered where was
this all coming from.
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And time went on and
life was pretty normal.
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When Riley was around three,
we decided to take a trip
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to Jekyll Island.
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Jekyll Island is located
off the coast of Georgia.
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It's a small island with a
lot of nature and animals
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around it, but it also
has a lot of history.
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In the 1920s, in the turn of the
century, people from up north,
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they had many vacation homes
that are on Jekyll Island.
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The first morning
of our vacation,
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we went to a natural beach.
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We were walking down the beach,
and Riley made an announcement
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that she'd been here before.
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And I told her, you have
never been here, honey--
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thinking that maybe she'd
been mistaken about it.
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And she says, no, Mama, it's
not when you were alive,
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not when you were here.
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She says, you
weren't my mama then.
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I was confused about what
she was saying to me.
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It was hard to hear her
say, you're not my mom.
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She was very adamant in saying
that she had been to that beach
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before.
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She's never been to Jekyll
prior to that moment.
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After lunch, we decided
that we were going
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to take a historic tour, and the
first house that we stopped at
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was the Rockefeller Cottage.
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Riley was running up the steps.
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And she ran inside, and
there are these velvet ropes.
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She tried to go through them,
which the tour director stopped
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her.
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She was so happy to be in there,
and she's just running around
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and I'm trying to get ahold
of her to calm her down.
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Riley's never been that happy
or excited to be someplace,
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and she never acted
like that anywhere else.
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She was telling us, we
sat over here for reading,
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we ate over here.
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And then she started saying,
this isn't the right furniture,
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that the plateware
wasn't their plateware.
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The tour director started
laughing and he says,
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has she been on the tour before?
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And I said, she's
never been here before.
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How does Riley know that this
is not the correct dinnerware?
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A three-year-old would
normally not even think
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about something like that.
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When we were trying
to get her out,
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at first like, come
on, it's time to go.
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She was like, I'm not leaving.
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This is where I belong.
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She was just pulling
and refusing to come.
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Finally, I ended up having
to pick her up physically
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and carry her out.
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No!
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No!
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And she immediately says,
I have to go back there.
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That's my home.
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That's where I lived.
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That's where my real family is.
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I was embarrassed, first of all,
that she was acting this way,
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thinking that she's
never had a fit before.
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And I was like, I have to stop
this, I have to calm her down.
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And so I forbid the mention
of Jekyll Island in the home.
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When Riley came back
from Jekyll Island,
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she wasn't playing
with the children.
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You could tell
that she was upset.
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After she went
back to preschool,
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I was stopped in the
hall by her teacher.
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And she told me, was
there something going on?
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Because Riley had been
talking about being taken away
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from her real home
and her real family.
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She had the teacher
convinced something was wrong
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and something was going on.
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I couldn't believe
my own daughter
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had accused me of
kidnapping her.
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On a trip to Jekyll
Island, Georgia,
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my three-year-old daughter was
convinced that the Rockefeller
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Cottage was her home.
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She refused to leave and
told her preschool teacher
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that I had kidnapped her
from her real family.
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Well, I was shocked.
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I can't believe Riley is telling
everybody that we took her away
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from her real home, her family.
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And I'm having to go around
explaining to people when it
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started and when it happened.
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I never thought I would have
to defend that my daughter
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Riley was my daughter.
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I was starting to
get really worried.
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Medley is a very loving
mother, very attentive mother.
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It never crossed my
mind that something
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would be wrong at home
because they were just
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that kind of a family.
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My belief is that time
is not a straight line,
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but it's a circle and
that we all come around.
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The first thing that
popped into my mind
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was, did she have a past
life coming back to her?
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It just was very confusing
that this is happening
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at our house with our
child, and she is really
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having a hard time.
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So as a mother, you're
trying to rationalize it.
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But I kind of have a strict
religious upbringing.
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It was hard for me to believe
that my child was going
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through this.
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When I suggested to Medley
that it could have been
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a past life, the thought
had never crossed her mind
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that that could possibly have
been what the problem was.
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That was the first
moment when I considered
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that this was some type of
reincarnation or a past life
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experience.
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Couldn't understand
where it came from,
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but I'm starting to
believe this is happening.
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But I just still want to just
put it in a box and forget it.
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Things started taking a
scary turn at this point.
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Riley started telling
her stepsisters
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that there was a man appearing.
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She said she'd see him
materialize in the bedroom,
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and sometimes he would walk
from the closet to the door.
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And I couldn't see him,
they couldn't see him.
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But she firmly
believed he was there.
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She wasn't frightened
of the figure.
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This was somebody she felt
like she had known before.
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The only thing she was
frightened of was the dreams.
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She described to me
a wooden staircase.
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She can remember descending
the staircase looking down
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at the man, and he's
waiting for her.
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She said she didn't understand
the meaning of the dream.
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She just felt like
she needed to get
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to the bottom of the
staircase to this person.
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The dream just ends right there.
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When Riley had woke up from her
dream, she had, like, anxiety.
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She would be streaming
tears and shaking
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and just didn't want to talk.
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I wondered what was
happening to my child.
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I couldn't help her, and I
didn't know what was going on.
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My son Elhadji talked about
an older brother who was killed.
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He was so upset when
he would speak of this,
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I didn't know how to help him.
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Then he described
talking to God in heaven.
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Things were quiet for a
while, and then something else
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happened.
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Elhadji started telling
me about dreaming.
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It started to get a little
more intense when he was older.
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He would scream in the
middle of the night,
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and I would have to come in
his room and console him.
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He would say that he
dreamed about war.
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He going to be talking
about the killings and all
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those people coming to him.
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I'm trying to explain to him
not to believe in whatever he's
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seeing.
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He's so scared sometimes
even he couldn't get up
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in the middle of the night.
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He has to have the
lights on all the time
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or the TV on all the time.
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He would say that
he dreamt about war,
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and he would still say
things about his brother.
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I just don't want
him to believe in that.
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And I always explain to him,
no, you don't have a brother.
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You are Elhadji.
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You are my son.
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But sometimes he
is just saying it
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like he know what he is saying.
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All of the
details that Elhadji
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has been saying throughout the
years have been consistent.
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They haven't changed at all.
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I started to wonder, is he
remembering a past life?
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My brother died
when he was 19.
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I have dreams about, like,
what happened with my brother.
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I was trying to get
answers, a piece--
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more pieces to the puzzle.
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So I asked him, is
there anything else
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that you remember?
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He told me that he thinks
he was 45 when he died.
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And he says, well, I do
remember these numbers--
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1-9-5-9.
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When I put it together in my
head, I said, that's a year.
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I thought, well, it could
be his year of birth.
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If he was really born in
1959, and like he says,
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died at age 45, that would
have meant he would have died
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around 2004, 2005.
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Elhadji was born in 2006.
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I researched war and the 1959
that he was talking about,
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and Vietnam War era popped up.
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1959 was the start
of the Vietnam War.
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If who Elhadji was
was born in 1959
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and he was around four or five
when his brother supposedly
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died, that would have meant his
brother was fighting in a war
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during the Vietnam War era.
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There were many men that died
at 19 in the Vietnam War.
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That was the moment
when I realized
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he must be telling about
something that did really
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happen.
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My son Elhadji was constantly
talking about his brother being
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shot in the war at age 19.
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I started to wonder if he
was remembering a past life
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and if his brother had
died in the Vietnam War.
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It was a really
emotional time for us.
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I said, if you really can
remember that your brother did
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go to the military,
do you remember where
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you lived, about your life?
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And he said, yeah,
I lived in Canada.
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Just like that.
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All I know is that US men
fled to Canada in order
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to not go to Vietnam.
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It just wasn't adding up.
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I lived in Canada, but
I died when I was 45.
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I remember how I died.
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When he told me
that, I thought maybe
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it wasn't the Vietnam War
because Canada didn't fight
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in it.
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But then I thought, let
me just do some research.
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I found out that although
Canada was neutral in the war,
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about 30,000 Canadians actually
joined the war in the Vietnam.
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Of those men, 110 died and
seven were missing in action.
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It all started coming
together real quick.
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And that was a big
moment for me, that--
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to find out that what he was
actually saying was true.
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Monica just think
maybe Elhadji was here
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in another life
and just come back,
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but my religion does not
allow me to believe in that.
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I do believe that
one of those 110 men
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were probably Elhadji's brother
that were killed in action.
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It makes me sad when
I think about him dying.
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Like, I still think about him.
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There must have been some
trauma in his other life
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for him to carry it over
to this life, remember it.
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00:27:10,456 --> 00:27:12,147
It must have went deep.
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Maybe he just never
got to say goodbye.
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You have to live a lot of
lives before you get it right.
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Elhadji scare me right now.
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As a father, I want him
to have a normal life.
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He's not going to be just
scared all his life thinking
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about those things.
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I want to take him to a place
where these fallen soldiers
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have-- are honored and
so they aren't forgotten.
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Maybe seeing that
they aren't forgotten
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will allow him to move on.
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I'm really hoping that I can
finally help him find closure.
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From the time
my daughter Riley
489
00:28:07,755 --> 00:28:09,342
was a toddler, she's
been saying and doing
490
00:28:09,377 --> 00:28:11,034
things we could not explain.
491
00:28:11,068 --> 00:28:14,520
She had an intense connection
to Jekyll Island and a memory
492
00:28:14,554 --> 00:28:16,039
of who she was when
she lived there.
493
00:28:24,116 --> 00:28:26,532
I've made a conscious effort
not to take her back to Jekyll
494
00:28:26,566 --> 00:28:31,433
Island because I thought
that it would cause problems.
495
00:28:31,468 --> 00:28:33,746
She started having nightmares.
496
00:28:33,781 --> 00:28:36,991
The way Riley described
the dreams to me,
497
00:28:37,025 --> 00:28:40,097
I knew she was seeing something.
498
00:28:40,132 --> 00:28:41,858
I was frustrated.
499
00:28:41,892 --> 00:28:45,309
It was something we just
couldn't understand.
500
00:28:45,344 --> 00:28:48,968
My name is Riley,
and I'm 18 years old.
501
00:28:49,003 --> 00:28:51,868
I've been having this dream
since I went to Jekyll Island
502
00:28:51,902 --> 00:28:56,458
of me descending down to this
man with a little hat on.
503
00:28:56,493 --> 00:28:58,909
Then my dream just
kind of stops,
504
00:28:58,944 --> 00:29:02,982
and I never make it to the guy.
505
00:29:03,017 --> 00:29:06,089
I think it means in my past
life I died in a situation
506
00:29:06,123 --> 00:29:09,333
where I didn't get to finish
something with this guy.
507
00:29:09,368 --> 00:29:14,545
Or I had an ending that wasn't
the way it was supposed to go.
508
00:29:14,580 --> 00:29:17,859
Maybe it's because she
hasn't completed something.
509
00:29:17,894 --> 00:29:21,035
It's so frustrating to
her, and she just feels
510
00:29:21,069 --> 00:29:24,383
like she needs to finish it.
511
00:29:24,417 --> 00:29:26,281
It frightens me because
I'm wondering if something
512
00:29:26,316 --> 00:29:29,043
traumatic happened.
513
00:29:29,077 --> 00:29:32,322
Did somebody hurt
her in a past life?
514
00:29:32,356 --> 00:29:35,290
It was something we just
couldn't understand.
515
00:29:35,325 --> 00:29:40,364
If she did have a past
life, who was she?
516
00:29:40,399 --> 00:29:42,401
When she was older,
and she was like,
517
00:29:42,435 --> 00:29:45,818
why didn't you help
me find the answers?
518
00:29:45,853 --> 00:29:49,373
And then I was like, oh,
I should have done that.
519
00:29:49,408 --> 00:29:52,135
Because I thought I
was protecting her.
520
00:29:52,169 --> 00:29:56,829
I hope I didn't miss a chance
for her to get the answers.
521
00:29:56,864 --> 00:30:01,282
And that bothers me because
she really wants the answers.
522
00:30:01,316 --> 00:30:05,389
And I hope it's not
too late to find them.
523
00:30:05,424 --> 00:30:07,495
Riley is now 18 years old.
524
00:30:07,529 --> 00:30:10,394
She just graduated
from high school.
525
00:30:10,429 --> 00:30:13,259
And she really wants to
go back to Jekyll Island,
526
00:30:13,294 --> 00:30:17,401
and we have planned a trip
to return to Jekyll Island.
527
00:30:17,436 --> 00:30:19,024
When I speak
about Jekyll Island
528
00:30:19,058 --> 00:30:21,060
or talk about it or
even bring up the dreams
529
00:30:21,095 --> 00:30:23,960
and stuff that I had,
I tend to get upset.
530
00:30:23,994 --> 00:30:25,133
Sometimes I'll cry.
531
00:30:25,168 --> 00:30:27,032
Sometimes it'll make me happy.
532
00:30:27,066 --> 00:30:30,587
It just changes emotions within.
533
00:30:30,621 --> 00:30:34,246
But I know that I need to go
on discovering what happened.
534
00:30:37,318 --> 00:30:42,357
I'm hoping that learning more
about it will help me move on.
535
00:30:42,392 --> 00:30:44,256
I'm nervous about
just finding out
536
00:30:44,290 --> 00:30:49,295
something I don't want to find
out, it changing me somehow.
537
00:30:49,330 --> 00:30:53,575
There's multiple things that
can happen, and it scares me.
538
00:30:53,610 --> 00:30:55,267
I hope this trip is not
going to be a big mistake.
539
00:31:08,142 --> 00:31:11,559
My son Elhadji was constantly
talking about his brother being
540
00:31:11,593 --> 00:31:13,250
shot in the war at age 19.
541
00:31:17,496 --> 00:31:19,636
And he says, well, I do
remember these numbers--
542
00:31:19,670 --> 00:31:22,604
1-9-5-9.
543
00:31:22,639 --> 00:31:24,606
I researched war.
544
00:31:24,641 --> 00:31:28,127
And if who Elhadji
was was born in 1959,
545
00:31:28,162 --> 00:31:30,474
that would have
meant his brother
546
00:31:30,509 --> 00:31:32,580
was fighting in Vietnam War era.
547
00:31:36,066 --> 00:31:38,517
My kids, I love them, and I
want them to have normal life.
548
00:31:52,186 --> 00:31:53,463
Keep out of fountain.
549
00:31:57,156 --> 00:31:59,331
We're going to go down this
way because I have something
550
00:31:59,365 --> 00:32:00,953
to show you.
551
00:32:00,988 --> 00:32:03,197
Right now, we're at the
Veterans Memorial Park.
552
00:32:03,231 --> 00:32:05,958
I really wanted to take Elhadji
here so that we can kind
553
00:32:05,993 --> 00:32:10,342
of acknowledge the facts that
he did have this past life.
554
00:32:10,376 --> 00:32:12,689
I'm not denying it in any way.
555
00:32:12,723 --> 00:32:16,693
That way, he can move on and
have some closure with it.
556
00:32:16,727 --> 00:32:21,663
There's a special reason
we could be here today.
557
00:32:21,698 --> 00:32:26,461
We're here to honor your
brother that was a soldier.
558
00:32:26,496 --> 00:32:32,226
Well, soldiers actually
fought in different wars,
559
00:32:32,260 --> 00:32:34,366
and we're going to go
to the Vietnam Memorial.
560
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,783
I don't want him to
feel sad anymore.
561
00:32:37,817 --> 00:32:39,543
I want him to be Elhadji.
562
00:32:39,578 --> 00:32:42,201
I want him to know who
he is in this life,
563
00:32:42,236 --> 00:32:47,413
that he has a purpose in this
life and be Elhadji, be my son.
564
00:32:47,448 --> 00:32:48,656
Look at all these names.
565
00:32:48,690 --> 00:32:50,451
Dang.
566
00:32:50,485 --> 00:32:53,661
These are all names of people
that died serving their country
567
00:32:53,695 --> 00:32:55,594
in the Vietnam War.
568
00:32:55,628 --> 00:32:58,562
Someone left something
here special.
569
00:32:58,597 --> 00:33:02,359
I know your brother's name is
not on this list, probably.
570
00:33:02,394 --> 00:33:03,188
I guess it could be.
571
00:33:03,222 --> 00:33:04,189
You never know.
572
00:33:04,223 --> 00:33:05,742
There's years up here--
573
00:33:05,776 --> 00:33:08,779
1962, '63, '64--
574
00:33:08,814 --> 00:33:11,127
No, it was '63.
575
00:33:11,161 --> 00:33:12,404
You think it was?
576
00:33:12,438 --> 00:33:13,819
It was '63.
577
00:33:13,853 --> 00:33:15,338
- When he died?
- Uh-huh.
578
00:33:15,372 --> 00:33:16,753
You can say goodbye
to your brother.
579
00:33:16,787 --> 00:33:20,101
No.
580
00:33:20,136 --> 00:33:21,585
Why not, buddy?
581
00:33:21,620 --> 00:33:24,278
You don't want to focus
on living this life?
582
00:33:24,312 --> 00:33:28,489
I kind of do,
but not too much.
583
00:33:28,523 --> 00:33:33,252
This is a memorial and
it's a place to remember.
584
00:33:33,287 --> 00:33:34,736
So we're never
going to forget him.
585
00:33:42,606 --> 00:33:44,401
You can say goodbye
to your brother
586
00:33:44,436 --> 00:33:48,060
so that you can
focus on this life.
587
00:33:48,095 --> 00:33:51,339
It's OK to let go now because
that was the last life,
588
00:33:51,374 --> 00:33:52,858
and this is this life.
589
00:33:52,892 --> 00:33:53,790
Understand that?
590
00:33:53,824 --> 00:33:56,068
Mm-hmm.
591
00:33:56,103 --> 00:33:56,862
I understand.
592
00:33:56,896 --> 00:33:57,863
Good.
593
00:33:57,897 --> 00:33:58,622
You can just say goodbye.
594
00:34:03,144 --> 00:34:06,561
And when we put
our soldier down,
595
00:34:06,596 --> 00:34:09,116
I hope that gives
you some peace.
596
00:34:09,150 --> 00:34:12,464
This is about Elhadji having
closure with his life.
597
00:34:12,498 --> 00:34:14,466
I don't want him to forget
his past life at all,
598
00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:16,882
but I need him to
focus on the now.
599
00:34:16,916 --> 00:34:20,334
And basically the whole
point of what we did
600
00:34:20,368 --> 00:34:26,305
today was to remember that
he did have a brother,
601
00:34:26,340 --> 00:34:31,241
but he doesn't have to
be sad about it anymore.
602
00:34:31,276 --> 00:34:31,862
He can move on.
603
00:35:00,822 --> 00:35:03,170
We are at Jekyll
Island, and we
604
00:35:03,204 --> 00:35:06,138
are trying to help Riley come
to terms with what has been
605
00:35:06,173 --> 00:35:07,139
bothering her over the years.
606
00:35:15,734 --> 00:35:17,770
As we were pulling
into the compound,
607
00:35:17,805 --> 00:35:20,532
I started getting
really nervous about how
608
00:35:20,566 --> 00:35:25,364
she was going to react and how
this was going to be for her.
609
00:35:25,399 --> 00:35:28,160
This trip, I hope,
will help her.
610
00:35:28,195 --> 00:35:32,578
Maybe it'll help me feel better
about not asking her questions
611
00:35:32,613 --> 00:35:36,444
in the past or talking about it.
612
00:35:36,479 --> 00:35:38,481
I'm feeling
different emotions.
613
00:35:38,515 --> 00:35:40,483
You all right?
614
00:35:40,517 --> 00:35:41,691
Excited and nervous.
615
00:35:44,556 --> 00:35:46,178
You all right?
616
00:35:46,213 --> 00:35:47,352
Yeah.
617
00:35:47,386 --> 00:35:49,457
All my life I'd had this
feeling that there was something
618
00:35:49,492 --> 00:35:52,322
missing from me.
619
00:35:52,357 --> 00:35:54,221
I'm hoping by coming
back to Jekyll Island
620
00:35:54,255 --> 00:35:55,739
that I will find
what was missing
621
00:35:55,774 --> 00:36:01,297
or finish something that
will cause me to feel 100%.
622
00:36:01,331 --> 00:36:04,541
I'm hoping to find a name and
find out more about my memories
623
00:36:04,576 --> 00:36:06,819
and maybe connect
to my past life
624
00:36:06,854 --> 00:36:08,614
in the way I did
when I was younger.
625
00:36:08,649 --> 00:36:09,788
- Hello.
- Hi.
626
00:36:09,822 --> 00:36:10,582
Hi, I'm Riley.
627
00:36:10,616 --> 00:36:11,962
Riley, I'm John Hunter.
628
00:36:11,997 --> 00:36:12,653
I'm Medley.
629
00:36:12,687 --> 00:36:14,620
Medley, nice to meet y'all.
630
00:36:14,655 --> 00:36:15,966
Good to have you back on Jekyll.
631
00:36:16,001 --> 00:36:16,760
Yeah.
632
00:36:16,795 --> 00:36:17,761
It's great to be back.
633
00:36:17,796 --> 00:36:19,798
Let's take a stroll
and take a look inside
634
00:36:19,832 --> 00:36:21,972
and I'll show you a
little bit of the cottage.
635
00:36:22,007 --> 00:36:24,630
Come on in.
636
00:36:29,325 --> 00:36:31,879
That hat over there is kind
of like the one in my dream
637
00:36:31,913 --> 00:36:35,400
from the bottom, but I
think it was shorter.
638
00:36:35,434 --> 00:36:37,954
Well, if it was shorter,
it may have been a--
639
00:36:37,988 --> 00:36:41,716
a bowler hat, which would've
been rounded a little bit more.
640
00:36:41,751 --> 00:36:44,512
I do definitely feel like
I have lived here before.
641
00:36:44,547 --> 00:36:46,480
Oh, I really like those beds.
642
00:36:46,514 --> 00:36:49,897
I even had the random memory
of sleeping in that bed
643
00:36:49,931 --> 00:36:51,588
and waking up in it.
644
00:36:51,623 --> 00:36:54,350
That's the ones that we
know have been in the house.
645
00:36:58,043 --> 00:37:00,528
Yeah, I definitely feel
like a lot of the furniture
646
00:37:00,563 --> 00:37:03,497
is in the wrong place.
647
00:37:03,531 --> 00:37:05,671
It seemed like I was getting
so many different vibes
648
00:37:05,706 --> 00:37:06,845
from different rooms.
649
00:37:06,879 --> 00:37:08,605
I'm just like-- I'm
happy to be here.
650
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,986
And at the same time,
for some reason,
651
00:37:10,020 --> 00:37:12,678
it's like this feeling
of like just being mad.
652
00:37:22,447 --> 00:37:27,486
We're at Jekyll Island, and
I do feel like I belong here.
653
00:37:36,668 --> 00:37:38,842
It seemed like I was getting
so many different vibes
654
00:37:38,877 --> 00:37:39,774
from different rooms.
655
00:37:39,809 --> 00:37:41,638
I'm just like-- I'm
happy to be here.
656
00:37:41,673 --> 00:37:43,019
And at the same time,
for some reason,
657
00:37:43,053 --> 00:37:45,677
it's like this feeling
of like just being
658
00:37:45,711 --> 00:37:49,474
mad that the house
has been, like,
659
00:37:49,508 --> 00:37:51,959
moved around type of feeling.
660
00:37:51,993 --> 00:37:55,342
It's really weird.
661
00:37:55,376 --> 00:37:57,758
Right now, I can't even process
everything because it's just
662
00:37:57,792 --> 00:38:01,037
so much at one time.
663
00:38:01,071 --> 00:38:02,349
You want to go into the--
664
00:38:02,383 --> 00:38:03,729
Yeah, we'll go
into the next one.
665
00:38:03,764 --> 00:38:06,111
OK.
666
00:38:06,145 --> 00:38:09,597
Wow.
667
00:38:09,632 --> 00:38:14,602
I think these are actually the
stairs from the dream because
668
00:38:14,637 --> 00:38:17,778
of the stained glass window
and the shape of this.
669
00:38:22,127 --> 00:38:23,922
Yeah.
670
00:38:23,956 --> 00:38:25,855
The fact that I got
to see the staircase
671
00:38:25,889 --> 00:38:29,445
really was the emotional part.
672
00:38:29,479 --> 00:38:30,825
That was such a major detail.
673
00:38:30,860 --> 00:38:33,345
Always looking down
and seeing the rug
674
00:38:33,380 --> 00:38:37,487
like almost a pathway
to the guy at the end.
675
00:38:37,522 --> 00:38:38,143
Can you do it?
676
00:38:38,177 --> 00:38:40,525
Can you go up?
677
00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:41,457
Yeah, I think I can.
678
00:38:41,491 --> 00:38:43,907
OK.
679
00:38:43,942 --> 00:38:46,082
It confirmed also the
fact that something probably
680
00:38:46,116 --> 00:38:48,084
happened on the staircase.
681
00:38:48,118 --> 00:38:53,365
Yeah, the railing feels
the same in the dream.
682
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,437
Possibly my death or
possibly I fell and got hurt.
683
00:38:56,472 --> 00:38:57,714
Wow.
684
00:38:57,749 --> 00:38:59,440
And I definitely feel
like I didn't get
685
00:38:59,475 --> 00:39:02,374
to finish the staircase ever.
686
00:39:02,409 --> 00:39:03,341
I'm so happy I found it.
687
00:39:06,999 --> 00:39:09,001
I'm really looking forward
to sitting down and getting
688
00:39:09,036 --> 00:39:11,418
to look at pictures
and names, and I'm
689
00:39:11,452 --> 00:39:13,730
nervous and excited about if
he's going to have something
690
00:39:13,765 --> 00:39:15,698
for me that pops out.
691
00:39:15,732 --> 00:39:19,633
The peak of the Jekyll
Island Club was during really
692
00:39:19,667 --> 00:39:21,393
the '20s and early '30s.
693
00:39:21,428 --> 00:39:23,809
The home was purchased
by William Rockefeller.
694
00:39:23,844 --> 00:39:26,122
His idea really was to have
a place that was big enough
695
00:39:26,156 --> 00:39:28,538
to bring all of his-- his
children or grandchildren
696
00:39:28,573 --> 00:39:29,884
at one time.
697
00:39:29,919 --> 00:39:34,095
And so from 1917 until
his death in 1922,
698
00:39:34,130 --> 00:39:36,650
the family came pretty
much every winter.
699
00:39:36,684 --> 00:39:40,170
Well, I've always been drawn
to the '20s style clothing
700
00:39:40,205 --> 00:39:41,068
as well.
701
00:39:41,102 --> 00:39:43,415
Maybe that's where
it's coming from.
702
00:39:43,450 --> 00:39:46,694
And the song was
late '20s, early '30s.
703
00:39:46,729 --> 00:39:48,627
Things started to make sense--
704
00:39:48,662 --> 00:39:52,907
why she knew the "Titanic" sunk
and why she knew a risque song
705
00:39:52,942 --> 00:39:54,909
from the 1930s.
706
00:39:54,944 --> 00:39:57,947
So we have a few things
that we gathered up.
707
00:39:57,981 --> 00:40:01,468
These are some of the members of
the Rockefeller family, William
708
00:40:01,502 --> 00:40:02,917
and Almira Rockefeller.
709
00:40:02,952 --> 00:40:04,091
Wow.
710
00:40:04,125 --> 00:40:07,094
This photograph, we have
William Rockefeller again
711
00:40:07,128 --> 00:40:09,579
with his daughter Emma.
712
00:40:09,614 --> 00:40:11,063
She seemed very
familiar to me.
713
00:40:11,098 --> 00:40:12,996
Just the name Emma caught me.
714
00:40:13,031 --> 00:40:14,688
Yeah, this hat
looks like the one
715
00:40:14,722 --> 00:40:16,862
that the guy was wearing at
the bottom of the stairs.
716
00:40:16,897 --> 00:40:19,520
It's very familiar.
717
00:40:19,555 --> 00:40:22,040
Then, of course, they had some
of their grandchildren here.
718
00:40:22,074 --> 00:40:23,973
In this photo here,
we have Geraldine.
719
00:40:24,007 --> 00:40:26,769
She was a granddaughter of
William Rockefeller, daughter
720
00:40:26,803 --> 00:40:28,874
of Emma, who you
saw in the picture.
721
00:40:28,909 --> 00:40:32,913
Her face looks
really familiar to me.
722
00:40:32,947 --> 00:40:35,778
There is a gut instinct
about Geraldine.
723
00:40:35,812 --> 00:40:38,574
The name even sounded
kind of familiar, too.
724
00:40:38,608 --> 00:40:42,819
I'm thinking she had a strong
influence in my past life.
725
00:40:42,854 --> 00:40:46,616
And Emma Rockefeller is
actually Geraldine's mother,
726
00:40:46,651 --> 00:40:48,687
which was very interesting
to me because both of them
727
00:40:48,722 --> 00:40:49,999
stood out to me.
728
00:40:50,033 --> 00:40:52,277
Do you know if anybody
died in this house?
729
00:40:52,311 --> 00:40:53,312
Yes, actually.
730
00:40:53,347 --> 00:40:56,488
Almira Rockefeller
passed away here in 1920,
731
00:40:56,523 --> 00:40:58,732
and William passed
away two years later.
732
00:40:58,766 --> 00:41:02,563
So the family almost abandoned
the house after that point
733
00:41:02,598 --> 00:41:04,116
and then sold it.
734
00:41:04,151 --> 00:41:05,704
Wow.
735
00:41:05,739 --> 00:41:07,223
The fact that I got
these names and got
736
00:41:07,257 --> 00:41:10,985
to see pictures of them,
I feel more connected now.
737
00:41:11,020 --> 00:41:13,125
Thank you so much for taking
the time to do this for me.
738
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,679
I feel like it helped very much.
739
00:41:14,713 --> 00:41:15,783
It was nice meeting you.
740
00:41:15,818 --> 00:41:17,647
Nice meeting you.
741
00:41:17,682 --> 00:41:21,306
The fact that I was able to
finish going down the stairs
742
00:41:21,340 --> 00:41:23,895
was a really big thing to
me because maybe possibly
743
00:41:23,929 --> 00:41:29,003
that was what I was supposed
to complete in my past life.
744
00:41:29,038 --> 00:41:30,833
And now that I have, it
feels like a huge burden
745
00:41:30,867 --> 00:41:31,627
has been lifted.
746
00:41:42,258 --> 00:41:44,881
Initially, I felt nervous
about bringing her back
747
00:41:44,916 --> 00:41:46,020
to Jekyll Island.
748
00:41:46,055 --> 00:41:47,781
But at the end of
the day, I feel
749
00:41:47,815 --> 00:41:49,852
like it was a good experience.
750
00:41:49,886 --> 00:41:52,613
I feel that I have closure
now about my past life
751
00:41:52,648 --> 00:41:55,582
and that I'm going to be able
to move on when I get back home.
752
00:41:55,616 --> 00:41:56,928
I hope that my dream
will be complete
753
00:41:56,962 --> 00:41:58,343
and I'll get to
go down the stairs
754
00:41:58,377 --> 00:42:00,725
or see what happened
while going downstairs.
59721
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