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- Dear Karla, this is to inform you
that having served eight years of your 12 year term,
you are now eligible for parole.
In connection. With this eligibility, you are
to be transferred to this facility for extended evaluation,
at the end of which it will be my responsibility
to recommend for
or against around
Carla.
It is essential
that you approach this evaluation in a spirit
of complete openness
and truthfulness in all matters,
just as it will be indispensable for me
to keep an open mind.
- Hello, Carla. Hi, Dr. Arnold.
- You look well, - Thank you. I feel good.
I got my university degree, you know, just last month.
- Congratulations. Thank you.
Getting a degree while in prison.
That's quite an accomplishment.
- Do you mind if I smoke? Helps me relax.
- Make yourself at home. - I brought my pajamas.
So what do you wanna talk about? I
- Looking at these pictures,
how do you feel about seeing them now?
I don't know.
- It's cute. You,
- God, he was so
beautiful, but it was more than that.
You know, he was, he was a musician, composer.
He had these passionate dreams about becoming a filmmaker.
He had a great job. He was smart.
He was living the life I was dreamed of.
- That was when you first met him.
- Yeah, I was 18
and my friend Peggy, my friend from work
and I, we were at this convention in Toronto.
We were staying at a hotel because what he said was
that every time we were in the restaurant hanging
out, look at that.
And we were on the lookout for guys. Peggy, turn around.
Look. Oh my God, he's so cute.
When I first saw Paul, I don't know, I know it sounds naive,
but I knew right then I was gonna marry him.
Are they coming over here? He was just so perfect.
- Ladies mind if we join you? - Sure. Sit down.
- Oh, hi. - Hi. Excuse me.
- I'm Carla. This is my friend Peggy.
- Hi Peggy. I'm Paul Bernardo. It's my buddy Nick.
- Hi Nick. - Where are you guys staying?
- Here at the hotel? Yeah, we're here
for the veterinary convention.
Whoa.
- Maybe that's why you're bringing out the animal.
Oh my God.
- I like that. Woo. Hey, come on.
- Oh, Jesus, man.
Hey, if you don't like it, don't watch.
- Oh my God.
You're beautiful.
- Doesn't this strike you as a little risque
- Having sex with the H looking guy
- In front of friends?
- You should try it dark. It livens things up.
Look, you have to remember he was older.
I wanted to show him that I was ready for him.
- But you were the one who introduced him
to certain types of sexual play.
- I know what you're talking about. And it was no big deal.
- Tell me more. - All right.
That was at home. It was the first time I brought 'em there
and yeah, I had a little surprise for him.
What is that shop? Put these on me. Put them on. Yeah.
- Yeah.
Oh, I shoulda fucked me.
You want me to fuck you? Yeah. Oh man.
- What if I were a rapist? Oh, put inside.
Paul said, what if I were a rapist
and you responded. Oh, that big call.
- Come on, doc. Don't tell me you've
never heard of talking dirty.
- And that's how it was. - That's all it was to me.
- Hmm. - It was fuck talk. People do it all the time.
- He also says that your relationship is what set him off.
Made him start raping.
- That's bullshit. He was raping girls before we met.
- You didn't know that.
- Look, Paul lived two hours away from me.
I only saw him on the weekends in between.
I don't know what he did. He only talked to me about his job
and his music and his film ideas.
Shut up. Shut
- Up.
Stop. Shut up.
And you didn't know he was a suspect in the
Scarborough rapes.
- No. I knew there was some argument about a sketch
that looked like him in the paper, but it was years
before I found out more than that.
- So you didn't know he'd actually been
called in for questioning?
- Not until much
- Later.
Hey Gus, check out the sun. It's Paul.
He's on the front page. I haven't seen the paper.
You gotta check it out, man. I mean, it's Paul.
There's a picture of the Scarborough rapist,
- But it wasn't just Nick.
It looks like Paul. Lots of people saw the resemblance.
- Guys, - This is worse than a job interview.
- Well, after all the calls we had
to follow up, we had no choice.
- Yeah, I understand. Everybody's been kidding me
about that picture in the paper.
I dunno what to tell you. I mean, I, I I love women.
I'm engaged to a beautiful girl over in St. Catherine's.
I would just, I would never do anything like this.
So would you mind providing a blood sample for us just
so we can eliminate you from the other suspects?
Yeah, of course. Anything you like,
good. And I'm sure everything will be fine.
- Okay. Carla, we haven't spoken of this before
and I know it's difficult for you,
but as the psychiatrist evaluating for parole, I would like
to talk to you about your sister.
Tammy.
Do you think you're ready to do that?
- Sure. Why not?
- Paul says you became jealous of Tammy.
- I wasn't. He had this thing about her
because she was a virgin.
He was disappointed.
I wasn't a, when we met, he wanted something pure.
- And Tammy, it was pure - Maybe to him.
- They became quite close then. Hmm. It didn't bother you.
- No.
- Carla, I must caution you, I can't recommend you
for parole unless you're truthful with me.
- I don't understand - The time they came home
late from shopping.
Your jealousy is well documented and of summer in 1990.
- Go inside. Go inside.
- You've been gone for eight hours.
- So, - So
- Did you fuck her?
Jesus. Oh, I didn't fuck her.
She's still a virgin. Okay. She's
- A slut.
I know you want her, Paul. Just admit it.
- Okay. Okay, so, so
what Carlos?
So what I, I want her I love you.
You're the one I love. That's what matters.
- We're engaged, Paul. - Yeah.
- Are you gonna marry me? Maybe? Of course I am.
I love you too. I love you so much. It's too much.
- It's never too much
- So needy.
Carla, were you truly afraid of losing him to Tammy?
- Doc, you're making me feel like I want some Demerol here.
- You want some?
- No,
- We're finished here.
- Okay, doctor.
- It's all right Carla.
I'll see you tomorrow.
We'll talk about Tammy when you're arrested.
- Okay? Aye,
- I remember you are liking the chocolates.
- You love me, don't you? Car. - You're my king.
- What if your king wants something very precious?
What if a king wants a virgin?
- The king is the king.
But what if the virgin doesn't agree?
- She doesn't even have to know.
- You're talking about Tammy Pole.
- I don't know. Come on car.
This would make us so close forever.
Paul, think about it. Think about where you work.
It's fucking veterinary clinic.
They've got medicine there. You know what I'm talking about?
- No, Paul, I don't.
- Yeah, you do. Car. That shit
that they use when they operate on dogs and cats.
You told me about it. Hallahan.
- That's for animals.
- It's not gonna hurt her car. Come on car.
This is what the king wants. Do that for me.
Won't you car
- For your king?
- They would make a great Christmas present for me. Come on.
We can't just keep putting it off.
- Oh baby. Not today. We just had our
engagement party. For God's sake,
- Carla, we have a deal.
Everything's ready. Right?
- That's the good girl. - See, that's my good girl.
- And there we have the beautiful baby sister. Tammy.
You're on Daiquiri number. What is that?
1, 2, 3. What is it?
- Are there supposed to be two of you?
- Oh, is baby doll a little drunk?
What do you think baby doll? A little drunk.
- Sure. Looks that way.
- All right. What I want to know, Tam,
is are you in the Christmas cheer?
Yeah. That's so cute. Do that again.
Oh, so sweet. She's so
- Fucking hot.
- There you go. Take this.
- Oh, this is so good.
- Christ. She should have been out an hour ago.
- Don't is too much.
- Don't worry. It's not gonna hurt her.
- I love you Paul. I love you too, baby.
More than you. Really, really?
- Yeah. Maybe it all. Try that.
Finally checker. Make sure
I get it.
What? Get it. Get the rag. Get the stuff. Get it.
Oh baby, you're so amazing. Gimme this. I love you.
Okay, do it. Come on. Do it.
I love
- You, Paul.
Yeah, I know you do, baby. Put it on her face.
Yeah.
- Well, that's sweet, isn't it?
Isn't that sweet? Hey, I asked you a question.
- Yeah, baby. It's really, really sweet.
- My God.
- Take off your clothes. What? Take off your clothes.
- But - We, we said
- Just do, just do it.
- Okay.
No sucker. Come
on, sucker.
Breast right there.
- You're not doing it. I did do it. No, you just do it.
Paul. Please hurry up. Do it. Do it. Open your mouth.
Stick out your tongue. I
- Can't.
Yes you can. I can't. You fucking slut.
You fucking fucking ruin my moody.
Don't you ever fucking do that. Look at me.
Do you understand me? I'm sorry.
Oh
- Shit.
What?
- Oh my God. She's not breathing.
- You're fucking kidding me. - Paul.
She's not fucking breathing. Fuck you, Carla.
Fuck did you do Carla? 9 1 1. Can I help you?
This is 61 Dun Donald Street. I need you to send someone.
My little sister stopped breathing. That was 61. Yeah, 61.
My little sister stopped breathing.
You need to send someone. Paramedics are on their way.
Ma'am, please stay calm.
- Go clean the shit outta that other room. I'll finish this.
- Fuck.
Unit seven.
We have
wake the fuck up.
Okay. This is gonna be alright. It's gonna be alright.
- I have the,
- I'm getting a pulse.
Are you getting anything? Nothing.
- Why don't you two? Wait, outside.
- We, we were just sitting downstairs, three
of us watching a video.
And then I guess we dozed off
and then we heard Tammy making this noise.
- What - Kind of noise?
- Kind of like, like wheezing, choking, sort of noise.
- Yeah. She was choking.
- Detective Porter. Yes.
Yes. I see. Okay.
I am very sorry.
I'll wait upstairs, but we'll all need to go downtown now.
- Where's the tape? - It's safe.
- And my letter said, dear Tammy,
I will hold you in my heart forever.
All my love your big sister, Carla. Yes.
I hope you are happy and loved in God's hands.
- This was sincere.
- Absolutely. - Yet,
within a few weeks of her death, you are making a movie
with Paul, the Tammy movie.
Nothing's off limits. Carla,
you can tell me what you did.
Tell me. Why?
- Look, we made a lot of movies.
He was,
he was obsessed with Tammy.
I didn't wanna lose him.
He blamed me for her death. I had to do something.
- But this time the movie was your idea.
- This time. Yeah.
- A bit more to drink in mama. And then
- I need to relax.
It is my mission in life to make you feel good.
- I loved you when you fucked my little sister. Two of you.
I loved it when you took her virginity.
Tomorrow we're gonna take this,
we're gonna put it on Tammy's grave
because it touched you in your most private places.
- I'm - Give you my opportunity. I give you Tammy's.
I love you enough to do that.
I do that because I love you. 'cause
- You're my king.
- And this satisfied Paul
- For a little while.
Maybe there was a lot going on with him at this point,
he just lost his job.
His mother threw him out of his house.
So he was living with our family
and he just kept playing
that Christmas video over, over and over again.
He couldn't let go of it. He made me watch it.
He made our friends watch
- It working on re number.
What is that? 2, 3, 1.
Are there supposed to be two of you? Oh.
Oh, baby doll drunk. I think baby dolls.
Little drums. What do you think?
- Did everything you could that way, man,
it happened right here.
Hey, buck up buddy. We'll get you through this, okay? Yeah.
I'll tell you what you need to do.
You gotta get back on your feet. All right.
Look, I got a proposition for you. You need cash, right?
Yeah. Oh, I need a partner.
What are you talking about? Smuggling cigarettes.
It's good for, I don't know, three, $4,000 a month.
- What? All right, go on, buddy.
I think I might be interested.
- Did it bother you that this was illegal?
- Well, the money was great for the first time.
We could start making our own plans.
- Place bird. - But it was a little scary.
- Toronto. - He
could go,
woo. Ah,
- Put it here.
Alright. I can't fucking believe that. Oh my God. We did it.
- He and Nick started making runs across the border
a couple of times a month.
He used the money to rent us this beautiful
house in Port de Lucy.
It was a dream come true.
I love him. After Tammy. He was, I don't know.
- Yeah, he likes you. - Who's changed?
Hey guys, sometimes he was okay, but, oh shit.
Then he turned nasty. Clean that up. I will.
- Oh, I said do it. Do it now.
What did I just say? I said clean up the mess.
Yeah. So you do what? I say, look at this.
I get you this nice big beautiful house of your own.
You're gonna let the dog pee all over it.
Come on car. It's not your
- Fault, bud.
He'd say he hated me. He didn't care if he hurt me.
- And this was typical then in Fort Delucci
- Some of the time.
But we had good times too. I mean, we were free.
We were, we were on our own.
No,
- Go,
go go
- B.
Yeah. Get up. You really like it, huh? Kidding? I love it.
Come here sexy.
- What? Go?
- There was something else though.
- Go ahead. - You had asked,
when I learned he was raping other girls.
It was then in port to Lucy. He wasn't hiding it anymore.
It was like,
- Like what?
- Look, because of Tammy. He had the tape.
He knew I wasn't gonna turn him in. I mean, I, I couldn't.
Could I?
- How many girls? - Four, five. During that time?
I'm not sure. I at least four.
- Hey babe, where have - You been?
- I just raped a girl. Took this off of her.
- I am gonna burn it
lot,
- Babe.
- I want us to be happy like we used to be.
I think you hate me too much for that to happen.
- I don't want to hate you, princess.
- Sometimes you say you do.
- Yeah, but baby, that's why I'm angry.
- I love you Paul. You get married, aren't we?
I'm here, baby.
- Of course we are.
Look, I'm gonna go down to Florida
with the guys for like a week.
It'll be my bachelor party.
And then when I come back, it will all be good.
- Of course, I'll come back.
- So Paul left you at home and went to Florida
- For 10 days.
- And what did you do?
- Nothing. I just thought,
- Thought about what?
- Tammy? The girl he raped
before he went to Florida, who he was with in Florida
and how I could keep him interested in me,
make him happy.
- You still wanted that?
- I wanted him. I needed him. Thank God you're back.
I loved him. I missed you. Yeah. I
- Miss you too, baby.
- Here. Come on.
So you have a good time in Florida?
- Mm, baby. I'm really tired.
- Stop. Hey,
I fucked a girl named Tracy.
- Tracy. - If
she calls you, tell her you're my sister.
Okay.
- You're so bad. - You are really not mad.
- Oh, I just want you
to be happy and come home to me.
- You are amazing.
- He slept all day
and then that night around 10, he got up and got dressed.
- I'm going out with some friends. I'm gonna
take these just in case
- He hadn't with me since before he went to Florida.
I wanted to stop him to scream out and keep him with me,
but I couldn't, I didn't know what to say.
- I forgot my key again. I'm locked out.
- It's 1145 now. Are you sure?
- Yeah. I'll see you at work tomorrow.
- Okay.
- What are you doing? - I live here.
Oh, what about you?
- Well, I was just gonna break into your neighbor's house.
- Got a cigarette? Yeah, I've got one in the car.
- So what's your name? Tina McCarthy. What's yours?
- Don't worry about that.
- Shut up.
This is it.
- I've got somebody downstairs.
I dunno. You here for a while.
- Be
- Okay.
Let's see your smile. See your smile.
Say your name for camera.
- Tina McCarthy.
- That's good. Okay. Where's that smile, Tina? That's right.
Yeah. Okay. That's nice.
And keep that smile, keep smiling again. All right, Tina.
That looks nice. Now I want you to take off your shirt.
- That's right. That's right. That's right.
Slow. Slow. Nice and slow. Keep smiling. Yeah.
We're having fun.
- Don't hurt me.
Keep smiling.
That's nice. That's really nice.
No, please.
Hey, babe.
- Are you sure no one saw you
- When, - When you got her?
No. Don't worry. Nobody saw me.
I'm taking her up to our bedroom now.
- I am tired of being alone. Paul.
- You don't have to be.
- Come on.
- Nah, late time again.
- I have a little brother named Patrick.
I'm very close with him, please.
I, I really wanna see him. Oh,
- Okay.
Tina, I want you to take your clothes off for me again.
Yeah, that's what I like to see. That's what I like. Yeah.
Tina, how'd you like to have sex with two people?
It's another girl, Tina. Oh.
- Oh, please.
- Okay. You're gonna get a nice big kiss now.
A nice big kiss. Keep your eyes shut.
- You are doing good.
I just wanna go home and see my brother.
- Please. Let me go.
- You are in my good books now. You're doing real good.
Your eyes shut. What you do in the next little while is
gonna determine what we do with you.
Fuck. I said Keep your eyes shut. Fuck.
Fuck,
- Fuck.
Carla. Get over here.
- She fucking identify both of us. What?
Jail? Fucking 20 years.
Gotta kill her. What?
We don't have a fucking choice. I've gotta fucking her
stupid fucking bitch.
That's like a, a sleeping pill or something. Feeling.
- It's okay, sweetie.
- You gonna drink this?
I wanted you to keep your eyes shut.
Oh my God. My God.
My God.
My God. My God.
Cut up baby, baby.
Do
- I really tired?
We're trying to make any decisions right now.
We're gonna do something stupid. Okay?
- Just leave her here.
Where did she put her? Tell her
took a shower.
Honey,
- I had a great idea.
Tell me Cement. Cement. Yeah. We'll put the body in cement.
Figured we'd cut it up into eight little pieces.
That's eight little blocks easy.
- I couldn't do that. - Yeah, you could.
Carla, and you will. If I tell you
to Paul, I'm not doing that.
Fuck you, Carl. No. Fuck you.
Paul couldn't believe how light
that head was, just flopped it in the concrete.
That's the one with the head in it.
I had to paint it black
'cause the hair was kind of sticking out.
When it gets dark, I'm gonna need you
to help me load up the car.
- And still, you gave no thought to leaving him.
- I thought about it, but the wedding was two weeks away.
And I actually thought it might change him.
- What about you, Carla? Did what happened? Change you.
I
- I just wanted to get married.
Dear Paul, I love you so much.
Once we were an unbeatable team.
You and me against the world. I want our love back.
Even though we have our problems, I'm still
so much in love with you.
People think we're the perfect couple. We are.
We've just gotten sidetracked.
Let's have a fairytale marriage like we're meant to.
All my love, Carla,
- After the wedding, you went to Hawaii on your honeymoon.
- Paul beat the shit outta me. Why?
He wanted to get a girl. I didn't.
It was our honeymoon for Christ's sake.
- But on those honeymoon tapes
that Paul made, you're seemed very happy.
- Of course I did. I knew better than to fuck up his movies.
I'd learned that lesson.
- And on your return, you had a conversation with the Che,
Ben and Ma, I believe. Who were they?
- They were the original owners of
the vet clinic where I worked.
They'd sold it, but mall
and I were still really good friends.
They didn't like Paul very much,
but they loved me. And Buddy
- Steve and Becca called.
They're gonna come by later and visit.
- Oh, good. - Oh,
and they identified the body of that girl
that they found in the lake.
What girl in the lake?
Well, you know, the one
that was all chopped up and in some cement blocks.
Paul, are you all right? Yeah.
- Fine. I just slipped. He's okay.
He's just, he's just tired.
- Okay. That does it. I, I'm gonna finish this
up and then we're gonna leave.
You two are just too exhausted from that long flight.
Bye.
- Call - You.
It's fact so fucking stupid just now.
- Me. You're the one who fell down.
I was trying to cover for you. Christ.
You should have seen your face. It's a good thing.
Molly's as stupid as you are. Oh,
- What are we gonna do?
Nothing. It's not like they can trace it to us or anything.
- Even though he acted calm. I think he was really afraid.
- All right. Wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
- When Tina's body turned up so quickly,
Paul cooled it for a while.
- 1, 2, 3.
- And that next winter was a bad one.
It was hard for him to find what he wanted. Three.
So I guess he felt he had to improvise.
- Drink, drink, drink, drink.
- I don't feel so good, guys. I'm gonna go to bed.
- Can you believe that guy? His wife is
upstairs for God's sakes.
- Jesse, I don't feel so well,
- I like that introvert.
Hey, she's too much. You know what she said?
She said she's so jealous of Carla that she wants
to poison her toothbrush. Isn't that funny,
- Man?
Your fucking wife is upstairs, man. What are you doing?
Whoa. If you treat Carla like that,
why not give her to someone who'll treat her?
Right, bro.
- Doug, you don't fucking know anything about my marriage.
- Yeah, - Carla
- Doesn't give a shit.
- What do you mean she doesn't give a shit?
- You are a dumb bitch. You're so fucking bright.
You didn't even fucking finish high school.
You are a dumb, stupid bitch.
- That's it. You piece of shit. I'm here fucking faster.
Nips. Stop. Shit. It's all my fault. You don't know shirt.
Get the fuck outta my house. Get out of our house, Nick,
- You're a fucking idiot, man.
I helped you. I got you all of this for you.
But I hadn't set you up with those cigarettes, man.
Fucking ungrateful bastard. Get the
- Fuck out.
- We don't want - You. Get the fuck out. Get your
- Stupid - Bitch outta here. Fuck,
- Girl.
Get your coats. What's going on? This is too weird. Shit.
Shit. What the fuck was that about
- Jesus?
The long winner and lying low was eating away at him.
He was losing his friends one by one and didn't care.
I did though. I wanted him to settle down.
Dear Paul, tomorrow's good Friday and then Easter.
Do you know what that means?
Three glorious days for Carla curls to spend with her.
Wonderful king.
- There's a good one.
- What do you want me to do? - Do what we said.
- Excuse me. Hi. Can you give us directions?
- Sure. - Okay, great. We're looking for the pen center.
- You're gonna wanna go down the street
and when you get to the stop sign, take a right.
- I'm sorry. I'm so bad with directions.
Could you show me on a map?
- Sure. - Thank you. Okay, so we're right
- Here.
We're here. No, you're So,
you're saying you're up one block.
You're gonna go back down this street
and then we get to the stop sign here.
Be nice. No,
- Take her Ash.
Take her. Ow. Let's go with me. Let go. Ow.
- Ow. Please let go. You shut the fuck up.
I'm not afraid to use this. Shut the fuck up.
- Be quiet and car. Stay here.
Take care of the phones I want some time with.
- So that - Little scratch
- Must have happened when we were in the car.
- You okay sweetie? Doing all right.
Remember to smile for the camera. Okay.
- Sorry about that. I don't mean to hurt you.
Who's that?
- My boyfriend. Chris, come here.
You fucking him. No,
- I'm a good girl.
No, no, no. You're not a good girl. You're a slut. Say it.
I'm a slut. Yeah. You're my little St. Mary's sex slave.
My master. Yeah.
- I like this one.
- Oh, she's missing a shoe.
- Where's your shoe? Unit six. Please respond.
Court to main for a disturbance. Roger.
- It's back The nightmare.
We don't know that you parents
respond to Mr. And Mrs. Ross.
- Yeah.
- You are my little St. Mary's slut. That's who you are.
Say it. Fucking say it.
Say it like you did before.
We're having a little communication problem here.
I want you to talk to me. Okay? I know you can talk.
Say you love me. I love you. Paul. Say you love me.
Come here. Say, I love you, Paul. I love you, Paul.
I love you, Paul. I love you.
- What the fuck is wrong with you?
- Some things are worth time for.
- Oh yeah. Who am I?
- You're a bastard. What? What did you just say?
Stupid bitch.
- I'm sorry. You're my master. I'm sorry.
Shouldn't have said the things I said. No. Right. Should
- Be punished.
Yeah. Yeah.
I think you need, you need to be punished a little bit.
Yeah. My little Saint Mary needs
to be punished a little bit.
- I'll feel better too. Come here.
Who wants me? All the girls at St.
Mary's wanna
- Fuck you because you're the most powerful man in the world
and the most sexiest man in the world.
- Bitch,
- Get me some tissue.
What's this? What you supposed to do with that? Huh?
Stupid fucking bitch. Stupid fucking bitches.
Stupid fucking bitch.
Convention car.
Get something to eat.
Don't try anything. If she tries anything, use that.
- Does he do that? Too often?
All the time. Why do you stay?
You don't understand.
I know all of this. It's not your idea.
You don't understand
- Our little daughter.
She's a good girl. She's never done anything bad.
Please, hey, whatever you do,
- Get up. Get her.
- Don't hurt her. Get her. You just return her to us.
Give her a chance to live her life.
I swear, if you do, we'll try to help you out of this.
You know, I'm sure inside you're, you're a good person,
so please give her back to us.
Please, please,
- Honey, if you see this, don't worry.
Come on. We'll find you. I promise.
Be patient and be brave.
- Hey, listen to this.
- I wrote this. It's pretty good, huh?
- I'm going to take a shower.
- You know, death is nothing to be afraid of.
- I'm not afraid. My parents love me,
and Chris loves me.
And you can't hurt me.
- You can't hurt.
- What did you feel at that moment, Carla watching her die?
Nothing. I, nothing.
- I was thinking about how easy it was to kill her.
Not like the first time it was. It was easy.
I knew it wasn't gonna stop.
- Paul says, you killed Kaitlyn
- Ross - Beating her with the mallet that he left you on.
- You know that's not true.
- Many people think it is the truth.
Carla, these Toronto detectives think you are the
murderer, not Paul.
So does the FBI profiler and the RCMP supervisor.
Well, fuck them.
Is there anything you'd like to add to that
- Car?
- I didn't kill anybody.
- What about Tammy Carla, fuck you,
- 12 I
- Green Ribbon Task Force formed only a few days ago have
indicated that they now believe that the murderer
of Kaitlyn Ross may not have been working alone.
Police now believe that the murderer
and a second man may be working together.
Police continue to look for a cream colored Camaro.
- Oh, yeah. You fucking idiots.
You don't know the difference between a Nissan
and a Camaro and Carlos's.
Officially a fucking man. That's really fucking bright.
- What the fuck?
- Hi, are you Paul Bernardo?
- Yeah. Can I help you? You wanna come in?
- We're investigating the death of Kaitlyn Voss.
Your name surfaced.
- Well, I can't say I'm too surprised.
I mean, this happened before up in Toronto when they were
investigating the Scarborough Rapist.
- You still married Mr. Bernardo?
- Yeah. - Is your wife home?
No, she's, she's working. She, where does she work?
- St. Catherine's Veterinary Clinic.
- And what do you do? - I'm an accountant.
- And where do you work? - Actually, between jobs right now
- And the afternoon of April 16th.
That was the Thursday before Easter.
Do you remember where you were?
- Hmm. Oh yeah.
I was right here. I was working on my music.
Got a little studio right back there.
- Well, that's about it.
- Well, let me know if there's
anything else I can do to help.
- Good luck.
- Fuck fucking tapes.
- They had no idea. I was cool as a cucumber baby.
Cool. As a cucumber. Are you sure? Yeah, I'm sure.
I wish you could have seen it. Hmm.
- Yo,
I'm the cracker rapper.
The lady attacker.
The coppers think they know me,
but the coppers, they can blow me.
'cause the Scarborough raper,
that's just the tip of this caper.
You are not even smiling.
- Yeah, I am. - No, you're not.
- Yep, - I am. No, you're not.
I'm trying to lighten things up here.
And you just stand there like a fucking stump.
- I'm sorry. - Yeah, you
- Are.
Sorry.
- He was really afraid now that they were onto him,
and for me, it just got worse and worse.
Whoa. It came
to a head when we were crossing the border in July.
- Okay. You two been going
back and forth quite a bit lately.
What have you been doing in the us? I'm asking
- Her.
We have friends that are getting married.
- I'd like you both to get outta the car.
- Open the trunk,
Roger.
All right. Thank you. Thank you.
Yeah.
- Fucking idiot could have gone to jail because of you.
- Fucking stupid fucking bitch.
Ever fucking do something stupid?
- What are you doing, bitch?
Oh, that's really sweet car.
- Hello? Molly car is at you. Are you all right?
No. Did he beat you up again? Can he come?
Hold on. We're leaving right now. Okay. Fuck
- You car.
Fuck you. You're fat. You're ugly.
You're stupid. I fucking hate you.
You stupid fucking cunt. Fuck you, Carla. Get out.
Are you okay? Oh, look, it's Molly
and Danny here to rescue the stupid bitch.
Get the fuck out. Stay out. Get outta my house.
Fucking hate your guts.
- I don't take these to the cops.
- Get the fuck out, Carla. Get the fuck outta my house.
Come on, Carla. Let's go, princess.
- Wait, - Princess.
Sweetie, please come here just for a second.
Don't do it, Carla. I'm calm. See, I'm totally calm.
I just need to talk to you just for a second.
Don't listen to him. Come on. Come on.
Don't leave like this. Please am.
- Come on, Carla.
It's okay. Mom.
- Fucking crazy. Whatcha doing? You can't leave me.
- I'm leaving. - You're fucking insane.
I can wreck your life forever.
- Forever. Car, I will show your parents the videotape
of you killing Tammy, your sister.
You think they're gonna welcome you into their
home with open arms then?
Huh? Do you think about it? Think about it.
Real fucking hard car.
- Come on, Carla.
- Why does it have to be like this?
Why can't we just start over? Hey,
- It doesn't, we can,
Carla.
Oh, isn't that sweet?
Come bed, honey.
Come to bed, honey,
please.
Paul,
- Please.
Paul, do you
really think that you can pull something like that
and not have to pay for it?
Huh? Put these on.
What is that? Put them on.
Get on your knees, bitch.
- Hurt your back.
That's right. That's fucking right. Yeah. You like that?
- Shut the fuck up. Don't make a fucking sound.
Yeah, that's right.
You shut the fuck up. Shut
- The fuck up.
You wanna fucking die, bitch. Yeah. You want to die.
Aren't you fucking nice to you? You know that?
Aren't you fucking nice to you?
- You are gonna stay down here tonight,
you and Tina McCarthy.
- What the fuck do you think you're doing? Huh?
- Hello? - Is this Molly Jehovah's?
- Yes. - You're Carla's friend,
right? Who
- Is this?
- A friend of hers at the clinic. Carla needs you right now.
Please
- Come here. Oh my God.
- I'm okay. You are not okay.
The people at work, I told them I was in a car accident.
I have to finish my shift at work,
and then I have to get a couple things from home.
Just come with me now.
Just come and get me tonight at nine 30.
Call us to go across the border and I'll be alone.
I'll be ready. Really? I will, but I wasn't ready.
The longer I waited, the more I thought about
what he would do to me if I crossed him again.
I was terrified. He'll kill me if I leave.
- No, no, Carla, we'll find you a place that's safe.
I promise. But he'll find me.
We're gonna take you to the hospital
and when you better, I have a cousin
who owns some apartments in Brampton.
Pop doesn't know them.
- Okay? Okay. Okay.
- The doctor says it's the worst case
of spousal abuse he's ever seen. We're going to book him,
- But he won't be in jail.
- Well, overnight probably, but that's all.
She can get a restraining order if she needs one.
- Hey, babe, I'm home.
Car
Carla car.
Fuck.
- They only kept him one night. He was out the next day.
- So the arrested no good.
- Not for me, but I think it renewed their interest in Paul.
They rechecked the DNA samples Paul had given
them two years earlier.
- Detective Kirby here, - You're not gonna believe this.
I have a DNA match for three of the victims
of the Scarborough rapes.
It's that guy that they arrested in St. Catherine's.
- Bernardo. - You've got your Scarborough rapist.
- But they didn't have him. Not yet. Not legally.
- Yeah, it's - Me. They needed more evidence.
They just got confirmation and all they
could do start watching him.
- Let's put him under 24 hour surveillance
and have a wiretap authorized.
I feel like I'm living in a fucking fishbowl.
I don't even answer the phone. It's fucking tapped.
- You gotta get yourself together, man. Get a haircut.
Clean up. Get a job,
and tell the judge you were wrong for beating Carla.
Oh, fuck you, Doug. Hey, listen, man,
I'm trying to be your friend.
You know? If you're gonna freak out at me
and be an asshole, I'll leave.
You. Got it? Yeah.
- Sorry. It's just what?
What do you think of Tammy
- Dying?
I don't know. I mean, it's, it's kind of weird, I guess.
Kind of fucking strange fucking 16-year-old girl
just dying like that.
- Yeah. 16-year-old girls. Don't just fucking
- Die, Doug.
Use your fucking head.
Carla killed her and I have it on fucking
- Videotape.
She fucking pulled the trigger. Man.
You have Carla killing Tammy on videotape.
- Is it live? Yes. Is it Mex? Yes.
I have it in fucking live in color.
And I'll tell you this right now,
Doug. If I go down this fucking
- Assault charge,
I'm gonna bring everybody else down with me.
Hey, take it easy, man. You don't know Doug,
but if you fucking, if you really fucking love somebody,
you will do anything to get them back.
Even if you have to fucking sink 'em.
- Oh, if she were to come back,
I would love her with all my heart.
- You understand that? Anything you say now,
it's called attorney-client privilege.
I can't do anything to hurt you. I can only help you.
- Now, - What is it exactly that we're talking about
- The murders of Tina McCarthy and Kaitlyn Ross. You
- Have information about - That?
I have more than information.
I didn't do it, but I was there.
If I help, can you get me immunity?
- Look, why don't you just start at the beginning
and tell me everything.
- How did you feel, Carla, after seeing the attorney
- Like for the first time?
Paul wasn't controlling me, and it felt really good.
I felt like there was this whole world out there,
a world I'd forgotten about.
It was there again. Now it felt
- Great.
Hey, beautiful. Wanna dance? Okay.
- Hey car. I
know this won't sound very good
because of the kind of kind of recording it is
and I've been crying and stuff, but this is for you, pal.
I
I still love you
- And I
know that I, I treated you like such
shit, and I'm so,
- I'm so, so sorry.
I wish I had made love to you, looking at you in the face.
And I wish, I wish we
- Had had a kid.
I love you, ma.
Oh God,
I miss you so much.
Why Carla?
Why not? Hmm.
- It felt really good to forget
to grab some happiness again and not let go of it.
I mean, I felt like I was
18 again before I met Paul.
A chance to start over.
- But you couldn't start over, could you?
- No,
- But I tried.
- Hello? Is this Paul Bernardo of 57th Bayview Lane?
Yeah. Who's this? A possible business venture for you?
Who is this? My name is, what do you want?
I'm not interested.
- What did I say? You looked like you. You said I
- You look like that.
Acting Valley Regional Police finally made an
arrest in the Scarborough rape cases eight years
after the first rapes occurred.
The man in custody is 28-year-old Paul Bernardo.
He was arrested late this afternoon at 57 Bayview
Bernardo's home in St.
Catherine's, which he rented with a female companion,
believed to be his wife, Carla Homolka,
who is still being sought by police for questioning.
- Oh my - God. Anyone with information
regarding Carla Homolka is urged to contact police.
We can only hope that this arrest will prove
to be the beginning of the final chapter of this story,
and that some sense of closure may be brought to those
who have lived in terror for so long.
- I had gone out to get something to eat.
When I came back, Carla was sitting in the living room
crying, and I ran upstairs
and Kaitlyn was dead.
She was lying there with a cord tied
around her neck and there was blood in her mouth.
- Isn't it true that when alone with her,
Kaitlyn became very upset when she saw her father on TV
and she tried to escape,
and in the ensuing struggle, you hit her
with a mallet in the frenzy.
Kaitlyn twisted the noose
around her neck and strangled herself.
- That is a total lie.
I've never hit anybody in my life, Mr. Siegel.
- And when Paul came home, Kaitlyn was dead on the floor.
- That's a lie. Paul is trying to twist everything
so he gets off for the murder
of Kaitlyn Ross, but he did it.
- I know. I've done some really terrible things
and I've caused a lot of sadness
and sorrow to a lot of people,
and I'm really sorry about that.
And I know that I deserved to be punished,
but I didn't kill those girls.
- They convicted Paul on two counts of murder.
They gave life in prison without the possibility of parole.
I plea bargained and was given 12 years.
Victims' rights groups all over Canada protested.
They thought the sentence was too light.
When will I know the results
- Parole board meets in 10 days?
- You think I killed Kaitlyn Raw, don't you?
- My report addresses what you might
or might not do in the future, not what you did
or didn't do in the past.
- I'm not a psychopath. You know?
I am safe inside anyway.
I say there are people outside waiting
to kill me when I get out.
It's probably just as well this way.
- Goodbye, Carla.
- Bye.
- I know there are people out there
who think I killed Kaitlyn Ross and Tina McCarthy.
I didn't, but Dr. Arnold was right.
I did kill somebody. I killed my little sister.
How can anyone ever be forgiven for that?
I think about what I did every day.
I really do.
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