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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,640 This programme contains images of the aftermath of World War II and the suicide of Adolf Hitler 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,920 In this room we have a lot of World War II items. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,400 {\an8}This is where some of the Hitler items are housed. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,200 This is Hitler's tea set. 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,680 A lot of American soldiers sourced very unusual artefacts. 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,920 We have some Eva Braun items down there. We have a Hitler shirt. 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,440 {\an8}This is the swatch, and this is the blood stain. 8 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:35,520 {\an8}That whole little corner here is all Hitler's blood. 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,440 The American soldier just took out a knife, cut a piece off, 10 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:41,720 put it in his pocket, and off he went. 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,000 He didn't think a lot about it. 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,120 He didn't think, 80 years later, people were going to 13 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:47,080 try to extract DNA off of it. 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,720 Responsible for some of humanity's worst atrocities, 15 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,080 Adolf Hitler is one of the most studied people in history. 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,240 But despite this, he remains an enigma. 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,720 Because he's so guarded about his own personal history, 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:14,200 there remain questions that continue to puzzle historians. 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,880 His ancestry is shrouded in mystery. 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,080 Hitler appears to have felt ashamed about his family. 21 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,000 There's been this rumour for a really long time that Hitler had 22 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,800 Jewish ancestry through his grandfather. 23 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,480 His psychological state is hotly debated. 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,920 There's a very long history of trying to diagnose Hitler, 25 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:37,920 who is one of the most enigmatic figures who ever lived. 26 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:40,680 Some have denied that he had any illness at all. 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,320 I've always argued that there's good medical evidence to the contrary. 28 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,440 His sex life is a secret he took to his grave. 29 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,480 He didn't seem to have the same libido 30 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,880 men of his age would have had. 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,680 And he remains the subject of persistent rumours about his health. 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,440 Hitler felt uncomfortable in his own body. 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,680 He didn't want to undress in front of anyone ever. 34 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:09,720 Now, 80 years since his death, can science provide answers? 35 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,560 Can a blood-stained piece of fabric unlock 36 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,040 the secrets contained in Hitler's DNA? 37 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,600 We've found something really interesting. 38 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,480 When these findings emerged, I was simply flabbergasted. 39 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,040 Can we finally understand history's most notorious tyrant? 40 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,480 This was how Adolf Hitler wanted to be seen in 41 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,120 the 1935 propaganda film, Triumph of the Will. 42 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:59,400 {\an8}This was a documentary film commissioned by Hitler himself. 43 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:04,520 {\an8}This is the staging of Hitler as the Messiah, as the Chosen One, 44 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,960 {\an8}as the person who's descending from heaven to earth 45 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,840 in order to save Germany. 46 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,960 {\an8}It's natural for people to want a saviour, 47 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,960 {\an8}and Hitler presented himself as the Messiah. 48 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,520 He was the man who had the answers. 49 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,720 Promising to create a National Socialist Reich that would last 50 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:05,240 a thousand years, Hitler led Germany into its darkest chapter. 51 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:21,000 By April 1945, the thousand-year Reich was in ruins. 52 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,200 His Nazi regime was collapsing, and the Fuhrer himself 53 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,280 was a physical and mental wreck. 54 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,840 Hitler is increasingly faced with the question, 55 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,440 what will his fate be? 56 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,360 He decides before the Soviets take Berlin... 57 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:48,600 ...to take his own life. 58 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,480 As the Third Reich crumbled, Hitler's personal valet 59 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:02,160 Heinz Linge bore witness to the tyrant's final moments. 60 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,160 Mr Linge, is Hitler really dead? 61 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:10,640 Yes. I was the last one who said goodbye to him, 62 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,880 and the first, after his suicide, to enter the room in the bunker. 63 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,840 And how did he kill himself, Mr Linge? 64 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,040 He shot himself, and Eva Braun took poison. 65 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,400 Hitler was determined that his most intimate secrets would die with him. 66 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:36,240 He gave me the order five days before to get gasoline 67 00:05:36,280 --> 00:05:40,360 to burn the bodies. We burned them in the garden. 68 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:47,440 Hitler made sure that his body would be destroyed 69 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:52,520 so that there would be no traces left that would contradict 70 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,280 the artificial version of himself that had been created. 71 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,400 But while his body was destroyed, Hitler left something behind 72 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,240 that at the time would have seemed inconsequential - 73 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:12,440 his blood. 74 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,320 Now, an international team of experts will test 75 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,760 the DNA in this blood-stained swatch. 76 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,360 And if it does belong to Hitler, they will attempt a world first... 77 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:29,760 ...to sequence his genome. 78 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,000 I am a geneticist who specialises in ancient and forensic DNA. 79 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,640 I'm probably best known for having led the genetic 80 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,400 {\an8}and statistical identification of the remains of King Richard III, 81 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,760 who was found in a car park in Leicester in 2012. 82 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,520 I'm a historian of Nazi Germany, based in the University of Potsdam. 83 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,440 We already have historical documentation about Hitler, 84 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,520 {\an8}but we don't have something like this - his DNA. 85 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,760 This will change the way we think about Hitler, 86 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,880 add to our understanding of him and be something that we'll be 87 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,000 talking about for a long time to come. 88 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,200 I think this is going to be a really interesting 89 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,360 and potentially difficult case. 90 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,680 I often collaborate with people in Germany 91 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,960 and they would not touch this. 92 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,560 Anyone we went to in Europe wouldn't touch it. 93 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,520 That gives us some idea of the shadow that Hitler 94 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:40,480 still casts over Europe, so we have to tread very carefully. 95 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,200 I really agonised about whether or not I wanted to be involved. 96 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,600 And that's because of who it is. 97 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,600 But it's also an extremely interesting project 98 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,920 because of who he is. 99 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:58,840 There's been huge amounts of interest in his mental health. 100 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,720 And we know that there's a genetic component 101 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,680 to psychiatric and neurodevelopmental disorders. 102 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:11,080 But we know it's about environment and upbringing and so on. 103 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,480 No matter what we find, that would never excuse 104 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:17,960 anything that Hitler did. 105 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,560 People with psychiatric disorders do not go on to do 106 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,280 the sorts of things that Hitler did. 107 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:32,640 My concern is that by not approaching this, 108 00:08:32,680 --> 00:08:38,960 it makes him and DNA almost like a taboo, and I think that's wrong. 109 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,280 We need to demystify what we can and cannot tell 110 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,960 from somebody's DNA. 111 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,080 80 years of scientific breakthroughs have transformed our understanding 112 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,240 of human genetics. 113 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,280 The famous helix structure of DNA was identified soon after 114 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,880 the end of World War II. 115 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,120 Over the decades that followed, research progressed into its uses, 116 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,720 particularly in forensics. 117 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,600 And at the dawn of the 21st century, the Human Genome Project 118 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,400 made a major breakthrough. 119 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,200 We are here to celebrate the completion of 120 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,960 the first survey of the entire human genome. 121 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,880 With the power of this discovery comes, of course, 122 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,200 the responsibility to use it wisely. 123 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,880 Our individual genomes contain countless clues 124 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,880 to our propensity for physical features and disease, 125 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,440 for psychiatric and neurodevelopmental traits 126 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,080 and to our ancestry. 127 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,160 And because DNA remains long after we die, 128 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,000 geneticists can now shine new light on figures from history. 129 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,840 So in terms of doing genetic analysis like this, 130 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:58,640 provenance, understanding where the sample has come from is key. 131 00:09:58,680 --> 00:10:02,320 So does the sample said to be from Adolf Hitler's sofa 132 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,080 stand up to scrutiny? 133 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,120 The grandson of the American soldier who cut 134 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,240 the swatch from the sofa has been traced to Italy. 135 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,760 So, Erik, this swatch that we are trying to get DNA out of 136 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,560 was from your grandfather. He was the one who got it. 137 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,480 My grandfather was the information officer under General Eisenhower 138 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,680 during the war. 139 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:32,280 {\an8}And so he had access to people in places that very few people had. 140 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,000 When the allied forces came together in Berlin, 141 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,160 he was there, and he would have been, I believe, 142 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,120 in the first group of Americans that entered Hitler's bunker. 143 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,080 I don't know how long after Hitler killed himself 144 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,360 that visit would have occurred. 145 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,000 The bodies were gone, but there was blood on the sofa. 146 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:06,120 My grandfather cut the swatch of blood. 147 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,400 It's such a powerful memento. 148 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,800 For him, it was a true symbol of the death of Hitler 149 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,040 and the end of the war. 150 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,600 80 years later, we're sitting across the table from one another 151 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,200 talking about the possibility of getting DNA. 152 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,080 You know, good on you, grandad. 153 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,320 ERIK CHUCKLES 154 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,480 It seems that the swatch itself came from Hitler's bunker. 155 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:41,000 But does the blood on the fabric belong to Hitler himself? 156 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,920 To find out, a forensic geneticist will collect a sample. 157 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,760 {\an8}We like to call ourselves the Island of Misfit Cases, 158 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,120 {\an8}where all the most difficult things go when they're stuck. 159 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,840 So over here is the swatch and right there is the blood. 160 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,360 Excellent, yeah, you can definitely see the discolouration. Yeah. 161 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,760 I've done a lot of sampling in my life, 162 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,600 but this one brought me some anxiety. 163 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,320 I'm not going to even lie about it. 164 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:19,480 Yeah, classic red-brown staining. It looks like a real solid sample. 165 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,560 When you're working on something with historical relevance, 166 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,280 it's a destructive process. 167 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,480 You want to take a sample that is likely 168 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,520 to give you some information, but with every kind of 169 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:35,360 increase in size of that, you're destroying more and more 170 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,880 of the original object. 171 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,200 {\an8}I'm going to take just a small little... 172 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,320 {\an8}About that, is that OK? Yep. 173 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,800 {\an8}When he handles something this historic, you know, 174 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,440 {\an8}when you see it happen, it's, um... It's definitely stressful. 175 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,320 What we need is going to vary on the sample type, 176 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,400 how diluted it was, how old it was. 177 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,120 Just making sure that everything's sealed. 178 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,720 We don't want anything to get in or get out. 179 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,320 You can certainly tell that you had a blood stain there. 180 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,680 It's just how much is that impacted by the age? 181 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,960 You're talking about a very small sample. 182 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,640 In theory, everything will work out just fine, 183 00:13:18,680 --> 00:13:21,640 but until you get in the lab, you just don't know. 184 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,720 So is it really Hitler's blood? 185 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,840 And if it is, will the DNA reveal anything 186 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,240 after degrading for 80 years? 187 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,520 A swatch of blood-stained fabric cut from a sofa in 1945 188 00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:48,800 has been taken for analysis to determine if it is 189 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,160 Adolf Hitler's blood. 190 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,920 {\an8}What we're desperate to know is whether or not 191 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,880 {\an8}we've got enough DNA that we can even do the analysis, 192 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,720 because without that, that's the end of the project. 193 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:11,160 After multiple rejections from European institutions, 194 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,640 uncomfortable testing anything associated with Hitler, 195 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:19,000 an American forensics lab will work on identifying any DNA in 196 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,160 the sample taken from the museum. 197 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,800 We have had samples much older than 80 years that we've tested 198 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,080 and been able to obtain really good results from. 199 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,320 {\an8}But at the same time, if it is not kept well, 200 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,400 {\an8}we have samples five or six years old that are so degraded 201 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,400 that it is very difficult to get usable information from. 202 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:52,400 So our extraction process begins with adding specific chemicals 203 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,760 that reveal DNA from deep within the nucleus. 204 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,640 We want DNA and water and that's it. 205 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,080 So far, this looks like a sample that could have some blood on it. 206 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,960 It's more red than the fabric is. 207 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,800 Oh, my gut feeling is that there's something there that is not just 208 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,720 an empty piece of fabric. 209 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,840 It's ready to go on our instrument. 210 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,240 So this will tell us how much DNA is present in our sample. 211 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,320 Your first steps are doing the DNA extraction 212 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,880 and then you want to determine is this human blood 213 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,120 and is it from a male? 214 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,880 It is one of the most nerve-racking parts of this process. 215 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,200 So, results are... 216 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,480 ...there is human DNA. It appears to be male. 217 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,920 Degradation shows that it has failed, which is expected. 218 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,560 We expect DNA from 80 years ago to be degraded. 219 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,120 So that is a good sign that this is very likely the DNA 220 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,840 that you're expecting it to be and not some new 221 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,600 and fresh contaminant. 222 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,880 So the initial findings seem positive. 223 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,240 The sample is blood, it is from a man, 224 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,920 and the DNA is not recent. 225 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,160 But how can genetics confirm it to be Hitler's blood? 226 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,120 So the piece of DNA that we use to do the identification 227 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,040 that this is Hitler is the Y chromosome. 228 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,800 We humans, we have got 23 pairs of chromosomes. 229 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,200 You get one half of each pair comes from mum 230 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,280 and the other half comes from dad. 231 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,040 Chromosome pairs number one to 22, they're the same between 232 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,680 men and women and they're known as our autosomes. 233 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,920 But we've got chromosome pair number 23 here, 234 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,160 those are known as are sex chromosomes. 235 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:59,880 So women have got two copies of this rather large X chromosome. 236 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:01,440 Men have got an X chromosome, 237 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,440 but they've also got this tiny little Y chromosome. 238 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,040 But it's going to be really important for this project, 239 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,360 because the Y chromosome that a man has, 240 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,960 it comes down to him down through the male line. 241 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,960 So if we can find a male line relative of Hitler 242 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,960 and look at their Y chromosome type, 243 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,120 we can see if it matches that from the DNA from the sample. 244 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,480 In Belgium, journalist Jean-Paul Mulders has spent years 245 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,320 tracking down Hitler's blood relations. 246 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,360 About 15 years ago, I read that strange story of a man who, 247 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,640 during the '70s, claimed to be Hitler's son. 248 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:58,360 {\an8}My initial thoughts was this must be bullshit, in fact. 249 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,920 People lie, but DNA doesn't. 250 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,600 I had to find out whether it was true or not. 251 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,960 Using stamps licked by Hitler's supposed son, 252 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,520 Jean-Paul obtained a DNA sample. 253 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,960 Having the DNA of Loret is one thing, 254 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,960 obtaining the DNA of Hitler relatives is another one. 255 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,360 Working with a genealogist, Jean-Paul began to identify 256 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,320 living male relatives of Hitler. 257 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:30,920 You cannot contact them. 258 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:35,000 If you call them by phone, they simply do not answer. 259 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:39,240 So I started to visit relatives of Hitler in Austria 260 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,400 and ask them for a DNA sample. 261 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,680 Some of them react aggressive and said, 262 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,960 "I don't want to have anything to do with this." 263 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,280 I thought at that moment, it won't succeed. 264 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,320 We are here for nothing and we will go back with empty hands. 265 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,960 We visited one more relative of Hitler. 266 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,240 He was very friendly and he said, "Oh, a bit of saliva? 267 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,360 "Is that all you want?" 268 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,680 He took the swab and put it in his mouth 269 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,280 and gave it back. "Here you are, have a nice day." 270 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,200 And it was a nice day, because I had the DNA of the relative. 271 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,680 The results were crystal clear. 272 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,320 It didn't match with the saliva on the stamps belonging 273 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:23,760 to Jean-Marie Loret. 274 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,360 So Jean-Marie Loret was not at all the son of Adolf Hitler. 275 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,760 Now, many years later, this sample provides a definitive way 276 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,120 to test whether the blood from the sofa is in fact Hitler's. 277 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,840 So let me show you the Y chromosome results. 278 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,160 This is the male line relative from JP Mulder's sample. 279 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,760 And then let's bring you the one in from the swatch. 280 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,400 Look at that. 281 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,720 There's an exact match between the male-line relative 282 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,680 and the DNA from the sample from the swatch. 283 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,000 They're identical. 284 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,480 So does that mean that 285 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,320 the blood sample really does belong to Hitler? 286 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:17,040 This is a really important moment in any investigation like this. 287 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,040 You know what, Alex? 288 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,120 It looks like we've got Adolf Hitler's DNA. 289 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,160 When you can kind of go, yep, it's him. 290 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,040 We've got him. I'm so pleased with the result. 291 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,200 I feel like we can go forward with confidence, really. 292 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,200 For the first time in history, 293 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,680 Adolf Hitler's DNA has been identified. 294 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,080 The question now, 295 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:45,400 is there enough DNA left after 80 years 296 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,920 to reveal anything useful about history's most studied man? 297 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,680 Once we're alive, we have got really nice, 298 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,960 long strands of DNA, 299 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:02,080 and we can sequence modern DNA incredibly easily. 300 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:05,480 After death, our DNA starts to degrade. 301 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,920 It starts to be cut into smaller 302 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,600 and smaller fragments until eventually there is nothing 303 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:13,880 left to sequence. 304 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,240 Can DNA offer answers where historians have 305 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,960 so far failed? 306 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,800 And will this ground-breaking 307 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,720 evidence reveal what Hitler was so keen to hide? 308 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,280 After several rounds of sequencing, 309 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,360 the Hitler DNA sample has been rebuilt into this, 310 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:50,800 a reconstruction of the whole genome of history's most enigmatic tyrant. 311 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:55,360 So this is it, this is Adolf Hitler's genome. 312 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,480 So this reconstruction is an incredible achievement. 313 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,800 How close do you think it is to the entire thing? 314 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,720 We have got some gaps, 315 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,920 but we've managed to get pretty good coverage for 316 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,160 the genome, so I'm as happy as we can be. 317 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,920 And we can start to get information about his health. 318 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,400 You cannot see evil in somebody's DNA, 319 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,360 but you can say things about whether or not they are genetically 320 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,400 predisposed towards certain conditions. 321 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,480 We're looking for something about Hitler's ancestry, 322 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:36,760 and we're looking for mutations in his DNA, insertions, deletions. 323 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,600 It brings a completely new slant, a new angle, 324 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,680 on someone who was responsible for 325 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,880 the most terrible crimes committed in modern history. 326 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,760 It's really an irony that Hitler, 327 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,160 who had his own body destroyed, 328 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,120 did not manage to conceal his DNA, 329 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,680 and that now in the 21st century, 330 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,480 we can try to recover some of 331 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,120 the secrets that Hitler wanted to conceal himself. 332 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,720 So how does this new genetic information interact 333 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,280 with what we already know? 334 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,440 Can the genome shine new light on the dimmest reaches of 335 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,920 the Hitler story, his early life? 336 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,960 Hitler was born in a place called Braunau am Inn, 337 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,600 on the border of Germany and Austria. 338 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,280 {\an8}He wrote in his memoir slash manifesto, 339 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,480 Mein Kampf, that this was fate, 340 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:38,240 that it was his destiny to unite these two nations, 341 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,720 Austria and Germany. 342 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,280 He famously started Mein Kampf 343 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,880 with this sanitised version of his childhood, 344 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,400 while in reality, 345 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:54,400 he really had a lot of adverse life experiences. 346 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,560 He was surrounded by death from an early age. 347 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,080 When he was 13 years old, his father died 348 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:05,320 and at the age of 18, his mother died. 349 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,040 Hitler's mother, Klara, had to bury not one, 350 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,360 not two, but four of her children who died at very, 351 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,720 very young ages from diphtheria. 352 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,960 Adolf and his younger sister, Paula, 353 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,680 were literally the only two survivors. 354 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:29,120 Combined with that, his father, Alois Hitler, 355 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:36,280 was a very physically violent alcoholic, and he beat Adolf. 356 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,680 Alois took every opportunity 357 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:44,240 to exert his authority relentlessly on the young Adolf. 358 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,040 We don't want to say anyone who's been abused or anyone who has 359 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,000 experienced neglect in their early life is 360 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,920 going to end up doing terrible things. 361 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,520 That's not the case. But these early adverse life 362 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,120 experiences do play a critical role. 363 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:08,000 Hate often does come from this sense of feeling angry, 364 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:14,400 {\an8}feeling badly treated, feeling alienated from society, 365 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,480 maybe as a result of early negative experiences. 366 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,560 This is the former village 367 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,920 of Dollersheim in Lower Austria, 368 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,000 where generations of Hitler's ancestors lived 369 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,760 and died. Today, almost nothing remains. 370 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,760 We're here in what is left of Dollersheim, 371 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,920 which as you can see is now a military training area, 372 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,040 but up until 1938, was a thriving community. 373 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,560 One of the descendants of this community is Bernhard Lehr. 374 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,440 Despite its importance in Hitler's family story, 375 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,400 the German army was ordered to forcibly resettle all 2,000 376 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:52,240 villagers before bombing their homes as part of training exercises. 377 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,320 Could it be that Hitler was trying 378 00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:34,000 to destroy evidence around his true ancestry? 379 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,480 So where does this rumour come from that Hitler had Jewish ancestry? 380 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,680 It's been around for a very long time, 381 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,640 since the late 1920s, early 1930s, 382 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,120 that Hitler's grandmother, Maria Schickelgruber, 383 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,720 had worked for a period of time in a Jewish household 384 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,600 and had got pregnant. Foreign media got hold of this, 385 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,080 made a big thing out of it, 386 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:02,680 and Hitler was clearly quite concerned about 387 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,960 the potential damage it would do. 388 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,960 And therefore he took steps to publish 389 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,880 an official version of his family tree, 390 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,480 which made clear that there was no Jewish ancestry. 391 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:19,040 Can Hitler's DNA shed light on the ancestry of his grandfather? 392 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,600 This is where the Y chromosome data actually backs up that Nazi version 393 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,600 of his family tree, because the Y chromosome 394 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,080 is showing that Hitler is indeed Hitler, 395 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:31,240 or he wouldn't get that DNA match with 396 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,200 the male line relative. If he had Jewish ancestry, 397 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,840 that match wouldn't be there. 398 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,920 So we can actually put that rumour about Jewish ancestry 399 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,240 to bed based on the DNA. Exactly, now we know for certain. 400 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,760 DNA has answered one of 401 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,080 the biggest questions about Hitler's ancestry. 402 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:54,480 But can it offer new insights into why he may have behaved as he did? 403 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,240 About 20 years ago, I studied Hitler's life. 404 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,040 There's a vast amount 405 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,480 of information available that was collected 406 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,400 and I was absolutely convinced at that time that he had 407 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,160 a whole variety of neurodevelopmental conditions, 408 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,400 and I published on this. 409 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,480 Many people obviously challenged me, 410 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,480 they didn't like it, they disagreed with it. 411 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,120 So are there any clues as 412 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,840 to whether he was affected by any conditions and if so, 413 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,240 what they might have been? 414 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,640 This is Linz, Austria's third city, 415 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,920 and the closest thing that Hitler had to a hometown. 416 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:49,320 {\an8}This is a plaque that commemorates that this hotel was once a school 417 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,120 and that one of its most famous schoolchildren was 418 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,000 the philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein. 419 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,840 However, this plaque fails to mention 420 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,080 the other most famous schoolchild 421 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,880 to attend this school, Adolf Hitler. 422 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,160 Hitler had dreams of being an artist, 423 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,320 and he talks about this from something like 424 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,360 the age of 12. 425 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,680 He said his father was absolutely adamant that this would not be 426 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:24,280 the case. As a school pupil, he was quite idle and lazy. 427 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,840 He didn't make any effort in school, 428 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,600 he didn't concentrate, he didn't do his homework. 429 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,600 He was unteachable. Nobody could tell him anything. 430 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,440 So whilst he was quite intelligent and clever, 431 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,360 if the subject didn't interest him, he just entirely neglected it. 432 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,680 Was Hitler just an unhappy, absent-minded child? 433 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,960 Or does his DNA indicate something more fundamental 434 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,080 that might help explain his behaviour? 435 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,360 Hitler's DNA results have been sent to 436 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,440 a world-leading team at Aarhus University 437 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,240 to assess his genetic propensity for psychiatric 438 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,960 and neurodevelopmental conditions. 439 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,440 We are doing genetic analysis where we are looking at thousands 440 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,320 of individuals with a psychiatric condition by using 441 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,720 something called the polygenic score. 442 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,280 A polygenic score assesses an individual's genetic markers for 443 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,360 a certain condition or disease. 444 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,080 It compares these with a large population sample 445 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,720 to chart the individual's likelihood of having the condition. 446 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,280 We were very surprised when we saw that he was such 447 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,280 an outlier on several conditions. 448 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,560 We found that actually very astonishing. 449 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,800 So we have been looking at his score 450 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,440 for childhood neurodevelopmental onset conditions. 451 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,360 We can maybe start with the score for ADHD. 452 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,880 So what you can see here is the distribution of the score. 453 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,880 You can see you have this bell curve. 454 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,600 And in the middle, you have a lot of individuals with an average score. 455 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,280 And then you can also see for ADHD, he's towards the end. 456 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,680 So he has a score that is higher than the average 457 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,760 with common variants that associates 458 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,800 with ADHD or increases the risk for ADHD. 459 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,160 Hitler's possible genetic propensity for ADHD seems 460 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,160 to be reflected in his poor performance at school. 461 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,040 But what about evidence from his 462 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,160 adolescence as his personality became more clearly formed? 463 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:45,600 With ADHD, those people are usually described as being lazy. 464 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,720 But it's a question of interest. 465 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,160 {\an8}When the person with ADHD focuses on something of interest, 466 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,880 then they have the capacity to hyper-focus. 467 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,000 That profile does fit with Hitler, 468 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,680 particularly in school, and indeed, 469 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,960 you can find evidence of ADHD throughout his life. 470 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,400 He was hyperactive, he was impulsive, 471 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,160 he always on the go. 472 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,560 You can see how disastrous the management of 473 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,400 the war would be for somebody who had ADHD like Hitler. 474 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,920 Evidence of Adolf Hitler's behaviour, 475 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,800 before his reinvention as the Nazi demagogue, 476 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,960 is relatively scarce. 477 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,440 But August Kubizek's account of his teenage friendship 478 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,800 with Hitler is an invaluable source 479 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,680 for psychiatrists interested in the dictator's state of mind. 480 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,680 The benefit of the Kubizek memoirs is that they are 481 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,720 the only source about Hitler in his childhood 482 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,840 and teenage years, 483 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,200 and a very good source, 484 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,440 in the sense that Kubizek himself was not politically active. 485 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,440 Kubizek and Hitler's first encounter was here at 486 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,400 the Municipal Theatre, where 487 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,320 the two of them discovered their shared love of music and the opera. 488 00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:23,800 "He was a remarkably pale, skinny youth, 489 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,880 "about my own age, who was following 490 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,720 "the performance with glistening eyes. 491 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,200 "Once after the performance, I accompanied him home. 492 00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:37,120 "When we took leave of each other, he gave me his name - Adolf Hitler." 493 00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:42,800 Hitler and Kubizek's mutual passion for music created 494 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,520 a strong bond and they became close friends. 495 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,080 He was totally obsessed with opera. 496 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,480 He spoke to his friend August endlessly about opera. 497 00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:00,360 But Hitler was very controlling and dominating. 498 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,880 He would talk in monologues, 499 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,800 he would harangue his friend. 500 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:10,120 It was a genuine friendship, but the only one in his life. 501 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,000 "He was always convinced that he was right. 502 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,320 "He would talk for hours, heatedly, passionately, 503 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,920 "often violently, 504 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,120 "and I would listen, completely under his spell." 505 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,640 Hitler clearly struggled with social relationships. 506 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,600 Can this be explained simply by 507 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,320 the higher than average likelihood of ADHD found in his genome? 508 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,200 For a lot of neurodevelopmental disorders, 509 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:42,360 we see very often, and if you have one condition, 510 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,160 there's a high probability of also having another condition. 511 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:52,720 So we have also been looking at Hitler's score for autism. 512 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,240 If we look here at the distribution of autism in 513 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,440 the population, you can see that Hitler is really, 514 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,800 really lying high at the right end. 515 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,680 He has a very high score, 516 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:08,080 and he actually belongs to the top 1%. 517 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,160 Top 1?% 518 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,680 This suggests that I would say quite 519 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:17,600 a high probability that he might have had some autistic behaviours 520 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,600 or symptoms of autism. 521 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,360 What's really interesting seeing these high polygenic scores is that 522 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,920 people were already speculating about whether or not he had these 523 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,960 conditions. They're really striking results. 524 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,560 I can hardly express how staggered I was to find support 525 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,520 for my findings from genetics, 526 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,400 because I had taken quite a lot of criticism 527 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,800 for describing Hitler as having autism, 528 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,600 for ADHD, for... And for other things. 529 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,520 We can't reduce his behaviour to these diagnoses. 530 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,360 Autism is a disability and a difference. 531 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,800 It's a disability in 532 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,480 the sense that people who are autistic struggle 533 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,400 with social relationships and communication. 534 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,920 They struggle with that first kind of empathy. 535 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,160 We call it cognitive empathy, 536 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,800 which is just the ability 537 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,520 to recognise what someone is thinking or feeling. 538 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,040 Autistic people have excellent attention to detail 539 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,040 and excellent pattern recognition skills. 540 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,440 And they tend to kind of focus on particular topics, 541 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,200 sometimes called obsessions. 542 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:40,120 So they go into great depth in a very systematic way. 543 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,120 Long before politics, 544 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,640 Hitler's obsessions were music and art. 545 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,520 And in 1907, 546 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:52,760 he moved to Vienna 547 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,400 to pursue his dream of becoming a painter. 548 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,920 He'd already left school, 549 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,760 he'd given up on everything in his life to that point 550 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,800 and only had this one idea in mind, 551 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,880 which is taking the entrance exam for 552 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,440 the Academy of Fine Arts. 553 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,360 This status was quite important for him. 554 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,600 Hitler seemed to have been obsessed with being an artist. 555 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,680 He really believed he was good enough. 556 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:23,040 So he was always very passionate about that, 557 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,400 but it seemed that it was not his actual calling. 558 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,960 Hitler had invested all his hopes into entering 559 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,680 the Vienna Academy, but he was rejected twice. 560 00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:39,360 {\an8}He spent the next few years drifting in Vienna, 561 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,160 {\an8}eking out a living selling paintings in the street. 562 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,560 A major change of fortune came with the outbreak of 563 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,880 the First World War. 564 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,960 So how did the move 565 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,440 to military life suit Hitler's possible autistic traits? 566 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,480 1914 was one of several turning points in Hitler's life. 567 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,240 The First World War gave him a new opportunity 568 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,760 to find employment, 569 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,840 to find meaning when all his dreams of becoming 570 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,200 an artist had actually been dashed. 571 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:22,480 Hitler left Austria and moved to 572 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,080 the Bavarian capital of Munich in Germany. 573 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,040 When the announcement of war was made in Munich, 574 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,240 Hitler claims he was there that day, 575 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,760 and he joined up with 576 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,440 the 16th Bavarian Infantry Regiment. 577 00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:38,880 At that point, 578 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,800 he is willing to follow orders 579 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,280 and function in this very structured, 580 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:51,040 hierarchical way where other people tell him what his boundaries are 581 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,840 and what he can do within those boundaries. 582 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,200 Hitler thrived in the army. 583 00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:59,800 He won an Iron Cross for bravery 584 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,120 and was promoted to the rank of corporal. 585 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,120 Hitler's entrance into 586 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,560 the army is absolutely fascinating 587 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,960 because he found a structure there. 588 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,920 Another feature of autism is what we call preservation of sameness, 589 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,320 wanting routine, wanting the same routine every day. 590 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,240 He didn't have friends in the army. 591 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,520 He didn't relate to the other soldiers. 592 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,600 If you ever look at a photograph of Hitler in the army, 593 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,400 he's always at a side. 594 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:38,640 Germany was at the mercy of the Allies. 595 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,080 We celebrate not only because the war was over but 596 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,880 because it seemed that we had put an end to German militarism forever. 597 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,800 After the war, Hitler returned to Munich. 598 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,320 In the chaos, 599 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,880 it had become a hotbed of revolutionary activity on 600 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,960 the left and right of politics. 601 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,960 Hitler worked for the army as an informant, sent 602 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,800 to monitor the activities of extreme parties. 603 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,360 He was soon drawn to 604 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,200 the right-wing nationalist views of one group in particular, 605 00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:12,480 the NSDAP, 606 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,560 which became known as the Nazi Party. 607 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,080 It's not uncommon for a person with autism 608 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,440 to have very black and white thinking. 609 00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:28,480 This black and white thinking makes people vulnerable 610 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,560 to join extreme groups. And of course, 611 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,360 Hitler did that. Of course, in the general population, 612 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,200 the vast majority of autistic people are highly moral. 613 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:42,080 They're excessively moral. 614 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,280 Now that's totally different from Hitler who was amoral 615 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,360 and perverse. The first fellow who heard him speak in 616 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,920 a bierkeller in Munich, he said, "What a gob he has, 617 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,960 "we could use him." 618 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,640 And because of that, he was made their leader. 619 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,040 Hitler's genetic propensity for autistic 620 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,480 and ADHD traits does seem 621 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,840 to align with what we know from history. 622 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,480 Could these findings help explain 623 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,800 Hitler's behaviour in later life? 624 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,600 At Trinity College, Cambridge, 625 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,080 a leading autism expert will assess his polygenic scores. 626 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,640 Simon, this is the one for autism. 627 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:33,080 So he's in the top 1% for autism on the polygenic score. 628 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,320 Yeah. We've got another polygenic score around ADHD, 629 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,000 and he's coming at the 80th percentile. 630 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,960 It is amazing how the scientists have managed 631 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,480 to extract these scores from the DNA. 632 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,480 But the process of science is all about critical review and scrutiny. 633 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,080 Going from biology to behaviour is a big jump. 634 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,000 It's an indication of a predisposition, 635 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,080 but it's not a diagnosis. Yeah. 636 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,360 By looking at genetic results like this, 637 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,800 there's a risk of stigma. People out there might feel, 638 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,880 is my diagnosis being linked 639 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,600 with somebody who did such monstrous things? 640 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,000 The vast majority of these individuals do not do bad things. 641 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,640 We've just got to keep that in mind 642 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,200 so that it doesn't become out of balance. 643 00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:26,200 It would be very easy for people to look at this result 644 00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:31,000 and say, "Was the whole of Hitler's behaviour to do with autism?" 645 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,800 And I think that would be the wrong conclusion to draw. 646 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,840 The risk is reductionism down to genetics, 647 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,080 when there are so many other factors that could be playing a part. 648 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,120 We know that genes don't operate in isolation, 649 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,240 they operate in an environment, 650 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,880 and I'm glad that Alex is here as the historian 651 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,640 to just remind us about the importance of social factors. 652 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,720 Yeah. 653 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,640 He clearly experienced 654 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,000 an unusual level of suffering during his childhood. 655 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,200 And loss, yeah. And loss. To me, the experience of neglect 656 00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:05,960 and abuse would be much more relevant 657 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,640 to understanding why somebody grows up with hate 658 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,360 and anger rather than the genetics. The two interplay. 659 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,160 And in Hitler's case, 660 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,760 autism and ADHD cannot explain his cruelty in later life. 661 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:26,120 But perhaps one other polygenic finding from his DNA can. 662 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,760 Tests have also revealed that Hitler's genetic propensity 663 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,760 for antisocial behaviour, 664 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,520 a measure of psychopathy, is in the top 10%. 665 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,240 I think that we're quite entitled 666 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,800 to use criminal autistic psychopathy to describe Hitler. 667 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,960 It highlights, number one, his criminality, 668 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,680 number two, his autism, and number three, 669 00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:55,640 his psychopathy. So it's a very complex mixture. 670 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,240 Hitler was one in a million, or maybe one in billion. 671 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,920 The shy, unusual boy who failed at everything he had strived 672 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,480 for had put his unique mind to reinventing himself as 673 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,600 a messianic leader, inspiring godlike devotion. 674 00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:19,160 But strip away the theatrics, and Hitler was still a man. 675 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,000 No amount of power could help him to overcome 676 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,880 the limits of his body. 677 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,400 And when the scientists explore what 678 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,400 Hitler's DNA might reveal about his physique, 679 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,040 something truly extraordinary is exposed. 680 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,240 We've had some results come back, 681 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:44,040 and there's something really, really interesting in it. 682 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:49,080 He's got a deletion for one letter of his DNA, 683 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,760 but that really affects 684 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:56,080 the protein that is implicated in sexual development 685 00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:01,160 and development of sexual organs. Really significant finding. 686 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,680 It seems this was manifested in his personal life, 687 00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:09,000 in his own personal relations. He had throughout his life, 688 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,120 difficulty establishing intimate relationships. 689 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,920 Oh, my goodness, this is going to be quite big. 690 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,040 Could this finding help to answer one of 691 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,080 the most persistent rumours around Hitler? 692 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,080 {\an8}Subtitles by Red Bee Media 58880

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