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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,600 Let me tell you about one of the youngest and most exciting areas 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:05,960 of astronomy research. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,480 This is a field that is so riddled with diversity 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,120 and discovery that astronomers are constantly left going, 5 00:00:12,120 --> 00:00:13,160 "Huh? 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,280 "Huh? Huh?" 7 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,280 Yes! It's finally happening, everyone! 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,920 We're doing an episode on exoplanets. 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,480 Exoplanets are planets outside the solar system - 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,520 so, typically planets orbiting any star other than the sun, 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,120 but some of them are orphaned and have no star at all, 12 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,960 so just outsiders really. 13 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,960 And, honestly, the stuff we've been discovering is just 14 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,520 constantly challenging everything we think we know about 15 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,480 how planets form and evolve. 16 00:00:41,480 --> 00:00:44,000 I tell you, it is wild out there. 17 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,760 In fact, it is so compelling that, back in 2018, 18 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,600 I left my lovely, stable job as a secondary school physics teacher, 19 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,520 moved to the Midlands, and embarked on a PhD 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,400 in astrophysics as a mature student. 21 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,280 I had to learn Gen Z slang 22 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,240 to get the cool kids to talk to me. 23 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,360 And, lucky for you, tonight, 24 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,320 you're going to get a taste of the field I love so much 25 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:08,120 without having to leave your job - 26 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,200 or even your sofa, for that matter. 27 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,520 Welcome to The Sky At Night. 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,640 Humanity has been dreaming of finding planets out amongst 29 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,160 the stars since we first started staring into space, 30 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,880 asking questions and wondering what might be up there 31 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,080 waiting to be discovered. 32 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,400 How lucky we are to be the generation that gets 33 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,920 to answer those questions. 34 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:04,480 The first exoplanet around a normal star was found in 1995 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,920 by astronomers watching how a star wobbled this way and that, 36 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,120 back and forth, 37 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,320 {\an8}pulled by the gravity of a Saturn-mass planet. 38 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,560 Such giant planets all lie far from the sun, 39 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,960 but this one whizzed around its star in just four-and-a-half days. 40 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,040 No-one had expected such a world. 41 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,120 And this one discovery spurred on a new generation of planet-hunters 42 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,720 who wanted to conduct a census of planets in our galaxy. 43 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,640 To do so, they used a different technique, the transit method. 44 00:02:35,640 --> 00:02:37,880 Thousands of stars are monitored at once, 45 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,360 looking for the faint dip in brightness that happens 46 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,560 when a planet gets in front of its parent star. 47 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,800 Results from space telescopes like Kepler - 48 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,520 and more recently, Tess - 49 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,720 have told us that not only is the galaxy full of planets, 50 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,160 but that some of them might well be like our own Earth. 51 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,760 Now, exactly how Earth-like a Earth-like planet has to be 52 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,560 in order to count as properly Earth-like is open to debate. 53 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,720 If we assume that life like us needs a planet like ours - 54 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,240 cosy atmosphere, liquid water, the right temperature - 55 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,080 then results that we have on hand are close to confirming that 56 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,600 not only is the Milky Way full of worlds, 57 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,160 but lots of them are possible homes. 58 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,000 Are any of these worlds actually inhabited? 59 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,760 Well, astronomers hope to detect what's called a biosignature, 60 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,920 a chemical which might indicate the presence of life. 61 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:33,480 A recent paper claimed to have detected a chemical, DMS, 62 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,640 in the atmosphere of a Neptune-sized world 63 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,760 called K2-18b. 64 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,240 Now, on Earth, DMS is made exclusively by life, 65 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,160 mostly by microorganisms. 66 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,640 So, this is exciting. 67 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,000 But the picture is murky. 68 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,480 Some people think that K2-18b has a liquid water ocean, 69 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,600 others that it's a lava world. 70 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,880 And those details matter. 71 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,720 Other groups have looked at the same data and found 72 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,680 no trace at all of DMs. 73 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,240 And, even if it is there, 74 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,840 can we be sure that it can't be produced without life 75 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,640 in the chemistry of such a strange world? 76 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,200 People are doing lab experiments to be sure. 77 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,200 Basically, this stuff is hard. 78 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,520 But in the meantime, don't despair. 79 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,920 Don't worry that we haven't yet found our perfect twin Earth, 80 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,640 but revel instead in the diversity of worlds that we do know about. 81 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,400 There are hot Jupiters and hot Neptunes, 82 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,400 warm Jupiters and warm Neptunes, 83 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,760 lava worlds, Earth-like places, 84 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,320 Venus-like planets, comet-like planets, 85 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,040 stripped-core planets, diamond worlds, 86 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,520 planets around young stars, 87 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,400 planets around old stars, 88 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,680 planets around pulsars that make no sense at all. 89 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,000 There are planets... 90 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,440 While Chris continues his list of amazing planets 91 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,200 that have already been found... 92 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,080 ..I'm in Germany, where a new mission that hopes to find 93 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,040 many more is being built. 94 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,640 Dubbed "the Planet Hunter", ESA's Plato spacecraft 95 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,680 is set to fly about a million miles to the L2 Lagrange point, 96 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,280 where it's going to unfurl its nine-metre wingspan 97 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:14,120 and settle in for about four years to observe about 200,000 stars 98 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,160 and the exoplanets that orbit them. 99 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,240 I'm meeting Industrial Prime Project Manager Pablo Jorba Coloma 100 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,960 by a model of the spacecraft. 101 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,160 At the heart of the Plato mission is the extraordinary array 102 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,000 of precision-engineered high-spec cameras. 103 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,360 Two fast cameras at the top are integral for guiding, 104 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,160 while the rest focus on monitoring the stars 105 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,680 to hunt for exoplanets. 106 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,320 So, talk me through these cameras. 107 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,400 They're kind of slightly offset from each other, what does that mean? 108 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,520 By grouping the cameras like this, 109 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,320 Plato can obtain a wide field of view covering 5% of the sky... 110 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,880 ..while also getting incredible detail in smaller sections 111 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,640 where more cameras overlap. 112 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,720 But this requires precision, 113 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:36,360 and the extremes of space cause huge engineering challenges. 114 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,160 That's kind of specific. Why that temperature? 115 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,000 I-I... Honestly, I'm absolutely blown away. 116 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,160 So, every single camera has its own little heater 117 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,560 keeping it stable in temperature to, like, a thousandth of a degree? 118 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,360 - Yes. - Incredible. 119 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,120 What stage is the build at right now? Where have you got to? 120 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,960 - Congratulations! I mean, what a massive milestone to hit. - Yes. 121 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,280 Now, obviously, for an exoplaneteer like me, 122 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,880 this is so exciting, in terms of the data we're going to get. 123 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,040 But for an engineer like yourself, what's it been like? 124 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,000 OK, so now... 125 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,600 ..can I see the real thing?! 126 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,760 SHE LAUGHS 127 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,800 Plato will be the culmination of the work of over 100 organisations 128 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,160 from across Europe. 129 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,680 And I don't want to be the one to mess that up. 130 00:08:56,680 --> 00:08:59,560 So, first, it's time to don some PPE. 131 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,360 With that done, the moment has arrived. 132 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,440 So... 133 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,160 It's so beautiful. 134 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,840 It's Plato! 135 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,840 SHE GIGGLES 136 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,200 My heart was racing when I was waiting 137 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,160 in the clean room to come out and like, yeah, he's a beauty. 138 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,200 And I was told actually that, 139 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,000 of the scientists who are going to use Plato data, 140 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,840 I'm the first one to see it, 141 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,240 like, mated, to see it, like, put together. 142 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,680 Of the exoplaneteers, I feel very privileged to be here. 143 00:09:42,680 --> 00:09:44,400 This is mind-blowing. 144 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,280 I am absolutely obsessed. 145 00:09:58,720 --> 00:09:59,760 Yeah. 146 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,040 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 147 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,760 We're going into space! 148 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,880 My face hurts! 149 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,800 I'm barely holding it together from down here. 150 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,720 But then, I was allowed the ultimate view. 151 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,800 I can see all the cameras. 152 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,480 Are they in their positions? 153 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,160 Like, have they been...aligned? 154 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:38,800 - George, talk to me. - Huh? - Talk to me. 155 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,720 I can't! I'm in love! 156 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,640 I could stay here all day. 157 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,400 It's incredible to think that, in about a year and a half, 158 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,360 Plato will be out there scanning the skies for new exoplanets. 159 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,760 But in the meantime, we already have 160 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,400 a huge sample of exoplanets to keep us busy. 161 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,000 {\an8}..we've got icy worlds and water worlds, 162 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,840 and ocean worlds and piscean worlds, 163 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,880 super-Earths and sub-Earths, 164 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,640 super puffs, super... 165 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,200 As we discover these bizarre worlds, 166 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,840 we've been cataloguing them 167 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,720 and plotting them onto graphs. 168 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,360 And a puzzling mystery has emerged. 169 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:27,480 So far, we've found thousands of exoplanets. 170 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,640 And for the majority of them, we can work out their radii. 171 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,040 Now, it turns out that most of them sit between Earth-size 172 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,760 and Neptune-size. 173 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,920 Now, Neptune is three-and-a-half times the size of Earth. 174 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,200 But there's a mystery. 175 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,920 To explain further, I've got a little demonstration, 176 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,480 {\an8}and it involves sweets. 177 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,480 {\an8}SHE CHUCKLES 178 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,440 {\an8}Now, each of these jars represents 179 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,200 {\an8}a distribution of exoplanet size. 180 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,720 {\an8}This one is one to one-and-a-half times the size of Earth. 181 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,760 {\an8}This one is one-and-a-half to two times the size of Earth. 182 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,160 {\an8}And this one is two 183 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,800 {\an8}to three-and-a-half times the size of Earth. 184 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,800 {\an8}Now, these sweets represent the exoplanets, 185 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,760 {\an8}and we can fill up the jars according to their sizes. 186 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,320 {\an8}Now, as you can see, 187 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,400 {\an8}I think a pattern is emerging. 188 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,880 {\an8}But let's put the other exoplanets in, 189 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,240 {\an8}and then I'll explain. 190 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,200 {\an8}So, now we've distributed all the exoplanets, 191 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,360 {\an8}you can see where the mystery lies. 192 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,040 We have plenty in this jar. 193 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,960 We have plenty in this jar. 194 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,800 But, in the one-and-a-half to two times the size of Earth, 195 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,920 there seems to be a deficit. 196 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,120 And the mystery is so grand, it's been given its own title. 197 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,840 It's called the Exoplanet Radius Valley. 198 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,360 Because, if you plot this on a graph, 199 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,320 {\an8}you get a valley here in the middle. 200 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,360 To find out more about this gap, 201 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,320 I'm being joined by Larissa Palethorpe, 202 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,640 who's been studying this area, 203 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,320 and, along the way, found more than she expected. 204 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,600 Now, we're speaking exoplanets. 205 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,840 We've been doing a demonstration, looking at the Radii Valley. 206 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,280 And this is the area of your PhD research. 207 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:22,560 Can you tell us more? 208 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:26,400 So, my PhD thesis is called "Characterising Small Exoplanets". 209 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,320 Essentially, I look at these planets, 210 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,680 which are around Earth-size, to work out kind of why 211 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:36,920 we have this gap in the make-up of these planets, 212 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,200 adding new sweets into these jars, so that we can learn more 213 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,520 - about the problem, and try and get some answers. - OK. 214 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,360 And I suppose, that's it - the sort of more sweets we have, 215 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,680 the better we understand the distribution. 216 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:53,480 And you have the proud position of detecting an exoplanet yourself. 217 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,640 Tell us more about your exoplanet. 218 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,880 Yes, so Gliese 12 b, 219 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,840 I co-led the discovery of that planet last year. 220 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,960 It's an Earth-size, very temperate planet, 221 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,640 so it's about 42 degrees Celsius on the surface, 222 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,640 which makes it a very exciting candidate for follow-up 223 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,720 - to see whether... - Mm, yes! 224 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,800 So, almost Earth-like? I mean, 42 is a bit warm, but... 225 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,320 Yeah, so we would classify that as kind of Earth-like, 226 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,040 - kind of looking at, can liquid water exist on the surface? - Yes. 227 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,360 And obviously, at 42 degrees Celsius, 228 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,200 it could, but it's hard to say whether the planet 229 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,920 is Earth-like right now from the information we have. 230 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,880 Right now, we currently only know the radius of the planet, 231 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,080 so the size of it. 232 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,640 In future, we're going to learn more about the mass - 233 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,040 - that's currently being worked on right now. - Yeah. 234 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,600 But what we really want to understand is, 235 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,000 does it have an atmosphere? 236 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,000 So, I have to bring it up - life. 237 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,760 We don't know about if it has an atmosphere or anything like that, 238 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,800 but...it just feels quite exciting that, you know, 239 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,640 - potentially there could be life, maybe? - Yeah, potentially. 240 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,600 It's kind of hard to make a claim like that with kind of 241 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,800 the way we analyse data right now, 242 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,880 but it's definitely a good candidate for looking at kind of 243 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,080 a temperate, Earth-size planet, 244 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,440 and what ends up evolving on the surface of that. 245 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,680 - So hopefully, maybe it's habitable, but we don't know right now. - Yes. 246 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,360 So hopefully, we will know in the future. 247 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,680 And I suppose, the other exciting thing is, it's not that far away? 248 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,080 So, it's actually our nearest Earth-sized, temperate, 249 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,520 - transiting planet found today. - A lovely description! 250 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,040 Yeah, it's a bit of a mouthful. 251 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,840 So, near - it's 40 light years - it's Earth-size, 252 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,400 it's about one Earth radii. 253 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,920 It's temperate, it's 42 degrees Celsius on its surface, 254 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,440 and it's transiting, so it passes in front of a star, 255 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,800 which makes it helpful for observations. 256 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:43,200 Orbiting a red dwarf star that is just 27% the size of our sun, 257 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,640 Gliese 12 b is a fascinating planet. 258 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,040 But we still have the radius value mystery to solve. 259 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,000 Are there theories out there that might explain 260 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,360 - why we have this lull? - Yes, there are theories. 261 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,720 So, it's to do with how planets form and evolve. 262 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,320 There are a few different mechanisms as to how we think this might work, 263 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,000 but the key, base theory is that planets start off 264 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,600 with atmospheres and, through some process - 265 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,240 whether it's to do with the star or the way they've formed - 266 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,720 it's that they have their atmospheres stripped from them. 267 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,480 And hence, they become super-Earths. 268 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:15,840 So, there are different mechanisms. 269 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,760 We haven't been able to nail down the mechanism yet, 270 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,040 but essentially, it's atmospheric loss. 271 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,680 - OK. Yes. - That's what we think. 272 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,080 - And this is sort of the transition zone. - Yes. 273 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,480 And so, they start off here, they end up here, and then 274 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:27,960 - they just pass through this. - Yeah. 275 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,800 - And so there might not be many out there? - Yeah. 276 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,680 So theoretically, we should see planets moving through the valley. 277 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,920 And, depending on the exact theory you choose is 278 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,280 how long it would take them to move through the valley. 279 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,280 - So, that's how we're going to narrow things down. - Yes! 280 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,120 So, again, it's adding more sweets to this jar 281 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,040 and seeing how long they stay in that jar for, 282 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,320 before they jump over. 283 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,600 Hopefully it will help us nail it down. 284 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,680 - Well, you can't argue with more sweets. - Exactly, exactly. 285 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,360 ..we've got planets with clear atmospheres, 286 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,360 planets where it rains glass, 287 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,720 planets where it rains iron, 288 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,360 hazy planets, clou... cloudy planets, 289 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,960 planets with rings... 290 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,360 But the planet we really want to find is one exactly like ours. 291 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:12,320 And maybe Plato will be the one to find it. 292 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,520 George has torn herself away from the spaceship, 293 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,520 and is sitting down with Thomas Walloschek, 294 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,200 the ESA project manager of the mission, 295 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,680 to find out what makes it so special. 296 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,240 So, talk to me about Plato's aims. 297 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,560 What's Plato going to achieve for us? 298 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,560 So, we are really looking for Earth-like planets 299 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,720 around sun-like stars 300 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,880 in what people call the habitable zone - 301 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,760 so, meaning there might be a possibility of liquid water. 302 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,440 What's special about this mission? 303 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,600 I would say we are a multi-telescope mission, 304 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,320 which is quite different to the missions beforehand. 305 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,600 Beforehand, we had, let's say, single telescopes. 306 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,440 We have 26 cameras on board. 307 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,640 But also, there, we have a blue filter and a red filter 308 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,760 on the fast cameras, which could give us a hint about 309 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,440 already the atmospheres of these planets. 310 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,720 Now, of course, these will be very impressive cameras, 311 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,840 but can you put it in terms I'll understand? 312 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,280 How many megapixels, how does it compare to 313 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,240 my phone camera, for example? 314 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,880 You know, roughly the size of your phone. 315 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,920 And then, we can talk maybe about the size of one sensor 316 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,440 of one of the cameras, which is 20 megapixels. 317 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,880 But we have four of them per camera, 318 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,680 which makes it 80 megapixels already per camera. 319 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,680 And, if you put it to 26 cameras, 320 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,280 you have 2.1 gigapixels - 321 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:38,160 so 2.1 billion pixels, really, that we have at hand 322 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,280 to do our observations. 323 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,680 So, a slight improvement on my 12 megapixels? 324 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,920 I would say so. 325 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,880 So, how important is the stability of the configuration? 326 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,840 Yeah, that's really one of the main drivers of the mission. 327 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,160 So, we are looking at the southern hemisphere 328 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,560 as one of our observation fields, 329 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,880 and we want to look at this for two years. 330 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,680 Within these two years, what we are trying to achieve is 331 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,760 that we have a variation of a target, 332 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,680 not more than plus or minus one pixel 333 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,000 over the camera's...the camera's sensors. 334 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:18,040 The aim is to have the same star roughly on the same pixel 335 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,640 for the full two years? 336 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,040 Yeah, that's, in principle, the idea. 337 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,880 - That's astonishing! - Yeah. 338 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,040 Do you think Plato will do it? 339 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,000 Will it find Earth 2.0? 340 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,320 I definitely hope so. 341 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,520 And, let's say statistics show that we have a chance. 342 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:41,160 It is thrilling to think that, one day, 343 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,080 Plato may detect other planets exactly like our own. 344 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,520 But, while we wait to find out, 345 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,240 an unexpected gas giant is challenging our understanding 346 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,040 of how planets form. 347 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,080 TOI 694 is a faint red dwarf. 348 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,280 Nothing to write home about, and normally, 349 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,800 a star no-one would pay attention to. 350 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,040 But a paper out last month revealed that this star 351 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,880 has a planet all of its own, 352 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,000 and it's one that shouldn't exist. 353 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,680 I'm at the University of Warwick 354 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,600 meeting Edward Bryant - 355 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,280 who discovered this planet - to find out more. 356 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,320 So, Ed, what have you found? 357 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,160 So, what I found is a new planet called TOI-6894 b. 358 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,240 And what's really exciting about this planet is, 359 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,960 although the planet itself is just the size of Saturn, 360 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,840 the star it orbits is only 20% the size of our sun. 361 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,880 I think I've worked out what these are for. 362 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,480 This football here shows the size of our sun in our own solar system. 363 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:45,880 With strange sunspots... 364 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,000 With some sunspots and solar activity going on. 365 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,560 And then, the red snooker ball is showing the size of the star, 366 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,720 TOI-6894, relative to the sun. 367 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,120 And then the small bouncy ball there is showing 368 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:00,920 the size of the planet, both TOI-6894 b and Saturn. 369 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,360 Saturn's the second-largest planet in our solar system, 370 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,360 and, though it's a gas giant, 371 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:10,040 it's less than a tenth the size of the sun's diameter. 372 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,080 TOI-6894 b, on the other hand, 373 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,560 is almost half the size of its red dwarf host star. 374 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:22,680 So, is it unusual to have such a massive planet 375 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,440 around such a small star? 376 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,840 It is unusual, yes. 377 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,080 And the reason it's so unusual is because we wouldn't have expected 378 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,120 that a star this small could have formed a planet this large. 379 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:35,560 - Why not? - So, when we think these planets form protoplanetary disks, 380 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,400 these are huge disks of gas and rock and dust 381 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,920 that surround the young star. 382 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,880 I've always thought of it as the leftover material from the star. 383 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,160 That's absolutely right. It's everything that's left from 384 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,200 the cloud that collapses to form the star. 385 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,560 And, within these disks, the solid materials - 386 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,160 so the rock and the dust - collides together, and, 387 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,480 over about a few million years or so, builds up 388 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,120 a very massive core that then will accrete gas 389 00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:58,840 and become the planet. 390 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,880 But the problem around these very low-mass stars is we think 391 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,880 that these less massive stars have less massive disks. 392 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,120 And so we wouldn't have thought that there would be enough material 393 00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:09,920 to form a planet this massive. 394 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,520 So, what's happening? 395 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,520 Is this some different form of planet formation? 396 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,760 Or is there something else going on? 397 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,360 So, it could be a different form of planet formation, 398 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:22,160 or it could be that we just don't understand the disks very well. 399 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,280 So, there's a lot of work going on currently to trying 400 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,720 to understand these disks. 401 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,120 And these disks have not been studied in large numbers, 402 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:30,760 and these planets are very rare. 403 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,960 So, this may just be the star that got lucky. 404 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,400 It could just be, yes, that this was a star that got lucky, 405 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,000 and, for some reason, had a disk that was a different composition 406 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,120 than what we expected, either more massive or a higher percentage of it 407 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:46,360 was this rocky material that could form the core of the planet. 408 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:49,400 - Now, what about the planet itself? - So, we don't know much yet, 409 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,480 because all we have currently is a mass and a radius, 410 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,120 and an estimate of what the temperature might be like. 411 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:57,240 So, how will we find out more about it? 412 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:02,120 By observing its atmosphere using transmission spectroscopy, 413 00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:05,000 and using telescopes such as JWST. 414 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,520 So, what will we learn from these JWST observations? 415 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,360 So, as well as learning what gases are in the atmosphere, 416 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:14,280 one thing that we may be able to work out is 417 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,760 the exact mass of the core. 418 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,640 And, using that mass of the core, that feeds back into what 419 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,880 formation process may have caused this planet in the first place, 420 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,720 whether it has a very massive core or a less massive core, 421 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,520 that could have formed through a different mechanism. 422 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,800 While powerful cameras in space hope to reveal the secrets 423 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,800 of planets orbiting distant stars... 424 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,000 ..it's by pointing a camera at the moon orbiting our Earth 425 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,360 that you can capture a rather special image. 426 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,120 Pete is on hand to explain. 427 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,960 While short nights and not particularly dark skies 428 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,920 can make stargazing difficult during the summer months, 429 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,120 the moon can always be relied on to delight. 430 00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:00,440 And this is a good time to look out for an effect 431 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,160 known as the moon illusion. 432 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:10,240 This is where the moon appears huge against the horizon - 433 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,120 and that is the key word, 434 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:16,120 because it is an optical illusion that only occurs when the moon 435 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:18,360 is seen near the horizon. 436 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,600 And the reason why it is currently a great time to look out 437 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:29,000 for this illusion is that we're at a point in an 18.6-year cycle, 438 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,080 which means the fuller phases of the moon appear low to the horizon 439 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,800 at this time of year. 440 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,560 You may have already seen July's full moon, 441 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,120 which barely scraped ten degrees above the southern horizon - 442 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:47,040 that's less than the width of your clenched fist at arm's length. 443 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,880 The shallow angle of rising and setting for the fuller phase of 444 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,320 the moon means it appears closer to the horizon for longer than usual. 445 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,120 And that's great for looking out for the moon illusion. 446 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,800 Good nights to look for it in mid-July will be 447 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,600 on the 14th or 15th of July, 448 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,400 at around 2340 BST, 449 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,640 {\an8}when a waning gibbous moon will appear above 450 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,760 {\an8}the east-southeast horizon. 451 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,800 {\an8}Then again, on the 8th and 9th of August, 452 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,200 {\an8}you can see the same effect with the full moon rising 453 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,160 {\an8}over the south-east horizon from around 2115 BST. 454 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,560 However, photographing these moons can be disappointing, 455 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,280 and there have been many people who've seen a huge moon 456 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,760 on the horizon, taken a photograph of it with their phone, 457 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:34,880 looked at the result, 458 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,680 and been disappointed how small the moon looks. 459 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,280 But for amateur photographers, it's all about the framing. 460 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,280 The key to getting a great picture simulating the effect 461 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,400 is to ensure you have included something on the horizon 462 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,760 to create the perspective your eye perceives. 463 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,760 To do this, you ideally want to use a long focal length lens, 464 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,440 or a telescope, 465 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,440 and you want to frame the image to include some interesting - 466 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,920 but distant - foreground object in the field of view. 467 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,920 Get it right, and the effect can be very impressive. 468 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,080 Despite the long daytime periods, 469 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,000 there's plenty more to see at this time of year. 470 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,280 As always, you can check out my more detailed star guide, 471 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,080 which is available at... 472 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:32,240 Ever since I started out in research, 473 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,520 I have just fallen deeper and deeper in love with exoplanets, 474 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,320 because we're not just discovering these incredible, 475 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,920 strange new worlds, 476 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,120 we're also gaining a deeper understanding 477 00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:43,720 of how the universe works. 478 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,880 And I cannot wait to see what my guy Plato 479 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,600 and exoplaneteers in general just go on to discover. 480 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,800 ..surprising egg-shaped planets. 481 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,880 There are eyeball planets. 482 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,760 There are marshmallow planets, candyfloss planets, 483 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,360 and even popcorn... 484 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,880 But before we go, there is one more thing. 485 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,840 This month marks 25 years since Chris Lintott 486 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,680 first appeared on The Sky At Night. 487 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,480 And, in celebration of that, 488 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,560 here's some of his best bits. 489 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,600 And now, on to our main theme. 490 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,640 Here we go! 491 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,360 Ready for take-off. 492 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:20,760 And with me, Chris Lintott, 493 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,640 - welcome to The Sky At Night, Chris. - Thank you. 494 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,760 Tonight's programme - we want to talk about the Saturnian moons. 495 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,920 An annular eclipse. 496 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,200 Cosmic ghouls. 497 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,840 Galactic cannibalism. 498 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,080 And I can't wait! 499 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,280 It's going to be really exciting. 500 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,200 We're watching the team at Mission Control, 501 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,560 and they look pretty calm - 502 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,440 calmer than I feel, anyway. 503 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,080 And that was the annular eclipse! CHEERING 504 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,560 Chris, where are you? 505 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,320 I'm at the Institute of Astronomy, 506 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,400 in the dome of my favourite telescope. 507 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,920 This is the Cam, in Cambridge, 508 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,280 and we're just coming under the mathematical bridge. 509 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,480 I'm here on the Isidis Planitia. 510 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,560 I think you'd find Mars a pretty pleasant place to be. 511 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,080 Well, it's flat and red. 512 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,520 One of the problems in exploring the solar system 513 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,280 are the sheer distances involved. 514 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,360 Maybe we just need to think bigger. 515 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:07,480 Seriously, this is too many Chrises! 516 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,040 I don't think I expected that. 517 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,480 Well, there it is! Everyone cheering... 518 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,920 LOUD CHEERING 519 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,920 Yes! So, so... 520 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,680 It's been absolutely incredible. 521 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,480 APPLAUSE I think people are quite happy. 522 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,680 So, I'm not sure what any of that means. What do you reckon? 523 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,880 I don't understand it at all. 524 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,400 Thank you very much, Chris. 525 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,360 And, from The Sky At Night, goodnight. 526 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:29,400 Goodnight. 527 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,440 Goodnight. 43703

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