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Tonight, the Real Housewives of Beverly
Hills reunion concludes.
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Is Kathy coming?
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Kathy?
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Oh. Perfect.
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Gorgeous. Here she comes, the grand dame
of Beverly Hills.
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Sometimes we do say things a little bit
out of anger, and I am a hundred
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times more sensitive than you.
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Um, no.
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Is there anything going on with Morgan?
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It looked like you guys were
girlfriends.
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Um... You are separated but still living
under one roof. Do
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you talk about divorce?
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It's hard for us to say that word, I
think.
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Are there conversations about someone
moving out?
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When did things really start to change?
Is there an event?
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Something happened where I did lose my
trust.
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Something that he did?
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Erica, you said some women in this group
fear Kathy.
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Who do you think is most afraid of her?
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Are you okay?
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What's up? Are you okay?
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What? Lay down.
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Can she lay down? Oh, God.
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Oh, God. This is making me nervous.
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You're shaking.
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You're shaking.
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Oh, God.
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No, hold on. Hold on. Can we call
somebody, please?
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So, Teddy commented on your drinking.
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Yeah. She said you carry vodka around
with you. Okay, in my purse, yeah. Yes.
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Was she doing your dirty work?
Absolutely not.
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Well, you could have said, no, she
doesn't. But it's the insinuation. I
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say that. It's understanding your
responsibility in the insinuation. You
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got to understand this at some point,
Kyle.
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Kyle, you have been relentlessly mean to
me. And mean jabs all season long. Oh,
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my God. Yes, you have. And where did it
start? And if you can't take
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responsibility for it, it's going to
make you insane. Why have you learned
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like... Shut up sometimes and listen.
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I want to know.
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For someone who has lost someone, where
was the compassion?
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I should have... Why did I say to you? I
could have been a better friend to you,
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and I am sorry. And by the way, when you
said that in the church, in Spain... I
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said...
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Yes, you were. Because I felt bad and we
were in a house of God. So I was like,
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I'm going to forgive her. You were
faking it. No. I said, let me finish my
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sentence. I wanted to forgive you and
move on. But it was extremely hurtful at
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that dinner party to sit there and be
grilled about my marriage. But I didn't
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say anything about your marriage. I was
just asking questions.
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All right. Well, where do you two go
from here?
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That's the question.
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I love Sutton. I really did consider her
my friend.
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That's why it hurt me so much.
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This may take some time, but I don't see
something that we can't fix.
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We're going to be fine.
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And I think we both know that in our
hearts. Yeah. And I'm, see, then I'll
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getting teary because I miss her so
much.
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I miss talking to her, too. That's why I
was so confused.
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I think I just wanted support from
everybody at that time instead of... All
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right. Maybe you should hug it out.
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All
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right.
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I'm going to leave it there.
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We're going to take a break, and then
we're going to bring your friend out.
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Okay, what are we waiting on?
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Is Kathy coming?
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And then right at me right there.
Perfect.
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Gorgeous.
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Thank you.
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We're standing by to Mike, Kathy. Kathy
is not Mike.
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Okay.
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Well, I guess we should wrap it up then,
guys. Bye. Well, you know, I'm really
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feeling like we need to go. I haven't
even cried.
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Well, then we can't leave until you do.
You're about to. Oh, shut up. You are
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about to.
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Andy. Was Kathy supposed to be a
surprise?
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Yes.
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Oh.
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Oh,
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gosh, this is hot.
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I'm uncomfortable.
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Yep. Oh, great.
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Here she comes, everybody. The grand tom
of Beverly Hills.
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Hello. Not Lisa Vanderpump. Hi, baby.
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Hello. Hi.
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I texted you back when I woke up.
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Because I love sparkly.
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How are you?
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Kathy Hilton, welcome back to the last
place we thought we would see you again.
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Sitting next to your sister at the
reunion stage. Great to see you.
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Thank you. It's great to see all of you.
And I see that you are holding a
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crystal as well.
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I brought an extra one for us to share.
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That's so sweet.
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Kathy, how does it feel?
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to be back and be back sitting next to
Kyle. It feels really good. I believe
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things happen for a reason, and I'm
here. Of course, I wanted to see
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and here to support Kyle. I'm happy
you're here.
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Kathy, have you seen the show this
season? Oh, I watch all the clips.
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Oh, you watch all the clips?
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Yeah. Okay. You watch all the interwebs,
you know, on Instagram. The interwebs.
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Okay. You didn't watch...
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No, I don't watch anybody's show, but I
actually watch Crystal.
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You know, I'm glad the two of you are
doing better now, but Kyle and Kathy's
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relationship has been under the
microscope since day one.
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And just last season, Kathy appeared to
close the door on their relationship
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together. But Kyle couldn't help but
notice that some people here continued
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blow in whatever direction Kathy and the
wind from her box fan would take. them.
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Watch.
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This past year, you know, I had an issue
with my oldest sister, Kathy.
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That night, they were screaming at me in
front of everybody, and it really hurt
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me and embarrassed me.
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If someone hurts me, I have to keep them
at arm's length to protect myself,
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blood included.
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Why are you upset with me right now?
Because I got upset.
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Just say it. Why are you acting like a
martyr? Like, it's just you.
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But what came out of that is that we're
not speaking now.
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She gets so mean. I really can't handle
the meanness, like, the way she talks.
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You didn't say, this guy just hurt my
feelings. I'm so embarrassed. He said,
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are out of here. Everybody saw.
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I know. And you looked at me like, you
fucking leave me now. And I was like,
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Kathy, first of all, I'm an adult. You
can't talk to me like that.
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Mom never wanted this kind of stuff. No.
She would.
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All about us sticking together. Friends
come and go and people come and go.
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Family stays.
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I'm scared of her like this.
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You're mad at me about the Kathy thing?
That hasn't even registered to me.
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If she admits that she is angry with me
for being friends with Kathy, that means
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she doesn't like Kathy. This is a love
triangle gone awry.
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You can go fuck yourself because you
know the truth. You've had your own
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situations with her, and you don't want
to speak up. Oh, I didn't. Tell
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everybody what Kathy did. You can just
ask in public.
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Kathy did not like that I did not stick
up for her in the press. So she called
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me, and she yelled at me. And I told
Kyle, I see what you've experienced.
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Yeah, but you were real quiet that day
when we were all going to have a lot of
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fun, weren't you?
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Some women in this group fear Kathy
because she holds the access to
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they want. I don't really care if I get
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invited to any of your Christmas parties
or if I'm not on your list.
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How do you feel about us being friends
with Kathy?
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I would like to feel like, you know, you
guys aren't sitting around talking
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about something. So I feel like you guys
have your own relationship.
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No. No.
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I get it. You want to be friends with
Kathy.
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Do I think it's because she has a lot of
parties?
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I do.
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All right.
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We'll get to you two coming together,
but Erica, you said some women in this
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group fear Kathy because she holds the
access to something they want. She can
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lock you out of Beverly Hills or lock
you out of parties, lock you out of
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groups. Be careful.
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No, actually, I saw that, and I played
it.
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Several times. And I sent it to people.
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Erica, who do you think is most afraid
of her in this group?
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She's Beverly Hills.
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Yeah. And she sets that standard. And
there are a lot of women. You don't want
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to run crossways with this one.
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Right.
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Are you okay?
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What's wrong? Are you okay?
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What? This is making me angry.
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Oh, God.
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What's wrong? You're shaking. You're
shaking.
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Oh, God. Can we call somebody, please?
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Erica, you said some women in this group
fear Kathy.
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Who do you think is most afraid of her
in this group?
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She's a Beverly Hills.
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Yeah. And you don't want to run
crossways with this one.
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Right. All right.
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Are you OK? Are you OK?
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Are you okay?
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What's wrong? Are you okay? You want
some water?
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Oh, God.
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Can we call somebody, please? You're
shaking.
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I don't want to lay down. I don't want
to lay down.
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No, no, no. Hold on. She's not sick.
She's shaking. Why don't you sit down? I
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don't think she should be walking. Let's
lay down. Lay down. Lay down. Sit down.
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Okay. No, I know, but you're shaking.
You're shaking. I don't think this is
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good. Oh, my God. That's scary.
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She was saying she was hot a lot. A hot
flash.
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When you're 49 years old, it's bound to
happen.
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I'm going to put this on your arm, okay?
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You're shaking a little bit. Do you feel
dizzy or nauseous at all? Well, I got a
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little scared.
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Why? You're okay. You're okay. You're
okay. Your blood pressure is high.
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Your pulse is high.
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You should call, like, 911 to come get
her. She has to go get checked out
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anyway. I think that you should get
checked out. I don't think it's
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that we call 911 for you. Thank you.
We've got transport here that can take
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gladly to local urgent care or to a
hospital if you feel that that's
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How have you been?
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Good. I love the holidays so much, and I
felt like I didn't get to enjoy it
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enough. Is your tree still up? Do you
still have your stuff up? I just took it
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down. Oh, wow.
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Well, why don't we just get her to lay
down, and then we'll get them to get up.
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You don't want to lay down? Well, you
don't have to lay down out here, but I
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just think maybe you could lay down on
your couch in your dressing room. I
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have steady feet.
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Can we get her slippers?
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Does she have a problem with her face?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Neuropathy. I don't understand what that
is.
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Your nerves? It's like pins and needles.
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It's like kind of neurologic. Yes.
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I'll be okay.
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You're okay to walk? Yeah. Can someone
walk with her? No. Her blood pressure is
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very high.
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That's as high as mine was.
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That's scaring me.
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You're okay. You're good.
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You're fine. You're going to be okay.
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Sutton, you're going to be okay.
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You're going to be okay.
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You're going to be okay.
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I feel like she lost consciousness for a
hot second.
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As you're walking, you feel a little
better? Yeah. Okay.
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You look like you're shaking.
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Yeah. Well, I got scared.
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All right.
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I think she knew it.
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It's a good way to get out of being
here.
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Which you're right.
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Exactly. What we can do is we can sit
you down for now. Uh -huh.
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But I really think that you need to go
get checked out somewhere.
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Okay. Do you want me to come?
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Okay. I want to come.
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Can I get something to eat?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Somebody open the door, please. I got
it. I got it.
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Thank you.
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So we'll get you inside. We'll close the
door. We'll have a little privacy.
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Okay. Okay.
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Here,
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your hands are shaking. Let me hold it.
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I'm okay.
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Here, it's just shaking.
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You're going to be okay. We got you.
Okay.
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Okay. Everybody has PTSD and trauma.
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That's a reunion first.
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I know. I saw the same thing.
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Ladies, I know that we all want her to
get better. I think that the best thing
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for her is for her to lay down and
she'll be taken care of. And I just want
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to keep talking.
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We'll get to you two coming together,
but I want to... Go back, though. Erica,
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you said some women in this group fear
Kathy.
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That's not my social group. You don't
care. Let me say this. You don't give to
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even when you were married and things
were, but you don't fear.
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Yeah. I see Kathy coming from the dance
floor. She says, the DJ's an old fucking
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faggot and walked off.
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Anyone that knows me knows I don't talk
like that. And anyone that knows me
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knows I'm not lying.
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I don't know if that's a good thing or
not. No, no, but I mean.
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I will say this. She can pick up the
phone and make things happen in a very
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graceful way. I totally agree with
Erica.
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Kathy is a powerful person. She is
Beverly Hills, exactly.
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But do you think there's anybody that we
know that thinks like that? I mean, can
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you see me? Yes, I do. I do think that
I'm saying that.
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But I definitely in this group.
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Yeah. You know, it's interesting because
you were here and I think.
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Lisa Rinna was right here, and it was
not pretty.
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You are the biggest bully in Hollywood,
and everyone knows that. I saw the
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devil. You were a fucking monster, and
that was that.
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And then you and I were together on
Watch What Happens Live recently, and
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said that Rinna sent you flowers. The
two of you had a long phone call.
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What did that conversation entail that
allowed you to make up? Well, she sent
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very beautiful flowers and a lovely
note. Uh -huh.
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What did the note say?
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I'd like to do some healing, and, you
know, I don't want to, if that's between
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us, and when somebody extends all the
branch like that.
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That's nice.
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And what is the status of your
relationship with Lisa?
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Well, I didn't really, you know,
obviously after that happened, I kept my
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distance, you know, and she did too. I
bump into her, and she's always nice,
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she'll send me a funny meme from, like,
the show or something.
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So, Kathy, how did you feel leaving last
year's reunion? Did you think this was
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it for you and Kyle? Never.
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My relationship with my sister is more
important than any TV show ever. I mean,
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Kyle, think about it.
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Have we ever had a blow -up like that? I
mean, the press will say certain
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things.
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If I had to count, and I will hide my
fingers, in all of our life where we
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had a fight.
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Because they make it like, oh, we had a
fight, we had a fight. They're always
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fighting.
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A big fight like that?
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Three? What did I have? Absolutely did.
So, I mean, we're sisters.
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That's going to happen.
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Well, Kathy, it's no secret that
Mauricio starting the agency created
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between your families. I have been
approached to...
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create our own company. And it's so
difficult for me to deal with that
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of family.
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Here is my sister, my brother -in -law,
my family, and I don't want them to be
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upset. Mo even wrote in his book
regarding Rick's company that if they
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what I deserved and showed me an inkling
of professional love, he would have
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stayed, but they didn't see it that way.
Those are all quotes.
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When he left, he did call on a Thursday.
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Okay. And Rick said, okay. He said, when
are you planning on leaving? And he
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said, on Friday. And he said, your
family, just know opening your own
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is tough. The door is always open for
you.
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Just don't poach on my staff or my
agents.
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And did he?
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A few. And that put Kyle and I in a kind
of a funky.
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And you and Mo in a bad spot.
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I would think. Right. But let me say
this, and Kyle, you do know this,
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you... I don't want to get into that
stuff. I won't. I really don't. But Rick
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did. But he would... We also had people
that were under him in the Umansky group
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at Hilton Highland. Right.
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So... Yeah.
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So... I didn't care that much. It's
okay.
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You're going to be okay.
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Have you ever had anything like this
happen before?
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No. Never? Yeah, we have crack. Let me
get another blood pressure real fast
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while we wait.
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You don't feel nauseous or anything,
right? I feel a little nauseous. Okay. I
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feel a little sleepy.
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Okay. Well, it seems like you're having
a lot more symptoms than I'm seeing at
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first. Yeah.
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I'll come with you. Okay.
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She's still shaking.
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Is she? Yeah.
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She needs to go. Okay.
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You want to change? You want to go with
her? Yeah. Okay, great. Yeah, Bernie,
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change. A thousand.
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I get that.
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We're all going to be out of bed.
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We're going to go to the hospital.
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Okay. I need my phone, though. We were
going to go to dinner. I need to cancel
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dinner. Where's your phone?
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Um, I'm on stage.
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Behind the pillow.
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Um, just want to let you know, Sutton is
okay, but they're going to take her to
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the hospital out of an abundance of
caution, and Garcelle's going with her
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the hospital.
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We're all praying for Sutton. Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
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So... I just want to grab Garcelle and
Sutton's phones, and then we've also got
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Merce Cunningham's ashes here. I think
they're all here.
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Coming up, when did things really start
to change? Is there an event?
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Something happened where I did lose my
cry?
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Something that he did?
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I just want to grab Garcelle and
Sutton's phones, and then we've also got
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Cunningham's ashes here. I think they're
all in here.
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He's in the purse again. He's in the
purse again.
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There you go.
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Merce is in there?
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Yeah, Merce is in there. I thought we
set him free.
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She kept a little more of it.
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The ashes to the reunion.
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I feel honored that Merce Cunningham is
here. Well, at least give her a seat.
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I'll go on there myself.
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I got your phone.
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Okay. Feel better, okay? Okay. Love you.
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Love you. Bye, Garcelle.
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Want to take off your jacket?
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No, Garcelle. Okay, come on.
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You're not going to die.
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Would you have more people to wrestle
together when you go?
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So how did the two of you come back
together, Kathy and Kyle? I mean, what
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happened? Because we saw this season you
were estranged. Our niece, Whitney, got
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married. So there was a shower. Kim's
daughter.
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Right. So there was a shower. So I saw
Kathy and the girls for the first time
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there. I'm sorry.
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It wasn't useful.
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It was not your fault. Get the video.
Get the video. I got the video.
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It was not your fault.
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And then they all came to my house in
Aspen for like a welcome dinner party.
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Okay. And then it just sort of like
broke down. And it was beautiful. And
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the next day, so silly, but I've been
there so long.
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Annie, there's no music and nobody's
here.
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Kyle go, oh, my God, that's my sister
Kathy.
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And she came and sat with me.
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And I'm, oh.
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You missed her. She was, like, really
happy and proud and, like, no one was
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there. And so I felt so.
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Included. Included and happy.
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Oh, that's great. Wow.
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That's really nice. Here's a Kleenex.
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Kathy, on Bravo's Hot Mike podcast, Kyle
worried the things that she said on the
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show could ruin your reconciliation with
her.
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I was very, like, honest in the moment.
And now I'm stressed that, you know,
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what did I say in the moments when I
thought we were done?
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Because I don't want that to kick
everything up and ruin my relationship
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So that scares me.
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She warned me. She did. She said, I feel
so bad. We're in such a great place.
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Sometimes we do see things a little bit
out of anger.
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And, you know, I am 100 times more
sensitive than you.
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Okay. Do you agree?
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No. I may come across like that
sometimes.
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That doesn't mean that you're not a
sensitive person, but your vibe is
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Yours is very strong, too. I don't think
you realize how strong yours is.
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I really feel.
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That you love me very much. I do love
you very much.
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I like to feel that I need you.
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I want to be needed. I do need you.
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I do need you.
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And you've been really, really there for
me in an unbelievable way
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lately, and it means a lot to me. But I
always would be, and you always have for
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me.
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Seeing you back together today, how do
you think your mom would feel?
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Happy. I think my mom is here.
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Yeah. Our mom is here.
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Kyle,
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while it's so encouraging to see you and
your sisters get back on track, the
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same cannot be said for all the
relationships in your life. Kyle and
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always seemed like they were rock solid
and madly in love.
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But this year, the public saw cracks
begin to form in their relationship.
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And now a marriage and Kyle's future.
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are left hanging in the balance.
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Thanks, Andy.
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I'm sorry. Watch.
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Honey, we can see the Eiffel Tower so
perfectly from here.
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It's like the lover's bridge.
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That's where you're right.
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Kyle and Mauricio forever.
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Perfect.
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Honey, I'm working. As soon as you can
wrap up your golf schedule, let me know.
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With the way my relationship is right
now, I'm not happy because of the lack
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time together.
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Hey. No, don't kiss me like that.
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I can kiss you however I want.
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I don't want to wake up and be like, who
are you?
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What are we supposed to talk about now?
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I told your mom you have a tattoo.
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What is wrong with you?
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But she meant the tattoo on me. So then
I said, maybe you don't. I said, I don't
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know for sure.
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Oh, this is what people talk about when
they go through a rough time.
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Whatever. I don't want to talk about
that right now. I don't want to talk
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it.
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In tabloids, Kyle and Mo are having
problems in their marriage.
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Mauricio may be having an affair.
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I usually see you and Mo together.
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I felt like I needed a little freedom.
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Then she's got a new band.
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Like, specifically away from your
husband?
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Is there something going on in your
personal life that you would like to
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What's with the new wedding band?
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This is what you're talking about. And I
thought it was a makeup band. So what
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you're saying is that my husband cheated
on me.
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Kyle does not want to address the
elephant in the room. Do you want my
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to have cheated and bought me that van?
Whoa. And he did not buy me? Let's not
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do that. Because he didn't. I bought it
myself.
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Is there something going on in your
marriage?
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This is Morgan.
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How did you guys met?
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He stalked me.
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Morgan is 100 % herself.
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I honestly was just really taken by
that. I'm just glad it's you out there
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having an affair.
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For once, it's me.
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Breaking news, Kyle and Mauricio have
officially split.
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Oh my God.
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The people?
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Kyle was lying to us this whole time. I
think you're right. It's a lot more than
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just a difficult year.
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Complete strangers are like, you made us
believe in true love and now it's
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false. This is true love. Everybody
else's opinion can fuck off.
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And if we can't work it out?
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That's okay.
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The marriage that I had is gone.
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One,
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two, three, make a wish.
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Everybody hold real still.
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Everybody smile at me.
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Gorgeous. What is the issue that the two
of you can't let go of?
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There were things that happened.
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That made me lose my trust I wasn't able
to
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Recover from
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Very very strong family
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and we always will be Always will be
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Stuff to watch
471
00:26:38,730 --> 00:26:42,150
At your final party last year, we saw
you and Mo on camera, and everything
472
00:26:42,150 --> 00:26:47,650
seemed good. When did things really
start to change? Is there an event that
473
00:26:47,650 --> 00:26:52,090
stands out as the beginning of what you
called your hard year?
474
00:26:53,850 --> 00:26:57,790
You know, like with any marriage,
there's issues that, you know, you have,
475
00:26:57,790 --> 00:26:58,790
they come up.
476
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,600
You get busy. You've got kids. My kids
are little.
477
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,260
I'm working. I'm being a mommy and doing
all that. And it gets put aside and
478
00:27:07,260 --> 00:27:08,260
then it will come up again.
479
00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:13,040
Some of the issues never went away.
480
00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:16,240
They were never really, like, worked on.
481
00:27:16,860 --> 00:27:20,820
And then something, like I said in my
interview, happened where I did lose my
482
00:27:20,820 --> 00:27:21,820
trust.
483
00:27:24,540 --> 00:27:25,540
Something that he did?
484
00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:37,560
Coming up, you've said we're separated,
we're broken up. No. So then when you
485
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,420
see him, like, partying it up in Aspen
with a bunch of women, how are you
486
00:27:41,420 --> 00:27:42,460
handling that?
487
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:51,780
So, Kyle, when did things really start
to change? Is there an
488
00:27:51,780 --> 00:27:58,320
event that stands out as the beginning
of what you called your hard year?
489
00:28:00,110 --> 00:28:04,050
You know, like with any marriage,
there's issues that, you know, you have,
490
00:28:04,050 --> 00:28:07,830
they come up, and then something, like I
said in my interview, happened where I
491
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:12,170
did lose my trust, and... Something that
he did?
492
00:28:15,470 --> 00:28:22,350
You know, I care about my family first,
and... I mean, I tried.
493
00:28:23,050 --> 00:28:29,150
I really did try, and... So then when I
couldn't...
494
00:28:30,919 --> 00:28:35,080
The kind of things that I had been, I
wouldn't say putting up with, but, you
495
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,620
know, just became more apparent to me, I
guess.
496
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:45,780
And I guess I couldn't do that anymore.
I finally had a breaking point, but I
497
00:28:45,780 --> 00:28:51,660
really thought it would come back, you
know. I thought, okay, well, this is
498
00:28:51,660 --> 00:28:52,660
a temporary thing.
499
00:28:52,980 --> 00:28:53,980
And?
500
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,200
And it didn't.
501
00:29:01,290 --> 00:29:02,390
Did you want it to?
502
00:29:03,310 --> 00:29:08,330
Of course. I wasn't married to this man
for 28 years because I was, I mean.
503
00:29:08,510 --> 00:29:12,210
You're not faking it at 28 years. You
know what I'm saying? Like, it's just,
504
00:29:12,210 --> 00:29:12,889
it's not.
505
00:29:12,890 --> 00:29:15,190
Anybody knows I did not want to be in
this position.
506
00:29:15,770 --> 00:29:22,490
You know, look, since the beginning of
this show, there were rumors
507
00:29:22,490 --> 00:29:26,150
about infidelity in your relationship.
And I'm even thinking, wasn't that what
508
00:29:26,150 --> 00:29:27,590
those tabloids were?
509
00:29:28,330 --> 00:29:31,070
that somehow appeared on that cast trip.
510
00:29:31,330 --> 00:29:34,290
Kyle, there is that story about Mauricio
cheating and whatnot.
511
00:29:34,550 --> 00:29:35,550
Like, what's up with that?
512
00:29:38,150 --> 00:29:42,950
You tell Brandy to pack the tabloids and
have the lies about Mauricio and them.
513
00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:46,670
Yeah. I'm pissed. I'm fucking pissed. I
don't know what you want me to tell you.
514
00:29:47,450 --> 00:29:48,450
Yes. Yes.
515
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:52,390
And he would say to me, you know, we
can't care. We know the truth. And, you
516
00:29:52,390 --> 00:29:55,950
know, and of course, there's always that
little voice. And I'm like, well, what
517
00:29:55,950 --> 00:29:58,780
if it's... It's true. People would say
these things all the time.
518
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,620
Even if they're not true. Yes, of
course, 100%. The damage is done no
519
00:30:02,620 --> 00:30:04,660
what. You've come through it. Yeah, I
know.
520
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,120
The shadow of doubt, you know.
521
00:30:07,820 --> 00:30:11,920
It's a campaign of whispers. It's a
campaign of whispers, you know. It
522
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,300
around, and then that's how it comes
ugly.
523
00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:20,280
Did those rumors over the years cause
you to chip away at your trust for him?
524
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,940
Yeah. They did.
525
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,400
And they made me feel insecure.
526
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:32,480
You know what, people I know, when
you're high profile, they're going to
527
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,260
you're this, you're that.
528
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:36,220
They're going to make stories up.
529
00:30:37,420 --> 00:30:39,640
They're trying to make you feel bad, and
it works.
530
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:43,160
And it does work. It does work. I mean,
it worked on you and I.
531
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,680
Right.
532
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,740
What was the story behind the DMs you
mentioned in Ojai?
533
00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:53,600
What is appropriate for husbands when it
comes to communicating with other women
534
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,680
on social media?
535
00:30:55,699 --> 00:30:59,240
You're not supposed to be communicating
with other women on social media. I
536
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,240
agree.
537
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,660
I've had, like, a fight with Moe over
that. I hate that.
538
00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:08,500
Oh, my God.
539
00:31:09,540 --> 00:31:10,540
Well,
540
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,620
you know, years ago, Moe didn't know
about, like, DMs.
541
00:31:16,220 --> 00:31:20,140
So I would, like, look and see, you
know, girls would always reach out to
542
00:31:20,180 --> 00:31:22,460
and he would never respond because he
didn't know that existed.
543
00:31:22,780 --> 00:31:23,719
Okay.
544
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,180
And I would just delete and block them.
Okay, good. He doesn't even know this,
545
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,100
by the way. Okay. If he sees this, he'll
know.
546
00:31:30,820 --> 00:31:34,000
So then he learned about them. Then I'm
like, why are you following this person
547
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,260
and liking this person's photos?
548
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,180
Oh, boy. And there's always so many,
like, girls from all over. And they're
549
00:31:40,180 --> 00:31:41,480
like, they want to join the agency.
550
00:31:41,780 --> 00:31:42,780
I'm like, I'm sure they do.
551
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:43,659
Oh, boy.
552
00:31:43,660 --> 00:31:47,060
And I've said it in the past. You don't
need to follow every single person that
553
00:31:47,060 --> 00:31:48,800
follows you. Right. Or every single
person.
554
00:31:49,580 --> 00:31:52,700
that tells people, like, I'm interested
in seeing what's going on in your life.
555
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,220
I want to look at you like that sends
the wrong message.
556
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,860
How did he respond to that? I mean,
there was always, you know, a reason
557
00:31:58,860 --> 00:32:03,400
gave, but they were not good enough
reasons for me. Also, it's their duty
558
00:32:04,060 --> 00:32:05,500
not make you feel uncomfortable.
559
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,340
If it bothers me, it hurts me that much.
Just don't do it.
560
00:32:08,620 --> 00:32:11,880
It's not that hard. It's not that big of
an ask. Right. This year, it seemed
561
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,700
like the two of you were struggling to
find time together as a couple,
562
00:32:15,820 --> 00:32:21,940
particularly as Mauricio's professional
obligations expanded. I have to say, I
563
00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:28,180
did not have it on my bingo card ever
that Mauricio would be on Dancing with
564
00:32:28,180 --> 00:32:30,300
Stars. That blew my mind. No, same.
565
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:36,510
That's when I thought, There is no way
in hell that Kyle would have okayed
566
00:32:36,750 --> 00:32:40,650
Just seemed out of character. Well, the
funny thing is that if our marriage was
567
00:32:40,650 --> 00:32:44,170
in the place it used to be, I would have
never have said yes.
568
00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:46,730
Right. But I was like, okay.
569
00:32:47,230 --> 00:32:48,770
Let me ask you something. Why, though?
570
00:32:49,250 --> 00:32:51,190
It's not like you would be jealous or
anything.
571
00:32:51,490 --> 00:32:52,490
Oh, yes, I would.
572
00:32:52,650 --> 00:32:54,450
Would you? Yeah, I would have.
573
00:32:54,940 --> 00:32:59,240
Really? Oh, that's why. On Dancing with
the Stars, Mauricio dedicated a very
574
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:05,000
suggestive of the dance and the
dedication to Kyle were 100 % an F you
575
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,320
done specifically by Mauricio to get
under her skin.
576
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,260
All of Dancing with the Stars is
suggestive. I'm sorry. Look, when you're
577
00:33:13,260 --> 00:33:15,100
the waltz, your pelvises are together.
578
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,360
The whole thing is partners.
579
00:33:16,580 --> 00:33:17,580
Well, how did you take it?
580
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:22,460
Did you see it? It was very hard for me
to watch.
581
00:33:22,860 --> 00:33:23,860
I wouldn't have cared.
582
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,780
How did you feel seeing photos of he and
Emma holding hands?
583
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,280
Not feeling good.
584
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,680
How did you take it, Tori?
585
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,140
I didn't like it.
586
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,620
When I saw it, it felt like me seeing PK
holding another woman's hand.
587
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:52,020
You've said we're separated, we're
broken up. No, we are separated. We are
588
00:33:52,020 --> 00:33:55,580
allowed to do what we want to do, each
of us. So then when you see him like
589
00:33:55,580 --> 00:34:00,140
partying it up in Aspen with a bunch of
women, I mean, does that, how are you
590
00:34:00,140 --> 00:34:01,200
handling that?
591
00:34:01,620 --> 00:34:03,500
It's weird because we live together in
the same house.
592
00:34:03,980 --> 00:34:07,460
So it's sort of like, what are you
doing?
593
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,400
Adam from Outwater Village said, Kyle's
dancing around the reason for her split.
594
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,000
What's the real reason and why won't she
just spit it out?
595
00:34:21,710 --> 00:34:24,909
Coming up... Is there anything going on
with Morgan?
596
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:26,850
It looked like you guys were
girlfriends.
597
00:34:29,150 --> 00:34:36,090
Adam from Outwater Village said,
598
00:34:36,170 --> 00:34:38,409
Kyle's dancing around the reason for her
split.
599
00:34:38,750 --> 00:34:42,030
What's the real reason, and why won't
she just spit it out?
600
00:34:42,350 --> 00:34:44,090
Because it's nobody's fucking business.
601
00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:54,570
So, Kyle, when you and... Mauricio, this
season, saw you together many times,
602
00:34:54,630 --> 00:34:58,770
and it was very awkward, and it was very
clear that your dynamic was in a
603
00:34:58,770 --> 00:35:02,530
totally different state. When you said
to him, don't kiss me like that.
604
00:35:03,450 --> 00:35:04,450
Yep.
605
00:35:06,830 --> 00:35:09,550
Hey. Well, don't kiss me like that.
606
00:35:10,430 --> 00:35:12,030
I could kiss you however I want.
607
00:35:13,470 --> 00:35:15,990
That was a particularly... I'll tell you
why.
608
00:35:28,660 --> 00:35:31,460
Um. Um.
609
00:35:41,470 --> 00:35:45,790
You are separated but still living under
one roof. Mm -hmm. Are there
610
00:35:45,790 --> 00:35:48,630
conversations about someone moving out?
611
00:35:49,090 --> 00:35:50,370
Yes, there has been now.
612
00:35:52,850 --> 00:35:54,090
Who would move out?
613
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:56,070
He
614
00:35:56,070 --> 00:36:02,590
would.
615
00:36:02,690 --> 00:36:03,690
He would move out.
616
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,680
How are the kids handling this?
617
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,460
My girls are so strong and supportive.
618
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,680
But, you know, it's painful for
everybody.
619
00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:21,040
It's very painful, even though you go
through things with people.
620
00:36:21,740 --> 00:36:24,540
He's my family. He's my niece's father.
621
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:30,780
And now looking back, I would say for
the last two, maybe three years.
622
00:36:31,570 --> 00:36:35,490
You've been traveling when you're not
doing housewives. You're going all over.
623
00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:38,450
And little by little, people enjoy some
success.
624
00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:41,270
And they start to go off in different
directions.
625
00:36:42,170 --> 00:36:46,570
And you're busy, like the hamster in the
cage, chasing your tail.
626
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:52,450
No time to think about anything. And
then all of a sudden, you have this
627
00:36:52,450 --> 00:36:57,630
devastation. But you were a little weird
for three years. Not with me.
628
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,280
Okay. That's actually not correct timing
with my marriage, to be honest.
629
00:37:03,940 --> 00:37:08,220
So the separation is definitive. Do you
talk about divorce, or you're just
630
00:37:08,220 --> 00:37:09,520
taking one step at a time?
631
00:37:11,780 --> 00:37:13,900
It's hard for us to say that word, I
think.
632
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:23,440
But, I mean, if he's looking for a place
to move out, I haven't really
633
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,220
seen any progress.
634
00:37:26,460 --> 00:37:27,460
You know, we get along.
635
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,740
Well, but like friends.
636
00:37:28,940 --> 00:37:32,500
Yeah. Are you hopeful they'll get back
together, Kathy?
637
00:37:33,140 --> 00:37:36,760
I only want what she wants.
638
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:42,100
I support you, and your happiness is the
most important thing.
639
00:37:42,380 --> 00:37:43,380
Yeah.
640
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:48,240
We're all hoping for the best in
whatever course this takes.
641
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,640
I want to turn to the person that got
everyone talking this season, and that's
642
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,640
your friend Morgan Wade.
643
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,880
There's been a big response to...
644
00:37:57,550 --> 00:38:03,170
The two of you, what's been her reaction
to seeing herself on the show?
645
00:38:03,590 --> 00:38:06,970
She's never seen the attention it gets.
It was a lot of scrutiny for her. She
646
00:38:06,970 --> 00:38:07,970
was not comfortable with.
647
00:38:08,110 --> 00:38:13,530
It's like every single day, like paid
sex, Daily Mail, TMZ, you know. Just
648
00:38:13,530 --> 00:38:15,370
speculating about the two of you? Yes.
649
00:38:15,690 --> 00:38:19,970
NYC Stephanie on Twitter said the
chemistry in Kyle and Morgan's first
650
00:38:19,970 --> 00:38:20,990
together is electric.
651
00:38:21,550 --> 00:38:23,790
You look like you'd be a little crazy.
652
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,118
Thanks, Morgan.
653
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,440
Really? Thank you. Well, I can get
fiery, not crazy.
654
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,500
See? It's already happening.
655
00:38:34,860 --> 00:38:40,440
JJ said Kyle's like a giddy schoolgirl
around her. I wonder if the group, did
656
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,380
you all think that they were together?
657
00:38:46,900 --> 00:38:47,900
I did.
658
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,400
You did? Yeah.
659
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,080
From the tabloid?
660
00:38:51,340 --> 00:38:52,900
I thought it before.
661
00:38:53,770 --> 00:38:56,090
I was sent stuff.
662
00:38:56,310 --> 00:39:00,130
Kathy, I was sent stuff. We had lunch
one day. Crystal kind of, like, was
663
00:39:00,130 --> 00:39:04,910
hinting around. You didn't even say the
name. You're just like, is Coach run? I
664
00:39:04,910 --> 00:39:09,710
just thought it was, like, way low -key,
but people sent me stuff like Instagram
665
00:39:09,710 --> 00:39:14,890
pictures. And I remember thinking,
they're together.
666
00:39:15,830 --> 00:39:17,170
Dory, what did you think?
667
00:39:19,230 --> 00:39:23,680
On Instagram, there were a lot of
pictures of... You guys.
668
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,440
And so then I remember thinking, are
they together?
669
00:39:28,660 --> 00:39:29,820
It looked like you guys were
girlfriends.
670
00:39:35,260 --> 00:39:40,020
Anna Marie, you said on the after show
that Kyle found someone in Morgan who
671
00:39:40,020 --> 00:39:41,540
makes her feel loved.
672
00:39:42,060 --> 00:39:48,840
Kyle found somebody who supports her and
makes her
673
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,260
feel loved.
674
00:39:51,260 --> 00:39:52,260
Expand on that.
675
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,380
Yeah, I mean, I think it's there, and
there are things that you can bond over.
676
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,000
You know, I think that's really
important, especially when you're going
677
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,280
such a tough time in your life.
678
00:39:59,780 --> 00:40:03,260
Garcelle and Sutton also had some
thoughts to share on the after show.
679
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,380
Kyle would drop a couple of things that
she did with Morgan that I thought, wow,
680
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:13,040
that's so, such a personal thing to do.
She went to the doctor with her, but I
681
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:18,800
thought to myself, wow, that's such a
personal thing, like, to go with someone
682
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:19,800
you just met.
683
00:40:20,130 --> 00:40:21,130
Hmm.
684
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:26,350
Orange Rhyme said, I feel like Kyle has
a big girl crush on Morgan, but I don't
685
00:40:26,350 --> 00:40:31,050
feel it's reciprocated. Randy DeSavage
said, this is the reason Morgan is
686
00:40:31,050 --> 00:40:35,470
friends with Kyle. She likes the clout.
Ladies, what do you think? That's
687
00:40:35,470 --> 00:40:39,370
ridiculous. She has critically acclaimed
music. Yeah.
688
00:40:40,650 --> 00:40:44,010
Conversely, you kind of made her a
household name.
689
00:40:45,950 --> 00:40:48,090
Like I said, you know, she cares about
making music.
690
00:40:49,049 --> 00:40:52,330
I think she would really give up being a
household name just to be able to keep
691
00:40:52,330 --> 00:40:53,830
making her music and not have that
scrutiny.
692
00:40:54,610 --> 00:40:56,970
So, like, when did you decide to do the
music video?
693
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:59,410
Like, when? Why or when? Like, when?
694
00:40:59,630 --> 00:41:00,448
Like, during?
695
00:41:00,450 --> 00:41:06,250
The music video was done actually right,
like, about, I want to say a month
696
00:41:06,250 --> 00:41:11,630
before that story broke about Momi. But
obviously once that story came out about
697
00:41:11,630 --> 00:41:15,130
Momi, we're not even making the video
after that. But, you know, we made it
698
00:41:15,130 --> 00:41:16,630
before. You had already done it. We'd
already done it.
699
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,640
So the purpose of that music video was
what?
700
00:41:20,140 --> 00:41:23,940
You know, she was on tour at the time,
and then she was going to be playing at
701
00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:28,880
Stagecoach, and she said, I want to come
do this for you to support you for, you
702
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,660
know, the event for Laureen, but then
you have to be in one of my videos.
703
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:37,240
I didn't really know the creative behind
it until I got there.
704
00:41:38,830 --> 00:41:42,930
If you get on the internet, you see
people are obsessed with us being
705
00:41:42,930 --> 00:41:47,670
and why we're friends. But we thought it
would be kind of a good idea and kind
706
00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:48,670
of poke fun at that.
707
00:41:49,070 --> 00:41:51,370
Well, if they're going to talk, you
might as well give them something to
708
00:41:51,370 --> 00:41:52,370
about.
709
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:59,430
And I said to the director, I've never
actually kissed anybody on camera,
710
00:41:59,510 --> 00:42:02,690
let alone a woman, or off camera. Right.
711
00:42:03,950 --> 00:42:06,310
I was very nervous and, you know,
anxious.
712
00:42:06,690 --> 00:42:13,370
But, I mean, if I'm being honest with
myself, I was obviously curious in order
713
00:42:13,370 --> 00:42:14,370
to say yes.
714
00:42:16,310 --> 00:42:19,830
I mean, I don't, I love, I mean, I don't
know. I just don't, I don't know.
715
00:42:20,170 --> 00:42:24,690
No, no, I'm not. I'm saying I was
obviously curious. I said yes for a
716
00:42:24,690 --> 00:42:27,510
mean, and she's, you know what? She's
hot. What can I say?
717
00:42:29,790 --> 00:42:30,910
Million dollar question.
718
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,720
Is there anything going on between the
two of you?
719
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,040
Kyle,
720
00:42:52,220 --> 00:42:53,580
million -dollar question.
721
00:42:54,020 --> 00:42:56,340
Is there anything going on with Morgan?
722
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:00,920
In that way?
723
00:43:01,340 --> 00:43:02,340
Yeah.
724
00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:04,900
No.
725
00:43:08,540 --> 00:43:09,540
Are you a couple?
726
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,840
No. Do you have feelings for her?
727
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:20,700
I mean, I love her, and she's my friend,
and I love her.
728
00:43:22,260 --> 00:43:24,720
Kathy, what do you think of Morgan?
You've hung out with her a bunch.
729
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,980
I have hung out with her a bunch, and I
just think she is funny.
730
00:43:30,980 --> 00:43:33,660
She's very bright, humble, refreshing.
731
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:39,860
And then when I saw her perform, I was
really blown away.
732
00:43:40,580 --> 00:43:43,480
Kyle, could you see yourself with
Morgan?
733
00:43:44,220 --> 00:43:45,680
I don't know. I don't know.
734
00:43:47,060 --> 00:43:51,880
I don't know. By the way, I mean, I
don't know. I don't know.
735
00:43:55,220 --> 00:43:56,560
Okay, that's not a no.
736
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,520
I'm evolving.
737
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:06,920
I'm changing. I'm clearly going through
some evolution of my own. And I
738
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,120
don't know. I don't know what my future
holds right now. Well, maybe next year
739
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,740
she'll be out here on the couch with us.
Who knows? You never know.
740
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,500
You never know. All right.
741
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:21,200
I'm going to leave it there. And this is
so odd because we've got Garcelle and
742
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:26,620
Sutton and Merce's remaining ashes in an
ambulance.
743
00:44:27,580 --> 00:44:33,160
On their way to the hospital, we're all
praying for Sutton. Yeah. Yeah,
744
00:44:33,180 --> 00:44:35,220
absolutely. And I'm glad she's getting
help.
745
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:40,960
And I would love to just ask each of you
something that you're going to take
746
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,400
away from this season. I want to start
with you, Anne -Marie.
747
00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:44,940
You had a rough ride.
748
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:50,180
Very rough ride. I hope you feel tonight
like you were able to mend some fences.
749
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:51,680
I think...
750
00:44:51,790 --> 00:44:56,630
It's just important for me to remember
that what is most important is happiness
751
00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:57,630
and health.
752
00:44:57,850 --> 00:44:59,590
Yeah. Crystal?
753
00:45:01,290 --> 00:45:06,290
That I shouldn't be afraid to speak up
because my voice matters.
754
00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:08,030
Yeah.
755
00:45:09,770 --> 00:45:10,770
Erica?
756
00:45:11,850 --> 00:45:12,850
I'm okay.
757
00:45:13,570 --> 00:45:18,910
Like, I'm proud that I showed up for
myself.
758
00:45:19,470 --> 00:45:20,730
It's been hard.
759
00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:24,200
But I feel so much better.
760
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,660
Yeah. Thank you. Kathy, feel good?
761
00:45:29,260 --> 00:45:34,680
I do. I'm really happy to be able to be
here with Kyle tonight and to be able to
762
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:39,000
speak. I really think that it's
wonderful that you girls, at the end of
763
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,580
do care about each other and have a
sisterhood.
764
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,140
And I really respect it.
765
00:45:46,340 --> 00:45:47,340
Nice.
766
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,420
Doreen, what about you?
767
00:45:51,020 --> 00:45:52,900
Not to trust.
768
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,120
Let me start again, Andy. Sorry.
769
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,220
Go ahead.
770
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,580
You didn't want to ask me the question.
No, I know I did. Go ahead.
771
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,400
Sorry.
772
00:46:10,460 --> 00:46:17,340
I am just by nature. If somebody's being
nice and someone is, you know, makes
773
00:46:17,340 --> 00:46:19,060
me feel like we're friends, I believe
it.
774
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:23,000
And I think I have to be a little less
naive.
775
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,080
Okay. Dorit, that was about Carsell,
what you were saying, right?
776
00:46:29,220 --> 00:46:30,220
Yeah.
777
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,220
Kyle, I'll let you have the last word.
778
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:41,040
While I may have lost what I felt was my
happily ever
779
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:47,520
after, I am strong enough and I'm going,
I will have my happily ever after no
780
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:48,520
matter what.
781
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,260
Okay. Thank you.
782
00:46:52,060 --> 00:46:56,380
A lot of optimism ending the season,
which I like.
783
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,340
And we miss Garcelle and Sutton.
784
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,680
I want to thank all of you at home for
watching. What a great season, ladies.
785
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,820
I'm Andy Cohen. Make sure you remind
everyone who you are because no one
786
00:47:08,820 --> 00:47:11,800
knows you. Sorry. They put it in a
prompter. I know.
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