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Tonight, the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion concludes.

Is Kathy coming?

Kathy?

Oh. Perfect.

Gorgeous. Here she comes, the grand dame of Beverly Hills.

Sometimes we do say things a little bit out of anger, and I am a hundred

times more sensitive than you.

Um, no.

Is there anything going on with Morgan?

It looked like you guys were girlfriends.

Um... You are separated but still living under one roof. Do

you talk about divorce?

It's hard for us to say that word, I think.

Are there conversations about someone moving out?

When did things really start to change? Is there an event?

Something happened where I did lose my trust.

Something that he did?

Erica, you said some women in this group fear Kathy.

Who do you think is most afraid of her?

Are you okay?

What's up? Are you okay?

What? Lay down.

Can she lay down? Oh, God.

Oh, God. This is making me nervous.

You're shaking.

You're shaking.

Oh, God.

No, hold on. Hold on. Can we call somebody, please?

So, Teddy commented on your drinking.

Yeah. She said you carry vodka around with you. Okay, in my purse, yeah. Yes.

Was she doing your dirty work? Absolutely not.

Well, you could have said, no, she doesn't. But it's the insinuation. I

say that. It's understanding your responsibility in the insinuation. You

got to understand this at some point, Kyle.

Kyle, you have been relentlessly mean to me. And mean jabs all season long. Oh,

my God. Yes, you have. And where did it start? And if you can't take

responsibility for it, it's going to make you insane. Why have you learned

like... Shut up sometimes and listen.

I want to know.

For someone who has lost someone, where was the compassion?

I should have... Why did I say to you? I could have been a better friend to you,

and I am sorry. And by the way, when you said that in the church, in Spain... I

said...

Yes, you were. Because I felt bad and we were in a house of God. So I was like,

I'm going to forgive her. You were faking it. No. I said, let me finish my

sentence. I wanted to forgive you and move on. But it was extremely hurtful at

that dinner party to sit there and be grilled about my marriage. But I didn't

say anything about your marriage. I was just asking questions.

All right. Well, where do you two go from here?

That's the question.

I love Sutton. I really did consider her my friend.

That's why it hurt me so much.

This may take some time, but I don't see something that we can't fix.

We're going to be fine.

And I think we both know that in our hearts. Yeah. And I'm, see, then I'll

getting teary because I miss her so much.

I miss talking to her, too. That's why I was so confused.

I think I just wanted support from everybody at that time instead of... All

right. Maybe you should hug it out.

All

right.

I'm going to leave it there.

We're going to take a break, and then we're going to bring your friend out.

Okay, what are we waiting on?

Is Kathy coming?

And then right at me right there. Perfect.

Gorgeous.

Thank you.

We're standing by to Mike, Kathy. Kathy is not Mike.

Okay.

Well, I guess we should wrap it up then, guys. Bye. Well, you know, I'm really

feeling like we need to go. I haven't even cried.

Well, then we can't leave until you do. You're about to. Oh, shut up. You are

about to.

Andy. Was Kathy supposed to be a surprise?

Yes.

Oh.

Oh,

gosh, this is hot.

I'm uncomfortable.

Yep. Oh, great.

Here she comes, everybody. The grand tom of Beverly Hills.

Hello. Not Lisa Vanderpump. Hi, baby.

Hello. Hi.

I texted you back when I woke up.

Because I love sparkly.

How are you?

Okay.

Okay.

Kathy Hilton, welcome back to the last place we thought we would see you again.

Sitting next to your sister at the reunion stage. Great to see you.

Thank you. It's great to see all of you. And I see that you are holding a

crystal as well.

I brought an extra one for us to share.

That's so sweet.

Kathy, how does it feel?

to be back and be back sitting next to Kyle. It feels really good. I believe

things happen for a reason, and I'm here. Of course, I wanted to see

and here to support Kyle. I'm happy you're here.

Kathy, have you seen the show this season? Oh, I watch all the clips.

Oh, you watch all the clips?

Yeah. Okay. You watch all the interwebs, you know, on Instagram. The interwebs.

Okay. You didn't watch...

No, I don't watch anybody's show, but I actually watch Crystal.

You know, I'm glad the two of you are doing better now, but Kyle and Kathy's

relationship has been under the microscope since day one.

And just last season, Kathy appeared to close the door on their relationship

together. But Kyle couldn't help but notice that some people here continued

blow in whatever direction Kathy and the wind from her box fan would take. them.

Watch.

This past year, you know, I had an issue with my oldest sister, Kathy.

That night, they were screaming at me in front of everybody, and it really hurt

me and embarrassed me.

If someone hurts me, I have to keep them at arm's length to protect myself,

blood included.

Why are you upset with me right now? Because I got upset.

Just say it. Why are you acting like a martyr? Like, it's just you.

But what came out of that is that we're not speaking now.

She gets so mean. I really can't handle the meanness, like, the way she talks.

You didn't say, this guy just hurt my feelings. I'm so embarrassed. He said,

are out of here. Everybody saw.

I know. And you looked at me like, you fucking leave me now. And I was like,

Kathy, first of all, I'm an adult. You can't talk to me like that.

Mom never wanted this kind of stuff. No. She would.

All about us sticking together. Friends come and go and people come and go.

Family stays.

I'm scared of her like this.

You're mad at me about the Kathy thing? That hasn't even registered to me.

If she admits that she is angry with me for being friends with Kathy, that means

she doesn't like Kathy. This is a love triangle gone awry.

You can go fuck yourself because you know the truth. You've had your own

situations with her, and you don't want to speak up. Oh, I didn't. Tell

everybody what Kathy did. You can just ask in public.

Kathy did not like that I did not stick up for her in the press. So she called

me, and she yelled at me. And I told Kyle, I see what you've experienced.

Yeah, but you were real quiet that day when we were all going to have a lot of

fun, weren't you?

Some women in this group fear Kathy because she holds the access to

they want. I don't really care if I get

invited to any of your Christmas parties or if I'm not on your list.

How do you feel about us being friends with Kathy?

I would like to feel like, you know, you guys aren't sitting around talking

about something. So I feel like you guys have your own relationship.

No. No.

I get it. You want to be friends with Kathy.

Do I think it's because she has a lot of parties?

I do.

All right.

We'll get to you two coming together, but Erica, you said some women in this

group fear Kathy because she holds the access to something they want. She can

lock you out of Beverly Hills or lock you out of parties, lock you out of

groups. Be careful.

No, actually, I saw that, and I played it.

Several times. And I sent it to people.

Erica, who do you think is most afraid of her in this group?

She's Beverly Hills.

Yeah. And she sets that standard. And there are a lot of women. You don't want

to run crossways with this one.

Right.

Are you okay?

What's wrong? Are you okay?

What? This is making me angry.

Oh, God.

What's wrong? You're shaking. You're shaking.

Oh, God. Can we call somebody, please?

Erica, you said some women in this group fear Kathy.

Who do you think is most afraid of her in this group?

She's a Beverly Hills.

Yeah. And you don't want to run crossways with this one.

Right. All right.

Are you OK? Are you OK?

Are you okay?

What's wrong? Are you okay? You want some water?

Oh, God.

Can we call somebody, please? You're shaking.

I don't want to lay down. I don't want to lay down.

No, no, no. Hold on. She's not sick. She's shaking. Why don't you sit down? I

don't think she should be walking. Let's lay down. Lay down. Lay down. Sit down.

Okay. No, I know, but you're shaking. You're shaking. I don't think this is

good. Oh, my God. That's scary.

She was saying she was hot a lot. A hot flash.

When you're 49 years old, it's bound to happen.

I'm going to put this on your arm, okay?

You're shaking a little bit. Do you feel dizzy or nauseous at all? Well, I got a

little scared.

Why? You're okay. You're okay. You're okay. Your blood pressure is high.

Your pulse is high.

You should call, like, 911 to come get her. She has to go get checked out

anyway. I think that you should get checked out. I don't think it's

that we call 911 for you. Thank you. We've got transport here that can take

gladly to local urgent care or to a hospital if you feel that that's

How have you been?

Good. I love the holidays so much, and I felt like I didn't get to enjoy it

enough. Is your tree still up? Do you still have your stuff up? I just took it

down. Oh, wow.

Well, why don't we just get her to lay down, and then we'll get them to get up.

You don't want to lay down? Well, you don't have to lay down out here, but I

just think maybe you could lay down on your couch in your dressing room. I

have steady feet.

Can we get her slippers?

Does she have a problem with her face? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Neuropathy. I don't understand what that is.

Your nerves? It's like pins and needles.

It's like kind of neurologic. Yes.

I'll be okay.

You're okay to walk? Yeah. Can someone walk with her? No. Her blood pressure is

very high.

That's as high as mine was.

That's scaring me.

You're okay. You're good.

You're fine. You're going to be okay.

Sutton, you're going to be okay.

You're going to be okay.

You're going to be okay.

I feel like she lost consciousness for a hot second.

As you're walking, you feel a little better? Yeah. Okay.

You look like you're shaking.

Yeah. Well, I got scared.

All right.

I think she knew it.

It's a good way to get out of being here.

Which you're right.

Exactly. What we can do is we can sit you down for now. Uh -huh.

But I really think that you need to go get checked out somewhere.

Okay. Do you want me to come?

Okay. I want to come.

Can I get something to eat?

Yeah. Yeah.

Somebody open the door, please. I got it. I got it.

Thank you.

So we'll get you inside. We'll close the door. We'll have a little privacy.

Okay. Okay.

Here,

your hands are shaking. Let me hold it.

I'm okay.

Here, it's just shaking.

You're going to be okay. We got you. Okay.

Okay. Everybody has PTSD and trauma.

That's a reunion first.

I know. I saw the same thing.

Ladies, I know that we all want her to get better. I think that the best thing

for her is for her to lay down and she'll be taken care of. And I just want

to keep talking.

We'll get to you two coming together, but I want to... Go back, though. Erica,

you said some women in this group fear Kathy.

That's not my social group. You don't care. Let me say this. You don't give to

even when you were married and things were, but you don't fear.

Yeah. I see Kathy coming from the dance floor. She says, the DJ's an old fucking

faggot and walked off.

Anyone that knows me knows I don't talk like that. And anyone that knows me

knows I'm not lying.

I don't know if that's a good thing or not. No, no, but I mean.

I will say this. She can pick up the phone and make things happen in a very

graceful way. I totally agree with Erica.

Kathy is a powerful person. She is Beverly Hills, exactly.

But do you think there's anybody that we know that thinks like that? I mean, can

you see me? Yes, I do. I do think that I'm saying that.

But I definitely in this group.

Yeah. You know, it's interesting because you were here and I think.

Lisa Rinna was right here, and it was not pretty.

You are the biggest bully in Hollywood, and everyone knows that. I saw the

devil. You were a fucking monster, and that was that.

And then you and I were together on Watch What Happens Live recently, and

said that Rinna sent you flowers. The two of you had a long phone call.

What did that conversation entail that allowed you to make up? Well, she sent

very beautiful flowers and a lovely note. Uh -huh.

What did the note say?

I'd like to do some healing, and, you know, I don't want to, if that's between

us, and when somebody extends all the branch like that.

That's nice.

And what is the status of your relationship with Lisa?

Well, I didn't really, you know, obviously after that happened, I kept my

distance, you know, and she did too. I bump into her, and she's always nice,

she'll send me a funny meme from, like, the show or something.

So, Kathy, how did you feel leaving last year's reunion? Did you think this was

it for you and Kyle? Never.

My relationship with my sister is more important than any TV show ever. I mean,

Kyle, think about it.

Have we ever had a blow -up like that? I mean, the press will say certain

things.

If I had to count, and I will hide my fingers, in all of our life where we

had a fight.

Because they make it like, oh, we had a fight, we had a fight. They're always

fighting.

A big fight like that?

Three? What did I have? Absolutely did. So, I mean, we're sisters.

That's going to happen.

Well, Kathy, it's no secret that Mauricio starting the agency created

between your families. I have been approached to...

create our own company. And it's so difficult for me to deal with that

of family.

Here is my sister, my brother -in -law, my family, and I don't want them to be

upset. Mo even wrote in his book regarding Rick's company that if they

what I deserved and showed me an inkling of professional love, he would have

stayed, but they didn't see it that way. Those are all quotes.

When he left, he did call on a Thursday.

Okay. And Rick said, okay. He said, when are you planning on leaving? And he

said, on Friday. And he said, your family, just know opening your own

is tough. The door is always open for you.

Just don't poach on my staff or my agents.

And did he?

A few. And that put Kyle and I in a kind of a funky.

And you and Mo in a bad spot.

I would think. Right. But let me say this, and Kyle, you do know this,

you... I don't want to get into that stuff. I won't. I really don't. But Rick

did. But he would... We also had people that were under him in the Umansky group

at Hilton Highland. Right.

So... Yeah.

So... I didn't care that much. It's okay.

You're going to be okay.

Have you ever had anything like this happen before?

No. Never? Yeah, we have crack. Let me get another blood pressure real fast

while we wait.

You don't feel nauseous or anything, right? I feel a little nauseous. Okay. I

feel a little sleepy.

Okay. Well, it seems like you're having a lot more symptoms than I'm seeing at

first. Yeah.

I'll come with you. Okay.

She's still shaking.

Is she? Yeah.

She needs to go. Okay.

You want to change? You want to go with her? Yeah. Okay, great. Yeah, Bernie,

change. A thousand.

I get that.

We're all going to be out of bed.

We're going to go to the hospital.

Okay. I need my phone, though. We were going to go to dinner. I need to cancel

dinner. Where's your phone?

Um, I'm on stage.

Behind the pillow.

Um, just want to let you know, Sutton is okay, but they're going to take her to

the hospital out of an abundance of caution, and Garcelle's going with her

the hospital.

We're all praying for Sutton. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

So... I just want to grab Garcelle and Sutton's phones, and then we've also got

Merce Cunningham's ashes here. I think they're all here.

Coming up, when did things really start to change? Is there an event?

Something happened where I did lose my cry?

Something that he did?

I just want to grab Garcelle and Sutton's phones, and then we've also got

Cunningham's ashes here. I think they're all in here.

He's in the purse again. He's in the purse again.

There you go.

Merce is in there?

Yeah, Merce is in there. I thought we set him free.

She kept a little more of it.

The ashes to the reunion.

I feel honored that Merce Cunningham is here. Well, at least give her a seat.

I'll go on there myself.

I got your phone.

Okay. Feel better, okay? Okay. Love you.

Love you. Bye, Garcelle.

Want to take off your jacket?

No, Garcelle. Okay, come on.

You're not going to die.

Would you have more people to wrestle together when you go?

So how did the two of you come back together, Kathy and Kyle? I mean, what

happened? Because we saw this season you were estranged. Our niece, Whitney, got

married. So there was a shower. Kim's daughter.

Right. So there was a shower. So I saw Kathy and the girls for the first time

there. I'm sorry.

It wasn't useful.

It was not your fault. Get the video. Get the video. I got the video.

It was not your fault.

And then they all came to my house in Aspen for like a welcome dinner party.

Okay. And then it just sort of like broke down. And it was beautiful. And

the next day, so silly, but I've been there so long.

Annie, there's no music and nobody's here.

Kyle go, oh, my God, that's my sister Kathy.

And she came and sat with me.

And I'm, oh.

You missed her. She was, like, really happy and proud and, like, no one was

there. And so I felt so.

Included. Included and happy.

Oh, that's great. Wow.

That's really nice. Here's a Kleenex.

Kathy, on Bravo's Hot Mike podcast, Kyle worried the things that she said on the

show could ruin your reconciliation with her.

I was very, like, honest in the moment. And now I'm stressed that, you know,

what did I say in the moments when I thought we were done?

Because I don't want that to kick everything up and ruin my relationship

So that scares me.

She warned me. She did. She said, I feel so bad. We're in such a great place.

Sometimes we do see things a little bit out of anger.

And, you know, I am 100 times more sensitive than you.

Okay. Do you agree?

No. I may come across like that sometimes.

That doesn't mean that you're not a sensitive person, but your vibe is

Yours is very strong, too. I don't think you realize how strong yours is.

I really feel.

That you love me very much. I do love you very much.

I like to feel that I need you.

I want to be needed. I do need you.

I do need you.

And you've been really, really there for me in an unbelievable way

lately, and it means a lot to me. But I always would be, and you always have for

me.

Seeing you back together today, how do you think your mom would feel?

Happy. I think my mom is here.

Yeah. Our mom is here.

Kyle,

while it's so encouraging to see you and your sisters get back on track, the

same cannot be said for all the relationships in your life. Kyle and

always seemed like they were rock solid and madly in love.

But this year, the public saw cracks begin to form in their relationship.

And now a marriage and Kyle's future.

are left hanging in the balance.

Thanks, Andy.

I'm sorry. Watch.

Honey, we can see the Eiffel Tower so perfectly from here.

It's like the lover's bridge.

That's where you're right.

Kyle and Mauricio forever.

Perfect.

Honey, I'm working. As soon as you can wrap up your golf schedule, let me know.

With the way my relationship is right now, I'm not happy because of the lack

time together.

Hey. No, don't kiss me like that.

I can kiss you however I want.

I don't want to wake up and be like, who are you?

What are we supposed to talk about now?

I told your mom you have a tattoo.

What is wrong with you?

But she meant the tattoo on me. So then I said, maybe you don't. I said, I don't

know for sure.

Oh, this is what people talk about when they go through a rough time.

Whatever. I don't want to talk about that right now. I don't want to talk

it.

In tabloids, Kyle and Mo are having problems in their marriage.

Mauricio may be having an affair.

I usually see you and Mo together.

I felt like I needed a little freedom.

Then she's got a new band.

Like, specifically away from your husband?

Is there something going on in your personal life that you would like to

What's with the new wedding band?

This is what you're talking about. And I thought it was a makeup band. So what

you're saying is that my husband cheated on me.

Kyle does not want to address the elephant in the room. Do you want my

to have cheated and bought me that van? Whoa. And he did not buy me? Let's not

do that. Because he didn't. I bought it myself.

Is there something going on in your marriage?

This is Morgan.

How did you guys met?

He stalked me.

Morgan is 100 % herself.

I honestly was just really taken by that. I'm just glad it's you out there

having an affair.

For once, it's me.

Breaking news, Kyle and Mauricio have officially split.

Oh my God.

The people?

Kyle was lying to us this whole time. I think you're right. It's a lot more than

just a difficult year.

Complete strangers are like, you made us believe in true love and now it's

false. This is true love. Everybody else's opinion can fuck off.

And if we can't work it out?

That's okay.

The marriage that I had is gone.

One,

two, three, make a wish.

Everybody hold real still.

Everybody smile at me.

Gorgeous. What is the issue that the two of you can't let go of?

There were things that happened.

That made me lose my trust I wasn't able to

Recover from

Very very strong family

and we always will be Always will be

Stuff to watch

At your final party last year, we saw you and Mo on camera, and everything

seemed good. When did things really start to change? Is there an event that

stands out as the beginning of what you called your hard year?

You know, like with any marriage, there's issues that, you know, you have,

they come up.

You get busy. You've got kids. My kids are little.

I'm working. I'm being a mommy and doing all that. And it gets put aside and

then it will come up again.

Some of the issues never went away.

They were never really, like, worked on.

And then something, like I said in my interview, happened where I did lose my

trust.

Something that he did?

Coming up, you've said we're separated, we're broken up. No. So then when you

see him, like, partying it up in Aspen with a bunch of women, how are you

handling that?

So, Kyle, when did things really start to change? Is there an

event that stands out as the beginning of what you called your hard year?

You know, like with any marriage, there's issues that, you know, you have,

they come up, and then something, like I said in my interview, happened where I

did lose my trust, and... Something that he did?

You know, I care about my family first, and... I mean, I tried.

I really did try, and... So then when I couldn't...

The kind of things that I had been, I wouldn't say putting up with, but, you

know, just became more apparent to me, I guess.

And I guess I couldn't do that anymore. I finally had a breaking point, but I

really thought it would come back, you know. I thought, okay, well, this is

a temporary thing.

And?

And it didn't.

Did you want it to?

Of course. I wasn't married to this man for 28 years because I was, I mean.

You're not faking it at 28 years. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just,

it's not.

Anybody knows I did not want to be in this position.

You know, look, since the beginning of this show, there were rumors

about infidelity in your relationship. And I'm even thinking, wasn't that what

those tabloids were?

that somehow appeared on that cast trip.

Kyle, there is that story about Mauricio cheating and whatnot.

Like, what's up with that?

You tell Brandy to pack the tabloids and have the lies about Mauricio and them.

Yeah. I'm pissed. I'm fucking pissed. I don't know what you want me to tell you.

Yes. Yes.

And he would say to me, you know, we can't care. We know the truth. And, you

know, and of course, there's always that little voice. And I'm like, well, what

if it's... It's true. People would say these things all the time.

Even if they're not true. Yes, of course, 100%. The damage is done no

what. You've come through it. Yeah, I know.

The shadow of doubt, you know.

It's a campaign of whispers. It's a campaign of whispers, you know. It

around, and then that's how it comes ugly.

Did those rumors over the years cause you to chip away at your trust for him?

Yeah. They did.

And they made me feel insecure.

You know what, people I know, when you're high profile, they're going to

you're this, you're that.

They're going to make stories up.

They're trying to make you feel bad, and it works.

And it does work. It does work. I mean, it worked on you and I.

Right.

What was the story behind the DMs you mentioned in Ojai?

What is appropriate for husbands when it comes to communicating with other women

on social media?

You're not supposed to be communicating with other women on social media. I

agree.

I've had, like, a fight with Moe over that. I hate that.

Oh, my God.

Well,

you know, years ago, Moe didn't know about, like, DMs.

So I would, like, look and see, you know, girls would always reach out to

and he would never respond because he didn't know that existed.

Okay.

And I would just delete and block them. Okay, good. He doesn't even know this,

by the way. Okay. If he sees this, he'll know.

So then he learned about them. Then I'm like, why are you following this person

and liking this person's photos?

Oh, boy. And there's always so many, like, girls from all over. And they're

like, they want to join the agency.

I'm like, I'm sure they do.

Oh, boy.

And I've said it in the past. You don't need to follow every single person that

follows you. Right. Or every single person.

that tells people, like, I'm interested in seeing what's going on in your life.

I want to look at you like that sends the wrong message.

How did he respond to that? I mean, there was always, you know, a reason

gave, but they were not good enough reasons for me. Also, it's their duty

not make you feel uncomfortable.

If it bothers me, it hurts me that much. Just don't do it.

It's not that hard. It's not that big of an ask. Right. This year, it seemed

like the two of you were struggling to find time together as a couple,

particularly as Mauricio's professional obligations expanded. I have to say, I

did not have it on my bingo card ever that Mauricio would be on Dancing with

Stars. That blew my mind. No, same.

That's when I thought, There is no way in hell that Kyle would have okayed

Just seemed out of character. Well, the funny thing is that if our marriage was

in the place it used to be, I would have never have said yes.

Right. But I was like, okay.

Let me ask you something. Why, though?

It's not like you would be jealous or anything.

Oh, yes, I would.

Would you? Yeah, I would have.

Really? Oh, that's why. On Dancing with the Stars, Mauricio dedicated a very

suggestive of the dance and the dedication to Kyle were 100 % an F you

done specifically by Mauricio to get under her skin.

All of Dancing with the Stars is suggestive. I'm sorry. Look, when you're

the waltz, your pelvises are together.

The whole thing is partners.

Well, how did you take it?

Did you see it? It was very hard for me to watch.

I wouldn't have cared.

How did you feel seeing photos of he and Emma holding hands?

Not feeling good.

How did you take it, Tori?

I didn't like it.

When I saw it, it felt like me seeing PK holding another woman's hand.

You've said we're separated, we're broken up. No, we are separated. We are

allowed to do what we want to do, each of us. So then when you see him like

partying it up in Aspen with a bunch of women, I mean, does that, how are you

handling that?

It's weird because we live together in the same house.

So it's sort of like, what are you doing?

Adam from Outwater Village said, Kyle's dancing around the reason for her split.

What's the real reason and why won't she just spit it out?

Coming up... Is there anything going on with Morgan?

It looked like you guys were girlfriends.

Adam from Outwater Village said,

Kyle's dancing around the reason for her split.

What's the real reason, and why won't she just spit it out?

Because it's nobody's fucking business.

So, Kyle, when you and... Mauricio, this season, saw you together many times,

and it was very awkward, and it was very clear that your dynamic was in a

totally different state. When you said to him, don't kiss me like that.

Yep.

Hey. Well, don't kiss me like that.

I could kiss you however I want.

That was a particularly... I'll tell you why.

Um. Um.

You are separated but still living under one roof. Mm -hmm. Are there

conversations about someone moving out?

Yes, there has been now.

Who would move out?

He

would.

He would move out.

How are the kids handling this?

My girls are so strong and supportive.

But, you know, it's painful for everybody.

It's very painful, even though you go through things with people.

He's my family. He's my niece's father.

And now looking back, I would say for the last two, maybe three years.

You've been traveling when you're not doing housewives. You're going all over.

And little by little, people enjoy some success.

And they start to go off in different directions.

And you're busy, like the hamster in the cage, chasing your tail.

No time to think about anything. And then all of a sudden, you have this

devastation. But you were a little weird for three years. Not with me.

Okay. That's actually not correct timing with my marriage, to be honest.

So the separation is definitive. Do you talk about divorce, or you're just

taking one step at a time?

It's hard for us to say that word, I think.

But, I mean, if he's looking for a place to move out, I haven't really

seen any progress.

You know, we get along.

Well, but like friends.

Yeah. Are you hopeful they'll get back together, Kathy?

I only want what she wants.

I support you, and your happiness is the most important thing.

Yeah.

We're all hoping for the best in whatever course this takes.

I want to turn to the person that got everyone talking this season, and that's

your friend Morgan Wade.

There's been a big response to...

The two of you, what's been her reaction to seeing herself on the show?

She's never seen the attention it gets. It was a lot of scrutiny for her. She

was not comfortable with.

It's like every single day, like paid sex, Daily Mail, TMZ, you know. Just

speculating about the two of you? Yes.

NYC Stephanie on Twitter said the chemistry in Kyle and Morgan's first

together is electric.

You look like you'd be a little crazy.

Thanks, Morgan.

Really? Thank you. Well, I can get fiery, not crazy.

See? It's already happening.

JJ said Kyle's like a giddy schoolgirl around her. I wonder if the group, did

you all think that they were together?

I did.

You did? Yeah.

From the tabloid?

I thought it before.

I was sent stuff.

Kathy, I was sent stuff. We had lunch one day. Crystal kind of, like, was

hinting around. You didn't even say the name. You're just like, is Coach run? I

just thought it was, like, way low -key, but people sent me stuff like Instagram

pictures. And I remember thinking, they're together.

Dory, what did you think?

On Instagram, there were a lot of pictures of... You guys.

And so then I remember thinking, are they together?

It looked like you guys were girlfriends.

Anna Marie, you said on the after show that Kyle found someone in Morgan who

makes her feel loved.

Kyle found somebody who supports her and makes her

feel loved.

Expand on that.

Yeah, I mean, I think it's there, and there are things that you can bond over.

You know, I think that's really important, especially when you're going

such a tough time in your life.

Garcelle and Sutton also had some thoughts to share on the after show.

Kyle would drop a couple of things that she did with Morgan that I thought, wow,

that's so, such a personal thing to do. She went to the doctor with her, but I

thought to myself, wow, that's such a personal thing, like, to go with someone

you just met.

Hmm.

Orange Rhyme said, I feel like Kyle has a big girl crush on Morgan, but I don't

feel it's reciprocated. Randy DeSavage said, this is the reason Morgan is

friends with Kyle. She likes the clout. Ladies, what do you think? That's

ridiculous. She has critically acclaimed music. Yeah.

Conversely, you kind of made her a household name.

Like I said, you know, she cares about making music.

I think she would really give up being a household name just to be able to keep

making her music and not have that scrutiny.

So, like, when did you decide to do the music video?

Like, when? Why or when? Like, when?

Like, during?

The music video was done actually right, like, about, I want to say a month

before that story broke about Momi. But obviously once that story came out about

Momi, we're not even making the video after that. But, you know, we made it

before. You had already done it. We'd already done it.

So the purpose of that music video was what?

You know, she was on tour at the time, and then she was going to be playing at

Stagecoach, and she said, I want to come do this for you to support you for, you

know, the event for Laureen, but then you have to be in one of my videos.

I didn't really know the creative behind it until I got there.

If you get on the internet, you see people are obsessed with us being

and why we're friends. But we thought it would be kind of a good idea and kind

of poke fun at that.

Well, if they're going to talk, you might as well give them something to

about.

And I said to the director, I've never actually kissed anybody on camera,

let alone a woman, or off camera. Right.

I was very nervous and, you know, anxious.

But, I mean, if I'm being honest with myself, I was obviously curious in order

to say yes.

I mean, I don't, I love, I mean, I don't know. I just don't, I don't know.

No, no, I'm not. I'm saying I was obviously curious. I said yes for a

mean, and she's, you know what? She's hot. What can I say?

Million dollar question.

Is there anything going on between the two of you?

Kyle,

million -dollar question.

Is there anything going on with Morgan?

In that way?

Yeah.

No.

Are you a couple?

No. Do you have feelings for her?

I mean, I love her, and she's my friend, and I love her.

Kathy, what do you think of Morgan? You've hung out with her a bunch.

I have hung out with her a bunch, and I just think she is funny.

She's very bright, humble, refreshing.

And then when I saw her perform, I was really blown away.

Kyle, could you see yourself with Morgan?

I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. By the way, I mean, I don't know. I don't know.

Okay, that's not a no.

I'm evolving.

I'm changing. I'm clearly going through some evolution of my own. And I

don't know. I don't know what my future holds right now. Well, maybe next year

she'll be out here on the couch with us. Who knows? You never know.

You never know. All right.

I'm going to leave it there. And this is so odd because we've got Garcelle and

Sutton and Merce's remaining ashes in an ambulance.

On their way to the hospital, we're all praying for Sutton. Yeah. Yeah,

absolutely. And I'm glad she's getting help.

And I would love to just ask each of you something that you're going to take

away from this season. I want to start with you, Anne -Marie.

You had a rough ride.

Very rough ride. I hope you feel tonight like you were able to mend some fences.

I think...

It's just important for me to remember that what is most important is happiness

and health.

Yeah. Crystal?

That I shouldn't be afraid to speak up because my voice matters.

Yeah.

Erica?

I'm okay.

Like, I'm proud that I showed up for myself.

It's been hard.

But I feel so much better.

Yeah. Thank you. Kathy, feel good?

I do. I'm really happy to be able to be here with Kyle tonight and to be able to

speak. I really think that it's wonderful that you girls, at the end of

do care about each other and have a sisterhood.

And I really respect it.

Nice.

Doreen, what about you?

Not to trust.

Let me start again, Andy. Sorry.

Go ahead.

You didn't want to ask me the question. No, I know I did. Go ahead.

Sorry.

I am just by nature. If somebody's being nice and someone is, you know, makes

me feel like we're friends, I believe it.

And I think I have to be a little less naive.

Okay. Dorit, that was about Carsell, what you were saying, right?

Yeah.

Kyle, I'll let you have the last word.

While I may have lost what I felt was my happily ever

after, I am strong enough and I'm going, I will have my happily ever after no

matter what.

Okay. Thank you.

A lot of optimism ending the season, which I like.

And we miss Garcelle and Sutton.

I want to thank all of you at home for watching. What a great season, ladies.

I'm Andy Cohen. Make sure you remind everyone who you are because no one

knows you. Sorry. They put it in a prompter. I know.