All language subtitles for My.Cat.from.Hell.S9E08

af Afrikaans
ak Akan
sq Albanian
am Amharic
ar Arabic
hy Armenian
az Azerbaijani
eu Basque
be Belarusian
bem Bemba
bn Bengali
bh Bihari
bs Bosnian
br Breton
bg Bulgarian
km Cambodian
ca Catalan
ceb Cebuano
chr Cherokee
ny Chichewa
zh-CN Chinese (Simplified)
zh-TW Chinese (Traditional)
co Corsican
hr Croatian
cs Czech
da Danish
nl Dutch
eo Esperanto
et Estonian
ee Ewe
fo Faroese
tl Filipino
fi Finnish
fr French
fy Frisian
gaa Ga
gl Galician
ka Georgian
el Greek
gn Guarani
gu Gujarati
ht Haitian Creole
ha Hausa
haw Hawaiian
iw Hebrew
hi Hindi
hmn Hmong
hu Hungarian
is Icelandic
ig Igbo
id Indonesian
ia Interlingua
ga Irish
it Italian
ja Japanese
jw Javanese
kn Kannada
kk Kazakh
rw Kinyarwanda
rn Kirundi
kg Kongo
ko Korean
kri Krio (Sierra Leone)
ku Kurdish
ckb Kurdish (Soranรฎ)
ky Kyrgyz
lo Laothian
la Latin
lv Latvian
ln Lingala
lt Lithuanian
loz Lozi
lg Luganda
ach Luo
lb Luxembourgish
mk Macedonian
mg Malagasy
ms Malay
ml Malayalam
mt Maltese
mi Maori
mr Marathi
mfe Mauritian Creole
mo Moldavian
mn Mongolian
my Myanmar (Burmese)
sr-ME Montenegrin
ne Nepali
pcm Nigerian Pidgin
nso Northern Sotho
no Norwegian
nn Norwegian (Nynorsk)
oc Occitan
or Oriya
om Oromo
ps Pashto
fa Persian
pl Polish
pt-BR Portuguese (Brazil)
pt Portuguese (Portugal)
pa Punjabi
qu Quechua
ro Romanian
rm Romansh
nyn Runyakitara
ru Russian
sm Samoan
gd Scots Gaelic
sr Serbian
sh Serbo-Croatian
st Sesotho
tn Setswana
crs Seychellois Creole
sn Shona
sd Sindhi
si Sinhalese
sk Slovak
sl Slovenian
so Somali
es Spanish
es-419 Spanish (Latin American)
su Sundanese
sw Swahili
sv Swedish
tg Tajik
ta Tamil
tt Tatar
te Telugu
th Thai
ti Tigrinya
to Tonga
lua Tshiluba
tum Tumbuka
tr Turkish
tk Turkmen
tw Twi
ug Uighur
uk Ukrainian
ur Urdu
uz Uzbek
vi Vietnamese
cy Welsh
wo Wolof
xh Xhosa
yi Yiddish
yo Yoruba
zu Zulu
Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,920 I have a cat named Callie, but she's not really a social cat. 2 00:00:04,180 --> 00:00:07,620 Oh, OK. OK, we're going to back up. We're going to back up. I took her to 3 00:00:07,620 --> 00:00:08,620 vet. 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,200 They don't know why Callie is so anxious. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,260 I really need help to fix Callie's aggression issues. 6 00:00:17,500 --> 00:00:23,160 I had a cat before that I was in a similar situation, and she would attack 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:24,560 So I had to put her down. 8 00:00:26,420 --> 00:00:28,340 So now I'm at that point with Callie. 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,420 But I don't want to give her up. 10 00:00:31,620 --> 00:00:33,660 Curtis Jr., he's a holy terror. 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,000 He eats everything, even my couch. 12 00:00:36,420 --> 00:00:40,080 It's a couch from hell, like my cat from hell. And I'd like to get a new couch, 13 00:00:40,180 --> 00:00:44,780 but I think I need to declaw him to do it. I'm at my wit's end. I don't know 14 00:00:44,780 --> 00:00:49,240 what to do about him. He's out of control. If Jackson doesn't help me, I 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,860 going to get him declawed. No, no, I never want to hear you talking about 16 00:00:52,860 --> 00:00:53,860 declawing, ever. 17 00:00:57,030 --> 00:00:58,190 I'm Jack from Galaxy. 18 00:00:58,390 --> 00:00:59,630 Oh, my God, I love my job. 19 00:00:59,910 --> 00:01:04,390 The animal behavior that guardians call when they're dealing with a difficult 20 00:01:04,390 --> 00:01:05,390 cat. 21 00:01:05,790 --> 00:01:08,530 That really ups the stakes a little bit here. 22 00:01:08,890 --> 00:01:12,230 I'm out to prove that there is no such thing as a bad cat. 23 00:01:12,450 --> 00:01:14,750 Just a cat that needs my help. Thank you. 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,340 I'm Tara, and I have a two -year -old calico mix named Callie. 25 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,040 I found Callie in my backyard. 26 00:01:35,420 --> 00:01:39,800 Her eyes weren't even open yet, and I decided to take her in and keep her 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:45,400 Did you miss me? For the first year, it was just me and Callie, and then it 28 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,940 wasn't until about a year that I started having, like, people from school come 29 00:01:48,940 --> 00:01:51,340 over. Having friends over for the night. 30 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,660 Good night. 31 00:01:55,180 --> 00:01:57,180 And that's when she kind of took a turn. 32 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,960 And I realized that she wasn't really a social cat. 33 00:02:02,660 --> 00:02:09,020 The first time I had a friend come over, Callie totally lost it. 34 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,980 I'd never seen her filled with anxiety or scared like that. 35 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,440 I took her to the vet. 36 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,560 They don't know why Callie is so anxious. 37 00:02:30,260 --> 00:02:34,000 I really need help to fix Callie's aggression issues. 38 00:02:36,060 --> 00:02:40,780 Because I can't physically, mentally, emotionally just give up on her. 39 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:42,420 It can't happen. 40 00:02:47,420 --> 00:02:50,760 I'm on my way to meet Tara, a young woman who's living alone with her cat 41 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,440 Callie. One of the reasons she's living alone is because Callie is so incredibly 42 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,260 aggressive with anyone who's not Tara that she's afraid to have visitors over 43 00:02:58,260 --> 00:03:01,920 all. So I'm going to get over there right now with the hopes that I can help 44 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:03,800 Callie and Tara get a fresh start. 45 00:03:06,900 --> 00:03:08,460 Hey. Hi, how are you? 46 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,480 So, tell me what's going on with Callie. Her mom... 47 00:03:12,830 --> 00:03:16,690 Left her to die. She had another respiratory infection, so I took her in 48 00:03:16,690 --> 00:03:17,668 bottle fed her. 49 00:03:17,670 --> 00:03:19,730 Oh. I couldn't just leave her out there. 50 00:03:19,950 --> 00:03:22,510 So what happened? I was a full -time student. 51 00:03:22,730 --> 00:03:25,610 I didn't really have any friends because I had just moved to California. 52 00:03:25,970 --> 00:03:29,630 So it was just me and her always, did you miss me? So then I started making 53 00:03:29,630 --> 00:03:31,890 friends, but she would not have it. 54 00:03:32,470 --> 00:03:36,530 She was so territorial of me, of my apartment, of everything. 55 00:03:36,790 --> 00:03:38,790 The first person I had over, she just attacked. 56 00:03:40,430 --> 00:03:41,470 Oh my gosh. 57 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,600 Kittens go through what's called the sensitive phase of social development, 58 00:03:44,740 --> 00:03:47,980 learning much of what will inform their life with humans by the time they're 59 00:03:47,980 --> 00:03:49,280 only nine weeks old. 60 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,280 Callie's only human interaction during that time was with Tara, and that 61 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,660 extended for the first year of her life. 62 00:03:55,940 --> 00:04:00,320 So now, as an adult cat, the only human that Callie will trust is Tara. 63 00:04:00,740 --> 00:04:02,920 What was the damage that Callie did to the person? 64 00:04:03,220 --> 00:04:04,220 She bit your blood. 65 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:06,580 No! Oh, God. 66 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,100 She goes to pet, and she's like... Hell no. To the point where she's being so 67 00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:13,160 aggressive that she won't let anyone walk by. 68 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,660 Because at that point, when she's activated like that, you can't touch her 69 00:04:17,660 --> 00:04:18,839 either. Yeah, I can't calm her down. 70 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:21,239 It's okay. 71 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,500 It's just me. I even feel my energy. I'm afraid of her at that point. 72 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,520 It's just me, Cal. 73 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,920 Is there any human being she's cool with besides you? No. 74 00:04:32,220 --> 00:04:33,220 Nobody. 75 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,520 My one girlfriend, Erin, would watch Callie, and Callie hasn't budged. 76 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:40,800 Your cat does not like me. 77 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,580 Can you try to pet her? No. I'm scared. 78 00:04:44,140 --> 00:04:47,280 So she hasn't warmed up to one human being beside you. 79 00:04:47,630 --> 00:04:51,370 You know, normally, if somebody has an antisocial cat and company comes over, I 80 00:04:51,370 --> 00:04:55,450 might make the suggestion to just lock the cat up in your bedroom while company 81 00:04:55,450 --> 00:05:01,330 comes over. But in this case, Callie needs help. She is completely 82 00:05:01,330 --> 00:05:03,650 and it makes no sense just to put a Band -Aid on the situation. 83 00:05:04,390 --> 00:05:06,270 What are you left with at this point? What are you going to do? 84 00:05:06,710 --> 00:05:10,790 Well, that's the point where I'm stuck at because I had a cat before that I was 85 00:05:10,790 --> 00:05:15,230 in a similar situation, and she would attack me. So I had to put her up for 86 00:05:15,230 --> 00:05:17,690 adoption, and she wasn't adoptable, and they had to put her down. 87 00:05:20,590 --> 00:05:26,650 Her name was Moosh, and I absolutely loved her. She was the sweetest thing, 88 00:05:26,650 --> 00:05:29,350 giving her up was so hard. 89 00:05:29,770 --> 00:05:31,710 How did you find out that she didn't get adopted? 90 00:05:32,250 --> 00:05:35,630 They called me. They called you and told you that they were going to put her to 91 00:05:35,630 --> 00:05:40,630 sleep? They said that either they were going to put her down or I had to take 92 00:05:40,630 --> 00:05:45,170 her back. And I couldn't do it because I was so stressed out about it. 93 00:05:45,690 --> 00:05:49,750 So now I'm at that point with Callie, but I don't want to give her up. 94 00:05:50,310 --> 00:05:51,310 Wow. 95 00:05:51,550 --> 00:05:52,930 And that's why I reached out to you. 96 00:05:55,650 --> 00:06:01,510 Moosh was very friendly to everyone, but then she would just kind of nap. 97 00:06:02,110 --> 00:06:06,670 And I just saw a flashback of Moosh with Allie. 98 00:06:09,250 --> 00:06:10,250 Wow. 99 00:06:10,690 --> 00:06:15,850 I called my vet behavioralist that I worked with before, and she was like, oh 100 00:06:15,850 --> 00:06:20,450 gosh, another one. One of the reasons that Tara's getting so hyper -emotional 101 00:06:20,450 --> 00:06:25,990 because she's already had to euthanize Moosh because of aggression problems, 102 00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:28,010 she's afraid that it's going to play out all over again. 103 00:06:28,410 --> 00:06:33,210 Just so you know, it would never be my MO. We're going to make it work, one way 104 00:06:33,210 --> 00:06:33,769 or another. 105 00:06:33,770 --> 00:06:36,670 And as long as you're committed to her, I'm committed to you. 106 00:06:36,890 --> 00:06:37,649 I am. 107 00:06:37,650 --> 00:06:41,530 Well, I've heard a pretty harrowing story about who Callie is, but I haven't 108 00:06:41,530 --> 00:06:42,169 her myself. 109 00:06:42,170 --> 00:06:44,770 Apparently, she's in the laundry room, so that's where I'm headed. 110 00:06:45,010 --> 00:06:46,630 Where do we have a cat? 111 00:06:48,270 --> 00:06:50,930 Do I hear you, Callie? 112 00:06:52,310 --> 00:06:53,490 Oh, I do hear you. 113 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:59,520 Oh, I see you, baby. 114 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:02,520 Hi, 115 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:04,320 Kelly. 116 00:07:07,020 --> 00:07:11,640 I am seeing some unusual behavior from Kelly. 117 00:07:11,860 --> 00:07:12,860 Come on, Kelly. 118 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,700 Normally, if she were to trap herself under that shelf, she would be frozen 119 00:07:17,700 --> 00:07:18,700 fear. She's not. 120 00:07:19,100 --> 00:07:22,780 She's giving me signals saying, hey, buddy, get away from me. She's present. 121 00:07:23,060 --> 00:07:26,720 I don't necessarily like the fact that you're hidden like that. 122 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,840 If I just put my hand here, there's our challenge line. 123 00:07:31,140 --> 00:07:32,380 Right there. 124 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:33,680 Come on, sweetheart. 125 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:34,879 Can you say hi? 126 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:35,699 Come on. 127 00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:39,440 Even though I'm getting attacked, Callie's giving me warnings. Her lashing 128 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,980 graduates first from a tap to a punch, then the claws come out and it's a 129 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:48,080 strike. There's a logic to it. So this tells me that it's most likely not a 130 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,080 chemical issue. 131 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,980 Everything I pictured going wrong is now going wrong. 132 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:57,759 It's okay. 133 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,660 And I can't do anything to help it. It's okay. 134 00:08:02,260 --> 00:08:05,520 I just don't want him to pack up his stuff and leave. 135 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,320 Okay. 136 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,680 You're not kidding around, man. 137 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:28,060 I'm working with Guardian Tara's cat, Callie, testing her challenge line and 138 00:08:28,060 --> 00:08:31,660 getting my knuckles bloodied in the process. My goal was to test Callie's 139 00:08:31,660 --> 00:08:36,159 levels to see if her responses were appropriate and if there was a point 140 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:37,880 her aggression subsided. 141 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:42,520 They didn't. You got every knuckle, too. 142 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:44,920 But I got some good information. 143 00:08:45,220 --> 00:08:47,900 All right, honey, you stay right there as if you're going to go anywhere. 144 00:08:49,500 --> 00:08:50,500 Well. 145 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Sorry. 146 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,500 Yeah. Yeah. It was not an altogether pleasant get -together. Oh, my gosh. 147 00:08:58,100 --> 00:08:59,820 It's okay. Let's sit down. Let's talk. 148 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,540 There's actually a couple of problems here. Number one is Callie's 149 00:09:04,540 --> 00:09:10,460 problem. She's almost, in certain ways, feral. So here's my goal, is being able 150 00:09:10,460 --> 00:09:15,880 to have people come over with her being present and not being completely freaked 151 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,200 out. I want you to start getting into ritual. 152 00:09:18,580 --> 00:09:20,530 Mealtime. Right? It's a big event. 153 00:09:20,770 --> 00:09:24,330 You get to feed her meals. She's hungry. She eats. It's over. You pick up the 154 00:09:24,330 --> 00:09:28,910 dish. Before you do that, have a play session with her. Playing with Callie 155 00:09:28,910 --> 00:09:32,430 help drain all of that energy out of her system. That'll make it a lot less 156 00:09:32,430 --> 00:09:34,270 likely that she will attack Tara's friends. 157 00:09:34,590 --> 00:09:35,590 What's going on with you? 158 00:09:35,990 --> 00:09:38,370 No, I'm just, I'm seeing it. This is an emotional day. 159 00:09:38,870 --> 00:09:41,330 Because of the failure or because of the possibility? 160 00:09:43,430 --> 00:09:45,350 Everything. Just a long day. 161 00:09:46,190 --> 00:09:47,230 For me and for her. 162 00:09:47,740 --> 00:09:51,580 My assessment of Tara is that she's actually a really compassionate, 163 00:09:51,580 --> 00:09:57,020 person. Because of that, her tragic experience with Moosh is traumatic to 164 00:09:57,020 --> 00:10:00,500 an extent she hasn't even dealt with yet. It's my guess that she kept Callie 165 00:10:00,500 --> 00:10:04,500 sheltered away from other people, not only because she was new in town, but 166 00:10:04,500 --> 00:10:08,900 because she was so desperately afraid to see Callie fail with strangers the same 167 00:10:08,900 --> 00:10:10,240 way that Moosh did towards the end. 168 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,300 Unfortunately, by overprotecting Callie, she didn't do her cat any favors, just 169 00:10:14,300 --> 00:10:15,229 the opposite. 170 00:10:15,230 --> 00:10:19,970 Your energy helps dictate how she is. If the two of you start this sort of death 171 00:10:19,970 --> 00:10:24,090 dance of anxiety, you know where it's going to end. It's going to end badly. 172 00:10:24,090 --> 00:10:27,210 I get back here next time and Tara hasn't learned how to regulate her own 173 00:10:27,210 --> 00:10:30,750 emotional state and be her cat's social bridge, I don't even know where we'd go 174 00:10:30,750 --> 00:10:34,550 from here. This is a real make or break moment for both Tara and Callie. 175 00:10:43,470 --> 00:10:46,570 Hi, my name is Kurt, and I have one cat, and it's Curtis Jr. 176 00:10:46,990 --> 00:10:49,550 He's adorable and everything, but he's a holy terror. 177 00:10:49,910 --> 00:10:50,909 Curtis Jr. 178 00:10:50,910 --> 00:10:51,910 destroys everything. 179 00:10:52,850 --> 00:10:57,670 Magazines, toilet paper, paper towel, cell phone, headphone cords. I can't 180 00:10:57,670 --> 00:10:59,770 any food out because he comes in price to eat it. 181 00:11:00,290 --> 00:11:02,290 Curtis Jr. eating my lunch thing. 182 00:11:03,150 --> 00:11:07,070 Best way to describe me, kind of like one -third dog, one -third cat, and one 183 00:11:07,070 --> 00:11:07,909 -third rat. 184 00:11:07,910 --> 00:11:10,010 He eats everything, and even my cup. 185 00:11:10,650 --> 00:11:11,650 Crazy. 186 00:11:12,030 --> 00:11:13,030 Why do you do that? 187 00:11:13,350 --> 00:11:16,570 So I'm real social, and I would love to have people over, but I'm really 188 00:11:16,570 --> 00:11:20,190 embarrassed about this couch. It's a couch from hell, like my cat from hell, 189 00:11:20,190 --> 00:11:24,750 I'd like to get a new couch, but I think I need to declaw him to do it. I'm at 190 00:11:24,750 --> 00:11:28,850 my wit's end. I don't know what to do about him. He's out of control. I love 191 00:11:28,850 --> 00:11:33,550 Curtis Jr. so much, but I'm sick of my cat's claws ruining my life. If Jackson 192 00:11:33,550 --> 00:11:35,790 doesn't help me, I am going to get him declawed. 193 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,260 Hey. Hey, man. I'm Jackson. I'm Kurt. Nice to meet you. 194 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,360 So, I assume you've got a cat. Yes. 195 00:11:50,740 --> 00:11:51,900 It's Curtis Jr. 196 00:11:52,220 --> 00:11:55,580 All these years, I've never had someone name their cat after that. 197 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,040 Okay, so, Curtis Jr. 198 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,720 He's destroying everything. 199 00:12:02,020 --> 00:12:05,400 Toilet paper, paper towels, magazines, boxes, any type of... 200 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:10,080 paper anything he attacked he chews it up and spits it out i was raised with 201 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,680 cats and dogs and i've never had them like attack paper towels and toilet 202 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:18,540 and stuff like that i've never you are lucky like if i have food on the counter 203 00:12:18,540 --> 00:12:24,640 he'll run up and start eating the food what i'm hearing is the most ordinary 204 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:29,560 stuff this guy tells me he grew up with cats I want to know what kind of cats he 205 00:12:29,560 --> 00:12:31,600 grew up with. He destroyed my couch. 206 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,140 Yeah. Even though I have a scratching post for him. I'm not sure that we have 207 00:12:35,140 --> 00:12:38,600 cat from hell, but I'm pretty sure we have a couch from hell. That thing's got 208 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,180 to be gone, and I mean like yesterday. 209 00:12:40,500 --> 00:12:44,160 I want to get a new couch, but I don't feel like I can get one. I don't want to 210 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,160 declaw him. 211 00:12:46,340 --> 00:12:49,420 Oh, that takes us in a totally different direction. 212 00:12:49,740 --> 00:12:53,260 Because if you're going there, that means you're already sort of at the end 213 00:12:53,260 --> 00:12:54,260 your rope. Yeah. 214 00:12:54,750 --> 00:12:57,050 You're my last straw. That's why I have you here. 215 00:12:57,270 --> 00:13:00,870 So if I didn't show up today... I'd probably get him to quad, yeah. 216 00:13:01,310 --> 00:13:04,070 No, no, I never want to hear you talking about decline. 217 00:13:04,370 --> 00:13:09,150 Ever. It's a pretty barbaric thing, and something that, as far as I'm concerned, 218 00:13:09,330 --> 00:13:10,149 should be illegal. 219 00:13:10,150 --> 00:13:11,430 The couch ain't worth it. 220 00:13:11,670 --> 00:13:13,010 No, you got a cat who scratches. 221 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:17,100 They all do. And they have to. It's an absolute necessity. 222 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:22,120 They have to exercise this part of their chest. They have to rid themselves of 223 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,400 the dead pieces of nail. 224 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,520 It's the thing that makes them feel secure about themselves. Ah, that's me. 225 00:13:26,780 --> 00:13:31,260 So I would have you start looking at what you can do for him. Ask not what 226 00:13:31,260 --> 00:13:35,540 cat can do for you. Ask what you can do for your cat. When you got him, did he 227 00:13:35,540 --> 00:13:38,440 have evidence of neglect? 228 00:13:38,780 --> 00:13:41,880 Yeah, he was kind of malnutritioned. He was real thin. I think he's only 229 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:42,880 comfortable around me. 230 00:13:43,230 --> 00:13:45,350 Anytime somebody comes over, he gets very scared. 231 00:13:45,570 --> 00:13:47,990 He ran under the bed as soon as he knocked on the door now. 232 00:13:48,350 --> 00:13:53,350 The one problem that Kurt's telling me about that I can get behind is Curtis 233 00:13:53,350 --> 00:13:54,710 Jr.'s social anxiety. 234 00:13:55,070 --> 00:13:57,850 So I'd have to coax him out or lift the bed to get him out. 235 00:13:58,110 --> 00:13:59,630 There's a bunch of crap under the bed. 236 00:13:59,910 --> 00:14:00,910 Oh. 237 00:14:02,230 --> 00:14:08,350 First of all, let's point out exactly what makes you crazy. Okay. So look at 238 00:14:08,350 --> 00:14:09,350 this. Exhibit A. 239 00:14:09,550 --> 00:14:10,409 Look at this. 240 00:14:10,410 --> 00:14:11,930 What the hell am I supposed to do with that? 241 00:14:12,579 --> 00:14:13,800 That's really annoying. 242 00:14:14,660 --> 00:14:16,220 Look, he's ruined the paper towel. 243 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:20,000 And then, like, I have food. Like, one time I had blueberries, and he gets up 244 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,740 here and he knocked all the blueberries all over. 245 00:14:22,180 --> 00:14:26,800 And then I had lunch meat up here, and I went to the bathroom, and he had eaten 246 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:27,800 all the lunch meat. 247 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,840 And then he proceeded to puke it all up on the floor. It was like, ugh, hot, 248 00:14:31,940 --> 00:14:32,940 gross. 249 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:38,200 You have had cats, right? Yeah, I was raised with cats. I can't believe that. 250 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:43,780 can't bend an animal's characteristics around our need to have blueberries 251 00:14:43,780 --> 00:14:47,580 sitting on a counter. You see this look that I'm giving you right now? That's 252 00:14:47,580 --> 00:14:48,600 sort of incredulous. 253 00:14:48,820 --> 00:14:53,020 I mean, I can give you tools and stuff like that. 254 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,860 I don't know that that's enough. 255 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,280 Are you trying to tell me that I'm not a cat person and I shouldn't have a cat? 256 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:59,360 Is that what you're saying? 257 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,020 Yeah. Really? 258 00:15:01,610 --> 00:15:05,850 I was born and raised with cats and dogs. Curtis, if you are to the point 259 00:15:05,850 --> 00:15:10,390 you're going to declaw your cat because you've got a side of your couch, 260 00:15:10,530 --> 00:15:15,530 blueberries, paper towel, and some lunch meat, then I'm having a hard time. 261 00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:17,890 And I kind of take offense to that because I love animals. 262 00:15:18,110 --> 00:15:21,870 You can bet that I am not going to leave here today without telling Curtis Sr. 263 00:15:21,890 --> 00:15:24,150 exactly what it means to declaw a cat. 264 00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:28,590 I guess because my parents always got the cats declawed, so I'm not used to 265 00:15:28,590 --> 00:15:30,070 this. It's making sense. 266 00:15:30,460 --> 00:15:34,460 I mean, he had declawed cats, and that's why he always had intact paper towels. 267 00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:39,040 There is no good enough reason to declaw a cat, but the least of them are paper 268 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:44,200 towels. Grab that scratching board for me. Now, let's look at the differences 269 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,200 here. 270 00:15:45,700 --> 00:15:46,619 You're laughing. 271 00:15:46,620 --> 00:15:49,080 Well, I guess it's pretty small and rinky -dinky. Dainty is the word. 272 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,800 When I do get, if I get a bigger one and I put it by the couch, is that a good 273 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,480 idea or no? It should always be separate. Let me have you talk me 274 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Pros and cons. 275 00:15:59,230 --> 00:16:00,490 Why would you put it right here? 276 00:16:02,990 --> 00:16:09,850 Because, I don't know. We have to go to the reason he's doing this, okay? Number 277 00:16:09,850 --> 00:16:16,350 one, it's sturdy, right? So when he goes to grab, he's got that resistance, 278 00:16:16,510 --> 00:16:18,170 right? This little job. 279 00:16:18,650 --> 00:16:22,810 He goes to grab. Right. And you find it like this. Yeah. He has actually knocked 280 00:16:22,810 --> 00:16:27,190 it over. Yeah, I'm sure. Right. Because this is the road that good intentions 281 00:16:27,190 --> 00:16:29,950 are paved with. And I'm giving you props for the good intentions. 282 00:16:30,950 --> 00:16:34,710 But the thing is that, yeah, he's got to be able to do his thing. Right. And 283 00:16:34,710 --> 00:16:36,310 it's funny, actually, when you look at this. 284 00:16:36,830 --> 00:16:40,130 I don't even see. Oh, there we go. Yeah. We have one scratch. Right. We have a 285 00:16:40,130 --> 00:16:41,590 scratch. But that's one. 286 00:16:41,890 --> 00:16:44,770 So two things I would tell you to do right off the bat. 287 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:48,070 Number one, we've got to get him something that when he pulls on it. 288 00:16:48,380 --> 00:16:51,720 It gives him that resistance. Otherwise, he's going to always go back to this 289 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,140 thing. Secondly, it is about placement, right? 290 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,680 Because let me tell you why. 291 00:16:56,340 --> 00:17:01,280 In the world of cat, nothing is more important than that ownership, than that 292 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,859 cat mojo, that thing that I smell me and I'm just like, you know what I mean? 293 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:12,900 This and this, and especially in a space like this, are the prime areas 294 00:17:12,900 --> 00:17:14,339 where you... 295 00:17:14,730 --> 00:17:19,170 Spend your time. So your scent is incredibly strong in these two places, 296 00:17:19,390 --> 00:17:24,069 So he wants to sort of complement that scent and guard the most important 297 00:17:24,270 --> 00:17:28,349 this being the big thing. I didn't know that. That's why this is the only 298 00:17:28,349 --> 00:17:29,350 scratched up place. 299 00:17:30,610 --> 00:17:34,830 That's the outside world. You're coming in here, and you best know Curtis Jr. 300 00:17:35,130 --> 00:17:38,910 lives right here. It's like that little sign that you hang out, that little 301 00:17:38,910 --> 00:17:40,910 wooden plaque that said Curtis Jr., right? 302 00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:43,370 Right here. And then he's guarding this. 303 00:17:44,300 --> 00:17:49,060 The idea of having that scratching post right here so that we have a way of 304 00:17:49,060 --> 00:17:53,620 saying to him, this is the right path. This is the place for you to go. So that 305 00:17:53,620 --> 00:17:56,300 will encourage him just to do the scratching post and not the couch? 306 00:17:56,580 --> 00:17:57,760 Exactly. Exactly. 307 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,720 He's not doing this to piss you off. Okay. 308 00:18:01,020 --> 00:18:02,020 Let's start there. 309 00:18:02,500 --> 00:18:06,360 Let's start at the place that he's not trying to get under your skin. He's 310 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:11,600 trying to get his job done. Okay. And the job is remove the dead sheaves of 311 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:12,660 without removing the nails. 312 00:18:13,370 --> 00:18:16,890 The job is to exercise, and the job is to leave that mark, right? 313 00:18:17,250 --> 00:18:19,350 And he's doing a damn good job of it. 314 00:18:19,950 --> 00:18:24,370 And with this here, and the other advantage that you have here is you take 315 00:18:25,210 --> 00:18:29,570 Okay. All right. Now, if it was as tall, and you could put it right under the 316 00:18:29,570 --> 00:18:33,010 couch like this, he yanks. It's not going anywhere. Okay. 317 00:18:33,470 --> 00:18:34,470 Guarantee. 318 00:18:34,810 --> 00:18:37,490 And he won't touch the couch. He'll just do the scratching post. 319 00:18:37,690 --> 00:18:41,850 I can't guarantee that. I would love to spend some time with Kay Jr. 320 00:18:42,090 --> 00:18:43,650 here. You said he's under the bed? Yeah. 321 00:18:44,010 --> 00:18:45,030 Let's see where he's at. 322 00:18:45,990 --> 00:18:48,410 Curtis, holy cow. I know, right? 323 00:18:48,670 --> 00:18:50,830 I am so scared to look under this bed. 324 00:18:51,030 --> 00:18:55,690 Here we go. I am pulling out bins and all kinds of nasty. 325 00:18:55,910 --> 00:18:56,869 Kay Jr. 326 00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:59,490 And none of those things contain a cat. 327 00:19:00,410 --> 00:19:02,710 Don't judge me with what you see under the bed, all right? 328 00:19:04,030 --> 00:19:07,150 Curtis Sr. needs to block the unders so that Curtis Jr. 329 00:19:07,530 --> 00:19:09,950 can't hide under this gnarly bed. 330 00:19:10,170 --> 00:19:12,650 I don't see him. There's one other hiding spot. Let me check. 331 00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:15,570 Here he is. 332 00:19:15,890 --> 00:19:16,990 Oh, for God's sake. 333 00:19:17,230 --> 00:19:22,310 I just inhaled a year off my life, and he's not under the bed. 334 00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:24,190 Hi. 335 00:19:25,230 --> 00:19:26,890 Well, there's Curtis Jr. 336 00:19:28,490 --> 00:19:29,850 Hello, my little man. 337 00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:33,360 Curtis Jr. is sweet, he's cute, and he's not completely terrified. 338 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,900 It makes me think that his social anxiety is something we can work with 339 00:19:36,900 --> 00:19:40,580 there's something about him that's saying, I'm scared, I'm not petrified. 340 00:19:41,060 --> 00:19:43,420 I am adoring your cat right now. 341 00:19:43,660 --> 00:19:48,180 Jackson kind of reassured me that my cat isn't as emotionally unstable as I 342 00:19:48,180 --> 00:19:50,120 thought he was, so I'm really glad to hear that. 343 00:19:50,460 --> 00:19:51,500 Back in the kitchen. 344 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,240 I think I insulted you. 345 00:19:53,540 --> 00:19:57,300 I know you've got a good heart when it comes to your cat. I know you do. I can 346 00:19:57,300 --> 00:20:01,380 tell. All of today's strangeness here aside, we have got to find a way to give 347 00:20:01,380 --> 00:20:06,460 Curtis Jr. a bigger, less fearful life, and we've got to find a way to get 348 00:20:06,460 --> 00:20:07,439 Curtis Sr. 349 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,780 on board with being a more giving guardian who's not afraid to compromise 350 00:20:11,780 --> 00:20:12,499 his cat. 351 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:13,800 So, homework. 352 00:20:14,060 --> 00:20:19,700 Okay. For Kurt and Kurt Jr., the first thing, environmental enrichment. 353 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,220 This is a small place. 354 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,880 Right. You've got to put yourself in his paws for a second. If I were him, what 355 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:25,689 would I want? 356 00:20:25,690 --> 00:20:29,670 Curtis' senior studio apartment is big enough for Curtis, his cat, and not much 357 00:20:29,670 --> 00:20:34,010 else. Now, cats can be perfectly happy in small spaces, but it's not about the 358 00:20:34,010 --> 00:20:37,610 space. It's what you do with it. You better catify that space if you want 359 00:20:37,610 --> 00:20:38,569 cat to thrive. 360 00:20:38,570 --> 00:20:40,950 First thing, no living being should be under this. 361 00:20:41,210 --> 00:20:42,390 Okay. Nobody. 362 00:20:43,770 --> 00:20:47,870 So I'd like you to block off the under. Okay. I also want you to get a 363 00:20:47,870 --> 00:20:50,750 scratching post. He needs something that is bigger. 364 00:20:50,990 --> 00:20:53,570 You want him to be able to reach all the way up. 365 00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:55,370 Okay. Grab and pull down. 366 00:20:55,610 --> 00:20:56,970 Also, think up here. 367 00:20:57,230 --> 00:21:02,370 Okay? It could be as simple as a $5 shelf that you put up. Now, he can jump 368 00:21:02,370 --> 00:21:06,810 here to here. From here into that window sill. I want him to be able to look out 369 00:21:06,810 --> 00:21:07,469 the window. 370 00:21:07,470 --> 00:21:09,010 I want to get into routine. 371 00:21:09,370 --> 00:21:15,270 If you get up in the morning and you invest literally 10 minutes in playing 372 00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:16,550 him, you won't be doing that stuff. 373 00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:21,790 Cats just need routine in a big, bad way. Now, here's an expectation I have 374 00:21:21,790 --> 00:21:22,790 you. 375 00:21:23,290 --> 00:21:24,510 I want you to get a new couch. 376 00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:30,430 I want you to trust your cat. Get the new scratcher and you just take double 377 00:21:30,430 --> 00:21:33,650 -sided sticky tape just for the first week or so on your new couch. You're 378 00:21:33,650 --> 00:21:35,390 to touch it. You're going to go, oh, that's gross. 379 00:21:36,030 --> 00:21:39,170 Oh, I have a scratching pose. Okay. He will go for it. I'm going to do 380 00:21:39,170 --> 00:21:43,170 everything that Jackson suggested, but I am still freaking out about if I get a 381 00:21:43,170 --> 00:21:46,790 new pouch or not, and he'll scratch it. But I'm going to try it out, so 382 00:21:46,790 --> 00:21:50,290 hopefully it'll be good. You've been talking about declawing your cat if he 383 00:21:50,290 --> 00:21:57,130 doesn't shape up, and it alarms me. When you declaw a cat, see how we have claw? 384 00:21:57,430 --> 00:22:01,510 Mm -hmm. And then we have this first digit here, right there? Okay, right 385 00:22:01,970 --> 00:22:04,150 Yeah. The whole bone. What? 386 00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:05,390 At the first digit. 387 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,560 Cut. It is an amputation of every digit on his little paws. 388 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,100 I didn't know that. That's crazy. 389 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,320 I'm going to tell you. 390 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,160 It's a barbaric surgery. 391 00:22:15,540 --> 00:22:20,440 I had no idea. I feel like I'm a terrible pet owner, even considering 392 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,440 cat declawed. 393 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,340 I'm going to take my leave of the two of you. I'll be back in a few weeks. 394 00:22:25,540 --> 00:22:26,540 All right. Say bye. 395 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,360 Bye. Big Kurt, he's just got to realize that the life he's giving for his cat is 396 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:35,980 not enough to have expectations that he won't tear up toilet paper, paper towel, 397 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,240 knock blueberries off the counter, and eat his lunch meat. And if I come back 398 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,240 next time and he hasn't done anything, I expect we're going to have an entirely 399 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,320 different conversation, one that involves him not having cats. 400 00:23:04,669 --> 00:23:08,530 So I'm here for my second visit with Tara and her cat, Callie. Now, the last 401 00:23:08,530 --> 00:23:11,610 time I was here, Tara was in tears. Callie made me bleed. 402 00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:13,230 Okay. 403 00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:17,710 Tara is caught in a self -perpetuating cycle where her guilt over having to 404 00:23:17,710 --> 00:23:21,210 euthanize the previous cat, Moose, is causing her to be overprotective of 405 00:23:21,210 --> 00:23:23,550 Callie, who's completely antisocial. 406 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,820 I have got to help Tara break out of her PTSD so she can help Callie break out 407 00:23:28,820 --> 00:23:30,120 of her small, scared world. 408 00:23:30,940 --> 00:23:33,120 Hey. Hello. How are you? Welcome back. 409 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,440 Oh, hi, Callie. Sitting on the counter. 410 00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:40,280 Yes. I'll take that as not the worst sign in the world. 411 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,280 So I'm trying to stay positive, but not too positive. 412 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,260 Yeah. I honestly didn't think Jackson was going to come back. 413 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,960 I thought Callie was a lost cause. 414 00:23:51,530 --> 00:23:53,990 Let's get right to it. I want to start looking at your homework. 415 00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:59,010 So Erin just got here, and we're going to have her feed Callie. That's Erin. 416 00:23:59,690 --> 00:24:01,630 She's avoiding eye contact with her. 417 00:24:03,450 --> 00:24:07,950 Erin's walking like Walking Dead, right? She's like doing the zombie walk. 418 00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:11,950 She's kind of fun, but she's still growling, so it's kind of scaring me. 419 00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:14,090 And that's Erin playing with her. 420 00:24:15,150 --> 00:24:16,890 No, no, don't growl. I'm sorry. 421 00:24:17,930 --> 00:24:19,030 No. Oh, God. 422 00:24:19,420 --> 00:24:21,280 Erin is quite a fraidy cat. Yeah. 423 00:24:22,460 --> 00:24:23,520 That's my friend Becky. 424 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,000 Becky? Yes. 425 00:24:25,380 --> 00:24:29,100 Becky's in the bathroom right now. I'm going to remove Callie from the 426 00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:30,100 situation. 427 00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:34,400 Why? I know Becky was freaking out. Oh, that's the key here. Bad energy 428 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,940 everywhere. Great. 429 00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:38,200 Good girl. Yeah, good girl. 430 00:24:38,620 --> 00:24:44,120 Just to give you a little bit of cat body language 101, tail, right? 431 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,280 Her tail's straight up in the air. It's got that confident little flagger to it. 432 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:54,340 So even though she's clearly not thrilled, she's also not in full feral 433 00:24:54,940 --> 00:24:58,200 That's Erin. What is she doing? She wants to close the blinds and she's 434 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,179 to walk past. 435 00:24:59,180 --> 00:25:00,460 Callie's under the table now. 436 00:25:00,740 --> 00:25:01,740 Please don't scratch me. 437 00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:04,860 Oh. Wow. She like totally scratched her. Oh. 438 00:25:05,340 --> 00:25:11,140 I got to be honest, I would expect that. Yeah. Because Erin is way too afraid. I 439 00:25:11,140 --> 00:25:13,000 know. Nobody trusts Callie. 440 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,280 No! Everyone is expecting catastrophic results. 441 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,980 So you're almost predicting that those results are going to happen. Now we've 442 00:25:19,980 --> 00:25:23,900 got to think about what's next. The fact that she's out gives me some ideas 443 00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:25,280 about what I want to do with her. 444 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:31,020 It's vital that I show Tara what it's like to just walk into a situation and 445 00:25:31,020 --> 00:25:32,020 care about the outcome. 446 00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:37,020 Because I have to show Tara that Callie is capable of changing so that Tara 447 00:25:37,020 --> 00:25:38,240 doesn't give up on her altogether. 448 00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:39,620 What is that? 449 00:25:39,660 --> 00:25:43,440 I'm just expecting a scratch and a negative reaction. 450 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,760 Jackson is my last hope. 451 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,980 I have no other options after this. 452 00:25:51,540 --> 00:25:53,280 She's rubbing up against me. 453 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,900 Good girl, Cal. 454 00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:57,360 Breathe, Tara. 455 00:25:58,460 --> 00:25:59,620 That was cool. 456 00:25:59,980 --> 00:26:01,120 She brushed on you? 457 00:26:01,420 --> 00:26:02,460 Yeah, I got the rub. 458 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:08,880 Good girl. Good girl, Callie. Now I've got Callie coming up and rubbing against 459 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,160 me. That's saying you're my friend. 460 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,760 Compadres. 461 00:26:13,150 --> 00:26:17,110 Good girl. Good girl, Callie. The reason why Callie doesn't lash out at me right 462 00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:18,550 now is because I'm calm. 463 00:26:18,790 --> 00:26:22,590 If I'm calm, she's calm. If I trust her, she trusts me. I need to show Tara that 464 00:26:22,590 --> 00:26:25,850 strangers coming into the house can have success with Callie as long as they 465 00:26:25,850 --> 00:26:26,850 demonstrate trust. 466 00:26:27,070 --> 00:26:28,070 You know, 467 00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:32,570 the bottom line is I've gotten about as far with Callie as I can get today, and 468 00:26:32,570 --> 00:26:33,890 I'm kind of happy about it. 469 00:26:34,130 --> 00:26:37,050 But I'm not happy with what I'm getting from Tara, and I've got to sit and talk 470 00:26:37,050 --> 00:26:37,949 with her for a minute. 471 00:26:37,950 --> 00:26:42,430 What happened to Moosh was a fate that many cats have gone through over the 472 00:26:42,430 --> 00:26:46,970 years, too many to even count. I want you to walk me through Moosh. 473 00:26:47,170 --> 00:26:52,870 As she started getting older, she would just get this look over her face, and 474 00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:56,350 that was her, I've locked it, I'm gone, and I'm attacking. 475 00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:58,050 Oh, that sucks. 476 00:26:58,510 --> 00:27:03,090 So then you called the behaviorist. She gave me medication to give to the cat, 477 00:27:03,210 --> 00:27:05,210 and then Moosh started. 478 00:27:06,699 --> 00:27:09,340 resenting me and hating me and attacking me more. 479 00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:15,280 And we didn't have like an affection relationship anymore because every time 480 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,180 would get her in that calm state, I would shove a pill down her throat. 481 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,720 And I felt terrible. 482 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,640 So I didn't know what to do. 483 00:27:23,260 --> 00:27:27,400 And my behavioralist said, you know, the only thing you can do is give her up 484 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,219 for adoption. 485 00:27:28,220 --> 00:27:31,940 And then within 24 hours, they called me and said that they weren't going to 486 00:27:31,940 --> 00:27:34,260 adopt her out and they were going to put her down or I could take her back. 487 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,480 And I said, well, 488 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:38,300 If I take her back, it's going to be the same exact thing. 489 00:27:38,620 --> 00:27:45,280 But I went in and said goodbye to her and I held her. 490 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,960 I want to be clear. 491 00:27:47,260 --> 00:27:50,320 Killing cats for behavioral reasons is completely unacceptable. 492 00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:55,880 What I witnessed... in shelters years ago was so heartbreaking that it sent me 493 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,960 on this journey where my ultimate goal is to entirely end the killing of cats 494 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,800 shelters. One of the main reasons that I've dedicated myself to cats with 495 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,880 behavioral issues is so that they will never, ever wind up in a situation like 496 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:10,519 Moosh did. 497 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,520 You were there. 498 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,440 Yeah, I was there like an hour before. 499 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,800 When I took her out of the crate before they put her down, she was so 500 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,400 affectionate. Which of course makes it. 501 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,000 That much harder because in that moment, she's all affectionate to you. 502 00:28:25,580 --> 00:28:31,480 We all empathize with the cats who have to be euthanized. Oftentimes, we don't 503 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,740 extend that empathy to the humans who had to deal with that as well. I'm 504 00:28:35,740 --> 00:28:41,120 of not giving Tara a fair shake the first time I met her, and I feel 505 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,120 about that. 506 00:28:42,380 --> 00:28:45,200 The hard part is I don't think you ever forgave yourself. 507 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,720 I didn't. I feel terrible. 508 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,100 I need you to forgive yourself. 509 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,760 I forgive you. It's more important for you to forgive yourself and let yourself 510 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,659 off the hook. 511 00:28:55,660 --> 00:28:59,740 You can't bring judgment on someone like Tara for what she had to go through and 512 00:28:59,740 --> 00:29:04,260 what the results were. She tried. And that's more than I can say for thousands 513 00:29:04,260 --> 00:29:09,060 of people that dumped their cats at the shelter where I had to kill them. 514 00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:12,820 Do you think that it's going to wind up with the same outcome as Moosh? 515 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,440 Not after today. 516 00:29:14,860 --> 00:29:16,580 There you go. 517 00:29:17,020 --> 00:29:20,780 But in order for you to be present with this cat, I need you to get through your 518 00:29:20,780 --> 00:29:26,100 process. The reason I'm asking Tara to forgive herself is because I know what 519 00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:31,100 it's like not to forgive yourself, and I know the liberation that comes from 520 00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:37,040 forgiveness. So I saw last time I was here that when Callie goes in that 521 00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:40,700 that's her caving. When we say no to the caves, we've got to say yes to 522 00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:41,459 something else. 523 00:29:41,460 --> 00:29:44,160 Yes to me is things that I call cocoons. 524 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,460 She's still part of the world. 525 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,340 But she can hide, and she can be at a distance if she wants to. If she could 526 00:29:50,340 --> 00:29:54,320 find a place to cocoon herself that was in a social space like the couch with 527 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,940 company over, I mean, that would be a major victory. 528 00:29:57,220 --> 00:30:02,540 The job is for Aaron and then for Becky to continue to do things like feed. 529 00:30:02,860 --> 00:30:04,740 You're great. It's okay. And play. 530 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,600 Oh, God. 531 00:30:06,820 --> 00:30:09,800 But learn how to do these things without the zombie walk. 532 00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:11,100 Oh. 533 00:30:11,740 --> 00:30:13,640 Now, the hard part. I want a stranger. 534 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,600 I want somebody who Callie's never met before, and I want you to take them 535 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,360 through the steps. The steps are, first, acclimating Callie to strangers in the 536 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,060 house, and then second, getting her to interact with them through feeding and 537 00:30:25,060 --> 00:30:28,540 play. She's got to make sure that anybody else that comes in reacts 538 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:29,760 expects the best. 539 00:30:30,260 --> 00:30:33,020 Relationships are something that everybody should have, and now Callie's 540 00:30:33,020 --> 00:30:36,220 to have them as well. If Tara doesn't embrace this homework, I'm afraid that 541 00:30:36,220 --> 00:30:39,220 PTSD is going to continue to perpetuate this cycle. 542 00:30:39,610 --> 00:30:43,770 Worst case scenario is that Callie and Tara will be cut off from the rest of 543 00:30:43,770 --> 00:30:44,449 world forever. 544 00:30:44,450 --> 00:30:46,170 And I am not ready to let that happen. 545 00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:52,170 You're crazy, Curtis Jr. You're crazy. 546 00:30:58,190 --> 00:31:01,270 So last time I was a little hard on Curtis Sr. Whoa! 547 00:31:01,490 --> 00:31:02,490 Hey, man! How you doing? 548 00:31:02,690 --> 00:31:06,110 But that's just because I want a better life for Curtis Jr. I want to make sure 549 00:31:06,110 --> 00:31:09,610 that he's got places to scratch, he's got paws to scratch with, and he's not 550 00:31:09,610 --> 00:31:10,610 hiding under the bed. 551 00:31:10,690 --> 00:31:13,910 Whoa! Welcome to my cat palace. Bang! 552 00:31:14,190 --> 00:31:19,230 There we go. I'm so proud of you. Thank you. That is amazing, man. 553 00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:21,610 It's a totally different... 554 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,320 feeling here we're talking new couch we're talking shelves now when i look 555 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,400 around this apartment i know a cat lives here and it's not just because the 556 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,360 couch is shredded up but because there's places to be you kept that couch for 557 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,220 way too long yeah yeah that couch was from the 70s yes it was has he been 558 00:31:38,220 --> 00:31:42,360 scratching on it he tried a little bit right here right and then i put the tape 559 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,360 on here and that's deterring him he'll never go back to it he doesn't know the 560 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,900 difference between tape and no tape By the way, he's got a nice little thing to 561 00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:51,940 scratch on over there, right? And he loves this. Does he? He loves hanging 562 00:31:51,940 --> 00:31:55,200 in here. He plays with this. Yeah, he loves it. He scratched inside here. 563 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,400 So he's been sitting in there. 564 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,280 Yeah, he loves it. He loves it in here. 565 00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:00,380 I want to go through your homework with you. 566 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,440 It's pretty sturdy. I feel confident putting my kitty on here. 567 00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:08,300 Curtis! 568 00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:10,300 Curtis, where are you? 569 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,240 Oh, no. 570 00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:13,700 Curtis! 571 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,060 He's pretty sturdy. I feel confident putting my kitty on here. 572 00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:33,460 Oh, no. 573 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,160 Here you go. 574 00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:42,100 What's all going in there? 575 00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:46,660 So here's the problem, man. First impressions mean a lot, right? So him 576 00:32:46,660 --> 00:32:51,060 up on here and immediately giving a whoop, you can pretty much guarantee 577 00:32:51,060 --> 00:32:52,680 that point... That's toast. 578 00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:55,740 This cat shelf in the front window, I think it's great. 579 00:32:56,140 --> 00:33:00,440 On the other hand, putting your cat in the window, turning his head to look 580 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,660 outside, and putting him up there when it's not secure, all of those are big 581 00:33:04,660 --> 00:33:07,760 no's. He is not going back to that space ever again. 582 00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:09,100 All right, moving on. 583 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,360 You like that, Virginia? 584 00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:12,940 Is that your new cat tower so you can see out the window? 585 00:33:13,580 --> 00:33:14,640 Great stuff. You like that? 586 00:33:15,060 --> 00:33:16,240 All right, on to the bed. 587 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,480 Good. So he's not allowed to get under the bed. Yeah, he can't get under there. 588 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,460 All he's got to do is think like his cat. Cat looks up in the air, put a 589 00:33:25,460 --> 00:33:28,500 right there. He wants to get there, put a shelf over there. 590 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,320 Watch your cat. That's all it takes. I don't think I've ever said this phrase 591 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,600 before. I want to see your paper towels. 592 00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:38,840 So I had the paper towels here. I'm tearing them up. I have them up here 593 00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:41,180 Brilliant! 594 00:33:41,420 --> 00:33:42,420 Woo! 595 00:33:42,540 --> 00:33:44,940 Oh, my God, my head's going to explode. So simple. 596 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,780 Curtis Sr. now knows what to expect of a cat. You leave food on the counter, 597 00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:53,480 cat's going to eat it. You put paper towel above where they can get it, 598 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,380 going to scratch it. Now he's moving his food, he's moving his paper towel. 599 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,440 Big round of applause for Curtis Sr. 600 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,220 All that with the paper towel and everything, it was like, man. That was 601 00:34:02,220 --> 00:34:03,360 ridiculous on my part. 602 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,640 What was that? That was ridiculous on my part. Yes, it was. Good. 603 00:34:07,860 --> 00:34:08,920 Now that we have an understanding. 604 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,880 Right now, Curtis Jr. 605 00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:14,739 is hiding in the closet. I'd like to push his challenge line just a little 606 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,580 So if you don't mind grabbing him. Last time, Curtis Jr. 607 00:34:17,780 --> 00:34:21,219 didn't like being around people. I'm hoping we laid the foundation, and I'm 608 00:34:21,219 --> 00:34:24,400 hoping to show him how good the world really is. 609 00:34:24,659 --> 00:34:25,659 Here's my boy. 610 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:29,179 Now, do I have a toy for you? What is that? 611 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,320 What is that? 612 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,960 You see, he's looking at the toy. He's going for the toy. 613 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,000 He's 100 % focused on the toy right now. 614 00:34:38,670 --> 00:34:40,290 And that makes me happy. 615 00:34:40,510 --> 00:34:44,370 Here's that moment I've been looking for. A cat who, instead of running, just 616 00:34:44,370 --> 00:34:45,328 says, you know what? 617 00:34:45,330 --> 00:34:48,810 Not so bad. I think I'll stick around for a minute. This is a cat who is 618 00:34:48,810 --> 00:34:51,070 changing. And that's what I'm all about. 619 00:34:51,310 --> 00:34:52,770 You've got a couch cat. Yeah. 620 00:34:53,250 --> 00:34:56,830 Before I met Jackson, I thought I was a really good animal person. But I'm kind 621 00:34:56,830 --> 00:35:00,810 of embarrassed that I was just going to get him declawed. I can just do these 622 00:35:00,810 --> 00:35:01,810 simple things. 623 00:35:01,850 --> 00:35:04,030 I, unfortunately, have to leave. 624 00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:06,410 Curtis Jr.? Curtis Sr.? 625 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,500 You know, sometimes from the inside looking out, our situation can appear 626 00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:14,960 hopeless. But from the outside looking in, solutions can be surprisingly 627 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,620 As simple as moving your paper towel up a few shelves. 628 00:35:25,260 --> 00:35:28,360 I'll tell you what, some days I love my job so much. I'm meeting up with 629 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,160 Samantha and her cat Packard. Now, Packard's been through some serious 630 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,460 his life, but now he's paying it forward by teaching other cats how to get 631 00:35:36,460 --> 00:35:37,940 through hard times in their lives. 632 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,080 Hi! Welcome! 633 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,640 Come on in! 634 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,280 Look at what we got here! 635 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,020 That's Packard! 636 00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:46,860 That's our cat from heaven! 637 00:35:47,140 --> 00:35:49,880 I'm Samantha, and I'm Packard's guardian. 638 00:35:50,140 --> 00:35:53,740 He's a special needs cat, and he really helps me with my fosters. 639 00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:56,580 I am so excited to see this boy. He's amazing. 640 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,600 When I bring a cat in, he helps them come out of their shell. He shows that 641 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,240 people are okay. That's amazing. 642 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,580 So he's, in effect, creating the same kind of social bridge that a mother cat 643 00:36:07,580 --> 00:36:08,660 would provide for her kittens. 644 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,620 Yes. Oh, my God, I love my job. So Quigley is afraid of people, was. 645 00:36:14,140 --> 00:36:18,440 afraid of people. But so when I brought Quigley home, him seeing me here is not 646 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,720 super comforting to him. You know, that's not going to help him. So I bring 647 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,560 I put him in the bathroom and his carrier, I open it up and I let Packard 648 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,860 in there. And immediately he's welcomed into this home by another cat. 649 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,820 And he was in the back of his carrier shaking. 650 00:36:33,140 --> 00:36:36,460 Packard walked in and he walked straight up to him and just started rubbing on 651 00:36:36,460 --> 00:36:40,920 him. Packard is that bridge between those cats that are fearful of people 652 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,920 because 653 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,660 They've got him in this house. 654 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,100 I feel safe. There's someone that I like that's on my side. And then he sees 655 00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:49,098 Packard with me. 656 00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:53,040 It helped me so much with my behavior foster. Sometimes I don't have to do any 657 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:58,060 work. They're social bridges. You demonstrate this behavior, and then a 658 00:36:58,060 --> 00:37:00,500 go, oh, I can do that. 659 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,860 Building social bridges for these kittens is just so important, not only 660 00:37:04,860 --> 00:37:07,100 their well -being, but to make them more adoptable cats. 661 00:37:07,630 --> 00:37:11,690 The value that Packard is adding here, acting as a surrogate mother to these 662 00:37:11,690 --> 00:37:15,210 cats, is really immeasurable. A kitten who's afraid of humans, who hasn't been 663 00:37:15,210 --> 00:37:19,110 socialized, that's a hard cat to adopt. But a kitten that's comfortable around 664 00:37:19,110 --> 00:37:23,550 people, who's been properly socialized via a cat like Packard, that's an 665 00:37:23,550 --> 00:37:24,550 adoptable cat. 666 00:37:25,330 --> 00:37:26,330 There's the grooming. 667 00:37:27,050 --> 00:37:28,350 Packard grooming them. 668 00:37:28,830 --> 00:37:32,510 Grooming them like a mom would groom their young. It's remarkable. It really 669 00:37:32,990 --> 00:37:36,390 Since Packard has been a part of our family, I've had 13 fosters. 670 00:37:36,590 --> 00:37:38,730 Because Packard is helping me. 671 00:37:39,130 --> 00:37:42,910 I'm getting them in and out and into home faster with him. 672 00:37:43,350 --> 00:37:44,730 Tell me the story of Packard. 673 00:37:45,410 --> 00:37:48,910 Packard was always quiet in the litter, not moving much. 674 00:37:49,110 --> 00:37:52,430 And all of a sudden we noticed a huge lump on the front of his head. It was a 675 00:37:52,430 --> 00:37:54,350 bacterial infection eating away the skull. 676 00:37:54,620 --> 00:37:59,400 My vet had a specialist come in, and that guy went into Packard's nasal 677 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,800 cavities, and he said it was black mush in there. 678 00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:06,080 Scraped it all out. And he lived through that. And he lived, but he became deaf, 679 00:38:06,260 --> 00:38:08,940 brain damaged, and he has the head tilt. 680 00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:10,620 Packard is a rare cat. 681 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,700 He shouldn't have made it through his first couple of days. 682 00:38:13,940 --> 00:38:18,200 And out here is a kitten raised without a mom who grooms kittens like a mom. 683 00:38:18,580 --> 00:38:20,740 It's like he was born to do something. 684 00:38:21,290 --> 00:38:25,530 I feel so proud of Packard. I just feel all choked up about my little guy. 685 00:38:25,830 --> 00:38:27,490 This is the person who saved you. 686 00:38:28,290 --> 00:38:32,270 It's been a great day. I just am in such admiration for what you do for animals. 687 00:38:32,370 --> 00:38:33,370 Thank you so much. 688 00:38:33,630 --> 00:38:34,630 Goodbye, buddy. 689 00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:35,710 Goodbye. 690 00:38:37,170 --> 00:38:38,310 Bye. Bye. 691 00:38:38,610 --> 00:38:42,990 If we had more people like Samantha and more cats like Packard showing the way, 692 00:38:43,110 --> 00:38:45,990 all cats would have great homes, and it would be amazing. 693 00:38:51,340 --> 00:38:52,340 No. Oh, God. 694 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,200 So I'm here for my final visit with Tara and her cat, Callie. Now, Callie has 695 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,800 shown me last time that she can be tolerant of strangers. 696 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,180 She brushed on you? 697 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,480 Yeah, I got the rub. 698 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:12,140 But unless Tara's done her homework and learned how to forgive herself, I'm 699 00:39:12,140 --> 00:39:15,160 afraid that she's never going to be able to give Callie a bigger life. 700 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,400 Hello. Hi, hello. 701 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,800 How are you? 702 00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:23,180 You had a lot of stuff to do last time I was here. Let's take a look at your 703 00:39:23,180 --> 00:39:24,118 video homework. 704 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,040 So we have Callie out here, and Becky is going to try to feed her. 705 00:39:29,260 --> 00:39:30,260 Hi. 706 00:39:30,780 --> 00:39:35,420 Tara's friends are allowing Callie to walk around. They're not expecting bad 707 00:39:35,420 --> 00:39:38,180 things to happen, and that's because Tara is setting that up. 708 00:39:38,420 --> 00:39:39,420 Get out of here. 709 00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:40,780 Yum, Cal. 710 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,220 Okay, wait a second. 711 00:39:46,460 --> 00:39:47,800 Yeah, I was so excited. 712 00:39:48,140 --> 00:39:49,140 Right there. 713 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,340 The rolling on her back. 714 00:39:51,580 --> 00:39:56,840 I mean, for cats to expose this part of them is the ultimate interest. 715 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,100 You know, because in the wild, I could be split right down the middle. 716 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,320 Got your belly. 717 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,020 So it's really incredible. 718 00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:05,860 That's a really wonderful moment. 719 00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:08,940 I think I'm going to give you guys a spoon. 720 00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:11,560 Oh, that's when Saint and Veronica were here. 721 00:40:11,860 --> 00:40:12,860 Wow. 722 00:40:13,069 --> 00:40:17,890 Look at that. Now, had she met these guys? She's never met them. Never met 723 00:40:17,890 --> 00:40:19,630 before. So here she is. 724 00:40:20,010 --> 00:40:23,510 They're opening cans of food, and she's just like, bring it. 725 00:40:23,890 --> 00:40:27,630 Come on. In the middle of all of us, just hanging out. 726 00:40:27,970 --> 00:40:31,650 Look at that. I know. She's so gorgeous, and she's so soft. 727 00:40:31,890 --> 00:40:36,330 Tara exclaiming, my cat is beautiful, and she's soft. You should touch her. 728 00:40:36,330 --> 00:40:38,790 that's what she has to project to all humans and to her own cat. 729 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,280 Thought I'd throw something into the mix here just to show you how good Callie 730 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,280 has been. 731 00:40:44,420 --> 00:40:47,860 She actually just texted me, and Aaron is here. 732 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,040 Really? Aaron is the person that Callie has a history of violence with. Now, 733 00:40:52,060 --> 00:40:55,560 with all the work that we've done, I'll be really convinced that Callie's come 734 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,280 around if the two of them can interact peacefully. 735 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,990 Now, here's a good thing. We've got... Callie moving around. She's up on the 736 00:41:01,990 --> 00:41:05,990 counter, which is great. So what I want you guys to do is just to get up, go 737 00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:09,950 make a cup of coffee. Okay. I need to see if Tara can carry herself with 738 00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:13,270 confidence around Callie right now so that her friend can do the same. 739 00:41:13,590 --> 00:41:14,770 Oh, hi, Callie. 740 00:41:14,990 --> 00:41:19,330 The more you are just as if there's not a cat there, the better everything's 741 00:41:19,330 --> 00:41:20,330 going to be. 742 00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:25,870 Take a moment and be a little chill. 743 00:41:26,350 --> 00:41:29,130 Just be chill. 744 00:41:30,379 --> 00:41:33,020 Oh, God. Okay. Okay, we're going to back up. We're going to back up. 745 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,860 Tara's friend Erin is back to her fraidy -cat ways. 746 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,600 Callie can feel it, and she's on the verge of snapping. 747 00:41:39,020 --> 00:41:42,100 This is make -or -break time for both Tara and Callie. 748 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,280 Erin, it's okay. 749 00:41:44,540 --> 00:41:45,700 I'm scared, though. 750 00:41:45,940 --> 00:41:48,300 All right, just because she's on the counter doesn't mean that she's 751 00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:49,300 in any way. 752 00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:50,700 Great. 753 00:41:50,820 --> 00:41:54,460 As soon as Tara and Erin calm down, so does Callie. 754 00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:58,570 She's no longer that antisocial cat that I met just a few weeks ago. She's 755 00:41:58,570 --> 00:42:02,670 behaving just like a normal cat should right now, mirroring the energy that's 756 00:42:02,670 --> 00:42:05,790 projected onto her. This is a reason to sort of celebrate. 757 00:42:06,010 --> 00:42:11,290 So we have Callie just walking around, just like life is happening here, and 758 00:42:11,290 --> 00:42:12,890 then she winds up right there. 759 00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:14,190 Good girl. 760 00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:19,190 Good girl, Callie. Every step that Callie takes right now is proof of her 761 00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:20,510 normalization in this world. 762 00:42:20,940 --> 00:42:26,000 That's that spot that I was hoping that she would settle into at some point in 763 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:31,880 that cocoon. She's now feeling safe, and she made the choice to be among people 764 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:36,500 and in that cocoon at the same time. To me, that's perfect, which also means 765 00:42:36,500 --> 00:42:38,120 that you don't get to move that cocoon ever. 766 00:42:38,660 --> 00:42:43,060 Callie has absolutely transformed from a violently antisocial cat. 767 00:42:43,690 --> 00:42:48,010 To one who's willing to let other humans into her life. And I give all the 768 00:42:48,010 --> 00:42:52,190 credit to Tara, who was able to overcome her guilt over her previous cat, Moose, 769 00:42:52,210 --> 00:42:55,550 and be the strong guardian that Callie needed. You guys have a great start. 770 00:42:55,810 --> 00:42:59,910 There's a lot to keep going on, but hopefully you feel at least empowered at 771 00:42:59,910 --> 00:43:00,910 this point. I do. 772 00:43:01,310 --> 00:43:05,570 For sure. There was a lot of personal sort of work that had to go into this. 773 00:43:05,570 --> 00:43:09,750 I realized that you reflected a lot of what I had to go through with my early 774 00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:14,030 work in shelters and what I had to do. There was a lot of what I consider to be 775 00:43:14,030 --> 00:43:17,950 a karmic debt that I pay forward. So I wanted to give you this. 776 00:43:18,250 --> 00:43:19,710 This medallion represents forgiveness. 777 00:43:19,970 --> 00:43:24,270 We all have to make peace with our past in order to create a positive future. 778 00:43:24,490 --> 00:43:25,490 I've learned that. 779 00:43:25,690 --> 00:43:29,810 And I hope that this serves as a reminder to Tara to forgive herself as 780 00:43:29,950 --> 00:43:33,790 because I want her and Callie to have that better tomorrow that they both want 781 00:43:33,790 --> 00:43:34,790 and deserve. 782 00:43:34,930 --> 00:43:39,610 You've done so good by your friend, by the way. I'm holding back tears. 783 00:43:39,870 --> 00:43:43,350 Why? Why are you doing that? You're always holding back tears. I know. 784 00:43:43,570 --> 00:43:47,910 Why? Just thank you. I just appreciate everything that you've helped her with, 785 00:43:48,030 --> 00:43:51,950 and I appreciate it. Thank you very much for everything. 786 00:43:52,310 --> 00:43:53,169 It's been my pleasure. 787 00:43:53,170 --> 00:43:54,170 Goodbye, Callie. 788 00:43:54,570 --> 00:44:00,530 Jackson has impacted my life in a huge way, more than he even knows. I had no 789 00:44:00,530 --> 00:44:05,510 idea what to do with Callie, but now I know she's going to be fine and I'm 790 00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:06,990 to be fine, and I feel great. 67651

Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.