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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,509 --> 00:00:06,930 Don't go near the cat. Don't try to pet the cat. 2 00:00:07,350 --> 00:00:08,470 Babe, let me out. 3 00:00:09,270 --> 00:00:13,190 I've tried so many different things and nothing has worked. I feel completely 4 00:00:13,190 --> 00:00:14,190 hopeless. 5 00:00:14,510 --> 00:00:15,510 No, no, no, no. 6 00:00:15,890 --> 00:00:16,890 Ah! 7 00:00:17,110 --> 00:00:18,650 Damn it. 8 00:00:19,710 --> 00:00:24,810 Jackson and Ivy are feral. I can't pick them up. You can't pick them up? No. Oh. 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:32,000 I am moving to Vancouver, Canada in a month, and I can't get my cat into the 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,420 carriers. I hate to see them being scared. 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,000 You go to pieces. 12 00:00:43,340 --> 00:00:44,480 I'm Jackson Galaxy. 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,000 Oh, my God, I love my job. 14 00:00:46,260 --> 00:00:50,760 The animal behavior that guardians call when they're dealing with a difficult 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:51,760 cat. 16 00:00:52,660 --> 00:00:54,900 That really ups the stakes a little bit here. 17 00:00:55,420 --> 00:00:58,620 I'm out to prove that there is no such thing as a bad cat. 18 00:00:58,820 --> 00:01:01,100 Just a cat that needs my help. Thank you. 19 00:01:05,220 --> 00:01:06,220 Hi, 20 00:01:12,100 --> 00:01:18,220 I'm Maddie. I'm Erin. We've been dating for a year. I got May at a nearby 21 00:01:18,220 --> 00:01:21,100 shelter. She was six or seven weeks old. 22 00:01:26,890 --> 00:01:33,130 My first encounter with May was actually very similar to what now I have to 23 00:01:33,130 --> 00:01:37,550 repeat to anyone else's first encounter with May. Don't go near the cat. Don't 24 00:01:37,550 --> 00:01:38,550 try to pet the cat. 25 00:01:38,670 --> 00:01:39,770 Don't look at the cat. 26 00:01:41,570 --> 00:01:48,330 May is quite aggressive and attacks all the time, and it's impossible 27 00:01:48,330 --> 00:01:51,050 to live here without living completely in fear. 28 00:01:51,390 --> 00:01:52,390 I'm trapped. 29 00:01:52,710 --> 00:01:54,290 May, let me out. 30 00:01:55,690 --> 00:01:59,990 May is aggressive to the point where blood is drawn and scratches become 31 00:02:01,470 --> 00:02:07,250 I love when she is relaxed and having her brief lovable moment. 32 00:02:07,530 --> 00:02:10,350 Then she'll wake up and bite you, yeah. That doesn't last too long. Then she'll 33 00:02:10,350 --> 00:02:12,570 attack. I feel completely hopeless. 34 00:02:12,770 --> 00:02:17,050 But I don't want to rehome her. I still love her and want her to be here. 35 00:02:17,370 --> 00:02:18,690 May, let me out. 36 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,780 Today I'm in Long Beach heading over to meet up with Guardians Maddie and Erin, 37 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:28,320 who sent out a Mayday alert about their cat, May. 38 00:02:28,660 --> 00:02:33,860 Apparently, May lashes out violently, both unprovoked and unpredictably. To 39 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,160 that has the hallmarks of a cat who's suffering. That means I can't get there 40 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,160 soon enough. 41 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,700 Hi! Hi! 42 00:02:44,180 --> 00:02:46,040 How are you doing? Good. 43 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,840 Thank you for coming. 44 00:02:49,100 --> 00:02:50,100 Of course. 45 00:02:50,460 --> 00:02:53,130 So. I hear there's quite a lot going on with your cat. 46 00:02:53,330 --> 00:02:57,070 A little bit. How old is she? A little over two and a half. Two and a half. Has 47 00:02:57,070 --> 00:02:58,330 she always been aggressive? 48 00:02:58,590 --> 00:03:03,550 She started out really nice and adorable and then kind of quickly descended into 49 00:03:03,550 --> 00:03:06,130 madness. Does she go after you guys specifically? 50 00:03:06,330 --> 00:03:07,330 Does she go after anybody? 51 00:03:07,530 --> 00:03:08,910 Well, I mean, we're here mostly. 52 00:03:09,650 --> 00:03:10,650 Where is she? 53 00:03:10,750 --> 00:03:12,970 She is in the other room. 54 00:03:13,330 --> 00:03:15,190 Let's go to the other room. Let's go meet your cat. 55 00:03:16,390 --> 00:03:17,570 This is May. 56 00:03:18,970 --> 00:03:22,090 Well, okay, the first thing I noticed, what's up with her hair? 57 00:03:22,310 --> 00:03:24,690 The vet says it is stressed over grooming. 58 00:03:25,190 --> 00:03:29,110 So, psychogenic alopecia. Now, is it always like that? 59 00:03:29,370 --> 00:03:31,010 It's gotten so much worse. 60 00:03:31,330 --> 00:03:34,490 That is pretty bad. I know. 61 00:03:35,250 --> 00:03:40,930 Psychogenic alopecia is hair falling out for no apparent reason. I've dealt with 62 00:03:40,930 --> 00:03:44,990 some serious cases of alopecia before. This one is up there. 63 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:50,300 I mean, this cat has licked herself bald, and she's doing it in a very 64 00:03:50,300 --> 00:03:51,520 methodical way. 65 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,400 Boy, she's just like May the Gargoyle right now. Look at her, man. 66 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,620 You said that you don't bring a whole lot of people over here, mainly because 67 00:04:00,620 --> 00:04:03,220 her? If I have some friends over, I have to give a speech. 68 00:04:03,460 --> 00:04:06,900 Don't look at the cat, don't touch the cat, don't go near the cat. So you 69 00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:10,240 basically have people walking in like... Yeah, already afraid. 70 00:04:12,810 --> 00:04:18,570 The worst thing that Mae does is her surprise bite attack because you don't 71 00:04:18,570 --> 00:04:21,550 it coming. You have no way to protect yourself. 72 00:04:21,930 --> 00:04:26,390 What I'm going to do right now, just so you know, is challenge her just a little 73 00:04:26,390 --> 00:04:32,290 bit. See where the line is with her, where she goes from being okay Mae to 74 00:04:32,290 --> 00:04:33,199 okay Mae. 75 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:38,960 The way I'm challenging May today is by presenting actual threats to her. I will 76 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,060 cut off her escape routes to see how she responds to that. I'm also going to 77 00:04:43,060 --> 00:04:46,900 present friendly gestures and see how she responds to that and see if there's 78 00:04:46,900 --> 00:04:51,420 any logic in her responses. If I approach you as a friend and you claw my 79 00:04:51,420 --> 00:04:53,100 out, I got information. 80 00:04:53,580 --> 00:04:55,180 Look, it's food. 81 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:57,680 You want it? 82 00:05:01,770 --> 00:05:02,910 I am so scared. 83 00:05:03,770 --> 00:05:04,770 Would that be okay? 84 00:05:07,130 --> 00:05:08,130 Ha ha. 85 00:05:08,610 --> 00:05:09,610 Or not. 86 00:05:12,210 --> 00:05:14,410 She can't be touched where? Anywhere. 87 00:05:15,390 --> 00:05:16,410 He touched her. 88 00:05:17,730 --> 00:05:18,730 It's okay, baby. 89 00:05:19,010 --> 00:05:20,010 It's okay. 90 00:05:20,190 --> 00:05:24,710 I'm trying to get May to be in a relaxed space with me, and in the meantime, her 91 00:05:24,710 --> 00:05:29,390 guardians are going into horror movie mode every time I make a move towards 92 00:05:29,530 --> 00:05:34,350 I want her striking out from a place of over -ownership of the space. I want to 93 00:05:34,350 --> 00:05:38,710 see if she's rational in her behavior, and I can't see that until she's more 94 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:42,070 relaxed. I'm going to have you leave the room for a minute. I'm just trying to 95 00:05:42,070 --> 00:05:43,910 get some kind of honest response from her. 96 00:05:44,270 --> 00:05:45,270 Hi, Mindy. 97 00:05:45,770 --> 00:05:46,770 Hi, sweetie. 98 00:05:46,910 --> 00:05:47,910 It's okay. 99 00:05:49,070 --> 00:05:50,070 Wow. 100 00:05:50,870 --> 00:05:53,290 Moms leave the room for a second. This is what I get? 101 00:05:55,610 --> 00:06:02,550 The method to my madness is I am going to push 102 00:06:02,550 --> 00:06:07,730 May. I want to see how appropriate or inappropriate her responses are. 103 00:06:08,310 --> 00:06:13,450 She is coming after me like a cat on fire. 104 00:06:13,730 --> 00:06:16,970 When May decides that I'm a real threat, 105 00:06:17,790 --> 00:06:20,310 Forget it, man. I don't stand a chance right now. 106 00:06:22,810 --> 00:06:24,430 Oh, damn, you got some claws. 107 00:06:25,470 --> 00:06:29,870 I'm going to back away. I'm going to try to present myself as an ally and not an 108 00:06:29,870 --> 00:06:32,110 enemy and see how she appreciates that. 109 00:06:35,050 --> 00:06:39,250 That one hurt, eh? 110 00:06:39,590 --> 00:06:43,710 I am not giving up until I get a clear idea of what's up with me. You can go 111 00:06:43,710 --> 00:06:44,710 over there if you want. 112 00:06:45,930 --> 00:06:51,190 The exercise of challenge line is about finding a rational spot where I need to 113 00:06:51,190 --> 00:06:55,110 stop my stimulation of the cat. There is no rational spot with May. 114 00:06:56,390 --> 00:06:58,150 And that concerns me. 115 00:07:13,260 --> 00:07:15,080 This is a conciliatory gesture. 116 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,400 She's literally reaching out to me. 117 00:07:17,620 --> 00:07:23,920 There's no doubt in my mind a shroud disappears from her, that shroud of 118 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,840 madness, and reveals a much sweeter version of May, desperate to find her 119 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,240 out. And that's why I'm here. 120 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,560 Just because I get a moment of vulnerability from May doesn't mean that 121 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,960 done. Now I want to see if we can sustain that. Can we form a 122 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:41,960 is this just a moment? 123 00:07:43,660 --> 00:07:44,660 Out, not. 124 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:52,040 You are not messing around. We have a momentary emergence of reason followed 125 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,120 by a whole lot of crazy. 126 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,520 No, no, no, no. 127 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,040 Out, 128 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,280 not. You are not messing around. 129 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,800 Truth. No, no, no, no. 130 00:08:14,820 --> 00:08:17,100 Damn it. 131 00:08:17,340 --> 00:08:21,340 I'm at Guardian Aaron and Maddie's house right now. Shortly after my arrival, I 132 00:08:21,340 --> 00:08:24,880 began a series of challenge line tests with their cat, May, and I'm getting a 133 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,800 pretty severe beatdown in return. Despite the pain, I'm doing my best to 134 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:29,800 it out. 135 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,120 Just the truth. 136 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:33,840 No truth. 137 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:40,500 I am willing to lose half the blood in my arm if it means that I can leave on a 138 00:08:40,500 --> 00:08:41,960 positive note with her. 139 00:08:47,690 --> 00:08:49,490 I don't know what else to do with you. I really don't. 140 00:08:49,790 --> 00:08:54,070 I literally have not been beaten up this bad in a long time. I mean, there comes 141 00:08:54,070 --> 00:08:58,110 a moment where if I don't call it quit soon, I'm going to lose a digit. 142 00:09:05,910 --> 00:09:06,910 Wait, what's that? 143 00:09:07,030 --> 00:09:08,150 Can you give me a little blink? 144 00:09:08,850 --> 00:09:09,850 That's a good girl. 145 00:09:10,410 --> 00:09:14,350 Right when I give up, Nay is showing me vulnerability. 146 00:09:15,310 --> 00:09:20,370 I get to exchange some blinks with her, some slow head movements. We're talking. 147 00:09:20,510 --> 00:09:22,090 We're having a conversation. 148 00:09:22,770 --> 00:09:26,130 There's something behind claws and teeth, and that's a beating heart. 149 00:09:26,510 --> 00:09:28,290 May needs help. 150 00:09:30,370 --> 00:09:36,750 Okay, so I asked for this. This is on me. So we got to get to work. First and 151 00:09:36,750 --> 00:09:38,230 foremost, we got to get her on medication. 152 00:09:38,690 --> 00:09:41,510 Mentally, she's suffering, and that's the bottom line. 153 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,780 If your cat is a threat to themselves or a threat to others, and it's in a very 154 00:09:45,780 --> 00:09:50,220 unpredictable way, your cat is suffering and your cat needs help. Period. End of 155 00:09:50,220 --> 00:09:53,360 sentence. There's other stuff I want you guys to do. It's not just about give 156 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,360 meds and walk away. 157 00:09:54,540 --> 00:09:59,920 I want you to be cataloging the where's in your house, okay? We're looking for 158 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:01,160 what I call the confident where. 159 00:10:01,460 --> 00:10:05,440 Confident where is when her body goes from this to this. 160 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,640 Tell me where that is. Because those are the things we'll capitalize on. We'll 161 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,880 start building her a world starting from where she feels safe and confident. 162 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:18,700 So I want you to be playing with her. And I want you, obviously, to use toys 163 00:10:18,700 --> 00:10:21,120 where your hand is nowhere near the cat. 164 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,540 Once the meds start to take effect and Mae is hopefully in a better mind frame, 165 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,240 then we can use the play to divert her from the over -grooming. The most 166 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:34,880 important homework I can give you is that when you're scared, act as if 167 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,940 not. The stakes are pretty high if Maddie and Aaron don't accomplish all of 168 00:10:38,940 --> 00:10:42,660 I'm laying out. If they think that it's bad now, this is the tip of the iceberg. 169 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,400 I worked my butt off just to get a moment with her where I saw her poking 170 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,320 through the clouds. I feel like I know your cat like you know her at this 171 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,340 and she's not what she seems to be. 172 00:10:54,580 --> 00:11:00,580 I believe that. If the homework is not successful, I'm going to be scared about 173 00:11:00,580 --> 00:11:02,000 May's future. 174 00:11:02,380 --> 00:11:03,760 Just hang in there, okay? 175 00:11:04,270 --> 00:11:04,949 Thank you. 176 00:11:04,950 --> 00:11:06,170 I'll talk to you soon. Bye. 177 00:11:06,950 --> 00:11:11,230 Tell you what, man, I got beat up today, but it was totally worth it. I know 178 00:11:11,230 --> 00:11:12,890 this cat better than I could have possibly. 179 00:11:13,270 --> 00:11:16,070 I may be hurting, but in the long run, she won't be. 180 00:11:24,830 --> 00:11:28,090 My name is Jennifer, and I have two cats, Jackson and Ivy. 181 00:11:29,020 --> 00:11:33,720 Jackson and Ivy are feral. They don't attack, but they're very scared. 182 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:39,920 They're always hyper -aware of anything going on, any noise, any movement, and 183 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,140 they're really scared of strangers. 184 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:47,320 I knew when I adopted them that they were unadoptable, and I knew it was 185 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:53,540 to be hard, but I took on that commitment and that responsibility, so I 186 00:11:53,540 --> 00:11:56,560 totally devoted to them, and I want to do whatever I can. 187 00:11:57,100 --> 00:12:02,260 I am moving to Vancouver, Canada in a month, and I can't get my cats into the 188 00:12:02,260 --> 00:12:07,280 carrier. I'm just trying to run after them, and they are running away from me 189 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,100 and hiding. It's impossible. 190 00:12:09,380 --> 00:12:14,360 I just want the tools to help me to get my cats being really comfortable in the 191 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:19,000 carriers because I have a long car ride ahead of me. The cats are going to be 192 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,260 freaked out. I am going to be freaked out. 193 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,100 So I'm about to meet up for the first time with Jennifer and her two cats, 194 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,240 Jackson and Ivy, who refuse to get into a cat carrier. Now, you think that 195 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,360 that's a small deal? Think about emergencies. Think about going to the 196 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,400 not a small deal. And she faces a problem that many cat guardians do. How 197 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,720 get cats to do what they don't want to do? 198 00:12:41,220 --> 00:12:42,220 That's why I'm here. 199 00:12:44,020 --> 00:12:46,900 Hey. Hi, Jackson. Hi, I'm Jennifer. 200 00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:50,040 Jennifer, how are you? Good to meet you. The cats are in the bedroom. 201 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:51,960 Come on in. 202 00:12:51,980 --> 00:12:55,540 I know that we're dealing with some fraidy cats. 203 00:12:55,860 --> 00:13:00,080 Yes. They are a little over three years old. Okay. They're feral cats. 204 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,060 I volunteer at a shelter, that's where I met them, and they would just run and 205 00:13:04,060 --> 00:13:08,480 hide when anyone came in. Wow. But I couldn't just... you know, leave them 206 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,180 and wanted them to have a home. Were they ever considered adoptable? No, they 207 00:13:12,180 --> 00:13:13,600 were considered unadoptable. 208 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:18,600 Wow. And they were rescued when they were a few months old, so they weren't 209 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,880 really fully socialized. How many months? 210 00:13:21,420 --> 00:13:25,280 About three months old, so they just kind of missed that window. 211 00:13:25,540 --> 00:13:26,660 Right there. Yeah. 212 00:13:27,630 --> 00:13:31,530 Get all the information that they need to succeed socially in life. Between the 213 00:13:31,530 --> 00:13:36,830 ages of three and nine weeks old, pass there. It's a crapshoot whether or not 214 00:13:36,830 --> 00:13:39,490 they will ever acclimate to humans. I see somebody. 215 00:13:39,730 --> 00:13:40,730 Oh, yeah. 216 00:13:40,790 --> 00:13:44,590 Who is that? That is Jackson. He is named after you. Oh, is he really? Yes. 217 00:13:44,810 --> 00:13:46,890 Oh, that's embarrassing. 218 00:13:47,470 --> 00:13:50,470 Okay, so let's just sit down here. 219 00:13:51,610 --> 00:13:52,650 Hello, my friend. 220 00:13:52,850 --> 00:13:53,930 Hello, my friend. 221 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:55,259 Where's Ivy? 222 00:13:55,260 --> 00:13:58,840 She is probably hiding here under the ottoman. 223 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:04,700 I got Jackson under the bed, but at least making contact with me. But Ivy, 224 00:14:04,700 --> 00:14:05,700 going to be a tough one. 225 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,680 I've been trying to socialize them as much as I can. They're a lot better than 226 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:12,140 they were. Like, I can pet them a little bit when they're really relaxed. 227 00:14:12,860 --> 00:14:16,620 But I can't pick them up. You can't pick them up? No. 228 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:17,920 Oh. 229 00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:20,020 Yeah. Okay. 230 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,220 Wow, man. Okay. 231 00:14:25,140 --> 00:14:28,760 Usually, ferals have a decent sense of trust with their guardians. It's 232 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,460 outsiders who can't get near them. But from what Jennifer is telling me, her 233 00:14:32,460 --> 00:14:33,820 issues go even beyond that. 234 00:14:34,060 --> 00:14:35,540 Now, tell me the rest of the story. 235 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,000 In the apartment right below mine, there was a fire. 236 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:45,760 About a year ago. So the alarm was blazing. I was desperately trying to 237 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,940 cats and get them into carriers so I could evacuate them. But the problem is 238 00:14:49,940 --> 00:14:54,080 that I can't even pick them up when they're relaxed, much less when a fire 239 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:59,100 is blazing and they're terrified. And eventually, like, I had to just evacuate 240 00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:03,540 without them. Oh, you had to leave without them. I did. It was 241 00:15:03,980 --> 00:15:05,080 Thankfully, they were fine. 242 00:15:05,300 --> 00:15:08,100 And, you know, the fire was contained and put out quickly. 243 00:15:09,150 --> 00:15:13,370 I just feel like I can't keep them safe. I can't care for them the way I want 244 00:15:13,370 --> 00:15:15,810 to. There's a story I've heard many times over. 245 00:15:16,210 --> 00:15:22,330 I actually even experienced it with a friend of mine who lost her cat. Oh, my 246 00:15:22,330 --> 00:15:27,790 God. Being in that position, it would kill me. I really feel for Jennifer. 247 00:15:28,370 --> 00:15:33,010 That's a heartbreaking decision to make. Do you feel like there are keys that 248 00:15:33,010 --> 00:15:36,350 you've found that help to bring them around? 249 00:15:37,770 --> 00:15:42,490 hard. They aren't very food motivated. Like, nope, we don't care. We're not 250 00:15:42,490 --> 00:15:44,990 interested. All cats are food motivated. 251 00:15:45,310 --> 00:15:47,310 Watch this. Going straight to the big guns. 252 00:15:47,610 --> 00:15:49,850 We're going sardines. Let's have some breakfast together. 253 00:15:50,210 --> 00:15:51,210 What do you say? 254 00:15:51,890 --> 00:15:55,030 What if I give it to you right out of my hand because I really got a feeling you 255 00:15:55,030 --> 00:15:56,030 might take it from me. 256 00:15:57,250 --> 00:15:58,250 Good boy. 257 00:15:59,490 --> 00:16:00,790 Is it a good boy? Here. 258 00:16:02,110 --> 00:16:03,230 Oh, there we go. 259 00:16:03,490 --> 00:16:04,490 Good job, baby. 260 00:16:04,530 --> 00:16:06,110 And there's some more right there. 261 00:16:07,079 --> 00:16:08,760 And can you come even further? 262 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:10,720 Good boy, Jackson. 263 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:16,180 Now the presentation of a challenge line, right? Because that is pretty far 264 00:16:16,180 --> 00:16:20,760 there for him. If Jackson is willing to stick his head out and his shoulders out 265 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:25,260 under that bed, for me, a stranger, that defines having your cat do something 266 00:16:25,260 --> 00:16:27,600 they don't want to do. And Ivy is no different. 267 00:16:27,820 --> 00:16:29,840 Eventually, food will override her fear. 268 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,800 Oh, honey. Oh, that's Ivy. That was Ivy? Yeah. 269 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,380 Oh, there she goes, baby girl. 270 00:16:36,780 --> 00:16:37,780 Oh, sweetheart. 271 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:38,920 Now. 272 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,140 Now. I know. Let's talk, okay? 273 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,500 Let's talk. She has plenty of hiding spaces. 274 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,420 I know, but I hate to see them being here. I know you do. I know you do. 275 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,200 Judging by what just happened with Ivy, you go to pieces. 276 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,440 Yeah. 277 00:16:54,790 --> 00:16:58,450 Ivy just got spooked for a second, which for a feral cat is nothing out of the 278 00:16:58,450 --> 00:17:00,810 ordinary, and Jennifer is a total mess. 279 00:17:01,050 --> 00:17:05,849 So if Jennifer is going to burst into tears watching Ivy get scared walking 280 00:17:05,849 --> 00:17:10,950 across the room, how does she expect to get her into a carrier, transport her 21 281 00:17:10,950 --> 00:17:15,329 hours into a new territory, set up that territory, and think that these cats are 282 00:17:15,329 --> 00:17:16,930 going to thrive in that new territory? 283 00:17:17,790 --> 00:17:19,950 Jennifer's got a little bit of waking up to do right now. 284 00:17:20,530 --> 00:17:22,670 Oh, that's got to go. 285 00:17:33,090 --> 00:17:34,210 Oh, off she goes. 286 00:17:34,730 --> 00:17:38,150 Judging by what just happened with Ivy, you go to pieces. 287 00:17:38,510 --> 00:17:42,070 I know, but I hate to see them being scared. I know you do. I know you do. 288 00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:45,930 Ivy just got spooked for a second, and Jennifer is a total mess. 289 00:17:46,270 --> 00:17:48,570 You just about broke down in tears watching her do that. 290 00:17:48,770 --> 00:17:51,230 The bigger challenge to me right now is the human, for sure. 291 00:17:51,750 --> 00:17:54,590 Okay, let's go talk homework with you, okay? Yeah. 292 00:17:54,790 --> 00:17:58,710 If I can't get Jennifer on board, and I mean now, I might as well throw in the 293 00:17:58,710 --> 00:17:59,710 towel here. 294 00:17:59,850 --> 00:18:01,190 So here's what I want to do. 295 00:18:01,900 --> 00:18:07,420 I think that this begins with you, right? I think it would be really useful 296 00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:12,080 you to find your comfortable center when it comes to dealing with them. 297 00:18:12,910 --> 00:18:15,510 Have you ever meditated before? Have you ever done meditation? 298 00:18:15,770 --> 00:18:21,390 A little bit. I want every day, just five minutes before you interact with 299 00:18:21,530 --> 00:18:25,850 First and foremost, I want Jennifer to face life with her cats in a grounded, 300 00:18:25,890 --> 00:18:30,390 present way with the practice of meditation so that she can look at 301 00:18:30,390 --> 00:18:34,090 the outside in and say, am I presenting energy that my cats are going to pick up 302 00:18:34,090 --> 00:18:35,290 on, negative or positive? 303 00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:38,030 After that, movable base camp. 304 00:18:38,540 --> 00:18:43,580 The most crucial part of base camp for these cats is their carriers. I want 305 00:18:43,580 --> 00:18:49,100 Jennifer to break the task of getting her cat into the carrier, into the 306 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:54,420 smallest possible task, that then become achievable challenge lines one after 307 00:18:54,420 --> 00:18:59,000 the other instead of one massive challenge line ice bath for her cat. 308 00:18:59,260 --> 00:19:02,820 You've got to feed your cats in the carrier to get them to positively 309 00:19:02,820 --> 00:19:04,360 the carrier with good things. 310 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,940 Once you can feed him and you go like that, he's fine, cool. The next treat, 311 00:19:09,060 --> 00:19:10,300 like that, he's cool. 312 00:19:10,620 --> 00:19:14,900 And if he's not, if he's going like this, but he's still dealing with it, do 313 00:19:14,900 --> 00:19:19,360 same action three, four, five times until you get all the way close. 314 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:24,280 Every time that you extinguish a challenge line, you're moving forward, 315 00:19:24,910 --> 00:19:28,410 Jennifer has a lot of work to do before I get back here next time, and I know 316 00:19:28,410 --> 00:19:31,750 it's daunting, and I know putting her cat through challenge is really 317 00:19:31,750 --> 00:19:35,610 emotionally challenging for her, but we got to do it. Take care, okay? 318 00:19:35,910 --> 00:19:36,910 Thanks, you too. 319 00:19:36,950 --> 00:19:42,170 All right, bye -bye. Bye. Jackson was totally accurate in his assessment, not 320 00:19:42,170 --> 00:19:45,970 just of Jackson and Ivy, but of me. If the homework doesn't work, I'm screwed. 321 00:19:46,930 --> 00:19:48,430 I don't know what I'm going to do. 322 00:19:51,670 --> 00:19:53,430 I'm trapped. 323 00:20:00,170 --> 00:20:03,210 I'm here for my second visit with Maddie and Aaron and their cat, Mae. 324 00:20:03,410 --> 00:20:07,350 Mae, who gave me one of the most epic feedings I've ever taken by a cat 325 00:20:07,490 --> 00:20:11,290 I gave these guys the homework to get Mae on medication with the hopes that we 326 00:20:11,290 --> 00:20:15,030 could successfully reintroduce her to a world that is just not on fire. 327 00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:16,530 Hopefully that's the case. 328 00:20:19,610 --> 00:20:23,790 Well, hey. Welcome back. How are you? Good to see you. Good to see you. 329 00:20:24,570 --> 00:20:25,890 Just right off the bat. 330 00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:29,640 Since the last time I was here, did anybody get as bloody as me? 331 00:20:30,660 --> 00:20:31,920 No, thank God. 332 00:20:32,140 --> 00:20:34,820 No. Okay, no attacks on you guys? 333 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:37,060 A couple little attacks. A minor one. 334 00:20:37,260 --> 00:20:40,580 So when you talk minor, what does minor look like? It's like she thinks she 335 00:20:40,580 --> 00:20:46,160 should be attacking, but she's just not really into it since we started her on 336 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,660 the medication. I was going to say, see, that's the beauty of finding the right 337 00:20:49,660 --> 00:20:52,860 medication. I'm glad the anxiety medication is working. That's amazing. 338 00:20:53,060 --> 00:20:54,720 Let's see what you guys have been up to. 339 00:21:01,180 --> 00:21:03,100 Erin's sitting on the couch petting Kitty. 340 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,440 What the hell? 341 00:21:04,580 --> 00:21:06,120 See, look, she's petting her tummy. 342 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:07,640 Excuse me. 343 00:21:08,180 --> 00:21:13,660 We cut to smiley face while we pet the cat, right? 344 00:21:14,460 --> 00:21:19,020 So that's pretty amazing. I mean, for you to be able to just sit there and pet 345 00:21:19,020 --> 00:21:21,460 May means that something went right. 346 00:21:21,950 --> 00:21:27,550 So I'm trying to play with May before feeding her, as suggested by Jackson. 347 00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:30,950 As usual, she is not very interested. 348 00:21:31,550 --> 00:21:36,890 Why doesn't my cat want to play with me? Come on! The only way you're going to 349 00:21:36,890 --> 00:21:39,650 get your cat into this is to be the bird. 350 00:21:39,970 --> 00:21:43,690 These guardians have got to understand that you've got to take on the role of 351 00:21:43,690 --> 00:21:47,590 the prey animal when you handle that toy in order for your cat to truly engage. 352 00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:51,310 Last time I was here, I wanted you guys to sort of mark out the concept. 353 00:21:51,370 --> 00:21:55,230 confident wares in this house. And I'd like to tour those places. Can you take 354 00:21:55,230 --> 00:21:55,729 me around? 355 00:21:55,730 --> 00:21:57,190 Yeah. Treasure hunt. 356 00:21:57,530 --> 00:22:03,130 So the annoying part is that she likes to sit in the middle of the bath mat 357 00:22:03,130 --> 00:22:03,989 right there. 358 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:08,470 So usually when we would be trying to come into the bathroom, you can't 359 00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:15,250 that's her spot to hang out. Okay, so it is a pretty territorially iffy 360 00:22:15,250 --> 00:22:17,310 place. A real button pusher for you guys. 361 00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:20,630 You're going to have that moment of... Maybe I don't have to go to bed, right? 362 00:22:20,770 --> 00:22:26,490 And your challenge is going to be, I'm going to the bathroom. That's going to 363 00:22:26,490 --> 00:22:29,170 tough. I know it will be. So let's move on to the next one. 364 00:22:29,490 --> 00:22:33,350 The last confident where is on the bed. And right next to that X is Mae. 365 00:22:33,550 --> 00:22:37,670 You would assume that that confident place would have been the shelf where I 366 00:22:37,670 --> 00:22:41,270 Mae the last time I was here. But that's not confidence. That's the unconfident 367 00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:43,350 where. That's where she goes to be scared and angry. 368 00:22:43,570 --> 00:22:45,490 She sits here a lot. 369 00:22:45,710 --> 00:22:47,050 Erin has to... 370 00:22:47,610 --> 00:22:51,550 curl up on that part of the bed or wait for her to leave because she's been 371 00:22:51,550 --> 00:22:53,150 scared of the cat for good reason. 372 00:22:54,210 --> 00:22:55,210 Oh, my God. 373 00:22:55,290 --> 00:22:56,930 This is a big moment. 374 00:22:57,270 --> 00:23:00,350 I love what I just saw. I am super stunned. 375 00:23:00,570 --> 00:23:01,750 Yeah. What about you? It's incredible. 376 00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:05,110 You're, like, tearing up. I know. I know. 377 00:23:05,370 --> 00:23:07,410 I am so stunned right now. 378 00:23:07,690 --> 00:23:10,250 I was not expecting this. 379 00:23:10,650 --> 00:23:11,690 Oh, my God. 380 00:23:12,590 --> 00:23:16,230 Now, considering all that these three have been through together, It's quite a 381 00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:17,250 beautiful moment, really. 382 00:23:17,450 --> 00:23:22,310 I thought this was always going to be an issue, and feeling relief is so 383 00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:24,110 incredible. I bet, man. 384 00:23:24,590 --> 00:23:28,330 Maddie's response is just beautiful right now because she's never had this 385 00:23:28,330 --> 00:23:32,710 moment before, and to see her get it is really worth it. Last time I was here, 386 00:23:32,910 --> 00:23:37,870 the reason why I got as decimated as I got was because I knew there was 387 00:23:37,870 --> 00:23:41,190 something else there, and I kept going in because I kept thinking that I was 388 00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:45,210 going to get there with her. But she didn't want to do that, but she had to 389 00:23:45,210 --> 00:23:49,580 it. Now you're seeing that impulse starting to wane, and maybe every now 390 00:23:49,580 --> 00:23:52,400 again there's a little bit of a half -hearted thing, but it's pretty much 391 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,540 Right now, May is making progress, but I think that Maddie and Aaron are 392 00:23:56,540 --> 00:23:58,220 thinking, hey, this is wonderful. 393 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,040 We have a happy cat. She's on medication. It's over. 394 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,700 No, it's just beginning. 395 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,080 May and Aaron had a nice moment, but that's all it was. It was a moment. We 396 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,660 every moment to be like this in order to erase the fear and the distress that 397 00:24:10,660 --> 00:24:11,660 exists on both sides. 398 00:24:12,060 --> 00:24:16,080 I need you to reintroduce yourself to Mae because I think that's what's 399 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,560 necessary. You've been carrying around the weight of her violence. Yeah. 400 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,140 And now it's time to start releasing it. Today, I got to say that moment that 401 00:24:24,140 --> 00:24:26,160 was so beautiful because you had no expectations. 402 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,440 So I need you guys to stay on each other about those expectations. 403 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,000 When I do this exercise with cats, it's about reintroducing like you've never 404 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,500 met before, even though you've had a bad encounter. It's the same thing with 405 00:24:36,500 --> 00:24:39,620 these guys. They have to act like they've just met Mae without fear. 406 00:24:40,060 --> 00:24:44,360 We have now identified her confident wares. So now the fun part is expanding 407 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:47,020 those confident wares to the confident everywhere. 408 00:24:47,340 --> 00:24:50,860 For instance, the bath mat. The bath mat is not serving a very good purpose 409 00:24:50,860 --> 00:24:54,420 right now. It's a big X, but it's also something that you are now avoiding. So 410 00:24:54,420 --> 00:24:59,720 pull it out. Then guide her to these places. Now we get into the over 411 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,740 I notice May's alopecia isn't getting any better. This over -grooming thing 412 00:25:03,740 --> 00:25:04,740 got to be addressed. 413 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,260 I know that there's stuff that we can do to help stop it. 414 00:25:07,580 --> 00:25:11,160 Proactively, it's stepping up your play so that we can redirect that impulse. 415 00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:15,220 And you see her doing it? Just guide her head away. You know, it gives the body 416 00:25:15,220 --> 00:25:19,040 a chance to regenerate. Maze over grooming is an obsessive behavior, but 417 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,240 good news is that Maddie and Erin can help redirect maze grooming by 418 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,600 her with play. I will talk to you in a few weeks, okay? Thank you, Jackson. All 419 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,060 right, of course. See you soon. Bye. 420 00:25:28,260 --> 00:25:29,260 Bye. 421 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,800 Amazing. Mae is not suffering anymore, and that's great. But what Maddie and 422 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,320 Aaron have to realize is that's not where we end. That's where we begin. 423 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,720 How are things going here? 424 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,740 There are definitely some bad parts. 425 00:25:43,940 --> 00:25:45,200 Don't be scared, Aaron. 426 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,980 I'm here in San Bernardino, California to meet up with Shanta and her husband 427 00:26:05,980 --> 00:26:10,760 Scott, and there are two cats from heaven, Ariadne and Arcady. Now these 428 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,540 cats are mobility challenged, but that does not stop them from getting around 429 00:26:14,540 --> 00:26:17,840 and getting into trouble just like any other cat. I can't wait to meet them. 430 00:26:19,580 --> 00:26:20,840 Hello. Hi there. 431 00:26:21,220 --> 00:26:22,540 Hi, how are you? I'm Jackson. 432 00:26:22,740 --> 00:26:25,260 Oh my gosh, nice to meet you. I'm Shanta. Shanta, good to meet you. 433 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,040 It's Catland. 434 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,740 Oh my God, there's so much to watch right now. I'm Shanta, and this is my 435 00:26:30,740 --> 00:26:31,679 husband Scott. 436 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,960 We foster cats with special needs. 437 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,300 Let's meet some cats. Okay. Okay, so who scooted this way? That was... Ariadne. 438 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:42,120 This is Ariadne. She was born without hip sockets. 439 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,420 Wow. I've never seen a cat born without hip sockets. 440 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,740 Who is this? That's Arcady. What's going on with Arcady? He was born paralyzed, 441 00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:55,100 and his hips are deformed and his knees are deformed. Man. 442 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,920 He's a mess, but a very happy mess. 443 00:26:59,180 --> 00:27:03,280 Even though neither one of them have use of their back legs, that doesn't stop 444 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,280 them from being able to get around and having fun. 445 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,160 So the box thing happened when? 446 00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:10,240 He was five months. 447 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,400 He has a wheelchair, but he loves the box. 448 00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:16,200 It's like a little hover around, man. He could spin. 449 00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:18,940 Oh, wow. Here we go. Here we go. 450 00:27:19,140 --> 00:27:25,420 The thing that I find so amazing about animals, no self -pity, no 451 00:27:25,420 --> 00:27:28,400 awareness of I'm different from anybody else. 452 00:27:29,020 --> 00:27:34,880 I am Ariadne, I am Arkady, and get them away, right? I mean, it's inspiring. 453 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:41,640 If your reaction to seeing Ariadne and Arkady is, oh, it's a sad story, 454 00:27:41,860 --> 00:27:43,840 you're missing the point. 455 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:50,640 They're happy animals living a happy life with a happy family. So I noticed 456 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,100 they have outfits on. 457 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:57,420 The outfits that I've created, I just... Pulled fabric out that I had. It's 458 00:27:57,420 --> 00:27:58,560 simple, but they work. 459 00:27:58,980 --> 00:28:00,080 Water resistant. 460 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,940 Plus it protects their belly as well. It protects them. 461 00:28:02,380 --> 00:28:06,580 Look, everyone who knows me knows that I don't like putting animals in clothes. 462 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:12,600 Now, in this case, these guys need this clothing. If it serves a purpose, go 463 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:18,600 with it. So now we have Ariadne and Arcady. But who was the first that came 464 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,600 you? Tegan was our first. 465 00:28:20,180 --> 00:28:24,500 Oh, she's so adorable. Tell me the story about Tegan. Tegan was... 466 00:28:32,950 --> 00:28:38,970 She went from being perfectly fine to gone. 467 00:28:40,510 --> 00:28:46,170 Shanta's grief is still strong, but she had the strength to turn that into 468 00:28:46,170 --> 00:28:47,490 something very positive. 469 00:28:47,850 --> 00:28:51,970 And a lot of people would have just crawled into a hole and possibly never 470 00:28:51,970 --> 00:28:52,970 have adopted another cat. 471 00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:55,870 And these guys went completely headlong in the other direction. 472 00:28:56,270 --> 00:29:01,190 Doing cats without special needs just isn't our thing anymore. Now it's the 473 00:29:01,190 --> 00:29:02,029 special ones. 474 00:29:02,030 --> 00:29:05,130 One thing that's so crucial about the work that Shanta and Scott are doing is 475 00:29:05,130 --> 00:29:09,650 that these cats, if not adopted and fostered by them, would likely have been 476 00:29:09,650 --> 00:29:14,230 euthanized. Shanta and Scott, by continuing to adopt and foster cats like 477 00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:18,310 Ariadne and Arcady and then raising awareness, these cats are saving a lot 478 00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:22,390 lives. We had the opportunity of visiting junior high classrooms and the 479 00:29:22,390 --> 00:29:23,390 reception was amazing. 480 00:29:23,610 --> 00:29:29,610 I have this hunger to just share with people what we've learned because a lot 481 00:29:29,610 --> 00:29:31,530 people don't realize that cats like this exist. 482 00:29:32,030 --> 00:29:36,890 I learned this, and I have to share it. I can't keep it quiet. For Tegan, I have 483 00:29:36,890 --> 00:29:43,170 to share it. I leave here with a big smile on my face. I met cats today who 484 00:29:43,170 --> 00:29:47,370 embrace life in a way that no other cat can. 485 00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:53,030 And at the same time, I met two people who just want to make life better for 486 00:29:53,030 --> 00:29:56,150 these cats, and that's all they care about. These are my people. 487 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,720 So I'm here for my second visit with Jennifer and her two cats, Jackson and 488 00:30:12,860 --> 00:30:16,200 Now, when I left these guys last time, it was all about baby steps, trying to 489 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,480 make positive associations, because when it comes to trauma here, Jennifer's got 490 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,580 as much as these cats do, and they both have challenges that they had to face. 491 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,720 Hopefully they did. 492 00:30:25,860 --> 00:30:29,100 How's life in the world of Jackson and Ivy? 493 00:30:29,940 --> 00:30:31,480 It's going pretty well. Yeah? 494 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,980 Making some progress. 495 00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:37,220 Good. That's what we want. We want progress. Let's take a look at your 496 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,300 Time for my daily meditation. 497 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:40,840 Good. 498 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,280 Love this. 499 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,800 Love it. 500 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:59,320 And look 501 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,140 at you. What do you do? 502 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,579 You walk away. 503 00:31:05,580 --> 00:31:09,920 Now, that's a big deal for you. The cats are going into the carriers on their 504 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,360 own because they don't feel a sense of pressure. All they feel is, hey, there's 505 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,820 food, and I'm going in. All right, that's for you. 506 00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:18,140 That's for little Mr. 507 00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:19,500 Jackson. 508 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,720 I'm just going to do this. 509 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,640 Wait, 510 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,240 am I seeing this right? 511 00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:29,020 That's Ivy in there with door closed? 512 00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:30,119 Yeah. 513 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,720 Girl, nice. 514 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,160 What I've seen in the video homework shows me that these guys are embracing 515 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,800 those baby steps. Now, she's got to get it in her bones that she can do 516 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,840 processes like this over and over and over again. So, I've got something else 517 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,569 my sleeve. 518 00:31:46,570 --> 00:31:50,490 So I want you to start getting your fire drill in your head. Obviously, you guys 519 00:31:50,490 --> 00:31:53,630 have been through an actual fire. I hope there's never another emergency like 520 00:31:53,630 --> 00:31:56,950 that, but I want you to be prepared for it. What I'm also talking about is the 521 00:31:56,950 --> 00:32:02,390 act of getting these guys into a kennel and what your next steps are after that 522 00:32:02,390 --> 00:32:05,630 in a thought -out way. 523 00:32:05,950 --> 00:32:08,510 Now, I'm going to give you two minutes. 524 00:32:09,540 --> 00:32:13,140 You're going to go into that room and go through everything that you showed me 525 00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:17,880 on homework, which is your feeding exercise into the kennel, doors closed. 526 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,180 now, time is the thing that puts pressure on us. 527 00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:27,660 Your challenge is to get through this pressure meditatively. 528 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,120 I'm freaking out right now. This is a lot of pressure, and I've never timed 529 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,520 myself, so I have no idea how it's going to go. 530 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,840 I know. 531 00:32:40,590 --> 00:32:41,469 Very nice. 532 00:32:41,470 --> 00:32:42,470 Let's do this. 533 00:32:43,150 --> 00:32:47,990 Now, the objective here with this dry run is to keep the pressure on Jennifer 534 00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:52,810 she can keep acting rationally when the pressure's on. And I can't be with her 535 00:32:52,810 --> 00:32:56,850 when she lands in Canada, but I want my words in her head. And I want her to 536 00:32:56,850 --> 00:32:59,230 know that she's got options when she gets there. 537 00:33:00,190 --> 00:33:03,070 And... Go. 538 00:33:03,290 --> 00:33:05,430 I'm going to have her put those cats in carriers. 539 00:33:05,630 --> 00:33:07,390 Door is closed in two minutes. 540 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,260 Ticking clock. I want to see how she responds under serious pressure. 541 00:33:23,540 --> 00:33:28,520 I'm all about pushing. I'm all about challenging. But when you have two cats 542 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,280 a human who have been through the amount of trauma these three have, you want to 543 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,279 be careful. 544 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,420 But then again, Jennifer has to learn the lesson that just because you've been 545 00:33:37,420 --> 00:33:40,160 through something doesn't mean you have to stay there. 546 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,240 Pain is something that happens to all of us, but suffering, that's a choice. 547 00:33:44,580 --> 00:33:47,320 30 seconds to get that butt in there and the door is closed. Come on. 548 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,620 Six, five, four, three. 549 00:34:01,230 --> 00:34:03,490 Oh, and with two seconds to spare. 550 00:34:04,590 --> 00:34:05,590 Yay! 551 00:34:07,330 --> 00:34:08,730 You did it, man. 552 00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:13,130 You did it. That was fantastic. 553 00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:18,030 I feel like the cats are progressing great. Jennifer was the X factor, and 554 00:34:18,030 --> 00:34:21,429 I felt like she started coming into her own, and that was so important. 555 00:34:21,989 --> 00:34:25,170 Judging by what I'm watching in there, your cats are doing great. 556 00:34:25,409 --> 00:34:30,110 So we're going to pack up your house as if we are going to move you. 557 00:34:30,429 --> 00:34:33,230 Wow. Now, bring me your litter box. 558 00:34:34,770 --> 00:34:36,330 Okay. Don't ask why. 559 00:34:37,350 --> 00:34:38,350 Okay. 560 00:34:38,630 --> 00:34:40,750 We've been talking about traveling base camp. 561 00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:47,610 This is the essence of base camp. I'd like you to put the litter in the 562 00:34:47,610 --> 00:34:48,730 bag. Okay. 563 00:34:49,110 --> 00:34:53,449 I'm telling you, if you take that dirty litter, pack it up, and you put it in a 564 00:34:53,449 --> 00:34:56,870 new spot, your cat's going to walk up to it and they're going to be like, wait, 565 00:34:56,989 --> 00:34:58,150 what's that smell? 566 00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,900 Yeah, that's right. I live here. 567 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,980 Hey, baby, this is territorial gold right here. 568 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:09,380 Okay. It may not smell like gold, but it is. Now, next thing that I want are 569 00:35:09,380 --> 00:35:14,280 beds, blankets, any kind of furniture that is a scent soaker. If you want your 570 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,740 cats to be okay in new territories, bring all their good stuff into that 571 00:35:18,740 --> 00:35:22,720 before you bring them. Set up their litter box. Set up their dishes. Then 572 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:27,380 last thing that you do is bring your cats in. I also want their food dishes. 573 00:35:27,380 --> 00:35:28,420 want their water dish. 574 00:35:31,050 --> 00:35:32,150 To get some dirty laundry. 575 00:35:32,510 --> 00:35:35,970 Anything that has your scent all over it. I feel confident setting up my house 576 00:35:35,970 --> 00:35:39,350 when I get to Canada. I know what things I need to bring in so that the cats 577 00:35:39,350 --> 00:35:41,130 will feel like it's their space. 578 00:35:41,410 --> 00:35:42,410 Thank you so much. 579 00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:43,630 Bon voyage. 580 00:35:44,010 --> 00:35:47,070 I'm going to have Jennifer send me video updates when it's time to make the big 581 00:35:47,070 --> 00:35:48,830 move, but I know this is going to work. 582 00:35:49,180 --> 00:35:53,800 I know that Jackson and Ivy and Jennifer are going to get to Canada in one 583 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,300 piece. They'll all be sane at the end of it, and they're all going to feel safe 584 00:35:57,300 --> 00:36:00,700 when they get to their home. We'll talk to you very soon. Take care, okay? Thank 585 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:01,359 you, too. 586 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,360 All right, bye -bye. 587 00:36:10,180 --> 00:36:11,860 I'm trapped. 588 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,180 So I'm here for my final visit with Erin and Maddie and their cat, May. And the 589 00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:25,440 last time I was here, we had gotten past the easy part of the work. The hard 590 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,180 part was reintroducing May to the world so that she felt confident everywhere, 591 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,680 which I hope she does, because if she doesn't, everybody suffers, including 592 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,360 How are things going here? 593 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,320 Things have been going really well. 594 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,160 Yeah, there are definitely some good parts, followed by a few bad parts. 595 00:36:44,690 --> 00:36:49,750 Okay, so is it safe to say that the bad is the exception to the rule? Yes. 596 00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:54,490 Well, listen, let's get right into it. I want to take a look at what you guys 597 00:36:54,490 --> 00:36:59,270 have been up to. We moved Mae's bath mat out into the living room. 598 00:36:59,650 --> 00:37:00,650 Neutral space. 599 00:37:01,570 --> 00:37:03,650 Not ours nor hers. 600 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,980 I got home just now, and May May was sitting in the living room by herself on 601 00:37:09,980 --> 00:37:10,939 the blanket. 602 00:37:10,940 --> 00:37:14,500 And that's not anything that's ever happened, so that's kind of cool. 603 00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:15,618 That's fantastic. 604 00:37:15,620 --> 00:37:19,640 Since that day, has it been, has she done more of that? More frequent, yeah. 605 00:37:19,940 --> 00:37:21,280 Yeah? So this worked. 606 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,680 May's reintroduction to the world has been a resounding success. I mean, every 607 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,800 place that she avoided before, she's actually magnetized to now. This cat is 608 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,620 confidently owning territory. 609 00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:36,930 It's cat mojo, and Mae is demonstrating that in a huge way. 610 00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:40,730 Maddie and Erin have been doing really good work in expanding Mae's confidence, 611 00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:44,710 but I want to see how they're doing in overcoming their own PTSD, and as a 612 00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:48,810 result, treating Mae like a normal cat, because that's the only way she's ever 613 00:37:48,810 --> 00:37:49,810 going to act like one. 614 00:37:49,830 --> 00:37:55,770 Erin says that Mae tried to get her just now, so I want to see 615 00:37:55,770 --> 00:37:57,630 if she's going to. 616 00:38:01,030 --> 00:38:02,270 Don't be scared, Erin. 617 00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:08,320 You see now. You see how she's in the doorway, and Erin, I can see it. I can 618 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,220 you going ahead going, now what? Right? Because now she's sort of blocking the 619 00:38:12,220 --> 00:38:16,720 doorway. This is the area where Maddie and Erin can and will keep improving. 620 00:38:16,980 --> 00:38:21,540 Each time they walk by Mae with confidence and without fear, the 621 00:38:21,540 --> 00:38:23,460 will just become a little more repaired. 622 00:38:23,980 --> 00:38:25,420 So May is here. 623 00:38:25,740 --> 00:38:28,540 This is one of the spots that May enjoys grooming. 624 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,300 Can you try to distract her from doing that with the laser or some toys? 625 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,500 Because she's been here a few times. 626 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,080 Oh, good job. It works. 627 00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:46,860 There you go. I can designate this officially as a spot where Kitty likes 628 00:38:46,860 --> 00:38:52,040 grooming. Don't you want to play instead of grooming? 629 00:38:52,970 --> 00:38:53,970 Good kitty. 630 00:38:54,350 --> 00:39:01,290 Okay. Great stuff. I mean, to know that she's capable of a normal life makes 631 00:39:01,290 --> 00:39:04,490 me happy. And you guys are capable of a normal life. 632 00:39:04,810 --> 00:39:09,010 Amazing work. Through this process, we've learned from Mae that we just have 633 00:39:09,010 --> 00:39:13,630 give her the time and attention that she needs to become that cat that Maddie 634 00:39:13,630 --> 00:39:15,410 always knew was in there. 635 00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:16,910 Hi, Mae Mae. 636 00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:19,470 Wow. 637 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,040 I'm having a moment with your cat. 638 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:26,720 It's the truth. 639 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,680 I'm going to cry. 640 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,000 I'm going to cry. 641 00:39:30,260 --> 00:39:31,480 We have the truth. 642 00:39:32,060 --> 00:39:33,440 Such a good girl. 643 00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:37,640 I always want to make sure that a cat that I had a not so pleasant encounter 644 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:44,120 with still sees me as an ally. To have May walk up to me, headbutt my hand, my 645 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,200 legs, let me know that we're all good, it does mean something to me. 646 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,880 I mean, this is the truth that I've been looking for since the day I first met 647 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,040 me. Good girl. 648 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,820 Yay. What is it? What is it? What is it? Oh, my God, look at that belly. 649 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,500 Look at that belly. 650 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,580 She's so naked. 651 00:40:01,820 --> 00:40:02,820 It's okay. 652 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,500 Although I am seeing lots of new growth there. See the peach fuzz? Yeah, it's 653 00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:08,940 starting to get a little darker. 654 00:40:09,380 --> 00:40:12,120 Well, the peach fuzz is to say that she hasn't gone at it. 655 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,540 Redirecting the over -grooming is working. Otherwise, she'd be completely 656 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:22,840 When I first met Mae, she was trapped on a shelf lashing out within an inch of 657 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,200 her life and my life. And that cat is walking around here soliciting attention 658 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,040 and love from me today and rolling over on her back. It's a different cat, 659 00:40:30,180 --> 00:40:30,839 believe me. 660 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,940 No biting yourself, no biting humans. Anything else is fair game. 661 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,820 Mae Mae, stay positive, my love. Okay? 662 00:40:37,220 --> 00:40:38,220 Guys, I'm out. 663 00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:39,340 Thank you so much. 664 00:40:39,580 --> 00:40:42,740 Hang with your cat. I don't want to break this moment up for a second. 665 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,760 Thank you, Justin. Okay, guys. Thank you. 666 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,280 Bye. Bye. 667 00:40:51,009 --> 00:40:54,670 Truth is, do not get me sweeter than that. It's not just the fact that I'm 668 00:40:54,670 --> 00:40:57,830 bleeding. It's about May and the fact that she's not suffering anymore. 669 00:40:58,070 --> 00:41:00,610 And it's about Aaron and Maddie. They're not either. 670 00:41:01,070 --> 00:41:02,070 Today's a good day. 671 00:41:11,050 --> 00:41:14,630 Two weeks after I last met with Jennifer, she packed up her car for the 672 00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:16,870 to Canada with her two cats, Jackson and Ivy. 673 00:41:17,070 --> 00:41:19,630 And she's been sending me the video updates that I asked for. 674 00:41:20,070 --> 00:41:21,070 So, good news. 675 00:41:21,130 --> 00:41:22,430 Cats are in the carrier. 676 00:41:22,690 --> 00:41:23,690 They're ready to go. 677 00:41:23,970 --> 00:41:28,250 Jackson made a huge difference. Now I see that it is possible to work with my 678 00:41:28,250 --> 00:41:33,290 cat. And I know that if there's an emergency, I can evacuate them. 679 00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:35,090 These guys are doing really well. 680 00:41:38,490 --> 00:41:39,490 We are heading. 681 00:41:40,110 --> 00:41:41,170 Across the border. 682 00:41:41,870 --> 00:41:47,210 Vancouver. In a few minutes, we'll be arriving and unpacking the cat, setting 683 00:41:47,210 --> 00:41:48,210 base camp. 684 00:41:49,090 --> 00:41:53,170 I am in my home in Vancouver. 685 00:41:53,710 --> 00:41:55,070 There's Ivy in the litter box. 686 00:41:55,330 --> 00:41:59,790 Of course, in the two litter boxes, we have the... 687 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,400 Very valuable used litter. 688 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:09,000 It's their territory now. They have totally claimed it. I never in my 689 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,580 dreams could have hoped that this would go so well. 690 00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:12,900 It's amazing. 58920

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