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The problem with Charlie and Frankie is
that they don't get along.
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Hey. Yo.
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I haven't been in this house more than a
couple minutes and all of a sudden
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there's a fight going on. Oh, you've got
to be kidding me, Charlie.
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Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
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Baby Angel has a tendency to pee on rugs
and anything fabric related.
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She's peed so much in one area of our
house that the floor is starting to come
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up. Well, we would like to expand our
family and have a child, possibly foster
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an adult. Are you holding off even the
foster process?
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No pressure.
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When I was three, the doctor said that I
would never talk again because that's
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when I couldn't talk.
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Artemis started being social, so Sarah
started being social.
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Artemis really bridged that gap for her
and people because she had a talking
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point or a reason to interact. As soon
as Artemis got into this home, she just
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glommed down to Sarah. She said, you are
my person. And that was the start of a
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beautiful friendship.
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Whoa.
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Holy. I'm Jackson Galaxy.
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What the hell, man?
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The animal behavior that guardians call
when they're dealing with a difficult
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cat. Sometimes I wish that I didn't have
her.
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Man.
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I'm out to prove that there is no such
thing as a bad cat. Just a cat that
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my help. This is fun.
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I'm Andrew.
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And I'm Liz. And we have two cats,
Charlie and Frankie.
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I love the cats, but the problem with
Charlie and Frankie is that they don't
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along.
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Charlie and Frankie fight in the living
room.
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They fight upstairs in the bedrooms.
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Frankie is very confident and not scared
of much and probably scared of
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everything. Charlie is freaking out
before anything's even happening.
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Charlie enters every room like there's
going to be an altercation.
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I would say Frankie and Charlie's
behavior affects our relationship in
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sets the tone right off the bat. Liz
comes home from a long day at work. The
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cats are excited to see her. They start
fighting. I don't even get a word in.
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Suddenly they've got to be broken up,
and then Liz is frustrated. I am
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frustrated. I am. I'm tired of the cats
fighting.
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I'm tired of Andrew being grumpy all the
time. I'm tired of, like, walking into
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my house and having everybody just,
like, all worked up.
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I love Andrew very much, but the cat
fighting is one of the biggest things
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we argue about in our relationship, and
if we can sort that out, I think our
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relationship will be a lot stronger.
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How are you doing?
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I'm good. How are you? Hey, nice to meet
you.
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Who's this that I'm seeing? That's
Frankie. That's Frankie. So you have an
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orange tabby girl.
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Orange tabby females is pretty rare, and
I would never generalize, but orange
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tabbies have that thing.
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They're gregarious. They're kind of
Dennis the Menace -y, you know. Does she
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sort of fall into that category? Yeah, I
wish I knew that when we adopted her.
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She's a sweetheart.
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She's really sweet.
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Frankie is incredibly social, tail up in
the air. I don't see anything about her
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off the bat that leads me to believe
that she would be an all -out bully 24
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But hey, I've been wrong plenty of
times.
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We brought Frankie home. We tried to
introduce them. They didn't get along.
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We then separated them and had them on a
shift schedule of which one would be
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out and about in the house for a 12
-hour shift. One would go away at night
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one would come out during the day.
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Hey!
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Yo. Coming in.
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Well, I haven't been in this house more
than a couple minutes, and all of a
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sudden, there's a fight going on.
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Now, let's talk about that.
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So, is that kind of how it tends to
happen?
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That Frankie will start it?
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No.
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We disagree.
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In two seconds of being in your house,
Frankie goes up the stairs, and all of a
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sudden, you hear, ah!
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You know, I look up here and Charlie is
looking at me like I'm going to eat her.
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She thinks everyone's going to eat her.
Well, then how could she possibly start
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it? Because she's so stressed out all
the time, but she antagonizes before she
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can be antagonized.
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First time we've seen that. She was
actually the first cat to start an
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altercation.
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Really? Yeah.
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Frankie, like, walked up to Charlie,
kind of, like, sniffed her, and then
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Charlie swatted her across the face with
her nails out. Okay, so that's not
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calling instigating. What does that
call?
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Back the hell away from me. Liz
misinterprets what went on that first
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Frankie went to Charlie, got a little
too in the personal bubble space, and
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Charlie said, back off.
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That Charlie thing, get out of my
bubble.
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And Frankie refused. I haven't fully
relaxed since we adopted Frankie because
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all she wants to do is have a brother. I
haven't relaxed since the day it was
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born. It's very, very tightly wound.
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You know you are. I just want to make
the relationship work.
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It's honest communication.
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Until death do us part. Until death do
you part.
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So far, Andrew and Liz don't agree about
anything.
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I mean, it's an endearing part of their
relationship, but it doesn't get us
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anywhere. I've got to get to the truth,
and the truth has got to be somewhere
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between the two of them.
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Charlie.
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Hi, baby.
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Now, this is interesting.
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Now, Frankie is 100 % hunting Charlie.
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Yeah. Is this what it looks like all the
time? Yeah.
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It's worse in the morning. How the hell
could you possibly blame Charlie for
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anything? Because she started it. She
started it one time.
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Mama, you're all right. You're okay.
Look. Look.
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I mean, please.
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Charlie is trapped.
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Like, I know what's going on here, so
it's so weird to hear you describe
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something completely opposite. I don't
think that Andrew and Liz have the
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slightest idea why things are happening
in this house.
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They have completely misunderstood
Charlie and underestimated Frankie.
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They don't know their cats nearly as
well as they think they do.
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I mean, this just feels like a matter of
time.
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Yeah, well, Charlie's right there, and
Frankie's getting ready to run. Oh, look
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at us.
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And here we go.
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Hold on.
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Does he ever not hunt?
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No. When she's sleeping.
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Yeah, what's with that? Or she's playing
or she's eating.
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So she doesn't hunt when she's eating?
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No. Can they eat together? Oh, yeah,
face to face. Get out of here. Now that
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got to see.
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Here we go.
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Charlie's a -coming.
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It's okay.
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How do you like that?
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So these two can eat like this all the
time? Yeah. Every day. Every day. Every
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day. Yeah. Now, right now, Charlie is
looking up. Or does she always eat like
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that? She kind of does. She will check
in on Frankie to see what she's doing.
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And Frankie is just so consumed by it.
With her food, Frankie doesn't look up.
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got to tell you, man, although I do
identify that things are problematic
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they're workable. I'm getting a lot of
information from the cats right now.
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It's time to push them a little bit. I
want to see if I can tempt them, get
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involved with toys, treats, to see what
really motivates these cats.
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Good girl.
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Yay, that's very good. What Frankie is
telling me is that she's like a kid.
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She'll go wherever the fun is. My toy
presents fun. And there you are, my
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Now it's time to see if I can get
Charlie to come out while Frankie's
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somewhat intimidating -looking action.
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Because I want to see if Charlie has
what it takes to stand up for herself.
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Come on, Charlie.
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Oh, boy.
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You're a little mojo deficient.
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Come here, baby.
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Come here, honey.
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Charlie's face is starting to come out
from under the chair. She's starting to
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get brave, but Frankie is staring at her
the whole time. If a fight breaks out
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with this much challenge presented to
them, we're in a bad place.
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Don't cause a scene.
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Come here, honey.
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Charlie's face is starting to come out
from under the chair, but Frankie is
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staring at her the whole time. If a
fight breaks out with this much
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presented to them, we're in a bad place.
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Don't cause a scene, honey.
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Right there.
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This is a cat who wants to engage, who
wants to play, but she keeps looking
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here.
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Charlie could be just as social, just as
present.
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As Frankie. But she's not allowed to be
that cat because she's always looking
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for an exit.
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Frankie. So we've got a little tube -o
-tuna here.
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Charlie is on guard.
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Hey, hey, hey. Right here.
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Look at that.
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I can instantly redirect Frankie's
aggression.
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I can do it with a treat. I can do it
with a toy. That's fantastic news
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that tells me that for Frankie, this is
not life and death state. Frankie was
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totally able between this and this to be
distracted away from Charlie.
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Is that what you guys see on a regular
basis?
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He can easily distract her. Yay.
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If I could clap right now, I would.
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We are going to forge a new relationship
between these two cats and hopefully a
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new relationship between the humans here
as well because this isn't working.
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Charlie's not having a good time. You
know, Frankie's fine. Frankie is
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resilient. Frankie is confident.
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Charlie's got none of that. And that's
where things have to change around here.
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Now the first thing we're going to talk
about is X marks the spot.
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We're going to have three different
colors of tape here. So we have the
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of tape, which is for confident areas
where she likes to hang out. The yellow
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piece of tape is for hiding, the
unconfident path, where we're slinking
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where we're feeling very unconfident.
And the red piece of tape is for hunt or
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where fights happen, okay?
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By having all these green X's around the
house, it'll help me find a pattern of
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behavior. Now, playtime.
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I want you to separate them for
playtime. The idea is this. Charlie will
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confidence through play. When Charlie
gets to kill something, that's where
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get their confidence. That is where
their mojo comes from, when they're
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their natural life.
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And then for Frankie, the cool thing is
that play drains out.
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that energy that she then will use on
Charlie. Separate play times set the
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for together play times, or for that
matter, together anything.
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We're going to take their energy and put
it in the right lane here so that life
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itself can take root. And hopefully
Frankie can stop looking at Charlie as a
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play toy.
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Call me if you need anything.
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Bye. Bye -bye.
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My only apprehension is that Liz
underestimates my abilities to follow
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directions.
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My name is Jacqueline. I'm Devon, and
we've been married for a year and a
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And we are the Crazy Cat Ladies with
ACAT.
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It's Baby Angel, China, Blue, Red,
Blackie, Bo, Bear, and Toby.
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Was that it?
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I hope so.
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We are happily married newlyweds.
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We have this wonderful new home together
and a wonderful life together and a
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wonderful fur family together.
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And Baby Angel is definitely disrupting
that.
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She has a tendency to pee on rugs and
anything fabric related.
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She has peed on our brand new couch. We
literally just got this couch.
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It's tiresome to wake up in the morning
and clean up pee, to come home from work
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and clean up pee, like to constantly be
cleaning up pee. It's a lot. You're
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okay. I love baby Angel, but I don't
think she likes me very much.
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Jacqueline is the only human that baby
Angel has a relationship with. She's not
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very trusting.
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always glaring at me or giving me nasty
looks. We have been talking about
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fostering a child, but we need to get
our house in order first, and one of the
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things on that list is fixing this
problem.
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We need Jackson's help and fast.
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How are you? Hi.
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I'm Jacqueline. I'm Jacqueline. Hey,
Jacqueline. I'm Devin. Devin, good to
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you guys. Welcome to our home. Who's
this?
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That's Toby.
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Hi, Toby.
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Who's this? Blackie.
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Blackie, of course.
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And that's Baby Angel on top.
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How many cats?
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Eight. Eight cats.
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Okay. So I'm here because of Baby
Angel's pee.
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Where is she peeing?
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Right in front of the litter box on a
potty pad. Every day? Mm -hmm.
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And then we have a day where she'll hit
it twice.
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Now I'm immediately hearing that Baby
Angel's peeing right outside the box.
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me, that's a red flag.
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There's something about that box that is
not safe.
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Is that pain, discomfort, the other cats
in the house? I'm going to find out.
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Has she had this problem her whole life?
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No. Where I previously lived was much
bigger. She never peed anywhere.
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But then when I moved in here, Baby
Angel started to pee everywhere. But
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It has the tendency to pee right in
front of the litter box on a potty pad.
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Every day.
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When you go from a bigger space to a
smaller space, stuff shakes out
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Any other theories?
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I met Baby Angel when we became
roommates, and there was a lot of stress
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change for all the cats.
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So I always feel like she's punishing us
because she does give me dirty looks.
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Maybe she just doesn't like that I'm too
close to her mom. She gives you dirty
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looks. She's trying to punish you.
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Her and I have a bond. So baby Angel,
when I first saw her as a kitten, she
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the hardest one to tame. She was not
trusting and very, like... Could you
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You couldn't touch her? No. It took a
while. I would play with her with the
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toys, and I would give her treats.
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So we kind of connected. She trusted me.
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So it's safe to say that you represent
safety. You represent that one human
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breakthrough. But now she's six years
old. Are you saying that in those six
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years, she's never...
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trusted anyone to the degree she
trusted. Correct.
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Jacqueline was tasked with acting as
Baby Angel's social bridge, and that
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relationship continues to flourish
through today.
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We would like to expand our family and
have a child, possibly foster and adopt.
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Okay, cool. So that would require us not
to have Baby Angel urinating on certain
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areas of the house. That's a valid
concern. Are you holding off even the
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process? Really? Until this gets...
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Okay, no pressure.
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Are you holding off even the foster
process?
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Really, until this gets... Okay, no
pressure.
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So these guys are putting off fostering
or adopting a human child because...
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of the problem that's going on here and
I think it's a smart thing to do because
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all you gotta do is bring one more being
in this house and things may go kaboom.
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Hello, baby angel.
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Hi, sweet baby.
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It's okay.
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When Jacqueline took in baby angel and
she spent all of this time with her
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getting her to open up, getting her to
accept humans, but she stopped with her.
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Baby angel, six years old, doesn't trust
a single other human besides
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Jacqueline. What I would love to do...
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Start walking around and let me know
about places of importance.
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I want to see resources.
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I want to see what Angel could possibly
be competing over.
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Okay, so this is a big spot here. Yeah,
it's one of her favorites. She pees like
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here or here.
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This is ruining our floors. So this is
like raised now.
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Okay.
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Why haven't you put a litter box here?
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Seriously? You never thought of that?
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Or you just don't want to.
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Yeah, I don't want to.
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I've been down this block before. You've
got enough pee on this wooden floor to
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lift up the floor, and you didn't think
once maybe we should have a box? Of
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course you did. Come on now.
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Where's the litter boxes at? Two litter
boxes and one in the office.
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Now, eight cats and three litter boxes.
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Which one?
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of you guys is much more specific about
boxes being in certain places and...
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It'd be me. Okay. We don't have any cat
to pick on other cats, right?
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Nobody who... Angel's the only one that
literally is, like, yesterday.
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Will she block these? Yeah, Bear was in
the potty, not doing anything to her,
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and she was actually right here growling
at him. I mean, that's a problem
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because we're in a closet. I know. So
that means that there's no out.
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If someone's in there, that they can be
cornered pretty easily. A litter box in
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a closet, another litter box right
outside the closet. So that creates this
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bottleneck that Baby Angel just sits in
front of and starts hissing at the other
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cats. There's a lot of information that
is kind of fuzzy right now. So I think a
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lot of your homework is going to be
based on defuzzing what's happening
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The first thing it could possibly be is
medical. So that's the first thing we've
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got to do is go to the vet. In my
experience.
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When cats go right outside the litter
box, they're letting you know there's
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something in there I don't like. Meaning
she's not going to say it hurts when I
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pee. She's going to say that place hurts
me. My guess is this.
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It hurts when she pees. So whether
that's a bladder infection, urinary
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whether she's got stones, it could be a
lot of things.
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That's why we're sending her to the vet.
The second thing it could be is litter
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box aversion.
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So in that respect, you know what your
homework is. You know what's coming.
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Tell me. More litter boxes?
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Yeah. Your time's up.
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You know.
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Three litter boxes for eight cats is
just not enough.
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I want to see three more added to the
house. All of these things come into
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to provide more resources spread out
that might be comfortable to a cat who's
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avoiding the box.
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The boxes should be low, no lids,
because if it happens to be competition
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resources, there could be ambushing
going on.
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A lidded litter box often poses a
problem because it only presents one
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route. So if baby Angel ever felt
threatened by another cat while using a
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with a lid, she may be too scared to go
back there again.
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The next piece of homework is to allow
the bond.
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Devin, clearly you're carrying a little
bit of trauma.
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Whether it's you saying that she got it
out for you, she doesn't like you, she's
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jealous. I have heard all of those today
and more. They're all projections.
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None of it's true.
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Jacqueline, this is your person here. So
I need you to start allowing that bond
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in terms of allowing Devin to take on
the rituals that define that
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safety. So whether that's feeding,
whether that's the touching, whatever
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rituals are that you have.
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Let Devin into the club, okay?
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I know it's going to be difficult for
Baby Angel to learn to trust someone
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besides Jackie, but it needs to be done,
and I'm willing to put the work in, and
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I hope that we can come to a place where
we can be friends and I can be in the
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secret club.
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They've been so annoying.
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So I'm back in the city of brotherly
love with two sisters, Frankie and
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who have been at each other's throats.
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Hopefully, I'm going to walk in here and
Charlie will have regained the shred of
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confidence that she had before Frankie
beat it out of her.
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Tell me how things have been.
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Combative. Yeah, a little bit.
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From a two -legged perspective or a
four? You never know with you guys. From
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four -legged perspective, actually, it's
been a little better. We've committed
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to all elements of the homework.
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It's funny because I sat down here and
I'm like, oh, how are things? And then I
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noticed. This.
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Oh, you are out of red tape. Oh, yeah,
we ran out.
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The last thing that I wanted to come and
see here was an empty red spool of
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tape. The red tape is for a fight. That
means problems for Charlie.
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And on cue, we have both cats in the
room at the same time.
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Charlie. Oh,
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you've got to be kidding me, Charlie.
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Frank. Hold on.
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In this moment.
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Hold on.
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Hold on.
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Frank. Hold on.
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In this moment.
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Hold on. Hold on.
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In this moment.
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What is this?
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What is that? Stay with me now. Is this
what we've been seeing? Every day.
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But this is what I like, though. Charlie
is present.
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Charlie didn't go dashing upstairs and
there was a fight at the door. That was
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lot of noise.
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But with a little bit of distraction and
redirection, there was no contact
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whatsoever. And the great news here,
Charlie comes right back into the
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She runs away and then she's like, you
know what? No.
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This is my room too. What I'd like to do
is take a look at your video homework.
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Let's get that out of here.
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Bring it in. So much energy. I think she
tires out after maybe 45 minutes to an
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hour. I wish I had that kind of stamina.
I don't. The only thing I do 45 minutes
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to an hour is sit.
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Number one, you're absolutely not
playing as hard as you need to. Number
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you're not playing smart either. If
you're playing smart and hard with your
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20 minutes max. Even a cat like Frankie.
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So, we have a whole bunch of X's for
Hunt or Where Fights Happen.
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What patterns do you think? Charlie
likes to be up.
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Charlie likes the perimeter. We realize
she hides around the edges, which
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Frankie enjoys being in the middle of
things. And she is willing to defend
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and only permits Charlie just on the
outside of the room.
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Okay. The middle of the room is the
promised land.
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Everything has to happen here for
Charlie, and if it doesn't, she's going
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always be reminded that there's safety
in the walls.
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No more. We have one big hang spot for
Charlie right here.
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And again, there are no hang spots that
I can tell that are on the floor.
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She hides on the floor, but she doesn't
hang out. Hides on the floor, hangs in
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the air.
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That's exactly, that's a breakthrough
for us. What I thought was initially a
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hide spot really is a confidence spot
for Charlie, and that involves height.
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was refreshing to see Jackson's take on
it because it just really brought to the
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surface that Charlie really doesn't like
hiding.
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She likes hanging out above everything,
above the swinging paws of Frankie.
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We've got...
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An amazing bit of information.
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The evidence is overwhelming in this
house. Now I need to hang out with
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to get that missing piece of the puzzle.
We just keep pushing her a little bit.
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So what I want is for her to come in
here. Liz, can you use your voice again,
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please? Charlie.
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Charlie girl, come here, Mama.
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Hi, Charlie.
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There she comes. There she comes. Come
here, baby.
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There she is.
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There's my baby girl.
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With Frankie put away, Charlie sees
that. She sees me not as a threat. She
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this as a normal environment where she
can come out and hang. Being herself a
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little bit, being confident, that's all
I want. Good girl. And up on the table.
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Good girlie.
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The play therapy homework has really
improved her confidence.
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This should be a cause of celebration,
not just for me, but for Liz and Andrew.
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So now homework, Andrew.
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It is essential that we wear Frankie out
during play.
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So I want to teach you the play
technique called boil and simmer. Now,
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obviously, with Frankie, it's a piece of
cake. You got her running around, get
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her crazy, let her simmer. Bring her
back up about two, three minutes later,
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her simmer. That whole process should be
20 minutes. I can get behind that. And
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that'll also work for Charlie as well.
We need to fortify her confidence.
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So for her, playtime has to always
culminate.
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in the middle of the room. We're
basically going to just outlaw the
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Play happens in the middle of the room.
We're building confidence by making this
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the promised land. I'd like you to get a
special pet gate where they can see
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each other but not get to one another.
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And that way, when we're going to time
out Frankie, Charlie owns the whole
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and she gets to see Frankie in a way
that's not chasing her.
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Also, in terms of fortifying confidence,
is catifying for confidence.
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We know all of the hang spots are up.
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All of the hide spots are down.
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Got to encourage her up. We're going to
work on cat superhighways.
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Charlie is a bigger cat when she's up in
the vertical world. So Charlie's got to
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have a brand -new world, and it's got to
be up off the ground. We're going to
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make sure that we're blocking under so
we can say, no, Charlie, you don't want
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to live against the walls and under the
stairs. You want to live up on your
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purchase, but we've got to make those
purchase destinations or it's never
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to work. The other thing that I want you
to do...
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I want you to pick up all of the X's and
I want you to start again. Because
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you're going to see all the places that
you've got to sort of fortify as you go
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along in order to get us to that
promised land of group play.
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Okay? Keep it up.
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It's a lot of work to follow the
homework and do everything we can to
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Charlie's confidence.
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It's up to me and Andrew to help Charlie
get where he needs to be. We're going
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to try really hard, but I'm not a
thousand percent sure that...
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She's going to do it? We're going to
find out. Yeah.
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Baby angel, eat on her.
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I'm back for my next visit with Devin
and Jacqueline and their cat baby angel.
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Last time I was here, Baby Angel was
struggling to carve out a spot among
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other cats to call her own, and because
of that, the place was turning into a
454
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:43,420
litter box. Now, before these guys could
bring in a human baby, they have got to
455
00:26:43,420 --> 00:26:45,420
work out this problem, so I really hope
they did.
456
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,040
Look at this.
457
00:26:48,380 --> 00:26:49,380
Hi, honey.
458
00:26:49,820 --> 00:26:50,820
Aw, hi.
459
00:26:52,140 --> 00:26:55,800
Honestly, the last time I was here, Baby
Angel was crammed into a corner under
460
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,980
the window. Now she's on the couch,
sitting right next to Devin while she
461
00:26:59,980 --> 00:27:03,850
her. That means work got done around
here. We've been working really hard.
462
00:27:03,850 --> 00:27:08,250
have clearly been working really hard.
But she has to do it in her own way. So
463
00:27:08,250 --> 00:27:11,970
before we get into any of that, let's
start looking at your video homework.
464
00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:13,450
Angel.
465
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:15,630
Look what we've got.
466
00:27:16,430 --> 00:27:20,070
She's going to get her blood work done
and also a urine test.
467
00:27:20,570 --> 00:27:21,650
Make sure she's fine.
468
00:27:21,950 --> 00:27:25,070
So the blood work and everything, you
said everything was pending.
469
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,480
Where are we at with that? So she has
the start of crystals. So what that
470
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,240
is she doesn't drink enough water.
471
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,940
Yep. For baby Angel having crystals in
her bladder, well, those crystals have
472
00:27:35,940 --> 00:27:39,620
go somewhere. And if she pees them out,
they're going to hurt. And that could be
473
00:27:39,620 --> 00:27:40,660
why she's been avoiding the box.
474
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,900
Wet food will help keep pumping those
fluids through baby Angel to keep her
475
00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:48,060
bladder and her kidneys healthy. I mean,
I think bottom line, we got a lab
476
00:27:48,060 --> 00:27:52,760
result back that explains why she's
going right outside that litter box. It
477
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:55,380
It's starting to become painful, so it's
great that we caught that.
478
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,660
I get to deliver all things good, which
right now is food.
479
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:00,079
Hi, Mama.
480
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,100
Do you want some food?
481
00:28:01,620 --> 00:28:02,620
Mmm.
482
00:28:03,180 --> 00:28:04,180
There you go.
483
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,440
Breakfast in bed.
484
00:28:06,820 --> 00:28:09,080
Dinner. Breakfast in bed, man.
485
00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:12,100
Can I pet you from over here? Can I pet
you?
486
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,320
There you go.
487
00:28:15,020 --> 00:28:16,320
Aw. Yeah.
488
00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:19,960
Look at her right now. That is a big
change for this cat.
489
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,860
That has to, I mean, for you, because
there was that whole thing about sort of
490
00:28:24,860 --> 00:28:26,500
you had this special relationship with
her.
491
00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:28,140
Is it a good feeling?
492
00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:29,299
It's a great feeling.
493
00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:32,080
To watch this? Yeah, because I want her
to feel secure and safe.
494
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,280
And I told them I want to show you guys
off.
495
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,080
It is symbolic in a way.
496
00:28:37,690 --> 00:28:41,650
making a family, making a home, you
know? I think Jacqueline did a great
497
00:28:41,770 --> 00:28:45,710
It's really hard to release a special
relationship that you have with
498
00:28:45,890 --> 00:28:50,310
and she did that for the sake of
unifying her family. And she was also a
499
00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:57,170
good coach. More litter boxes. So this
is the same area where baby Angel has
500
00:28:57,170 --> 00:28:58,690
been peeing in the past.
501
00:29:00,230 --> 00:29:01,230
There we go.
502
00:29:02,430 --> 00:29:04,710
Yay, Angel. There it is.
503
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:10,020
Right in there. So we're putting new box
number two out. Pretty clear so nobody
504
00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:11,020
can be trapped.
505
00:29:11,380 --> 00:29:14,420
Good. There's still a lid on top.
506
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,320
Uh -oh.
507
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,920
Caught her in the act. In the act. Is
she still continuing to pee outside the
508
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,920
box every day?
509
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,120
Yes.
510
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,700
So that's a problem.
511
00:29:36,590 --> 00:29:38,530
More litter books. Homework number two.
512
00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:41,150
There's still a lid on top.
513
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:44,110
Uh -oh.
514
00:29:46,370 --> 00:29:48,410
Caught her in the act. In the act.
515
00:29:48,650 --> 00:29:52,250
Is she still continuing to pee outside
the box every day?
516
00:29:52,930 --> 00:29:53,930
Yes.
517
00:29:55,310 --> 00:29:56,490
So, that's a problem.
518
00:29:56,910 --> 00:30:01,590
Well, there have been a couple days she
did not. The only place she's peeing is
519
00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:03,270
on that one potty pad in the office.
520
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:06,070
So, that is still...
521
00:30:06,270 --> 00:30:09,830
From what I can tell, the only box with
a lid on it in the house. We still got a
522
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:13,510
problem here, but we have a problem
because somebody didn't listen to their
523
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:17,210
homework. That lid was supposed to come
off, and I bet you when it does, we're
524
00:30:17,210 --> 00:30:18,210
not going to have a problem.
525
00:30:18,270 --> 00:30:22,550
So since I left, she literally was
peeing everywhere.
526
00:30:23,550 --> 00:30:28,590
At this point, we're down to that pad
outside the box? Hell yeah.
527
00:30:28,850 --> 00:30:29,850
Yeah.
528
00:30:30,370 --> 00:30:31,850
Just take a second here.
529
00:30:32,380 --> 00:30:36,800
Almost everything that we were hoping
for in terms of the things that were
530
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,920
really affecting her were right on. I
couldn't be more impressed with
531
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,780
and Devin. I mean, it shows that they
were very serious about solving the
532
00:30:44,780 --> 00:30:48,480
problem. But there's still some things
about this place that are bothering me.
533
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:51,580
And I just want to walk around, see if I
can tweak what the couple has done
534
00:30:51,580 --> 00:30:57,820
here. So now, last time I was here, this
was that sort of traffic jammy area.
535
00:30:58,180 --> 00:31:01,500
It still is. I would really encourage
you guys.
536
00:31:01,820 --> 00:31:03,200
to continue to spread.
537
00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:07,880
This, to me, is sort of a territorial
bottleneck. Now, Baby Angel is doing
538
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,760
fantastic. She's not picking fights with
the other cats, but with a bottleneck
539
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,120
like this, you're asking for it down the
line. I want to make sure that I'm
540
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,440
setting these guys up for success in the
future. We're still seeing pee happen
541
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,700
here every other day, something like
that.
542
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:28,420
We were seeing pee twice a day, every
day. Yeah. Okay, so we are 100 % getting
543
00:31:28,420 --> 00:31:29,420
somewhere.
544
00:31:29,690 --> 00:31:33,910
But I want you to stop thinking about
human convenience here because for your
545
00:31:33,910 --> 00:31:34,910
cat, there's no out.
546
00:31:35,210 --> 00:31:37,930
If any cat's in there, they can be
cornered pretty easily.
547
00:31:39,650 --> 00:31:41,870
I'll leave with this. This is coming
with me.
548
00:31:42,430 --> 00:31:47,610
It's like collecting trophies. The most
important thing I can say about that lid
549
00:31:47,610 --> 00:31:50,070
is the cat is still peeing there.
550
00:31:50,490 --> 00:31:54,710
So try everything, whether it's getting
rid of the lid, getting rid of the pee
551
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:59,590
pads next to the box. There's one place
left that she's peeing. It's now just a
552
00:31:59,590 --> 00:32:00,610
matter of deductive reasoning.
553
00:32:00,950 --> 00:32:06,790
So I feel like you guys have
accomplished a tremendous amount. I got
554
00:32:06,790 --> 00:32:11,650
worked for this. You guys put together a
home with a family, and it works
555
00:32:11,650 --> 00:32:13,510
really, really well.
556
00:32:13,790 --> 00:32:14,990
We're a pretty good team. Yeah.
557
00:32:15,450 --> 00:32:17,150
Now maybe the two -legged family.
558
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:23,240
I mean, that is, after all, why I came
here. On top of all this, you guys
559
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,420
were wanting to get into fostering and
possibly adopting a child.
560
00:32:28,420 --> 00:32:32,700
How do you feel about moving forward
with that? I think we're now to that
561
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:33,700
where we can start.
562
00:32:34,140 --> 00:32:35,039
Thinking about that.
563
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,180
I mean, listen, if you can make room for
eight cats in this house and have
564
00:32:38,180 --> 00:32:42,320
peace, adding a child to it, hey,
listen, I hope it goes well for you
565
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,000
But I think it will. I mean, this is a
wonderful home. You guys have a great
566
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,480
family. All of Jackson's support and
help with Baby Angel has given us
567
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,240
confidence. We can face challenges
together.
568
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:58,280
Moving forward through fostering or
adopting a child, we can really build a
569
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,460
peaceful and loving household.
570
00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:12,080
I'm in Clarksville, Tennessee to meet up
with Robert and Maggie, their daughter
571
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,580
Sarah, and their space cat, Artemis.
Now, Artemis has been a best friend to
572
00:33:16,580 --> 00:33:20,380
Sarah since they adopted her, but she's
also helped Sarah in ways that have
573
00:33:20,380 --> 00:33:21,920
surprised just about everyone.
574
00:33:22,140 --> 00:33:25,560
Of course, for me, it's just another day
at the office with a heavenly cat.
575
00:33:27,060 --> 00:33:27,959
Well, hey.
576
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,240
Hi. You must be Sarah.
577
00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:32,060
Good to meet you, Sarah. How are you?
Good.
578
00:33:32,620 --> 00:33:35,540
Good. Hey, man, how are you? Doing
wonderful. Jackson. Hi.
579
00:33:35,790 --> 00:33:39,010
Hey, and you have to be Maggie, wouldn't
you? I'm Maggie, and this is my
580
00:33:39,010 --> 00:33:42,650
daughter, Sarah, and her best friend,
Artemis. Hi, Artemis.
581
00:33:43,030 --> 00:33:46,090
Hi. What a gorgeous girl she is.
582
00:33:46,490 --> 00:33:48,710
We adopted Artemis in 2014.
583
00:33:49,130 --> 00:33:51,950
She came from a hoarding situation that
happened here locally.
584
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:56,610
There was about 30 cats that was going
to be delivered to the animal shelter.
585
00:33:56,690 --> 00:33:58,210
There were a lot that didn't survive.
586
00:33:58,530 --> 00:34:02,310
They were adopted out. Oh, really bad,
bad. Yeah. Because nobody took care of
587
00:34:02,310 --> 00:34:04,310
them. Yeah. She had never been held.
588
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:05,799
Oh, really?
589
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:11,380
Or she hasn't touched a step out of her
cage ever in her life. Are you kidding
590
00:34:11,380 --> 00:34:13,880
me? She was in a cage her whole life?
591
00:34:14,540 --> 00:34:16,440
That is the saddest thing ever.
592
00:34:16,659 --> 00:34:20,840
So then when you brought her home, was
she scared when she first got here? She
593
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,040
was. She snuggled right up to Sarah,
though. That was her comfort.
594
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:28,880
The really sad thing is that she spent
her first six months of life never
595
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,380
stepping foot out of a cage.
596
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,830
As soon as Artemis... We got into this
home. She just glommed on to Sarah. She
597
00:34:34,830 --> 00:34:38,170
said, you are my person. And that was
the start of a beautiful friendship.
598
00:34:38,510 --> 00:34:42,150
When we got Artemis, Sarah could say
maybe five or six words.
599
00:34:42,429 --> 00:34:46,210
The doctor said that I would never talk
again because that's when I couldn't
600
00:34:46,210 --> 00:34:50,190
talk. Yeah, the doctor just said she
would probably always be a late bloomer.
601
00:34:50,469 --> 00:34:52,330
She made me have voice.
602
00:34:53,310 --> 00:34:54,989
She gave Sarah her voice.
603
00:34:55,330 --> 00:34:56,830
I love Artemis.
604
00:34:57,810 --> 00:34:59,510
And I'm going to vet school.
605
00:35:00,230 --> 00:35:01,230
Are you really?
606
00:35:01,870 --> 00:35:06,410
Now, you know how happy that makes me?
We need people like you to be vets for
607
00:35:06,410 --> 00:35:10,530
sure. We explain that to go to
veterinary school, you have to be able
608
00:35:10,830 --> 00:35:15,570
So we tell Sarah that she has to read to
Artemis so she can go to vet school
609
00:35:15,570 --> 00:35:17,690
someday. And Sarah took it very
seriously.
610
00:35:18,010 --> 00:35:22,190
According to Maggie and Robert, there's
no way that Sarah would have caught up,
611
00:35:22,190 --> 00:35:26,290
that she would have had the desire to
learn or to become more verbal. She just
612
00:35:26,290 --> 00:35:27,610
didn't have that connection with other
kids.
613
00:35:27,930 --> 00:35:31,050
But because she had that connection with
Artemis, she came around.
614
00:35:31,550 --> 00:35:34,250
Sarah is now reading in a way that she
just couldn't before.
615
00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:35,950
You mind if we do a little bit of
reading?
616
00:35:36,830 --> 00:35:40,510
Artemis meets this little girl
immediately. She's like, I have a
617
00:35:40,750 --> 00:35:41,750
Pretty amazing.
618
00:35:41,810 --> 00:35:46,930
I don't think anybody could have seen
the change that Artemis had with Sarah.
619
00:35:47,150 --> 00:35:50,010
That's not something that I've even read
about.
620
00:35:50,510 --> 00:35:56,070
There are days I come home from work and
I will see Sarah plop down reading to
621
00:35:56,070 --> 00:36:00,530
Artemis. Seeing her do that, it renders
me speechless.
622
00:36:01,330 --> 00:36:08,110
The way
623
00:36:08,110 --> 00:36:12,650
that she's motivated her and changed
things around, I think it was just that
624
00:36:12,650 --> 00:36:13,650
missing piece.
625
00:36:17,530 --> 00:36:21,550
Artemis has brought Sarah a purpose
because she's got something to bring to
626
00:36:21,550 --> 00:36:22,990
animals. She's going to help cure.
627
00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:24,950
She's going to help keep cats alive.
628
00:36:25,610 --> 00:36:27,150
Thank you so much for letting me in.
629
00:36:27,730 --> 00:36:28,709
All right.
630
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:29,770
Bye. Bye.
631
00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:35,810
I am just walking on air right about
now. I mean, Sarah and Artemis, both
632
00:36:35,810 --> 00:36:39,310
significant challenges in their life
early on, meet each other and find the
633
00:36:39,310 --> 00:36:43,450
courage to rise above those challenges.
And no matter how many times I see this,
634
00:36:43,450 --> 00:36:47,930
it never gets old. Children and animals
forge a bond that is so deep, us
635
00:36:47,930 --> 00:36:49,350
grownups will never get it.
636
00:36:53,350 --> 00:36:54,690
They've been so...
637
00:36:56,030 --> 00:36:57,030
Annoying.
638
00:37:03,970 --> 00:37:07,830
I'm back for my third visit with Andrew
and Liz and their cats, Frankie and
639
00:37:07,830 --> 00:37:12,250
Charlie. And last time I was here,
Frankie was still completely torturing
640
00:37:12,250 --> 00:37:13,250
Charlie.
641
00:37:13,850 --> 00:37:19,830
Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm hoping
that their homework helped fortify what
642
00:37:19,830 --> 00:37:23,510
confidence Charlie had to begin with so
that she could live the life that she
643
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:24,510
really deserves.
644
00:37:24,730 --> 00:37:25,730
How's life?
645
00:37:28,090 --> 00:37:32,110
Better. But there are a few red X's by
the stairwell.
646
00:37:32,690 --> 00:37:33,690
That's a problem.
647
00:37:37,710 --> 00:37:42,310
How's life?
648
00:37:45,090 --> 00:37:49,150
Better. But there are a few red X's by
the stairwell. Two or three. Oh, one,
649
00:37:49,290 --> 00:37:51,450
two, three. But there are more green
X's.
650
00:37:51,710 --> 00:37:52,569
than ever before.
651
00:37:52,570 --> 00:37:56,050
The green tape is for where they hang,
and that's to say where's the confident
652
00:37:56,050 --> 00:38:00,330
where, especially for Charlie. The last
time I was here, there was not a shred
653
00:38:00,330 --> 00:38:04,590
of red left on your roll. You had run
out of red, and now you're running out
654
00:38:04,590 --> 00:38:08,630
green. If we needed any indication that
things were heading in the right
655
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:13,190
direction in here, that's it. Looking
around and seeing green Xs versus red
656
00:38:13,210 --> 00:38:17,390
I know that there's more resting than
there is fighting going on in this
657
00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:19,210
That means that the homework worked.
658
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,840
Hello. Hello.
659
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:28,180
Yep. Look at this, man. Immediately, I'm
seeing catification. And I mean, really
660
00:38:28,180 --> 00:38:29,260
solid work.
661
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,800
Nice.
662
00:38:32,020 --> 00:38:35,160
Here you
663
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:42,020
have this moment where, right
664
00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:48,480
there, where she went from wild animal
to this, which is just ho -hum.
665
00:38:49,110 --> 00:38:54,130
This is that moment where she realizes
that the red dot is not something she's
666
00:38:54,130 --> 00:38:55,069
going to be able to kill.
667
00:38:55,070 --> 00:38:59,410
This is where you bring out the actual
toy that she can kill. Andrew still has
668
00:38:59,410 --> 00:39:02,870
lot to learn when it comes to boil and
simmer. He's got the boil part down, but
669
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:04,690
the simmer, not so much.
670
00:39:05,150 --> 00:39:06,150
You like that stuff?
671
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:07,630
Yeah, you do.
672
00:39:07,970 --> 00:39:11,910
How long did it take her to... No time
at all. So that...
673
00:39:12,110 --> 00:39:15,850
It helps to prove our point that this is
our little tree dweller, right?
674
00:39:16,190 --> 00:39:19,570
Watching this homework, I mean, my
wildest dream was that I would come back
675
00:39:19,570 --> 00:39:23,910
Charlie would be walking around the
walls as if she was walking on the
676
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:28,130
not better. And that's what I'm seeing.
She is a tree dweller, and now she has
677
00:39:28,130 --> 00:39:30,370
treetops to roam. We just had a feeding.
678
00:39:30,730 --> 00:39:33,810
where I tried to put a food bowl down in
the middle of the floor, and Charlie
679
00:39:33,810 --> 00:39:37,710
was not taking. Charlie was still
meandering around the outside, and
680
00:39:37,710 --> 00:39:42,190
about her escape plan. So I moved the
bowl a little closer to a different part
681
00:39:42,190 --> 00:39:45,710
of the room that she likes, and Charlie
took it, and they both started eating
682
00:39:45,710 --> 00:39:50,130
next to each other. To see Charlie eat
that close to Frankie, and not just eat
683
00:39:50,130 --> 00:39:54,590
next to her, but posture up just a
little bit, that's our girl just
684
00:39:54,590 --> 00:39:56,950
grow some muscles, man. She's getting
strong.
685
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,420
So, Merry Christmas, everybody.
686
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,220
Okay, Liz is already opening the boxes.
687
00:40:03,980 --> 00:40:05,080
Look at this pet gate.
688
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,920
All right, baby.
689
00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:08,460
That's really cool.
690
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:14,260
This body language of Charlie being in
control of the situation.
691
00:40:14,580 --> 00:40:20,120
It was this wonderful sort of like, wait
a minute, I can watch all of this and I
692
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,220
don't have to worry that I'm going to be
chased, you know?
693
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,970
Based on everything I saw in homework, I
think that we need to... Push another
694
00:40:26,970 --> 00:40:27,970
challenge line here.
695
00:40:29,010 --> 00:40:31,350
We do feel confident having the two cats
play together.
696
00:40:31,590 --> 00:40:34,810
I think we can do it. You, my little
love.
697
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,740
Do you think I can get you back up here?
What do you think? Right now, the
698
00:40:38,740 --> 00:40:43,560
exercise that I have in mind is
something where Charlie is occupied to a
699
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:48,000
where she can be absolutely confident in
the space as she has been. At the same
700
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,260
time, Frankie's coming down the stairs,
entering the space, playing, following
701
00:40:52,260 --> 00:40:57,280
treats, whatever Andrew has, so that
they can both be occupied on a task.
702
00:40:57,660 --> 00:41:01,540
And not each other. And of course,
Frankie cannot chase Charlie. Use it on
703
00:41:01,540 --> 00:41:04,020
floor. Guide it around. You know how to
make her go, man.
704
00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:05,300
Guide, guide, guide.
705
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,260
Here. Take a few of these.
706
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,680
And when all else fails, I want you to
plant it where you want her to be.
707
00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:12,220
Let her see you do it. Frank.
708
00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:14,580
There you go.
709
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,800
Nice going.
710
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:17,800
Keep Frankie going.
711
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,460
Come on, baby. Right up here.
712
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,880
There it is.
713
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,340
Now that's exactly what I wanted. We
have got Charlie up.
714
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,840
Frankie down.
715
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,160
This is a brave vertical cat, and this
is an occupied floor cat.
716
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:37,320
Very, very nice. The end goal here was
an ability to share space without
717
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,100
being a constant target and for Charlie
to have the mojo it takes to live in a
718
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:46,220
house with Frankie. I'm seeing both of
those things come to fruition right now.
719
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,760
It's a big, big change.
720
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:50,300
All right, guys. Take care of yourself.
Thank you.
721
00:41:50,580 --> 00:41:52,480
Bye -bye. Bye -bye. Hug it out with me,
buddy.
722
00:41:53,390 --> 00:41:58,230
When Jackson first came, Charlie was
nowhere to be found, and now it's a
723
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:58,968
and day difference.
724
00:41:58,970 --> 00:42:05,390
And if not for Jackson's expertise and
perspective and experience, our lives,
725
00:42:05,390 --> 00:42:08,890
cat's lives, would not have made such a
dramatic turnaround.
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