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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:04,140 Miles peed by the front door, on the front door. He just peed. 2 00:00:04,780 --> 00:00:08,020 He peed on the wall. He peed under the window. 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,860 Lena's at that age where she is walking and getting into everything. 4 00:00:13,120 --> 00:00:18,140 We worry that she will stick her hands in a newly formed pee puddle. What if I 5 00:00:18,140 --> 00:00:21,200 couldn't come over here? We've put out the feelers to find him a new home. 6 00:00:22,380 --> 00:00:27,380 My name is Molly, and together with my hero, Tobacco, we help rescue cats. 7 00:00:27,820 --> 00:00:28,820 The kittens! 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,340 Yay! My little babies! 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,760 I'm here at the Allendale Correctional Institution, which used to be one of the 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,480 roughest prisons in the system. But it has transformed into something beyond 11 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:45,860 anybody's wildest dreams. 12 00:00:46,260 --> 00:00:47,480 Cats! Everywhere! 13 00:00:47,980 --> 00:00:48,980 This is therapy. 14 00:00:49,060 --> 00:00:50,820 It's given many of these men a purpose. 15 00:00:51,100 --> 00:00:53,200 We're not just saving four -legged lives here. 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,000 We're saving two -legged lives. 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Whoa! 18 00:00:57,769 --> 00:00:59,610 Holy! I'm Jackson Galaxy. 19 00:00:59,830 --> 00:01:00,830 What the hell, man? 20 00:01:01,130 --> 00:01:05,890 The animal behaviors that guardians call when they're dealing with a difficult 21 00:01:05,890 --> 00:01:08,790 cat. Sometimes I wish that I didn't have her. 22 00:01:09,030 --> 00:01:10,030 Damn. 23 00:01:10,390 --> 00:01:15,050 I'm out to prove that there is no such thing as a bad cat. Just a cat that 24 00:01:15,050 --> 00:01:16,150 my help. This is fun. 25 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,740 I'm Kristen. And I'm Alyssa. We have a 16 -month -old daughter, Lena, and three 26 00:01:31,740 --> 00:01:34,060 cats, Max, Maury, and Miles. 27 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,740 We adopted Max and Maury when they were about three months old, about a year and 28 00:01:38,740 --> 00:01:42,240 a half before we brought Miles in. We just had the intention of fostering him 29 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,160 and finding him a new home. But over the time that it took us to find somebody 30 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,920 to take him, Max, Maury, and Miles all bonded. We just couldn't separate them. 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:50,439 Hi, pretty boy. 32 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,920 There's just a special place in my heart for Miles. Hi. 33 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:59,020 He's just such a little sweetie. He's a great cat, but he's been peeing in our 34 00:01:59,020 --> 00:02:00,760 house for the last three years. 35 00:02:00,980 --> 00:02:02,880 And there it is. He just peed. 36 00:02:03,300 --> 00:02:05,080 Can you see it? Yeah. 37 00:02:05,300 --> 00:02:06,300 That's Miles' pee. 38 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,120 Miles has peed by the front door, on the front door. 39 00:02:11,340 --> 00:02:13,320 Looks like he emptied his entire bladder. 40 00:02:13,740 --> 00:02:14,920 He pees on the wall. 41 00:02:15,740 --> 00:02:17,260 He pees under the window. 42 00:02:17,500 --> 00:02:19,780 This is a brand new pee spot. 43 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,960 There's literally not a spot in this house he hasn't peed. This is an area 44 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:24,960 he peed often. 45 00:02:25,300 --> 00:02:30,280 Lena's at that age where she is getting into everything, and we worry that she 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,740 will stick her hands in a newly formed pee puddle. We don't know if he would 47 00:02:34,740 --> 00:02:37,560 on her toys. Every time he gets near that window, I get nervous. 48 00:02:37,900 --> 00:02:42,100 There's just no way to ensure that we can be on top of it when Miles pees 49 00:02:42,100 --> 00:02:43,100 somewhere. 50 00:02:43,980 --> 00:02:48,580 So we decided to confine Miles to our bedroom. So he's been confined in our 51 00:02:48,580 --> 00:02:53,560 bedroom for almost a year, and it has taken a toll on him. He hears us out 52 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:56,560 and he wants to be a part of the family, but we can't let him out because we 53 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,480 can't risk having Pete around the house. 54 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,760 Pretty quickly after Miles being left in the bedroom, there was an immediate 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,240 difference in his relationship with the other cats. 56 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:07,880 Nope. Oh, my God. 57 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:10,480 Lena! 58 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,500 Miles is back in his safe zone. 59 00:03:13,450 --> 00:03:14,490 There was fur everywhere. 60 00:03:15,850 --> 00:03:20,390 Maury and Max will come to the door and hiss at Miles, and Miles will just paw 61 00:03:20,390 --> 00:03:21,870 at the door and meow. 62 00:03:22,210 --> 00:03:23,290 Can you ruin the door? 63 00:03:23,850 --> 00:03:28,250 They don't feel like a group anymore. It feels like Max and Maury and Miles. 64 00:03:29,490 --> 00:03:30,490 Whoa! 65 00:03:32,250 --> 00:03:35,930 Anytime we think he's getting better, we take him out. 66 00:03:36,730 --> 00:03:40,010 And so then there's a flare -up, and then it just becomes worse. 67 00:03:41,740 --> 00:03:44,260 We feel like failures, and we feel like we've failed Miles. 68 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,060 I love you a lot, little man. 69 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,420 We would love it if Jackson could bring our family back together, including 70 00:03:50,420 --> 00:03:52,820 Miles. Oh, my pretty little man. 71 00:03:53,220 --> 00:03:55,320 We really feel like Jackson's our only hope. 72 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,320 Hello. Hello. 73 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,840 Hello. How are you? I'm good. I'm Jackson. Alyssa. Alyssa. Kristen. 74 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,300 Hey, Kristen. Good to meet you guys. This is Lena. 75 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,520 Hey, Lena. 76 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,280 So, tell me what's up. So, we have three cats. 77 00:04:12,580 --> 00:04:13,580 Max and Maury are brothers. 78 00:04:13,940 --> 00:04:17,620 Miles was brought in later. Okay. Everything is great for the first year. 79 00:04:17,620 --> 00:04:19,680 day, Miles just started peeing on walls. 80 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,020 Yeah. He pees outside of the box at least four to five times a day. A day? 81 00:04:24,280 --> 00:04:28,340 Yes. Does he ever pee in the box? Yeah. Yeah. He could sometimes go in the 82 00:04:28,340 --> 00:04:31,280 litter box, pee a little, come out and pee on the wall. It's very strange. 83 00:04:31,580 --> 00:04:34,940 Wow, man. How old was Miles when we started? 84 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:39,100 Probably a year. He was about a year old, yeah. Really? So, everything's 85 00:04:39,100 --> 00:04:43,480 fine. And then a year into it. We were like, let's take him to the vet just to 86 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:48,600 be sure everything's going on there. And he was getting bladder crystals. Some 87 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,600 cats are just predisposed to getting crystals in their bladder, just like 88 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,420 humans are predisposed to. 89 00:04:55,130 --> 00:04:59,150 Kidney stones. When a cat has their urethra blocked by crystals, they can 90 00:04:59,150 --> 00:05:01,970 septic and die. It's not a small thing. 91 00:05:02,210 --> 00:05:05,370 And they believe it was brought on by stress, because he is kind of a high 92 00:05:05,370 --> 00:05:09,010 -stress cat. He always has, like, the big eyes, and he's always rubbing up on 93 00:05:09,010 --> 00:05:11,210 everything. He seems very territorial. 94 00:05:11,630 --> 00:05:13,650 Okay. So the crystals kept forming. 95 00:05:14,460 --> 00:05:16,400 Yeah, he had to be catheterized twice. 96 00:05:16,660 --> 00:05:20,640 Wow. And they said, why don't we have the, what's the surgery called? The 97 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,400 perineal urethra. Oh, the PU surgery? 98 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:25,760 We decided, you know, it's probably the best course of action, and the vet 99 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,160 agreed. Wow, it got that bad that he had to have the surgery. The PU surgery 100 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,120 makes their urethra larger so that crystals don't lead to blockages. It's a 101 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,700 pretty severe surgery, but in cases like Miles, it usually helps. Did it resolve 102 00:05:37,700 --> 00:05:38,900 anything? No. 103 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,400 He doesn't have any crystals. 104 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,560 Right. He's healthy. 105 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,180 He's healthy, but he's still peeing. 106 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,760 Yes, the surgery worked, but Miles didn't stop peeing, so something else 107 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:51,760 going on here. 108 00:05:51,780 --> 00:05:55,740 So he lives in our room, and the other cats have the rest of the house. We have 109 00:05:55,740 --> 00:05:59,700 left him in that room for a year. It's been a year. The only other thing is it 110 00:05:59,700 --> 00:06:01,800 now has created a tension in the household. 111 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,220 We're worried that it increases his stress level and that he'll continue to 112 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,850 Yeah. And also, Lena came into the picture. We can't let him out because we 113 00:06:11,850 --> 00:06:15,610 can't risk having pee around the house where Lena could potentially get into 114 00:06:15,650 --> 00:06:16,650 There she goes. 115 00:06:16,730 --> 00:06:22,010 It's hard to imagine that you can keep him in a room 24 -7 and he doesn't act 116 00:06:22,010 --> 00:06:23,190 out to some degree. 117 00:06:23,470 --> 00:06:27,230 He does scratch at the door to get out of the room. So we'll put him in the 118 00:06:27,230 --> 00:06:30,810 bathroom in our bedroom at night sometimes because we can't sleep. Wait, 119 00:06:30,830 --> 00:06:36,710 let me back up. So now he's going from being in the bedroom to being in the 120 00:06:36,710 --> 00:06:37,710 bathroom in the bedroom. 121 00:06:37,950 --> 00:06:38,950 Right. 122 00:06:39,109 --> 00:06:42,590 Man, so we just keep making it smaller and smaller. 123 00:06:42,870 --> 00:06:46,250 They're putting Miles in the bathroom because he stresses them out. They can't 124 00:06:46,250 --> 00:06:50,730 sleep at night, but by putting him in the bathroom, they are causing his 125 00:06:50,730 --> 00:06:52,430 to skyrocket. It's not a win. 126 00:06:52,870 --> 00:06:55,970 What if I couldn't come over here? Where are you guys at? 127 00:06:56,890 --> 00:07:02,550 We've put out the feelers to find him a new home because we feel like maybe he'd 128 00:07:02,550 --> 00:07:03,790 be happier in a single cat home. 129 00:07:05,470 --> 00:07:08,090 Okay. These guys are talking about rehoming. 130 00:07:08,780 --> 00:07:13,140 And they're serious about it. But it is the worst idea because nobody's going to 131 00:07:13,140 --> 00:07:16,780 adopt a cat who pees around the house five times a day, morning, noon, and 132 00:07:16,780 --> 00:07:20,880 night. I would love to meet Miles, but I also want to see what his world looks 133 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:21,679 like, okay? 134 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,160 All right, let's go take a look. A lot of times just seeing where a cat pees 135 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,960 will tell me what he might be responding to environmentally, and hopefully 136 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:29,960 that's the case right now. 137 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:31,179 Where's our boy? 138 00:07:31,180 --> 00:07:33,680 I think we lost him. I think he's under the bed. 139 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,380 Okay, that's cool. We can... 140 00:07:39,130 --> 00:07:42,530 Wow. This room's a lot smaller than I thought it was going to be, man. This is 141 00:07:42,530 --> 00:07:43,509 small room. 142 00:07:43,510 --> 00:07:46,650 I can't believe that Miles has been living in this small bedroom for over a 143 00:07:46,650 --> 00:07:49,530 year, and I can't believe that these people, who I know are good people, felt 144 00:07:49,530 --> 00:07:52,710 like they had to lock him in this room for over a year. It's not a solution. 145 00:07:52,750 --> 00:07:53,970 It's far from a solution. 146 00:07:54,270 --> 00:07:58,070 And that's the bathroom where he'll wind up. Yep. Wow. 147 00:07:58,510 --> 00:08:01,810 That's an incredibly small bathroom. That's an incredibly small bathroom, 148 00:08:01,890 --> 00:08:04,730 Damn. Well, you guys got to live with it because it smells in here. 149 00:08:05,070 --> 00:08:09,850 You can smell the pee in here. Yes, we can. So I'm just a little, I'm more than 150 00:08:09,850 --> 00:08:10,809 a little concerned. 151 00:08:10,810 --> 00:08:15,650 To think he goes into this bathroom, which is an eighth of the size of the 152 00:08:15,650 --> 00:08:16,970 bedroom, is unbelievable. 153 00:08:17,270 --> 00:08:18,270 And it's got to stop. 154 00:08:18,450 --> 00:08:19,590 This is a bad situation. 155 00:08:20,210 --> 00:08:22,450 I mean, really, this is a bad situation. 156 00:08:30,570 --> 00:08:31,910 This is a bad situation. 157 00:08:32,210 --> 00:08:35,890 And we recognize that it's not a good situation. Well, you guys got to live 158 00:08:35,890 --> 00:08:38,909 it because it smells in here. You can smell the pee in here. I mean, there's 159 00:08:38,909 --> 00:08:43,090 way that that boy can pee four or five times a day outside the box and he's in 160 00:08:43,090 --> 00:08:46,730 here that it's not going to smell. I don't even know how these guys sleep 161 00:08:46,810 --> 00:08:48,150 let alone Miles live here. 162 00:08:48,530 --> 00:08:49,530 This room. 163 00:08:49,980 --> 00:08:50,879 Not good. 164 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,120 What does he pee on in here? So right here. 165 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:58,300 Oh, yeah, you can't see it. So he pees right along this wall here. And then 166 00:08:58,300 --> 00:08:59,880 along the window. 167 00:09:00,340 --> 00:09:01,319 Underneath the window. 168 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,200 So he basically confines himself to these two spots. 169 00:09:04,740 --> 00:09:09,200 Yeah. Lena has been growing up for 16 months while he's been in here. 170 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:14,400 It's almost like he hasn't been here. He lives like a completely separate life 171 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,420 from the rest of the house. Yeah, it's just like he's not really part of the 172 00:09:16,420 --> 00:09:17,420 family, which is sad. 173 00:09:17,700 --> 00:09:18,700 Yeah. 174 00:09:18,940 --> 00:09:22,460 Right now, with the information I have, I don't know what Miles is responding 175 00:09:22,460 --> 00:09:26,360 to. I don't know if it's the environment itself, if it's the other cats, if it's 176 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,680 Lena, if it's something outside the house, because it could be out there, it 177 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:31,940 could be in here. I don't know, but we've got to find out. 178 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:38,160 So the bottom line is, you've got a very stressed cat who is occupying an eighth 179 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,900 of the territory that he needs to. 180 00:09:40,660 --> 00:09:46,080 He reacts to stress by peeing. But I don't know what's causing his stress. 181 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,400 got to find out what's causing it. 182 00:09:47,690 --> 00:09:50,470 So the first thing that we're going to do is we're going to deal with some 183 00:09:50,470 --> 00:09:53,770 surveillance. I'm going to leave you with some cameras. We're going to find 184 00:09:53,770 --> 00:09:59,170 what's happening when we can't see him. Being able to see his stressy behavior I 185 00:09:59,170 --> 00:10:02,290 think is going to really help us to get a better, fuller picture of how we can 186 00:10:02,290 --> 00:10:05,610 address this. So now we're going to move into the world of getting him out of 187 00:10:05,610 --> 00:10:09,570 that room. So I'd like you guys to start doing some supervised access with him. 188 00:10:09,910 --> 00:10:14,070 So that means that he's going to have access to out here only when you guys 189 00:10:14,070 --> 00:10:17,670 be with him enough so that he doesn't set himself up for failure. 190 00:10:17,890 --> 00:10:21,830 Also, the only way to see if he gets along with the other cats is to get him 191 00:10:21,830 --> 00:10:22,769 with them. 192 00:10:22,770 --> 00:10:26,750 And then over the course of a couple weeks, try to expand that time out a 193 00:10:26,750 --> 00:10:30,250 bit. Just let it happen for the length of time that you guys feel comfortable. 194 00:10:30,330 --> 00:10:34,490 Maybe push it this much more. By expanding Miles' territory, we're going 195 00:10:34,490 --> 00:10:37,750 if his anxiety actually decreases because he's got access. 196 00:10:38,250 --> 00:10:40,770 Or it increases because he can't defend all that territory. 197 00:10:41,090 --> 00:10:45,470 Now the next one is nighttime playtime. Before you guys go to bed, we're going 198 00:10:45,470 --> 00:10:46,009 to play. 199 00:10:46,010 --> 00:10:49,650 I want them to really play him out so that he's tired enough to go to bed when 200 00:10:49,650 --> 00:10:52,190 they go to bed and stay asleep while they're asleep. 201 00:10:52,410 --> 00:10:59,330 You can't expect him to be chill when he can't move around. Which leads us to no 202 00:10:59,330 --> 00:11:00,490 more shutting him in the bathroom. 203 00:11:00,750 --> 00:11:04,870 Period. You have to completely ignore him. You don't yell at him. You don't... 204 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:10,780 do anything because the attention that he gets from that will say oh this works 205 00:11:10,780 --> 00:11:15,060 i don't want miles in that bathroom period it's too small it's going to 206 00:11:15,060 --> 00:11:18,700 his anxiety tenfold he doesn't like being behind closed doors he doesn't 207 00:11:18,700 --> 00:11:21,520 being separated from the rest of the family we're doing both of them at the 208 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:26,300 time and you can't breathe in there All right, guys, take care, hang in there, 209 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,380 and I'll see you soon. I'm concerned about Miles coming out into the living 210 00:11:30,380 --> 00:11:34,380 and peeing and Lena getting into it, and that's not a good situation. 211 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,640 I'm here in Dallas to meet up with Molly, who, with her cat Tabasco, has 212 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,680 balanced a thriving business. 213 00:11:51,050 --> 00:11:55,710 with the business of rescuing and fostering hundreds of cats here in the 214 00:11:55,710 --> 00:11:58,550 community. I cannot wait to meet her. Hello, buddy. 215 00:11:59,570 --> 00:12:02,750 Hi. How are you? You're acting good. I'm Molly. 216 00:12:02,970 --> 00:12:05,850 Good to meet you, Molly. Good to meet you. And this must be Tabasco. I see 217 00:12:05,850 --> 00:12:10,210 you've already met Tabasco. My name is Molly, and I have a marketing company. 218 00:12:10,210 --> 00:12:12,190 do marketing, branding, website. 219 00:12:12,690 --> 00:12:16,630 And together with my hero, Tabasco, we help rescue cats. 220 00:12:16,930 --> 00:12:19,830 Now, you got Tabasco as a kitten? 221 00:12:20,170 --> 00:12:22,830 I did. I adopted him 13 years ago. 222 00:12:23,590 --> 00:12:24,870 The office cat. 223 00:12:25,130 --> 00:12:30,130 Tabasco is a cat basseter, we call him. He greets people that come in the front 224 00:12:30,130 --> 00:12:35,910 door in the business and helps debunk that myth that cats are aloof and mean. 225 00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:40,270 also helps with fosters, gives them a sense of companionship while we're here. 226 00:12:40,690 --> 00:12:41,689 Who's that? 227 00:12:41,690 --> 00:12:42,689 That's Nyla. 228 00:12:42,690 --> 00:12:48,370 Hi, Nyla. Nyla came into the shelter with a giant laceration on her rear leg. 229 00:12:48,650 --> 00:12:50,380 Jeez. Pretty confident. 230 00:12:50,660 --> 00:12:55,000 Not only the human interaction helps make her feel confident and learn 231 00:12:55,180 --> 00:13:00,120 but she follows Tabasco around. So she kind of learns what's appropriate and 232 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,240 appropriate. It's nice to have that sort of social bridge, that he is sort of a 233 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,200 little behavior teacher, huh? He is. 234 00:13:08,170 --> 00:13:12,550 How did it start for you? About 10 years ago, I started working at the Dallas 235 00:13:12,550 --> 00:13:13,550 Animal Services. 236 00:13:13,590 --> 00:13:18,130 I volunteer there every weekend. We get over 30 ,000 animals a year brought in, 237 00:13:18,210 --> 00:13:22,690 underage litters of kittens, adult cats with behavioral issues, of course. I'm 238 00:13:22,690 --> 00:13:27,170 sure because it's a municipal shelter that you saw your fair share of tragic 239 00:13:27,170 --> 00:13:31,070 stories. You can't turn anybody away. We'll take whatever you have, no matter 240 00:13:31,070 --> 00:13:32,710 how old or injured or broken. 241 00:13:33,110 --> 00:13:36,910 I mean, you're faced with a lot of euthanasia in a shelter of that 242 00:13:37,210 --> 00:13:37,609 We are. 243 00:13:37,610 --> 00:13:42,210 A shelter system where you're always this close to being completely 244 00:13:42,210 --> 00:13:46,590 and you have a cat that comes in that needs to have a leg amputated or is 245 00:13:46,590 --> 00:13:51,770 paralyzed. You don't have the time, the resources, the space, nothing. 246 00:13:52,050 --> 00:13:55,170 In many cities, those cats don't make it out of the shelter. 247 00:13:55,930 --> 00:13:57,430 Such a huge need. 248 00:13:58,130 --> 00:14:02,610 Paralyzed amputees, those seem to be the ones that I gravitate towards. 249 00:14:02,990 --> 00:14:07,470 Wow. It started with rescue kitty. Here's this cat that's completely 250 00:14:07,470 --> 00:14:11,390 from the waist down. She climbed right up my jacket and just put her arms 251 00:14:11,390 --> 00:14:15,810 me and buried her head in my chest. I was like, oh, please. It's all over. 252 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:21,620 I knew the shelter certainly wouldn't have the resources to support for long 253 00:14:21,620 --> 00:14:26,080 -term care, but I knew I couldn't leave her there. I brought her here, and it 254 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,120 took about eight weeks from start to finish, and she was walking. 255 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,360 Unbelievable. I thought, somebody has to do something here. 256 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,220 So I decided because I had a 4 ,000 -square -foot building that we weren't 257 00:14:41,220 --> 00:14:46,520 all the space in. We dedicated one of the offices to a foster room where cats 258 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,500 are either too young or they're injured. 259 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:53,760 In a foster home, not only are they safer from disease, but they also get 260 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:59,020 exposed to social interactions that help to make them better cats. 261 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:05,870 So Rescue Kitty, by basically picking you, yeah completely threw you into a 262 00:15:05,870 --> 00:15:09,570 different world it did yeah so we have the for -profit business that supports 263 00:15:09,570 --> 00:15:14,850 our non -profit efforts which is doing as much as we possibly can to support 264 00:15:14,850 --> 00:15:19,290 cats in our community any proceeds we get out of all the work that we do 265 00:15:19,290 --> 00:15:25,990 my business goes to pay for pet food pet supplies things we donate feels good to 266 00:15:25,990 --> 00:15:29,690 be able to do something so right now in your care 267 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,540 Who else we got? We have Barney, Boots, Buster, and Bandit. 268 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,580 For some reason, that sounds like kittens to me. Of course it is. You have 269 00:15:38,580 --> 00:15:39,940 litter of kittens. We have a litter of kittens. 270 00:15:40,380 --> 00:15:41,540 Can I meet the kittens? 271 00:15:41,780 --> 00:15:43,520 Absolutely. Yay. Yay. 272 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,040 Kittens. The kittens. 273 00:15:48,660 --> 00:15:50,140 Hi, little babies. 274 00:15:50,820 --> 00:15:52,400 This is our kitten foster room. 275 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:54,720 And who do I have here? 276 00:15:55,420 --> 00:15:56,520 You have Barney. 277 00:15:56,740 --> 00:15:57,740 Hi, Barney. 278 00:15:58,719 --> 00:16:01,800 They were at the shelter and they only weighed a pound. 279 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:07,340 They need a place to hang and learn about life and get lots of loving. And 280 00:16:07,340 --> 00:16:10,380 once they reach two pounds, we'll take them back to the adoption room. 281 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,040 They were pretty feral when they first came in. 282 00:16:13,260 --> 00:16:17,040 Really? Yeah. And so this is the kind of thing that you have people do. Exactly. 283 00:16:17,060 --> 00:16:20,560 Just hold and play with. And love on. 284 00:16:21,660 --> 00:16:26,660 Kiss, of course. The more we can expose them to, the better adult cats they 285 00:16:26,660 --> 00:16:30,240 make. So we try to have as many people in the building handle them as possible, 286 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,520 and so when they go back, they'll be great cats. 287 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,980 You've got nobody here who's hiding in a tube, who's hiding in the litter box. 288 00:16:37,140 --> 00:16:39,460 These guys will all go home in a heartbeat. 289 00:16:40,140 --> 00:16:44,820 Molly has managed to create a beautiful, nurturing space where these kittens can 290 00:16:44,820 --> 00:16:49,820 come in here and very rapidly get socialized, get the right start in life, 291 00:16:49,820 --> 00:16:50,820 go off to home. 292 00:16:50,940 --> 00:16:54,520 where they probably won't get returned because they've got their mojo on and 293 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,520 they're going to adapt well. 294 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:00,260 Molly, thank you so much. I think the work you're doing is amazing. 295 00:17:00,540 --> 00:17:02,040 Keep it up. Thank you. 296 00:17:02,740 --> 00:17:08,700 I love stories like this. I mean, Molly decided to throw herself into the 297 00:17:08,700 --> 00:17:13,099 solution here to make sure that all of Dallas knows every cat counts. 298 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:16,980 Every night he still pees. 299 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,540 One night, it happened at 3 a .m., he peed on the wall. 4 a .m., he peed on 300 00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:24,020 wall. 5 a .m., he peed on the wall. Wow. 301 00:17:31,100 --> 00:17:32,100 No! 302 00:17:37,830 --> 00:17:41,370 I'm back from my second visit with Alyssa and Kristen and their cat, Miles. 303 00:17:41,630 --> 00:17:45,090 Now, Miles had been peeing around the house so much for so long that he got 304 00:17:45,090 --> 00:17:47,390 locked away in the back bedroom for over a year. 305 00:17:48,170 --> 00:17:50,850 Now, I've had them grant him access to the house. 306 00:17:51,110 --> 00:17:52,590 Hopefully, that hasn't backfired. 307 00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:54,590 Hey, Jackson. 308 00:17:54,610 --> 00:17:57,330 Hey. Hi. How are you doing? Good. How are you? I'm good. 309 00:17:58,070 --> 00:18:02,670 I can't help but notice I see an open door. Is this like supervised out time 310 00:18:02,670 --> 00:18:04,070 happening right now? Yeah. 311 00:18:04,270 --> 00:18:05,270 Great. 312 00:18:05,529 --> 00:18:08,470 So clearly, things have to be going okay. 313 00:18:08,690 --> 00:18:09,730 How are you guys feeling? 314 00:18:11,370 --> 00:18:12,370 We're a little tired. 315 00:18:12,930 --> 00:18:15,490 Why? The nights have been rough. 316 00:18:16,210 --> 00:18:19,390 With Miles having to sleep with us all night long, that's been a little 317 00:18:19,390 --> 00:18:22,690 exhausting. Well, you know what? Let's just get to it. I want to check out your 318 00:18:22,690 --> 00:18:26,110 video homework and see exactly where we're at. 319 00:18:26,430 --> 00:18:27,430 All right, here we go. 320 00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:31,170 He's just still a very vocal cat. So from three to five. 321 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,860 He's meowing, scratching at the door. Oh my gosh, he's like a prairie dog. 322 00:18:36,500 --> 00:18:40,380 How many times have you cleaned up pee in the past couple weeks? 323 00:18:40,660 --> 00:18:43,300 Every night he still peed in our bedroom. 324 00:18:43,700 --> 00:18:48,620 One night it happened at 3 a .m. he peed on the wall, we cleaned it. 4 a .m. he 325 00:18:48,620 --> 00:18:52,800 peed on the wall, we cleaned it. 5 a .m. he peed on the wall. Wow. In the same 326 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,080 area. What area was that? 327 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:55,960 Under the window. Under the window. 328 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,280 Okay, what I'm thinking right now is that this cat has no territory 329 00:19:01,169 --> 00:19:05,490 Being cordoned into a room or out of a room is causing him a lot of anxiety. 330 00:19:05,830 --> 00:19:08,810 Having free passage, I think, would solve part of the problem. 331 00:19:09,090 --> 00:19:12,590 I keep on walking away to go take care of Lena. And when I come back, they're 332 00:19:12,590 --> 00:19:14,970 like, fine, no drama, just eating. 333 00:19:16,190 --> 00:19:19,350 That was great. This is them getting to know each other again. 334 00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:25,190 And I love the fact that we get to see what this normal body language is. Sort 335 00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:26,550 of a reintroduction dance. 336 00:19:27,070 --> 00:19:30,790 I've been giving these guys these salmon treats, and they go so crazy for them 337 00:19:30,790 --> 00:19:33,210 that they don't even mind being an inch from each other. 338 00:19:33,650 --> 00:19:34,710 That's our good boy. 339 00:19:35,650 --> 00:19:40,950 Let's just dispel any myths that these three cats are in any way enemies. 340 00:19:41,250 --> 00:19:44,890 Now that Miles has access to the rest of the house, we get to see behavior like 341 00:19:44,890 --> 00:19:48,810 eating out of the same bowl at the same time. That's game over in terms of the 342 00:19:48,810 --> 00:19:50,550 competition. Let's just call them friends. 343 00:19:50,810 --> 00:19:52,890 Great shot. You guys are getting all of it. 344 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:55,339 There we go. 345 00:19:55,340 --> 00:19:56,820 He really likes the laser pointer. 346 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,800 Lean again into the egg. 347 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,160 Whoa. 348 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:10,760 Love it. I was playing with the boys, and Miles got scared. Even though none 349 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,420 the cats were bothering him, he ran down the hall and peed right there. 350 00:20:16,060 --> 00:20:18,100 He got scared. Do you know of what? 351 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,260 No. It seemed like when we first took him out to play with him, when he'd get 352 00:20:21,260 --> 00:20:25,300 really into it and do a big jump, he'd get embarrassed or scared and run. So 353 00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:29,720 he's scaring himself, really. He gets up into that really crazed place, and he 354 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,120 scares himself, and that leads him to pee. A little bit. But the play was 355 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:37,180 to drain his energy, not stress him out. You want to talk about an irrational 356 00:20:37,180 --> 00:20:41,710 response. You're playing, your energy gets piqued, you jump in the air, and 357 00:20:41,710 --> 00:20:45,730 own jump scares you enough that you run down the hall and pee. That lets you 358 00:20:45,730 --> 00:20:49,430 know that Miles' responses are just not all there. 359 00:20:49,980 --> 00:20:51,760 Now I'll probably check out the litter box. 360 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,560 And then go pee on the wall. 361 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,739 Here we go. 362 00:20:54,740 --> 00:20:56,420 No! Don't let it happen. 363 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:57,479 I agree! 364 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,800 Because the only reason I said supervised access was so that you 365 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,220 stop him. I don't always let him, but in that case... Okay, well, okay. Let's 366 00:21:05,220 --> 00:21:08,500 say you weren't filming it for me. You wouldn't let him do it. I probably would 367 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:12,320 have brought him into our room. Okay. What you're doing is you're taking the 368 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,380 neuroses that he has, which is I don't own this spot, and I have to over -own 369 00:21:16,380 --> 00:21:20,520 it. And he feels like every time I leave this room... I better leave my mark 370 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,460 because it's temporary. 371 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:28,280 You guys captured a lot of great stuff on here. Yeah, we took our homework very 372 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:33,020 seriously. You did take your homework seriously, which goes back to where I 373 00:21:33,020 --> 00:21:36,340 you. I mean, when we first met, rehoming was very much on the table. 374 00:21:36,540 --> 00:21:40,920 What I want to know is, are you guys still considering it? Are you still at 375 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,920 place right now? 376 00:21:46,270 --> 00:21:49,870 Yeah, it's still on the table because we can't continue to live like this. We're 377 00:21:49,870 --> 00:21:54,150 still worried about Miles peeing somewhere that we don't notice and Lena 378 00:21:54,150 --> 00:21:58,030 it. That being said, we're not going to drop him off at a shelter no matter how 379 00:21:58,030 --> 00:21:59,030 hard it gets. 380 00:21:59,090 --> 00:22:02,090 Because he matters to us. We love him and we want him to be happy. 381 00:22:02,290 --> 00:22:07,190 Right. If we can make him regulated and better, then obviously he's staying with 382 00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:08,710 us. Right. I get it. 383 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:12,520 I guess this is really intolerable. Normally, if a couple says something 384 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,520 rehoming their cat if we can't solve the problem, I'll come down pretty hard on 385 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,040 them. But nobody wants to wake up in the middle of the night to have a cat 386 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,100 peeing inches from your face, let alone having it happen on the hour, every 387 00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:24,840 hour. That's a lot to ask of anybody. 388 00:22:25,100 --> 00:22:30,280 I am absolutely determined to stay on the bright side of this whole thing. Mm 389 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,280 -hmm. So I'm... Hey, baby boy. 390 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,080 Hello, baby boy. 391 00:22:34,540 --> 00:22:35,540 Miles. 392 00:22:35,860 --> 00:22:37,020 Hi, Miles, my friend. 393 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,900 Now he's going into Lena's room. That does make us nervous. 394 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:43,980 Why? When Lena was not here, that was actually his favorite room to pee in. 395 00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:48,760 I am just hoping that this cat has not peed in Lena's room somewhere because if 396 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,660 that happens, doors are going to close again, trust is gone, we're back to 397 00:22:52,660 --> 00:22:54,840 square one, and this family can't take that. 398 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,240 He was just in the corner. 399 00:22:56,780 --> 00:22:59,100 Uh -oh. The bad news is I smell pee. 400 00:22:59,380 --> 00:23:03,680 You know, I'm looking around, and there's no pee where Miles was, so 401 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,840 news, but I still smell something. I just don't know where it came from. 402 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,380 Oh, there's also a diaper pail right in front of me. I'm happy to report back to 403 00:23:11,380 --> 00:23:14,780 the Guardian. Miles had access. He went into Lena's room, sniffed around, and 404 00:23:14,780 --> 00:23:18,160 decided, I don't need to do anything. I'm good right now. That's something to 405 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,260 celebrate. Okay, so, I don't think he peed in there, but I smell... 406 00:23:22,999 --> 00:23:27,220 But that's also because my nose was right by the diaper pail. Yeah. So I 407 00:23:27,220 --> 00:23:30,980 that that's kind of what I was smelling. I think so. Yeah. So it wasn't a bad 408 00:23:30,980 --> 00:23:32,960 experience, and there's no pee in there, and yay. 409 00:23:33,260 --> 00:23:37,220 Yeah. I think we're in a good place right now. I think process -wise, we're 410 00:23:37,220 --> 00:23:42,300 where I would hope to be, with the exception of four or five pees in a room 411 00:23:42,300 --> 00:23:43,300 during the night. 412 00:23:43,420 --> 00:23:45,760 But I have a plan to minimize that as well. 413 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:51,180 From what I'm seeing, the peeing is not based on competition with the other cats 414 00:23:51,180 --> 00:23:52,179 for resources. 415 00:23:52,180 --> 00:23:55,000 They eat out of the same dish. They play with the same toy. They hang out in the 416 00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:01,000 same area. So what it's about is his inability to regulate his anxious 417 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,060 to normal energetic spikes. 418 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:05,560 His energy starts to peak. 419 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,620 And he's like, I only know to do one thing to regulate my own anxiety in this 420 00:24:09,620 --> 00:24:13,560 moment, and that's pee. Which leads me to conclude that we need to medicate 421 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,900 Miles. If Miles were my cat, I would... put him the medication because the 422 00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:21,440 peeing is not just a response to his environment to some degree or another 423 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,380 an irrational response to his environment not just putting medication 424 00:24:25,380 --> 00:24:29,540 as a cure -all you have the ability to predict half the time when he's going to 425 00:24:29,540 --> 00:24:34,580 do it knowing that that's happening means that we can prevent part of 426 00:24:34,580 --> 00:24:41,480 and prevention is redirection so instead of removing him which from now 427 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:47,640 on that's done your laser pointer is on Guard. Out it comes. Guide him right 428 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,860 here. Redirect that energy onto something positive so that he can 429 00:24:51,860 --> 00:24:56,260 himself. Also, I want you to continue with your surveillance work because 430 00:24:56,260 --> 00:24:59,580 now we know that your room is one of the prime spots. 431 00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:02,460 Let's get surveillance outside the window as well. 432 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,420 Now, that being said, I have one other thing for you guys. 433 00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:07,500 Uh -oh. He's going to say open the doors. 434 00:25:07,860 --> 00:25:08,860 Yeah. 435 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,540 You're like laughing and crying at the same time. But here's the thing. I want 436 00:25:12,540 --> 00:25:13,540 you to do it as an experiment. 437 00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:19,290 Okay? Open that door. But do it after you've done your routines, and I don't 438 00:25:19,290 --> 00:25:21,930 think that he's going to pee four times in a night out here. 439 00:25:22,170 --> 00:25:26,730 I don't know any other way that I can control Miles' energy except for to give 440 00:25:26,730 --> 00:25:30,630 him what he wants, which is getting his energy out in the rest of the house with 441 00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:31,609 the other cats. 442 00:25:31,610 --> 00:25:35,090 I know that I'm asking for a lot between this time and the next time we see each 443 00:25:35,090 --> 00:25:38,750 other, but I kind of got a feeling that with all these things in place, we're 444 00:25:38,750 --> 00:25:39,609 going to be okay. 445 00:25:39,610 --> 00:25:42,630 Okay. All right, guys. I will see you in just a few weeks' time. 446 00:25:43,370 --> 00:25:46,770 Hang in there. Thank you. Thank you. All right. I still feel like we have a very 447 00:25:46,770 --> 00:25:51,610 long way to go. We're still worried about pee behavior because of Lena, and 448 00:25:51,610 --> 00:25:54,030 rehoming will be on the table as long as the peeing continues. 449 00:25:56,750 --> 00:25:59,190 I am so pumped right now. 450 00:25:59,810 --> 00:26:03,970 I'm with a whole bunch of men who clearly have done something in their 451 00:26:03,970 --> 00:26:09,750 wind up in a prison, but they are proud of their cat, their dog, their role in 452 00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:12,650 things. Immediately I know that I'm in for something good here. 453 00:26:24,910 --> 00:26:26,210 My name is Vicki Scott. 454 00:26:26,450 --> 00:26:31,470 I'm the president of the Animal Advocate Organization, a rescue group in 455 00:26:31,470 --> 00:26:36,890 Barnwell, South Carolina, where we have a rescue adoption foster center. 456 00:26:41,230 --> 00:26:46,470 We're here today at Allendale Correctional Institution. 457 00:26:51,139 --> 00:26:55,160 where we have a fostering program that we call Meow Mate and Mutt Mate. 458 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,900 This is a new one for me. I'm here to meet up with Vicki Scott, whose program, 459 00:27:00,060 --> 00:27:05,220 Meow Mates, has saved the lives of over 300 animals and, in the process, has 460 00:27:05,220 --> 00:27:08,800 transformed what was one of the roughest prisons in the system. 461 00:27:10,060 --> 00:27:13,040 For all of us coming in here, I mean, this is not easy. 462 00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:18,430 You get all of our stuff in, the whole crew, and there's a lot of checks and 463 00:27:18,430 --> 00:27:19,430 doors and locks. 464 00:27:19,730 --> 00:27:24,150 Once you get in here, however, it is peaceful. 465 00:27:26,350 --> 00:27:30,350 Hello. Come on, Vicki. So good to meet you. Great to meet you as well. 466 00:27:30,610 --> 00:27:34,850 For the program here, we pull animals from our county shelter where the 467 00:27:34,850 --> 00:27:37,490 euthanasia rate has been as high as 98%. 468 00:27:38,010 --> 00:27:43,010 The animals go on a two -month rotation, live with the men 24 -7 in the cells 469 00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:47,670 before they can be up for adoption. The inmates just make them so much more 470 00:27:47,670 --> 00:27:49,270 socialized and adoptable. 471 00:27:49,670 --> 00:27:50,670 Hi there. 472 00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:54,670 I'm John Pate. Good to meet you. Good to have you at our institution. 473 00:27:55,090 --> 00:27:57,810 This is going to be fantastic. Well, we have a wonderful program and can't wait 474 00:27:57,810 --> 00:27:58,810 for you to see it. 475 00:28:00,770 --> 00:28:01,770 Jackson, I'm Jeffery. 476 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,500 Jeffrey, good to meet you. I'm the program leader of the overall Meow Mate 477 00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:09,120 Mate program here at Allendale. This is our cat wing. 478 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,480 I cannot believe all these cats walking around in here, man. 479 00:28:15,740 --> 00:28:19,720 This is the most exciting thing I've ever seen in my life. I'm not kidding 480 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,180 Cats everywhere. 481 00:28:21,380 --> 00:28:26,160 And they're just wandering around, no fear, all social. 482 00:28:26,380 --> 00:28:30,100 It was beyond my wildest dreams. What's this cat's name? 483 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,340 Missy, hi, babe. 484 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,860 I usually, I go to houses cats aren't this social, man. They're just like 485 00:28:36,860 --> 00:28:38,680 the bed, on top of the fridge. 486 00:28:39,060 --> 00:28:41,340 In 2013, we brought two cats. 487 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,740 And after about a month, the warden called me and said, when are you 488 00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:50,680 more? And it's just grown each year. Now we have about 25 to 30 cats here on a 489 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,680 regular basis. 490 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,620 Hey, who's this? 491 00:28:54,380 --> 00:28:55,380 Hi, babe. 492 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,840 Who are you? 493 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,320 Hi, how are you, man? 494 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,600 There's no way to translate what I'm seeing in the state of South Carolina. 495 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,840 These inmates' faces have to be blurred. But the faces are beaming. This feeling 496 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:15,000 of pride coming off of all these men. They are proud of their cats, their 497 00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:16,240 their role in things. 498 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,120 Immediately I know that I'm in for something good here. When you think 499 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,280 fact that every single one of these cats would probably be dead because you had 500 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,260 a 98 % kill rate at the shelter. 501 00:29:25,460 --> 00:29:26,960 Not just the cats. 502 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,780 The cats, the dogs, and a lot of these men. 503 00:29:29,980 --> 00:29:33,000 I mean, we're not just saving four -legged lives here. We're saving two 504 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,800 lives. Honestly, that part is clearly one of the best things. 505 00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:43,400 Having to dedicate yourself to this animal, and this animal relying on you, 506 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,200 know, there's a shift inside of you where you begin to feel empathy. 507 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:52,320 Nothing has changed me or had the effect on me that caring for these animals has 508 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,520 had. So this is a typical cat room. Okay. 509 00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:59,620 We've got our two bunks, desk, two lockers, the shelf. 510 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,840 We've got the litter box that you saw when you came in. And then her food and 511 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,100 litter dish is right there under the locker. She probably pushes it around a 512 00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:11,300 good bit. Well, when you think about the fact that I work with human families 513 00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:15,960 who don't even want a litter box in their living room, I don't want to look 514 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:21,260 it, I can't stand litter boxes. These guys have a litter box this close to 515 00:30:21,260 --> 00:30:25,220 bed. They've got food stacked up because they love these cats. 516 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,060 A little lesson to be learned there. 517 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,000 Each cat belongs to a certain room. Is that how it goes? Well, for a period of 518 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,220 time. Right. 519 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,680 We do a rotation. 520 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,800 They either rotate out or they rotate from one room to another. 521 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,940 Because if we have one for two days, we're attached. 522 00:30:41,820 --> 00:30:46,080 I've been incarcerated since I was 17 years old. An environment where the only 523 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,660 thing I needed to look out for is self. 524 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:53,340 So to put everything that I want to do to the side and say, I have to focus on 525 00:30:53,340 --> 00:30:55,100 this four -ounce kitten. 526 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,960 It melts a lot of the selfishness out of guys. 527 00:30:59,460 --> 00:31:00,500 This is our library. 528 00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:05,180 We have a lot of dog training, dog psychology, different types of dogs. 529 00:31:05,180 --> 00:31:07,280 them are dogs. You know what? Let's just stop right there. 530 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:14,140 We really do need some cat books here. Just let it be said that there will be 531 00:31:14,140 --> 00:31:16,700 cat books at Allendale very soon. 532 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,200 Lots of cat books. 533 00:31:18,570 --> 00:31:21,470 And Jackson, over in this corner, we have a microscope. 534 00:31:21,790 --> 00:31:24,930 Absolutely. We do fecal examinations and we do ear cytology. 535 00:31:25,170 --> 00:31:29,350 What the? So anytime we're concerned about bowel movement of an animal, we 536 00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:33,930 get a sample, put it on the microscope. We can diagnose whipworms, coccidia, 537 00:31:33,950 --> 00:31:35,570 which is some really nasty stuff, you know. 538 00:31:35,870 --> 00:31:39,830 None of my clients know how to put poop under a microscope and figure out what's 539 00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:41,130 in there. Are you kidding? It's incredible. 540 00:31:41,390 --> 00:31:46,050 I mean, the whole system that's in place, when you consider that it is a 541 00:31:46,050 --> 00:31:49,620 within a correctional institution, is bananas. 542 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,760 One of the leaders in our program. 543 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,640 I was terrified of cats. 544 00:31:54,020 --> 00:31:58,940 When I started working here, I was my first cat. I got bit the first time, but 545 00:31:58,940 --> 00:32:02,220 eventually got over it, and now I'm clipping cat nails and cleaning their 546 00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:04,240 and giving them baths sometimes if they need it. 547 00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:09,040 You're the first person I've ever known to go from being petrified of cats to 548 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,920 giving them a bath. So congratulations. 549 00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:16,920 This gentleman was afraid of cats. He comes here. He faces his fear. The fact 550 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,940 that this is being highlighted in such an incredible way is mind -blowing to 551 00:32:22,380 --> 00:32:27,080 If I have a life sentence, the possibility of me getting out is 552 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:33,080 But if I have to spend the rest of my life taking care of these dogs and cats, 553 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,080 mean, that's all right with me. 554 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,860 Vicki's work doesn't stop at Meow Mates. There's also Mutt Mates. We have 25 555 00:32:40,860 --> 00:32:46,160 dogs. Of course, I'm known as the cat guy, obviously, but I love dogs. I have 556 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,880 dogs, and I'm excited to see some dogs here, for sure. 557 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,400 That's a good girl. 558 00:32:50,820 --> 00:32:51,820 Ready. Sit. 559 00:32:52,540 --> 00:32:53,540 Feet. 560 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,960 Yes. Hold. Yes. Now. 561 00:32:56,780 --> 00:32:58,160 That's it. That a boy. Yes. 562 00:32:58,420 --> 00:32:59,399 Yeah, baby. 563 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,560 That is the most adoptable dog on the planet. 564 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,540 To date, we've had over 300 animals pass through these gates. 565 00:33:06,990 --> 00:33:11,290 most of which have been adopted directly from the prison, and it's been very 566 00:33:11,290 --> 00:33:16,030 successful. It's a win -win for both our rescue group and the men here in 567 00:33:16,030 --> 00:33:20,130 prison. This is our memorial garden for one of our early cats in the program, 568 00:33:20,510 --> 00:33:24,870 Gypsy. Gypsy came into the center. She was not in very good shape at all. She 569 00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:29,790 started to come around, and a guy that previously was a pretty violent felon in 570 00:33:29,790 --> 00:33:33,690 here, and Gypsy helped him as he helped her, really turned his wife around. 571 00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:37,620 Unfortunately, she had a turn for the worse and didn't come back around. 572 00:33:37,820 --> 00:33:40,860 So this is our memorial garden for little gypsies. That's so sweet. 573 00:33:41,460 --> 00:33:46,920 If not for the second chance afforded these animals by this program, every 574 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,960 single one of them would be euthanized. And without the second chance afforded 575 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,060 the men in our prisons, we've wasted all of their lives. 576 00:33:55,660 --> 00:33:57,820 Whoever you are, you deserve a second chance. 577 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,160 I look at her like I do me. 578 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,640 I went through a rough time on the streets. I've been through a lot of 579 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,680 and abused. 580 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,199 She's been abused. 581 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,679 So we relate. 582 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,500 And now I'm helping her get over her abuse and she's helping me get over 583 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:20,659 Amen. It is essential that programs like this get a very bright light shined on 584 00:34:20,659 --> 00:34:25,139 them. And when you're talking about a county where the kill rate at the 585 00:34:25,139 --> 00:34:30,600 was nearly 100%, it is one of the most perfect examples I've ever seen of 586 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,600 innovative thought. 587 00:34:31,929 --> 00:34:36,850 putting your money where your mouth is, and the results being beyond anybody's 588 00:34:36,850 --> 00:34:37,589 wildest dreams. 589 00:34:37,590 --> 00:34:43,030 Just looking at their faces, the absolute pride and love that they have 590 00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:44,650 these animals is undeniable. 591 00:34:45,070 --> 00:34:50,429 We wanted Jackson to come and see this to open the minds of people, not only 592 00:34:50,429 --> 00:34:56,510 about a partnership such as this, but also the good side of these men that are 593 00:34:56,510 --> 00:34:58,610 here. They've done an incredible job. 594 00:34:59,070 --> 00:35:01,490 Many of them have never loved anything before. 595 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,840 Or felt loved. 596 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,100 I've had men tell me that they get off their medicine that they were having to 597 00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:08,900 take. They don't have to. That's incredible. 598 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,580 Hundreds of men have gone through this program and become better people. 599 00:35:12,860 --> 00:35:16,940 I don't usually gush like this. I'm so absolutely overwhelmed. 600 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,060 You guys have saved 300 lives plus. 601 00:35:20,340 --> 00:35:21,620 Those are just the animals. 602 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:27,560 Yes, we're just counting. I feel so blessed to be in this position to do 603 00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:29,620 And so appreciative. 604 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:40,320 I wanted to make sure that I left you with just something. This is 605 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:46,020 food from our friends at Chewy .com. Well, thank you. You're very welcome. So 606 00:35:46,020 --> 00:35:50,860 grateful for that. It's an amazing story, and honestly, it's one that 607 00:35:50,860 --> 00:35:52,240 really should know about. Now they will. 608 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,480 You have an open invitation to return anytime you like. Hopefully, it'll be 609 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,500 under good circumstances. 610 00:35:57,740 --> 00:36:00,660 Either way, you're welcome. Either way, I'm welcome. 611 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,660 Thank you for everything that you're doing. What you're doing for these 612 00:36:04,660 --> 00:36:08,900 is beyond my ability to express. 613 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:15,040 Thank you. Take care, guys. There is a very strange adjustment that your mind 614 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,500 has to make while you're standing in a prison. 615 00:36:18,910 --> 00:36:24,110 You're in a space with a whole bunch of men who clearly have done something in 616 00:36:24,110 --> 00:36:27,950 their life to wind up here, but their interaction with these animals is so 617 00:36:27,950 --> 00:36:29,450 gentle and loving. 618 00:36:29,870 --> 00:36:34,110 I have seen so much care, so much innovation, so much passion. 619 00:36:34,370 --> 00:36:38,470 I swear I have been around the block and I haven't seen it many times in my 620 00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:39,930 life. It's amazing. 621 00:36:43,210 --> 00:36:46,610 Miles was peeing, what was it? About four to five times a day. Let's start 622 00:36:46,610 --> 00:36:48,230 taking a look at your video homework. 623 00:36:50,170 --> 00:36:51,170 Wait, what's this? 624 00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:52,750 Oh, that's Miles peeing on the wall. 625 00:36:53,150 --> 00:36:56,490 I am so worried that I'm going to be finding him a new home today. 626 00:37:11,980 --> 00:37:15,600 I'm back for my third visit with Alyssa and Kristen and their cat, Miles. 627 00:37:15,860 --> 00:37:19,560 The last time I was here, Miles had gone a long way to repairing his 628 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,980 relationship with the other cats in the house, but he was still very anxious and 629 00:37:22,980 --> 00:37:24,480 peeing all over the place. 630 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,060 Alyssa and Kristen were very much on the fence because they were concerned about 631 00:37:29,060 --> 00:37:34,180 their daughter, Lena, wondering, was this the right home for Miles? And I'm 632 00:37:34,180 --> 00:37:37,960 worried that I'm going to be finding him a new home today. The last time I was 633 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,380 here, Miles was peeing four times a day, something like that. Yeah. 634 00:37:41,770 --> 00:37:42,950 Has the peeing itself gone down? 635 00:37:43,230 --> 00:37:44,830 Definitely. Cool. 636 00:37:45,150 --> 00:37:47,610 I want to get into your video homework. 637 00:37:47,850 --> 00:37:48,850 Here we go. 638 00:37:49,850 --> 00:37:50,870 Who we got there? 639 00:37:51,710 --> 00:37:53,870 I don't recognize that cat. I don't even know that cat. 640 00:37:54,130 --> 00:37:59,690 That is a big, fat calico. There's no collar. Well fed, though. 641 00:38:00,130 --> 00:38:01,550 So where is this? 642 00:38:01,770 --> 00:38:03,250 That's right outside our bedroom. 643 00:38:03,690 --> 00:38:08,310 Right where he's peeing. There is a real threat outside the bedroom window where 644 00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:09,790 any cat will go nuts. 645 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,120 It's not just Miles. 646 00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:12,720 It's very common with all cats. 647 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,920 I can predict what's going to happen next. 648 00:38:15,140 --> 00:38:16,140 Let's take a look. 649 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,520 That's Miles peeing on the wall. 650 00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:22,460 That's basically the opposite side of where those animals are. 651 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,180 This is a big deal to him. So we're going to have to put something outside 652 00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:31,880 bedroom window that's a deterrent. We have to deter these animals away from 653 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:37,000 window. Puffing air or water will train these animals to maybe go on someone 654 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,859 else's yard. 655 00:38:37,860 --> 00:38:39,620 Was that recent or was it before meds? 656 00:38:39,980 --> 00:38:44,160 That was before med a week ago today. And then we added the medicine, and 657 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,640 are some days where there's no pee at all. 658 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:47,680 It's amazing. 659 00:38:47,780 --> 00:38:51,380 Yeah. So we know that this medication takes about four to six weeks to really 660 00:38:51,380 --> 00:38:52,680 hit maximum efficacy. 661 00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:57,240 And after a week, we're down to some days we don't have anything going on. 662 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,560 Yep. That goes really, really well. 663 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:07,720 Okay. Our new homework was to play with him any time we felt like he was going 664 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:08,698 to pee. 665 00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:11,000 And it seems to be working amazingly. 666 00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:14,960 We do have to pull out a toy and play with him like five times a night. 667 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,320 But, hey, that's better than pulling out the cleaner and the paper towel. 668 00:39:20,660 --> 00:39:21,660 Got that right. 669 00:39:22,260 --> 00:39:26,280 Here's the crew after a nice play session. 670 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:27,520 Play and eat. 671 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,340 Look where he is. 672 00:39:29,620 --> 00:39:35,540 Right in the middle of the room, nice and down like that. That tells me you 673 00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:36,479 good on the play. 674 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,480 Moving on. 675 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,840 noticing that at night Max and Maury were jumping in the bed with us, 676 00:39:41,860 --> 00:39:45,060 immediately faking their claim, and then when Miles would jump up on the bed, 677 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,740 they'd hiss, and it'd create a lot of tension. 678 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:54,340 So instead of giving the cats free roam of our bedroom at night, we do that 679 00:39:54,340 --> 00:39:57,100 during the day. That seems to be working really well. 680 00:39:57,380 --> 00:40:02,140 He hasn't been meowing to get out of the room, and he hasn't peed, though. 681 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,080 Nope. He's been sleeping through the night. Really well. 682 00:40:06,260 --> 00:40:07,260 All good things. 683 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:08,960 That's fantastic. 684 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:14,860 That kind of territorial juggling is going to happen. They're going to work 685 00:40:14,860 --> 00:40:17,260 out in there just like they worked it out in here. The one thing I would tell 686 00:40:17,260 --> 00:40:21,200 you guys to do, take play time, start dragging it into the room. Give them 687 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,960 activities in that room so they're not just looking at each other, they've got 688 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,960 something to do. 689 00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:29,240 You know, it's really hard to read this couple. I mean, Miles' progress has been 690 00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:30,480 steady this entire time. 691 00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:35,140 Hopefully it's enough to prove to Alyssa and Kristen that this rehoming thing is 692 00:40:35,140 --> 00:40:36,140 completely unnecessary. 693 00:40:36,670 --> 00:40:41,830 I would assume that you feel better at this moment, but I want to be able to 694 00:40:41,830 --> 00:40:45,150 walk away from here knowing that that place that you guys were at where you 695 00:40:45,150 --> 00:40:47,670 like, I think we may have to talk about rehoming him. 696 00:40:48,270 --> 00:40:49,270 Is he here to stay? 697 00:40:51,410 --> 00:40:52,410 Um... 698 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,080 I want to be able to walk away from here knowing that that place that you guys 699 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,660 were at, where you were like, I think we may have to talk about rehoming him. Is 700 00:41:07,660 --> 00:41:08,660 he here to stay? 701 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,540 Um, he's here to stay. 702 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:12,880 He's here to stay, yeah. 703 00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:15,840 Good. We definitely feel very positive change. 704 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,800 I love to see him interacting with Lena and rubbing against her. That's 705 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,380 fantastic. Miles is 100 % here to stay. 706 00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:26,020 Speaking of our boy, I want to take advantage of the fact that he's right 707 00:41:26,060 --> 00:41:28,300 You guys stay where you are. I'm going to hang with him for a minute. 708 00:41:29,870 --> 00:41:31,710 Come here, Miles, my love. Miles. 709 00:41:34,010 --> 00:41:35,690 I am so happy with you. 710 00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:38,850 Yes, my good boy. 711 00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:43,150 I definitely feel like I'm getting a little bit of feedback from Miles, a 712 00:41:43,150 --> 00:41:46,950 thank you, a little phew. He loves it when I'm petting him. I'm not just 713 00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:50,630 satisfied with where Miles is right now. I am absolutely giddy about his 714 00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:54,190 progress. Bye, guys. Bye. Take care of yourselves, okay? Thank you so much. 715 00:41:54,410 --> 00:41:57,050 Before Jackson, we felt so duck. 716 00:41:57,870 --> 00:42:02,950 And now we feel like we've got a handle on who Miles is, what his stressors are, 717 00:42:03,150 --> 00:42:06,810 and what we can do to help him. To be here where we are, it's like kind of 718 00:42:06,810 --> 00:42:10,050 amazing. All we feel is hope. We wouldn't have been able to do it without 719 00:42:10,050 --> 00:42:11,130 Jackson. We'll play. 720 00:42:11,710 --> 00:42:12,710 We'll play. 64143

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