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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,110 --> 00:00:02,770 When Bandit came into the house, it just went downhill. 2 00:00:03,770 --> 00:00:07,670 There would be fights, and then they started the pee war. 3 00:00:07,990 --> 00:00:09,570 Whoever pee -pees, she pees. 4 00:00:09,790 --> 00:00:13,330 We clean up pee, and then we turn around, and immediately there's pee 5 00:00:13,330 --> 00:00:15,150 else. It's just exasperating. 6 00:00:15,490 --> 00:00:18,990 Every part of this house has been touched by these cats, so you can see 7 00:00:19,410 --> 00:00:20,410 Wow. 8 00:00:20,650 --> 00:00:23,850 Gee whiz. That's a lot of plastic. 9 00:00:25,130 --> 00:00:28,330 We have a troublesome son, our little cat Bowie. 10 00:00:28,750 --> 00:00:32,870 he will act like he wants to be pet and he will turn on a dime and just attack 11 00:00:32,870 --> 00:00:39,190 you he's drawing blood with the kids bowie to hear the girl screaming away is 12 00:00:39,190 --> 00:00:44,730 horrible are you okay we can't trust him so you couldn't get me here what 13 00:00:44,730 --> 00:00:50,630 happens we get rid of bowie about a month ago i met a couple who told me 14 00:00:50,630 --> 00:00:54,710 much the most amazing story I think I've ever heard. Ziggy 100 % saved my life. 15 00:00:54,850 --> 00:00:58,030 Without him, I don't have a husband sitting next to me today. 16 00:00:58,730 --> 00:00:59,730 Whoa! 17 00:01:00,170 --> 00:01:02,270 Holy! I'm Jackson Galaxy. 18 00:01:02,490 --> 00:01:03,490 What the hell, man? 19 00:01:03,710 --> 00:01:08,510 The animal behavior that guardians call when they're dealing with a difficult 20 00:01:08,510 --> 00:01:11,430 cat. Sometimes I wish that I didn't have her. 21 00:01:11,670 --> 00:01:12,670 Damn. 22 00:01:13,010 --> 00:01:17,670 I'm out to prove that there is no such thing as a bad cat. Just a cat that 23 00:01:17,670 --> 00:01:18,770 my help. This is fun. 24 00:01:31,180 --> 00:01:35,360 My name's Jeanne, and this is my mom, Joanne, and she has a cat, Bandit, and I 25 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,740 have a cat, Gypsy Rose. 26 00:01:37,020 --> 00:01:41,480 After my husband passed, Bandit and I came to live with Jeanne. 27 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,880 When Bandit came into the house, it just went downhill. 28 00:01:45,940 --> 00:01:50,060 There would be fights, and then they started the plea war. 29 00:01:51,780 --> 00:01:54,940 Wherever he peed, she peed. I mean, there's not one place in my house that 30 00:01:54,940 --> 00:01:57,100 hasn't been touched. From the couches to the kitchen. 31 00:01:57,500 --> 00:02:01,620 Here's another spot where you can clearly see the pee. Our front room is 32 00:02:01,620 --> 00:02:05,380 torn up because the carpet was just peed on everywhere. It's just been chaotic. 33 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,479 Our counter space went from a full -size open kitchen to maybe a little square 34 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:13,000 footage of, you know, counter space because we have to constantly have 35 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:18,800 covered. It's a very big guilt on my part. I've seen her lovely house. 36 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,600 of looking like a home, it looks like we're covering everything. 37 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,080 Nothing looks inviting. 38 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,400 It's terrible. 39 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:28,540 Because of the peeing problem between Bandit and Gypsy, my mom and my 40 00:02:28,540 --> 00:02:31,480 relationship has changed, and we've become way distant. 41 00:02:31,820 --> 00:02:34,740 We end up yelling, screaming at each other, whose cat did it, whose cat 42 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,820 which doesn't matter. The point is that there's pee on my counter, and it's 43 00:02:37,820 --> 00:02:39,060 unsanitary, and it's disgusting. 44 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,980 We're constantly playing the blame game. I mean, that's horrible. 45 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,480 Jackson coming is our last hope because I feel like we've just hit the wall. 46 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,520 We're kind of like at the end of the line here, hanging on. 47 00:02:52,250 --> 00:02:55,750 We clean up pee, and then we turn around, and immediately there's pee 48 00:02:55,750 --> 00:02:59,350 else. It's just exasperating, and I don't know what to do. 49 00:03:12,250 --> 00:03:16,430 Hello. How are you? How are you? I'm good, man. How are you doing? Can you 50 00:03:16,430 --> 00:03:19,170 me a hug? You can give me a hug. How are you? 51 00:03:20,460 --> 00:03:21,460 Hi. This is my mother. 52 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:23,160 Joanne. This is my husband, David. 53 00:03:23,420 --> 00:03:27,780 Hi. David, Joanne. And Jeanne. Jeanne. Thank you for coming and welcome. 54 00:03:28,140 --> 00:03:31,620 Every part of the palace is in touch with cats. As you can see, plastic. 55 00:03:31,980 --> 00:03:32,980 Wow. 56 00:03:33,460 --> 00:03:35,020 Gee whiz. 57 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:36,460 That's a lot of plastic. 58 00:03:36,860 --> 00:03:40,420 This is, I mean, this is for real? This is every day? This is every day. Wow. 59 00:03:41,070 --> 00:03:48,010 I mean, on a scale of one to help me, this is really at an 11. When the entire 60 00:03:48,010 --> 00:03:52,150 kitchen is covered in plastic, you know you're walking into some problems. 61 00:03:52,470 --> 00:03:53,470 When did it start? 62 00:03:53,870 --> 00:03:58,590 How did it get this crazy? So it started when we started bringing bandits into 63 00:03:58,590 --> 00:04:01,530 the home. We had our cat, Gypsy Rose, who adopted us. 64 00:04:01,750 --> 00:04:03,250 Gypsy Rose was the first cat in the house? 65 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,400 And she was just great. She would pee in the potty pan or go outside, whatever. 66 00:04:07,580 --> 00:04:10,860 But when we started introducing bandits, because my dad was very sick, and 67 00:04:10,860 --> 00:04:14,220 especially once he passed, bringing my mom so late to live with us, we had to 68 00:04:14,220 --> 00:04:15,220 start bringing the cat in. 69 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:20,180 My dad was very sick with cancer. And after losing my dad, there came a point 70 00:04:20,180 --> 00:04:23,200 where, like, she just permanently was going to stay with us. And so right 71 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,960 she started to move in permanently, we started bringing in the cat. 72 00:04:26,180 --> 00:04:27,420 You lost your husband when? 73 00:04:28,220 --> 00:04:29,220 2015. 74 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:31,680 Bandits, that's who's left, right? 75 00:04:32,630 --> 00:04:37,630 Joanne has lost her husband, her home, and now it's just her and Bandit. She's 76 00:04:37,630 --> 00:04:42,230 hanging on to Bandit, and she's trying to hang on to her daughter and her son 77 00:04:42,230 --> 00:04:45,570 -in -law, and a semblance of a home life that she's lost. 78 00:04:46,210 --> 00:04:49,410 There's a lot of loss that's gone on here, and a lot to lose. 79 00:04:49,690 --> 00:04:53,170 So when they first laid eyes on each other, was it immediately game on? 80 00:04:53,430 --> 00:04:55,410 Gypsy became more aggressive. 81 00:04:56,290 --> 00:04:59,730 So now we have Gypsy who picks fights with Bandit. 82 00:05:02,580 --> 00:05:06,860 And peeing happened. Yes. Was Gypsy the one doing most of the peeing? It's been 83 00:05:06,860 --> 00:05:09,960 so hard to catch who's doing it. Oh, so we don't know. 84 00:05:10,260 --> 00:05:12,680 Right, and we wouldn't be able to see them because they're so fat. 85 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:16,520 How has this impacted you guys? 86 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:19,640 The relationship between me and my mom is not the same. No. 87 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,860 We've gone so long to be like this. 88 00:05:22,140 --> 00:05:25,100 I mean, I think that says a lot. That's how much I love the cats and the 89 00:05:25,100 --> 00:05:26,100 animals. Yeah. 90 00:05:26,390 --> 00:05:29,050 So we're really, we got backs against the wall. Yeah. 91 00:05:29,270 --> 00:05:34,010 You can't walk into this house without knowing there's some serious damage 92 00:05:34,010 --> 00:05:39,010 that's gone down. And that damage goes beyond the furniture and into the 93 00:05:39,070 --> 00:05:41,190 The humans are wrecked right now. 94 00:05:41,610 --> 00:05:42,910 Over there was carpet. 95 00:05:43,130 --> 00:05:45,730 We took up the old flooring. This was underneath. 96 00:05:46,010 --> 00:05:49,690 Right. This was underneath, yeah. What about that window sill? In fact, you can 97 00:05:49,690 --> 00:05:50,690 see that. 98 00:05:50,970 --> 00:05:56,230 It was hit so much that it's peeling up. So this was covered with a lot of 99 00:05:56,230 --> 00:05:59,810 sentimental items, a bunch of pictures. And so just to show you, I mean, the 100 00:05:59,810 --> 00:06:02,730 pee, this picture's ruined. I don't even think I can save it, redo it, or 101 00:06:02,730 --> 00:06:03,730 anything. This is all pee. 102 00:06:03,930 --> 00:06:06,350 So this room has been completely sacrificed. 103 00:06:06,750 --> 00:06:08,550 The floor, trash, gone. 104 00:06:08,970 --> 00:06:11,990 All the pictures that were in the windowsill and the frames, gone. 105 00:06:12,370 --> 00:06:14,990 Honestly, I don't think this family can take it anymore. 106 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:16,500 They're done. 107 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,040 Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to grab my little guitar case. 108 00:06:19,340 --> 00:06:23,460 I'm going to go do a little exploring by myself, try to hang with the cats a 109 00:06:23,460 --> 00:06:27,800 little bit. Now I need to gauge where these cats' challenge lines are in 110 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,300 to one another. So what I'm going to do is bring a toy into the situation and 111 00:06:32,300 --> 00:06:34,720 see if they compete over any of those resources. 112 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:36,800 What about you, buddy? 113 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,520 Best case scenario, I've got two cats playing with a toy. Worst case scenario, 114 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,820 start playing with a toy. The toy lands in the middle of the two of them, and 115 00:06:46,820 --> 00:06:48,180 bang, we've got a fight. 116 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:50,400 Now what happens? 117 00:06:51,140 --> 00:06:55,080 If a fight breaks out with this much challenge presented to them, we're in a 118 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,080 place right now. 119 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,220 Body language -wise, I'm not seeing anything that is concerning me 120 00:07:09,620 --> 00:07:11,000 You guys hate each other, right? 121 00:07:11,260 --> 00:07:14,240 Like, knock down, drag out. Like, hate each other. 122 00:07:14,900 --> 00:07:15,900 Right? 123 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,580 You would think, looking at the patterns of urine all over this house, that it 124 00:07:21,580 --> 00:07:24,120 is a pissing war every single day. 125 00:07:24,340 --> 00:07:30,480 Well, if that is the case, the war is not against each other. So, something is 126 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,560 not right around here. 127 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:34,700 Oh my God, look at that. 128 00:07:35,150 --> 00:07:38,210 Nothing like pee on something electric. 129 00:07:39,550 --> 00:07:40,990 But we have an open window. 130 00:07:41,530 --> 00:07:42,710 Maybe cat's outside. 131 00:07:43,750 --> 00:07:47,370 No pee off to the side. Oh, spoke too soon. 132 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:52,230 Right now, I don't know what's causing the peeing. There are some major pieces 133 00:07:52,230 --> 00:07:54,470 missing to this story, and I've got to ask the family. 134 00:07:54,910 --> 00:07:58,730 Okay, guys, so I need some answers to some questions. 135 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,900 Okay, guys, so I need some answers to some questions. 136 00:08:11,140 --> 00:08:15,100 So I just walked around the house, met up with both cats. 137 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,960 These cats are not mortal enemies. I think we're seeing redirected aggression 138 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,180 based on a problem outside the house. 139 00:08:21,460 --> 00:08:26,920 So do we have an issue with feral cats in the area? Yes. Yes, that we do. Wow, 140 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,300 you didn't even hesitate there. 141 00:08:29,830 --> 00:08:34,150 One morning, I had all the cats all fed and everything, and the feral cat poked 142 00:08:34,150 --> 00:08:38,690 its head inside the window, and then it saw me, and then... What? 143 00:08:39,010 --> 00:08:43,530 You got cats coming in the house, and you're letting that happen? When a feral 144 00:08:43,530 --> 00:08:47,090 cat from the neighborhood poking their head and saying, hey, can I have your 145 00:08:47,090 --> 00:08:50,810 dinner? We've got a problem. When was the last time this area got destroyed? 146 00:08:51,230 --> 00:08:52,230 About two weeks ago, right? 147 00:08:52,950 --> 00:08:58,140 Yeah. That's good information, right? So the house itself is not being destroyed 148 00:08:58,140 --> 00:09:02,540 in the same way that it was only a couple weeks ago. I really do believe 149 00:09:02,540 --> 00:09:05,900 a certain degree, Jeanne, you're living in this traumatic loop. 150 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:11,360 You are so used to this place being destroyed that you might not be present, 151 00:09:11,500 --> 00:09:13,760 right? That's what I needed to know. 152 00:09:14,020 --> 00:09:17,440 Up until now, this family has done everything they can to save their house. 153 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,220 it's time to give them some homework so they can start solving the problem. 154 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,440 The first challenge that we have... 155 00:09:22,910 --> 00:09:28,550 is to get you guys firmly in the present moment, in this moment, not what was 156 00:09:28,550 --> 00:09:32,450 happening last week or last month or what's going to happen tomorrow, but 157 00:09:32,450 --> 00:09:36,170 here, because we can't solve these problems without it. We have arguments 158 00:09:36,170 --> 00:09:40,530 on with these two cats, but I don't think it's about these two cats. I think 159 00:09:40,530 --> 00:09:43,050 there's something going on that's informing all of this chaos. 160 00:09:43,350 --> 00:09:48,190 So the first thing I want you guys to do is detective work to start recording 161 00:09:48,190 --> 00:09:53,010 incidences. So every time there's a peeing incident, Of course, you're going 162 00:09:53,010 --> 00:09:56,650 clean it up. And then I'm going to have you put some yellow tape, a little X, 163 00:09:56,810 --> 00:10:00,210 right in the spot that it happened. And then you'll have a piece of paper 164 00:10:00,210 --> 00:10:05,110 corresponding what you noticed. This happened at this time of day. It was 165 00:10:05,110 --> 00:10:06,290 cat. I think it was. 166 00:10:06,610 --> 00:10:08,570 The other way we gather information is surveillance. 167 00:10:08,890 --> 00:10:11,030 I'm going to leave you with a bunch of cameras. 168 00:10:11,390 --> 00:10:15,010 and we're going to get what's going on inside the house, right? I want to make 169 00:10:15,010 --> 00:10:19,670 sure that the countertops are gotten in the back and in the front of the house 170 00:10:19,670 --> 00:10:23,910 because we also have to figure out what's going on in the feral world as 171 00:10:24,110 --> 00:10:29,290 The next thing that we're going to do is called border building. If you've got 172 00:10:29,290 --> 00:10:34,740 cats coming into your house, I don't think you guys realize what a massive 173 00:10:34,740 --> 00:10:39,520 territorial transgression that is. For another cat to even poke their head into 174 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,200 this house, that will cause your cats to pee all over the house. So I want to 175 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,400 keep the feral cats away. 176 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,480 I want you to put humane deterrents outside. 177 00:10:47,150 --> 00:10:50,850 As far as I'm concerned, neither one of these cats feel safe, so we're going to 178 00:10:50,850 --> 00:10:55,450 put deterrents outside the house so that every time another cat comes up to the 179 00:10:55,450 --> 00:10:59,330 window or the doors, they get either air blown in their face or a little bit of 180 00:10:59,330 --> 00:11:03,030 water. Let me know if you have any issues over the next couple weeks, any 181 00:11:03,030 --> 00:11:04,450 crises. I want to know about it, okay? 182 00:11:04,930 --> 00:11:05,930 All right, guys. 183 00:11:06,190 --> 00:11:10,530 We're at a point where we fit the wall that this has to work. This has to work, 184 00:11:10,570 --> 00:11:11,710 us doing this together. 185 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,020 Because there are no other options for us at this point. Oh, yeah, Jackson can 186 00:11:16,020 --> 00:11:17,020 help us. 187 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,080 We're in trouble. 188 00:11:18,220 --> 00:11:20,040 Yeah, we're in big trouble. 189 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,660 Hi, I'm Shazia. Hi, my name's Stuart. 190 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,760 Shazia and I have been married for eight years. 191 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,340 And we have two daughters, Athena and Aurora. 192 00:11:33,860 --> 00:11:36,980 And probably a troublesome son, our little cat, Bowie. 193 00:11:38,380 --> 00:11:39,380 He's our challenge. 194 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,480 They love Bowie. The girls love Bowie. He's super cute. 195 00:11:42,900 --> 00:11:47,900 Bowie is a Devon Rex, but he will act like he wants to be pet, and he will 196 00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:52,480 on a dime and just bite you, attack you, scratch you, and so we can't trust him. 197 00:11:52,860 --> 00:11:53,860 Bowie, ow! 198 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,380 We're scared that he's going to really injure somebody. 199 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,020 Bowie! Typically, our girls are seen as his prey. 200 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,800 Bowie! Bowie! 201 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,700 I do not like it when Bowie scratches and bites us. 202 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:13,920 Bowie, stop it. I want my house to be open and friendly and loving. I feel 203 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,280 we're constantly living in terror. 204 00:12:18,580 --> 00:12:23,240 Bowie. I want Jackson to help Bowie because we want to keep him. We need 205 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,660 something done about this or it's time for change. 206 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,880 Hey. Hi. How are you? I'm Jackson. 207 00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:35,560 Shazia, welcome. Hey, nice to meet you. Come on in. 208 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,000 Thank you. Jackson, hey, I'm Stuart. 209 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,420 Good to meet you, man. 210 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,240 Well, tell me what's going on. 211 00:12:43,580 --> 00:12:45,200 We have two daughters. 212 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,460 Bowie has been biting them, attacking them. 213 00:12:48,700 --> 00:12:52,520 When you say attacking, only because that word always triggers a lot of 214 00:12:53,460 --> 00:12:55,040 Attacking is drawing blood. 215 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,440 I mean, so much as to draw actual blood maybe half a dozen times, he'll attack 216 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,440 them while they're asleep. 217 00:13:01,250 --> 00:13:05,690 He'll go into the room. If he sees toes or fingers or even a nose, he'll go in 218 00:13:05,690 --> 00:13:09,050 there. Listen, I've got a healthy amount of suspicion at this point in my career 219 00:13:09,050 --> 00:13:12,170 when people use the word attack so many times. 220 00:13:12,590 --> 00:13:14,270 Attack means play aggression. 221 00:13:14,610 --> 00:13:18,410 And randomly, it means there's a pattern that they just haven't discovered yet. 222 00:13:18,630 --> 00:13:21,470 There'll be certain times where he can be... Wait, what is that? Is that him? 223 00:13:21,710 --> 00:13:23,550 Yeah. What, is he in a room? 224 00:13:24,450 --> 00:13:25,449 Let him out. 225 00:13:25,450 --> 00:13:26,750 Okay. Yeah, man. 226 00:13:27,530 --> 00:13:29,210 Bowie! What's life without a cat? 227 00:13:30,170 --> 00:13:30,919 Come here. 228 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,560 Hi. Come on, Bowie. 229 00:13:33,180 --> 00:13:35,600 So we have a Devon wreck, yes? 230 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,140 Come here, please. 231 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:38,640 Hi. 232 00:13:43,060 --> 00:13:49,160 Now, you know, one thing I'm noticing while I'm just trying to hang is that 233 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,980 is kind of a toy he doesn't seem all that familiar with. 234 00:13:51,220 --> 00:13:56,800 We have so many toys. We've tried every toy. We've bought the laser. He does not 235 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:57,800 want to play with toys. 236 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,320 Shazia and Stuart, these guys are just exhausted. 237 00:14:01,820 --> 00:14:05,900 Shazia just seems depressed, where Stuart seems a little over it, a little 238 00:14:05,900 --> 00:14:09,480 angry. It's kind of an uncomfortable situation for me, that's for sure. 239 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,440 Okay, let me mess around just a little bit. 240 00:14:14,980 --> 00:14:18,220 Wow, you're like a solid rock of a cat, man. 241 00:14:18,740 --> 00:14:23,240 When he goes after somebody, any tip off at all. Every time the girls play with 242 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,160 him. The only cat that I consider truly aggressive is the cat. 243 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:32,440 who has a disorder of some kind. What I'm hearing about Bowie is that he gets 244 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,960 overly playful, and he doesn't know how to control himself. 245 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:36,880 That's a huge difference. 246 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,680 So Gresham and Bowie, pretty far apart. 247 00:14:40,940 --> 00:14:47,140 So you get him home, and what was your first sign that things were not good? 248 00:14:47,620 --> 00:14:51,580 I think he was good. Over the course of maybe the first month, the kids were 249 00:14:51,580 --> 00:14:55,720 playing with him a lot, and he was cuddly, he was tiny, and he loved the 250 00:14:57,210 --> 00:14:58,210 Perfect. 251 00:14:59,610 --> 00:15:00,610 Perfect? 252 00:15:01,610 --> 00:15:04,010 Yeah. Then something shifted. 253 00:15:04,530 --> 00:15:06,790 What can I say without getting in trouble? 254 00:15:07,070 --> 00:15:10,250 He's really great, he's really snuggly, and then something, we don't know if 255 00:15:10,250 --> 00:15:11,250 it's something we did. 256 00:15:11,430 --> 00:15:12,750 I hear it every day. 257 00:15:12,990 --> 00:15:14,250 No cat is perfect. 258 00:15:14,470 --> 00:15:17,910 You know, he's a year old, so that's, you know, he's a teenager. 259 00:15:18,390 --> 00:15:22,590 Aww. By the time a cat's around six months old, they start entering into 260 00:15:22,590 --> 00:15:26,390 teenage years, and teenagehood is when they start pushing buttons. 261 00:15:26,810 --> 00:15:31,470 Just like a human teenager, teenagehood is about testing boundaries, and Bowie's 262 00:15:31,470 --> 00:15:35,650 definitely doing that. So where are we at right now? You couldn't get me here. 263 00:15:35,730 --> 00:15:36,589 What happened? 264 00:15:36,590 --> 00:15:40,150 Never mind months or weeks. I think it's probably a matter of days until we get 265 00:15:40,150 --> 00:15:41,150 rid of Bowie. 266 00:15:48,470 --> 00:15:51,890 So where are we at right now? You couldn't get me here. What happened? 267 00:15:52,380 --> 00:15:55,820 Never mind months or weeks. I think it's probably a matter of days until we get 268 00:15:55,820 --> 00:15:56,820 rid of Bowie. 269 00:15:57,660 --> 00:16:00,840 That puts some pressure on. 270 00:16:01,060 --> 00:16:02,060 Stuart needs business. 271 00:16:02,420 --> 00:16:04,840 I got a feeling one more scratch, Bowie's out of here. 272 00:16:05,220 --> 00:16:08,400 I've been new to cats. I've never had one in the past. Shazia's had multiple, 273 00:16:08,540 --> 00:16:09,780 but to me it's kind of clear cut. 274 00:16:10,020 --> 00:16:13,220 So I've definitely heard a lot of information from Shazia and Stuart, but 275 00:16:13,220 --> 00:16:16,380 really want to hear it from the girls themselves and see what they can offer. 276 00:16:16,580 --> 00:16:20,940 So apparently your little cat brother is a bit of a problem, yeah? 277 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,580 Yeah. Do you play with him? Do you guys use toys and play with him? 278 00:16:24,940 --> 00:16:28,960 Let me see what you can do with him. I'll just stand up and kind of watch. 279 00:16:29,860 --> 00:16:31,800 Bowie, come on. 280 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:40,440 Abina picks up Bowie, cradles him like a baby, marches him down the hallway, and 281 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:41,500 gets scratched. 282 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:47,800 That's not random. That's not crazy cat behavior. That is just teenage cat math. 283 00:16:48,220 --> 00:16:51,620 Do you have video of anything that I can see? Yeah. 284 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,400 Okay. All right, show me what you're made of, buddy. 285 00:16:56,900 --> 00:16:58,200 Aurora, are you okay? 286 00:16:58,580 --> 00:17:05,020 He's so cute. You want to hug him and kiss him and snuggle him, but he bites 287 00:17:06,220 --> 00:17:08,240 Oh, my gosh, Bowie. Stop it. 288 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:09,440 Aw. 289 00:17:10,300 --> 00:17:11,300 Bowie. 290 00:17:11,699 --> 00:17:12,699 Poor thing. 291 00:17:12,900 --> 00:17:13,940 You keep getting beat up. 292 00:17:14,180 --> 00:17:16,800 I mean, I feel like I've got a pretty good grip on what's going on here, and 293 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:22,660 it's definitely not a holy terror named Bowie. I think he's just a really over 294 00:17:22,660 --> 00:17:26,819 -anxious teenager, and he needs to get some of his energy out. 295 00:17:27,060 --> 00:17:30,940 You know, the Devon Rex, they're a very energetic breed, and if you're not 296 00:17:30,940 --> 00:17:35,100 taking that energy and draining it out in a constructive way, you're asking for 297 00:17:35,100 --> 00:17:39,140 trouble. I've got to be, like, straight up with you guys at this point. If you 298 00:17:39,140 --> 00:17:44,480 send him to the shelter, with the stigma that he attacks kids. He's going to get 299 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:45,480 killed. 300 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:52,060 Period. The reality of where Bowie would go, we got to make it work. 301 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,180 Nobody's going to take a cat who's doing that. My gut is that we're not dealing 302 00:17:56,180 --> 00:17:58,180 with a crazy, unhinged cat. 303 00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:00,080 We're dealing with a kitten. 304 00:18:00,420 --> 00:18:07,320 What he's doing with the kids, those are his siblings right now. He goes 305 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,320 to them. 306 00:18:08,450 --> 00:18:10,370 Everything that I'm seeing, it's all play. 307 00:18:10,630 --> 00:18:12,170 Cats are energetic balloons. 308 00:18:12,430 --> 00:18:16,770 The energy that goes in them during the day has got to find a way out. I mean, 309 00:18:16,790 --> 00:18:18,770 not so much differently from kids. 310 00:18:18,970 --> 00:18:23,330 Energy in means energy has to come out. Really important that we start to 311 00:18:23,330 --> 00:18:28,010 establish what I call the three R's. We're going to have routines in his 312 00:18:28,330 --> 00:18:31,390 As routines are repeated every day, they become rituals. 313 00:18:32,050 --> 00:18:35,950 Rituals become the rhythm of his life. So it's routine, ritual, rhythm. 314 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,540 Like the kids, you wake up in the morning and you have routines. The same 315 00:18:40,540 --> 00:18:42,080 approach needs to go into Bowie. 316 00:18:42,460 --> 00:18:47,880 Play with Bowie is hands down the most important thing that you guys can do 317 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,700 him. He needs to be able to chase. 318 00:18:49,940 --> 00:18:52,100 He needs to be able to hunt and catch and kill. 319 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:55,400 And then once he's done that, boom, feeding time. 320 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:02,180 So the next great thing in terms of releasing his energy is catification, 321 00:19:02,180 --> 00:19:06,940 is... designing a little bit more places where he can go up and watch the girls. 322 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,280 So he's not competing for floor space with them. And the second thing is he 323 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,460 to see what's going on in the world from a safe distance. 324 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,780 Shazia and Stuart have got to commit to the long haul here. Quick fixes are not 325 00:19:20,780 --> 00:19:24,940 going to happen with this kitten, and I don't know if they will. I'll see you in 326 00:19:24,940 --> 00:19:28,100 a few weeks' time, and call me if you need me. All right, bye. 327 00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:35,550 There's pee on my counter, and it's disgusting. 328 00:19:40,650 --> 00:19:45,030 I'm here for my second visit with the cats Gypsy Rose and Bandit and their 329 00:19:45,030 --> 00:19:48,870 guardians. The last time I was here, these two cats were engaged in an epic 330 00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:53,550 peeing war, resulting in this family living surrounded in plastic. I've given 331 00:19:53,550 --> 00:19:57,610 them some hardcore homework. Hopefully they've dug in here, and among other 332 00:19:57,610 --> 00:20:01,450 things, they're living surrounded in the present moment, and we're going to have 333 00:20:01,450 --> 00:20:02,690 a better grip on the problem. 334 00:20:03,980 --> 00:20:05,900 Hello! Welcome back. 335 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,240 Good to see you. 336 00:20:07,340 --> 00:20:10,640 Welcome back in here today. My heart just dropped. 337 00:20:10,900 --> 00:20:13,160 I'm seeing hate X's everywhere. 338 00:20:13,580 --> 00:20:17,100 I mean, I honestly feel like nothing is going right in this house. 339 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,320 Where's David today? 340 00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:19,479 So he's working. 341 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,360 Okay. Before we start, how are you guys feeling? 342 00:20:22,700 --> 00:20:25,880 I think we still feel we're a little stuck, only because it's still 343 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,580 Our big thing between last time and this time was not necessarily curing it. 344 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,400 It was about making sure that we were knowing the difference between what we 345 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,060 fear is going to happen and what is actually happening, you know? Jan is 346 00:20:38,060 --> 00:20:42,920 notorious for projecting her past trauma onto the present moment. And that's why 347 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,860 we got video homework. So now it's time to take a look at that. This is what we 348 00:20:45,860 --> 00:20:48,900 have to wake up to many times. And it's just very, very frustrating. 349 00:20:49,340 --> 00:20:56,160 And then I let him in and he came right over here again. 350 00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:02,780 That's an important piece of detective work because you guys are under the 351 00:21:02,780 --> 00:21:08,500 impression that letting him out is actually going to lessen the urge to 352 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:11,860 the detective work said that the second he came back in. 353 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,300 Yes, and that happens quite a bit. That's really important to remember. 354 00:21:16,300 --> 00:21:18,060 no reason for this cat to be going outside. 355 00:21:19,020 --> 00:21:22,280 I'm going to leave it up to the family. I can't put down a hard and fast rule 356 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,540 around here about the indoor -outdoor thing, but they have to understand there 357 00:21:25,540 --> 00:21:26,540 is a cause and effect. 358 00:21:26,740 --> 00:21:30,120 He's letting you know there's something outside that is threatening me to the 359 00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:33,640 point where I have to put down a marker saying, hey, I own this. 360 00:21:34,380 --> 00:21:38,540 So we're putting cameras out outside the house, and here you guys are setting up 361 00:21:38,540 --> 00:21:39,540 the deterrence in the backyard. 362 00:21:40,220 --> 00:21:41,220 Who's that? 363 00:21:41,740 --> 00:21:43,680 That is that calico stray cat. 364 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,440 Where is that? So that's this hallway outside where you guys locked in. Where 365 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,239 the front door is? 366 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,600 Ah, ah, ah, ah. On that side. 367 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:52,520 So 368 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:59,580 we're 369 00:21:59,580 --> 00:22:01,260 putting cameras out outside the house. 370 00:22:01,540 --> 00:22:05,000 Who's that? That is that calico stray cat. 371 00:22:05,460 --> 00:22:08,440 Now, do you guys know if the calico's been trapped and neutered yet? 372 00:22:08,660 --> 00:22:10,140 Yes. Okay, now, that's great. 373 00:22:10,420 --> 00:22:11,700 Ah, ah, ah, ah. 374 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:12,909 Now, look. 375 00:22:12,910 --> 00:22:18,410 Going right, that's your door, that sliding glass door. Now, let's go back 376 00:22:18,410 --> 00:22:20,650 for a second because she's not done yet. Hanging out. 377 00:22:21,710 --> 00:22:23,390 Oh, she got three. 378 00:22:24,190 --> 00:22:25,190 Wow. 379 00:22:25,930 --> 00:22:29,830 Listen, nobody loves cats more than Jackson Galaxy loves cats. 380 00:22:30,510 --> 00:22:34,490 That said, I am so glad that we're securing the borders in this house. I 381 00:22:34,490 --> 00:22:39,290 proof that our water deterrent totally scared off this calico. I feel pretty 382 00:22:39,290 --> 00:22:42,810 secure that it's trained her for the most part, and she's not going to come 383 00:22:42,810 --> 00:22:43,810 to this one area. 384 00:22:44,010 --> 00:22:47,990 So now we can move these deterrents around the house. We know now that we 385 00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:50,850 have a whole lot of deterrent out front, but worked out back, man. 386 00:22:51,670 --> 00:22:52,670 Worked out back. 387 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,960 Very good. All right. I've got all the information I'm going to get from video. 388 00:22:56,120 --> 00:23:00,000 Now I'm looking around and seeing plenty of X's around the house. There's a bit 389 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,220 too many of them, but it's time to start exploring them and see what they have 390 00:23:03,220 --> 00:23:03,939 to tell us. 391 00:23:03,940 --> 00:23:05,600 Any P in here? Okay, yeah. 392 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,300 So Gypsy came in here one day, and then I shooed her out, and then I turned my 393 00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:13,100 back on her, and then sure enough, I saw Bandit come from here and walked away. 394 00:23:13,220 --> 00:23:17,100 So I came over here, and I touched it, and it was wet, and I could smell pee. 395 00:23:17,300 --> 00:23:22,100 So my assumption was, was it Bandit then peeing because Gypsy was here? So I 396 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:25,820 don't know. I mean, look, we have a sliding glass door right here. 397 00:23:26,460 --> 00:23:30,860 Easily, in the middle of the night, Calico could be right here. She walks 398 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,520 The other one's like, mm -mm -mm, and they mark all. 399 00:23:35,130 --> 00:23:40,130 Of the panic signs, all of the red flags being sent up by these cats are because 400 00:23:40,130 --> 00:23:41,490 of what's going on outside these walls. 401 00:23:41,730 --> 00:23:43,770 That calico is ruining everyone's life here. 402 00:23:44,090 --> 00:23:45,090 Oh, my gosh. 403 00:23:45,270 --> 00:23:50,010 This was going to be a hard one for me. As you can see, so we have markings here 404 00:23:50,010 --> 00:23:50,789 that's all pee. 405 00:23:50,790 --> 00:23:52,430 This one here is the one that's a bandit. 406 00:23:52,690 --> 00:23:54,090 There's a whole puddle of pee. 407 00:23:54,430 --> 00:23:57,690 It's just frustrating because we've cleaned, we thought we found it, and 408 00:23:57,690 --> 00:23:58,730 there happens to be more. 409 00:23:59,130 --> 00:24:02,830 No, but we're still about almost a week out from the last. 410 00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:09,110 peeing in this room so now again we're going from from what i understand every 411 00:24:09,110 --> 00:24:14,610 day multiple times a day things are getting hit we're down to not all the 412 00:24:14,610 --> 00:24:16,450 it's slowing down guys 413 00:24:17,649 --> 00:24:24,390 Jan, please, please, Jan, please be present with me. This is crazy. I 414 00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:27,610 know, and I'm trying. I'm trying. Try harder. I'm trying. 415 00:24:28,010 --> 00:24:30,210 Try harder because this is amazing. 416 00:24:30,410 --> 00:24:33,850 I mean, I know, I know, I know, I know we still got pee going on, but it's 417 00:24:33,850 --> 00:24:34,850 getting better in here. It is getting better. 418 00:24:35,050 --> 00:24:38,110 No, you're right, it is. Say it again. It is getting better. 419 00:24:38,970 --> 00:24:42,490 All right, let's get down to some homework with this family. Now, once 420 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,740 I don't know what I got to do to get Gian to live in this moment because if 421 00:24:47,740 --> 00:24:52,060 doesn't stay present, none of this works. Things have definitely changed 422 00:24:52,060 --> 00:24:56,700 here. There's a whole lot less pee than there was the first time I was here. 423 00:24:56,860 --> 00:25:01,740 Now, if something hasn't been peed on in two weeks, we need to take the plastic 424 00:25:01,740 --> 00:25:06,640 off. So if something hasn't been peed on in two weeks, stand up. Let's go. 425 00:25:08,110 --> 00:25:10,110 Joanne, can I please have your hand? 426 00:25:10,350 --> 00:25:11,149 That's true. 427 00:25:11,150 --> 00:25:12,049 Let's do it. 428 00:25:12,050 --> 00:25:14,390 Come on. We're not even talking about it. 429 00:25:14,770 --> 00:25:16,710 It's been two weeks off. 430 00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:17,729 Come on. 431 00:25:17,730 --> 00:25:18,730 Let's go. 432 00:25:18,810 --> 00:25:19,810 Bye -bye. 433 00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:22,950 That really is giving me anxiety to think that that plastic's going to have 434 00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:24,550 come off and I'm going to have to trust those cats. 435 00:25:24,750 --> 00:25:26,010 That's going to be my biggest challenge. 436 00:25:26,290 --> 00:25:28,790 Our surveillance just kicked butt. 437 00:25:29,010 --> 00:25:30,590 We got great information. 438 00:25:30,970 --> 00:25:35,770 Not only that, we also saw in the video and the surveillance that the deterrents 439 00:25:35,770 --> 00:25:36,770 are working. 440 00:25:36,830 --> 00:25:41,670 And earlier today, I walked around the house and I identified outside border 441 00:25:41,670 --> 00:25:42,670 soft zones. 442 00:25:42,690 --> 00:25:46,250 So you're going to take the deterrents that are in the back and move them to 443 00:25:46,250 --> 00:25:50,070 where I asked you to move them. Remember, they're training tools. Once 444 00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:53,210 cat's been sprayed a few times, they're going to take the hint and move on. My 445 00:25:53,210 --> 00:25:57,650 perimeter walk around this house showed me there's still open border areas. 446 00:25:57,830 --> 00:26:01,610 Let's seal up that border. I got white tape on the ground that tells you where 447 00:26:01,610 --> 00:26:02,690 those deterrents have to go. 448 00:26:02,970 --> 00:26:04,610 Lock it down, folks. Fort Knox. 449 00:26:05,150 --> 00:26:09,130 If somebody pees someplace where there's not plastic, don't throw the plastic 450 00:26:09,130 --> 00:26:13,510 up. Before we fall back into these old habits, we just clean up and move on, 451 00:26:13,630 --> 00:26:19,270 okay? I think for me, it's a matter of trusting Jackson. 452 00:26:19,550 --> 00:26:24,030 I asked him to come into my home to help us, and I need to trust that. I need to 453 00:26:24,030 --> 00:26:25,690 trust him. Thank you. See you guys soon. 454 00:26:25,930 --> 00:26:27,490 Okay. Take care. Bye -bye. 455 00:26:36,980 --> 00:26:41,160 Today, I'm here in Hackensack, New Jersey to meet up with Justin and Aaron 456 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,500 their cat Ziggy. And this cat has done something pretty special. Suffice it to 457 00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:49,080 say that Justin wouldn't be here to tell me a story if it weren't for Ziggy. 458 00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:51,720 Hi, buddy! This is Ziggy. Hello! 459 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,500 My name is Aaron. 460 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,500 I'm Justin. My cat Ziggy saved my life. 461 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,800 I was never a cat person. 462 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,620 Can't imagine my life now without a cat. 463 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,710 I... I suffered a pulmonary embolism back in February. 464 00:27:07,570 --> 00:27:11,710 Aaron had gone to sleep. As I started walking through the apartment, I was 465 00:27:11,710 --> 00:27:14,330 getting really short of breath just walking from here to here. 466 00:27:15,670 --> 00:27:16,529 That's it. 467 00:27:16,530 --> 00:27:18,110 I blank out from there. 468 00:27:19,410 --> 00:27:23,330 The next thing I remember, I'm waking up on the floor to Ziggy jumping on my 469 00:27:23,330 --> 00:27:24,550 chest. Here? 470 00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:29,650 Yeah. Jumping. And I open my eyes, and here he is. He's jumping on me. And 471 00:27:29,650 --> 00:27:31,350 you're saying this happened like four or five times? 472 00:27:31,550 --> 00:27:32,550 Yeah. 473 00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:35,870 Jumping on someone's chest one time when they're passed out on the floor, that 474 00:27:35,870 --> 00:27:39,470 can be explained away. But five times? There's no coincidence. 475 00:27:39,930 --> 00:27:42,110 Ziggy was trying to revive Justin. 476 00:27:42,370 --> 00:27:46,490 Period. He started to lick my face and my eyelids, and I knew something was 477 00:27:46,490 --> 00:27:52,770 really wrong. That's when I literally, like, I used this to get to my feet, and 478 00:27:52,770 --> 00:27:56,370 that's when it hit me. What's happening in here at the moment? 479 00:27:56,610 --> 00:27:59,610 Part of the clot had passed through his heart. 480 00:28:00,010 --> 00:28:02,350 causing him to go into cardiac arrest. 481 00:28:02,850 --> 00:28:06,770 That's why now you can't breathe. Now I can't even breathe. I'm gasping for 482 00:28:06,770 --> 00:28:12,350 breath. I'm thinking to myself, I can't say my wife's name to get her attention. 483 00:28:12,610 --> 00:28:16,770 Oh, my God, this is killing me. Ziggy followed me to the bedroom. He beat me 484 00:28:16,770 --> 00:28:17,770 the door. 485 00:28:18,010 --> 00:28:19,150 It was terrifying. 486 00:28:19,530 --> 00:28:22,990 And I looked right at the doorknob, and I looked down at Ziggy, and I said, is 487 00:28:22,990 --> 00:28:27,450 there anything that you've got? If there's, like, something you can do for 488 00:28:27,470 --> 00:28:28,610 buddy, please do it now. 489 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,380 And I just remember reaching out for that bedroom door. Everything goes blank 490 00:28:34,380 --> 00:28:35,380 after that. 491 00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:41,800 Justin must have had enough strength to turn the doorknob. And then Ziggy jumps 492 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,800 on the bed. 493 00:28:42,990 --> 00:28:48,470 Licked my face, meowing, basically really, like, aggressively to get me 494 00:28:48,690 --> 00:28:50,710 He was, like, wobbly. 495 00:28:50,950 --> 00:28:52,630 He couldn't breathe. He couldn't speak. 496 00:28:53,030 --> 00:28:54,990 He had no color to him whatsoever. 497 00:28:55,270 --> 00:29:00,450 He was grayer than a sweatshirt. And I just remember he gave me one look before 498 00:29:00,450 --> 00:29:04,650 he went out, and he gave me this look, and his eyes were just, like, bulging 499 00:29:04,650 --> 00:29:07,630 of his head because he couldn't breathe, and he was so frightened. 500 00:29:07,950 --> 00:29:10,610 I woke up in a panic, scared for his life. 501 00:29:11,180 --> 00:29:12,180 Called 911. 502 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,140 I was petrified. We rushed right over to the hospital. 503 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,660 Justin's condition when he was admitted was very severe, and he definitely could 504 00:29:20,660 --> 00:29:23,760 have died. It was probably about a 50 -50 chance that we were going to get to 505 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,599 this in time. 506 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,260 The way the cat had intervened to help get him the care that he needed, that 507 00:29:28,260 --> 00:29:29,960 gave Justin one of his nine lives. 508 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,500 It is an incredible story, the idea that Ziggy could be that intuitive. 509 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:40,520 For Ziggy to know that there was... Trouble afoot, and that he could solve 510 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,140 jumping on Justin's chest, goes beyond what any of us can explain. 511 00:29:45,460 --> 00:29:49,700 We adopted him about five years ago from a pretty rough situation. 512 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,160 After rescuing him, we ended up volunteering for the rescue. 513 00:29:53,940 --> 00:29:59,580 I've become very involved in all these different cat initiatives, and I'm 514 00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:04,280 that Ziggy's story can change the mind of one person and adopt. 515 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,660 I'll sit up again in a minute, I promise. 516 00:30:07,630 --> 00:30:08,630 This is fun. 517 00:30:08,730 --> 00:30:13,230 What else could you call Ziggy besides a cat from heaven? Take care, okay? Bye. 518 00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:14,510 Bye. 519 00:30:14,910 --> 00:30:19,170 I mean, sometimes you hear a story that just restores your faith in everything. 520 00:30:19,770 --> 00:30:24,070 Ziggy saves Justin's life. Justin and Aaron then go out and save hundreds and 521 00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:28,170 hundreds of cats' lives. It's enough to warm your heart, which, you know, on a 522 00:30:28,170 --> 00:30:29,630 day like this, is a good thing. 523 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,280 I left this house last time a little nervous because what I saw was a cat who 524 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,280 thought was predictable and was just really overstimulated. 525 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,020 And the family saw him as being pretty evil. 526 00:30:52,180 --> 00:30:56,300 Now, if they did their homework, they would have had that sort of aha moment. 527 00:30:56,300 --> 00:30:58,380 know who this cat is, and I can work with him. 528 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,300 If they were looking for a quick fix, they're not going to get that moment, 529 00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:04,940 I don't know what I'm walking into right now. 530 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,840 How are we feeling? 531 00:31:11,980 --> 00:31:18,280 I feel like we've learned how to deal with him a lot better. I think it's been 532 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,460 easier to predict some of his behavior now. 533 00:31:21,660 --> 00:31:23,520 But he's still attacking the girls. 534 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:37,160 It's been easier to predict some of his behavior now. But he's still attacking 535 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,160 the girls. 536 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,380 Shazi with no time in telling me that. 537 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,160 He still attacks the kids. 538 00:31:42,540 --> 00:31:46,080 Bowie is not a random attacking cat. There's something going on here. 539 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,940 Tell him about what happened today. 540 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,760 Okay. What happened today? 541 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,740 He bit me on the knee and it hurt really bad. I almost cried. 542 00:31:53,980 --> 00:31:57,800 Do you remember what was going on when he did that? After we ate breakfast and 543 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,560 we were playing a lava game, I went in the hallway to go to the bathroom to 544 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,900 brush my teeth. What was the lava game? 545 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,400 It's a lava game where you're not allowed to touch the ground because the 546 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,400 is called lava. 547 00:32:07,540 --> 00:32:11,040 So. We're playing the lava game. Mom says brush your teeth. You go running 548 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,040 there to brush your teeth. 549 00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:13,860 Chomp. Is that when it happened? 550 00:32:14,060 --> 00:32:15,600 There it is. 551 00:32:16,490 --> 00:32:19,750 Don't step on the ground because it's made of hot lava accompanied by a lot of 552 00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:23,810 yelling and screaming. You then run into your room. There's Bowie ready to jump 553 00:32:23,810 --> 00:32:25,750 you. That is called cause and effect. 554 00:32:26,130 --> 00:32:29,570 And I'm still explaining to this family what that's all about. 555 00:32:29,790 --> 00:32:34,010 Kind of crazy. When she went to go brush her teeth at that point, she stopped 556 00:32:34,010 --> 00:32:38,390 buzzing up here. So that's where her energy's at. He just followed. 557 00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:39,950 He's with her. 558 00:32:40,010 --> 00:32:41,290 He treats them like siblings. 559 00:32:41,530 --> 00:32:45,430 As that energy is rising in the house, he's right there with it. He's just like 560 00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:48,930 another one of the kids, except that he's another one of the kids with claws 561 00:32:48,930 --> 00:32:52,510 teeth. The last time I was here, I gave them a lot of homework. I've got to see 562 00:32:52,510 --> 00:32:55,970 what these guys might be doing wrong, because by now we should have seen some 563 00:32:55,970 --> 00:32:56,970 improvement. 564 00:33:00,710 --> 00:33:01,710 Over it. See? 565 00:33:02,870 --> 00:33:03,870 Totally over it. 566 00:33:04,190 --> 00:33:05,190 Can I pet you? 567 00:33:06,210 --> 00:33:07,290 Please don't bite me. 568 00:33:08,050 --> 00:33:09,130 Please don't bite me. 569 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,560 We're not going to let this moment go. I'm not letting this moment go. 570 00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:15,820 You got him to the boil. 571 00:33:16,340 --> 00:33:20,320 It's play, play, over it. Well, he gave up, yeah. 572 00:33:21,020 --> 00:33:25,960 That bite, you know you totally asked for. What she's complaining about is a 573 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,740 frameable picture of a cat being overstimulated. 574 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,940 That's not, I'm going to rip your head off. 575 00:33:33,260 --> 00:33:36,800 That's, I'm excited and I need to get this energy out of my system. 576 00:33:37,050 --> 00:33:42,610 This is what overstimulation looks like. You made that cat bomb bed in that 577 00:33:42,610 --> 00:33:45,470 moment and then just slept in it. You're right. 578 00:33:45,770 --> 00:33:50,470 I had no idea that a kitten is so different from a full -grown cat. 579 00:33:51,050 --> 00:33:56,030 Energetically, a kitten's crazy compared to a cat. Now I have empathy for it, 580 00:33:56,050 --> 00:33:57,050 and I know it's a phase. 581 00:33:57,350 --> 00:34:00,630 Your playing could really use some help. 582 00:34:01,450 --> 00:34:04,770 So I'm seeing dangle, dangle, wave, wave. 583 00:34:05,550 --> 00:34:10,850 Like there's no investment whatsoever in what the game actually is, which is 584 00:34:10,850 --> 00:34:12,449 chase this thing and kill it. 585 00:34:14,909 --> 00:34:19,110 If you're not going to put the effort into the game, how do you expect the cat 586 00:34:19,110 --> 00:34:20,530 to play along? 587 00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:23,570 You've still got an energetic balloon filled to the brim. 588 00:34:25,130 --> 00:34:26,150 Pretty good. 589 00:34:26,730 --> 00:34:29,670 We are castifying our host. 590 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,000 Wait, did he get up there by himself? No, no, no. You put him up there. Okay. 591 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,580 loved it. The best thing that I'm seeing in catification is the look on Bowie's 592 00:34:39,580 --> 00:34:44,880 face when he's up on that top shelf. He is like, I am home. 593 00:34:45,139 --> 00:34:48,820 He just loves it up there. Good work, guys. Good work. 594 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,679 I finally have the understanding from the guardians. Now, it took us a while 595 00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:56,219 get here, but hey, I'll take it, man, because that means a better life for 596 00:34:56,219 --> 00:34:59,920 and these little girls and, of course, for the parents. Did I introduce you to 597 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:03,960 the concept of boil and simmer the last time I was here? So essential that when 598 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,740 I leave this family, they know how to play with Bowie. If you leave Bowie 599 00:35:07,740 --> 00:35:12,240 hanging energetically without finishing the hunt, he's going to hunt somebody 600 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:16,020 else. Boil and simmer is the technique that I use with cats. The play sessions 601 00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:18,180 are short spurts. This counts. 602 00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:24,340 That's all play. He's using every muscle to focus on that thing. So that's 603 00:35:24,340 --> 00:35:28,440 really using his energy. And then bang, he'll go after it. Let him stay down for 604 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,359 30 seconds. 605 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,420 Then start again. Until the last time that he hits that down position, you 606 00:35:33,420 --> 00:35:35,120 know. His breathing is heavy. 607 00:35:35,420 --> 00:35:39,720 He's like, you've gone boil, simmer, boil, simmer. He's hunted. He's 608 00:35:39,820 --> 00:35:45,520 He is now ready to go into grooming and sleeping. You can then take a walk. 609 00:35:47,180 --> 00:35:51,360 On cue, there's our boy Bowie. Perfect opportunity to have the family see him 610 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,118 this state. 611 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,660 Grain out that energy, and he is a normal cat. Now they know the standards 612 00:35:56,660 --> 00:35:58,160 they've got to live up to when I leave. 613 00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,960 Such a good boy. 614 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,780 The last time I was here, Stuart was very clear, very honest. He was just 615 00:36:06,780 --> 00:36:12,100 away from rehoming Bowie. I want to check in with Stuart. How are you 616 00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:13,480 feeling about this whole process? 617 00:36:21,220 --> 00:36:23,380 I am committed to the long term. 618 00:36:24,460 --> 00:36:28,700 I think there will be levels of frustration along the way. Yeah. But 619 00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:32,800 here for good. It makes me really happy. When Jackson first arrived, Bowie was 620 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,700 on his way out the door, but no. 621 00:36:35,230 --> 00:36:39,610 We better understand him as our little boy cat. I think that's given us real 622 00:36:39,610 --> 00:36:43,590 empathy into why he's behaved in the ways that he has done in the past, and 623 00:36:43,590 --> 00:36:45,350 certainly a lot more emotionally invested. 624 00:36:46,070 --> 00:36:48,470 All right, you guys got this. 625 00:36:49,470 --> 00:36:52,970 Bowie and you guys are going to grow up and be very happy. I just know it. The 626 00:36:52,970 --> 00:36:57,670 great thing here is that we caught this just in time, before Bowie got kicked 627 00:36:57,670 --> 00:37:02,090 out of this house, just in time before both Aurora and Athena became scared of 628 00:37:02,090 --> 00:37:03,390 cats for the rest of their lives. 629 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:09,500 Man, now we have a foundation to build a friendship on. Thank you so much. Of 630 00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:11,680 course. Thank you. My pleasure, guys. 631 00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:12,618 Bye, guys. 632 00:37:12,620 --> 00:37:17,720 Bye. You know, before we embarked on this journey with Jackson, we weren't 633 00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:19,200 about the future of Bowie. 634 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:24,780 We have learned so much, and he's not perfect, and I'm not going to expect 635 00:37:24,780 --> 00:37:29,800 perfection. I'm going to let Bowie be Bowie and help Bowie be a kitten. 636 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,680 There's pee on my counter, and it's disgusting. 637 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:49,280 So I'm here for my third visit with Difty Rose and Bandit. Now, the last 638 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,640 was here, Jeanne almost convinced me that things were getting worse, even 639 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,880 they were clearly getting better. 640 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:59,140 I'm hoping today that I'm seeing a self -assured family, and they're not going 641 00:37:59,140 --> 00:38:03,260 to sink in to a reality that just leads to more plastic. 642 00:38:03,580 --> 00:38:04,580 How are we feeling? 643 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,940 Feeling very good. She's been happy. 644 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,580 I can see that. It's been happy. 645 00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:14,620 She's been a lot more happy. She's happy, everybody. 646 00:38:15,140 --> 00:38:18,820 Good. I'm pretty stoked. And honestly, I want to get right to it. I want to grab 647 00:38:18,820 --> 00:38:23,580 your video homework and let's start going through it. Okay, so we are 648 00:38:23,580 --> 00:38:28,600 deterrents and moving them now to a new spot to, again, try and keep any feral 649 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,578 cats. 650 00:38:29,580 --> 00:38:34,260 Since these guys rotated their deterrents, really just fortified the 651 00:38:34,260 --> 00:38:38,120 around here, made sure that they were covering every possible entrance and 652 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,620 point for the ferals, nothing. No cats, and that's important around here, 653 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:47,020 because Gypsy Rose and Bandit were dealing with incredible amounts of 654 00:38:47,020 --> 00:38:51,880 from the barbarians at the gate. And now that we've driven them back from the 655 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,030 gate... They can breathe, and they can exist around one another and not 656 00:38:56,030 --> 00:38:59,430 their aggression or their insecurities on one another or on the house. 657 00:38:59,650 --> 00:39:04,450 Ah, the big one. So far, the counters have been clean, but... This morning, I 658 00:39:04,450 --> 00:39:10,130 just caught my eye, and this is an area in which Gypsy Rose has been caught 659 00:39:10,130 --> 00:39:12,710 spraying the backside of my counter. 660 00:39:12,970 --> 00:39:13,970 Oh, boy. 661 00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:23,880 This morning... Just caught my eye. 662 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,580 And this is the area in which Gypsy Rose has been caught spraying the backside 663 00:39:29,580 --> 00:39:30,580 of my counter. 664 00:39:31,940 --> 00:39:36,340 Did you put out the deterrent before or after that pee happened? It happened 665 00:39:36,340 --> 00:39:41,560 before. It would make sense. Of course, the less we have feral cats closing the 666 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,340 boundaries in on this house, the less these cats are going to pee around the 667 00:39:45,340 --> 00:39:47,260 house since the deterrents went up. 668 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,440 Nothing. She's been... 669 00:39:51,470 --> 00:39:57,230 Itching, and now she feels that she's ready to do this. I mean, just hands 670 00:39:57,310 --> 00:40:02,110 the best part about video homework is it's Jianne. She is so happy. 671 00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:03,550 Yay! 672 00:40:05,650 --> 00:40:06,950 First of all, props. 673 00:40:07,170 --> 00:40:12,230 I mean, I know it took a lot. It took a lot to get all of this plastic away, 674 00:40:12,310 --> 00:40:15,170 really start embracing this moment. 675 00:40:15,470 --> 00:40:17,670 Literally from one day to the next, there was a change. 676 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,320 In the middle of talking to this family, in comes Bandit, and he's just 677 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,960 strutting around the house. Look at that. Look at that cat. 678 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,439 Mm -hmm. 679 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,340 He's taking ownership of his home. 680 00:40:28,580 --> 00:40:29,558 Good boy. 681 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:34,720 Bandit and Gypsy Rose progress makes me feel pretty great. The confidence level 682 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:39,360 of these cats is pretty demonstrative right now. We got one thing left, and 683 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,720 is the forbidden zone. 684 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:46,000 I gave these guys very clear guidelines. If the cats haven't peed somewhere in a 685 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,780 week to two weeks, Off comes the plastic. Now, it's been 10 days since 686 00:40:49,780 --> 00:40:52,880 accident happened, and I'm not going to call it a problem because it never 687 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,779 happened again. 688 00:40:53,780 --> 00:40:56,160 So get the plastic off. 689 00:40:56,700 --> 00:40:59,540 Okay, let's go. Come on, honey, because you two have to do a lot of cleaning. 690 00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:01,700 Ready? Do it, do it, do it. Yes, clean. 691 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,420 You know, I'm not just watching a moment with this family reclaiming their 692 00:41:06,420 --> 00:41:11,400 house. I'm part of it. I'm really happy right now. I feel like I've invested a 693 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,180 lot in this home with this family. Come on over here. I want to sit. 694 00:41:17,350 --> 00:41:18,350 My counter's back! 695 00:41:19,050 --> 00:41:22,250 I think I was just so excited that when I saw my counter all nice and clean, I 696 00:41:22,250 --> 00:41:23,009 was like, yes! 697 00:41:23,010 --> 00:41:24,950 And I rubbed it, and I didn't want to hug it. 698 00:41:25,230 --> 00:41:27,270 Got your house back. Got your house back. 699 00:41:27,610 --> 00:41:28,610 Very nice. 700 00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:29,710 And your mother. 701 00:41:29,850 --> 00:41:31,750 And your mother. Don't forget that part. 702 00:41:32,030 --> 00:41:35,570 It's all about relationships in this house. The cats now have one, where they 703 00:41:35,570 --> 00:41:39,770 really didn't have one before. The humans have a better one now that the 704 00:41:39,770 --> 00:41:40,770 have figured theirs out. 705 00:41:40,930 --> 00:41:42,190 Oh, what is that? 706 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,720 I'm glad the family can see this. This is what their life is now. They know 707 00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:52,060 their territory is safe from outside forces. 708 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,960 Call me if you need me, guys, okay? 709 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,198 Thank you so much. 710 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,200 Take care. 711 00:41:56,220 --> 00:41:57,220 Bye. Bye. 712 00:41:57,380 --> 00:42:01,440 Coming through this journey from beginning to end wasn't just about the 713 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,720 was about the dynamics of us as a family, too, as a whole, incorporating 714 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:09,020 cats. Jackson helped us to get to this moment, and I think me and my mom now 715 00:42:09,020 --> 00:42:10,460 really enjoy each other's company more. 62900

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