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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,420 Our cats cannot stand each other. 2 00:00:07,060 --> 00:00:10,180 There's Jeff's squad hanging out of Sadie's face. 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,760 Sadie's trying to murder Jeff. 4 00:00:12,980 --> 00:00:14,620 Everything that we've tried has failed. 5 00:00:14,900 --> 00:00:17,560 Uh -oh, we've got a huge mess on our hands. 6 00:00:18,100 --> 00:00:22,180 I have a 13 -year -old feral cat that I rescued a year ago. Blackie. 7 00:00:22,620 --> 00:00:27,560 Blackie stays in the closet because he's afraid of everybody. 8 00:00:28,270 --> 00:00:30,690 I mean, cats start destroying everything. 9 00:00:31,050 --> 00:00:34,030 Uh -oh, he just urinated under the bed. She hates cats. 10 00:00:34,250 --> 00:00:37,830 I don't hate cats. And Blackie's picking up on it. She thought Blackie was 11 00:00:37,830 --> 00:00:38,830 possessed. 12 00:00:40,870 --> 00:00:44,650 It's like an exorcism. My daughter has lost her sense of reality. 13 00:00:44,890 --> 00:00:46,470 Oh, here we go. Here we go. 14 00:00:47,710 --> 00:00:48,870 I'm Jack from Galaxy. 15 00:00:49,130 --> 00:00:50,130 I am Cat. 16 00:00:50,370 --> 00:00:55,130 The animal behavior, the guardian's call, and they're dealing with a 17 00:00:55,130 --> 00:00:56,130 cat. 18 00:00:57,290 --> 00:00:58,450 Wow, he really got you. 19 00:00:59,630 --> 00:01:02,970 I'm out to prove that there is no such thing as a bad cat. 20 00:01:03,190 --> 00:01:05,610 Just a cat that needs my help. You did it. 21 00:01:09,090 --> 00:01:10,090 Hi, I'm Grace. 22 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:23,899 And I'm Josh. 23 00:01:23,900 --> 00:01:28,280 Grace and I are best friends who live together with our two cats. We love 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:33,380 together. It's the perfect situation, theoretically, but our cats cannot stand 25 00:01:33,380 --> 00:01:34,380 each other. 26 00:01:37,100 --> 00:01:42,960 My cat Sadie is nine years old. My cat Jeff Bell is three years old. 27 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:48,600 Sadie is a wonderful cat who turns into a crazy monster every time she has 28 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,600 access to Jeff. 29 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,300 Sadie, no! Stop! We have tried everything to keep the peace. 30 00:01:55,300 --> 00:02:00,900 We read all the material, we started them separate, and we started with 31 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,280 and we started with shared defense, and everything that we've tried has failed 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:11,980 miserably. The only solution we've been able to agree upon was to 33 00:02:11,980 --> 00:02:14,080 keep them separate at all times. 34 00:02:14,780 --> 00:02:18,920 Jess Bell gets to go out at night, and Sadie has the apartment during the day. 35 00:02:19,210 --> 00:02:22,390 Going to the lengths to keep them sequestered has taken a strain on our 36 00:02:22,390 --> 00:02:25,930 relationship because we have to choose between spending time together or 37 00:02:25,930 --> 00:02:26,930 spending time with our cats. 38 00:02:27,630 --> 00:02:32,090 I would not feel comfortable leaving the two of them alone for fear one of them 39 00:02:32,090 --> 00:02:33,150 might not come out alive. 40 00:02:33,810 --> 00:02:37,350 There's a piece of Jess's claw hanging out of Sadie's face. 41 00:02:37,850 --> 00:02:42,730 We can't enjoy our cats at all because Jess is terrified of Sadie and Sadie is 42 00:02:42,730 --> 00:02:45,310 always trying to murder Jess. No. 43 00:02:48,300 --> 00:02:51,800 Please, Jackson, help us so I don't have to move out, so I don't lose my 44 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:52,800 friendship with Jess. 45 00:02:56,180 --> 00:02:57,520 Hey. Hi. I'm Jackson. 46 00:02:57,740 --> 00:02:58,659 Who's this? 47 00:02:58,660 --> 00:03:01,300 This is Sadie. Oh, hi, Sadie. Yeah. 48 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:02,520 Is Sadie our problem? 49 00:03:02,740 --> 00:03:07,400 Sadie's the initiator. As soon as we introduce Jess Bell, she becomes a 50 00:03:07,740 --> 00:03:09,200 How long have you guys lived together? 51 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,780 18 months. Yeah, about that. Tell me. 52 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,080 How these cats came to hate each other. Like they hated each other from moment 53 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,260 one. And when you say hate, hate looks like I see you and I just want you dead. 54 00:03:20,460 --> 00:03:24,080 Yeah. And when we moved in together, we talked about like our plan and like it 55 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,240 was going to take months. What was the plan? 56 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,180 We did scent exchanges first. 57 00:03:28,420 --> 00:03:31,140 How did that go? There weren't any red flags. It wasn't like I smelled you and 58 00:03:31,140 --> 00:03:35,560 hissed at the bag? Not really, no. In fact, it seemed like we were making 59 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,320 genuine progress until they actually could see each other. 60 00:03:40,830 --> 00:03:43,570 The first time that they encountered each other, they had a vicious fight. 61 00:03:44,430 --> 00:03:48,150 I mean, we found blood. 62 00:03:48,450 --> 00:03:53,150 Blood is a game changer because it means I do want to hurt you. I don't want to 63 00:03:53,150 --> 00:03:56,490 scare you off. I don't want to claim dominance. I want to hurt you. And 64 00:03:56,490 --> 00:03:57,388 bad news. 65 00:03:57,390 --> 00:04:01,610 Have you guys ever thought about it comes to a point where we just can't 66 00:04:01,610 --> 00:04:02,610 together? Yep. 67 00:04:02,910 --> 00:04:06,770 We definitely have. The more we live together with the cats unhappy, the more 68 00:04:06,770 --> 00:04:08,030 think we are becoming unhappy. 69 00:04:08,430 --> 00:04:11,510 We just continue to feel really guilty that we're making the cats' lives 70 00:04:11,510 --> 00:04:13,930 terrible by forcing them to live in the same apartment. 71 00:04:14,150 --> 00:04:19,390 I feel like I'm just torn between what's best for my living situation and what's 72 00:04:19,390 --> 00:04:20,670 best for my cat's life. 73 00:04:21,010 --> 00:04:22,710 I feel like I'm failing her. 74 00:04:23,510 --> 00:04:26,710 How are you guys doing with this whole thing? Are you united front? Are you 75 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:27,710 guys... 76 00:04:28,479 --> 00:04:30,820 Oh. I mean... Okay, wait, wait. I just hit something. 77 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,600 Let's hear from the person who just made the face. You guys don't approach this 78 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,460 the same way or what? No. From the get -go, every time there's been a fight, 79 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,520 just for me to cope with it, I've needed to have a plan. And for Josh to cope 80 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,640 with it, he needs to physically leave the apartment. If there's a fight? After 81 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:45,640 there's a fight, yeah. 82 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,780 When they fight, I totally shut down. I just... 83 00:04:50,030 --> 00:04:51,270 kind of become an emotional wreck. 84 00:04:51,530 --> 00:04:54,010 That, of course, leaves Grace to pick up the pieces. Yes. 85 00:04:54,230 --> 00:04:58,370 When there's conflict between these cats, Josh is a vapor trail. He's gone. 86 00:04:59,030 --> 00:05:03,390 You can't do that. If your cat is causing a fight, you've got to break it 87 00:05:03,570 --> 00:05:06,730 You've got to take charge of the situation. You can't just walk away and 88 00:05:06,730 --> 00:05:08,430 Grace deal with the whole mess. This is not fair. 89 00:05:08,730 --> 00:05:12,970 I would love to see Jess. Where's she at? She's hiding under my bed. Oh, God, 90 00:05:13,070 --> 00:05:17,030 really? Yeah. Grace, let's go and visit Jess and see if we can get her to say 91 00:05:17,030 --> 00:05:22,580 hi. What I'm looking for is the level of fear. Is she glued to the back of that 92 00:05:22,580 --> 00:05:26,360 headboard? I'm looking for that 1 to 10, where is the fear? 93 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,680 Try to get her to take a treat. Want a treat? 94 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,480 Good girl, Jeff. 95 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,360 She's not looking so bad, Grace. 96 00:05:33,780 --> 00:05:34,800 This is a success. 97 00:05:35,100 --> 00:05:39,720 We got her out from under the bed. She's not in that 7 to 10 range of scared. 98 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,300 She's more like, you know, 2 to 4. That means we can work with her, which is 99 00:05:43,300 --> 00:05:44,800 great. That's a good girl. 100 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:46,600 That's what I wanted. 101 00:05:47,070 --> 00:05:51,030 Yay. Josh and Grace are an unusual case in that they've been living with this 102 00:05:51,030 --> 00:05:54,770 ordeal for a while. They've tried a lot of things, and nothing has worked. So 103 00:05:54,770 --> 00:05:58,830 now they're just paralyzed by the fear of more of these awful fights happening. 104 00:05:58,990 --> 00:06:02,950 So the first thing that I want to do is show Josh that he can redirect Sadie 105 00:06:02,950 --> 00:06:05,370 away from Jess Bell with food and play. 106 00:06:05,810 --> 00:06:09,750 Now, it is risky putting two cats with this kind of history in the same space 107 00:06:09,750 --> 00:06:13,570 together, but given our circumstances, I don't see any other choice. 108 00:06:14,060 --> 00:06:17,640 So here's how it's going to go. Grace, I'm going to have you take Jess, and I'm 109 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,480 going to have you guys settle in by the front door, that area there. 110 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,620 I'm going to take a baby gate. I'm going to put it across the hallway here. 111 00:06:25,060 --> 00:06:28,960 Then, Josh, your job is going to be, Sadie's in your room right now. I'm 112 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,520 to have you lead her, whether that's with treats, toys, whatever it's going 113 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,300 take. The whole goal, I want her to walk down the hallway and walk in here. 114 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:37,759 That's it. 115 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,700 Because she's going to have to walk by Jess and Grace. 116 00:06:41,210 --> 00:06:46,650 And go, okay, all we need is for one cat to walk by another cat without all 117 00:06:46,650 --> 00:06:48,830 kinds of mayhem breaking loose. Okay? Okay. 118 00:06:49,110 --> 00:06:52,530 Not only are the cats going to be so close together, but it's my job to keep 119 00:06:52,530 --> 00:06:53,530 Sadie distracted. 120 00:06:53,610 --> 00:06:56,570 I can't say for sure whether I'll be able to do this, but I'm really going to 121 00:06:56,570 --> 00:06:57,970 try. This is going to be a disaster. 122 00:06:59,290 --> 00:07:02,390 Great. As soon as you get her, I'm going to fence you guys in a little bit. 123 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,740 The humans expect me to come in and challenge their cats, but they don't 124 00:07:05,740 --> 00:07:08,820 to be challenged themselves, and that's what we've got to do. Now, this might 125 00:07:08,820 --> 00:07:11,760 not be the Wild West, but I've got to set up a duel between these two cats. 126 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,180 Hopefully it doesn't end with someone taking a bullet. 127 00:07:14,780 --> 00:07:15,780 Fingers crossed. 128 00:07:16,380 --> 00:07:21,920 Sadie. I am terrified that Josh isn't going to be able to distract Sadie. I 129 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,700 trust Jackson, but I'm honestly afraid we could end up in the emergency room. 130 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,080 All right. Look, I got another treat. 131 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,160 Sadie. Here we go. 132 00:07:31,980 --> 00:07:33,020 Good. Fantastic. 133 00:07:34,340 --> 00:07:35,340 Okay, 134 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,500 now she sees her. We've got eye contact going on here, guys. 135 00:07:39,340 --> 00:07:40,900 Josh, I want you to break out that toy. 136 00:07:41,300 --> 00:07:43,000 Toy, go back towards your bedroom. 137 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:44,500 Yeah, go. 138 00:07:44,660 --> 00:07:46,020 See, now she's locking on target. 139 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,280 What do you want worse? 140 00:07:47,500 --> 00:07:52,740 As Jess and Sadie's eyes lock, I'm thinking, this is it. This is the moment 141 00:07:52,740 --> 00:07:53,740 it all goes downhill. 142 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,220 She hasn't, like, hissed, though, yet. 143 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:58,780 That tail is going. 144 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,520 Josh, it's all on you. 145 00:08:02,010 --> 00:08:03,410 Sadie, come over here. 146 00:08:04,370 --> 00:08:06,110 Now we have a hit. 147 00:08:06,910 --> 00:08:11,250 Face to face, eyes are locked, hitting, not good. 148 00:08:11,870 --> 00:08:16,390 Looking for a way around, aren't you? Look, Sadie could easily leap right over 149 00:08:16,390 --> 00:08:20,550 me, and we've got a huge mess on our hands. This could go either way right 150 00:08:20,770 --> 00:08:21,870 Sadie, keep her low. 151 00:08:29,430 --> 00:08:31,190 Looking for a way around, aren't you? 152 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:36,260 Look, Sadie could easily leap right over me, and we've got a huge mess on our 153 00:08:36,260 --> 00:08:37,980 hands. Sadie, leave her alone. 154 00:08:38,260 --> 00:08:39,260 You've kept her face to face. 155 00:08:39,620 --> 00:08:44,280 Josh has to take ownership of the situation and stay there. This is a game 156 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,280 what I call cat chess. 157 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,440 Jess can't move one way or the other right now because that is a stare down. 158 00:08:50,660 --> 00:08:53,800 If she moves, it's game on. Josh, I want you to be present here. 159 00:08:54,100 --> 00:08:58,220 If you can guide her, really present it to her. Okay, towards your rear. There 160 00:08:58,220 --> 00:08:59,220 you go. Done. 161 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,720 Wow. Wow. 162 00:09:01,530 --> 00:09:02,530 Holy cow. 163 00:09:02,710 --> 00:09:03,710 You see this? 164 00:09:03,730 --> 00:09:05,310 Yeah. You guys watch this? 165 00:09:05,650 --> 00:09:11,190 I can't believe Josh is stepping up and Sadie's actually responding. Like, I'm 166 00:09:11,190 --> 00:09:15,410 completely floored. Sadie is very focused on her, but I can break that 167 00:09:15,550 --> 00:09:17,170 which I didn't think I could do before. 168 00:09:17,450 --> 00:09:21,570 Good. I mean, this is the best they've ever done in the same room together by 169 00:09:21,570 --> 00:09:23,850 far. Okay. Yeah, ever. Fantastic. 170 00:09:24,310 --> 00:09:29,850 Sadie is showing us that she can be interested in something besides getting 171 00:09:29,850 --> 00:09:31,770 target. That's a great sign, man. 172 00:09:32,150 --> 00:09:37,650 Josh just led Sadie away. So the exercise itself was an amazing success. 173 00:09:38,130 --> 00:09:39,130 That's awesome. 174 00:09:40,110 --> 00:09:46,830 Now, you, my friend, we got gates gone, we got cats gone, and we have a frozen 175 00:09:46,830 --> 00:09:50,670 solid cat sitting right here. What I'm seeing from Jeff Bell is a little 176 00:09:50,670 --> 00:09:55,090 depressing. It's embedded trauma. We have a history of a lot of bloodshed, 177 00:09:55,110 --> 00:09:56,230 infected bites. 178 00:09:56,450 --> 00:09:57,570 We got to break it down. 179 00:09:57,790 --> 00:09:59,610 Number one, in terms of... 180 00:09:59,820 --> 00:10:04,340 Switching sides of the house, no more status quo. I want you to start getting 181 00:10:04,340 --> 00:10:07,340 these guys acclimated to owning the entire space. 182 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,500 Okay. Does Sadie ever get into your bedroom? At this point, never. 183 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:17,420 Never? Does Jess ever go into your bedroom? I don't think she's ever seen 184 00:10:17,420 --> 00:10:18,420 inside of my bedroom. What? 185 00:10:18,740 --> 00:10:22,420 Since that's Sadie's territory, we've never, that's like never even been a 186 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,600 Yeah, I don't think it's, honestly, I don't think it's ever even crossed my 187 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,760 mind. It is now. It is now. For instance, you've got... Sadie, out here, 188 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,980 take Jeff for a minute into your bedroom and hang there. Do whatever it takes to 189 00:10:34,980 --> 00:10:38,280 normalize that environment. We're going to start working on catification of the 190 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,860 house. I'm looking around here. 191 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,260 Nothing above here. There's nothing above here for cats to go on. I want you 192 00:10:44,260 --> 00:10:48,320 start exploring how you can use this space more effectively. We did have 193 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:49,320 here today. 194 00:10:49,380 --> 00:10:52,920 It's not going to be that way every time, I promise you. Things are going to 195 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,500 bad again. The difference is that when things go south, You will know what to 196 00:10:57,500 --> 00:10:59,100 without completely freaking out, okay? 197 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,140 Josh, it's really important that you stay present. 198 00:11:02,580 --> 00:11:03,900 It's a parental responsibility. 199 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,600 So it's a fantastic start. There's a lot more work to be done, but it's not 200 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:13,320 hopeless. I know it's a lot of work, and I feel like it's all riding on me. I 201 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,120 really hope with Jackson's help we can stay roommates and no cats die in the 202 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,120 process. 203 00:11:21,170 --> 00:11:24,170 Pleasure, guys. All right, take care. You too. Look, if I come back here next 204 00:11:24,170 --> 00:11:28,030 time and Grace and Josh have not changed everything about the way they operate, 205 00:11:28,210 --> 00:11:31,570 we're going to have fights. We're going to have bloodshed, plain and simple. The 206 00:11:31,570 --> 00:11:34,370 humans have got to step up if we expect the cats to stand out. 207 00:11:35,370 --> 00:11:38,110 Where are you going, Blackie? 208 00:11:48,310 --> 00:11:49,310 I'm Patty. 209 00:11:49,390 --> 00:11:51,390 And I'm Catherine, Patty's mom. 210 00:11:51,670 --> 00:11:57,010 I have two cats, Mini -Me, I've had for about 11 years, and Blackie, a 13 -year 211 00:11:57,010 --> 00:11:59,490 -old feral cat that I rescued and brought home a year ago. 212 00:11:59,770 --> 00:12:05,970 Everything was fine until these cats start destroying everything, including 213 00:12:05,970 --> 00:12:06,970 relationship. 214 00:12:07,550 --> 00:12:10,630 My mother moved here, and that's when all hell broke loose. 215 00:12:10,830 --> 00:12:13,230 Everything spiraled out of control quickly. 216 00:12:13,510 --> 00:12:18,390 Blackie. He just urinated under the bed. It smells like incense -covered pee. 217 00:12:18,780 --> 00:12:22,320 There was urinating everywhere, defecation. I was very upset. 218 00:12:22,620 --> 00:12:23,620 We're lighting candles. 219 00:12:23,900 --> 00:12:25,420 In her case, she's praying. 220 00:12:25,620 --> 00:12:28,080 In my case, it's to get the smell out of here. 221 00:12:28,940 --> 00:12:34,040 Blackie stays in the closet because he's afraid of everybody. There was 222 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,240 defecation in the closet as well. Holy cow. 223 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,200 I think Blackie is wonderful. 224 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:42,700 He's misunderstood. 225 00:12:43,340 --> 00:12:45,760 And I just need some guidance here. 226 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,380 How do you misunderstand a bad odor? 227 00:12:49,580 --> 00:12:54,800 Well, we fight about these cats all the time. All the time. My daughter has lost 228 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,920 her sense of reality. 229 00:12:56,140 --> 00:12:57,560 Oh, here we go. Here we go. 230 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,320 If Blackie's behavior doesn't improve, we will be evicted. 231 00:13:02,740 --> 00:13:03,740 That's what she thinks. 232 00:13:04,100 --> 00:13:08,300 It's frightening. I'm tired of living with this crap. 233 00:13:09,070 --> 00:13:11,410 There goes my reputation. You need to go to confession. 234 00:13:11,650 --> 00:13:12,950 I'm losing my dignity. 235 00:13:13,190 --> 00:13:14,590 They're driving me up a wall. 236 00:13:14,830 --> 00:13:18,890 Jackson, if you don't help Blackie, nobody can. Please help Jackson. 237 00:13:22,090 --> 00:13:23,390 Hey. Jackson! 238 00:13:23,670 --> 00:13:24,569 Come on in. 239 00:13:24,570 --> 00:13:25,990 This is my mother, Catherine. 240 00:13:26,350 --> 00:13:28,430 Hey, Catherine. Hi, Jackson. Nice to meet you. 241 00:13:28,730 --> 00:13:33,070 I know there's a pretty deep backstory with you and Blackie. You want to tell 242 00:13:33,070 --> 00:13:36,090 about it a little bit? Right. He was born on the streets at a car lot. 243 00:13:36,819 --> 00:13:38,000 I was selling cars. 244 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,360 That cat was with me every single day. The other cats that have lived there, 245 00:13:42,460 --> 00:13:46,380 they die a terrible death. They get hit by cars. People throw things at them. 246 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,460 I've even seen antifreeze put in the water. 247 00:13:49,140 --> 00:13:50,780 Blackie, I was able to get him fixed. 248 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,080 Get him shot. 249 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,740 And Blackie wound up coming with you. 250 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,780 Yes. It's a miracle that he survived what he did. What Patty did is really 251 00:13:58,780 --> 00:14:02,060 remarkable. I mean, typically the opportunity to became a feral cat is 252 00:14:02,060 --> 00:14:03,780 much lost by the time they're an adult. 253 00:14:04,180 --> 00:14:09,360 Patty started caring for Blackie at such an early age. Thus, over time, he came 254 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,520 to know and trust her as his primary human. 255 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,300 One of the things that really sent me over here was sort of this sad... 256 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:19,600 concept that he had really backed himself into like a closet. 257 00:14:20,180 --> 00:14:23,580 He lives in the closet. Well, that's a big one. It's kind of like a little 258 00:14:23,580 --> 00:14:28,640 prison. Blackie's story is one that I've heard and seen where we see a feral cat 259 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,660 who's in trouble and we just want to save them. And in saving them, we just 260 00:14:33,660 --> 00:14:36,860 them in another version of hell. And that is in our home. 261 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,680 So we got a cat living in a closet. 262 00:14:39,070 --> 00:14:42,410 What leads me here now? He started to come around and everything was great. 263 00:14:42,410 --> 00:14:46,610 my mother moved here and that's when all hell broke loose. He started to go to 264 00:14:46,610 --> 00:14:47,610 the bathroom under my bed. 265 00:14:47,870 --> 00:14:51,730 I put everything under there to block the bed. And then it was just, I put two 266 00:14:51,730 --> 00:14:55,550 litter boxes for Blackie. And? He uses the one in the corner. But he doesn't 267 00:14:55,550 --> 00:15:00,030 the litter box now. Yep, yep, yep. But the door's shut. But he is back to using 268 00:15:00,030 --> 00:15:01,030 the litter box. Yes. 269 00:15:01,330 --> 00:15:04,730 So the current situation is very different. We're not dealing with the 270 00:15:04,730 --> 00:15:07,630 poop thing. So you guys are copacetic now in terms of their... 271 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:08,840 No. No. 272 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,280 I have a theory. 273 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,400 He hates cats. No, I don't hate cats. And black is picking up on it. That's 274 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,580 true. And then she makes me wear these crazy gloves with cat written on them 275 00:15:18,580 --> 00:15:20,640 that she wrote with nail polish. Hang on. Pump your brakes. 276 00:15:20,980 --> 00:15:21,980 Shorty. 277 00:15:22,140 --> 00:15:23,140 Pump your brakes. 278 00:15:23,860 --> 00:15:28,380 I'm not allowed to open cat food around her because it makes her gag. I'm tired. 279 00:15:28,540 --> 00:15:32,640 I don't want to be eating larvae and stuff. No larvae. There's no larvae. She 280 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,500 was never this wacky. She even put holy water around the house. I did. I was 281 00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:37,500 ready to cry. 282 00:15:37,620 --> 00:15:41,660 You never saw such a disaster in your life. I come around the corner, I get a 283 00:15:41,660 --> 00:15:42,660 snoop full of holy water. 284 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,440 Father, son, spirit. 285 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,320 She thought Blackie was possessed. 286 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:53,020 It's like an exorcism. Did you have any interaction with Blackie when you... No, 287 00:15:53,020 --> 00:15:54,860 I kept my door shut because... 288 00:15:55,470 --> 00:15:57,850 I don't like cats sleeping on my bed. 289 00:15:58,070 --> 00:16:01,290 You don't like cats? I don't like cats. I like cats. I got that part. There is a 290 00:16:01,290 --> 00:16:04,970 lot of back and forth between Patty and Catherine, but I think I'm finally on to 291 00:16:04,970 --> 00:16:09,190 what's happened here. When Catherine moved in with Patty, Blackie responded 292 00:16:09,190 --> 00:16:11,630 marking his territory and hiding in the closet. 293 00:16:12,150 --> 00:16:15,370 Now, by adding litter boxes and closing the door, they took care of the 294 00:16:15,370 --> 00:16:18,090 spraying, but the bigger problem was worse than ever. 295 00:16:18,610 --> 00:16:22,750 Blackie is a cat who is scared to death and still won't leave Patty's closet. 296 00:16:22,990 --> 00:16:25,320 I don't. I had cats. I had many cats. 297 00:16:25,620 --> 00:16:28,720 But you've gotten less tolerant of them. You couldn't live with this. 298 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,480 Talking to Patty and to Catherine, there's a comedy going on. In the next 299 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,760 there's a tragedy playing out because I know that right over there, something 300 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,020 really heartbreaking is happening. 301 00:16:38,220 --> 00:16:41,120 What I need is to go meet Blackie. I've got to spend some time with him and 302 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,160 figure out where to go from there. 303 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,280 Hey, my friend. 304 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,820 Why is there poop in the closet? 305 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,740 The fact that there's poop in the closet right now concerns me even more. 306 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,220 Because that's telling me that just because I came to the house, he got 307 00:16:54,220 --> 00:16:56,100 enough to poop in the closet. That's bad news, man. 308 00:16:56,380 --> 00:16:58,000 I just want you to use your nose. 309 00:16:58,600 --> 00:16:59,600 What is that? 310 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,000 Come on, buddy. 311 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,200 Just smell it. 312 00:17:05,300 --> 00:17:10,920 Can't even get you to smell it. Okay, so that's kind of a bummer. 313 00:17:11,859 --> 00:17:13,359 My worst fears are confirmed. 314 00:17:13,619 --> 00:17:16,300 He is a cat in a house. 315 00:17:16,700 --> 00:17:17,980 who doesn't want to be in a house. 316 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:19,319 Now what? 317 00:17:19,900 --> 00:17:21,200 Look at your life, buddy. 318 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,599 You don't want this life, do you? 319 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,099 Don't you want a bigger life? 320 00:17:39,700 --> 00:17:41,220 My worst fears are confirmed. 321 00:17:41,460 --> 00:17:45,980 He is a cat in a house who doesn't want to be in a house. 322 00:17:46,919 --> 00:17:47,919 Uh, hmm. 323 00:17:48,180 --> 00:17:49,200 I don't like that. 324 00:17:49,540 --> 00:17:52,560 No, I don't like that. I'm not going to lie to you, Patty. 325 00:17:52,820 --> 00:17:55,660 I mean, you've got a feral cat in your bedroom. 326 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,080 He doesn't know any other way of living. 327 00:17:58,340 --> 00:18:03,060 I went in there and tried to hang out with a cat who was a frozen cat in the 328 00:18:03,060 --> 00:18:04,380 closet. That's who he is. 329 00:18:04,660 --> 00:18:08,780 As troubled as I am that I can't get Blackie out of the closet right now, I 330 00:18:08,780 --> 00:18:10,080 still think there's reason for hope. 331 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,600 Patty and Blackie's relationship goes back many years to when he was living at 332 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,220 that used car lot that she worked at. And so there's this underlying layer of 333 00:18:18,220 --> 00:18:22,360 trust that Patty earned from Blackie. I'm convinced that we can build on that 334 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:26,180 relationship to give Blackie a bigger life beyond Patty's closet. 335 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,440 You've done a wonderful thing for a cat. Now we've got to teach him. 336 00:18:30,660 --> 00:18:36,360 Right. So I'm going to give you guys some exercises to do with Blackie. We're 337 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:38,420 going to work on base camp expansion. 338 00:18:38,940 --> 00:18:42,820 I want to start bringing beds, cat trees, and litter boxes out to the rest 339 00:18:42,820 --> 00:18:46,280 the house so that everything has its scent on it. The food bowl, let's start 340 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,940 bringing it towards that door, getting it past the door, leading him out. But 341 00:18:50,940 --> 00:18:55,400 every time he gets to a destination, he goes, oh, yeah, this is mine. I own 342 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,160 this. Now, here's the tough part. The problem's not about litter boxes. 343 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:00,560 It was Catherine. 344 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,080 You came into the picture, and suddenly the cat disappeared. 345 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,140 So, Catherine, I need you to start being a part of his life that brings good 346 00:19:10,140 --> 00:19:11,200 things. No. 347 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,040 No. You want me to run away. No, I want you to be his friend. 348 00:19:17,260 --> 00:19:18,260 Are you okay? 349 00:19:19,220 --> 00:19:20,220 Are you all right? 350 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,780 In order to solve this problem, Catherine has to be part of the 351 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,040 All right, guys, if you have any questions or anything, you let me know, 352 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,160 All right. All right. 353 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,360 If Blackie is still frozen stiff by the time I come back here next time, that 354 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:35,259 tells me. 355 00:19:35,260 --> 00:19:38,600 Catherine didn't live up to her end of the bargain, and I got a cat who's still 356 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,020 going to break my heart every time I see him. 357 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,040 Well, 358 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,020 I'm here for my second visit with Josh and Grace and their cats, Sadie and 359 00:19:52,020 --> 00:19:55,740 Jessville. Let me tell you, when I first met these two cats, every encounter was 360 00:19:55,740 --> 00:19:56,740 a bloody one. 361 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,160 I have no idea what I'm going to find walking into this place. Hopefully what 362 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,700 am going to see is two cats who haven't killed each other. 363 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,040 How are you, man? 364 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,180 I sent you guys a way to shake everything up. Tell me about it. We 365 00:20:09,180 --> 00:20:12,720 everything we were doing and just threw everything out the window. I'm more 366 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,200 confident that I have sway over her to keep her distracted. 367 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,080 Josh is convinced if a fight breaks up, he's going to be able to man up and stop 368 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,780 it. I'm not so confident it will go that easily. 369 00:20:23,220 --> 00:20:27,600 Let's say it doesn't work that way. Are you out the door? I'm fully committed to 370 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,220 staying in control and not letting my nerves get the better of me. I'm really 371 00:20:31,220 --> 00:20:32,680 just wanting to dig into your homework. 372 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:33,779 Let's watch it. 373 00:20:33,780 --> 00:20:35,260 All right, ladies, secure. 374 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,200 Time to get Jess Bell. 375 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,380 Okay, there's no lady in here. 376 00:20:39,860 --> 00:20:42,180 Look, pretty interesting in here. 377 00:20:42,540 --> 00:20:44,260 Somebody's just chill in here, huh? 378 00:20:44,620 --> 00:20:45,620 Hey, Shelly. 379 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,380 See, you can have access to this room all night. 380 00:20:48,620 --> 00:20:49,619 Isn't that going to be exciting? 381 00:20:49,620 --> 00:20:52,520 I think, based on what I'm seeing from Jess Bell, that she's demonstrating 382 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,580 enough confidence to stand up to Sadie. 383 00:20:55,300 --> 00:20:56,300 That's fantastic. 384 00:20:56,700 --> 00:20:58,580 You know what? I want to go check out your catification. 385 00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:00,500 Let's go on over here. Look. 386 00:21:01,470 --> 00:21:05,690 Fantastic. I really love the fact that Grace and Josh used Square Cat Habitat 387 00:21:05,690 --> 00:21:09,970 shelving system for this room because it looks good and it works well. They 388 00:21:09,970 --> 00:21:13,970 really showed me that they're serious about this. Look at you. 389 00:21:14,170 --> 00:21:18,190 Look at how completely at peace she is. The last time I was here, I saw great 390 00:21:18,190 --> 00:21:22,790 progress from Josh. He was redirecting Sadie away from Jessville, but this time 391 00:21:22,790 --> 00:21:26,650 around, because Sadie is so comfortable up high on these new shelves, I'm going 392 00:21:26,650 --> 00:21:30,650 to have Jess come in on ground level with Sadie watching her from above. 393 00:21:31,260 --> 00:21:34,840 Now that puts both of these cats in the same room without a barrier in between 394 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:35,840 them except for Josh. 395 00:21:35,980 --> 00:21:40,520 Now this is high risk, high reward for everybody. Because if it works, it's a 396 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,840 huge breakthrough. And if it doesn't, we are back to square one. 397 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:44,739 All right. 398 00:21:44,740 --> 00:21:49,140 I am not ready for Jess and Sadie to come face to face. I'm really worried 399 00:21:49,140 --> 00:21:50,140 how it's going to go down. 400 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,460 If there is a cat fight right now, it's not the best outcome. 401 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,240 But we've got to find out where we stand. 402 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:58,660 Worst case scenario, Jess and Sadie attack each other and I get in there and 403 00:21:58,660 --> 00:21:59,700 stop that fight right away. 404 00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:01,340 That's how confident I'm feeling. 405 00:22:02,660 --> 00:22:03,820 So now, here we go. 406 00:22:04,220 --> 00:22:09,320 Grace, just carry Jess in, and we're going to put her right around here. 407 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,900 Now, what you can do is head on over to her. You can go and talk to her or 408 00:22:13,900 --> 00:22:17,080 whatever. In the meantime, what do we got? 409 00:22:18,420 --> 00:22:19,420 What do you think? 410 00:22:19,580 --> 00:22:22,580 It's your favorite, Jess. What is it? Now, I like the fact that she's hanging 411 00:22:22,580 --> 00:22:23,580 out. 412 00:22:28,050 --> 00:22:33,390 Worst case scenario, Sadie turns into a sadist, bolts down, and she completely 413 00:22:33,390 --> 00:22:37,670 goes to town on Jess and beats her up, and Josh is gone. 414 00:22:38,490 --> 00:22:42,070 And this ends in a bloody, hairy mess. 415 00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:44,110 Now, Josh, treat. 416 00:22:44,990 --> 00:22:46,050 Treat. Good. 417 00:22:46,450 --> 00:22:47,450 Good going. 418 00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:49,790 Josh, lead her up. 419 00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:50,989 Uh -oh. 420 00:22:50,990 --> 00:22:54,630 Josh, we got a fight going on. No, no, no, no. 421 00:23:01,989 --> 00:23:02,989 Good going. 422 00:23:03,850 --> 00:23:05,070 Josh, lead her up. 423 00:23:05,310 --> 00:23:06,310 Uh -oh. 424 00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:11,550 Josh? We got a fight going on. No, no, no, no. 425 00:23:16,810 --> 00:23:18,770 Fight's over. 426 00:23:27,530 --> 00:23:30,310 Well, that's it. Wait, wait, wait. 427 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,280 Josh, pick up your cat. She goes into your bedroom. 428 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,560 Okay. 429 00:23:36,260 --> 00:23:41,840 I got information about the baby from this, that when she sees Jess, she's not 430 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,340 trying to intimidate her, she's not trying to walk her down, and she's not 431 00:23:45,340 --> 00:23:46,299 stalking her. 432 00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:47,520 She wants to kill her. 433 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,660 What happened, baby? 434 00:23:56,940 --> 00:23:57,940 What happened? 435 00:23:59,660 --> 00:24:00,660 It's okay. 436 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,720 It's okay, guys. 437 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,680 Come here. I learned a lot about the humans in this process as well. 438 00:24:05,220 --> 00:24:07,220 Josh throws solids. 439 00:24:10,420 --> 00:24:13,340 Well, clearly that experiment didn't work. 440 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,760 Epic fail, especially by Josh. 441 00:24:16,180 --> 00:24:19,080 We have to at this point say that's the last time that happens, because she 442 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,080 can't take it anymore. 443 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,760 Jess has been knocked down a peg again, and we have got to get her back on the 444 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,640 horse tonight and build her back up. 445 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,380 For homework, we have to really work on her, and it's about working on her 446 00:24:30,380 --> 00:24:35,080 confidence. We have to get Jess more secure in a larger territory because 447 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,760 confident cats are less likely to be seen as prey and get attacked. 448 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:43,180 One of the biggest things that I heard today was that if Grace is not home, she 449 00:24:43,180 --> 00:24:45,960 does not come out, and that can't continue. 450 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,340 This time around with homework, embrace the idea of what I call base camp 451 00:24:49,340 --> 00:24:53,240 expansion. So that is all the good stuff that smells like her and smells like 452 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,000 you that's in your room. Start bringing it out. 453 00:24:56,270 --> 00:25:00,310 I want her to feel like she's got a home in every room in the house. I want you 454 00:25:00,310 --> 00:25:04,670 guys to create a safe enough environment for her that when you open that door, 455 00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:05,329 she's out. 456 00:25:05,330 --> 00:25:09,250 Next piece of homework is I want them to do an introductory feeding exercise at 457 00:25:09,250 --> 00:25:12,750 a closed door. This way the cats get to introduce themselves through scent and 458 00:25:12,750 --> 00:25:16,370 reintroduce themselves in a non -threatening way. But, of course, the 459 00:25:16,370 --> 00:25:19,610 important part of homework is when I walk out this door, you guys lift each 460 00:25:19,610 --> 00:25:20,750 other up. I know it's hard. 461 00:25:21,150 --> 00:25:25,030 We saw what's happened. Sometimes you have miracles, and sometimes you get 462 00:25:25,030 --> 00:25:29,290 crashing back down to Earth. The good side is I'm not sensing any injuries on 463 00:25:29,290 --> 00:25:29,989 her part. 464 00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:34,770 But please, trust me, we can do this. You guys got to support each other right 465 00:25:34,770 --> 00:25:38,030 now. We faced our biggest fear today, and it was a complete nightmare. 466 00:25:38,290 --> 00:25:41,330 A part of me is just really terrified that it's a lost cause. 467 00:25:41,670 --> 00:25:44,490 We're not just fighting for our friendship and being roommates. We're 468 00:25:44,490 --> 00:25:47,190 for our cat's happiness and our cat's quality of life. 469 00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:50,540 I am not going to give up. All right, guys. I will see you in a few weeks. 470 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,020 Absolutely. I believe that ultimately Josh and Grace can do this because I've 471 00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:59,960 seen Josh step up and take control. I know he has it in him. Plus, I've seen 472 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:05,000 Sadie choose food and play over fighting with Jess Bell, so I know she can be 473 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,980 distracted. Despite what we saw today, I think this is still a workable 474 00:26:08,980 --> 00:26:10,600 situation, although not the easiest. 475 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,220 Where are you going, Blackie? 476 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,660 I'm heading over to meet up with Patty and Catherine and to check in on 477 00:26:23,660 --> 00:26:24,599 Blackie's progress. 478 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,020 Last time I was here, it was just a circus. There was larva talk and fear of 479 00:26:29,020 --> 00:26:32,180 litter. And the poor cat that was stuck in the closet. I don't know what I'm 480 00:26:32,180 --> 00:26:34,940 walking into. But hopefully, you've got a cat now living in the closet. 481 00:26:35,140 --> 00:26:39,720 It's a very strange place to find yourself with a feral cat in your house. 482 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,589 have you been seeing? 483 00:26:40,590 --> 00:26:43,910 Oh, my gosh. Night and day. There's no litter box scandal. 484 00:26:44,130 --> 00:26:46,530 There's no defecating or urinating anywhere. 485 00:26:47,010 --> 00:26:48,250 It's a dream come true. 486 00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:49,650 That's fantastic news. 487 00:26:49,870 --> 00:26:52,770 Now, Catherine, did you have any moments with him that surprised you? 488 00:26:54,090 --> 00:26:58,550 He's been good with me. You know, gradually came along to get his food. 489 00:26:58,550 --> 00:27:02,010 surprising and good. Hearing about the progress, I think Blackie's really 490 00:27:02,010 --> 00:27:04,390 stepping up to the challenge. Now, I've got to see this for myself. 491 00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:05,710 Let's take a look. 492 00:27:09,060 --> 00:27:12,100 Great. Blackie's going to freak out when he comes out of the closet. 493 00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:16,920 I put a litter box in the living room. Do you expand the base camp? 494 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:23,320 Blackie is smelling everything, and this base camping seems to be working. 495 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,399 Look at that. 496 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,040 I'm seeing scent soakers and food placed all around the house where the open 497 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,360 doors are, encouraging Blackie to explore his new territory. 498 00:27:31,820 --> 00:27:35,500 This is what base camp expansion is all about, and it's really paying off for 499 00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:37,220 Blackie. Whoa, there you go. 500 00:27:37,930 --> 00:27:41,250 You can see in the homework, by the way, that Blackie is interacting with Mini 501 00:27:41,250 --> 00:27:44,570 -Me, that Mini -Me was never the problem here. These two cats don't have an 502 00:27:44,570 --> 00:27:47,850 issue with each other. It was Catherine that Blackie had an issue with all 503 00:27:47,850 --> 00:27:49,350 along, and they're making some progress. 504 00:27:49,630 --> 00:27:50,630 There you go. 505 00:27:51,170 --> 00:27:55,630 Watching the homework makes me feel completely exhilarated. Look at Blackie. 506 00:27:55,710 --> 00:27:59,110 He's coming out. He's interacting with Mini -Me. He's eating in the middle of 507 00:27:59,110 --> 00:28:03,230 the hallway. The Base Camp expansion thing worked very well. 508 00:28:03,770 --> 00:28:06,950 Evidence that I'm seeing so far is bananas good. 509 00:28:07,390 --> 00:28:09,430 Blackie has to learn to trust you. 510 00:28:09,810 --> 00:28:11,750 She's going to try to lure Blackie out. 511 00:28:12,170 --> 00:28:13,170 Okay, 512 00:28:14,430 --> 00:28:16,070 so he knows it's out here. 513 00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:21,630 Okay, all right. I think we can stop talking and see if he comes out. 514 00:28:21,870 --> 00:28:24,830 Okay, just push the food in front of the door. 515 00:28:25,630 --> 00:28:26,630 Okay, put it down. 516 00:28:26,770 --> 00:28:27,549 Put it down. 517 00:28:27,550 --> 00:28:29,130 Okay, back out. Back out. Back out. 518 00:28:29,450 --> 00:28:30,870 Here in the living room. 519 00:28:32,270 --> 00:28:34,570 That's a good boy. Okay, back out. Walk away. 520 00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:40,950 So. Of all the good stuff I saw with Blackie, there was a lot of tense little 521 00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:45,930 moments where you're trying to accomplish something with Blackie and 522 00:28:46,050 --> 00:28:47,810 you're being a little on. 523 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,580 Top of the situation. 524 00:28:49,860 --> 00:28:54,120 The dynamic I'm seeing between Patty and Catherine, too much direction giving, 525 00:28:54,260 --> 00:28:56,980 too much noise and static. She's very possessive of him. 526 00:28:57,580 --> 00:28:59,220 It's like the helicopter mother. 527 00:28:59,420 --> 00:29:02,640 Takes one to know one and the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. 528 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,300 Crab apple. I got to be perfectly honest with you. We had a couple little 529 00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:08,120 fights. She thinks I'm going to. 530 00:29:08,570 --> 00:29:11,730 Ruffle the feathers or something. You just want to keep Blackie in that room 531 00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:15,350 forever. That's not fair to Blackie. Oh, no, no, no, no. Patty doesn't want 532 00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:16,530 Blackie like anybody. 533 00:29:16,830 --> 00:29:18,030 She wants him all to herself. 534 00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:21,930 All of the boys. You make me sound like a cat. You make me sound like a cat 535 00:29:21,930 --> 00:29:23,970 freak. She's overprotective. 536 00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:26,090 Afraid he's going to have a breakdown or something. 537 00:29:26,810 --> 00:29:31,290 I know you were trying, but you're not comfortable ceding control of the 538 00:29:31,290 --> 00:29:32,290 situation to anybody. 539 00:29:32,610 --> 00:29:36,970 Patty is a control freak with her animals. She never stops. Just because I 540 00:29:36,970 --> 00:29:37,990 like he got... 541 00:29:38,270 --> 00:29:42,810 And I know how much he can take. If it's overstimulation, he's out of there. 542 00:29:42,930 --> 00:29:46,230 What I'm concerned about right now is not Blackie. 543 00:29:47,210 --> 00:29:48,630 I'm concerned about you. 544 00:29:57,390 --> 00:30:01,330 You're not comfortable ceding control of the situation to anybody. 545 00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:02,710 She's very possessive of him. 546 00:30:03,190 --> 00:30:06,750 It's like the helicopter mother. Patty's not just a helicopter mom when it 547 00:30:06,750 --> 00:30:07,980 comes. to her cat. 548 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,600 Patty's helicoptering over her own mother. What I'm concerned about right 549 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,579 not Blackie. 550 00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:16,080 I'm concerned about you. 551 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,480 Animals sense when you get all tense and I keep saying, just relax. 552 00:30:21,980 --> 00:30:25,340 I am not the problem. Patty's the problem. Mother knows best. 553 00:30:25,620 --> 00:30:27,280 But Patty doesn't listen. 554 00:30:27,540 --> 00:30:33,480 Patty, do you think that your mom is not to be trusted with Blackie? It's me not 555 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,960 wanting to challenge him because I feel so bad. 556 00:30:36,890 --> 00:30:39,450 You don't know where he came from, a really terrible place. 557 00:30:39,870 --> 00:30:44,510 You have a constant picture in your head of the suffering that he went through. 558 00:30:45,050 --> 00:30:48,630 You know, I feel like I'm hurting him. Even though I'm seeing results, like 559 00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:54,390 major results, it's hard for me to do that. The painful job of parenting 560 00:30:54,390 --> 00:30:59,790 is... Letting him go and trusting that it's the best thing for him. He was 561 00:30:59,790 --> 00:31:00,790 to face these challenges. 562 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,940 Right? Yeah. I'm absolutely going to continue to challenge Blackie. I'm not 563 00:31:04,940 --> 00:31:08,540 going to stop. Everything Jackson told me to do has paid off. So what I would 564 00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:13,760 really love to do is actually spend time with him out here and see if I can get 565 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,640 him to show any trust in a stranger that he wouldn't give me the first day I met 566 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,260 him. Good idea. All right, cool. Thank you. See you in a little bit, of course. 567 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:20,919 Thank you. 568 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:21,920 Great to work with you. 569 00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:24,680 Wonderful working with you. I learned a lot about cats. 570 00:31:25,020 --> 00:31:26,020 You're good. 571 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,880 All I'm hoping for is that Blackie comes into the hallway and makes some eye 572 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,980 contact with me. And then I can gauge how his progress is going. 573 00:31:37,340 --> 00:31:38,340 That's nice. 574 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,560 Finally, I get to see Blackie out and about, walking. 575 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,180 You want to go in your base camp? 576 00:31:43,380 --> 00:31:44,380 You go ahead, buddy. 577 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,780 I'm just going to sit and make sure he knows I'm nice and quiet. I'm not a 578 00:31:47,780 --> 00:31:49,040 threat. See what he does. 579 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,160 Good boy. 580 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,120 Not a way to do it. 581 00:31:55,580 --> 00:32:01,340 When Blackie gets into that little cabana, it's proof that base camp 582 00:32:01,340 --> 00:32:06,760 works. Blackie's not running. That's evidence that he is staking claims in 583 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,780 home. Wow, you look like a house cat. 584 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,740 You ready to let me touch you now? 585 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:12,960 Good boy. 586 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,300 Super duper proud of you. 587 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,200 When I first met Blackie... Hey, my friend. 588 00:32:18,910 --> 00:32:23,330 It broke my heart to see this cat frozen stiff in the back of a closet. He 589 00:32:23,330 --> 00:32:27,310 couldn't even move when I was extending my hand or trying to talk to him. 590 00:32:27,670 --> 00:32:28,670 Come on, buddy. 591 00:32:29,130 --> 00:32:30,410 Look at your life, buddy. 592 00:32:31,030 --> 00:32:32,610 You don't want this life, do you? 593 00:32:32,970 --> 00:32:36,890 I asked him, is this how you want to live? And I'm telling you, this is not 594 00:32:36,890 --> 00:32:39,310 crazy cat guy stuff. He didn't want to. 595 00:32:39,650 --> 00:32:43,150 I am hyper proud of you right now. You've come a long way. 596 00:32:43,650 --> 00:32:47,050 It's not perfect, but it's a lot more perfect than a closet. 597 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,140 It's home, buddy. It's home. 598 00:32:50,380 --> 00:32:55,320 You've taken a feral cat out of a parking lot who was going to die out 599 00:32:55,380 --> 00:32:58,360 and you were a hero to him, and you brought him into this home. 600 00:32:58,580 --> 00:33:02,540 I never in a million years expected that I got the payoff that we did. For the 601 00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:06,660 first time in Blackie's life, I think he not only feels safe, but he feels like 602 00:33:06,660 --> 00:33:07,659 he's home. 603 00:33:07,660 --> 00:33:11,100 I couldn't be happier. Thank you so much. You're welcome so much. You're 604 00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:12,480 welcome. You've done a wonderful thing. 605 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:18,660 I fully expect moving forward that as long as Patty can hold true to 606 00:33:18,660 --> 00:33:22,180 Blackie, he is going to just take to the world in a way that he never has 607 00:33:22,180 --> 00:33:25,000 before. I can guarantee that. Great work, Patty. 608 00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:26,220 Thank you. 609 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,060 In my years of working with cats, I've seen them contribute to our well -being 610 00:33:33,060 --> 00:33:37,200 in multiple, unexpected, inspirational ways. And now you can too. 611 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,880 It's my pleasure to share some of their stories with you. Welcome to A Little 612 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,440 Slice of My Cat from Heaven. 613 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,680 Just a few years ago, the concept of a cat cafe was very novel. It started in 614 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,540 Tokyo. People who didn't have time to have cats could go and drink some tea 615 00:33:53,540 --> 00:33:56,980 hang out with those cats. Well, now here on the Lower East Side of New York, 616 00:33:57,060 --> 00:33:59,300 there's a new movement. There's cat cafes. 617 00:33:59,540 --> 00:34:03,360 The difference is these cats, homeless, adoptable cats. 618 00:34:03,850 --> 00:34:07,470 off the streets, out of the shelters, and now at a place called Conecco. 619 00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:12,250 Look at this place. 620 00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:17,550 Hi. Welcome to Conecco Cat Cafe. I'm the owner here, Ben. My name is Ben Kalb. 621 00:34:17,670 --> 00:34:20,530 I'm the founder and owner of Conecco Cat Cafe. 622 00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:26,710 The idea is we have 15 cats, and we have a cafe, and people can hang out with 623 00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:30,889 the cats. They're all rescues from the city's euthanasia list, and they're all 624 00:34:30,889 --> 00:34:32,909 adoptable as well. How long have you been here? 625 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,920 We opened about three months ago. 626 00:34:35,139 --> 00:34:36,139 And how's it going? 627 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,360 Amazing. Turns out people like cats. 628 00:34:38,860 --> 00:34:41,100 Here's your catachino. Get out of here. 629 00:34:41,820 --> 00:34:45,800 Now, have you had adoptions out here? Yeah, so we're averaging about two or 630 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,719 three adoptions a week. Wow. We've done about 20 so far in our first couple 631 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,719 months. Amazing. 632 00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:55,040 Yeah. Now, as much as I would love to sit here and drink more catachinos, I 633 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,660 actually would like to meet some actual cats. I would love that. Yeah, let's go. 634 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,640 Hi, I'm Allison. 635 00:35:00,940 --> 00:35:02,000 Allison, great to meet you. 636 00:35:02,510 --> 00:35:05,470 Nice to see you. Nice to see you guys. 637 00:35:05,690 --> 00:35:11,150 Hi. The idea is really to make cats as comfortable as possible here where you 638 00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:16,010 see them in their best form. As I'm looking at this, I'm just thinking now, 639 00:35:16,010 --> 00:35:20,310 can we bring this to a shelter? You know, we talk about this concept that in 640 00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:24,250 shelter environments, you go in there, a cat jumps on your lap. I can imagine 641 00:35:24,250 --> 00:35:29,250 myself at home with this cat. Time for us to model a home environment so these 642 00:35:29,250 --> 00:35:30,270 cats can go home. 643 00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:34,600 Do we have a cat here who has been here for the entire three months? 644 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,660 Sammy has been here for a while, too. That, to me, is completely mysterious. 645 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,780 Yeah. He's your doorman. Why is Sammy here? 646 00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:47,960 Oh, he can be a little hissy. Now, let me just actually test him out. What 647 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:48,960 happens when I pet you? 648 00:35:49,620 --> 00:35:50,620 Aha! 649 00:35:51,380 --> 00:35:53,100 That's what you're used to seeing, right? 650 00:35:53,820 --> 00:35:58,840 That's why he's here. If you don't mind, I would love to play a little bit. 651 00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,928 Dave, look at this. 652 00:35:59,930 --> 00:36:03,290 Sammy's just like, what is that? Look at that boy. 653 00:36:03,570 --> 00:36:04,570 Yeah, son. 654 00:36:05,010 --> 00:36:06,810 Now let me just actually test him out. 655 00:36:07,310 --> 00:36:08,330 Yeah, you're cool. 656 00:36:08,670 --> 00:36:10,430 I bet you want to get pet now, don't you? 657 00:36:11,130 --> 00:36:12,049 Don't you? 658 00:36:12,050 --> 00:36:14,990 Yeah. Oh, yeah, you're not going to do anything with me right now, are you? 659 00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:20,170 So I feel like if you could engage Sammy in a heavy -duty play session, then by 660 00:36:20,170 --> 00:36:24,110 the time he goes and meets other humans, he's not as snap, crackle, poppy. 661 00:36:24,670 --> 00:36:28,730 really thought about playing with Sammy before the customers come in. I hope 662 00:36:28,730 --> 00:36:32,070 that, you know, by draining his energy, the customers can see the real Sammy. 663 00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:37,630 Well, it has been really fantastic being here. Congratulations. Thank you so 664 00:36:37,630 --> 00:36:39,470 much for coming today. It's been my pleasure. 665 00:36:39,790 --> 00:36:42,890 I came away from Conecco not just feeling inspired, but also feeling a 666 00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:46,930 validated because it's no longer enough for you to just house them. No more 667 00:36:46,930 --> 00:36:47,970 bars, no more cages. 668 00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:51,730 This is the new business model. Bye, guys. Have fun here. 669 00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:53,690 They're like, yeah, that's what we do. 670 00:37:03,310 --> 00:37:06,870 I'm heading in for my last visit with Josh and Grace to check in on Sadie and 671 00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:07,870 Jess's progress. 672 00:37:07,970 --> 00:37:12,490 But the question remains, can these cats live together at all? I have no idea, 673 00:37:12,490 --> 00:37:13,490 and I've got to go find out. 674 00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:16,270 Well, hey. Hey, how's it going? Welcome back. 675 00:37:16,530 --> 00:37:18,190 I gave you guys a... 676 00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:19,570 Ton of homework. 677 00:37:19,870 --> 00:37:22,790 And let's just get right to it. Little cat high where we're building at her 678 00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:26,210 level. She gets a little more comfortable knowing that this space is 679 00:37:26,270 --> 00:37:27,270 Good progress. 680 00:37:27,370 --> 00:37:31,750 And now we're going to try feeding them on either side of the door. See if 681 00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:34,010 Sadie's more interested in us than in attacking Jack. 682 00:37:34,530 --> 00:37:36,890 Okay, now it gets done and she's looking at the door. 683 00:37:37,290 --> 00:37:38,970 Uh -oh. Look at that tail. 684 00:37:41,130 --> 00:37:42,130 And then there's that. 685 00:37:43,330 --> 00:37:44,229 All right. 686 00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:45,990 Base camp expansion seems to have worked. 687 00:37:46,380 --> 00:37:51,220 That said, I'm not seeing what I want out of Sadie. Yeah. At all. And after 688 00:37:51,220 --> 00:37:53,280 this work, that's really troubling. 689 00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:58,100 Knowing that these two cats may never be able to share an open space. Grace, do 690 00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:00,180 you basically take Jess and move out? 691 00:38:01,260 --> 00:38:03,620 This is extremely difficult. 692 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:10,740 We've come so far with Jess, and I feel like she's such a happier, braver cat 693 00:38:10,740 --> 00:38:12,240 than when we started this process. 694 00:38:12,460 --> 00:38:14,900 So I want to keep trying with her. 695 00:38:15,140 --> 00:38:17,390 Okay. So that takes us to a new place. 696 00:38:17,810 --> 00:38:20,970 If there was one other thing that concerned me besides the fight, the last 697 00:38:20,970 --> 00:38:25,490 I was here was that I had to step in. You, Josh, I felt like you froze. 698 00:38:25,770 --> 00:38:28,370 That fight was a wake -up call for us. We talked about everything that went 699 00:38:28,370 --> 00:38:31,650 wrong, how we can avoid it next time. We're feeling confident that we have the 700 00:38:31,650 --> 00:38:35,490 tools we need to break it up on our own. So the last thing left for me to do 701 00:38:35,490 --> 00:38:40,770 with you guys is to put you in a situation with the cats where we can 702 00:38:40,770 --> 00:38:42,850 if you can handle... 703 00:38:43,210 --> 00:38:45,430 Whatever comes your way. I really want to see where they're at. 704 00:38:45,650 --> 00:38:48,190 Okay, so where are the cats right now? 705 00:38:48,430 --> 00:38:51,370 Sadie is in my room right now, and Jess is out here in my room. 706 00:38:51,590 --> 00:38:55,170 Oh, good. Jess is out here. I like that. I couldn't be happier. We have a 707 00:38:55,170 --> 00:38:58,570 different cat than who I started with. She used to hide when she was low down 708 00:38:58,570 --> 00:39:03,010 the ground, but now she's up in that cat tree 100 % mojofied. 709 00:39:03,230 --> 00:39:04,230 Let's make this happen. 710 00:39:04,250 --> 00:39:05,250 Okay. Come on. 711 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,400 What I need to see in order to walk away from here today is that these two cats 712 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,100 can coexist in this house with no bloodshed and that Josh and Grace know 713 00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:14,100 own the situation. 714 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,720 All right, let's go and start leading Sadie in. 715 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,400 So here's the game plan. Josh is going to lead Sadie into the room. 716 00:39:20,620 --> 00:39:25,120 It's about Josh's ability to take control of Sadie. It's about Grace's 717 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:30,100 not to hover over Jess when bad things are happening. These cats are going to 718 00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:32,840 in the same room with nothing standing in between the middle of them. 719 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,700 The last thing I want to happen is a repeat of last time. 720 00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:37,500 There you go. 721 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,800 Last time, I froze up. This time, I plan to redeem myself. 722 00:39:42,420 --> 00:39:43,359 I got a treat. 723 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,360 You want it? 724 00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:46,000 It's going to be right there. 725 00:39:46,220 --> 00:39:47,220 Good girl. 726 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,300 All right. What about this, the toy? 727 00:39:51,460 --> 00:39:52,460 Josh, get in front of her. 728 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,960 Yep. Uh -oh. 729 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,640 Sadie? Hey, uh -oh. 730 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,860 Hey, hey, Sadie? 731 00:40:04,879 --> 00:40:06,120 What about this, the toy? 732 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,320 Josh, get in front of her. 733 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:09,720 Yep. 734 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,440 Sadie? Hey, uh -oh. 735 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,420 Hey, hey, Sadie. 736 00:40:15,220 --> 00:40:16,220 All right. 737 00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:17,920 Josh, move her that way. 738 00:40:18,220 --> 00:40:19,220 Go, go, go, go, go. 739 00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:20,460 Why don't we try a treat? 740 00:40:22,260 --> 00:40:23,260 Yeah. There you go. 741 00:40:24,060 --> 00:40:26,600 Josh, look at you go, man. All right. 742 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,660 Josh handles the business. He was the guy who, when there's any conflict, he's 743 00:40:31,660 --> 00:40:33,540 out of here. Now he is guiding. 744 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,540 Sadie, he's got full control over the situation. I'm proud of him. How are we 745 00:40:37,540 --> 00:40:41,360 doing here? We're doing pretty good. She doesn't feel as, like, paralyzed as she 746 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,360 has in the past. 747 00:40:42,380 --> 00:40:43,380 Come on, Sadie. 748 00:40:43,420 --> 00:40:44,460 Yeah, good girl. 749 00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:48,400 At this moment, all the homework we did, all the training we did, it's finally 750 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,198 paying off. 751 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,760 You guys did very nicely. 752 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,700 Josh, today it felt like you had control. 753 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,180 I'm not scared of it anymore. 754 00:40:56,420 --> 00:40:57,600 It feels good to be in control. 755 00:40:58,100 --> 00:40:59,500 Look, whatever happens... 756 00:40:59,850 --> 00:41:04,490 Jess has come a long way. She's not a cat who has to be confined to a room 757 00:41:04,490 --> 00:41:06,410 because she's too scared. She's taken the space. 758 00:41:06,670 --> 00:41:10,870 So I am proud of you, Jess Bell. And I'm proud of you, too, as well. And I feel 759 00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:13,830 good leaving you guys. And I think that's exactly what I'm going to do. All 760 00:41:13,830 --> 00:41:18,070 right? All right. Jackson has absolutely had a major impact on our life. The 761 00:41:18,070 --> 00:41:21,590 amount of progress that we've made, the amount of confidence and hope that we 762 00:41:21,590 --> 00:41:24,950 now have for the situation, it's night and day compared to where we started. 763 00:41:25,390 --> 00:41:30,470 I think what we've seen is so tremendous that I don't feel guilty living here 764 00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:33,030 anymore. All right, guys. Bye. Take care. Thank you so much. 765 00:41:33,330 --> 00:41:37,550 Bye -bye. I feel really good that I've made a difference in Jess Bell's life. 766 00:41:37,730 --> 00:41:39,930 Jess Bell is not that scared little cat anymore. 767 00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:43,890 Sadie's not going to attack Jess indiscriminately. And the guardians are 768 00:41:43,890 --> 00:41:46,290 committed to this process. They keep following my direction. 769 00:41:46,570 --> 00:41:51,370 Things are going to be okay here. I will put money on a positive outcome in this 770 00:41:51,370 --> 00:41:52,370 house. 771 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,700 The hell isn't over yet. Go to the My Cap From Hell Facebook page for 772 00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:11,900 Microsoft's gifts and much more. 66011

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