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Our cats cannot stand each other.
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There's Jeff's squad hanging out of
Sadie's face.
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Sadie's trying to murder Jeff.
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Everything that we've tried has failed.
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Uh -oh, we've got a huge mess on our
hands.
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I have a 13 -year -old feral cat that I
rescued a year ago. Blackie.
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Blackie stays in the closet because he's
afraid of everybody.
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I mean, cats start destroying
everything.
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Uh -oh, he just urinated under the bed.
She hates cats.
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I don't hate cats. And Blackie's picking
up on it. She thought Blackie was
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possessed.
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It's like an exorcism. My daughter has
lost her sense of reality.
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Oh, here we go. Here we go.
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I'm Jack from Galaxy.
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I am Cat.
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The animal behavior, the guardian's
call, and they're dealing with a
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cat.
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Wow, he really got you.
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I'm out to prove that there is no such
thing as a bad cat.
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Just a cat that needs my help. You did
it.
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Hi, I'm Grace.
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And I'm Josh.
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Grace and I are best friends who live
together with our two cats. We love
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together. It's the perfect situation,
theoretically, but our cats cannot stand
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each other.
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My cat Sadie is nine years old. My cat
Jeff Bell is three years old.
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Sadie is a wonderful cat who turns into
a crazy monster every time she has
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access to Jeff.
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Sadie, no! Stop! We have tried
everything to keep the peace.
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We read all the material, we started
them separate, and we started with
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and we started with shared defense, and
everything that we've tried has failed
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miserably. The only solution we've been
able to agree upon was to
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keep them separate at all times.
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Jess Bell gets to go out at night, and
Sadie has the apartment during the day.
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Going to the lengths to keep them
sequestered has taken a strain on our
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relationship because we have to choose
between spending time together or
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spending time with our cats.
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I would not feel comfortable leaving the
two of them alone for fear one of them
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might not come out alive.
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There's a piece of Jess's claw hanging
out of Sadie's face.
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We can't enjoy our cats at all because
Jess is terrified of Sadie and Sadie is
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always trying to murder Jess. No.
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Please, Jackson, help us so I don't have
to move out, so I don't lose my
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friendship with Jess.
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Hey. Hi. I'm Jackson.
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Who's this?
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This is Sadie. Oh, hi, Sadie. Yeah.
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Is Sadie our problem?
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Sadie's the initiator. As soon as we
introduce Jess Bell, she becomes a
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How long have you guys lived together?
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18 months. Yeah, about that. Tell me.
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How these cats came to hate each other.
Like they hated each other from moment
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one. And when you say hate, hate looks
like I see you and I just want you dead.
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Yeah. And when we moved in together, we
talked about like our plan and like it
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was going to take months. What was the
plan?
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We did scent exchanges first.
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How did that go? There weren't any red
flags. It wasn't like I smelled you and
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hissed at the bag? Not really, no. In
fact, it seemed like we were making
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genuine progress until they actually
could see each other.
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The first time that they encountered
each other, they had a vicious fight.
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I mean, we found blood.
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Blood is a game changer because it means
I do want to hurt you. I don't want to
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scare you off. I don't want to claim
dominance. I want to hurt you. And
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bad news.
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Have you guys ever thought about it
comes to a point where we just can't
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together? Yep.
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We definitely have. The more we live
together with the cats unhappy, the more
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think we are becoming unhappy.
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We just continue to feel really guilty
that we're making the cats' lives
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terrible by forcing them to live in the
same apartment.
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I feel like I'm just torn between what's
best for my living situation and what's
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best for my cat's life.
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I feel like I'm failing her.
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How are you guys doing with this whole
thing? Are you united front? Are you
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guys...
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Oh. I mean... Okay, wait, wait. I just
hit something.
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Let's hear from the person who just made
the face. You guys don't approach this
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the same way or what? No. From the get
-go, every time there's been a fight,
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just for me to cope with it, I've needed
to have a plan. And for Josh to cope
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with it, he needs to physically leave
the apartment. If there's a fight? After
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there's a fight, yeah.
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When they fight, I totally shut down. I
just...
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kind of become an emotional wreck.
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That, of course, leaves Grace to pick up
the pieces. Yes.
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When there's conflict between these
cats, Josh is a vapor trail. He's gone.
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You can't do that. If your cat is
causing a fight, you've got to break it
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You've got to take charge of the
situation. You can't just walk away and
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Grace deal with the whole mess. This is
not fair.
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I would love to see Jess. Where's she
at? She's hiding under my bed. Oh, God,
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really? Yeah. Grace, let's go and visit
Jess and see if we can get her to say
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hi. What I'm looking for is the level of
fear. Is she glued to the back of that
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headboard? I'm looking for that 1 to 10,
where is the fear?
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Try to get her to take a treat. Want a
treat?
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Good girl, Jeff.
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She's not looking so bad, Grace.
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This is a success.
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We got her out from under the bed. She's
not in that 7 to 10 range of scared.
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She's more like, you know, 2 to 4. That
means we can work with her, which is
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great. That's a good girl.
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That's what I wanted.
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Yay. Josh and Grace are an unusual case
in that they've been living with this
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ordeal for a while. They've tried a lot
of things, and nothing has worked. So
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now they're just paralyzed by the fear
of more of these awful fights happening.
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So the first thing that I want to do is
show Josh that he can redirect Sadie
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away from Jess Bell with food and play.
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Now, it is risky putting two cats with
this kind of history in the same space
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together, but given our circumstances, I
don't see any other choice.
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So here's how it's going to go. Grace,
I'm going to have you take Jess, and I'm
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going to have you guys settle in by the
front door, that area there.
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I'm going to take a baby gate. I'm going
to put it across the hallway here.
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Then, Josh, your job is going to be,
Sadie's in your room right now. I'm
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to have you lead her, whether that's
with treats, toys, whatever it's going
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take. The whole goal, I want her to walk
down the hallway and walk in here.
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That's it.
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Because she's going to have to walk by
Jess and Grace.
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And go, okay, all we need is for one cat
to walk by another cat without all
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kinds of mayhem breaking loose. Okay?
Okay.
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Not only are the cats going to be so
close together, but it's my job to keep
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Sadie distracted.
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I can't say for sure whether I'll be
able to do this, but I'm really going to
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try. This is going to be a disaster.
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Great. As soon as you get her, I'm going
to fence you guys in a little bit.
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The humans expect me to come in and
challenge their cats, but they don't
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to be challenged themselves, and that's
what we've got to do. Now, this might
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not be the Wild West, but I've got to
set up a duel between these two cats.
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Hopefully it doesn't end with someone
taking a bullet.
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Fingers crossed.
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Sadie. I am terrified that Josh isn't
going to be able to distract Sadie. I
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trust Jackson, but I'm honestly afraid
we could end up in the emergency room.
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All right. Look, I got another treat.
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Sadie. Here we go.
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Good. Fantastic.
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Okay,
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now she sees her. We've got eye contact
going on here, guys.
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Josh, I want you to break out that toy.
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Toy, go back towards your bedroom.
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Yeah, go.
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See, now she's locking on target.
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What do you want worse?
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As Jess and Sadie's eyes lock, I'm
thinking, this is it. This is the moment
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it all goes downhill.
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She hasn't, like, hissed, though, yet.
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That tail is going.
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Josh, it's all on you.
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Sadie, come over here.
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Now we have a hit.
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Face to face, eyes are locked, hitting,
not good.
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Looking for a way around, aren't you?
Look, Sadie could easily leap right over
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me, and we've got a huge mess on our
hands. This could go either way right
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Sadie, keep her low.
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Looking for a way around, aren't you?
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Look, Sadie could easily leap right over
me, and we've got a huge mess on our
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hands. Sadie, leave her alone.
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You've kept her face to face.
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Josh has to take ownership of the
situation and stay there. This is a game
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what I call cat chess.
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Jess can't move one way or the other
right now because that is a stare down.
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If she moves, it's game on. Josh, I want
you to be present here.
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If you can guide her, really present it
to her. Okay, towards your rear. There
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you go. Done.
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Wow. Wow.
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Holy cow.
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You see this?
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Yeah. You guys watch this?
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I can't believe Josh is stepping up and
Sadie's actually responding. Like, I'm
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completely floored. Sadie is very
focused on her, but I can break that
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which I didn't think I could do before.
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Good. I mean, this is the best they've
ever done in the same room together by
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far. Okay. Yeah, ever. Fantastic.
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Sadie is showing us that she can be
interested in something besides getting
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target. That's a great sign, man.
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Josh just led Sadie away. So the
exercise itself was an amazing success.
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That's awesome.
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Now, you, my friend, we got gates gone,
we got cats gone, and we have a frozen
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solid cat sitting right here. What I'm
seeing from Jeff Bell is a little
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depressing. It's embedded trauma. We
have a history of a lot of bloodshed,
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infected bites.
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We got to break it down.
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Number one, in terms of...
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Switching sides of the house, no more
status quo. I want you to start getting
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these guys acclimated to owning the
entire space.
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Okay. Does Sadie ever get into your
bedroom? At this point, never.
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Never? Does Jess ever go into your
bedroom? I don't think she's ever seen
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inside of my bedroom. What?
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Since that's Sadie's territory, we've
never, that's like never even been a
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Yeah, I don't think it's, honestly, I
don't think it's ever even crossed my
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mind. It is now. It is now. For
instance, you've got... Sadie, out here,
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take Jeff for a minute into your bedroom
and hang there. Do whatever it takes to
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normalize that environment. We're going
to start working on catification of the
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house. I'm looking around here.
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Nothing above here. There's nothing
above here for cats to go on. I want you
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start exploring how you can use this
space more effectively. We did have
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here today.
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It's not going to be that way every
time, I promise you. Things are going to
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bad again. The difference is that when
things go south, You will know what to
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without completely freaking out, okay?
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Josh, it's really important that you
stay present.
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It's a parental responsibility.
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So it's a fantastic start. There's a lot
more work to be done, but it's not
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hopeless. I know it's a lot of work, and
I feel like it's all riding on me. I
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really hope with Jackson's help we can
stay roommates and no cats die in the
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process.
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Pleasure, guys. All right, take care.
You too. Look, if I come back here next
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time and Grace and Josh have not changed
everything about the way they operate,
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we're going to have fights. We're going
to have bloodshed, plain and simple. The
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humans have got to step up if we expect
the cats to stand out.
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Where are you going, Blackie?
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I'm Patty.
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And I'm Catherine, Patty's mom.
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I have two cats, Mini -Me, I've had for
about 11 years, and Blackie, a 13 -year
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-old feral cat that I rescued and
brought home a year ago.
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Everything was fine until these cats
start destroying everything, including
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relationship.
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My mother moved here, and that's when
all hell broke loose.
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Everything spiraled out of control
quickly.
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Blackie. He just urinated under the bed.
It smells like incense -covered pee.
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There was urinating everywhere,
defecation. I was very upset.
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We're lighting candles.
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In her case, she's praying.
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In my case, it's to get the smell out of
here.
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Blackie stays in the closet because he's
afraid of everybody. There was
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defecation in the closet as well. Holy
cow.
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I think Blackie is wonderful.
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He's misunderstood.
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And I just need some guidance here.
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How do you misunderstand a bad odor?
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Well, we fight about these cats all the
time. All the time. My daughter has lost
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her sense of reality.
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Oh, here we go. Here we go.
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If Blackie's behavior doesn't improve,
we will be evicted.
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That's what she thinks.
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It's frightening. I'm tired of living
with this crap.
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There goes my reputation. You need to go
to confession.
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I'm losing my dignity.
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They're driving me up a wall.
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Jackson, if you don't help Blackie,
nobody can. Please help Jackson.
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Hey. Jackson!
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Come on in.
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This is my mother, Catherine.
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Hey, Catherine. Hi, Jackson. Nice to
meet you.
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I know there's a pretty deep backstory
with you and Blackie. You want to tell
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about it a little bit? Right. He was
born on the streets at a car lot.
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I was selling cars.
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That cat was with me every single day.
The other cats that have lived there,
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they die a terrible death. They get hit
by cars. People throw things at them.
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I've even seen antifreeze put in the
water.
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Blackie, I was able to get him fixed.
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Get him shot.
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And Blackie wound up coming with you.
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Yes. It's a miracle that he survived
what he did. What Patty did is really
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remarkable. I mean, typically the
opportunity to became a feral cat is
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much lost by the time they're an adult.
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Patty started caring for Blackie at such
an early age. Thus, over time, he came
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to know and trust her as his primary
human.
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One of the things that really sent me
over here was sort of this sad...
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concept that he had really backed
himself into like a closet.
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He lives in the closet. Well, that's a
big one. It's kind of like a little
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prison. Blackie's story is one that I've
heard and seen where we see a feral cat
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who's in trouble and we just want to
save them. And in saving them, we just
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them in another version of hell. And
that is in our home.
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So we got a cat living in a closet.
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What leads me here now? He started to
come around and everything was great.
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my mother moved here and that's when all
hell broke loose. He started to go to
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the bathroom under my bed.
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I put everything under there to block
the bed. And then it was just, I put two
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litter boxes for Blackie. And? He uses
the one in the corner. But he doesn't
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the litter box now. Yep, yep, yep. But
the door's shut. But he is back to using
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the litter box. Yes.
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So the current situation is very
different. We're not dealing with the
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poop thing. So you guys are copacetic
now in terms of their...
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No. No.
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I have a theory.
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He hates cats. No, I don't hate cats.
And black is picking up on it. That's
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true. And then she makes me wear these
crazy gloves with cat written on them
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that she wrote with nail polish. Hang
on. Pump your brakes.
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Shorty.
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Pump your brakes.
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I'm not allowed to open cat food around
her because it makes her gag. I'm tired.
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I don't want to be eating larvae and
stuff. No larvae. There's no larvae. She
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was never this wacky. She even put holy
water around the house. I did. I was
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ready to cry.
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You never saw such a disaster in your
life. I come around the corner, I get a
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snoop full of holy water.
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Father, son, spirit.
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She thought Blackie was possessed.
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It's like an exorcism. Did you have any
interaction with Blackie when you... No,
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I kept my door shut because...
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I don't like cats sleeping on my bed.
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You don't like cats? I don't like cats.
I like cats. I got that part. There is a
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lot of back and forth between Patty and
Catherine, but I think I'm finally on to
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what's happened here. When Catherine
moved in with Patty, Blackie responded
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marking his territory and hiding in the
closet.
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Now, by adding litter boxes and closing
the door, they took care of the
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spraying, but the bigger problem was
worse than ever.
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Blackie is a cat who is scared to death
and still won't leave Patty's closet.
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I don't. I had cats. I had many cats.
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But you've gotten less tolerant of them.
You couldn't live with this.
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Talking to Patty and to Catherine,
there's a comedy going on. In the next
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there's a tragedy playing out because I
know that right over there, something
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really heartbreaking is happening.
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What I need is to go meet Blackie. I've
got to spend some time with him and
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figure out where to go from there.
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Hey, my friend.
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Why is there poop in the closet?
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The fact that there's poop in the closet
right now concerns me even more.
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Because that's telling me that just
because I came to the house, he got
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enough to poop in the closet. That's bad
news, man.
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I just want you to use your nose.
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What is that?
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Come on, buddy.
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Just smell it.
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Can't even get you to smell it. Okay, so
that's kind of a bummer.
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My worst fears are confirmed.
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He is a cat in a house.
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who doesn't want to be in a house.
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Now what?
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Look at your life, buddy.
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You don't want this life, do you?
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Don't you want a bigger life?
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My worst fears are confirmed.
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He is a cat in a house who doesn't want
to be in a house.
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Uh, hmm.
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I don't like that.
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No, I don't like that. I'm not going to
lie to you, Patty.
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I mean, you've got a feral cat in your
bedroom.
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He doesn't know any other way of living.
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I went in there and tried to hang out
with a cat who was a frozen cat in the
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closet. That's who he is.
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As troubled as I am that I can't get
Blackie out of the closet right now, I
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still think there's reason for hope.
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Patty and Blackie's relationship goes
back many years to when he was living at
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that used car lot that she worked at.
And so there's this underlying layer of
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trust that Patty earned from Blackie.
I'm convinced that we can build on that
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relationship to give Blackie a bigger
life beyond Patty's closet.
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You've done a wonderful thing for a cat.
Now we've got to teach him.
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Right. So I'm going to give you guys
some exercises to do with Blackie. We're
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going to work on base camp expansion.
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I want to start bringing beds, cat
trees, and litter boxes out to the rest
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the house so that everything has its
scent on it. The food bowl, let's start
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bringing it towards that door, getting
it past the door, leading him out. But
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every time he gets to a destination, he
goes, oh, yeah, this is mine. I own
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this. Now, here's the tough part. The
problem's not about litter boxes.
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It was Catherine.
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You came into the picture, and suddenly
the cat disappeared.
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So, Catherine, I need you to start being
a part of his life that brings good
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things. No.
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No. You want me to run away. No, I want
you to be his friend.
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Are you okay?
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Are you all right?
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In order to solve this problem,
Catherine has to be part of the
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All right, guys, if you have any
questions or anything, you let me know,
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All right. All right.
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If Blackie is still frozen stiff by the
time I come back here next time, that
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tells me.
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Catherine didn't live up to her end of
the bargain, and I got a cat who's still
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going to break my heart every time I see
him.
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Well,
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I'm here for my second visit with Josh
and Grace and their cats, Sadie and
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Jessville. Let me tell you, when I first
met these two cats, every encounter was
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a bloody one.
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I have no idea what I'm going to find
walking into this place. Hopefully what
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am going to see is two cats who haven't
killed each other.
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How are you, man?
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I sent you guys a way to shake
everything up. Tell me about it. We
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everything we were doing and just threw
everything out the window. I'm more
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confident that I have sway over her to
keep her distracted.
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Josh is convinced if a fight breaks up,
he's going to be able to man up and stop
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it. I'm not so confident it will go that
easily.
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Let's say it doesn't work that way. Are
you out the door? I'm fully committed to
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staying in control and not letting my
nerves get the better of me. I'm really
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just wanting to dig into your homework.
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Let's watch it.
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All right, ladies, secure.
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Time to get Jess Bell.
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Okay, there's no lady in here.
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Look, pretty interesting in here.
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Somebody's just chill in here, huh?
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Hey, Shelly.
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See, you can have access to this room
all night.
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Isn't that going to be exciting?
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I think, based on what I'm seeing from
Jess Bell, that she's demonstrating
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enough confidence to stand up to Sadie.
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That's fantastic.
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You know what? I want to go check out
your catification.
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Let's go on over here. Look.
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Fantastic. I really love the fact that
Grace and Josh used Square Cat Habitat
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shelving system for this room because it
looks good and it works well. They
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really showed me that they're serious
about this. Look at you.
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Look at how completely at peace she is.
The last time I was here, I saw great
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progress from Josh. He was redirecting
Sadie away from Jessville, but this time
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around, because Sadie is so comfortable
up high on these new shelves, I'm going
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to have Jess come in on ground level
with Sadie watching her from above.
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Now that puts both of these cats in the
same room without a barrier in between
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them except for Josh.
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Now this is high risk, high reward for
everybody. Because if it works, it's a
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huge breakthrough. And if it doesn't, we
are back to square one.
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All right.
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I am not ready for Jess and Sadie to
come face to face. I'm really worried
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how it's going to go down.
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If there is a cat fight right now, it's
not the best outcome.
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But we've got to find out where we
stand.
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Worst case scenario, Jess and Sadie
attack each other and I get in there and
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stop that fight right away.
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That's how confident I'm feeling.
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So now, here we go.
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Grace, just carry Jess in, and we're
going to put her right around here.
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Now, what you can do is head on over to
her. You can go and talk to her or
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whatever. In the meantime, what do we
got?
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What do you think?
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It's your favorite, Jess. What is it?
Now, I like the fact that she's hanging
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out.
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Worst case scenario, Sadie turns into a
sadist, bolts down, and she completely
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goes to town on Jess and beats her up,
and Josh is gone.
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And this ends in a bloody, hairy mess.
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Now, Josh, treat.
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Treat. Good.
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Good going.
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Josh, lead her up.
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Uh -oh.
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Josh, we got a fight going on. No, no,
no, no.
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Good going.
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Josh, lead her up.
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Uh -oh.
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Josh? We got a fight going on. No, no,
no, no.
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Fight's over.
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Well, that's it. Wait, wait, wait.
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Josh, pick up your cat. She goes into
your bedroom.
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Okay.
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I got information about the baby from
this, that when she sees Jess, she's not
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trying to intimidate her, she's not
trying to walk her down, and she's not
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stalking her.
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She wants to kill her.
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What happened, baby?
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What happened?
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It's okay.
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It's okay, guys.
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Come here. I learned a lot about the
humans in this process as well.
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Josh throws solids.
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Well, clearly that experiment didn't
work.
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Epic fail, especially by Josh.
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We have to at this point say that's the
last time that happens, because she
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can't take it anymore.
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Jess has been knocked down a peg again,
and we have got to get her back on the
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horse tonight and build her back up.
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For homework, we have to really work on
her, and it's about working on her
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confidence. We have to get Jess more
secure in a larger territory because
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confident cats are less likely to be
seen as prey and get attacked.
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One of the biggest things that I heard
today was that if Grace is not home, she
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does not come out, and that can't
continue.
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This time around with homework, embrace
the idea of what I call base camp
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expansion. So that is all the good stuff
that smells like her and smells like
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you that's in your room. Start bringing
it out.
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I want her to feel like she's got a home
in every room in the house. I want you
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guys to create a safe enough environment
for her that when you open that door,
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she's out.
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00:25:05,330 --> 00:25:09,250
Next piece of homework is I want them to
do an introductory feeding exercise at
457
00:25:09,250 --> 00:25:12,750
a closed door. This way the cats get to
introduce themselves through scent and
458
00:25:12,750 --> 00:25:16,370
reintroduce themselves in a non
-threatening way. But, of course, the
459
00:25:16,370 --> 00:25:19,610
important part of homework is when I
walk out this door, you guys lift each
460
00:25:19,610 --> 00:25:20,750
other up. I know it's hard.
461
00:25:21,150 --> 00:25:25,030
We saw what's happened. Sometimes you
have miracles, and sometimes you get
462
00:25:25,030 --> 00:25:29,290
crashing back down to Earth. The good
side is I'm not sensing any injuries on
463
00:25:29,290 --> 00:25:29,989
her part.
464
00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:34,770
But please, trust me, we can do this.
You guys got to support each other right
465
00:25:34,770 --> 00:25:38,030
now. We faced our biggest fear today,
and it was a complete nightmare.
466
00:25:38,290 --> 00:25:41,330
A part of me is just really terrified
that it's a lost cause.
467
00:25:41,670 --> 00:25:44,490
We're not just fighting for our
friendship and being roommates. We're
468
00:25:44,490 --> 00:25:47,190
for our cat's happiness and our cat's
quality of life.
469
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:50,540
I am not going to give up. All right,
guys. I will see you in a few weeks.
470
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,020
Absolutely. I believe that ultimately
Josh and Grace can do this because I've
471
00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:59,960
seen Josh step up and take control. I
know he has it in him. Plus, I've seen
472
00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:05,000
Sadie choose food and play over fighting
with Jess Bell, so I know she can be
473
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,980
distracted. Despite what we saw today, I
think this is still a workable
474
00:26:08,980 --> 00:26:10,600
situation, although not the easiest.
475
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,220
Where are you going, Blackie?
476
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,660
I'm heading over to meet up with Patty
and Catherine and to check in on
477
00:26:23,660 --> 00:26:24,599
Blackie's progress.
478
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,020
Last time I was here, it was just a
circus. There was larva talk and fear of
479
00:26:29,020 --> 00:26:32,180
litter. And the poor cat that was stuck
in the closet. I don't know what I'm
480
00:26:32,180 --> 00:26:34,940
walking into. But hopefully, you've got
a cat now living in the closet.
481
00:26:35,140 --> 00:26:39,720
It's a very strange place to find
yourself with a feral cat in your house.
482
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,589
have you been seeing?
483
00:26:40,590 --> 00:26:43,910
Oh, my gosh. Night and day. There's no
litter box scandal.
484
00:26:44,130 --> 00:26:46,530
There's no defecating or urinating
anywhere.
485
00:26:47,010 --> 00:26:48,250
It's a dream come true.
486
00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:49,650
That's fantastic news.
487
00:26:49,870 --> 00:26:52,770
Now, Catherine, did you have any moments
with him that surprised you?
488
00:26:54,090 --> 00:26:58,550
He's been good with me. You know,
gradually came along to get his food.
489
00:26:58,550 --> 00:27:02,010
surprising and good. Hearing about the
progress, I think Blackie's really
490
00:27:02,010 --> 00:27:04,390
stepping up to the challenge. Now, I've
got to see this for myself.
491
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:05,710
Let's take a look.
492
00:27:09,060 --> 00:27:12,100
Great. Blackie's going to freak out when
he comes out of the closet.
493
00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:16,920
I put a litter box in the living room.
Do you expand the base camp?
494
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:23,320
Blackie is smelling everything, and this
base camping seems to be working.
495
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,399
Look at that.
496
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,040
I'm seeing scent soakers and food placed
all around the house where the open
497
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,360
doors are, encouraging Blackie to
explore his new territory.
498
00:27:31,820 --> 00:27:35,500
This is what base camp expansion is all
about, and it's really paying off for
499
00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:37,220
Blackie. Whoa, there you go.
500
00:27:37,930 --> 00:27:41,250
You can see in the homework, by the way,
that Blackie is interacting with Mini
501
00:27:41,250 --> 00:27:44,570
-Me, that Mini -Me was never the problem
here. These two cats don't have an
502
00:27:44,570 --> 00:27:47,850
issue with each other. It was Catherine
that Blackie had an issue with all
503
00:27:47,850 --> 00:27:49,350
along, and they're making some progress.
504
00:27:49,630 --> 00:27:50,630
There you go.
505
00:27:51,170 --> 00:27:55,630
Watching the homework makes me feel
completely exhilarated. Look at Blackie.
506
00:27:55,710 --> 00:27:59,110
He's coming out. He's interacting with
Mini -Me. He's eating in the middle of
507
00:27:59,110 --> 00:28:03,230
the hallway. The Base Camp expansion
thing worked very well.
508
00:28:03,770 --> 00:28:06,950
Evidence that I'm seeing so far is
bananas good.
509
00:28:07,390 --> 00:28:09,430
Blackie has to learn to trust you.
510
00:28:09,810 --> 00:28:11,750
She's going to try to lure Blackie out.
511
00:28:12,170 --> 00:28:13,170
Okay,
512
00:28:14,430 --> 00:28:16,070
so he knows it's out here.
513
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:21,630
Okay, all right. I think we can stop
talking and see if he comes out.
514
00:28:21,870 --> 00:28:24,830
Okay, just push the food in front of the
door.
515
00:28:25,630 --> 00:28:26,630
Okay, put it down.
516
00:28:26,770 --> 00:28:27,549
Put it down.
517
00:28:27,550 --> 00:28:29,130
Okay, back out. Back out. Back out.
518
00:28:29,450 --> 00:28:30,870
Here in the living room.
519
00:28:32,270 --> 00:28:34,570
That's a good boy. Okay, back out. Walk
away.
520
00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:40,950
So. Of all the good stuff I saw with
Blackie, there was a lot of tense little
521
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:45,930
moments where you're trying to
accomplish something with Blackie and
522
00:28:46,050 --> 00:28:47,810
you're being a little on.
523
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,580
Top of the situation.
524
00:28:49,860 --> 00:28:54,120
The dynamic I'm seeing between Patty and
Catherine, too much direction giving,
525
00:28:54,260 --> 00:28:56,980
too much noise and static. She's very
possessive of him.
526
00:28:57,580 --> 00:28:59,220
It's like the helicopter mother.
527
00:28:59,420 --> 00:29:02,640
Takes one to know one and the apple
doesn't fall far from the tree.
528
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,300
Crab apple. I got to be perfectly honest
with you. We had a couple little
529
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:08,120
fights. She thinks I'm going to.
530
00:29:08,570 --> 00:29:11,730
Ruffle the feathers or something. You
just want to keep Blackie in that room
531
00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:15,350
forever. That's not fair to Blackie. Oh,
no, no, no, no. Patty doesn't want
532
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:16,530
Blackie like anybody.
533
00:29:16,830 --> 00:29:18,030
She wants him all to herself.
534
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:21,930
All of the boys. You make me sound like
a cat. You make me sound like a cat
535
00:29:21,930 --> 00:29:23,970
freak. She's overprotective.
536
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:26,090
Afraid he's going to have a breakdown or
something.
537
00:29:26,810 --> 00:29:31,290
I know you were trying, but you're not
comfortable ceding control of the
538
00:29:31,290 --> 00:29:32,290
situation to anybody.
539
00:29:32,610 --> 00:29:36,970
Patty is a control freak with her
animals. She never stops. Just because I
540
00:29:36,970 --> 00:29:37,990
like he got...
541
00:29:38,270 --> 00:29:42,810
And I know how much he can take. If it's
overstimulation, he's out of there.
542
00:29:42,930 --> 00:29:46,230
What I'm concerned about right now is
not Blackie.
543
00:29:47,210 --> 00:29:48,630
I'm concerned about you.
544
00:29:57,390 --> 00:30:01,330
You're not comfortable ceding control of
the situation to anybody.
545
00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:02,710
She's very possessive of him.
546
00:30:03,190 --> 00:30:06,750
It's like the helicopter mother. Patty's
not just a helicopter mom when it
547
00:30:06,750 --> 00:30:07,980
comes. to her cat.
548
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,600
Patty's helicoptering over her own
mother. What I'm concerned about right
549
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,579
not Blackie.
550
00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:16,080
I'm concerned about you.
551
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,480
Animals sense when you get all tense and
I keep saying, just relax.
552
00:30:21,980 --> 00:30:25,340
I am not the problem. Patty's the
problem. Mother knows best.
553
00:30:25,620 --> 00:30:27,280
But Patty doesn't listen.
554
00:30:27,540 --> 00:30:33,480
Patty, do you think that your mom is not
to be trusted with Blackie? It's me not
555
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,960
wanting to challenge him because I feel
so bad.
556
00:30:36,890 --> 00:30:39,450
You don't know where he came from, a
really terrible place.
557
00:30:39,870 --> 00:30:44,510
You have a constant picture in your head
of the suffering that he went through.
558
00:30:45,050 --> 00:30:48,630
You know, I feel like I'm hurting him.
Even though I'm seeing results, like
559
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:54,390
major results, it's hard for me to do
that. The painful job of parenting
560
00:30:54,390 --> 00:30:59,790
is... Letting him go and trusting that
it's the best thing for him. He was
561
00:30:59,790 --> 00:31:00,790
to face these challenges.
562
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,940
Right? Yeah. I'm absolutely going to
continue to challenge Blackie. I'm not
563
00:31:04,940 --> 00:31:08,540
going to stop. Everything Jackson told
me to do has paid off. So what I would
564
00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:13,760
really love to do is actually spend time
with him out here and see if I can get
565
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,640
him to show any trust in a stranger that
he wouldn't give me the first day I met
566
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,260
him. Good idea. All right, cool. Thank
you. See you in a little bit, of course.
567
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:20,919
Thank you.
568
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:21,920
Great to work with you.
569
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:24,680
Wonderful working with you. I learned a
lot about cats.
570
00:31:25,020 --> 00:31:26,020
You're good.
571
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,880
All I'm hoping for is that Blackie comes
into the hallway and makes some eye
572
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,980
contact with me. And then I can gauge
how his progress is going.
573
00:31:37,340 --> 00:31:38,340
That's nice.
574
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,560
Finally, I get to see Blackie out and
about, walking.
575
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,180
You want to go in your base camp?
576
00:31:43,380 --> 00:31:44,380
You go ahead, buddy.
577
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,780
I'm just going to sit and make sure he
knows I'm nice and quiet. I'm not a
578
00:31:47,780 --> 00:31:49,040
threat. See what he does.
579
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,160
Good boy.
580
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,120
Not a way to do it.
581
00:31:55,580 --> 00:32:01,340
When Blackie gets into that little
cabana, it's proof that base camp
582
00:32:01,340 --> 00:32:06,760
works. Blackie's not running. That's
evidence that he is staking claims in
583
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,780
home. Wow, you look like a house cat.
584
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,740
You ready to let me touch you now?
585
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:12,960
Good boy.
586
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,300
Super duper proud of you.
587
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,200
When I first met Blackie... Hey, my
friend.
588
00:32:18,910 --> 00:32:23,330
It broke my heart to see this cat frozen
stiff in the back of a closet. He
589
00:32:23,330 --> 00:32:27,310
couldn't even move when I was extending
my hand or trying to talk to him.
590
00:32:27,670 --> 00:32:28,670
Come on, buddy.
591
00:32:29,130 --> 00:32:30,410
Look at your life, buddy.
592
00:32:31,030 --> 00:32:32,610
You don't want this life, do you?
593
00:32:32,970 --> 00:32:36,890
I asked him, is this how you want to
live? And I'm telling you, this is not
594
00:32:36,890 --> 00:32:39,310
crazy cat guy stuff. He didn't want to.
595
00:32:39,650 --> 00:32:43,150
I am hyper proud of you right now.
You've come a long way.
596
00:32:43,650 --> 00:32:47,050
It's not perfect, but it's a lot more
perfect than a closet.
597
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,140
It's home, buddy. It's home.
598
00:32:50,380 --> 00:32:55,320
You've taken a feral cat out of a
parking lot who was going to die out
599
00:32:55,380 --> 00:32:58,360
and you were a hero to him, and you
brought him into this home.
600
00:32:58,580 --> 00:33:02,540
I never in a million years expected that
I got the payoff that we did. For the
601
00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:06,660
first time in Blackie's life, I think he
not only feels safe, but he feels like
602
00:33:06,660 --> 00:33:07,659
he's home.
603
00:33:07,660 --> 00:33:11,100
I couldn't be happier. Thank you so
much. You're welcome so much. You're
604
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:12,480
welcome. You've done a wonderful thing.
605
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:18,660
I fully expect moving forward that as
long as Patty can hold true to
606
00:33:18,660 --> 00:33:22,180
Blackie, he is going to just take to the
world in a way that he never has
607
00:33:22,180 --> 00:33:25,000
before. I can guarantee that. Great
work, Patty.
608
00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:26,220
Thank you.
609
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,060
In my years of working with cats, I've
seen them contribute to our well -being
610
00:33:33,060 --> 00:33:37,200
in multiple, unexpected, inspirational
ways. And now you can too.
611
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,880
It's my pleasure to share some of their
stories with you. Welcome to A Little
612
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,440
Slice of My Cat from Heaven.
613
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,680
Just a few years ago, the concept of a
cat cafe was very novel. It started in
614
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,540
Tokyo. People who didn't have time to
have cats could go and drink some tea
615
00:33:53,540 --> 00:33:56,980
hang out with those cats. Well, now here
on the Lower East Side of New York,
616
00:33:57,060 --> 00:33:59,300
there's a new movement. There's cat
cafes.
617
00:33:59,540 --> 00:34:03,360
The difference is these cats, homeless,
adoptable cats.
618
00:34:03,850 --> 00:34:07,470
off the streets, out of the shelters,
and now at a place called Conecco.
619
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:12,250
Look at this place.
620
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:17,550
Hi. Welcome to Conecco Cat Cafe. I'm the
owner here, Ben. My name is Ben Kalb.
621
00:34:17,670 --> 00:34:20,530
I'm the founder and owner of Conecco Cat
Cafe.
622
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:26,710
The idea is we have 15 cats, and we have
a cafe, and people can hang out with
623
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:30,889
the cats. They're all rescues from the
city's euthanasia list, and they're all
624
00:34:30,889 --> 00:34:32,909
adoptable as well. How long have you
been here?
625
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,920
We opened about three months ago.
626
00:34:35,139 --> 00:34:36,139
And how's it going?
627
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,360
Amazing. Turns out people like cats.
628
00:34:38,860 --> 00:34:41,100
Here's your catachino. Get out of here.
629
00:34:41,820 --> 00:34:45,800
Now, have you had adoptions out here?
Yeah, so we're averaging about two or
630
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,719
three adoptions a week. Wow. We've done
about 20 so far in our first couple
631
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,719
months. Amazing.
632
00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:55,040
Yeah. Now, as much as I would love to
sit here and drink more catachinos, I
633
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,660
actually would like to meet some actual
cats. I would love that. Yeah, let's go.
634
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,640
Hi, I'm Allison.
635
00:35:00,940 --> 00:35:02,000
Allison, great to meet you.
636
00:35:02,510 --> 00:35:05,470
Nice to see you. Nice to see you guys.
637
00:35:05,690 --> 00:35:11,150
Hi. The idea is really to make cats as
comfortable as possible here where you
638
00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:16,010
see them in their best form. As I'm
looking at this, I'm just thinking now,
639
00:35:16,010 --> 00:35:20,310
can we bring this to a shelter? You
know, we talk about this concept that in
640
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:24,250
shelter environments, you go in there, a
cat jumps on your lap. I can imagine
641
00:35:24,250 --> 00:35:29,250
myself at home with this cat. Time for
us to model a home environment so these
642
00:35:29,250 --> 00:35:30,270
cats can go home.
643
00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:34,600
Do we have a cat here who has been here
for the entire three months?
644
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,660
Sammy has been here for a while, too.
That, to me, is completely mysterious.
645
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,780
Yeah. He's your doorman. Why is Sammy
here?
646
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:47,960
Oh, he can be a little hissy. Now, let
me just actually test him out. What
647
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:48,960
happens when I pet you?
648
00:35:49,620 --> 00:35:50,620
Aha!
649
00:35:51,380 --> 00:35:53,100
That's what you're used to seeing,
right?
650
00:35:53,820 --> 00:35:58,840
That's why he's here. If you don't mind,
I would love to play a little bit.
651
00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,928
Dave, look at this.
652
00:35:59,930 --> 00:36:03,290
Sammy's just like, what is that? Look at
that boy.
653
00:36:03,570 --> 00:36:04,570
Yeah, son.
654
00:36:05,010 --> 00:36:06,810
Now let me just actually test him out.
655
00:36:07,310 --> 00:36:08,330
Yeah, you're cool.
656
00:36:08,670 --> 00:36:10,430
I bet you want to get pet now, don't
you?
657
00:36:11,130 --> 00:36:12,049
Don't you?
658
00:36:12,050 --> 00:36:14,990
Yeah. Oh, yeah, you're not going to do
anything with me right now, are you?
659
00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:20,170
So I feel like if you could engage Sammy
in a heavy -duty play session, then by
660
00:36:20,170 --> 00:36:24,110
the time he goes and meets other humans,
he's not as snap, crackle, poppy.
661
00:36:24,670 --> 00:36:28,730
really thought about playing with Sammy
before the customers come in. I hope
662
00:36:28,730 --> 00:36:32,070
that, you know, by draining his energy,
the customers can see the real Sammy.
663
00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:37,630
Well, it has been really fantastic being
here. Congratulations. Thank you so
664
00:36:37,630 --> 00:36:39,470
much for coming today. It's been my
pleasure.
665
00:36:39,790 --> 00:36:42,890
I came away from Conecco not just
feeling inspired, but also feeling a
666
00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:46,930
validated because it's no longer enough
for you to just house them. No more
667
00:36:46,930 --> 00:36:47,970
bars, no more cages.
668
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:51,730
This is the new business model. Bye,
guys. Have fun here.
669
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:53,690
They're like, yeah, that's what we do.
670
00:37:03,310 --> 00:37:06,870
I'm heading in for my last visit with
Josh and Grace to check in on Sadie and
671
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:07,870
Jess's progress.
672
00:37:07,970 --> 00:37:12,490
But the question remains, can these cats
live together at all? I have no idea,
673
00:37:12,490 --> 00:37:13,490
and I've got to go find out.
674
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:16,270
Well, hey. Hey, how's it going? Welcome
back.
675
00:37:16,530 --> 00:37:18,190
I gave you guys a...
676
00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:19,570
Ton of homework.
677
00:37:19,870 --> 00:37:22,790
And let's just get right to it. Little
cat high where we're building at her
678
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:26,210
level. She gets a little more
comfortable knowing that this space is
679
00:37:26,270 --> 00:37:27,270
Good progress.
680
00:37:27,370 --> 00:37:31,750
And now we're going to try feeding them
on either side of the door. See if
681
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:34,010
Sadie's more interested in us than in
attacking Jack.
682
00:37:34,530 --> 00:37:36,890
Okay, now it gets done and she's looking
at the door.
683
00:37:37,290 --> 00:37:38,970
Uh -oh. Look at that tail.
684
00:37:41,130 --> 00:37:42,130
And then there's that.
685
00:37:43,330 --> 00:37:44,229
All right.
686
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:45,990
Base camp expansion seems to have
worked.
687
00:37:46,380 --> 00:37:51,220
That said, I'm not seeing what I want
out of Sadie. Yeah. At all. And after
688
00:37:51,220 --> 00:37:53,280
this work, that's really troubling.
689
00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:58,100
Knowing that these two cats may never be
able to share an open space. Grace, do
690
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:00,180
you basically take Jess and move out?
691
00:38:01,260 --> 00:38:03,620
This is extremely difficult.
692
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:10,740
We've come so far with Jess, and I feel
like she's such a happier, braver cat
693
00:38:10,740 --> 00:38:12,240
than when we started this process.
694
00:38:12,460 --> 00:38:14,900
So I want to keep trying with her.
695
00:38:15,140 --> 00:38:17,390
Okay. So that takes us to a new place.
696
00:38:17,810 --> 00:38:20,970
If there was one other thing that
concerned me besides the fight, the last
697
00:38:20,970 --> 00:38:25,490
I was here was that I had to step in.
You, Josh, I felt like you froze.
698
00:38:25,770 --> 00:38:28,370
That fight was a wake -up call for us.
We talked about everything that went
699
00:38:28,370 --> 00:38:31,650
wrong, how we can avoid it next time.
We're feeling confident that we have the
700
00:38:31,650 --> 00:38:35,490
tools we need to break it up on our own.
So the last thing left for me to do
701
00:38:35,490 --> 00:38:40,770
with you guys is to put you in a
situation with the cats where we can
702
00:38:40,770 --> 00:38:42,850
if you can handle...
703
00:38:43,210 --> 00:38:45,430
Whatever comes your way. I really want
to see where they're at.
704
00:38:45,650 --> 00:38:48,190
Okay, so where are the cats right now?
705
00:38:48,430 --> 00:38:51,370
Sadie is in my room right now, and Jess
is out here in my room.
706
00:38:51,590 --> 00:38:55,170
Oh, good. Jess is out here. I like that.
I couldn't be happier. We have a
707
00:38:55,170 --> 00:38:58,570
different cat than who I started with.
She used to hide when she was low down
708
00:38:58,570 --> 00:39:03,010
the ground, but now she's up in that cat
tree 100 % mojofied.
709
00:39:03,230 --> 00:39:04,230
Let's make this happen.
710
00:39:04,250 --> 00:39:05,250
Okay. Come on.
711
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,400
What I need to see in order to walk away
from here today is that these two cats
712
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,100
can coexist in this house with no
bloodshed and that Josh and Grace know
713
00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:14,100
own the situation.
714
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,720
All right, let's go and start leading
Sadie in.
715
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,400
So here's the game plan. Josh is going
to lead Sadie into the room.
716
00:39:20,620 --> 00:39:25,120
It's about Josh's ability to take
control of Sadie. It's about Grace's
717
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:30,100
not to hover over Jess when bad things
are happening. These cats are going to
718
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:32,840
in the same room with nothing standing
in between the middle of them.
719
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,700
The last thing I want to happen is a
repeat of last time.
720
00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:37,500
There you go.
721
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,800
Last time, I froze up. This time, I plan
to redeem myself.
722
00:39:42,420 --> 00:39:43,359
I got a treat.
723
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,360
You want it?
724
00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:46,000
It's going to be right there.
725
00:39:46,220 --> 00:39:47,220
Good girl.
726
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,300
All right. What about this, the toy?
727
00:39:51,460 --> 00:39:52,460
Josh, get in front of her.
728
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,960
Yep. Uh -oh.
729
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,640
Sadie? Hey, uh -oh.
730
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,860
Hey, hey, Sadie?
731
00:40:04,879 --> 00:40:06,120
What about this, the toy?
732
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,320
Josh, get in front of her.
733
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:09,720
Yep.
734
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,440
Sadie? Hey, uh -oh.
735
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,420
Hey, hey, Sadie.
736
00:40:15,220 --> 00:40:16,220
All right.
737
00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:17,920
Josh, move her that way.
738
00:40:18,220 --> 00:40:19,220
Go, go, go, go, go.
739
00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:20,460
Why don't we try a treat?
740
00:40:22,260 --> 00:40:23,260
Yeah. There you go.
741
00:40:24,060 --> 00:40:26,600
Josh, look at you go, man. All right.
742
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,660
Josh handles the business. He was the
guy who, when there's any conflict, he's
743
00:40:31,660 --> 00:40:33,540
out of here. Now he is guiding.
744
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,540
Sadie, he's got full control over the
situation. I'm proud of him. How are we
745
00:40:37,540 --> 00:40:41,360
doing here? We're doing pretty good. She
doesn't feel as, like, paralyzed as she
746
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,360
has in the past.
747
00:40:42,380 --> 00:40:43,380
Come on, Sadie.
748
00:40:43,420 --> 00:40:44,460
Yeah, good girl.
749
00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:48,400
At this moment, all the homework we did,
all the training we did, it's finally
750
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,198
paying off.
751
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,760
You guys did very nicely.
752
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,700
Josh, today it felt like you had
control.
753
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,180
I'm not scared of it anymore.
754
00:40:56,420 --> 00:40:57,600
It feels good to be in control.
755
00:40:58,100 --> 00:40:59,500
Look, whatever happens...
756
00:40:59,850 --> 00:41:04,490
Jess has come a long way. She's not a
cat who has to be confined to a room
757
00:41:04,490 --> 00:41:06,410
because she's too scared. She's taken
the space.
758
00:41:06,670 --> 00:41:10,870
So I am proud of you, Jess Bell. And I'm
proud of you, too, as well. And I feel
759
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:13,830
good leaving you guys. And I think
that's exactly what I'm going to do. All
760
00:41:13,830 --> 00:41:18,070
right? All right. Jackson has absolutely
had a major impact on our life. The
761
00:41:18,070 --> 00:41:21,590
amount of progress that we've made, the
amount of confidence and hope that we
762
00:41:21,590 --> 00:41:24,950
now have for the situation, it's night
and day compared to where we started.
763
00:41:25,390 --> 00:41:30,470
I think what we've seen is so tremendous
that I don't feel guilty living here
764
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:33,030
anymore. All right, guys. Bye. Take
care. Thank you so much.
765
00:41:33,330 --> 00:41:37,550
Bye -bye. I feel really good that I've
made a difference in Jess Bell's life.
766
00:41:37,730 --> 00:41:39,930
Jess Bell is not that scared little cat
anymore.
767
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:43,890
Sadie's not going to attack Jess
indiscriminately. And the guardians are
768
00:41:43,890 --> 00:41:46,290
committed to this process. They keep
following my direction.
769
00:41:46,570 --> 00:41:51,370
Things are going to be okay here. I will
put money on a positive outcome in this
770
00:41:51,370 --> 00:41:52,370
house.
771
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,700
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