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He's like a bad ex -boyfriend that I
can't get rid of.
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Pretty much at this point, I just call
him bastard.
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Our cats cannot exist in the same room.
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I thought they were going to kill each
other.
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A little bit has to get a new home.
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I'm Jackson Galaxy.
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I am Cat.
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The animal behavior that guardians call
when they're dealing with a difficult
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cat.
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Wow, he really got you.
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I'm out to prove that there is no such
thing as a bad cat. Just a cat that
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my help. You did it.
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My name is Samantha. I live in New York.
I live with my cat, Spike.
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I got Spike as a kitten from an ad I saw
online, and I adopted Spike when he was
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four weeks old.
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I started to notice some issues with
Spike early on, and I thought he would
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out of it.
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But as he got older, he got meaner, and
he started attacking me and biting me
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and just got worse and worse over time.
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He's like a bad ex -boyfriend that I
can't get rid of.
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Help!
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Hey!
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If Spike can't be helped, my friends and
family want him gone.
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Why do you have Blow gone?
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Because I don't trust this little...
Spike is a horrible pet.
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I'm going to try to help you, Samantha,
but I don't know. Hey! I don't know
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what's the matter. He's like possessed.
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Get in the carrier!
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Get in there!
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Get in!
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Forget it.
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I have not given up on him because no
matter what, I do love him and he's my
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for almost seven years.
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He's been with me through everything and
I don't have the heart to give him
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away.
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Hey. I need Jackson's help now because
I'm at the point where I can't take it
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anymore and I'm scared he's really going
to hurt somebody.
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All right, I'm in New York, and I'm here
to meet up with Samantha and her cat,
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Spike.
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And, look, I know that Spike is an
aggressive cat. In fact, Samantha is
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absolutely scared of him. My job, of
course, is to get to the bottom of this.
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know there's no such thing as a mean
cat, right?
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Outdoor cat house. Never a good sign.
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Hey, Jackson, I'm Samantha. Come on in.
Hey, Samantha, good to meet you. Are you
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ready to meet the meanest cat ever?
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This is Spike.
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Well, hi, Spike.
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So, Spike.
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Let's talk about Spike.
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Spike is a monster.
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What? A monster?
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A monster. You live with a cat and you
call the cat a monster?
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Pretty much at this point, I just call
him Bastard. He doesn't even go by
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That's terrible.
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Okay, so when was the last time you
actually referred to him as Spike?
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Oh my God, years ago. Yeah, his name is
Bastard. I mean, that I find really very
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telling. I don't make a difference
between humans and cats. If I walked up
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you and called you idiot, then that
might affect our relationship.
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Just because a cat doesn't understand
English doesn't mean they don't
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understand. When was it that you started
to realize there was a problem? Once he
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was a year old, I was like, something's
not right with this cat.
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He was biting when he was a kitten, and
I thought he would just grow out of it.
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And as he got older, the biting wasn't
cute anymore, and it started to hurt.
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And he does this attack thing where he
wraps both paws around your arm or leg
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and just bites down really hard.
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Is he mean to everybody?
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He's mean to everybody.
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Equal opportunity, huh? He'll attack
anyone.
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Did you ever...
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Come up with anything to address Spike's
aggressive behavior?
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Nothing at all. I love him, but I'm
scared of him.
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Raising a cat is a lot like raising a
kid. And as a guardian, the sooner you
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on that page, the better. You can't just
see a behavior, yell no, and then call
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your cat a bastard because he's not
cooperating the way you wanted him to.
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You've got to give them the proper
motivation to do the right thing.
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There's a lot of back and forth
frustration going on between Samantha
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and a lot of lashing out as a result.
Help!
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Recently, I'd say the last year or two,
I've been keeping him outside. I got him
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a house outside.
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For a year or two?
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Yeah, it's just not safe for both of us
to be inside together.
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You guys live completely separate lives
at this point, huh? Right.
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You can't have a relationship with the
animal in your life if they live in a
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different area.
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To me, that's eminently dangerous
because of the weather and cars. This is
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place for Spike to be living.
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When was the last time he was at the
vet? Well, I cannot get him in a carrier
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bring him to the vet. The one and only
time he's been seen by a vet is at six
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months old.
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Wow. Okay, so I got all the information
I'm going to get from you.
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Now I'm going to get some information
from Spike. My mind is all over the
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I'm looking at Samantha, who's telling
me that Spike is a monster, that he's
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unpredictable, that it's random attacks.
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And in the meantime, Spike is sitting
right behind my head, and I'm not
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all that scared. So it's time for me to
introduce myself to Spike and see what
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the real deal is.
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Want to give it a smell?
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Yeah, that's me.
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Yes, that's not so bad.
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How about this?
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Want to touch?
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Can I touch?
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When I try to pet him, he'll scream and
try to bite me.
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Hi, buddy.
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Hi. I feel like he's scared right now.
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Sorry, he doesn't look scared to me.
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Look, I present my glasses, no problem.
I go for a pet, no problem. Not only
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that, he leans into my pet. He's
enjoying himself.
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I'm not seeing the monster, the bastard.
I'm just not seeing it yet.
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She has her cat pegged.
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And it seems to me the people who peg
their cats the most are usually wrong.
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So I've got to start pushing his
challenge line a little bit.
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Now I'm going to come at him the way I
would imagine you would. Okay.
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Spike.
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So that's saying that he's a little
agitated.
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I mean, I'm watching him sort of eyeball
me.
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Hey, Spike.
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What happens if I crowd you?
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What if I, aha.
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There you go.
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That's what I usually get. It's okay. As
Spike starts getting physical with me,
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he's giving me normal warning signs.
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He doesn't just go in and start gnawing
on my hand. He bats me.
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with his claws retracted. What he's
saying is, watch it, buddy.
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Watch it. You're getting a little close
here. Very interesting.
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I'm telling you, you're getting too
close.
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And then finally, ah, there goes he.
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Wham. Then he hits me. Hey, buddy.
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So now the tail is going.
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Right? Now he's suspicious. Now the
paw's coming up.
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Now I'm going to get hit.
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Wow. Once he gets activated, he's up.
Yeah.
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But that, to me, is a predictable
response.
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But also, he gets crazy when I go down
the stairs. He won't let me pass.
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And he'll just come out of nowhere and
attack me. Okay, but when he does that,
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it could very well be play aggression.
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So that's the good news. It doesn't seem
to me to be that random attack.
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Ouch. It seems to be something that
people misinterpret all the time. They
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it an attack when it's actually a
hunting move. Ouch.
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Let's play.
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Whoa, good one.
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By two jacks and zero.
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He's a bastard.
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Stop it.
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Don't do that anymore.
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I need you to be his advocate.
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Right. Because I do believe that he will
respond to that energy.
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Since he was a year old, she's been
calling him bastard.
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And since that point, her family, her
friends, everybody knows this cat by one
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thing, and it's not Spike.
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We've got to get him examined by a vet.
So we know, is he dealing with a
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physical problem or not? So that's our
next step.
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Okay. I feel like we've got to get a vet
over to make a house call.
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Cats actually act out because they're in
discomfort.
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It could be anything from an infection
to a bad tooth. We need to get a full
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exam done, and I've got a vet coming
over here today.
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All right, let's take a peek. I know,
you're not going to like this big guy.
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All right, all right, we'll save that
for after.
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All right, all right, all right.
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All right, all right, we'll save that
for after.
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All right, all right, all right.
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Dr. Corn is handling him beautifully.
His staff is restraining him well, but
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I've got Samantha standing next to me.
She is starting to get really upset.
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Hey, it's not easy to watch.
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Spike, it's okay.
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I know.
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At least we were able to get an
examination. I feel confident. We should
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the Bobo effect shortly, and I'll get
back to you as soon as we do, and we'll
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from there.
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We have a complete workup on him on the
way.
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Once that is in, then we can make the
distinction.
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Is this physical? Is it behavioral?
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Is it a little bit of both?
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So, there are things about Spike that
are not adding up. The second I walked
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in the house, you said,
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You ready to meet the worst cat you've
ever met? And then I meet him, and it
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a different vibe.
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There's a lot of what he does that could
be play aggression.
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So here's what I want you to do.
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I'm going to give you this camera, and I
want you to video everything, okay?
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Anything that you can in terms of your
interactions with him, I want you to
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okay? Record everything. I don't think
he's the cat you think he is. Really?
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I could be wrong.
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And you could prove me wrong.
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I want to see what your relationship
looks like. Do you think I should try to
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pet him or stay away from petting? Did
you watch the way I was petting him?
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Yeah. Okay.
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Stick around here.
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Right? Just like I did. And let him tell
you what he likes. He told me right
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away, right? I did a little bit of this
and he leaned into me.
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That's him saying, I like that. And then
be very aware when you start seeing his
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tail go.
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That's his sign of saying, I'm getting
stimulated.
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The last straw of your relationship was
the point where you transitioned Spike
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into being pretty much an outdoor cat.
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Now you guys are never together, ever.
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Ever. That we got to change up. I want
you to be able to live in the house with
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him at the same time. Now, the other
thing I want to leave you is the toy,
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because I really think that this is the
key to your relationship.
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Okay? Okay. I want you to get into the
habit of playing with him every day.
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is all about Samantha getting a better
grip on Spike and at the same time him
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loosening his grip on her by playing
with an actual toy and not her leg. What
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want you to do for your homework, this
is the most important thing that you're
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going to do.
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I want you to erase Bastard. I don't
want you to call him that anymore. And I
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want you to tell everybody else it's
dead.
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No more.
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Spike. His name is Spike. I want you
guys to have a relationship again.
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You have kept him around here when most
people would not have.
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But I want to heal something here, okay?
Yes.
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And I know we've had a heck of a day. I
think Spike's a good boy. And I'm
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looking forward to working with you. I
think we're going to get somewhere.
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you so much.
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You're welcome.
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I always wanted to keep my bases covered
with Spike. I had a vet come over here
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to make sure that he was cleared. I
don't know for sure, but I've got to
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my gut on this one and know that...
Spike has a lot of good in him, and that
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Samantha just needs to give him the
chance.
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I'm Kim.
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And I'm Joel. And we are losing our
minds in this house because our cats
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exist in the same room.
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We have two cats, Laura Cadbury and one
who has a few different names. A little
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bit, little bit, QB.
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Tubestake. I prefer Tubestake.
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Tubestake, which Joel came up with when
he was full of hate, which he still is
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full of some hate. Little Bit is the one
filled with hate.
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Not nice.
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So there's a few different types of
Little Bit aggression.
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The ultimate aggression is with Lord
Cadbury.
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When we first got Little Bit, the cats
actually broke through a screen door to
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get at each other.
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You couldn't tell which cat was which.
It was dark. I was shrieking, and there
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was blood everywhere.
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We need some blood, more blood.
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We have to really make sure that Little
Bit and Lord Cadbury are not in the same
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room.
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That resulted in some panic on my end. I
worry about them. I won't go out to
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dinner straight from work. I have to go
home and make sure that they're okay.
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There's never a time that everybody's
content because there's always somebody
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who's separated from somebody else.
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Joel's in one room with Little Bit, and
I'm in the other room with Lord Cadbury.
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But then Joel and I are not together.
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I mean, it's definitely been a stressor
on our relationship.
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All right, stop it, stop it, stop it.
Did she bite you hard? Yeah.
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If I had to give Little Bit away, I
would get euthanized because, you know,
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she's a little crazy.
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We are hoping that Jackson can help us.
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to open our doors and have chats that
are not trying to tell each other and
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Hey, man. We are so glad that you are
here.
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Oh, good.
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I always like a little enthusiasm.
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That's great.
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So why don't you guys fill me in?
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We have a five -year -old cat named Lord
Cadbury, and I thought he would maybe
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be happier if he had a companion.
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I had kind of an emotional moment with
this little tiny calico in the adoption
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window. Joel did not want another cat.
It was a little bit of a surprise. Oh,
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and then you surprised Joel with that
one. Look at the look on his face right
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now. Yeah, he was so mad.
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All right, so the little calico, what's
her name?
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She doesn't really have a name still.
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Joel kept saying that we're getting rid
of her. So we're kind of referring to
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her as little bit right now.
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Now, wait, hold on a second. How long
has it been? It's been seven months.
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months? Look, when you've got problems
the size of which that Joel and Kim have
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in this house, you're not going to solve
them unless you have 110 % commitment
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and not naming your cat shows about 3%.
Two days after we got her, I thought
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they were going to kill each other.
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We're keeping them completely separated
from each other.
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We have like a... whole fancy barricade
that we have to put up because Cadbury
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has got like people hands or something.
I don't know. He can open things.
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Well, there's more.
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A little bit will just totally redirect
the anger at us. And one morning,
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Cadbury was in the bathroom and she was
at the door and they're like this. She
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flew up vertically and lodged herself in
my hand.
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I went straight to urgent care and they
were like, you have cellulitis.
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Listen, cellulitis is no joke.
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If you get bit by a cat and you wind up
with cellulitis, that could wind you up
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in the hospital for a good long time.
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Tell me this stops at a certain point.
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How is it that she's still here? I just
worry that someone else isn't going to
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take care of her in the way that I want
to be able to take care of her.
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I've just been watching your facial
expressions this entire time. Clearly,
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guys have not been on the same page
about a little bit from go.
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I'm waiting for...
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Him to reach her breaking point.
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Obviously, this problem with these two
cats is torn at this relationship. So
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I've got to try to get a bird's eye view
of what's going on.
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Here's Lord Cadbury.
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There he is.
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When I meet cats who are fighting with
other cats, one of the first things I'm
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going to do is to see how well they
respond to play. Because if I can
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them with play, then that's a great tool
to start the integration.
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Good boy.
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Okay, good. Good news. Love it. Love it,
love it, love it, love it, love it.
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Phew. Okay. I am just...
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really about any little piece of good
news I can get, this is one of them,
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If I want to go and meet the other half
of the equation a little bit, how the
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hell do I do that?
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So this is part of what we call the
kitty swap, kitty ballet.
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So the kitty ballet is like we have to
really make sure that Little Bit and
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Cadbury are not in the same room.
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Cadbury's in the bathroom, door closed.
We're going to come out, okay?
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Okay, she's out. You want me to keep her
out? Yes, keep Little Bit out. Okay, we
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can open up then. Okay. Yoink.
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Yep.
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All right.
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This is classic Little Bit right here.
Well, hi, Little Bit.
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Hold on a second. I want to see if I
can, just like I did with Cadbury.
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There it goes.
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Oh, Little Bit has no tail. Yeah.
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When I got her home, I noticed that her
tail was paralyzed, and the vet said
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it's definitely trauma -related, so it
needs to be amputated.
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Good girl. It's like you never had a
tail to begin with.
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It's too bad that Little Bit had to have
her tail removed.
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Good girl.
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But from my experience, I highly doubt
that that could be the reason for any of
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her aggression issues.
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Now, what I'm going to do, take a little
bit of this.
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A little bit of Uber Food Motivated.
That means we use it to our advantage.
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Everything that defines these two cats,
they have to be cool for us. In this
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case, a little bit of attachment to food
may not go a long way.
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So now, I've met a little bit, right?
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I've met Lord Cadbury. Now I know that
you may be dreading this part, but this
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is what we've got to do. It's time to
construct the Berlin Wall, I mean the
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barrier, and see what happens.
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Because these cats live in total
seclusion from one another, I have no
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knowing if this is even a workable
situation.
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I have to see exactly where the
challenge line lies with these two cats.
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Okay, so what we're going to do is build
the biggest wall you got, and then
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we're going to start stripping it down
until we get to a point where the cats
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say no more. Okay? But then the idea is,
how little of a wall do we need?
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Jill, you want to grab those weights
over there? You know when it starts with
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when you grab the weights.
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It's all downhill from there.
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This is every time you leave the house.
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Yeah.
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So this barricade started off pretty
small, and it's gotten bigger based on
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Tadroy's ability to break through it.
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So tension rods.
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I get them up really high so it can't
reach them.
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Air purifier.
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This kind of fits in perfectly. This
usually goes here.
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I'm going to stuff this here because
it'll go underneath.
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And if I'm going out for a really long
time, I'll tend to put a blanket or
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something. Okay, stuffing in here.
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This usually goes here.
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Okay,
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we are built.
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The next step is to release the cats,
trying to distract them using play and
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food while gradually taking that barrier
down to see at what point the
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distractions stop working.
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And right to the door.
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Okay, so she's right at the door right
now. Okay, now hold on. Right now, she
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focused 100 % on her toy. Okay, let's
start breaking it down.
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Okay, all right.
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The next step would be the screen door,
but that's like a big step. Take the big
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step. All right, I'm moving the door.
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I'm feeling anxious because the barrier
has become kind of my security blanket.
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Okay, he's going straight for the door
now.
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Come here, baby. I can see him right at
the door. He's about to... Oh! There it
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goes. A little bit goes charging the
door. She hits it with a big thunk.
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Oh! And now it's time we got to back up
again because I'm going to lose both the
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cats and the humans right now. Over
here.
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Over here. Come on.
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Get him involved in the toy. Okay, come
here, mom.
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Come here.
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Okay, I am consistently able to pull her
away from the door with treats.
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All right, we're doing okay over there?
Oh, he just went in the tunnel.
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All right, I want to take one more step
here, okay?
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The good news is we were able to lead a
little bit away from that door, even
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though she just plowed into it.
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So far, so good.
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Now it's time to really push that
challenge line. I want these two cats to
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each other.
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Here's what I want. I want visual
access.
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Kim, while he's in that tunnel, reach
over and sneak the door open some more.
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A little bit, a little bit. It's going
to take treats. Okay. There you go. Ah,
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nice going.
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Walk that way, man.
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Oh, he's coming.
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I know. Walk that way.
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There you go.
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There
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you
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go.
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I have been literally tearing down the
walls between Lord Cadbury and Little
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to see if, with enough distractions,
these two could live together in peace.
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So far, things are not going too well.
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Ooh!
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What'd you get?
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I got a good one. She bit you? She bit
you?
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Yeah.
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What I just witnessed was classic
redirected aggression.
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Little Bit just took a chunk out of Joel
because he couldn't get at Lord
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Cadbury.
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Okay, that's fine.
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Don't worry about it.
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Aha!
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Now we close the pocket door.
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Yes, Little Bit did attack Joel, but I'm
taking away some positives from this
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exercise.
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Lord Cadbury is easily distracted and
Little Bit is highly food motivated.
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I've seen two cats that could possibly
live together.
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So, number one, we're going to make this
actually a functional piece.
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I want both cats to get used to seeing
each other safely without the threat of
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the door coming open.
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No more air purifier, books, all that
stuff. Gone. Because that keeps you guys
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completely barricaded from each other
and is crazy.
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So let's now talk about the process
itself.
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Now, what I want you to do is continue
the exercises we did today. And we're
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back to closed door right now.
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Closed door, how long can we do this?
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When it comes down to meal time, I want
you to start far enough away.
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I mean, you can even do what I usually
do is I put a marker on the floor and
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then move that up every day. Lead the
cats away from the door, get them
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interested in nothing but the toys and
the treats. Then we're going to end it
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with a meal.
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I'd also like to see more in the way of
cat trees, things like that. I want to
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see some cat trees in the house. That
way, these cats, when they're out, can
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start swapping scent in a constructive
way instead of going for the kill every
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time they get glimpses of each other.
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Finally. I need 150 % dedication.
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And that means giving her a name.
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Okay. After seven months, I need you to
go there.
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At the end of this, if they can't be in
the same space without being miserable,
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then it's time to think about what's
best for them.
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Sometimes it's kind of heartbreaking to
have to deliver the message that folks,
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this may not work. There's no guaranteed
outcome.
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But right now, between these two cats,
all I know is they hate each other. And
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at the end of all this, we may need to
look for another home for a little bit.
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So I'm here for my second visit with
Samantha and her cat, Spike.
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Now, the first time I was here, I met a
cat.
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Completely different from the cat I
thought I was going to meet. I want to
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that Samantha has taken Spike out of the
box, Mark Bastard, and put him in a new
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one. Jackson, this is my mom.
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Oh, hey, how are you? Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you as well. Good to see
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you. And there's our boy. There he is.
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Hello, buddy.
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So, how have things been?
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I still cannot pet Spike at all, or he
tries to bite me.
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I am so terrified of this cat.
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You know, this is truly a cat from hell.
Last time I was begging, stop calling
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him bastard. My mom gave him the name
originally. I didn't exactly give him
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name. Every time I came over, he came to
attack me. And I was like, you little
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bastard. I never in my wildest dreams
wanted that name to stick.
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Right. Spike is still bastard. Even if
you're not calling him that, you're
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treating him that way.
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What were the results from the vet exam?
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The vet said Spike is healthy and all
the blood work came back good. Right on.
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So that's really good to know.
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And he looks healthy.
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So that's great.
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Well, the good news is that Spike came
back with a totally clean bill of
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which is great. I mean, that clears the
way to work with behavior and get
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Samantha and the rest of her family on
the side of Spike. Let's take a look at
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the homework that I have for you.
458
00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:54,550
Here is how not to play with your cat
101.
459
00:24:57,740 --> 00:25:01,240
You can't just dangle a stick and call
that play.
460
00:25:01,540 --> 00:25:02,540
Can I try to pet you?
461
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,340
I just wanted to say hello to you.
462
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,640
Come on, out!
463
00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:08,340
Mom.
464
00:25:09,860 --> 00:25:10,860
Hey!
465
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,140
There's a vicious cycle that I'm seeing
where, first of all, there's a lot of
466
00:25:15,140 --> 00:25:16,140
emphasis on petting.
467
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,360
And secondly, you guys don't really take
the hint.
468
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,520
If I can pet Spike, he's a nice cat.
469
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,700
If I can't pet Spike, he's a demon.
470
00:25:24,170 --> 00:25:27,550
I can't pet Spike. He's a demon. The
whole family is that way. There's too
471
00:25:27,550 --> 00:25:28,930
emphasis on petting.
472
00:25:29,150 --> 00:25:33,250
I just woke up, and so there's some snow
on the ground, and I'm going to go let
473
00:25:33,250 --> 00:25:34,390
Spike inside now.
474
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:38,950
I feel bad he has to stay outside in the
snow, but I can't have him inside
475
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:39,950
attacking me.
476
00:25:40,050 --> 00:25:41,930
Come on, you know exactly what I'm going
to say, right?
477
00:25:42,170 --> 00:25:43,169
No. No?
478
00:25:43,170 --> 00:25:45,130
You absolutely didn't listen to me.
479
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:47,870
What was the thing I wanted you to do?
480
00:25:59,210 --> 00:26:00,490
What was the thing I wanted you to do?
481
00:26:00,950 --> 00:26:01,950
Call him Spike.
482
00:26:01,970 --> 00:26:02,970
No.
483
00:26:03,550 --> 00:26:07,030
There's something that's not adding up
here in her head.
484
00:26:07,690 --> 00:26:12,730
Yes, I'm looking at pictures of your cat
outside when I told you not to do it. I
485
00:26:12,730 --> 00:26:14,390
told you I didn't want him to go outside
anymore.
486
00:26:14,910 --> 00:26:16,230
I want him to be an indoor cat.
487
00:26:17,270 --> 00:26:18,269
You don't remember?
488
00:26:18,270 --> 00:26:21,410
I do remember. You absolutely didn't
listen to me.
489
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,140
There's no way that we can get a hold of
who he is and how to fix what's going
490
00:26:27,140 --> 00:26:31,040
on with him if he's living half a life
of an outdoor cat, half a life of an
491
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,040
indoor cat.
492
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:33,920
You guys, come on, follow me.
493
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,980
Why is this still here?
494
00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:38,680
That's Spike's house. No, it's not
Spike's house.
495
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,420
No, this is not Spike's house anymore.
496
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,760
This is not Spike's house. That is
Spike's house.
497
00:26:45,060 --> 00:26:47,180
This is trash, man.
498
00:26:47,740 --> 00:26:48,840
Are you hearing me?
499
00:26:49,260 --> 00:26:50,820
I hear you. I need you to hear me.
500
00:26:51,370 --> 00:26:57,050
If he doesn't live here, he might as
well be astray. Let's go back and it's
501
00:26:57,050 --> 00:26:57,929
cold.
502
00:26:57,930 --> 00:27:02,410
Your best friend deserves to sleep in
the house, in the warmth with you.
503
00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:04,930
Let me start giving you guys some
homework, okay?
504
00:27:05,570 --> 00:27:08,730
Number one, as I've demonstrated, he's
inside.
505
00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:13,430
Now, in the meantime, though, I want you
to get into a real strict habit with
506
00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:17,730
him, all right? So in the morning and
once at night before you go to bed,
507
00:27:17,730 --> 00:27:18,950
going to have these play sessions.
508
00:27:19,939 --> 00:27:22,080
Demonstrating, right? You're using the
whole house.
509
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,740
Then, once he's played, that's when you
feed him a meal. Because you're trying
510
00:27:25,740 --> 00:27:29,800
to get his body into a rhythm that will
keep him asleep at night. Right. I do
511
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,120
need everyone to be able to just sit
there and ignore him. Nobody can pet him
512
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:37,800
all. I don't want anybody to pet him.
Because I think by relieving everybody
513
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:43,140
the expectation that we give him a
chance to be normal. Let him do what he
514
00:27:43,140 --> 00:27:47,460
to do. And when everyone else is gone,
if you want to experiment, that's fine.
515
00:27:47,870 --> 00:27:50,710
I'm happy you guys are going to be
happy, okay? Okay, thank you very much.
516
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:54,430
course, my pleasure. The cat is the
victim in this case, and it's really
517
00:27:54,430 --> 00:28:01,070
important that they allow him to show
how he can be a part of the family. So
518
00:28:01,070 --> 00:28:04,090
they can commit to the seriousness of
the problem here, I think we can get
519
00:28:04,090 --> 00:28:05,090
somewhere.
520
00:28:05,310 --> 00:28:07,870
Then again, I thought that the last time
I was here.
521
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,980
I'm in Brooklyn for my second visit with
Kim and Joel, their cat, Lord Cadbury,
522
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:27,520
and the other cat who has no name yet.
Last time I was here, it was quite the
523
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,260
mess. Little Bit was trying to attack
Lord Cadbury and instead redirected that
524
00:28:32,260 --> 00:28:33,260
aggression onto Joel.
525
00:28:33,580 --> 00:28:36,840
Hopefully these guys have taken down the
barriers and they've been working
526
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,440
really hard at getting these two cats
comfortable enough to coexist with one
527
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,440
another.
528
00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:43,279
Okay. Come on in.
529
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,800
Welcome. Thank you very much. Oh, wait a
minute. What do we have here?
530
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,660
We have a very, very nice cat tree, man.
And wait for it, wait for it.
531
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,880
I walk into this house, and boom.
532
00:28:56,180 --> 00:28:58,180
No barrier of stuff.
533
00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:02,360
Obviously, we still have to have Lord
Cadbury locked away in another room for
534
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,900
now, because we can't have these two
cats running around freely with each
535
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,920
not just yet.
536
00:29:07,860 --> 00:29:09,820
But hey, it's definitely the right
direction.
537
00:29:10,180 --> 00:29:11,360
We have a door.
538
00:29:11,820 --> 00:29:12,880
This is the best.
539
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,260
We have a latch now on this door so we
can actually lock this. Because Lord
540
00:29:17,260 --> 00:29:19,100
Cadbury's a master of breaking and
entering.
541
00:29:19,420 --> 00:29:21,920
Yeah, and then we have the option of the
screen.
542
00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:24,460
Oh, did you nail it.
543
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,080
Now that these guys have that shade,
they can reveal the cats little by
544
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,740
to each other until both cats are fully
comfortable.
545
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:38,440
The last time I was here, one of my main
things with you guys, let's give her a
546
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,440
name.
547
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,460
We've been thinking about it? We got
one. Lay it on me. What is it? Lady
548
00:29:42,460 --> 00:29:45,400
Paprika. Lady Paprika and Lord Cadbury.
549
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,460
Of course, I've got her homework.
550
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,860
All right, let's take a look here. A
little bit. He's here, eating.
551
00:29:52,460 --> 00:29:53,460
Come here.
552
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,280
Come here, baby.
553
00:29:58,180 --> 00:29:59,740
All right, redirected.
554
00:30:00,260 --> 00:30:01,820
Nice. Here we go.
555
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,820
Cadbury. That's a good boy. Come here.
I'm really impressed with what I'm
556
00:30:05,820 --> 00:30:06,820
here.
557
00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:12,220
We've got proper distraction with play
and treats, and we've got two cats who
558
00:30:12,220 --> 00:30:15,800
can eat on opposite sides of the door.
Now, this is really important because
559
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,220
today's exercises are going to build on
that foundation.
560
00:30:18,740 --> 00:30:22,820
Okay, so what we're going to do here,
we're going to go from play to eat.
561
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,880
Now, here's the part I need you to
breathe around.
562
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:29,960
There is going to be complete vision
contact between these two cats.
563
00:30:30,220 --> 00:30:32,240
They're going to be able to see each
other completely.
564
00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:35,100
Then your job becomes in a very...
565
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,740
present and relaxed way to keep them
busy on what they're doing.
566
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,900
It's about play and complete absorption
into play. Today, we're going to
567
00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:48,260
introduce absolute visual contact
between these two cats.
568
00:30:48,580 --> 00:30:51,040
Let's start. Joel, can you raise the
curtain, please?
569
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,460
Yes, sir. Here you go. Raise that
curtain.
570
00:30:54,260 --> 00:30:55,600
Right there is fine.
571
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,040
Go for it.
572
00:30:57,220 --> 00:30:58,740
In comes Lord Cadbury.
573
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:04,520
Let the games begin, baby. So right now
we're at the door. We've got Joel, Lady
574
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,480
Paprika on one side. We've got Kim and
Lord Cadbury on the other side. And the
575
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,860
goal of the game, much like it was last
time, is to get the cats playing, moving
576
00:31:13,860 --> 00:31:15,480
around on opposite sides of the door.
577
00:31:15,820 --> 00:31:17,520
Comfortably seeing one another through
that screen.
578
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,800
Without trying to kill each other. There
he comes.
579
00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:26,600
It's okay. If it fails, it fails in a
big way.
580
00:31:27,070 --> 00:31:29,270
Joel, try to keep Lady P away from that
door.
581
00:31:30,890 --> 00:31:31,890
Come here, come here.
582
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:32,510
Come
583
00:31:32,510 --> 00:31:42,170
here,
584
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:43,230
come here.
585
00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:48,570
As the exercise starts unfolding...
586
00:31:48,810 --> 00:31:50,390
Joel fails immediately.
587
00:31:50,790 --> 00:31:55,450
He cannot get Lady Paprika's attention
to save his life. And within 15 seconds,
588
00:31:55,550 --> 00:31:58,510
bang, she is throwing herself against
the door.
589
00:32:00,310 --> 00:32:01,570
But it's not the end here.
590
00:32:01,810 --> 00:32:05,250
Joel and Kim need to engage these cats
so they're not engaging with each other.
591
00:32:05,470 --> 00:32:06,389
Come here.
592
00:32:06,390 --> 00:32:07,390
Oh, yeah.
593
00:32:07,730 --> 00:32:08,730
Nice.
594
00:32:12,030 --> 00:32:13,030
There you go.
595
00:32:13,450 --> 00:32:18,330
There you go. As I'm watching this
exercise unfold, Joel has got Lady
596
00:32:18,330 --> 00:32:21,830
handled, and Kim's doing great with Lord
Cadbury. I'm pretty impressed with the
597
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:25,210
progress I'm seeing here. Okay, I think
we're about ready. Let's get dinner time
598
00:32:25,210 --> 00:32:28,070
going now. And go ahead, put your food
on the ground right now.
599
00:32:28,290 --> 00:32:30,430
Okay. Past our challenge line, folks.
600
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:35,090
Lady Paprika is incredibly food
motivated. The go fish platter that I've
601
00:32:35,090 --> 00:32:39,270
going to slow her down to the point
where she can finish her meal at the
602
00:32:39,270 --> 00:32:43,090
time that Lord Cadbury does, and that is
a huge benefit to us.
603
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,500
Because the longer that these two can
eat in front of each other without
604
00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:48,080
freaking out, the better it is for us.
605
00:32:49,020 --> 00:32:50,880
Oh, my God, they're close. Wow.
606
00:32:51,740 --> 00:32:53,460
Look at this, guys. This is amazing.
607
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,940
This is fantastic, guys.
608
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,440
Oh, and he's walking away.
609
00:33:00,740 --> 00:33:04,740
A couple of weeks ago, I couldn't
envision what's happening right now. So
610
00:33:04,740 --> 00:33:08,560
that point, I'm able to kind of calm
down a little bit. That would be a
611
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,620
day. All right. Nice going, guys.
612
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,640
I want that moment to resonate with Kim
and with Joel as well.
613
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,320
This is what it could look like for you
guys.
614
00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:23,940
All right. So every meal is going to
look like this. Okay. The most important
615
00:33:23,940 --> 00:33:27,580
thing that we got right now is
continuing the positive steps that we
616
00:33:27,580 --> 00:33:30,860
today. It's all about visual exposure
with the screen door being between you.
617
00:33:32,340 --> 00:33:37,360
We're still quite a ways away from
opening this door. Yeah. And letting
618
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,120
cats be in the same room. Yeah. And I
want to get there.
619
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,900
And as a matter of fact, I will do it
regardless the next time I'm here. Oh,
620
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:48,500
God. You better be ready, man, because
we have to make a call.
621
00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:52,600
Are they both going to live here or are
we going to go for the greater good? I
622
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,100
always want to reward commitment and
hard work.
623
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:57,260
Kim and Joel are doing the work.
624
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,180
They deserve the happiness of having
these two cats in their lives.
625
00:34:01,420 --> 00:34:02,680
Do I see it happening?
626
00:34:03,140 --> 00:34:04,300
I'm still 50 -50.
627
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,000
I'm here for my final visit with Joel
and Kim, and the questions are very
628
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,560
right now. Can Lady Paprika and Lord
Cadbury get along enough for Lady
629
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,540
to have a home here, or is she going to
be a foster cat destined for somebody
630
00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:25,498
else's home?
631
00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:30,100
Well, as always, I have brought your
video homework with me.
632
00:34:31,429 --> 00:34:33,790
We got her. We got her. We got her.
Yeah.
633
00:34:34,210 --> 00:34:35,449
Oh, my God.
634
00:34:35,770 --> 00:34:38,050
Welcome to the Crazy Cat Lady Club, son.
635
00:34:38,290 --> 00:34:39,850
Hey, I think it's fantastic.
636
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:43,810
I love what you did catification -wise
in the bedroom.
637
00:34:44,010 --> 00:34:48,610
You had that refined feline shelf.
You've got this nice choice of levels
638
00:34:48,610 --> 00:34:54,870
cat. Okay, so this is our first attempt
through the screen eating.
639
00:34:55,850 --> 00:34:59,070
She did a lunge at the door, but it
wasn't too bad.
640
00:34:59,390 --> 00:35:01,010
Cadbury, stay there. You're doing great.
641
00:35:01,330 --> 00:35:02,330
Good boy.
642
00:35:02,770 --> 00:35:03,770
She moved.
643
00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:04,910
Good girl.
644
00:35:05,130 --> 00:35:08,650
You know, looking at the video homework,
I'm seeing tools being developed by
645
00:35:08,650 --> 00:35:12,470
both Kim and Joel, and all of those
tools are going to come to bear today. I
646
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:16,070
loved that bit where there was a stare
down. You guys did not give up. You
647
00:35:16,070 --> 00:35:17,130
didn't step in the middle.
648
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,440
You guys are allowing it to go as far as
it's going to go. And if it weren't for
649
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,060
that, we wouldn't have had that
beautiful moment of stare down and then
650
00:35:26,060 --> 00:35:29,980
turning around and going away. It's
great news to hear that Lady Paprika is
651
00:35:29,980 --> 00:35:33,760
longer throwing herself against the door
to get to Lord Cadbury. Now she's doing
652
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,400
some hissing. That's normal
communication.
653
00:35:35,620 --> 00:35:39,720
And we're going to need to seek normal
communication today if we have any hope
654
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:41,660
of getting through the day without blood
being drawn.
655
00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:45,740
Okay, the time for talk is done. Now
it's the time for action.
656
00:35:45,980 --> 00:35:46,980
You guys ready?
657
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:48,220
Ready? We're down.
658
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,240
Yeah. I'm ready. Okay, let's go.
659
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,940
I got to know that these cats can see
that there's value in other things
660
00:35:55,940 --> 00:36:00,020
each other. That's it. So, guys, this is
the first time since the big fight that
661
00:36:00,020 --> 00:36:02,880
these two cats will be in the same room
at the same time.
662
00:36:03,420 --> 00:36:04,880
Good going. Good girl.
663
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,078
Come on, girl.
664
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,740
There you go. Come on, girl. Using your
crazy cat lady voice. I like it. It's
665
00:36:09,740 --> 00:36:10,740
easy.
666
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,360
Here you go, baby.
667
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,200
Okay. Oh, ****.
668
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,180
This is the first time since the big
fight that these two cats will be in the
669
00:36:37,180 --> 00:36:39,700
same room at the same time. Here you go,
baby.
670
00:36:40,780 --> 00:36:41,780
Okay.
671
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,700
What defines success in this case is
cats that will eat a meal and be led
672
00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:51,440
by a toy, treat, or whatever, and not go
after each other.
673
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,000
Oh.
674
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,280
Good boy.
675
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,700
Good girl.
676
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:10,240
The first time I was here, a little bit,
lunged at the door so hard that she
677
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:13,540
almost knocked herself out. The last
time I was here, she did it again.
678
00:37:13,780 --> 00:37:18,660
And today, she doesn't even come close.
She allows Cadbury to smell her and move
679
00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:21,620
on. It's a momentous occasion in this
cat's life.
680
00:37:21,860 --> 00:37:22,860
Look at this.
681
00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:30,420
And I am closing this door. Good girl.
And you are officially...
682
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:35,780
Finished. The moment when Jackson says
the exercise is done is really sweet
683
00:37:35,780 --> 00:37:40,540
because, you know, there's just been so
much turmoil involved with this cat.
684
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,300
I am so incredibly grateful to Jackson.
I did not imagine that in this short
685
00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:49,380
period of time we would get this far.
And seeing, you know, with just, you
686
00:37:49,380 --> 00:37:53,520
some help and some tweaks in this house,
what can happen is amazing to me.
687
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,840
Thank you, Jackson.
688
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:56,740
Bye, guys. This is one of those days.
689
00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:00,680
Everything went beautifully, and it
wasn't just about the cats being able to
690
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,680
in the same room.
691
00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:06,220
Joe and Kim have the tools now, and they
have the willingness to use those
692
00:38:06,220 --> 00:38:09,980
tools, and that's what matters. I know
that this home is going to be a happy
693
00:38:09,980 --> 00:38:10,980
one.
694
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,300
Final visit with Samantha and Spike.
This has been a house of surprises. I
695
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:31,740
the last time I was here, Samantha did
not do her homework and oh
696
00:38:31,740 --> 00:38:38,200
come on seriously
697
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:44,260
well hi hello how are you we got
something to talk about don't we oh
698
00:38:44,260 --> 00:38:51,000
come on in oh hey there hi how are you
how are you hey I'm Jackson I'm
699
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,520
Steve Steve good to meet you man good to
see you again hi
700
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:56,670
How's life?
701
00:38:57,130 --> 00:39:00,110
So? Samantha, time to come clean.
702
00:39:00,370 --> 00:39:04,390
Last time I was here, I tossed that
feral cat house in the trash.
703
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:06,590
And it's back again.
704
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:08,490
Why is that house out there?
705
00:39:12,490 --> 00:39:18,210
Well, I took the cat house out of the
garbage just in case if I got outside,
706
00:39:18,210 --> 00:39:20,330
he would have a place to stay.
707
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:21,368
Just in case?
708
00:39:21,370 --> 00:39:23,430
Just in case. But are you letting him
outside?
709
00:39:23,930 --> 00:39:26,350
He has been 100 % inside.
710
00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:28,189
Go, girl.
711
00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:29,190
That's fantastic.
712
00:39:29,330 --> 00:39:30,229
Okay, good.
713
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:31,390
I'm glad to hear that.
714
00:39:31,650 --> 00:39:35,350
So I would love to go over your video
homework and see what you guys have been
715
00:39:35,350 --> 00:39:36,350
up to.
716
00:39:37,790 --> 00:39:39,190
Whoa, that's a jump.
717
00:39:40,010 --> 00:39:41,170
Now you're playing.
718
00:39:41,590 --> 00:39:43,470
Did Peppa copy your head spike?
719
00:39:44,770 --> 00:39:45,770
Good boy.
720
00:39:46,110 --> 00:39:49,950
I love what you did there. Samantha
didn't just go to Peppa's bike and have
721
00:39:49,950 --> 00:39:51,290
make that little turn.
722
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,840
But she kept her hand there, allowed him
to smell it and say, OK, you're not a
723
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,300
threat. If she would have pulled her
hand away, it would have been a
724
00:39:59,300 --> 00:40:00,218
story altogether.
725
00:40:00,220 --> 00:40:03,920
Have you guys been involved in the home?
We've been playing with him a little
726
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,880
bit. I've never seen him as calm.
Normally he'd be in the attack position.
727
00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:13,720
He's thoroughly relaxed and he's totally
down and chill. The cat is much more
728
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:19,820
docile now and seems that it can be
integrated into polite society at this
729
00:40:21,130 --> 00:40:22,390
That's a plus.
730
00:40:22,730 --> 00:40:26,010
So in the past couple weeks since the
last time we were here and he's been
731
00:40:26,010 --> 00:40:30,250
indoors only, has he made a move toward
anybody else that's been aggressive?
732
00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:34,990
No. Great. He'll play and then he won't
attack.
733
00:40:35,230 --> 00:40:39,870
How do you feel like your relationship
has changed with him? He's definitely
734
00:40:39,870 --> 00:40:43,050
known as mean bastard anymore. He's
known as Spike.
735
00:40:43,570 --> 00:40:46,210
Good. And he's part of my family.
736
00:40:47,370 --> 00:40:48,730
Now that's music to my ears.
737
00:40:49,050 --> 00:40:52,850
I've loved walking away from places
where people can see animals in a
738
00:40:52,850 --> 00:40:57,990
light. I'm sure that this family had no
idea that Spike could respond to their
739
00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:59,830
energy. That's what happened here.
740
00:41:05,470 --> 00:41:10,590
The hell isn't over yet. Go to the My
Cat From Hell Facebook page for
741
00:41:10,590 --> 00:41:12,410
gifts and much more.
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