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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:04,860 He's like a bad ex -boyfriend that I can't get rid of. 2 00:00:05,980 --> 00:00:10,280 Pretty much at this point, I just call him bastard. 3 00:00:15,140 --> 00:00:17,600 Our cats cannot exist in the same room. 4 00:00:18,300 --> 00:00:19,700 I thought they were going to kill each other. 5 00:00:21,660 --> 00:00:24,520 A little bit has to get a new home. 6 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,000 I'm Jackson Galaxy. 7 00:00:28,260 --> 00:00:29,260 I am Cat. 8 00:00:29,460 --> 00:00:34,060 The animal behavior that guardians call when they're dealing with a difficult 9 00:00:34,060 --> 00:00:35,060 cat. 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,280 Wow, he really got you. 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,880 I'm out to prove that there is no such thing as a bad cat. Just a cat that 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,200 my help. You did it. 13 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,480 My name is Samantha. I live in New York. I live with my cat, Spike. 14 00:01:03,820 --> 00:01:10,580 I got Spike as a kitten from an ad I saw online, and I adopted Spike when he was 15 00:01:10,580 --> 00:01:11,559 four weeks old. 16 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,300 I started to notice some issues with Spike early on, and I thought he would 17 00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:17,139 out of it. 18 00:01:17,140 --> 00:01:22,140 But as he got older, he got meaner, and he started attacking me and biting me 19 00:01:22,140 --> 00:01:24,360 and just got worse and worse over time. 20 00:01:28,539 --> 00:01:32,040 He's like a bad ex -boyfriend that I can't get rid of. 21 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:33,960 Help! 22 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:35,520 Hey! 23 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,400 If Spike can't be helped, my friends and family want him gone. 24 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:41,920 Why do you have Blow gone? 25 00:01:42,660 --> 00:01:46,700 Because I don't trust this little... Spike is a horrible pet. 26 00:01:46,980 --> 00:01:50,420 I'm going to try to help you, Samantha, but I don't know. Hey! I don't know 27 00:01:50,420 --> 00:01:51,420 what's the matter. He's like possessed. 28 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:52,720 Get in the carrier! 29 00:01:52,740 --> 00:01:53,740 Get in there! 30 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,360 Get in! 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,040 Forget it. 32 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:02,080 I have not given up on him because no matter what, I do love him and he's my 33 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,660 for almost seven years. 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,820 He's been with me through everything and I don't have the heart to give him 35 00:02:07,820 --> 00:02:08,820 away. 36 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,820 Hey. I need Jackson's help now because I'm at the point where I can't take it 37 00:02:14,820 --> 00:02:17,140 anymore and I'm scared he's really going to hurt somebody. 38 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,520 All right, I'm in New York, and I'm here to meet up with Samantha and her cat, 39 00:02:27,660 --> 00:02:28,660 Spike. 40 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,120 And, look, I know that Spike is an aggressive cat. In fact, Samantha is 41 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,860 absolutely scared of him. My job, of course, is to get to the bottom of this. 42 00:02:36,860 --> 00:02:38,780 know there's no such thing as a mean cat, right? 43 00:02:40,420 --> 00:02:42,780 Outdoor cat house. Never a good sign. 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,420 Hey, Jackson, I'm Samantha. Come on in. Hey, Samantha, good to meet you. Are you 45 00:02:46,420 --> 00:02:48,340 ready to meet the meanest cat ever? 46 00:02:48,780 --> 00:02:49,780 This is Spike. 47 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:50,920 Well, hi, Spike. 48 00:02:53,260 --> 00:02:54,260 So, Spike. 49 00:02:54,540 --> 00:02:55,540 Let's talk about Spike. 50 00:02:55,780 --> 00:02:56,920 Spike is a monster. 51 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,700 What? A monster? 52 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,000 A monster. You live with a cat and you call the cat a monster? 53 00:03:01,260 --> 00:03:05,400 Pretty much at this point, I just call him Bastard. He doesn't even go by 54 00:03:05,780 --> 00:03:06,759 That's terrible. 55 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,740 Okay, so when was the last time you actually referred to him as Spike? 56 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:15,820 Oh my God, years ago. Yeah, his name is Bastard. I mean, that I find really very 57 00:03:15,820 --> 00:03:21,000 telling. I don't make a difference between humans and cats. If I walked up 58 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,860 you and called you idiot, then that might affect our relationship. 59 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,400 Just because a cat doesn't understand English doesn't mean they don't 60 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,860 understand. When was it that you started to realize there was a problem? Once he 61 00:03:30,860 --> 00:03:33,460 was a year old, I was like, something's not right with this cat. 62 00:03:33,780 --> 00:03:37,740 He was biting when he was a kitten, and I thought he would just grow out of it. 63 00:03:37,860 --> 00:03:42,340 And as he got older, the biting wasn't cute anymore, and it started to hurt. 64 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:47,400 And he does this attack thing where he wraps both paws around your arm or leg 65 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,260 and just bites down really hard. 66 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,000 Is he mean to everybody? 67 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,160 He's mean to everybody. 68 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,180 Equal opportunity, huh? He'll attack anyone. 69 00:03:54,860 --> 00:03:55,920 Did you ever... 70 00:03:56,380 --> 00:03:59,500 Come up with anything to address Spike's aggressive behavior? 71 00:03:59,820 --> 00:04:02,960 Nothing at all. I love him, but I'm scared of him. 72 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,440 Raising a cat is a lot like raising a kid. And as a guardian, the sooner you 73 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,080 on that page, the better. You can't just see a behavior, yell no, and then call 74 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,900 your cat a bastard because he's not cooperating the way you wanted him to. 75 00:04:15,020 --> 00:04:18,260 You've got to give them the proper motivation to do the right thing. 76 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:22,300 There's a lot of back and forth frustration going on between Samantha 77 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:24,760 and a lot of lashing out as a result. Help! 78 00:04:25,730 --> 00:04:29,570 Recently, I'd say the last year or two, I've been keeping him outside. I got him 79 00:04:29,570 --> 00:04:30,570 a house outside. 80 00:04:30,910 --> 00:04:31,209 For a year or two? 81 00:04:31,210 --> 00:04:35,270 Yeah, it's just not safe for both of us to be inside together. 82 00:04:35,750 --> 00:04:39,250 You guys live completely separate lives at this point, huh? Right. 83 00:04:39,470 --> 00:04:45,310 You can't have a relationship with the animal in your life if they live in a 84 00:04:45,310 --> 00:04:46,289 different area. 85 00:04:46,290 --> 00:04:51,610 To me, that's eminently dangerous because of the weather and cars. This is 86 00:04:51,610 --> 00:04:52,830 place for Spike to be living. 87 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,680 When was the last time he was at the vet? Well, I cannot get him in a carrier 88 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,360 bring him to the vet. The one and only time he's been seen by a vet is at six 89 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,199 months old. 90 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,020 Wow. Okay, so I got all the information I'm going to get from you. 91 00:05:07,470 --> 00:05:11,070 Now I'm going to get some information from Spike. My mind is all over the 92 00:05:11,210 --> 00:05:15,270 I'm looking at Samantha, who's telling me that Spike is a monster, that he's 93 00:05:15,270 --> 00:05:17,110 unpredictable, that it's random attacks. 94 00:05:17,410 --> 00:05:20,910 And in the meantime, Spike is sitting right behind my head, and I'm not 95 00:05:20,910 --> 00:05:25,390 all that scared. So it's time for me to introduce myself to Spike and see what 96 00:05:25,390 --> 00:05:26,309 the real deal is. 97 00:05:26,310 --> 00:05:27,310 Want to give it a smell? 98 00:05:29,110 --> 00:05:30,110 Yeah, that's me. 99 00:05:30,970 --> 00:05:32,130 Yes, that's not so bad. 100 00:05:32,670 --> 00:05:33,670 How about this? 101 00:05:35,730 --> 00:05:36,730 Want to touch? 102 00:05:38,190 --> 00:05:39,190 Can I touch? 103 00:05:42,890 --> 00:05:47,650 When I try to pet him, he'll scream and try to bite me. 104 00:05:48,050 --> 00:05:49,050 Hi, buddy. 105 00:05:49,410 --> 00:05:52,990 Hi. I feel like he's scared right now. 106 00:05:53,570 --> 00:05:55,370 Sorry, he doesn't look scared to me. 107 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,080 Look, I present my glasses, no problem. I go for a pet, no problem. Not only 108 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,600 that, he leans into my pet. He's enjoying himself. 109 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,280 I'm not seeing the monster, the bastard. I'm just not seeing it yet. 110 00:06:05,660 --> 00:06:07,740 She has her cat pegged. 111 00:06:07,980 --> 00:06:12,460 And it seems to me the people who peg their cats the most are usually wrong. 112 00:06:13,860 --> 00:06:16,340 So I've got to start pushing his challenge line a little bit. 113 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:22,280 Now I'm going to come at him the way I would imagine you would. Okay. 114 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,160 Spike. 115 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,440 So that's saying that he's a little agitated. 116 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,200 I mean, I'm watching him sort of eyeball me. 117 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,480 Hey, Spike. 118 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,080 What happens if I crowd you? 119 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:38,740 What if I, aha. 120 00:06:39,500 --> 00:06:40,500 There you go. 121 00:06:42,020 --> 00:06:46,160 That's what I usually get. It's okay. As Spike starts getting physical with me, 122 00:06:46,220 --> 00:06:48,840 he's giving me normal warning signs. 123 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,360 He doesn't just go in and start gnawing on my hand. He bats me. 124 00:06:53,790 --> 00:06:57,150 with his claws retracted. What he's saying is, watch it, buddy. 125 00:06:57,530 --> 00:07:00,650 Watch it. You're getting a little close here. Very interesting. 126 00:07:01,270 --> 00:07:03,270 I'm telling you, you're getting too close. 127 00:07:03,510 --> 00:07:06,430 And then finally, ah, there goes he. 128 00:07:08,330 --> 00:07:10,130 Wham. Then he hits me. Hey, buddy. 129 00:07:10,630 --> 00:07:12,330 So now the tail is going. 130 00:07:13,030 --> 00:07:16,450 Right? Now he's suspicious. Now the paw's coming up. 131 00:07:16,770 --> 00:07:17,890 Now I'm going to get hit. 132 00:07:18,130 --> 00:07:21,110 Wow. Once he gets activated, he's up. Yeah. 133 00:07:21,550 --> 00:07:23,530 But that, to me, is a predictable response. 134 00:07:23,950 --> 00:07:28,350 But also, he gets crazy when I go down the stairs. He won't let me pass. 135 00:07:29,510 --> 00:07:33,210 And he'll just come out of nowhere and attack me. Okay, but when he does that, 136 00:07:33,370 --> 00:07:36,030 it could very well be play aggression. 137 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:40,550 So that's the good news. It doesn't seem to me to be that random attack. 138 00:07:40,810 --> 00:07:45,270 Ouch. It seems to be something that people misinterpret all the time. They 139 00:07:45,270 --> 00:07:48,610 it an attack when it's actually a hunting move. Ouch. 140 00:07:49,190 --> 00:07:50,190 Let's play. 141 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,460 Whoa, good one. 142 00:07:54,900 --> 00:07:56,940 By two jacks and zero. 143 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,200 He's a bastard. 144 00:07:58,620 --> 00:07:59,620 Stop it. 145 00:07:59,860 --> 00:08:00,860 Don't do that anymore. 146 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,140 I need you to be his advocate. 147 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,120 Right. Because I do believe that he will respond to that energy. 148 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,320 Since he was a year old, she's been calling him bastard. 149 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,940 And since that point, her family, her friends, everybody knows this cat by one 150 00:08:14,940 --> 00:08:15,940 thing, and it's not Spike. 151 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,200 We've got to get him examined by a vet. So we know, is he dealing with a 152 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,600 physical problem or not? So that's our next step. 153 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,780 Okay. I feel like we've got to get a vet over to make a house call. 154 00:08:26,020 --> 00:08:29,340 Cats actually act out because they're in discomfort. 155 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,400 It could be anything from an infection to a bad tooth. We need to get a full 156 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,539 exam done, and I've got a vet coming over here today. 157 00:08:36,059 --> 00:08:38,740 All right, let's take a peek. I know, you're not going to like this big guy. 158 00:08:39,820 --> 00:08:41,820 All right, all right, we'll save that for after. 159 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:46,960 All right, all right, all right. 160 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,140 All right, all right, we'll save that for after. 161 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:01,420 All right, all right, all right. 162 00:09:01,660 --> 00:09:06,520 Dr. Corn is handling him beautifully. His staff is restraining him well, but 163 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,620 I've got Samantha standing next to me. She is starting to get really upset. 164 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,280 Hey, it's not easy to watch. 165 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,080 Spike, it's okay. 166 00:09:17,770 --> 00:09:18,770 I know. 167 00:09:18,890 --> 00:09:22,990 At least we were able to get an examination. I feel confident. We should 168 00:09:22,990 --> 00:09:26,050 the Bobo effect shortly, and I'll get back to you as soon as we do, and we'll 169 00:09:26,050 --> 00:09:26,589 from there. 170 00:09:26,590 --> 00:09:28,930 We have a complete workup on him on the way. 171 00:09:29,310 --> 00:09:32,450 Once that is in, then we can make the distinction. 172 00:09:32,670 --> 00:09:34,590 Is this physical? Is it behavioral? 173 00:09:34,830 --> 00:09:35,830 Is it a little bit of both? 174 00:09:36,270 --> 00:09:43,190 So, there are things about Spike that are not adding up. The second I walked 175 00:09:43,190 --> 00:09:44,690 in the house, you said, 176 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,640 You ready to meet the worst cat you've ever met? And then I meet him, and it 177 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:50,760 a different vibe. 178 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,860 There's a lot of what he does that could be play aggression. 179 00:09:54,140 --> 00:09:55,520 So here's what I want you to do. 180 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:02,640 I'm going to give you this camera, and I want you to video everything, okay? 181 00:10:03,020 --> 00:10:07,980 Anything that you can in terms of your interactions with him, I want you to 182 00:10:08,140 --> 00:10:12,500 okay? Record everything. I don't think he's the cat you think he is. Really? 183 00:10:12,740 --> 00:10:13,740 I could be wrong. 184 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,240 And you could prove me wrong. 185 00:10:15,500 --> 00:10:19,540 I want to see what your relationship looks like. Do you think I should try to 186 00:10:19,540 --> 00:10:23,700 pet him or stay away from petting? Did you watch the way I was petting him? 187 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:24,880 Yeah. Okay. 188 00:10:24,980 --> 00:10:25,980 Stick around here. 189 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,780 Right? Just like I did. And let him tell you what he likes. He told me right 190 00:10:30,780 --> 00:10:33,220 away, right? I did a little bit of this and he leaned into me. 191 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,160 That's him saying, I like that. And then be very aware when you start seeing his 192 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:38,989 tail go. 193 00:10:38,990 --> 00:10:41,270 That's his sign of saying, I'm getting stimulated. 194 00:10:41,750 --> 00:10:47,870 The last straw of your relationship was the point where you transitioned Spike 195 00:10:47,870 --> 00:10:49,990 into being pretty much an outdoor cat. 196 00:10:50,450 --> 00:10:53,330 Now you guys are never together, ever. 197 00:10:53,550 --> 00:10:59,690 Ever. That we got to change up. I want you to be able to live in the house with 198 00:10:59,690 --> 00:11:03,850 him at the same time. Now, the other thing I want to leave you is the toy, 199 00:11:03,950 --> 00:11:07,330 because I really think that this is the key to your relationship. 200 00:11:07,770 --> 00:11:11,950 Okay? Okay. I want you to get into the habit of playing with him every day. 201 00:11:11,950 --> 00:11:16,990 is all about Samantha getting a better grip on Spike and at the same time him 202 00:11:16,990 --> 00:11:21,310 loosening his grip on her by playing with an actual toy and not her leg. What 203 00:11:21,310 --> 00:11:24,970 want you to do for your homework, this is the most important thing that you're 204 00:11:24,970 --> 00:11:25,729 going to do. 205 00:11:25,730 --> 00:11:30,430 I want you to erase Bastard. I don't want you to call him that anymore. And I 206 00:11:30,430 --> 00:11:32,170 want you to tell everybody else it's dead. 207 00:11:32,490 --> 00:11:33,469 No more. 208 00:11:33,470 --> 00:11:36,970 Spike. His name is Spike. I want you guys to have a relationship again. 209 00:11:37,310 --> 00:11:41,050 You have kept him around here when most people would not have. 210 00:11:41,390 --> 00:11:44,790 But I want to heal something here, okay? Yes. 211 00:11:44,990 --> 00:11:49,050 And I know we've had a heck of a day. I think Spike's a good boy. And I'm 212 00:11:49,050 --> 00:11:51,370 looking forward to working with you. I think we're going to get somewhere. 213 00:11:51,370 --> 00:11:52,269 you so much. 214 00:11:52,270 --> 00:11:53,270 You're welcome. 215 00:11:53,370 --> 00:11:56,970 I always wanted to keep my bases covered with Spike. I had a vet come over here 216 00:11:56,970 --> 00:12:01,290 to make sure that he was cleared. I don't know for sure, but I've got to 217 00:12:01,290 --> 00:12:06,000 my gut on this one and know that... Spike has a lot of good in him, and that 218 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,400 Samantha just needs to give him the chance. 219 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:16,999 I'm Kim. 220 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,340 And I'm Joel. And we are losing our minds in this house because our cats 221 00:12:21,340 --> 00:12:22,800 exist in the same room. 222 00:12:26,220 --> 00:12:31,360 We have two cats, Laura Cadbury and one who has a few different names. A little 223 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,060 bit, little bit, QB. 224 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:35,700 Tubestake. I prefer Tubestake. 225 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,200 Tubestake, which Joel came up with when he was full of hate, which he still is 226 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,300 full of some hate. Little Bit is the one filled with hate. 227 00:12:42,860 --> 00:12:43,860 Not nice. 228 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,780 So there's a few different types of Little Bit aggression. 229 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,080 The ultimate aggression is with Lord Cadbury. 230 00:12:55,220 --> 00:12:59,620 When we first got Little Bit, the cats actually broke through a screen door to 231 00:12:59,620 --> 00:13:00,620 get at each other. 232 00:13:00,700 --> 00:13:03,900 You couldn't tell which cat was which. It was dark. I was shrieking, and there 233 00:13:03,900 --> 00:13:04,900 was blood everywhere. 234 00:13:05,300 --> 00:13:08,540 We need some blood, more blood. 235 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:14,900 We have to really make sure that Little Bit and Lord Cadbury are not in the same 236 00:13:14,900 --> 00:13:15,900 room. 237 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:21,000 That resulted in some panic on my end. I worry about them. I won't go out to 238 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,920 dinner straight from work. I have to go home and make sure that they're okay. 239 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,880 There's never a time that everybody's content because there's always somebody 240 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,600 who's separated from somebody else. 241 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,280 Joel's in one room with Little Bit, and I'm in the other room with Lord Cadbury. 242 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:34,740 But then Joel and I are not together. 243 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,780 I mean, it's definitely been a stressor on our relationship. 244 00:13:39,860 --> 00:13:43,380 All right, stop it, stop it, stop it. Did she bite you hard? Yeah. 245 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,120 If I had to give Little Bit away, I would get euthanized because, you know, 246 00:13:48,180 --> 00:13:49,660 she's a little crazy. 247 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,440 We are hoping that Jackson can help us. 248 00:13:53,710 --> 00:13:57,770 to open our doors and have chats that are not trying to tell each other and 249 00:14:01,090 --> 00:14:03,970 Hey, man. We are so glad that you are here. 250 00:14:04,190 --> 00:14:05,189 Oh, good. 251 00:14:05,190 --> 00:14:07,130 I always like a little enthusiasm. 252 00:14:07,350 --> 00:14:07,969 That's great. 253 00:14:07,970 --> 00:14:09,450 So why don't you guys fill me in? 254 00:14:09,850 --> 00:14:14,050 We have a five -year -old cat named Lord Cadbury, and I thought he would maybe 255 00:14:14,050 --> 00:14:15,270 be happier if he had a companion. 256 00:14:15,890 --> 00:14:20,630 I had kind of an emotional moment with this little tiny calico in the adoption 257 00:14:20,630 --> 00:14:24,090 window. Joel did not want another cat. It was a little bit of a surprise. Oh, 258 00:14:24,110 --> 00:14:28,530 and then you surprised Joel with that one. Look at the look on his face right 259 00:14:28,530 --> 00:14:29,530 now. Yeah, he was so mad. 260 00:14:29,570 --> 00:14:31,610 All right, so the little calico, what's her name? 261 00:14:32,199 --> 00:14:33,960 She doesn't really have a name still. 262 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,800 Joel kept saying that we're getting rid of her. So we're kind of referring to 263 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:38,800 her as little bit right now. 264 00:14:39,060 --> 00:14:42,480 Now, wait, hold on a second. How long has it been? It's been seven months. 265 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,480 months? Look, when you've got problems the size of which that Joel and Kim have 266 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,820 in this house, you're not going to solve them unless you have 110 % commitment 267 00:14:49,820 --> 00:14:55,660 and not naming your cat shows about 3%. Two days after we got her, I thought 268 00:14:55,660 --> 00:14:56,660 they were going to kill each other. 269 00:14:57,740 --> 00:14:59,980 We're keeping them completely separated from each other. 270 00:15:00,260 --> 00:15:05,500 We have like a... whole fancy barricade that we have to put up because Cadbury 271 00:15:05,500 --> 00:15:08,680 has got like people hands or something. I don't know. He can open things. 272 00:15:10,980 --> 00:15:12,640 Well, there's more. 273 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,880 A little bit will just totally redirect the anger at us. And one morning, 274 00:15:16,940 --> 00:15:21,000 Cadbury was in the bathroom and she was at the door and they're like this. She 275 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,100 flew up vertically and lodged herself in my hand. 276 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,520 I went straight to urgent care and they were like, you have cellulitis. 277 00:15:27,870 --> 00:15:29,530 Listen, cellulitis is no joke. 278 00:15:29,730 --> 00:15:33,590 If you get bit by a cat and you wind up with cellulitis, that could wind you up 279 00:15:33,590 --> 00:15:35,070 in the hospital for a good long time. 280 00:15:35,370 --> 00:15:37,270 Tell me this stops at a certain point. 281 00:15:38,110 --> 00:15:42,150 How is it that she's still here? I just worry that someone else isn't going to 282 00:15:42,150 --> 00:15:45,570 take care of her in the way that I want to be able to take care of her. 283 00:15:46,030 --> 00:15:50,010 I've just been watching your facial expressions this entire time. Clearly, 284 00:15:50,010 --> 00:15:54,710 guys have not been on the same page about a little bit from go. 285 00:15:54,930 --> 00:15:55,970 I'm waiting for... 286 00:15:56,380 --> 00:15:58,180 Him to reach her breaking point. 287 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,620 Obviously, this problem with these two cats is torn at this relationship. So 288 00:16:03,620 --> 00:16:06,140 I've got to try to get a bird's eye view of what's going on. 289 00:16:06,420 --> 00:16:07,520 Here's Lord Cadbury. 290 00:16:07,820 --> 00:16:08,820 There he is. 291 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,140 When I meet cats who are fighting with other cats, one of the first things I'm 292 00:16:12,140 --> 00:16:15,580 going to do is to see how well they respond to play. Because if I can 293 00:16:15,580 --> 00:16:18,200 them with play, then that's a great tool to start the integration. 294 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:19,560 Good boy. 295 00:16:20,300 --> 00:16:23,640 Okay, good. Good news. Love it. Love it, love it, love it, love it, love it. 296 00:16:23,700 --> 00:16:25,840 Phew. Okay. I am just... 297 00:16:26,700 --> 00:16:30,440 really about any little piece of good news I can get, this is one of them, 298 00:16:30,940 --> 00:16:35,020 If I want to go and meet the other half of the equation a little bit, how the 299 00:16:35,020 --> 00:16:36,020 hell do I do that? 300 00:16:36,140 --> 00:16:39,500 So this is part of what we call the kitty swap, kitty ballet. 301 00:16:39,700 --> 00:16:45,220 So the kitty ballet is like we have to really make sure that Little Bit and 302 00:16:45,220 --> 00:16:46,820 Cadbury are not in the same room. 303 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,640 Cadbury's in the bathroom, door closed. We're going to come out, okay? 304 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,900 Okay, she's out. You want me to keep her out? Yes, keep Little Bit out. Okay, we 305 00:16:53,900 --> 00:16:55,540 can open up then. Okay. Yoink. 306 00:16:57,300 --> 00:16:58,300 Yep. 307 00:16:58,460 --> 00:16:59,460 All right. 308 00:16:59,540 --> 00:17:02,660 This is classic Little Bit right here. Well, hi, Little Bit. 309 00:17:02,980 --> 00:17:06,359 Hold on a second. I want to see if I can, just like I did with Cadbury. 310 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,280 There it goes. 311 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,700 Oh, Little Bit has no tail. Yeah. 312 00:17:10,900 --> 00:17:15,240 When I got her home, I noticed that her tail was paralyzed, and the vet said 313 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,599 it's definitely trauma -related, so it needs to be amputated. 314 00:17:18,900 --> 00:17:21,060 Good girl. It's like you never had a tail to begin with. 315 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,060 It's too bad that Little Bit had to have her tail removed. 316 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:25,440 Good girl. 317 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,020 But from my experience, I highly doubt that that could be the reason for any of 318 00:17:29,020 --> 00:17:30,020 her aggression issues. 319 00:17:30,340 --> 00:17:33,160 Now, what I'm going to do, take a little bit of this. 320 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,960 A little bit of Uber Food Motivated. That means we use it to our advantage. 321 00:17:39,060 --> 00:17:43,120 Everything that defines these two cats, they have to be cool for us. In this 322 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:45,940 case, a little bit of attachment to food may not go a long way. 323 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,380 So now, I've met a little bit, right? 324 00:17:49,850 --> 00:17:54,890 I've met Lord Cadbury. Now I know that you may be dreading this part, but this 325 00:17:54,890 --> 00:17:57,750 is what we've got to do. It's time to construct the Berlin Wall, I mean the 326 00:17:57,750 --> 00:17:59,810 barrier, and see what happens. 327 00:18:00,090 --> 00:18:03,870 Because these cats live in total seclusion from one another, I have no 328 00:18:03,870 --> 00:18:05,450 knowing if this is even a workable situation. 329 00:18:05,930 --> 00:18:09,430 I have to see exactly where the challenge line lies with these two cats. 330 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Okay, so what we're going to do is build the biggest wall you got, and then 331 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:19,040 we're going to start stripping it down until we get to a point where the cats 332 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,480 say no more. Okay? But then the idea is, how little of a wall do we need? 333 00:18:23,740 --> 00:18:27,620 Jill, you want to grab those weights over there? You know when it starts with 334 00:18:27,620 --> 00:18:28,620 when you grab the weights. 335 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,000 It's all downhill from there. 336 00:18:32,420 --> 00:18:34,000 This is every time you leave the house. 337 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:35,780 Yeah. 338 00:18:35,980 --> 00:18:40,420 So this barricade started off pretty small, and it's gotten bigger based on 339 00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:42,380 Tadroy's ability to break through it. 340 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:43,960 So tension rods. 341 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,780 I get them up really high so it can't reach them. 342 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:48,900 Air purifier. 343 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:51,460 This kind of fits in perfectly. This usually goes here. 344 00:18:51,700 --> 00:18:53,100 I'm going to stuff this here because it'll go underneath. 345 00:18:53,780 --> 00:18:57,760 And if I'm going out for a really long time, I'll tend to put a blanket or 346 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,800 something. Okay, stuffing in here. 347 00:19:00,180 --> 00:19:01,520 This usually goes here. 348 00:19:02,140 --> 00:19:03,140 Okay, 349 00:19:03,740 --> 00:19:05,180 we are built. 350 00:19:05,870 --> 00:19:09,830 The next step is to release the cats, trying to distract them using play and 351 00:19:09,830 --> 00:19:13,870 food while gradually taking that barrier down to see at what point the 352 00:19:13,870 --> 00:19:14,870 distractions stop working. 353 00:19:15,190 --> 00:19:16,410 And right to the door. 354 00:19:16,790 --> 00:19:20,690 Okay, so she's right at the door right now. Okay, now hold on. Right now, she 355 00:19:20,690 --> 00:19:23,730 focused 100 % on her toy. Okay, let's start breaking it down. 356 00:19:24,030 --> 00:19:25,030 Okay, all right. 357 00:19:26,150 --> 00:19:32,250 The next step would be the screen door, but that's like a big step. Take the big 358 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:34,030 step. All right, I'm moving the door. 359 00:19:34,590 --> 00:19:39,090 I'm feeling anxious because the barrier has become kind of my security blanket. 360 00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:42,310 Okay, he's going straight for the door now. 361 00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:48,330 Come here, baby. I can see him right at the door. He's about to... Oh! There it 362 00:19:48,330 --> 00:19:52,250 goes. A little bit goes charging the door. She hits it with a big thunk. 363 00:19:52,990 --> 00:19:57,210 Oh! And now it's time we got to back up again because I'm going to lose both the 364 00:19:57,210 --> 00:19:58,930 cats and the humans right now. Over here. 365 00:19:59,270 --> 00:20:00,490 Over here. Come on. 366 00:20:01,010 --> 00:20:03,070 Get him involved in the toy. Okay, come here, mom. 367 00:20:03,490 --> 00:20:04,490 Come here. 368 00:20:04,750 --> 00:20:09,270 Okay, I am consistently able to pull her away from the door with treats. 369 00:20:10,270 --> 00:20:12,870 All right, we're doing okay over there? Oh, he just went in the tunnel. 370 00:20:13,090 --> 00:20:15,290 All right, I want to take one more step here, okay? 371 00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:19,290 The good news is we were able to lead a little bit away from that door, even 372 00:20:19,290 --> 00:20:20,530 though she just plowed into it. 373 00:20:21,030 --> 00:20:22,130 So far, so good. 374 00:20:22,370 --> 00:20:26,510 Now it's time to really push that challenge line. I want these two cats to 375 00:20:26,510 --> 00:20:27,289 each other. 376 00:20:27,290 --> 00:20:29,670 Here's what I want. I want visual access. 377 00:20:30,030 --> 00:20:34,090 Kim, while he's in that tunnel, reach over and sneak the door open some more. 378 00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:41,100 A little bit, a little bit. It's going to take treats. Okay. There you go. Ah, 379 00:20:41,340 --> 00:20:42,380 nice going. 380 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,780 Walk that way, man. 381 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,280 Oh, he's coming. 382 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,020 I know. Walk that way. 383 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:48,800 There you go. 384 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:51,840 There 385 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:59,980 you 386 00:20:59,980 --> 00:21:00,980 go. 387 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,480 I have been literally tearing down the walls between Lord Cadbury and Little 388 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,780 to see if, with enough distractions, these two could live together in peace. 389 00:21:11,260 --> 00:21:13,180 So far, things are not going too well. 390 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,400 Ooh! 391 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,560 What'd you get? 392 00:21:15,580 --> 00:21:17,620 I got a good one. She bit you? She bit you? 393 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:18,840 Yeah. 394 00:21:19,420 --> 00:21:22,040 What I just witnessed was classic redirected aggression. 395 00:21:22,340 --> 00:21:25,060 Little Bit just took a chunk out of Joel because he couldn't get at Lord 396 00:21:25,060 --> 00:21:26,060 Cadbury. 397 00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:28,140 Okay, that's fine. 398 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:29,360 Don't worry about it. 399 00:21:29,380 --> 00:21:30,380 Aha! 400 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,840 Now we close the pocket door. 401 00:21:34,170 --> 00:21:37,770 Yes, Little Bit did attack Joel, but I'm taking away some positives from this 402 00:21:37,770 --> 00:21:38,770 exercise. 403 00:21:38,910 --> 00:21:42,730 Lord Cadbury is easily distracted and Little Bit is highly food motivated. 404 00:21:43,810 --> 00:21:47,390 I've seen two cats that could possibly live together. 405 00:21:48,650 --> 00:21:52,910 So, number one, we're going to make this actually a functional piece. 406 00:21:53,130 --> 00:21:57,050 I want both cats to get used to seeing each other safely without the threat of 407 00:21:57,050 --> 00:21:58,050 the door coming open. 408 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:06,440 No more air purifier, books, all that stuff. Gone. Because that keeps you guys 409 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,380 completely barricaded from each other and is crazy. 410 00:22:11,860 --> 00:22:14,320 So let's now talk about the process itself. 411 00:22:14,660 --> 00:22:19,500 Now, what I want you to do is continue the exercises we did today. And we're 412 00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:20,580 back to closed door right now. 413 00:22:21,140 --> 00:22:23,300 Closed door, how long can we do this? 414 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,340 When it comes down to meal time, I want you to start far enough away. 415 00:22:27,580 --> 00:22:30,900 I mean, you can even do what I usually do is I put a marker on the floor and 416 00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:34,860 then move that up every day. Lead the cats away from the door, get them 417 00:22:34,860 --> 00:22:38,160 interested in nothing but the toys and the treats. Then we're going to end it 418 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:38,999 with a meal. 419 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,900 I'd also like to see more in the way of cat trees, things like that. I want to 420 00:22:42,900 --> 00:22:46,320 see some cat trees in the house. That way, these cats, when they're out, can 421 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,300 start swapping scent in a constructive way instead of going for the kill every 422 00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:51,620 time they get glimpses of each other. 423 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:54,860 Finally. I need 150 % dedication. 424 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,120 And that means giving her a name. 425 00:22:58,820 --> 00:23:02,220 Okay. After seven months, I need you to go there. 426 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,360 At the end of this, if they can't be in the same space without being miserable, 427 00:23:06,580 --> 00:23:09,140 then it's time to think about what's best for them. 428 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,620 Sometimes it's kind of heartbreaking to have to deliver the message that folks, 429 00:23:13,620 --> 00:23:15,840 this may not work. There's no guaranteed outcome. 430 00:23:16,180 --> 00:23:19,720 But right now, between these two cats, all I know is they hate each other. And 431 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,840 at the end of all this, we may need to look for another home for a little bit. 432 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,500 So I'm here for my second visit with Samantha and her cat, Spike. 433 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,080 Now, the first time I was here, I met a cat. 434 00:23:37,719 --> 00:23:40,640 Completely different from the cat I thought I was going to meet. I want to 435 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:46,500 that Samantha has taken Spike out of the box, Mark Bastard, and put him in a new 436 00:23:46,500 --> 00:23:48,340 one. Jackson, this is my mom. 437 00:23:48,580 --> 00:23:52,080 Oh, hey, how are you? Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you as well. Good to see 438 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,000 you. And there's our boy. There he is. 439 00:23:54,220 --> 00:23:55,219 Hello, buddy. 440 00:23:55,220 --> 00:23:56,780 So, how have things been? 441 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,060 I still cannot pet Spike at all, or he tries to bite me. 442 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,560 I am so terrified of this cat. 443 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,960 You know, this is truly a cat from hell. Last time I was begging, stop calling 444 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,920 him bastard. My mom gave him the name originally. I didn't exactly give him 445 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,460 name. Every time I came over, he came to attack me. And I was like, you little 446 00:24:18,460 --> 00:24:22,320 bastard. I never in my wildest dreams wanted that name to stick. 447 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,280 Right. Spike is still bastard. Even if you're not calling him that, you're 448 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,280 treating him that way. 449 00:24:27,550 --> 00:24:28,970 What were the results from the vet exam? 450 00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:33,850 The vet said Spike is healthy and all the blood work came back good. Right on. 451 00:24:33,970 --> 00:24:34,970 So that's really good to know. 452 00:24:35,410 --> 00:24:36,410 And he looks healthy. 453 00:24:36,550 --> 00:24:37,550 So that's great. 454 00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:40,890 Well, the good news is that Spike came back with a totally clean bill of 455 00:24:41,010 --> 00:24:44,370 which is great. I mean, that clears the way to work with behavior and get 456 00:24:44,370 --> 00:24:48,210 Samantha and the rest of her family on the side of Spike. Let's take a look at 457 00:24:48,210 --> 00:24:49,270 the homework that I have for you. 458 00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:54,550 Here is how not to play with your cat 101. 459 00:24:57,740 --> 00:25:01,240 You can't just dangle a stick and call that play. 460 00:25:01,540 --> 00:25:02,540 Can I try to pet you? 461 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,340 I just wanted to say hello to you. 462 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,640 Come on, out! 463 00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:08,340 Mom. 464 00:25:09,860 --> 00:25:10,860 Hey! 465 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,140 There's a vicious cycle that I'm seeing where, first of all, there's a lot of 466 00:25:15,140 --> 00:25:16,140 emphasis on petting. 467 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,360 And secondly, you guys don't really take the hint. 468 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,520 If I can pet Spike, he's a nice cat. 469 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,700 If I can't pet Spike, he's a demon. 470 00:25:24,170 --> 00:25:27,550 I can't pet Spike. He's a demon. The whole family is that way. There's too 471 00:25:27,550 --> 00:25:28,930 emphasis on petting. 472 00:25:29,150 --> 00:25:33,250 I just woke up, and so there's some snow on the ground, and I'm going to go let 473 00:25:33,250 --> 00:25:34,390 Spike inside now. 474 00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:38,950 I feel bad he has to stay outside in the snow, but I can't have him inside 475 00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:39,950 attacking me. 476 00:25:40,050 --> 00:25:41,930 Come on, you know exactly what I'm going to say, right? 477 00:25:42,170 --> 00:25:43,169 No. No? 478 00:25:43,170 --> 00:25:45,130 You absolutely didn't listen to me. 479 00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:47,870 What was the thing I wanted you to do? 480 00:25:59,210 --> 00:26:00,490 What was the thing I wanted you to do? 481 00:26:00,950 --> 00:26:01,950 Call him Spike. 482 00:26:01,970 --> 00:26:02,970 No. 483 00:26:03,550 --> 00:26:07,030 There's something that's not adding up here in her head. 484 00:26:07,690 --> 00:26:12,730 Yes, I'm looking at pictures of your cat outside when I told you not to do it. I 485 00:26:12,730 --> 00:26:14,390 told you I didn't want him to go outside anymore. 486 00:26:14,910 --> 00:26:16,230 I want him to be an indoor cat. 487 00:26:17,270 --> 00:26:18,269 You don't remember? 488 00:26:18,270 --> 00:26:21,410 I do remember. You absolutely didn't listen to me. 489 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,140 There's no way that we can get a hold of who he is and how to fix what's going 490 00:26:27,140 --> 00:26:31,040 on with him if he's living half a life of an outdoor cat, half a life of an 491 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,040 indoor cat. 492 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:33,920 You guys, come on, follow me. 493 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,980 Why is this still here? 494 00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:38,680 That's Spike's house. No, it's not Spike's house. 495 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,420 No, this is not Spike's house anymore. 496 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,760 This is not Spike's house. That is Spike's house. 497 00:26:45,060 --> 00:26:47,180 This is trash, man. 498 00:26:47,740 --> 00:26:48,840 Are you hearing me? 499 00:26:49,260 --> 00:26:50,820 I hear you. I need you to hear me. 500 00:26:51,370 --> 00:26:57,050 If he doesn't live here, he might as well be astray. Let's go back and it's 501 00:26:57,050 --> 00:26:57,929 cold. 502 00:26:57,930 --> 00:27:02,410 Your best friend deserves to sleep in the house, in the warmth with you. 503 00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:04,930 Let me start giving you guys some homework, okay? 504 00:27:05,570 --> 00:27:08,730 Number one, as I've demonstrated, he's inside. 505 00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:13,430 Now, in the meantime, though, I want you to get into a real strict habit with 506 00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:17,730 him, all right? So in the morning and once at night before you go to bed, 507 00:27:17,730 --> 00:27:18,950 going to have these play sessions. 508 00:27:19,939 --> 00:27:22,080 Demonstrating, right? You're using the whole house. 509 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,740 Then, once he's played, that's when you feed him a meal. Because you're trying 510 00:27:25,740 --> 00:27:29,800 to get his body into a rhythm that will keep him asleep at night. Right. I do 511 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,120 need everyone to be able to just sit there and ignore him. Nobody can pet him 512 00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:37,800 all. I don't want anybody to pet him. Because I think by relieving everybody 513 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:43,140 the expectation that we give him a chance to be normal. Let him do what he 514 00:27:43,140 --> 00:27:47,460 to do. And when everyone else is gone, if you want to experiment, that's fine. 515 00:27:47,870 --> 00:27:50,710 I'm happy you guys are going to be happy, okay? Okay, thank you very much. 516 00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:54,430 course, my pleasure. The cat is the victim in this case, and it's really 517 00:27:54,430 --> 00:28:01,070 important that they allow him to show how he can be a part of the family. So 518 00:28:01,070 --> 00:28:04,090 they can commit to the seriousness of the problem here, I think we can get 519 00:28:04,090 --> 00:28:05,090 somewhere. 520 00:28:05,310 --> 00:28:07,870 Then again, I thought that the last time I was here. 521 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,980 I'm in Brooklyn for my second visit with Kim and Joel, their cat, Lord Cadbury, 522 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:27,520 and the other cat who has no name yet. Last time I was here, it was quite the 523 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,260 mess. Little Bit was trying to attack Lord Cadbury and instead redirected that 524 00:28:32,260 --> 00:28:33,260 aggression onto Joel. 525 00:28:33,580 --> 00:28:36,840 Hopefully these guys have taken down the barriers and they've been working 526 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,440 really hard at getting these two cats comfortable enough to coexist with one 527 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,440 another. 528 00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:43,279 Okay. Come on in. 529 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,800 Welcome. Thank you very much. Oh, wait a minute. What do we have here? 530 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,660 We have a very, very nice cat tree, man. And wait for it, wait for it. 531 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,880 I walk into this house, and boom. 532 00:28:56,180 --> 00:28:58,180 No barrier of stuff. 533 00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:02,360 Obviously, we still have to have Lord Cadbury locked away in another room for 534 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,900 now, because we can't have these two cats running around freely with each 535 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,920 not just yet. 536 00:29:07,860 --> 00:29:09,820 But hey, it's definitely the right direction. 537 00:29:10,180 --> 00:29:11,360 We have a door. 538 00:29:11,820 --> 00:29:12,880 This is the best. 539 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,260 We have a latch now on this door so we can actually lock this. Because Lord 540 00:29:17,260 --> 00:29:19,100 Cadbury's a master of breaking and entering. 541 00:29:19,420 --> 00:29:21,920 Yeah, and then we have the option of the screen. 542 00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:24,460 Oh, did you nail it. 543 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,080 Now that these guys have that shade, they can reveal the cats little by 544 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,740 to each other until both cats are fully comfortable. 545 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:38,440 The last time I was here, one of my main things with you guys, let's give her a 546 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,440 name. 547 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,460 We've been thinking about it? We got one. Lay it on me. What is it? Lady 548 00:29:42,460 --> 00:29:45,400 Paprika. Lady Paprika and Lord Cadbury. 549 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,460 Of course, I've got her homework. 550 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,860 All right, let's take a look here. A little bit. He's here, eating. 551 00:29:52,460 --> 00:29:53,460 Come here. 552 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,280 Come here, baby. 553 00:29:58,180 --> 00:29:59,740 All right, redirected. 554 00:30:00,260 --> 00:30:01,820 Nice. Here we go. 555 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,820 Cadbury. That's a good boy. Come here. I'm really impressed with what I'm 556 00:30:05,820 --> 00:30:06,820 here. 557 00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:12,220 We've got proper distraction with play and treats, and we've got two cats who 558 00:30:12,220 --> 00:30:15,800 can eat on opposite sides of the door. Now, this is really important because 559 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,220 today's exercises are going to build on that foundation. 560 00:30:18,740 --> 00:30:22,820 Okay, so what we're going to do here, we're going to go from play to eat. 561 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,880 Now, here's the part I need you to breathe around. 562 00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:29,960 There is going to be complete vision contact between these two cats. 563 00:30:30,220 --> 00:30:32,240 They're going to be able to see each other completely. 564 00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:35,100 Then your job becomes in a very... 565 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,740 present and relaxed way to keep them busy on what they're doing. 566 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,900 It's about play and complete absorption into play. Today, we're going to 567 00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:48,260 introduce absolute visual contact between these two cats. 568 00:30:48,580 --> 00:30:51,040 Let's start. Joel, can you raise the curtain, please? 569 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,460 Yes, sir. Here you go. Raise that curtain. 570 00:30:54,260 --> 00:30:55,600 Right there is fine. 571 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,040 Go for it. 572 00:30:57,220 --> 00:30:58,740 In comes Lord Cadbury. 573 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:04,520 Let the games begin, baby. So right now we're at the door. We've got Joel, Lady 574 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,480 Paprika on one side. We've got Kim and Lord Cadbury on the other side. And the 575 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,860 goal of the game, much like it was last time, is to get the cats playing, moving 576 00:31:13,860 --> 00:31:15,480 around on opposite sides of the door. 577 00:31:15,820 --> 00:31:17,520 Comfortably seeing one another through that screen. 578 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,800 Without trying to kill each other. There he comes. 579 00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:26,600 It's okay. If it fails, it fails in a big way. 580 00:31:27,070 --> 00:31:29,270 Joel, try to keep Lady P away from that door. 581 00:31:30,890 --> 00:31:31,890 Come here, come here. 582 00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:32,510 Come 583 00:31:32,510 --> 00:31:42,170 here, 584 00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:43,230 come here. 585 00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:48,570 As the exercise starts unfolding... 586 00:31:48,810 --> 00:31:50,390 Joel fails immediately. 587 00:31:50,790 --> 00:31:55,450 He cannot get Lady Paprika's attention to save his life. And within 15 seconds, 588 00:31:55,550 --> 00:31:58,510 bang, she is throwing herself against the door. 589 00:32:00,310 --> 00:32:01,570 But it's not the end here. 590 00:32:01,810 --> 00:32:05,250 Joel and Kim need to engage these cats so they're not engaging with each other. 591 00:32:05,470 --> 00:32:06,389 Come here. 592 00:32:06,390 --> 00:32:07,390 Oh, yeah. 593 00:32:07,730 --> 00:32:08,730 Nice. 594 00:32:12,030 --> 00:32:13,030 There you go. 595 00:32:13,450 --> 00:32:18,330 There you go. As I'm watching this exercise unfold, Joel has got Lady 596 00:32:18,330 --> 00:32:21,830 handled, and Kim's doing great with Lord Cadbury. I'm pretty impressed with the 597 00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:25,210 progress I'm seeing here. Okay, I think we're about ready. Let's get dinner time 598 00:32:25,210 --> 00:32:28,070 going now. And go ahead, put your food on the ground right now. 599 00:32:28,290 --> 00:32:30,430 Okay. Past our challenge line, folks. 600 00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:35,090 Lady Paprika is incredibly food motivated. The go fish platter that I've 601 00:32:35,090 --> 00:32:39,270 going to slow her down to the point where she can finish her meal at the 602 00:32:39,270 --> 00:32:43,090 time that Lord Cadbury does, and that is a huge benefit to us. 603 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,500 Because the longer that these two can eat in front of each other without 604 00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:48,080 freaking out, the better it is for us. 605 00:32:49,020 --> 00:32:50,880 Oh, my God, they're close. Wow. 606 00:32:51,740 --> 00:32:53,460 Look at this, guys. This is amazing. 607 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,940 This is fantastic, guys. 608 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,440 Oh, and he's walking away. 609 00:33:00,740 --> 00:33:04,740 A couple of weeks ago, I couldn't envision what's happening right now. So 610 00:33:04,740 --> 00:33:08,560 that point, I'm able to kind of calm down a little bit. That would be a 611 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,620 day. All right. Nice going, guys. 612 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,640 I want that moment to resonate with Kim and with Joel as well. 613 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,320 This is what it could look like for you guys. 614 00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:23,940 All right. So every meal is going to look like this. Okay. The most important 615 00:33:23,940 --> 00:33:27,580 thing that we got right now is continuing the positive steps that we 616 00:33:27,580 --> 00:33:30,860 today. It's all about visual exposure with the screen door being between you. 617 00:33:32,340 --> 00:33:37,360 We're still quite a ways away from opening this door. Yeah. And letting 618 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,120 cats be in the same room. Yeah. And I want to get there. 619 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,900 And as a matter of fact, I will do it regardless the next time I'm here. Oh, 620 00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:48,500 God. You better be ready, man, because we have to make a call. 621 00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:52,600 Are they both going to live here or are we going to go for the greater good? I 622 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,100 always want to reward commitment and hard work. 623 00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:57,260 Kim and Joel are doing the work. 624 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,180 They deserve the happiness of having these two cats in their lives. 625 00:34:01,420 --> 00:34:02,680 Do I see it happening? 626 00:34:03,140 --> 00:34:04,300 I'm still 50 -50. 627 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,000 I'm here for my final visit with Joel and Kim, and the questions are very 628 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,560 right now. Can Lady Paprika and Lord Cadbury get along enough for Lady 629 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,540 to have a home here, or is she going to be a foster cat destined for somebody 630 00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:25,498 else's home? 631 00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:30,100 Well, as always, I have brought your video homework with me. 632 00:34:31,429 --> 00:34:33,790 We got her. We got her. We got her. Yeah. 633 00:34:34,210 --> 00:34:35,449 Oh, my God. 634 00:34:35,770 --> 00:34:38,050 Welcome to the Crazy Cat Lady Club, son. 635 00:34:38,290 --> 00:34:39,850 Hey, I think it's fantastic. 636 00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:43,810 I love what you did catification -wise in the bedroom. 637 00:34:44,010 --> 00:34:48,610 You had that refined feline shelf. You've got this nice choice of levels 638 00:34:48,610 --> 00:34:54,870 cat. Okay, so this is our first attempt through the screen eating. 639 00:34:55,850 --> 00:34:59,070 She did a lunge at the door, but it wasn't too bad. 640 00:34:59,390 --> 00:35:01,010 Cadbury, stay there. You're doing great. 641 00:35:01,330 --> 00:35:02,330 Good boy. 642 00:35:02,770 --> 00:35:03,770 She moved. 643 00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:04,910 Good girl. 644 00:35:05,130 --> 00:35:08,650 You know, looking at the video homework, I'm seeing tools being developed by 645 00:35:08,650 --> 00:35:12,470 both Kim and Joel, and all of those tools are going to come to bear today. I 646 00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:16,070 loved that bit where there was a stare down. You guys did not give up. You 647 00:35:16,070 --> 00:35:17,130 didn't step in the middle. 648 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,440 You guys are allowing it to go as far as it's going to go. And if it weren't for 649 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,060 that, we wouldn't have had that beautiful moment of stare down and then 650 00:35:26,060 --> 00:35:29,980 turning around and going away. It's great news to hear that Lady Paprika is 651 00:35:29,980 --> 00:35:33,760 longer throwing herself against the door to get to Lord Cadbury. Now she's doing 652 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,400 some hissing. That's normal communication. 653 00:35:35,620 --> 00:35:39,720 And we're going to need to seek normal communication today if we have any hope 654 00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:41,660 of getting through the day without blood being drawn. 655 00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:45,740 Okay, the time for talk is done. Now it's the time for action. 656 00:35:45,980 --> 00:35:46,980 You guys ready? 657 00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:48,220 Ready? We're down. 658 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,240 Yeah. I'm ready. Okay, let's go. 659 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,940 I got to know that these cats can see that there's value in other things 660 00:35:55,940 --> 00:36:00,020 each other. That's it. So, guys, this is the first time since the big fight that 661 00:36:00,020 --> 00:36:02,880 these two cats will be in the same room at the same time. 662 00:36:03,420 --> 00:36:04,880 Good going. Good girl. 663 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,078 Come on, girl. 664 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,740 There you go. Come on, girl. Using your crazy cat lady voice. I like it. It's 665 00:36:09,740 --> 00:36:10,740 easy. 666 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,360 Here you go, baby. 667 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,200 Okay. Oh, ****. 668 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,180 This is the first time since the big fight that these two cats will be in the 669 00:36:37,180 --> 00:36:39,700 same room at the same time. Here you go, baby. 670 00:36:40,780 --> 00:36:41,780 Okay. 671 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,700 What defines success in this case is cats that will eat a meal and be led 672 00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:51,440 by a toy, treat, or whatever, and not go after each other. 673 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,000 Oh. 674 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,280 Good boy. 675 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,700 Good girl. 676 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:10,240 The first time I was here, a little bit, lunged at the door so hard that she 677 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:13,540 almost knocked herself out. The last time I was here, she did it again. 678 00:37:13,780 --> 00:37:18,660 And today, she doesn't even come close. She allows Cadbury to smell her and move 679 00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:21,620 on. It's a momentous occasion in this cat's life. 680 00:37:21,860 --> 00:37:22,860 Look at this. 681 00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:30,420 And I am closing this door. Good girl. And you are officially... 682 00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:35,780 Finished. The moment when Jackson says the exercise is done is really sweet 683 00:37:35,780 --> 00:37:40,540 because, you know, there's just been so much turmoil involved with this cat. 684 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,300 I am so incredibly grateful to Jackson. I did not imagine that in this short 685 00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:49,380 period of time we would get this far. And seeing, you know, with just, you 686 00:37:49,380 --> 00:37:53,520 some help and some tweaks in this house, what can happen is amazing to me. 687 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,840 Thank you, Jackson. 688 00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:56,740 Bye, guys. This is one of those days. 689 00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:00,680 Everything went beautifully, and it wasn't just about the cats being able to 690 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,680 in the same room. 691 00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:06,220 Joe and Kim have the tools now, and they have the willingness to use those 692 00:38:06,220 --> 00:38:09,980 tools, and that's what matters. I know that this home is going to be a happy 693 00:38:09,980 --> 00:38:10,980 one. 694 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,300 Final visit with Samantha and Spike. This has been a house of surprises. I 695 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:31,740 the last time I was here, Samantha did not do her homework and oh 696 00:38:31,740 --> 00:38:38,200 come on seriously 697 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:44,260 well hi hello how are you we got something to talk about don't we oh 698 00:38:44,260 --> 00:38:51,000 come on in oh hey there hi how are you how are you hey I'm Jackson I'm 699 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,520 Steve Steve good to meet you man good to see you again hi 700 00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:56,670 How's life? 701 00:38:57,130 --> 00:39:00,110 So? Samantha, time to come clean. 702 00:39:00,370 --> 00:39:04,390 Last time I was here, I tossed that feral cat house in the trash. 703 00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:06,590 And it's back again. 704 00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:08,490 Why is that house out there? 705 00:39:12,490 --> 00:39:18,210 Well, I took the cat house out of the garbage just in case if I got outside, 706 00:39:18,210 --> 00:39:20,330 he would have a place to stay. 707 00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:21,368 Just in case? 708 00:39:21,370 --> 00:39:23,430 Just in case. But are you letting him outside? 709 00:39:23,930 --> 00:39:26,350 He has been 100 % inside. 710 00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:28,189 Go, girl. 711 00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:29,190 That's fantastic. 712 00:39:29,330 --> 00:39:30,229 Okay, good. 713 00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:31,390 I'm glad to hear that. 714 00:39:31,650 --> 00:39:35,350 So I would love to go over your video homework and see what you guys have been 715 00:39:35,350 --> 00:39:36,350 up to. 716 00:39:37,790 --> 00:39:39,190 Whoa, that's a jump. 717 00:39:40,010 --> 00:39:41,170 Now you're playing. 718 00:39:41,590 --> 00:39:43,470 Did Peppa copy your head spike? 719 00:39:44,770 --> 00:39:45,770 Good boy. 720 00:39:46,110 --> 00:39:49,950 I love what you did there. Samantha didn't just go to Peppa's bike and have 721 00:39:49,950 --> 00:39:51,290 make that little turn. 722 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,840 But she kept her hand there, allowed him to smell it and say, OK, you're not a 723 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,300 threat. If she would have pulled her hand away, it would have been a 724 00:39:59,300 --> 00:40:00,218 story altogether. 725 00:40:00,220 --> 00:40:03,920 Have you guys been involved in the home? We've been playing with him a little 726 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,880 bit. I've never seen him as calm. Normally he'd be in the attack position. 727 00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:13,720 He's thoroughly relaxed and he's totally down and chill. The cat is much more 728 00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:19,820 docile now and seems that it can be integrated into polite society at this 729 00:40:21,130 --> 00:40:22,390 That's a plus. 730 00:40:22,730 --> 00:40:26,010 So in the past couple weeks since the last time we were here and he's been 731 00:40:26,010 --> 00:40:30,250 indoors only, has he made a move toward anybody else that's been aggressive? 732 00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:34,990 No. Great. He'll play and then he won't attack. 733 00:40:35,230 --> 00:40:39,870 How do you feel like your relationship has changed with him? He's definitely 734 00:40:39,870 --> 00:40:43,050 known as mean bastard anymore. He's known as Spike. 735 00:40:43,570 --> 00:40:46,210 Good. And he's part of my family. 736 00:40:47,370 --> 00:40:48,730 Now that's music to my ears. 737 00:40:49,050 --> 00:40:52,850 I've loved walking away from places where people can see animals in a 738 00:40:52,850 --> 00:40:57,990 light. I'm sure that this family had no idea that Spike could respond to their 739 00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:59,830 energy. That's what happened here. 740 00:41:05,470 --> 00:41:10,590 The hell isn't over yet. Go to the My Cat From Hell Facebook page for 741 00:41:10,590 --> 00:41:12,410 gifts and much more. 62144

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