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My two Don's boys are crazy pants.
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I'm starting to be a nervous wreck.
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We just broke it last week.
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Igor thinks I'm a human ladder.
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Oh, Igor.
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I'm not relaxed when I cook.
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He sits right on the stove.
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Whoa, that's a disaster waiting to
happen.
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I just fell into feeding the hen. And
then all of a sudden, it was like 30.
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If you feed them and you don't fix them,
you are breeding.
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It is kind of an issue.
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You're dealing with a community that is
pretty close to the end of their rope
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here. It's go time. We are setting up
the trap.
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He tripped all of them.
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We're starting to think that maybe
somebody doesn't want us here.
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I don't want to leave him here, but I
got no place to put him. His life is
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to be a short one. It's a distressing
reality. This breaks my heart.
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I'm Jack in the Galaxy. I am Cat.
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The animal behavior.
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Wow. The guardian's call.
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And they're dealing with a difficult
cat.
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Wow, he really got you.
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I'm out to prove that there is no such
thing as a bad cat. Just a cat that
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my help. You did it.
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My
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name's
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Steven. My name's Ellen.
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My name's Dylan.
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And... A neighbor was feeding cats, and
I thought, that's so nice of her.
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And one day she said to me, I'm moving.
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I didn't even give it too much thought,
and I just started feeding cats.
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Here, here's some chicken.
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The minute you start feeding a cat,
they're yours.
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I'm a cat lover myself. We want to help
them, but it keeps growing.
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This is a mom cat right here.
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She's had about three or four litters
already.
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Do I feel like a crazy cat lady?
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Probably from the outside looking in,
but I don't feel like a crazy cat lady.
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do it because I feel like it's my job.
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There's a lot of stigma having a cat
colony.
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My neighbors go crazy because there's so
many cats.
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I worry about mom because the
responsibility she takes can sometimes
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emotional. You know, it's sad. They
don't have a home. This is magic.
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That's brother.
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That's Sam.
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That's Frankie.
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I am feeling overwhelmed, but I wouldn't
stop helping cats because they're my
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responsibility. I took them on.
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Every morning, my mother wakes up early.
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I'm going to feed a lot of cats.
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And when she comes home from work, she
needs to feed the cats late at night. So
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I like to help her. It smells delicious,
doesn't it? If I'm not around, I feel
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bad because it has so many trays.
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It's heartbreaking for me because they
keep multiplying.
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And I can't get a handle on it. This is
the other mom cat.
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I'm asking for Jackson's help now
because if he can help me get any of
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adopted, it would be wonderful.
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Figuring out a solution with Jackson
helping us, that would be awesome.
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And we need all the help we can get.
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Today I'm dealing with a feral colony in
Southern California.
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Feral cats, they're not just stray cats.
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They have been born out on the street.
They have no social contact with humans.
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They are feral, which is to say that
they're not pets.
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They're meant to be out here, not in
your house.
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I'm scoping out the neighborhood before
I go in to meet the family so I know
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what I'm looking for.
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Hi.
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How you doing?
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This feral cat... all over the country.
Now, what makes Southern California
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special is that there is no winter. It's
always hot.
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Cats can go into heat when the weather
conditions are right. And the weather
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condition is always right in Los
Angeles, which means they're always
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Hi. It's estimated in the county of Los
Angeles, there's over 2 million feral
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cats roaming around here. The only way
that we can effectively manage feral
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communities is a system called Trap,
Neuter, Return, TNR.
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We trap these guys.
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We neuter them.
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We put them back out here.
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And so that way, they don't reproduce.
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And just like that, this colony will be
contained. It is by far the most humane
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approach. And that's what we're here
for.
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Hey. Hey. How are you? Hi.
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How long have you lived here?
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25. 25 years? Yeah. Okay. And in that 25
years, when was the first time you
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realized you had... A feral cat issue.
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Well, here's the thing. The neighbor was
taking care of these cats.
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And then she told me she was moving. And
I just sort of naturally fell into
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feeding the cats.
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Yeah. Do you remember how many that you
were dealing with?
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Say 10.
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Okay. And then all of a sudden, within,
you know, just recently, it was like 30.
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Recently? Yeah.
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It was just overwhelming.
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I can't get a handle on it. I totally
hear you.
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If you spend enough time around the cat
rescue community like I do, you see
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people like Ellen and her sons, and you
just recognize them immediately.
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They're people with huge hearts who just
care about the cats. But in this case,
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the size of that colony has just gotten
out of control, and we've got to step in
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right now before it gets any bigger.
These guys just need a little bit of
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direction, hopefully.
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When your neighbor was like, I'm out of
here, I'm moving, had you any history
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with trapping?
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I rented five traps one time. I got one
cat.
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So you put out traps.
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and these guys just won't go in.
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Right. Okay. Do you have neighbors who
are not so happy about the TNR efforts?
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See, I don't know. A lot of the
neighbors feed the cats, but I have had
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with the neighbors before. Yes, the cats
poop in everyone's yard.
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They want me to take care of the
problem.
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Every single thing falls on me. For the
whole neighborhood.
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I can see the frustration written all
over Ellen's face. She needs some help.
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It's very important for me.
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to be a source of education for this
entire neighborhood.
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We are presenting a humane solution, and
hopefully the entire neighborhood is
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going to jump behind it because we have
no chance of success here unless we have
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community buy -in.
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The best thing that we can do is get a
lay of the land here, where you guys
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feed, where these guys congregate, so I
just have a good picture in my head. So
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if you want to just lead me around, that
would be great. Go for it. Go.
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There's feeding stations all over here.
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I don't like the fact that they're out
in the open.
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I don't like the fact that there's so
many of them, because in terms of
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everybody, having them right outside
your window is the best place, because
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the trap goes off, you'll be right
there. So what I would love to start
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especially with the across -the -street
cats, let's start getting them over here
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into one basic feeding station.
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Okay.
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Tonight, I'm just going to come out here
around feeding time with Ellen, watch
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how she does it, because I want to see
what makes up this colony.
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I also want to talk to a few neighbors
today to talk about their experience
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the ferals. What's your name? Oh,
Krista. Krista, great to meet you. I got
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of experience trapping, so we're really
hoping to at least start to get a handle
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on things. It is kind of a nuisance. We
don't want 40 cats roaming our
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neighborhood. If we keep getting three
litters of kittens in my backyard every
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year.
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I don't want 12 cats living in my
backyard. I have small children. We want
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population to decrease.
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I come across one of Helen's neighbors
who feeds these cats as pests,
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You know you're dealing with a community
that is pretty close to the end of
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their rope here. The second you get a
colony Tienard, the numbers go down.
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I'm just concerned about the people who
like to still feed them because they
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enjoy the company of the cat.
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Which we know is just going to make the
population grow. Right. People think
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that they're being kind by feeding the
feral cats.
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But if you feed them and you don't fix
them, you are breeding.
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You know that whole thing, it takes a
village? We need complete community buy
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-in or we don't stand a snowball's
chance in hell of containing the
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Man, it is pat o 'clock.
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Once we're done feeding, I'm just going
to spend the rest of my time walking
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around and getting a lay of the land.
Okay, here we go.
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Tonight, what I'm hoping to do is I want
to see where she puts food. I want to
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know when and where I'm going to stand
the best chance of success when it comes
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to traffic. So that's what tonight's
recon's all about.
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All right, I'm going to let you go back
in. I'm going to go off on my own and do
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some recon around here.
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I'd love you to do it. Thank you.
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Okay, see you in a minute.
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So I want to get a feel for how many
cats we have out here, but at the same
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time, I want to get a feel for how many
kittens we have that are tame enough to
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be adopted, because really, feral
kittens only have a very short window of
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socialization. After a few months, by
and large, they become too wild to be in
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household. And that life that they're
going to have outside is a lot shorter
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than the life they would have had
inside. It's a distressing reality.
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Come on back over.
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Man, if I can touch these guys, that
means we might even be able to not have
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trap you.
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You, I can pretty much take, I think.
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You think so?
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My love.
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My love.
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I know. There you go.
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Wow. Let me see that.
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Half of me wants to take this guy with
me.
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He's right in between came and not.
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Ah, this breaks my heart a little bit.
Like, I don't want to leave him here,
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but... I got no place to put him.
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It's a rare thing to come up across a
six, seven, eight -month -old kitten on
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the streets who's feral, who is actually
tame and can go home with somebody and
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isn't in a home from somebody. And what
these guys have to realize, this is a
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ticking clock.
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They are soon going to be adults who are
unadoptable, and they are going to live
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a very short life on these streets.
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I mean, you've got to figure if you get
them once, you're going to get them
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again.
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And the last place I want to check out
is straight down this way.
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Hi, babies.
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Hi.
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And these are all the kittens.
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And we already found out that one of
them is this close to tame.
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There's a lot of cats out here.
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Hey.
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I think I saw a lot of the guys you're
dealing with.
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Let's sit down and I will give you your
homework.
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All right.
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So there's part of this homework that's
going to be very easy for you guys and
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part that's going to be hard.
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The easy part is consolidating the
feeding station.
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So I'd like you to get, I'd say, two
feeding stations left.
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What we're getting to the point where we
can do is stage our first sort of mega
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trap. The second thing I'm going to have
you do, here's the hard part, is start
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talking to the neighbors.
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Okay, because we all have to be on the
same page at the very least 48 hours
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before nobody else feeds. Then we can
trap. Otherwise, we don't have a chance.
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The cats have to be fed in one place and
one place only. Okay. So let's just
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start there.
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Oh, good. I'm glad you're happy at
least.
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I'm glad you're happy at least because
I'm telling you these things and I know
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that it's a lot of weight.
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There's a lot of work to be done here.
Ellen has to go around her neighborhood,
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let her neighbors know what she's doing.
It's really important to get community
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buy -in, and it's on Ellen to get that
ball rolling.
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Have a good one.
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All right.
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I'm Debbie.
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And we are in Marina del Rey,
California.
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And I have two Don's boys, which are
Russian hairless cats.
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Boris is two years old, and Igor is a
year and a half. And they are insane.
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Living with Boris and Igor is like
living with two toddler chimpanzees with
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razor -sharp claws.
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It is constant chaos.
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Oh, Igor.
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They knock over all of my Day of the
Dead stuff. Can't think it's the
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thing ever.
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My bathroom is one of the hot zones. If
I do not keep the door shut, all hell
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will break loose.
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They make it nearly impossible to do
anything.
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Boris, come out of there, please.
Cooking is one of my favorite things to
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and it is now one of the most stressful
things that I do.
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Now I've got to clean up this disaster.
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Enough is enough. Jackson, please come
and help us.
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I'm starting to be a nervous wreck.
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Oh. Hey.
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I'm about to meet Debbie and her two
cats. Now, Igor and Boris are dance
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Very energetic, kind of trouble
-seeking, and that's exactly what I'm
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into here. I got Debbie at the end of
her rope, and I got two cats swinging
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the end of that rope. Let's see what I
can do about it.
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Hello. How are you? I'm Jackson. So nice
to meet you, Debbie.
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Debbie, good to see you.
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Have a seat. I was expecting to be
completely accosted by crazy cats.
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They've gotten shy now, and they're
hanging out in the closet at the moment.
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the closet. They're not really hiding.
They're just on their top little shelf
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there. Well, we'll go say hi to them and
everything. So what differentiates a
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Donskoy from a Sphinx?
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Donskoy, the hairless trait, is
dominant.
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So they don't have as many health issues
as Sphinx do.
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Their one kind of weak spot is they're
prone to gingivitis.
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That's the worst? Yeah. Yeah, that's the
bad.
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They're highly intelligent. They're both
smarter than what I call a hair cat.
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I got Boris from a Ukrainian breeder,
but I could not bear the fact that Boris
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would be by himself.
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So I decided to get Boris his own
kitten. From the moment Igor arrived,
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been constant chaos.
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Fill me in. What's going on? My two
Donskoy's are...
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They're crazy pants.
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Wait, I'll write that down. That goes in
the free description.
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Crazy pants. They have what we call
riots, where they just get the spins and
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running around the apartment like
lunatics with razor -sharp claws.
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They get in my face when I'm cooking,
Boris especially.
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He sits on the stove next to a pressure
cooker by making homemade chicken stock.
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Right on the stove. He's also taking a
flying leap at the oven when there's
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something in there cooking.
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Wow. Debbie's kitchen is a playground
for cats. Debbie is literally and
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figuratively playing with fire up there,
man. What about if we were just sitting
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here hanging out watching TV?
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I mean, Boris has an appetite for
destruction.
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What have they broken around here? Have
they caused a lot of... Everything.
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Welcome to his scratching post.
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Really, really beautiful.
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But, I mean, if I was him, I'd be like,
game on.
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You know what I mean? That cabinet, game
on. I mean, there's a lot of game on in
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this place.
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The entire house is this wonderful folk
art playground for little energetic
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cats. Come on. If you already have cats
that are Dennis the Menace incarnate,
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you put stuff like this out there and
you are asking for it. How many hours a
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day are you away from the home?
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You know, on a good day, 10.
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On a day if I have to take clients out
or I have an event.
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then I don't get home until, you know,
11 o 'clock at night. Yike. Debbie
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home as late as she does is a problem.
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Her being gone for 10 to 12 hours a day
and then expecting these already
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energetic cats to just adhere to her
schedule is completely unrealistic.
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It's like having two preschoolers at
home. If you've left two preschoolers at
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home for 12 hours expecting when you
come home for the place not to be
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destroyed, you'd be wrong.
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Well, what do you do?
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I'm executive producer for a music
company that does music for commercials.
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Oh, right on. And I have taken them to
the studio.
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Seriously? Mm -hmm. Are they good there?
Yeah. That might be a lifesaver there.
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All right, let's get up, take a walk
around here and see the kind of havoc
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Don's Boys are wreaking around here,
okay? Yes.
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All right, into the bedroom.
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Yep. Oh, I see a Don's Boy nose.
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This is like the back -jumping zone.
Igor.
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Thinks I'm a human ladder. And he does
it primarily in the closet when I'm
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trying to pick out my clothes in the
morning. And then I get a cat hanging
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my back every day.
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They are tree dwellers. They like to be
up high.
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And if you present that wonderful
target...
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Bang, man.
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Donkeys are firmly tree dwellers. I
mean, they perch on the top of a door
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so I want Debbie to put up shelves that
will lead to this final shelf where the
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donkeys can be as gargoyly as they want
to be, but they're not going to get in
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their way at the same time. And that's
something for us to work on. Yes. Okay,
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great. I'm seeing some of your toys that
are hanging out here. Go through this
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with me. Mm -hmm. And show me.
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What has high value? There is one toy
that they really, really, really, really
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like. I have no more of them because
they break it in a day or two. Now I'm
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getting to know your cats.
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If it breaks, it's high value.
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These guys destroy what they love.
Right. You look at their toy basket and
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just this mess of tangled nonsense.
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It's time to get down and dirty about
this kind of thing and show Debbie that
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the only way your cats are going to be
satisfied is if they have toys that
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actually work for them. Now, moving over
to artwork here.
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This stuff is just begging for it. Oh,
he utilizes it. He's knocked all this
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stuff over. And this guy has made it
almost 20 years, and he just broke it
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week. Oh, man.
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We have, I mean, this.
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Oh, my God.
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I just became a dance guy. I'm so sorry.
Channel Digor.
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Debbie's house is 90 % no zone.
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I knock stuff off the shelf. Everything
is a no. There's got to be a yes behind
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every no, or nothing's going to work in
this house.
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So I like to cook a lot.
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Okay. The last time that I was making
soup stock, Boris got on the stove. He
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turned on the burner with his foot.
Whoa.
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That stove, that's a disaster waiting to
happen.
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I'm in Marina Del Rey and I'm going
through the house with Debbie. He turned
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the burner with his foot. Whoa. That
stove is a total catastrophe.
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He's going to blow this place to kingdom
come. Why you're not?
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Home, that could happen.
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Correct, and then ba -boom.
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Ba -boom.
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Now, I'm not taking this lightly.
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That stove has got to be child -proof,
and it had to happen yesterday.
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I've seen plenty. Now comes the hard
part. I need to give you some homework.
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We've got to start thinking about the
land of redirection.
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What is the payoff for him jumping on
your back in the closet?
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Getting to the shelf.
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Getting to the shelf.
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So if we give him another way to get to
that shelf, problem over. For Debbie's
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homework, I want Debbie to be thinking
about the concept of redirection.
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Because we can say no, but we've got to
leave them someplace else. The next
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thing that we're going to work on is a
sense of ritualizing their lives.
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Eating is a ritual. In a perfect world,
part of that ritual would also be the
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play that comes before the meal.
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Debbie works long days. Because of that,
Boris and Igor accumulate energy as the
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day goes on. They have to release that
energy. It happens.
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So I want her to feed them meals during
the day and also to have a play session
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before that meal so they get some energy
out of them. Then they can rest. When
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she comes home, it should be, hey, how
you doing? Let's play and have a meal
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go to bed.
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Let's be as unbelievably safe as we can
be. The first thing that you can do is
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the child -proofing of the stove.
Because the idea of those guys doing
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that when you come home,
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The tragedy awaits you is it's really
not cool.
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I am putting her to the test.
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Everything's got to change in order for
there to be success in here. We've got a
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lot to do here to give you a sane life,
but I think we've got a good start.
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Thank you so much. Great to meet you.
Great to meet you, too. All right, we'll
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talk to you soon. Okay. Bye -bye. I feel
a little bit of pressure, but where
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there's a will, there's a way.
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It is trap day. I'm back at Ellen's
house. I was called in here by a woman
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her sons who are feeding a lot of cats
and the colony is completely out of
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control. And I'm ready to go. This is a
neighborhood problem. We're here to
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provide a neighborhood solution.
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Are you guys as excited as I am? Yeah.
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Thrilled. So our plan was very light
feeding last night with no goodies.
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And today we're hungry. Right.
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Okay. They're hungry.
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Ellen's done exactly what I asked her to
do. The key thing here was to stop
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feeding the cats about 24 to 36 hours
ago so they'd be hungry enough to get in
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those traps. Because if they're not
hungry, we don't catch cats.
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Okay, so the next stop here, we've got a
bunch of your neighbors who have come.
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We've got representatives from SNP LA
and Best Friends.
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And we're going to go out there and just
talk to everybody about what's going on
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here today, okay?
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Okay. All right, let's go on that side.
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All righty.
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Oh, cool.
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We've got a bunch of people here. Hey!
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This is a neighborhood thing, and that's
why I thought it was so important to
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call in people from the neighborhood so
that we could explain this all to them.
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We've got some serious A -rated trappers
here. We've got my friend Destiny,
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who's the cat initiative supervisor at
Best Friends of L .A. She's got some of
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her employees here with her. And these
guys have been on, I don't even know how
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many of these trapping expeditions.
They're experts, if there ever have been
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experts. Plus, I've got my friends here
from the Spay and Neuter Project of L
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.A. These guys do thousands and
thousands of cat and dog spays and
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every year, and they are all going to
explain this to Ellen and her neighbors.
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I'm going to let everybody start getting
work done around here. I know we've got
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information we can hand out, but at the
end of the day, this is a neighborhood
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issue. And in that respect, I just want
to thank you guys so much for showing
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the support that you are. Yes, and I
thank you for supporting me. Right on.
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All right, it's go time. We are setting
up the traps right now. Ellen is going
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to show us where to put these traps
down, and then we're going to go catch
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some cats.
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So one of the things that we want to do
with these traps is we'll go ahead and
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bait the back of the trap.
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This is where we want them to come.
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The plexi door, which is really great
because the cats think they can get all
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the way through.
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And then what we usually do is we start
it off covered just because then it
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doesn't look quite as scary as a big
metal cage.
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So what will happen is the cat will walk
through and then they hit the trigger
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and it closes.
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I can't tell you how awesome it is that
Tomahawk donated all of these traps to
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our PNR cause in Los Angeles.
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Let's go.
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Ellen is so leading the way. She's like,
get this done. Yeah, get this done.
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Let's maybe put one there.
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So we're aiming for it like in a perfect
world. How many are we looking for
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here? Seven.
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All right. Seven cats.
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We're going to put all of them down
here?
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No, I don't think we need to put all of
them down here. Three here?
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You will be one of them.
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There is nothing like going on a TNR
expedition to admit your own
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I mean, we are doing everything we know
how to do. I've got the best people here
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I could possibly get. And yet, we're
rolling the dice. We could get one cat.
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could get none. We could get ten.
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I swear to God, I heard a trap go off.
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I don't understand why it's not
happening.
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We're putting down traps all over the
place right now, and no, nothing.
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We're disappointed, for sure. A lot of
hard work that goes down the drain, and
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it's cats who don't get spayed or
neutered tonight.
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I'm going to go check, because I think I
just heard a snap.
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I'm going with you.
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Who's down there?
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One of our guys or no?
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That one gets ripped.
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And the cat tripped them all.
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What? He tripped all of them.
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But it couldn't have been a cat. And two
of them. So a little bit of an issue.
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We don't know.
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But in this driveway here, all three
traps were sprung. Having one trap
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by a cat is plausible.
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But all three?
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That was a human.
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So we're starting to think that maybe
somebody doesn't want us here.
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In this driveway here, all three traps
were sprung. We assumed we had the buy
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-in, but that is a deliberate snubbing.
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That is saying, I don't want you doing
this at my house. A lot of the locations
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that we go to, it's interesting because
especially if a large family lives
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there, it could be a family member who
is nervous about us coming because he
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doesn't believe that the cats will be
returned.
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It's very common to have people divided,
not just in the community, but in a
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household. Very complicated.
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I'm staying as long as it takes, yeah.
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00:25:08,490 --> 00:25:10,510
I just want everyone else to sort of
settle in.
451
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,100
What's happening is disappointing for
sure, but it's not going to stop our
452
00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:17,140
progress. We're going to continue moving
forward.
453
00:25:17,380 --> 00:25:22,000
We've set our traps in other places, and
hopefully it's game on right now.
454
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:23,360
It's going to be a long night.
455
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,839
You guys ready?
456
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:25,840
Settle in.
457
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,760
I could just hear a trap.
458
00:25:30,980 --> 00:25:31,980
You heard a trap?
459
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,320
Let's go.
460
00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:36,620
All right, let's hope for the best.
461
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,020
We got a cat trap. No!
462
00:25:46,540 --> 00:25:47,820
You really got one?
463
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,520
Everyone's coming out.
464
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,760
Hello, guys.
465
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,240
We got another one. We got two more over
here at Ellen's house.
466
00:26:02,620 --> 00:26:03,880
Four, baby. Four.
467
00:26:05,020 --> 00:26:06,360
I think it's a blondie.
468
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,100
The traps are going off. Now, all the
hard work.
469
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,200
All the groundwork that we've laid, all
the groundwork that Ellen has laid over
470
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,240
the years, you see it all coming
together with the sound of trap, trap,
471
00:26:18,580 --> 00:26:19,580
Yay.
472
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,640
Come on over.
473
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,160
Triage is open.
474
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,760
So,
475
00:26:37,460 --> 00:26:39,800
here's the official tally so far.
476
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,460
We've got seven cat traps right now, and
our guess at this point is there's
477
00:26:45,460 --> 00:26:50,040
more. You know, that's a great thing.
The cover is off, and we're starting to
478
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,380
figure out exactly how many we've got to
deal with here. But, hey, we're doing
479
00:26:53,380 --> 00:26:54,760
it. We're getting this done.
480
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,520
It's been great.
481
00:26:56,780 --> 00:27:00,200
It is a thrill to know there's support
out there.
482
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:02,660
Finally, finally, finally.
483
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,920
I've been doing this a long time.
484
00:27:08,140 --> 00:27:12,580
I just want to fix it. problem. And you
guys show up and it's like the answer to
485
00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:13,580
your prayers.
486
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,920
So what we'll do is we'll be back
tomorrow morning to pick everybody up.
487
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,920
great.
488
00:27:22,580 --> 00:27:24,480
We've got seven that are going in
tomorrow.
489
00:27:24,780 --> 00:27:26,000
We'll reconvene again.
490
00:27:26,260 --> 00:27:31,040
We've left you with a couple of traps
and try to finish up what got started
491
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,080
tonight. Good work.
492
00:27:41,420 --> 00:27:46,740
So I'm back here to see Debbie and the
Donskois of Doom, Boris and Igor. Man,
493
00:27:46,820 --> 00:27:51,800
these guys were a walking disaster area,
like the cat version of fighter monkeys
494
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,580
swinging from the chandeliers. And they
were jumping on Debbie's back. We had
495
00:27:55,580 --> 00:27:57,680
one of them jumping on the stove while
she was cooking.
496
00:27:57,900 --> 00:28:03,280
Look, all I wanted her to do was get
some rituals into place, some routine in
497
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,259
these cat's lives.
498
00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:07,880
And if she did it, I'm hoping I'm
walking in there in some order.
499
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,980
If not, it's Donskoy destruction all
day, every day. Let's find out.
500
00:28:15,380 --> 00:28:17,440
Jackson! How are you? Good to see you.
Good to see you.
501
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,840
And there's a boy.
502
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,820
Look, this time around I got somebody
out to greet me.
503
00:28:22,460 --> 00:28:23,460
Hello, mister.
504
00:28:23,980 --> 00:28:24,980
Hello.
505
00:28:25,420 --> 00:28:26,420
Hi.
506
00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:29,540
I am so excited to see the both of you
out and about.
507
00:28:30,060 --> 00:28:33,460
Both Boris and Igor are out and about.
Man, I want to take advantage of that.
508
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,860
Last time I was here, I didn't see
anybody for a couple of hours. These
509
00:28:36,860 --> 00:28:41,540
down for playing with me in the house,
and that's a huge shift from last time.
510
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,640
Anything break since last time I was
here?
511
00:28:56,010 --> 00:29:00,550
So I'm back at Debbie's house with her
and Boris and Igor. Man, these guys were
512
00:29:00,550 --> 00:29:04,930
ripping the place up any chance they
got. Hopefully, there's been a huge
513
00:29:04,930 --> 00:29:05,930
from last time.
514
00:29:06,090 --> 00:29:07,750
Anything break since last time I was
here?
515
00:29:11,670 --> 00:29:12,670
Nothing.
516
00:29:12,930 --> 00:29:16,410
What do you think? What is it? I think
it's the ritual play eat.
517
00:29:16,670 --> 00:29:17,830
So you've been ritualizing?
518
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:19,910
Religiously, if you will.
519
00:29:20,190 --> 00:29:24,450
Yep. Nobody ever does that, Debbie.
Religiously. Not on the first go. It is.
520
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,660
Made a huge difference. That's so cool.
Because of the routine, Boris and Igor
521
00:29:28,660 --> 00:29:32,680
are no longer breaking everything in the
house and driving her insane.
522
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,620
All right, let's take a look at what
you've been doing.
523
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,760
We are going to play some games, and
then we're going to have Din Din. And we
524
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,000
are starting a new routine.
525
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:45,240
We don't play for that long. I just get
them really involved, and then I let
526
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,200
them catch whatever I'm playing with.
And then I feed them, and then they give
527
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,640
themselves a bath, and they get in their
bed.
528
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:51,979
That's great.
529
00:29:51,980 --> 00:29:57,500
Here's the work in progress of the
ceiling cat tree complete with cats on
530
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,460
They'll lead up to the top of the closet
so they don't have to jump on me. Good
531
00:30:01,460 --> 00:30:03,640
boys. You guys are so smart.
532
00:30:04,420 --> 00:30:08,780
Brilliant. Brilliant. We got the crow's
nest in the closet, another one in the
533
00:30:08,780 --> 00:30:13,020
bathroom. At this point, we got Don's
toys with places to go, things to play
534
00:30:13,020 --> 00:30:17,080
with that have nothing to do with Debbie
or her shoulders. She can get ready in
535
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,620
the morning without having her clothes
shredded at the same time.
536
00:30:20,380 --> 00:30:21,840
We are going to make cat TV.
537
00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:23,619
Welcome in.
538
00:30:23,620 --> 00:30:24,620
There you go.
539
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,340
That's fantastic. Some great stuff
happening in there. I only gave a few
540
00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:32,840
of homework. She took care of all the
rest. Let's just explore since I'm here.
541
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,040
Oh, look what you did.
542
00:30:34,340 --> 00:30:35,340
Yeah. Nice.
543
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:41,520
Yeah. One of those small things that
means so much. This is just the baby
544
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,860
guards, right? The baby guards. And
because of this, we don't have to worry
545
00:30:43,860 --> 00:30:45,000
about putting caps on these.
546
00:30:45,710 --> 00:30:47,510
And that fish tank is something else.
547
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:49,750
Getting the betta fish was huge.
548
00:30:49,950 --> 00:30:52,750
And Boris, he was like, oh, my God.
549
00:30:52,970 --> 00:30:56,170
And then he stays there the whole time
I'm cooking. Look at that. Problem
550
00:30:56,170 --> 00:30:57,170
solved, man.
551
00:30:57,710 --> 00:31:02,570
One thing that I'm noticing here that we
can still do something about. We go
552
00:31:02,570 --> 00:31:07,150
from catch -free to sell, but we're
missing. We got that drop -off over
553
00:31:07,170 --> 00:31:08,149
So come over here.
554
00:31:08,150 --> 00:31:10,050
Debbie's done all the homework right.
555
00:31:10,510 --> 00:31:14,070
I'm just giving her tweaks just to make
things even better than they already are
556
00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:15,230
here. Do you have a ladder?
557
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:18,110
It's kind of a funky old ladder. Where
is it?
558
00:31:18,730 --> 00:31:20,850
It's out on the balcony. Cool. Oh, there
it is.
559
00:31:21,230 --> 00:31:22,950
Oh, my God. This is going to work
beautifully.
560
00:31:23,330 --> 00:31:27,730
You do not have to spend a bazillion
dollars to have your cats be happy on
561
00:31:27,730 --> 00:31:31,390
furniture. There's got to be something
in your house you can use. All we've got
562
00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:33,250
to do is catify it a little bit.
563
00:31:33,610 --> 00:31:36,450
Good to go. These cats are going to love
it. Now, let's see.
564
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,600
If we can entice your guys to jump up
onto an area like this.
565
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,020
Come on up, buddy.
566
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:43,780
Come on up, buddy.
567
00:31:44,660 --> 00:31:46,100
Look. Look.
568
00:31:50,340 --> 00:31:51,340
Here we come.
569
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,620
That's my boy. That's my boy.
570
00:31:54,860 --> 00:31:58,280
I would never have thought to use the
ladder that way. Never in 10 million
571
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,120
years. But now, I think it's brilliant.
572
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,460
We've taken care of most every
destructive problem that we've had in
573
00:32:07,290 --> 00:32:08,410
Anything else I can help with?
574
00:32:08,810 --> 00:32:13,830
Yeah. Igor likes water, but he's afraid
to get wet, and I didn't start bathing
575
00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:15,410
them when they were kittens like I
should.
576
00:32:15,730 --> 00:32:19,970
So that's why they get a little ring
around the collar, you know? Yes. And I
577
00:32:19,970 --> 00:32:24,090
chase them down with, like, baby wipes
and stuff. Now, I think Don's boys are
578
00:32:24,090 --> 00:32:27,070
the same as things they need baths,
something like once a week, right?
579
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:28,470
So they say. So they say.
580
00:32:28,890 --> 00:32:33,930
Whether you're Sphinx, Donskoy, or any
hairless cat, you create a lot more oil
581
00:32:33,930 --> 00:32:38,770
from your skin. And if your hairless cat
absolutely won't take that bath, you
582
00:32:38,770 --> 00:32:42,370
can try a fragrance -free baby wipe
because these guys can get skin
583
00:32:42,370 --> 00:32:46,670
just like that. You did a great job, and
you did really good by your cats. I
584
00:32:46,670 --> 00:32:49,510
passed the Jackson test. You did, man,
with fine colors. I don't even have to
585
00:32:49,510 --> 00:32:53,230
come back a third time. Debbie's a
perfect example of what happens when you
586
00:32:53,230 --> 00:32:57,020
listen and follow along with
suggestions. Yeah, I get it. Debbie has
587
00:32:57,020 --> 00:33:00,420
now. She knows how to utilize them. She
knows how to look for trouble. If there
588
00:33:00,420 --> 00:33:03,760
is any trouble, she knows how to fix it,
but she's not going to need that
589
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,260
because the boys are fulfilled right
now.
590
00:33:05,740 --> 00:33:06,740
Mission accomplished.
591
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:07,819
Take care of yourself.
592
00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:11,440
Taking on all of Jackson's homework has
really impacted the quality of all three
593
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,800
of our lives pretty drastically. It's
not perfect yet, but these cats haven't
594
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,080
seen anything yet. I've still got a lot
of my fruit.
595
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,760
In my years of working with cats, I've
seen them contribute to our well -being
596
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,800
in multiple, unexpected, inspirational
ways. And now you can too.
597
00:33:29,020 --> 00:33:32,340
It's my pleasure to share some of their
stories with you. Welcome to A Little
598
00:33:32,340 --> 00:33:33,860
Slice of My Cat from Heaven.
599
00:33:35,860 --> 00:33:40,120
Animals can sense danger well before
humans can. Now Herbie is no different.
600
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,460
here on Staten Island to visit with
Herbie and his family after he saved a
601
00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:47,360
from dying. I just got to thank him.
602
00:33:47,740 --> 00:33:48,740
Hey!
603
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,760
Hi, Jackson. Thank you for coming.
604
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,120
My name is Janine. I'm a single mom to
two kids. I'm going into a master's
605
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,320
program, and I do a lot of cat
fostering. So, Janine, tell me about
606
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,740
Herbie was a cat from the Pets on Death
Roller.
607
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,220
I work with Staten Island Hope Rescue,
and they had asked me if I would foster
608
00:34:07,220 --> 00:34:08,420
him, and I said, sure.
609
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:12,520
And he just fit in right away. The one
thing I can tell you is that this cat is
610
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,620
so friendly.
611
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,500
It absolutely comes to you, rubs up
against you. You've got to think.
612
00:34:17,870 --> 00:34:22,370
that he was put in your path for a very
good reason. Yeah, so it was July of
613
00:34:22,370 --> 00:34:28,670
2014. I was up all night. I was a new
mom. I had two kids. I was in school.
614
00:34:28,949 --> 00:34:32,050
I was so tired I just wanted to go to
sleep. But then...
615
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,659
Herbie was jumping on my bed and jumping
off and running to the door. And I was
616
00:34:35,659 --> 00:34:39,040
so tired. I was like, all right, he's
just being a cat. But something said
617
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,080
is not his personality. There's
something wrong.
618
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,760
So I followed him, and he led me to my
daughter's room.
619
00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:48,920
And when I opened up the door, he jumped
into her crib. And she had had her
620
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,920
little blank.
621
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,300
And she must have rolled over, and it
went onto her face. And she was making
622
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,699
these, like, smothering noises, like she
couldn't breathe.
623
00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:04,930
He jumped into her crib and he was
pouring at the blanket.
624
00:35:05,150 --> 00:35:08,750
He saved my daughter.
625
00:35:10,410 --> 00:35:11,590
That's incredible.
626
00:35:12,350 --> 00:35:17,690
Every cat that's come into my life,
there has been one moment where you go,
627
00:35:17,950 --> 00:35:19,570
this is why you're here.
628
00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:22,790
And I knew at that point, I was like,
enough, he's my family.
629
00:35:23,010 --> 00:35:24,010
You just earned it.
630
00:35:25,050 --> 00:35:29,010
Meeting Herbie today is fantastic in so
many ways. He saved a little girl's
631
00:35:29,010 --> 00:35:30,470
life. Hi, Isabella.
632
00:35:30,750 --> 00:35:31,750
Hi, Herbie.
633
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,480
And they saved his life. This cat was
about to be killed in a shelter. He
634
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,680
wouldn't have had the chance to save
these lives. This is this life -saving
635
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,960
cycle right in front of me.
636
00:35:42,740 --> 00:35:47,520
Herbie looks like one big ball of
perfect cat, but is there anything that
637
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,178
might need?
638
00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:52,280
When I started fostering him and he came
to the house, he started to pee and
639
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,280
poop in the tub.
640
00:35:53,550 --> 00:35:56,570
At first I thought it was just, oh, he
didn't like the cats, it's a new home,
641
00:35:56,830 --> 00:35:57,830
but it's two years.
642
00:35:58,010 --> 00:36:02,850
Does he use the litter box at all? He
does. He just prefers to use the tub as
643
00:36:02,850 --> 00:36:08,250
toilet. When I see cats that go into the
bathtub, a lot of times it's sensitive
644
00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:12,550
paws. And when they go to step in a
litter box, it's those little pellets
645
00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:17,650
really, really hurt them. The really
kind of sand -like litters, that I would
646
00:36:17,650 --> 00:36:18,650
definitely try.
647
00:36:18,750 --> 00:36:23,550
Herbie is very sensitive and in tune
with my family, but he also may be very
648
00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:24,750
sensitive physically.
649
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:29,490
So I'm going to use the litter that's
better for Herbie's sensitive cause.
650
00:36:29,770 --> 00:36:32,730
Thank you so much for having me. I'm so
glad you were able to meet him. Having
651
00:36:32,730 --> 00:36:38,270
Jackson in my home, it's just very
validating that Jackson knows that
652
00:36:38,270 --> 00:36:40,330
really is the hero. Bye -bye. Bye,
Jackson.
653
00:36:41,290 --> 00:36:44,630
Go and save an animal because chances
are they may save you.
654
00:36:53,130 --> 00:36:56,790
All right, I'm heading back to Ellen's
feral colony for my last visit with her.
655
00:36:56,850 --> 00:36:58,930
Now, we have had tremendous success
here.
656
00:36:59,170 --> 00:37:03,530
Seven cats the first night, but we had
some serious unfinished business. I
657
00:37:03,530 --> 00:37:07,050
that one of the cats that was trapped
was a tame kitten that I was able to
658
00:37:07,050 --> 00:37:08,330
up the last time I was here.
659
00:37:08,530 --> 00:37:12,150
Cats tame enough that apparently they've
named him Blondie and one of Ellen's
660
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:13,830
neighbors wants to adopt him, maybe.
661
00:37:14,050 --> 00:37:18,050
Now, I have no idea how this is going to
turn out in terms of making these cats
662
00:37:18,050 --> 00:37:19,370
into domestic indoor companions.
663
00:37:20,170 --> 00:37:22,630
But I do want to check in with Ellen's
neighbor to see how it's going.
664
00:37:24,910 --> 00:37:30,210
Okay. I can't tell you how excited I am
to see this little boy.
665
00:37:30,910 --> 00:37:35,830
The first night I was here, I met
Blondie in the street. And at the time,
666
00:37:35,830 --> 00:37:40,270
the most mortifying thought to me that I
don't know what to do with him. I
667
00:37:40,270 --> 00:37:44,330
wasn't expecting a tame cat while I'm
out here scouting for ferals. If the cat
668
00:37:44,330 --> 00:37:45,910
is tame, he should be in a home.
669
00:37:46,430 --> 00:37:47,830
Hello, my little boy.
670
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:51,010
I couldn't stop thinking about him. Hi.
671
00:37:52,210 --> 00:37:53,950
Is he at this point your cat?
672
00:37:55,470 --> 00:38:00,470
Absolutely, 100%. Fantastic. I'm really
glad that you made the commitment to
673
00:38:00,470 --> 00:38:04,870
actually adopt him because there's that
line where you say, are you feral or are
674
00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:06,630
you mine? And you said you're mine.
675
00:38:06,930 --> 00:38:13,590
And how could you say no? I couldn't be
more happy. Seeing Blondie again
676
00:38:13,590 --> 00:38:17,930
in the context of being in someone's
life as their cat.
677
00:38:18,490 --> 00:38:19,710
is an amazing feeling.
678
00:38:19,970 --> 00:38:24,730
I mean, to know that he's going to be
safe means more to me than anybody could
679
00:38:24,730 --> 00:38:29,250
ever know. I can sleep at night. I know
he's got a home. You're his adopted dad.
680
00:38:30,050 --> 00:38:33,750
Yay. Okay. Thank you so much for that,
man. Thank you for taking this boy off
681
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:37,030
the street. Yeah. All right. You take
care, man. Yeah, take care. Bye.
682
00:38:37,770 --> 00:38:41,210
All right, I'm on my way back to Ellen's
house, and since the last time I
683
00:38:41,210 --> 00:38:45,230
checked in, we're still trapping cats in
this neighborhood because the job's not
684
00:38:45,230 --> 00:38:47,790
done yet. But there's still feral cats
out here.
685
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,000
If we're not trapped and neutered, that
means that they're just making more cats
686
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,640
than all of us just for nothing. Look,
there is no 75 % effort here. We're not
687
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,340
stopping until we're done. So now what's
our grand total right now? How many
688
00:39:00,340 --> 00:39:01,340
cats do we have?
689
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,000
Hello. Hello, ma 'am.
690
00:39:14,250 --> 00:39:18,550
Since last I checked in, we're still
trapping in this neighborhood because
691
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:21,930
job's not done. We're not done until
we're sure we got everybody.
692
00:39:22,290 --> 00:39:24,590
So now what's our grand total right now?
How many cats have you caught?
693
00:39:26,130 --> 00:39:27,130
What?
694
00:39:27,950 --> 00:39:29,170
Fifteen. Fifteen.
695
00:39:29,890 --> 00:39:30,890
That's amazing.
696
00:39:31,130 --> 00:39:32,290
That is so cool.
697
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:35,490
Since Jackson was here last time, we've
had eight more cats.
698
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:36,750
It's been a ride.
699
00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:38,950
It's been great. It's really been great.
700
00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:43,990
When I met you, you had... These cats,
you had the fact that you were tired.
701
00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:46,970
had been trying to do this by yourself
all these years. Do you feel like that's
702
00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:47,709
better now?
703
00:39:47,710 --> 00:39:48,629
Yes, I do.
704
00:39:48,630 --> 00:39:52,510
Thanks to you. I got to say, you look
relieved.
705
00:39:52,970 --> 00:39:53,669
I am.
706
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:59,170
I am. I felt like, you know, I was alone
on the ship, but you helped me a lot. I
707
00:39:59,170 --> 00:40:04,030
mean, as far as I'm concerned, in terms
of helping this community's cats shrink,
708
00:40:04,270 --> 00:40:07,730
I think we did it. We did it. We did it.
And it just takes people who care about
709
00:40:07,730 --> 00:40:08,730
animals like you do.
710
00:40:08,850 --> 00:40:09,850
And you're...
711
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,500
Your care for these animals is
inspiring, and I hope people understand
712
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,680
Thank you so much.
713
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:17,260
Yeah. Well, that's it for me.
714
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,260
And if you need anything in the future,
hopefully you've got a network here.
715
00:40:22,380 --> 00:40:24,840
Please involve me. I want to be able to
be a resource for you, okay?
716
00:40:25,060 --> 00:40:26,900
Okay. All right, cool. Thank you so
much.
717
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:32,700
The first time I came here, Ellen was
literally up to her neck in feral cats,
718
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,620
and now she doesn't have to live in
constant stress.
719
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,160
But these cats don't have to either.
720
00:40:38,780 --> 00:40:42,740
We had about 30 cats out there. We
trapped and neutered over half of them.
721
00:40:42,740 --> 00:40:43,740
call that a huge win.
722
00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:50,940
We have a long way to go to make sure
that every feral cat has an acceptable
723
00:40:50,940 --> 00:40:55,000
life and that they stop reproducing. But
it's days like this where I can look
724
00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,320
around and say, yeah, man, we did our
part. And doing your part, it's all it
725
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,320
takes.
726
00:41:06,890 --> 00:41:10,430
The hell isn't over yet. Go to the My
Cap From Hell Facebook page for
727
00:41:10,430 --> 00:41:12,650
Microsoft's gifts and much more.
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