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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,540 --> 00:00:04,940 My two Don's boys are crazy pants. 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,640 I'm starting to be a nervous wreck. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,680 We just broke it last week. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,560 Igor thinks I'm a human ladder. 5 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:13,100 Oh, Igor. 6 00:00:13,180 --> 00:00:14,500 I'm not relaxed when I cook. 7 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:15,780 He sits right on the stove. 8 00:00:16,140 --> 00:00:18,300 Whoa, that's a disaster waiting to happen. 9 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,260 I just fell into feeding the hen. And then all of a sudden, it was like 30. 10 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,840 If you feed them and you don't fix them, you are breeding. 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:28,680 It is kind of an issue. 12 00:00:29,020 --> 00:00:31,620 You're dealing with a community that is pretty close to the end of their rope 13 00:00:31,620 --> 00:00:34,400 here. It's go time. We are setting up the trap. 14 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,640 He tripped all of them. 15 00:00:36,300 --> 00:00:39,060 We're starting to think that maybe somebody doesn't want us here. 16 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,480 I don't want to leave him here, but I got no place to put him. His life is 17 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:48,220 to be a short one. It's a distressing reality. This breaks my heart. 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,140 I'm Jack in the Galaxy. I am Cat. 19 00:00:52,540 --> 00:00:53,620 The animal behavior. 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,440 Wow. The guardian's call. 21 00:00:55,780 --> 00:00:57,460 And they're dealing with a difficult cat. 22 00:00:59,100 --> 00:01:00,300 Wow, he really got you. 23 00:01:01,390 --> 00:01:05,850 I'm out to prove that there is no such thing as a bad cat. Just a cat that 24 00:01:05,850 --> 00:01:07,190 my help. You did it. 25 00:01:08,210 --> 00:01:08,670 My 26 00:01:08,670 --> 00:01:24,550 name's 27 00:01:24,550 --> 00:01:25,790 Steven. My name's Ellen. 28 00:01:26,030 --> 00:01:27,030 My name's Dylan. 29 00:01:27,350 --> 00:01:31,760 And... A neighbor was feeding cats, and I thought, that's so nice of her. 30 00:01:32,020 --> 00:01:34,680 And one day she said to me, I'm moving. 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,580 I didn't even give it too much thought, and I just started feeding cats. 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,200 Here, here's some chicken. 33 00:01:39,420 --> 00:01:41,960 The minute you start feeding a cat, they're yours. 34 00:01:46,340 --> 00:01:50,340 I'm a cat lover myself. We want to help them, but it keeps growing. 35 00:01:50,780 --> 00:01:52,000 This is a mom cat right here. 36 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,620 She's had about three or four litters already. 37 00:01:56,010 --> 00:01:57,750 Do I feel like a crazy cat lady? 38 00:01:58,390 --> 00:02:03,310 Probably from the outside looking in, but I don't feel like a crazy cat lady. 39 00:02:03,310 --> 00:02:05,110 do it because I feel like it's my job. 40 00:02:05,370 --> 00:02:07,590 There's a lot of stigma having a cat colony. 41 00:02:08,110 --> 00:02:11,590 My neighbors go crazy because there's so many cats. 42 00:02:11,890 --> 00:02:16,430 I worry about mom because the responsibility she takes can sometimes 43 00:02:16,430 --> 00:02:19,810 emotional. You know, it's sad. They don't have a home. This is magic. 44 00:02:20,090 --> 00:02:21,090 That's brother. 45 00:02:21,110 --> 00:02:22,110 That's Sam. 46 00:02:22,490 --> 00:02:23,490 That's Frankie. 47 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,500 I am feeling overwhelmed, but I wouldn't stop helping cats because they're my 48 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:29,960 responsibility. I took them on. 49 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,600 Every morning, my mother wakes up early. 50 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,400 I'm going to feed a lot of cats. 51 00:02:35,060 --> 00:02:39,000 And when she comes home from work, she needs to feed the cats late at night. So 52 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,820 I like to help her. It smells delicious, doesn't it? If I'm not around, I feel 53 00:02:43,820 --> 00:02:45,980 bad because it has so many trays. 54 00:02:46,740 --> 00:02:51,440 It's heartbreaking for me because they keep multiplying. 55 00:02:52,190 --> 00:02:54,650 And I can't get a handle on it. This is the other mom cat. 56 00:02:55,930 --> 00:03:00,290 I'm asking for Jackson's help now because if he can help me get any of 57 00:03:00,290 --> 00:03:02,070 adopted, it would be wonderful. 58 00:03:03,850 --> 00:03:07,030 Figuring out a solution with Jackson helping us, that would be awesome. 59 00:03:08,290 --> 00:03:10,250 And we need all the help we can get. 60 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,020 Today I'm dealing with a feral colony in Southern California. 61 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,140 Feral cats, they're not just stray cats. 62 00:03:17,420 --> 00:03:21,760 They have been born out on the street. They have no social contact with humans. 63 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,520 They are feral, which is to say that they're not pets. 64 00:03:24,820 --> 00:03:27,840 They're meant to be out here, not in your house. 65 00:03:28,100 --> 00:03:32,900 I'm scoping out the neighborhood before I go in to meet the family so I know 66 00:03:32,900 --> 00:03:33,900 what I'm looking for. 67 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,160 Hi. 68 00:03:36,020 --> 00:03:37,020 How you doing? 69 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,950 This feral cat... all over the country. Now, what makes Southern California 70 00:03:41,950 --> 00:03:45,050 special is that there is no winter. It's always hot. 71 00:03:45,310 --> 00:03:48,970 Cats can go into heat when the weather conditions are right. And the weather 72 00:03:48,970 --> 00:03:52,250 condition is always right in Los Angeles, which means they're always 73 00:03:52,890 --> 00:03:58,330 Hi. It's estimated in the county of Los Angeles, there's over 2 million feral 74 00:03:58,330 --> 00:04:03,130 cats roaming around here. The only way that we can effectively manage feral 75 00:04:03,130 --> 00:04:07,070 communities is a system called Trap, Neuter, Return, TNR. 76 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:08,500 We trap these guys. 77 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,080 We neuter them. 78 00:04:11,620 --> 00:04:13,120 We put them back out here. 79 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,160 And so that way, they don't reproduce. 80 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:21,339 And just like that, this colony will be contained. It is by far the most humane 81 00:04:21,339 --> 00:04:23,120 approach. And that's what we're here for. 82 00:04:24,140 --> 00:04:26,320 Hey. Hey. How are you? Hi. 83 00:04:27,580 --> 00:04:28,640 How long have you lived here? 84 00:04:29,020 --> 00:04:34,420 25. 25 years? Yeah. Okay. And in that 25 years, when was the first time you 85 00:04:34,420 --> 00:04:36,710 realized you had... A feral cat issue. 86 00:04:36,970 --> 00:04:40,330 Well, here's the thing. The neighbor was taking care of these cats. 87 00:04:40,590 --> 00:04:44,370 And then she told me she was moving. And I just sort of naturally fell into 88 00:04:44,370 --> 00:04:45,309 feeding the cats. 89 00:04:45,310 --> 00:04:47,210 Yeah. Do you remember how many that you were dealing with? 90 00:04:47,430 --> 00:04:48,430 Say 10. 91 00:04:48,510 --> 00:04:53,010 Okay. And then all of a sudden, within, you know, just recently, it was like 30. 92 00:04:53,990 --> 00:04:54,990 Recently? Yeah. 93 00:04:55,570 --> 00:04:57,230 It was just overwhelming. 94 00:04:57,530 --> 00:05:00,390 I can't get a handle on it. I totally hear you. 95 00:05:00,810 --> 00:05:03,970 If you spend enough time around the cat rescue community like I do, you see 96 00:05:03,970 --> 00:05:06,710 people like Ellen and her sons, and you just recognize them immediately. 97 00:05:06,990 --> 00:05:10,790 They're people with huge hearts who just care about the cats. But in this case, 98 00:05:10,890 --> 00:05:14,610 the size of that colony has just gotten out of control, and we've got to step in 99 00:05:14,610 --> 00:05:18,110 right now before it gets any bigger. These guys just need a little bit of 100 00:05:18,110 --> 00:05:19,110 direction, hopefully. 101 00:05:19,250 --> 00:05:23,010 When your neighbor was like, I'm out of here, I'm moving, had you any history 102 00:05:23,010 --> 00:05:24,010 with trapping? 103 00:05:24,550 --> 00:05:27,890 I rented five traps one time. I got one cat. 104 00:05:28,270 --> 00:05:29,750 So you put out traps. 105 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,660 and these guys just won't go in. 106 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,980 Right. Okay. Do you have neighbors who are not so happy about the TNR efforts? 107 00:05:37,060 --> 00:05:40,880 See, I don't know. A lot of the neighbors feed the cats, but I have had 108 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,800 with the neighbors before. Yes, the cats poop in everyone's yard. 109 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,060 They want me to take care of the problem. 110 00:05:47,660 --> 00:05:51,340 Every single thing falls on me. For the whole neighborhood. 111 00:05:52,260 --> 00:05:56,000 I can see the frustration written all over Ellen's face. She needs some help. 112 00:05:56,220 --> 00:05:58,420 It's very important for me. 113 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,940 to be a source of education for this entire neighborhood. 114 00:06:02,220 --> 00:06:06,920 We are presenting a humane solution, and hopefully the entire neighborhood is 115 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,940 going to jump behind it because we have no chance of success here unless we have 116 00:06:10,940 --> 00:06:11,940 community buy -in. 117 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,560 The best thing that we can do is get a lay of the land here, where you guys 118 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,140 feed, where these guys congregate, so I just have a good picture in my head. So 119 00:06:19,140 --> 00:06:22,160 if you want to just lead me around, that would be great. Go for it. Go. 120 00:06:31,010 --> 00:06:32,910 There's feeding stations all over here. 121 00:06:33,210 --> 00:06:35,570 I don't like the fact that they're out in the open. 122 00:06:35,850 --> 00:06:39,230 I don't like the fact that there's so many of them, because in terms of 123 00:06:39,230 --> 00:06:42,310 everybody, having them right outside your window is the best place, because 124 00:06:42,310 --> 00:06:46,030 the trap goes off, you'll be right there. So what I would love to start 125 00:06:46,150 --> 00:06:49,830 especially with the across -the -street cats, let's start getting them over here 126 00:06:49,830 --> 00:06:52,590 into one basic feeding station. 127 00:06:52,810 --> 00:06:53,810 Okay. 128 00:06:54,860 --> 00:06:57,960 Tonight, I'm just going to come out here around feeding time with Ellen, watch 129 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,700 how she does it, because I want to see what makes up this colony. 130 00:07:00,980 --> 00:07:04,960 I also want to talk to a few neighbors today to talk about their experience 131 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,140 the ferals. What's your name? Oh, Krista. Krista, great to meet you. I got 132 00:07:09,140 --> 00:07:13,260 of experience trapping, so we're really hoping to at least start to get a handle 133 00:07:13,260 --> 00:07:17,140 on things. It is kind of a nuisance. We don't want 40 cats roaming our 134 00:07:17,140 --> 00:07:21,120 neighborhood. If we keep getting three litters of kittens in my backyard every 135 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,120 year. 136 00:07:22,170 --> 00:07:26,110 I don't want 12 cats living in my backyard. I have small children. We want 137 00:07:26,110 --> 00:07:27,510 population to decrease. 138 00:07:28,210 --> 00:07:34,030 I come across one of Helen's neighbors who feeds these cats as pests, 139 00:07:34,310 --> 00:07:37,130 You know you're dealing with a community that is pretty close to the end of 140 00:07:37,130 --> 00:07:42,750 their rope here. The second you get a colony Tienard, the numbers go down. 141 00:07:43,010 --> 00:07:47,710 I'm just concerned about the people who like to still feed them because they 142 00:07:47,710 --> 00:07:49,630 enjoy the company of the cat. 143 00:07:50,140 --> 00:07:53,740 Which we know is just going to make the population grow. Right. People think 144 00:07:53,740 --> 00:07:56,380 that they're being kind by feeding the feral cats. 145 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,060 But if you feed them and you don't fix them, you are breeding. 146 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,980 You know that whole thing, it takes a village? We need complete community buy 147 00:08:04,980 --> 00:08:09,420 -in or we don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of containing the 148 00:08:19,070 --> 00:08:20,510 Man, it is pat o 'clock. 149 00:08:21,290 --> 00:08:24,350 Once we're done feeding, I'm just going to spend the rest of my time walking 150 00:08:24,350 --> 00:08:26,330 around and getting a lay of the land. Okay, here we go. 151 00:08:27,690 --> 00:08:32,030 Tonight, what I'm hoping to do is I want to see where she puts food. I want to 152 00:08:32,030 --> 00:08:36,250 know when and where I'm going to stand the best chance of success when it comes 153 00:08:36,250 --> 00:08:38,470 to traffic. So that's what tonight's recon's all about. 154 00:08:39,130 --> 00:08:43,650 All right, I'm going to let you go back in. I'm going to go off on my own and do 155 00:08:43,650 --> 00:08:45,010 some recon around here. 156 00:08:45,330 --> 00:08:46,810 I'd love you to do it. Thank you. 157 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Okay, see you in a minute. 158 00:08:55,340 --> 00:08:58,280 So I want to get a feel for how many cats we have out here, but at the same 159 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,600 time, I want to get a feel for how many kittens we have that are tame enough to 160 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,500 be adopted, because really, feral kittens only have a very short window of 161 00:09:05,500 --> 00:09:09,880 socialization. After a few months, by and large, they become too wild to be in 162 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,160 household. And that life that they're going to have outside is a lot shorter 163 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,580 than the life they would have had inside. It's a distressing reality. 164 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:16,920 Come on back over. 165 00:09:17,230 --> 00:09:20,770 Man, if I can touch these guys, that means we might even be able to not have 166 00:09:20,770 --> 00:09:21,770 trap you. 167 00:09:23,630 --> 00:09:26,090 You, I can pretty much take, I think. 168 00:09:27,770 --> 00:09:28,770 You think so? 169 00:09:30,110 --> 00:09:31,110 My love. 170 00:09:31,230 --> 00:09:32,230 My love. 171 00:09:33,290 --> 00:09:34,810 I know. There you go. 172 00:09:36,170 --> 00:09:37,990 Wow. Let me see that. 173 00:09:39,470 --> 00:09:41,330 Half of me wants to take this guy with me. 174 00:09:41,770 --> 00:09:45,150 He's right in between came and not. 175 00:09:46,140 --> 00:09:49,000 Ah, this breaks my heart a little bit. Like, I don't want to leave him here, 176 00:09:49,100 --> 00:09:55,420 but... I got no place to put him. 177 00:09:56,560 --> 00:10:00,480 It's a rare thing to come up across a six, seven, eight -month -old kitten on 178 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,740 the streets who's feral, who is actually tame and can go home with somebody and 179 00:10:04,740 --> 00:10:08,360 isn't in a home from somebody. And what these guys have to realize, this is a 180 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,279 ticking clock. 181 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,960 They are soon going to be adults who are unadoptable, and they are going to live 182 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,400 a very short life on these streets. 183 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,260 I mean, you've got to figure if you get them once, you're going to get them 184 00:10:18,260 --> 00:10:19,260 again. 185 00:10:20,340 --> 00:10:23,500 And the last place I want to check out is straight down this way. 186 00:10:24,820 --> 00:10:25,820 Hi, babies. 187 00:10:26,180 --> 00:10:27,180 Hi. 188 00:10:28,900 --> 00:10:30,180 And these are all the kittens. 189 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:34,560 And we already found out that one of them is this close to tame. 190 00:10:35,580 --> 00:10:37,100 There's a lot of cats out here. 191 00:10:41,460 --> 00:10:42,460 Hey. 192 00:10:42,670 --> 00:10:44,510 I think I saw a lot of the guys you're dealing with. 193 00:10:44,790 --> 00:10:47,870 Let's sit down and I will give you your homework. 194 00:10:48,210 --> 00:10:49,210 All right. 195 00:10:49,650 --> 00:10:53,810 So there's part of this homework that's going to be very easy for you guys and 196 00:10:53,810 --> 00:10:55,050 part that's going to be hard. 197 00:10:55,510 --> 00:10:58,190 The easy part is consolidating the feeding station. 198 00:10:58,470 --> 00:11:02,730 So I'd like you to get, I'd say, two feeding stations left. 199 00:11:03,010 --> 00:11:07,050 What we're getting to the point where we can do is stage our first sort of mega 200 00:11:07,050 --> 00:11:11,250 trap. The second thing I'm going to have you do, here's the hard part, is start 201 00:11:11,250 --> 00:11:12,250 talking to the neighbors. 202 00:11:12,430 --> 00:11:16,290 Okay, because we all have to be on the same page at the very least 48 hours 203 00:11:16,290 --> 00:11:19,770 before nobody else feeds. Then we can trap. Otherwise, we don't have a chance. 204 00:11:19,990 --> 00:11:24,930 The cats have to be fed in one place and one place only. Okay. So let's just 205 00:11:24,930 --> 00:11:25,930 start there. 206 00:11:27,750 --> 00:11:29,990 Oh, good. I'm glad you're happy at least. 207 00:11:30,470 --> 00:11:34,370 I'm glad you're happy at least because I'm telling you these things and I know 208 00:11:34,370 --> 00:11:35,370 that it's a lot of weight. 209 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:39,520 There's a lot of work to be done here. Ellen has to go around her neighborhood, 210 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:43,660 let her neighbors know what she's doing. It's really important to get community 211 00:11:43,660 --> 00:11:46,620 buy -in, and it's on Ellen to get that ball rolling. 212 00:11:46,900 --> 00:11:47,900 Have a good one. 213 00:11:47,940 --> 00:11:48,940 All right. 214 00:11:54,900 --> 00:11:55,900 I'm Debbie. 215 00:11:56,060 --> 00:11:57,920 And we are in Marina del Rey, California. 216 00:11:58,220 --> 00:12:01,460 And I have two Don's boys, which are Russian hairless cats. 217 00:12:01,740 --> 00:12:05,420 Boris is two years old, and Igor is a year and a half. And they are insane. 218 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:12,480 Living with Boris and Igor is like living with two toddler chimpanzees with 219 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:13,480 razor -sharp claws. 220 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,360 It is constant chaos. 221 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:18,120 Oh, Igor. 222 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,120 They knock over all of my Day of the Dead stuff. Can't think it's the 223 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,120 thing ever. 224 00:12:24,060 --> 00:12:28,060 My bathroom is one of the hot zones. If I do not keep the door shut, all hell 225 00:12:28,060 --> 00:12:29,060 will break loose. 226 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,260 They make it nearly impossible to do anything. 227 00:12:32,500 --> 00:12:35,440 Boris, come out of there, please. Cooking is one of my favorite things to 228 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,760 and it is now one of the most stressful things that I do. 229 00:12:39,900 --> 00:12:41,440 Now I've got to clean up this disaster. 230 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:44,180 Enough is enough. Jackson, please come and help us. 231 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,780 I'm starting to be a nervous wreck. 232 00:12:46,220 --> 00:12:47,440 Oh. Hey. 233 00:12:49,150 --> 00:12:53,590 I'm about to meet Debbie and her two cats. Now, Igor and Boris are dance 234 00:12:53,650 --> 00:12:57,130 Very energetic, kind of trouble -seeking, and that's exactly what I'm 235 00:12:57,130 --> 00:13:01,130 into here. I got Debbie at the end of her rope, and I got two cats swinging 236 00:13:01,130 --> 00:13:03,110 the end of that rope. Let's see what I can do about it. 237 00:13:06,550 --> 00:13:09,470 Hello. How are you? I'm Jackson. So nice to meet you, Debbie. 238 00:13:09,710 --> 00:13:10,710 Debbie, good to see you. 239 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,580 Have a seat. I was expecting to be completely accosted by crazy cats. 240 00:13:17,780 --> 00:13:21,020 They've gotten shy now, and they're hanging out in the closet at the moment. 241 00:13:21,020 --> 00:13:23,980 the closet. They're not really hiding. They're just on their top little shelf 242 00:13:23,980 --> 00:13:27,600 there. Well, we'll go say hi to them and everything. So what differentiates a 243 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:28,620 Donskoy from a Sphinx? 244 00:13:29,060 --> 00:13:31,680 Donskoy, the hairless trait, is dominant. 245 00:13:32,350 --> 00:13:35,090 So they don't have as many health issues as Sphinx do. 246 00:13:35,410 --> 00:13:38,210 Their one kind of weak spot is they're prone to gingivitis. 247 00:13:38,570 --> 00:13:41,070 That's the worst? Yeah. Yeah, that's the bad. 248 00:13:41,290 --> 00:13:45,130 They're highly intelligent. They're both smarter than what I call a hair cat. 249 00:13:45,350 --> 00:13:50,670 I got Boris from a Ukrainian breeder, but I could not bear the fact that Boris 250 00:13:50,670 --> 00:13:51,569 would be by himself. 251 00:13:51,570 --> 00:13:55,690 So I decided to get Boris his own kitten. From the moment Igor arrived, 252 00:13:55,690 --> 00:13:56,930 been constant chaos. 253 00:13:57,790 --> 00:14:01,310 Fill me in. What's going on? My two Donskoy's are... 254 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:02,560 They're crazy pants. 255 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,660 Wait, I'll write that down. That goes in the free description. 256 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,040 Crazy pants. They have what we call riots, where they just get the spins and 257 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,680 running around the apartment like lunatics with razor -sharp claws. 258 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,320 They get in my face when I'm cooking, Boris especially. 259 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,300 He sits on the stove next to a pressure cooker by making homemade chicken stock. 260 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,720 Right on the stove. He's also taking a flying leap at the oven when there's 261 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:25,720 something in there cooking. 262 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:31,040 Wow. Debbie's kitchen is a playground for cats. Debbie is literally and 263 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,040 figuratively playing with fire up there, man. What about if we were just sitting 264 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,380 here hanging out watching TV? 265 00:14:36,660 --> 00:14:38,560 I mean, Boris has an appetite for destruction. 266 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,200 What have they broken around here? Have they caused a lot of... Everything. 267 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:44,200 Welcome to his scratching post. 268 00:14:44,780 --> 00:14:46,440 Really, really beautiful. 269 00:14:46,700 --> 00:14:51,160 But, I mean, if I was him, I'd be like, game on. 270 00:14:51,610 --> 00:14:55,170 You know what I mean? That cabinet, game on. I mean, there's a lot of game on in 271 00:14:55,170 --> 00:14:55,729 this place. 272 00:14:55,730 --> 00:15:01,510 The entire house is this wonderful folk art playground for little energetic 273 00:15:01,510 --> 00:15:06,590 cats. Come on. If you already have cats that are Dennis the Menace incarnate, 274 00:15:06,610 --> 00:15:10,970 you put stuff like this out there and you are asking for it. How many hours a 275 00:15:10,970 --> 00:15:11,970 day are you away from the home? 276 00:15:12,070 --> 00:15:13,490 You know, on a good day, 10. 277 00:15:13,850 --> 00:15:16,610 On a day if I have to take clients out or I have an event. 278 00:15:17,210 --> 00:15:20,730 then I don't get home until, you know, 11 o 'clock at night. Yike. Debbie 279 00:15:20,730 --> 00:15:22,850 home as late as she does is a problem. 280 00:15:23,110 --> 00:15:26,970 Her being gone for 10 to 12 hours a day and then expecting these already 281 00:15:26,970 --> 00:15:31,370 energetic cats to just adhere to her schedule is completely unrealistic. 282 00:15:31,730 --> 00:15:35,750 It's like having two preschoolers at home. If you've left two preschoolers at 283 00:15:35,750 --> 00:15:40,510 home for 12 hours expecting when you come home for the place not to be 284 00:15:40,510 --> 00:15:42,230 destroyed, you'd be wrong. 285 00:15:42,530 --> 00:15:43,530 Well, what do you do? 286 00:15:43,750 --> 00:15:47,090 I'm executive producer for a music company that does music for commercials. 287 00:15:47,410 --> 00:15:49,670 Oh, right on. And I have taken them to the studio. 288 00:15:49,870 --> 00:15:53,190 Seriously? Mm -hmm. Are they good there? Yeah. That might be a lifesaver there. 289 00:15:53,350 --> 00:15:59,430 All right, let's get up, take a walk around here and see the kind of havoc 290 00:15:59,430 --> 00:16:01,530 Don's Boys are wreaking around here, okay? Yes. 291 00:16:04,270 --> 00:16:05,570 All right, into the bedroom. 292 00:16:05,890 --> 00:16:08,150 Yep. Oh, I see a Don's Boy nose. 293 00:16:08,410 --> 00:16:10,370 This is like the back -jumping zone. Igor. 294 00:16:10,990 --> 00:16:15,130 Thinks I'm a human ladder. And he does it primarily in the closet when I'm 295 00:16:15,130 --> 00:16:19,690 trying to pick out my clothes in the morning. And then I get a cat hanging 296 00:16:19,690 --> 00:16:21,210 my back every day. 297 00:16:22,630 --> 00:16:25,070 They are tree dwellers. They like to be up high. 298 00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:28,310 And if you present that wonderful target... 299 00:16:29,199 --> 00:16:29,959 Bang, man. 300 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:35,140 Donkeys are firmly tree dwellers. I mean, they perch on the top of a door 301 00:16:35,140 --> 00:16:39,720 so I want Debbie to put up shelves that will lead to this final shelf where the 302 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,160 donkeys can be as gargoyly as they want to be, but they're not going to get in 303 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,900 their way at the same time. And that's something for us to work on. Yes. Okay, 304 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,700 great. I'm seeing some of your toys that are hanging out here. Go through this 305 00:16:49,700 --> 00:16:51,800 with me. Mm -hmm. And show me. 306 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,680 What has high value? There is one toy that they really, really, really, really 307 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,920 like. I have no more of them because they break it in a day or two. Now I'm 308 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:01,920 getting to know your cats. 309 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,359 If it breaks, it's high value. 310 00:17:04,619 --> 00:17:08,400 These guys destroy what they love. Right. You look at their toy basket and 311 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,260 just this mess of tangled nonsense. 312 00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:14,920 It's time to get down and dirty about this kind of thing and show Debbie that 313 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,680 the only way your cats are going to be satisfied is if they have toys that 314 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,880 actually work for them. Now, moving over to artwork here. 315 00:17:22,300 --> 00:17:26,579 This stuff is just begging for it. Oh, he utilizes it. He's knocked all this 316 00:17:26,579 --> 00:17:29,660 stuff over. And this guy has made it almost 20 years, and he just broke it 317 00:17:29,660 --> 00:17:31,240 week. Oh, man. 318 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:32,860 We have, I mean, this. 319 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,160 Oh, my God. 320 00:17:36,180 --> 00:17:39,440 I just became a dance guy. I'm so sorry. Channel Digor. 321 00:17:39,780 --> 00:17:42,700 Debbie's house is 90 % no zone. 322 00:17:42,940 --> 00:17:47,180 I knock stuff off the shelf. Everything is a no. There's got to be a yes behind 323 00:17:47,180 --> 00:17:49,340 every no, or nothing's going to work in this house. 324 00:17:49,820 --> 00:17:50,980 So I like to cook a lot. 325 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,980 Okay. The last time that I was making soup stock, Boris got on the stove. He 326 00:17:55,980 --> 00:17:57,860 turned on the burner with his foot. Whoa. 327 00:17:58,300 --> 00:18:00,600 That stove, that's a disaster waiting to happen. 328 00:18:07,980 --> 00:18:11,180 I'm in Marina Del Rey and I'm going through the house with Debbie. He turned 329 00:18:11,180 --> 00:18:14,920 the burner with his foot. Whoa. That stove is a total catastrophe. 330 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,680 He's going to blow this place to kingdom come. Why you're not? 331 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,360 Home, that could happen. 332 00:18:19,780 --> 00:18:20,820 Correct, and then ba -boom. 333 00:18:21,060 --> 00:18:21,759 Ba -boom. 334 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,120 Now, I'm not taking this lightly. 335 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,480 That stove has got to be child -proof, and it had to happen yesterday. 336 00:18:26,980 --> 00:18:31,420 I've seen plenty. Now comes the hard part. I need to give you some homework. 337 00:18:31,820 --> 00:18:34,040 We've got to start thinking about the land of redirection. 338 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,760 What is the payoff for him jumping on your back in the closet? 339 00:18:38,060 --> 00:18:39,060 Getting to the shelf. 340 00:18:39,140 --> 00:18:40,140 Getting to the shelf. 341 00:18:40,300 --> 00:18:44,080 So if we give him another way to get to that shelf, problem over. For Debbie's 342 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,980 homework, I want Debbie to be thinking about the concept of redirection. 343 00:18:47,290 --> 00:18:50,750 Because we can say no, but we've got to leave them someplace else. The next 344 00:18:50,750 --> 00:18:54,750 thing that we're going to work on is a sense of ritualizing their lives. 345 00:18:54,950 --> 00:19:00,090 Eating is a ritual. In a perfect world, part of that ritual would also be the 346 00:19:00,090 --> 00:19:02,210 play that comes before the meal. 347 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:07,060 Debbie works long days. Because of that, Boris and Igor accumulate energy as the 348 00:19:07,060 --> 00:19:09,200 day goes on. They have to release that energy. It happens. 349 00:19:09,420 --> 00:19:13,180 So I want her to feed them meals during the day and also to have a play session 350 00:19:13,180 --> 00:19:17,220 before that meal so they get some energy out of them. Then they can rest. When 351 00:19:17,220 --> 00:19:20,520 she comes home, it should be, hey, how you doing? Let's play and have a meal 352 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,299 go to bed. 353 00:19:21,300 --> 00:19:25,480 Let's be as unbelievably safe as we can be. The first thing that you can do is 354 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,360 the child -proofing of the stove. Because the idea of those guys doing 355 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:30,360 that when you come home, 356 00:19:31,140 --> 00:19:34,240 The tragedy awaits you is it's really not cool. 357 00:19:34,540 --> 00:19:36,260 I am putting her to the test. 358 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,840 Everything's got to change in order for there to be success in here. We've got a 359 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,740 lot to do here to give you a sane life, but I think we've got a good start. 360 00:19:44,980 --> 00:19:47,160 Thank you so much. Great to meet you. Great to meet you, too. All right, we'll 361 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,840 talk to you soon. Okay. Bye -bye. I feel a little bit of pressure, but where 362 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,220 there's a will, there's a way. 363 00:20:01,420 --> 00:20:06,140 It is trap day. I'm back at Ellen's house. I was called in here by a woman 364 00:20:06,140 --> 00:20:09,660 her sons who are feeding a lot of cats and the colony is completely out of 365 00:20:09,660 --> 00:20:13,840 control. And I'm ready to go. This is a neighborhood problem. We're here to 366 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:14,840 provide a neighborhood solution. 367 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,940 Are you guys as excited as I am? Yeah. 368 00:20:17,380 --> 00:20:21,920 Thrilled. So our plan was very light feeding last night with no goodies. 369 00:20:22,220 --> 00:20:24,220 And today we're hungry. Right. 370 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:25,399 Okay. They're hungry. 371 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,660 Ellen's done exactly what I asked her to do. The key thing here was to stop 372 00:20:28,660 --> 00:20:32,780 feeding the cats about 24 to 36 hours ago so they'd be hungry enough to get in 373 00:20:32,780 --> 00:20:35,540 those traps. Because if they're not hungry, we don't catch cats. 374 00:20:35,780 --> 00:20:39,820 Okay, so the next stop here, we've got a bunch of your neighbors who have come. 375 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,200 We've got representatives from SNP LA and Best Friends. 376 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,120 And we're going to go out there and just talk to everybody about what's going on 377 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:47,899 here today, okay? 378 00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:49,280 Okay. All right, let's go on that side. 379 00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:50,500 All righty. 380 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,760 Oh, cool. 381 00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:54,830 We've got a bunch of people here. Hey! 382 00:20:55,410 --> 00:20:58,370 This is a neighborhood thing, and that's why I thought it was so important to 383 00:20:58,370 --> 00:21:01,270 call in people from the neighborhood so that we could explain this all to them. 384 00:21:01,430 --> 00:21:04,790 We've got some serious A -rated trappers here. We've got my friend Destiny, 385 00:21:04,970 --> 00:21:08,510 who's the cat initiative supervisor at Best Friends of L .A. She's got some of 386 00:21:08,510 --> 00:21:12,170 her employees here with her. And these guys have been on, I don't even know how 387 00:21:12,170 --> 00:21:15,370 many of these trapping expeditions. They're experts, if there ever have been 388 00:21:15,370 --> 00:21:18,910 experts. Plus, I've got my friends here from the Spay and Neuter Project of L 389 00:21:18,910 --> 00:21:23,170 .A. These guys do thousands and thousands of cat and dog spays and 390 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,140 every year, and they are all going to explain this to Ellen and her neighbors. 391 00:21:27,540 --> 00:21:31,660 I'm going to let everybody start getting work done around here. I know we've got 392 00:21:31,660 --> 00:21:35,060 information we can hand out, but at the end of the day, this is a neighborhood 393 00:21:35,060 --> 00:21:38,600 issue. And in that respect, I just want to thank you guys so much for showing 394 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,120 the support that you are. Yes, and I thank you for supporting me. Right on. 395 00:21:44,340 --> 00:21:48,320 All right, it's go time. We are setting up the traps right now. Ellen is going 396 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,840 to show us where to put these traps down, and then we're going to go catch 397 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:52,840 some cats. 398 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,420 So one of the things that we want to do with these traps is we'll go ahead and 399 00:21:56,420 --> 00:21:57,520 bait the back of the trap. 400 00:21:58,100 --> 00:21:59,880 This is where we want them to come. 401 00:22:00,260 --> 00:22:04,140 The plexi door, which is really great because the cats think they can get all 402 00:22:04,140 --> 00:22:05,140 the way through. 403 00:22:05,340 --> 00:22:10,040 And then what we usually do is we start it off covered just because then it 404 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,160 doesn't look quite as scary as a big metal cage. 405 00:22:12,780 --> 00:22:16,120 So what will happen is the cat will walk through and then they hit the trigger 406 00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:17,120 and it closes. 407 00:22:17,550 --> 00:22:21,950 I can't tell you how awesome it is that Tomahawk donated all of these traps to 408 00:22:21,950 --> 00:22:23,510 our PNR cause in Los Angeles. 409 00:22:24,030 --> 00:22:25,030 Let's go. 410 00:22:26,110 --> 00:22:31,170 Ellen is so leading the way. She's like, get this done. Yeah, get this done. 411 00:22:31,970 --> 00:22:33,150 Let's maybe put one there. 412 00:22:34,050 --> 00:22:37,450 So we're aiming for it like in a perfect world. How many are we looking for 413 00:22:37,450 --> 00:22:38,450 here? Seven. 414 00:22:40,270 --> 00:22:41,350 All right. Seven cats. 415 00:22:41,910 --> 00:22:43,030 We're going to put all of them down here? 416 00:22:43,550 --> 00:22:45,270 No, I don't think we need to put all of them down here. Three here? 417 00:22:46,479 --> 00:22:47,700 You will be one of them. 418 00:22:48,980 --> 00:22:53,020 There is nothing like going on a TNR expedition to admit your own 419 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,820 I mean, we are doing everything we know how to do. I've got the best people here 420 00:22:56,820 --> 00:23:01,280 I could possibly get. And yet, we're rolling the dice. We could get one cat. 421 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,920 could get none. We could get ten. 422 00:23:05,260 --> 00:23:08,000 I swear to God, I heard a trap go off. 423 00:23:18,570 --> 00:23:20,530 I don't understand why it's not happening. 424 00:23:25,710 --> 00:23:30,150 We're putting down traps all over the place right now, and no, nothing. 425 00:23:31,150 --> 00:23:35,970 We're disappointed, for sure. A lot of hard work that goes down the drain, and 426 00:23:35,970 --> 00:23:37,670 it's cats who don't get spayed or neutered tonight. 427 00:23:39,870 --> 00:23:44,770 I'm going to go check, because I think I just heard a snap. 428 00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:45,990 I'm going with you. 429 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,160 Who's down there? 430 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,040 One of our guys or no? 431 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:58,800 That one gets ripped. 432 00:23:59,460 --> 00:24:00,520 And the cat tripped them all. 433 00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:02,740 What? He tripped all of them. 434 00:24:03,340 --> 00:24:08,320 But it couldn't have been a cat. And two of them. So a little bit of an issue. 435 00:24:08,580 --> 00:24:09,580 We don't know. 436 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,460 But in this driveway here, all three traps were sprung. Having one trap 437 00:24:15,460 --> 00:24:17,480 by a cat is plausible. 438 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,680 But all three? 439 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,240 That was a human. 440 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,580 So we're starting to think that maybe somebody doesn't want us here. 441 00:24:33,420 --> 00:24:39,580 In this driveway here, all three traps were sprung. We assumed we had the buy 442 00:24:39,580 --> 00:24:42,860 -in, but that is a deliberate snubbing. 443 00:24:43,310 --> 00:24:47,750 That is saying, I don't want you doing this at my house. A lot of the locations 444 00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:50,770 that we go to, it's interesting because especially if a large family lives 445 00:24:50,770 --> 00:24:54,990 there, it could be a family member who is nervous about us coming because he 446 00:24:54,990 --> 00:24:57,030 doesn't believe that the cats will be returned. 447 00:24:57,690 --> 00:25:01,490 It's very common to have people divided, not just in the community, but in a 448 00:25:01,490 --> 00:25:02,490 household. Very complicated. 449 00:25:05,930 --> 00:25:07,550 I'm staying as long as it takes, yeah. 450 00:25:08,490 --> 00:25:10,510 I just want everyone else to sort of settle in. 451 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,100 What's happening is disappointing for sure, but it's not going to stop our 452 00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:17,140 progress. We're going to continue moving forward. 453 00:25:17,380 --> 00:25:22,000 We've set our traps in other places, and hopefully it's game on right now. 454 00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:23,360 It's going to be a long night. 455 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,839 You guys ready? 456 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:25,840 Settle in. 457 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,760 I could just hear a trap. 458 00:25:30,980 --> 00:25:31,980 You heard a trap? 459 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,320 Let's go. 460 00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:36,620 All right, let's hope for the best. 461 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,020 We got a cat trap. No! 462 00:25:46,540 --> 00:25:47,820 You really got one? 463 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,520 Everyone's coming out. 464 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,760 Hello, guys. 465 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,240 We got another one. We got two more over here at Ellen's house. 466 00:26:02,620 --> 00:26:03,880 Four, baby. Four. 467 00:26:05,020 --> 00:26:06,360 I think it's a blondie. 468 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,100 The traps are going off. Now, all the hard work. 469 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,200 All the groundwork that we've laid, all the groundwork that Ellen has laid over 470 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,240 the years, you see it all coming together with the sound of trap, trap, 471 00:26:18,580 --> 00:26:19,580 Yay. 472 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,640 Come on over. 473 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,160 Triage is open. 474 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,760 So, 475 00:26:37,460 --> 00:26:39,800 here's the official tally so far. 476 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,460 We've got seven cat traps right now, and our guess at this point is there's 477 00:26:45,460 --> 00:26:50,040 more. You know, that's a great thing. The cover is off, and we're starting to 478 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,380 figure out exactly how many we've got to deal with here. But, hey, we're doing 479 00:26:53,380 --> 00:26:54,760 it. We're getting this done. 480 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,520 It's been great. 481 00:26:56,780 --> 00:27:00,200 It is a thrill to know there's support out there. 482 00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:02,660 Finally, finally, finally. 483 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,920 I've been doing this a long time. 484 00:27:08,140 --> 00:27:12,580 I just want to fix it. problem. And you guys show up and it's like the answer to 485 00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:13,580 your prayers. 486 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,920 So what we'll do is we'll be back tomorrow morning to pick everybody up. 487 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,920 great. 488 00:27:22,580 --> 00:27:24,480 We've got seven that are going in tomorrow. 489 00:27:24,780 --> 00:27:26,000 We'll reconvene again. 490 00:27:26,260 --> 00:27:31,040 We've left you with a couple of traps and try to finish up what got started 491 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,080 tonight. Good work. 492 00:27:41,420 --> 00:27:46,740 So I'm back here to see Debbie and the Donskois of Doom, Boris and Igor. Man, 493 00:27:46,820 --> 00:27:51,800 these guys were a walking disaster area, like the cat version of fighter monkeys 494 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,580 swinging from the chandeliers. And they were jumping on Debbie's back. We had 495 00:27:55,580 --> 00:27:57,680 one of them jumping on the stove while she was cooking. 496 00:27:57,900 --> 00:28:03,280 Look, all I wanted her to do was get some rituals into place, some routine in 497 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,259 these cat's lives. 498 00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:07,880 And if she did it, I'm hoping I'm walking in there in some order. 499 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,980 If not, it's Donskoy destruction all day, every day. Let's find out. 500 00:28:15,380 --> 00:28:17,440 Jackson! How are you? Good to see you. Good to see you. 501 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,840 And there's a boy. 502 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,820 Look, this time around I got somebody out to greet me. 503 00:28:22,460 --> 00:28:23,460 Hello, mister. 504 00:28:23,980 --> 00:28:24,980 Hello. 505 00:28:25,420 --> 00:28:26,420 Hi. 506 00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:29,540 I am so excited to see the both of you out and about. 507 00:28:30,060 --> 00:28:33,460 Both Boris and Igor are out and about. Man, I want to take advantage of that. 508 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,860 Last time I was here, I didn't see anybody for a couple of hours. These 509 00:28:36,860 --> 00:28:41,540 down for playing with me in the house, and that's a huge shift from last time. 510 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,640 Anything break since last time I was here? 511 00:28:56,010 --> 00:29:00,550 So I'm back at Debbie's house with her and Boris and Igor. Man, these guys were 512 00:29:00,550 --> 00:29:04,930 ripping the place up any chance they got. Hopefully, there's been a huge 513 00:29:04,930 --> 00:29:05,930 from last time. 514 00:29:06,090 --> 00:29:07,750 Anything break since last time I was here? 515 00:29:11,670 --> 00:29:12,670 Nothing. 516 00:29:12,930 --> 00:29:16,410 What do you think? What is it? I think it's the ritual play eat. 517 00:29:16,670 --> 00:29:17,830 So you've been ritualizing? 518 00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:19,910 Religiously, if you will. 519 00:29:20,190 --> 00:29:24,450 Yep. Nobody ever does that, Debbie. Religiously. Not on the first go. It is. 520 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,660 Made a huge difference. That's so cool. Because of the routine, Boris and Igor 521 00:29:28,660 --> 00:29:32,680 are no longer breaking everything in the house and driving her insane. 522 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,620 All right, let's take a look at what you've been doing. 523 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,760 We are going to play some games, and then we're going to have Din Din. And we 524 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,000 are starting a new routine. 525 00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:45,240 We don't play for that long. I just get them really involved, and then I let 526 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,200 them catch whatever I'm playing with. And then I feed them, and then they give 527 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,640 themselves a bath, and they get in their bed. 528 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:51,979 That's great. 529 00:29:51,980 --> 00:29:57,500 Here's the work in progress of the ceiling cat tree complete with cats on 530 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,460 They'll lead up to the top of the closet so they don't have to jump on me. Good 531 00:30:01,460 --> 00:30:03,640 boys. You guys are so smart. 532 00:30:04,420 --> 00:30:08,780 Brilliant. Brilliant. We got the crow's nest in the closet, another one in the 533 00:30:08,780 --> 00:30:13,020 bathroom. At this point, we got Don's toys with places to go, things to play 534 00:30:13,020 --> 00:30:17,080 with that have nothing to do with Debbie or her shoulders. She can get ready in 535 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,620 the morning without having her clothes shredded at the same time. 536 00:30:20,380 --> 00:30:21,840 We are going to make cat TV. 537 00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:23,619 Welcome in. 538 00:30:23,620 --> 00:30:24,620 There you go. 539 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,340 That's fantastic. Some great stuff happening in there. I only gave a few 540 00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:32,840 of homework. She took care of all the rest. Let's just explore since I'm here. 541 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,040 Oh, look what you did. 542 00:30:34,340 --> 00:30:35,340 Yeah. Nice. 543 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:41,520 Yeah. One of those small things that means so much. This is just the baby 544 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,860 guards, right? The baby guards. And because of this, we don't have to worry 545 00:30:43,860 --> 00:30:45,000 about putting caps on these. 546 00:30:45,710 --> 00:30:47,510 And that fish tank is something else. 547 00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:49,750 Getting the betta fish was huge. 548 00:30:49,950 --> 00:30:52,750 And Boris, he was like, oh, my God. 549 00:30:52,970 --> 00:30:56,170 And then he stays there the whole time I'm cooking. Look at that. Problem 550 00:30:56,170 --> 00:30:57,170 solved, man. 551 00:30:57,710 --> 00:31:02,570 One thing that I'm noticing here that we can still do something about. We go 552 00:31:02,570 --> 00:31:07,150 from catch -free to sell, but we're missing. We got that drop -off over 553 00:31:07,170 --> 00:31:08,149 So come over here. 554 00:31:08,150 --> 00:31:10,050 Debbie's done all the homework right. 555 00:31:10,510 --> 00:31:14,070 I'm just giving her tweaks just to make things even better than they already are 556 00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:15,230 here. Do you have a ladder? 557 00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:18,110 It's kind of a funky old ladder. Where is it? 558 00:31:18,730 --> 00:31:20,850 It's out on the balcony. Cool. Oh, there it is. 559 00:31:21,230 --> 00:31:22,950 Oh, my God. This is going to work beautifully. 560 00:31:23,330 --> 00:31:27,730 You do not have to spend a bazillion dollars to have your cats be happy on 561 00:31:27,730 --> 00:31:31,390 furniture. There's got to be something in your house you can use. All we've got 562 00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:33,250 to do is catify it a little bit. 563 00:31:33,610 --> 00:31:36,450 Good to go. These cats are going to love it. Now, let's see. 564 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,600 If we can entice your guys to jump up onto an area like this. 565 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,020 Come on up, buddy. 566 00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:43,780 Come on up, buddy. 567 00:31:44,660 --> 00:31:46,100 Look. Look. 568 00:31:50,340 --> 00:31:51,340 Here we come. 569 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,620 That's my boy. That's my boy. 570 00:31:54,860 --> 00:31:58,280 I would never have thought to use the ladder that way. Never in 10 million 571 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,120 years. But now, I think it's brilliant. 572 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,460 We've taken care of most every destructive problem that we've had in 573 00:32:07,290 --> 00:32:08,410 Anything else I can help with? 574 00:32:08,810 --> 00:32:13,830 Yeah. Igor likes water, but he's afraid to get wet, and I didn't start bathing 575 00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:15,410 them when they were kittens like I should. 576 00:32:15,730 --> 00:32:19,970 So that's why they get a little ring around the collar, you know? Yes. And I 577 00:32:19,970 --> 00:32:24,090 chase them down with, like, baby wipes and stuff. Now, I think Don's boys are 578 00:32:24,090 --> 00:32:27,070 the same as things they need baths, something like once a week, right? 579 00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:28,470 So they say. So they say. 580 00:32:28,890 --> 00:32:33,930 Whether you're Sphinx, Donskoy, or any hairless cat, you create a lot more oil 581 00:32:33,930 --> 00:32:38,770 from your skin. And if your hairless cat absolutely won't take that bath, you 582 00:32:38,770 --> 00:32:42,370 can try a fragrance -free baby wipe because these guys can get skin 583 00:32:42,370 --> 00:32:46,670 just like that. You did a great job, and you did really good by your cats. I 584 00:32:46,670 --> 00:32:49,510 passed the Jackson test. You did, man, with fine colors. I don't even have to 585 00:32:49,510 --> 00:32:53,230 come back a third time. Debbie's a perfect example of what happens when you 586 00:32:53,230 --> 00:32:57,020 listen and follow along with suggestions. Yeah, I get it. Debbie has 587 00:32:57,020 --> 00:33:00,420 now. She knows how to utilize them. She knows how to look for trouble. If there 588 00:33:00,420 --> 00:33:03,760 is any trouble, she knows how to fix it, but she's not going to need that 589 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,260 because the boys are fulfilled right now. 590 00:33:05,740 --> 00:33:06,740 Mission accomplished. 591 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:07,819 Take care of yourself. 592 00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:11,440 Taking on all of Jackson's homework has really impacted the quality of all three 593 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,800 of our lives pretty drastically. It's not perfect yet, but these cats haven't 594 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,080 seen anything yet. I've still got a lot of my fruit. 595 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,760 In my years of working with cats, I've seen them contribute to our well -being 596 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,800 in multiple, unexpected, inspirational ways. And now you can too. 597 00:33:29,020 --> 00:33:32,340 It's my pleasure to share some of their stories with you. Welcome to A Little 598 00:33:32,340 --> 00:33:33,860 Slice of My Cat from Heaven. 599 00:33:35,860 --> 00:33:40,120 Animals can sense danger well before humans can. Now Herbie is no different. 600 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,460 here on Staten Island to visit with Herbie and his family after he saved a 601 00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:47,360 from dying. I just got to thank him. 602 00:33:47,740 --> 00:33:48,740 Hey! 603 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,760 Hi, Jackson. Thank you for coming. 604 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,120 My name is Janine. I'm a single mom to two kids. I'm going into a master's 605 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,320 program, and I do a lot of cat fostering. So, Janine, tell me about 606 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,740 Herbie was a cat from the Pets on Death Roller. 607 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,220 I work with Staten Island Hope Rescue, and they had asked me if I would foster 608 00:34:07,220 --> 00:34:08,420 him, and I said, sure. 609 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:12,520 And he just fit in right away. The one thing I can tell you is that this cat is 610 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,620 so friendly. 611 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,500 It absolutely comes to you, rubs up against you. You've got to think. 612 00:34:17,870 --> 00:34:22,370 that he was put in your path for a very good reason. Yeah, so it was July of 613 00:34:22,370 --> 00:34:28,670 2014. I was up all night. I was a new mom. I had two kids. I was in school. 614 00:34:28,949 --> 00:34:32,050 I was so tired I just wanted to go to sleep. But then... 615 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,659 Herbie was jumping on my bed and jumping off and running to the door. And I was 616 00:34:35,659 --> 00:34:39,040 so tired. I was like, all right, he's just being a cat. But something said 617 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,080 is not his personality. There's something wrong. 618 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,760 So I followed him, and he led me to my daughter's room. 619 00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:48,920 And when I opened up the door, he jumped into her crib. And she had had her 620 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,920 little blank. 621 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,300 And she must have rolled over, and it went onto her face. And she was making 622 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,699 these, like, smothering noises, like she couldn't breathe. 623 00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:04,930 He jumped into her crib and he was pouring at the blanket. 624 00:35:05,150 --> 00:35:08,750 He saved my daughter. 625 00:35:10,410 --> 00:35:11,590 That's incredible. 626 00:35:12,350 --> 00:35:17,690 Every cat that's come into my life, there has been one moment where you go, 627 00:35:17,950 --> 00:35:19,570 this is why you're here. 628 00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:22,790 And I knew at that point, I was like, enough, he's my family. 629 00:35:23,010 --> 00:35:24,010 You just earned it. 630 00:35:25,050 --> 00:35:29,010 Meeting Herbie today is fantastic in so many ways. He saved a little girl's 631 00:35:29,010 --> 00:35:30,470 life. Hi, Isabella. 632 00:35:30,750 --> 00:35:31,750 Hi, Herbie. 633 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,480 And they saved his life. This cat was about to be killed in a shelter. He 634 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,680 wouldn't have had the chance to save these lives. This is this life -saving 635 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,960 cycle right in front of me. 636 00:35:42,740 --> 00:35:47,520 Herbie looks like one big ball of perfect cat, but is there anything that 637 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,178 might need? 638 00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:52,280 When I started fostering him and he came to the house, he started to pee and 639 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,280 poop in the tub. 640 00:35:53,550 --> 00:35:56,570 At first I thought it was just, oh, he didn't like the cats, it's a new home, 641 00:35:56,830 --> 00:35:57,830 but it's two years. 642 00:35:58,010 --> 00:36:02,850 Does he use the litter box at all? He does. He just prefers to use the tub as 643 00:36:02,850 --> 00:36:08,250 toilet. When I see cats that go into the bathtub, a lot of times it's sensitive 644 00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:12,550 paws. And when they go to step in a litter box, it's those little pellets 645 00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:17,650 really, really hurt them. The really kind of sand -like litters, that I would 646 00:36:17,650 --> 00:36:18,650 definitely try. 647 00:36:18,750 --> 00:36:23,550 Herbie is very sensitive and in tune with my family, but he also may be very 648 00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:24,750 sensitive physically. 649 00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:29,490 So I'm going to use the litter that's better for Herbie's sensitive cause. 650 00:36:29,770 --> 00:36:32,730 Thank you so much for having me. I'm so glad you were able to meet him. Having 651 00:36:32,730 --> 00:36:38,270 Jackson in my home, it's just very validating that Jackson knows that 652 00:36:38,270 --> 00:36:40,330 really is the hero. Bye -bye. Bye, Jackson. 653 00:36:41,290 --> 00:36:44,630 Go and save an animal because chances are they may save you. 654 00:36:53,130 --> 00:36:56,790 All right, I'm heading back to Ellen's feral colony for my last visit with her. 655 00:36:56,850 --> 00:36:58,930 Now, we have had tremendous success here. 656 00:36:59,170 --> 00:37:03,530 Seven cats the first night, but we had some serious unfinished business. I 657 00:37:03,530 --> 00:37:07,050 that one of the cats that was trapped was a tame kitten that I was able to 658 00:37:07,050 --> 00:37:08,330 up the last time I was here. 659 00:37:08,530 --> 00:37:12,150 Cats tame enough that apparently they've named him Blondie and one of Ellen's 660 00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:13,830 neighbors wants to adopt him, maybe. 661 00:37:14,050 --> 00:37:18,050 Now, I have no idea how this is going to turn out in terms of making these cats 662 00:37:18,050 --> 00:37:19,370 into domestic indoor companions. 663 00:37:20,170 --> 00:37:22,630 But I do want to check in with Ellen's neighbor to see how it's going. 664 00:37:24,910 --> 00:37:30,210 Okay. I can't tell you how excited I am to see this little boy. 665 00:37:30,910 --> 00:37:35,830 The first night I was here, I met Blondie in the street. And at the time, 666 00:37:35,830 --> 00:37:40,270 the most mortifying thought to me that I don't know what to do with him. I 667 00:37:40,270 --> 00:37:44,330 wasn't expecting a tame cat while I'm out here scouting for ferals. If the cat 668 00:37:44,330 --> 00:37:45,910 is tame, he should be in a home. 669 00:37:46,430 --> 00:37:47,830 Hello, my little boy. 670 00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:51,010 I couldn't stop thinking about him. Hi. 671 00:37:52,210 --> 00:37:53,950 Is he at this point your cat? 672 00:37:55,470 --> 00:38:00,470 Absolutely, 100%. Fantastic. I'm really glad that you made the commitment to 673 00:38:00,470 --> 00:38:04,870 actually adopt him because there's that line where you say, are you feral or are 674 00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:06,630 you mine? And you said you're mine. 675 00:38:06,930 --> 00:38:13,590 And how could you say no? I couldn't be more happy. Seeing Blondie again 676 00:38:13,590 --> 00:38:17,930 in the context of being in someone's life as their cat. 677 00:38:18,490 --> 00:38:19,710 is an amazing feeling. 678 00:38:19,970 --> 00:38:24,730 I mean, to know that he's going to be safe means more to me than anybody could 679 00:38:24,730 --> 00:38:29,250 ever know. I can sleep at night. I know he's got a home. You're his adopted dad. 680 00:38:30,050 --> 00:38:33,750 Yay. Okay. Thank you so much for that, man. Thank you for taking this boy off 681 00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:37,030 the street. Yeah. All right. You take care, man. Yeah, take care. Bye. 682 00:38:37,770 --> 00:38:41,210 All right, I'm on my way back to Ellen's house, and since the last time I 683 00:38:41,210 --> 00:38:45,230 checked in, we're still trapping cats in this neighborhood because the job's not 684 00:38:45,230 --> 00:38:47,790 done yet. But there's still feral cats out here. 685 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,000 If we're not trapped and neutered, that means that they're just making more cats 686 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,640 than all of us just for nothing. Look, there is no 75 % effort here. We're not 687 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,340 stopping until we're done. So now what's our grand total right now? How many 688 00:39:00,340 --> 00:39:01,340 cats do we have? 689 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,000 Hello. Hello, ma 'am. 690 00:39:14,250 --> 00:39:18,550 Since last I checked in, we're still trapping in this neighborhood because 691 00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:21,930 job's not done. We're not done until we're sure we got everybody. 692 00:39:22,290 --> 00:39:24,590 So now what's our grand total right now? How many cats have you caught? 693 00:39:26,130 --> 00:39:27,130 What? 694 00:39:27,950 --> 00:39:29,170 Fifteen. Fifteen. 695 00:39:29,890 --> 00:39:30,890 That's amazing. 696 00:39:31,130 --> 00:39:32,290 That is so cool. 697 00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:35,490 Since Jackson was here last time, we've had eight more cats. 698 00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:36,750 It's been a ride. 699 00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:38,950 It's been great. It's really been great. 700 00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:43,990 When I met you, you had... These cats, you had the fact that you were tired. 701 00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:46,970 had been trying to do this by yourself all these years. Do you feel like that's 702 00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:47,709 better now? 703 00:39:47,710 --> 00:39:48,629 Yes, I do. 704 00:39:48,630 --> 00:39:52,510 Thanks to you. I got to say, you look relieved. 705 00:39:52,970 --> 00:39:53,669 I am. 706 00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:59,170 I am. I felt like, you know, I was alone on the ship, but you helped me a lot. I 707 00:39:59,170 --> 00:40:04,030 mean, as far as I'm concerned, in terms of helping this community's cats shrink, 708 00:40:04,270 --> 00:40:07,730 I think we did it. We did it. We did it. And it just takes people who care about 709 00:40:07,730 --> 00:40:08,730 animals like you do. 710 00:40:08,850 --> 00:40:09,850 And you're... 711 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,500 Your care for these animals is inspiring, and I hope people understand 712 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,680 Thank you so much. 713 00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:17,260 Yeah. Well, that's it for me. 714 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,260 And if you need anything in the future, hopefully you've got a network here. 715 00:40:22,380 --> 00:40:24,840 Please involve me. I want to be able to be a resource for you, okay? 716 00:40:25,060 --> 00:40:26,900 Okay. All right, cool. Thank you so much. 717 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:32,700 The first time I came here, Ellen was literally up to her neck in feral cats, 718 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,620 and now she doesn't have to live in constant stress. 719 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,160 But these cats don't have to either. 720 00:40:38,780 --> 00:40:42,740 We had about 30 cats out there. We trapped and neutered over half of them. 721 00:40:42,740 --> 00:40:43,740 call that a huge win. 722 00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:50,940 We have a long way to go to make sure that every feral cat has an acceptable 723 00:40:50,940 --> 00:40:55,000 life and that they stop reproducing. But it's days like this where I can look 724 00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,320 around and say, yeah, man, we did our part. And doing your part, it's all it 725 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,320 takes. 726 00:41:06,890 --> 00:41:10,430 The hell isn't over yet. 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