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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,549 --> 00:00:03,290 Quincy. Quincy, no. 2 00:00:04,130 --> 00:00:06,210 I don't think that this is a law. 3 00:00:06,970 --> 00:00:09,830 What in the hell happened here? 4 00:00:10,390 --> 00:00:12,310 He's being a jerk. I'm a jerk? 5 00:00:13,490 --> 00:00:18,450 Ziggy was tossed from a moving car, and she paralyzed from the waist down. 6 00:00:19,550 --> 00:00:20,750 I'm Jackson Galaxy. 7 00:00:21,090 --> 00:00:22,090 I am Cat. 8 00:00:22,190 --> 00:00:23,970 The animal behavior is wow. 9 00:00:24,290 --> 00:00:27,470 The guardians call, and they're dealing with a difficult cat. 10 00:00:28,790 --> 00:00:30,390 Wow, he really got you. 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,900 I'm out to prove that there is no such thing as a bad cat. 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,560 Just a cat that needs my help. You did it. 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:43,400 My 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:54,080 name 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,100 is Christy, and I live in Northridge, California. 16 00:00:56,700 --> 00:00:57,920 I found Skylar. 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,980 When she was about four or five days old, I found her in a garage. 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,580 Her mom had abandoned her, so I fell in love with her instantly. 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,080 Over the last three years, Skylar's behavior has gotten worse. 20 00:01:12,020 --> 00:01:14,680 She really hates her tail. 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,240 She'll just start growling at her tail. 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,360 And she'll start hissing, and she'll run from it, and she'll hide from it. She 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:26,560 seems miserable. 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,920 because she's always running from her tail. 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:38,380 Skylar is a very loving cat, but she will whip right away. So 26 00:01:38,380 --> 00:01:42,720 I can be petting her, and she's purring, and she's loving, and then all of a 27 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,340 sudden she will just attack. 28 00:01:46,100 --> 00:01:47,100 Skylar! 29 00:01:47,500 --> 00:01:48,500 No. 30 00:01:51,180 --> 00:01:54,920 Skylar will scratch me, claw me, bite me. 31 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,240 Oh, my God. 32 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,920 I just don't know how to handle the situation, so I really need help in 33 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,100 make her life better. 34 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,960 You know, sometimes a cat's behavior is so mysterious that not only does it do 35 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,840 damage to them, it does damage to the relationship between them and their 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,960 guardian. Now, in the case of Skylar, it's driving Christy berserk. I'm going 37 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,680 go over there right now and see if I can make heads or tails of the situation. 38 00:02:30,380 --> 00:02:33,620 Hey. Hi, good to see you. How are you? Good, how are you doing? I'm doing 39 00:02:33,660 --> 00:02:34,660 thank you. Good. 40 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,560 So, let's talk. 41 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:42,020 Skylar hates her tail. She will hiss and growl and run away from her tail at 42 00:02:42,020 --> 00:02:43,140 least 30 times a day. 43 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,260 30 times a day? At least. 44 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,040 That's pretty severe. 45 00:02:50,340 --> 00:02:53,160 Yeah. Has your cat been checked out by the vet? 46 00:02:53,460 --> 00:02:56,100 Do we know that there's no, never? 47 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,400 Nothing for this. 48 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:00,980 Now, here's the thing. 49 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,160 The way you're saying this, you're already feeling guilty. 50 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,880 It sets off really huge alarm bells in me that Christy won't take her cat to 51 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,260 vet. So I got to dig a little deeper into why. 52 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,640 I mean, no matter what we do is the first thing I always say. We got to go 53 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:19,360 the vet, make sure we got a clean bill of health. 54 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:24,300 The reason I haven't taken her to the vet, though, is because recently I was 55 00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:25,760 go from my job. Oh, I'm sorry. 56 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,039 That sucks. 57 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:27,619 Yeah, it does. 58 00:03:27,620 --> 00:03:28,780 So I don't have any money. 59 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,680 So, there she is. 60 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:40,220 Do you mind if I mess with you a little bit? Can I mess with you a little bit? 61 00:03:40,260 --> 00:03:41,800 Hello, my baby. 62 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:49,900 And I'm watching to see if the touch to the tail would elicit a response. 63 00:03:50,660 --> 00:03:55,100 So, it's not. Now, is it predictable enough for you? Because it seems like 64 00:03:55,100 --> 00:03:57,060 have a hard time controlling yourself around her. 65 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:58,840 I do, because I love her. 66 00:03:59,999 --> 00:04:01,620 I love her. 67 00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:09,080 When she is in the midst of going through her thing, does she redirect 68 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:09,839 onto you? 69 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,940 I mean, I've got Mark everywhere. 70 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,160 Holy crap. 71 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,519 Hold on. 72 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,620 What in the hell happened to you? 73 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,760 I picked her up. You picked her up and this happened? Yeah. 74 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,160 That's horrific. 75 00:04:28,890 --> 00:04:29,889 I don't get it. 76 00:04:29,890 --> 00:04:32,410 I don't get that this isn't the reason I'm here. 77 00:04:32,890 --> 00:04:37,650 I'm here because Skylar is biting her own tail, not because Christy is getting 78 00:04:37,650 --> 00:04:43,070 the ever -loving snot kicked out of her. Why is Christy being so coy about this? 79 00:04:43,410 --> 00:04:45,130 Can you trigger it if you want to? 80 00:04:45,610 --> 00:04:47,230 Normally all I have to do is go, Sky, Sky. 81 00:04:49,970 --> 00:04:51,430 I always say it like that. Sky, Sky. 82 00:04:51,750 --> 00:04:53,330 And she'll move her tail and she'll start growling. 83 00:04:53,740 --> 00:04:58,740 For her, that physical response triggers something, which is such a sad concept 84 00:04:58,740 --> 00:05:04,440 that when you call her name, you're now getting a growl. It's really sad, and 85 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:09,600 it's very hard for me. Watching Skylar go through this on a daily basis, I get 86 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,520 depressed. It's really, really hard for me to watch. 87 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:13,920 She's my everything. 88 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,860 My cat is my life, meaning without my cat I have no life. 89 00:05:18,420 --> 00:05:19,980 That's not just being a good mom. 90 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,720 That's being codependent. That's something you really got to look out 91 00:05:24,420 --> 00:05:30,600 Do you think that there's any cause and effect, sort of the vicious cycle, that 92 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:36,480 you get depressed, she senses something's up, she's avoiding you, you 93 00:05:36,700 --> 00:05:39,060 and the relationship is starting to fray? 94 00:05:39,420 --> 00:05:44,120 Maybe my aura is negative, and that's why she doesn't come near me as much, 95 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,320 then she's just making it worse. 96 00:05:45,940 --> 00:05:47,540 Why? Because I need my cat. 97 00:05:48,140 --> 00:05:51,320 I need my cat's affection. To not get affection from her is kind of sad. 98 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,920 So if you feel rejected by her... Yeah, it's like, then I'm just here by myself. 99 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,720 Let's get out of here for a second. You want to take a walk with me? Yeah. Come 100 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:14,720 on. Sounds good. 101 00:06:14,830 --> 00:06:21,070 I absolutely, 100 % believe that Christy's depression affects Skylar. I 102 00:06:21,070 --> 00:06:25,890 it's this really vicious cycle where you've got depression that is then 103 00:06:25,890 --> 00:06:29,990 back to the human, who mirrors it back to the cat, and the two of them are 104 00:06:29,990 --> 00:06:31,190 circling the drain together. 105 00:06:31,670 --> 00:06:37,810 I had my animals around me when I was OD'd on the floor, kind of thing, and 106 00:06:37,810 --> 00:06:40,110 would get ill. They're sponges in that way. 107 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,320 I want to make sure you're taking care of you while I'm trying to help take 108 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:45,320 of your cat. Yeah. 109 00:06:45,740 --> 00:06:51,440 I think that I'm uniquely suited to help Christy through this time in her life 110 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:56,280 because I share a history of depression and self -destructive behavior. 111 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:57,980 Let's go back to the vet thing. 112 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:59,440 Yeah. 113 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:01,780 Because I keep getting that out of you. 114 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:07,140 Every time I mention the vet, you get sheepish. What is that? Is it just 115 00:07:07,140 --> 00:07:09,040 because, is it the money? 116 00:07:09,450 --> 00:07:11,550 Money is a lot of it. I've had bad experiences. 117 00:07:11,970 --> 00:07:12,970 What's your experience? 118 00:07:13,150 --> 00:07:19,010 Every time I brought a cat there, it's never been good, right? So first they're 119 00:07:19,010 --> 00:07:21,530 going to want to check for fleas, and they're going to want to bring her to a 120 00:07:21,530 --> 00:07:28,350 neurologist, and I can't even imagine how much that 121 00:07:28,350 --> 00:07:34,390 costs. Knowing my luck, this is going to be some horrible thing that I can't do 122 00:07:34,390 --> 00:07:35,169 anything about. 123 00:07:35,170 --> 00:07:36,850 But we want to find out. 124 00:07:37,090 --> 00:07:41,040 One thing that doesn't add up to me at all, Christy is a devoted cat mom. 125 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:46,120 Devoted. At the end of the day, Christy, you've got to bring your cat to the 126 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,580 vet. That's part of being a parent. 127 00:07:58,180 --> 00:08:05,100 Every now and again, I meet somebody who their situation supersedes that of 128 00:08:05,100 --> 00:08:06,100 their cat. 129 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:11,700 Christy and Skylar together create this sort of chain of dysfunction that 130 00:08:11,700 --> 00:08:15,900 affects them both in a really negative way. I want Christy to experience a 131 00:08:15,900 --> 00:08:19,920 better, fuller life for her and also for the sake of Skylar. 132 00:08:20,460 --> 00:08:23,880 I'll tell you my observations first and foremost. 133 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:29,400 We've got the twitch going on. The tail is going on. The tail is always... I'm 134 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,580 just going to not touch her at the moment. What you're seeing from Skylar's 135 00:08:33,580 --> 00:08:35,299 is not behavior. It's physical. 136 00:08:35,710 --> 00:08:41,370 From watching her gait, is that there may be something going on, whether it's 137 00:08:41,370 --> 00:08:46,310 old fracture in her tail, whether it's a small fracture at the base of the 138 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:50,910 spine, because remember, the spine continues the tail. The only way to find 139 00:08:50,910 --> 00:08:52,930 what's going on is to get to the vet. 140 00:08:53,510 --> 00:08:54,990 Yes, we're going to have to do a lot of testing. 141 00:08:55,210 --> 00:09:00,010 That's all there is to it. I mean, x -rays, for sure. And blood tests. I'll 142 00:09:00,010 --> 00:09:03,090 a deal with you. You throw your arms around this process. 143 00:09:04,060 --> 00:09:09,160 and I will help out with the vet thing, okay? So let me help take a little bit 144 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,160 of the money off. 145 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:11,960 That's not supposed to make me sad. 146 00:09:12,180 --> 00:09:13,280 It doesn't make me sad. 147 00:09:15,340 --> 00:09:20,720 I don't do that normally, and I wouldn't do it unless I felt like there's 148 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,600 something really great waiting for you guys, and I just don't want you to get 149 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,319 your own way. 150 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,320 I appreciate it. 151 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:26,499 I do. 152 00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:31,080 That's the service to her. The second thing is service to you. There can't be 153 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,520 this Schuyler -shaped hole in you, right? 154 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,580 You've got to be able to be whole. 155 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,060 Christy's got to take care of Christy in order for her to take care of Skylar. 156 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,660 So I want her to start getting comfortable in her own skin. The way she 157 00:09:43,660 --> 00:09:50,120 that is to learn how to meditate. The idea is for you to be comfortable, 158 00:09:50,420 --> 00:09:54,480 and quiet, and not reaching for anything to soothe. 159 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,160 The last thing that I want Christy to do, I want her to spend time as part of 160 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,440 community. Right now, there's a lot of isolation happening in your life. I 161 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,860 that there's something in you that really needs to be around, not just your 162 00:10:05,860 --> 00:10:06,960 animal, but animals. Yes. 163 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,660 I want her to go to a shelter, clean cages, just put some love on these cats. 164 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,160 It'll get her out of this place. 165 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,360 It'll get her involved in something, and that's really, really crucial. 166 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,360 Look, at the end of the day, I'm not a vet. I'm not a shrink. 167 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,700 I'm someone who shares your experiences. 168 00:10:22,510 --> 00:10:23,850 In a big way. Yeah. 169 00:10:24,130 --> 00:10:28,630 And I really believe one way or another, you guys are both going to benefit from 170 00:10:28,630 --> 00:10:29,630 it. I think so too. 171 00:10:29,870 --> 00:10:33,550 The work that I have to put in to help Skylar is a bit overwhelming only 172 00:10:33,550 --> 00:10:40,430 a lot of it has to do with me changing who I am. I really have to help myself 173 00:10:40,430 --> 00:10:41,430 that I can help Skylar. 174 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:53,539 I'm Stacy. 175 00:10:53,540 --> 00:10:54,339 And I'm Gary. 176 00:10:54,340 --> 00:10:55,660 And we live in Sherman Oak. 177 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,800 We've been together seven years now. Seven years, we've been married about 178 00:10:59,180 --> 00:11:03,360 When I adopted Quincy, he was only two months old. It seems like the older he 179 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,240 got, his problems seemed to grow with him. 180 00:11:06,460 --> 00:11:09,140 His behavior is really predictably unpredictable. 181 00:11:11,380 --> 00:11:15,620 He knows exactly what he's doing. He knows exactly what's in the law, and he 182 00:11:15,620 --> 00:11:16,620 keeps doing it. 183 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,480 When we first got him, he was an excellent litter box user. 184 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,060 And when he started growing out of the litter box, I replaced it with a bigger 185 00:11:24,060 --> 00:11:28,180 box. And that's when he seemed to have started pooping on the floor. Not every 186 00:11:28,180 --> 00:11:29,200 time, just sometimes. 187 00:11:29,540 --> 00:11:33,800 So sometimes he poos in the box, sometimes he doesn't. And look what I 188 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:34,800 to. 189 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,940 Feels like he's just doing it to be mean. 190 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,540 He seems to have violent tendencies. 191 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,280 I mean, he's a cute -looking cat, but it's almost like randomly he becomes 192 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,840 violent and then just attacks. 193 00:11:46,180 --> 00:11:47,420 He is cute, though, isn't he? 194 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Mm -hmm. You know what you did. 195 00:11:50,180 --> 00:11:54,260 No matter what we do or say, he's going to keep doing it until something 196 00:11:54,260 --> 00:11:59,300 changes. If Jackson doesn't help us, I'm afraid the tension between Gary and I 197 00:11:59,300 --> 00:12:03,200 is going to escalate to deeper issues that we won't be able to fix. 198 00:12:07,660 --> 00:12:08,880 Hey, how are you? 199 00:12:10,170 --> 00:12:13,890 Thank you for coming out. We need some help coming in. Okay, that's what I'm 200 00:12:13,890 --> 00:12:16,610 here for, man. Help us. We're dying. We are. 201 00:12:17,230 --> 00:12:19,350 So, what's going on here? 202 00:12:19,630 --> 00:12:22,570 We've got a cat that has a behavioral problem. 203 00:12:22,790 --> 00:12:26,210 Okay. Want to try grabbing him? Yeah, he's lurking in a corner somewhere. 204 00:12:27,550 --> 00:12:28,750 Oh, there he is. 205 00:12:29,210 --> 00:12:30,870 Jackson, this is Quincy. 206 00:12:31,130 --> 00:12:32,130 Quincy Jackson. 207 00:12:32,490 --> 00:12:34,490 He's gorgeous. He's the cutest cat. 208 00:12:34,710 --> 00:12:35,710 He really is. 209 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,380 He is held. He's two years old. He brought him home, actually. I brought 210 00:12:39,380 --> 00:12:44,960 home when he was about four months old. Was it not your idea? It was her fault. 211 00:12:45,220 --> 00:12:49,220 You were going to say it. I was going to say fault, but her idea, he just sprung 212 00:12:49,220 --> 00:12:50,300 it on me. I adopted a cat. 213 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:51,780 Really? Yeah. 214 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:53,440 Now what happened? 215 00:12:53,660 --> 00:12:55,100 Initially, it was the litter box. 216 00:12:55,380 --> 00:12:57,280 He sometimes poops in the box. 217 00:12:57,530 --> 00:13:00,990 Sometimes he doesn't. And it's the way he poops in the box, too. It's so weird. 218 00:13:01,030 --> 00:13:05,530 The box is pretty big, but he'll always go right to the very edge of the box and 219 00:13:05,530 --> 00:13:09,590 put his front paws on the edge of the box. Your face is imitated a cat 220 00:13:09,770 --> 00:13:11,210 You actually did that really well there. 221 00:13:12,190 --> 00:13:13,149 What else? 222 00:13:13,150 --> 00:13:15,430 That's just a small issue. It's my big issue. 223 00:13:15,750 --> 00:13:18,510 That's a big issue for me. It's big for you, not big for you. It's not a big 224 00:13:18,510 --> 00:13:21,890 issue for him because he doesn't clean it up. I clean up the poop on the floor. 225 00:13:22,010 --> 00:13:25,890 If that's not the big problem, what is the big problem? He just attacks me. 226 00:13:27,410 --> 00:13:28,570 This is from yesterday. 227 00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:30,690 We can't figure out why he's doing it. 228 00:13:31,070 --> 00:13:35,290 I feel like Quincy bites him and attacks him for attention because Gary doesn't 229 00:13:35,290 --> 00:13:38,910 play with him enough. That has become a huge issue, and the way that we deal 230 00:13:38,910 --> 00:13:40,470 with that, we lock him in the bathroom. 231 00:13:41,490 --> 00:13:46,410 Look, I have seen people give their cats timeouts when they're just sick of it 232 00:13:46,410 --> 00:13:49,190 and they don't want to deal with it anymore. They just put them in a room. 233 00:13:49,190 --> 00:13:51,870 it work? All the toilet paper is off the thing. 234 00:13:52,090 --> 00:13:55,670 He pooped in there before. So the answer is no, it doesn't work. I guess not. 235 00:13:56,140 --> 00:13:59,060 So why do you keep doing it? I'm trying to find a way to punish the cat. She 236 00:13:59,060 --> 00:14:02,640 kind of lets him do his thing, which we argue a lot about. You have polar 237 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:03,840 opposite approaches. 238 00:14:04,220 --> 00:14:06,540 We're basically talking about our marriage right now. 239 00:14:07,260 --> 00:14:12,060 Does Quincy become a catalyst for bigger things between the two of you? He is a 240 00:14:12,060 --> 00:14:15,780 four -legged metaphor for how we deal with life and how differently we 241 00:14:15,780 --> 00:14:17,160 circumstances and problems. 242 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,000 I'm seeing a lot of the common frustrations that I see in a lot of cat 243 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,720 play out through Gary and Stacey. 244 00:14:23,070 --> 00:14:27,770 Number one, there's the concept that a cat is just willfully being mean. And 245 00:14:27,770 --> 00:14:29,850 there's a misconception that cats don't need exercise. 246 00:14:30,070 --> 00:14:32,110 And without exercise, they become Quincy. 247 00:14:32,590 --> 00:14:34,030 Quincy, danger of leaving here? 248 00:14:34,250 --> 00:14:35,350 No, absolutely not. 249 00:14:35,590 --> 00:14:39,330 My God, you should have seen what just happened there. Look, I love the cat. 250 00:14:39,550 --> 00:14:42,750 It's almost like I'd rather not be here. The cat can be here, but I'm going to 251 00:14:42,750 --> 00:14:45,990 be somewhere else. Is this a conversation too? The cat's not going 252 00:14:46,810 --> 00:14:50,590 If we can't get rid of these problems, I don't even want to think about when it 253 00:14:50,590 --> 00:14:52,190 comes to our relationship, what it can do. 254 00:14:52,650 --> 00:14:57,070 I want to see any stuff that you have that's cat stuff and any place where he 255 00:14:57,070 --> 00:14:59,110 tends to wreak havoc. Okay? Okay. Let's go. 256 00:14:59,470 --> 00:15:01,110 So that's the litter box. 257 00:15:01,430 --> 00:15:05,590 So when he takes a poo, he dumps it right there. It's always in that spot. 258 00:15:05,590 --> 00:15:11,010 cats go right outside the box, he's either uncomfortable in his gut. 259 00:15:11,340 --> 00:15:14,360 Or he doesn't like the litter itself. 260 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,360 Okay, so you're saying that you don't pick up the poop because these little 261 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,560 circles, I mean, if it's wet and you grab it, it sort of smushes inside. If 262 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,080 weren't for getting into the hole, you would pick it up. It would be easier to 263 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,440 pick up the litter. He wouldn't pick it up. I think we could have a mat with 264 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,700 holes, a mat with squares. It does not matter. I don't think he's going to be 265 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:34,700 cleaning up any poop. 266 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,380 So where is it that he gets timeouts? 267 00:15:38,140 --> 00:15:40,600 Pretty much every day he winds up in here. 268 00:15:41,619 --> 00:15:46,980 Look, I have seen people give their cats time out and say, be better. It's not 269 00:15:46,980 --> 00:15:47,799 going to happen. 270 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,460 What is it that you expect to change with him when he's in here? That he'll 271 00:15:51,460 --> 00:15:55,540 understand that if he knocks stuff over or attacks me, he's going to get a time 272 00:15:55,540 --> 00:15:57,900 out. This is that itty -bitty space. 273 00:15:58,180 --> 00:15:59,560 This ends today. 274 00:15:59,900 --> 00:16:03,720 If I wasn't such a nice guy, the end of this day would have been me locking 275 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,300 those two in that bathroom for ten minutes. Those guys would have clawed 276 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:09,240 way out of that bathroom. I swear to you, they would have. 277 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,460 So, this is the land of what? 278 00:16:12,900 --> 00:16:16,560 Knocking everything over. When I try not to pay attention to him, he just knocks 279 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:17,560 over and looks at me again. 280 00:16:17,700 --> 00:16:20,720 It's almost like he's waiting for my reaction. What is the reaction? I get 281 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,300 upset. And? I yell at him in the beginning, and then if he continues 282 00:16:24,380 --> 00:16:25,380 I lock him in the bathroom. 283 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:31,840 Okay. It seems to be the subtext of everything in this home is, but stop it, 284 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,520 stop it. And your interpretation of what he's doing is what? He's being a jerk. 285 00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:41,880 You know, the whole misconception about cats being jerks is just a blatant 286 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,200 misunderstanding. They don't do it just to get a reaction. 287 00:16:45,420 --> 00:16:49,660 You've got to get into his head more because all of this comes from the same 288 00:16:49,660 --> 00:16:53,860 place. I'm getting angry because the cat is being locked in the bathroom because 289 00:16:53,860 --> 00:16:57,120 you can't deal with him. And you're not thinking about what you can do to make 290 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,700 his life better. I figured the only way I'm going to get that point across is 291 00:17:00,700 --> 00:17:03,940 loudly, really loudly. I'm him. I'm a jerk. 292 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,060 No, I'm not a jerk. Am I hungry? 293 00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:08,440 No, I'm not hungry. It's a cup. Wait a minute. 294 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:10,940 Oh, I'm bored. 295 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,780 I want attention right now. 296 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,180 I want attention right now. 297 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,720 Oh, I'm bored. 298 00:17:25,980 --> 00:17:28,840 He's bored all the time, guys. He's bored all the time. 299 00:17:29,620 --> 00:17:30,680 There's no cat. 300 00:17:31,180 --> 00:17:35,980 stuff in here. This boy is two years old. He is just getting into that world 301 00:17:35,980 --> 00:17:37,340 like, I am cat. 302 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,420 And what we have in return is, no, stop it. I'm going to put you in the 303 00:17:42,420 --> 00:17:44,340 bathroom. And then you get this. 304 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:50,600 This is simple cat math right here. And everything's going to change. The next 305 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,460 time their cat is knocking things off the shelf, what are they going to say? 306 00:17:54,460 --> 00:17:55,379 cat's bored. 307 00:17:55,380 --> 00:17:57,300 See, they're going to think that now. I've drilled it in. 308 00:17:57,550 --> 00:18:01,210 And if I'm acting all like this, I'm doing it for a reason because I am his 309 00:18:01,210 --> 00:18:02,830 ambassador right now. 310 00:18:03,030 --> 00:18:06,770 Jackson has clearly worked up. And I will say that I did get a little 311 00:18:06,770 --> 00:18:11,150 heartbroken when he said we weren't seeing things from Quincy's perspective. 312 00:18:11,150 --> 00:18:13,870 that really, that was a light bulb moment for me. 313 00:18:14,390 --> 00:18:18,390 Gary, you're going to play a huge part in this because he is coming to you for 314 00:18:18,390 --> 00:18:22,280 this. stimulation, and he's getting it, but now you have to guide him into an 315 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,600 appropriate place and say, this is the place, right? 316 00:18:24,820 --> 00:18:27,960 So I'm going to start breaking stuff out here for you. So these kinds of toys 317 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,580 are where I want you to go. This opens, you've got a feather, and this is a 318 00:18:32,580 --> 00:18:36,340 hunting toy. You get him locked into this toy and run him around until he's 319 00:18:36,340 --> 00:18:41,320 tired. Every day, I want Gary to commit to quality playtime. Playtime does not 320 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,840 mean petting and stroking and touching noses. It means wearing your cat out. 321 00:18:46,220 --> 00:18:49,280 All right, here, let me show you something. There's some simple things 322 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:49,839 can do. 323 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,020 This is a cup holder from a car. You stick it here, you put a cup in here. 324 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:55,480 It's not going anywhere. 325 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,540 When he goes after something like this, tries to knock it off, and he doesn't do 326 00:18:58,540 --> 00:19:01,800 it, he's not a dumb cat. He'll stop doing it. Here's another thing. This is 327 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,120 cat tree. Literally, this is his cat tree, because he doesn't have one. Get a 328 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:09,360 cat tree and use it around here. I want them to stop setting him up for failure. 329 00:19:09,540 --> 00:19:12,860 Right now, if there's a cup on the counter, he's going to knock it off. 330 00:19:12,860 --> 00:19:13,860 just what he's going to do. 331 00:19:13,980 --> 00:19:15,780 Make him do something that's more constructive. 332 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,640 So, we're talking litter box. 333 00:19:18,030 --> 00:19:21,030 It's not the location of the box, and it's not the box itself, because he goes 334 00:19:21,030 --> 00:19:24,870 in it. The other thing that he does that you imitated so beautifully was the 335 00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:27,170 perching on the front of that box. 336 00:19:27,430 --> 00:19:31,670 It's almost as if to say, I don't like the action of squatting in this box. 337 00:19:31,950 --> 00:19:34,790 One of the assignments that I have for Gary and Stacey is I want them to take 338 00:19:34,790 --> 00:19:38,830 the litter level down to about an inch. My hunch is that there's something about 339 00:19:38,830 --> 00:19:42,690 when Quincy gets in that box as a big cat, he's just not liking it. He's 340 00:19:42,690 --> 00:19:46,570 afraid of it, or he's afraid of the way his body feels when he's in it. 341 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,620 And both of those things need to be looked at. Also, there was the mat. 342 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,760 And if the only reason that you're not picking poop off the floor is because of 343 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,360 the holes in that mat, let's just get rid of the mat. If it works, it works. 344 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,120 There's one other thing, and that's Gary and Stacey actually communicating. If 345 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:05,160 these guys were to look at Quincy as their child and not an annoyance, the 346 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,760 problem would have been diffused years ago. 347 00:20:07,220 --> 00:20:11,700 You guys need to be touching base a lot. And it's not about you doing wrong, you 348 00:20:11,700 --> 00:20:14,860 doing right. It's about what's he expressing right now? What does he need? 349 00:20:15,310 --> 00:20:19,290 Get him to know what it's like to be a killer, but in a constructive way and 350 00:20:19,290 --> 00:20:20,670 making you bleed in the process. 351 00:20:20,890 --> 00:20:24,770 And that's really pretty much it. But you have to make a commitment to ending 352 00:20:24,770 --> 00:20:28,530 business as usual here. So that means there's no yelling at him. There's no 353 00:20:28,530 --> 00:20:31,970 locking in the bathroom. Doesn't work with cats. Never, not one time. I don't 354 00:20:31,970 --> 00:20:34,390 want to know that they did it even one more time past today. 355 00:20:34,650 --> 00:20:38,590 Last thing, record the comings and goings of your homework over the next 356 00:20:38,590 --> 00:20:39,399 of weeks. 357 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,580 Right on, guys. I'm going to take off. 358 00:20:40,860 --> 00:20:43,460 Jackson. All right, guys. Thank you. Take care. Thank you so much. Nice to 359 00:20:43,460 --> 00:20:44,460 you. Oh, you too. 360 00:20:44,540 --> 00:20:46,120 All right. Take care, guys. Thank you so much. Bye. 361 00:20:46,380 --> 00:20:50,000 If we're successful with this homework, that means we have communicated well 362 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,040 with each other. Maybe it'll improve other parts of our marriage, too. 363 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:54,440 We'll see. 364 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:05,840 I'm back here for my second visit with Christy, intercast Skyler. I really hope 365 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,720 Skyler's attacking her own tail left. 366 00:21:08,620 --> 00:21:13,400 And that Christy feels a little more grounded. Wow, her tail is just busy. 367 00:21:13,660 --> 00:21:16,780 It wasn't constant action last time I was here, right? 368 00:21:16,980 --> 00:21:17,980 Sky, 369 00:21:19,620 --> 00:21:20,620 Sky. 370 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,760 Sky, Sky. 371 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:22,800 Hi, sweetie. 372 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,100 You met Dr. Kelly. 373 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,620 Like Dr. Kelly. I liked her, yeah. Yeah, she's great, right? 374 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,940 I don't know what the outcome of all this is. 375 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:32,780 You don't either. 376 00:21:33,100 --> 00:21:34,079 Okay, good. 377 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,160 She'll be coming later. 378 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,400 Oh, fantastic. 379 00:21:36,460 --> 00:21:37,079 Oh, good. 380 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,140 So she'll give us the results at the same time so that we can all figure it 381 00:21:41,140 --> 00:21:44,760 together. And talk it out. Yeah. Chiller. Okay, good. Let me just tell 382 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:51,580 something. Even if Skylar is like World War III right now, you feel grounded 383 00:21:51,580 --> 00:21:53,140 to me. So tell me what you've done. 384 00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:54,620 So let's start with meditation. 385 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:58,420 I do it at least for 15 minutes each day. 386 00:21:58,760 --> 00:21:59,760 That's helped a lot. 387 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:04,940 I went to the shelter, which was therapy in itself. 388 00:22:05,420 --> 00:22:10,320 Why? Because you go in there and you're just there. Or for me, that's how it 389 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,340 was. I wasn't thinking about, I have to get this job. I have to do this. I was 390 00:22:14,340 --> 00:22:17,240 just there with the kittens. And they're just so adorable. It's like, how can 391 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,620 you focus on anything else? Right, right, right. So my energy has been 392 00:22:20,620 --> 00:22:22,080 but good. Wow. 393 00:22:22,380 --> 00:22:23,380 I got a job. 394 00:22:23,500 --> 00:22:24,500 Yay! 395 00:22:24,900 --> 00:22:29,440 But not only did I get a job, I got a job at a company that I've been trying 396 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,900 get into since 2005. 397 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,640 Wow. There's no way that would have happened without you. 398 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:41,240 There is not one part of me that believes I could have gotten this job 399 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:46,700 Jackson. He made me realize that my energy has so much more of an effect 400 00:22:46,700 --> 00:22:49,840 really I ever thought it could. 401 00:22:50,270 --> 00:22:55,890 Last time I was here, Christy was unemployed. She was absolutely lonely 402 00:22:55,890 --> 00:22:57,150 devastated and depressed. 403 00:22:57,530 --> 00:23:03,210 And just by the homework that she did, I believe her energy started to be more 404 00:23:03,210 --> 00:23:07,230 inviting, less like she was pushing the world away. What happened? She just 405 00:23:07,230 --> 00:23:11,030 landed a dream job. Now, you might be thinking that there's no connection. 406 00:23:11,530 --> 00:23:15,650 I'm telling you there's a connection. When is Dr. Kelly supposed to come? Very 407 00:23:15,650 --> 00:23:21,060 soon. Okay, good. What I want to do is go through your video homework. That 408 00:23:21,060 --> 00:23:22,460 should shed some light. 409 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,940 I'm going to just gently, I'm going to press along her back and I'm going to 410 00:23:27,940 --> 00:23:30,760 if she has any sensation or back pain. 411 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,100 What's going on with you right there? 412 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:35,500 They were touching my cat. 413 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,960 She definitely doesn't like it, does she? 414 00:23:39,980 --> 00:23:40,980 Huh? 415 00:23:42,110 --> 00:23:44,150 I'm freaking out at what is about to happen. 416 00:23:44,510 --> 00:23:46,530 We're going to try and get the blood sample now. 417 00:23:46,970 --> 00:23:48,950 Oh, my gosh. What I'm looking for. 418 00:23:57,930 --> 00:23:58,930 What's going on? 419 00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:00,730 I'm trying to think. 420 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,840 What I'm noticing in the video homework is that Christy is not being mindful 421 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,880 about her actions with Skylar. The singing part of things. Because I did 422 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,060 you to notice, Skylar actually got a little worse. 423 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,920 Christy got Skylar all ramped up. It shows me that Christy's still not at 424 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,480 place where she understands her own cat as well as she needs to. 425 00:24:25,780 --> 00:24:26,960 Great timing. Cool. 426 00:24:28,910 --> 00:24:32,050 So now that the doctor's here, I am holding my breath. 427 00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:38,270 I've been dreading finding out if there is anything medically wrong with my cat. 428 00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:41,650 Her blood test was very normal. 429 00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:44,430 Internal organ function is all fine. 430 00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:50,990 Good. So I had the x -rays reviewed by a board -certified radiologist and an 431 00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:55,590 orthopedic surgeon. Both did not think that there was anything abnormal. 432 00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:59,470 Nothing. You know, she's not acting this way because there's some kind of 433 00:24:59,470 --> 00:25:00,530 undiagnosed illness. 434 00:25:01,110 --> 00:25:06,390 Having said that, we still don't know exactly what's stimulating the behavior. 435 00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:09,270 Blood tests are normal. The x -ray, clean. 436 00:25:09,570 --> 00:25:13,090 That leaves us with... The big question mark, what is it? 437 00:25:20,550 --> 00:25:24,710 There was nothing majorly wrong with Skylar, which is great. 438 00:25:25,070 --> 00:25:28,250 But at the same time, we still don't know what the problem is. 439 00:25:28,650 --> 00:25:33,070 So I'm hoping that we find that out. The syndrome is called hyperesthesia 440 00:25:33,070 --> 00:25:39,510 syndrome. The syndrome that we don't know exactly what the underlying cause 441 00:25:40,210 --> 00:25:44,110 Sometimes there can be a medical problem or it can be behavioral. 442 00:25:44,330 --> 00:25:50,150 What we can do is a trial of a medication called gabapentin. 443 00:25:50,570 --> 00:25:54,830 We'll give that some time. Definitely need to give me a call in a week or so 444 00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:57,410 let me know if we're making any headway at all. 445 00:25:57,650 --> 00:26:02,310 So going from this point on, it might be a little bit easier for me to take 446 00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:07,110 Skylar to the vet because I had an experience that wasn't nearly as 447 00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:09,170 I thought it would be. How do you feel? 448 00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:13,680 I feel good about the fact that we are going forward and we're narrowing things 449 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:20,220 down. Hyperesthesia is one of those things that as long as the symptoms 450 00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:22,660 abating, we're happy. 451 00:26:23,220 --> 00:26:26,220 Number one homework, of course, is medication. 452 00:26:26,660 --> 00:26:31,360 As we introduce gabapentin, I want Christy to log not just the attacks, 453 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,480 time of day they happen, and the context. 454 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,880 Hopefully, we're going to start seeing these incidents go down. Number two is 455 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,220 your more personal log, and that's going to be with your homework camera. And I 456 00:26:42,220 --> 00:26:44,780 want you to experiment vocally with touch. 457 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:50,800 So if you're doing your sky sky, just be observant. When you do it, what do you 458 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,840 notice? We have pupils that dilate, ears that flatten, tails that flap all over 459 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,660 the place, and a cat who lashes out eventually. 460 00:26:57,980 --> 00:27:00,640 All of these things are not random. 461 00:27:01,050 --> 00:27:05,310 There's something that connects them, and Christy is the key to this whole 462 00:27:05,310 --> 00:27:07,610 puzzle. Let's talk about being mindful of the space. 463 00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:11,190 I'd like you to start looking into the vertical world. 464 00:27:11,570 --> 00:27:16,390 Modification to the space will give Skylar something to do, just like 465 00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:19,690 When she was playing with kittens, she wasn't thinking about her own life. She 466 00:27:19,690 --> 00:27:20,569 wasn't getting depressed. 467 00:27:20,570 --> 00:27:24,750 Same thing with Skylar. If she's looking at birds, if she's focusing out into 468 00:27:24,750 --> 00:27:26,970 the world, she's not thinking about her tail. 469 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,680 I just want you to take that mindful look at the space and change things, 470 00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:38,020 So far, everything Jackson has had me do has helped, so I'm going to stick with 471 00:27:38,020 --> 00:27:40,760 that and just do exactly what he says I should do. 472 00:27:43,740 --> 00:27:44,740 Thank you. 473 00:27:48,990 --> 00:27:52,950 Last time I was here, I met Stacy and Gary's cat, Quincy. I left them with a 474 00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:56,650 of homework to help stop Quincy's restless antics and his problem with 475 00:27:56,650 --> 00:28:00,310 outside the box. I hope that Stacy and Gary followed through. If they haven't, 476 00:28:00,310 --> 00:28:01,690 my claws are coming out today. 477 00:28:02,390 --> 00:28:06,490 Hey, how's it going, Jack? Good, how you doing? Oh, God, I've been doing so much 478 00:28:06,490 --> 00:28:09,830 better. Oh, there you go. The second I walk in, I hear good news. 479 00:28:10,030 --> 00:28:13,070 So you're going to see some big changes around here. The toy, the cat tree. 480 00:28:13,570 --> 00:28:15,430 It's like a cat lives here. It's beautiful. 481 00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:20,510 You guys were great sending in a lot of stuff for me. What I wanted to do is go 482 00:28:20,510 --> 00:28:22,690 over it with you and see what's going down. 483 00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:47,950 Love it. Love it. 484 00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:51,950 How do we like our new cat tree? King of the world now. 485 00:28:52,210 --> 00:28:53,210 King of the world. 486 00:28:53,450 --> 00:28:57,710 Here is one of the toys that we're going to use. So maybe away from energy. 487 00:28:58,110 --> 00:29:01,810 We'll see if it works. Looking at Gary and Stacey's video homework, you start 488 00:29:01,810 --> 00:29:05,050 see the progress. Gary at the beginning is like, Quincy. Quincy, go. 489 00:29:05,250 --> 00:29:09,830 And then that turns into, what can I do for Quincy? And Gary gets it now and 490 00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:11,650 resolves the problem. That was wonderful. 491 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,319 Let's talk about play. 492 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,180 I need you to step it up a little bit. Because right now, it's like fishing for 493 00:29:17,180 --> 00:29:19,020 Quincy. We need him to move. 494 00:29:19,220 --> 00:29:22,920 It's really important that you recognize that just because you give your cats 495 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,640 activities doesn't mean you're done. You have to keep upping the level of those 496 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,840 activities. Your cat's going to figure out the puzzle, and then it's boring. 497 00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:33,520 Biggest things that you've noticed in terms of change in Quincy? I think the 498 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,180 level of anxiety in Quincy has gone down because we're not locking him in the 499 00:29:38,180 --> 00:29:39,180 bathroom anymore. 500 00:29:39,390 --> 00:29:42,730 That completely ended. He doesn't knock things off the countertops anymore. 501 00:29:43,370 --> 00:29:47,690 The cup holder that you told us to get, we did it, and he starts knocking at the 502 00:29:47,690 --> 00:29:50,670 cup in the cup holder, and you'll see that the cup's not going anywhere, and 503 00:29:50,670 --> 00:29:52,070 then he'll just kind of be like, ah. 504 00:29:52,550 --> 00:29:55,910 What did you guys do? I take the little toy with the feather, which she loves, 505 00:29:56,090 --> 00:29:59,410 and play with him, and we kind of have like a little routine. Instead of 506 00:29:59,410 --> 00:30:02,690 him away, I take 10, 15 minutes out of my day, and it's all better. 507 00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:07,170 You've got to be fairly relieved of that. I am very, very pleased with some 508 00:30:07,170 --> 00:30:11,510 the changes I've seen with Gary and Quincy. Gary, I can hear the change in 509 00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:17,190 voice. You hear this place where you go from being annoyed to problem solving. 510 00:30:17,390 --> 00:30:18,990 That's really admirable stuff. 511 00:30:20,190 --> 00:30:20,969 That's amazing. 512 00:30:20,970 --> 00:30:24,190 No, because it's not easy. You know, the last time I was here, this was 513 00:30:24,190 --> 00:30:27,810 obviously a point of friction between the two of you. Everything cool in terms 514 00:30:27,810 --> 00:30:28,629 of your communication? 515 00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:31,850 Much better since we figured out the whole, you know, not yelling about 516 00:30:31,850 --> 00:30:33,180 issue. Hooray for love. 517 00:30:33,380 --> 00:30:34,380 Yeah. 518 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,880 So we've been going through everything that worked. What is not working? 519 00:30:40,140 --> 00:30:41,140 Well, the big issue. 520 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,160 Pooping on the floor. 521 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,680 Really? So litter level didn't do it. The only thing we changed with the 522 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,020 box is we got the new mat, and it just makes it easier for me to clean up. 523 00:30:49,220 --> 00:30:52,580 There's one thing left. Of course, it's got to be the poop. And there's still 524 00:30:52,580 --> 00:30:56,920 poop happening outside the box. There's still Gary not liking picking it up. I'm 525 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:57,920 not picking it up. It's soft. 526 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,920 Yeah. Still got that problem. 527 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,360 I'm still... 528 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,300 A little perplexed, but we'll go in there later on and see if there's 529 00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:10,260 that I'm missing. What I want to do now is just take a look around the house and 530 00:31:10,260 --> 00:31:13,460 leave you guys off on a good note, okay? Let's take a look. I want to start 531 00:31:13,460 --> 00:31:14,460 here. 532 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,100 So this is where we put Quincy's puzzle because this is where he re -saw the 533 00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:22,080 havoc. Look at how his body is turning towards something more exciting. 534 00:31:22,460 --> 00:31:23,460 And look at him go, man. 535 00:31:23,660 --> 00:31:24,559 All right. 536 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,560 Great stuff. 537 00:31:26,260 --> 00:31:27,920 Let's keep moving here. Okay. 538 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,000 I just love looking around. There's toys everywhere. 539 00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:36,820 And you got to smell poop. I do. I was about to say something. 540 00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:39,640 Where's the litter box? It's over here, isn't it? 541 00:31:40,180 --> 00:31:43,020 And bullseye. The poop looks good. 542 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,060 What the hell? 543 00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:47,380 Oh, my God. 544 00:31:54,620 --> 00:31:56,500 This always tells me. 545 00:31:56,780 --> 00:32:01,560 that there's something that screams I'm not comfortable. It just screams it. Um, 546 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:07,640 what the hell? Can you give me something like a tissue or... Thank you. 547 00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:10,540 Oh, boy, some days my job just rocks. 548 00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:11,900 You guys see that? 549 00:32:12,460 --> 00:32:13,339 What's that? 550 00:32:13,340 --> 00:32:18,620 Hair? No, that's not a hair. What is that? That looks to me like a string. 551 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:19,939 Oh, my God! 552 00:32:19,940 --> 00:32:24,820 He pooped out a big, long hunk of string, and there's more in the poop. 553 00:32:25,180 --> 00:32:29,720 My theory at this point is that Quincy is going outside the box whenever he 554 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,100 ingests something foreign. 555 00:32:31,340 --> 00:32:35,460 Remember, cats are going to avoid boxes if something in there is a bad 556 00:32:35,460 --> 00:32:39,840 association. I go in this place, and it hurts. I'm not going to go in it, but I 557 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,640 will go right outside it. I think it's coming from this. Okay. You have no idea 558 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,020 how lucky you are right now, because these are the kind of things that send 559 00:32:48,020 --> 00:32:50,140 to the emergency bed at 2 o 'clock in the morning. Yes. Right. 560 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,340 There's a condition called pica. It's this compulsion to chew inanimate 561 00:32:54,340 --> 00:32:58,160 that unfortunately affects a lot of cats. So you've got to pica -proof the 562 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,740 house. For cat guardians at home who are dealing with cats that are ingesting 563 00:33:01,740 --> 00:33:05,920 foreign materials, unfortunately, we don't know a lot about what causes cats 564 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,100 do it. But if they get rid of those ingestible materials, then he's probably 565 00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:11,300 going to go back into the box. 566 00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:15,840 How lucky is it that he craps on the floor when I happen to be here? 567 00:33:17,290 --> 00:33:21,810 Thank you, buddy. In my world, finding pieces of crap with clothes in it is 568 00:33:21,810 --> 00:33:22,850 actually a good day. 569 00:33:23,150 --> 00:33:27,450 He's excited about poop. You should be excited about poop because I think we 570 00:33:27,450 --> 00:33:28,490 just cracked the code. 571 00:33:28,690 --> 00:33:33,410 It's really a relief to find out there is an actual cause for Quincy not being 572 00:33:33,410 --> 00:33:34,410 consistent in the box. 573 00:33:34,650 --> 00:33:38,050 There's something we can actually do by changing the things that we're leaving 574 00:33:38,050 --> 00:33:39,570 out that could cause Quincy problems. 575 00:33:40,250 --> 00:33:43,770 I think we've figured out what's going on with Quincy, and you guys have done 576 00:33:43,770 --> 00:33:48,430 amazing work all the way around. Now, we still have one issue, which is that 577 00:33:48,430 --> 00:33:53,770 Gary does not like cleaning that up. Sometimes it's like runny, and it's 578 00:33:54,490 --> 00:33:56,150 I might have a solution for that. 579 00:33:56,370 --> 00:34:00,450 Here we go. All you got to do is this. Now, the big complaint, however, was the 580 00:34:00,450 --> 00:34:01,429 goopiness. Yeah. 581 00:34:01,430 --> 00:34:03,830 Hence, we have this. It's a poop freezer. 582 00:34:04,130 --> 00:34:08,389 Oh, wow. That's right, man. First, you freeze it. Yeah. Then you scoop it. Oh, 583 00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:12,889 wow. And officially, Gary has no more excuses. Here we go. I bequeath to you 584 00:34:12,889 --> 00:34:14,510 freezer and the scooper. 585 00:34:14,909 --> 00:34:15,909 Get to work, dude. 586 00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:19,210 Yeah. All right. Let me see if I can do this myself. Now, when you pick up the 587 00:34:19,210 --> 00:34:20,429 poop, it's going to be frozen. 588 00:34:20,889 --> 00:34:24,530 Listen, in all seriousness, you guys did a great job. Thank you. I think this 589 00:34:24,530 --> 00:34:28,850 case really presents a crystal clear vision of the right and the wrong. The 590 00:34:28,850 --> 00:34:32,969 wrong is you get frustrated and lock your cat in a two -by -two bathroom. 591 00:34:33,230 --> 00:34:38,969 The right is you solve the problem. People think that the cat can't drill a 592 00:34:38,969 --> 00:34:41,710 in your relationship. The cat can. The cat did. 593 00:34:41,969 --> 00:34:44,570 And Gary and Stacey have patched that hole up pretty nicely. 594 00:34:46,860 --> 00:34:50,679 In my years of working with cats, I've seen them contribute to our well -being 595 00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:53,760 in multiple, unexpected, inspirational ways. 596 00:34:53,980 --> 00:34:54,980 And now you can too. 597 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,480 It's my pleasure to share some of their stories with you. Welcome to a little 598 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,000 slice of my cat from heaven. 599 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,920 My name is Michelle Hoffman, and I am the president and founder of Milo 600 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,960 Sanctuary and Rescue. 601 00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:12,680 Ziggy came into my life last December when she was tossed from a moving car. 602 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,960 she had been paralyzed from the waist down. 603 00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:19,420 And she is an amazing, amazing creature. 604 00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:20,259 Hey, guys. 605 00:35:20,260 --> 00:35:22,400 Hi. How are you? I'm Jackson. 606 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:23,598 I'm Michelle. 607 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,980 Michelle. And this is Ziggy. Ziggy. You went through a lot. She did. But what 608 00:35:27,980 --> 00:35:31,620 she has brought into my life far outweighs whatever I can do for her. 609 00:35:31,980 --> 00:35:35,540 Ziggy has taught me so much. Ziggy has taught me to never give up. 610 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,040 defy all odds, and to keep going through the toughest time. 611 00:35:40,380 --> 00:35:45,120 And I am inspired every day by her strength and her ability to overcome 612 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,820 everything that's been thrown at her. 613 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,620 All right, come on. Let's see. 614 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,300 Now, she can get along just fine, right? Yes. Ziggy is great, but once in a 615 00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:59,740 while, Ziggy has little meltdowns. Come on, Zig. She will hiss, growl a little 616 00:35:59,740 --> 00:36:01,640 bit, and so she has her moment. 617 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,140 She gets grumpy. Yes, she does. 618 00:36:04,650 --> 00:36:07,790 You've got to remember, here's a one -year -old cat. She's a teenager. 619 00:36:08,030 --> 00:36:11,450 She's got that energy. Just because she doesn't have the mobility doesn't mean 620 00:36:11,450 --> 00:36:16,270 she doesn't have the urges. And I am sure that Ziggy experiences a lot of 621 00:36:16,270 --> 00:36:21,070 frustration not being able to get around the way she needs to. But I will do 622 00:36:21,070 --> 00:36:22,210 anything to fix the problem. 623 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,280 It was amazing spending time with Michelle and Ziggy last time, and we had 624 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,680 problems with Ziggy's attitude because she doesn't have mobility. 625 00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:36,920 So I've got a surprise. 626 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,620 They're going to love it. I guarantee they're going to love it. Well, hello 627 00:36:40,620 --> 00:36:44,820 there. Oh, hey, Jackson. How are you? It's good to see you. It's good to see 628 00:36:44,820 --> 00:36:45,499 you, too. 629 00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:46,500 How you been? Good. 630 00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:49,840 And Ziggy, how you been? I got something for you. 631 00:36:50,180 --> 00:36:52,480 I loved Ziggy's story. 632 00:36:52,890 --> 00:36:57,630 Loved everything about Ziggy. Oh, my God, Jack. I couldn't be happier that I 633 00:36:57,630 --> 00:36:59,330 to just help a little bit. 634 00:37:02,450 --> 00:37:06,550 Now, you want to suit up? Let's do it. Let's go. Let's do it. Come on. 635 00:37:07,110 --> 00:37:10,750 It's okay, Ziggy. Life is going to get really good really soon. 636 00:37:11,350 --> 00:37:12,350 You ready? 637 00:37:13,110 --> 00:37:18,050 You ready? All right. I know. Seeing Ziggy in this new cart, moving around. 638 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,140 The end game for me. I mean, the drive was there. The desire was there. We just 639 00:37:23,140 --> 00:37:25,000 had to give her literally the support. 640 00:37:25,220 --> 00:37:26,640 This cart is fantastic. 641 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,080 Look, she needs a little bit of practice in this. And then I think we got it. 642 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,340 This cart, it's going to be fantastic. 643 00:37:32,660 --> 00:37:36,840 I can take her more places. She can be out more. And there's going to be no 644 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,840 stopping this girl now. 645 00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:42,200 We've come a long way. This cat only needed the ability to move from A to B. 646 00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:45,680 Hopefully, this cart can fix that frustration. 647 00:37:46,330 --> 00:37:50,450 You meet Viggy, and your perspective is going to change. And look at her. It's 648 00:37:50,450 --> 00:37:51,450 an amazing inspiration. 649 00:37:51,850 --> 00:37:52,850 Good girl. 650 00:37:57,710 --> 00:38:02,530 I am pretty pumped up. I'm heading in to talk to Christy about Skylar. 651 00:38:02,770 --> 00:38:07,990 With feline hyperthesia syndrome, I gotta see that Skylar has become a 652 00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:12,930 more grounded. A little less attacking her own tail. A little less torturing 653 00:38:12,930 --> 00:38:14,310 Christy. I mean... 654 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,960 These things have to happen here. 655 00:38:20,340 --> 00:38:21,340 Well. Hi. 656 00:38:21,740 --> 00:38:25,980 You are just like, you're like glowing. Every time I come in, it's like a 657 00:38:25,980 --> 00:38:29,900 different person. Right? A little better each time, right? You know what? Let's 658 00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:33,820 get right into it. Because there's just so much that I want to talk to you 659 00:38:33,820 --> 00:38:37,420 about. So let's get to it. 660 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:42,540 So we're going to give Skylar her medicine. She's getting pretty good at 661 00:38:42,540 --> 00:38:43,820 let's see how she does this time. 662 00:38:44,730 --> 00:38:45,730 Aw, pumpkin. 663 00:38:46,990 --> 00:38:52,390 By and large, the attacks are down. The worst case scenario was three in one 664 00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:57,810 day. Okay, down from... 20 to 30, yeah. 20 to 30 were down to three? Constantly, 665 00:38:57,930 --> 00:38:59,370 yeah. Pretty cool, man. 666 00:38:59,590 --> 00:39:00,590 And Sunday she doesn't have any. 667 00:39:00,730 --> 00:39:04,830 On Sunday there was only one attack, and then Monday there was nothing. 668 00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:08,870 Tuesday there were two attacks, but they were right in the morning when Skylar 669 00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:11,070 was waiting for me to feed her. 670 00:39:11,310 --> 00:39:13,290 And that was the worst of all of them. 671 00:39:13,900 --> 00:39:16,660 Skylar is not attacking herself anymore. 672 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:22,680 Skylar is not attacking Christy. The medicine has done its job, and Christy 673 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,680 done her job. 674 00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:24,700 Good guy. 675 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,400 Guy? 676 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,920 All right, so the high -pitched voice doesn't work well. So you were testing 677 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,320 her. Yeah. That's fantastic. 678 00:39:32,580 --> 00:39:33,580 That's mindfulness. 679 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:35,240 So happy. 680 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:42,000 Yay! So happy on so many fronts. First of all, I mean, she's 681 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,720 completely... in trance with what's going on out there. 682 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:51,300 Pale is not moving. Her eyes are not dilated. Her ears aren't moving 683 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,740 So do you feel confident at this point that you know what's going on with her? 684 00:39:56,740 --> 00:39:58,240 Yes. Yes. 685 00:39:58,740 --> 00:39:59,740 Done. Completely. 686 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,120 This is a case study. 687 00:40:01,340 --> 00:40:06,160 This shows that if you focus the cat, present her with grounded energy, give 688 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,560 vertical space, and treat her with something like gabapentin, you go from 689 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,340 attacks a day to just about zero. 690 00:40:13,610 --> 00:40:20,030 Right now what we're seeing is Skylar being a normal cat, Christy. I know, 691 00:40:20,090 --> 00:40:21,090 right? 692 00:40:22,970 --> 00:40:27,810 I can't believe I just heard Jackson say that my cat is normal. 693 00:40:28,290 --> 00:40:30,070 That makes me so happy. 694 00:40:30,490 --> 00:40:31,810 I have a normal cat. 695 00:40:32,470 --> 00:40:34,190 Clearly, my work here is done. 696 00:40:34,410 --> 00:40:39,690 Yes. Before you go, though, I have something for you. 697 00:40:41,770 --> 00:40:42,770 Oh. 698 00:40:43,130 --> 00:40:44,930 It's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. 699 00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:55,890 I have something for you. 700 00:40:56,170 --> 00:41:00,550 This is a picture I made for you. Oh, my God. 701 00:41:00,930 --> 00:41:03,890 Oh. That's your baby. That's my baby. 702 00:41:04,270 --> 00:41:09,210 These are all the cats from the show that you've helped. Oh, my God. 703 00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:11,290 I can't even. 704 00:41:12,180 --> 00:41:14,800 Tell you how special this is. 705 00:41:15,020 --> 00:41:19,360 So Christy gives me this collage. And then, of course, there's a portrait of 706 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,020 cat, Benny, in the middle of it. Who inspired this whole thing? 707 00:41:23,380 --> 00:41:27,500 Oh, my God. I can't believe this. It's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. 708 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,780 Thank you so much. 709 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,820 I want him to remember all the people he's helped. 710 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,660 Not just me and Skylar, but everybody. 711 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,780 Why do you want to do that to me? 712 00:41:39,860 --> 00:41:42,180 You made me cry. I made you cry. 713 00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:44,520 Thank you. 714 00:41:45,340 --> 00:41:49,240 You deserve all that's coming, which is good. Thank you. 715 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,120 Thank you. 716 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,280 I promised that cat that I would do this. 717 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,140 And I know I've made a difference. 718 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,560 The hell isn't over yet. Go to the My Cap From Hell Facebook page for 719 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,360 GIFs and much more. 62427

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