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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,220 --> 00:00:04,080 This is Mickey's domain. 2 00:00:04,340 --> 00:00:09,240 If I were to leave all three cats alone, I would find a dead cat. 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,500 I work with animals all day, and for me not to be able to control my own 4 00:00:13,500 --> 00:00:16,500 animals, I just feel like I'm constantly being rejected. 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:18,860 Ow! You can't do this. 6 00:00:20,740 --> 00:00:22,380 Elsa's like a Tasmanian devil. 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,280 You shred my shower curtain. Just tore that up. 8 00:00:27,420 --> 00:00:28,420 Elsa. 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,760 This is a vacuum horse, you two. 10 00:00:30,980 --> 00:00:32,100 Every day she's back. 11 00:00:32,340 --> 00:00:33,340 Oh, Elsa. 12 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:39,020 No words can describe how much I love her, but I just need your help, man. I 13 00:00:39,020 --> 00:00:40,020 can't take this anymore. 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,580 I'm Grace. And I'm Mark. And we rescue Falling Cat. 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:46,940 He might fetch for you. 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,820 Oh my God, he totally expected that. 17 00:00:50,660 --> 00:00:51,720 I'm Jackson Galaxy. 18 00:00:52,100 --> 00:00:53,100 I am Cat. 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,400 The animal behavior that guardians call. 20 00:00:56,990 --> 00:00:58,430 And they're dealing with a difficult cat. 21 00:01:00,150 --> 00:01:01,350 Wow, he really got you. 22 00:01:02,530 --> 00:01:05,850 I'm out to prove that there is no such thing as a bad cat. 23 00:01:06,070 --> 00:01:08,510 Just a cat that needs my help. You did it. 24 00:01:09,390 --> 00:01:09,850 My 25 00:01:09,850 --> 00:01:20,850 name 26 00:01:20,850 --> 00:01:26,410 is Megan, and I live in Downey, California. 27 00:01:26,890 --> 00:01:30,550 My name is Kelly Holt. My name is Richard Holt. We have three cats in this 28 00:01:30,550 --> 00:01:36,790 house. There is Bear, and there's Ducky, who's super sweet, and then there's 29 00:01:36,790 --> 00:01:37,790 Mickey. 30 00:01:43,710 --> 00:01:48,090 He will launch himself at you and bite. 31 00:01:50,930 --> 00:01:53,250 I just feel like I'm constantly being rejected. 32 00:01:54,990 --> 00:01:57,330 I'm a pet groomer. That's what I do for a living. 33 00:01:57,550 --> 00:02:01,310 I work with animals all day, and for me not to be able to control my own animals 34 00:02:01,310 --> 00:02:02,970 is just kind of like a little bit of a defeat. 35 00:02:03,890 --> 00:02:08,550 The most concerning behavior that Miki shows is the aggression that he shows 36 00:02:08,550 --> 00:02:11,310 towards the other cat. He basically sees red. 37 00:02:13,890 --> 00:02:17,150 I have to keep them separated or else they will fight. 38 00:02:17,530 --> 00:02:19,150 This is Miki's domain. 39 00:02:20,110 --> 00:02:23,670 Miki is constantly locked up in my room. He's in there. 40 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,159 All day. 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,260 And then he has free run of the house at night. 42 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,780 We have to constantly be aware of which cats are locked up, which cat is out. 43 00:02:32,340 --> 00:02:33,339 Here we go. 44 00:02:33,340 --> 00:02:39,020 A huge fear of mine is that if I were to leave all three cats alone, I would 45 00:02:39,020 --> 00:02:40,980 find a dead cat when I came home. 46 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,160 It's gotten to a point where it's unbearable. 47 00:02:43,460 --> 00:02:47,640 It's not fair to have my family come home to this all the time. And they are 48 00:02:47,640 --> 00:02:51,660 cats. We can't do this. This is a big issue for our family. It's actually 49 00:02:51,660 --> 00:02:56,460 breaking us apart because Miki's behavior can actually injure somebody, 50 00:02:56,460 --> 00:02:57,460 has. 51 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,940 I've got one here and another puncture there. 52 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:08,680 Either the cats have to go, or Megan, you have to take the cats and find your 53 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:09,680 own place. 54 00:03:11,020 --> 00:03:14,140 It would break me if I had to move out or get rid of one of my cats. 55 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,360 It would break me. 56 00:03:16,140 --> 00:03:20,120 I will consider every possibility and every solution that Jackson gives me to 57 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,740 help these cats because I really need them. 58 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,380 This is a desperate cry for help. 59 00:03:29,860 --> 00:03:30,860 Hey. Hi. 60 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,660 How are you, Jack? Hi, I'm Megan. Megan, how are you doing? Thank you for having 61 00:03:34,660 --> 00:03:35,980 me. You're here. 62 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,880 Come on in. And look, we even have a cat. This is Bear. 63 00:03:39,620 --> 00:03:40,620 What's up, Bear? 64 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,320 Hi, Bear. 65 00:03:42,910 --> 00:03:45,930 He has the best personality out of all three. Not that you play favorites or 66 00:03:45,930 --> 00:03:47,170 anything. Right, no. 67 00:03:47,410 --> 00:03:51,150 So, let's sit down and start talking cat. 68 00:03:52,450 --> 00:03:54,050 I'm sorry. Feel me that arm. 69 00:03:54,690 --> 00:03:56,950 You don't think I could walk in here and not see this, right? 70 00:03:57,170 --> 00:03:58,270 No, this is daily. 71 00:03:58,750 --> 00:03:59,870 This is daily? Yeah. 72 00:04:00,850 --> 00:04:01,850 Miki did this. 73 00:04:02,570 --> 00:04:04,110 So, Miki is our problem child? 74 00:04:04,330 --> 00:04:09,250 Yes. Okay. What I did was I tried to hold Miki with bare hands on me. 75 00:04:10,609 --> 00:04:14,590 So if you were not to smell like bear, that wouldn't be a problem. Not at all. 76 00:04:14,590 --> 00:04:15,329 You could pick up Mickey. 77 00:04:15,330 --> 00:04:18,029 He never had litter mates, so I don't think he knows. 78 00:04:18,290 --> 00:04:19,290 How do you know he didn't have litter mates? 79 00:04:19,529 --> 00:04:20,529 I raised him. 80 00:04:21,050 --> 00:04:24,480 Bottle? Yeah. Oh, one of them. Yeah. One of them. 81 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,880 Cats that are raised from a very young age, a few days old, just by humans, I 82 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,120 call them bottled babies. And bottled babies don't have the experience with 83 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,300 other cats, so their social skills with other cats are just a little skewed. 84 00:04:36,380 --> 00:04:40,360 They also get over -attached to their humans. And I've got to keep an eye on 85 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,360 both of those things. 86 00:04:41,660 --> 00:04:43,520 He always had aggression tendencies? 87 00:04:43,780 --> 00:04:44,940 Since the other cats come. 88 00:04:45,180 --> 00:04:49,700 Ah, so we've got Bear and we've got Duchess, who just don't leave. 89 00:04:51,150 --> 00:04:52,950 Had a litter. I just thought they were so adorable. 90 00:04:53,430 --> 00:04:57,010 Okay, so what did the introduction look like? We tried putting up a little kitty 91 00:04:57,010 --> 00:05:00,890 gate, giving them food, and Mickey, he just wouldn't do it. 92 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,260 I believe in introducing cats through scent. A great way to do this is to feed 93 00:05:05,260 --> 00:05:08,300 them on opposite sides of a baby gate so they begin to make positive 94 00:05:08,300 --> 00:05:10,380 associations with the scent of the other cat. 95 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:15,240 But you need to make sure to start with the cats far apart. It looks like Megan 96 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,240 really rushed this process. 97 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,180 And then I would try removing the gate and Bear will get closer and closer to 98 00:05:21,180 --> 00:05:24,780 Miki. And Miki will hiss and walk away from Bear. 99 00:05:24,980 --> 00:05:28,180 And Bear will follow. And that's when the pfft happens. 100 00:05:29,380 --> 00:05:34,200 So Miki has given him every chance in the world to back up, right? So now I'm 101 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,540 getting the fact that it's actually Bear that's the problem, not Miki. 102 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,560 What? Wait, what? 103 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,380 No, no. You don't see it that way? 104 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,880 Bear is a little troublemaker. He looks for anything that's fun, and Miki is a 105 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,680 lot of fun. The thing is, fun for Bear is not fun for everyone, Miki included. 106 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:53,040 Now Miki's nowhere to be found right now. Where's he at? 107 00:05:53,260 --> 00:05:56,340 He is locked in my room underneath my blanket. 108 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,060 Now, one thing I think is a really huge problem with Mickey, he's in this small 109 00:06:01,060 --> 00:06:03,600 bedroom. He will cling to me like a little child. 110 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,960 Don't forget, Megan raised him from birth. All he knows is Megan, and that's 111 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,580 healthy. He has to be separated from the other two. 112 00:06:11,940 --> 00:06:16,560 When you settle into a routine where one cat is sequestered all day long in a 113 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,500 room, then they come out, then you sequester the other cat, it's dangerous. 114 00:06:20,780 --> 00:06:24,800 Because when that one cat comes out here, they're treating this as a 115 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:25,800 hostile territory. 116 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,880 You guys cool with having these three cats live like this for the rest of 117 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,960 lives? No, not at all. This is not workable. We're always on alert. 118 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,760 One thing that we usually boil down to at the end of the conversation is you 119 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,100 need to look for your own place and take the cats out. 120 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:41,600 Oh. 121 00:06:42,580 --> 00:06:47,160 Okay. Tears usually come out at that point because I just feel like there's 122 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,840 other option, really. I'm feeling like this is my last chance, really. 123 00:06:52,540 --> 00:06:54,540 I'm just kind of really hoping this works. 124 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,920 I mean, you talk about high stakes. It's not just the cats that are going to get 125 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,980 rehomed in this situation. It's their daughter, too. So I'm going to work as 126 00:07:00,980 --> 00:07:03,200 hard as I can to prevent that outcome from happening. 127 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,880 There's our buddy. Oh, Bear, I brought your friend. In the meantime, I've got 128 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:07,859 see the situation. 129 00:07:07,860 --> 00:07:11,500 So I want to set up an environment where I can see what's going on. So I use 130 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:13,400 pillows to block off all the hiding spots. 131 00:07:14,580 --> 00:07:16,260 Hi, Mickey, my friend. Hello? 132 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,240 Where are you going to hit me? 133 00:07:20,609 --> 00:07:22,050 Okay, buddy, stop it. 134 00:07:22,710 --> 00:07:26,690 I can tell right away by observing Miki that he's a defensive cat. He only 135 00:07:26,690 --> 00:07:27,910 attacks when he feels threatened. 136 00:07:28,250 --> 00:07:29,250 Here comes Bear. 137 00:07:30,550 --> 00:07:31,550 Here comes Bear. 138 00:07:37,170 --> 00:07:41,510 Look at that. You think that that's this little innocent move what he's doing? 139 00:07:41,870 --> 00:07:48,550 He is blocking off all of Miki's exit points. He is just trying to stir up 140 00:07:48,550 --> 00:07:49,550 trouble right now. 141 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,360 Bear is just looking at that dead end going, you got to come out sooner or 142 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,460 later, man. And when you come out, we're going to have fun. 143 00:07:55,740 --> 00:07:57,120 Okay, so here's what we're going to do. 144 00:07:57,460 --> 00:07:59,860 I am actually going to lead Bear over. 145 00:08:00,100 --> 00:08:00,859 With a toy. 146 00:08:00,860 --> 00:08:06,700 And then my goal is to see if I can keep his attention away from that toy, 147 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,960 right? And keep him on the non -breathing toy, the appropriate victim. 148 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,820 I drag him on in here. Come on, come on, come on, buddy. 149 00:08:14,300 --> 00:08:17,220 Now I'm going to bring him right over there. 150 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,440 Come on over. 151 00:08:19,210 --> 00:08:20,210 There he goes. 152 00:08:26,830 --> 00:08:28,270 Look at him. He's making that choice. 153 00:08:29,470 --> 00:08:31,210 Feather or Mickey? 154 00:08:33,950 --> 00:08:34,929 Feather. Mickey. 155 00:08:34,929 --> 00:08:36,350 Feather. Feather. 156 00:08:38,370 --> 00:08:39,370 Feather. 157 00:08:40,230 --> 00:08:41,149 That's amazing. 158 00:08:41,150 --> 00:08:42,150 Good boy. 159 00:08:46,410 --> 00:08:50,570 He doesn't care about Miki at all. He cares about that feather hanging off of 160 00:08:50,570 --> 00:08:52,250 that toy, and he wants to kill it. 161 00:08:52,450 --> 00:08:56,590 If we can just burn Bear out for appropriate play, he'll stop provoking 162 00:08:56,670 --> 00:09:00,670 Miki will learn that he can relax around Bear because he's just not getting 163 00:09:00,670 --> 00:09:02,430 stalked. This is huge. 164 00:09:02,850 --> 00:09:05,090 Let's go ahead and put Miki back in your room. Come on, Miki. 165 00:09:06,910 --> 00:09:09,350 There. Can you be cool for a second? 166 00:09:09,770 --> 00:09:14,570 If Bear can just leave Miki alone, and Miki can then, in turn, summon the nerve 167 00:09:14,570 --> 00:09:18,850 to move past Bear, then these two cats have taken their first step towards true 168 00:09:18,850 --> 00:09:19,850 peace. 169 00:09:21,190 --> 00:09:22,190 Miki? 170 00:09:24,090 --> 00:09:28,610 Go ahead, Miki. If Jackson can't help this situation, I'm going to have to 171 00:09:28,610 --> 00:09:31,530 either move out or I would have to re -home. 172 00:09:32,270 --> 00:09:36,070 And both of those situations would just break my heart. It would be 173 00:09:36,070 --> 00:09:37,070 catastrophic. 174 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,800 When I see Bear is blocking off the entrance for Miki to go back in the 175 00:09:42,980 --> 00:09:45,060 I'm thinking something's going to happen. 176 00:09:45,580 --> 00:09:46,580 Come on. 177 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,120 There's going to be a fight. There's going to be a brawl. 178 00:09:59,780 --> 00:10:01,880 Let's go ahead and put Miki back in your room. Come on, Miki. 179 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,200 Bear, can you be cool for a second? 180 00:10:06,780 --> 00:10:10,680 It's an understatement to say that Miki and Bear don't share the same space 181 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:11,680 well. 182 00:10:12,860 --> 00:10:16,940 But I've seen some progress here today because I saw that Bear can be more 183 00:10:16,940 --> 00:10:19,240 interested in a toy than he is in Miki. 184 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:24,480 But as these two cats go whisker to whisker, we're facing a potential 185 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:25,480 moment here. 186 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,220 Um, Miki? And I have no idea how it's going to go. 187 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:30,600 Come on. 188 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:31,760 Something's going to happen. 189 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,100 There's going to be a fight. There's going to be a brawl. 190 00:10:36,270 --> 00:10:37,269 Go ahead, Mickey. 191 00:10:37,270 --> 00:10:42,430 Come on. If I had to get rid of one of my cats, that would be the worst. 192 00:10:43,050 --> 00:10:45,030 And that just terrifies me. 193 00:10:45,330 --> 00:10:47,390 And it makes me feel like I've just failed. 194 00:10:47,730 --> 00:10:48,750 Come here, my friend. 195 00:10:49,990 --> 00:10:51,450 Mickey has to go by Bear. 196 00:10:51,790 --> 00:10:53,150 That is some... What? 197 00:10:53,670 --> 00:10:54,670 Uh -huh. 198 00:10:55,270 --> 00:10:56,270 Oh, my God. 199 00:10:56,610 --> 00:10:57,569 Come here, baby. 200 00:10:57,570 --> 00:11:00,990 It just completely blows my mind when I see that happen because I'm not used to 201 00:11:00,990 --> 00:11:03,790 those two cats acting together like that. They are always... 202 00:11:04,060 --> 00:11:06,260 on the hunt with each other. There's always an issue. 203 00:11:06,540 --> 00:11:09,560 I don't think I've seen you smile that big in a long time. 204 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,900 I know, like, there's hope. There is hope. There is hope. 205 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,160 Bear is too tired from playing to strike out at Miki. 206 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:23,300 Miki has just watched Bear play, so he knows this cat is capable of something 207 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:27,820 else and just walks right by him. Their relationship changes on the spot. 208 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,120 I'm going to give you guys some homework now. I wanted... to no longer be your 209 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,540 room at space camp for Mickey. 210 00:11:32,740 --> 00:11:37,440 Because you are the one and only thing that represents security to him, right? 211 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:42,260 I'd like to start doing the swap out with Mickey being in that sunroom. He 212 00:11:42,260 --> 00:11:46,040 look through the safety of this window and do what he did today, which is 213 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,520 observe. Number two, the opposite side feeding thing. 214 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,580 We're going to go back to that again, okay? 215 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,460 Now, here's the key to that. 216 00:11:53,870 --> 00:11:57,170 We're not going to feed them at that baby gate. Mealtime will happen on 217 00:11:57,170 --> 00:12:01,330 side of a baby gate. They can back it up as far as they have to as long as these 218 00:12:01,330 --> 00:12:05,250 cats see each other, eat, and walk away again. And the goal is to get them 219 00:12:05,250 --> 00:12:08,490 closer and closer until the gate is no longer necessary. 220 00:12:09,090 --> 00:12:12,910 Finally, we're going to start doing play therapy with the cats separately. Play 221 00:12:12,910 --> 00:12:18,290 until they're tired. With Miki, his play raises confidence. He can smell the 222 00:12:18,290 --> 00:12:19,850 other cats but still catch his prey. 223 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,840 And Bear has got to get tired before he ever sees Miki. We saw the results of 224 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,820 that today. That can happen every single day, and it needs to. 225 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,360 That sounds awesome. That deep breath, was that an overwhelmed breath, or was 226 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,460 that okay? No, that was a relief breath. We've got something we can do to move 227 00:12:34,460 --> 00:12:37,680 forward. Good. What I'm looking for when I come back here for my next visit is 228 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:41,180 very simple. I want to see Miki gain the kind of confidence that he can just 229 00:12:41,180 --> 00:12:45,160 walk in this room, sit on the top of this couch, and watch that foolish Bear 230 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,720 play with that toy. And I need Megan to be fully aware. 231 00:12:49,290 --> 00:12:52,630 of how over -connected she is to Mickey. I'll see you guys in a few weeks, okay? 232 00:12:52,770 --> 00:12:53,890 Thank you. Take care. 233 00:12:54,370 --> 00:12:58,370 I'm extremely invested in doing the homework so that Mickey can get better 234 00:12:58,370 --> 00:13:00,850 Bear can get better and everyone can be harmonious. 235 00:13:01,090 --> 00:13:06,630 Because if Jackson can't help us, that would be the worst -case scenario. 236 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,400 My name is Chris. 237 00:13:20,740 --> 00:13:23,060 This is a single man with a wild cat. 238 00:13:23,940 --> 00:13:28,200 Ah. Her nickname is El Elsa, like El Nino. There's going to be a storm around 239 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,600 when she's in there. You know what I mean? 240 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,140 This is a vacuum for her to use, dude. 241 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,780 You shred my sour curds. You tore that up. 242 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,120 Yo. 243 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,600 Come in the bathroom. This is what I usually see. 244 00:13:41,420 --> 00:13:44,600 She just does stuff that I think normal cats don't do. 245 00:13:44,990 --> 00:13:48,470 One time I was cooking, she jumped on the stove, took a hot link out and ran 246 00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:49,470 with it. 247 00:13:49,730 --> 00:13:52,370 The other day she was drinking the toilet water like a dog. 248 00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:57,710 She likes to jump in the sink, taking the sponge out of the sink. I wake up in 249 00:13:57,710 --> 00:14:00,430 the middle of the night and the sponge will be right next to her. 250 00:14:00,990 --> 00:14:03,090 Every day she's like, ah, Elsa. 251 00:14:03,590 --> 00:14:09,410 Elsa's like a Tasmanian devil. No words can describe how much I love her, but I 252 00:14:09,410 --> 00:14:11,390 just need help, man. I can't take this anymore. 253 00:14:16,970 --> 00:14:20,570 So I'm on my way to East L .A. to meet up with Chris and his cat Elsa. 254 00:14:20,890 --> 00:14:25,190 Chris is a bouncer at a karaoke bar. He's a really nice guy. But in terms of 255 00:14:25,190 --> 00:14:27,410 scent, a little not so much. 256 00:14:27,750 --> 00:14:32,750 It looks like Elsa needs a little introduction to human scent, and Chris 257 00:14:32,750 --> 00:14:35,670 little introduction to cat scent, and I am on my way. 258 00:14:37,830 --> 00:14:40,990 Hey, Chris. Hey, Jackson. How are you doing? Good, man. How are you doing? All 259 00:14:40,990 --> 00:14:42,550 right. Good to see you. Thank you. 260 00:14:42,770 --> 00:14:44,150 I walk into this house. 261 00:14:44,570 --> 00:14:48,410 And I see not a whole lot of anything. There's nothing that says a cat lives 262 00:14:48,410 --> 00:14:49,590 here at all. 263 00:14:50,070 --> 00:14:51,770 I know it's going to be a long day, man. 264 00:14:52,070 --> 00:14:54,550 Well, I adopted this cat about six months ago. 265 00:14:54,940 --> 00:14:57,600 You got her from the shelter? Yes. Was it one of those, like, love at first 266 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:58,379 sight things? 267 00:14:58,380 --> 00:15:02,120 Something like that. She had a gleam in her eye that caught my attention because 268 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,780 she has, like, a crossed eye. When I looked at her, she kind of gave me that 269 00:15:05,780 --> 00:15:07,000 look, and I fell in love. 270 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,700 Right on, man. Right on. Have you had cats before? 271 00:15:09,980 --> 00:15:13,400 Yeah, I grew up with cats all my life. You know, as a kid, my grandmother, we 272 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:14,900 have a colony of cats in the backyard. 273 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:16,760 Yeah, 274 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:17,960 we got a lot of cats. 275 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,880 I mean, the problem is that Chris is taking the approach that he had as a kid 276 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,020 with feral cats and bringing it to Elsa, which means he's doing nothing. He's 277 00:15:26,020 --> 00:15:29,300 just letting her run rampant without offering her anything in return. 278 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,700 Ever since I got her, man, she won't listen to me. How old is he? I adopted 279 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:34,619 when she was a baby. 280 00:15:34,620 --> 00:15:38,240 Hey, look, Chris has a huge heart. That you can tell. He took a kitten out of a 281 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,480 high -kill shelter here in L .A. He wanted to give that cat a good home, and 282 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,460 has. However, we want to make it so the rest of that cat's life is a good one. 283 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,760 What the hell is that, Chris? 284 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:50,880 Oh! 285 00:15:53,960 --> 00:16:00,650 You got... evidence of what 286 00:16:00,650 --> 00:16:03,310 she's done to your place, that will help me a ton. 287 00:16:04,150 --> 00:16:06,030 What the hell is that, Chris? 288 00:16:07,050 --> 00:16:08,530 Is that like a turkey tin? 289 00:16:10,070 --> 00:16:11,070 Hell yeah. 290 00:16:13,350 --> 00:16:14,350 Wow, 291 00:16:15,590 --> 00:16:18,130 man. So we're starting to swear one here. 292 00:16:18,630 --> 00:16:20,910 So I said, hey, let's go Thanksgiving. 293 00:16:21,490 --> 00:16:25,130 If that can hold a 45 -pound turkey, it can hold else's turd. 294 00:16:25,650 --> 00:16:30,720 If you've got to ask me, Why a cat doesn't want to go in a turkey pan? 295 00:16:31,060 --> 00:16:32,520 You should get a fish. 296 00:16:33,540 --> 00:16:37,700 Well, that's kind of an easy fix, man. I mean, it's called a litter box. 297 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,960 We should introduce you to one, man, because that's never going to work. 298 00:16:43,180 --> 00:16:44,960 Number one, it's too small. 299 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,840 Number two, it's made of metal. So when she goes to scratch it, that feeling, 300 00:16:50,100 --> 00:16:51,820 the fact that you are so... 301 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,620 Lucky that she's using the litter box, man. The fact that she's done him a 302 00:16:55,620 --> 00:16:59,380 by pooping and peeing in that turkey pan is a cat miracle. 303 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,760 You know how you have cords and stuff like that? 304 00:17:03,100 --> 00:17:05,060 She'll be chewing on the back of these cords. 305 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,280 Yeah, man. This is what I worry about. They start chewing on stuff like this, 306 00:17:09,339 --> 00:17:12,150 man. It can be really dangerous for them. 307 00:17:12,369 --> 00:17:18,250 I've known many a cat, man, who's gotten electrocuted. So it's something we do 308 00:17:18,250 --> 00:17:19,329 have to watch out for. 309 00:17:19,569 --> 00:17:23,089 But this is the kind of damage she can do, huh? Yes, sir. She does it a lot? 310 00:17:23,310 --> 00:17:27,670 Man, she chews on it like a snack, man. Fruit roller or something like that, 311 00:17:27,770 --> 00:17:28,770 man. 312 00:17:29,050 --> 00:17:35,870 If you're going to present your cat with this amazing gift and call it a vacuum 313 00:17:35,870 --> 00:17:38,570 cleaner cord, see, this is where the problem is. 314 00:17:39,050 --> 00:17:43,590 I'm looking around the place, and I'm looking for something that's not a 315 00:17:44,350 --> 00:17:45,350 That's a cat toy. 316 00:17:45,670 --> 00:17:49,150 What do you got cat toy -wise? The cat toy I own is this right here, Jackson. 317 00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:51,830 Little cat spinny thing. 318 00:17:52,530 --> 00:17:57,930 Now, it's so funny, man, because you look at the vacuum cleaner cord, and you 319 00:17:57,930 --> 00:18:00,430 look at this, and this thing is like pristine. 320 00:18:00,710 --> 00:18:04,330 Yeah, she's only like, one night, man, she played when I got her like a kid. 321 00:18:04,550 --> 00:18:07,510 So, the thing is, though, here, hold this. 322 00:18:07,730 --> 00:18:08,730 Yeah. 323 00:18:09,290 --> 00:18:10,290 All right. 324 00:18:11,170 --> 00:18:17,790 This versus this, right? This has like a finite amount of possibilities, right? 325 00:18:17,890 --> 00:18:22,430 I hit the mouth. It goes like this. I'm done. I'm six months old, right? 326 00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:28,890 This can be taken, tossed around, you know, up and down, can be chewed, take 327 00:18:28,890 --> 00:18:30,770 anywhere. It becomes... 328 00:18:31,210 --> 00:18:36,110 A toy, right? Any self -respecting cat I know would reject that sad little cat 329 00:18:36,110 --> 00:18:40,570 toy for that sponge any day of the week. Thus, the symbol of the sponge in this 330 00:18:40,570 --> 00:18:46,710 house. Now, there's only so far that we're going to get here without Elsa 331 00:18:46,710 --> 00:18:48,430 actually coming out and saying hi to me. 332 00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:52,570 I mean, she's incredibly shy, doesn't like company at all, but anytime there's 333 00:18:52,570 --> 00:18:55,650 not company, she just runs wild and destroys the place. 334 00:18:56,700 --> 00:19:01,100 Hi, Elsa. How could you possibly be talking about a hyperactive, destroying 335 00:19:01,100 --> 00:19:05,040 things cat, man? This is the mellowest cat in the world. I'm going to break out 336 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,260 some toys out of my case here. 337 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,020 Oh, what is that? 338 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:12,479 Uh -oh. 339 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,480 What is that? 340 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:15,620 Elsa, what is that, honey? 341 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:17,780 Ah, I got a paw. 342 00:19:18,020 --> 00:19:18,719 There you go. 343 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:19,720 There you go. 344 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:26,690 Now, if he is... that before she turns into Tasmanian Devil every day, I'll 345 00:19:26,690 --> 00:19:27,629 to toy like this. 346 00:19:27,630 --> 00:19:29,250 I want to give you some homework. 347 00:19:29,550 --> 00:19:33,530 Now, the first thing is your schedule doesn't mean anything. 348 00:19:33,770 --> 00:19:35,450 It's about what you do when you get home. 349 00:19:36,030 --> 00:19:39,030 There's a technique I call boil and simmer. It's like when you're doing a 350 00:19:39,030 --> 00:19:40,710 recipe, you bring it to a boil and let it simmer. 351 00:19:40,970 --> 00:19:45,630 Same thing with her. You let her come to a boil, like play -wise, let her come 352 00:19:45,630 --> 00:19:48,390 down again. When she's done playing, out comes dinner. 353 00:19:48,780 --> 00:19:53,280 This is a technique to say hunt, catch, kill, eat. If they were out in the wild, 354 00:19:53,420 --> 00:19:56,300 that's exactly what they would do. By the time you leave the house to go to 355 00:19:56,300 --> 00:19:57,420 work, she's down. 356 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,200 You will not come back to a destroyed house. 357 00:20:00,460 --> 00:20:03,100 Me and Elsie are going to start this cat one -on -one homework. 358 00:20:03,300 --> 00:20:05,720 Me and Elsie are going to have a good time later on tonight. 359 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,560 I'm going to boil her. I'm going to simmer her. 360 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,860 You, I'll see you in a few weeks. Hold on, she's got to give you a handshake, 361 00:20:11,860 --> 00:20:15,340 too. Bye, baby. Have a good one, Jackie. All right, take care, guys. 362 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:16,059 All right. 363 00:20:16,060 --> 00:20:20,960 The most important thing that I want him to understand is that having a cat is 364 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,380 like having any kind of family member. There's a life here, and you've got to 365 00:20:24,380 --> 00:20:28,100 make it so that Elsa's life is a constructive one, not a destructive one. 366 00:20:44,670 --> 00:20:51,490 The last time I was here, I 367 00:20:51,490 --> 00:20:56,510 met up with scaredy cat Miki and his overprotective mom, Megan. Now, while 368 00:20:56,510 --> 00:21:01,570 has made some progress becoming that confident cat that we all need him to 369 00:21:01,570 --> 00:21:02,570 Oh, my God! 370 00:21:02,610 --> 00:21:03,610 Today... 371 00:21:04,140 --> 00:21:07,580 I've got to see even more progress, especially with those tough challenge 372 00:21:07,580 --> 00:21:08,580 that I laid out. 373 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,720 We'll see. 374 00:21:10,500 --> 00:21:15,080 Hi. Hey. Good morning. How are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm okay. I'm okay. 375 00:21:15,220 --> 00:21:19,300 I'm really excited to see Jackson just because Mickey's behavior I can see has 376 00:21:19,300 --> 00:21:20,300 completely changed. 377 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,840 And I feel like I'm not doing things right. So let's sit down. 378 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,800 Where is Mickey right now? He's in his sunroom. 379 00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:29,020 Are you freaking out right now? 380 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,640 Oh, he's totally freaking out. Okay, let's go, let's go. I'm disappointed 381 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,720 because I really thought that this homework was going to bear fruit and it 382 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,720 struck out. 383 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,340 Hello, my friend. 384 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,400 Okay, now we're all going to sit. 385 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,700 You can tell he's just like, he's upset. 386 00:21:49,940 --> 00:21:53,020 He has been starving himself every other day. He doesn't eat. 387 00:21:56,060 --> 00:21:58,040 I'd say maybe two pounds lost. 388 00:21:58,380 --> 00:22:00,620 What? Two pounds? I'd say. 389 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:01,880 You have to understand. 390 00:22:02,490 --> 00:22:03,490 How bad that is. 391 00:22:03,550 --> 00:22:07,470 That's almost a quarter of his body weight. Your cat shuts down to that 392 00:22:07,590 --> 00:22:09,510 That is bad news. What went wrong? 393 00:22:09,730 --> 00:22:12,050 I feed them usually around 7, 7 .30 at night. 394 00:22:12,330 --> 00:22:13,330 They only eat once a day? 395 00:22:13,650 --> 00:22:15,130 Yeah, they get a really big helping. 396 00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:18,650 If I feed them twice a day, they won't do the morning. 397 00:22:18,930 --> 00:22:22,650 If Miki is only given one chance a day to eat and he doesn't take it, then 398 00:22:22,650 --> 00:22:23,730 that's a huge problem. 399 00:22:24,130 --> 00:22:25,130 We're in trouble. 400 00:22:25,390 --> 00:22:28,190 Do you feel that you can get him out of there? 401 00:22:28,410 --> 00:22:29,530 I could pick him up easily. 402 00:22:29,950 --> 00:22:30,970 Okay, pick him up. 403 00:22:31,420 --> 00:22:34,940 To see Mickey act the way he does around Jackson like he's afraid of him is 404 00:22:34,940 --> 00:22:38,600 definitely heartbreaking for me because I raised him myself. He's my child. 405 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,240 Hello, little buddy. I know. There's someone there. Don't worry, though. I 406 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,700 you. I won't let him get you. 407 00:22:45,260 --> 00:22:47,760 He's still really tense. 408 00:22:48,140 --> 00:22:49,640 I got you, babe. I know what you want. 409 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,280 I see you. 410 00:22:53,340 --> 00:22:58,380 You can't get any more sort of mothering, nurturing than that, but... 411 00:22:59,020 --> 00:23:03,640 He's not a child. And once you start carrying that child around when he's not 412 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,420 child, it's going to have negative repercussions. And those negative 413 00:23:07,420 --> 00:23:11,300 repercussions are all over this house right now. This cat is totally shut 414 00:23:11,460 --> 00:23:13,480 And Megan is completely enabling him. 415 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:14,780 See, no one's going to eat you. 416 00:23:15,420 --> 00:23:16,820 We're back to square one here. 417 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,120 See, no one's going to eat you. 418 00:23:29,710 --> 00:23:34,310 I gave Megan homework that would encourage Miki to be more confident, and 419 00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:36,630 I'm seeing is that she's encouraging him to hide. 420 00:23:36,850 --> 00:23:38,170 Um, here's what I want to do. 421 00:23:38,490 --> 00:23:42,050 Put him in your room so he can calm down in familiar territory, and then meet me 422 00:23:42,050 --> 00:23:42,869 in the living room. 423 00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:44,190 We're going to do this if he kills us. 424 00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:45,390 All right, let's get out of here. 425 00:23:45,450 --> 00:23:48,770 The situation here is worse than I thought. I mean, here we have a woman 426 00:23:48,770 --> 00:23:53,210 works with animals for a living, and yet her coddling of Miki is fostering a 427 00:23:53,210 --> 00:23:57,250 codependence in him that's very troubling to me, and it's at the root of 428 00:23:57,250 --> 00:23:58,149 our problems. 429 00:23:58,149 --> 00:24:00,450 All right, let's see what we got here. 430 00:24:02,610 --> 00:24:03,610 Wow, 431 00:24:04,930 --> 00:24:05,930 bears are right there. 432 00:24:06,290 --> 00:24:10,470 I'm seeing lots of mistakes. First of all, I'm seeing the cats way too close 433 00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:14,650 the feeding line, that gate. There's no way I would eat there if I didn't trust 434 00:24:14,650 --> 00:24:16,110 the cats on the other side of that gate. 435 00:24:16,590 --> 00:24:20,090 I'm also seeing play behavior that really concerns me. 436 00:24:20,350 --> 00:24:21,350 Come on, Meekie. 437 00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:25,730 Meekie, when he does play, barely leaves his feet. 438 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,840 That shows me that he's playing with no confidence. He wants to, but he doesn't 439 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,120 trust himself to do it or he doesn't trust his environment. 440 00:24:33,340 --> 00:24:36,100 And the same distrust is what leads to violence. 441 00:24:45,230 --> 00:24:48,790 He goes from zero to 60 in the fight -or -flight department, and he always does 442 00:24:48,790 --> 00:24:49,910 it from a hiding position. 443 00:24:50,170 --> 00:24:53,990 And when he takes that posture, he actually believes he's being threatened. 444 00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:58,750 that's why it's so vital that we put an end to this coddling and hiding cycle, 445 00:24:58,790 --> 00:24:59,790 and we do it right now. 446 00:25:00,090 --> 00:25:04,390 So we've got cameras set up in there so there's no humans in that room except 447 00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:05,950 for me and Megan. 448 00:25:06,450 --> 00:25:07,450 Oh, please. 449 00:25:07,730 --> 00:25:09,850 Yeah. Oh, please. 450 00:25:10,910 --> 00:25:11,910 He's not showing. 451 00:25:12,170 --> 00:25:13,170 That's not showing. 452 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,240 And, of course, I walk in there and I see what I don't want to see, which is 453 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,320 Miki still hiding. 454 00:25:18,940 --> 00:25:19,940 Where are you, Bubba? 455 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,020 You see? Look, look, look. This is so important. Miki finds comfort hiding 456 00:25:27,020 --> 00:25:30,260 in Megan's room, away from the world. Of course, that's not the behavior we 457 00:25:30,260 --> 00:25:33,620 want. We don't want comfort. We want confidence out in the world amongst 458 00:25:33,620 --> 00:25:38,800 everybody and up in the world as well. That is what makes a confident mojo 459 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,579 -filled cat. 460 00:25:39,580 --> 00:25:44,880 He's too insecure to occupy and to own that part of the world, right? 461 00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:49,840 How do I get him to be confident? That's what I want to do. Megan, you've got to 462 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,140 stop letting him hide. 463 00:25:51,420 --> 00:25:53,480 You're encouraging him to be small and insignificant. 464 00:25:53,780 --> 00:25:57,040 And you've got to know what that body language looks like in order for 465 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,060 professional Megan to come out and say, sorry, I just can't allow that. Earlier 466 00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:05,500 today when Miki shut down, Megan actually made it worse by letting him 467 00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:06,500 inside her shirt. 468 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,640 No one's going to eat you. 469 00:26:09,180 --> 00:26:13,040 This is what you created, and this is where he's going to stay unless you 470 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,040 challenge him. 471 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,960 That's a good boy. I know, I know, I know, but I want you to hang out. 472 00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:20,660 I do. I want you to hang. 473 00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:22,360 Whoop. Oh. 474 00:26:22,780 --> 00:26:23,780 A little feisty. 475 00:26:23,940 --> 00:26:25,820 Yeah, well, that was the move. 476 00:26:26,180 --> 00:26:28,060 Do it one more time. Go ahead. Just put him down. 477 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,720 Hi. 478 00:26:30,060 --> 00:26:31,060 Look at that. 479 00:26:32,620 --> 00:26:33,920 Hey. Good boy. 480 00:26:35,060 --> 00:26:36,380 What a good boy. 481 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,680 Well, this is different. 482 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,220 This is such a good thing. 483 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,220 He's kind of looking for that, like he wants to be nudged, like to get out 484 00:26:45,220 --> 00:26:49,220 a little bit. Exactly. The only way that any of us become our best selves is to 485 00:26:49,220 --> 00:26:51,660 overcome challenges. It's the only way we do that. 486 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,380 I never really thought of it as a problem for Miki to be hiding. 487 00:26:55,820 --> 00:26:58,500 I always thought that that was where he was kind of safe. 488 00:26:59,260 --> 00:27:02,080 But now I know I'm wrong, so we need to change that. 489 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,280 That was fantastic. 490 00:27:03,420 --> 00:27:05,940 Let's go back out, join your folks, and let me give you guys some homework. 491 00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:08,280 Leaving Megan's room, I'm invigorated. 492 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,120 This cat does not have to live the rest of his life in mortal fear 24 -7. 493 00:27:13,340 --> 00:27:16,440 We're going to set that challenge line, and we're going to move forward like we 494 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,540 mean it this time around. 495 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,780 First of all, it is very important, three meals a day. 496 00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:26,040 It's about how far back do you have to go to the point where they walk up, eat, 497 00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:27,120 and walk away. 498 00:27:27,180 --> 00:27:31,240 The problem for us is confidence is cat mojo. I want you to go through the 499 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:37,720 entire house and block off the unders, right? Your goal is here, here, 500 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,600 here, not there, right? Because that will cause him to shut down. More 501 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,680 importantly, Megan, you have to cut the cord a little bit. 502 00:27:45,940 --> 00:27:47,500 You will be a source of challenge. 503 00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:49,380 All comfort comes from you guys. 504 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,200 So I can't give treats? 505 00:27:51,690 --> 00:27:54,190 I can't. Look at the way this is playing out right now. 506 00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:55,470 Look at this. 507 00:27:55,490 --> 00:27:57,950 No, I get the treats. She gets the loving. You get nothing. 508 00:27:58,190 --> 00:27:59,790 You get nothing. You get to be professional, Megan. 509 00:28:00,490 --> 00:28:05,210 When Jackson tells me, you need to bring your professional work self home, it's 510 00:28:05,210 --> 00:28:09,670 the worst possible thing for me to hear because I love holding Mickey and I love 511 00:28:09,670 --> 00:28:14,570 coddling him so much. And I'm going to have a hard time sticking to it, but I'm 512 00:28:14,570 --> 00:28:15,529 going to have to. 513 00:28:15,530 --> 00:28:18,390 Let's get to it. All right? Take care. Thank you so much. 514 00:28:18,730 --> 00:28:23,720 Yes. Megan adheres to the homework. I'm telling you, I'm going to come back to a 515 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,860 different cat. If she doesn't, I'll bet something. 516 00:28:35,140 --> 00:28:39,160 I love that new toy, Jack. It's like a kid in a candy shop. 517 00:28:43,959 --> 00:28:47,840 Last time I was here, I met Chris, who was taking a real hands -off approach to 518 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,840 his cat, Elsa, mainly because his only experience with cats was growing up with 519 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:52,840 a feral cat colony. 520 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,640 Hopefully, my homework technique called boil and simmer, or playing in 521 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,760 structured intervals, really helped get that crazy energy off of Elsa, and at 522 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,440 the same time, taught Chris a thing or two about his cat's personality. 523 00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:10,160 Me and Elsa, we had a little huddle. We had to talk for a minute. I gave her 524 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,700 instructions. I gave her new rules to run by in the house. 525 00:29:13,290 --> 00:29:17,290 Past cattle 101 with flying colors. I know when Jackson comes back, he's going 526 00:29:17,290 --> 00:29:18,290 to be very happy. 527 00:29:19,810 --> 00:29:22,870 What is up, man? Jackson Gelson, what's going on, man? How you been, man? I'm 528 00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:26,730 feeling good. Look at that. You didn't have to go to the old school. Look at 529 00:29:26,730 --> 00:29:27,750 that. Jackson's side burns. 530 00:29:28,090 --> 00:29:33,290 I am not easily flattered, man, but that's pretty damn, what the hell did 531 00:29:33,290 --> 00:29:37,470 to yourself? That's the claws right there. I have to represent for the cat 532 00:29:37,470 --> 00:29:38,470 himself. 533 00:29:39,429 --> 00:29:43,170 I got the magical Jackson burns going, so Elsa really respects him. 534 00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:47,410 Last time I left you, man, there was a lot of work to be done. 535 00:29:49,070 --> 00:29:51,290 I see evidence of cat life. 536 00:29:51,870 --> 00:29:56,190 We got beds, we got tunnels, we got toys, we got all kinds of things. 537 00:29:56,410 --> 00:29:59,750 There's only one thing that's missing, and that is your cat, Abracadabra. 538 00:30:00,090 --> 00:30:01,090 There she is. 539 00:30:03,470 --> 00:30:04,830 Hello, my love. 540 00:30:05,770 --> 00:30:07,790 Long time no see, my baby. 541 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,880 Hit a little purr. 542 00:30:10,180 --> 00:30:15,580 One of the biggest problems that I identified the last time I was here was 543 00:30:15,580 --> 00:30:17,660 litter box or your turkey pan. 544 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:18,920 Is that like a turkey tin? 545 00:30:19,380 --> 00:30:20,480 That's never going to work. 546 00:30:21,780 --> 00:30:22,780 Oh, 547 00:30:22,980 --> 00:30:23,980 and it's the litter box. 548 00:30:24,260 --> 00:30:28,160 As soon as you left, I had to throw the turkey pan away and I brought the Elsa 549 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,160 condo in. 550 00:30:29,180 --> 00:30:31,100 Yeah, and it worked. She loves it. 551 00:30:31,340 --> 00:30:34,880 So the litter box is working because it's a litter box. 552 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,820 It's not a turkey pan. Here we have her little PlayStation here. We have a 553 00:30:39,820 --> 00:30:44,780 fatality. The cool thing is, though, that when we have evidence like this, 554 00:30:44,780 --> 00:30:49,180 says to us, okay, this is what she likes. When I first met Chris, the guy 555 00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:54,340 obviously loved his cat. But past that point, I mean, clueless with a capital 556 00:30:55,020 --> 00:31:01,300 Now he's armed with knowledge about what Elsa needs through her eyes. With this 557 00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:03,360 empathetic view, he approaches his cat. 558 00:31:03,690 --> 00:31:06,750 As a parent approaches a child, and that's the key to success. 559 00:31:07,050 --> 00:31:09,290 I got some of your homework on video here. 560 00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:15,170 Now she's playing fetch with you, man. I love that. One of the best things about 561 00:31:15,170 --> 00:31:19,110 watching video homework is watching Elsa play fetch with Chris. 562 00:31:19,310 --> 00:31:22,990 And Elsa's just doing it, like grabbing that stick, bringing it right to Chris, 563 00:31:23,090 --> 00:31:26,910 demonstrating to Chris that I like doing this. This makes me happy. 564 00:31:27,170 --> 00:31:31,470 Elsa's similar in time. I gave her a good run, and now she's just hanging out 565 00:31:31,470 --> 00:31:32,470 the laundry. 566 00:31:32,959 --> 00:31:38,600 Very. I couldn't ask for any more than that, man. That is perfect homework, 567 00:31:38,780 --> 00:31:43,480 I can honestly say, man, your technique, the boiling simmer technique, it really 568 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:48,140 came into effect. When you left that time, I boiled her up and I simmered her 569 00:31:48,140 --> 00:31:51,240 down. Between the time she's worked up to the time that you got her down to the 570 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,420 final simmer, how long do you think it is? 571 00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:55,200 I say about two hours. 572 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,140 For what? We have a good time. I kind of like, let me have a second, Disneyland. 573 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,680 We try to ride. 574 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,320 Every ride, I bust a toy out right here, and she have a good time with the mice. 575 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,560 Two hours, man. Chris is now playing with Elsa for up to two straight hours. 576 00:32:10,780 --> 00:32:14,880 He's giving her more exercise than most cats I know, and she reflects that in 577 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,660 her relationship with him. That is something I like to see. 578 00:32:18,030 --> 00:32:20,750 I feel proud, like a proud father watching his child. 579 00:32:21,010 --> 00:32:25,650 Yeah, you represent for all cat guys out there, man, because real men like cats, 580 00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:31,650 and that's an important thing, and your relationship with her is very nice, man. 581 00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:35,150 I mean, Elsa's made a lot of progress in just a couple weeks, and... 582 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,960 If you hit that sweet spot and you give the cat exactly what she was asking for, 583 00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:41,200 you're going to get results. 584 00:32:41,420 --> 00:32:43,180 And that's the kind of thing I want everyone to know. 585 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,000 If you're just watching your cat, if you're observing what it is that she's 586 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,900 content with, i .e., there's sponges all over the house, and you go, wait a 587 00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:54,540 minute, she needs a toy, you fix it just like that. 588 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,420 Chris, it's been absolutely real. Thanks. 589 00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:02,640 Good time, man. Good time. Keep that style, man. I like it. Keep the claw 590 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,000 on you, man. Thank you. 591 00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:07,810 I'm a different person now, even with the cat world. And I think that I can 592 00:33:07,810 --> 00:33:08,870 it to a whole other level. 593 00:33:09,130 --> 00:33:12,070 So Jackson, if you need a sidekick, give me a call. 594 00:33:18,490 --> 00:33:22,330 In my years of working with cats, I've seen them contribute to our well -being 595 00:33:22,330 --> 00:33:25,430 in multiple, unexpected, inspirational ways. 596 00:33:25,650 --> 00:33:26,650 And now you can too. 597 00:33:26,750 --> 00:33:30,150 It's my pleasure to share some of their stories with you. Welcome to A Little 598 00:33:30,150 --> 00:33:31,710 Slice of My Cat from Heaven. 599 00:33:32,650 --> 00:33:36,430 I'm Grace. And I'm Mark. We live in Studio City and we rescue cats. 600 00:33:36,770 --> 00:33:38,330 So all my life I've had dogs. 601 00:33:38,530 --> 00:33:45,030 I had no idea the amazing qualities of cats until I read this book that changed 602 00:33:45,030 --> 00:33:48,770 my life. It's called Homer's Odyssey, Odyssey of the Blind Cat. 603 00:33:48,970 --> 00:33:51,570 And the rest is crazy cat lady history. 604 00:33:52,670 --> 00:33:57,290 Man, am I psyched. Not only are these guys amazing adopters, amazing foster 605 00:33:57,290 --> 00:34:00,630 parents, but they concentrate on special needs cats specifically. 606 00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:02,500 Blind cats. 607 00:34:03,620 --> 00:34:05,300 Hey! How are you, man? 608 00:34:05,980 --> 00:34:09,020 I'm seeing a few cats. How many do you have in the house right now? 609 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,020 We foster, so we have cats going in and out. 610 00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:16,460 So on top of the five that we have ourselves, we have five that we're 611 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,400 He might fetch for you. 612 00:34:19,460 --> 00:34:21,239 Oh my God, he totally expected that. 613 00:34:21,460 --> 00:34:24,679 Now at first you're saying, oh my God, that's amazing. It's a blind cat playing 614 00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:28,820 fetch. Watch out for the guitar case. But then, my guitar case is in the way. 615 00:34:29,310 --> 00:34:32,909 He's running back with his little mouse in his mouth and just goes whoop. He's 616 00:34:32,909 --> 00:34:37,030 got your case there, so he just goes around the case. That's insane, man. 617 00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:42,389 cat especially loses their eyesight, the rest of those senses go into overdrive, 618 00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:46,949 down to their whiskers. Everything is just looking for information. And the 619 00:34:46,949 --> 00:34:49,210 Fitz navigated was absolutely amazing. 620 00:34:50,409 --> 00:34:52,489 I love the way he's exploring right now. 621 00:34:53,250 --> 00:34:57,470 What was the impetus? All of a sudden you're like... We're going to do Blind 622 00:34:57,470 --> 00:34:58,630 Cat. What happened? 623 00:34:58,850 --> 00:35:01,870 I read this book called Homer's Odyssey, The Odyssey of a Blind Cat. 624 00:35:02,070 --> 00:35:03,550 It was just such a sweet book. 625 00:35:03,770 --> 00:35:04,328 What's it about? 626 00:35:04,330 --> 00:35:08,410 It's about a cat that is blind and was a kitten and nobody wanted him. And this 627 00:35:08,410 --> 00:35:13,310 woman, Gwen Cooper, adopted him. And it's really just about how capable he 628 00:35:13,630 --> 00:35:19,010 Grace is telling me what a huge inspiration Gwen Cooper's book is. I am 629 00:35:19,010 --> 00:35:23,290 biting my hand because I have a huge surprise for her. I don't want to give 630 00:35:23,290 --> 00:35:24,390 away. I got to play dumb. 631 00:35:27,020 --> 00:35:31,120 But as far as the blind kids are concerned, it doesn't matter. Is that 632 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,220 doorbell? Yeah. Go ahead. We can bring it. 633 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,920 Gwen Cooper! 634 00:35:39,340 --> 00:35:40,480 Oh, my God! 635 00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:42,360 Oh, my God! 636 00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:49,540 Gwen Cooper changed the course of my life, 637 00:35:49,620 --> 00:35:52,300 and not just my life, but Mark's life. 638 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,960 And so many cats that we have saved. She is amazing. 639 00:35:57,340 --> 00:36:01,880 Really, since we read your book, we've probably fostered about and found homes 640 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,500 for about 25 cats. Wow. 641 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,000 Wow. 642 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,800 That's a lot of cats. 643 00:36:07,420 --> 00:36:12,860 You know, the story spoke to you, and that means a lot to me. It really did. 644 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:18,120 We have to look beyond ourselves, you know, and to be able to be of service in 645 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,320 some way. And for me, I found my path, and that was through. 646 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:22,960 Rescuing cats. 647 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,920 You know, the path to getting Homer's story published was so difficult. And to 648 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:33,640 meet someone who was so influenced by it and in such a wonderful direction, it's 649 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,380 just an indescribable feeling to be here and to hear this. 650 00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:41,380 Well, we can't thank you enough. Meeting Gwen and Jackson has been probably one 651 00:36:41,380 --> 00:36:46,080 of the best experiences of my life. And for them to tell us that they're 652 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,620 impressed with what we do, it means so much to me. 653 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,880 I wanted to try something with you guys. Knowing I was coming over here, I just 654 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,980 sort of modified one of my toys. 655 00:36:56,900 --> 00:37:01,560 Basically, I just took something that had a little worm on the end of it and 656 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,320 just replaced it with a bell. Here. 657 00:37:03,980 --> 00:37:05,040 Gwen, I present you. 658 00:37:05,340 --> 00:37:09,780 Oh, my God. He's right on it anyway. Remember, blind cats play just like any 659 00:37:09,780 --> 00:37:11,820 other cat. They need that exercise. 660 00:37:12,220 --> 00:37:14,980 I love this. Oh, my God. I love this. There you go. 661 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,280 Sending this message to people who are even thinking about adopting a blind cat 662 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:25,260 that they do what any other cat does. Absolutely. There are cats dying in 663 00:37:25,260 --> 00:37:26,520 shelters every day. 664 00:37:27,070 --> 00:37:31,490 just because they're blind or deaf or have three legs or anything like that. 665 00:37:31,690 --> 00:37:36,290 Mark and Grace show you that just because they're physically different 666 00:37:36,290 --> 00:37:39,770 mean that they can't bring something to your life. And listen, if you don't 667 00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:43,450 believe me, don't adopt. Go ahead and foster. We just got to get them out of 668 00:37:43,450 --> 00:37:46,570 system, and that will convince you that these guys are special. 669 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,780 So I'm here for my final visit with Megan and her cat, Miki. And the last 670 00:37:57,780 --> 00:38:01,500 was here, Miki basically wasn't. No one's going to eat you. 671 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,480 And Megan was just enabling him. So today, I want to see a cat who doesn't 672 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:10,760 Who can be in a room with Bear and just be a cat, not a scaredy cat. 673 00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:14,920 And I need to see that Megan learn to give some tough love. Otherwise, she and 674 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:15,960 her cats are moving out. 675 00:38:17,580 --> 00:38:19,180 Hi. How are you? 676 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,520 Good. How are you? 677 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,020 Good. What's your hair? 678 00:38:22,490 --> 00:38:23,490 That's good. 679 00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:28,350 So first and foremost, what's going on? What's happening? 680 00:38:28,570 --> 00:38:34,190 Miki will spend most of his day up on the top of the cat tree. Oh, my God, 681 00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:39,350 that's amazing. And during feeding, now I know, we had some rough patches, and 682 00:38:39,350 --> 00:38:43,250 you're seeing success with that. Sure. A lot, yeah. 683 00:38:44,570 --> 00:38:48,050 We've marked it very graphically. There we are. 684 00:38:51,020 --> 00:38:55,140 Oh, wow. You really are... It's right up until last night. Very close. 685 00:38:55,700 --> 00:39:00,600 I love when my clients take me at my word. When you put a piece of tape down, 686 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,260 may look like a matter of inches, but if you add that up over a couple of weeks, 687 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,560 it's an illustration how this system works, that getting cats far apart, 688 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,520 them up day after day works. The proof that it works is that Mickey's eating 689 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,520 again. 690 00:39:13,540 --> 00:39:17,460 Wow. Good news, man. Everything sounds killer right now. 691 00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:19,780 And by the way, you've come... 692 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,160 tremendous way with this whole thing, from the person who would carry him 693 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,960 under her shirt, right? 694 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,640 I mean, you've really been a strong parental figure to him. 695 00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:35,800 I am so proud of Megan for learning not to coddle Miki. She challenged herself 696 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,840 and her cat, and that's what everybody needed. 697 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:43,220 I just want to see Bear and Miki being able to occupy the same space at the 698 00:39:43,220 --> 00:39:45,540 time without World War III breaking out. 699 00:39:46,860 --> 00:39:52,540 I got to see that Miki can be confident sitting there owning the space while 700 00:39:52,540 --> 00:39:54,140 Bear is being Bear. 701 00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:59,140 Miki's got to be able to watch that and know that it's not a threat. 702 00:39:59,780 --> 00:40:00,780 Coming. 703 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,160 And here comes Bear. Here. 704 00:40:06,660 --> 00:40:07,660 What's that? 705 00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:08,860 All right, here we go. 706 00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:12,880 There we go. Good boy. 707 00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:16,240 Good boy. So I got Bear playing. No problem. 708 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,460 And then, their eyes meet. 709 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,560 I have no idea what's coming next. 710 00:40:23,180 --> 00:40:27,040 I was very nervous. I hope nobody bleeds here. 711 00:40:35,220 --> 00:40:36,220 Good boy. 712 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,360 Good boy. 713 00:40:37,580 --> 00:40:42,340 What I need to see is Bear and Mickey in the same room at the same time, not 714 00:40:42,340 --> 00:40:43,340 attacking each other. 715 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,760 Now, watch. He's looking. 716 00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:47,760 Their eyes meet. 717 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,780 I have no idea what's coming next. 718 00:40:53,020 --> 00:40:54,860 Look at that, man. 719 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:57,880 And then they look away. 720 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,300 It's been about Miki finding his comfortable place up in the world. Now 721 00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:06,800 can be comfortable in the same place at the same time as Bear, that's a 722 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,320 challenge met and a challenge won. Miki is perfect. 723 00:41:11,620 --> 00:41:14,020 I call this game over, man. 724 00:41:15,260 --> 00:41:21,120 Very nice. From this moment on, Miki doesn't have to cower in fear anymore. 725 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,680 He knows that when he's up, he's surveying his kingdom, and all is good. 726 00:41:25,980 --> 00:41:26,980 Game changer. 727 00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:33,160 I'm very proud of him. And you, as well. I gotta say. No, I really am. 728 00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:36,040 You've done amazing work. 729 00:41:36,380 --> 00:41:42,040 Going into the main option for me and my cat, Miki, was move out. 730 00:41:42,570 --> 00:41:44,930 And now that we've had this progress, I can say. 731 00:41:45,630 --> 00:41:52,390 You stepped up, man. Yes, my boy. I am so very impressed with you. Thank you 732 00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:54,030 coming and saving us. 733 00:41:54,250 --> 00:41:56,250 You fixed him. Bye, 734 00:41:57,370 --> 00:41:58,370 guys. Bye -bye. 735 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,200 The hell isn't over yet. Go to the My Cat from Hell Facebook page for 736 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,400 Microsoft's gifts and much more. 62363

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